The best edition, Edition.
>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4oluw4/dota_2_update_main_client_june_17_2016/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/id/RequiemOfRose/
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/
>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
https://www.reddit.com/r/dota2/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui
>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/
cont
>>145828641
is AUI_2000 a CÜCK ?
what the fuck why did the other thread get deleted
why mods forced us to move to tiago thread
POST YOUR FACE WHEN THEY DO IT FOR FREE
>>145830059
because tiago is a janny
>>145830059
Because this thread wasn't posted early.
>>145830098
>>145830086
L TO THE FUCKING MAO
SUCKING A BLACK BULL DICK
FOR FREE
>the janny shitskin exposes himself
LMAO
ARE YOU A RIOT SHILL OR SOMETHING AS WELL
THANKS FOR THE BUTCHERED OP JANNY
>tfw I play CARRY Abaddon, CARRY Omniknight, CORE Jakiro and I have above 70% win rate with all of them
>tfw my now 51 wins / 16 losses CARRY Abaddon is the best CARRY Abaddon in all the /d2g/
>tfw that equals to a 35 wins to 0 ZERO loss ratio
>tfw you shitters will literally never be as good as this game as I am despite going full try-hard while I literally play casually in VERY HIGH SKILL BRACKET with one hand behind my back, literally: http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1869884763
>tfw once TI6 is over and a new patch comes out Abaddon will be top pick again
>tfw I am the true chosen by the mist
>it's a gaben range bans australia episodehttps://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/4om5jh/steam_is_disconnecting_whenever_i_launch_a_game/?sort=new
>jannies are doing it again
>>145830264
So here you go mongoloid, for future reference you'll get the idea of how to build a position 2 CARRY Abaddon:
Start off with a ring of protection, two branches, some tangoes and a mana potion.
Your CARRY Abaddon is going to be a position 2 or even 3. You're never going to be a position 1, dude. Keep that in mind.
Build that basi ring next, get that fuckin' magic wand and some phase boots. Take that basi ring and turn it into a Vlads, and rush a fuckin' S&Y.
After this it depends how the game goes,you can just go a fuckin' basher and run to people and bash their fucking face if you're ballin' outta control and expect to finish early, or you can go Skadi into a AC.
If this goes really late, finish that fuckin' abyssal and after your skadi / heart + AC you can go MKB for the damage.
Max the shield first, 2 points into the passive, max the heal, finish the passive. Always max the ultimate whenever the chance.
If your team is fuckin' kuso ass shit, as they usually are, sometimes it's actually naice to build a aghanism instead of a skadi or heart and go for a AC after, because with the aghanism you can actually stop those shitters from dying.
NYAHOO!~
doturds of the galaxy
Boring thread desu.
Why does Lina look thicker in the casino game?
>>145830264
>>145830423
"Janny" is a slur and it needs to go, NOW.
"Looks like janny deleted another thread for free."
This needs to stop.
I've gotten used to 4chan. I even find some of the lingo funny now. I lurk in a ton of threads and actually enjoy them. But this term is bothering me to the point I'm willing to be flamed to say something about it.
"Janny" is a slur. Period. In my view it is every bit as bad as the N-word. And yet I see it used all the time in /d2g/ and other boards including by some posters I otherwise respect and enjoy interacting with.
I know what the response to this will be. "It's 4chan, what do you expect", for one. I don't accept this. Inane is fine. Hateful is not. I've got no problem with taking shit and even a little bit of banter from time to time - basically, stuff happens. I just think that we can do this without crossing the line to hate speech. I was actually very proud of our community that "weeb" has largely replaced "animefaggot", even more so because people have turned it into something funny. I hope we can do something similar here.
Slurs based on race, gender, nationality, or salary have no place anywhere, including in our community. I hope that our moderators and janitors will join me in deleting and banning for use of this and similar terms. Thanks for reading..
>>145830458
It's not Christmas, DOTURD.
It's fucking Summer.
>>145830578
Time to get fit then, DOTURD!!!
>>145830650
would lick her toes desu
>>145830680
What are you implying?
I already am fit, dudester.
>>145830680
>doturd spammer is a normie
reee
>>145831040
Kill urself, shitstain.
>>145831040
>you need to be a normie to be fit
lol keep telling yourself that fatass
>>145830343
based gaben
>>145831067
shut the fuck up norme
>>>/reddit/
>>145831202
im not fat but normies fucking trigger me
So this is what happened all week when I've been away?
Freakin' DEAD CITY, man.
Like holy shit.
Turns out I didn't lost out on anything, LOL
Ok so I went with carrot cake, hopefully it doesn't turn out awful. I don't have the best luck with carrot cakes in the past.
>>145830871
99.9% of the time anyone who jerks off to asian girls is an obese neckbeard
>Pick Alchemist mid because Solar Crest quest
>Enemy has Exort Invoker mid
>I didn't get my 0:00 bounty rune because of them contesting but still had greevil's greed level 1
>Doesn't matter that Invoker has more base damage, I can zone him with acid spray and then grab aggro to last hit
>Doesn't matter that this guy was denying at least two creep waves, I was stacking my own ancients and farming them with acid spray
>They didn't block the ancients until the 16 minute mark, at which point I had farmed the ancient camp at least five times
I mean fuck dude.
>>145831652
kys, blogshitter.
Why is TA the cutest hero in the game?
Why does the game have an overlay over the top of the series score? Do people not know what the yellow bars indicate?
>>145830376
Vintage
reminder to buy hurricane pike on weaver
I've always wanted to be Tresdin's squire. I always enjoy fantasizing about entering the fountain with her after a long battle and slowly removing her armor, starting at the helmet and making my way down to her boots. The embarrassment I feel doing this in front of other female heroes only adds to the allure of the situation. She sits down on a stool and commands me to kneel down and remove her boots one at a time. "Is that a boner?" Rylai says. Akasha licks her lips, Rylai giggles, and Shendelzare glares at me. I try to cover it up out of embarrassment, but Tresdin kicks my hands away. "You haven't finished yet." I don't understand because I had already removed her armor, but after she gives me a look I realize that she wants me to remove her shoes as well. I take off her shoes and reveal her gorgeous feet, surprisingly soft despite her being a strong warrior, and extremely sweaty. "Lick the sweat off my feet, squire," she commands me. I hesitate for a moment and look over to the other girls. They all start giggling at me and whispering. Then I feel Tresdin's foot forced into my mouth with the other one covering my nose. The smell and taste of her sweaty feet causes my raging boner to grow even more. "Alright, squire, stand up and remove your clothes." Although embarrassed, I take all my clothes off. Suddenly I feel my position swapped with that of Shendelzare. Suddenly I'm lying beneath Akasha and Rylai, who had both taken their boots off, and were pressing their feet against my member. "No," Tresdin said, "He's mine." She runs over and gets on top of me. It's only now that I realize that she's holding Aghanim's Scepter, and I understand that nobody will be able to interfere with us. Her technique gets more and more intense until I am unable to hold back. I cum inside her pussy with the force of a hundred megacreeps. She gets off of me, and as I lay there quivering in pleasure she gets dressed and begins to chuckle. "Only 9 inches? Pathetic."
best prismatic gem color for tb arcana?
http://imgur.com/a/nwpHH
personally it's creator's light
>>145831615
this desu, it's why i jerk off to anime girls
>>145830343
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN DID IT
Couldn't handle the banter lads.
>>145831502
damn i cant find something in this post that can be filtered
>>145832165
Like, sucks to be you, broduder.
remember when 2014-2015 dota kids made fun of our guy n0tail?
remember when 2014-2105 dota kids were riding eg / secret's dick?
of course you remember
2016, what a time to be alive. best dota year yet and we are not even half the way in it
>>145832027
what if you don't have two rapiers and two daedalus's?
>>145832349
niceme.me
what went wrong d2g
>>145832656
memeback
>>145832656
People didn't pick CARRY Abaddon.
why cant i use au servers
>>145832835
gaben rangebanned aussies
hiroshimoot is coming for you next
>tfw lost passion for dota
How do we fix him so that people will actually bother playing him?
>>145833092
Just buy more Battle Pass levels.
>>145832257
Yea, 'like,' is pretty good didnt notice it before thanks akhi.
>>145833130
make his familiars pierce bkb
>>145833130
+1 soul assumption max charge per level of ultimate
>>145833130
grave chill now stuns the target repeatedly for 0.4s at a time
familiars reduced to 75 mana cost 30 cooldown and given 700 attack range and 1000 hp and don't lose damage per attack
soul assumption now nukes at global range
graveskeeper's cloak remade into 7 other ultimate skills
is there a MEME BUILD?
>>145832027
>blademail one hit off
>ghost scepter the rest
How do i Tide solo offlane.
I understand i should take time to stack ancients but i have such a fucking hard time when im actually sitting in lane
>>145833421
-1 armor per hit from familiar too
stop being fucking obese you guys
>>145833130
familiars back to four hero hits to destroy
aghs also decreases cloak layer recharge time to 1 second
will meme magic help liquid this tournament?
>>145832835
here is my other summary
au servers are back now god bless
>all this final fantasy discussion in the /d2g/ chat
Are weebs finally taking over this general?
Can someone tell me the interaction between bloodthorn and PA's crit?
>>145834068
the larger source of crit overrides the lesser one
>>145834068
If you have 2 crits with different values they function independently, but if both proc at the same time it will use the higher damage crit.
what if there was magic crit
>>145833130
-Grave chill also grants the bonuses to familiars
-Gain a soul whenever gravekeeper cloak gets completely removed.
-Gravekeep cloak now grants 3/6/9/12 hp regen per second
>>145832053
>implying i can afford that shit.
does it affect the colors of your skills tho?
>>145834437
>leshrac_face.jpg
What if there was a combination between veil and aether lens?
>>145834521
>Gravekeep cloak now grants 3/6/9/12 hp regen per second
when at full or per charge?
>>145834556
not sure about his first skill but it affects his illusions and the sunder chain
his footsteps change color as well
>>145834580
what if aether lens was toggle-able to make it increase AOE by 100
>>145834692
>when at full or per charge?
Per charge would mean 60 hp per second at level 4
>jerking off to the new Liru shit
>ehome v bheart on my second monitor
>end up looking at the game during my vinegar strokes
>came to sven hitting radiant top
heh
>The bounces deal 65%, 42%, 27%, 18%, 12%, 8% of Luna’s original attack damage.
Is luna's moonglaives underpowered?
Compared to cleave it seems underwhelming
Can ursa manfight sven?
>>145834851
Yes.
>>145834826
she is a ranged champyon
>>145834851
yeah
>>145834826
it'll be changed soon
what mmr is zai? how the fuck can he play pudge so easily wherever he is? nobody is even trying to walk in a non-straight path and they constantly eat the simplest hooks
>>145833130
Completely rework him into braindead instakill carry like everyone else obviously.He's actually really good, the buff where his birds need autoattacks to kill removed like 75% of his hard counters. It's basically just Gyro, Medusa, and Luna.
EXPLAIN THIS DOTARDS
ALSO I'M GIVING AWAY THAT WR SET
>>145834826
what if it started at 8% doubled
scaling increased to 130%
>>145833480
Only do it if they have two right clickers and no real amounts of magic damage to speak of.
Ward so you don't get your ass ganked.
Clear a wave with anchor smash fast, go stack, then come back in time to get at least 2/4 creeps. Just soak exp for level 3 and only last hit when it's safe before that. You only need 1 point in Gush honestly I'd almost say stats are better than Gush levels past 1.
what if luna's aghanims was remade
now her glaives never stop bouncing
damage reduction from 35% to 35%/30%/25%/20% per bounce
>>145834826
Hell no, those Glaives do massive amounts of damage nigga. Fastest way to rax someone is Luna + illusions.
>>145834929
>she is a ranged champyon
And so?
Gyro and Medusa actually deal more than 65%.
>>145835506
>Heros niche is only good when winning
wow
How do you pick your hero if you're trying to raise MMR? Do you pick the same hero over and over? Do you pick first and hope your team doesn't sabotage the team composition? Do you wait for last pick and counter pick? I feel helpless no matter what I try.
What heroes are good for raising MMR right now?
>>145835638
troll warlord
>>145835587
Gyro is a worse late game carry and Medusa is a walking turret that can hit a whole team for reduced damage while Luna is a hard late game carry that can hit one target super hard and anyone nearby for a still large chunk of damage while also nuking them with a spell that does 20k magic damage.
>>145835638
Nipple Lina.
>>145834725
okay now im a little interested, are there any cool ones for cheap?
>lucent beam damage reduced to 100/150/200/250
>lucent beam gains 75 damage at night and .5 second bonus stun
>lunar blessing global radius at night
>eclipse night duration increased to 10/15/20
>eclipse beams to 6/9/12
>aghanim's eclipse beams to 8/14/20
>aghanim's eclipse no longer that cast range cast on the ground thing, now centered back on luna
>gives her flying vision at night
desu imo this is way too strong and she will be a hot meme pick but I like the hero
@145835756
This is bait
>>145835934
I don't think the flying vision at night will ever happen since that's nightstlker's thing
desu imo desu imo desu desu imo desu luna doesn't need a buff, everyone else needs a friggin nerf the power creep is way out of control
>>145836089
nerfs aren't fun dummy
>>145835934
just give her ultimate a stun like the lucent beam
hell, you actually have to level lucent beam(independent skill) for that shit to do damage
>>145836089
>>145836204
>dota imba isn't a "what if" custom games, it's the future of dota
>>145835638
go mid any hero that can carry early/mid/late
LUDWIG WAHLBERG
>>145836324
gimme a cherrypicked match ID sniper-san
I've been seeing Alchs skip the radiance and get bfury again, whats the better Alch build?
Used to go Armlet > Radiance > BKB/SB/whatever > Octarine.
>>145836409
yes?
>>145836324
match id?
CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY I HAVE 100 WINS BUT ONLY 99 ARCANA POINTS ON PA
WHAT THE SHIT GABE GIVE ME MY FUCKING SWORDS IVE SPAMMED THIS HERO FOR FUCKING AGES NOW GIMME DAT SHIT SO I CAN NEVER PLAY HER AGAIN
how2fixtb
>conjure image now summon 1/2/3/4 illusions
>illusions deal 80% damage
>illusions take 220% damage
>75/125/175/225 mana cost
>130 cooldown
>>145836324
whats your build senpai?
>>145835638
Don't pick right away. Pick a hero you are good and successful with.
Get good with at least one from each role so you can have some options depending on what your team needs.
I use Slark and Ursa for carrying
I like viper as a semi-carry/tank
I use lich, Dazzle or Venomancer as supports
>>145836636
yeah just give him a fourth ultimate that'll fix everything.
seriously though that would get something nerfed in a big hurry. that's called breaking not fixing anon
>>145836683
>slarkursavenodazzleviper
yes ur the cancer
>>145836562
It'll be posted to reddit tomorrow im sure
Godlike pudge plays on his stream a few minutes ago
would you put your fireballs in lina's flame?
>>145836840
it just works
SORRY IM NOT AMERICAN!
>>145836418
>>145836594
>>145836656
2437103275i always go mid though
>>145837408
thanks brah
>In a 3 stack at the loading screen
>Our 4th has a Spanish name and no icon
>Dodge and reque 4 mins later
>Next match is a Peruvian 5 stack with 3 of them having no steam profile set up
>our 5th is an over aggressive Spanish Tiny
Call me back when Peru sinks into the ocean.
No passive-aggressiveness allowed by Riot
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4ol8no/riot_banning_toxic_players_faster/
>>145837739
they're certainly trying their hardest to remove any sort of fun to be had in their so called game
>>145837739
why don't they just remove chatting entirely
I believe they already have a chat wheel
>>145831794
Her slow is bugged ever since they buffed it. It no longer increases the longer the trap has been up.
>>145837739
Would be nice if there was a system like this in dota
>trying to do evasive action
>pick PA
>max blur first
>dodge 19 physical attacks in a 40 minute game
How do I do this quest if RNG literally wont let me?
>>145837129
that sounds pretty hot
>>145838019
That shit is like only 30% after 0 seconds though no wonder I lost last game.
Why the fuck did you not just back after taking the rax?
>>145838578
zzzzz
>>145838561
you can wait an hour, it will be 30%
good buff Gaben
>>145833130
Let AUI build him as a carry with AC again.
>Overwatch is officially more popular than League in Korea
I thought Overwatch was supposed to die dotards? But now its the most popular esport in the world?
>>145838941
Koreans have the absolute worst taste of any nationality on earth, by far.
Not really unexpected that the game does well there.
Fucking HotS is doing well there.
>>145839064
this. Anyway LoL dying in korea is a good thing
>>145839064
Why HotS and not LotV?
>>145838941
It's >fun.
But I think the real reason is that when you're in a dota/lol game, and you're losing and your team are insufferable morons you've got to sit for 40 minutes of misery or cop the abandon.
In OW even if you get shit on, it's 10 minutes tops. Your team dying and being shit doesn't make teh enemy stronger and I feel I can have a much larger impact in OW than dota. You can switch heroes and do what needs to be done.
Also, OW's scoring system is genius, no matter what you're actually doing it feels like you're raping everyone.
>>145839194
>>145839148
>>145839141
Why is dota not played much in korea? Is ´´koreans are the best gamers in the world´´ just a meme?
>>145838941
>korea
>world
>>145839194
this desu
even if you get raped you can just change to a fun hero like tracer, ignore the objective and dunk shitters for laughs.
>>145839314
LoL was too big, everyone into Mobas played LoL. But with SEA's recent rise, we'll see more korean teams make the switch.
>>145839194
Even if you loose in overwatch an individual can still excel, or just have a decent time. Dota is so heavily team dependent that one fuckup player can drag the whole team down to the point where they spend half the endgame dead and get crazy outfarmed.
In other words, you can sort of 'carry' an overwatch team. You cannot carry people throwing beyond control in dota. That's what makes dota both the best game, and the most uncontrollably rage inducing game.
>>145839314
dota takes time to invest
they want the easily digested casual shit
proven by how the population prey to K-pop
basically
>pop culture is shit
>tfw people don't (You) my bait
am i losing my touch?
>>145839476
but then why is Overwatch more popular than LeL now?
>>145839537
because overwatch is overshill?
whatver the shit thats being broadcasted onto the korean television is what get the kids to switch
>>145839537
Because lel deleted soloque and solo ranked. you can only queue in parties or something like that
The poster a few posts up almost got me, but I'm keeping all my (You's) for my waifu.
>>145840072
wait what
how
>>145840072
I think you can q solo, but you get matched with parties.
Am I the only one worried by the lack of progress on this new challenge?
>>145840072
They didnt, its similar to dota in a way, only thing is that solo and party ranked give the rank towards the same thing, theres no party and solo mmr like in dota and you dont get matched with solo's sometimes just like in dota, that its 5v5 all solo, theres always one or two premades in both teams
Literally lost a game from start because thinker started whining that he needed a mid ward when they had no gankers at all, since he had no mid ward he started feeding storm spirit from min 1.
Anime avatar ofc.
If i was on a lan or i knew who he was i would disfigure him, i swear.
>>145828529
Kill yourself.
Enjoy your ban.
>>145840194
don't worry in a week if we haven't made enough progress valve will throw out some shitty clicking thing
The reason its slow is because 80% of people still forget scan exists and 50% of the ones who remember it does only use it to scan rosh pit which doesnt work
>>145840314
To add on top of it he's a fucking muslim named mohammed in the razer zone group.
Fuck this game, i will pay 40€ if it gives me region lock and avoid to play with russian or muslim subhumans.
>>145840265
to clarify this
solo mmr + party mmr= one thing
which basically means its gonefuck off riot shill, whatever the fuck you are defending
>>145840558
muslims are the best dota players, you're the subhuman here anon
How to make weaver a viable hero in 6.89:
>Geminate Attack cooldown from 6/5/4/2 to 6/4/2/0
how did 322 beat liquid and fnatic?
>>145840641
Im not defending anything, just clarifying things
>>145840409
>warn team they're offmap
>no reactions
>tell them who I think they'er going to gank
>no reactions
>scan the jungle next to that teammate
>it goes red
>no reactions
>wtf no wards gg shit team
How do I fuck my waifu Spectre, /d2g/?
She doesn't have any apparant genitalia. Do I just like ask her to go down on me? What if she asks me to return the favor? Where do I put my tongue?!
>>145840683
Hello mohamed, how's life in iran/uk/germany/sweden?
>>145840686
What if germinate attack had a 5 second cooldown for all levels but came in charges and each charge gave 1 additional attack and you got 1/2/3/4 charges?
>>145840683
>techies
>max W
great muslim players
>>145840764
>posting ugly fat spectre instead of actual RIPPED spectre
Be gone with your headcanon.
What if you play bloodseeker as a pseudo-lycan?
He has +40% damage against towers and he can run away fast.
>>145840928
>transdimensional energy taking corporeal form
>being ripped or fat
you niggers are retarded.
traxex best grill.
>>145840314
>>145840558
dude I had a tinker with an anime avatar who had 4500 mmr, but started yelling on mic "HAHAHAH FIRST TIME TINKER HAHAHA" and took the bounty rune from our mid alchemist then started fighting him for mid, then went offlane to die 3 times.
All game he spammed mic, fed like 0 - 15 - 10, and btw his average gpm on his profile is 250.
We fucking won, this piece of shit gets a win, because I carried hard enough
How come I don't get carried like this when I have 0 - 15 and 200 gpm?
Today is International Sushi day.
Be sure to enjoy some sushi while playing dota today.
>>145841048
Who gives a shit about your blog? Are you a muslimg trying to tell us how good and peaceful you are? Just fuck off holy shit.
>>145840974
Cant farm as fast, cant splitpush as fast
>>145840974
who's going to damage the enemies for you to run away fast?
>>145841147
Necronomicon.
>>145841136
Battlefury.
>>145841114
are you literally braindead?
>>145841048
>average GPM is ~510
>average XPM is ~570
>stuck at 1250 MMR forever.
Pretty sure avg GPM doesn't mean shit son.
>>145841210
this is such a horrible idea
"battlefury"
lol, go fucking do it
>>145841320
there's a diffrence between "I suck and my gpm is still ok" to "gpm doesnt mean shit"
no one who is good will have 250 average gpm, this isnt possible
>tfw 4.7k mmr
it's happening friends
>>145840974
anybody can push hard. Thing is heroes like naga and lycan can push two lanes at once
>>145840370
What's the matter, dudester?
Are you perhaps feeling a bit anal ravaged?
Chillax, man.
>>145841441
dedicated position 5 player.
>>145841741
Their gpm isn't that low
and that tinker wasn't a "dedicated position 5 player"
>>145841741
Even they should get above that, especially in the trench. There's always opportunities to farm here and there, and if you are in teamfights you should be getting gold just for existing.
>yfw you realize oracle is a dominant mid hero
>>145841841
Lesnarposter is that you?
>>145841679
don't forget alch, though his gimmick is the other way around using that retarded manta/octarine stuff because chemical rage is so fucking stupid broken, and greed works with illusions.
>>145841883
That's clearly not Brock Lesnar, dude.
>Play 6 games today
>Every single game AM and PA are banned.
TRENCH SHITTERS PLEASE
REEEEEEEEEEEEE LET ME DUNK YOU WITH MY ABILITY TO CLICK CREEPS BETTER THAN YOU
>essence shift steal ends when slark dies
>wards no longer deactive regen on ult
>slark night time vision to 800
There, fixed slark 5ever.
>>145842015
get fucked
Why does every good/decent play in pro games get treated like it's HOLY SHIT WHAT AN AMAZING PERFECT SHOCKING PLAY THIS IS "THE PLAY" OF THE MILLENIUM WHAT A PLAYER WHAT A GUY with youtube videos made about it with dramatic music?
>>145841943
That is not what I am saying. I was thinking Lesnarposter uses Lesnar for terroblade and other wrestlers for other heroes
>>145842160
>I was thinking Lesnarposter uses Lesnar for terroblade and other wrestlers for other heroes
This is legit autism right here.
>>145842154
You say that as if there hasn't been "amazing PLAYS" videos with Linkin Park soundtracks over them since 2002.
>>145842239
I mean casters and comments everywhere always treat it like it's fucking AMAZING when someone does a good play, like everyone is 1k mmr shocked that you can click buttons a bit fast
>>145842280
Oh, that is because most of the "casters" are mostly clueless retards that might actually be worse than the average gulagite.
>>145838941
>people that eat dogs should be considered at all related to video games.
Praise me senpai!
>>145842440
Fuck off, cuck.
>>145842440
what part is supposed to be impressive?
>>145839314
Koreans aren't that good at videogames. They only win so much in videogames they don't have competition in.
>SCII
>wasn't taken seriously as in esport in the west
>taken very seriuosly in Korea
>Korea master race
>LoL
>Riot has shit international competition
>Korea overtakes everything
So yeah, it's a meme
Can slark outfarm AM?
>>145842280
>>145842154
>hur dur why are casters doing their job
>why they hyping a casual play for a casual league2.0 huhu :(
>why won't they cater to my super advanced autism xd
>>145842096
but your mum is busy tonight????
>>145842619
It will be really close in a regular game, but if we have a hypothetical game that goes on infinitely, AM will come out on top.
>>145842536
Not buying dagon 5 :^)
>Zai on Support
>Fear on Carry
is there any chance that NA doesn't become the first region to win back to back TI?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/4omxfi/i_just_got_the_jackpot_24000_for_linas_fireballs/
Dotards? Has anyone cracked this shit yet?
>>145841841
I have 10% win rate on him. Won my only match as mid with Dagon rush. Cuck life won't make your team less retarded.
>>145842154
Lots of people trying to get youtube jew gold
>>145842830
They're gonna get meme'd on in the open qualifiers
>Zai only joined SingSing for 2 games
J U S T
>>145842861
cracked what
>Want to climb MMR by playing carry mid
>If I don't fucking instalock that shit as my first pick and open myself up to 4 counterpicks then someone else takes it from me and proceeds to feed/itemize improperly
How the fuck do boosters convince people to let them last pick carries/mids? Do I need to lie about my MMR and say I have some 6k or 7k alt or some bullshit.
>>145842861
you realize the result is determined the minute you hit the button
>>145843013
brood
>>145843013
The 3DPD.
anyone have pics from the commerzbank arena yet
>>145843023
you put your hero icon on mid
mute everyone
and go mid
if you are not trash you'll climb easily
>>145843013
what does it mean if I didnt get any reaction down there out of this?
>>145843158
Which mid hero is the best for climbing?
>>145843158
That's the thing though, any mid I pick if I pick it right away is open to four fucking counterpicks.
If they all choose to counterpick me because I have a strong hero (and this has happened before) then there's not much I can fucking do, as nobody else is capable of stepping up and carrying despite their lack of direct counters. I'm basically fucking myself if I pick it first.
>>145843224
whatever your good at
its more of a playstyle
in low mmrs you basiclly just ignore your team, farm, and then farm the enemy retards then end the game
>>145843282
>counter pick invoker
Literally how?
>>145843282
it doesn't matter if people "counter" pick you
9/10 you don't even understand if a hero counters you and neither do they
very few hard counters in this game and they become even less in low MMR
Which hero would be a rapist in real life?
>>145843381
kotl
>>145843358
Silencer, Nyx, Void, Lifestealer, even shit like Lion, and Naga to a degree. If played well.
>>145843360
This is fucking 4k MMR, it's entirely possible to get shut down by 3 competent counterpicks.
>>145843148
a-anyone
>>145843191
It means youre a girl?
Why would you even not get a boner if not otherwise
>>145843381
sniper would throw shit in your drink and peep you while you're passed out
ho ho ha ha
>>145843518
>got shut down as invoker
You belong there.
>>145843518
4k is trash
maybe you belong there
like do you except the enemy to pick zero stuns, zero aoe dmg so you can pick meepo and steam roll them? counters are a park of a game and a good player is able to play around them
>there are russians in this thread right now
What ever happened to that system shock shodan announcer pack?
It looked so good.
>>145843740
[–]pripyat_beast 1 point 2 months ago
We have the first 350 lines recorded, it's just been taking WAYYY longer than expected. We are still working on it though :)
>>145843740
can you put it in a chest so people can gamble on it without it seeming out of place?
didn't think so, into the pile it goes, gotta figure out how to jew people with it
>>145843797
I remember when they thought they were going to get it out for TI5It's still going to be sick when they drop it on the market.
esports is on
>>145843854
>It's still going to be sick when they drop it on the market.
>shilling on d2g for your own anouncers
you dont have to stoop this low
>Redeye
>Manlet
>Grandpa
>LoLfag
What a panel
Alright, ESPORT shit is finally on.
Reminder that you shitlords are posting in MY thread.
So I'll have none of your fucking 2k MMR blog shit here.
If you even consider posting about blog shit, just fucking kill yourselves already. Nobody gives a shit about why you keep losing at DOTA, you fucking loser trash shit.
All posts from here on in must be either DOTA or Anime related.
I'll have none of the rest. So now, enjoy ESPORTS in this thread all THANKS TO ME, shitfucks.
>>145843854
>>145843928
I'll buy it day one regardless of shilling.
>>145843717
And mohammeds.
>>145844089
I'm gonna wipe that smug look off of your face with my dick
>>145844089
I don't give a shit you anime posting fuccboi.
You'll listen to my 2k blogs, and you'll fucking like it.
>Be me
>be 2k
>be posting this thread
>get killed because I was alt tabbed
FUCKING GABE
>>145844089
trump 2016
>>145844089
shut up degenerate greasy manchild
>>145844158
GAAAAYYYYYYYYY..........
>TI6 QUALIFIER *TALENT LIST*
>There is no talent
?
>>145844089
>pick phantom assassin
>enemy has lifestealer
>blink on his rage
>crit his little skeleton asshole
>rinse & repeat
nice game :D
>>145844189
What's your point? Trump supports Anime.
I know you two are here
>losers bracket advantage
What the fuck is Nahaz even saying?
>>145844089
Animeposting is a Reddit meme.
>>145844158
>>145844171
>>145844189
>>145844191
>>145844263
>>145844330
Easy fuckin' (You)'s.
Awwww shieeeeeeet.
>>145844308
people misspeak, it happens. it's not the same as seriously thinking your statement is correct.
>miracle is GOAT meme
maybe if they win TI and then continue to perform like this for another year. otherwise it's hard to separate him from his team's ability to support him.
>>145844372
I you you, you you me. It's a circlejerk. I'm sure you're familiar.
>NA getting cucked by Euros (DC & Col)
lmao, can't make this up
>>145844372
I got two you's from that post, can you guess which 2 posts are me?
>145844493
I'm not going to (You) you, you fucking cuck.
Stay a loser forever.
>>145844495
>cuCOLds
>cucking anyone
>>145844479
Yeah it's funny how people are like "holy shit m god how can you have so much gpm"
meanwhile he's just freefarming because of his team
>>145844532
That's easy, you're >>145844158 and >>145844263
>>145844301
that trash itembuild, tell me they lost
>Open ESL stream
>It's Redeye
Fuck's sake.
>>145844692
>i hate redeye
is fata going to play for liquid or is he sitll ill?
>>145844479
>>145844612
if i didn't know better, i'd say OG was winning because of a strong team performance along with strong individual performances
>>145833130
turn him into a girl
>>145844723
Not that guy, but I'm kind of tired of seeing him already.
Does DOTA have no other good Panel Hosts or some shit?
>>145844796
there was this one guy who got fired
>>145844796
Apart from the ass, it's Sheever or Kotlguy.
VG or CDEC?
>>145844675
>trash item build
It looks trash but it isn't if he does the double echo sabre thing
>120 mana burn damage
>195 pure damage
>3 divine rapier hits
That's like 1200 damage in half a second
>>145844862
>it's Sheever or Kotlguy.
Fuck that shit.
Whatever happened to that Chobra chink dude anyway?
>>145844796
I mean, maybe kotlguy, but he's like a shitty james
pretty much no
Miracle is honeypot.
Every mid or carry ever has been a honeypot.
Real reason is usually in DELICATE and ACCURATE shotcalling and supports. ALWAYS.
>>145843013
going to need sauce on this familia
>they don't build rapiers on dusa
>>145844914
Working for Blizzard mostly.
>>145844914
>>145844796
hi tiago
why no reaction images?
>>145844796
James but hes in heaven right now.
>>145844675
>>145844896
>>145845014
HEY, NO BLOG SHIT, YOU SHIT EATING SHITLORDS.
Get rid of shitposts with this one trick shitposters don't want you to know!
http://pastebin.com/hpD72ABp
Secret confirmed NA
>>145845039
I didn't felt like posting any.
Why?
>>145845097
Someone actually made a pastebin just because of me?
Whoa...
STREAM FUCKING WHERE
ESL YOU FUCKING FAGGOT JEW KIEKESSSSSS
>>145845014
>manta
LITERALLY
WHY?
you are gaining nothing but fucking stats with that, the active is useless in that game and costs you more mana than you get from the entire item in one use
like just get a fucking skadi or a linkens
>>145845139
WOW somebody actaully PRESSED THEIR KEYS ON THEIR KEYBOARDS AND MADE SOMETHING ON THEIR COMPUTER BECAUES OF ME
MY GOD
THE EFFORT! IM A FUCKING SUPERSTAR WHOA
>>145844641
wrong
awoo test
>>145845097
Does this filer your image as well?
Can mushi go fuck off somewhere already? he's behind his time, and his drafting is so stupid
>>145845195
heheheh
Well just so you know, dude-ster.
You can't really filter me no matter how much you really try.
hehehehe
Stay shit forever.
>>145844846
you mean the one who said "cunt" a lot as a substitute for following dota? haha, ebin xD
>>145845097
>filtering
Hello red-it.
>>145845175
>he doesn't body block with mantas
>>145845014
>zero base dmg, nothing to dispel, lets build manta
>also grats on getting carried by pudge
Who is that guy next to redeye?
>>145845175
>you are gaining nothing but fucking stats with that
illusions get split shot
manta isn't a great first item but it does have synergy
>>145845097
i dont even understand half of these filters
>post steam
>adelaide
>nth for
like what
>>145845014
>sf on enemy team
wow, you got a free game, well played!
I can literally build rapiers on crystal maide and win if sf is the enemy mid
>>145845056
I miss him so much, lad.
SNY is better than Manta on Dusa.
She needs intial tank more than the shitty disjoint usually
Hey!
who the fuck is this brownie???
>be bane
>my carry locks drow into brood
>goes 0 - 5, i have to save him from feeding fb
>tinker 250 gpm
>lone druid afk farmed until we lost
>was at one point 500 gold from radiance but he STOPPED FARMING once our high ground was being pushed
what the fuck did i do to deserve these retards
>>145845554
wheres the nose ring anon
>>145845610
>ME GOOD
>TEAM BAD
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>145845530
just build the skadi at that point
>>145845671
Skadi rush is pretty hard to do, Yasha improves your farm speed a bit.
MANILA MASSACRE
>>145845456
wow, your two shitty no damage no hp no mana shield illusions get -25% split shot 0 rapier damage shots? what value!
>>145845504
Yeah, he picked after me, so I couldn't go for clock mid
>me with the Vlads mask on the left.
>>145845605
that's the greatest thrower of all time bamboe, master of the game losing play
Its over
Fatard still has a horrible fever
Which champ is this? ???
Honeypot LAN
>>145845665
i didnt claim i consistently outclass people at my mmr, but there are some games that you just cant win
>>145842052
>>essence shift steal ends when slark dies
it already does you monggoloid, stop giving opinions when you dont even know jackshit about the hero
>>145845805
shadow demon?
>>145845706
no it's not, you farm fast as fuck and get kills pretty easily. it's pretty common to get it around 20 minutes even after getting like a maelstrom or drums 1st.
>>145845805
isn't that Traxex, the Drow Ranger?
>tfw you captain a bunch of pub players down 2 sets of rax and win
>Redeye calls Maelk a lolcuck
>He just wriggles in the stage and says ''yeah''
Cuck
>mom
>vlads
>dominator
I wonder whos on top.
why does nahaz keeps saying the manila massacre. doesnt he know about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_massacre
>>145845892
Dominator, obviously.
What is this *PANEL*
At least get fucking Black^ in there? He was at once in a tier-1 team and won international LANs.
Jesus Chrrrrist
WHO FOURTCH REICH HERE?
>>145845883
HE IS SWEDISHmaelk award exists for a reason, 0-20 and still win
>esports not going on
>all the subhuman 3k mmr roaches leave from under their rocks and blogshit about their ooga boogas
Will they ever learn no one cares about their pathetic 3k games?
>>145844675
Because we outroamed them, i was ogre and we had a bh aswell, it was an easy game, they put trio lane with spectre there and nobody did shit, puck offlane didnt die once to them
>>145845937
Arena shooters are shit espurts. How are the communities in all the other blizzard games doing? Is Babby's first TCG still on top?
>>145845845
every game is winnable
>>145845937
>an extremely accessible game for the lowest common denominator which that has been hyped to death by everyone is more popular than an extremely unfriendly to a new player game like dota 2
Wow dude unbelievable
finally a true german on the panel!
yo guys i just beat my highest mmr record (4731)
how shall i celebrate besides more dota and beer?
>>145846150
nice job dude
>>145845973
that salnt eye nip is lucky the cancer got to him first before i do
>>145846150
delete this u racist!
I forgot how bad most LANs are after manila & epicentre.
>>145846076
OW isn't an arena shooter thoughit's just shit
OH SHIT A REAL LIFE FEDORA THIS IS NOT AMERICA
>this fucking guy again as host
>>145846248
well quipped my man
DANKFURT
USA USA USA USA USA
I hope Fnatic loses
>>145846095
you are either very new, baiting, or the scum of reddit.
>>145846264
who is he?
>It's non-pinoy crowd episode
get your salty shit out, boring as shit crowd.
>>145846303
You're just bad at dota my friend
>>145846150
delet this!
>>145846248
It is an arena shooter, it is unreal tournament with micro transactions and more game modes.
>>145846119
my main problem with that game is that there's even less variety than HoTS and that had jack shit
>there aren't enough maps
>they don't rotate the maps properly, one map or another is heavily skewed on certain days
>they seem genuinely scared to balance the game
>there aren't enough characters that matter
>there aren't many good hats eitherdota
>>145846150
with a loss streak
fnatic gon lose this can we move on to next match already
>>145846150
You wil never get 5k
Every time I get close I fall harder than icarus
I have a few more charms from last years goypendium. I haven't played dota in a while and am in the trench, what's the surest way to win?
Our boys got this
All this shade
>>145846150
Why do I find dead eyes like that so hot?
vidya games
>>145846452
go in the /vg/ chat and wait for someone to mention an abuse lobby
THIS PANEL FUCKING SUCKS
WHAT THE FUCK, DUDES
>>145846076
>>145846119
>replying to the same shitpasta that has been posted on every thread for a month
how low has vg fallen? is there any non-retard left here or everyone jumped to reddit?
>>145846493
mist videost toi o
>>145846350
ok, everyone below 5k will just fucking play until the ancient breaks regardless of how many godlike streaks the enemy has. it's not until after that players start to consistently just sit in the fountain after they get too far behind. good players know when to stop.
also after that they stop fountain diving and buy desos and shit form enemy fountain to just end shit faster.
fuck off you 4k garbage.
>>145846336
fuck pinoys
>>145846375
It is just more proof that blizzard is now bankrupt in talent. It sits like a fat bloated slob at the top of parts of the games industry crushing creativity and talent.
https://discordapp.com/invite/0mLOn1WddjrAQMhA
Wow, this guys discord is fucked now lmao
When will tournaments stop bringing Nahaz in there
Literally worse than Sheever, at least Sheever understood 2k MMR dota
Nahaz doesn't udnerstand anyhting
>>145846542
I'll do it this week if I have time, thanks anon
>>145846551
>esports on
>retarded 2k streamcucks out of the woodwork
gee wonder why
>>145846556
It's from Team Liquid's youtube channel, quite old video IIRC
Does Maelk hate bamboe or something?
>>145846635
He understands having gray hair at 30
>>145846575
that's a lot of words to say "i'm in denial about how shit i am"
i love watching those fucking nerds on the panel being cringe as fuck
it literally feeds me
>>145846635
>Literally worse than Sheever
There's no such thing.
>fata playing
why did i bet on fnatic
>>145846734
>le cringe
hello redit
YO WHY THE FUCK IS THE CAMERA ON THE OFFLANE HEROES
>>145846575
I think it's that good players aren't idiots so they assume the other team are also not idiots and won't throw away a huge lead, because they wouldn't. Meanwhile bad players assume everyone is as unthinking as them therefore anything can happen. It's like the Dunning-Kruger effect.
That said huge comebacks do happen even in pro games so you might aswell play even if you think you've lost. Sitting in the fountain doesn't really accomplish anything.
>German lan
>feel like drinking beer
>Liquid playing
>feel like eating snickers
fug
>>145846783
whats this cow name?
>>145846701
one more (you) for the road, you happy now?
WHY IS FNATIC DOING A LIQUID DRAFT AND VICE VERSA?
>PA
>>145846575
>everyone below 5k will just fucking play until the ancient breaks
Actually yeah, they do.
The bullshit you mention (fountain farming, afks at fountain, etc.) happened in less than 1% of my games.
>Phantom Assassin against Tusk+Dazzle+Slardar
LMAO WHAT THE FUCKCCCCC
kotl is seriously OP
>Liquid memedrafting again
Apologize.
>>145846575
>everyone below 5k will just fucking play until the ancient breaks
Unless you have that fucking idiot EE or RTZ in your team they will
God the dota culture those two feeding fucks inspired is the most cancerous thing in 6k MMR and above
Dotards?
BASED BLITZ AND TOBY
AFTER HORRIBLE FIRST DAY
MY FUCKING DIIIC
>>145846946
Honeypot lan
Nice crowd dotards. lmao.
>get to 4.5k by playing support/offlane
>Check out the profile of the enemies
>They're all mid-mainers, palying the most unimaginative qop/storm/jug/slardar
why do people with no imagination think they have skill?
>>145846979
Is there nothing more beautiful than watching a team implode from within? To see it tug this way and that until at last it bursts, unable to contain all that tension anymore. And to know that it happened because of your own most subtle of gestures
Truly a beautiful thing.
>>145847020
PA IS MY BAE
>>145847146
I fucking hate being in same team whenever he queues EU
Literally can't find more scared and useless player thb
>>145847146
It's only beautiful when it's a shit team like EG or Secret.
Blitz is fucking shit.
>>145847210who are you
>>145846825
it lets the game end quicker without having to abandon.
depends on the game though, but most pubs are one sided and the team that's lost doesn't know it half the time. the lower the mmr the worse the denial.
that being said don't do it if you still have all your rax (unless it's some kind of shitshow where it's like 30-5 or some shit)
>>145847248
That's a Megumin!
>>145847234
I had completely forgotten he was going to cast after manila. I hated nahaz so much I could atleast mute the stream and enjoy the actual cast, BUT NOW I CAN'T DO EITHER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>145847248
That's a Megumin
>>145847248
are you cute
>>145847273THE PROUD LORD SAID
>>145847318
>>145847323
>>145847136
because it beats pub retards
>shallow grave has been used defensively
When the fuck did Toby get so shit, man?
How the hell do you even use shallow grave offensively?
What the literal fuck.
>>145847273
A dotard that spent nearly 10k hours on doturd withotu coming pro
MUST
NOT
REPLY
This crowd is boring as fuck, this production is shit.
There's already a bindable camera positions. Atleast get a rune cam.
>>145846095
no the games where enemies are playing better than you are not winnable fuckface idiot
What are we watching?
>>145847437
there is nothing defensive about a graved huskar tearing your team a new one for example
>>145847521
You can read when someone picks up a rune
Is Ohayio a pseudo-weeb name?
>>145847568
Esl, obviously
>>145847569
>tfw no Ghost Scepter Huskar
so much free mmr
>>145847569
Are you a fucking retard.
The spell itself is a defensive ability.
is reaching 6k and above really that hard?
>>145847617
youre retarded
>>145847667
It just takes time.
>>145847617
but you can use it in an offensive play. not hard to understand the different situations.
WHAT THE FUCK THAT OMNI JUMP
DOTARDS?
just tuned in. did I miss any memes?
>>145847554
so play better, retard
>tfw watching dota makes you want to play dota
>teammate pick ant image
>no surrender button
Even if we somehow manage to win its not fun when you are literally forced to be a cuck.
why did liquid go 5 memelee
>>145847757
>tfw playing Dota makes you want to kill yourself
>>145847727
>tfw i made this webm
You didnt
Im getting so triggered by mushi going for a linkens in this game.
What the fuck is up with that guy?
>>145847770
Whenever a teammate picks SF or AM I just take something that can steal farm from them and hope I can win 4v5
>>145847727
Dankfurt
>not going SNY+Blademail in this game as Dusa
Guys i've been visiting london for the last 5 days without internet. what tournament are we watching?
Any stomps/good games I should rewatch?
Thanks my fellow dotards
Have a nice day everyone
>>145847775
WHO IS THIS CUTIE???
I HAVE TO KNOW!
>yasha before bf
ok what is this meme? is it really faster than rushing bf after aquila?
>>145847751
I see you need some sense beaten into you the hard way little fuck so you wouldnt want to anonymously post ego boosting shit on image board
>>145847814
It counters Diffusal, means they can't purge your Mana Shield.
>>145847578
>you miss a kill because you can't look at both runes when they are both contesting top and bottom.
Fucking S H I T production.
>>145847930
>It counters Diffusal, means they can't purge your Mana Shield.
Are you fucking stupid
>>145847909
You generally do not want to guy bf first on PA. BF on her is more for the cleave crit than farming.
>Linkins Medusa
explain this
why does tober sound like he is not there
>>145847997
100% wr so far , why change the build if you haven't dropped a game with it?
>>145847814
stops pa spells or alch stun
not super terrible honestly
What is the best jugg build?
>pick PA
>lose
>>145847879
ESL Frankfurt; you're not really missing out on much.
>>145848105
>bfury PA
>lose
>>145848098
sny skadi
same as always
>>145848138
What about
meme saber
malestrom
mjolnir
and then skadi/sny
apologize
>Pick Dusa
>Lose
>>145848127
Did secret qualify at least?
fnatic literally shi t
>be linken's medusa
>do literally no damage
>a 4 second cooldown spell pops your linken's
>die
Linken's Medusa.
>Medusa does damage
-/d2g/
medusa is the worst hero in the game
she's not fun to play
and she's trash
who the fuck wants to play medusa? why?
>>145848187
Nope. Neither did EG.
ebin
it's okay Jug will get 28 kills because the hero is that good :)
is our le balanced quarry settler gud this patch?
Apologize
>>145848184
For what? I don't think anyone disparages FATA all that much
>pa is bad
-d2g
>>145848243
>medusa is the worst hero in the game
OBJECTIVE LIST OF THE TOP 5 WORST HEROES IN THE GAME:
1. Tinker
2. Kunkka
3. Razor
4. Broodmother
5. Sniper
>>145848280
>badSven
>>145848338
>2. Kunkka
b-but sleeper OP support
>>145848338
Where's shadow demon aka badEuls
>>145848338
all of them are more fun to play than medusa and potentially more useful, besides sniper
PAJKATT KNOWS
>>145848383
this doesnt even make any sense
there aren't any spells for Linken's to block and there's nothing for Manta to dispel
go SnY Skadi and you might actually do damage
Is there anything a Linkens + Manta Medusa can't do?
>>145848437
even worse is the jug going manta lmao
>>145848371
Kunkka is stuck because he's too potentially OP as a carry to be buffed to being viable as a support
>>145848448
Damage
>>145848105
PA is best girl
>BTS inviting 2 no name female casters because muh diversity.
Honestly FUCK LD, IF YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH YOU'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
>>145848480
I want to impregnate Llama
>>145848480
did BTS invite Sheever though?
Does Radiance miss chance work during Omnislash?
>>145848480
LD just knows what leddit wants the most
fucking shekel genius
>>145848480
Jew habits die hard
>>145848480
>Implying it wasn't the horny Aussie golem
>>145848520
you're not there so you're not affected
what if we change medusas 2nd skill with this:
for a certain amount of time gives 44% move speed, mana regen, ability to ignore terrain and destroy trees it its path
would that be good?
>>145848480
>only upset by the talentless no name women when there's also shitty talentless no name men
>People still think Manta Linkens Medusa is good in 2016
It's all his fault
>>145848338
better list:
1. Shadow Demon
2. Kunkka
3. Troll warlord
4. Arc Warden
5. Pugna
>Tobi is 30 years old
do you think he's a wizard?
>>145848570
it was
never
good
Bloodstone Medusa
>>145848614
He did drama before dotes
Drowning in that puss
>>145848634
R-Tard tried it and it never worked.
How is spirit breaker allowed
I think mushi is insane..
You can't do the same build over and over and expect different results.
>>145848513
Sheever is acceptable tier though, The other 2, Literally who?
>>145848564
Yeah I don't know how Maut and Grandgrant make it.
>>145848570
Who is that?
>>145848690
GranT is the realest nigga in the NA scene
>>145848710
>>145848551
What about positive buffs like Vlads? Do they not work either?
why does Liquid never pick ranged heroes?
>>145848810
because they're manly
>Fnatic in charge of damage output
WHY IS MEDUSA PICKED ALL THE TIME WHEN SHE LITERALLY DFIDNT WIN A SINGLE GAME YET
HOW WHY ARE DOTURDS THIS RETARDEDF
>liquid winning with an all melee draft
jesus benis
JUST IGNORE THE MEDUSA
It will never EVER matter how many data points there are. There will always be retards, a dedicated core at every level of play, that will continue purchasing shitken's sphere on medusa. And a smaller core that will ALWAYS do it with manta.
>Medusa
>doing damage
LOL
WHY DO PROS NEVER GO SNY MKB MEDUSA BUILD?
LINKENS RUSH IS LITERALLY THE MOST USELESS SHIT.
>Meme Assassin and Rikimemu are winning a match
Alchemist seems pretty balanced and hard to play
>>145848810
tl;dr melee heroes get ehp (armor evasion raw hp) so that they arent """"worse""" than ranged heroes
that used to be the case when blink costed a lot of mana to even use and all you could hope for is running like a madman at the ranged carries hoping you wont lose too much hp
thats not true anymore and now you essentially have this:
heroes with free ehp
heroes without free ehp
and thats an easy choice
>mushi needs to rape ya wthis game
wtf????
>>145848852
linkens is good sometimes
manta is never good except if there's some really annoying silence that you REALLY need to purge
>>145848872
she benefits far more than most heroes from +% mana/hp regen
>>145848774
Im really not sure about that one, i think they do
>>145848872
Dragonlance MKB > SNY MKB
what should have mushi built instead?
>>145848090
>stop a single dagger
>its back up in a few seconds
Nice 5k gold investment
>>145848954
ring of repick
>>145848954
yasha skadi mkb
>>145848954
yasha>skadi>mkb?
>>145848954
skadi
>>145848954
skadi mkb bkb
>>145848950
>not MoM bkb rapira
>>145848614
i bet you the aussie shitter is riddled with stds
>buying back and running in to Liquid one at a time
>medusa
>mkb
>"I MUST GET OUT OF DIS SMOKE"
Gj mushi
prophet here
This is how non icefrog balance team is going to buff medusa
100% damage on splitshot
Split arrows apply attack modifiers
>>145848950
Well I did the SnY before DL got introduced but that can work.
>>145848954
sny or dl > mkb > skadi > butterfly > replace sny with anything else.
biltz and tubby look even fatter
is it the camera or just fat?
>>145848954
dragonlance sny
>>145848935
>linkens is good sometimes
No it isn't. Medusa is a shit splitpusher and should always be with teammates. Those teammates should be building linken's or lotus orb (which is generally much better than linken's for "TANKY" things). Mjollnir is typically much better.
Eul's is literally a better item choice for purging silences, since it also gives mana and a way to stop tps. Not that I am saying to buy eul's that is just how shit manta is and will always be on medusa.
If you really have something nasty to remove with low cooldowns you can just buy a diffusal blade. Its a "cost efficient" eaglesong even though the mana burn will be mostly worthless on you.
>>145848935
but why is it good?
becuase it gives you some shitty regen?
why linkens is amazing on weaver:
>your linkens is popped
>QUICKLY I WILL PRESS MY HASTE INVIS SKILL OR IF THAT FAILS THE FREE AEGIS SKILL AND TRY TO GET OUT
linkens on medusa:
>your linkens is popped
>you stand there becuase you are an immobile tower like creature that just wasted 5k gold to get some stats and regen
linkens is a really good item on heroes with mobility that can just fuck off when its popped like weaver storm ember etc
on immobile shits like medusa its fucking useless ASIDE from the regen and stats, but they are NOT worth 5k gold since the active on medusa does literally nothing at all
>>145848936
no she doesn't lol. raw stats is what it's all about, the +15 is the real treat.
>be 2k
>perseverance keeps me from going to fountain as early so it must be good
>build it on everyone
>blame team when I lose
mfw
>>145848954
Sny, skadi, mkb
>>145849069
>SnY on ranged hero
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>145848936
Dusa needs just the initial tank. You can get your mana to full with Mystic Snake spam. If you really need HP regen buy naked RoH
when do the good teams play
>>145849043
>gyro becomes second worst hero in the game
>only second because nothing can ever be worse than tinker
>>145849135
Open qualifiers:^)
>>145848129
>bfury pa
>bad
Literally every pro goes for a bfury on that hero and there is literally no argument against it except from bitter cuckports that feed early game and blame their carry for farming. It has the same reasoning behind it as it has for am/jugg/whatever. The fastest farm accelerator for a farm dependant hero that makes you hit your peak earlier. Especially important on pa because you wanna hit your peak before enemy cores got mkb.
tl;dr git gud
>>145849081
>>145849086
>linkens popped by initiation
>ult
>walk away
doesn't work when the enemy can spam shit at you
>>145849135
Adelaide I want to kiss you
BAMBOE CONFIRMED READING D2G.
does style marketable? If i unlock the style for the quest set, does it affect when i sell it in market?
>>145849192
this desu
also critting whole teams to death when you've got 2 rapiers
Has Maelk applied paint to his eyebrows?
>>145849213
w-what now
>>145848570
me on the left
>>145849124
literally viable
>>145849086
I only build linkens on dusa if the enemy team counterpicks bat or doom or beastmaster after my pick so I don't get fucked and don't need to rely on my team to bail me out.
this is the only time you really need it, when you can get fucked hard by 1 spell
you pretty much never want it though if you can avoid it, since you need skadi because it makes you fucking unkillable and fucking un-kite-able with your ult on top and you need some damage after that expensive money sink instead of poking everyone till they die.
lmao d-dead game?
>>145849134
basically medusa shouldn't make anything with a recipe at all prior to like the 30 minute mark, because she benefits SO much from stats and in particular from +all stat items like ultimate orbs.
but the farming temptation behind linkens is because without +hp regen you can't tank jungle camps as effectively. speaking as someone who literally only goes yasha lance skadi manta MKB.
what ifgreaves > skadi dusa
So why arenty you guys mentioning Milk ufcking dying his EYEBROWS
fucking weird lmao
Is Phase -> Yasha -> Bloodstone -> (damage item) bad on Dusa?
Bloodstone is just really fucking good and i really enjoy having it on her
>>145849192
You can blink strike on all ancients now but retards will still call it bad.
>>145849192
but they dont?
bfury used to be the build on pa when she was good, now that she isnt good top players try very different things
the build i see the most so far is deso with like a vanguard or something, in short they try to make the most out of dagger now since it applies your every orb etc
>>145849335
Get Morbid (can get to Satanic), or RoH (somewhat efficient) or bottle for HP.
Hell you can get Helm of Dominator and dominate that HP satyr
>>145849337
still better than linkens manta
>GSL brackets again
Who thought it was a good idea to keep doing this shit?
You could just have a full double elim for roughly the same amount of games.
>>145849360
gives 0 damage
>>145849327
>le epic riki crowd maymay
>>145849353
I knew something was off
>>145849335
Build a hurricane pike. Cheaper than linkens, you get regen, more damage, forcestaff and a range bonus.
>>145849360
bloodstone doesn't help you farm or do damage and in combat regen isn't as good as just getting stats.
>>145849405
Phase and Yasha both raise her damage though and speed up her farming
>>145849405
Well you have Yasha and Phase.
Besides, that's why you go immediately for a big damage item like a Daedalus or MKB straight afterwards. Still better than fucking Linkens Manta
>>145849335
no, you use mana shield and the fact that you're a ranged hero to tank what little hits you get for you.
also any satyr camp is free mana so you just throw snake at it and farm it in 2 seconds (and refill your mana if you're low). mud golems are the real deal though, get the 2 low so they can get killed by snake and it'll jump to the mini golems and you get 6 jumps worth of mana.
>>145849360
If you have another damage dealer, like Ember Spirit, Drow or Sniper with you. It won't speed up your farming to get past the AFK farm stage and if the enemy team wants to push your shit in, you can't really threaten them with anything but snakes.
Navi will destroy VP right?
>>145849360
bloodstone is the clan iraq build
i dont remember exactly what items he gets but i do remember seeing Beesa go for bloodstone radiance on medusa
>>145849448
>>145849456
yeah but then you have a fucking bloodstone on a fucking medusa
your build is shit, just get fucking SnY Skadi
>>145849493
VP looks like shit, Navi has their moments
>>145849493
they do not deserve for the rekt
>>145849262
anyone? I'm grinding for the quest set and just want to sell it later on.
>there are people who follow CSGO aka cheater's paradise
>>145849531
of course it will make a difference but it will be in the same listing
you will have to know how to find the ones unlocked by searching for them so i doubt they will be worth that much more money
>>145849375
I completely disagree la.
lifesteal is only really good when you have a lot of damage and it doesn't restore mana shield; bottle is for heroes who can go for runes safely; roh doesn't build into anything except linkens.
Medusa needs a team to make space +stack for her while she rightclicks creeps in a lane between tping to fight. it's boring but that's what the hero is.
>>145849493
>tfw VP is dead
where did it all go so wrong ;_;
>>145849636
delete this
>some shitter builds Hurricane Pike + Deso on weaver, skips linkens
>lose game
please get me out of this fucking 2k shithole
>>145849327
slacks mentioned earlier crowds aren't allowed to sit at higher seat, only at lower ground
>>145849619
some fucker ruined my quest and pushed me back to 2 star on last ursa quest
i'm planning to grind the quest just to sell it, are you sure the style wont worth that much?
>>145849663
>that feel when watched them beat and eliminate Team Memecret last year in-person at TI5
I still remember that guy a couple rows behind me hanging over the doorway VP exited and entered the arena from and screaming "VIRTUS PROOO" at them over and over
>>145849636
For someone to have noticed this, they would need to have had the stream open during the analyst desk. ISHYGDDT,
>>145849719
the abuse rooms have like 5k people in them at all times meaning literally hundreds of thousands of russians already did all the quests
honestly if you JUST want some more money you are wasting your time doing the quests
>>145849753
i'm looking to make back the money, at least the initial 10$ on battle pass
planning to keep all treasure i have and sell it like 6 month down the month, getting 1 - 2 $ per treasure pretty worth it
>>145849636
He looks like CGI, wowsers
whos the shitskin?
>>145849823
brits are robots
>that fat guy on Liquid closest to the camera
I didn't know Hiko also played DotA
Ive been out of the loop for the last week. there were even MORE EG/Secret roster changes? I thought they were locked for TI6?
>>145849663
This. Holy fuck, this. Look at this roster, just look at it. You can't get more perfect than this.
I'll hate G and FNG for eternity for the shit they pulled last shuffle.
How to memedusa:
Go mid, max snake, stack own ancients, goal is to max split shot seconda and rice hard
>phase
>aquila
>iron talon
>radiance
>bloodstone
>mjollnir
>octarine
>skadi
Basically unkillable because of bloodstone mana reg and octarine magic lifesteal
Coupled with good aoe damage in a mix of physical and magical damage
>>145849910
they both are now in open qualies becuase they both placed last at the last major
>riki's aghs
>towers don't see you and attacks don't break your invisibility
y/n ?
>Pick Slardar
>You're not Loda
?
Bounty and fucking Slardar.
Whoever picks for fnatic is retarded
Have there been any cuties spotted in the crowd at ESL?
>>145849936
I like treads better because you can cast snake on int and receive on agi, then
>aquilla
>mom
>bloodstone/skadi/sny
>mkb/daed
then whatever else, y'know?
>>145850036
gotta counter the riki lmao
sentry wards should be indestructible
y/n
>>145850020
looks like Naniwa desu
>>145850085
Go to league
>>145849821
the only thing that'll be worth anything is the one III chest you get. all the rest will be pretty common and worth nothing outside of right after when it goes up on market.
if you're gonna sell your shit do it right when it goes up on market and try to be one of those lucky fucks that jews one of the impatient idiots.
really though the only way to get shit back is getting lucky on the cm wheel, then waiting until like right before the fall major when the prices of all sets recover a bit and sell them.
>>145850039
yes
>>145850085
No. Stfu and go back to LoL with your dumb ideas.
>>145850113
>>145850132
is that how they work in league?
last time i played (2009) that hey like 20 health
>>145850125
swift as the ayys of lmaowrack
>>145850125
that's a man baby
>>145849991
dumbest shit i've ever heard
no.
>>145850125
That nose is bigger than my whole head lmao
FATA IS LAUGHING
>>145850125
DELETE THIS ITS HORRIBLE
>>145850157
It's not, but the idea is LoL-tier
>>145850125
i recognize that shnoozle from somewhere
at least post the cute blonde with the braces from last year
fix qt elder abomination hero
>Bounty Hunter
>Shadow Shaman
>Ursa
>>145849910
Zai and Universe to EG, Bulba to Secret. Both are going through the open qualifiers for shuffling during the lock.
>tune up
>nahaz being a contrarian
ru stream for me it is
>>145850036
told you mushi drafting is pure shit
>>145850125
Who?
Who's the third caster? 7ckingmad?
Today after a good winstreak i have had 3 games in a row where i was setup to lose, people leaving after they get ganked because "i am so mad xD", people feeding if the support doesn't ward the exact spot he wanted, etc.
Shit like this didn't happen in 30 games, after i got my rating up with a win streak it feels like i have to lose. It's not 1 random match, it's 1 game after another where i am getting paired up with people that have 30% win rate or something.
>>145850347
paikat
>>145850347
officer pajkat
>>145850370
welcome to multiplayer team games
>>145850347
Mad is French
Am I remembering it wrong or was Frankfurt last year a lot better than this shit?
>>145850405
>>145850401
Thanks guys
John Connor... it is time.
>>145850475
it gets better towards the end of the tournament because more people show up. until then it's all "daed gaem" posting.
>>145850424
It feels like a fad that game developers have been picking up in the last 5-6 years. Matchmaking is set up so that when your win rate goes too high you get with people with win rate too low to "balance" things, everybody wins.
>>145850475
ESL Frankfurts
2015 > 2014 > 2016 so far
>>145850475
>>145850512
i miss him :(
>>145850124
which one is better, sell it right after it's marketable or wait 6 month down the line?
>>145850561
that was 2 years ago
>>145850370
this shit just happens, you drop like 200 mmr, then you get it back over the course of like 1-3 weeks because it'll happen in a smaller scale over that time.
honestly I can't remember the last time in a pub where I had a game of dota where the winner wasnt the team that was less retarded and was the team that outplayed the other one. it's always just been which team fucks up less in pubs and not who uses the better strategy.
it's a lot of luck that you dont get fucked over from the moment you load into the game. but hey, reports are great for temporarily removing those dumb fuckers.
>>145850475
it doesn't help that this is happening right after a major.
>That random music playing in the Stream
????
>>145850528
it's literally that they've gotten better at matchmaking.
win and loss streaks are the result of the system having a separate "confidence" rating which represents how sure the system is that you are at your real MMR. after you win a certain number of games in a row it reduces the confidence and so you get matched with and against a broader range of players to see if you can still maintain the same winrate.
it isn't an immediate thing either. chances are the last few games of your winstreak the system was already trying to shit on you but it didn't do it hard enough.
>>145850604
all the immortals: right at release is the best, you might get lucky and sell for a bullshit price if you post it up right away, but also the 1st like 2 days is when it'll be the highest. lack of supply increase doesnt mean shit when there's a lot of them.
items form the cm wheel: wait a few months but not too long or the next compendium will do the same shit and drop the price
>>145850512
Where... Is... John Connor
>>145850475
Oversaturation. ESL probably spent a lot more money on the Frankfurt major.
>>145850817
holy shit thats really good
right after major, and just before TI, Even pros didnt feels like trying hard
>>145850808
i'm planning to sell the treasures, at least the treasure should worth 2$ per box, right?
>>145850639
Reports do nothing if you don't mean 20 reports from 20 parties in 10 games.
>>145850846
didn't valve pay for production at the frankfurt major?
>>145850968
jesus kathy, don't be such a drama queen
>That DP blowing up
>>145850782
Funny note, i have been in queue for 30 mins because people in my team (always different people) have computers so slow they take more than 2 minutes to load.
>>145850782
That sounds like a stupid and overcomplicated thing to do, if you're on a winning streak why not just match you withbetter players? 50% should naturally happen if you are truly in the bracket you deserve to win.
>but muh forced 50%
What is the benefit for Valve for forcing 50% unless there's an actual argument as to why Valve would bother to do such a think I will not believe it.
>>145850512
>>145850817
>>145850957
only if you like mine ;)
>>145851161
>dogbro
Still awful as ...whatever he thinks he is in dota
but for someone who typically makes the wrong choice every time I was expecting a Cat aka BadDog
Wow Liquid are getting fucking dicked.
Liquid tilting
not rushing perseverence into linken's before boots on weaver
ISHYGDDT
>Fnatic drafts like shit
>Still winning
>Mushi ripping and tearing
?
>>145851139
>What is the benefit for Valve for forcing 50% unless there's an actual argument as to why Valve would bother to do such a think I will not believe it.
It's not forcing 50% for the sake of it, it's the need for bad players to have a better winrate so they don't quit.
>>145851139
but they do match you with better player. Or at least what the system perceives are better player, which could also be people being lucky, playing fotm shit, exploiting,whatever
>>145851245
slardar BH is actually an insane combo
>>145851252
Bad players also get around 50% MMR once they reach their place.
Are you retarded?
>>145851252
>It's not forcing 50% for the sake of it, it's the need for bad players to have a better winrate so they don't quit.
Every god damn multiplayer game, you retards always try to think its "jews keeping bad players in the game"
It's because the last thing any game ever does is think of a ranked system that isn't the easy and simple "elo system".
Because winrate does not mean SHIT in elo. And I wish you retards would either get that through your thick skulls or stand in front of moving trains.
Chess players dont give a shit about their fucking winrate. It matters who your opponents were.
lmao fnatic
>>145851245
Mushi is literally awful
>>145851231
>not getting phase on weaver
literally 48 damage for 820 gold lmao but i dont expect shit kids like you to even realise how insane that is
>>145851231
the same guy
my build 1000% win rate:
>basil into aquila (may just skip it if you're getting good geld)
>perseverence
>linkens
>threads
>mkb
>butterfly
WHERE'S DINOSAURI
DINOBOWL WHEN
DINOSAUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MACHE ALLES
>>145851395
why do i even play this game any more.
Fnatic back to the dumpster
>>145851395
coconut mate fuck off already
>>145851318
Slardar/BH + a hurricane pike high damage carry like TA/OD/Drow is the most op shit
no one is doing it
>>145851383
sure, and run outta mana after one shikkuccino
>>145851454
>normal skill
fnatic will lose their TI invite because of this
>>145851252
If that's true then why not just match them with players of their same skill level.
I've also heard about this "game expects you to carry your team", but Valve has explicitly stated that it is stupid to try to predict player behavior, the supossed "high level" player might go support while the imbecile one goes mid and you will only know when is already too late to do anything about it.
Also.
>Implying shitters would quit the game.
>Implying the peruvian playing on a calculator even has money for hats.
>Implying Valve cares about the shitters.
>>145851498
as if they're getting a direct invote
>>145851454
Filthy acc buyer
>>145851454
rip
not even gonna lie, I would be pretty fucking mad sending tickets to volvo or some shit
>>145851497
im 3333mmr but probably more like 2300 now since i dont play so much any more.
>>145851454
you're not playing to win, and not putting an effort
you're just a valve agent planted to make some guy on your team who's been on a win streak lose
>>145851498
yeah sure
valve want to please the SEA monkeys anyway
>>145851454
PSG?
>>145851454
>15 matches in 3 months
>why do i even play this game
but you dont!
>>145851482
what a based argument totally based in reality and not just nonsense
my turn
linkens is bad on weaver becuase when you buy it every enemy gets 100 gpm for free
>>145837739
muh microaggressions
>>145839314
Serious answer: It's the PC cafe culture they have. And the PC cafes they all play in don't have Steam. That's why CS:GO isn't popular down their either, but they love the korean knockoff Sudden Attack.
Why does this LAN feel so shitty?
Last year Frankfurt was fucking hype
Ways you know your game is lost from the draft
>SF
>Wisp
>Oracle
>Sniper
>Clinkz offlane
>Medusa on any lane
>>145851594
Steam has a pc cafe program tough. I guess they cant really get cafes to use it
>>145851597
manila was a honeypot
this """"lan""""" is literally a honeyspoon or some shit compared
no one cares or tries to win it
This invo build is breddy shit
>>145851618
>Ways you know your game is lost from the draft
There is only one answer. And he will make your life miserable while he loses the game.
>>145837739
>I applaud riot in this, even though I am a bad human being.
also lmao at the conversation he was banned for jesus fuck
>>145851618
>sniper
Someone post THAT image
Timewalk giving back health is borderline broken
>>145851618
>enemy carry
Sven/Naix/Slark
>your carry
PA/Jugg/Luna
Liquid is fucking around and fnatic is just being usual retards
>>145851574
i play to win, i use voice-chat i try and rally the team together and encourage positivity. i mute 'toxic' players and im quick to admit when ive made a mistake.
>>145851754
void bould be straight dogshit without it
>>145851682
you just gave me PTSD from the game where I was literally winning 4v5 without our tinker and he still never joined any single fight ever and just bitched at us whenver we didn't do everything perfect in our fucking 4v5 fights and he STILL NEVER JOINED US even when we were fucking pushing t3 or doing roshan he was afk farming somewhere telling us to defend our base
>>145851754
GoodTimeLapse
>>145851786
>mute 'toxic' player
>'toxic' player tells you "watch out their mid is coming to gank you with invis rune"
>you don't hear it because you muted him
>you die
nice plan
>50k viewers
Is this the end?
>>145851786
Then you must really suck.
Actually, you have too many deads, you probably go for high-risk high-reward plays, that is fine when you're losing, but when you're winning you should focus on keeping your advantage and outfarm the enemy.
I know that your team is full of retards, but so is the enemy team.
>>145851918
its like 4 am in burgerland
>>145851894
more like
>mute someone
>get ganked
>they sperg out "STOP FEED LOL WHY YOU DIE FOR WHAT REASON DESTROY YOUR ITEMS GG"
>you muted them so you dont hear it and it doesnt affect you
>>145851918
>shitty lan with no teams right after major
>boring as shit games as well
>>145851894
When I see a raging little bitch I type 'muted' to all chat and watch the fucking fumes coming out of the retard when he starts spamming shit after I wrote muted
Its the most hilarious thing
What's the point of Linkens over BKB or Lotus Orb ever?
>>145851950
There are no good burger teams so they already switched to other games
>>145851754
HoN has a version of Faceless Void
But makes Backtrack heal over time instead of removing damage
Everyone starts picking because of the heal looking good
>>145851953
>>>they sperg out "STOP FEED LOL WHY YOU DIE FOR WHAT REASON DESTROY YOUR ITEMS GG"
Why would this affect you?
>>145851775
>>145851775
New thread
Hei
>>145851454
You should play a better game that is more fun and balanced :^)
I remember stressing about dota when I played, but ever since I moved to overwatch i have never gotten angry ever. The game is absolutely stress-free.
>>145851982
splitpushing item for 1 button escape heroes like weaver, morphling
situationally good versus doom
>>145851894
Or I simply notice it myself and play accordingly because I'm not a shitter with 0 map awareness.
>>145852002
why it wouldnt affect me
when you have retards on your team you just try less beucase you know that they are retarded and wont stop being retarded and will prolly lose the game by being retarded anyway
>going all in on a void with no mana
lmao
Is DP the most retarded hero? Press R maybe some E and just walk around and eul urself.
No skillshots
No timing
Barely and positioning
Literally a foolproof hero for morons
>>145845097
Doing god's work.
>>145845472
hownew.ru
>>145851918
Navi vs Alliance during Manilla had over 500k viewers, and that wasn't even the grand finals. Issue is within the tournament.
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>>145851175
Really cute!