/dsg/ - Souls General

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>>146027123
It's hard to use not because of its associations but because it's fucking huge and a very unique hue

superior bread

1st for lucifers dead parents

>>146027325
favorite halbred/axe for pvp ?

how viable is it to off-hand a spear in pvp ?

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>>146027595
crescent

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REMINDER TO MAKE YOUR POPE, KNIGHT, OR INVADER FOR THE EVENT NEXT WEEKEND

http://pastebin.com/jqKQj426

>>146027735
If this isn't one of the most aesthetic screenshots I've ever seen, I don't know what is.

Damn shame your UI is visible though.

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Post cosplays.

>>146027770
>not posting the superior version
I don't have it either, being a massive faggot on mobile

>>146027770
>ganking event
not much creativity there bud

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>Watchdogs of Farron
>Actually a wolf

>>146027770
this event is going to be fucking dead

What rapiers attack with the left hand? Only Estoc and Crystal Sage? Also is there a list of best weapons to infuse with dark/chaos?

JollyCooperation here, taking off.

I apologize if anyone here needed assistance with anything.

Farewell lads, and best of luck.

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>it's a "hit someone twice then they roll away and whoever can do that the most first wins because that's how poise is intended to work regardless of weapon size" episode
lol

What are your hopes and dreams for buffs and nerfs?

I want wolnir's sword to get buffed. Either faith scaling or some kind of armor or faster casting on the weapon art. I'd prefer a gravelord sword, but this is the only big papa skelly sword in the game and its shit.

>>146028103
All rapiers have left hand attacks you dunce

>>146028178
I want bident to be buffed

what's a good 1h weapon to compliment my sunlight spear/lightning stake/lightning storm build

i would rather prefer not having to use the dark sword or estoc, but most of the other potential faith weapons like dragonslayer axe and others just underperform

>>146027848
>>146027763

Okay here it is, based on a DaS2 list I don't have now. Mind you, not talking about tastes, but the quality of PvP you ought to expect.

Time for >opinions

>Just black crystal out
Fallen Knight, Artorias, Dancer with unmatching set, Golden crown, Undead Legion, Helm of Favor, Dickwraith, Assassin hood

>Proceed at your own risk
Lucatiel Mask, Billed mask, Iron Helm, Black Hand hat, Thief mask, Shadow Mask, Executioner, Sunless veil, Helm of thorns if it's the only part of the set, Brass Helm, Ragged mask, Hood of prayer, Alva, Sellsword

>50/50
Chain Helm, Cleric Hat, Knight, Nameless knight, elite knight, Lothric knight , Faraam, Firelink, Dusk's Crown, Helm of thorns with more of the set, Dancer's with matching set, Catarina Helmet, Standard Helm, Pharis hat, Steel Soldier Helm, Exile mask, Sage big hat, Herald, Ornstein, Old sorcerer, Drakeblood, BK and SK, Lorian

>Bright side of life
Evangelist hat, Northern helm, Pyromancer Crown, Worker hat, Wolnir's Crown, Brigand hood, Maiden Hood, Xantous, Fire witch, Painting guardian, Winged knight, Outrider, Smough, Court sorcerer, Blindfold

>This gun be gud
Cathedral Knight Helm, Grave Warden Hood, Eastern Helm, Black iron, Sneering mask, Pontiff crown, Aristocrat, Mimic head, Conjurator, Sunset, Silver mask, Gundyr's, Sorcerer, Havel

I left out 4 helmets. 2 are thrall hood and archdeacon, they'll either fall in the first or last group. Other two are the ones I rush and always use on either of my characters so you give whatever opinion on them. The coolest people I found wore Cathedral, conjurator or havel.

>>146028281
Ornstein's spear is pretty underused for what it can do from what I'ver seen

>>146028178
I want the farron greatsword to have the worst parry in the game, but a 130 base crit multiplier.

Worst parry being: Longest recovery frames, latest startup frames, shortest active frames, and longest overall parry.

>>146028281
>dragonslayer axe
>underperform

Nigger what? It has 750 AR with lightning blade.

>>146028173
it's a walk backwards until the opponent fucks up season

How do I handle The Nameless King's first phase? By the time I've avoided an attack and rush up to poke it's head, he's winding up for another attack.

Which talisman/chime is the best to use Dark Weapon? I'd guess it's between the White Hair Talisman, Sunless Talisman and Caitha's Chime. I'm at 20 INT, 25 FTH.

>>146027735
what were you doing in that screenshot ? running r2 ?

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>>146028305
>Cathedral Knight Helm


yeeaaah nigga

I love the fuck out of Bloodborne
I played a ton of DaS1 and Demon's Souls but didn't like them as much as Bloodborne
I hate DaS2

Is DaS3 for me /dsg/? Still deciding if I should pick it up

>>146028178
I really hoped his sword could be as fast as Morne's.

>>146028364
could work
>>146028373
do you give the axe a lightning infusion or refined infusion?

>>146028178
>Wolnir's, Sunlight, Morne get FTH scaling

>Cleric's Candlestick respecced to cast Miracles

>fixes for MLGS and Leonhard's sickle's lasers

>better hammers overall

>higher damage scaling for dark spells

>some sort of nerfs for straight swords

>100+% buff on reaper sweetspot damage

>Frostbite being viable

>poison being viable

>VIT to do anything other than equip load

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>>146028305

>mfw I use an undead legion helm on my pike build
>mfw I just poke people to death from behind mobs/outside of their range
>mfw if they run/buff/heal/cast spells I shoot them with my arbalest

death to those who insult goo-god

>>146028036
>>146027770
>>146027930

>people vote for one event
>HURR ITS RIGGED DEAD EVENT SHIT EVENT
every fucking time
This keeps up it's going to be like this every single event then eventually /dsg/ events are just going to be 4-man themed fightclubs

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>hits do a fourth of my health(and usually get combod)
>shit ton of health
>stagger animation nearly non existant
>there's still the superman UGS phantom to go after all of this

Can't feel my ass

>>146028591
how can poison be "viable" ? give it a stamina regen debuf ?

>>146028305
>not putting mimic head in its own god-bro tier
Every one of these absolute madmen has been a pleasure to fight ever since DaS1, it's always fun to see how they cope with the time limit they put on themselves, especially when the rest of their build is as retarded as their hat.

>>146028581
go RAW if you don't have much in the way of STR/DEX

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>>146028546
DEUS VAULT!

>>146027595
manserpent/crescent

maybye, if your oponent is bad

Anyone on pc have a spare Yuria set?
pass is drift
At Highwall bonfire.

>>146028178
buff blessed health regen to +6 per sec

>>146028420
if you got some faith, just lightning spear the drake, does a shit ton of damage even when it does less than 100 to your average enemy

>>146028546
My problem with that helm is that it looks goofy on most armour.

>>146028591

I wish great axes had more than just overhead chops. That's why I use the crescent axe since its the only axe with a really interesting move set. I wish great axes had a spinning rolling attack instead of that weird ground stab with less than half the range of a normal swing.

>>146028514
He did the charged R2 with warcry active

>>146027885
I had it set to auto hide but it reappears whenever I attack
>>146028514
yes

>>146028678
Either that or simply make it increase the tick damage per tick like it used to.

That way the damage would at least be noticeable over a few seconds.

>>146028657
They are pretty easy to backstab to death though as long as it's 1v1. Might as well whip out a shield with all that strength.

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so....this....is....the....power....of....the....120....memeta......woah

>>146029009
what the fuck is this shit

>>146028638
>ITS RIGGED
no one said that
>DEAD EVENT
it probably will be judging by the previous event
>SHIT EVENT
how is ganking with a shit theme not a SHIT EVENT

>>146029073
meme posting

>>146028948
Poison would be hard to work with in 3 because moss is as fast as a chug and punishing that is hard. I'm just sad we got no toxic weapons at all.

>>146029083
Someone unironically claimed that the two polls it was in that the winner was rigged

Also that the event didn't have the necessary amount of votes to win

Then they just endlessly backpedal

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>>146025069
>>146025069
>>146025069

>>146028754
alright, i'll try and tune the build and see if i can get dragonslayer axe to work
any other suggestions apart from using dragonslayer axe for a faith build, though?

>>146029176
It triggers relatively fast already.

If they were to add some sort of scaling to it, possibly DEX or someshit, to make the damage of even 3 or 4 ticks noticeable it'd be fine if it forces them to use moss. An extra 100-200 damage over the course of a duel are already enough to make a difference in the worst case.

>>146028638
Having someone hosting a normal fightclub for that entire day sounds really good honestly.

I missed the jousting event

Did everyone remember to wish ENB a happy fathers day?

>>146029373
who?

>>146029176
We also have practically no poison weapons.
We have 2 dex-based spears with poison, one dex based curved sword, a dex-based whip and a fucking dagger. That's it
Poison is exclusively tied to dex weapons and there's only 4 of them in the whole game. Of the 4, only the Ghru Spear is actually even usable in pvp. The rest are penalized so heavily for having poison that they might as well not even be weapons.

It's a far cry from DaS2 where you had shit like a pure strength lance/greathammer hybrid that could apply poison via multihit attacks and virtually every build had access to their own unique array of status effect weapons.

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>>146028932
>>146027735

>try to redo this screenshot
>oh god my wrist

>>146029396
Probably some twitter streamer.

>>146028420
I have the Lightning Spear weapon, will that work?

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>>146029009
So.....diverse....woah

>peeve stopped playing ds3
>ironpineapple went back to ds1
>dropoutdragon hasn't made a new ds3 video in over a month
>onlyafro is playing overwatch now
>ds3 has 7k players right now, ds1 has 3.5k and ds2 4k
jesus christ

>>146029434
It's odd because there are many bleed weapons and good ones at that even without the status, but something weaker isn't fair game.

>>146028560
there is way more variety in weapons

there is covenant farm for the rewards ( all are shit, and only matter if you want plat)

the ost is mostly meh

i would say go for it anon, its not like there are more ps4 games to invest into

>>146029686
>ds2 now has more players than ds1
Zelda cycle everyone
Though it's true ds3 has literally no variety at all, with only 1 or 2 builds being viable and maybe 3 good pvp weapons and no way to match them up without fucking yourself over

>>146029686
ded series
bloodborne 2 fucking when

>>146029567
>samefagging

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>>146029686

>>146029459
>boneitis is the new hollowing

>>146029802
Hopefully never. Bloodborne was good because it was a new IP and a fresh concept. They should focus on doing that instead. Albeit it would be hard for From of all companies to do that

>>146029783
ds2 is deder than d3

literally will never recover because its the worst in the series.

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>>146029783
>ds2 now has more players than ds1
u wot m8

>>146030107
>>146029860
>>146029980
DE LETE THIS

>>146030107
yeah I didn't check that anon's post
>check until there are non left is literally the cancer of captcha

>>146029567
Please post more of this bitch.

>>146028428
Uh, just did some test with these and some others, all at +0, 20 int 25 fth, and the Crystal Chime seems to be the best

>>146030215
>finally check them out
>incorrect captcha error

the worst

so what's the best axe?

>>146028178

Off the top of my head (Keep in mind scaling benefits also scale off base AR):

Buff benefits of A/S scaling for all weapons.

Lower Dark Sword, Anri's SS, Lothric Knight Sword, and Gotthard's base AR by about 20 each.

Add 20 base damage to the Butcher's Knife, add hyperarmor to its uncharged R2s.

Speed up other axes to be on par with straight swords in speed or slightly slower depending on the size of axe.

Add brief hyperarmor frames for all hammer attacks and not just charged R2s.

Remove physical damage/scaling on the MLGS entirely, add 20 more base magic damage to it and increase its magic scaling to A/S.

Change Greatsword of Judgment magic damage to Dark, make it's INT/FAI scaling C/C at max. Increase length of its self-buff to 60 seconds. Also change it 2HR1s to the Hollowslayer/Drakeblood Dark Souls 2 greatsword attack.

Change Dancer's Swords magic damage to Dark. Buff base elemental damage by 20 each.

Buff FUGS base damage by 20. Make its 2H moveset along with the Cathedral UGS' unparryable.

Increase Bloodlust's WA bonus and length by 30% and up to 60 seconds.

Increase physical faith scaling from Saint Bident to S.

Fix the issue where 2H Greataxe attacks randomly don't get a 2hit combo.

Change WA of Smough's Hammer to Charge.

Increase AR of Whip by 40 so 40/40 Spotted Whip doesn't completely outclass it. Increase Poison damage of Spotted Whip to compensante.

Reduce wind-up frames of whip and fist start up attacks by 1-2 seconds. Make it so that charged whip R2s actually deal more damage.

Slightly reduce wind-up on Great Hammer R2s, UGS running attacks. Increase hitbox of some Greataxe rolling attacks to fit the actual weapon like with the BKGA.

Lower stamina consumption of BKGA attacks by 5.

Increase stamina/FP costs of repeated use of quickstep WA by 10-20% after each use to prevent spamming it.

Buff Frostbite to last up to 30 seconds and have a more noticeable stamina/speed loss and for weapons with it to proc more.

>>146030367
your favourite axe

do you have to obtain the spells/ring yourself or can you trade them for plat ?

Hi /dsg/.

Haven't touched DS3 in a while, any word on when the DLC is going to be released?

is this literally the worst general in all of 4chan?
I really can't think of a group of people who suck at a videogame bigger than this.

>>146030405
Can't trade spells.

>>146030367
i like man-serpent, that range

>>146030401
I... I like that kind of attitude. Thank you

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>using Hodrick to help me clear the woods in NG+
>funny hat npc invades
>Hodrick one shots her
>watchdog shows up
>he's semi friendly
>Hodrick one shots him
>same watchdog re invades after
>he BC's out

>>146030509
soon

>>146030559
hello newfriend this general is just shitposters and namefags

>>146030628
Holy shit, Hodrick can do that?

>>146030663
no one can stop the flim-flam

>>146030663
He tries to murder you, too, but he's not hard to dodge.

>>146030663
his summon sign in a white sign, but with mound-maker

you just keep a medium distance and he'll rape everything for you

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DUDE. PARRY. LMAO

Anybody wants to play DS2 with me? I can't run DS3 because lel the graphics are too advanced :^)

>>146030628
Damn, I wish he left your world because shackle.

>>146030367

Butcher's Knife has the highest damage and longest reach but shitty R2s, excessively high stamina costs and a bad WA

Manserpent Hatchet has the exact same stats, same base damage and scaling as the battleaxe, but almost twice the reach. It's the best normal axe. It has the shotel effect with its R2s, but the shield-piercing only penetrates with like 30% of the attack's damage and the R2s are too slow to actually use against a shield.

Dragonslayer's Axe is the twink's wet dream. High Base damage and buffable with lightning split damage. There's no reason to infuse it with anything other than raw. Faith builds can buff it with lightning blade and everyone else can just pop a pine resin or bundle (bundles are super good) to do ungodly damage.

Honorable mention to the Winged Knight Twinaxes. Their L1s do more damage than most ultra weapons but their range is abysmal. Very gimmicky.

>>146029686
>ds2 4k
That makes me happy
Halfway because im currently playing it but also because it got a bad rap when its still really good. Better than 3 and even 1 in some ways

>>146030813
wow that was impressive!

>>146030813
>Reactive cunt shitter talking shit about a parry spam shitter
waw

>>146029860
as much as i liked dark souls 1, i cannot fathom why people would still go play it after dark souls 3 when it feels so stiff

>>146030857
if you drag him to the area with the black knight and shortcut to abyss watchers he'll BC out and his sign will reappear. so long as he doesn't die, he can clear the whole area with you if you refresh him.

>>146030980
what the fuck was he supposed to do?
R1 or L1 into hornet riposte?
Playing smart is playing ''reactive'' now?

>>146029492
Sorry, meant for
>>146028870

>>146031069
Kick, jump attack, throw a fucking firebomb
Nah, nah, better just run away.

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>>146030813
DUDE. ANIME. HAHA

>>146030813
>>146031286
thanks for confirming this general is full of shitters

>>146031016
I get what you're saying anon, I felt the same way when I booted it up to play with a friend, but it sucked me in and now I don't even want to go back. It's old enough now that I can nostalgiafag in tandem with its genuine good points and as such I enjoy it far more than I was enjoying DaS3.

2bh I only ever stopped playing DaS1 because after the Steam move my muliplayer nodes became fucked and I could never play online, and I didn't install DSCM until recently.

Who here watches Criken and Vaati play through Dark Souls 3? I kinda like Vaati when he's not being so pretentious

>>146030391
>Increase stamina/FP costs of repeated use of quickstep WA by 10-20% after each use to prevent spamming it
the simple infusion is already kill and a FP-less quickstep has no iframes
no need for that

>>146031424
You have to be 18 or older to post on this site.

>>146031393
Im the same but with DaS2 instead. Thankfully, it doesnt require mods to be properly functional

>>146031424
I watch this girl OnlyAfro she's pretty obscure but enjoyable

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>>146031241
>>146031358

DUDE JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP HAHA

>>146031424
>Vaati when he's not being so pretentious
I have literally never been able to make it a minute through any of his videos, I don't believe you.

>>146030663
It's fun having him on ng+++ as a cleric build since I can buff him and heal him. Unfortunately if he isn't sufficiently distracted he's likely to suddenly to on you eventually. Hodrick gives no fucks regardless of how much you save his ass.

>>146030961
see >>146029860 and >>146030107
it's the least popular by a long shot

>>146031470

Even with base ATT on a Warrior starting class you can still just quickstep constantly against anyone using anything slower then a Greatsword plenty of times getting hits in with a Bandit's Knife or whatever unless you play super passively to draw their FP out. It is more of an anti-cheese idea I admit though so that's definitely on my low list of wanted nerfs. If nothing else I just want my buff ideas or anymore buffs to through, it's nice seeing people use 2kat/Claws more now so it'd be nice to see that with more weapons.

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>>146031358
SHITTERS
H
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T
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S

>>146031582
It's just a funny playthrough, there's a couple times where he tried to talk about lore and Criken just cuts him off, it's pretty funny.

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If you could invade as an enemy NPC, what would it be?

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>>146031424
His best series since Adventures of Sam B.

>>146031540
I like her legs, she's a qt.

I wish she had at least gone back to 1 or 2 instead of fucking overwatch

>>146031691
Thanks for making sure i knew that, bro

>>146031424

>tfw Vaati and Afro both used to post on here regularly
>now they have shitloads of subscribers and get actual money
>while /dsg/ spitefully curses their names

Is this just the life cycle of anyone who posts here and gets successful?

>>146031821
Dogs to fuck shit up or black knight to actually be the midboss I always dreamed of as an invader

>>146029860
Is there any player count for consoles?

>>146031989
>Vaati
hes a faggot and deserves the hate

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>>146031424
is vaati just RPing as a beta loser?

he kinda seems he has low self esteem in the criken vids.
;_;

>>146031945
np, I'll always be there to remind you how shit your taste is

>>146031989
Did the Risk of Rain devs get crucified by AGDG?

>>146031989
Vaati has always been a pretentious cunt, Afro is alright although some of his later videos are meh tier.

>>146032078
That's what it seems like lol, he's not very good at RPing if he was going for something else

yfw Afro is lurking right now

>>146031821
spooky

>>146032065
>>146032139

What did he do again?

>>146032134

wat

>>146032278
Oh whoops, didn't read your whole post.

I was saying I think the RoR devs over in /agdg/ are still on good terms with that general. I missed the bit where you specified /dsg/ in particular.

>>146031821
those jumpy goat fags

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>>146030813
L2
2

>>146032278
Vaati dindu nuffin he a good boy

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>500 ar at 40/40
jesus christ
buff when?

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Why are desert sorceress so sexy ?

>>146031821
I'd invade as one of those Archdragon Peak Wyverns. It would be fun flying around and firing breath weapons at people. Or the Dune Worm so that I could pop in out and shooting lightning blasts.

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is there any reason to use UGSs or heavy weapons for boss fights in DS3, like fuck
>can only land in 1 hit (2 if lucky) on a boss after he finishes his ability/combo
>can't attack often enough to stagger bosses like nameless dragon or lorian to execute a sweet riposte
>slow as fuck swinging animation
i just finished NG+ using almost only a LKGS and i felt it was definitely harder than it needed to be

>>146032398

Ah okay.

Well, this particular example is /dsg/, but it seems like every general here has that kind of drama.

It's nice to hear that that's not the case.

>>146032608

never you wa spamming retard

>>146032553
retards who parry without knowing what you're going to do are so funny

>>146032398
True, but they do hate the publisher, for a good reason.

>>146032651
>farron memesword
>wa spam

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>>146032632
>can't attack often enough to stagger bosses like nameless dragon or lorian to execute a sweet riposte
You're bad with ultra weapons my man

>>146032608

>it's basic R1s/R2s when 2handed can still be parried

reeeee

>>146032632

Using Great Weapons in most fights, especially late game ones is just torture. I remember fighting Champion Gundyr my first run with a UGS and spamming rolling attacks was the only way I could reasonably deal damage without getting staggered because lol hyperarmor against bosses.

Then I switched to a straight sword in NG+ and it was pathetic how much more damage you can do AND how you can stun most bosses with your added hits. They made the games PvE on Bloodborne paced without adjusting the weapons to compensate.

>>146032651
t. retard who doesn't know what he is talking about

>>146032753

kill yourself you subhuman retard

post a webm of you staggering nk on ng+ with an ultra weapon or literally blow your brains out

>>146031821
Crystal sage in archives.

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>>146032608
LOL
O
L

>>146031821
>2016


>not being a Pontiff Watchdog/Deep Accursed

>>146032608
Probably never because it's a boss weapon with a unique moveset and Miyazaki demands that they be bad.

>>146032824

I kept dying to crystal sage. I was using the great machete. I could barely get a hit in because it was so slow. When I switched to the astora straight sword I beat it immediately.

>>146032869
Why? To disprove something you're wrong about? You're the one getting pissy that you can't use heavy weapons well

>>146033268
you challenged my statement so you now bear the burden of proof

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>>146031821
sup fuccbois

>>146033469
burden of proof is on the accuser, etc.

>>146033507
*staggers*

Any interest in an FC? I could host for a bit if people want to trade off

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>>146033507

>>146033760
I would

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How's this for a regen build?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/45280

Not sure about the claymore, but I thought it would be a fun weapon to try out with lightning/blessed weapon

>>146033760
Sure. Any chance of Untended Graves FC again? I missed the other one.

>this spot marks our grave
>but you may rest here too, if you like
OK, this is officially my favorite boss
He offers to let you "have your rest", and even offers to let you perish there with them

>>146034167
Fug I missed that one too. I can do undead settlement (summon signs where cornyx is found) or demon bridge

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>>146031821
One of these guys.

>>146034167
We didn't have it. I was the anon who offered to but had an emergency.
Will try to host this next weekend, or you can luck with someone else.

ANY PS4 FIGHT CLUBS

>>146034041
You could get higher regen with Anri's Sword + 60 faith Blessed Weapon buff. Not sure how the damage compares to your Lothric Sword though.

>>146034315
I'll vote Demon Bridge then.

Anyone want to post the hornet greatclub bsfisher build? I feel like slamming some ganksquads.

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Ok ladies 'n gents FC is starting at demon bridge

Password dsg as usual

>>146034252

I always thought he was just being a passive aggressive faggot desu

>>146035081
Hope we can make it

>>146035081

Cool, needed an excuse to play 3 right now anyway.

So, the recent patch for 3 did something to fist weapons, it made me wanna do a demon's fist playthrough. Are they bad weapons? What did the patch actually do to them? Also
>nunchuk weapons in soulsbourne when

>>146030980
>Reactive
When did this become a dirty word?

>>146035081
Oh shit I'm on PC too btw

>>146030391
>lower Lothric Knight Sword's AR by 20
This kills the cosplayer.

Theres nothing wrong with them
I use them on my Purging Nun and theyre fun as hell
Its tough landing that weapon art on people though, but its hilarious when you do
The damage is pretty damn great on em too. They do just under the same amount of damage on the L1 as a halberd swing

>>146035746
meant for
>>146035447

>SL120 pontiff
>summoned to a FC fighting some guy
>the guy is the chugging type of asshole that chugs after he gets hit
>swap to gotthards and fuck his shit up
>go ahead bitch, chug some more
>he does, hit him some more, weapon art into his parrying
>go ahead bitch, chug some FUCKING more
>do it
>i know you want to do it, go ahead sip that shit bitch
>keep beating him down
>long drawn out battle because of his chugging, eventually win
>collapse animation, host raises his sword in my honor
>then fight host honorably with my astora GS 2H and win and collapse again

On the one hand feels great, on the other hand why are some people in duels such assholes? It's never "oh, sorry I chugged, my bad". It's always "yeah, I chugged. I'm still coming at you, faggot, what of it?" No shame. In a fight club no less.

It's bad because it needlessly prolongs the match. Even worse with parry spammers wanting more tries at parrying. It's just so fucking lame I have no words.

>>146035856

i bc as soon as someone chugs

and some applause spam before if i have time

Huh, this is the first time I'm doing the Usurper ending. Yuria's tone changes noticeably over the course of the quest. I "married" Anri, and now she's sounding downright reverential.

Jesus christ 50 faith character at sl80 is the most fun ive had in forever

>>146035746
>they do just under the same damage as an L1 halberd swing
Woo buddy, I heard fist weapons were shit but that sounds nice. I guess people must just miss the bone fist moveset, I don't blame 'em.

succ

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Plenty of room on the good ol demon bridge folks

>>146036127
I'll be there soon

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>>146036080
>got one shoted form a lighting spear once

it sure is senpai

>>146030391
>Increase AR of Whip by 40 so 40/40 Spotted Whip doesn't completely outclass it.
Regular whip already has slightly more AR. What does Spotted have going for it anyways? Just poison?

>Reduce wind-up frames of whip
Whips are already top-tier. This would be massive overkill.

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>>146034965

>>146029259
lothric holy sword, if can deal with getting that traded down to you.
I don't know if it's shit though.

>>146036241
>Whips are already top-tier.

just when i thought dsg couldnt outdo itself

>>146036241

Spotted Whip has more damage at 40/40 Refined on top of poison.

Whips are nowhere near top-tier, even the Witch's Locks, as only the WA as a chance of hitting anyone.

>>146036080
This is bait. Fai sucks and so does the level 80 meta. Tricking people into trying to do both is just evil.

>>146036103
Pure Faith mode?

>>146028420
Lothric knight ugs can kill it in like, two charges r2's plus parry.

>>146036084
well, with the demon fist youve gotta build fire damage and str so thats the downside
But honestly, they were shit, but the buff made my demons fist (which i used as an ascetic parrying tool and occasional finisher) to an actual viable weapon. So much so i feel like i should just mainhand this thing

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>>146036472

>>146036235

>hit someone twice with my lightning lucerne
>bait swings and they come a swingin right at me
>poise through their attack and sunlight spear 800-1100 damage
>win

My character doesnt even look strong, just an average joe, and then i shit out lightning to cleave the earth in two, brilliant

>>146036306
>>146036310
The rolling attack is god tier with proper spacing. It has longer reach than a spear and it's fast enough to punish many heavy weapons.

>>146036640

Believe what you will man, theyre fun and do decent damage. What more could you want

>>146036310
>Spotted Whip has more damage at 40/40 Refined
You sure about that?

Maybe mugenmonkey is wrong, but it lists Whip as 307 and Spotted as 300 at 40/40.

>on top of poison.
Is it even remotely possible to build up poison with a whip?

>>146036235
That's the only way FTH wins, first and only time it happened I thought the spear would do 200 damage or so and I could just trade even with his poise. You only make the mistake once though, after that you never lose to FTHfags unless they are using a lightning CCS or similar.

>>146037023
>he doesn't know about the PS spotted whip meta of cal. 1.0-1.16

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In the name of Butcher's Knife attend the FC please

There's a particular looking altar in Boreal Valley, right next to the penultimate shortcut, near the elevator. It's a maiden statue with a vessel in front of it. The statue seems to be holding something invisible.
I noticed this one because there's practically nothing else like it in the level and sticks like a sore thumb.
Is this going to be one of the DLC starting points?

>>146037023

Last I checked it was more, but either way a difference of 7 AR at most plus the Poison the Spotted Whip has makes too little reason to use the basic whip more then there already is with how shit whips are.

>>146036787

Half the shit in this game is fast enough to punish heavy weapons, whips just has a niche of countering great weapons that is also shared by people who run away and cast spells or use bows. It doesn't make them good for 'equal' PvP beyond fucking with people who don't know about them.

Why can my level 20 character invade hosts with phantoms that have end game gear?

>>146036472
>ascetic

ooooh college boy over here~

What level is everyone in the fc anyways?

>>146037292
>making us wait 'till irithyll before we can access lategame content
Hot fuck I hope not.

>>146037023
Have you ever played DS2? Did you not know the bullshit that was poison? or the spotted whip meta?

>>146037346

dude they have downscaled health so its balanced lmao!!!!

>still have 40 end so they can chase you endlessly, and swing endlessly
>have spells you can possibly deal with at that level, along with a ton of fp to cast them
>still have 7 +10 flasks

>notched whip is most likely suicidal as a mainhand
>don't want to cosplay DaS2 Jeremiah

>>146037381

I'm 100 but that's mostly because I like getting a lot of people to fight at Pontiff and because my build is 'complete' without gouging Vigor even more.

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>>146037381
I am not a capable soldier.

>>146037381
I join at low ones to downgrade you.

>>146037381
I'm 120

To be honest if I were 142 I would still get shutdown in FCs because I'm terrible at PvE/P

>>146037480
See you're saying this ironically but I actually don't understand how that's balanced

>>146037485
Witch's locks was included to literally give you a better cosplay that also fits the pyro theme

>>146037429
Boreal Valley is midgame, and it would make sense, since most DLCs are at least midgame.
I'm thinking it's either this altar, or the lone gravestone behind the Church of Yorksha.

Can anyone help me at the Old Demon King boss in smouldering lake? I'm a pyromancer and my attacks do jack shit to his flaming asshole.

>>146037381
I'm 138, but that's because I'm going to NG+15 for DMB
I don't plan on using miracles so I'll dump faith to get rid of the excess points

>>146037589
>cosplaying with the wrong weapon
never

>>146037273
i wish i was good with butcher's, shits amaizing

>>146037652
Use Toxic Mist and Storyteller Staff if you have it senpai

>>146037346
Twinks, or people that got them from friends.
>Invade a gankparty in the cathedral.
>They all have endgame shit
>but they fuckign suck at fighting.
I only lost because one of them nuked me with a Sunlight Spear offscreen.

>>146037671
I meant sorcery
Fuck I'm retarded

>>146037652
Booting up the Iphone 4S

>>146037652

i doubt you have karla but black pyros fuck him up

So if I marry Anri, does that mean his quest is aborted? Will I not be able to help him kill Aldrich?

>>146037675
>never

based

too many faggots cosplaying solaire with their offhand caestus

>>146037762
I have like no sorceries or staves besides the basic ones. But I'll try the toxic mist.

>>146037824

I got the snake spell from the giant skeltal king, I'll give that a shot. Range is just so short though.

>DS2
>find out about the Sanctum Mace
>equip rat ring and the sanctum soldier gauntlets
>equip poisonbite +1 and ring of resistance
>slap on poison resin
>one running attack instantly poisons anyone
>self-build up is completely non-existent

I don't know who's idea it was to give a great hammer parts of the lance moveset and make it poisonous as well, but this is hilariously fun. Why must poison be so garbage in DS3

>>146037763
Is there a way to avoid this? I know the duel meta is 100-120ish, but is there invasion meta prior to Sullyvahn where I don't have to deal with this?

>>146037941
I made one exception for this

In DaS1 cosplaying Jeremiah I would switch the Whip into my left hand so I could parry with it

>>146037652
Raw ASS, dark resin. Or a dark/deep weapon. Alternately, if you've got the stats for it, BK weapons, Farron/old wolf weapons.

>Beating Sully with an Ultra weapon
I didn't knew that was possible but MAN does it feel good to shit on that guy and his stand with hyper armor.

>Xanthous Crown does not boost pryomancy
WY
SUCH A MISSED OPPORTUNITY

>>146037903
Correct

>>146037903
His quest is aborted when that pilgrim murders him and takes him to the tomb.
If you let Anri move from the Church of Yroshka without killing the pilgrim, the quest dead-ends.

>>146037652
Wait till you meet Karla for delicious dark pyromancies, or use the Deep Battle Axe you can get in the High Wall.

>>146038212
Dang. I'd hoped to get some practice in before going it solo, just to see if my build would do squat to him. It annoys me when people put their signs down and clearly have no idea how to play in the actual fight.

>>146038206
Sorceryt got two boosting items that are not rings, it's bullshit.
I hope we get some good shit for pyros and miracles int he DLC.

>>146038206
>headband with little wings on the side is the only int boosting clothing
>it's not the legendary logan hat

Why would they do this?

Hey guys! Peeve is live on Twitch RIGHT NOW

>>146038480
>dusk crown boosts sorceries, you take more magic damage
>Logans hat greatly boosts crystal sorceries at the cost of increased damage taken all around

>>146038401
>summon a guy for Wolnir
>he proceeds to stand under his skull and flail ineffectually until he's killed by skeletal halitosis

>>146038401
What is your build? I could tell you if you're fucked or not

>>146038502
It's funny how little anyone streams dks3 anymore, even twitch shitters know the game is awful.

>>146038502
Thank you, I've been waiting for his stream

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>>146038502

Thanks never seen him play DaS3.

>>146038571
I really wish logan hat didn't have the beak mask on it. I missed the old Big Hat. It would probably be my favorite head piece otherwise.

>>146038947
>tfw have to wear it to be Eileen
>no crow mask worker hat
this had to be intentional on too many levels

>>146038646
if streamers now this game is awful, why don't they use their status to sway the balancing team into fixing the game's issues? They already listen to them, shit a lot of them got the game for free.
How hard can it be?

>>146039106
The only streamers that FROM would listen to only got their five minutes of fame from PS4's japanese release 2 weeks before everyone else got the game

>>146039170
I don't know, if there's enough disturbance from the streamers, they might listen. They fixed a lot of DS2's flaws, so I am convinced they aren't entirely belligerent.

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HE ACTUALLY GOT A PARRY AND RIPOSTE

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN

>>146038646
Twitch shitters thrive on challenge runs and competition

DaS3 is super easy and has no replayability, so challenge runners are dead, and its pvp is a joke so competition is dead.

The only reason DaS2 ever had life on twitch was because the arena gave tryharding some legitimacy, and a quick way to find one another for relatively consistently decent fights. Pontiff's is like the bridge in 2 in that it's 99% the bottom-tier players too awful to invade so 99% of fights are awful, too. The lack of an arena literally makes it impossible to make a successful stream off of dueling alone, and dueling is the only form of pvp that's "competitive" in the spectator sport sense of the word

>>146038441
>Implying sorcs even want to use those items and it's not forcing us into it

>>146039106
Streamers know the game is awful and endorse it anyway, they need to.

If you become a streamer because of a certain game, you HAVE to stream that game or your numbers will plummet. You can't just wander out of the niche you cater to, you're pigeonholed into it to keep the subscribers and donations flowing.

tl;dr
A lot of streamers hate the games they play,and are just as honest as IGN reviews are.

>>146039410
DaS2 streaming died almost as quickly as DaS3 did though.

>everyone is running into the corner of the wall during fc
Well this is strange.

>>146039616
It will probably go up as soon as the DLCs start to drop.

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>>146039721
FC culture

>>146039817
VIRTUAL RAPE

What other games does /dsg/ play?

I'm feeling really bored of DkS3, there's nothing left to do

>>146039473

Speedrunning is pretty much the only big stream culture left interested in 3, and even then only Distortion puts forth real effort to improve the time. The recent Irithyll/Farron Tears of Denial skips are gonna bring some brief life to extend it.

>>146039904
Memwatch
Killing Floor
Dark Souls 1
Darkest Dungeon
THIEF series and Metro are what I'm working on finishing at the moment

>>146039904
MGS5
My FOB got thrashed hard in my downtime.

>that perseverance faceoff
Amazing, that made my night.

its hilarious how many guardbreaks you can get in low level invasions

so many shitters just hold their shield up whenever you are near them and you can just stance - r1

>>146039989
I never really understood the speedrunning community, much less people who actually actively watch it.

I mean sure it's cute to see someone do a bunch of tricks in a run, but how could you actually watch someone do the exact same run 15 times in a row?

>>146039904
unironically picked up DS1 again because of the restart event and had some good invasions in Anor Londo
also finished The Order recently because I got it cheap , don't get if you can't get it for cheap though

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>>146040338
The hype senpai, too bad speedruns in 3 are shit

>>146040338

Because it's a display of technical skill and precision in a game compared to most streams which have varying degrees of 'skill' and can show efficient ways to beat a game using mechanics within it.

>>146040420
I dunno anon, I don't really get hyped up when someone beats the WR by .005 seconds or whatever. Even if I found it interesting, I'd rather just watch the WR break video after the fact, I don't want to see the 48 hours of ingame time that led up to it.

So close

I even got a backstab too

>>146040627
Im not always watching the stream, Ill usually have it on in the background and check occasionally

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Ok ladies 'n gents FC is over. I have a backlog of animated eastern russian comic strips I need to watch

That doll skip is beautiful
Hope it doesn't get patched or anything

I'M SO SORRY SAMUEL

not really though

>>146040307
Yea man, totally caught me off guard.
Not used to fighting people with that weapon.

GG, Next time I'll beat ya!

I'm all for succeeding at DS3, but I seriously think Hidden Body needs some kind of nerf, like more magic consumption. I waltzed through that entire jailer section, stealth killing everybody.

>>146041165
>Hidden Body needs some kind of nerf
nobody fucking cares about meme spells

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Farron or Woof Knight GS?

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Christ, Torm, as soon as that Sunlight Spear hit I was done for

I didn't see the poise aura, gold invader aura to hide poise casting new meta?

>>146040908
Danke for hosting

Wow I wish Fextra had some actual editors on staff so I would know Eygon dies after Dragonslayer Armor, I could've ended my game with firekeeper Irina but now she's just frightened because i purchased deep protection and gnaw.
Now to dump VIT or something so I can carry this and a greatshield.
Sure it says to loot his corpse at Irina's original location, barely on the weapon, now but not a week ago where it said I MUST kill Eygon.

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>>146040960

>>146039904
team fortress 2
csgo

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Tell me I'm mad or taking the game too seriously, but after a certain point, even while playing for laughs, this ganking shit is getting old. It's sapping any entertainment out of the game for me and fucking rampant online.

Who does this? Why? The creative ganks are actually an entertaining way of griefing, but the past hour I've been summoned RSS into games where the host and his two buddies just push my shit in, gesture and react like assholes when I send any messages. They aren't even mean, just "Hey, summon me again and I'll just 1v1 one of your friends then so on."

I don't get it. I feel like I'm playing with edgy teenagers that think this shit is the pinnacle of entertainment. At least there's the satisfaction of stomping gank squads.

>>146041287
>actual editors on staff
top kek mate

>>146039904
For versus I play Street Fighter V and Overwatch
Single player right now is Wolfenstein TNO,

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>fuck up yoels quest line
>go ng+ to finish dex/luck/hollow build
>bleed fuckin tastic
>sprint through bort, great dickweed, on my way to crystal sage
>see holy night godricks summon sign in ros
>remember all the footy of people getting basically 1 shot
>scared.jpeg
>bleed him dry so fast he can't even sip

Disappointed desu. What ng cycle does he get silly retarded ape strength in?

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Tfw the last good souls game came out 5 years ago

>>146041706

bleed basically destroys every single npc invader without effort

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>>146041706
NG

But because of the fact you're using one of the most retard strength builds in the game I fail to see how it's valid

>>146041260
Unfortunately you'll never fall for it again. Unless I wait till the dlc comes out and pray you forgot by then.

>>146041363
what SL are you invading? at 120 I pretty much only get gank squads, had some more luck with a SL 70 lately when I tried to get some more variety

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>For this character's NG+ I'm gonna stay Embered and Dried Finger'd with WOB on so Darkmoons can get some action
>Go through High Wall, Undead Settlement with barely more invaders than usual, three Darkmoon summons in total
>Get to Crucifixion Woods and Farron Keep
>Another red/purple/furfag every ten seconds as me and my latest bluebro slog our way through this hellish swamp
>Constant 2v2's and 2v3's
>Same invaders keep invading me and black crystaling out
>Mages are actually useful in PvP since invaders tunnel me and they can cast freely

NOW THIS IS PVPING

>>146041232
pls respon

>>146042089
this is on PC ofc*

>>146041706
For Hodrick, just charm him and he goes stupid trying to recover for the rest of the fight.

>>146040959
what advantages does it give you?

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10532664
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>>146042117
Farron GS

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>>146042331
thanks bud

>>146042089

SL120 PS4. I still had this issue earlier in the game too but it is more prevalent in later levels. It's just fucking boring getting ganked every summon or invade.

>>146042323
>people not voting link the flame
I didn't know how pathetic /dsg/ really was until this very instance

>>146042286
Well you don't need to kill crystal sage or deacons so it's good for speedrunning
not sure how it would interact with the main game but due to the bonfire warping I imagine there's no real loss
It also adds cathedral of the deep as a fancy looking FC/event location without barring yourself from irythyll

>>146042441
linking is for dummies

>>146042441

t. frampt the cuck

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>Trying to imagine DS2 enemies with the agressive DS3 movesets
>Alonne Knights now have evasive maneuvers
>Syan Knights now has back sweeps
>Heide Knights, Stone Soldiers and Horseheads now have long strings of combos

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>>146042708
>Smelter Demon is now as fast as Pontiff Sulyvahn

>>146028178
All I ask is that they remove the silly ass phantom range on ss, adjust stamina consumption on great weapons, and maybe unfuck hammers. I don't use them but it's hard to fight someone that you can backstab punish just from them swing their weapon and not feel bad

Also if they could just leave bleed the fuck alone that'd be great

>>146027325
Dubs picks the character I use for this playthrough of Dark Souls 1. So far the only character I beat the game with was a high Str, high End knight

>>146042817
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
no no no
no

>>146042943
>>>>/Reddit/

>>146042983
>implying
You can't get dubs on 4chanks

>>146043038
check these trips faggot

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Goddamn I think I just had the best invade ever. Perseverance + ToD is amazing.

>halfway keep
>host and two summons are sitting up on the side that has the ladder
>one other red phantom just BSC out after seeing this
>I stand there and one white phantom is kind enough to just 1v1
>keeps gesturing through the fight and the host and other summon spam "HEY"
>start fucking him up badly
>host's summon mage starts firing shit at me while we fight so white summon can back off to heal
>lock down and kill the twat, heal behind a tree and rush the mage
>goes down like a sack of fucking bricks due to no hp
>host turns and starts running
>keep tapping him with attacks as he runs
>he goes to the ladder
>kick him down the fucking hole
>HOST OF EMBERS DESTROYED
>send "More summons, please." to host
>Host: "Oh piss off dude. Caestus is OP."

>>146042817
>Sihn has a second phase
>stops flying but he thrashes about like Amelia and Oceiros
>All while a cloud of toxin surrounds him

>>146043130
>Caestus is OP
He must be from /dsg/.

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>When the Wood Grain Ring +2 is the last ring you need for the Master of Rings/Dark Soul cheevo

Why do these even exist.