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Reminder that SteIIaris has its own general and discussion of the game doesn't go here. Thank you.

We don't have an official steam or discord group. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steam or discord groups, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 26th:
1409 – Western Schism: The Roman Catholic Church is led into a double schism as Petros Philargos is crowned Pope Alexander V after the Council of Pisa, joining Pope Gregory XII in Rome and Pope Benedict XII in Avignon.
1522 – Ottomans begin the second Siege of Rhodes.
1541 – Francisco Pizarro is assassinated in Lima by the son of his former companion and later antagonist, Diego de Almagro the younger. Almagro is later caught and executed.
1843 – Treaty of Nanking comes into effect, Hong Kong Island is ceded to the British "in perpetuity".


>News
HOI4 DD17/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hoi4-dev-diary-june-17th-patch-1-1-red-ball-express.949237/

CK2 DD 11 - The End of Days
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-developer-diary-11-the-end-of-days.950847

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI4] - More Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#F!v5wXURpJ!TvoBinBVQWJbaYJsluyoFA

>>[CK2 - 2.5.2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.5.1 - 20/06/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>146647696
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Nicky
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>>146695061


>protestant """"church""""
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>>146695291
Reminder that this is 4chan and that if you don't like shitposting you probably shouldn't be here.

Faggot.
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>>146695481
I want childfuckers and orthomemes to leave
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>>146695504
t. /b/tard
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>>146695504
>s-stop hating my ebin memes and circlejerks!!
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>146695626
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CK2fags what are your favorite cunts? I just started playing this (just started playing grand strategy period, for that matter) and I don't really know shit. Norway seems cool so far.
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>>146695626
>thinking there's a difference between reddit and /b/
x--------------D
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>>146695661
>hating on memers
You have to go back.
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>>146695620
Statistically public school officials are more likely to molest children than men of the church are
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>>146695620
>literally every country that had the misfortune of being infected with protestantism is overwhelmingly atheist now

pottery
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Okay, I'm like halfway through the Vicky 2 tutorial. I haven't really *played* one of these games before, but before I make myself finish this, and watch six hours of videos on how to play the game that the tutorial doesn't tell me:

Is this shit actually fun? Do you enjoy this? Or is it just a trap where you spend so long learning the game that you pretend to like it to validate that investment?
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>>146695291
talex
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>>146696045
Kinda depressing that baby rapers are common enough that these things can be statistically measured like that desu senpai.
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Daily reminder that
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>>146696154
reminder to all vicky autists this is what normal people think of Liquoria 2
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>>146696154
>Is this shit actually fun?

"no"

>>146696189
There's literally nothing wrong with child fucking, though.
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I've found a mod that attempts to fix paradoxs peace conference system for HOI4
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707765792
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>>146696348
>There's literally nothing wrong with child fucking, though.
t. average catholic/ muslim
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When will paradox add playable theocracies?
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>>146696154
>Is this shit actually fun?
For a while until you realise you basically do the same shit every game with minor variation.

>Do you enjoy this?
No

Also, you shouldn't bother with Paradox tutorials. They're widely known to be crap.
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>>146696293
Is there one of these that's actually fun if not Vicky 2? I like the 1800s and shit and I want to fix all the things I hate about the world today, but if one of the EU games is actually fun....
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>>146696154
If you get pleasure in watching dutch pops migrating to South Africa and outbreeding the natives, or watching the culture map of the US becoming more and more yankee each year, or the culture map of Russia showing Siberia being assimilated then go ahead. If you don't the game is not for you
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>>146696189
There's like 7 billion people in the world, and only a few small populations are unrecorded. 0.1% of 7 billion is like 7 million people, which is by no means common but still a lot.

What I'm trying to say is that it's not that common, and because it's uncommon is actually how people are able to pick out the cases and get statistical measurements.
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>>146696469
>UK
>not the european capital of nonces

just fuck off already, nigel
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Reposting this question from the previous thread:

Made a mini-mod to CK2plus. Added extra Nestorian holy sites in India because St. Thomas. Tried playing some count tier test games. One of two things usually happened:

1) Vassal lord would sieze my titles, even with good relations
2) I would be bored shitless on the Maldives for centuries

So now I'm considering starting as a duke or king, which I very rarely do in CK2, and using them for my Nestorian fun run in India. But which one?
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>>146696293
>>146696348
>>146696510
sup reddit
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>>146696510
Well my friends enjoy Civ even though that's just playing the same shit every game with no variation
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>>146696634
>church of england
>not catholic
They're just in denial
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>>146696750
Fact: Liquoria 2 is the most posted game on /r/paradoxplaza
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>>146696634
Why do bongs call child molesters nonces? What's the origin of that term? Anyone know?
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>>146696817
Fact: This doesn't mean ledditors can appreciate the game critically
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>>146696154
Normal people:
>wtf are these charts and colors and shit? why the fuck do you play this autistic game?

Liquoria 2 player:
>holy shit look at those fuggin POPs man hella fuckin epic OMG
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>>146696510
>Also, you shouldn't bother with Paradox tutorials. They're widely known to be crap.
Fucking this. It sucks, too, because these games could really use a decent tutorial. They're not exactly the easiest shit to figure out on your own. I have absolutely zero idea what I'm looking at on EU4's trade map even though the tutorial "explained" it.
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>>146696750
Hey 4chan.
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>>146696750
fuck off your prod, when the world inevitably grows completely apathetic to religion there will be nothing left of your pathetic little heresy, at least we'll have some imposing buildings if nothing else.
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>>146696750
>implying I enjoy any paradox game

I just keep playing them because I'm empty inside.
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>>146696473
buy eu4
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>>146697246
>weallknowthatfeel.jpg
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>>146697037
>They're not exactly the easiest shit to figure out on your own
> I have absolutely zero idea what I'm looking at on EU4's trade map even though the tutorial "explained" it.

Are you clinically retarded?
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>>146697612
No.
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What documentaries go good with GS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woq2oj7mwkc
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>>146696817
Probably because most of the other games have their own subreddit and /r/victoria2 is dead you mong. Game has like 500 players on steam, that shit is dead among buyfags
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>>146698310
500 redditors
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>>146698189
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAkKmcFAOjk
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>>146698310
>He plays vicky2 through steam
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>>146698474
What's wrong with that? Are you just laughing at him because he paid for it, or something else?
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>>146696817
>calling it Liquoria
>not building steel factories
>implying ledditors play HPM and not PDM
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>>146697037
>use your merchants to steer trade to your home node
>build a few lightships or make sure that you are the only one in your trade nodes

You have now mastered eu4's trade system
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>>146697034
>implying that i ever look at the charts
I just encourage craftsmen and capitalists
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>>146698843
Once upon a time games could be procured through means other than steam.
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>>146699349
This. It's not like it's a very hard game
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>>146698962
>implying anyone plays PDM
PDM is a dead mod, and posting anything other than alexmod on leddit will get you massive downboats
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>>146696606
I might enjoy this? I think I want to start a German Empire, even if it's what everyone does, and just really fuck up England's shit because those brown-haired rain-farting shits have it coming. How hard would it be to ally with the US and have them fuck the shit out of Canada?
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>>146699082
I still don't know what I'm looking at.
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>>146698843
I'm implying his "only 500 on steam so its dead" point is worthless because vicky 2 doesn't necessarily have to be purchased on steam

You can even buy the steam version and bypass steam entirely through using the launcher separately.
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>>146699798
In my current game of CK2 I'm Norway and I'm fucking up England's shit pretty nicely. William the Conqueror is fucking them from the south so they're basically getting a dick in the ass and another in the mouth. Sounds like something you'd dig if you don't like the bongs.
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>>146699585
which one is alexmod? HPM?
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Daily reminder apartheid worked
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>>146700212
Why did Zimbabwe failed so horribly while Botswanna ended up so alright?
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>>146700071
I fucking hate bongs, but I also don't want to crusade or deal with catholics or with allah, so CK2 maybe not for me. I would way rather use console commands to bankrupt the UK in victoria 2 and just let that play out as someone totally unimportant, probably
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>>146700391
Botswana is a peaceful place but it's still full of AIDS.
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>>146700391
Mineral wealth/Mining
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>>146700510
Actual Crusading is optional depending on where you are. There's no kebab to remove anywhere near Norway, for example. The name of CK2 is a little bit misleading, come to think of it. Catholicism is definitely the dominant religion outside of kebab land though.
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>>146700558
All of Africa has problems with AIDS though
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>>146700391
Because Mugabe is in charge?
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>>146700391
Diamonds, homogenous country, extremely few whites to begin with, semi-competent half-democracy (ruling party has been the same since foundation). Didn't outright reject western ideals on independence, my guess since black repression was minimal in the area. Accepted Western aid for uses other than enriching their own wallet. Least corrupt country on the continent, though that's not saying much.

I'd imagine it boils down to homogeneity in both political ideals and a culture that's not totally irredeemable.
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>>146700807
Some countries are worse than others. I think Botswana is one of the worse ones.
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>That feel when your super king dies at mid 40's
>That feel when your current kings heir is also great
>That feel when your shit current king is already 70 and shows no signs of stopping
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>>146696154
>Is this shit actually fun? Do you enjoy this?
I do, for a while, never really finish the games though, shit is just too bloody long.

I play until I get bored and then I start over.
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Why is BlackICE a meme?
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Why the fuck were those 2 arguing anyways, if you can play as a merchant republic it invalidates the whole "play as a dynasty" thing
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>not giving the AI a slight advantage
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>>146702196
When you play as a merchant republic you play as the jewish dynasty.
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>>146702443
I bet /pol/ loves that you can expel the jewry from your cunt in CK2.
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>>146702196
How does playing as merchant republic invalidate playing as a dynasty.
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>>146696045
There's also no evidence that the public school system covers up instances of child abuse, unlike the catholic church.

Not to say that any other branch is better. All abrahamic religions are equally shitty.
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>>146702917
>the catholic church doesn't cover up for pedos
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>>146703009
>>146702917
I misread that, never mind.
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>>146703009
>being unable to read
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>>146702917
Yeah, that's why you get instances where the fucking police covers up child abuse cases, but ya know, muh evil pedo priests.
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>>146702908
I'm not saying it invalidates it, I'm saying that it invalidates the argument that "theocracies are bad because they don't fit in a game about dynasties" because playing as a merchant republic is NOT playing as a dynasty.
There are tons of other arguments you could've made against theocracies and yet you chose the worst one.
Please don't start this shit again.
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>>146703310
I'm pretty sure most police are pedos themselves.
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>>146702908
This.
You fucking play as dynasty as a merchant republic.
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>>146703378
>playing as a merchant republic is NOT playing as a dynasty.
But IT IS.

You play as a dynasty competing against 5 others in a merchant republic
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>>146703310
>Police
Last year in USA police chose not to pursue a false rape victim (she confessed she lied after 5 years of the guy in jail) because "it might deter real rape victims to report the real rapists"
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>>146703403
Obviously, there's a reason they carry militarized dildos
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>>146703378
But you are still playing as a dynasty even as a merchant republic, what you even on about.
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>>146703697
That's so incredibly fucked up, man. Any bitch who falsely gets a dude sent to the booty house as a sex offender should be fucking hanged.
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>>146702917
>All abrahamic religions are equally shitty.

You can't be fucking serious.
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>>146703941
Indeed it is.
http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2015/05/17/manchester-police-admit-they-dont-prosecute-women-who-make-false-rape-allegations/
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>>146704098
>tfw I can't tell who's being ironic, falseflag or who's being serious anymore
At least I know that fart rape was legit
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>>146703565
>>146703862
Well if you're arguing that way this means that theocracies are also playing as a dynasty since you compete with other priest dynasties :^).
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>>146704098
I think I just gained a chromosome from reading that pic.

Incidentally, I love fatties.
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>>146704445
>priest dynasties
wew
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>>146703378
Do you even play the game?

When you play as a merchant republic, you play as one of the republic's noble families. When elections happen, it's entirely possible for another family to win. And then you have to plot to get your family back in power.
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>>146702196
>>146702443
>>146702908
>>146703378
>>146703415
>>146703378
>>146703565
>>146703862
>>146703565
>>146704445
don't start this fuckin autism war again pls
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>>146704445
Do you not understand basic concept of a dynasty and christian theocracy and why they aren't compatible.
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>>146704363
Generally if there is shitton of text you can presume a person is autistic-ally legit.
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>>146704624
No, these people are retarded.
They don't understand that.
Just last thread someone was arguing that every monarchy in europe was a theocracy because divine right meant they were theocracies.
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>>146704585
THIS DESU
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>>146704709
>>146704624
Well you could make it like some kind of elective seniority empire.
If your family loses next election it fucks off to couple convents.
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SLAV'D
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>>146704624
>>146704709
>>146704881
fuck off
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>>146704098
>>146704363
>>146703697
>anglocucks

hilarious))))))))


*punches wife*
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>>146704675
Nah, that fatty thing and this one sounds too perfectly made for bait.
It's the kind of shit I would write if I wanted to bait reactions, that isn't real.

I only believe this shit now when there's a name involved that I can check.
>checks the name in your pic
>it checks out
Jesus Christ.
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>>146704942
what is this )))))))) meme?
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>>146705059
t. reddit
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>ywn waggle your willy with Cobra
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>>146705146
t. cobra
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>>146695260
Is victoria 2 any good? I play EU4 mostly and played some ck2, which I found was kind of lame compared to eu4.

Is it hard to transition from eu4 to victoria 2?
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HoI4 is unplayably broken but it has whet my appetite for the series so which is better out of HoI3 and HoI2?
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>>146705420
talex
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>>146705609
I haven't played Vicky 2 yet but I have a friend who likes it. That friend is kind of an autist but we're all posting in a grand strategy thread on /vg/ so...yeah.
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>>146705664
Because it's actually fun and the gameplay is much better on the base level.
It's just unfinished and features are missing.
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If you have 100% trade power in a node is it better to steer it down stream to your capital node that doesnt have 100% control
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>>146705664
I would say they're just different. Better depends on what subjective qualities you prefer.

Either DH for hoi2 if you don't mind a fugly map with great events, or HPP for hoi3 if you want a proper military grand strategy.
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>>146705807
>I haven't played Vicky 2 yet but I have a friend who likes it. That friend is kind of an autist but we're all posting in a grand strategy thread on /vg/ so...yeah.
Ok, im not an autist or anything, I just live in a third world shithole with a broken economy, I can't get a job anywhere so I am stuck as a NEET, I just need games that are a huge fucking time waster to prevent me from going insane in the forseable future of standing around at home doing nothing at all.
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>>146705839
Depends how much control you do have, but it's almost always better to steer to your capital node
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>>146705839
i don't know what this webm is supposed to be but it triggers my autism
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>>146705609
Yeah, it's pretty good
Best gs out there
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>>146695973
Republic of Amalfi probably

But if you're new I recommend Duke of Aquitaine in the 1066 start, Sultan of Ottomans in the Late Middle Ages start, or as one of the tribal chiefs of Ireland in the Charlemange start.
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>>146706002
good thing you came to /gsg/ then
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>>146706052
I have about 90% in my capital
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>>146706002
Which third world shithole are you from? Just curious because I didn't think unemployed NEET's in the third world had internet access.
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>>146705609
Vicky 2 has much less focus on mindless blobbing and more on managing your country and its economy.
If conquering and colonisation are your favourite aspects of EU4 then you probably won't like V2. If you're more interested in managing economics and pops then you may enjoy it.

>>146705810
I can appreciate that they game has potential but as of now it just has too many bugs and the ai is too retarded to be playable unless you're going for world-conquest Liberia meme-game.

>>146706001
Thanks.
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>>146706374
It's not 2006 anymore. Most of the world has internet access.
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>>146706489
Yeah sure but it ain't free. It's a beautiful time to be alive if the quality of life of a basement dweller in third world shitholes has reached the same level as that of basement dwellers in the first world.
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>>146706374
He's probably from the balkans/eastern europe and is over-exaggerating his situation because that's what we do over here.
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>>146706448
>liq 2
>economics
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>>146706626
i'm always surprised how many balkan bros are on here.
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>>146706374
Brazil

Im lucky to have parents who can support me while im looking for a job, too bad there are no jobs in this shitty economical crisis.

>>146706448
>Vicky 2 has much less focus on mindless blobbing and more on managing your country and its economy.
>If conquering and colonisation are your favourite aspects of EU4 then you probably won't like V2. If you're more interested in managing economics and pops then you may enjoy it.
I actually hate blobbing and the ever lasting conquest and expansion thing in eu4, it gets repetitive after a while.

>>146706586
>Yeah sure but it ain't free. It's a beautiful time to be alive if the quality of life of a basement dweller in third world shitholes has reached the same level as that of basement dwellers in the first world.
There are no basements in Brazil. I have a house and live alone with my gf.

>>146706626
I wish I was mate, I really do, but I got born in huehueland and am stuck here with all these fucking monkeys.
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How to best prepare for the scramble for Africa in HPM? Are there certain nations that should be annexed or puppeted for a better foothold?
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>>146706835
>Brazil
you poor poor HUE
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>>146704942
>slavs
Im getting so banned for this
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>>146706586
Well, there's probably still a significant difference in the quality of the computer they're using, and the speed of their internet, and the services they have access to.

Besides, basement dwellers in 3rd world shitholes probably don't have middle class parents who will put up with their basement dwelling shit as much.
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>>146706932
what the fuck did i just read?
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>>146706932
wew
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>>146706919
Yeah, I know, I drew the shortest stick in the bundle, what you gonna do about it you know?

Just wish we didn't elect that stupid woman for president, we were on our way to develop into a first world nation, and then Dilma happened.

I used to believe in equality between man and woman before this, now I know they are incapable of politics.
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>>146706714
>spend most your history being subjugated
>your only rise to relevance is that time you genocided your neighbors
>surprised people like that would like grand strats where they can live out their power fantasies
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>>146706626
Do you think your economy will see better days any time soon? It sucks that it's so bad because it seems to me like a pretty nice part of the world, otherwise.
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Why is this allowed in vanilla CK2? What is the reasoning for allowing this to happen?

>>146706932
wew lad slavs must be living the dream
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>>146707217
I'm from Brazil too.
What GSGs do you play?
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>>146707226
at least my meme nation wasn't subjugated as much and has less kebab in it than the rest of old Yugoslavia
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>>146706869
The most important thing is to just spam ships for colonisation mana.
Other than that make sure you take one of the west African countries and build a naval base there and establish protectorate on Egypt/Ethiopia when possible.
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>>146706932
>When God gives bunny, the grassplot always follows!
what was meant by this
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r8
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>>146707464
>What GSGs do you play?
eu4 and ck2, trying to get on vic 2 now, might check HoI afterwards.
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>>146706932
russian trolling is just different than ours
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>>146706869
Have as many primitives in your influence for cheap annexation. Also block off inland from other GPs.
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How do you use carriers in HOI3?
You select the cags and strike from afar or you simply go and atack with your fleet?
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I hate theocracies
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>>146707529
i think is the russian version of " when life gives you lemons make lemon aid"
>>146707593
what's that blue between you and the USSR?
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>>146706002
t. grandi pro
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>>146707252
I'm quite pessimistic, but to be honest I don't even care, I'm a recluse and the current situation benefits me because I have an excuse for being a NEET.
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>>146707763
>lemon aid
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>>146707763

Poland's meme faciton, they changed colors because I tried to coup there but it failed. ;__;
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>>146706932
>I understood that he is my man
Based Russian women
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>>146706987
>there's probably still a significant difference in the quality of the computer they're using, and the speed of their internet, and the services they have access to.
Can confirm this, our internet speed is a joke, every public service is shit, and even though we DO have acess to high end pcs, the insanely high importation taxes on eletronic goods makes the price triple, making it impossible for the average person to have high end computers or replace them with the same frequency as a first world person does.

>>146707795
>t. grandi pro
I don't ge the joke, might explaining?
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>>146708046
>I don't ge the joke, might explaining?
It's not a joke, it's shitposting.
There's a steamgroup who's trying to destroy this thread, they hate modders cause they kinda stand in the way of this thread being purely shitposting;
So they are trying to kick a V2 modder by implying he's a brazilian named alex grandi.
Just ignore it.
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>>146708393
ola alex
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What's the easiest game to get into after playing Vicky 2? I kinda wanna try HoI3/4 but I hear it's easily the most complex paradox game out there
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>>146708618
hoi4 is a babby's game
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>>146708618
Only HoI3 is more complex until you figure out how to abuse ai.
DH/Keissereich is fun and different though.
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>>146708393
Don't listen to this guy, he's the resident autist and a mythomaniac
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>>146707912
Plenty of time on your hands to play grand strategy games amirite?
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>>146708393
I see, a bunch of autists being autists, nothing weird or unusual for 4chan I guess.

Anyway, victoria 2 looks pretty fucking confusing, I have literally no idea what is the difference between these different units or shit, just looking at this game makes me cringe!

Guess it will take some getting used to, is victoria 3 any good? I might buy it off steam if it is.
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>>146708393
>alex grandi hasn't posted anything on facebook since HPM moved to Italy
Hmm
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>>146708829
>is victoria 3 any good
Lad...
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>>146707763
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>>146707680
Send the fleet into battle like you normally would and if the CAGs are on CAG duty which is their default mission it will play out fine.
If you are playing a major power like Japan, Italy or the UK with multiple surface actiong roups and carrier fleets then you engage with the SAG, park the CTF in the adjacent sea province and give the CAGs the naval strike mission over the battle.
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>>146708757

Never liked DH that much tbqh, I like HoI 3 better for WW2, but it's goat with kaiserreich.
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>>146707795
>>146708527
>>146708797
t. steamgruppe pro
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>>146708818
>implying I do anything but shitpost on here and watch anime
>>
So does anyone feel like wrecking havoc in BLOC? I'm sure unlike /pol/ and /k/, we could make a decent alliance that wont sink to autistic geopolitics.

But most importantly, what should our alliance name be?
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>>146709020

t. r&i
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>>146709007
WW2 DH is better with mods - World in Flames 2 or All in One come to mind.
If you really really wanted ww2 War in the East or a proper wargame is for you.
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>>146709167
fuck off back to your steamgroup
>>
The most satisfying part of grand strategy games is being able to both map paint and choose social policies that fit my personal views.

E.g. I'd always pick bill of rights in EU3 and blob

Is this still doable in EU4? From what I've seen it's now harder to map paint, especially in Europe (which is understandable). Is this true?
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>>146709232
Do the Ugandan police have a cement mixer and what looks like refrigerator trucks?
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>>146695481

>Not wanting to confess your sins to a qt priest

Catholicism's biggest mistake tbhfam
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>>146709256
How the fuck is the steam group related?
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Just got back from a huge LARP in Sacramento. What does /gsg/ think?
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>>146709167
Willy Wagglers International
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>>146709232

Thx bb :3
Have a Nicky
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>>146709457
>anarchists thinking they could take skinheads
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>>146709457
kek
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>>146709457
The fuck is this?
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>>146709457
The fuck am i looking at
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>>146709721
this took me a minute

nice
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>>146709715
>>146709721
civil war LARP
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>>146709167
KuK
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>>146709715
>>146709721
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article86099332.html
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>>146709457
christ they look like a bunch of kindergartners playing at recess
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>>146708878
Why the fuck do you stalk a random brazillian on facebook.
Is this the epitome of shitposting
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>>146709457
>fascists rebels take out anarcho-liberal rebels
looks like the government wins again
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Since General Fixes is dead, what are the best mods for HOI 4? (Except for uninstall.exe)
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>>146709167
Partido Socialista
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How did I do?
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>>146709715
angsty children in adult bodies trying to make their shitty lives more interesting
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>>146710060
aren't these technically communist rebels since anarcho liberals are ancaps
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>>146709167
Yuropean Union
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>>146709457
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
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>>146710243
>>146710125
>>146709913
>>146709562
If you guys are serious about playing, you should read this guide.
http://www.blocgame.com/forums/index.php?topic=3530.0

I'd recommend starting in Asia, Middle East or Africa, Latin America is just shit.
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>>146710402
kek
>>
>>146710232
Yeah I guess they are either communist or militant socialists
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>>146710553
fuck off
>>
Okay fags so I'm playing CK2 in the Viking era as the high chief of the Finnfags. What should my casus belli be when I declare war on another Finnish chief? Should I use subjugation, or press de jure claim? I'm having a hard time telling what the difference is but I chose the King of Finland ambition which is what unlocked subjugation as an option.
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>>146710060
but Victoria taught me that rebels team up against the government no matter how drastically opposed their ideologies are
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>>146710553
>not wanting to be a Banana Republic
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>>146710553
go away nigger
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>>146710794
Dejure will cause you to take the county yourself if the owner has land elsewhere, subjugation will put them under you entirely. Don't use subjugation unless you have the "Become King" ambition.
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>>146710794
form the Finnish theocracy
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>>146710827
USA fuccboi mode doesn't work well since you have to be Laissez-faire/Free Market and fact that you can't do a lot of social programs fucks you over
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>>146710940
I did pick that ambition. Sorry, I'm really new to this, but I still don't really understand the ramifications of one vs. the other.

Also I just realized I have hardly any fucking levies as this character. What's the best way to get a bigger army? I don't have much gold either so I can't really use mercenaries yet.
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>>146711110
Off by one from quints. Not sure if I should keep playing CK2 or kill myself.
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>>146711253
>kill myself.
by a game from the steam sale instead
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>>146711253
kill yourself

Also, thanks for the broken game and company vacation before fixing, podjew
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>>146710687
>>146710851
t. samefag/shitpost pro
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>>146711407
treddit
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>>146711407
t. rob
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>>146711253
doing an hero is the honorable thing
>>
is there an IQ requirement for GS games? Im not very bright tbqh. I played the tutorial of EUIV a couple years ago and havent touched it since. It is just too complicated. Am I right in that I am too dumb for the genre?
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>>146711503
>focusing on shitposting instead of discussing games
>trying this hard to derail a thread
kys
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>>146711534
Probably.
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>>146711534
the only thing making any of the games difficult is lack of explanation and visual feedback

yes, dev incompetence is worshiped as complexity round these parts
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>tfw wiped out 100+ chink brigades
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>>146711534
>is there an IQ requirement for GS games?
No, but there is a GGQ. You can increase your GGQ by buying paradox's products, all of them.
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>>146711534
>IQ requirement
Nah, take a look around here, you'll notice quickly that the only requirement is having terminal autism.
>>
What should I be looking for in a potential concubine?
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>>146711897
titles
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>>146711897
strong, genius, quick, attractive
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>>146711743
i know the feeling
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>>146711897
bangability
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>>146711994
delete this
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>>146712034
nice encouragement mana
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>>146696368
Does anyone feel like uploading this to mega?
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>>146711110
If you use De jure claim wisely you can expand your own personal demesne, which is your powerbase that you administrate directly. Using subjugation will allow you to conquer land quicker, but it will always be directly ruled by someone else.

As for armies as a tribal character, improve your martial and raid for money to hire mercs/build certain buildings
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So after attempting a ton of coups I made it
Is there a way to play Romania with him as a leader?
It sucks ass that this game has no flexibilities in terms of choosing which party you want in your country
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>>146712185
>delete this
nah
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>>146712341
This is obviously propaganda. Japanese blades never break
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Quick give me some
Good history/gsg memes for my
Collection lads
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>>146712435
>Japanese blades never break
they do when faced with the top dong
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>>146712579
absorb indochina you whore
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>>146712579
>blobbing into russian manchuria and korea
good memes friend
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>>146712334
DH isn't in the infograph

It's not GS anymore

GTFO
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>>146712676
>absorb indochina you whore
they're all my puppets i don't need anymore unaccepted pops
>>146712735
>russian manchuria
that's the meme
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>>146712865
It's not dh you fucking r&i autist, its hoi3
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>>146712306
Got it that all makes sense I think... I'll go raid Åland and see how much money I can make before getting my ass kicked. Any tips on building shit? Like I said, very new, so tips on what to build as well as how to get better tech faster or anything else you think I should know is all appreciated.
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>>146712735
>russian manchuria
>implying it wasn't qing originally
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>>146712896
>they're all my puppets i don't need anymore unaccepted pops
lmao I'm sure those ~6 million pops are gonna really disrupt chinese ethnic hegemony
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>>146711632
damn

is crusader kings 2 easier/more intuitive to play, since you play as a character instead of some amorphous leader of a country
>>
>>146713018
>really disrupt chinese ethnic hegemony
most of china is a colony since i can't form china
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>>146712306
Shit, I'm spending more maintaining my raised levy than I am getting from looting. Am I doinitrong?
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>>146713296
Looting is about the big gains from actually taking holdings via siege, not about the tiny shit you get from having your army sit around in a province
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>>146713084
it's only hard because you don't know the mechanics. it's all effort
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>>146713296
Are you raiding tribal lands or feudal lands? Tribal lands are poor as shit.
>>
Were there a lot of people named Julius and Caesar back then, like how many Americans are named George, Washington, or a combination of both?
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>>146696727
The biggest place in the Buddha zone to the east. Munchkin yourself to have maximum diplomatic power and vassal relations, convert all your vassals and deus vult the shit out of India
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Anyone know a place I can download some hoi4 mods? I fucken hate steam workshop and I don't feel like paying the shekkels to Paradox for an incomplete empty game
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>>146713873
Julius Caesar was actually his family name, and his was a noble family of sorts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julii_Caesares
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>>146714035
https://mega.nz/#F!xwpEVLKI!CmxIJhMLDKnyCBK7VwYdWw
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>>146713728
Ah, yeah, that's probably my problem. Thanks.
>>
why the fuck do i need army mana to modify my division templates

whose idea was this
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>>146714180
how are you supposed to find what you're looking for in this fucking mess
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>>146714354
use workshop to browse around for mods, get the id in the URL of it and get it from the MEGA
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>>146714180
Ay! A bunch of empty folders with some gems hidden in the mud. Thanks, better than nothing.
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>>146714453
ty
>>
keep your shitposting inside your thread you fucking autists
>>
>>146714035
http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
worked for Cities Skylines, EU4 and a couple other games for me
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>>146714789
what
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>>146714175
Yeah I know that, but could you find a lot of commoners by the name of Julius?
>>
>>146715046
stop raiding leftypol we're sorry for raiding you
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>>146715409
what is a leftypol
>>
>>146715409
we don't accept apologies :^)
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>>146715501
a board on cripplechan that raided us last week so we raided them back 10x harder
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>>146715673
>we
speak for yourself
>>
>>146715673
Why would leftypol raid /vg/?
>>
>>146715745
speak for yourself r&i

>>146715764
they've been raiding anything on 4chan that has to do the slightest with politics
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>>146715534
:^)
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>>146715845
what is an r&i
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>>146715042
>http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
wow nice!
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>>146715889
t. guy in pic releated

also
>implying im a nahtzee or ron paul supporter
not everything is black and white faggot
>>
do we really still need the fucking stellaris warning

literally nobody plays it, as we have discovered recently.
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>>146716129
if someone removes it the OP autist will throw a fucking fit
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>>146715889
lmao butthurt you got raided?

also i doubt anyone here is a genuine nazi
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>>146716020
>Political nature


>A bunch of homosexuals that post willy / nicky just because they fancy their beards and in case of nicky, their daughters too

You're a bunch of fucking retards, go back to your place, we already have a ton of shitpost
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>>146716250
lol go back to leftypol raging autist
>>
leftypol are gay faggots
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>>146716250
cool now fuck off before we decide to raid you again
>>
>>146716391
>Implying I'm from there
Are you retarded or don't you know how to read?
>>
>unironically browsing meme chan
>>
Lads help

I can only see/access the top quarter of the screen
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>>146716571
>unironically browsing cripple chan
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>>146716250
Prefer his son desu
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>>146716524
read my post

fuck off to cripplechan
>>
post songfus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b493SVQtY7o
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>>146716620
cripple chan is meme chan you moron
>>
>>146716586
stop cropping faggot :^)
>>
>>146716703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCEUZ4rFiac
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>>146716586
uninstall the HPM virus
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>>146716586
install robmod
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>>146716703
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAsrVmVkXFg
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>>146716586
> .png
Fuck you.
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"H"PM what are you doing
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>>146716697
I'm not from cripple chan you massive faggot, I'm from here
/gsg/ doesn't have a political nature, we just post memes and good looking facists / monarchs
Everyone that brings politics should go back to /pol/ or /leftypol/
>>
>>146716940
wew we were on the same side then

sorry for sperging out lad
>>
>>146716935
>falling for the HPMeme
>>
>take a qt fertile concubine
>fap
How do I prevent this?
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Alex?
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>>146717078
make all the portraits the pre-horse fuckers portraits
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>>146711534
Just get HOI4. You know how to draw arrows, don't you?
>>
>>146716935
>UGH """""H"""""PM MORE LIKE MEMEPM HHHAAA, THIS ISN'T HISTORICAL AT ALL WHY THE FUCK DO YOU ALL PLAY THIS

...

>OMG THIS FUCKING MOD IS SO RAILROADED!!!! WHAT JUST BECAUSE OF "HISTORICAL TRENDS" I CAN'T DO X STUPID MEME SHIT I WANTED TO DO
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Which port should I grab /gsg/? Is Jiaxing the best because it has silk and a decent population?
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I can't figure out how to make any goddamn money or get any more troops in CK2 as Finland
>>
>>146717418
Shanghai, major Chinese city
>>
>>146717391
>Who are you quoting?
>>
>>146717391
>it's an alex spergs out because no one like his mememod episode
>>
>>146717139
that's legitimately rightful unitedstatesian clay though.
>>
>>146716935
>>146717139
>>146717490
>>146717614

t. rob
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>>146717552
>Who are you quoting?
>>
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rate
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>>146717658
talex
>>
>HPMongrels will ACTUALLY defend Slovlake, German Franche-Comte and Banat
>>
>>146717839
>German Franche-Comte
Why does this ALWAYS fucking happen?
>>
>>146717839
They defend literally everything if you haven't noticed yet
>>
>>146717980
Huns have no restraint
>>
>>146716935
>>146717139
>>146717490
>>146717614
>>146717839
I regret to bring this news but i guess im gonna have to.

My brother, Alex Grandi died at a pro EU ANTIFA rally in London. I will be taking over his mod.

-Roberto Grandi
>>
Just bought EU4 on sale and got all the DLC from the OP per a tip. See you in a 100 hours when I learn the game and can talk about it.
>>
>>146718095
What do you have in store for us, Roberto?
>>
>>146718173
Clipper Convoys are going to be a major industrial good in the next update :)
>>
>>146718173
I will start off by giving spain a decision that gives them CB's on the whole Mediterranean
>>
>>146717839
WHY THE FUCK DOES GERMANY TAKE LITHUANIA OVER POLAND
>>
What? The Hoi4 mod was removed? Why?
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>Can release Assyria which is a literal two province meme nation from the Ottomans
>Can't release Kurdistan which is many times larger and more relevant
Why
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>>146718308
Lithuanians are part of the Volksdeutsche
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>mfw steel's demand is below 10000
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>>146717750
>Rosiya
>Sverige
>Eu4

0.1/10
>>
>GERMANY doesn't get a decision to annex russia up to the urals

uhhhhh .................

what the FUCK HPM????
>>
>>146718330
K*rdistan doesn't exist
K*rds are just montaint t*rks
t.rk
>>
>>146718330
Assyrians are based, just feed them land
>>
>>146718308
grob teutonische germania-baltica
>>
you know what, if germany ever has the fortune of actually getting fucking formed at all in my games during the proper time (which is rare), not only do they not manage A-L, they certainly don't manage Franche Comte.
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>>146715387
No because that was a noble family. Romans had an eccentric naming system.
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>>146718686
>>146718585
>>146718330
If I get cheated, then I cheat
>>
>>146709167
>>146710553
I have never heard of this game. Seems interesting. Which region should we decide on? African seems fun since we can be called "Kommunist Uguandan Klique" ??

Jjust off the ttop f my head
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>>146719982
India,
"Poo in the Loo"
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>yfw shen did this with HPM
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>>146720469
>extremely ahistorical blobby borders
What's the point
>>
>>146720469
That hurt to watch. Fuck I remember like, feeling so dead inside as I watched the tendrils of nippon
>>
>>146720469
Nope, that's vanilla and its older than hpm
>>
I'm going to be pretty moderately upset if they don't announce the new CK2 expac on Tuesday. They've teased with dev diaries long enough.
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>>146695260

Will the archive have Stellaris related DLC when the time comes, or will we be forced to buy it and support Johan because it isn't a grand strategy game unlike Distant Worlds and HoI4?
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What are the requirements for someone to be appointed as your chaplain? The fag I want to put there is not listed as an option.
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>>146721357
The lord spiritual must share the liege's religion, and has additional requirements depending on religion:

Non-Muslims:
Can only appoint courtiers, theocratic vassals (such as bishops), or clan leaders
Orthodox rulers (and other with autocephaly) cannot appoint courtiers unless they have no bishops (or are tribal)
Muslims:
Can only appoint characters with one of the religious education traits.
Cannot fire their imam (except indirectly, e.g. by causing them to become imprisoned or transferring vassalage)
Dharmists:
Indian rulers can only appoint those with Brahmin caste to this office.
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>"x child should work on being more ambitious"
>becomes fucking content
why are these events even here if they do they exact opposite of what they should?
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>>146721557
I can't appoint the count of the area I just subjugated, eh? Trying to make him happy but his only decent stats are stewardship and learning (both 10, so not even that great) and my current steward is way better for that post at 18...
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>>146722081
Make him an advisor if you're king level

Orherwise just fuck 'em. It's okay to have one unhappy count.
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>>146722249
Yeah I'm not king level yet. Trying to unite Finland but I have a few provinces to go. Guess I'll just keep an eye on him and if he starts being a faggot I'll toss him in the dungeon.
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what are some things you want to see in ck3?
>successor nomination more widely available
>council can nominate a successor of their choice if they dont like your successor and start a civil war
>more diplomacy between religions
>playable non-merchant republics
>building chains for different unit types rather than being limited by your culture
>technology trees
>county viceroys
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>>146723121
Playable theocracies
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>>146723364
every non-pagan playable region in CK2 is a theocracy.
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>>146723121
more pops
more economy
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>>146723364
that would be boring as fuck
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>>146723607
that is the last thing that should be in ck3
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>>146723813
fuck you
build more liquor factories
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Where's unHPM?
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>>146723121
playable nazi inspired pagan theocracies
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>>146724554
Shot dead by HPM and thrown in a river.
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>>146723950
never really got into ck 2 because there were no liquor factories
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>>146723364
>>146723480
>>146723950
>>146724614
>>146723813
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Re-asking from yesterday

What should my southern border "realistically" look like?
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>>146724805
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>>146725116
all of Eurasia or bust
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>>146725116
should persia really exist
I mean
really
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Why does being a cuckold in CK2 give you a relationship PENALTY? It's so unrealistic!
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>>146725116
All of Turkestan, the Caucus, Persia, historic Armenia, and the Dardanelles.
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>>146725623
It's railroaded bullshit
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>>146725714
Any of that as a vassal/client state?
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>>146726058
fuck off Rob
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>>146726058
trob
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>>146726058
trob
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>>146726058
trob
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>>146725116
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>>146726293
>>146726319
>>146726436
>same ip every time

KEK, sup alex
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>>146726558
nah you're wrong.
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>>146726181
No. All of it belongs to Russia.
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>>146726723
>>146726558
>>146726436
>>146726319
>>146726058
all Rob
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>>146727130
t rob
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>>146723121
shid i want:

pops
more culture types (a single german culture is fucking retarded)
larger map
republics
no / disableable india
better diplomacy
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Anyone know of any good beginner's videos to watch for Crusader Kings 2? I've been browsing a couple, but figured I'd see if there was some guy out there that was better than the others.

Also, should I disable the Sunset Invasion DLC? Some guy in a CK2 beginner's video prefaced his video by saying he has all DLC active except that one "since it can mess things up." Is he just an idiot or should I actually disable it?
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>>146727528
tquill
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>>146727437
Nevermind, I just googled it. I don't want fucking Aztecs invading Europe. What the shit.
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>>146727342
HIP has 3 of those
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>wanting pops in ck2
I don't get this meme. CK2 can get slow enough as it is. How would adding a mechanic that would stay static most of the game anyways with 99% of the population farmers help?
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Is CK2 good? I've had it on my hard drive for a long time.

P.S. Incest disgusts me.
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Is galciv2 worth downloading and trying to play?

Are there any mods that make the game worthwhile?
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>>146728805
only with menethmod
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>>146727894
I know, I play it a lot.
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>>146728138
it's about demographics, man

cultural shifts and migrations. i want to see a French Normandy get slowly swamped with Frankish settlers until the original mudskin population is overwhelmed or leaves

white Jerusalem
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>>146728909
What the heck is that?
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>>146728805
>Incest disgusts me.
Get out
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>>146729037
french Jersualem* not Normandy

>>146729112
fuck off Messalian fetishist, you've been here for four years with your shitty sexual fantasies
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>>146728945
What does that mod do, and are there any good guides for this game?
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>>146729046
?
its a space strategy game lol
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>>146729112
>Get out

No.
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>>146729037
this is basically why i want pops, my huge demographics boner.

I want plagues to actually fucking do something, other than occasionally kill a courtier.
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>>146728909
>>146729214
>>146646674
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0evkEmgBgx0

Christ the pronunciation is horrible on half the song

Why didn't Paradox just hire germans to sing it
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>>146729375
~____~

but galactic civilians 2 is mentioned in OP's picture

Why can't I ask it here?
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>>146729440
yes
Why not just use the historical music?
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>>146729440
>Why didn't Paradox just hire germans to sing it

Shekels for Sweden of course, why do you think they are always so ready with Sabaton music packs?
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>>146729183
gives it a nice map if you ignore the saharra
makes portraits more unique
adds a fuck ton of cultures
adds billions of trivial events that have you constantly pausing the game
still a big step up from vanilla in total
just play it and learn as you go along and read the wiki if jewhans in game descriptions are shit
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>>146729516
It isn't but congrats you made me look.
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>>146729516
It isn't and this isn't the right general
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>>146729658
its under distant worlds :P
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>>146729732
>plays like a GREATLY EXPANDED galciv
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>>146710174
conquering slavlands isn't much of a big deal

if you want a challenge, go for italy.
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>>146730004
so if a "greatly expanded" gal civ is on topic
then so is gal civ itself
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>>146723121
More DLC.
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>>146712579
time for max donging

fulfill the chinese dream of conquering south asia
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>>146727437
>>146727759
Disable Conclave too.
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>>146730495
So if a "greatly expanded" Asia includes Europe, that means Vietnamese are Europeans!
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>>146730803
no it means europeans are asians
which is, technically, accurate
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Alright, understanders of strategy. Steam Sale is up, and I haven't played either CK2 or EU4 since their respective releases. Yes, I've been living under a rock.

What are the DLC's to get for these two games?

Which are the DLC's to avoid at all costs?

Thank you very much and may your empires prosper for thousands of years.
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>>146729440
Sing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JDkdc246QQ
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>>146731017
>paying for dlc when its in this thread right now for free
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>>146731017
Buy ALL of the DLC

for both games

and also buy HOY4 pls

t.
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somebody upload the .mod files for MEIOU in EU4, fuck
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>>146731153
>being a paedophile
neck urself kiddie fiddler
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>>146731282
How's HOI4, mister?

I read it wasn't very complete or balanced, but you seem very friendly so I'm interested in your opinion
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>>146731017
DLC's to get from steam: none
DLC's to get from the archive: anything you want
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>>146731470
>just checked the archive
oh my god, everything's here

Paradox must hate you all though
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>>146731672
>paradox
Just the jews that work for paradox.
Johan secretly supports /gsg/ and our crusade against casuals
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>when you're pulling off a successful invasion of Germany as the Netherlands but it doesn't matter because France sent a total of 6 divisions for the entire Southern front

#justhowiethings
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>>146731791
>johan apologism
Johan hates anything that cuts into his profits.
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>>146731954
Please enlighten this poor anon.
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Hmm, seems I've upset some people.
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>>146731470
Does new DLC work from the steam store WITH what's in the archive? For instance I just installed that free music DLC to check and it's not showing up in the list on the launcher.
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>>146731418
HOY4 is a wonderful and balanced multiplayer 4x with some elements of grand strategy.

A great game to play with friends over a pint of ale, highly recommend 10/10.
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Johan is based
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why hasn't paradox had the mega folder taken down?

they know /gsg/ exists, and so probably know the archive exists, and so probably know that we're helping facilitate piracy of their games. is it just because we have such a low population relative to their entire consumer base?
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>tfw fielding a fuck huge army for only 9.48 a month

fuck you Islam
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>>146732213
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>>146732270
Just pirate the whole lot.
If you already own the base game, just pirate ALL the DLC. It's much less trouble than mixing and matching.
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>>146732198
Back when steam suggested paying for mods, Johan vocally came out in support of it, saying that he was happy that "he could get his cut" of the profits. I'll try and find the screenshot of it on the paradox forums. When the backlash against it came out, he edited his post and tried to hide it.
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>>146731017
Read the info pic
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>>146732380
Blessed be this holy of holiest Ramadan's.

Salaam goy
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>>146731954
Johan is an Autist.

He does not like how Paradox is dealing with their games. He doesn't like the DLC policy, he doesn't like the casualization, he doesn't like the SWEDEN YES-tier intrusions to his historical simulators.

And yes, he privately laments on not making the games more like simulators and less like platforms for easy fun and DLC.

He's a sub-par male specimen due to his physical health, but he likes his games. He just can't do anything but go with the company's flow, he is silenced and basically acts as a lunch-time bug-tester and balancer, a face of Paradox PR and a testemant to past age of Paradox GS games.

He still occasionally plays EU2 and his earlier games, that is more we can say about the newer, more 'progressive' employees at the company.

Johan is an Autist.

He was the creative designer on Stellaris, nothing more. He had a more prominent role in EU4 as the lead for Game Design, but was heavily constrained by release schedule and Wester (CEO) influencing the development to create a more profitable platform for DLC and easy fun. Johan had an even bigger role in the development of CK2 as it's Producer for it's initial development back in 2012, and less constrained by a still transient Wester who had not discovered the perfect formula for profit. CK2, at the time, was an 'okay' game that many people could have seen being improved to be better than CK1, and more.

CK2's DLC was not developed in any way by Johan, and look at the game now.

Games previous to CK2 are either acceptable or more high up there in autistry, while Paradox was still a small (sub-40 employees) yet growing company and Johan still had a voice that was listened to.

Johan is an autist.
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>>146731851
I hate this game
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>>146732482
>>146732198
That was easy. He was also vocal about how he "doesn't give a fuck about AI programming" because EU4 is a multiplayer esports style game.

>>146732536
Shit tier pasta.
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>>146732652
>not getting your cut
You just won the Goy of the Year award anon.
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>>146732652
Johan's forum account has been hijacked by the suits in Paradox the publisher. He's not allowed to speak his mind anymore, so he lurks here.
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It's difficult to take down mega links, besides it hasn't been updated in several months.
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>>146732389
>The entirety of Western Europe is outnumbered 2:1 by a handful of city states

Thanks Paradox.
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>>146732816
It hasn't been updated since R&I killed the old guard and hijacked the thread.

It can't be updated since the creator of the mega is dead at R&I's hands.
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>>146719982
Let's all be in China and be called "The Heavenly Kingdom", we need to use historic meme nations.
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Hi folks, first time posting here but I understand you should be familiar with me, it's always exciting to see a new facet of our fanbase!

It's recently come to our attention over at Paradox HQ that this thread serves as a dev HQ for one "Historical Project Mod" for Victoria II, unfortunately this mod violates several of our mod rules, namely 1) The User Mod may not have an external public forum, they can have one for their internal development use but not disclosed to the general membership here, nor allowing them to join, rule 7) No material from one Paradox IP(Game or DLC, includes any content in them) may be used in a user mod, unless that user mod can assure only people with that other Paradox IP installed can use it. If doing that is beyond the technical ability of the particular mod maker or it is impossible then they cannot be used. and rule 10) The Mod should be exclusive to the members of this forum and or Steam workshop.

You can find our whole list of rules about these matters and the discussion here
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/rules-for-user-made-mods-and-edits-of-pds-games.708039/

I'd appreciate if the mod creator sees this if he could please cease and desist immediately as well as delete his mod files and immediately cease distribution of any version of the mod that contains content from other Paradox titles and to any persons not known to own a legitimate copy of Victoria 2 through either a linked code on their Paradox Forum account or directly through their steam account.

I hope we can work this matter out without involving our legal team, thank you everyone for being fans and together lets make space great again!
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>>146732961
>>146732816
It was updated 4 days ago
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>It's a steamgruppe tries to disparage based Oberststurmbannfuhrer Johan by making shit up episode
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>>146732763
sad!
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>>146733421

How about you make your autistic shitposting great again cuck?
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>>146733421
I have a lot of friends in the game making industry, I'm a big friend of the jews.

But when I say that the endless days of poorly made half-assed DLC and jewish prices have gone on long enough I mean it.

We have to do something people, we need a solution, a final solution! Let's make genocide great again.
t. Johan Andersson, Prime Minister of the Swedish Empire 2020
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How do I get colonial migration as Spain in un-HPM?

I got exactly 0 Spainiards moving to colonies but about 300 a month to the US
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>>146733804
cheat
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tfw no East vs West
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How hard is it to get used to Victoria II if I've only played HoIIV?

I had it for a while but never got into playing it, now that my friend gifted me HoI and taught me how to play it I've been really enjoying it and wondering how the other games are.

Do I get to go out and civilize savages? Can I persecute ethnic groups?
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>>146734064
HOY4 EvW DLC coming soon to steam goy!


HOY HOY HOY HOY
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>>146734064
Feels good man.
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>>146734147
You get to build liquor factories and encourage bureaucrats.
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>>146733349
>iohannes iocos historicos facere solum voluit
>malefactores labores eius furati sunt ut profectum habeant
tristis
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>>146734329
I don't speak subhuman.
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>>146733875
>>146733804
I've played RobMod with some great migration rates, but they are virtually non-existent in un-HPM. I'd appreciate any pointers in how to change values to increase colony migration.
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>>146704497
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia
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>>146734414
>not speaking korean
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>>146705059
more ) = more xaxa

t. anon with tundra fever
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gsg where you form nwo when?
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MEMES
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>tfw the Pacific theatre in HoI 3
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>>146734861
Is he any good?
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SEME(N)
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>>146734876
>not playing War in the Pacific
fucking parapleb
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>>146734163
this desu
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>>146735023

Sssssh bb, too comfy for your casual tears
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>>146731086
never seen this movie
why did they start singing exactly?
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>>146729578

why would anyone pay for historical music that they could just find on youtube?

idiot
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>>146735012
sems to me like a horse should have good martial and diplomacy
and maybe good fertility too

producing a new horse race
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>>146734876
>plays outdated game in 2016
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>>146732763
I don't like this defending johan meme
he's not one of the lads
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>>146734564
So?
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>>146735273
>give horse a county
>marries some lowborn skank
>horse genes superior to human genes, leading to horse kids

this sounds dangerous
>>
Or my personal favorite, communisim with the pope
>>
You meme'd another anon for suggesting priest dynasties despite the fact that there is clear historical basis of clerical dynasties.
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>>146735012
>knight riding a mare
dropped
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>>146735274

>Wiz could be comfy, but instead he stays salty
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is there an easy way to tell whether or not a mod disables achievements in ironman mode? Usually you cant even select ironman if your checksum isnt the default standard. I guess that was changed for hoi4?

yes i know,
>achievements
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>>146735493
>>146735583

whoops
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Why is it that adventurers almost never have enough troops do actually accomplish their goals?

seriously, I'll see shit like claimants to england invading it with like 2k guys against like 50k from england.
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>>146734064
>Johan wins again
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>>146735583
But there isn't
The borgias were a landed dynasty, they were dukes and counts
They weren't priestly dynasty, that's nonsense
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>>146735649
>plays for achievements in 2016
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>>146735919
>you can't have both

The Papacy is, by definition, a landed title you retard.

>bishop
>of
>rome
>>
What Crusader Kings II DLC actually does something?
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>>146734064
Johan cancelled it when he realised it could scare away casuals and ruin HoI4.
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>>146735159
They sing to show their fighting spirit. They all sing to bond with one another before going into battle.

I haven't seen the movie in a long time, but I think that is Joachim Peiper. He was given objectives to take, but only 25% of the fuel to take them--he was expected to capture fuel dumps along the way. To make matters worse, he was given a very thirsty Tiger II.
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>>146695260

I converted a CKII game into EUIV.

I played the Jamalids, who started as the counts of Acre, but then became indepedent after a war, owning vast holdings in Anatolia.

Before that, they had also begun what I headcanon as a "Jihad up the Dnieper".

They control Russia from Moscow to Kiev, control Hungary, bits of Poland, Anatolia, England and the Scottish lowlands.

What's the best bet at taking them down? Or will Europe be engulfed in kebab?
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Reminder
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>>146736304
>kebab meme
Well done, my fellow /pol/ack! You must save Europa from the degeneracy of Islam! Spread the word of the redpill far and wide!
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>>146736304
why, you've already won
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>>146736453
salty turk itt
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>>146736453
fuck a goat sandnigger lol
>>
>>146736046
And a bishopric is a non hereditary position
It's not dynastic
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>>146736304
>

>

>
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>>146736567
it literally doesn't matter; neither are merchant republics and elective monarchies

the fun of the game is keeping your dynasty in power through every means at your disposal, and there's plenty of room for this when we're talking about the Papacy, which bounced back and forth between a small handful of dynasties during the game's timeframe
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>>146736304
>.png
kill yourself
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>>146736605
>>
SO HAS ANYONE HAD SUCCESS IN FIXING HOI4 HERE?

sry just want a response, ai less stupid mods?

especially since podcat is a LAZY FUCK whos leaving us for two months without fixing JACK SHIT
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>>146736539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYUVCufE634

Got ya covered. If Turks joined Axis in WW2 would Allies split them apart to Kurds and whatever?
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>>146736708
>especially since podcat is a LAZY FUCK whos leaving us for two months without fixing JACK SHIT

he's literally required by law to take a two month vacation
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>>146736304
play as Ulm
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>>146736668
Yes it does.
In merchant republics you still have a minor title of patrician. Just because you aren't the doge doesn't mean you don't have lands. You still do.
In elective monarchies you are expected to hold other titles, such as duke or count.

The church doesn't work like this. At all.

> and there's plenty of room for this when we're talking about the Papacy,
No, there isn't.
The papacy isn't a hereditary or dynastic title.

That's a retarded idea.
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>>146736834
>The papacy isn't a hereditary or dynastic title.

neither are merchant republics and elective monarchies.
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>>3319657
Shit
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>>146736834
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepotism

>special system
>can only promote your relatives
Would be fun.
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we did it reddit
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>>146736967
Both can be. The papacy can't.

>>146737006
That kind of shit doesn't fly well in the church.
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>>146736708
>take the better al research mod/al overhaul mod.
>take the better axis mod.
>take something that fixes the general stuff like gsg general fixes mod.

Profit??
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>>146737148
except it literally was at multiple points in history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Medici

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Della_Rovere

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccolomini

each of these houses put multiple fucking popes on the throne you coon
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>>146737148
>doesnt fly well in the church
It literally is the church silly. First thing every single pope did was putting his relatives in important positions.
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>>146737251
>2 popes
>3 popes
>2 popes
>this makes the papacy dynastic
>most of this shit happened during the 16th century or end of the 15th, when the church got so corrupt it lead to the protestants and the church losing all its power

These are all landed dynasties.
Besides, you can make that in game. You can put someone from your dynasty in the papacy.

The idea of having a dedicated priestly dynasty, like patricians are for republics, is retarded.

>>146737270
In the end of the game time frame, which is what caused it to lose all itspower.
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>>146737481
good thing I literally never said the papacy was dynastic and in fact said the exact opposite by comparing it to non-dynastic merchant republics and elective monarchies.

>>146737481
>The Catholic Church lost all it's power by 1453

this was literally only the beginning of the zenith of church power.

read a book
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Is there any point to ground attack missions in HoI4 when the air superiority bonuses are so good already? Might as well just spam fighters and save yourself the expense.
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>>146737612
>good thing I literally never said the papacy was dynastic and in fact said the exact opposite
Good so why are we arguing? You can put your relatives in the papacy and do what these dynasties did.

>The Catholic Church lost all it's power by 1453
That's not what I said.
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Are there any good forum exclusive mods for Hoi4 yet?

t.piratefag
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>>146737691

Doesn't CAS/Tacs cause casualties outside of combat?
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who the fuck is this Smooth McGroove / Cousin It motherfucker

>Bosnian
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>>146737694
>Good so why are we arguing? You can put your relatives in the papacy and do what these dynasties did.

Because you claimed that there were never papal dynasties when another anon suggesting playable popes. I'm not going to let you say something incorrect on the internet, and especially not on 4chan of all places.

>That's not what I said.

It literally fucking is.

>In the end of the game time frame, which is what caused it to lose all itspower.

this is your exact quote. the end date of CKII is 1453
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i dont like the idea of the Papacy being owned by the same dynasty for over 800 years
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>>146737838
>2 pops of the same dynasty
>suddenly it became a papal dynasty
There isn't any papal dynasties. There are landed dynasties who scores 2 pops and a very are one that scored 3.
Wow.

The argument btw is about priestly dynasties. You need, a dynasty dedicated to priestly life and getting to the pope position. Which is a retarded idea.

>this is your exact quote. the end date of CKII is 1453
Oh, so it's a problem of reading comprehension. I meant that nepotism and corruption became rampant at the end of the time frame and this caused the church to lose all its power. I didn't say the church lost all its power by 1453.

>>146737903
Apparently, having 2 popes of the same dynasty justifies that.
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Boys... in HOI4 How the fuck can i attack, let's say..... Venezuela as Canada?

Rookie btws
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>>146737903

No one in this thread has suggested that. It wouldn't be fun. Nice strawman.

>>146738035
>There isn't any papal dynasties


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Borgia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Medici

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Della_Rovere

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piccolomini

Anyone who has ever been the pope is landed by definition. The distinction between landed and unlanded dynasties is meaningless because only bishops can be elected to the papacy in CKII and all bishops are landed.
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>>146738071

Can your PM accept the help of South African firefighters that have never used firehoses after turning down help from the US, Mexico, and Russia?
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>>146738071
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what if they implemented a modified merchant republic system where landed dynasties can compete for papal influence, with a playable papacy so a player character can win the tiara in their lifetime but still have a secular heir and not game over when they die. Tied in with a church corruption system that expands the process as the church becomes richer and more corrupt, in 1000 dynastic control of the papacy would be weak and you probably wouldn't be able to get your whoremongering brother elected, but by 1400 you could probably just outright buy the seat with the click of a button.
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>>146738147
They aren't papal dynasties. They are normal, landed dynasties who scored a papacy two times.

They aren't like a patrician dynasty - a dynasty made for a merchant republic.
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>>146738203
Make mechanics inflate as the Papal State grows.
>>146738224
>Johan spends all the time arguing instead of making theocracies work
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>>146738224
>They aren't papal dynasties. They are normal, landed dynasties who scored a papacy two times.

There's literally no difference between these two things. People from the same family inheriting the same position repeatedly is literally the exact definition of a dynasty.

>They aren't like a patrician dynasty - a dynasty made for a merchant republi

Which doesn't fucking matter. The merchant republic system doesn't need to be copypasted. It's merely an example of non-hereditary government that is already playable in the game thus removing all justification for theocracies being unplayable.
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watching my vassals scurry across the Levantine desert attacking muzzies is fun as fuck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
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>>146738203
How would that work? You would play as someone who does fuck all for 50 years while he studies, becomes a bishop, then at 60 with some extreme luck and only because of AI landed characters manage to help you you get to the papacy when you are 60, you are the pope for 3 years in which you can do fuck all but appoint bishops and excommunicate a few people then you die?
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>>146737785

Nope, they only attack active battles, according to wiki and forum.
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>>146738352

Maybe EUIV is more your speed buddy.
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>>146738352
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Alexander_VI

Idiot, this pope used his position to literally create new kingdoms for his dynasty and enrich his family. The appointment of bishops and excommunication is incredibly powerful; you can stack the richest bishoprics with your family members and excommunicate anyone who stands in the way.

You're thinking in a box.
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>>146738369
What has gsg done to him?
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>>146738329
>There's literally no difference between these two things.
Yes, there is.

>is literally the exact definition of a dynasty.
>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dynasty
>a powerful group or family that maintains its position for a considerable time
>pope for 3 years
>considerable amount of time

They weren't papal dynasties. Someone from their dynasty got the papacy two times, that's all.

> The merchant republic system doesn't need to be copypasted.
Good, because the idea of a dynasty dedicated to the priest life is retarde. It would die out.

> non-hereditary government that is already playable in the game thus removing all justification for theocracies being unplayable.
The maximum title is non hereditary. The basic landed title, patrician, is hereditary.

You can't compare both.
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What are the best Darkest Hour mods that you'd recommend, besides memereich?
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Playing Victoria II for the first time should I do it without any mods or is there anything I should have to begin with?
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>>146738625
>Good, because the idea of a dynasty dedicated to the priest life is retarde. It would die out.

no one asked for this

>The maximum title is non hereditary. The basic landed title, patrician, is hereditary.

no one asked for this

>They weren't papal dynasties. Someone from their dynasty got the papacy two times, that's all.

They didn't "get" the papacy. They earned it through consistent influence in the ecclesiastical hierarchy based on their family members being integrated into the College of Cardinals and various archbishoprics and bishoprics. During the times when they personally didn't have members on the throne they still exacted great influence over the church as a whole which culminated in multiple papacies which owed allegiance to the house.

There's literally no reason to not have playable theocracies; all you've done is argue semantics, not the core issue. Get the fuck off vacation and get to work right now, Johan,
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Is 1.1.0 playable or riddled with bugs?
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>>146738805
get robmod
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>>146738851
Which game?
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>>146738805
see >>146738885
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>>146738824
>no one asked for this
Yet it's what you are defending. You jumped up to prove that the Borgias were somehow a priestly dynasty.

>no one asked for this
It's the hereditary title of the merchant republics. How would that work in a theoracy?

>They didn't "get" the papacy.
Yeah, they did.

>There's literally no reason to not have playable theocracies
There's literally no reason to have playable theocracies. You idea of what a dynasty is wrong, you are retarded to think a priestly dynasty would work.

>but muh borgias
You can do what the borgias did. You can spend money and get someone from your dynasty to be the pope.
But they were a normal, landed dynasty. You can't just zap in the pope when someone from your family becomes the pop, that's retarded. You can't play as someone trying to get to the papacy because that literally means renouncing your lands and family to study and become a bishop to maybe get to the papacy. You can't lose the election to the papacy and hang around in your patrician estates, still being a noble with a landed title.

There's no element of succession in the church. Stop being retarded.
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>>146738924
HoI4
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>>146738805
Play vanilla first, then move on to HPM.
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>>146738346
don't disgrace such a good song with some shit videogame
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>>146738369
Seriously tho
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>>146738652
Alt History? Bonaparte Legacy is not as refined yet as KR, but it's got potential. Also with lots is Fatherland.

Playthrough? New World Order 2 seems to got it, dunno.

Also, if you don't have the SKIFs packs by Kazoo, you're doing it wrong. For KR, DarkArk's are the ones.
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>>146739782
would you rather me play M&B with a Crusades mod

would you rather me play a real game like Medieval 2: Total War

would you rather me play something shitty like Civ IV Crusades Scenario
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Rate my blob infidels!
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>>146740085
I'd rather this general didn't exist
not that I'm actually any better than any of you but the mental image of some faggot dancing in his chair to palastinalied while playing dumb crusader fantasies just hurts; these things that we plsy all actually happened and to those that participated we're just so so fucking pathetic.
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>>146740373
This, stupid fucking boring century.
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>>146740373
oh
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my mood is ruined
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>>146738805
as long as you steer clear of HPM, you'll be fine. hpm's economy is completely broken.
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>>146740373
Hey news flash, video games are pastimes, not meant to be your purpose in life. They are amusements, it's just like watching TV but more interactive and mentally stimulating.
Nothing wrong with enjoy ing some thematic music while playing vidya for a couple hours, Debbie Downer.
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>>146740373
not an argument
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>>146741142
Is that Louis CK?
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>>146740241
I'm still in awe they did this
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>>146741248
no, Stefan Molyneux
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>>146741248
They don't even look similiar
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>>146741346
>>146741429

I don't know either of them that much actually just that their are both semi-bald and are frequently posted on 4chan.
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>>146740982
In what way?
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Can anyone explain why does Paradox games create a cache folder? I don't think other games do the same
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>>146741546
*they

sorry
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>>146741572
Steel's demand is massively overblown and liquor was heavily nerfed
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>>146741621
That's just how Clausewitz works, not that bad actually, allows for easier modification.
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>>146734414

Then why are you typing in english lad
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How should I punish the Germans /gsg/?
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>>146742629
By acquiring the Rheinland obv.
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>>146739857

Was probably more marriage than map painting tbhfam
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>>146742629
By mere existence, frenchie.
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>>146739857
dam
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>>146739105
bugged

developers going on a much deserved vacation after :^)
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>>146742683
that's been done so many times

>>146742629
take baden
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>>146740373
reminder that everyone in the crusades pooped
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>>146742629
Either take alsace-Lorraine or take Bavaria from sphere and prevent them from ever turning into Germany
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>>146704624
>it's gotta be christian
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Can anyone tell me how to make money in CK2 as Karelia? I have enough of Finland to create the kingdom but I need 118 gold and I only have 5. Should I be raiding? I haven't figured out how to actually make that profitable.
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>>146742629
Just try it Christophe
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>>146743784
Ransom missionaries
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So first time playing Victoria 2

Do I play vanilla or with HPM?
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>>146744314
Play Divergances
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>>146744314
HPM, or at least NNM, vanilla Vicky 2 feels so bland
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>>146739857
Kek he disabled comments on his videos
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>>146744314
robmod
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>>146744314
HPM released a vanilla fix mod a while ago, play with that
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>>146744314
Play PoD. HPM is just a shitty meme.
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>>146744381
Should I disable crisis until 1870 or leave it on?
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Hahahahahaha how the fuck potato famine was real hahaha Nigga just grow something else like nigga just go fishing haha
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>>146739857
this arumba?
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>>146744449

>t. Oliver Cromwell
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>>146744381
is nnm based on HPM because hPm's provinces look better than vinilla
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>>146744253
Where do you find these missionaries?

I actually just found out that some Swedish nobleman was a faggot and blackmailed him so I'm good on the kingdom now but I could still use more gold.
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>>146744430
enable it, it's not a big deal for the player until later as long as you're not a GP
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>>146744314
Hpm
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>>146744594
They will come to you, especially when your neighbours Christianize

Long story short, unless you reform, you're screwed, because when your neighbours Christianize, they're going to convert that sweet spurdo-sparde clay.
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>>146744585
HPM, and pretty much every single other worthwhile mod out there today, is based on NNM. The newest HPM differs a bit from NNM though
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>>146744525
Yes, he got pretty famous with his Walter White role in Breaking Bad. Perhaps you've heard of him?
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>>146743339
legitimately good response
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>>146744783
am I being memed? What happened to him?
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>>146744667
Yeah I've actually been hoping to get converted. Guess it just hasn't spread close to me yet though.
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>AI is terrible
>mechanics are wonky and suffers badly from silly limitations
>meme arrows magic is basicly handing your armies over to AI
>you dont need anything but fighters, infantry and artillery

this is a ww1 simulator, and it gets really boring fast once you learn the basics
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>>146745032
Victoria 2?
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>>146744847
Same thing that happened to Brendan Fraser.
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>>146716250
>talks about beards
>doesn't even post surpreme beard emperor
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>>146745092
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi_mSrvy52Q
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>>146695973
Play someone in a hotly contested area, who is a vassal and who has vassals, like a duke in spain. You will lose and fuck up, but you will learn how everything roughly works. If you start in Ireland you will be bored to death, and you won't know what to do ifyou for example inherit a large demesne with vassals. Ireland and Nordics are there for you to build you entire kingdom from scratch - and you prpably aren't able to do that in your first few games. Just go with a medium-size realm and a medium sized family admist political turmoil in 1066 and you will immediately start to learn all the stuff that is in the game. Paradox gsgs will overwhelm you, but just don't give a fuck. Let the game roll ahead and do stuff that feels like the right thing to do and suffer consequences like a true medieval lord.

If you don't like the way you're playing, don't play like that and do something else. There's plenty of posibilities in CK2. My first great campaing was with pagan poland, but I had tried vikings before that and they are very slow to start rolling unless you know what you're doing. I sure as hell didn't.

Welcome faggot.
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>>146696154
Well it certainly isn't for everyone. I almost immediately also started modding the game to make it more interesting and flavored.

It's not fun in the traditional sense. You click shit and wait forever for changes to show. But it is super rewarding to start seeing the thing you did to start to have an effect in the world, and the game world feels alive like only few other worlds feel. CK2 might be more traditionally fun, but for me victoria 2 was the first gsg i've played so that's not impossible either. If you like the timeperiod there's very few similiar games. But if communist rebels overthrowing post wwi england isn't something that interests you, vic2 might not be the game for you. I just love to watch the world roll and make my small corner of it better than everyone elses.

It's also hard as fuck, but losing is fun. Play something like Austria and enjoy your trying to (unsuccesfully) keep your empire together.

If you're not modding the game, build liquoir factories.
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Great. The UI in Hearts of Iron 4 is fucked up for me so arrows for offensive planning and shit are a mess of disparate pixels instead of visible arrows. There goes my possibility of enjoyment.
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>>146743784
Ransom missionaries
Raid by sea after Viking Age becomes active
Business focus for the mint coins event - very useful but may result in prestige loss
Build a temple holding so you have a temple vassal, which will give you a fuckton of income compared to your tribal income. Change your temple obligation to tax-shifted.
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>>146746072
Micromanage
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>>146746454
The only reason I want to fuck with HoI4 is because I want to do broad plans and watch the ai try and/or fail to complete them. If I wanted to micromanage i'd go back to HoI2 derivatives, which I probably will..
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>>146708829
Well just start rolling, how did you learn the other games?
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this is supposed to depict an arrow.

Great fucking work, swedes.>>146746072
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>>146711534
No, just autism is a requirement.
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>>146711534
They're basically sandbox games, so no
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>>146717226
You don't draw arrows in HoI4 though, you only draw offensive frontlines.
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THERE ARE PEOPLE ON /GSG/ WHO DON'T LIKE LIQUORIA 2 RIGHT NOW
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>>146746580
reinstall, uninstall, rebuy the game and fix your computer
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>>146746918
>>146746580
>>146746072
It's alright, I fixed it!

I'm sorry for insulting you in the heat of the moment, Paradox!

I'll buy a DLC in apology ;)
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>>146715387
No, because his given name was Gaius which [was] common, but if you had a family name of Julius then you had to have been part of that noble house. It's like asking if you could find a lot of commoner Capets.
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>>146744314
HPM. Despite memelords it's bretty good. Just don't let germany roll freely
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>>146723121
More roleplaying mechanics
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>>146744430
It almost doesn't matter, but usually I leave them on. The first possibilities for crises are in the 1860's earliest anyway.

Crisis-released stuff creates coo
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>>146723121
less dlc and more good game at release

>>146723813
because there weren't economies or people in middle ages
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How we so ded
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>>146749228
every single time this late faggot
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>>146749228
newfag
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>>146749302
It's 630
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>>146749478
I know
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Hearts of Iron IV confirmed shit

>AI can barely create new divisions, just spams hundreds of infantry divisions without support so if you as much as add a brigade or two of artillery to your infantry-congrats you're undefeatable, build some proper armour and you'll conquer the world. It's easy as fuck to conquer half the world with Poland.
>AI apparently has no priorities at all, Italy will send a hundred divisions to Ethiopia and Lybia, conquering half of Africa, while their core provinces are invaded by the UK. Thus the UK has the same problem, will invade shit but wont defend what it already has
>The AI will send troops by sea no matter if it has a navy or not, losing dozens of divisions, cue Italy sending shit trough the English channel for no fucking reason
>At the same time the German AI will ignore the obvious threats from, lets say, Italy being invaded by the allies, it will instead just let Italy be over run while it garrisons the Yugoslav border with 30 divisions a few provinces aside
>"Historical focus" box apparently does nothing, US, Japan, Italy, etc regularly enter the war in 1939, everyone declares on everyone, everything just turns into a clusterfuck of wars involving the entire world, hardly if ever they're even close to being historical, instead you get shit like 100 soviet divisions moving trough Axis nations to attack the allies (the fuck?)
>the AI is using its "planning bonus" before invading province that literally have no troops. Thus divisions are chilling on an empty province waiting to invade with the all important bonus.
>the AI is busy strategically redeploying half of the army along the front at all times anyway so they're at low org constantly
>AI can't even keep ships together, most are in port anyway and can be killed with NAV's even if you don't have a single fighter, bombs are teleported anyway.
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>>146737691
CAS planes can also port and naval strike. So as Germany I like to produce both fighters and CAS so I use them for their slight bonuses in battles, and later deplete the Royal Navy with my CAS.
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>>146746971
How did you fix it?
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>>146749509
>confirmed
It was confirmed shit at launch.
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>>146749228
you unironically brought it to life
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>>146749509
Quick, post your best peace deal maps everyone!
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>>146749683
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>>146749509
>>146749597
Guys I don't think it's fair to judge a pre alpha game.

Don't buy early access games if you don't like few rough edges


:^)
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>>146749683
I got all German, Italian and Japanese lands for myself. But then I'm Murrika so it doesn't matter.
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>>146749509
>the most effective airwing is 3 fighters per squadron, lmao you thought micromanaging was bad in hoi 3? Tough luck, now go reorganizing your airforce in 1000 airwings of 3 to max your K/D
>lmao you thought the plans would reduce micro? Tough luck, now instead of controling individual divisions you can unfuck the fronts/armies every 5 minutes, especially if you create a pocket, and you can do all that while your divisions and armies are just fucking blobs on the map with allies mixed in, just to make it more fuckable and tedious
>The AI is busy strategically redeploying half of the army along the front at all times if you so much as take a new province so they're at low organisation anyway at all times
>Naval strategies? You don't need them, just mass every ship together and kill everything that floats
>Supplies? What supplies? You don't need oil to fuel tanks silly or food for infantry, or ammunition or anything else, just some arbitraray supply limits in provinces do the tricks.
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>>146749757
Not a peace deal but check this shit out
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>>146749808

The rest I get but the first line is new to me. What's the meme behind that?
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>>146749879
>people paid money for this
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>>146749941
I have hundreds of these in my screenshot folder.
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>>146741307
They support Austrian, Russian and Chinese monarchy
I'm okay with this
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>>146750103
>trypophobia intensifies
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>>146749938
The smaller the airwings the higher the K/D ratio, some fuck in the forums did some testing, and then some others did so as well and backed it up. Essentially 3 airwings of 100 will always outperform one airwing of 300 and 100 airwings of 3 will outperform everything else.

>>146749879
It's just a massive clusterfuck. This shit won't be fixed in a year, there's just too much of it. Everything's broken, the AI on several levels, the industry mechanics, the army mechanics, the air mechanics, the navy mechanics, the trade mechanics, etc. Even the basic concepts like National Focuses are fucking retarded.


Also, the best way to actually conduct invasions on anything but minors (and even then, but the AI can handle that) is to assign the front line, make a plan and then, before invading, delete everything and move divisions manually-HOI-2 style except it's more tedious.
>>
>>146750401
How is it even possible to code the game like this.

Literally the simplest possible coding they could do would result in wing size not mattering.


I fucking 100% guarantee this is some spaghetti from the ace scaling up the stats but with wings scaling without the ace or something as stupid as that.
>>
>>146749683
>only the sudetenland is still independent
And THAT'S why provinces are a good idea.
>>
>>146750540
>I fucking 100% guarantee this is some spaghetti from the ace scaling up the stats
Nope, they did some testing on that as well, the aces will generate faster (but not nearly 100x as fast as a single airwing of 300) but they'll die off almost instantly. Besides this is from the start of the war and before any aces existed.


The game was designe and made by a bunch of shitters most of whome never worked on a HOI games before, that's why it's shit, that's why much of it simplified (if not straight up dumb downed, simplification in itself is not necesserally bad) and that's why the game ended up being what it is-shit. Instead of working on what they already had from the previous HOI games and improving upon it (as they've done from the first one) they made something practically from scratch.

And this is why Victoria 3 will be shit.
>>
>>146750103
Forget EU3 tiers of border gore
We have a new standard at last.

>>146750746
>Victoria III won't have liquor factories being overpowered
>because factories won't exist
>POPs will be stellaris style without an overview pane
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>>146750746
>tfw there will be no more good gsg :(
>>
>>146750746
I didn't mean that.

I meant that when they coded the ace stat scaling for smaller wings it somehow leaks over to regular wings who get the effect whether or not there is an ace even there.
>>
>>146750864
Fucking lmao
>>
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Reminder Hearts of Panzers has been released.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/hearts-of-panzers
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>>146751074
*cringes*
>>
>All these people having meme hoi4 games
>I haven't seen one of these memes in my games yet.

Maybe I'm just lucky.
>>
>>146706932
This level of trolling is over 9000
>>
>>146751131
It's like the game generates a meme counter for each new game
I've had games where almost no memes happen and games where everything happens, where Japan eats california but loses against China and gets invaded by them at Hokkaido and Germany reforms the HRE by attacking Italy etc.
>>
>>146751074
It's not possible to pick one, I will add them all to my harem.
>>
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>>146751131
My first few games seemed alright, then it just started to turn into this. Every. Fucking. Game.
>>
>>146706932
Is this her version of revenge to get him thrown into jail again or something

>>146751074
DUCE DUCE DUCE
>>
>>146750103
Post your brazil
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>>146751217
Whoops meant to post the peace deal.
>>
>>146751328
I liked the Brazil version better
>>
>>146749757
[KURWA INTENSIFIES]
>>
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Guys I'm new to this game. How do I make Serbia not be a shithole?

Also why do I have an upper house as an absolute monarchy? Who the fuck sits there? Is there a way to see your current leader/king?

I'm already planning on building liquor factories
>>
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>>146751817
>vanilla
>>
So whats the verdict on Hearts of Iron IV?
>>
>>146751989
pre alpha
>>
>>146751989
It makes EU4 looks like GOTY and i fucking hate EU4
>>
>still no grandstrategy thats not europe centered and has start choices from 500 BC up until today
>crusader kings is shit

im so fucking tired of the European medieval ages and the entire era
>>
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>>146751817
Is getting stuff here worth it? I don't really know what to research. Right now I've just been focusing on education and the stuff that boosts research rates.

3 out of my 4 provinces produce grain, so 20% more grain is like a 15% increase in economic output, right?
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What the fuck is up with this shit? They weren't out of supply in Spain. When I've sent troops the other way around (Germany to Japan) they havn't been out of supply. I can't fucking use these things, and there's apparently no way to get them back without starting my own war?
>>
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>>146752298
Im no master of Vicky 2 but you better start going for medicine or you will feel the eternal cholera/influenza combo absolutely murdering your pops
>>
>>146752384
Do you control Gibralta and Suez?
>>
>>146752502
Why is ASAP and important the same colour?
>>
>>146752568
You colorblind m8?
>>
>>146752620
w-what?
>>
>>146752620
>>146752568
They're not the same color but they are annoyingly close on the chart, look at Navy tech for instance

You can barely tell machine guns is red
>>
New thread when
>>
>>146752538
I'm Japan, of course I don't. Why would that matter? Italy, Slovakia and Hungary are all adjacent to Germany.
>>
>>146752568
>>146752749
Nice meme.
>>
>>146752384
Press F4
>>
>>146752906
yeah, supply is all in the blue.
>>
>>146750858
Why would you want them? Are you autistic?
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>>146752976
Wait, christ wtf. Blue is neutral, Green is what I want. Why the fuck are my volunteers, sent to germany and shit, out of supply in germany, but good to go in occupied poland and france?

Some fucking broke ass shit
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Can you use pirate dlc with eu 4?
>>
>>146753126
That was one ugly screenshot
>>
>>146751989
It's a lot of fun!
>>
>>146753164
You can but they only work if you have purchased all the cosmetic unit packs legit and have guns germs and steel sountrack enabled
>>
>>146753031
>this guy
>>
>>146753164
Go into the MEGA
Download the crack
Download the DLC
Enjoy
>>
>>146752832
http://niceme.me/
>>
Hi, where would I go about editing the diplomacy, more specifically. Why wouldn't I be able to warn a stronger nation if it basically means I would be joining against them in a war. Shouldn't that be my "risk" to take?
I want to disable that part.
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>anti-aliasing for 3d textures
>on a grand fucking strategy game
i hate paradox

NO MORE FLASHY MAPS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>146752298
IT IS TIME

Finally Russia is willing to join me in a war. If Austria and the Ottomans refuse to balkanize on their own, we'll force it.
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>>146754347
>Paradox makes a "performance" version
>Flat map, no 3D, flat colors, no post processing and bunch of other performance upgrades
>Ends up running worse than the original
>>
>>146754275
Basically, it claims
>they are far too rich and powerful for our warnings to be taken seriously

It's alright, I actually want them to take it not seriously and attack one of my neighbors.
>>
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>>146754510
Shit.

When will the Serb be liberated?
>>
new
>>
>>146754626
That must have been a fun game
>>
>>146749509
>germany stationing hundreds of divisions on the mongolian and whatever the fuck border despite those nations having no army
>it has battleplans too!
>never actually invading
>invading australia with 5 division, gets fucked every time
>indonesian islands left in hands of holland every single time no matter what
>transporting 33 division over the atlantic, to the bottom of the sea without any fleet
>never building aircraft
>always building rockets
>no army integrity whatsoever
>invading britain with nothing but boats
>royal navy sits in ports
>>
new thread
>>146755285
>>146755285
>>146755285
>>
new thread
>>146755372
>>146755372
>>146755372
>>146755372
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>>146755385
btfo
>>
>>146755346
>>146755385
wew
>>
>>146755346
>13 posts early

>>146755385
>12 posts early
>>
>>146755551
t. xxx post early autist
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>>146754510
Did you really do nothing for 50 years?
>>
>>146755602
t. report and ignore autist
>>
>>146755385
>>146755346
>needing attention this bad
how sad is your life
>>
>>146755346
>>146755385
I hate both of you so fucking much
>>
>>146755741
t. I hate r&i autist autist
>>
>last page
Why
>>
one last meme
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>>146759218
fuck off
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