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sc out

>2.3.0 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1667259

>Prophecy league information
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663440

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

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>>145741253
Why do I even play this game, I hate it.
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I love atziri!
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>>145741253
turbo qt
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How do I fix the feel when I accidentally, and drunkenly, sold my 2ex item to a vendor?
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>>145742409
just remind yourself it's only 2ex
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What jewels should I be looking for this 3 totem EQ build that uses voidheart for bleed/poison?
never looked into double dipping and people are arguing whether "Melee damage" and "Melee physical damage" scale on EQ.

tl;dr
what stats am I looking for with this?
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>servers fucking up again
fuck this game
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>>145742454
B-but I'm new, anon..
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>>145742569
bet ur new to this dic too

got em
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>>145566319
>FREE
>>145574640
>free
>>145576048
>free
>>145576425
>free
>>145578660
>free
>>145611273
>free
>>145635349
>FREE
>>145642968
>FREE
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>free
>>145643812
>free
>>145645104
>Free
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>free
>>145651257
>free
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>free
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>free
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>FREE
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>>145742797
based retard
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There's nothing that irks me more than a person linking his 20% Summon Skeletons in 820, with the following line saying 'worth ?'

Not only does it disrespect said chat room, but it's just a stupid question. What does he even mean by that ?

"Was it worth to use my 20 Gemcutter's prisms on my gem ?"

"Was it worth to delevel my Summon Skeleton skill gem to 1 but have it gain 20%?"

"Was it worth for me to drop 60$ on the Prophecy Supporter Pack so I can get support pack RNG and have this sweet 20q gem drop on my 1st character in this league (who is totally going to be a summoner now) in the prisoner's gate ?"

Or perhaps "worth ?" simply mean "Does this item have any value ?"

While I can certainly answer any of the above questions, I just go ahead and ignore this idiot.

Because he took that off topic nonsense to 820, a room meant for sharing and progression.

If you ask me, that buffoon's stupid questions aren't "worth" my time.
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>Cooterz crying on cam for shekels
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Claiming this thread for shitcrow master race
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>Lab is a really good layout to run today
>I'm too sick to stay up and run it
Man.
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tfw i still like this league
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JUST WHAT WE NEEDED!

THANKS SO MUCH CHRIS!
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>>145746198
are these people serious?
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nice general poetards
just let it end
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>>145747696
?
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3 masks& 3 maces

hehehe
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Here come dat boi
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>>145748894
oh shit waddup
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>>145748894
>>145750381
>being a dumb enough monkey to fall for government sponsored memetic warfare garbage
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for whispering ice, Lelementalist is the class to go right
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>>145751280
no, pathfinder is /s
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>Devourers
Well, that was a fun character
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>>145752180
a stibnite woulda saved you
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>>145752447
It might have
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Daily reminder that if your build thread has
>INSANE
in the thread title then you should kys
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>>145752501
What a shit character to die to such a weak map and mobs.
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>>145753089
>your build thread
>following a tree someone else has made
What do you take me for, a pleb? kys
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>>145753182
extra damage
sub phys
extra light damage

it could have whacked shocked whacked him in half a second
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>>145753190
I meant a thread for the build you make, based retard
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>>145753414
Why would I share my build with the masses so they can ask me "what bandits rewards did you take????" or "how did you level before 80???" or "can I do this build being LL RF????" and other dumb related questions
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>>145753605
dont forget the obligatory "can i tune this more towards sc" or "is this hc viable"
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>Reddit in a nutshell
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scoin or witch for WI
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Is a heavy vaal blue gem build viable? Assume I'm playing with a friend.
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>Some people selling shitcore exalts for 310 fg now
Shit, I wonder if it will hit 350.
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>>145755240
>Assume I'm playing with a friend.
Don't need to lie anon, I'm playing with my dad too.
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>>145755698
your real dad or stepdad?
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https://youtu.be/hXLOe4dkpgk

OUR based retard bites the dust again
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>>145755734
I'm not american, so my real dad.
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>>145756424
oh, I thought my wife's son was posting here
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haha flameblast is pretty fun why didn't you guys tell earlier
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>>145756884
It stops being "fun" quickly. And the main way to have it viable is prolif and,
>prolif
>fun
Nah. It's a tedious skill if you don't have a gorillion AoE/cast speed.
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>>145757068
dunno man, it's been getting better and better as i've leveled, just steamrolled cruel in couple of hours pretty comfortably

>gorillion

i have just a bunch and i'm having pretty nice pace clearing with it

i can't wait to see how it is when i actually invest in gear and get to maps
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>>145756884
It is fun, yes, but fast? no.
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>>145758091
Just go with it, but remember to lean towards hp, not the damage. I used Saffel's and took Barbarism (or whatever gives you +1% max fire res) - and hitting reflect mob only left me at half hp, oneshotting everything in the process.
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How's conc effect on kinetic blast?

Does it lower clearspeed? Does it make killing bosses with frost wall pierce faster or slower?
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>>145755881
its painful to watch this retard even play this game
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>>145755881

What is the highest he's ever gotten? I can't believe how bad/autistic he is
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>>145759745
Conc effect will literally always lower clearspeed unless you're unable to instantly kill packs without it.
It will also literally always make killing bosses faster, even if it's some small fraction of a second since the boss gets oneshot anyways.
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Play crit trap they said *GULP* enjoy no reflection *GULP* fast clear speeds *GULP*
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>tfw decide to try apex of sacrifice to see if my build can handle it
>tfw see its too hard and hit logout macro during atziri stage with full hp
>tfw log back in and see this
somehow im not even disappointed, maybe it's the boring mapping that got me
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>>145763740
fuck me
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>>145763851
bow to your queen, mortal
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>>145763851
the elementalist and scion asscen portraits annoying the hell out of me
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>everyone says the league is dead and stopped playing
>no one wants to give me their currency so i can fuck around
what's up with that?
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>>145764560
nah i'm still playing, but only casually, there's still 10 weeks of nothing to fill
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>>145763541
>play bladefall mines instead
>slightly slower clearspeed
>literally no mana issues
>casually stroll through maps while enemies are unable to play the game through tricurse temp + enfeeble + vuln
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>>145765093
>slightly
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>>145764447
Elementalist looks like a retarded kid with downs syndrome and Ascendant is full on "What the fuck am I reading" mode.
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>>145765186
With mines you can go pretty hard and still be very safe, honestly safer in the middle of a pack than outside it. Swap the conc effect for an inc aoe on trash and it's not TOO much worse. Not like it's going to be "fast" by any means, just not literal aids to map with.
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:^)
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>>145765093
traps dont have mana issues if you actually bother to plan your build for what you are casting

of course if you are retard who believes a build only consist of life and damage gear/nodes, then yeah youll run into sustain problems with ANY skill
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nice game poetards
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>implying the shoah actually happened
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>>145765393
how do you have 13k ehp as hybrid
what is this sorcery
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>>145766049
vaal discipline
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>>145765861
it was real in my mind
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>>145741253
dem sweaty buttcheeks
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>>145766215
>>145766049

Vaal disc wasn't up, it's regular discipline and (shit) gear, passives and Occultist's stuff. This is with VD on
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>>145766049
0 dmg
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>>145766650
that's op as fuck
i never played hybrid before
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>>145766821
>op as fuck
>no evasion
>no armor
>no damage
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is there some fun melee skill/build that is actually melee and not "aoe with damage based off a weapon". Im craving for something in style of d2 zeal paladin
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if i have 17% life regen can I run over traps and not give a shit
i just want a comfy build to farm uber lab
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>>145766878

>no evasion
>no armor

Which is the reason I went hybrid in the first place, couldn't really make anything else that had actual defences.

>no damage

Not with vortex, some bosses can take fucking forever but everything else is pretty damn speedy
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>>145767078
LUL
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>>145767094
go juggernaut with 20 end charges and cast IC
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>>145767158
isn't the max 11-12 depending on gear and corruptions?
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>>145767326
do you have legitimate autism or was it too hard to decipher the exaggeration when i said 20 charges
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>>145767078
If you don't care about being people, you can use whatever.
You're never going to escape being aoe though, it's too important to how the game actually works and plays. Even a dualstrike or flicker build is going to be slayer/use melee splash (or just use a real skill like EQ for non-bosses/tanky rares)
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>>145767078
There is literally no decent melee build that doesn't use an AoE of some sort to clear packs.

Zealadin only worked because monster damage scaling wasn't insane and melee autolocking was a thing.
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>>145767078
Thing is, you cannot clear endgame PoE the way you clear endgame D2, at some point you NEED AoE, the question is whether you want to waste a support using melee splash or just use a """melee""" skill with melee splash built-in. That being said, if you want a skill that you actually have to be MELEE with and not something like EQ/Reave, there are some like Static Strike, Dual Strike, and others. You can actually make something like Dual Strike have decent AoE if you roll Slayer since Impact is now a 2-point ascendancy perk
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>>145767158
i don't play male classes, sorry
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>>145767078
Bino's Viper Strike Assassin is the only melee build I can think of that can live without melee splash or an AoE skill. And that's because Bino's has pseudo-splash built-in.
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>>145767414
sorry friend the lack of tone and inflection involved with text does in fact prove difficult for me
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>>145767427
>>145767517
>>145767540
what about cast on crit? if i put some attack speed into my build and run something like vigilant strike + multistrike + cast on crit + arc or something + supports?
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>>145767943
>vigilant strike + multistrike + cast on crit + arc or something + supports?
Is this retard for real? I couldn't think of a worse build if I tried
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>>145767943
>CoC Vigilant Strike
No.
CoC is Cyclone or ST for Melee.
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>>145767943
Vigilant strike is terrible for CoC, nevermind anything else.
If you're willing to consider CoC, just use cyclone. You can also theoretically just use ancestral warchief totems for aoe, I suppose.
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>>145767943
You wanna use cast on crit then you use a skill that has lots of hits per second like cyclone or wild strike.
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>>145767943
sounds like you might be looking for something like an infernal blow build. not played much anymore. still decent enough. it's primarily a single target skill that has the benefit of exploding dead enemies and cause a chain reaction. you just run up to the elite or unique, start fighting him while all the whites blow up around him
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>>145768203
alright thanks
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>>145767943
I hate to say it, but Path of Exile Melee is Path of AoE skills.
>Earthquake
>Ancestral Warchief
These two are the BEST Melee skills at the moment. Even above Reave.
Earthquake has been #1 melee since it released.
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>>145768203
>infernal blow
>primarily a single target skill

uhh poetards?
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>>145768336
Honestly it's not like some of the other skills are BAD, it's just that EQ and warchief are far and away just better.
Also, don't forget to get a voidheart. Literally just easily doubles your damage, if not more, for only a ring slot.
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>>145768394
point out to me where it says melee attacks also hit surrounding mobs on infernal blow
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>>145768394
is it not? melee splash is what makes it not single target. the skill itself is definitely single target focused with a little aoe added on
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>>145768510
It has AoE in the fucking tag list
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>>145768478
Yeah, but Voidheart is a given. Expensive, but fucking AMAZING.
Elemental Melee is also useless compared to Phys normally, now it's infinitely more true.
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So is this league dead already?
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>>145768613
how many infernal blow builds don't run melee splash? it's pretty much required
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>>145768643
it's been dead for a week, sweetie
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>>145768640
Look, the poor anon suggested CoC with vigilant strike. I'm just assuming he knows literally nothing, and making sure he understands that the 1ex or whatever that ring is worth now is actually just mandatory.
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>>145768792
It's not actually mandatory, it's mandatory for higher-end mapping.
And it's easy enough to get the Prophecy for it via just rolling, and a Blackheart for 6C or so.
Then it's just a matter of spawning Bameth in a Beyond modded T1.
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>hit a3m
>start replacing leveling trash with more decent pieces from poe.trade
>tfw every seller replies in 15 seconds, double your life, cap resistances and manage to get 0 mana cost for flameblast

damn it feels good
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>>145768914
There is literally no better single item than voidheart for a melee physical build. Every single build that is both melee and physical has no reason to NOT have one. Even ele conversion ones are probably still going to get tons of free damage from it.
It's not mandatory in the "can't do content without" aspect, it's mandatory in the "no build fitting the criterion is not just better from it" aspect.
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>>145769206
oh wow so voidheart is a new ring? that looks kind of ridiculous
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>>145769142
damn it feels good to cheat the game's difficulty by buying gear you didn't earn
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>>145769416
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>>145769354
It is far and above ridiculous. For the small price of a ring slot, any melee physical build gains something like >60% free damage (i'm not confident on my math for degens.) This makes skills that were already ridiculous like EQ and warchief totems EVEN MORE stupidly strong, and you don't even need to scale the bleed or poison damage to get that. Even dedicated ascendancy passives to bleed/poison aren't 100% application rate, and are usually tied to crits and things.
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>>145769746
opportunity cost
that ring has no life
>but muh damage
fuck off shitcrow
notice how no high level hardcore streamer made a build around it, only shitcrows like ghudda
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>>145769746
i was even eying its application for a cyclone build too. throw in a melee knock back support and the damage from bleed could be crazy
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>>145769839
>if the streamers don't build with it, it's not good

bet you're one of those kids who talk about how esk and hans are "our guys"
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>>145769839
30 life :^)
The point is, you don't need to make a build around it. It is literally just an additional bonus for any melee physical build. If a HC player is uncomfortable trading 60 life and 80 res or thereabouts for >60% damage, that's on them wanting to play safe and not wanting to do top tier maps anyway.
>>145770015
Lion's roar flask effect, but it's a little meaningless with cyclone since you should just be moving past them and they'll bleed out if they follow you.
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>>145770027
all i'm saying is you weren't slurping voidheart's cock until your boy ghudda made a video about it
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>>145769206
Just got back.
There's a difference between BIS (what you are describing) and mandatory.
Voll's Protector is basically mandatory for CoC builds.
Voidheart is BIS, just like Skyforth.
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>leveling past 85 takes about 50% more grinding than it did past league
>high level map drops are about 50% rarer than last league probably to push people into the endgame lab
>build variety at an all-time low

nice game
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>>145770528
skyforth is mandatory for some builds if they can't generate power charges (e.g. coc builds that don't use voll's chest) or need the reduced mana reservation

get what you're saying though
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>>145770657
>>high level map drops are about 50% rarer than last league probably to push people into the endgame lab
>if it happens to me, it must be true for everyone
map drops were unchanged, you dweeb
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>>145769416
shut up boy

trading is an essential core part of the game
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>>145770528
I'll concede the point, but skyforth is in a completely different rarity bracket, and can be reasonably expected to not take a highlight in a large number of usable builds. Voidheart is pretty easy to farm yourself, and not completely out of the price bracket (yet) for casual players, and probably one of the better purchases to just save for straight off the bat.
>>145770453
If you can't take one look at that ring and see it's not stupidly strong, you probably need to take some remedial math classes. If you're the kind of person who thinks every single slot needs to be a rare with t1 life and 2 res, with 1 >40%, then sure, there's opportunity cost. But you're not going to be doing red maps like that. One single slot for two more sources of damage that scale off your initial damage, that can't reflect, even accounting for high resist is >60% damage increase from one, ONE slot. If you assume a build has 1 slot for a statless unique, there is no reason to not have it be a voidheart. No other single unique will give that damage equivalency, unless it is some build enabling thing that causes your build to be literally nonfunctional without.
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>>145771080

which is why GGG has made so much effort to streamline trading in every way :^)

i know the game is balanced around trade, which makes their laziness with trading extra concerning
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>>145771236
Not that guy but where is this 60% damage figure coming from? 60% extra damage assuming the bleeding target is moving, but that's per second, since bleeding does not stack. If you attack for 100 damage a second 5 times a second, your target is still bleeding for 60 damage per second, not 60x5. So the "60% damage" becomes "60/X% damage" if you attack X times a second.

Then you add poison which of course is a nice bonus but nothing you can really double dip as melee, with the exception of Less Duration which makes applying any significant amount of poison stacks impossible.

You want something that attacks slow and hard like EQ, and blasphemy Vuln to make the most of it. The math varies from build to build but I highly doubt it comes out at >60% extra damage, which would indeed be stupidly strong for one ring slot.
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>>145772146
arent they using totems to inflict bleeding?

you could use Bloodlust on the actual damage skill
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>>145772146
10% per second from poison, assuming no resistances, with a base duration of 2sec, is 20%
Bleed is 10% per second over 5 seconds, for 50%. Combined, it's "70%" extra damage of that single hit. This is a bit of an unrealistic scenario, but that covers the basic math (unless I fucked up somewhere.)
It is probably wrong to assume it will always be 60%, and probably wrong to assume that it is more than 60% frequently (unless there's shit like knockback or movement involved, as you mentioned.)
The best skill to take advantage of it is probably EQ, because the 2nd hit has a ton of more multiplier on the aftershock which scales the poison and bleed hits even higher. As >>145772360 said, you can use bloodlust on your skill or your totems or whatever as well.
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>>145772146
Additionally as you mentioned, for builds (reave, etc) that rely on fast attacks, it's significantly less valuable (at least the bleed is). So, it's safe to assume that it's like 30-40% on average. That's still a pretty hefty chunk, I think. It's also pretty easy to scale those damage sources if you're hanging out in the area a typical reave build would like to be, like the fatal toxins cluster or force shaper.
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>reading voidheart discussion while leveling up my first time EQ character
>blackheart drops
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll be adding in the Bloodlust as soon as I get the prophecy.
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>>145773518
Good luck, anon. I suggest rolling for the prophecy then buying a bameth kill, saves you a lot of grief. I think they go for 5c or so. You can spam beyond t1's if you want but RNG will be RNG.
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>>145773918
Oh shit, it requires a Beyond boss? Well I'll just stick with the two-stones for some more time then.
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>>145774187
It's not too bad, you'll be fine without till you're 75+ and out of dried lake. At that point you should have plenty of currency to nab a kill, just hang out in whatever channels and wait for someone to advertise for it.
Can't use the thing till 48 anyway, and EQ by itself shits on all content for a long, long time.
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>>145741253
Don't talk to me or my wife's son ever again!!! XDDDD
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>>145774503
Why did you marry a frog, Anon?
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>>145774883
Frogs never let you down, unlike, you know, CATS.
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>>145774883

there are mixed-species bloodlines packs,which imply they are sibling or something. so interspecies marriages are probably commonplace in wraeclast
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>>145774503
>this is an actual mtx
>grimdark arpg
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>>145775632
>not wanting to be a little princess in a grimdark world
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>>145774883
frog pet best pet
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>>145775778
>grimdark

poe is far from grimdark

its only wraeclast that is fucked up

oriath is fine and comfy and the karui have their own tropical paradise island
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>page 10
let it end
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>>145777495
>bumping
WHY DIDN'T YOU LET IT
>Sage
Oh, nevermind.
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>>145777495
>catposter nowhere to be seen
>page 10

You think this isn't a coincidence?
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>no catposter
>no league shitposting
>all thats left is tranquility
bliss
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>>145777639
>bumping
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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post overwatch waifus
dont let poeg die
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>>145779684
or panda links
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Do you get the 6 link achievement if you use Fated Connection?
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>get some merciless amulet prophecy
>putting on any other ammy makes half of my clothes come off

no
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>>145770453
anyone with a brain saw how dumb voidheart was and snatched them up way before the streamer price inflation
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what would be easier to make it to red maps with? EQ or BV?
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>>145781556
eq i rate
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prophecy wouldn't be so shit if you could seal all prophecies for 1coin
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>>145783245
or if they removed the shit padding ones
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>>145782690
Juggernaut or berserker?
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>>145783923
maybe even slayer if you can. just pick what you like
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>>145784591
I'm just thinking toward what would be best for surviving end game. With juggernaut you get permanent IC with all those endurance charges. Free warcries with berserker, and insane leech and AOE with slayer.

Cant decide desu
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>>145784707
champion perma fortify is good aswell
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>>145784868
eh i figure leap slamming through packs is good enough for that

I guess the real debate is between slayer and big jugs. Im leaning toward juggernaut, because innate AOE on EQ is probably enough right?
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>>145775950
Oriath is ok for bourgeois scum
The karui are still oppressed
Viva la revolucion
>>
What the hell could the remaining acts be about?
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>>145785012
it's ok but I i think increasing the aoe for the first hit helps
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>>145785012
If you just want a safe first HC build jugg is by far the best defensive class in the game
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>>145785164
Probably Oriath first, then maybe "you are the demons" type of arc.
>>
How do I into totems? Specifically Ancestral Warchief?

I've got a level 37 earthquaking marauder that I absolutely hate and want to respec him, save me a few hours on a reroll.
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>>145783923
If you want to try to farm labs I suggest Berserker, you can get perma Immortal Call too with EC on such a short cool down. With EC on a 2 second cool down you can also just walk into most of the lab traps and not have to worry about dying.
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>>145785164

dragons

underwater stuff

liberating oriath

cleansing the karui lands

going to whatever planet/dimension "the nightmare" came from and killing everything

maraketh weeb pandering expansion
>>
endless ledge gamemode when
>>
What's the better meme build, chaos wander or obliteration wander?
>>
Ok so I'm new, (only just got to act 2 normal) please spoonfeed

I just got a tabula rasa drop, and checked quickly and it seems to be worth something. Can somebody elaborate?
>>
RACES WHEN
REEEEEEEE
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>>145787042
You can check current prices on this site:

http://poe.trade

The price seems to be 10 chaos orbs.
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>>145779684
d.va best va
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I love atziri!
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>>145744358
I wanna gape that shit crow, hardcore.
>>
0-9 fap and play poe
dubs uninstall and find something better to do with my life
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>>145790839
>dubs
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>>145769839
It's literally
>free
damage and
>free
mana for defensive auras.
also makes you
>free
from ele reflect
and if you are Slayer you get
>free
phy reflect damage reduction
effectively making you reflect immune for
>free
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>>145792064
U wot m8? U havin a giggle m8?
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>>145771325
Trading your crafting materials for an item someone else earned.
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>>145795357
>Bumping
Stop that.
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>>145795529
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>>145795720
Good girl.
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me playing prophecy league
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>>145795357
>>145795720
>>145796070
>>145796697
dumb weebposters
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>>145796697
>>
how much are people buying uber lab runs for in softcore? thinking of making a character for it
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>>145797597
2c because a key cost that much.
>>
How good is Kiara's Determination?
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>>145798723
>No freeze
>No Chill
>No Curses
>No Stuns
>During flask effect
>For 3 seconds
>40/60 charges
If you can clear fast enough, it's just another item to top off already broken builds.
Otherwise, it's shit.
A "Win more" item really. Like Blackheart.
>>
I'm in act 2 of my first playthrough. Really enjoying it so far. But if I get framerate drops to ~30 when fighting some bosses, will my toaster be able to handle endgame action at a playable framerate? I'd hate to invest a lot of time into a game just find out that as my attacks get flashier and the bosses get bigger my PC can't keep up.
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>>145799704
no
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>>145799704
No. Consider downgrading to "Runescape" graphics.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/268262/page/1
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>>145799704
Your PC is going to shit isself. Because this game runs like shit even on the best systems.
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>>145799704
I've been playing for 2 years with ~10 average fps, I just deal with it
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>>145799890
>>145799897
>>145800005
Okay, thanks guys. I thought it was weird that medium and high were the only texture rez options. I'll keep going and see if it gets unbearable.

>>145801687
My condolences. I'm not particular about framerate but I don't know if i could do 10.
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>>145804353
yeah ok now whats the dps with added phys crafted on?
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>>145799068
basically more pathfinder wankery
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>>145804353
i found something similar

but isnt the +gem level on meleeshit basically worthless?
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>>145804353
>no attack speed
>no flat phys
>%increased less than 150%

>>145806123
>shit base

Reminder if your 2 handed weapon isn't at least 450+ dps then it's probably isn't worth much.
>>
Guys, I want to do CoC discharge but I don't want to go CI.

Is this a possibility for HC? I'm not mr moneybags and I don't RMT for currency so budget is tight and can't afford CI gear.
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You will find a gf
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>>145807668
Then don't do CoC Discharge, do a Mjolnir build.
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>>145808310
i will?
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League is deader than Elvis
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>>145808420
>Mjolnir build
That shit is even more expensive. I got like maybe MAYBE 1ex if I liquidate all my shit and that's really pushing it.

vagan dagger is like 4c and voll's is a few chaos and I got the 5 link prophecy.
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>>145807239
im gonna try selling it for 1-2c

then ill just get the chrome form the npc if that fails
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>>145808310
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r8 my trove
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If the in-game display is correct, I'm getting latency spikes into the 700s. Does that mean I should use predictive networking mode over lockstep?
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>>145809417
When people say CoC Discharge, I thought they include Voll's neck in their build. The defense difference between a 5L Voll vs. 6L is pretty huge too because 6th link's usually life leech as you absolutely do not need more DPS.
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>>145810704
u should of call you're ICP
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>>145810704
There's nothing wrong with predictive except when using abilities that desync a fuckton (like flicker strike) or movement skills.
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>>145810704
yes

90 or more ms you should use predictive
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if you use 2 emberwakes, can you burn monsters 600 times total?
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>>145810729
Ah, yeah. That's a part of the build but to me I don't see it as a required piece. Don't get me wrong, I'm not discounting the item in any way (it nearly doubles the deeps) but it isn't something required to get the build in a functional state ( assuming, not sure - could be talking out of my ass on this last point).
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Which of the unique belts are actually worth using as a budget option for physical damage builds?
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>>145810729
>because 6th link's usually life leech
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>>145812121
meginord's if facebreakers, rare (rustic) otherwise. leveling with wurm's molt is fine but you dont want it later.
>>
>>145812304
Just got belt of the deceiver drop while lvling and it's better than my crappy rustic. I also have the meginord prophecy so I might use it when it drops. Why only for facebreaker?
>>
>>145812170
Why you post a pic of you're dead mother?
>>
>>145812745
Belt of the deceiver is great for leveling, wear it til you find something better. you may have problems capping your res with it by merc.

facebreakers rely on flat damage on gear (due to it's massive % mult), which meginord's girdle has. Also the reason that Abyssus will triple your deeps with FBs
>>
going to make some pasta and bacon
gotta eat big if you wanna get big in pee owie
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>>145811758
With 160% less burn damage yeah probably
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>>145813150
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>>145813670
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i just ordered 2 x-large pepperoni pizzas

i wish

im fucking starving
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>>145813551
pasta is a mistake

complex carbs are your enemy
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>>145814037
i made veggie pan pizza yesterday

and by veggie i mean no meats. cheese was 100% from cows under horrible captivity
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>>145814037
are you an imposter
or the same depressed anon
>>
>>145814495
check the filenames, retard
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>>145814337
cheese is allowed in a vegan diet are you stupd
>>
>>145814635
milk and egg derivates in vegan diets are the softcore version of veganism
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>>145814532
fuck off and die
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>>145814987
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:D:D:D:D
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DEAD
E
A
D
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>>145816428
>hybrid flask
>mapping with mines
>that loot filter
>australia
>>
>>145816428
worst forced meme, worse than freeposting
kys
>>
>>145816550
>mind over matter
>cluster traps desu senpai
>objectively best
>fuck off we're full
>>
What lvl/health for cruel lab
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>>145816926
55
2k
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You guys lagging hard?
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>Chain Temple maps looking for rare Galvanic Ribbon
>Voltaic Guardians also show up in the same map base (Both at the same time in this instance), and they're fucking identical aside from the name
>Finally encounter a rare lightning ribbon
>...
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>mfw people believe lacerate is shit
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>>145818051
you could literally get it in <2 minutes spamming solaris 2
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>>145818485
It's one of those stupid map-only rare mob prophecies.
>>
I just cannot get these latency spikes to stop, I've tried everything, it's killing me. Are you guys experiencing this?
>>
>>145818895
call
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>>145818895
your
>>
>>145819096
>>145819230
i make my own internet
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>>145819248
call yourself
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>Tfw I'm level 30 with 60 exalts worth of currency

I got an exalt on the first day, changed the currency to chaos, abused the POE currency market (Buy chisel for 4:1 sell for 3:1, etc) with the POE.xyz API

shoudl I start the league? or should I just cash out now
>>
>>145816920
>fuck off we're full

pretty sure its 99% empty wasteland or barren dessert
>>
>>145820128
>making this all up just because you are too ashamed to admit you RMT

its not anyone cares anon
>>
Mapping would be kinda fun if it wasn't for the prohibitive rng cancer. Seems it would be better to just stop caring and save all the chisels, alchs and chaos and run whatever alt/unid maps I can get.
>>
>>145820428
>being salty
kek
it's piss easy, go search the currency market yourself, it's the same guys for every currency
>>
My friend has been botting since day fucking 1 on merciless dried lake and he hit 87 doing just dired lakes, how the fuck is he not banned yet?

blizzard????????????
>>
>first CI char ever
>do malformation piety
>have done it hunderds of times befoer, never had a problem with it as a lifefag
>as i enter the room she casts that red ball spell on me and i cant move or cast, RIP

i guess not getting stun immunity was a noob CI mistake
>>
anyone running marohi erqi eq voidheart, if so whats the best 6link set up
>>
>>145821648
Yes it was. Pretty much anything stuns when you have 1 HP.
>>
>>145821648

CI is a mistake
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>>145822296
i wasnt liking it, but the build i was doing pretty much was set up for it
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>>145816428
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>>145821648
just log out lmao
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>>145819945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyKNUj-AjgA
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This is amazing for me as a CI melee

literally free skyforths
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>>145820857
exilebuddy or exilebot?
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>>145823986
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>>145824408
the cracked one
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>>145824602
https://i.4cdn.org/f/its_friday%21.swf
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hi
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>>145825369
post the ones with bulge
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>>145824807
that's beautiful, anon.
>>
Why is everyone always so depressed here?
>>
has anyone 6linked an item yet?
>>
>>145826060
no that has never happened in the history of poeg
>>
>fucking around with stunnable CI build in std
>every high tier boss pretty much means death

why does not CI notable grant stun immunity? its a dead end without it
>>
>>145826429
>why does an incredibly powerful keystone have a drawback?
just use a chayula, you chump.
>>
>>145826159
it would probably happen if people bought some p2w tabs :^)
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diablo 2
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>>145826627
needing 3 keystones on opposite sides of the tree is more than "a drawback"
>>
>>145826627
>incredibly powerful
>>
>random sites offer to sponsor kripp to play PoE on stream
>he turns it down to play more children's card games instead

ummmm

poetards?
>>
>>145827230
>>145827492
yeah it's that big of a drawback that literally no one ever goes CI nowadays
>>
>>145826627

Wow tricking people into instantly dying in town....This place is messed up
>>
>>145817030
Lies, he hurt like hell. Still beat it though but the last stage was a bit rough
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>>145804353
Nigga you think that's a maul?
Get on my level you fucking pussy
>>
>>145827693
that's a big maul
>>
>>145827693
now post what league it's in
>>
>>145827693
like 3 leagues ago some anon posted a 730 pdps one
>>
>>145827868
Yeah it's standard
I just miss crafting actually being something instead of the trash we have now
BiS for most 2handers is usually always going to be Atziri's Disfavour
Damn fucking shame
>>
>>145827541
What? When did this happen?
>>
>>145828259
he was just talking about it on stream

sad...
>>
>>145828212
>I just miss crafting actually being something instead of the trash we have now

i dont understand why they backtracked on the mastercrafting

finally people without RMT'd currency was able to afford making good weapons
>>
>>145828476
because german goo girls make money off of rmt
>>
hc prophecy boyz ww@...
>>
>>145828476
Because GGG makes money from RMT websites
This isn't new information
>>
>3 Pale Council fights
>2 bows and 1 scepter
Did I luck out?
>>
>>145828812
busy fantasizing about curvy dark elf maidens
>>
>>145829018
post your ign and let's talk about them...

http://exhentai.org/g/943800/ab07364073/
>>
>>145829247
damn malrone's thicker than a bowl of oatmeal..
>>
>>145829354
if you add me we can share more goodies...
>>
:stoperp:
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>>145830176
i'd rather keep the mystery of who you are intact
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>>145829247
>Hairy
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>>145831418
gays not welcome in /poeg/
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>>145831551
I can't even mentally process your stupidity.
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>>145831418
>>
>>145831418
lmao at this fag
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>>145831418
I never understand this tag. Does that mean the armpit or the pubic? Cause if it's pubic that's okay. Armpit's JUST tier. If that's full body non-furry then I have no words.
>>
>>145832493
you can click on tags and view the definition
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>>145832493
there's a tag for hairy armpits (it's "hairy armpits")
>>
>>145832991
is there a tag for suicidal anime girls?
>>
>>145833525
not really, sadpanda tags by appearance, not subjective criteria
>>
>>145833525
Madoka Magica.
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>>145833721
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Uh, POEtards?...
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>>145833721
really, I thought it was the tag for schoolgirl prostitution
>>
>>145833962
CoC.

>>145833969
Both.

>>145833698
>suicide
>subjective
State the nature of your medical emergency.
Uh, someone killed themselves!
You sure? It's subjective.
>>
Carcass Jack or the Beast fur shawl for a righteous fire build?
>>
>>145834056
suicidal is subjective though
>>
Familia, what do I roll?
>>
>>145834589
caustic occultist
>>
>>145834589

righteous fire totem
>>
>>145834860
Thanks famalam, I might just do this.

>>145835096
This was the first thing I rolled this league (ripped)
>>
>>145834589
Terminus Est Flicker with Voidheart and Assassin.
>>
friendly reminder that CuC is cancer and if you play it you are no better than 11yo 9gag'er
>>
>>145820128
>literally jew
I'm ok with this
>>
>>145820128
>>
>>145835989
word
I never touched that cancer support gem in my life and never will
>>
>>145836238
What is THAT?
>>
>>145836341
My ideal girl
>>
>>145836490
"""""girl"""""
>>
>>145836490
>girl
but .. the third leg
>>
D
>>
E
>>
A
>>
Something between installing Windows 10, and starting this new season has been giving me some problems. About every 3 minutes I get 3 seconds of lag where my game straight up freezes. Has anyone else had this problem?
>>
>>145839278
no problem with windows 8.1
>>
>>145839278
works on my windows 95
>>
>>145839483
>>145839593
Yeah... i decided to upgrade to 10 because the deadline was close and i did receive performance upgrades across the board in FPS because i play on a 'gaming' laptop
>>
>>145839278

are you a slayer? getting the node that gives the buff on rare/unique kill is bugged and lags every attack.
>>
>>145839278
Yeah, it's documented. GGG can't reproduce it internally and has asked for help on their officials.
>>
>>145839278

im on w10 and dont have that problem
>>
what the fuck will I play for these 10 fucking weeks
>>
>>145842245
A better game hopefully
>>
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>>145813150
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>>145741253
Starting to get depressed about Hardcore and considering starting a SC character. How do you keep on keeping on after dying to countless bullshit and not once to things that were actually your fault?
>>
>>145848442
i ripped my second ever hc char to one of those 100% game freezes, instantly rerolled the same build in sc, never looked back
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>>145848442
Shitpost about it on poeg and join the poeg discord.
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>>145849905
>>145848442
>>
>it's Oh, Another Risen Blood, huh? -episode

this is starting to get boring..
>>
>>145848442
then just play on sc. sc probably stays alive a lot longer than hc anyway
>>
AHAHA

how and why do i have an abaxoth in my non-beyond map?
>>
Am I the only one who still disagrees with the ascendancy classes because it goes against the core of the game that I liked the most?
>>
>>145855947
nobody cares faggot
>>
So... how the fuck do people even get skyforths if it requires mob level 84?
Only drop from bosses in T15 / chance?
>>
can you put discharge on a trap support?
>>
>>145856352
Can traps get charges?
>>
>>145856224
>requires mob level 84

uhh?

i think i've seen a pair drop in t10 map
>>
>>145856445
wiki says the item level drop restriction is 84.
+level strong boxes in some high level maps maybe?
>>
prophecy: you will regret being alive
>>
How do you guys manage not to kill yourselves while leveling to 65, and also while leveling from 85 and forwards?

Literally the only fun i have with this piece of shit game is theorycrafting, and playing on t1-t10 maps. Anything other than that gets absolutely boring/tiresome.
>>
>>145857172
playing in a party helps for me
>>
>Why must men turn us into monsters?

what did she mean by this?
>>
>>145856514
Prophecy complete!
>>
>>145828812

Nearly 89, first time on a HC league. Gonna make it guys

Had to solve 5 fucking captchas to post this
>>
Anyone free to babysit me through Merc Malachai?
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>>145857824
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>you will slay a rare in a locked difficulty, but the enemy type only spawns in one area, and even then only a few of them , so gl finding a rare at all lol
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145861783
>tfw got a bow on my second try
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anyone noticed endgame arguns' ai being kind of screw-y?

he kept for stopping and standing still for no reason mid-fight
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>>145861578
>they sometimes don't even spawn in the zone

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with GGG?
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wand or sceptre for memeblast?
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>>145861578
meme songs help rng
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>>145863005
didnt mean to qoute
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>>145862798
>Both never ever
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>>145861783
retard
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>>145863156
can't roll cast speed on daggers
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just realized Chris doesn't have a single day of vacation
the man works 365 days a year, give him a break
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>>145864226
thats true for anyone who is his own boss

unless he sold more than we know to Tengent
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why do I even bother anymore
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>>145864023
cant have free poison with a sceptre/want tho
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fuck ggg. i never knew how stupid earthquake was. this fucking skill is so far and above any other melee skill
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>>145855947
No I agree that ascendancy pigeonholes classes into very specific builds now, where before you could do pretty much whatever you wanted.
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>>145867079
You can still do whatever you want if you're not shit at building. The problem isn't the tree, it's the skills are imba as fucked. Their idea of forcing meta change every league's really stupid.
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>>145867079
actually no, you can still do whatever retard build you want. classes are just another layer. retard.
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>>145855947

no

ive saying this since day 1 when they got annonced

PoE is a classical arpg now

>>145867253
sure you CAN

but unless your ascendancy aligns with what you are trying to do, its gonna be shit

granted some ascendancies are pretty versatile, and could run almost ANY build, but that really just shits on all other classes/ascendancies
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>>145867253
please tell me how you make a scion bladefall miner that's half as good as witch

you CAN still play scion bladefall miner but there is virtually zero reason
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>>145867757
Niche builds have always been subpar even pre-Ascendancy, this is the akin asking people making a Bladefall Trapper with a Duelist start back then.

you CAN still play Duelist bladefall miner but there is virtually zero reason, at least I'm pretty sure my Scion Ascendant Bladefall Miner will be better than your Duelist Pre-Ascendancy Bladefall Miner.
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What's the most forgiving CI build? I've been playing for awhile now but always avoided CI.

I'm thinking ED/contagion occultist
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>>145868239
but neither of them will be half as good as witch

at least pre-ascendancy you could get to 70-80% as good
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>>145868245
CoC Discharge
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>>145868245
the one where you can avoid being stunned and can have 10k+ es at least
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>>145867031
And yet it feels like ass to use.
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>>145868239
CAN you shut the fuck up?
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>>145868449
>at least pre-ascendancy you could get to 70-80% as good
Show me a Duelist Bladefall Miner that's 70-80% as good as a Witch Pre-Ascendancy.
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>>145868649
Come and gag me with your cock then :^)
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>>145868808
i lyk win u talk dirty bb ;)
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Can I do merc lab safely with 6k armor and 5k life?
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>>145869696
you can do it safely with 0 armor

just dont try to facetank izaro
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>rampage chain at 914
>get one of those occasional 3 sec freezes that happen since 2.3 prophecy patch
>chain breaks

haha, nice game
chris you got a nice game there haha thanks for letting me play haha
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>>145871762
what map do you run for rampage
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>>145872000
mountain meme ledge
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tfw you run out of usable maps just as your secretly broken finally comes together and everything feels its make of warm butter
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>>145872073
Keep pretending.
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>>145871762
Run Temp chains Gorge with a Quicksilver. Temp chains slows the shit out of the rampage meter.
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>>145872073
>run out of usable maps
you've got 7 uber labs right there anon don't be a pussy
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>>145872560
the rewards can be pretty good but its physically painful to run
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>>145872795
You can get a shitload of maps for doing it if you have enough keys.
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>>145872904
its just more rippy than mapping tho. mainly its traps i dont like; but i just got a 2x enchant prophecy so ill give it a go
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>>145872904
I've done 9 Uber Runs with 4 keys, twice with 3 with no maps at the end.
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>>145874327
I did ~55 4 key runs yesterday and only got maps 6 times, it's not very common.
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is it worth it to take the blood magic nodes and run one aura with essence worm so i don't have to use a skill slot for blood magic? or rather is that something people do?
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>>145875010
its up to whether BM is good for your build, and you only really need 1 aura

you could get the BM enchant (level 1 tho), or just a warlords+blasphemy curse going to solve mana issues
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>want to do a build I've never tried before for the new league
>hear good things about Whispering Ice
>it's okay, turns out I need a bunch of specific uniques to make it work
>make a simple Cyclone Marauder to farm chaos and buy shit
>get my WI build up and running
>as I'm leveling her I realize I was having way more fun with the Marauder

Fuck, I don't know. I still need a Perandus Signet to make her whole but the going rate is like an exalted or some shit. Maybe that'll make WI more fun.

Fuck, I hate starting new without all my wealth.
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>>145876996
>Perandus Signet
You shouldn't need this to make a good WI character.
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>>145876996

you dont need to follow guides to make WI work

and signet is only worth it if you are already using a ton of uniques, which isnt a very good thing to do with WI
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>>145876996
WI is fine with just the 6s stick and a bunch of int/es rares. If you're still leveling you aren't even really playing the build, you need the endgame CI gear to really get going.
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My performance issues yesterday were because my SSD is dying :(
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>>145855947
tbqh the problem I have is more of with the traps and shit. Just doesn't feel very PoE-like. Not to mention % damage retardedness. At least they made it once per league now, and the lab is pretty fun.
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>>145877802
>he fell for the ssd meme
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>>145876996
the #1 trick to up WI damage significatively is converting 100% to fire

you lose some amazing CC from mass freeze but gain a lot more damage and still keep the shilled ground
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>>145877819
Tbh izaro is ridiculous. It follows the same trend as the act 4 bosses, where they're just massively inflated hp/damagewise compared to literally anything else in the game. Some builds just straight up can't do izaro fights without being grossly overleveled, and it feels overly punishing to be forced to buy carries for merc/uber labs on builds that aren't specialized for killing superbosses.
I'd rather have the izaro fight traps not just throw you into the fucking thunderdome in the center of the room, with conveniently sized safe spaces that just so happen to be exactly the size of the sunder/cleave.
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>>145877535
>>145877620

Oh, thank god. I really did not want to buy one.

>>145877674
>you need the endgame CI gear to really get going.

Ah, so WI is one of those "it's not good until you're 80+" builds. Might as well keep pushing through to the end, I guess.
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How tough is the Pale Council?
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>5 alts left
>decide to try to roll a flask
>5 alts, same phys leech roll stays for 4 rolls

nice '''''"""""RNG'''''""""
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>>145878349
I wouldn't say it's not good till 80+, but the main defenses you have are permafreezing the entire screen and having more ES than china has rice. So when you're lacking one of those, it may be a little shit to play.
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>>145878324
izaro is far from being in the "superboss" range

even the uber version. its a fight solely determined by your move speed
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>>145878942
>its a fight solely determined by your move speed
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>>145879106
that you believe otherwise is telling of how you play this game, tbqh

are you in RP guild by any chance?
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I'm building a EQ with Marohi to farm maps but I'm thinking about transitioning to something that can better handle end game content like uber lab and atziri instead of trying to get a disfavour. What's the cheapest build for that stuff?
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>>145878324
>forced to buy carries for merc/uber labs
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>>145879291
Literally just time your movement skills to dodge his big attacks dumbass.
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>>145879442
EQ can do all of the above with no disfavour.
Bladefall mines/traps
Flame totem?
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>>145879623
Really? All the best builds I saw use disfavour and go dot. I suppose I could replicate dots with a voidheart.

I tried to lvl a shadow as my first character but I fucked up the tree because I was lvling with bf traps and went out for trap nodes and only have like 1k life at lvl 42. I'm hoping I have enough regret points to fix it
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>>145879589
thats a nice way to end up balls deep into traps in the last stage

no wonder why you have to buy kills

even then it seems you have realized that all it takes in those fights is to move and you avoid 100% of the damage he does. and his health is relative low for an "uber" boss

he is literally the easiest thing in the lab
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>>145880083
EQ + warchief totems with voidheart, it certainly won't have the instant kill or clearspeed of bladefall mines but it's fine. Farm cards for a 6l coronal maul and mastercraft it, you'll be fine.
Level 42 is a few hours, don't waste currency, just reroll and fix it. You don't need a TON of hp, but that's just TOO low.
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>mfw can't get to yellow maps without zana
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How come no one plays Whipsering Ice?
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>>145881938
Because if you're like me, you have 7 of the stupid fucking staff taking up stash space and you KEEP GETTING THE PROPHECY FUCK OFF NEVALI YOU CUNT
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>>145881938
im playing UB AoF WI

its fun as fuck and quite effective
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>>145882229
Build?
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>forgot to get battlefront wp after getting dust
>forgot to pick up tower key
>female golden statue dds not found, poe crashes

i quit for the day
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>Try to run cruel lab
>Wonder where my damage is
>Realize haven't upgraded my axe in 30 levels

Well that was embarrassing.
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>>145882284
i just said it: Unlimited Burns Avatar of Fire Whispering Ice
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>>145880095
I have never bought a lab run. You're just shit.
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>>145882408
I meant tree
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>>145881764
Thanks, didn't think about using any totems but I'll try it out
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>>145882627
>never bought a lab run
>complains about izaro being too hard and needing to buy runs

do you have brane issues m8?
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So is Prophecy better than Perandus?
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>>145883074
>assuming everyone in a reply chain is the same anon
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>>145883191
for RMTers yes. considering perandus completely ruined them

for the rest, no
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Are there any fun Ranger builds? Maybe something based around minions? Ranger is the only class I haven't beaten the game with yet. I started a tornado shot build last league but got bored with it and never finished.
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>>145883074
Nigga try to figure out who posted what.

>>145883191
Perandus forced you to pause for 10-20 seconds for every stupid chest. This one has a prophecy lottery which can get you good shit or force you to hunt for a rare mob in some area to get a vendor unique.
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so how does crit cap work? should I try to get to 100% or just 90%?? I'm at 92 with 4 power charges up atm
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Good level to first start mapping?
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>>145883504
You could make it work I guess, but why not just make a necromancer null's inclination build?
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>>145883902
HC? Dried lake, that's it. Never leave except to do white t1s when your tab gets too full.
SC? 65-70. if your dried lake clearspeed is really high you can go higher. if you have a bunch of the good t1-3 maps, start maps earlier.
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>>145884702
>HC? Dried lake, that's it. Never leave

?
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>>145885064
You can do a t2 map if you have at least 8000 ehp, juggernaut with 8 end charges, 15% regen and a logout macro, too.
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>>145885373
;^D
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>tfw you respec into your desired build and have less damage than on your leveling spec
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the fuck is the point of ground slam again
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>>145887841
Get you through till you get sunder, which takes you till EQ.
Be a surprisingly decent skill for CoC.
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>>145887491
not uncommon. keep pushin
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>>145884629
>Ranger is the only class I haven't beaten the game with yet.
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>>145888271
>beaten the game
aww
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Today's Prophecy SC Cruel lab is disgusting when people don't do the mechanics.

Izaro absorbing 3 spirits, then Getting 15 power charges. KILL ME
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>>145878552
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>>145888890
Well that quality turned out shit, goddamn 3MB limit.
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is the scion still a virgin
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>>145889116
Of course not, she had a husband.
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>>145889064
compress it decently and use youtube m8
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>>145889309
but she killed him on the wedding night
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>>145889309
she killed him before he could deflower her

hence being exiled
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>6.6k hp
>7 endurance charges
>+50% block

get oneshot by orchard boss farshot that went through my totems
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>>145889951
that worrying part is that you allowed yourself to be hit by it
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>>145889951
>things that never happened
it doesn't hit for more than 6k, on a crit
orchard boss projectiles also don't go "through" totems, they have no pierce
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>>145890057
It was the fast attack that killed me not the slow one(at least i think).
I'm pretty sure it chained off my totems onto me. It was pretty late last night when I died.
either way one shots are so fucking gay.
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>>145890303
see >>145884702 >>145885373
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>>145889778
i want to use my droit du seigneur on the cute scion
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>>145888890
>mask drop
git gud
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New player here, what's a fun witch build if I just want to beat the main content on the highest difficulty? I generally like ice mages in most RPGs, but something poison based could be fun too.
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>>145891128
ED occultist
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>>145890303
i avoid chaining or proj mods on that map
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>>145891128
you should just try out different skills and decide what you like

start witch or templar if you wanna do ice mage
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>>145890292
>it doesn't hit for more than 6k, on a crit

why you lyin
>>
I'm thinking about respecing from my shield charge into EQ. I'd not played EQ before but I just tried it out in dried lake with my Slayer and the increased AoE you get makes it fun enough for me to want to play.

However, I've never actually seen anyone play it since I'm not typically grouped. How is the damage? I did fine in dried lake speced for another type of physical build but obviously that doesn't mean shit for maps. Can I expect to one shot entire screens in T9+ maps or does it slow down a lot?
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>>145895345
best "melee" skill
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eq was a mistake

give it a -20% aoe penalty
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>>145895345
You should probably be oneshotting mobs up to and through every single map tier. Bosses and beefy rares may take two hits.
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>>145895912
Even with a standard rare mace? Won't be able to afford a Marohi for a 7L EQ.
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>>145883191

If you're a 1 character a league person it's better
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>>145896092
its dirt cheapo
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Gems for 5 link marohi EQ? Obvs EQ, Added Melee and less duration but what about 5th slot?
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>>145896625
multistrike and melee on full
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>>145896625
fortify
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>>145896625
rapid decay
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>>145896814
>>145896887
>>145896964
Shiiiiiiit, I don't have 7 slots
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But actually WED or Fortify
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>asscensions
>witch: free curse, free ele status, free prolif
>shadow: free crit
>ranger: free flask charges, free frenzy charges
>duelist: free DR or something
>marauder: free immortality
>scion: free to be mediocre at everything

>templar: ????????????????
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>go HC
>always solo self-found
>do some dumb build I theorycrafted while trying to sleep
>shit survivability, gets fucked early on
>kneejerk reroll the tankiest shit I can imagine
>get complacent and do something stupid, die early again
>donate all my currency/uniques to some random fuck in a1n
every god damn time, this time it was not overleveling for lab, getting +70% as lightning on a darkshrine, and still trying to brute force a triple essence buffed izaro who takes 40% of my health with 7 end charges and fortify

I should just become a shitcrow already, what's the point in being elitist if I never hit maps in the first place.
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>>145888890
i'm not sure why people were under the impression that it was a hard fight, i got a set of keys from normal play, decided to have a go at it, was thinking it would be like atziri , it's just a room with 4 faggots who do shit damage, books were the only sketchy part of the fight.
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>>145898973
there is nothing with playing SC while you git gud or test shit out

in fact i think most people stop playing SC when it gets boring due to it being too easy, not over some ideological wankery like catposters try to make it out to be
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>>145890292
they don't pierce, they can chain tho :^) i got shreked by one on a ca scion, hit my wither totem and smoked me lol
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>>145895912
15-30c everyone should be able to afford that
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>>145898892
FREE totememes.
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>>145898973
Source?
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>>145899813
artist is BeNantoka, dunno which one specifically. They're all good anyway.
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there are shatcrows ITT right now
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How the hell are you supposed to do the maps from bosses challenge? Do parties increase drop rate or something? I've received none in the last 10+ maps, and very few returns from other mobs. Should I start spamming whites or something?
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>>145899812
thats they thing

they aint free. there is a negative damage cost

unlike the status/prolif from witch or the crit from shadow
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>>145900127
Reminder crows are actually extremely smart birds, and have even been observed not only using tools, but fabricating their own.
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>>145900147
Spam maps with multiple bosses. The achievement is bullshit anyway as more than one map dropped at a time only counts as one.
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>>145896540
A 6L Marohi isn't dirt cheap, it's at least 6 ex.
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who wants to map...
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>>145901143
Softcore?
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>>145901534
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>>145900147
i have 130/300 and it's only 2 weeks in, pretty sure the buffed the drop rate a bit, i also get a lot more +2's
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>>145901534
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>>145900308
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wtf is this?
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>>145900461
6ex IS cheap, they were at least double that most of last league. 6ex for a 6 link is crazy cheap when it is one of the BiS items for a skill. buy a 5 link for 25-30c , the clear speed is hardly noticeable from 5 to 6 link with a voidheart
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>>145901845
i feel the exact opposite

never had i experience so few map drops from bosses and i never had ran out of high tier maps so quickly
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>>145902094
ha, we are must have switched rng, i have gotten so many +1's from mapping and at least 30 +2's from bosses. any other league i would be in heaven , but uber lab is so insane i could give a fuck about +2's
>>
friendly reminder that people gushing about the lab are paid viral marketers
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>>145901845
Would be nice. Started today with a decent pool of T8, 9 and 10 and now I'm almost to the point of going back to T7. I suspect I'll end up with 0 yellows today in which case I'll probably quit this league like I did in Perandus.
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>>145903483
t8s are like 1c
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>>145901949
blackguard/piety rape teepee
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>>145903451
LOL, viral marketing to who exactly? the peopple who actively play the game
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>>145903483
don't spend too much currency rolling maps, honestly i almost never spend more than 3c on a map and then it is only for t13-15. with uber lab how it is , i don't think it's worth mapping this league unless you are bored , i leveled my eq jugg from 70 to about 86 in ubber
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>>145902035
I only have 30 chaos with gear that's worth maybe an ex total to sell.

6 ex for a Marohi and 1 ex for a voidheart are nice goals but they're not a good answer to the question of whether I the build is fine with a ~400 dps rare mace or not.
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>>145905349
a 5L marohi is fine too
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>>145905349
i would say the void heart is the most important part, it's insanely overpowered, the marohi is just nice because of the inc aoe, not a requirement. i would say first off set up acquisition and lrn2trade and make some dollar bills, second buy a shit ass 2h mace that is 5linked, like an alch or a chaos should be enough to get a decent 5l mace. you can make your own voidheart, just grab from the void and a blackheart, bemeth spawns quite a bit, i have made 5 or 6 voidhearts in the last few days. if you are going god mode with 7-8 end charges get your kaoms way , idk how much they are probably cheaper to buy from poe.trade
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>>145906460
Thanks. I'll try to pick up a voidheart soonish. I'm using a pretty shit mace at the moment and a tabula. After I pick up a voidheart it may be enough damage to twitch to a 5L and a kaoms or something.
>>
>Emperor of Purity ( 7 for six link holy chainmail.)
>3 chaos each

>6 link holy chainmail
>70 chaos each

HMMMMMMM.
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>>145908506
You will never get a response from the people selling at that price.
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Someone link me a HC eEementalist Whispering Ice tree, never played CI before
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>if you altf4 the izaro fight the prophecy on the treasure room dies with that session

does this happen too in sc if you die? seems kinda bs
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>>145910583
>altf4
Hardcucks, everyone
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>>145910748
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>>145910748

if i was in sc i would have winged and most likely died to him cause he was gonna have 3 conduits because there is no risk

in hc you weight the risk vs reward. in this case the risk may have been worth if i knew my prophecy would be lost
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>>145910583
lol the lab is hardcore by design, you get 1 shot, you fuck it up and you are back to sarn.
thats why all the reddit babies cry about it.
>>
>still no trading tools, base lines, charts, or protections against faggots manipulating markets with false undercutting/lowballing.
>they rely on third party tools that could cripple an entire league if they went down
UUUUHhhh POETARDS?!
>>
>know its a waste of money
>really want the gloom armour from the darkness mystery box
HELP
E
L
P

maybe $10 wouldnt hurt...
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>>145911681
i bet you'd look really cute in it...
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so is uber izaro identical to the merc one, mechanic wise i mean?
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>>145911669
there is a new mtx evoking the style of glorious nipponese warriors tho
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>>145911850
yes

he just hits a bit and his room has some more shit on it
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>>145911850
yeah if you can farm merc lab then uber should be fine, only real difference is that ubbber is worth it.
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>>145911927

Getting ready them wallet!

Everybody should buy that while its on sale IMO.
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>get to maps
>time to trade currencies to chaos and buy gear
>whisper 20 people, no replies
>all apparently price fixers/scammers
>alt+f4

It wasn't like this before, what happened?
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>>145911068
A lot of the prophecies disappear when they appear in an area. This prevents people from partying up, getting the thing to spawn, then leaving while the others finish it. Check your prophecy tab to see if it's gone or not.
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>>145912939
>Muh price fixing
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>>145912939

league is dead and trade has always been shit or unreliable, specially for currencies
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I want Piety to rape me
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>>145911669


2 Reasons:

1. Opportunity Cost

Making a proper trade system would eat up something equivalent to 2 expansions worth of man-hours. No bi-yearly new shit = no streamer attention = no influx of new players, no returning casual players. Why is this so important to them? Because that demo, casuals and new players, are the ones who actually buy mtx and account features. Oldfags either already have it all / most, or they learned to not need any of that. So even IF they did it, what would be there to gain? Would there be ANYTHING to gain at all? See next:

2. Diablo3-ization

If they streamline trade, and make it more accesible (this just by being able to trade from within the game), transparent and automatic, then you have that getting and selling your gear is too easy. This also means that anyone, even casual players can now build a currency pool and take part in endgame builds. All of this would result in leagues being "done over" quicker (and they already winding down too quick), or simply having GGG nerf drop rates even further (like what Blizz did).

Basically it would be good for the average player, but not for GGG. Its in their best interest to keep trade unfinished and obtuse.
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>>145912939
you need to get off of reddit man, everyone in the game isn't out to fuck you over, people can afk , just because they don't respond to you and trade the second you want it doesn't make them a scammer. i sell currency and sometimes i go afk, if i am gone for more than 10 minutes and someone whispered me for a trade, i usually assume they got it off the next guy. in the last hour i've made probably 30+ trades. you could easily set up a shop on poe.trade for the currency you want convert it all in an hour or two between maps
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>>145913398
I want to rape piety's mouth while she wears the mask
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My immortal Juggerauder just got his shit wrecked by white mobs from a strongbox

That's the last time I'll do an unid map.
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>>145915139
lol yeah i got wrecked to one of the 'whole map is in strong boxes' cleared 3 boxes the 4th was revive nearby enemies :^)
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>>145914937
>1. Opportunity Cost
That's a meaningless buzzword so I didn't bother to read the rest of your post.
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>>145914937
>2 expansions worth of man-hours
Okay, so the owners of POE.trade get pissed or bored and abondon it, monitize it, or otherwise fuck it up.
They have just killed their game for many months. It doesn't matter if you are an oldfag and can see through it, you can't always if the scheme is sufficiently big enough like the exalt price fixing bullshit (that never got them blacklisted from the index). A big enough scheme is transparent.

>Diablo3-ization
Red herring. RMT auction house was shit and the inflation in it was shit, this was before they had leagues (what, did it take them an entire xpac?) they built their game around piece meal solutions when they fucked it up from the planning stages, POE doesn't have this problem. There were also major issues in D3 with item inflation that isn't usually a problem outside of ghetto T1's like perandus/prophecy. Nothing changes from what we do now other than waiting 2 minutes for some retard to hunt through is stash, figure out he is in a lab, or just a price fixing faggot. That is such a red herring it is almost like GGG's "we want player interaction" red herring, it's not fun and players circumvent it already with third party tools.

Removing the back end and third party ad-hoc nature only benefits all legitimate traders while removing exploiters and manipulation. If someone puts a buyout for 3c that trade is going to go through, he can't sit on it. It's a very very shitty system.
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>>145914937
>>145915495
all poe.trade is doing is using the framework that ggg has in place, ggg could make a site in a few weeks. it's just a search engine for their indexer, the backend is all ggg
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>>145915484

its a legit concept you learn if you take any econ class in college. feel free to google it

>>145915495

just to be clear those 2 motives is why i THINK they dont do trade better. I could mention something of incompetence but i really doubt they actually CANT do it. They just chose not to.

And im not saying they are right, but i believe their motivation lies somewhere along what i mentioned.
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>>145914937
What is the story behind that picture?
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>>145915867

the only true move forward in trading would mean putting the trade/indexing interface inside the actual game imo
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>>145916040
kid bought some supporter pack with t-shirt

took it to some spring dance thinking it would be the shit

everbody laughed at him because they knew D3 was coming out in mere months and it would be way better
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>>145916081
yeah it's true, but then that would be too much like an auction house, and ggg are super against that.. even tho poe trade basically functions the same way as an auction house (market place whatever, half of what d3 had with the buy out option). it's like ggg think that making the process convoluted somehow changes it from what it already is
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>>145916470
i won a poe shirt but never claimed it for a similar reason
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>>145916470
>Release D3
>Good
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>>145916548

they simply pay lip service to their original concept of what poe's econ should have been, even if now it has stabilized to a point of being practically indistinguishable from a regular mmo econ.

this is why i think a big reason behind their lack of doing anything about it is simply because they need to churn out "new content" on a bi-yearly basis and also trickle in some much needed performance fixes.
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>>145916548
They have pretty much admitted through their communication to the community they have no idea what the fuck they are doing. Wasn't it Chris that said he wants player interaction... even though everyone hates waiting on faggots, you don't interact at all, etc. The only thing you do is see their hideout which I do enough of during their gay Masters rotations. Pointing at the smoking wreck that was D3 RMT and confounding it with trading or auction houses in general is highly ignorant at best considering D3 as a game was flawed and different from just about every single ARPG to date, there was a reason everyone quit until the expansion (over a year later) and it is still a niche game.

There is zero reason in both QOL (charts, moving averages) and depth of play not to have an in-game client and safe guards against blatant rigging that is illegal in every other market and trading floor in the world.
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>>145917134
>blatant rigging that is illegal in every other market and trading floor in the world.

you cant fix rigging AND keep market unregulated, which is what claim to want

market irl is actually heavily regulated even in free market economies. half of what law enforcement does in the US is related to market norms-violations (drugs, weapons, sex)
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>>145917134
>There is zero reason in both QOL (charts, moving averages) and depth of play not to have an in-game client and safe guards against blatant rigging that is illegal in every other market and trading floor in the world.
That anon a few posts ago already gave you one. The moment trading becomes facilitated (it already very much is) and easier than farming, this creates a trading vs farming balance issue. Why after all, waste your time farming when flipping is 10 times more time efficient. An economy in which this happens is no economy at all. Consider that PoE already suffers from this issue, and you're only asking to make it worse.
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If i'm using a 1h weapon and a shield, what should my weapon dps be to start mapping?
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>>145918020
Are you a retard, anon?
first thing I do new league is set up a billion live searches for 3 stat jewels, tri resist/life, etc.
WE ARE ALREADY DOING THIS.
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>>145918115
the point is that most people arent i think.

i dont know the % people who use poe.trade, let alone its filters and live-updates, but it cant possible be a significant portion of the total of people who at least play poe all way to act4 normal
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>>145914937
>google search that image
>muscle
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>>145918115
:^)
not me i farm hillock for the first 3 days, then i move on to the ledge and farm that for about a week, only trades i do are standing in a1n whispering random players if they wtb some sick loot
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>>145918085
tooltip dps is pretty meaningless, moreso without knowing the skill. if you can clear the lake fine start mapping
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>>145918523

believe it or not, many people dont even know about poe.trade until they reach their 60s, their build is utter shit and someone tells them to look for certain item in poe.trade

and id say even a fewer amount of people use acquisition or similar
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>>145918497
this is very true, MOST people are not using poe trade to buy and sell, they use it to buy, then they rage because they are poor as fuck. setting up acquisition takes a few minutes and then listing all your shit takes another 10-15 minutes. the idea that only a very small percentage of players have any currency is retarded, people would rather complain than spend a few minutes setting up a shop
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>>145918115
What's your point? To buy items, you need currency, don't you? When you generate currency easier when flipping than when selling, then you have little incentive to farm. This in turn creates an economy that is self-atrophying 1 week into the league. Again, this is a problem that already exists and denying it only shows you've never progressed past the point where picking anything but maps and pure currency is a waste of time.
In an ideal world, the drop rate in PoE would be perfectly balanced around the premise that it encourages you to trade, not that flipping completely replaces farming.
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>>145918902
I already flip retards selling 1-4c jewels for 1+ ex, I already flip crafting bases that people overlook (easy to do now with the 1c b/o tabs for regal recipes). This already happens en mass, the currency is in the market and trading hands upwards from retards to the RMT echelons and there it is consumed. This has been a fact since POE.trade was a thing.

I am still out there playing the league, I have 2x level 90+ characters this league (and it is a shit league). No one wants to remove scalping but price fixing and transparent manipulation with false sell orders is never acceptable in any market. No one wants to remove natural selection or game play, we want to remove price fixing and grab ass "player interaction".
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>>145918115
If you're thinking the ability to "snipe" a new offer 10 second after it goes live with poe.trade isn't hurting the economy, you're mistaken. But it's all about you, isn't it? As long as it works out for you, who cares about the larger picture and the effect on the economy.
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>>145918902
i think his point was at the start of a league everyone is scrambling for currency , so people are selling shit really fucking cheap, figure out the metas early and get to merc as fast as you can. first thing i did this league rushed to merc dried lake, used all my currency buying offerings of the goddess and coins, and lab proph for enchants and keys.if you don't mind running around in shit gear for the first day or two you can just invest all your currency in shit you plan on selling in the next few days
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>>145919342
I am SUPPORTING moving averages, charts, etc. If that person removes an item from the game and it sells at a new price, that is a fair price. ASSUMING THERE ISN'T MANIPULATION WITH FALSE ORDERS.

FALSE
ORDERS

E.G
10 friends selling brittle emporers for 80% discounts but never EVER selling because they are "in a lab" or out right ignoring you. THIS IS MANIPULATION and traders that did this anywhere else would be in jail or banned from trading for life. These types of trades are automated now.
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>>145919254
>I already flip retards
>This already happens
Exactly my point. Why are you taking a negative aspect of the current economy model of PoE and asking to make it worse?
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>>145919342
lol, so what are you suggesting that items that are listed on poe trade have some kind of waiting period so everyone can search for it and then after an hour everyone can spam the seller at once? use live search and buy shit cheap, whats the problem, first come first server, like EVERY OTHER market, ever see black friday sales..
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>>145919254
>>145919254

and the more people do this, the worse the markets gets

and "trade improvements" would either make this easier for the pleb, or simply remove your ability to do it, at least efficiently

either way its bad
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>>145919690
I am not suggesting anything, I'm only saying facilitating trading (and thus flipping by extent) only creates more problems. Everyone asking for an easier time to trade under the guise of "muh QOL" and that "it exists everywhere else" is failing to see the larger picture.
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>>145919497
you know, it sucks that people do that. that being said, if most people know the price of an item the brittle for example, set a live search for it, when someone posts one , buy it.. then relist it at it's normal price, or message that person and tell them the real value of it, and tell them to relist it, you might even get some karma for it over at reddit :^)
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>>145919526
>>145919828
Justify having a reason for false sell orders to be indexed instead of using red herring bullshit that already happens (and the game is fine).
Flipping (buying low, selling high) happens everywhere and it isn't a problem. The problem comes from false trades (selling low but the transaction never happens, that's fraud).
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>>145919843
there is no larger picture, you realize that for all the downsides of poe trade it has caused the market to stabilize, currency conversion is the best example of it, a year or two ago you could hop in to a trade chat and see WTB exalted orb 1:20c WTS exalted orb 1:40c.. now because of poe trade the spread is a few chaos , and is basically a convenience charge. granted it makes it easier for the smart to outwit the dumb, but thats life.
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>>145920067
false trades are annoying , that is all.
fraud doesn't apply because there are no official guidelines to trading, nor will there ever be, can you imagine the man power to enforce that. i like the people who bait and switch.. "ohh i'm sorry i put that in the wrong tab, i am selling at x , would you like to buy?"
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>>145920898
>can you imagine the man power to enforce that.
Yes, it's called reserving the trade or delisting it if it s not actually available to be traded?
Wanna be smart and defraud the index? your brittle emporer transacation automatically went through. You aren't in the lab, you aren't AFK, you listed a trade and it happened! EVERYONE WINS!
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>>145921072
the problem with that is actual human error, "i'll list this nice 6link shavs for 8ex, oh shit i clicked chaos... OMG WTF i just sold my shavs for 8 chaos". that system would just cause even more scamming and would fuck over honest people who make simple mistakes
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What they really need is a system that handles the actual trade for you, like a shop system.
So it doesn't matter if I'm in some uber-uber-atziri-lab-core bullshit or even offline, the trade just happens. The item in the tab gets replaced with currency when I come back.

It actually makes a lot of sense to set people up to get scammed and/or jewed in a game where you pay real money for the currency, but in a game where you can't buy currency except for third party RMT it doesn't make sense.
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>>145921308
You are grasping at straws at this point and have no logical arguement.

It's okay to list false trades but not punish people for making ACTUAL MISTAKES they could learn from? You're either a troll, retarded, or an RMT'er.

Does the game let you buy back shit you accidently vendor? nope. No one cries about that. There is a difference between fucking up and owning it and having an entire market manipulated by kikes because the trading system is flawed.
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im getting tired of you nerds arguing stupid shit no one cares about desu
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>Fated Connections was 10ex yesterday
>It's 14-18ex today
Nice game poetards.
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>>145921657
Thanks, we keep it that way by driving off casuals like you.
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>>145921775
>implying I am not the one selling it for 18ex right now
retard
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>>145921460
your example really only works with divination cards, the one item in the game that isn't RNG . you could have two daggers, very similar rolls , only one has an open suffix, worth WAY more than the one with 3suffix. how do you police that? what do you consider a false trade, and how do you account for false positives that would make up about 90% of the hits in your anti-scammer system
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>>145921862
Sure thing kiddo, tell you what, here's 5c, go buy a goldrim and fuck off back to normal ledge
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>>145922000
>implying you have 5c
Sure thing retard
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>>145921996
I just gave you a fucking example about 15 "players" manipulating Ex:Chaos in Perandus.
It's affecting the currency market and people set baselines on gear (pseudo resists/life) comparing other offers.

It doesnt "just affect divination cards".
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>>145921862
lmao it would only cost 10ex to bench a 6link
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>>145922000
BTFO by trips
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>>145922140
yes yes i know we all troll reddit we have seen the post, no one gives a fuck. if you want to sell items in this game you need to have some knowledge , you need to know what makes an item ok, good, and great. why complain about it , use it to your advantage and make bank. there is no grand conspiracy of RMT'ers out to doom us all.
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>what do you consider a false trade
I have repeatedly told you that if you list an item for X it should sell for X.
This means that once your prospective buyer hits "buy" it removes it from your inventory and you can't deny the trade. There needs to be collateral for listing on the index, if people can freely do it with no repercussions they are just going to have groups of friends list a bunch of items and never sell them to push the value down and then stop their scam and resell at a higher baseline.

You have told the index you are willing to get 30c for an item, it's going to sell for that or you should be punished.

There are no false positives because the system should reserve the item in your stash and the trade be automatic.
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These arguments are all shit. Auction houses have their own unique issues like worsening demand by dividing it among the available supply, so prices plummet faster. Having automated trades increases supply as well since you don't have to be online for your shit to sell while also making you more susceptible to rapid price hikes, like when voidhearts doubled in price, you'd get spammed with several buy offers when you logged in, as opposed to it being sold for cheap while you were away. You're still going to get people that just don't care about looking up prices and list it for cheap anyway.
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>>145922617
you understand that that is the opposite of the system that is set in place. poe is a bartering trade system. x isn't always x, you could list an item for 1ex, 1 ex is 1 ex, or it is 63-66 chaos, or 145-150 fusings, or maybe it's 30 chaos , 25 fusings, and this ok diamond ring.
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>>145922861
>Believing there is a single jewish super cabal controlling the entire trade market
What is competition?
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>>145922147
more like 15
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So in a nutshell:

current trade is fucked and bad but any alternative would be even worse

lose:lose

a very PoE-y situation
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>>145923292
nope, 1500 fusings. 140:1ex phc | 150:1ex p
so 11ex tops, cheaper if you took a day or two to get better rates.
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>>145923506
PSC:
2.34 fuse for 1 chaos
68 chaos for 1 ex
=159.12 fuse for 1 ex, ~9.5 ex (646 chaos) for 1500 fuse

PHC:
2.8 fuse for 1 chaos
25 chaos for 1 ex
=70 fuse for 1 ex, ~21.5 ex (537.5 chaos) for 1500 fuse
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>>145923982
lmao are ex really that cheap on phc? jesus, i haven't played hc in two leagues no regrets either :^)
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multistrike with lacerate is butt fucking retarded
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>>145924703
Well, Lacerate is ass so that makes sense.
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>>145915130
She's a big girl
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>>145913398
same
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>>145927782
HOLY FUCK
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1-3: fap to kancolle
5-7: fap to love live
8-9: fap to precure
0: wildcard fap
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>>145928509
post links
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Rate my gypsie
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>>145918610
Lacerate - I've got the gladiator bleed stuff so that helps a bit without affecting tooltip.

I'm noticing bosses are slow, anything I can do to fix that?
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>>145928967
what league...
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>>145928198
Spooky
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>>145928685

http://exhentai.org/g/774710/2e58a9de18/
http://exhentai.org/g/906562/44afd718b2/
http://exhentai.org/g/907961/9509294926/
http://exhentai.org/g/824085/255efa9101/

Those are my favorites.
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>>145929080
i don't hav an answer besides "use a better skill" or weapon. The gladiator bleed/corpse popper is fantastic at covering up fringy DPS builds and letting them clear kinda properly. for single target some ideas are: vaal lightning strike, vaal haste or culling on something. maybe 4L with bloodlust to swap with.
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>>145928509
roll
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>>145928509
I hope I get precure too
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so this is what happens when you apply a 2handed sword/axe skin ( runic blade here ) to WoE, neat
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>>145929672
Why I only see sad pandas :,(
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>>145931226
new to the internet?
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>>145883191
Perandus will forever be the best league
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>>145931204
>lacerate
>lacerate
>selfcast curse
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>>145931569
new to hentai...
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scrub here, easiest way to generate frenzy charges ?
without the frenzy skill ofc
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>>145931204
there are so many things wrong with this image I don't even know where to begin
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>>145931813
xD

Im only 60 and using what I have actually
not casting that shit manually anyway its just there
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>>145932480
forgot image.jpg
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>>145932298
blood rage, blood dance boots
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>>145931226
Google how to access sadpanda. You'll be glad you did.

No I won't tell you how to do it, that's why the panda exists.
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ED occultist
poeurl.com/GQH

Spooky toss deadeye (but.. raider is also appealing):
poeurl.com/GQI


I'm leaning towards spooky toss as I haven't played that since 1.3
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>>145931813

Are you high? Lacerate is fucking amazing.
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>>145933847
why would you play ed when you could just play any fire prolif or poison bladefall
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>>145934007
Flameblast is too clunky for me. Just hate using it and firestorm for that matter.

Did the bladefall thing whenever that skill dropped. Don't really want to revisit right now although the skill is OP.
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>>145934173
As I typed this out I realized ED is probably going to be just as awkward so it looks like I'm going spooky toss.
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You guys ever take a step back and realize there are bigger things in life than PoE?
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>>145928509
i like how i invented the digit roulette here and now everyone is copying me baka
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>>145934372
Nah. Escapism is best ism.
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>>145934005
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>>145934501
>i invented the digit roulette
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>>145934641
i literally never saw anyone use that here before me
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>>145934173
ED is fun, fucking slow tho, you need really high cast speed otherwise it feels pretty aids, but it's an op skill. i took a mf'er to t15 with it two leagues ago, full mf and i facerolled all content
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>>145934776
ED is slow even with cast speed, and there is no way to efficiently stack cast speed on an ED build

You can reach decent clear speed solo with it, but the lack of immediate NOW damage is its biggest drawback
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Think a 3R1G Voidbringer would be worth anything?
I doubt it but i dunno
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>>145935158
It's pretty good for CoC Discharge, because you can stick CWDT - IC - Molten Shell - Golem all max level in that.
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>>145935346
you put increased duration on your IC
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>>145934372
no
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>>145934901
lol so true, the hardest boss for me was the terrace boss
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>>145935534
>14 hours a day
if half of that isn't idle time, sincerely and unironically get a life.
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>>145935468
I didn't need that when I played CoC Discharge last league, because I have 6 Endurance Charges all the time with Voll's neck.
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>>145935607
he should play moar
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>>145935607
a good 3-4 hours is idle time yeah

neet life
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>>145935579
here's a professional tip, keep it under wraps tho my nigga

if you enduring cry or decoy totem, the boss will attack and won't eat corpses
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>>145935579
literally all you have to do is target the boss only and not kill any devos or destroy their bodies, whichever is easier
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>>145935757
>>145935835
lol i was just illustrating the downside of the skill, i'm not retarded :^)
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>>145935534
Absolutely no idling and steam stats are when I switched cleints from standalone not that long ago. Complete Hiki NEET since 2001 but my pinky finger goes numb from playing too much for the past week so I am trying to stop, the league isn't even fun but there is nothing better to do...
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>>145937029
consider streaming, i'd pay to see an autist play the game 12 hours a day
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finished my fap, guys
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>>145938262
upload in my country is like 2.5mbps for $70 a month. Ain't happening.
Also I am a shit crow because I am fucked up on benzos and fall asleep playing. I nodded off helping oak in A2C and woke up after killing vaal
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>>145934005
probably that same guy who argued that heavy strike was best melee skill kek

all I bought is the WoE, everyhthing else is self found trash ( including those snake bits corrupted which dont do much for me anyway ) and I'm 2 shotting every rare, clearing the entire screen in 2 attacks

I never had an easier merciless run, its just silly how strong I am right now.
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>>145938607
lacerate is fucking awful because it has awful aoe coverage and everything it does is outclassed by something else
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flameblast
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>>145938383
you're fucking worthless i hate you
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>>145938767
I can't take you seriously man. Lacerate is one of the best 'melee' skills right now.

AoE issue? Lacerate sure as hell doesn't have that problem.
Clear speed issues? Not one can be found.
Lacks single target deeps? Not a chance bud.

I feel like you never gave the skill a chance, anon. Or your shit at making builds.
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>>145939071
are you that same retard from yesterday who thinks earthquake isn't a melee skill

lmaooo
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>>145939071
I can guarantee you that you will have significantly more clear speed by simply replacing that WoE with a dagger/rapier + stat stick offhand and go Reave or a >1h axe and a stat stick offhand sword/dagger/claw and go EQ
>m-muh single target!!
Love it when shitters pull this one out. Single target is literally 5% of the monsters you'll be killing and even then you can just buy a Voidheart and not give a fuck about anything ever. The only thing that matters in neo-PoE is the skill's aoe coverage, damage is piss easy to get. You're awful at this game and should kill yourself.
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>reserving 85% mana
>548 out of 553 mana reserved

this doesn't seem right

what the fuck did I do, all I did was change some gear around and now I have less mana available
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>>145940530
do you have any supports that modify mana costs (MCM) linked to them? because that effects them.
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>>145940802
I just figured out it was becuase I was putting one of my auras in an unlinked slot on my 2hander.

No idea what mechanic is causing that, I must be ignorant
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>>145940885
>I must be ignorant
>plays poe
it checks out
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>>145940885
Is the 2hander you're using unique and does it have a property that says "socketed gems are supported by lv x (support gem name)"
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>Nerf Voltaxic Rift
>Voltaxic has a specific rare-mob prophecy (A Call into the Void)
>Voltaxic has an ENTIRE FUCKING PROPHECY CHAIN for a corrupted voltaxic (Anarchy's End gives 13 Anarchy's Price cards total)
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>>145941767
still a powerful bow for dealing with reflect
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>>145941767
>Voltaxic has a specific rare-mob prophecy (A Call into the Void)
Don't remind me, I still haven't been able to get rid of this retarded prophecy.
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>>145942347
I managed to luck out with a rare talon demon appearing at the end of the pit map. Still having trouble with the rare galvanic ribbon though.
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I am playing the triple Ancestral Warchief totem voidheart meme build but when I cast and move off screen I don't see my EXP moving. Do melee totems stop attacking after moving away a short distance?
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reminder that /a/nons play h/a/rdcore only
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i focus on the game... the only thing that's real...
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>>145943912
Yeah, pretty much after you can't see them they'll finish their swing and go inactive.

The check if you're there is why they take half a second to "Deploy"
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>make game where trade is one of the core elements of gameplay
>give it an endgame farming mode where you cant trade from

???????????????????????????
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>>145939460
damn your insecure :/
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>start playing new league
>still no AH
>game is literally p2trade
see you next league poetards
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D
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>people who put up higher roll items for selling and try to give you the shittier one when you go and trade
lmao does that even work, everysingle time I notice its kinda hard not to
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>>145953691
Or people sell 30 of the same shit such as atziri flasks, put a couple of them in their public tab instead of all of them and give you a random one. Whenever someone says "not that one, the quality one" I always tell them to fuck off :^)
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>>145953812
yeah because there's no difference in 31%life5s and 39%life6s kike, you can't fool the white man
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>>145954074
>using belly

white race is doomed to die
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>>145954283
I'm also using southbound :^)
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>>145954329
don't forget about meginord's girdle f@m
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ok how much would a 7% maximum life and 4% reduced mana cost jewel sell for? there's literally none even with even maximum life on poe trade
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What's better to take for bleed/poison bow? red blue or yelllow?
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>>145955868
proj dmg is the best choice for poison m8
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>>145742797
baited on a free post from a free thread on a free site from a free country on a free planet in a free solar system in a free constalation in a free galaxy in a free universe
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>>145955868
>>145955936
Dont listen to that retard, just take Heavy/deadly draw
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>>145953812
happened to me last league with atziri flask, wtb near perfect roll, guy tossed in an unid flask, didn't notice, clicked accept,told him i was actually looking for the one listed, the unid one had perfect rolls so i linked it to him with a ty for scam . that shit happens to me all the time, idgaf because i can read so i usually catch the scam , the atziri flask thru me off tho, because it's such a cheap ass flask even with perfect rolls
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>>145957503
I don't think you understood what I was saying m8.

>put random flask i picked out of my nearly a stash tab full of atziri flask heap into my trade tab
>some nig comes and says "no, not the 5q one, the 8q one"

Nigger I'm not going to spend 1 more fucking second with your stupid ass shit, you sure as hell would still buy it since I usually am the cheapest one selling and you're getting picky? Fuck that.
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>>145955868
>>145957268
Bleed deals physical damage over time. The amount is based on the physical damage of the hit that caused it.
more phys = better bleed so heavy/deadly is the way to go
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>>145957641
or you could get double dipping nodes
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>>145957636
thats why i don't even pick them up, by the second day of the league they are literally not worth your time listing them
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>>145957641
weapon/attack damage doesn't double-dip.
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>>145957641
he's poison too tho
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>>145957641

as long as bow does phys, 20% inc. phys = 20% inc proj
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>>145957721
maybe in poopycore leagues
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>>145957706
for sure, but image linked already has the phys/chaos nodes
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>>145955563
Reduced mana cost, not reserved.

Basically only good for MoM builds.
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>>145957805
Projectile damage double dips both poison and bleed.
Phys damage double dips bleed.
Bow damage doesn't double dip.
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>>145957805
but projectile damage nodes double dip with both bleed and poison, and the 2 phys damage nodes near shadow double dip with bleed
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>>145958136
>>145958151
thats a lotta dippin
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>>145955868
The correct answer in green
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>>145958524
what a waste, the 2 point jewel socket next to blue is way better
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>>145958735
true, get both
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Hello am new, I just finished killing Dominus on Cruel with my Fire Witch, but I die a lot. I just get jumped on and my health goes down in half a sec. How not die?
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someone post their sexy currency tabs, i want to see some wealth and get depressed at how poor i am
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>>145959060
post build

and don't stop paying the butt tax
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I just started leveling up a Reave character and it feels really awkward to use. Will it get better with Multistrike?
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>>145959060
how much life you have?
are your resistances capped (75%)?
do you actively try to avoid getting hit by moving out of harms way?
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>>145959238
Yes
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>>145959090
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>>145959379
gibsmedat
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>>145959379
oh my. is that prophecy or std, sexy ass tab either way
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>>145959271
>>145959271
>are your resistances capped (75%)?
n-no... i thought this becomes a big deal in merciless? how to even cap all of them so fast?
>do you actively try to avoid getting hit by moving out of harms way?
that's the only way i can get anywhere
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>>145959770
>butt tax
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>>145959238
You might as well not bother with Reave before you have multistrike. I leveled with Lightning Strike up until then.
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>>145959770
you're not supposed to be es based until you get good gear, drop the energy shield nodes and put them all into life
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What did she mean by this?
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>>145960951
she means that kaom was an angry little boy, and he died , so now the world has one less angry little boy to deal with, unless you are referring to the odd use of the comma
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>>145960951
if kaom is a little boy then who is a big guy?
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>>145959770
>>
>I exiled an animal. Now you almost resemble a man, Karui.
Das racis
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At least this one guy was nice enough to tell you and it wasn't 10 of his friends colluding, right?
We did it rebbit!
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>over a week without fapping
>kinda want to fap
>can't find anything fap worthy
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this map trials make me want to kill myself
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