Fighting Games General /fgg/

st is the best

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Thoughs? This is a list based on skill in fightcade games only

>>145496480
>>145496480
>>145496480
Fucking based

i'm going to do it......

mika is ugly

>>145496850
anon no!!

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>>145496854
haruhi sucks lmaoooo

>>145496910
i spent the last 10 years trying to find something that made me feel good and wanted by others and i failed

>>145497010
have you tried juggling

>>145497010
it'll happen in the next ten years!

Fucking Tekkenfags

Draw more fanart of Leo. Asuka has enough.

Reminder that sfv is shit and you should all feel ashamed for giving money to it and still shilling it.

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>>145497194
Most of it sucks

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Will Kazumi meet Jin in T7? Am I the only one curious about that?

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>>145497194
No she doesn't

>>145497401
She can meet my dick with her mouth

>>145497331
As somebody that has jerked it to Asuka plenty of times, you're a liar.

>>145497194
Just pretend that Rock Howard is covered in belts

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>>145497331
thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis

>>145497456
You're wrong. There is only one artist that draws decent porn for Asuka and like 5 other pics from other artists that are good

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>>145497476
It's not the same.

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>>145497194
i wish i could be leo's wife

i tried tekken 6 but its too difficult for me

>>145497428
>deviantart

>>145497721
3rd best tekken.

>>145497689
Yeah but he's drawn like 300 pictures.

There's about 4, give or take, good Leo pictures and I posted one of them.

When playing with a pad is it better to move your thumb to each direction or place it at the center and roll it wherever it needs to go?

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>>145497721
>being so gay and so in denial that you have to tell yourself it's a girl to justify liking a boy

>>145497860
excuse me?

>>145497918
The same artist that drew >>145497721 or >>145497735 ??? Maybe i'm thinking of a different artist.

>>145497921
Keep the thumb at the edge of directions, never at the center

>>145498070
I'm saying DA is garbage

>>145498093
But by doing that you increase the total amount of movement you need to make with each change.

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>>145498143
I've never been there

>>145498070
The Asuka guy? I dunno who it is but most of it is just those numerous CG sets.

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>mfw hang out in the discord and fgg all day but suck at all the games

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To the one asking ram questions last thread not sure if you're still here but either way this is what the corner crossup looks like (I left the full combo at the end there in case you don't know the optimal both swords in corner one).

The non-crossup version works by just delaying the jump a bit (completely impossible to differentiate as the blocker basically if you do it right), then after the 2KP you can do 5S J8D (not sure if you can get anything better but that's what I do) instead of the run under KP, everything else is the same.

Also the beginning to this combo is possible from almost anything, doesn't necessarily have to be a corner KKK setup, it can be a corner carry PK PK KP PPP and it still works the same.

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>go to round 1 with two friends around 11pm
>play tekken usually; didn't know you can play the person in attached machine directly front of you
>androgynous-race looking girl stops by to see
>literally cannot tell if she's white, asian, or hispanic -- or mix of the three
>"heh gamer girl is checking out video games"
>she goes away
>"NEW CHALLENGER"
>surprised because i thought machines were single-player only
>choose lili, opponent chooses xiaoyu
>opponent pretty good
>both win one round
>round 3
>start messing around
>twirling and flipping back and forth with lili
>xiaoyu stands there, then starts throwing stance after stance, swinging and flailing her arms
>get close to each other, neither attack
>for about a good minute or so, it looked as if lili and xiaoyu were dancing with each other
>start "dancing" close
>throw some attacks here and there
>every single attack was a very narrow miss and dodge, which looked like staged dance
>surprised and dumbfounded, "holy shit, it's as if we're dancing!"
>lili and xiaoyu flutter gracefully
>friend, drunk: "HOLY SHIT YOU'RE PLAYING WITH A GIRL. IT'S THE PLAYER IN FRONT OF YOU" really loud
>get off seat and see player
>it's her; she doesn't take eyes off screen
>beat her with very little HP
>go up to her to shake hand
>she's gone
>look around
>she's sitting with her fat nerdy boyfriend playing SF
>just leave
>KEKED
the girl was pretty, but the real highlight was all the dancing lili and xiaoyu did. i don't even know what i did for me to "purposely" miss and dodge all those attacks. maybe it was all her.
i'm still amazed and wish i had recorded it somehow, but the fleeting moment is perfect for this scenario. haven't been there sincewill i ever see her again, /vg/?

>>145498250
Those 0,05 cms are not gonna make a difference. You want to already be hovering the direction you may be hitting soon anyway.

You guys don't understand. Tekken is a kusoge of the worst kind and all of you will drop it in less than a week.

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>>145498350
I know who you're talking about but I was talking about an actual artist. The girl who did pic related, i'll try and find his pixiv.

>>145498456
is this you marcus or allblue

>>145497953
so if hes gay for liking leo does that make you a pedophile

>>145498495
too long

autism post of the day

>>145498559
Its fun to play with casual friends though. They won't touch SF/Anime games.

anyone wanna play revelator
US WC

>>145498407
Luong is the only good looking character so far in XIV

>>145498892
But you posted before him???

>>145497953
>Not liking reverse traps
Are you gay, Brick, my man?

>>145499162
Reverse traps are the worst thing ever. literally gayer than normal traps and those are male.

https://twitter.com/BornFreeTweets/status/742817025970561025/video/1
>Both of you, why don't you test them out at least once
This will be a plot to a doujin.

>chariot: gay furry
>brick: pedophile

what other trips are degenerate as fuck

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m-mother, I...

@PR_Balrog
Fighting games become repetitive after a while sadly and even with fighting games being easier now the barrier of entry is extremely hard.

>>145499015
I'll play. ID is Freakazoidesque

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sYR7hdKys0

Antonov best boy

>>145499327
>liking girls is gay
What did he mean by this

See me in Girl Fight

>>145499672
He really should just quit FGs and go play Smash or LoL already. He's been whining for over a year now.

Will be funny to see him continue whining once he starts getting fucking rekt in Smash/LoL

>>145499709
says you're offline, ID is svaa if that's easier

>>145500096
Seriously he's being a fucking downer bitch about everything lately.

>>145497860
Please do't insult capcoms only new source of new artists for their street fighter team.

You can not defeat your enemy if you can not name your enemy

>>145500124
Possibly because I'm on PS4?

I'm not finding a room with that room ID.

>>145500471
I can always call him a faggot even if I dont know his name

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Soon

>>145500482
try up2a
if that doesn't work we'll have to do a public lobby

>>145500597
but then you would be fighting yourself

>>145499772
Hein looks amazing.

DOMINATION

>>145500705
no u

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omueu2nF4Rk

Have you seen this already?

Sounds like its literally pay 2 win

>>145500676
Still not finding anything.

>>145500931
alright, come to district 9B #32

>>145499772
Ralf and King look really good.

>>145501065
looks like it just doesn't like us

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>>145500918
>Atrocitus

so if liking reverse traps is gay, does that mean liking bridget is straight

>>145500240
>>145500096
Fuck off to your home >>>/capcomunity/

>>145501308
guess not
anybody else around for revelator?

>>145499772
Tiger & Dragon confirmed best music so far

>>145501979
I want this thick meme to end.

>>145502990
low test

>tfw want a ps4 now
I need to start getting this mugga

>>145503312
Isn't there still going to be that ps4 neo or whatever the fuck it's called soon?

Just wait for that, nigga.

>>145503312
good goy

>>145503312
Why? Nintendo won e3.

>>145503312
same here, but I'm waiting for NEO

who do you guys play in pokken

>>145503312
>perosna 5 in feb
Sega, can't you do one good thing once in a while and port everything to PC
Motherfuckers, sales report show that PC throws money at your stuff

>>145503617
chandelier

>>145503617
braixen

>>145503617
Garchomp. He didn't seem very good.

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>>145503520
hahahahaha no

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>>145500918
>western """"fighting games"""""

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SNK is giving it everything they got.

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>>145504078
Good.

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>>145504078
see me in 2k2, coon

>King of Fighters
>King
>Worst games in the genre

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>>145501979
K-Pop level thickness =/= Real thickness

Step the fuck up SNK, you can do better than that

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>>145504078
I'm really excited for Ralf, King, and Muimui. They all look like very strong characters.

>>145504516
>Mortal Kombat

>>145504295
mmm much sexy this grab )

>>145504078
PISSS said you're nothing but a yellow bellied dodger who has never touched a KoF game in his pathetic life. Is this true?

>>145504707
PISSS can fuck off to whatever crackhouse he came from.

>>145504078
I'd rather they stop receiving sony bucks so I can buy their game.

>>145504838
see me in 2k2 on fightcade, coon

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>>145503617
>playing pokken

>>145504491
fucking cuck

>>145504659
>sfv

>>145504838
>hitboxshill played kof ever since he was born loses to pisss who only played kof for 5 minutes just by playing off ST fundamentals

ST > any kof game

already a dodge what a surprise

>>145504838
Will you play him though? I mean for all the shilling you do for kof you never play games.

Then you use the excuse "oh I don't play games here because nobody plays games here I just play IRL where I can actually play games" when you just come to this thread to get angry about opinions other than yours.

Don't dodge.

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i've barely played kof i just want to play this guy and dump on him

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>>145504838
DESTROYED

>>145499772
Ralf climax is dope

>>145505294
fucking cuck

>>145504838
anyone else think John is just Dank except a KoF shitposter instead of a KI one

>>145504838
Lol I knew it, you really don't play games

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>>145504838

>>145505294
cute marisa

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>>145504838
And yet you dodge him

>>145505294
thats gay

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http://www.soniccenter.org/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=5872

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What are the odds the "June" update will actually be out in June?

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>>145504838
You're going to dodge HIM? You can't insult someone then dodge them, lmao.

btw HBR, want to see me in 98? I need to give another trip the taste of my dick in KoF

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>>145506164
Whoa 0 posts you truely uncovered a dark past here, letsplaykid.

>>145506275
I'd like to be in June, if you catch my drift.

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[19:48] <JohnXuandou> I'm not playing 02 and I don't want anything to do with pisss
[19:48] <JohnXuandou> people can say whatever, I don't care

what a fucking dodger

hitboxcoon

>>145506275
31th of every month is still that month.

>>145506327
Go back to discord pls and take your dirty junkie butt buddy PISSS with you

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Brook Universal Fighting Board or PS360+?

>it's another pisss and his discord kindergarten crew shit up the thread episode

>>145506502
>>145506514
oh my god people are showing up and asking to play games, get them out of here!

>>145506510
Do you care about spending an extra $30 or not? If you don't, get the UFB.

>>145506514
i just wanted to see them fight, pisss said HBR never even played kof ever and shills it nonstop and i didn't believe him until now

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i just realised there is no car crusher stage in sf5

WOW

le trips drama xdd

just ignore this shit desu

>>145506616
fucking cuck

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How come all the trips that "play" KoF dodge people they could easily shit on? Reminder that Chariot also dodged Slim of all people too.

>>145506514
just so you know i'm not "friends" with piss, I just like to see trips on /fgg/ get dumped on.

>>145506642
why'd you dodge me????

>>145506660
https://www.fightcade.com/id/JohnXuandou


>>145506502
Are you jealous that I play games?

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>being such a little bitch you dodge pisss of all people

>>145506669
Looking at this thumbnail I thought this was a SMT MC and Rufus was his persona

who does pisss even play in 02

how much of a loser do you have to be to dodge people in a game they don't even play?

Is there any trip more based than PISSS?

>>145507039
he doesn't even play the game, but i think athena and two other random chars and then he just mashes for fun

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>>145507039
athena/yuri/X

Totally not Pisss here and I think Pisss is the most based dude of /fgg/, discord and r/kappa.

>>145507170
fucking cuck

goddamn, this general gets worse by the minute

You guys whine about trips and discord drama but where was the thread going before HBR dodged be honest it was dead as hell

>>145507295
yeah people asking to play games what the fuck??

stupid newtrip

>>145507341
i don't get the hate on the discord, people actually play games there and there's tons of shit talk

>>145507295
literally who?

>>145500735
nah he looks like a prancing nance

Anyone wanna play doa 5 on ps3?

>>145506442
smart guy. playing angry autists makes you always lose, win or not.

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discord and sfv sucks, capcucks can't recover

>>145507128
Meeeeeeeee

>>145507295
Maybe it would be fun if you asked for games in something people played

>>145507386
People play games here all the time.

>>145507386
fucking cuck

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>>145506642
The price is fine with me so long as it delivers what it promises and doesn't have any extra lag or bullshit as part of the package.

>>145507512
games as in only sfv and guilty gear

>>145507170
fucking cuck

meppz ruins everything for everyone
like if i'm allowed to live why is meppz allowed too

>>145507567
I haven't heard any complaints about lag. PS3 and 360 stuff should be fine forever and whenever a PS4 update comes out they're really quick to push a firmware that fixes broken compatibility so it should all be fine on that end as well.

remember that guy that always used to post webms of shit
I think his name was doug funny or something
do we like him or hate him?

>>145507585
Those are still games. You may not like them, but they so get played here.

>>145507585
fucking cuck

>>145507585
fucking cuck

>>145507768
stop this cringe pls

>>145507585
cuck fucking

>>145507768
Doug's a cool dude

>>145507585
fucking cuck

>>145507764
KoF is broken, just like you

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>>145507781
>>145507784
why don't you fight him then

I shitpost for /kspg/

>>145507768
you're thinking of voidere

So is there a good Revelator tournament on youtube that has raven and haehyun playable?

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>>145507768

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>>145508075
Literally just went to bed. E3 is over for the most part so I can play tomorow.

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>>145508261

can you guys take doug back
we don't want him in the discord

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>>145508261

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Real talk: everyone in the discord actually plays fighting games and doesn't dodge or hide behind anonymity like a baby

I need you Mui Mui.

>>145507170
fucking cuck

>>145507585
I'll play mvc2 if you want.

>>145508303
>s-street fighter is totally not anime guys
fucking capcucks

>>145508261
>>145508357
jesus christ the discord sounds fucking awful I bet I could beat them in whatever dumb memegame they "claim" to play

>>145507512
Hell fuckin no they don't lmaao?

>>145508427
Who actually made this post

>fgg pretends it likes tekken now

ummm lol? this is and always will be capcom general

who is the pupwa of this thread

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>>145508470

>>145508427
Then stay there and stop shitting up this thread for no reason.

>>145508420
fucking cuck

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>>145508538
see me in Neo Turf Masters

>>145508303
>>145508559
i wanna see them have a hate sex threesome

>>145508623
fucking cuck

>tripdiaps
>hurr dodge lmao

ummm leave

>>145508604
Shitting up the thread? What was actually being discussed in this dead ass general besides a whole lot of nothing?

>>145508501
post fightcade name

>>145508604

I've mostly only posted here looking for games and every time someone replies "go back to discord!!1" People here just want to streamboar and don't actually care about having fun or getting better.

Also, does anybody NA want to play ST or 3S?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWj9_hwLHuY

>>145508869
>does anybody NA
You aren't NA.

>>145508427
>Complaining about anonymity
>>>/reddit/

>>145508912
what did he mean by this?

>>145508941
>Complaining about reddit

>>>/reddit/

>>145508869
fucking cuck

UNIEL ON STEAM WHEN

>>145509053
Who are you quoting?

>>145508535
kys

>>145509107
This summer™

discord is infinitely better than this shit general

>>145508941
>>145509053
>complaining
>>>/tumblr/

>>145509249
this general is already in discord

Nobody here is even asking for games but armbird but apparently armbird is part of the problem lol??

>>145509249
Great, so go back there already.

>>145508623
nice meme game

>>145509249
stay in your containment zone

>>145509361
I asked if anyone wanted to play doa 5

REVELATOR IS ALREADY FUCKING DEAD

>>145509361
>but armbird but apparently armbird
armbird is a fucking cuck

Discordfags ruin another general

RIP

>>145508463
no thanks i haven't played in a while and prob forgot every thing i might start playing again tho

>>145509546
fucking cuck

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kof2k2 tourney tomorow
winner gets nothing and bragging rights

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>kof xiv station

a good day for video games, even though capcom continues to be a no-show

>>145509514
If you're around tomorrow I'll play.

>>145509539
>people who actually want to play games ruin a general that's dedicated to sniff posting and retards

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Rip SFV ;_;7

>>145509546
Nice dodge.

>>145509771
If you want to play fighting games there's no way you're good at them.

if you dont play SFV just leave

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STOP
MAKING
FUN
OF
SFV
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GOOFY GOOBERS

>>145510000
Dumb quad poster.

>>145510000
This general is slow enough, I can't imagine what it would be like with only 5 posters

>>145509546
fucking cuck

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>>145510000
checked

so the discord faggots are the ones doing all the hate on kof lately, got it.

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>>145510000
sfwhat?

>>145510369
wrong anonny diaper, the discord actually plays KOF

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>>145510369
Nice projection

>>145510409
Who the fuck finds those retarded facial expressions arousing?

>>145510075
We all know that the only people that think SF5 isn't perfect are shitposters trying to make people that play their dead games.

>>145510578
fucking cuck

>>145510578
Who the fuck finds retarded things like women arousing?

I heard the Ky vs Sol theme from XX was in revelator but I don't see it on the song list for the ost

http://ebten.jp/arc/p/4510772160070/

it was named "No Mercy"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDk1MQU0n1o

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>>145510075
NO

>>145510369
nah i love kof

>>145511115
His parents must be proud.

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>>145511543
**xir parents

>>145511713
***xeir parent

holy shit, benimaru's ex move is a projectile.

https://www.twitchdottv/devolverdigital


/v/72427073

kof footage starts at 3:04

>>145511864
****xrd parent

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how has nobody fucking posted gameplay of balrog by now?

its almost as if the type of no-life loser that would attend e3 is the same type of cuck who believes in things like "well we made a promise to capcom not to leak in-game footage..."

>>145512128
because they arent showing off balrog? bornfree accessed that cutscene by mistake

>>145512128
tell me about balrog..
why does he wear the chain?

>>145509514
>freemium game requires an online subscription
i just dont understand this

>>145512545
He's a lowkey Black Rights Activist, who wears it as a symbol of being a slave.
So long as he is his own boss with his own fight money, the chain remains intact.
Mike Bison must slay Major Bison to end the oppression of his people. Win back the peace of African blood with an Iron Glove.

[/spoiler]Boxer confirmed for T7FR DLC[/spoiler]

>>145513070
>Fuck up the spoiler
Of course I'd do that. Fucking flu.

>>145511038
Yes, Its in the game I have it.

>>145503312
Same, I just said fuck it and bought GGXrdR on PS3, after putting 200hrs on GGXrdS on PC, i fucking regret it but whatever.

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>>145513070
Balrog sucks though, Tekken already got a superior boxer.

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>>145513543
Street fighter already has had a superior boxer since 1997

>Still no word about KOFXIV's netcode
It's like they really want this shit to flop

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waifufags btfo, Balrog is the most beautiful DLC char. you can see it even from potato camera footage

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>>145513740
KOF already has had a superior boxer since 94

>>145513328
does it have the same name?

i really want to hear it.

>>145512128
They actually made Balrog look good.

>>145513759
The most important question as with all DLC characters so far is what sort of food will his hair resemble when he takes off the hood

>>145513759
yep, if I had to guess I think the guy who modeled zangief also made boxer

Is it confirmed all 6 DLC Characters will be playable in the story mode?

Aren't PC players just gonna hack the game so they are playable indefinitely?

>>145513917
Oh shit waddup Heavy D!

>>145514180
yep, it's quite simple to do it actually, probably day1 mod. but they are still ""beta"" versions wich means they are gonna get big nerfs and changes when they get their proper releases

>>145513759
It's so good. The alt colors are probably great too.

Does ps4 sticks works on pc?

>>145514861
No.

How do "wall sticks" work in Revelator?

Is there a set amount of body types in Xrd, like oh I'm fighting this guy with body type 1 of 3 so I do combo 1 of 3 on him, or do I have to check to see if a combo or setup works on every member of the cast?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnQ-iFRWoNg

season 2 never

>>145496512
Is Mika good for a beginner?

How have you people deluded yourselves into thinking kof has good graphics?

>>145515190
haha us nerds that self insert as a girl

>>145515051
its mostly by 3 weights, but once you go optimal you might have a specific for pot/millia or whatever

its nice being able to choose between the bnb that works on everyone or spend the extra effort to do a little more

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>>145513759
>No tattoos on the face
What was the point?

>>145516156
Do you know whos in what weight tier?

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>>145515962
>us
i want to rape tomoko cuz i know she'll call me back for more

>>145516362
http://www.dustloop.com/wiki/index.php?title=GGXRD-R/System_Data
first chart

So why do people like Dudley over Rog

>>145516632
Thanks

>>145516632
Damn, GG is deeper than I thought. No wonder it's hard to pick up.

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How do I pick Top Tier?

>>145516721
go to eventhubs dot net
check the tier list
pick one of the first 3 names on top and play

>>145516721
Lose so much with your favorite char you just say fuck it.

See: Ghodere, snakeyez

>>145516693
those are just numbers
think of weights as a quick way devs made to make it so you're not doing the same combo 24/7 at endgame

>>145516846
see snakeyez who doesn't play gief in 5?

lmao

>>145516869
But I just want to learn one optimal combo for every character like blazblue and street fighter. Learning more than one combo is too complicated!

>>145516670
I like ex mgb juggles and 50/50s also rog bores the fuck out of me in the same way bison does

>lines at sfv are non existent
>kof is packed

painful

>>145516943
He dropped gief

>>145517338
>source

oh wait its dank...

>>145517338
SFV is already out

>>145517470
>>145509803

>>145517530
a new character and story mode that are suppose to save sfv

but nobody cares

>>145517338
why would you expect packed lines for a game thats already out? yeah theres some new things being shown off but really its just ibuki

Who should I main in 3s?

>>145517925
SA1 Ryu

>>145517880
a brand new character for a content starved game would be a huge draw though

guys did you hear anakron dyes his hair to hide greys, how scandalous

>>145518214
Who?

>>145517654
>no pictures of capcom's booth

epic dank

forgot your trip

Fuck, Guile is terrible in sfv.

He's bottom with Gief. His sonicboom framedata is just slightly better than Chun's fireball.

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>>145517338
>>145517470
>>145518470
LMFAOFOAFOAFO

I saw a video somewhere where in 3S, akuma's KKZ instakilled the other player, does anyone know how this works? Does anyone have a video of this?

>>145518616
>comparing anything to chunli's
don't. you're only get hurt, she has a better fireball game than ryu, better divekick game than cammy, better footsies than karin, etc..

>>145518470

goddamn, you just got btfo.

see:>>145518663

is there a list of available avatar heads for rev?

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>>145517925
The only character that matters

>>145518401
rekt

>>145518663
B T F O
T F O
F O
O

>>145518663
>>145518852
>>145519024
??sfv is already out and everyone has it lomao

>>145517925
akuma the master of the fist

>>145517925
makoto!

>>145517925
white dhalsim

>>145519801
see me in mvc1

the neutral in kof is great.

>>145520701
This. I won't be surprised if it overtakes SFV in popularity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7t0jy7Eb_Y

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>>145520701
>>145520865

>>145521014

>day -100 footage with players who are playing the game for the first time

also, the neutral still looks fun.

post your iori webm again, i know you want to.

>>145521014
It's already way better than SFV. Animations look fluid and the graphics are solid, but I'm sure they'll improve it more by release.

>>145521014
damn look at those footsies, I can now see what juicebox was talking about

>>145520996
so, its a dash with some invincibility ?

http://shoryuken.com/2016/06/14/injustice-2-will-have-a-level-playing-field-version-for-tournament-play/

well, that's a relief

>>145521709
I mean theres no reason to assume anything about it just yet, who knows what it does

>>145521806
did people think the stats thing would be anything other than a gimmick to attract casual players? Im not even an nrs player but how could they think this custom smash bullshit would be tournament standard

>>145520996
i hope somebody can hack pc sfv and make the shadaloo soldiers playable online

>>145520470
no thanks i just played a long st set

why does everyone want to play marvel today

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damn dude

>>145522804
woah... that must be at least 50 people!

why's this place so dead and shitty

>>145522653
Alright sorry, maybe some other time

>>145519684
yeah and a new character and story mode isnt driving people to go see it at all

shit is literally empty

keep trying to downplay it marketer

>>145523159
no apology needed i just haven't been playing mvc games much lately

sfv players mad aa fuck lmao

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so this....
is the power...
of SFV footsies....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtLw4IAR3Ps

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>>145523140
sniff fighter is dead

>>145512128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7t0jy7Eb_Y
Here's his V-Skill
His in-game model looks nice

is daimon better as a second or an anchor
I used him as a secondary in XIII since I had shen as anchor but even with just a little meter+HD he really knocked people around