Total War General /twg/

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

I have seen the end of threads and posts from now shitposters will say...

Here began the fall of /twg/

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I was expecting CA to be maximum jew and have a truckload of DLC ready shortly after release but the one time they don't is also the one time where any content would be appreciated

>>146274148
Shut up Atilla, you're dead

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>>146273870
>charlemagne was really fucking good
Yes


"Europe was broken
Led astray by false prophets, and torn apart by the petty whims of it's myriad kings.

The people were trapped under the yoke of war injustice and ignorance

But you deposed these tyrants.
With the might of your arms, you tore down thier thrones, and elevated true religion justice and peace in their place.

Now, with one voice, your people hail you, as the first of Europes true Caliphs"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8BcSGYfv9c

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>>146274513
DID I HEAR CALIPH

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Friendly reminder that the correct army composition for roman armies is 5 hastati, 5 principes, 3 triarii, 2 velites, and the remaining slots a mix of your choosing, either cavalry/missile/artillery support or socii troops.

>>146274148
The power of the updates was hidden from the many and given to the few. Those who held the golden news grew smug with every kind of bullying.

They were filled with Twitch, Arena and Kingdom. They distracted and delayed. They teased their content and laughed at those who datamined. They did all this and said announcements were Soon™.

And I saw in his hand a game with three releases, the first of which was NoContent.

And behold a pre-order, and he that bought it had DLC and he went forth to bait. The air was filled with despair and shitposting.

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I like the chaos army with its focus on elite troops but I'm not a big fan of the horde playstyle.

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>>146274269
so is the entire warham fantasy universe

>>146274813
dumb frogposter

hello

>>146273581
What other combat mods?
There's one by KAM who's responsible for DeI's combat and the others are by nobodies

dose anyone use pikes in the warhammer universe

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Warhammer's utterly retarded lore demonstrates the kind of manchild audience it caters to. Weak-minded, frail, probably fat and scared of reality. Truly the present belongs to the pleb.

>>146275338
Nuln pikemen?
Estalia?

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>faggot has a full stack of samurai
>send 3 ninjas to do nothing but sabotage/assassinate
>he's stuck there for 12 turns while regathering troops

Money well spent, samurai cuck.

>>146275473
The AI just really likes to get creative with their recruiting, I wonder how hard it is for CA to make it so the AI will use more of their options.
It can't be THAT difficult to have them recruit more than two types of units.

>tfw waiting for Battlefield 1

>>146275473
>murdered the Takeda so hard that you pushed them from the mountains of Kai into Chukoku
>when you start in a province west of them
Well done lad.

>>146274075
Any mods that give human pilots to gyrocopters?

Any mods that give gunner or siege or halberd animations to orc models?

Is it possible to add a new race entirely to the game? Say, another random Orc faction you put in the campaign map as a horde?

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>>146275661

not this time shithead

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>>146275737
t. Radious

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>>146274075
Rollan!

>146275661
>Look mom i said it again

>>146275874
Shitious doesn't do any of those things, as far as I know.

>>146275661
no

Anyone tried this mod yet?

"Cataph_The Southern Realms (TEB)"

It adds the southern realms as fleshed out new factions, with new tech trees and units.

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>>146275737
>Any mods that give human pilots to gyrocopters?
Fuck off Radious
>Any mods that give gunner or siege or halberd animations to orc models?
Fuck off radious
>Is it possible to add a new race entirely to the game? Say, another random Orc faction you put in the campaign map as a horde?
There already is an Orc horde faction in the game, there are two mods for it on the workshop
Get skull takerz improved faction and faction unlocker orcs. You may not need faction unlocker orcs, so just read the descriptions.

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>>146275617

Could also be that faction's doomstack. Much like how Oda tends to get doomstacks filled with the exact same composition of units.

>>146275667

I circled up around him, took Echigo from Uesugi and then basically just let him expand west so that his armies would be too far west to be able to come back in time. Incited a revolt in Echizen so that he couldn't march back without being forced to walk through my land. (We weren't enemies at the time, that is.)

Realm divide hit, and I swallowed his lands. Dealt with Date, took over Kyoto and held everyone off, and won. I was surprised at how easy it is to win as Oda, I had only won previously as Date.

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>Beastmen still not added
GET TO FUCKING WORK CA SHITS!!
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

>>146276146
What are beastmen?

>>146276184
half man half beast

>>146275737
>>146276059
>le Shitious meme
Radious is garbage, but my Human Celestial Wizard needs a gyrocopter for his flying mount.

So, is there any mods that give human pilots to gyrocopters?

Are there any mods that give halberd and/or gun animations to Orcs so that Black Orc Shootaz and Stikkas can be possible.

>There already is an Orc horde faction in the game, there are two mods for it on the workshop
That's not what I asked. I wanted to know if its possible to add an entirely new faction to the game.

>>146276184
Scatological rapists with goat legs.

>Another day without stuff

So in my next playthrough, I'm thinking of doing a remove-nonhumans run which doesn't end until every human city is conquered, and every Dwarven and Norse city razed.

Problem is, Dwarves tend to snowball, and with AI money, will always have more units, so I'll need to send an elite team as one group in to purge them.

Thinking five stacks will be enough.

I'm thinking like this

9 Steam tanks to serve as frontline
Karl/General on Deathclaw/Griffon
2 Helstorms
2 Mortars
4 Demigryphs
2 Musketmen

I can maybe swap out some steamtanks for Greatswords.

>>146276437
Why not just 19 steam tanks?

>>146276184
Coprophilic furry rapists.

>>146276425
>expecting anything else from CA
The game is great but post launch pr has been complete shit

>>146276184
islamists

>>146276528
19 demi gryphs with halberds much more viable
that way auto resolve won't bug out

>>146276425
And steam sale is tomorrow so they won't release dlc until that finishes.

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>>146276128

>a fellow understander of tactics

m'lord

CA fucked up
They took too long to pull DLC out
Fuck this shit they are utterly retarded
I want DLC goddamit

I want bretonnia
I want kislev

JESUS FUCK CA WAKE UP AND GIVE ME DLC

>>146276437

Greatswords are really effective against Dwarves, since 90% of their shit is infantry and armoured, both of whom greatswords shit on.

I'd personally keep only one unit of musketmen to deal with Gyrocopters early on.

Steam Tanks annihilate everything, but are really expensive.

For five stacks of nine, you're looking at 90,000+ as the initial cost for hiring, then about 31000 a turn in upkeep. Your whole army will probably cost about 50,000 a turn. That's prohibitive, unless you've got a fully developed economic Empire

>>146276751
Ah, watch it get a patch + free weekend + DLC
Mark my words

>>146276706

Why Halberds?

Dwarves don't have anything Halberds are more effective against, do they? All their shit is Infantry?

>>146276762

>Bretonnia
>Kislev

Both of these factions are shit. I want dogs of war, so that any playthrough can become interesting.

Kinda interested in Border Princes though, Lot of potential there.

>>146276853
In 2017?

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In Shogun, is it better to use blacksmith for defense or offense?

>>146276528

Because I've seen a full dwarven empire run ten full stacks. 200 units.

One stack of steam tanks isn't going to stop that, And I can't afford five.

>>146277076
>>146276528

With steam tanks, should you charge them into combat, or try and use their cannons for as long as possible?

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Naval battles with shanties when?

>>146277037

Offense, defense is kinda shit in S2.

>>146276998
armour piercing

>>146277210

>that song

It makes me miss just sailing around in Assassin's Creed: Black Flag, just to listen to the shanties.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWS5dGSDOc

>>146277183

Depends, but normally, you should try and cannon for as long as possible. Steam tanks are really fucking fast for what they are, basically keeping pace with most heavy cav. They're really good at taking a shot, then kiting. They also never break, so you can literally have 20 steam tanks running round the map, kiting Dwarves. It's hilarious. It's also incredibly easy to snipe the enemy general.

I took out a 3 stack dwarf army once with a single stack of steamcannons, because I just kept kiting and kiting. Even once you run out of ammo, they're very effective in melee combat, wioth AoE attacks and terror.

>Lock them in combat
>rear charge with general on griffon
>unleash bloodcry
>watch anything with less than 60 leadership run away

>>146277389

Lances and Barding also armor pierce. They also have anti-infantry, which ignores armor.

Considering dwarves are a heavy missile race as well, that 30% missile resistance from a shield is nice.

>>146277426
shits i might need to get rogue for more of this

>goblin big boss has a talent to add +6 AP to its 120+ existing AP damage
is there a more shit waste of a point in a tree?

>>146277541
Most of the cav says anti infantry but dont actually have any anti infantry bonuses. I've read anti large and anti infantry doesnt ignore armor. Your probably right that lances would do better, but halberdiers look cooler imo

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dead

what is the best cav for greenskins?

>>146278842
savage orc boar boyz big uns

>>146278842

black boar boyz

>>146278842
Grail boyz

>>146278842

black orc arrer boars

>>146277037
>>146277219
Defense, always defense. Get those gold armor Ashigaru, put them in Yari wall and watch them murder everything.

You can then spend your money on expensive cav and bows if you feel like.

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Poor little sillykids.

What the fuck am I meant to do in an "even" fight when my reinforcements spawn on the literal other side of the map and his spawn pincering me? I can wipe out the reinforcements on entry but then I'm stuck with a full army in the middle finishing me off and my reinforcements still being half the map away.

>>146279779
do the classic ramsay teleport maneuver

>>146274513
>"The caliphate in the east is getting uppity and threatening you. They demand a tribute."
>Tell them to fuck off
>"They fuck off and never come back."
I liked playing Cordoba, but that was weird.

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Orcs shouldnt be able to ambush desu desu

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>dirty Date fuckers climbing the walls, trying to breach

You are dirty with mud on your knees and palms. Go back to your mountains, you apes. These are Oda lands.

>>146279965
That's because these two Orcs didn't have enough brutal cunning.

>desu desu
Suiseiseki?

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>>146279965

>>146279257
Another vote for defence here. Warrior monks in armour are an absolute war crime.

How can I actually get into fights with decent armies in Rome? It just levy shit wherever I go.

>>146280227
play dei

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>>146279897
It worked!

>>146277037
It depends on your army comp I suppose. I like to slap attack when playing Shimazu to make my katana sam even more killy, but >>146279257 and >>146280205 make good points, since that armour will help you out against the shit tons of arrows being thrown at you.

>>146280205 especially is good advice.

Does anyone else here adore playing with Dwarfs cause of the fireworks?

Ironbreakers and Irondrakes + Artillery makes the battle so satisfying.

>>146280786

Empire is better for fireworks.

Mass Helstorm is great. Once they hit silver experience, somewhat accurate too. Not that effective though, at least not without a solid infantry line.

>>146281618
Oh I love that as well, but I had a Giant slam into my Ironbreakers and the fucker was on fire in seconds. I really love he small fuckers even tho no grudges long campaign is a drain.

I just finished the Chaos Warriors long campaign with all tribes awakened the other day. Felt so empty on the inside so I switched Dwarfs again. They are so fun to play with.

>turn 89
>play dwarfs
>rounding up the Greenskins
>suddenly Chaos sacks my northern settlements
>Chaos bypassed humans, VC and Southern Princes just to come and sack me

The fuck?

>>146282094
chaos always goes for the player

I've finished all of the long campaigns.

Bretannia when?
High, Dark, Wood Elves when?

Opening up all human fractions for the player when?

>>146276245
>That's not what I asked. I wanted to know if its possible to add an entirely new faction to the game.
some what. their's already a mod out that added tomb kings but it's based off the VC module. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707514055&searchtext=

>>146277915

The real question is why you'd bother wasting an army slot on a big boss in the first place.

>>146282227
I see.
Still, a bit silly since even Kislev has still most of its holds.

>>146275272
>the others are by nobodies
so? you can at least try them before writing them off.

>>146282452

Largely because Kislev doesn't slouch on buying walls. Chaos will sniff out lightly garrisoned settlements.

>>146275272
here are some that aren't DeI or Radious
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700177199&searchtext=

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690400085&searchtext=

>>146282441
>insulting a big boss
WORDS THAT KILL

After turn 50 you do not have an excuse for allowing the varg to continue to have settlements

>>146283554
you forgot the smug anime picture

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>>146283701
I'll do you one better

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>>146282227
>>146282798
>play VH VC campaign
>go through stirland and wissenland, battle some with empire, make them sign a peace treaty after wrecking most of their shit
>go fuck up some bretonnian peasants for killing off mousillion
>build walls literally everywhere
>chaos actually goes and burns down all the northern factions first
>sit back in my undead bretonnia and watch Empire get demolished
>go in when they're on their last legs, capture the last few imperial cities and mop up remains of chaos hordes
a good day to be dead

>>146283554
On Legendary as Empire I had some real issues with both the Norse going after me, Vampires at Nuln, Bretannia raiding in fucking Ostermark being a cunt.

It really depends on the game, sometimes it goes your way, sometimes you get shafted from every side. I honestly like the pressure of it, especially with Empire and Dwarfs since being hard pressed is integral part of the feel for both fractions.

Then you get good units and kill all slowly, while some ask for peace, trade, alliance and eventually confed

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>>146283554
how else would i train my generals and agents?

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>tfw Advisor-san betrays you

>>146283909
>Bretannia raiding in fucking Ostermark being a cunt.
wanted to say, Bretannia raiding in the west and Ostermark being a cunt

>>146284224
Does he actually have a story or is he just in the opening cut scene?

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>Louen "Why is half my army already routing" Leoncour

>>146284357
In the chaos campaign he betrays you, and the bird turns into the Lord of Change

>>146283909
Yes. Sometimes getting an army smashed and a few cities razed is more fun than having a cakewalk. I like getting revenge, I'd play dwarves if their roster wasn't so boring.

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>>146282227
>playing Orcs
>chaos armies gets stuck in a stranglehold between me, dwarves, border princes, empire and VC

Also explains why that one northern tribe sailed around the entire world to land 4 stacks up my asshole in the southern badlands.

>>146278842

Matters what you're up against, really. Spider riders are great against anti armor infantry like greatswords, savage boar boyz are good utility, and chariots will punch straight through a dominant defensive line like chosen.

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>>146284394
>Manfred von who?

>>146284790

Bjornlings spawn on the south edge of the map during the last chaos wave, they aren't actually from the north end of the map.

>>146284224

He's an agent of Tzeentch sent to ensure Archaon does not succeed.

>>146284860
God I loved playing WAR. That gay pushback build for Swordmasters with leap was great on bridge and cliff fights.Pure meme.

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>>146285196
i miss that game
>tfw bullrushing the final tiers with your guild's 2 full raid groups before the enemy has time to react and mobilize

Also patch FUCKING WHEN
I WANT MY WOOD ELVES
FUCK

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>bjornling attacks my boyz while they're on ships next to the coast
>only option is to flee or autoresolve

>>146284224
He should have been the unique adviser to Chaos and everyone else gets flavor advisers and not by the same fucking voice actors. God damn CA needs some new ones.

>>146284550
On Legendary with Dwarfs I had such a hard time. Then longbeards stepped it and the meatgrinder with extra leadership helped me quite a bit.

After Ironbreakers, it was a cakewalk, but I still played it till the end since I really wanted to return EVERY SINGLE GRUDGE, not because of the quest thing, but because I mentally transformed into a Warhammer dwarf.

Fuck them all.

>>146285386
The game came out a couple of weeks ago anon

we're working on it ;^}

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ELECTOR COUNTS!

ASSEMBLE!

>>146285554
>no cowardly and fakely flattening goblin advisor that has to deal with orc stupidity for orcs
>no grumbling longbeard advisor for dwarfs
>no high and mighty but supportive celestial wizard advisor for the Empire
>no clingy vampire-chan advisor for Vampire Counts
it hurts to live

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>>146285886

>order new pc
>wait for it to be built and delivered
>install warhammer total war
>crash on launch
>make sure drivers are up to date just in case
>start in offline
>verify cash
>still not working

well this is annoying

>>146285565

Playing dwarves in co-op right now and it's so enjoyable playing them during a siege.

>Filthy urki in your dwarfhold.
>Advanced on the walls.
>Shred them and the walls they're standing on with mountains of artillery fire.
>Cleanse the breach with fire and blasting charges.
>Disgusting greenskin filth move away from the gate to plug the hole just add the slayers batter it down.
>Then the slayers work begins in earnest.

Half chub the whole time desu.

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>>146285386
Still have it.

Also, when should we expect a patch? I'd really like some elves to play with.

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>>146285948
I want a proper orc advisor.
>wez is da orcs, and deys not da orcs
>dat dere ends dis zogging eksplanashun

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Does anyone else like marching to the quest locations even if they have the money to teleport? It just feels more like an adventure.

>>146286549
For all but Chaos, yes.

>get to turn 100 as orcs
>all the free armies make every battle so heavily in your favor you could autoresolve everything forever
not so much fun anymore desu

>>146286083
I CAN HEAR IT

>>146286549
I would if other factions would give me military access for less than the cost of the teleport.

>>146286817
iktf

It's kinda similar to VC if you get some good diplomacy going.

Chaos is good only if you wake all the tribes for more fun in the north.

Empire and Dwarf campaigns are only fun ones for me.

When Iceland and Hungary win today, then we'll get the patch tomorrow!

>>146286930
>Caring about military access

Just walk right across their shit. Gives like -10 penalty at most.

>>146287146
Half the time on VH they get super butthurt and declare war or cancel our trade if we have any.

>>146287146
I got like -40 penalty with stirland after marching through their land to purge some vampires because the fucks refused all my offers for military access

>Play Empire
>Vampire Counts declare war on me in the first three turns
>Literally bulldoze a straight line across Stirland to get to Grunburg
>they arrive and take it
>crush them next turn

Why are Vampire Counts so strong early game for the AI? In-game, the only real threat they seem to have are wolves and black knights.

Also, how the fuck do they get armies and garrisons so fast? They took Grunburg and had a full garrison the very next turn. And more than once, I've seen them lose a battle or win it incredibly closely (down to only having a few units left), then have a full stack of 20 units the next turn

>>146287738
They can insta raise army, especially near a large battle spot.

>>146287738

What is it about Grunburg?

>Orcs want it
>Savage orcs want it
>Vampires want it

Also, yeah. Vamps can be really fucking dumb, declaring war on you when you're a whole province away.

>Raiding stance makes you immune to attrition

Holy shit, this is how you're supposed to level Norsca, isn't it?

>>146287738

They can buy units instantly in a region. In a fresh region this is limited to a few skeletons and zombies, but if there's been a particularly bloody battle in the area you can definitely end up having a high tier vampire army materialize out of thin air.

>there are people in this general right now who didn't realize there was a teleport function in the Quest Battle Menu the moment they got their first one

How?

>>146287851

Oh, that explains a lot.

With retard AI economy, being able to skip the normal army raising process seems kind of overpowered.

>>146287851
>>146288138

That's annoying.

I normally hold off on Vampire Counts until I can field Steam Tanks nowadays.

Seven or so tanks can take on two whole stacks.

>>146286195
I love that the general sarcasm level on 4chan means you have to explicitly say
>wait for it to be built and delivered
to preempt smartass replies.

>>146288195
It's kinda OP for the player as well. I would raise armies with tons of low tier stuff, pick fights regardless of whether I could win or not, then raise good shit from the battle casualties. All I had to do was keep a cash reserve to pay for raising, and that isn't hard if you stick a few agents around the capital to make more money.

>>146288195

Economy isn't really a limitation to raising dead, it's already cheaper than recruiting if I recall.

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Struggling so much on early game Legendary Dwarves I've resorted to sitting in the corner and whittling down incoming armies with half a stack of Quarrellers, I can't deal with Orc cavalry at all

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>>146288178

>there are people in this general right now

>>146285554
I was gutted they didn't have a Goblin advisor for Greenskins at least.

>>146288537
>Corner camping

It's a legitimate tactic, don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

>>146287738
>wolves
>a threat
the only thing they can do without dying is chase routing units, which they admittedly great at

How do you counter giants with VC?

>>146288891
send 2 units of zombies/skeletons at it, it'll be busy for the rest of the battle

>>146288727
Even the orcs honor the made up line of the battlefield instead of flanking outside the map

>>146288887
They're pretty good if you have the tech buffs and red skill for them. Even better if the general has the "Creatures of the night" buff.

>>146288178
Dunno, there are literally only two buttons and some people are too lazy to hover over both (or at least the one that doesn't look like 'confirm') to find out what it does.
On the other side, it's exactly those people that deserve to march through all the badlands for the Mannfred quest battles.

>>146288537

When you can, sneak an army north to take mount gunbad. Recruiting artillery at rank 6 is game changing.

>>146288965
sums up VC battleplans versus anything
>is it dangerous?
>swamp it in zombies and worry about it later

So whats it like being in a chaos warrior warband? Do they have a strong sense of comradery?

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HAHAHAHAHA

TRAPPED LIKE RATS!

>>146289501

Matters on the warband. If it's tzeentchian or undivided there will be treachery throughout. Followers of khorne can be honorable, but you'll always need to watch for the berserkers. Nurglites and followers of Slaanesh are very united within their factions, though.

>>146288887

Wolves in both Chaos and Vampire armies routinely get the highest kill counts.

I've seen them take on mid-tier infantry like halberdiers solo and win.

>>146289868

He's talking about goblin wolf riders.

>>146289868
halberdiers are low tier infantry at a mid tier price. CA made them secretly attack really slowly

>>146289937

Why would he be talking about goblin wolf riders when I was talking about Vampire Counts?

>>146289951

Even so, a hyper fast skirmish unit with two-thirds the numbers shouldn't be able to basically solo them.

>>146289868
It might be the fact that i played on very hard, but the dogs were useless for me. They would run away as fast as trolls, and generally be useless at anything but chasing down marauder horsemen.

>>146289951

They also melee at a high enough range to attack over each other. Don't thin then out and they'll perform better.

>autoresolve everything in Warhammer
>play MoS, a 60/40 autoresolve phyrric victories me so hard, the entire army except for the general is wiped out.

Good thing the 1 province minor clans in extended Japan are pretty passive or their stacks would have fucked everything up.

>>146289734
those goblins be channeling the spirit of Ramsay

>>146286225
got my collector's edition somewhere..
Comics a best
also the art, everyone doing anything related to warhammer fantasy seems to use the art from WAR
also the miniature is nice

>>146289067
That's pretty much how they played on the tabletop too, zombie tarpits for anything killy, everything else gets stomped by Blood Knights or monsters.

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So this is the power of the End Times...

>>146287130
FUCK YOU

>>146286225
>>146290571

>when they announced the level 10 f2p
>we were a group of people from /v/ grouping together
>all make orcs
>all run to the pvp area
>WAAAAAGH

Some of the most fun times I've had in an MMO.

>>146290865

>actually managing to pull them into a straight fight.

Meanwhile, I spent twenty turns chasing Kholek around with Karl Franz and 19 Demigryphs.

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>play a lot of shogun 2
>enjoy it
>go and try to play attila
>get put off by how little personality the game has

Not to mention, why the fuck is the game so fucking ugly? Holy shit, it looks so bad compared to Shogun 2.

>It's a "Marienburg attacks with three stacks but one of the reinforcing armies comes behind your army" episode

>>146290865
I had that 3 of their armies against two of my Mod Bretonnia armies with almost all of my army being Grail Knights. What an epic battle.

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>seige battle
> 600 barbarian axes, swordsmen archers vs 6000 militia hoplites and elite archers

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>>146291361

>>146288537
is it possible to play dwarfs without half stacks of quarrellers?

how do you deal with cavalry as dwarfs?

>>146290571
>That comic
So good. That Empire battle scene was top tier.

>>146291578
What you see is my current tactic for it, sit back, Quarreller the cavalry on approach and hope it breaks so I can shoot another pack

>>146291578
all their shield infantry has defense against charge

>>146291679
I don't see it.

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>you're a Bretonnian noble at the Grant Tournament
>this guy slaps your steed's ass
what do you do?

>>146291116

To be fair, I'd run from that shit too.

I've seen Demigryphs rout basic melee units within 10 seconds.

Got ambushed by two stacks, and manage to shatter the first while the second one was still a few hundred metres away, then wheeled around and did the same.

In testing, Demigryphs will route Greatswords in 43 seconds.

>>146291752
Win the tournament for Karl and propose to Franz afterwards

>>146285724
IT'S BEEN A MONTH FFS

>>146291329
>Attila
>little personality
>compared to copy paste units 2: electric boogaloo

>>146291679 Just wondering if there's something better. I'm usually in a square formation, but the orcs keep bringing 6+ cav and they break through my back line and get my grudge throwers locked in melee.

>>146291329
>Holy shit, it looks so bad compared to Shogun 2.
>this meme

it will only look worse if you can only run it on minimum, it looks far better than gooks dipped in vaseline, it also has far more detail in both field and settlement battles and a far better LOD

>>146292481

I'm running both games on Ultra and Shogun 2 looks objectively much better.

>far more detail in both field and settlement battles

And you talk of memes.

>>146292648
You're objectively wrong.

>>146292758

You're objectively wrong.

>>146292862
>no u

Does anyone else feel the AI is to opportunistic and not aggressive enough? Sure as shit they will drag their dicks through Vampire Corrupted glass to attack the one unwalled settlement, or declare war when my forces are bogged down across my empire, but they can't be fucked to fight the 20 stack raiding their lands and wiping out their settlements, instead fuck off to who knows where or just sit inside their city.

I've also noticed when their faction capital is threatened, Dwarves especially, they won't beeline straight to defend it, instead they'll dick around doing dumb stuff.

And has ANYONE actually fought a real siege battle? I never ONCE have gotten to be a defender in my cities, the AI will siege for a few turns, and then fuck off for no reason to raid or I'll bring a relief force around. I'd like for ONCE to be able to use my massively modernized Empire army to hold off an attacking force.

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>>146292114

Because Attila was the pinnacle of unit diversity, right?

>KAM SIT SHARE MY FIRE
>FO DE TRIEB

>>146292648
>And you talk of memes.
how is it a meme? battle maps in shogun have nothing, its just a hill and some trees, in Attila there are farms, buildings scattered around the field, a lot of details, shit like pyramids if you are fighting near them. Look at tier4 Constantinople in Attila and compare it to Kyoto in Shogun

>Shogun 2 looks objectively much better.
Simply not true

>>146292969
In ~200 hours I had a SINGLE FUCKING DEFENSIVE SIEGE.
Patch when?

>>146293049
Compared to shogun 2? Yes.

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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN

>>146292969
I've yet to play a single Siege defense after 100 hours of play on Empire or Dwarves, they just sit there permanently.

>>146292969
>but they can't be fucked to fight the 20 stack raiding their lands and wiping out their settlements

Exactly what happened in my Orc game when i was wiping out Bretonnia. According to the diplomacy screen they were supposed to be a fair bit stronger than me, yet i never saw a single stack while i raided and razed their lands.

Guess they were all busy in the north or something.

>>146293049
far far more diversity than shogun 2, s2 essentially has 1 faction

in Attila each culture group has a unit roster vastly different from other culture groups, and the EoS has a lot of variety even within one culture group

>Play VC
>Fight chaos, hellcannons destroy Grave guard, killing 20 plus units a hit
>Play chaos
>Get Hellcannons
>Shoot at Chaos mauraders
>1 kill a hit.
fuck off.

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>just got age of charlemagne
>start a new game
>raiding charlemagne's empire
>take two settlements
>5 turns of more raiding and I haven't seen a single enemy army

Is my game bugged?

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>No DLC
>No patch
>No announcements
>All we get is bullshit 1vs1 and bullshit intro videos

FUCK YOU CA YOU SHITS WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

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>>146293373

>raiding charlemagne's empire

>>146274594

This

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>Vampire Counts

>>146292969
Only way to get a siege battle is to have T3 walls to give you 15 turns without attrition and then sit and wait until they make 10 towers and 3 rams
heaps of fun dumpstering units with towers though

>>146293532
Me and the AI are balls deep inside Charles' empire and he's not doing shit to stop me.

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>>146274836

Happy now?

>>146293373
>be mercia
>take over the isles
>head south
>charles won't give me military access
>bugger his ass instead
I took half his kingdom and never saw an army
guess he was further south playing with the Lombards.

>>146291578

Blasting charges, irondrake/slayer flank, soften them with cannons / organ guns on the approach.

>>146293312
Legendary bot artillery is pretty bullshit.

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>people are talking about that attila looks better than shogun
>despite the fact that shogun 2 has almost one third more graphical options
>all of which change how the game looks rather radically
>the fact that shogun 2 has DX11 while Attila still runs on DX9 isn't obvious enough of a big step in Shogun's direction

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>>146293727
Did you spend 4 hours on that?

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>>146292648
post a screen. this is from the 1212 attila mod on ultra

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>>146293889
>Attila still runs on DX9
So you're resorting to outright lying now?

>>146294136

It is though. Look it up. Rome 2 was running on DX9 as well. Which is why it looks like a muddy mess.

>>146293104
F U C K I N G

H
O
V
E
L

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>still no patch

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Attila looks pretty comfy sometimes despite all the pillaging and razing

So uh, are Steam tanks meant to be as strong as they are.

Because I just slaughtered about 4000 orcs with 20.

>>146294114

>posts a picture from a mod
>that has custom-made higher rez textures

You're not helping anybody's case.

>>146294335

With a red spec'd general, they can be pretty overwhelming.

15% Ward Save adds up over 19 units, and with the artillery damage buff, they can snipe generals before they even get close.

>>146294214
>It is though. Look it up.
Not finding shit son. Provide a source, or continue lying through your teeth I guess.

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Why couldn't they add night battles into Warham? The mechanic is still there, the lightning strike thing works the same way, the only thing they had to do is to change the lights and add a minor fatigue/morale penalty

>>146292969
I spent 20+ turns chasing around 2 Varg and a Skaeling army through my lands as they raided shit whenever I had to leave for a moment. Finally caught all three inside the pass that splits the north and south of the map with 3 armies and shagged them rotten.

Take that faggots.

>>146294629
they'll be back in 3 turns
sorry, anon

>>146294768
Managed to take out Chaos so I'll at least be able to focus on that for a while.

What's the point of Siege weaponry in Warhammer when 95% of the time it's faster to use a large unit or just a basic unit to break a gate?

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

>>146294480
vampire count always night battles when attacking

would hav ebeen a nice touch

>>146295140
The siege stuff gets shot instead of your units, which is a good thing given how lethal the towers are

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>this night apparently looks better than

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>>146295230
yep, they could have reversed it with the VC where if they are forced to defend from a regular battle they take penalties

but even if they didnt want to add any penalties out of balance considerations, they could have still kept night battles as a purely visual thing, I wish seasons were a thing in warham too

>>146295336

don't the units inside drop too?

>CA is a UK company
>If Brexit happens all DLC and expansions for warhammer will be cancelled
you have been warned

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>>146295457

this night

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If 6 we wont get a patch until 2017

>>146295594
Brexit will also lead to a ban of all Warhammer and Total War outside of the UK.

>>146295594
Fuck off Cameron.

>>146295581
Only if the seige equipment is destroyed, although I'll have to check whether rams work that way or not since I've never opted for them over siege towers

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>>146294341
Fine.

Unmodded Attila on ultra.

>>146295728
>>146295594
LOL

Brexit would ruin the euro and UK economy

they'll be begging to take my superior US shekels for their shitty products

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>>146295772

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I NEED MORE WARHAMMER AAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>146295772
poor choice of a background, instead of a flat boring desert you could have picked Constantinople or Ctesiphon, the weeb would then be confonted with the reality that s2 is an ugly game with no settlements whatsoever

a word of advice anon, its pointless to argue with s2 autists, they are even worse than med2 autists

>>146295645
The other one has worse weather and is just a bad screenshot

>>146296008
Additional secondary lord DLC soon :^)

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING Remember, vote to leave the Elf Union

>>146295847
The Euro and the pound are worth more than your monopoly money, if it werent for the weaker EU countries inflating the currency of the strongest EU countries americans couldnt even afford buying products from them anymore.

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>>146295772
>>146295954

Comparing those with this picture I took earlier, I think I know the reason why a lot of people think Shogun looks better.

Shogun has a lot more distinct colors, making it easier to make out who's who and what's going on. It's more cartoony that way, and Attila captures a lot more realism at the cost of a lack of colors in most units Is it good, is it bad - I don't know, nor care. All I can do is try to understand.

Is it worth becoming a filthy Christian in Master of Strategy? playing as Chosokabe and I'm thinking of getting a nanban port but I don't know what new stuff I'll be getting down the line.

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>attempting crooked fang goblin only run with faction unlocker mod
>dorfs are near immune to everything i have

just wait till i get my fucking loons

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>>146296291
I think you have a point there, but in that case the Shogun2 autists should claim that it has better art direction, not better graphics

either way I prefer Attila's look, it can still be pretty colourful depending on the terrain, units, weather and season. Pic unrelated, I am just posting this screen because I like it

>>146296203
>an economy is only measured by the strength of its currency
Read a book nigger.

>>146288572
It would have been cool if it was like in rome where there was a different adviser for different matters. Like an orc warboss tells you about military stuff, the goblin tells you about diplomacy and economy. Then when we get naval battles Kaptin Bluddflagg is your adviser.

>>146297009
But that's like 3 (THREE) different advisor models per race! and 3 VAs to voice them! Think of the all the money that would be wasted when we can just stick one old dude in every campaign!

>>146297009

goblins care about diplomacy even less than orcs

>>146296491
What's the endgame here, stacks of 9 arachnaroks and 10 doom divers?

>>146297286
>Rome 2 budget wasted on hiring Mark fucking Strong

>>146297286
How the fuck was that guy able to become an advisor to Grimgor Ironhide? A fucking human being an advisor to a warboss? Has this ever happened before in the Warhammer lore or am I getting triggered over nothing?

>still no patch
>still no DLC
What the fuck is taking CA so long

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>>146284224
this shit legit scared me for a minute when it first happened.

Like theres no prelude or anything, your screen just goes black like you're crashing and he walks up out of the darkness.

Is TW:W optimized or is it that the units are small as fuck?

>>146297383
That's the whole point. He'd advise you to be the biggest backstabbing cheekiest of cunts in the warhammer universe.

>>146297542
They're all still on holiday.

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How do you pick your general units in Attila? Do you pick them by how good you know the unit is, how cool you think the unit is - or what fits best with history?

>>146296967
I never said that.

>>146297523
It doesn't matter what the answer is, you're getting triggered over nothing.

>>146297523

humans, mostly norse, have been known to mingle with orcs on very rare occasions

not black orcs though, who don't even like mixing with other greens. so yeah, it's bullshit

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>>146297697

>Rome 2 comes out
>Absolute shit, patches daily

>TW:W comes out
>Smooth with flaws, not one single patch

FUCK YOU CA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>146297672
A bit of both

>>146297580
>Tzeentch crashing your game so you cant win
Just as planned

>>146297697
Are they fucking school teachers? The should be growing their product and taking my money.

>>146297427

i was gonna go for a mounted hero based army, trying to make use of magic and all the specialized gobbo units

>>146297878
Warhammer doesn't need patches as badly as the shitshow Rome 2 was on launch.

>playing shogun 2
>sister walks in
>are you playing civilization?
>no
>week later playing medieval 2
>are you paying civilization?
>yes
>what version?
>1
>why not play 5?

i'm so angry

>>146298428
have you tried not being autistic?

your sister is attempting to bond with your dumb ass by trying to strike up a conversation on a topic that interests you and probably had to look up what popular games are in a genre you like.

stop being a cunt and go talk to her, I lost my cousin at age 8 and would give up gaming if I could talk to her again you shit

>>146298428
>i'm so angry
hey at least she is showing interest and trying to strike a conversation you dumb autist, you should appreciate that instead of getting triggered

>>146298428
How old is your sister?

>>146298693

this much projecting

>>146298693
>I lost my cousin at age 8 and would give up gaming if I could talk to her again you shit

Look at this casual lmao

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so I haven't gotten a chaos campaign past 100 turns to see the advisor betray me

who takes over once he dies?

>>146298693
>have you tried not being autistic?
that's not an option

>>146298797
26

i've attempted to talk with her multiple times about the games that i play and every single fucking time. if i play anything other than overwatch she has no idea what the fuck it is.

why is every strategy game civilizations

>>146298967
Nobody

>forced march
>forced march
>forced march

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>>146298967

>>146299030
I figured she is 12 from what you said.

is she single?

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Alright, how do I win this fight, I'm fucked aren't I

>>146298967
Nobody.

>>146299186
yes and body positive with impossibly high standards

>>146299209
good ol hide in corner of map strat

>>146299209
>Big uns
Almost certainly.

>>146299286
Does she mind younger men?

>4 factions
>starve people from content
>I WANT DLC NOW! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!
Did CA finally achieve god tier jewery?

>>146279965
Don't orcs have some dumb lore thing about being so attuned to some magic stuffthat if they they believe something enough, it's true. Like painting things red makes them go faster and being well hidden behind tiny trees?

>>146299209
Sit in corner, have lord beat shit up in the front, engineer buff your rape machines, easy win.

>>146299209

your quarrelers are effective against everything but shield boyz

their archers suck

if not for the trolls you had a chance

>>146299546
Orks have a psychic gestalt that makes shit they believe in hard enough actually work. Like a box of scrap being a working gun or red actually being faster.
Not sure how it's explained for the orcs, but it certainly works for them too. See savage orcs and their body painting.

>>146296008
What's with all the Haruhi spam lately?
Is there a nostalgia wave for 2006?

>>146299209
the trolls kind of fuck you up if they don't route. try focus firing them before the melee starts to break them, which shouldn't be too hard.

try using the slope of a hill so your archers never stop firing.

>>146299416
sorry, men her age up to a limit of 6 months older only

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I like the desert jews mask. The chainmail totally looks fucking weird though.

>>146299546

orc lore is crazy, and in no games are they portrayed completely accurately, cause they'd be far too overpowered

they feel no pain. they don't fear death, or mourn their fallen, cause they believe that a dead orc just grows into a new one. the fact that orcs can even rout in TW:W make no sense

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>>146300049
>>146299560
>>146299556
>>146299546
>>146299395
>>146299380
Trolls routed before they made it to combat, everything else was engaged long enough in melee for the Quarrellers to give them the dick

>>146300434
They should rout only if the commander is killed

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>>146296701
Pic not related but I do miss how night time rain battles look with shogun

>>146298693
>Have you tried not being autistic?
>You should spend more time with your relatives because I lost one of mine, shitlord.

Nice going there, autismo

>>146300049
Its cool, I will just lie, whats her #?

What a retarded age limit tho.

>>146300549
Excellent.

>>146274075
>>OVERCASTING SPELLS

>>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT

>>GROUP ATTACK

Holy shit thank you, for this extremely important information contained nowhere in the game

Also has anyone else ever successfully loaded the ingame encyclopedia? It's literally never worked for me and I've been playing blind with only what the pop up tooltips tell me

>>146300556

i think black orcs and maybe big uns should rout, cause dying means losing his choppa and all his gubbins, starting out as a yoof again

boyz and savages should just fight to the death though

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>wait for battle timeout since reinforcements are bugged
>CLOSE DEFEAT
I don't think I can stand much more of this.

>>146300549

Literally how do people complain about Dwarves.

The same fight with tier 1 Empire soldiers would have ended in a bloody massacre.

>>146300556
Orcs aren't unbreakable in the lore or tabletop, Orcs will run if they think they're being beaten, not out of fear but out of a desire to survive to find a better fight.

Black Orcs are the only ones that will sometimes fight to the last Orc, and even then, only to prove how much better than other Orcs they are.

>>146300807
i had it load once

>>146300434
But Orcs and Orks run away all the time

No sorry Tactically retreat

>>146300807
It's very clunky and not very useful, like it has always been, but It has never failed to load.

>>146300549

>those quarreler kill counts

Really? I wish Crossbowmen didn't suck for the Empire.

>UI gives 0 indication of what overcasting a spell does
>sorta figure some of them out (like turning some into AOE spells)

how the fuck am I supposed to figure out if the risk and cost is worth the reward

fukkin CA fix your shit