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I want John Morrison to be my dad edition

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>Attack route 66
>Reached every single checkpoint in overtime
>Barely clenched out the win

B a s e d
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th for Slippery Brazilian Man of Heals and Dubstep
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tracer
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i want to fuck the rabbit
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>>145534675
getting 500 coins is so much better than a dice roll
I mean think about it; even if you play every character in the game, winston, widow, zarya, lucio, mei, and genji's legendaries are all shit, and tracer has 2 shitty ones

I think mcree's are pretty bad too but that's just me
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I want Reaper to sit on my face.
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junkrat
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Widowmakers counter's:
>A better Widowmaker
>Winston? (headshot into spray and poison turns this into a skill match-up almost every time)
>...
>uh...
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>>145535212
Is my waifu
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>>145535212
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>>145535148
>slippery

retarded streamer kept spamming uncharged shots that can't out dps his heal. he shot lucio like 5 times.
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>>145535235
D.Va maybe?
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>card runs at 77C while playing Overwatch

jesus
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>try thinking of a hard counter to Dva
>literally everyone comes to mind

I don't understand how a hit and run giant crit box is a tank. She only seems viable for distraction. Her damage doesn't even make up for all her shortcomings.
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>>145535212
has the best lines out of every hero
>happy birthday
>ladies and gentlemen, start your engines
>[high pitched giggling]
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How would you fix her /v/
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>>145535235
genji
tracer on most maps
dva kind of, hopefully once she gets buffed she'll be better

>>145535317
yeah my card runs hot as shit too
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>play with randoms
>braindead, unresponsive and solely pick dps
>get frustrated and stop playing after a few rounds
>play with decent dudes
>they invite me to their group
>we win every game because they're decent, play what the team needs, and respond to communication
>on top of this you get a lot more xp just for being in a group

man I've been playing this game all wrong
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>>145535279
Charging shots just gives Lucio a bigger window to get behind you.
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>>145535148
could've just meleed the lucio back on 3 separate occasions for a kill.
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>tfw only able to kill people in recon mode
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Tracer is for bullying
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>>145535376
better spam shots that do literally no damage due to his self heal then ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>145535332
Increase movement speed while firing slightly

How about Zero Suit?
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>>145535403
How do you bully something that can leap through time
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>continuously outsnipe enemy sniper
>they switch to winston

one of the best feels
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How the fuck are people already level 200? Did some wow NEETs switch to overwatch?
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>>145535316
To be fair, I don't think he knew that Lucio had decided to melee him to death.
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>>145535439
bully them for eternity
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>TFW consistently getting gold medals for damage as zenyattah

Is this how he was ment to be played?


Also post best robot.
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>>145535470
dude some guy got to level 100 a day or two after launch

play well, play in groups, and you'll level up in no time
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>>145535451

>See enemy Pharah
>Both of us instantly take to the air and duel
>Get two body shots off
>They switch

CLEAR SKIES AHEAD
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>>145535430
Why would you ever stop firing besides when you're boosting
especially with unlimited ammo so you don't even have to waste time reloading
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did the hook grab zenyatta?
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So does Dva's defense shit have ANY use at all?
It's basically reinhart's shield but worse in every single fathomable way.
The only situation I can think of where it might have a use is if there's like 4 bastions all turret firing at you for 3 seconds or less because reinhart's shield would break but Dva's can't.

>mfw I occasionally remember I have a useless E key
>just EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE in chat
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>>145535430
more XP and give her a rifle or something
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>>145535364
>solely pick dps
I think I'm going to stop until random brawl comes out again.
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Did the patch screw something up? I'm playing all low to get higher frame rate but after the patch my fps went from ~120 to 80 and it's unplayable.
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>>145535078
>Everything but this is completely unreasonable and would remove what little unique mechanics this game got.
It would minimize cheap kills and the rock/paper/scissors bullshit that forces you to pick McCree, Junkrat, or Winston every other round. I don't know why anybody pretends the counterpick "balancing" is a good thing, or why it's good that games are won when two people press Q in the same thirty seconds

>>145534819
Just to make her slightly stronger. Her guns are pretty weak and it would give her slightly more practical damage when she can approach as people back off, and characters with mobility options can consistently escape 1V1s with her because she moves in five second increments.
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>>145535552
Eats Ultimates.
Gives you free reign to fuck turrets and snipers
Can stand in front of your 76/McCree and protect them while they ult..
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>>145535451
>enemy Widow shitting on my team
>switch to Widow to countersnipe
>rape her every time she engages me
>gets angry and switches to Winston
>keeps leaping straight at me and just tanking the shot to the face
>I'm always able to finish him off with my SMG
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>>145535430
Would a limited sprint for Zero Suit be okay?
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>>145535552
It's an ult eater.
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>>145535172
>genji's legendaries are all shit
I think Bedouin is one of the best legendary skins in the game. Simple concept, fits the kit, fresh design.
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D.VA skin when?
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>join game in progress
>manage to win somehow
>see the shitter you replaced getting memed on in POTG
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>>145535658
Absolutely not

Her hitbox is already very small and her gun is already very damaging
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>>145535569
yes. people have reported this issue.
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>>145535757
>tfw her gun is lower dps than Mercy's
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>>145535430
zero suit is fine as is, her strength is supposed to be her meka. in zero suit form she's supposed to be vulnerable as hell.

if I want to throw balance out the window I'd give her hanzo and genji's wallclimb ability
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>>145535430
Nothing. She's that way for a reason. Only thing I think would work is a reverse winston jetpack (propels you backwards). So if you're ulting on a whim because your mech got destroyed you can jump and press shift to get far away from it if needed. Also, it would have a long CD to dissuade you from staying in Zero Suit.
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>>145535641
>>145535662
>Eats Ultimates.
So does reinhart's shield if you're not retarded with its durability. Also there are very few ults it can eat that last less than THREE SECONDS
>Gives you free reign to fuck turrets and snipers
1) it's lasts THREE (3) SECONDS
2) if you try to shoot it auto cancels
>Can stand in front of your 76/McCree and protect them while they ult..
THREE
SECONDS
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FUUUUUUUCK I GOT THE SHITTIEST ONE
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>>145535757
Her gun is worse than Mercy's fampai.
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Are the changes to Mcree and Widow even nerfes?
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>melee in an FPS
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>>145535757
>>145535824
I suggested the sprint so you dont get nuked by yourself, maybe I'm just retarded but I don't think walls like protecting me
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>>145535852
Seconds are all you need if you're in an mmr where people can aim.
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>>145535865
the shittiest hockey lucio? maybe

the shittiest skin? hell no
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>>145535852
three seconds is plenty of time if you're not retarded
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>>145535865
That's the best one. It's the Gretzky skin.
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>>145535870
Nah, lowering DPS is actually a buff.
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>tfw I got a double solo-kill with Mercy's pistol on a Hanzo and Reaper
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>>145535852
>McCree needs more than three seconds of channel time
>Auto aiming soldier needs more than 3 seconds of uninterrupted fire
Are you level 8?
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>>145535865
at least you almost have enough to buy a legendary
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper

>>145535870
yes
fan damage is significantly lowered for mccree, which shoots down his tankbusting power that he shouldn't have in the first place

widow's bodyshots don't do much damage anymore so widow's hitscan can't instantly kill your zenyatta without having to aim for the head.
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>People haven't binded the Left Shift ability to C instead
What's it like, acting like a 6-fingered mutant and occasionally hitting caps lock and dying for it?
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>>145535732
Zarya skin when
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>Widow still 2-bodyshots the majority of the cast
>ult still the same
>unscoping delay
Wow it's literally fucking nothing.
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>>145535815
>>145535867
Is it really? I feel like I do way better with D.Va's pistol than Mercy's.
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>>145535972
>a shitty tracer keeps trying to kill me as Mercy
>team wont help
>take out gun and headshot her to death

its a good feel, I feel like not enough Mercy's use their pistol
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>>145535927
>>145535934
>>145535981
You guys are missing the point here.
Everything you're saying it can do can be done better by reinhart's shield.
What is the purpose of this action within the scope of the entire game?

For what reason would you ever say "Oh I'm going to need that high APM shit for this match"?
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>>145535852
the ability to basically nullify pharah, mccree, 76, and reaper ults (all at the same time too if you're lucky) with patience and good timing is quite powerful for a basic ability
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>every POTG is still flashbang, fan the hammer, roll, fan the hammer
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>>145536075
>occasionally hitting caps lock and dying for it
What's it like having Parkinson's disease?
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>>145536075
>occasionally hitting caps lock
Literally who does this?
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>>145535926
This is a slightly more unique solution to that issue >>145535836 but keeps you vulnerable as you should be afterwards. Sprint is stronger than you think and probably overkill. You can run away from most threats as 76 with it.
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>>145536136
Taking out turrets/bastions/murder hallways. It's a lot safer and lasts longer than the Rein shield if you're under heavy focus fire.
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>want to buy Torbjorn skin
>only use him on one map
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>>145536186
>tfw some retard I know bound emote to 'F' and keeps emoting in the middle of fights but refuses to change it back
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>>145536075
Bound is the past tense of bind.
Do you also accidentally hit caps when you type? You might have some sort of fine motor skills impairment friend. Or fucking fat sausage hands.
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>>145536170
are you on console or something?
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>Winston DPS on armor is completely negated by Orb of Harmony
Cannot counterfeit
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>>145535235
>playing widowafkmaker after the rescope nerf
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>>145535552
>Not cancelling out all of Pharah/McCree/Reaper ult
>Not protecting your offense while they stand behind you and kill the entire enemy team

Git gud, your bronze is showing.
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>>145536284
PC

mcshitters will still be shitters
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>>145536075
How small are your hands?
>>145536136
>Rein shield can take the full brunt of pharah's ult
>Rein's shield can stop Mei Ult
>Completely negating bastion's damage instead of getting torn through in 2 seconds by any focus fire
>don't move like a snail covered in molasses so your team can advance forward quickly instead of getting picked off
That's why
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>>145536136
nah, you're an idiot
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>don't play reaper or Winston because didn't think I'd like either at all
>reapers damage is insane and die die die gets me rock hard
>get addicted to giving snipers the hot monkey dick with Winston

This happen to anyone else. Find a character you really like you thought you'd hate?
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>>145536075
i bet you're one of those people who takes the windows key off their keyboard
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>>145536136
You're comparing one ability to one ability. You don't pick her for it, just like you don't pick Pharah for conc blast. You just have it as a tool.
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>>145536375
no. ive always loved zen and the widowmaker buff makes me happy
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>>145536421
To be fair Defense Matrix is the only ability D.Va even has and can offer to her team.

>Can't provide damage
>Can't tank damage
>Can't heal or support anyone else
>Essentially doesn't have an ultimate once you're above level 30

The only real way you can contribute as D.Va is to shoot at the enemy team from behind and boost away before they realize you can't actually hurt them.
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>>145534201
>I'm pointing out that his anti tank role is now gone
He was never supposed to have an anti tank role you colossal faggot.

He was supposed to do ok damage at mid range, shit on squishies, and (probably) win any close 1v1.

He still shits on squishies, still wins any 1v1 that's in a mile radisu, and still shreds tanks.
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>>145536362
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>Hanzo still not nerfed

?????
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It feels like McCree spam has been replaced with roadhog spam.

Today I played a dozen or more games and every single one had at LEAST one roadhog hook comboing constantly.
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>>145536038
>he shouldn't have in the first place
Who the fuck is going to kill Winston now? Will Bastion protect the route from the spawn? Reaper gets completely obviated by McCree.

Also, who will kill Zarya when she has a pocket mercy? It's legitimately somewhat difficult to mount the damage per second to do so if her team is nearby.

I don't get why people act like it was terrible that McCree killed tanks. Tanks were not weak. Did a bunch of Reinhardts want to chimp out with the hammer and cry when they got flashbanged out of killing people they weren't even looking at?
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>>145536091
Its marginally worse. Like 3% or something.
They're practically identical.
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>>145536591
bad
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>>145536572
>laptop
found your problem pal
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WHEN WILL PEOPLE STOP HITTING ZARYA'S SHIELD HOLY FUCKING SHIT
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>>145536537
>Payload is 3 meters from the end
>Place your ult on top of the payload
>Enemy either leaves so your team can push it in or they stay and die because Dva's ult has near infinite veritcal explosion range
Her ult can be useful, but probably the most situational ult in the entire game
>>145536572
Alright so your motor skills are just really off
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who's good vs reaper now
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>tfw average accuracy of 50% with McCree

This nerf did nothing to me.
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>>145536591
Explain
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>>145536661
Winston
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>>145535732
Why does her vag jut out so far
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>>145536591
Hanzo is fine.
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>>145535541
I don't think he meant don't hinder her movement when firing at all, just make it less severe

As it is its barely more mobile than sentry form bastion
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>>145536537
>flank as Dva
>all backs turned
>this should be the moment this character shines
>fire
>tickling everyone so lightly they're ignoring me
>Whoa there...
>popped and dead in seconds

Fuck this awful hero.
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>>145536686
Not even close
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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Does anyone have any of the webms showing the Widowmaker shot being autotargeted to someone's head?

I remember you guys used to post them constantly
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>>145536610
McCree's fan did 420 damage if you landed all 6 shots, which is easy enough to do but there was no other character in the game that could do that much damage that quickly without using an ult.

Even a lot of ults can't compare to that much damage. It was, quite frankly, ridiculous as hell to have that much damage.
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>>145535332
Give her Junkrat's gun.
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>>145536258
It would take a LOT to make reinhart's shield go down in 3 seconds.
But that's the absolute max for this ability.
Comparing the exception of one to the rule of the other.
>Rein shield can take the full brunt of pharah's ult
Yes.
Also if pharah is at any disctance but point blank the Dva cant catch everything and will get hit on the sides.
>Rein's shield can stop Mei Ult
>implying mei's ult is a threat
>ever
>Completely negating bastion's damage
For 3 seconds. Then you're left with the largest headshot hitbox in the game as he finishes the magazine because he can fire longer than 3 seconds (but he would most likely stop the second you pop it leaving even more to shred you with)
>don't move like a snail so your team can advance
For 3 seconds....
>>145536421
The best point so far but still it feels utterly useless. I play a bunch of Dva and I can't remember the last time I got decent mileage out of it for anything.
99% of the time there's a reinhart or it's just completely unnecessary.
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reminder that junkrat is canonically gay and roadhog fucks him
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I can buy one, so what legendary skin should I get? I play everyone.
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>>145535317
90
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>mcnigger flashbangs you
>cant even kill after two fans

EAT SHIT
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>>145536654
>Place your ult on top of payload
>Enemy stands along the side of the payload and crouch
>Ult explodes harmlessly

It might be a bug but her ult can't hurt you when you're crouching unless it's on the same side and level as you.
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>>145536075
>>145536186
>>145536215
>>145536280
>>145536362
>>145536410
>People actually use Shift/E/Q
>They literally do
>They're arguing about it
Move out of 2000's and buy yourselves a mouse with thumb buttons. Your life quality and gaming experience will improve drastically.
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>>145535212
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Mcree's nerf didnt do jack shit
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>>145536661
Being moderately away from him.
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>>145536796
My thumb buttons are push to talk and voice line.
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>fierce stalemate while in WP:G
>ground-to-air duel between me as dad:76 and some enemy pharah
>zarya and roadhog facing off
>widowmakers fucking around with angled popshots
>mei and mccree vying for position of most crowd-controls in one game
>competent zenyatta versus overworked healslut mercy
>our lazy bastion versus their assault torbjorn

Haven't felt good about winning a game in a long time.
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>>145536610
>Who will kill the tanks
Reaper
Junkrat
McCree's who can aim
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>>145536323
I barely felt that change since I don't like using exploits ok
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>>145536686
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>barely nerf mccree
>barely nerf widowmaker

>HANZO STILL NOT NERFED


LOL GOOD GAME OVERTARDS
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You guys know I can't heal you with Lucio unless you're in my eyesight, right?

>thinking sound travels around walls

What a bunch of nuts.
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>>145536750
>It was, quite frankly, ridiculous as hell to have that much damage.
Why? Why the fuck do you want three tanks as mandatory picks? The current damage for FtH is pretty much identical for most of the squishier characters (instant death), it's not like it really affects those match ups in any considerable way. Somebody has to kill tanks, they aren't supposed to live forever.
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>>145536713

I've died like this before

I had to check the Roadhog's name to make sure it wasn't me
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>5 People already locked in and no support
>Fuck you, we're all soldier now
>Nature runs its course
The guy that went lucio at the very last point is the exact reason I don't fucking play peer-pressure-support anymore
If you wanted to win you shouldn't play in forced 50 queue and get a group instead
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>Volskaya Industries
>On Offense
>Enemy team is turtled up hard on B
>Our team can't quite get the push needed
>I switch to torb, start dropping turrets on the floating platforms
>Build up to full charge in no time
>Drop another turret
>Wait for it to start shooting
>Hit Q, rush the point
>Kill 3 people with the turret, another one with my shotgun
>Our team offs the other two I don't know where
>Offensive Torb POTG, gave us the win

I hate offensive torbs most of the time but that really worked out for us.
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>>145536907
You're going to get yelled at for it and people are going to blame you for not following them into deathtraps instead of pushing the payload / capping the point.
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>characters walk speeds are slow as molasses

General speed buff when?
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>>145536780
Bullshit. He's high-test and wants to fuck mei.
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>Trying to git gud
>Start learning muh maps
>Tfw win match because of map awareness

I'm usually complete shit, so god damn does it feel good.
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>>145536931

you too?

>oh shit that better not be me
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>>145536789
98

think my pc gonna die soon
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>>145536796
shift isn't at a bad pos, I use it all the time comfortably, but I also have big and dextrous hands because I've been playing bass since I was a wee lad
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>>145536796
I use 3 of my thumb buttons for different PTT chats.
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>>145536789
I'm in the same boat as you
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>>145536910
Junkrat
Reaper
soldier 76
Pretty much anyone with decent damage considering you can hit tanks with everything considering how huge they are
The problem with someone who can push out damage that fast in such a safe combo, they don't just kill tanks, THEY KILL EVERYONE
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>>145535212
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>>145536965
https://a.pomf.cat/tsmkgh.mp3
this plays sometimes when he kills roadhog
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>>145536898
Hanzo doesn't need to be nerfed, they just need to fix his arrow hitbox.
>>145536858
>tfw a stalemate at Volskaya Industries point B was broken by our Lucio speed-boosting all of us into the point like a madman and ult'ing as soon as he got onto it
>POTG wasn't even the play that made the game, but the enemy Roadhog pushing two people off the map with his ult
I wanted to see what Madman Lucio did from his perspective!
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>>145536864
>Reaper
Reaper has to be in melee range to do any damage, his damage is almost as bad as D.Va's past three feet. Popping ults to kill tanks is a waste too.

>Junkrat
Junkrat can't kill an enemy who knows he's there, his only strength is picking off people with random grenades or shooting them from behind. His DPS is too low to kill a tank anyway without reloading, even if he hit every single grenade.


>McCree's who can aim
McCree no longer has the damage or survivability to kill tanks. He needs a buff to health since he's practically useless after the nerf.
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>>145536898
Why does Hanzo need a nerf?
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>>145536692
puffy
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HAHAHAHAHAHA NO MORE 1HK COMBOS FOR YOU FAGGOTS

MORE LIKE SUICIDEWATCH KEK
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>>145535317
>amd card burns at a spicy 91~94 at all times
>even with multiple fan upgrades

I might switch to liquid coolant or something. This is worrying.
>>
>>145536991
>Winning a match
>BECAUSE of map-awareness
Explain.
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>>145536940
And then random chance rewards me for it
Good feelings all around
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>>145537060
>They just need to fix his arrow hitbox

It's not the arrows, it's the head hitboxes for players.
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>>145537071

Everything here wrong.
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Reminder to say "gg ez" after every game to trigger redditors.
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>>145536910
>Why?
Counterpoint : Why should he have a right-click that does more damage than most people's ults?

Why should his right click do more damage than a fully-charged widow headshot?

(250 for the headshot, vs 420 for the old FTH)

McCree's damage was broken, they fixed it. The only people who think it was a bad fix are the people who are upset they can't get super easy combo kills anymore. Hell, even post-fix you can easily take out 60% of the heroes in the game with a single fan.
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>>145536910
>How about we make mccree shit on squishies
ok
>and shit on tanks
uh
>AND shit on literally anything in a remote radius
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Someone post Tracer crying
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>>145537154
It's both, actually. The shitty head hitboxes + Hanzo's giant arrow hitboxes work together to create a bunch of bullshit.
>>145537118
>tfw my AMD card never runs that hot even though I live in California
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Is anyone else lagging like crazy today?

Fucking crashed out of a game a little while ago, and my last game was still laggy as all hell.
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>see a mcree
>I don't instantly get melted anymore
>I can actually fight back

I like this patch
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>>145537071
>Reaper
Exaggeration.
Reaper's spread isn't that huge.
>Junkrat
There's six players in a game, He's not soloing those people.
He also has concussion mine and does decent aoe damage.
McCree headshots do 140 damage, if McCree can aim, he can kill a rein/zarya/roadhog far out of their effective range.
Stop crying McCree main, sorry you aren't allowed to fan for your free kills anymore.
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>>145537189
It was a bad fix because the damage numbers were so ridiculous even cutting them in half barely changes anything.
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>>145536869
>I barely felt that change since I'm a shitter
Please refrain from posting your opinion here.
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>>145537134
Being able to flank them where they think they're safe, I guess. I realised you could use Phara/Genji at the end of attack on King's Row, and people always get caught of guard there because they just see it as an instant death-zone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP4YeF_7jNs
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>>145537134
Knowing where all the hideyholes and health pickups are in any given map is a useful tactic.

For example, there's a fair few nooks and crannies in King's Row while pushing the payload from point one to point two. Reapers and McCrees love to hide in these holes like the cowards that they are and wait for the enemy team to pass before fucking their shit up.

>>145537228
>california
Your first problem is living in the Fire Nation.

>>145537182
It's as if thirteen-year-old girls and fifteen-year-old boys can't take a joke.
>>
>get a dogshit hanzo on OFFENSE that accomplishes nothing the entire time
>call his shit out once we lose
>he and his duo fuckbuddy get on my ass for picking Junkrat of all things
>says he picked Hanzo because "he needed to counter torbjorn"

it isn't fair

it just isn't fair
>>
>>145537228
Go test Hanzo's arrows and then test another projectile like Mei's M2 or Genji's shurikens.

They'll all have the same gratuitous hit detection, because the issue is not the projectile collision box, but the hitbox on the player model.
>>
>Become pretty gud with D.Va
>sweet 60+ winrate
>haven't played for 2 days
>barely 50/50 with 6/6 average k/d
>POTG all over a place
>switch to Junkrat
>even worse w/r
>POTG
>POTG
Damn it
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>>145537071
You must be really bad at Reaper and Junkrat.

Bad netcode and a little liberal firing toward the neck, and further down with distance make for very easy kills. Shit, you can chip down runners easy enough.

> His DPS is too low to kill a tank anyway without reloading, even if he hit every single grenade.
Solo maybe, but throw in a second or two of distance or distraction (or your own trap or boosted jump) and tanks just turn into grenade magnets. Dva are like pinatas.
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>>145537292
fuck off exploiting faggot and learn how to use her legitimately
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>>145537292
headshot damage is unchanged so if they didn't feel it then they wouldn't be a shitter
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>>145537071
>his dps is too low to kill a tank without reloading
>120 per grenade
>five grenades
>120 for his bullshit mine
>he can literally kill every single tank with 4 grenades and his mine if you don't count Roadhog's healing in which case he has time to reload, throw the trap under his feet and lob more till he's dead

Junkrat is the most disgusting damage dealer in the game and his splash is as big as Pharahs with no damage falloff.
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>tfw landing all 3 lucio bursts on the head
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>>145536661
still mcree, hit him with your fist
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>>145537212
no
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>the planets align and I do a pentakill kill as a fucking Reinhardt
>POTG goes to the enemy Mercy reviving them
>they all get immediately killed again as my team arrives
Okay
Yeah okay
>>
>>145537212
>>145537372
This, as a ship, makes no sense to me whatsoever. I don't think they even have interactions.
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>>145537291
It's drastically better now, he's still strong but nowhere near as broken as he was previously. It's a good fix.
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Anyone else thinks that Mercy's ult should be completely reworked? As it stands it's the most powerful (and the fastest to charge) in the whole game. She'll always be an autopick in any competitive comp as long as it remain as it is. Matches basically come down to Attackers pushing -> Die -> Mercy ress -> Everybody ults -> Defense is now dead, unless they have their own Mercy -> Win
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Fool or hayseed for junkrat I can't decide
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>>145535317
>not putting your card in the freezer
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>>145537362
but lucio shot bursts of 4
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>character I hate the most have a near 100% win rate with
>it's genji
>character I think I suck at is my second best, with just below 80%
>it's tracer
>character I'm always on and consider my main, D.Va, has a ~50% win rate
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>>145537362
>tfw there's actually 4 projectiles in his burst
>>
>>145536864
>Reaper
Blown out by McCree who will still be picked almost all the time in comp because he still has above average DPS at nearly every range and can throw flashbang over Rein's shield

>Junkrat
This is more fair, but not really a great counter. He has to hit quite a few shots on individual targets which is very rare unless he manages to trap them.

>McCree's who can aim
McCree will have to be at midrange before he can reliably unload his magazine several times without dying. At this point you might as well just say Widowmaker, and McCree will also get countered by Winston.

>>145537189
>Counterpoint : Why should he have a right-click that does more damage than most people's ults?
Because otherwise several tanks are fucking broken. The difference is negligible for 90% of characters. The only bullshit this discourages is fanning into crowds of enemies at midrange, but even then you could just nerf FtH so it has a lot of damage falloff.

>>145537040
>soldier 76
Against some tanks but really not the relevant ones, especially not when Reinhardt is a mandatory pick.
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>>145537303
>posting the tiny version
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>>145537303
>You can go under the health room
Huh. The more you know.
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>>145537427
it makes more sense than pharah/mercy because at least it doesn't have the creep factor of being in a relationship with your dead coworker's daughter
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>>145537361
uh... uhh.. He has to track his shots! that's it! He isn't that damaging if he can't land the shots!
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>>145537430
It's better I'll give you that.

It still deletes anything that's not a tank.
Deletes Dva, Winston, and Reinhardt too.

The only person it doesn't instantly kill outright is street pig.
>>
>finally have the money to upgrade my PC
>planned on doing it immediately but instead got to wait until the 480 comes out at the end of this month

Just a couple more weeks of suffering until salvation
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>>145537427
Makes as much sense as the homoships do.
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>>145537212
>people depict Genji as anything other than Zenyatta's unruly pupil

For what purpose?
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>>145537456
how can you live with yourself being this much of an enabler

>>145537546
>AMD

don't do this to yourself
>>
TOBLERONES

STOP PLAYING HIM LIKE TF2 ENGIE

YOU'RE USELESS LIKE THAT
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>>145537372
do it !
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>>145537463
>>145537467
I've been using him for 6 hours now and I haven't noticed.
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>>145537427
It's cute, it doesn't have to make sense. It's totally not because I can easily self insert as Genji or anything
>>
>>145537580
but what if I play battle engi?

and not mini sentry bullshit either
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>>145537469
>Reaper won't work because McCree is still really good at everything
THEN
WHY
ARE
YOU
COMPLAINING?
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>>145537575
>he fell for the Jewvidia meme
>he wants others to fall for the Jewvidia meme as well
>>
Why is KOTH fucking cancer shit always

>1st round always a win
>2nd round a loss
>3rd round a clusterfuck who fucking knows

fuck this game mode i fucking HATE it
>>
>>145537492
Try dying within melee range of your enemies path

Your deathrattle grenades will need to be lead but will do the job
>>
>>145537609
How the fuck can you easily insert yourself as Genji?
>>
>>145537530
That's OK as long as they don't give up my roadhog Shift-Click instakill combo I don't give a fuck
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>>145537490
>>145537553
It's fine. I mean, Genji is coming to terms the limitations and powers of his new body and Tracer knows all about that life, in a sense, so I can see it happening.

I like the lesbian homoships, but vanilla relationships are the best.
>>
YOUNG
PUNKS
GET
OFF
MY
LAWN
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>>145537647
maybe he's also a cyborg ninja with a yakuza brother that tried to murder him.
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>Blizzard will keep nerfing heroes
>Focus more on skins and crates
>They'll never buff the heroes that need it like D.Va, Zenyatta, and Winston
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How does this make you feel /owg/?
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>>145537647
How can it be difficult?
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>McCree player butthurt at the nerf and posts a fucking wall of text about it on facebook
>>
>>145537620

I have decent PCs with both, AMD drivers are pure shit. If anything you're being the jew for buying an inferior product to save a few shekels

Maybe if AMD put as much effort into coding drivers as they did marketing their hancho en mexico cards they'd be worth buying.
>>
>there are people who think score/minute actually means something
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Mei and Junkrat is the best ship.
But it doesn't matter.
I just want someone to post crying Tracer.
>>
>>145537718
like this guy's pic
>>145537712
>>
>>145537712
But they've already talked about incoming D.Va buffs and Zenyatta is on the list of heroes that were nerfed.

And Winston absolutely does not need buffs. Are you crazy?
>>
>>145537664
Just give the hook a non-retarded hitbox and we're fine.

It's annoying to get hooked well behind a well (or just nowhere near the hook)
>>
>>145537718
Stage 3: Denial
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ANGER STAGE 2: THE ANGERING
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>>145537718
Indifferent as I already have the legendaries I want.
>>
>>145537438
i consistently beat mercy teams as zen without trying, maybe you should get better at the game
>>
>>145537718
i've played hearthstone since it was in beta, doesn't do much of anything to me anymore.
>>
>enemy wins Hanamura defense at point B
>gg
>same enemy team fails Anubis Point A
>no words
>4 of them leave
S A L T
A
L
T
>>
>>145537747
>AMD drivers are pure shit
Maybe in 2012.
>>
Pharah
>high damage
>high mobility
>good range
How can anyone compete?
>>
>>145537354
Has nothing to do with damage.
>>
>People think Reaper can actually kill anyone competent

Reaper is what you pick when you play the game for the first time. Anyone with more than an hour of gametime already knows how to counter him and stay out of his range. He's fucking worthless unless the enemy team ignores you and lets you shoot them in the back.

He'll never replace McCree in effectiveness. The game's broken in favor of defense heroes now.
>>
so what can save this dead fucking game?
>30 second queue times
fuck this
>>
>>145537821
Any class with hitscan.
reeeeee
>>
>>145535212
SHINY AND CHROME
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>>145537814
does doom even run on AMD yet?
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Just imagine Junkrat giggling like a girl while he fills a Blueberry muffin with cream.
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>>145537821
>High mobility
did you mean hitscan target practice?
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>>145537637
Because it is the only mode that is kinda like TDM
>>
>>145537876
nah
>>
>kill enemy team numerous times as monkey
>was on fire nearly entire match
>gold medals across the board
>Potg goes to a single hanzo assisting me in killing a phara ult
i'm sorry what
>>
>>145537821
>high damage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>
>>145537712
>D.va confirmed getting a buff

Why are you such a retard?
>>
>enemy stack of combined 600+ levels
>all with legendary skins
>allied pug of combined 200 levels

what the FUCK did i do to deseve this
>>
How do I become a good Zenyatta- no the BEST Zenyatta I must become good
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So when the fuck are they going to remove eliminations? It's fucking stupid.

>Manage to beat someone in a 1v1
>Another person shares the credit for your kill because they tapped them on the ass for 1HP five minutes ago
>Can't see proper KDA to know who is leeching off the good players on the team
>Shitters are rewarded for playing badly because the game credits them with things they didn't do
>No incentive for shitters to get good
>>
>>145537941
hit e on people that seem to be doing stuff. aim well.
>>
>>145537876
no
>>
>>145537779
I think the problem is more in the fuckhuge gigantic player hitboxes than just the hook.
>>
>>145535332
give her a right click that either does aeo damage or aoe knockback, probably the latter in some kind of wall form that bursts out for a few yards infront of the mech.
>>
>>145537923
three hits kill any non-tank hero in the game.
>>
>>145537614
He's not good at killing tanks now, he's just better than most other heroes while still dominating the other characters who can kill tanks.
>Blizzard makes an FPS with DPS and tanks because they're retards
>balance characters so poorly they have to introduce a pick character like McCree to kill everybody
>take away his damage so he specifically cannot kill tanks
>still rolls over the DPS heroes
>now DPS heroes are largely mediocre picks who get nullified by flashbang when they're close enough to hurt tanks
>tanks are now absurdly strong
>games will be two Zaryas trying to kill each other for ten minutes and succeeding two or three times
Completely fucking shit balancing, from inception. Having to put McCree into the game at all should have made them reconsider their design choices.
>>
>>145537840
>>People think Reaper can actually kill anyone competent
>He's fucking worthless unless the enemy team ignores you and lets you shoot them in the back.
You're not supposed to play him as soldier 76. You play him as the Spy
>>
>>145537821
Most pharah players can't track well enough to hit their targets reliably. Those who can have to deal with high-speed characters simply dodging their bullets or even negating/reflecting the damage

It's not that she's a bad character in any regard. It just takes a bit of work to make her good.

>>145537876
You mean Hanzo stuffing up that blueberry, right?
>>
>>145537821
>mediocre health
>Always gets shot during her ult

Even mcree can compete
>>
>>145537438

Her ult is perfectly fine, it requires her teammate/s to die and for her to stay alive. Considering the game is designed around every team always needing a support it's good that at least one of them has a useful ult.
>>
>>145537941
Download grindr on your phone

Get good at putting your balls in people's face

Transfer skills to Overwatch
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>>145537718
Stage 5: Acceptance.
>>
>>145537465
You do not have a large enough sample size of games with the other two for your win rate to be statistically significant
>>
>>145537964
I actually prefer it this way because to me it looks like it encourages teamwork. Besides, you get points depending on the health percentage you took from the enemy anyways
>>
>>145537778
>>145537927
As if they'll fucking go through on their promises. Keep in mind it's Blizzard you're listening to. All they'll do is nerf heroes that people complain too much about and then focus on their cash shop.
>>
>>145537964
>>Can't see proper KDA to know who is leeching off the good players on the team
That's the A part anon.
>>
>>145537821
having high mobility in overwatch isn't saying much. They're all slow as molasses unless you got a lucio
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>>145537964
>I play for my sick KDA
>People who damage a hero shouldn't be credited, I GOT THE LAST HIT
>I can't have a scoreboard so I can call my team niggers for not doing as well as me, the god of overwatch
Embarrassing.
>>
>>145538012
How do identify a shitty player:

>always gets shot when she jumps up into the air and uses her ult when nothing else is going on
>this is clearly the only way to use it, it's a design of the character itself
>there is no possibility that I'm just retarded and am using it improperly
>>
>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
>>
>>145535552

it doesn't have a damage limit
you can use it from range
it doesn;t have a speed pentalty
its AOE, so for example

>reaper jumps onto your team
if you're Reinhardt, everyone behind you is safe but everyone else is dead

with D.va, the entire space he exists in is enclosed and he deals no damage to anyone

her defense matrix is very useful in different ways compared to Reinhardt
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>>145535332
I would probably do some internal testing to see what it's like for her to have a gun like her pilot form light gun as an alternate fire for midrange skirmishing.
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>>145537718
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>>145537964
>play based Torb
>rape enemy team with turret
>43 kills
>wins
>spam git gud in the end
>All this salt
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>McCree players this mad about the nerf
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>>145538120
it's a meme at this point she dies at the middle of her ult and I keep seeing it happen all the time when I play haha
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>>145537718
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>>145538063
It takes about as much effort to buff a hero as it does to nerf them.
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>>145536803
kek'd at filename
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>>145537964
>be Mercy
>get no credit for eliminations my patient gets while I'm damage boosting/healing them
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>>145537479
Didn't know there was one, cheers anon.

>>145537487
Get learning anon, it'll help you out in a tight spot.
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Is it possible for a person like this to be legit ?

http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/pc/us/ole-1741 .

Just look at hid K/D, winrate and he's top rank for the Heroes he plays.
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>>145535212
Is my favorite
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>>145538189
>widowmaker_ignores_the_payload
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>>145538004
This is accurate.

OW is lazily designed and poorly thought out. Just look at how much filler space is in the maps.
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>>145538189
>she's staying on the objective
>her teammates fucking around
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>>145538247
>"kek'd at something that isn't funny"
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>>145538201
fuck the red zenyatta
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>>145538189
Makes me think of symmetra putting her sentries while pharah and mercy make out in the background.

Can't think of a filename tho
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Playing Mercy is by no means a thankless task, despite what attention seeking healsluts say, but it's fucking infuriating when nobody even lifts a finger to help you out when people are trying to kill you.

> Focused all game as Mercy by Mc'Ribs, Winstons and Widows because the enemy know how to play video games. Unlike my team, who don't appear to be able to turn around.
> Close to no opportunities for a res that revives more than one player.
> Mfw game ends with a loss, someone says "No good rez all game"

Remember when you see a mercy on your team, help them to help you.
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>>145538269
This is pretty stupid.
What's the point of having both assists and eliminations?
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>>145538164
is that a black guy or is that just the back of someone's head/hair
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>>145538189
>gold objective time again
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>>145538353
You wouldn't have to deal with that if you played Lucio. You'd be able to handle those guys while healing at the same time.
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>>145538164
>Console player
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>>145538189
This have been my experience with pharah-mercys

never doing any thing fucking useful objective wise and going for MUH FRAGS
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>>145538201
>mcskill and blueberry nerf
>seeing a zen on each team now
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>>145538353
Play lucio and spam the fart gun, only good thing Mercy does is her ult. She's kind of a worse lucio outside of that.
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On the range is a geat skin.
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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>>145538201
>mfw saw two different Zenyatta PotGs today

Overwatch is finally a fun game.
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>Someone DCs in the last 30 seconds of a defense
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>sorry for...dropping in
I don't get this line. Is it meant to be clever? Why the smug delivery?
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>>145538007
No I mean Gérard pumping his wife up with love nectar.
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>>145538164
average xbox player
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>>145538410
You're not wrong, I probably should have switched to Lucio when it became clear I was playing with tunnel vision retards.

>>145538462
I'm a massive fan of having both Lucio and Mercy on a team. We only had me as support, and we had some Pharahs so I wanted those tasty damage boosts.
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>no one picks tank or healer
>leave if there's no tanks
>always pick Lucio for healer
When will mystery brawls be back?
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>>145538298
>large distances between spawn and objective in maps like hanamura, point gibraltar and volskaya industries
>Takes 20 fucking seconds to reach the objective
>Because characters walk super slow

Even tracer takes some time to get to the objective, the speed character. They fucked up
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>>145538513
>two guys that joined together leave 5 seconds before KOTH match begins
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>>145538353
There is no cure for stupidity.
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>>145538574
The better thing to do, out of sheer spite, would be to become S:76 and tell them that if they want healing, they have to get on the point / push the payload / contest the point.

Force them to do the objective.
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>>145538287
Yeah the level is rather low for his winrate.

He's clearly leaving any lost game and taking the EXP Penalty
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>>145538530
He's not sorry anon.
His dropping in was intentional.
He entirely meant to jump into the enemy and disrupt their efforts.
Quite the jolly show, if I do say so myself
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>>145538353
>play mercy frequently because I got the game 2 days ago and I'm still low enough ranked that people are retarded and think healing is more boring than SHOOT BANG WEEEEEEEEEEE
>always tell them "If I can see you I can heal you. Don't stray too far."
>3 second later genji runs across the map into a clusterfuck of 6 bastions
>gets eviscerated
>"WTF NO HEALS"
Every time.
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Are they removing multiples of the same hero? Someone in my game said they were. That's really lame if true
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>>145537249
Man I just thought about it.
This game needs hats. Or other assorted bling your character can wear.
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>>145538587
I like spawn camping people as tracer on maps with long walk times
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>>145538513
>Join in a route 66 attack
>10 seconds left
>Literally one person on the team, everyone else was just-joined scabs
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>>145538584
>always pick Lucio for healer
Lucio is the best healer.
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>>145538462

She is a few tiers above lucio outside of koth, she heals for far more and is the only viable defensive side support thanks to her support.
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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>>145538658
Not in quick play.

Competitive, more than likely yes.
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>tfw wanna main a hero for a week but never able to make a choice because i can only play really good at the hero that i pick by feeling at that moment

anyone can relate?
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>>145538607
ive had multiple games where 3-4 people leave together

I really hate this "dynamic queue" system as it actively punishes you for playing solo
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Question

What does dying to stacked Junkrat traps look like on the killcam?

Is it just a 1st person view of rat getting TRIGGERED and pushing the button or is it an aerial view of the poor soul?

I've never actually died to stacked traps
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>>145538353
>Playing as D.VA
>See mercy chilling a bit back from the frontlines while her team is fighting us
>Decide to go hunt her
>HIS 5 FUCKING TEAMMATES TURN AROUND AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THE COMES FOR ME
>My team barely kills 2 of them while the 5 are distracted mauling me to death
>Finally die, kill one of them, leaving 3
>Those 3 use their ults and make the final push
>we lose

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>145538694
She's good if a tank needs immediate heals in a big choke but most of the time lucio is better.
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>>145538694
>she heals for far more
Lucio heals six people at a time, while mercy can only heal one
>Only viable defensive side support
Lucio gets the team back to the point much faster if they get killed and can hold people off the payload by jumping around it way more than a mercy can
>>145538753
>Main
No, because I'm not an idiot.
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>>145536136
to add to my reaper example here >>145538147 it can be sued offensively, as if if its your reaper diving into the enemy team, you can turn on APM and he becomes near invulnerable and safe to use his ult

you can stick Mcree in the same position and he's free to HIIIIIIIIIIGH NOOOOOOOOON out in the open or Pharah during her ult to keep her safe

ever have roadhog ult you? how did Reinhardt's shield hold up? where you still in the same spot protecting your team?

D.va's defense matrix is a very powerful tool

you lack imagination
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>>145538678
Agreed. But I want to play Overwatch not Luciowatch.
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>>145538704
>competitive will have no relation to the actual game

what's the fucking point then
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>>145537840
Eh, competent players can give him the business if he's alone and managed. But Reaper is great antitank material.
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Am I the only one that thinks overtime needs to be redone?
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>>145538820
Competitive as in ranked mode I'm guessing.
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>>145538820
You see multi-classing a whole lot less in Overwatch (mostly because there's 21 classes and 6 slots) so it's less of an integral part of the game.

I still think TF2 "competitive" is a joke though, 6s in there are some of the funniest shit.
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>mfw I play Okami Hanzo and get PotG by pressing Q
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>>145538768
I hate le artifacts-png-only fags as much as the next guy but this image is just terrible.
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>>145538770

And then you play as mercy and you get hunted down by the enemy while your team does jack shit to help you.

Fuck this shit. I'm going lucio, he's a strong black independent man who needs no help
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>>145538884

No, there's plenty of other shitters
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>Ilios, Round 1
>Enemy D.Va misjudges how far boost goes, runs out just over the edge of the well, falls in.
>Ilios, Round 2
>Enemy D.Va swapped to Reinhardt, ulted and misjudged how far it would go
>Completely wiffed, the Reinhardt stands there for a moment before leaving the match
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>why aren't professional hockey players also professional basketball players lmao they can hardly even be called athletes
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>>145538189

...sauce?
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>>145538984
>Illios
>playing as lucio
>Roadhog hooks me and lets me fall
>I wall slide back to the top from nearly the bottom of the pit
>I'm healing my teammates while climbing back to the top
>Finally get out of the pit
>LET'S BREAK IT DOOOOWN!
>Team vanishes the enemy
>We hold them off the point for the rest of the match

You don't fuck a nigga
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>>145538797
>he doesnt main a hero each week thereby learning every ins and outs of said hero so you can be valuable in any team compisation

yeah

i sure am an idiot
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>it's an "enemy team takes back the point at 99%" episode
Fucking game should just round up this shit happens TOO often and it's aggravating.
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>>145535552
>So does Dva's defense shit have ANY use at all?

turbo shitter detected
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So I just heard about the nerfs, did they actually work? Like are mcskill and bluberry actually ok to fight against now (aside from the obvious zen not getting insta gibbed by bodyshots)?
I'm kinda sad about the scope animation though, I liked popping the scope in and out during downtime
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New heroes when?
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>>145539109
>main

yeah actually, you are an idiot
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>>145537718
ANGER
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>>145537941
the key to playing zen basically comes down to knowing when to take cover and when to go apeshit. he's all about balance.

his orbs have travel time. switching healing targets comes with a delay, so switching rapidly will reduce the amount of healing you do. try to heal each teammate to full before you switch, if you can.

also, because of the travel time, anticipating who's most likely to get shot at next is a good skill to develop. if you see your pharah use her jetpack, for example, it's practically guaranteed that she's gonna take damage real soon.

always be looking around - footsteps are good, but genji is quiet, and a wraithing reaper is silent. you're a magnet for flankers, but you're equipped to deal with them. jump in your teammate's faces if you get overwhelmed.

if you see a sniper or really anyone on a catwalk to the side or behind, even for a second, spam your orbs there. hopefully your team will notice and flush them out.

if it's too hot to risk attacking, just throw discord on somebody and duck back into cover.

use the LOS timer to your advantage. put harmony on a flanker just before they disappear down a side passage. put it back on your tank (or anyone who's injured) when it comes back.

if you see a flanker or assault in a 1v1, that is your ideal time to attack. harmony, discord, spam orbs, win. your teammates are a lot better at protecting you when you protect them.

use your ult liberally, it charges fast. you can use it to get save yourself, to stall objectives, or to be an asshole and get up in enemies' faces so they can't see what they're aiming at. it's good for shutting down enemy ults, but it's also good for keeping your team alive during theirs. my favorite use for it is to hop in the middle of a blizzard dropped on my team. fuck mei.
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>>145539107
>>145538984

>Ilios
>casting Lucio ult right next to well
>get smacked into the air
>Oh let's break it .............................
>............
>do-UAAAAAGHHHH!
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>>145538797

His heal is minimal and outside of koth if you have all 5 teammates taking damage at the same time you're fucked regardless. Getting people back to the point defensively is a completely irrelevant thing to say, if you play mercy you can heal them for more to prevent deaths and do 1x/2x revives to keep up objective presence. The problem is that Lucio is built for timing pushes and his ultimate takes a fairly long time to build up, on the offensive side you can bide your time and prepare for specific pushes as Lucio but on the defensive side you cannot. Defensively you don't just have to win 1 fight to win the point but instead have to fend off the attackers for sometimes 10-12 individual teamfights, Lucio cannot handle this pressure and will only have his ult a few times to use throughout a game. Meanwhile Mercy has her ultimate up for every single teamfight and provides counterplay to everything in the game.

Even on the offensive side Mercy still outperforms Lucio in most comps thanks to her revive, instead of putting it all on one push she can go in with her team and revive mid fight to turn a 3v3 situation back into a 3v5 or 6, not to mention having an offensive mercy helps counter the defensive one. Double support setups are lovely, give me a Mercy+Zen instead of a Lucio any day of the week.
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>>145535852
can completely cancel mei and hanzo ult if you're in the right place at the right time. might block zarya ult too, never tried
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finally got a yellow lads
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>friends are all shit at Overwatch
>don't wanna soloQ
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>>145537096
>MORE LIKE SUICIDEWATCH KEK

n1
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>>145539159
Do you have a reading comprehension? ten again im asking a d.va poster so thats probably gonna be a yes
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>>145538937
I'm sorry I got it off facebook
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>>145539109
>Take 21 weeks to get moderately okay at each hero
>He thinks he needs an entire week to learn how to play Winston/Mercy/Zarya/TorbJorn
Yeah, you are an idiot
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>Tracer's VA gets her nudes leaked
glorious day
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>>145539112
>enemy takes back the point at 99% and wins from 0%

it's like someone letting you win at arm wrestling then fucking you in the ass
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>>145539148
McSkill is still mostly as cancerous as ever (they even lowered his reload time)

Blueberry is somewhat less of a nuisance if they only go for bodyshots.
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>>145539148
blueberry still broken

;/
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>>145537718
AT LEAST RANDOMIZE WHERE THE BLUE IS FUCK'S SAKE
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>Roadhog misses hook on turret Bastion

Why do I get these teammates.
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>>145537964
the enemy is dead, and you can advance. that's all that matters.

you win as a team, and you lose as a team.
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>>145535852
you can boost while shielding, which is much better mobility than reinhardt's got
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>>145539112
>Take point back at 99%
>There's overtime despite us cleaning the whole point
>Enemy tracer manages to come back and reset the overtime
>they all unleash their ults on us
>We lose

Thanks blizzard
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>>145537597

Is this the one you are looking for?
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>>145539212
>ten again
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>>145539197
best yellow in the game
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>>145539232
>enemy outclasses us but we have a lucio and they only have a mercy
>get the point ez first push due to lucio
>they take it back at 40% or so because they're just better

every time.
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>>145539229
Oh my god really!?
Creepy PermaVirgin
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>>145538307
>i don't think it's funny therefore you shouldn't either
Stage 2: Anger
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>>145539298
The rose says T <3 W.
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Another patch and Pharah is still in the game? What the fuck are Blizzard doing? This hero is fucking broken op in this shitgame wtf is she there for? Provides no help to objectives but is annoying as fuck to play against.

Fuck blizzo for making this dumb cumbish
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>>145538984
>ulted and misjudged how far it would go

This is something I never fucking understand. How does Reinhardt's ultimate work? Whenever I use it the distance seems to be completely random. Sometimes it hits people a fucking mile away and sometimes it only hits someone standing right next to me.
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>tfw you realize 90% of people in this thread are shitters
>tfw they are responsible for every lose
>tfw they blame it on somebody else
>tfw matchmaking is actually balanced
>tfw you actually listened to their advice

Only constant boys!
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>>145538801
If you use it to shield someone you and your buddy have 3 second to finish off whatever is in front of your or it's open season the second it goes down.
Seems more like a kamikaze attack to take a few with your rather than a strategy.
Reinharts shield lasts longer than 3 seconds under roadhog's ult. Even then he at least as the option to completely stop it with his tackle since hog has to be damn close to be effective.

I'm sure there's some niche things you can pull of once every 100 matches but it has no consistent, unique or powerful use.
>>145539189
Mei's ult is whatever since it's easy to avoid anyway but hanzo's could be neat. Problem is not many hanzos will use it that close to someone from what I've seen.
>>145539283
If you're boosting while using it that inevitably means you're heading towards an area with a lot of bullets flying out of it and leaving your team behind.
That makes a dead Dva.
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>>145539148
You can play Zenyatta now thanks to the Widowmaker nerf and you have to try with McCree now but he still shreds shit up if the player can actually aim.
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>>145539298
No.
It was a sfm image
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>>145539176
>if you have all 5 teammates taking damage at the same time you're fucked regardless
In lower MMR people just spray so it's easier to keep everyone topped with him. You also have a much larger heal range to stay out of trouble. I just jumped into this without reading replies so idk if this is relevant.
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>>145539350
Stage 2: Anger
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>>145538694
>she heals for far more
No she doesn't, Lucio heals more since it's 6 people and not one.
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>>145539362
Even tho it is called Earthshatter it can't go through terrain, shields, the payload, or created terrain like Mei's Ice wall
It's much more situational than I anticapted
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Do any of you guys have the Reinhardt pinning gremlin D.Va comic? or the source at least
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>>145539429
unfortunately lucio's healing is too slow to actually prevent anyone from dying
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I play on Xbox, how the fuck do I get good? I'm extremely inconsistent.

Also where is the patch note
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>>145539454
they changed the payload in beta, earthshatter can go through it now.
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>>145539414
Sorry then mate. I don't have any more sad tracers.
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>>145537597
no
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>>145539201
Maybe your shit. That's why you're afraid to play.
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>>145539365
It's incredibly clear that /owg/ is just a bunch of League rejects who don't understand Overwatch. They're not even "good" or "bad" at it, like they don't understand the fundamentals of the game.

>talking about hero powers
>immediately starts talking about 1v1 damage

Thanks /owg/ you mongos
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>>145539497
It's almost a completely different game environment than in PC. Torb is actually useful in console
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>Torbjorn: Any chance I can peek under your mech?
>D.Va: Hands off!
>Torbjorn: Hehe, there's something on your dress.
>Symmetra: No, there isn't.
>Torbjorn to Mei: something something play with your little robot
>Torbjorn: (Spawning on Numbani) no No NO N. O.
Absolute based, love this racist angry dwarf
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>>145539556
Isn't league a 5v5 game?
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>>145539532
that's a nice picture
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>patch live in EU
>Join games
>Widows crying everywhere
>inspect
>21hrs Widow, 18hrs Mcree, everthing else < 2

BEST UPDATE EVER
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>>145539541
why is tracer making out with shredder?
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>>145539365
Welcome to lolbabs. This thread is becoming lolgen 2.0 with less waifuposting
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>>145539567
>torb
>not useful on PC
look at this faggot who can't aim his gun and hit molten core for free kills
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>>145538607
I hate Koth so much that I hit leave game the second I hear Illions, Nepal or Lijang.
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THE
WOLF
HUNTS
FOR
ITS
PREY
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>>145539429

Koth is the only mode where you'll see all 5 members taking piddly damage at the same time, the other modes are far more direct and you need the power of Mercy to keep people up, her heal is 50 hp a second.

Lucio has zero sustain and is all about timed pushes and steamroll ulted teamfights, he is great on koth, useless as a solo defensive support, and only useful in specific offensive lineups.
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>>145539594
Thank you
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>>145536996
98 brothers
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>>145539591
>implying they still don't talk about 1v1 damage
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>>145539148
She lost 30 damage so she still two-shots 200hp heroes which include: Genji, Hanzo, Junkrat, Lucio, McCree, Mercy, Pharah, 76, Symettra, Torbjorn, and herself. It only "helped" Tracer/Zen in that it takes 2 shots and Mei/Reaper who need 3 shots (if they're at full health). Mei/Reaper can escape anyways though so helping them didn't really matter in the first place. Winston still has too fat of a head to not get headshotted easily so she is still evenly matched with him. The nerf effectively only helped Zen and Tracer. But she'll still just follow up with an level 1 charge shot and finish them off. Nothing has changed.
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>>145539578
>Torbjorn: (Spawning on Numbani) no No NO N. O.


What did he mean by this?
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>tfw 72 wins 389 losses
When does forced 50 kick in
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>>145539680
Numbani is all about omnics and humans living in harmony.

Torbjorn does not like omnics.
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>>145539645
that one's also ok
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>>145539628
AWOOOOOOO
really ought to change the file name
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>>145539494
Lucio's heal pre amped is 25 per 2 seconds.
Mercy's heal is a flat 50 per second.
Amped up heal is 120 heal over 3 seconds, 10 less than mercy but can be applied over all targets including himself.
This is also while Lucio is much more self sufficient, and can contest points alone while in overtime due to his short height and speed.
I've saved plenty of teammates with Lucio's healing, which is why you see double Lucio in comp play quite a bit, due to his versatility and tenacity in the face of dangerous situations.
This is all while Lucio can peel off dangeorus melee assailants like an ulting genji or reinhardt with his right click.
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>>145539578
>Torbjorn: (Spawning on Numbani) no No NO N. O.
Why does he say this?
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>>145539693
>this is the person who gets put on the team of people who start to go above 50%
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>>145539578
me too. He's the fucking best. Swedish Chef spray and "Heheh Working as intended!" voice line are what I roll with when playing him.
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>>145539556
>Being a shitter

1v1 damage is the best way to measure the strengths and weaknesses of a hero. If a hero can't sustain themselves in a 1v1 fight then how the fuck is it fair to have them on a team if the game becomes 6v5?
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>>145539567
Yeah the two torb shit I get sometimes is fucking annoying.

I usually play Zenyatta, Mercy, Pharah, Roadhog, and I'm trying to pick up Widow/Genji.

I can't snipe for shit,
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>>145539494
In concentrated fire
Distance fights where people and tactiglob and pull back will easily top off. Healing boost tips it over to effective damage soak.
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>>145539680
Torbjorn wants to remove omnic
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>>145538189
need source
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>>145539578
Does he actually say this? I've never heard it
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>>145539624
I'd rather use bastion, he deals more damage all the time
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>>145539532
Me neither
Unless someone finally posts the crying one
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>>145539693
I still want to know if MMR is only affected by being in a game that finishes.
>leave every game you're about to win
>100% lose rate
>shitter MMR
>become god in all of your games
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>>145539724
RIP GunZ pre-ijji was best
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>>145539578
>I think I've made improvements...to your face
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>>145539578
Shit, I didn't even know Torb had a quote for Numbani like that because I almost always roll Symmetra on Numbani Defense.
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>>145539841
Good luck hope someone posts it soon!
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>Game is set after the atrocities of the omnic crisis
>Only two heroes are omnics
>They're both goody two shoes

When are we getting an Omnic hero that is loyal to Anubis or Talon?
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anyone else lagging like shit tonight?
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>>145539875
GunZ : The Duel? Holy shit, haven't heard that name in a while.
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tfw you realize the community doesn't want supports to do anything but be healsluts

Why does everyone want support to be the least diverse and most boring role in the game?
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>spectate friend's game
>a rando on their team picks genji
>does fucking terrible
>i laugh at him in team chat for it
>he says 'fuck you i killed their bastion 3 times'
>laugh about three times when my friends have like 30-40 elims overall
>we all play genji next game when i get in, that guy goes reinhardt
>he chimps out and asks why we're all genji
>just tell him that my soul seeks balance
>they switch off but i stay genji
>the reinhardt ults and catches four people, i unsheath my katana
>let reinhardt know it's nothing personnel
>kill three people, enemy zarya goes for my toblesteins
>dash through the black hole and kill the zarya
>POTG
>guy bitches about how it took no skill
>tell him that he's only human

Fucking love it when shit like this happens.
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>>145539756
Wait so is forced 50 real or not

Because it's supposedly so intricate and perfect that if you step up to 52% the ENTIRE BLIZZARD COMPANY comes down to drag you to 50%

But someone can get to 20% winrate without forced 50% kicking in? Anon are you sure you're not just full of shit?
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Lets see em
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>>145539693
You're 5 standard deviations too far from the average. Please enjoy your role as permanent dead-weight for Blizzard's forced 50 rotations on the majority of the playerbase. Your payment is being able to play. Enjoy.
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>>145535317
>83 on main menu
>75 in game
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>>145539931
yup the genji pic is the old background
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>>145539541
Haha hey look at this guy, he ain't got no lips! Looks like goddamn Darkman.
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>>145539693
I know how you feel bro.

Currently at 64 wins, 298 losses.
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>>145539379
>have 3 second to finish off whatever is in front of you


the ults I just mentioned have a pretty high mortality rate, 3 seconds is a long time

bastion? he's very dangerous given 3 seconds of uninterrupted damage

and in every offensive situation mentioned, it can be used defensively to mitigate all damage they would deal to anyone, not just people standing behind the tank
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>>145539693
>>tfw 72 wins 389 losses

please tell me you are making this up
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>>145539765
So zenyatta best support?
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>>145539578
Don't get caught with your beard in the letterbox
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>>145539959
>>
>that guy who spent 5 hours rigging games to get a 27:1 k/d just to be the top rated of a subsection on a leaderboard
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>>145539578
>[kills rein]
>SEE?! Size doesn't matter!
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>>145539934
Because if the skill ceiling is above being a vegetable they won't be sought-after/complimented/invited since they're shit in comparison to someone who can do other things besides stare at bars all day.
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Why are my sprays not showing up in POTGs? They show up as the base Overwatch logo.
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>>145539959
mobility > all

Every one of my top 8 has a bonkers mobility move because GOTTA GO FAST

You could play heroes that don't fly through the air all the time but I'm not sure why you would.
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>>145539628

WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS
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>>145540121

It's a bug
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>>145539724

People don't use double Lucio outside of koth.

I know you love Lucio but you need to understand he doesn't fit every situation, you need to learn to play Mercy so you aren't being a burden on your team.
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>>145540061
>Dva
>more than 1 minute played
get help
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Does anyone feel like McCree is intended to be a 'skill character' yet he takes no skill to play
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>>145539628
THE WOLF HUNTS FOR HIS PRAY OF THE GAYM
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>>145539340
Moral of the story: Don't go swimming topless even if you're camping
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Are Mercy and 76 actually a canon couple, or is it just a popular meme?
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>>145540121
Part of the recent patch. People were complaining too much about toxic players and taunting. Enjoy your forced 50 and "ggez"s though.
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>>145540206
there is no way this is correct

gonna need a source
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>>145540197
They don't even have interaction past 'thanks doc'.
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>>145540206
Why must you lie to the man.
It wasn't in the new patch, but it might be an actual thing.
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>>145540061
>all respectable non-cancers
wew
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>>145540197
Neither, it's a bad unpopular forced meme.
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>>145540175
Maybe if his right click didnt exist
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Can someone teach me to Tracer?
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>>145539985
>70C in menu
>54C in game
Tbh, what the fuck
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>Widow and Cree are nerfed
>Feel my desire to play again grow
>Frame rate got fucked

Nice job, Blizzfuck.
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>>145540197
meme, 76 is too busy growling and playing reverse piñata with taco gangs' heads to be anywhere near a relationship
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>>145540235
>scout says "Thanks doc" to medic in TF2
>infinite yaoi porn happens
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Oooookay.

Game is dogshit without more than one other person to play with.

Too many people playing one thing and sticking to it, refusing to switch up despite them not being able to do absolutely anything with who they currently have picked. Even in TF2, people understood that shit.

This is absolutely fucking retarded. Maybe I'll play again in like 4 months when, hopefully, the general populace has gotten the basic concept of the game down.
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>>145540279
Is that the issue? I thought I was lagging, my fucking game runs like shit now.
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>>145540276
>>145539985
games aren't usually optimized for menu performance
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>Enemy team tries to go all Zenyatta.
>Counter it.
>Enemy team switches to all Pharah.
>Counter it.
>Win match.
>"Why do you guys hate fun? wtf?"
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>>145540079
>What a riveting experience
WHO CAN STOP THE MOLTEN MANLET OF POINT DEFENSE?
>>145540157
>over 100% pickrate in competitive
>57.3% winrate compared to Mercy's 47% on pc
Pretty sure Lucio is a much more versatile pick than Mercy.
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>>145540306
There's only 9 classes, there's gonna be some dickings all around. Plus they're all guys.

Not to mention Medic has performed very intrusive surgery upon all the mercs.
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Who /hindu goddess/ here?
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>>145540271
Don't be a fag, play Zarya
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>>145540336
lucio has been getting less picks lately although hes still incredibly good
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>>145540307
tell me how to play pharah
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>just got called a tryhard for the first time
>"boring ez pick"

Nigga I picked Lucio and had speed boost on 95% of the time, my entire goal was running through the Reinhardt shield and punching him in the back of the head and bumping him towards the team

How the fuck is that "tryhard"
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>>145539968
How is that even possible? You should be playing against teams with shit lag ran by 7 year olds
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>>145540358
i had that one for a while but i don't really like it, the chocolate is too good
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>>145539904
I swear I saw it a thousand times here and then it suddenly disappeared.
And now no one has it anymore apperantly
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why are these fucking idiots still playing widow? blizzard nerfed her to get her out of the meta so stop fucking picking here you idiots
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>>145540121
it's a bug, don't listen to >>145540206 because he's obviously retarded enough to believe in forced 50
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>>145540365

The people I play with play support and Rein, so I should play something that can do some semi-carrying.
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>>145540358
>>145540423
POO
IN
THE
LOO
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>>145537794
or maybe you should stop vsing shitters
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>>145539959
The tracer is entirely my friend, below here is symmetra with about the same time.

I wish it kept track of stats (or at least play time) for brawl, I've played a lot there.
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>>145540426
>300 damage headshots
>>
I haven't played a single game on defense since three days ago
My enjoyment of the game has skyrocketed
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how do i play zenyatta
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>>145540426
>an SSS tier character is only S tier now

Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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>>145540426
>falling for the widowmaker is shit meme

lol
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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>>145540336

That's because in competitive each team uses 1 lucio and 1 mercy in non koth maps, the pick rate counts both teams so if each team has 1 that's a 200% pick rate. As already explained Lucio is mandatory on koth, Mercy is all but mandatory on defense, and on offense it's a 70-30 split in favor of Mercy. Unfortunately Lucio just doesn't have the healing output to keep single targets alive through concentrated fire and he doesn't have the counterplay that Mercy provides with her ultimate.
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>>145540409
You're only allowed to play hammer only torbjorn anon it's the rules

Any other character and you're a filthy nerd with no life fucking tryhard
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>>145540459
Hi /b/!
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>>145540426
I thought they nerfed her to lower her impact for mid-low MMR.
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>>145540358
DESIGNATED
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>>145540358
Boxes need to stop fucking giving me so much Symmetra shit. I like playing her but calm the fuck down and give me purples and golds for people I don't have good shit for, jesus.
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>Two /owg/ players of equal skill meet on opposite teams
>one wins and thanks his skill and team
>other posts another reaction face and forced 50/50 meme
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>>145540358
>>145540423
How the fuck do I play her? When do I pick her and when shouldn't I pick her?

in b4 don't pick her at all
in b4 poo in loo
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>>145540307
>Even in TF2, people understood that shit.
What TF2 were you playing? Got some rose colored glasses up your ass. Honestly I found pubbers work better if you're one of the people willing to adjust or play well enough to make the enemy change.
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Fellow McSkills: do you feel like he's that much worse? I'd say he's like 15-20% less effective but maybe I'm just having an off day

Pic related
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What is so bad about Hanzo?
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>>145539959
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>well this is awkward
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>>145540197
Popular ship because they were former comrades (76 had to have married or fwb someone within the organization, not Mercy. But someone. Think about it, he was a charismatic head honcho too), he's "damaged", she's a healer, and they work well together in gameplay.

Keep in mind, she wasn't a founding member of Overwatch as she's not that much older than Pharah. People seem to think she was one and her hand in making Reaper also gives the impression that she was there for all the drama. From that angle it makes more sense for the drama, but she was really young at the time and probably wasn't in the spotlight outside of cleaning up other's mistakes.
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>>145540459
very original, very unexpected response
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>>145540561
Defense where you have a non-retarded team

King's row can be pretty good if they don't immediately break through the gate.
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>>145539959
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>>145540387
Learn to aim. Seriously learn to aim if you can't aim there's no point playing Pharah.

You'd think flying into the air ahead of the team is a good idea. No, that just means you're the only person the entire enemy team can see.

Don't even bother flying in the open if there's a Widow on the enemy team.

Speaking of flying, you can boost yourself with E. Both on ground and in the air, very useful for rapid evasive maneuvers. And don't just spam it into the middle of a enemy group that doesn't do jack shit. You can use it to push people off ledges or for example fire it behind a Reinhardt and force him forward, but most of the time it's best reserved for actually boosting yourself.

Save your skills for when you actually need them, they have really long cooldowns.

Only use your ult when the enemy team is distracted, or otherwise immobilized and grouped up (Zarya ult, Mei ult, Rein ult). Or just use it to overkill one or two people if you want to ensure they're dead. If you see more than two people and they see you, don't even dream about using your ult.
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>>145536597
You mean the way youre suppose to play roadhoh?

shitter
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>>145540426
>stop picking her
>still mad over Blueberry even after nerf
>whycan'tiholdalltheseHONs.jpg
How sandy is your boipussi right now?
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>>145540560
>thanks his skill and team
Stage 2: Misinformation
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>>145540197
There are no canon couples
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>>145540591

He probably only played on a couple dedicated servers like I did, so it gives the illusion of everyone being good since it's only a smaller sample size.
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>>145540495
>>145540495
stand (float) behind the rest of your team and press shift and e while throwing balls at people

If you can get a symmetra buff he suddenly becomes a real character

>>145540561

she's a winmore character, you need a team comp with a good amount of sustain already.

Then you put a couple turrets on a flank, then the rest on the objective or the nearby health pack

hold down lmb while jumping around like a cunt for big damage
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>>145540591
Thing is with TF2 there was generally more people than just a straight 6v6. You can deal with a couple of dead weights in the bigger teams.

Why is this game 6v6 only? Will that change?
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>>145540596
He's gutted and a shadow of his former self now.

>Play McCree earlier
>Bastion is camping on a ledge and shooting someone else
>Walk up behind up and fan point blank into his head
>He survives and spins around
>Dead before I can even roll or reload
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>>145540358
I like tech support better
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>>145540525
Stats don't lie but regardless sound barrier is one of the best counter engagement ults in the game.
On top of that, while Lucio is healing, he can still damage enemies, push people off cliffs and provide supressing fire for his team.
While Mercy's healing, she's doing just that, healing, and Mercy can only keep one target alive with her healing while Lucio's amped heal can keep his entire team healthy even if he's not focusing on them
also
> team uses 1 lucio and 1 mercy in non koth maps, mandatory on defense, then 70-30 split in favor of mercy
If this was true, she'd have a higher pickrate, but she does not.
More people are realizing how much lucio can bring to the table besides his ult, and how he his outperforming mercy in competitive and in normal pub play.
Lucio is a better overall pick for your team than a mercy.
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>>145540358
>when you place the teleporter just right
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>>145540560
>one wins and thanks his skill and team
>other posts reaction face and forced 50 meme
nigga you writing pottery I approve
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>>145539497
Play it on PS4 and hook up your mouse and keyboard
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post crying sfm tracer
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>>145540702
Probably not, unfortunately.

The main reason you see so much bitching about team comp is because it's 6v6 or nothing.
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>>145540596
All in your head bro. McSkill still got it. Hell his DPS against squishes is even better. Just can't rub your dick on Roadhog's face anymore
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>>145539959
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>>145540667
You're just some kind of smuggler ain't ya
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Thank you jesus for McSkill and Widow nerfs.
I just wish they nerfed widow harder
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>>145540561
Only pick her on Defense and the majority of the time you should switch out after the first point is captured (you can sometimes stick for one more checkpoint depending on the map but do NOT be a retard and use her on the last point).

Use turrets as flank detectors and to support the team's damage instead of setting up autistic 6 turret nests that get blown up by a single explosive or Winston M1.

Spam M2s whenever you're not doing anything.

Jump around in circles like a fucking autist while hooking M1 when they're close and watch as it melts people instantly at full charge.
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>>145535212
>tfw getting the RIP-tire achi with blowing up 6 people and a turret, including a Mei who just started to ult and died screaming

ENEMY TURRET JUST PLAY LOW HAHAHAHAHA
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>>145539959
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>>145540591
Yeah, see >>145540689

Because that's exactly what I did. I played on a few servers with communities to them, wherein a lot of people who were into 6v6 competitive and Highlander stuff had played. I guess maybe that right there is my problem or something. Fuck. But even then, it felt like you could actually carry a bit in TF2. There's no sense of that in OW, and I'm used to that in HotS, but the thing is it somehow feels like you REALLY cannot pull extra weight even slightly in OW.
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wtf why did they nerf quickscoping? It was a high-skill/high-reward feature.
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>>145540597
He gets a bad rap because he requires a minimal, MINIMAL amount of effort to contribute to a team. The game is designed so that any retard with a pulse can "play a role" even if they're retarded. Rein holds a shield, Lucio heals everyone by standing, Junkrat makes grenades go near the enemy. By default, everyone is a medium bot.

Hanzo is not a medium bot by default, he requires a player to actually put a crosshair on something and hit them occasionally, or else he does NOTHING. Therefore lots of people pick Hanzo and hit nothing and are worthless, and on the other hand people who aren't playing any better than the Hanzo, but have chosen heroes that play themselves at a minimal level and blame the Hanzo for not contributing.
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post yfw mccree is shit tier now
>can't kill reaper, mei, and lucio on heal with 1 fan unless you're really up close or you somehow memorize where all the bullets go and move accordingly
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>Widowmaker and McCree are nerfed
>they still are everywhere
>used to play king of the hill for the lack of Widowmakers
>every king of the hill I joined today had Widowmakers on both teams

JUST
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>>145540787
Hey baby you single?
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>>145540561
the first part of any defense map since overwatch loves making you walk a mile to get back to the front line and teleporter is a godsend on those maps. she's decent on payload i guess

otherwise avoid her
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>widowmaker and genji locked in instantly
every single game
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>>145540561
She's generally good on defense, except Route 66, I just cannot for the life of me do well as Sym there.

I used to only do death rooms (all sentrys 1 room) but a Winston, Zarya or Mei usually trash them easily. Death room can 1 shot Tracer. But now I watch flanks with 2 turrets at each point, and 1 or 2 watching the teleporter.

Right click CONSTANTLY at windows/doorways/reinhardt shields. Left click and jump around when people get close.
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>>145539959

I usually last pick and play whatever the team needs, so I am actually good at no one.
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>>145540821
>why can't I shit out 150(well 130 now) damage bodyshots even quicker than half a second because I spammed right click?
gee I don't fucking know
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>penalty for leaving brawls
FUCK OFF BLIZZARD
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>>145540821
>high-reward
I didn't play widow, what was so rewarding about it?
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>>145540307
>Being so trash at the game that you have to resort to counterpicking in order to win

Literally only shitters repick their heroes. If you git gud with a class then you shouldn't need to repick, you should be able to beat the other heroes through skill.
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>>145539959
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>>145540821
>high-skill
>when half the people just scripted it
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>>145540667
Lubed up and ready for her blue eclair desu.
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>>145540821
Yeah I don't really play widow much at all and the fact that you have to wait for it to fully unscope before scoping again looks like such a clunky change mechanics wise.
I just hopped into the training and it just feels like you're lagging.
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>>145540921
Killing 70% of the cast before they have time to react. That's a pretty good reward.
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>>145540940
T.Genji main
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>>145540940
3/10
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>>145540724
lucio's just much harder to kill than mercy when the enemy team tries to focus on the healer.
his survivability is why he can contest an objective while waiting for his teammates to get back to it, while mercy relies on hiding or dying first then getting back to it to revive the team.
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>>145540724

I guess it doesn't matter how many facts you are presented or explanations you are given, you are clearly a Lucio main who cannot understand simple game mechanics and refuses to look at the truth of the situation.

I'm sorry but Lucio is a game losing choice on defense and simply doesn't have the healing output of Mercy which can cause many offensive lineups to stall. As always he is mandatory on king of the hill but that's really the only place he shines. Comp teams always use solo Mercy or a Mercy+Lucio combo, the only time you'll find a single (or double) Lucio is on king of the hill maps. Please don't pick Lucio on defense, you are causing your team to lose.
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>>145540841
>used to play king of the hill for the lack of Widowmakers
What did he mean by this? You can pick what mode you want to play?
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>>145539959
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>>145539959
I know it's not great, haven't played much of this game
>tfw only level 34
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>>145540940
He's not saying everyone should always pick the counter

He's saying if your stupid ass hasn't even done 1k damage as Genji by 5 minutes in and you've died 12 times, you might want to try something else
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>>145540940
Eh, I'm feeling generous

(You)
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>>145540702
>Why is this game 6v6 only? Will that change?
Don't know if it will change, but Blizz chose the number so you "feel effective" and not lost in a crowd, but also enough people you can suck and your team can soldier on. Say regular MOBAs run five people and one player off their game frequently slides the whole match. Granted this game has more twitch and less momentum. Makes sense when, in a lot of data sheets, the top and bottom of the list are more memorable. So you reduce the gray area.
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>>145540992
>Facts you are presented
>Lucio has a higher pickrate, higher winrate, and can do multiple things while healing his team
I'm curious what facts you have presented, because the only ones I see are Lucio outperforming Mercy in every category.
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>>145535332
change armor to shields
decreased movement speed penalty while firing
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>>145541012
mommy
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Alright guys, lets post the real stats here. Only post your least played heroes!
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>look someone's profile
>they have 40+ hours on a single hero
>less than an hour on everyone else
>player avoided
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>play tons of Engineer in TF2 since they can be great both offensively and defensively with his kit
>his skills are spread across many heroes in Overwatch so there is no real equivalent and none of those heroes can be played on attack

The woes of an Engy main.
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>Traveling to route sixtysDefeat
Worst case still, the map didn't even finish loading
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>>145540745
>>145541036
I hope it changes. 6v6 and highlander was the competitive scene in TF2 but I always had the most fun in 24 person servers.
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>>145540992
>talking about hero tiers

"X hero is better than Y hero" is only relevant if you're playing the game at the absolute highest level. Quick, how many small health packs are on Hanamura? If you can't answer immediately, then you're not playing the game t the highest level, and your opinions on "hero tiers" are irrelevant. You can lose a game to 6 Torbjorns who never build a single turret because they outmove and outshoot you.

If you want to have your stupid hero tier opinions considered, then please post your competitive 6v6 team information.
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>>145540978
I don't get it. They just changed her re-scoping and not the initial scoping, and her headshot damage is the same? Was there some bug increasing her damage by re-scoping?
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>>145535332
Remove head hitbox from mecha. Just entirely remove it, no more headshots on mecha form. Slightly decrease the super soaker spread. That's all that needs to be done.
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>>145541069

>Lucio has a higher pickrate
He is used in king of the hill where mercy is not

>higher winrate
Mercy is used on defense and Lucio is not, seeing as the game is offensively favored it's no question that she will see more losses.

>and can do multiple things while healing his team
He can jump around while healing for tiny amounts where Mercy can keep people alive through concentrated fire. I don't know about you but having a support that can prevent deaths sure beats one that can hop around spamming boogers.
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>>145541104
I'll make a bold claim, they were all Genji spammers,
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>>145540992
>you're causing your team to lose if you pick Lucio on defense

This is the first I've responded, but this is so fucking phenomenally untrue that you're starting to sound like an upset mercy waifufag.
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>>145541145
IMO custom servers with support for more options is going to be essential to this games long term success
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>>145540821
>>145540973
Yeah, the patch was shit. Can't even teleport into the ceiling as reaper either, ruined the skillful mechanics!
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>>145535332
Let her shoot while jet boosting in meka mode
Make her fucking massive glass face plate not absolute shit that makes her a joke.
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>>145541181
>Mercy can keep people alive through concentrated fire
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>>145541181
>Mercy can keep people alive through concentrated fire
concentrated fire implies more than one person is shooting your target
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>>145541098
I don't like widow.
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>>145541164

What? Tiers?

We are referring to situations where each hero is useful and trying to explain to a single Lucio mainer that he does in fact not work in every situation and has huge drawbacks on his toolset especially when looking at the defensive side of a payload or capture point map.
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>>145541202
B-but what if they mod their own skins and don't give us shekels anymore?! REEEEEEEE

t. Blizzard
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>>145539959
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>>145541181
>having a one man babysitter is better than having a versatile support
gas all waifufags
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>wake up this morning
>mcree nerf
>widow bodyshot nerf

Playing winston just got a lot more enjoyable
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>>145541098
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>>145541165
Widows are too shit to get headshots, they exploited quick rescoping to get faster 150 damage bodyshots
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How prevalent are WMs and McSkills now that they have been nerfed?
Can I finally play a game without getting sniped from the distance or McSkilled around the corner?
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>>145541098
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>>145537672
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>press shift
>ability goes off
>ability fails
ive been outskilled
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>>145541165
Re-scoping was faster than just waiting scoped in to shoot again, like 0.3s faster. It wasn't hard to do, you just had to know about it really.
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>>145541181
>50 hp per second will keep a target alive through concentrated fire
That implies it's a 1v1 battle between the person you are healing and not a teamfight where people are also coming for your ass and trying to keep your healing beam on them usually spells death for you
>AOE heal that works on the entire team, including the healer, who can self heal and protect himself from flankers, while applying moderate damage to the enemy team.
>Mercy has a low winrate because the game is rigged towards attack
You are really grasping for straws now
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>>145535317

>amd card running a silky smooth 67C all times
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>>145541202
Yeah getting stuffed into a 6v6 every game with no choice over map, playercount etc seems like a great way to get burned out.

Not to mention when you get stuffed into games with two teammates who spend most of their time juggling their extra chromosomes
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>>145541113
dorf can be offense, and no, not the turret on cart meme, his gun is good, armor is really good since you're on offense you'll naturally pass over the enemies corpses instead of having to forage, and the turret can be placed either to watch flanks, act as a distraction for a push, prevent them from setting up again after a wipe, or if the enemy isn't paying attention and you get lucky you can just outright lock down an area for your team not even mentioning moving platforms and MOLTEN COOOORE. Mind you it's hard to do this effectively but it is possible
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>>145541207
>Being so shit at widow you have to get salty and compare actual mechanics to bugs
lmaoing@u
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>tfw i'm one of the few d2g expats here
the smell of lolbabbies is too thick here

where are my fellow shitposting kings at
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>>145541104
And somehow they have managed to still be bad at it.
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How many bball traps did you lay today?
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>>145540940
>Lucio
>60% of the time it works
>every time
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>>145541098
>>145541276
>>145541289


Does no one realize that nobody ever replies or cares about stats being posted? What's the point in doing it?
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>>145541337

>not animation cancelling your reload
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>>145540845
>she's decent on payload i guess
She's explicitly garbage on payload
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>>145541390
I have never, EVER played as ASSFAGGOTS.
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>>145541278

Mercy is more mobile, puts out more healing, and has an ultimate that counters everything in the game.

I'd rather have my entire team alive and healed than constantly be in situations where I'm relying on a Lucio to dance around the payload to stall.
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>>145541380
turret on the cart meme is a good meme
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Can't believe D.Va and Lucio are now officially a couple.
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>>145541348
Ok, it was just the 'high-skill' part of the post that was throwing me off then. I thought there was something deeper going on.
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>>145541390
LOL > DOTA 2

1 v1 me u wont
ign: teemomaster
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>>145541440
shut up no they aren't
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>>145541403
So I can call you a faggot for having 30 hours on Widow
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>>145541390
Are you fucking ok anon

This is overwatch general
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>>145541390
What does league even smell like?
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>>145541380

I really was a decent engineer on attack before the babby turret meme came out, so maybe I can try Tor on attack if people don't get too mad about the idea of that.
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>>145535317
Is it just me or this game really CPU intensive? I have a shitty CPU but a nice video card, can run a lot of other games smoothly but on Overwatch I struggle to get 30 FPS
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>>145541465
What's the problem with Lucio? Are you racist?
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bastion was just a shitter bit before i settled into playing tank/support mainly
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>>145541435
tfw you just won two games by dancing around and stalling as lucio

we
win
again
black
brothers
of
the
night
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>>145541494
Russia, normies and racing car office chairs
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>>145541494
It smells like pain and frustration.
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>>145540821
This general is full of shitters, no point discussing it.
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>>145541494
Like the salt of jealous dotards nearby mostly
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>>145535332
Remove headshot hitbox or put it on the back

Give her a mid range weapon in Mecha form

>>145541432
yes anon, you are such a special snowflake. you are very cool and edgy, always going against the grain
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>>145541390
ex-/ink/ and /r6g/ here, why are there so many assfaggots in a shootan thread?
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New brawl of the week is pretty fun
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FIVE HUNDRED
AND FORTY SIX
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>>145535390
Hitting the back does extra damage?
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>>145539229
link where
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>>145541390
dota 2 veteran here im basically clan iraq

>lolbabby stench
well this is a kids game
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>>145541435
>Mercy is more mobile than speed manlet
yes just keep flying right next to your teammates
there will be no repercussions for that
Junkrat also says hi
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>>145541280
>Get close
>Flash
>Fan
>Roll around the corner for cooldown and health
>repeat

That or snipe him from across the map.
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>>145541531
Koreans hate black people.
Lucio is Brazilian.
Koreans probably hate Brazilians too.
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>>145541553
>LoL
>Russia
Russians play Dota 2 my man because they can't make money out of LoL.
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>that feel when Bastion is actually really awful

What can Blizzard do to make him competitive and not just either completely awful or a pubstomper?
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>>145541615
Melee him back, not in the back.
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>>145541638
Oh right there's another one, honest mistake
>>
When are they making Mercy's E "Guardian Angel to beamed target". Is she the only character without an E
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>>145541593
Actually, it's because I don't want to be bullied for being bad.
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>>145541649
Bastion is very good if he's got a team supporting him.

He's vulnerable otherwise.
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>>145541494
>that comic
That's a death sentence or boost away situation for Winston.
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>Mercy revives you
>your entire team is still running back from spawn
>the entire enemy team stands and stares at you as you res in the middle of them
>Mercy runs away
Is there a more "fuck you" thing to do to someone than this?
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>>145541662
Ah, my bad.
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>>145540794
A did the same too (because who would chew the ice that is years of pubs) and still knew somewhere out there was a good TF2 soldier on a team of spies and snipers. But OW has more of a push for "easy cheese." if you're the right character with the right behavior you CAN swing the whole match. But the same behavior won't always treat you well. Just like TF2. Say a Reaper round spent flanking with no real results and no one wasting their time on you: vs two enemy damage dealers chasing you around and losing time and time again.

Or a round front and center countering enemy tanks when they overinvested, by the time the change kits it's been too long. Or you get your ass kicked by their damage since you're rarely getting in close for tank shredding.

All characters have some cheese to shut down others. Some people just get good of making sure they're the only ones grating their team.
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>It's an "everyone on your team is someone you marked as avoid" episode
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>>145541598
A bunch of shitty league players somehow got the idea in their head that Blizzard is a better company than Riot

Both are shit
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>>145541649
Giving him an extra 100 armor would save the character.
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>>145541609
fucking ouch
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>>145541649
he's already fine. people just don't know how to play him yet. I've been coming up with fun strategies with friends to piss people off, they work pretty well
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>>145541359

>That implies it's a 1v1 battle between the person you are healing and not a teamfight where people are also coming for your ass and trying to keep your healing beam on them usually spells death for you
The person you are healing is firing back at the people shooting at them, that's a real fun mechanic in the game in that both teams can fire weapons at the other. At 50hp a second you can very easily make sure your DPS player wins every single 1v1 and can fend off even 2v1 situations with ease. If they die then you can very easily revive them and let them finish off the kill turning a 5v5 situation into a very simple 4v6.

>AOE heal that works on the entire team, including the healer, who can self heal and protect himself from flankers, while applying moderate damage to the enemy team.
Yep, wonderful in koth where small/moderate damage is being spread out across the entire team.

>Mercy has a low winrate because the game is rigged towards attack
>You are really grasping for straws now
You play Overwatch right? You've seen how the game is designed in favor of the attackers, no? You've seen that comp tournaments use unofficial stopwatch rules right? That's because the offensive side pretty much always wins and they needed a way to determine a winner.
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>>145541435
>Mercy is more mobile
Stopped reading there.

Mercy's mobility is entirely reliant on teammates and unless her team is doing this, she hasn't got shit on Lucio.
https://youtu.be/qytdp4obq9g

Not to mention the ult is a literal "whoops my team is low MMR shitters"
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>>145541649
Because his kit can either be awful or pubstomp.
It's like reverse Widow.
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>>145541494
salty milk and coins
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>>145541337
How many full Reaper shots does it take to kill a fatpig? I thought it was something like 4.
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>>145541730
>actually being butthurt enough to use the 'avoid' feature
How much of a sensitive faggot are you?
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>>145541649
Give him the shield back or change some of his hp to armor, make his Gatling gun have a wind up time or overheat
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>>145541630
That or get a rein with you.

Good luck seeing me behind my big german sugardaddy, enjoy your flashbangs and hammer to the face.
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>>145541730
Avoid doesn't do anything, blizzard just passes the information on to scientists studying autism
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>>145541685
If you press shift you automatically fly to your beamed target. You don't even have to be looking at them.

Play the game before whining about nothing you idiot.
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>>145541312
Shitters who abused the characters cry while the decent players weren't affected.
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>>145541685
Her GA already goes to the target she's beamed to.
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>>145541730
How much of a babby do you have to be to use the avoid feature? Everyone has a bad game once in a while.
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>>145541609
>tfw /btbg/ is already a rotting carcass
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>>145541705
the red and angry eyebrows imply he's ulting
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>>145541831
>still having that option on
It's so much better playing with it off, but I want both options.
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>>145541805
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>>145541609
>>>/v/
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>>145541774
Winrates and pickrates don't lie.
Just going to drop that here.
Can't beat the numbers kid.
Now excuse me I have some PSO2 to play
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Better get your Pharah wins now, you stupid fucking cumbitches, cause she's gone next patch, you fucking idiots. Get your wins you trashcan fuckholes.
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>>145541831
And you can turn that off in controls, I want to Guardian to my target I'm aiming at not my beam. They should remove that in controls and just make her E Guardian to beamed target. Faggot.
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>double tap a mccree as pharah
>second rocket doesnt do damage
>he ends up fth spamming me to death
What
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>>145541839

>>145541879
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I don't think Torb is that strong, but I'm afraid pubbies are too stupid to deal with him most of the time and he may get nerfed. Tell me I'm wrong.
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>>145541859
So they get bounced around a bit, while both Soldier and Streetpig can just break him.
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>>145541782

Is that what low MMR games are like? Wall riding in plain sight of a Widow and not getting hit a single time, people standing next to cliffs while a Lucio is next to them.

Boy I wish I could reset my MMR.
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>>145541913
lol
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>>145541805
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>>145541859
That's a death sentence or boost away situation for Winston.
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>>145541843
>literally never stops shittalking like a 12 year old on both occasions I've run into them
>48 hours reaper, 48 hours genji, 4 hours mcree, <1 hour everyone else
>26 hours widow, 5 minutes mcree
some people I've avoided off the top of my head, I'd say a solid DAY of nonstop blueberry or reaper with less than an hour of anyone else isn't "once in a while"
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>>145541962

He is painfully mediocre outside of Molten Core.
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>>145541962
You are wrong because the game is balanced around competitive.
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>>145541796
t. someone from his avoid list
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>>145541796
>>145541843
I always avoid Widow mains, they just make the games more boring, whether they're actually good or not.
Oh, and they have mains, which make them fucking cancer to play with.
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>>145541879
>>145541925
Try letting go of your mouse buttons then hitting shift you mouthbreathers
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>>145541936
He killed you before you shot the 2nd rocket, enjoy.
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>>145541796
I avoid all snipers.
When I get matched with them anyway they still only play sniper.

>>145542023
but I have it so where you don't have to hold the mouse button
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>>145542021
I always avoid Genji and Widow players if it's their main.
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>>145542019
yeah, I probably hurt his feelings and he had to avoid me because he'd get triggered otherwise

thanks for proving my point.
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>>145542023
You can't do that if you're riding the edge of channeling range. It wont stay on your target and/or you lose healing or damage.
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>>145541974
>strawmanning
Sill waiting for anything that shows half the mobility of that video for mercy.

Protip: you can't
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>>145541879
You have both options.
The solution is literally to get good.
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>>145541843
>dude picks genji
>spends the entire game hugging the payload
>never harasses their widow or back-line
>shit talks the rest of team, whines for heals and tanks

if you don4t use avoid feature on people like this you're zenyatta levels of zen
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>>145541970
>>145541994
>pathpork's hook on cd
>1000 hp monkey
>smack away big boys and give mercy a dicking
It's not exactly a good thing for them
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>>145541962
his rivet gun is good, but his hitbox is a huge weakness.
also huge ass head.
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>>145542013
So, your'e telling me they won't pull some League of Legends nonsense and hurt a character because casuals can't handle them even though they're rarely seen in tournament play?
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>>145541936
he shot down the rocket
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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>>145542152
How many LMB meatshots does Streetpig have to land to wreck the big red ape?
Not even counting Soldier's damage now.
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>>145542160
league doesn't do this, though. They've even stated that they exclusively balance for high elo.
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Since the McCree adjustments, I haven't seen a single McCree
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Mercy can get to any spot Lucio can, she can get to any single spot on the map because she can boost to fellow teammates.
If in trouble she can simply turn around and boost 20 yards out of danger to escape things like a Zarya or Mei ult.

Pretty easy to see which hero is more mobile when one can literally go anywhere that the other can.
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It can't be my imagination that after this patch I've been getting worse teammates than I ever did. 5 niggers couldn't kill one fucking ulting Genji while being unkillable with my transcendence.
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>>145542223
When you do, though, you feel that double tap headshot damage.
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this weeks brawl is awful
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>>145542223
They added skill to him so now they left.

Please lord dont let them move to my nigga junkrat
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>>145542223
Post more smug Mercy
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>>145539153
>games been out less than a month
>bored of it already
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>>145541996
>i am triggered by the heros people pick
>how dare they try to win by picking strong heroes that play to their strengths as a player? If I see this person in one of my games I will get visibly angry!
you sound like a massive faggot
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>>145542223

he's still breddy stronk. Like if he had released like this I might've still thought he was a bit OP.

Nigga's that can actually aim are just fucking terrifying.
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>>145542282
>She can get to any spot on the map because she can boost to teammates
reminder tracer is the best flanker because mei can just create a wall so she can get to higher places
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>>145542302
What, you don't like the "Who has Helix Rocket off cd" Brawl?
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>>145542215
Yeah man, solo q is doing great and Karthus sure was a problem in high elo. Fuck you
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>>145542282
She has no mobility on her own. She is literally incapable of Lucio's mobility because she can dart once, to a teammate that she's relied on to get there.
And then that dart is on a cooldown.
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>>145542328
t. widow """main"""
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we need a polish hero so we can make polandball jokes at their expense
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>>145542223
I have

Less common but when you run into him as a character with 250 or less HP you really feel that damage still, then remember he's supposed to be a 'kill lower HP characters' character
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>>145535882

sleep tight reaper
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>>145542215
lul
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Soldier 76 is definitely best offense hero post patch

debate me
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>>145542140
You literally can't. You lose out a little on either option you pick. When you prefer your beam target you can't fly to a teammate and keep healing your initial target through LoS. If you pick not prefering your target, you can't fly when they're already out of LoS.
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>>145542394
Nope. I have 7 minutes total on widow.
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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>>145542053
I could see the rocket hit him on his killcam

>>145542169
Can McCrees really fth spam Pharah rockets to make them ineffective?
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>>145542491
Kill cam is not accurate. Your rocket ceased to exist when it exploded on his face, because he killed you before it was even fired on his side.
Happens all the time.
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>>145542367
>muh solo queue
how to spot a silver shitter 101

you're not at the level where dynamic queue is gamebreaking, so why complain about it?
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>>145542491
no I was memeing you
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>get shoved into a losing team on Watchpoint: Gibraltar
>enemy team consist of double Genji, Hanzo and Mercy
>realize we have no tank
>ask team what's up
>"It wouldn't matter"
>fuck this, time for Winston
>do my thing and start pushing the enemy back
>teammate sees what's up and also goes Winston
>we tear their shit wide open
>they eventually change their team comp, but they can't handle the dong
>Victory
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>When Reaper is probably your best hero because of days of maining spy and he's basically a free win against typical KotH pub cheese, but you hate the character

I just want to play fun heroes like Genji instead of being forced to stack up triple kills on the enemy team with this boring faggot
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>>145539959
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>>145542548
>You're not at the level where you can complain about it
do I need to hit master?
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>>145542152
>mercy flies out of his range to one of the people he smacked away
gg
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>>145542206
soldier would be an issue, but hogfat would get one meatshot off before he got bitch slapped away, and his hook is on cd so he'd have to waddle back into range, on top of monkey trouble's 2 sec jump
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>>145542473
It's really nowhere near as bad as you make it sound.
If you manage your kit and the healthbars properly it works just fine with having the beam-target preference on.
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>>145542378
>And then that dart is on a cooldown.
No. Mercy dash is 2-3 second cooldown. It may as well not exist.
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>>145542609
yes. diamond 1 is shit
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>>145542308
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>>145539693
Prove it
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>people watch epic twitch streamers play genji
>think they can do the same ninja shit
>end up being useless all game and never switching

every
single
game
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>>145542609
Overwatch has nothing to do with MOBAs so why not talk about it in a relevant general?
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>>145542667
It is a cooldown, where Lucio has none. And again, it's completely reliant on one teammate.
Are you purposely being obstinate at this point or do you just not understand that mercy is nowhere near as mobile?
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>>145542609
Get out of here kangz, you'll always be bad
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>>145535068
>>145535068
MIGRATE
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>>145542609
>those champions

kys my man
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I WANT LOLBABBIES AND DOTARDS TO LEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAVEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145542743
I'm the best.
When ranked comes out I'll be the best Lucio and Reinhardt player the world has ever seen
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>>145542459
I can't pick anyone else besides him for offense. Can't disagree. Either snipe blow niggas up upfront or sprint past their defenses and snipe their backline.
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>>145542609
>Riding the tank Ecco/Squidkid freelo train.
>Implying skill.
Let me guess, you got legend with Facehunter too?

Neck yourself, dropkick.
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>>145540467
Michael Reins from above.
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>>145542663
It's not that bad, but what's the point in limiting options behind a menu instead of through the game's controls.
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>>145542609
>gets to diamond by playing Ekko and Fizz
>cries about the possibility of Blizzard nerfing his OP crutch heroes because people complain about how broken they are
it's like pottery
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>>145542223
Most of the McCrees I've seen have shit aim and need the stun to kill me; even when they land the stun though plenty of them don't kill due to poor aim.
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>>145542459
Pharah is better if they have Bastion/Torb/Mei but Soldier counters her, so yeah, you're partially right.
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>>145540652
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>>145541637
In one of her voice lines at the start of a match, d.va says that she loves Lucio's music, after lucio asked for her autograph and vise versa.
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>>145542459
The best offense hero is junkrat
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>>145541098
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>>145542459
Soldier/Tracer
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>>145543023
hahahahahahahahahaha waifufags confirmed for getting cucked with a black BR
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>>145540447
Play Zarya right and you can drag pubs kicking and screaming to victory.
>Got an idiot that likes to run face first into the enemy shield
>They spraying at an opening walk in shield
>Some chuckle fuck trying to get frisky with your mercy shield
>Reinhardt's shield is down cause they are focusing him shield
>Mei cunt trying to freeze you shield
>Winston trying to tickle your team shield
Then turn all that shielding into a fucking Bork laser and melt everything in your path. Hit alt fire to lob energy grenades into people's faces or to keep there heads down. Go for their Ovaltine then melt them with your team, or have a teammate use their ult as well. Hell with her personal shield you can eat ults for energy, each shield lasts for two seconds or 200 points of damage. Learn how to play her right and she becomes a god damn engine of destruction on attack, defense fuck even king of the hill.
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>>145541098
It hasn't changed in forever
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>>145541618
Here you go
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>>145542308
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https://youtu.be/I4wmNXQv9LQ
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>>145543147
I think it's a shitty ship and I hate d.va

I was just saying that she obviously doesn't fucking hate him for being black. I don't know if that guy was lying about lucio/d.va being canon, but I don't care either way because d.va is an annoying cunt
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>>145537718
what is this?
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>>145542663
>It's really nowhere near as bad
It is pretty bad.

>Healing someone at the frontline
>Feel like it's getting to hot, better to save my precious ass
>Line up at someone in the back
>Glide
>Nope, it takes me back
>Fly straight into Junkrat's grenade midair
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>>145543792
The most likely drop from a loot box.

>>145535068

>>145535068

>>145535068
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>>145535635
Dota 2 uses counterpick balancing. You're probably a LoL baby and need mommy and daddy dev to hold your hand so you can play your favorite hero without ever worrying about being hard countered.
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Rare pic of McCree's revolver in the next batch of new skin releases
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>>145535882
sleep tight reaper
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