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Why is Twin Princes such a shit boss for?

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>>146063431
You are shit.

>>146063238
i'll kill ur boipucci with my dicc

>>146063431
Too slow and predictable. Crack addict boypussy adds nothing to the fight. I bet the scrapped concept with the scythe and the shield was better.

>>146063630
>post ds2 poise level attacks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIYoJq2iDZ0

rest in fucking peace

>>146063630
>need bad fight using scaling sage
Crystal Sage as a club when

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8MxiLnhCns

sigh

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>>146063630
>run spam r1

Are there any invasions and auto-summons at SL60? Thinking of doing some gimmick piece of shit builds.
>tfw not so long ago I could farm 30 Concords in PVP
>tfw I can't even invade as a blue anymore

>>146064059
>another backstab compilation
are you impressed or something, because that shit aint hard to do

>>146064059
I'm glad it's over.jpg

>>146064059

>People actually defended this

Wew alright so I just finished DaS for the first time. Only thing is I was working on the DLC and Artorias when eventually I just said "alright maybe I'll kill gwyn instead" and did, but I didn't realise it instantly puts you in NG+. Is there any way to go back there straight away on the same save (as in not NG+ him because I'd probably get destroyed) or am I just fucked?
Thanks

>>146063630
>wait das2 great
>whip meme ass
>feel man poison lol

>>146064224
SL60 is Aldrich faithfull level, go get some dregs

>>146063630
>wait das2 great weapons
This is not untrue
shame the same cannot be said about the game

>>146064362
>some people actually say it's the best PvP

>>146064478
What about the Sentinels and Blades?
The game can't be truly dead.

>>146064059
man dark souls 1 sure had the best pvp in the game

>>146064384
Locked into NG+ m80, but if you managed NG, you'll do fine in +.
Especially early game is a breeze, it isnt until O&S that the difficulty picks up again

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>>146064059
>214 million souls for killing the host
fucking re-nuke the nipnops already

>>146064537
they've been broken since release for most people

i've gotten 3 summons throughout 300 hours of playtime

2 of those 3 were immediate disconnects

>>146064657
Oh for fuck's sake.
It worked for me before the patch.

>>146064562
better than 3

if you die to backstabs when there's no lag you're a scrub

>>146064485
It's better than DaS3 and BB though...

>miss bloodborne
>cant play it because of fucking GEM FARMING

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>>146063671
a-anon no, not in yorshka's tower... s-so lewd...

>>146064712
welcome to the permanent ghost server lad

enjoy your stay, you cannot escape

Raw ASS or Fire Uchi for an aspiring sorcerer?

>>146064740
Online play has always lag m8.

>>146064821
Depends, do you want to use miracles?
If yes; Raw ASS
if no: Raw Longsword

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>>146064814
T-Thanks From

>>146063630
>rolling roll always enough
As a UGS user, this hurts me.

>>146064920
Why the longsword? I can always respec and get rid of extra Faith points.

>>146064814
Will making a new account let me get in on the action?

>>146065061
it should, yeah

>>146065101
>my main account is in a ghost server
why
what the fuck were they thinking
why the fuck are they separate anyways

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>>146064814
does the family sharing steam shit really work?
w-will i get banned?

What would you think of a fighting game that can only be played on two computers (consoles, whatever) and shows different information for each player?
I think it could add a layer of depth.

>>146065235
>shows different information for each player?
that's extremely ambiguous

>>146065161
japan not good at computer, prease undastandu

>>146065198
i haven't done it, got my concords the old fashioned way (only took like 5 hours killing knights, may be the world fucking record)

and no it won't get you banned as of yet, i wouldn't put it past From to fuck with that though

>>146065369
>(only took like 5 hours killing knights, may be the world fucking record)
Jesus Christ From get your shit together

how do i go about a pure faith lightning spear chucker build? do i start as cleric? the start seems so underwhelming and even getting the first lightning spear miracle it does crap for damage, even point blank. not to mention i don't have the vig to withstand perseverance hits

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It possible to unpatch the game? If I delete the downloaded patch data on PS4 will my saves still be alright as they're separate or no? Want to exploit invincible phantoms

>>146065198
I heard that they changed something and your accounts can get stuck as family share accounts or something like that. I'm yet to hear of anyone getting banned though.

>>146065421
some people have claimed to have taken around 15 hours of knight farming

just be sure to have all item find gear and reload the game after every few unsuccessful runs

may be placebo, but i stand by it because it worked for me

>>146065537
Fuck it
I don't give enough of a shit to bother with it
I just wanted to invade as a blue ;_;

>>146065537
OR:
you can go to NG+15, like I am

>>146065683
let me guess, in NG+15 Hodrick can kill you before he even invades

>>146065757
You die as soon as you step foot in the settlement

>>146065683
i can't decide what would be more tedious, playing through this shit game that many times or grinding like it's a fucking MMO

i think i may just go play a better game until the next big patch honestly

>>146065840
>expecting from to patch anything
Just go to +15, it will take less time/you'll get the better rings/you can hope you get dankmoon invasions to speed up the process

>>146065840
>Play a better game
But what can possibly be better than DARK SOULS 3?

how good is the parry dagger?

>>146066219
Dark Souls :3

>>146066240
It's absolute fucking garbage
You're better off using a small shield or even memestus

>>146064224
My main invader is sl 55 and I get chain summoned for aldrichs and occasional darkmoon summons

Would anyone be willing to help me out with the anor londo stage in DS3 on the PC? just at the bonfire after beating Pontiff and don't know what to do next

Is there any way to punish people who are being passive assholes in SL120 pontiff duels? The kind of people who never really attack you, just strafing around pointlessly waiting for you to attack so they can counterattack in some way? Who refuse to ever attack first even if you're just walking around pointlessly for 5 minutes?

Also what do about washing pole running R1 and weapon skill for roll catching shenanigans?

>>146064796
don't go into chalices alone, coop them as much as you can
chalice coop is cool, especially root chalice coop.

>>146066432
what build

Haven't played for a month, auto-summon covenants still broken?

I could get it working with family share but I can't be bothered with that anymore.

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>>146066528
who else is making a Pope for this event? you kniggas better protect your Pontifex Maximus

i wanted an SL60 character anyways to complete my invasion range roster so i'll probably respec it after, but at least the name is still cool

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>>146066447
make yourself a pyromancer, use fire surge to kite them
god it makes them mad because they will continue to lose health as long as they are passive
kiting in general is a good way of killing passive players so as long as you have quick ranged options you can play it completely safe

>>146066515
None of them work. Aldrich is broken too now

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZcpbGkz5tU

>>146067367
>Ring****** Syv

>>146064059
>This is somehow worse than DaS3

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>>146066495
+8 gear

Whats the pyromancy softcap?

>>146066787
I'll make an invader a pope and a defender then see what we need the most

>>146066453

Yeah but i never see signs and farming is still stupid impossible, because the summons popping up is unreliable

>>146067026

Fair enough, might try using an offhand crossbow then. Is the avelyn actually good for hitting people who are moving around or should I just use something like an arbalest?

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>>146067521
it's in the op
why do you fucking niggers never read the OP
it's there for a reason
because there's 20 of you cunts each fucking day

>>146067582
godspeed friend

i don't have the patience for that

>go to sl120
>fight nothing but 142 faggots
everyone knows that if you're not giving 1808 souls on death you're not getting summoned again, faggot

>>146067703
>>146067521
The worst part is that they don't even need the OP. You can go on mugenmonkey and see how much power you flame gets point-for-point by just wiggling the numbers around.

>>146067723
takes an hour total to make all three, probably even just 45 min

>>146067614
nah, avelyn is for chug punishes
arbalest with explosive/heavy bolts or knight's crossbow with lighting ones, both are good
also bombs and throwing knives
don't forget to constantly do faggy gestures and play passive as well to make them mad

>>146067703
is there a spreadsheet version of this?

>>146067869
>trusting mugenmonkey numbers
that's a bad idea anon it has ton of bugs
some casting tools don't even have numbers that go up, so I think that number is just the damage when you strike, not the spell buff

>just got the game
>like level 15
>see a purple summon sign before dog boss
>his gear looks pretty good, i bet he can fuck this boss up
>summon this purple dude
>he drops a sack of stuff and keeps gesturing to it
>pick it up
>99x soul consumables that give me like 50,000 souls every time I use one
>delete my save

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>>146067613
>bloodborne
>signs
just ring your bell and someone will pop up via SRRC

>>146068036
webm or it didn't happen

>>146068036
just don't use them if you don't want to, you won't get banned for this

How is this?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45456

>>146067614
Offhand crossbows destroy tradefishers (not that it's a great way to play in the first place). The Avelyn is good but firing three bolts takes longer, which means you'll have to reload later, which means you'll possibly miss a chance to reload it if your opponent isn't stuned by the third bolt, causing you to end up passing up an opportunity to shoot later on due to your bow being unloaded.

If you're the sort of person who only takes guaranteed shots in the first place this is fine, as you'll have as much time as any other crossbow if you land the last bolt. In general, it just depends on personal preference. Worry about the moveset more than the output.

>>146067927

Will do, thanks.

How's the knight's crossbow anyways? Do the lightning bolts have AoE at all? Do you need high faith to make it worth?

>>146068204
>70.63%
CTRL+W

>>146064796
You know you can get by just using the DLC gems, right? You can get them quickly and don't need to go chalice-diving.

>>146067989
Really? I know I've found a couple numbers to be off by 1, and the bloodring doesn't show the absorption penalty, but other than that I've never had issue. I guess I'll go check and see if it's the strike damage later.

So does anyone want to help me with Anor Londor then in DS3? stuck desu

>>146067939
why would you need that

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>>146067425

>>146067810
Ohhh what is this? Do souls gained change with soul level?

>>146067896
but then i have to play the game more

>>146068490
Yep. Soul Level 120 RSS summoned phantoms drop 1808 souls.

>>146068204
less vit, lighter armor, more vig

that generally will make you live longer. You don't need the prisoners chain since you can carry all of your weaponry without the vit it adds. 27 endurance is also kinda low. I'd also suggest having either a means of parrying or blocking.

>>146068204
>https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45456
21 vit? Is the drakeblood set necessary?

Does grabityRate not work anymore?

>>146068283
Faith doesn't affect the damage of knight's crossbow or lightning bolts. It has AoE if you're in water.

Funnily enough if you use both together you get double the effectiveness from lightning clutch ring.

>>146068204
>>146068619
Oh, and you also need a sages ring if you aren't leveling dex

>>146064763
a late (you). i support you anon!!!

>>146068419
summoning will only make it harder, you'll get constantly invaded by aldrich faithful covenant

>>146065198
Family share doesn't work for me anymore. Did that and now those characters are stuck in the alt account

>>146068661
Oh, only 16. Still...

>>146068050

Sorry, its late here, im tired
My point is shit doesnt come my way, regardless. Probably the fact im australian

>can't jump off the ledge near Eygon without enough Vigor

what bullshit

>>146068779
It does work, you just can't transfer saves between family shares.

>>146068325
neither staves nor chimes seem to have numbers that go up if you change the int/faith

pyro flame however has more bashing damage when you level int & faith and that number goes up, so I think it's fair to say it's the bashing damage

>>146068321

get by, yeah. But about 4/10 of the time i get outdamaged something massive because they farmed gems

How dark spells scale in DaS3? Is it like in DaS2, with int or fai, whichever is lower, or like DaS1, simply with catalyst magic adjustment (and, i assume, without hidden str scaling bullshit).

>>146068204
This is probably an improvement, I'd be tempted to go for 5 slots though.

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45462

>>146067425
HOLY SHIT

>>146069029
Like dark 2, but they suck ass this time. They're only useful if a boss has high magic or fire resist, but a low-ish dark resist

>>146068732

Cool, good to know, although from what I understand the clutch rings are shit in PvP, they don't really work as described when fighting other players. I've also read the KCB has the fastest reload speed in the game. So, probably gonna go with that + lightning bolts for kiting.

What is your Mage attire of choice?

>>146064562
Is there another pvp in the game?

>>146068217
>deal with fuckery at post pontiff pvp summons
>fucking ok then
>start keeping loaded avelyn off hand in case of faggots
>notice people keep their bullshit to a minimum so they don't have to deal with it

Lol fucking poons

>>146068661
muh fashion

>>146068948
Can't have your cake and eat it too. DLC gems should be plenty for random invasions. In FCs though, people are pretty much always going to have the best shit.

The easiest way to do it is just get a full set of DLC gems. Then when you get bored, go farm "one" chalice gem to replace one of your DLC gems, then just go back to playing. When You get bored again, Do it for your next gem slot and so on. Eventually, you'll have a full set of chalice gems without burning yourself out.

Alternatively, host gemless FCs.

>>146068795
>sewer key costs 1500 after picking up morticians ashes

You did this to yourself anon

>>146067475
>that is somehow better than DaS3

>>146068217

Yeah, think I'm just gonna stick with the knight's crossbow offhand since it does good damage and reloads quick as fuck.

>>146069390
i didn't want to go that way yet

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>trying to get kalameet's tail
Fuck this shit...

Spent like 20 minutes on the last fight and he only did a handful of those flying attacks, of which only one ended up with the tail smash. The others were the turn around fire shit and the tail swipe.

I even fully upgraded a black knight halberd for this purpose and I can't even get near his tail Each time he does either the calamity attack or the non-rotating fire attack, I can't run to his tail fast enough and despite the range on this halberd, my attacks still end up missing.

I have no idea how I managed to do this on my previous character.

>>146069484
But it's the safest way to get to the area that you are jumping down too...

Could anyone be so kind to drop me a havel's ring +0, Prisoner's chain and Pontiff's left eye? PC
I'll drop my sign down at High Wall, pass dsg

>>146069932
>havel's ring +0
why specifically +0

you know the matchmaking is a meme right?

Yesterday I decided to get the Drakesword in DS1 for the first time. (In NG+5, it's just for completion I guess.) In German its description is kinda weird.

The thing is, the German language doesn't differentiate between dragon and drake, it only has the word "Drache", so the Drakesword in German is called "Gerades Drachenschwert" (straight dragon sword, but they probably mean dragon straight sword, the German translation is pretty bad at times.)
Now obviously the description needs to be adjusted to that fact. It goes something like "A sword made from the tail of a dragon who has gone hollow." Now what the fuck do I make of this? Is it maybe more faithful to the nip original, or did they just pull that out of their asshole?

>>146069927
i didn't want to backtrack

i've never died from that stupid fall before so i figured it was a set percent of damage

>>146069980
They're the last few rings I need to 100% this game

>>146069923
Easiest way to get it is when he sits up to breath fire, roll under him.

>>146070105
Alright, I'll try that. I've been trying to run from his right and I've only made it like once.

>>146069984
well there are nice friendly dragons/drakes

then there are the asshole ones that shit fire at you and be shitty for no reason

maybe they've gone crazy

>>146069332

Yeah...i know
I just wish gem farming wasent a thing, or it was easier or something
Because god damn its the only thing i hate about that damn game
Gems just need to be able to be combined with other similar gems to increase power or some shit

>>146070301
Yeah, but that would mean all drakes are just hollowed dragons.

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>>146067425

>>146070395
I agree. I think the game would have been better off without gems and if they had taken out like half of the chalices.

>>146070167
And take off your armor, you dunce. Use dwgr, it also extends rolls.
>>146070485
>giant dad
>wearing ek
Oh my

Anyone else legitimately enjoy the new "poise" mechanic?

God fucking damn I hated poise.

>>146070301
Which ones are friendly? Only the everlasting doesn't try to kill you.
>>146069984
Dragons existed before souls, it doesn't make sense for them to go hollow since they're not pygmy based life

>>146069332
the expression is eat your cake and have it too.

you're supposed to eat cake, which makes "you can't have your cake and eat it too" fucking stupid. the thing is that people want to eat their cake but still have it afterwards, which they can't because it's been eaten. hence the term "you can't eat your cake and have it too"

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45467

Rate

>>146070030
Always strip down
I couldn't make it the first time either until I took all my armor off.

>>146070831
No, because it ruins most of the weapon classes, and makes light and quick weapons OP.

>>146070910
Only humans are pygmy based.

>>146070962
autism/10

>>146071067
Gods and witches too

>>146070831
IU hate hyperarmor because it isn't hyperarmor.
Rather than just be sensible game devs and give hyperarmor a clear set of defined rules regarding what it can withstand, and what it cannot withstand, it's arbitrary and context specific in such an arcane and esoteric way that you never really know WHY something staggers you out of hyperarmor, and can never predict WHEN it will happen.

Use any hyperarmor weapon extensively and you'll be baffled at the sheer number of times you lose a fight because a longsword R1 or katana running attack magically cracks through late-animation hyperarmor.

>>146071067
I'd much rather get poked twice by a dinky little rapier than my torso chopped in half twice in a row by an oversized battleaxe

>>146071170
Hyperarmor is based on poise. Add poise, you get more hyperarmor frames.

>>146071205
>Add poise, you get more hyperarmor frames.
This was debunked literally the first week after release, nerd.

>>146071280
Except it isn't.

Don't be so ignorant.

>Champ Gundyr as a mage.
Well, that was unpleasant. I hope it won't happen again.

>>146071165
No.

Humans > Pygmy Based > Hollow based
Gods > Gwyn Based > Hollow based
Etc.

Why do you think humans tend to be so small compared to the other races?

>>146070395
Or just make them purchasable via ashes

>>146069923
>>146070105
>>146070167
Frustrations aside, I miss cutting of tails and things for Boss weapons.

Transposition is of course, the simplest way of creating boss weapons, but I feel it's less interesting.

It'd also be nice if they returned to the idea that you infuse a weapon with a soul, rather than just have the weapon come from the soul.

But, maybe that's just me.

>>146071408
>Why do you think humans tend to be so small compared to the other races?
Game play reasons as it was stated in one of the interviews when someone asked why Anal Rodeo Knights are bigger than player character.
Not the anon you're arguing with, just saying.

>>146071408
Matter of power. By pygmy I don't mean the Furtive Pygmy. I mean those hollow-like things we see getting the souls of lords from the flames. If I'm getting you correctly, what I refer to as pygmies, you refer as hollows, which is probably correct too

>>146071639
Those things at the start of the game are hollows. That's kind of the point; they are literally hollow. You fill them with the first flame, you get a god. You fill them with a shard of the dark soul, you get a human. Etc.

>>146071634
I do miss it to a degree, but I wish they had implemented both. It'd be cool to have more options for boss weapons, or maybe unique armor pieces

>this spear from the great rotwood won't work for my strength build
>but hey I chopped off his hand so I can get the great rotwood club

Shit like that

>>146071313
>parry
>soul spear
>parry
>soul spear
>parry
>soul spear

wow much hard

>>146071639
Hollows found souls within the First Flame and thus birthed the race that is generally referred to as Gods.

I'm going to guess that the Silver and Black Knights are technically of the God race, although clearly lesser varieties. Same goes for Artorias, Ornstein and Smough etc.

The Pygmy was a Hollow, like all the others, but found the Dark Soul instead, splitting it up and giving it to whatever other hollows hadn't become part of the God race.

At least, this is my understanding.

>>146072067
>Start Game
>Continue
>Parry
>Uninstall
pssht, git gud fgt.

>146071634
I wish the broken straight sword was useful for anything at all

>>146072067
I'm playing caster, not a "guy with a parrying shield".

>>146072156
Why? It's never been anything more than a joke weapon outside of a single instance

>>146072195
The sorcerer literally starts with a parrying shield equipped in their hand you loser. It's part of the archetype.

>>146072096
Humanity are fragments of the Dark Soul right? And Humanity + Souls + Hollow is what makes a human?
And the Gods are just Lord Soul + Hollow.

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>>146072156
It's useful for triggering level 80 scrubs.

>>146072202
>He doesnt want the hollow flailing attack weapon art.
Cmon man.

>>146071408
>Why do you think humans tend to be so small compared to the other races?

Like Ciaran and Quelana?

>>146072195
>starting class has parrying shield and riposting dagger

>>146072389
I do not indeed.
Plus, the club already does that.

>>146072156
it's actually not that bad for PvE

>>146072291
Fragments isn't really the right word though. Every piece of humanity is a full Dark Soul.

But Humanity + Hollow is what makes humans.

>>146072402
>Like Ciaran and Quelana?
Ciaran is clearly not a typical example of the Gods, and I always kind of wondered if she was human.

Quelanna isn't really a good example either since we don't really know how much of her current state is natural and how much is because of the fuck up with the flame.

>When ascending the weapon, it will only be displayed as "Greatsword of Artorias", it will not say "cursed". To be certain of which sword you've created and which one you're creating, look at the stats which are unique.
>In the German translation, differentiating this sword with the non-cursed version is easier. This sword is called "Großschwert von Artorias" (Greatsword of Artorias) in German, while the non-cursed version is called "Finstertöter" (Darkslayer).

>>146072815
Slowpoke.jpg

>>146069932
Got it already?

>>146072956
Nope, would you be willing to drop them? I'll put my sign at High Wall in a second then.

>>146072713
>you humans
>no face data
>no humanity with dark hand

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So why did they remove poise in DS3 ?

>>146064059

What's up with the Havel Skirt build that seems to be popular with Japs?

>>146072956
Thanks, friend

>>146073275
Bloodborne Souls

>>146073286
Probably poise/weight min-max

>>146064362

I bet you don't even recognise half of the techniques used in that video.

>>146073457
>skirt
>poise
Anon...

>>146073275
The poise mechanic is too complicated to understand for the average player.

>invaded by darkmoon
>he fucking bows to me, the sinner, in dark londo
>silver tracer one shot
>4 messages of ass bustage

Ds1 is just truly the best

>>146073275
So we don't have abominations like >>146064059
.

>>146073275
Because being able to take actions freely without being interrupted mechanically undermines the combat system and introduces innumerable balance issues in both pvp and pve.

Design-wise, poise's only positive function is to make slow weapons able to perform well in circumstances where their speed would otherwise compromise their performance. Hyperarmor accomplishes this in a better way than poise does and doesn't introduce any of the issues that poise does, like being able to facetank pve with high HP/defense/effective hp through healing or being able to turn pvp matches into dps races by stacking poise on fast weapons like curved swords, straightswords, etc. or enabling poisestabs as a hardcounter to slow weapons.

The biggest issue with poise is that it should not always be active, because complete, constant, passive stagger resistance not only trivializes the game's difficulty, but also breaks down its combat mechanics into "mash R1 whenever you want, chug estus whenever you want, enemy attacks mean nothing unless they can 1-shot you." The other issue is that some weapons, especially the small and fast ones that are already functional, should not be able to access stagger resistance. Poise is indiscriminate, and small weapons make better use of it than the ones that actually need it, increasing the perfoance gap between slow weapons and fast ones instead of closing it. Hyperarmor allows stagger resistance to be context and weapon-specific, ensuring it's only active on a meaningful, limited, timing-based circumstance and only accessed by weapons which absolutely need it.

>>146073286
defense

>>146073648
>there's no way to hit people mid gestures because you can roll out of them during any moment now.

>>146064059
>using the worst psychopass ED
Sasuga japs and their shit taste

>>146073574
Poise/WEIGHT
Basically it could also be an empty slot, but if you have the carry weight for either a skirt or waistcloth, but nothing more; might as well fill the slot.

>>146073275
Looking up poise breKpointd was too hard for casuals, better to just make both the player and every enemy immediately stagger and devolve both pve and pvp into taking turns beating on one another until stamina runs out, dodging until it refills and doing it all over again


Don't be surprised if they put chalice dungeons in the DLC too because miyazaki seems determined to bring all the shit things about bloodborne into DS3. But God forbid we have powerstancing or mixed moveset weapons, and hey Dks1 had blocking with offhand weapons rather than attacking so yep that's coming back too.

It's easier to stun lock bosses in this game than it was to stagger lots of regular enemies in the first game. NG+ old demon king literally can never attack you as long as you keep swinging, it's so stupid.

Getting Smough into a corner and beating the shit out of him until he staggered feels great and makes you feel powerful, so does being able to cleave a couple hollows without needing to worry about getting stun locked to death and needing to ninja flip away and unpunishably heal.

I have almost 70 hours in the game, it's by no means bad by triple A title standards especially in this day and age of sixty dollars for six hours of actual content.

However, I don't feel the same drive to play that I had and still have for the first game in the series, and unless the DLC is downright magical I can't see myself sticking around for hundreds and hundreds of hours again

>>146072202
Yeah I just mean in a Dark Souls 1 style thing

Is Pontiff's left/right eye ever worth using? I like the concept.

>>146073574
Hollow Soldier stuff has poise, numbnuts.

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After finally getting disenchanted enough with 3 PvP and kind of 3 in general to be honest, I finally went back to SotFS to mess around and see if people still did much there.

>Head to the bridge
>A shit ton of red signs and dragon eyes
>Random invasions here and there even

I spent a good day playing against a lot of different people and not one time did I see a Santier's, a chaos blade, none of that shit. I saw people with character-y names, obvious silly gimmick names, a good run of edgelord names. Saw all sorts of goofy ass armor sets, some neat fashion mix and match, obvious dark set and shadow set stuff on the edgemeisters.

It was fun, memeing be damned, SM is still garbage but past that fuck it.

>>146074162
Those items are another victim of From's amazing balancing where they're scared of it being maybe too good so they cover their bases and make them dogshit

>>146074162
Maybe for gimmicky builds that can utilize them well but otherwise you're sacrificing one or two ring slots.
The actual values they offer are generally too low to be worthwhile though.

>>146074162
In pve, the right eye is very good and easy to trigger.
The left eye is worthless. It heals for a trivial amount and requires more attacks than there are things to hit or stamina to swing to trigger consistently.

>>146074165

It's Dusk's skirt, Anon.

>>146074239
Huh that';s good troll stuff right there, say Ds3 sucks, push the reader into thinking you might be a cool ds1 player and then pull the rug out of from under them with ds2 shit

>>146074239
In this point in DS2's lifecycle SM doesnt matter anymore for PvP since almost everyone that still plays is in the highest tier or almost in it.
Or they still play in the SL150 Agape-Dark Chaos blade-meta

>>146073738
All that could be solved if it either applied during actions or better, if it needed huge amounts to work. As in, full havel's + wolf ring enduring only one UGS slash at best.
The problem with poise was a combination of END being too good as well as there being little tradeoff. It'd honestly be good to have poise if in order to gather any significant amounts of it you had to give up your ability to medium roll or heavily have to invest into a stat. As it is now, you are punished for liking the looks of any heavy armor because their benefit is so little. I don't mind this, but if you really want to have the game like this, come foward, remove the text mentioning poise and make equip load a worthy investment.

>>146074364
No anon, I said no memery, the PvP on there is actually fun as compared to fighting the hundredth snoozefest straight sword shitter of the day in 3.

>>146074430
Forcing every heavy weapon user to also only use the heaviest armor and always dump huge amounts of levels into a barrier stat just to function is retarded design.

If a weapon is balanced with context-specific stagger resistance in mind, then it should always have access to that context-specific stagger resistance.

>>146073738
>Heavy armor giving you face tanking capabilities at the tradeoff of weight and stats needed to wear it is bad
>Forcing dex characters to weave in and out like they're actually dextrous instead of r1 mash is for some reason bad

You anti poise memers really tug my weiner sometimes

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Reminder that to play with this autistic katana all you have to do is roll into people until they fuck up one of their roll catches by 10 frames so you can hyperarmor through their move and kill them in one combo.
Reminder that even the body blow that deals no damage procs bleed.

>>146074389
I'm only at about a million and change on my character this time when I saw all that, so I dunno, it's obviously all in the mid to late range of SM, but it's felt like an okay spread so far.

>>146074276
What ring should I use instead? I've got RoFAP, life ring and untrue dark ring on.

>>146074695
i dont know ur build or playstyle homeslice, gonna have to use your brain on this one

>>146074654
>flying weeb technique has more armor than giant weapons and fat armor sets

These sequels are a fucking joke

>>146074239
I miss fist weapons actually being usable whatsoever, much less in PvP. As much as DS2 dropped the ball on other things, I'll never regret my time spent playing kung fu master on motherfuckers especially right after Ivory came out and nobody was expecting it. RIP boner fist, you were too beautiful for this gay earth.

>>146074654
Not to mention due to latency, that bleed will build even if you roll through

>>146074695
My builds almost always use Havel's, Fap and Chloranthy, leaving one ring for situational purposes

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>>146071313
>>146072195
he's easy as shit retardo

extremely easy both with a shield and as a caster

the only hard bosses as a caster are crystal sage, farron memers and lmao2prince

maybe nameless too

>>146075110
>says gundyr is ezpz
>then lists 3 of the easiest bosses in the game as difficult

I don't even know what the fuck is going on in these games anymore

>>146074575
But the problem is that they aren't balanced at all. Outside hornet one hit kills how often do you see heavy weapons? They stand no chance against fast weapons because they can only hit by reaction making them auto lose if you act like a passive asshole with say CCS, katanas or even spears.

>>146074637
>Forcing dex characters to weave in and out
Except it doesn't accomplish this.
Hyperarmor forces characters with dex weapons to weave in and out when facing hyperarmor weapons, or else get fucked by hyperarmor trades.

Poise does not. Poise gives dex characters access to constant passive hyperarmor, which allows them to approach heavy weapons and mash R1, confident that their weapon's higher DPS will win out and forcing the heavy weapon use to weave in and out to evade the unstaggerable DPS juggernaut that is a 2H curved sword with poise.

Point of fact, dex weapons require a smaller stat investment than heavy weapons, because their damage/stamina ratio is much, much more efficient. Because stamina is less of a limiting factor, dex weapons don't need as much for their weapons to function, which gives them spare points to put towards vitality to stack heavier armor. Their weapons are also lighter, m,eaning more of their total carry weight can be put towards armor and poise. Heavy weapons both require a larger investment in endurance even to just be able to swing twice, as well as consuming more of your character's total vitality. At the same level, a dex build will have significantly more poise and higher defense than a heavy weapon-using strength build.

DaS1-style poise greatly benefits dex weapons and offers minimal benefit for heavy weapons, which now must contend with unstaggerable dex weapons.

>>146075212
for a mage*
Crystal Sage is fucking hell with her danmaku phase and high magic resistance

Handing in 80 humanity for max dark hand steal may be tedious and boring but at least I have this gorgeous view of kaathes mouth and a soothing palette of black everywhere

>>146075320
So why list sage and ignore Aldrich?

>>146075212
Key phrase was "with a mage"

>>146075460
I didn't make the list

>>146075320
surprisingly, Boulder Heave works well against him

>>146074875
I can't find any other rings that actually do anything. I use the creighton's axe on a str build.

>>146075212
crystal sage is annoying as shit as a caster, because you don't have any of the good pyromancies yet and they have high magic resistance
if you refuse to be a straight sword shitter, it's quite hard

farron memers phase 2 is by far the most aggressive boss, it's extremely hard to take a sip after you get hit without getting hit again due to all the huge long range attacks with lingering hitboxes and jesus christ how hitler

it'll probably be better if you level pure int, but I was sidebranching faith as well

as for lmao2prince, unless there's some spell I don't know about that hits both of them, maybe CSS or soul stream, you have to kill lorian like 4-5 times

My controller stopped working with Dark Souls 1. I have DSFix, and the controller works normally with every game that int Dark Souls.

I tried googling it, I couldn't find anything. Could you guys help me out?

>>146074654
some shitty streamer called rufio was doing this the other day

it doesn't take any skill or creativity but if it makes for some random easy wins, people will flock to it

>>146075057
Somewhat with you there, but it's power stance I miss. Like yeah whatever they added 2-hand = dual weapons, but when we had power stance I could fuck around with what I wanted, not just this defined list of couple things with the functionality.

What's up guys. I play DS3 and I am level 80 something. My friend torrented it because he was broke, and now he's quite far into the game. Now he (can) wants to buy it. We know he'll have to start it over, but if we turn matchmaking off, can I help him through the early levels? Can he summon me even if I'm way over his level?

pls help

>>146075110
Hadn't had much troubles with crystal sage and abyss watchers. First i just spammed with great combustion, and second with fire orb. But champ...
>First stage piss easy, sure.
>On second stage he can chain attacks forever as he likes, and even cancel some attacks into dash attacks.
>Weapons do piss poor damage, the only way to fight is with chaos bed vestiges.
>Can't get a window to cast them at all. He's CONSTANTLY ATTACKING and closing distance and his homing dash kills me in one hit and so does his uppercut.
>Hardly even have time for estus and ashtus.

>>146074637
Youre retarded a raw dex weapon and being loaded for vit for poise armor would demolish any other fast weapon user who didnt do the same thing. Thats an entire stat based class gets fucked cause youre too stupid to roll.

>>146075107
Isn't havels redundant if you're under 70% load anyways?

>>146075660
passwording

>>146075771
Will it work even with that abyssal level difference?

>>146075660
He can transfer the save. If he's not a shitty achievement whore there's nothing to lose. Password scales you down so no issues cooping.

>>146075834
yes, you get scaled down

>>146075702
Most of my builds require a bit of heavier armor because that's where the fashion is
And it gives you a bit more leeway if you want to use weapons of various weight

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>>146074654
>he spammed the L2 before confiriming the hit
he punished your shit. git gud.

not but seriously, the WA is so fucking easy to dodge. also throw some fucking duel charms on them. it is a good weapon but not OP

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>>146075460
at that point you have GCF and aldrich is a meme when using it
same with oceiros

oceiros was a lot harder on a caster than a melee, but that's not saying much as it's one of the easiest bosses on a melee character due to how much downtime there is between his attacks and how incredibly telegraphed they are

I'm assuming if you pick up GCF before crystal sage, but that's kinda odd
doing farron keep, carthus catacombs and most of smouldering lake just for GCF

>Can't get a window to cast them at all.
almost all of his attacks have windows, once you get used to his charge it's pretty easy to roll through and attack while he's finishing up
because he combos a lot you can often cast after you dodge through the first/second attack while he's doing the rest

the most dangerous thing about him is the shoulderpush & the backkick, both are negated by the fact you're a caster

>>146075842
>>146075854
thanks
but what does "scale down" mean exactly?
>>146075842
won't it make him softbanned?

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Real competition when?

>>146075269
Seriously my man you're an idiot. You're going on telling me about how much an easier investment dex and then you just pretend like the only difference between a str and dex build is more points spent for the str. That's not even true cause most of the best dex weapons require big dex investment to make their scaling worthwhile. Dex weapons also do a whole lot less damage per hit than the big ones, but that really isn't even the case in the shitfest of Ds3

Hyper armor is inconsistent at best and with how shitty 3s netcode is, and with how there's no poise on heavy armor, and how fat roll is a death sentence, and how you need to waste points in vit to wear big armor, and with how there's big time diminishing returns on armor, and with how str weapons don't even do that much more damage compared to dex weapons, and with how heavy stuff effects stam regen. With all that, is it really too much to ask for something like havel's or winged knight set to be able to not stagger from a fucking dagger or rat bite? Would that really be too much to give big boys?

And here's the greatest poise meme of them all, saying poise helps dex users out more give me a fucking break. Good luck with your 40-50 poise against a guy using a zweihander with 100+ poise

>>146075678
see >>146075919

>>146075896
It hard counters big weapons. They don't have time to dodge it and it easily outtrades everything.

>>146075919
Oh, I'm talking a pure mage run, sorveries only. It's far more thrilling for me, but Aldrich is the hardest.

I'm running a pure strength +flame arc build, and I was wondering which gs or ugs were the best choices. I'm using twinaxes and executioners and flamberge and bkga which are all nice. How is the cathedral gs? Also I've already used all machetes and want something else

>>146075681
Not even a cogent argument cause we have no idea how poise cutoffs, regeneration, or really anything else about it in 3. But here you are telling me how it would romp people if it were in the game

The brokenness of straight swords in 3 is 10x worse than going up against poise monsters in DS

>>146075956

Soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGuyJW3iYy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJ22PCQ6gU

>>146076083
could some post the stomp-moon-launching 2kat user webm?

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uh, thanks, from?

>>146074654
>using black flame a second time for no reason
retard

>>146075934
No softban, as long as he did not CE offline. You can transfer and if he's unlucky to get banned, just delete the save and start normally. You stats will be scaled down but you can still do everything you could before if you password summon.

>>146076215

>have a broken computer
>blames From

Every time

>>146075934
the game automatically makes it so your damage output/defense is on par with your friend's lower level as long as you use a password. passwords allow literally anybody to play with each other

>>146076084
yeah then I could see that, but even with a straight int build you'll do very impressive damage with pyromancies, so even if you don't change anything about the build it can be really easy

all you need to do is stop being an autist
and unlike other "tactics" that also just require you to stop being an autist, it's not even cheese, like parrying gundyr or pontiff is

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>>146075896
I missed the flame roll catch by 10 frames and ate a 1200 damage combo. That's all the did the entire match, roll onto me until he had the chance to connect the ebin instakill combo. He didn't punish shit, he used the move until it worked, just like go tards prenerf roll L1. See webm, this is what happens when it doesn't work.

>>146076013
DaS1 fags, everyone.

Big weapons were only good for ebin backstabs with hornet ring.

>>146076125
Cathy GS is weird. It has the FUGS vertical 2hr1 moveset and a shitty WA, but strike damage can be a novel gimmick and it has decent STr scaling with Heavy (515 AR@50Str?).
I like it, but don't expect free and instant wins.

>>146076252
>>146076292
Thanks for the patience, good people. Have a nice evening

>>146076215
>that modern art piece rock
nice

>>146076245
>he doesn't know about the concept of roll catching
>he can't distinguish between black flame and combustion
>calling other retards

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEbgAhherfM

>this guy survived a bkga hornet riposte

>>146076301
He played like a cancer, sure, but why did you got for black flame anyway? you have a fucking sword. you could roll catch him easly with it.
or just use carthus sword against those retards.

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>>146076281
Idk, I've played for about 550 hours and it only has happened twice, that's why it surprised me.

>>146076326
lmao you're a moron

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>pyromancy build
>take sippy from Ashen flask
>they use their estus and pull out a dark sword
every fucking time

>>146076083
except stomp hard counters the weapon art

>>146076296
>cheating on sorcery with other spell types
>not having sorcery as your one and only

You don't deserve it with that attitude.

>Kill 6 guys in a row on an FC
>Die to running poke of POLE

JUST

How is such a shit technique so fucking infuriating

>>146074654
>unironically getting hit by that shit
>unironically using/spamming black flame

I'm sorry but you're just really bad at the game. It has nothing to do with that guy.

It's you, anon. It's you. You are really really bad at the game, you should probably uninstall.

>>146076497
>550 hours

are you ok

>>146064814
I haven't played in a month, what's a ghost server?

>>146076464
He was alternating between claw parries. I wanted to kill him while he switched for a claw parry with the unparriable Black Flame Combustion combo.

>>146076585
y-you too

>>146076083

Wow you are really bad. I 2HR2 leo ring poke into that shit all the time with my Astora GS.

>>146075896
It fucks over HA weapons because the stagger part of the jump and the headshot itself both break hyperarmor, while the jump itself has hyperarmor that withstands 2H ultra weapon R1s. You can WA on-reaction to a UGS R1 and interrupt it or HA through it to trigger the headshot combo for 90% of their health.

Dodging it isn't the problem, the problem is that the near-instant stagger and HA means that it's never safe to attack someone using it outside of punishing a poorly spaced normal attack, but they have no reason top use normal attacks when they can just fish for the WA, which is safe if it whiffs.

>>146076461
>oh shit i'm getting my ass kicked, better press my Win button

man parries in 3 are just too easy to do, completely fucks the pace of a duel

>>146076296
But it's best for roleplaying, my character is an arrogant wizard thinking the nature of pyros and miracles isn't real magic. It's autistic but I'd rather play characters like that and forbid certain things every run than have another moment of "whoops, guess the skelly dropped CCS, better swap weapons" during my runs.

>>146075869
I wear medium armor at 11 vit so I don't really need Havel's. Are clutch rings useless in pvp?

>>146076461
It only did ~1200 damage, the shitter probably fucked up his build.

>>146068485
idk, fool around with the data, optimize builds for non fai=int

>>146076739
Even dodging it is a problem sometimes because it has a long active window so you have to time you roll correctly, and if you mistime you either get staggered by the body blow that leads into headshot or get hit by the blade that does 200 damage but leads into L1.

>>146076681
Go for Stance R2 then.

>>146076832
Supposedly yes. Their negative damage absorption is increased in pvp.

>>146076681

I mean seriously you're just bad at the game. Stop blaming weapons. Stop getting mad when you're playing a joke build in the first place.

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>>146076669
I'm not.

>>146076923
Hindsight is 20/20

>>146076968
o-okay

>>146076416
>"he doesn't know about the concept of roll catching"
you clearly don't because you weren't even trying to roll catch with it, just randomly using it when you have a straight sword of all things

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>Getting invaded permanently disables invasions until you summon or invade someone else.

BRAVO MIYAZAKI

>>146076890
>optimize builds for non fai=int
for most catalysts it doesn't even matter

most don't scale in both, and for the ones that do it's unreliable as fuck

>>146076739
Seriously, use vertical swings against it. you will stagger them always. halberds are hard counter for this shit (the first swing at least), same for FUGS or any other 2handed vertical swing.

>>146077057
isn't it just a cooldown of like 5 minutes?

>>146077054
But I did roll catch him. You can even see the damage. However, the lmao2kat doesn't care about that with its hyper armor that's stronger than ultra greatswords for no reason except Fromsoftware balancing.

>>146076574
I'll tell you why
>breaks most hyperarmor
>prevents 2H combos even when it HA trades
>R2 modifier on a running attack
>thrust attack with an R2 modifier
>4 frame startup tracking thrust with a long-duration lingering hitbox that dashes forward and crosses ground as it hits
>fewer vulnerable recovery frames than a pre-nerf cestus parry
>can be buffered to perform from a standing position and obviate the need to sprint first
>more range than most spears
It's absurd. There's no counterplay to katana WD spam except getting lucky with a completely predictive parry or playing hyperpassive and running away until they run out of patience and use a different attack.

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>>146077057
hi

>>146076524
What level were you pvp'ing at? I chug ashen a lot on sorcerer and rarely see counter chugs.

What's a fun build that involves faith? Never used a miracle.

>>146075681
>would demolish a fast user
Here's a hint: learn to parry you doubleplusungud scrub, you can see that Zweihänder swing coming from miles away.

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>tfw you grind a million souls worth of silver knights before a concord drops

>>146077102
It can HA through a greataxe/Yhorm's machete 2HR1 and a cathedral knight UGS or Greatsword 2HR1.

Only Gundyr's halberd and the FUGS interrupt it, but the former is the mascot weapon of Brazil and the latter is utter trash and begging to just get WDR1 spammed to death.

>>146077159
That was the case before but seems like getting invaded more than once in a playthrough was too mean and hurtful for the audience From were trying to cultivate with 3.

Plebbit did some tests where they stayed online for 24 hours at a time and never got invaded again after the first.

It's not really that surprising considering how they fucked with invasions in Bloodborne.

>>146076148
Even at the bare minimum which is being able to poise through 1 hit. Which is both min and max cause you cant get stunned past 2. A dex weapon user without any poise would destroy any other dex user. There is no bullshit about break points.

Unless the stat investment was so heavy that it would cause a rapier user to fat roll which means it would cause any other weapon heavier than a great sword to to stutter roll. Great now youve ruined poise for strength weapons too.

Just roll moron.

>>146077424
illusorywall is tumblr tho

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>>146077316
There is no fun FTH build. If you manage to discover one, then it'd be a miracle.

>>146077459
he made the post detailing it on reddit, but he's also on twitter

people aren't defined by websites they go to dingus

>>146076161
>>146075956

You forgot about this also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX9dPFlEvnc

>sci-fi dark souls
>martial arts dark souls

Goddamn so many dark souls genre games coming out now, what a time to be alive.

When is The Surge coming out anyways? All I got on Absolver is 2017.

>>146077525
>people aren't defined by websites they go to dingus
Yes they are.

>>146077587
convincing argument. cool

>>146077316
I've been enjoying my Dex/Fai build. It lets you use the Dragonslayer spears effectively, slam faggots with sunlight spear, and buff sharp infused weapons with darkmoon

>>146077054
>roll catching
>spam running r1 with straight sword

What an amazing technique

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>Have a normal nice name
>No summon for bosses
>Buys collector's edition, get a meme name
>Constant summons, no more than 30 secs of waiting

What does this mean?

>>146077682
Are you telling me you have no prejudice whatsoever against people who browse neogaf, reddit, memebase, funnyjunk, 9gag, worldstar, 4chan and all those other shitty meme sites out there?

>>146075574
Please. I just made it to Frampt.

>>146077319
Parries are a crap shoot and you blow that parry and you're stunlocked til death 9 times out of 10

not that guy, he's a faggot but you can't just trivialize parrying ultra weapons like it's a gimme

>>146077316
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45496

>>146077449
Yeah I'll just roll and play keep away and heal 15 times as i get hit by weapons at 4x their blade length cause that's so much fun

oh wait im lying

>>146078035
He said "fun."

>>146078135
>faith
>fun
Cutting your options p slim there boyo

>>146077864
Your regular name must've been shit.

>>146077973
Then roll through it and get some stabs in while the guy still has to recover from the hugeass swing. He's wearing the plonker armor, you're the fast guy, so play to your strengths. Giantdad notwithstanding.

>>146078035
>that vit
>that dex and str
>SL100

why

>>146076761

Even worse, when you use a weapon that has no unparriable attack besides the running R2, people immediately pull out the parry tool. It's really frustrating.

I love the long spear and am an expert at using it, and can even play around parrying exceptionally well (I mean, I've had a ton of practice as you might imagine). But when EVERY. FUCKING. MATCH. devolves into the opponent just trying to parry me the whole time, it gets really tiring. It gets old really quickly, so I can almost never play my favorite weapon in the game because people are dicks (at least at SL120).

Parrying was a mistake. Caestus especially.

>>146078135
What's more fun that fighting toe to toe with Abyss Watchers and Soul of Cinder as a holy crusader of Velka instead of rolling around like a filthy peasant when a light breeze touches you?

>>146078327
git gud shitter

Is there a way to get a Big Hat in Ds3 with no Crystal Sage mask without killing Karla? Does the sorcerers outside of the Crystal Sage boss room drop theirs?

>>146077183
except you didn't?
if you did roll catch him you would've hit him right at the end of his i-frames or as he exits the rolling animation
you even had a chance to hit him after the first wa but you decide to black flame instead of attacking with ss for no reason?

>>146077861
>spamming an attack
you won't roll catch like that
>running r1
you do a delayed third r1 after the second hit

>>146076574

That's why I always keep my gotthards handy to rolling counterpoke the shit out of them. Bloodring is also pretty nice.

>>146075110
>crystal sage
>being any more than a slight annoyance on ng
>anything other than a fucking joke on + cycles

I really wish this meme would end

>doing dried finger run at sl75
>virtually no invaders
>doing dried finger run at 130
>so much invaders i can't fucking rest at the bonfires
how

>>146078327
Try to use a dagger as a weapon
>first opponent puts their weapon away and spends the whole fight mashing L2 whenever I get close, dies to backstabs
>second opponent swaps to a cestus and spends the whole match mashing L2, dies to backstabs
>3rd
>4th
>5th
>and so on
>not a single actual fight in more than a dozen matches
>not a single enemy every hit R1 or swung a weapon
>every
>single
>one
>just stood still and refused to do anything but parry until they died.
I don't even blame parrying for being too good at this point. This game's community is just full of these kinds of people.

>>146078103
No, you can find other morons who will trade hits with you until someone is smart enough to hit the r2 button

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78KB, 666x374px

Anyone wanna do Crystal Sage?

pw: dsg

>>146078515
You can buy Karla's set without killing her.

>>146078713
Sure, PC yea?

>>146078286
You can't be smiting heathens in rags and skirts. Gotta have your crusader armor.

And who needs dex/str when you can just throw Sunlight Spears into your enemy's face and laugh as they can't hope to stagger you? Lightning buff a raw caestus and you're ready to go preserve through your enemy's weak attacks and dish divine punishment with your fists.

>>146078713
>>146078762

Sorry, ps4

>>146078626
crystal sage on all of my runs, melee or caster is one of the hardest bosses in the game for me
champ is a complete joke in comparison

>>146078524
>damage shows up
>"NO YOU DIDN'T"

that's exactly what happened, but as I said before, latency. Black Flame into weaponart is guaranteed roll catch with lower latency. And I used the black flame because he was alternating parries with a claw.

Why are you so defensive about 2kat anyway?