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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
In archive

You let the thread die
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die already!!!
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I'm sorry ;_;
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>>145414285
No.
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The plot of Apocalypse is fucking retarded
>hurr the great will is good and YHVH was going against it and also he made Lucifer, not people wishing for him
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We finally had been set free...
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huh we got killed again
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>>145418042
I'll never let you die, SMTG
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0-5 Sun
6 Amala Labyrinth
7-9 Legwork
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>>145418436
Time to go greet the voice.
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>>145418436
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RIP
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>>145418645
What is that image?
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It's dead cause everyone is jerking off to E3
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>>145421478
Anything decent or is it all rubbish?
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>>145421565
Kojima is making an mpreg game.
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>>145421565
I only know about what my friend told me, and what vitagen was screaming about.

Sony had a bunch of VR shit I guess, and Last Guardian is coming out this year.
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>>145421478
>Mfw Sony showed P5 for exactly 2.5 seconds just like I predicted
kek
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Persona is big, they said!
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guys /pg/ is making fun of us again
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>>145423672
and are you gonna let 'em?
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>>145424732
Let us sleep, please.
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>>145414114
>>Previous thread
>In archive
OP is a lazy faggot who needs to get killed by Jack Frost >>145127660
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>>145424732
why do we need to make fun of them when they already are the joke.
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>>145425103
damn son
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>>145425015
I already got killed by him in DDS2
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Die for me!
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>>145423849
Should i play raidou /smtg/?
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>>145418645
Is that Sarashi Ronin?
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>>145427364
Yes
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>>145427364
Play 1 first since the 2nd game's gameplay is better. They're fun and kinda short so you could probably finish both pretty quickly.
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>33 replies
>they are all bumps
Reminder that there's no reason to keep this general alive
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>>145430010
I didn't bump though.
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>>145430010
Except there's a new mainline coming to the west soon and people discuss SMT all the time, so yes there is a reason to keep this general alive
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Can't you link to the last thread properly?
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So is
>merging with /pg/
and
>non-white flavored kill this gen
the Polytheist Alliance to /smtg/'s Law, Neutral, Chaos?
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I WILL ___ CRACK!
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>>145430872
The merge already happened those who aren't there are on /r/ megaten or memeing on the discord. /smtg/ is a barren wasteland kept alive be a single autist bumping the thread and whenever he falls asleep the general dies.
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>>145431381
>discord
what is this meme anyway
also >r/megaten not being for autists
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>>145431381
I doubt those two claims are legit, and this is more about people losing interest like it was happening right before the announcement of IV FINAL.

If they're true then nothing of value was lost, and the general would be better off dead.
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>>145423672
It's literally nothing.
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>>145430862
Already called out OP for his faggotry. Read the thread, dickface.
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RIP general.

You were alright, but I guess this place will stay dead until September.
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>>145433440
hi
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>>145428943
Shorter than DDS?
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>>145431715
Sorry, I just started working a job full time so I can't post or even play SMT too often. I hope I can finish Eternal Punishment soon... I didn't expect to work 11 hours a day...
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>>145435790
Similar story here, gave up NEET life and now I can't post here and play games all the time.
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>>145435790
>>145435994

I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THIS NEET LIFE
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>>145436136
i would if i could
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>>145436136
post NEETdom it's just a different flavor of hell desu no friends,no girlfriend,live to work and work to live cycle I guess sudoku is the only cure for human failures after all.
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>>145436136
Being a part of the workforce doesn't make me feel any better. At least I have money, I guess.
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>>145437214
Same, I'm working on finishing my MegaTen collection but I just feel like shit.
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I need you Fumi
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BaofuDSM to the rescue
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>>145434903
I haven't played DDS yet but both Raidou games are action RPGs so they pretty easy. I finished the 2nd game with 75 hours but that was because I did most of the side quests and was trying to max out loyalty for every demon I fused and encountered.
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Don't die.
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>>145444846
Die for Me!
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>>145445090
My love for Fumi is eternal though.
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>>145433843
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Just got Naoya's ending. Why is he so based?
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goodnight
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Hoy.
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>>145447040
Because he's handsome and smart?
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Deadly fury or Gaea rage?
Stats are World of [STR]
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>>145454342
Gaea Rage.
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>>145454342
Deadly fury.
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>>145454342
Deadly Fury
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Hoy.
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This artwork is 10/10, holy shit
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>Hyped for Summer release for Apocalypse
>Realise that being an Ausfag is counted as Europe

lol
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>>145421565
Basically Microsoft killed it and SONY announced Crash Bandicoot HD remakes.
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SMT Apocalypse confirmed for 4th of July.
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>>145460491
Link?
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Hoy.
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>>145462998
Hoy.
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>>145435790
>>145435994
I did the same. I work 40 hours a week, so I hardly have any time for video games, and even less time to come here and post.
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I've been wageslaving for a while, so I can safely drop some cash for more SMT goodness
Should I wait for Final or just get SMT IV
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>>145466438
Get SMT IV first.
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How does the alignment mini game in Tokyo Destiny Land works, again? I'm trying to become a neutralfag again by going through the Chaos hallways over and over but shit doesn't work. I've been a Lawfag since I killed Yama.
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>>145466715
If I remember correctly, there are four rooms in the bottom and they contain NPCs of different alignments: C L C L. Each NPC gives you like 75 points of his alignment

However, note that you lock yourself out of Law if you kill that Angel that hangs out with the Law Hero and out of Chaos if you kill Mother Echidna.
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>>145468159
I've met the Gaian at the end of the first hallway a few times and I'm still Law. The bird in the other room doesn't spawn again.
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>>145468264
Did you tell the Angel guy and Law Hero you would help them and then kill Mother Echidna? That locks you into Law.

I never go too far into either extreme, but in my experience just meeting one sends me to Neutral and meeting both NPCs sends me to the opposite alignment.
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>>145468596
You mean in Shinagawa? I told them to fuck off.
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I'm reading the original digital devil story that inspired the series and wew.
Not what I expected.
What I really want to know is how the hell a book like that got popular enough to warrant a video game.
It's not bad or anything, just very, odd, that's all.
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Why is this allowed?
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>>145472808
Because Nocturne's development was a shitshow
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>>145474910
Explain further.
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Apologize.
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>>145476272
Negotiation is back?
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>>145476341
yep
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>>145476341
Seems like there's a chance (or maybe it's guaranteed) when you have the opportunity to do an AoA, you can instead demand something from the demon who is begging for mercy.
>Give me your strength
>Give me something
>Loot is good
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So I finally downloaded Nocturne and I was having a blast until this guy shows up.

Fuck me, you guys weren't kidding. How the hell do I beat this fucker?
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>>145477145
Buff/debuff. Buy Hifumi.
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>>145477246
I dekaja him but he just rebuffs the very next turn. And he debuffs my entire party every turn as well.
Hifumi's great advice though, I'll get on that.
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>>145477145
I was rpetty underleveld for it, but if you have Hifumi equipped, and maybe get lucky with the RNG you might pull thourgh.
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>>145477145
GET THE BUFFS
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>>145478050
I'm level 18. I really feel like I should have Media, but grinding another level doesn't seem fun at all. I'll try it with Hifumi equipped.
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Would smtg suck my demongirl cock?
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>>145478935
No, fuck off.
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>>145478935
Nope, we'd just kill you.
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>>145479126
>>145479053
I thought I was a waifu.
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>>145479179
Only hugs for Mara, but you're not Mara, imposter.
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When is Atlus showing their stuff at E3? I want more info on Apocalypse in the west
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>>145478272
>I'm level 18
You should have Ame no Uzume who has Media and Voids Force. Get a Nozuchi, too. He absorbs Force.
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>>145479395
15 minutes their booth opens
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>>145478935
>girl
>cock
It doesn't work that way anon. Sorry, but you'll always be a boy. Unless you're Jenna Angel.
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>>145477246
>>145478050
>>145478075
I did it. God that was satisfying. Is Matador the only boss people have a lot of trouble with in Nocturne, or am I in for a couple more down the line? Matador really seems infamous for being hard, I've known of him for years before even touching Nocturne.
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>>145478050
>>145479752
To be honest, I got a bit lucky with the RNG. I threw a dekaja gem at him and he only Red Capote'd me once more a bit down the line. The first few times I fought him he just instantly rebuffed himself, which made my whole part miss him and basically making my turns useless.

>>145479563
Nozuchi definitely was a help. He healed himself each time Matador threw a Mazan at me, and my character could just heal the party whilst they buff and attack.
Great fight, this is why I like SMT.
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>>145476593
Forget everything negative I said about persona 5 this game's gonna be great! Negotiation and demons as enemies? Looks like Atlus finally got their shit together!
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>>145479752
Prep yourself for more death
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>>145480260
Fuck, I can already feel the Hama's.
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>>145479653
Link? I don't know how E3 works because I usually don't give a shit about modern games, but isn't it like, when their booth opens we get a trailer of their new game or something?
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>>145480513
No. Those are the conferences. Booths opening up is when people can go check their shit out in person. Just demos and stuff.
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I think I might be more hyped for the new Zelda than for Apocalypse now. I'm sorry, /smtg/.
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>>145480598
Are there regular people going to E3 or all journos?
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>>145480965
I'm more hyped for Nier Automata than for Apocalypse and Persona 5.
I'm not sorry.
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I'm so glad I'm playing games instead of watching nintendo's stream
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>>145480986
Yeah. You can buy a pass and go there if you have the money.
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>>145481095
Good taste, anon. I never cared about P5. Demon negotiation being back makes me slightly interested though.
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>>145481382
I'm on the other side of the Atlantic, so no thank you. They're having Apocalypse there though, so I wonder if we're gonna get some more details on that game now.
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booth opened
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>>145481776
Fuck, someone has to stream this
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>>145481849
Someone probably is. Check Twitch.
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>>145481558
Automata has been king in my hype charts since it was announced last year. GOTY 2017.
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>>145481919
Can't find a shit there. Guess I'll just have to wait for the articles, fuck
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>>145482212
Automata, Zelda, and Apocalypse are looking like good shit and I feel hyped about vidya again. Just wish those DMC5 rumors came true.
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>>145482439
I'm also hyped for Bloodstained, finally a Castlevania game that isn't a Pachinko machine.
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>>145479752
For me he and hell biker were the hardest fiends.
For rest of the game I'd say the random battles will kill you more than the bosses, especially on hard.
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>>145479752
>>145479752
Matador is special
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>>145483256
>For rest of the game I'd say the random battles will kill you more than the bosses
You speak the truth. Just lost half an hour's worth of fucking about in Kalpa. Seems I'm in for a ride with this game.
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>>145481558
>Demon negotiation being back
Not hapenning anon, they already showed the P5 battle UI and there's no negotiation options on it.
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>>145415945
But YHVH did make Lucifer in mythology.

The whole people wishing for it is IV Lucy talking out of his ass since the Lawfaqs wish for order and he immediately states Flynn should be king on chaos because the sons of man wish for it. People wish for God to banish despair as Jon Merkabah says on Neutral.
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>>145482960
I really want to like this guy's designs, but the sameface is intense; in that respect he ans Kaneko are very similar, but at least kaneko's designs weren't intended to be obvious fap bait.
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Shin Megami Tensei II iOS localization sometime after Shin Megami Tensei IV: Apocalypse releases.
Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey 3DS sometime after Persona 5 releases.
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>>145485446
:>
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I wouldn't mind if the one on the left was the original design, but the fact that they changed it because women's skin is scary is fucking retarded. Either way, it makes my dick rock hard though.
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>>145486358
Cyber Sluts is such a good game.
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>>145486579
I enjoyed it too. Hard mode was bullshit.
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Live.
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>>145488819
Link.
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Does Eternal Punishment get super good at some point? I thought people praised this as a classic, i enjoyed nocturne, SJ, SH and DDS2 more than this so far.
Up to SMILE mall, after fighting the fortune telling lady in the TV station.
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That's right
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>new Persona 5 gameplay just got leaked
>Personafags can only talk about dubs instead of gameplay

What's wrong with those people? If they want anime voice than just go watch a fucking anime.
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>>145466715
I killed Haniel and went back to Neutral.
Then I killed Echidna and went back to Law.
What the fuck is going on? Am I locked into Law or Neutral?
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>>145492068
Locked to slut
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>>145491787
I seriously hate how that annoying little shit follows the MC and comments on everything he does.
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>>145492068
I had to go through BOTH the paths that led to the Gaian and Gurr to change my alignment.
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>>145494430
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https://twitter.com/robtachi/status/742833189262000128
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>>145495106
THEY ACTUALLY DID IT
THE ABSOLUTE
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>>145495106
But if Persona has that implemented, and it's positively received, won't that kill mainline SMT for realsies?

So why am I still excited to see more?
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>>145495040
I-I was just kidding, look >>145494574 I even gave real advice!

And if you make it this fun to bully you...
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>>145495389
>won't that kill mainline SMT for realsies?
SMT still has alignments and less otaku pandering. Unless they decide Final is going to be the new standard for SMT game writing we'll be okay.
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>>145495830
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>>145495568
I just want to know if I'm locked to Neutral or Law!
I would keep playing and find out by myself but I'm too tired and my eyes hurt
Stop that.
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Still no Apocalypse release date
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>>145496015
I get the concern. It's not hard to think they might get the idea that they need to add that stuff into SMT more because Persona is their best seller. I have faith though, because they'd have to go full retard to want to compete with themselves.
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>>145496048
Well, no
I'm pretty sure you can still change it
Good night, m8
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>>145496354
I want to believe that they have enough storyboards to keep reusing the new models, since they reused the models from Nocturne accross a couple of games, but if we get stuck with P5 and like 3, or 4 P5 spinoffs
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>>145496354
>latest SMT game borrows from Persona
>latest Persona game borrows from SMT
Are we witnessing the death of the series and the return of Shin Megami Tensei: Persona?
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>>145496221
Didn't it get pushed to next year? No, I think that might be P5.
Maybe you are PAL region though?
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>>145496558
I want to go neutral because I imagine there will be more stuff to murder as usual but it doesn't really matter. I'm okay with sucking some yellow cock too.
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>>145497110
Don't worry, m8
Just get your rest and figure it out after that.

But If you really can't escape your hunger; just remember that there's always /coffhee/
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>>145495106
>you can negotiate with Personas like in SMT:Nocturne
>Personas
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>the enemies even have that sudden centering of the camera like they did in Nocturne/DDS that was lost in P3/4
nice
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>>145486669

Yeah, I started that game up and went straight to Hard Mode. First fight with Jimiken is kicking me in the dick. Is it worth it to grind or am I in for a mess? I guess this is what I get for taking a break from IV.
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>>145497462
Sleep is for the weak.
Coffee sucks, it tastes like shit and destroys my stomach.
>>145498164
Jimiken is fucking impossible in hard mode, especially his second fight. If you've got the time for that then grind I guess, some bosses are also literally impossible even if you grind though. There's nothing wrong with going back to normal.
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>atlus booth is now closed
>not a single shred of information on Apocalypse or a video has appeared on the internet since Persona is grabbing all the attention
How?
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>>145499874
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>>145499874
/pg/ won.
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>>145500707
I'm okay with Persona being the biggest because that means they can keep the fan-service mostly there, but to think absolutely no one cared about SMT? That's a shame.
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>>145501201
The game's been out in Japan for quite some time and it looks way too similar to IV, I'm not surprised not a lot of people cared about it. Maybe there's some stuff out there we haven't found yet, get to it anon.
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Devil Summoner/If translation when? Localized SMT1/2 for android when?
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>>145504087
Never ever
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>>145498482
Isn't alignment locked after Echidna and Haniel?
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>>145505160
Why didn't SJ get a souped up 3DS version?
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>>145505994
too hardcore
I would have wanted it
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>>145505160
Only after Tokyo is flooded
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Did Final/Apocalypse fix STR builds?
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I could let it die but this is a world where only the strong survive
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>>145505160
>>145507094
I have actually changed my alignment after Tokyo got flooded, but it was probably a bug and got me trapped without being able to finish the game (due to having already killed some demon lords as Neutral)
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>>145507553
I remember some importers mentioning that they did change how the physical skill damage formula works, basically fixing it.
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can't wait for persona 5 ^^
aoty btw (by the way)
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So the merge has happened?
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>I'm finally in the /SMT&PG/

feels good tbqh. together we stand, alone we fall apart.
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We can finally become one.
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Hi /pg/
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Hoy, sup dude.
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>>145513829
It's /smt&pg/ now
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I've heard you guys like waifus
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WHO FUCKED IT UP
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>>145495106
Can't endure this game, even with demon negotiation.

The characters look like faggots. Doomguy is better.
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>>145514452
>The characters look like faggots
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>>145514452
>The characters look like faggots.
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tf is this game?
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>>145514546
>>145514606

>>145513913
>>145513913
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SMTIV is $13.99 right now
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>>145514848
Anything for Soul Hackers?
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>>145514770
>p-please don't criticize my series o-okay I was just kidding please leave!

I thought you guys were chaos aligned.
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>>145514848
Where? I don't want digital
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>>145515030
e-shop :/
>>145514916
doesn't look like
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Hoy.
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>>145516839
yoH
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Ded
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>>145514761
It's a game for children
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>>145521518
>he doesn't like the game that Persona copied
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>>145521758
>Persona
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>>145459375
Yeah, I fucking love Doi.
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>>145489163
If you don't like it you probably won't. I didn't like the gameplay until I got the hang of gathering cards and summoning Personae and now I dig it but the music is legendary and the story's pretty fun.
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>>145521758
>the game that copied Last Bible/SMT
Fixed that for you.
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>>145528291
AbdA
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>>145528291
I'm impressed
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Please, make this a real world
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>Siegfried, Jeanne D'Arc, and Yoshitsune are famed
>no Daisoujou
I really liked my first play through of SMT IV but if im honest it messes up a lot of small things.
>>145459375
Man the guest designs are really shit
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>>145532779
They really are. At least Medusa got a rework in Apocalypse.
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I really liked Medusa's design in IV. Then again, I've been a fan of Nirasawa for years. What does Medusa look like in Final?
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SMT x Monster Rancher when?
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>>145534173
Same as the old one, but with a nice face.
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>>145534173
I like her much better now
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>>145534321
I want to fuck that snake
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>>145534321
>>145534451
Semen demons
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>>145535004
This a new demon from Final? Never seen it before.
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>>145535487
Cleopatra was DLC.
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>>145535567
I see. I can't wait to pirate all the DLC this time around
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come alive
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>>145427916
I like that Raidou's gigantic cock is a plot device
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>>145480256
>negotiation
>actual demons
>is that a fucking sub machine gun in my Persona again
there's only one thing that could make this better
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>>145538487
I want to fuck Maya as she calls me "little brother."
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>>145538582
"Let's Positive Dicking!"
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SMT V when so I can stop coming to this dead thread?
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>>145540283
The next SMT game will be on the ps4, you heard it here first
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>>145540443
I hope so
Or at least on a home console

I am sick of playing my games on tiny screen
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>>145541309
>won't go on a nintendo console after FE
>3DS is practically done already
>Persona 5 engine was made from scratch
I think there is a high chance its on the ps4, if not SMT V, then some spinoff series.
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Can they at least announce the release date for SMTIVA?
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>>145541576
>10 years between Nocturne and IV
2023 for SMT V confirmed
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>>145541651
Summer*

(TL's note: Summer means September)
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>>145541692
Get hyped boys
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Anyone else have trouble with Nocturne randomly freezing? I must've lost hours worth of grinding/progress by now. Is there anything I can do about it?
I downloaded it on my PS3 if this helps.
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>>145495389
P1 and 2 had negotiation.
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>>145542792
>I downloaded it on my PS3 if this helps.
Pal version?
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some oc, someone could probably make it better tho
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>>145543446
I would imagine not as it's not on the EU shop. I used my US account to download it, so I'm use it's the American version.
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>>145543623
Then I'm not sure. The Pal version of Nocturne has a lot of cases of freezing, specially after beating the game. I never heard any problems with the NTSC version. Try redownloading.
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>>145514960
Nah, this general is full of crybabies who don't want to engage in an argument and just want to hide in a safe space to keep the "undesirables" out.
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>>145543868
>argument
I see no arguments
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>>145544052
Oh right it's all just shitposting by terrible people that should be ignored.
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>>145544107
You got it
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Did Atlus do their E3 thing yet?
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>>145544782
Yes, their booth was open yesterday, but no one cared about SMT.
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>>145545016
So we it's over and we got no info?
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>>145545175
I'm guessing the booth is open today as well, but we didn't get any info yesterday. The demo there was the same as one they've streamed in Japan already.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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>>145550997
Hoy
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>>145552636
Isabeau is so ugly, I can't wait to kill her again and mindbreak his stupid fuccboi bf.
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>>145552707
Why didn't they just give her long hair?
Why does Flynn have long hair?
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>>145552825
Long hair wouldn't have fixed her. Flynn's design is good with it.
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>>145552825
Last thing you want is hair in your eyes in battle.

Especially when you use a fucking sword.
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>>145486258
Why do you think this?
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>>145554078
He's the Oracle
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Who is the better doll waifu: Mary or the Pale Doll from Bloodborne?
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>>145556237
I like both.
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>>145543470
Pucci is that you?
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Just finished SMT1 and SMT2. Which one is the next most easy to pirate? Demikids and If?
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>>145557106
DemiKids and if... if you have a working gba /sfc emulator
P1 and 2 and DebiSama if you can read moon and have a PSP
Nocturne, DDS, P3, P4, and Raidou if you have at least an ok PC
SJ/DeSu base if you have an R4
IV, FINAL, SH, DeSu OC/RB if you have a 3DS
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>>145557106
KMT 1&2. If you can into moonspeak, there's also Majin Tensei 1&2.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95cJSZ7KJAs

>high heels
>nurse
>choker thing

MY DICK! This is my new waifu.
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>>145560029
Who cares about human girls, where's Alice?
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>>145560029
instead of waifu's we should discuss how they ruined the edge
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>>145560187
She was in the last PV.
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>>145560237
Really? Preordered.
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>>145560307
Die for Me is bears of mass destruction now though.
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>>145560384
Preorder cancelled.
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Finally, beat SMT Nocturne on Hard Mode.

Lucifer went down faster then i expected.

He wasn't even hard.
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>trying to enjoy nocturne
>my window opens to the side, so the top half is straight up opened while my AC covers the bottom half
>hear a strange sound
>a fucking bird and squirrel come into my room
>after a while they finally leave

Well shit. Now I have to waste time taping cardboard to cover up the open space instead of playing MegaTens.
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>>145560029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s1BGXq9jT8

This guy kinda looks like Junpei.
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>>145561538
>That Hoy
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>>145552950
Tell that to Flynn
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Hoy.
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>>145552707
>mindbreak
meaning what?
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>>145561405
>Not playing a physical copy or downloading the playstation store version while hiding alone in your room with all the windows closed
It's also freezing, why do you have the windows open?
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>>145566802
I live in Oregon. It was hot as fuck the other day, so I put AC in. The next day it rained, then it was hot as fuck again, and then it hailed yesterday. Oregon is bipolar as fuck.
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http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/15/atlus-usa-will-look-adding-japanese-voiceovers-persona-5-via-dlc/

The weaboos won.
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>>145567385
Atlus always says they'll "look at the possibility of adding Japanese voices" and it never happens.
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>>145567385
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/15/persona-5-reveals-newest-party-member-goro-akechi-cooperative-characters/

Male Naoto.
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https://youtu.be/mkazX7U2PCw
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>>145571368
Great, have to sign in to confirm my age bullshit.
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>>145571368
>Still no date
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Hoy.
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>>145571368
SUMMER 2016
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Well that means September 20th at worst then.
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Quick. Atlus just hired you to come up with a new SMT spin off. What do you make?
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>>145581637
Doom X SMT
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>>145581637
Does it need to be a game?
If not, SMT anime
If game, SMT X EO
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How many new demons are there in Apocalypse? ~50?
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>>145581637
Probably one of the most common suggestions, but Pokémon
>SMT gameplay
>more advanced buffing/debuffing
>more move variety in general
>pokeballs or conversation, either is fine by me
Of course never gonna happen because of the different ratings, though
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>>145584741
>~50?

http://gamers-high.com/megami4-final/kihonjohou/chigai.html
>消えた悪魔
are demons that got removed
>新たな悪魔
are new ones
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>>145479752
Enjoy the extra final boss if you're going True Demon route. He's the only that gave me a real hard time, and it was a helluva hard time.
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>>145525047
P2ISP's boss theme is addicting.
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Hoy.
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>>145581637
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Lover
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>>145587829
>Not RNG Demon Conversation: The VN
Yes please
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>>145587829
and then you go to the back of the store to buy the 18+ edition, shin megami tensei: devil fucker
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>>145587829
Featuring Anthony from Strange Journey!
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>>145585334
How the fuck does this game have the most demons in the series if more demons were removed from IV than were added?
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>>145560029
Erect
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>>145588183
Anthony is the self-insert protagonist.
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Hoy
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Don't die.
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Hoy
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How did he come back to life?
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>>145600043
The power of Hoys.
Just like /smtg/
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>>145561229
Is this bait?
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>>145602587
Why do you think that?
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>>145602774
The almost bragging "he wasn't even hard"
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>>145603509
Lucifer is a pushover, dude. He has Dekaja/Dekunda but almost never uses them and most of skills kind of suck except for Root of Evil/High King, those are the only skills that can really hurt but you should heal every turn anyway. Demi-fiend can easily take him down by himself with a few Freikugel, your demons are there just to use buffs/debuffs and heal.
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>>145603898
Okay, fair enough. I just was curious to see an explanation as I've yet to do a TDE run and have always heard he was tough.
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>Can't find a Soul Hackers copy that isn't over 50 euros
>Game is 10 euros in the eshop
Being a physical fag is suffering.
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>>145610518
Buy the American one ;^)
On a side note, I just finished getting all the DebiSama games. I might get the Saturn versions later.
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>>145611274
I'll have to embrace the fact that I'll never be rich enough to be a piece of shit hoarder.
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>>145603898
Beelze was P easy too
Matador killed me more times
I'll have to play DDS next to try to beat Satan and Demi-fiend
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>>145459375
mara is the only chariot that matters
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>>145470737
it was the 80s
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>>145611939
Yeah, I'm kinda spending ridiculous amounts of money cumulatively on MegaTen games, but whatever... Hopefully I'll feel some sort of fulfillment when I'm done...
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>>145489163
Maybe after you get Tatsuya. Fuck EP tho.
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>>145614093
Just pirate them
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>>145614093
You could always take pics of your collection here, I can assure you I'll be mad jelly if it's bigger than mine.
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>>145614359
and post it here*
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>>145614359
I posted some a but ago in an imgur link so I'll wait to post more when it's more complete. I'm gonna feel like shit if I can't get Fire and Ice Book.
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>>145614093
>fulfillment

you wont
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>>145614865
I know I won't... I'll never get Giten without spending $200 and we'll never play the mobile games...
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/smtg/, please help.
Ever since my accident, I've just had no interest for Nocturne. All the other games, I have played and even re-completed, even Soul Hackers and IMAGINE when it was up, but I just can't get into Nocturne anymore. It's partially because portables are just so comfy, but also because the Talk system just seems less fun. I find myself just forcing myself through encounters not really nervous but almost uninterested, happy for what bits of new stuff I get. Currently at the subway with the oni and I just am having the hardest time justifying finishing it.
Should I just force myself to keep going or just leave it be? I love the environments and battles are fun but I'm really just wanting to scratch that IV or SJ itch again and get the ends I never got last time.
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>>145616798
>should I force myself
No

Also I like playing on home console than portables
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>>145616798
Just leave it be if you're not enjoying it you casual.
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>>145614993
>I'll never get Giten without spending $200
you'll never get giten period, even on yahoo auctions japan it rarely shows up complete/in good condition

guys maybe it's because i'm desperate for smt but TMS's RPG elements looked pretty alright during the stream today, how can i atone
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>>145617016
I get too caught up in the whole casual thing and just try to play every game. I gotta learn to just play what I like, and not care.
>>145617171
I'd say wait for Apocalypse, play Fates instead, or just get the game if you really like it. It being a disappointment is a big reason for the dislike, but it's still decent. There's definitely better though, in my opinion.
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>>145617171
Play Ronde while doing a handstand; it's the only way to atone for your sins.
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>>145617595
*headstand
Handstand would be too hard, I admit.
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>>145617732
kinda funny you say that since i'm the anon who bought+uploaded ronde a year or two ago because i couldn't find the second disc or manual online. i've still got the game on my shelf
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>>145617171
>Baroque
I just picked up a sealed copy of that game with a black sticker over the barcode, is this good Y/N
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>>145618418
gotta ask anon, which console you get it for?
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>>145618718
I picked up a copy of the PS2 version, but I also own the Saturn version. It was only $12 bucks for it sealed.
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>>145619265
damn, not bad at all. i still need to pick up the saturn and ps1 versions at some point, not really sure why i haven't. i've got a collection of baroque shit and it's my favorite version of the game, i'm just extremely cheap i guess.
>>
Hoy.
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>>145619265
I have the PS2 one myself. Aparently the Euro release is very rare, on account of it selling about 17 copies.

Did anyone ever finish translating the manga? I think the first 2 or so were done.
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>>145622195
Nigga most people haven't even heard of Baroque.

Now that's a good game for translation fucking never, especially the PS1 version
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>>145622723
True, but people translate random shit all the time for giggles. It's why I wish I was more diligent about learning Japanese. I'd provide translations for so many random things, it's unreal.
>>
Any tips for an SMT4 newbie?
I decided to start with a gun build with 3 Dex, 1 agi(on-level), and 1 Luk but I'm at Ares right now and it seems really weak. I fused Fortuna who seems to suck forgot to register my max-level demons so I can't summon them to fuse better shit without an assload more grinding.

Should I just restart on a different build? This isn't very fun so far.
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>>145623696
>Fighting resist-phys boss
>this isn't very fun so far
Just wait until you get the 2-4 hit moves and enough luck to crit 25% of the time
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>>145623696
If you have trouble with him just come back later

Same goes with that dragon quest. He decimated my party early on with his area Zan attacks
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>>145624049
>>145624302
I guess I'll just come back then. Thanks.
>>
You should focus on Agi, Dex and Mag, with the occasional point into Luck. Most battles in IV will be resolved based on who gets the first hit, and you want that to be you as often as possible. Dex, you're probably aware deals with gun, but also physical skills. If you get a demon with Axel Claw, you want to learn it ASAP, as it will chew through enemies from start to end. Blight is even better, and even if you're going gun, you'll still want one of those two. I was magic-based and those two took me through about 90% of the game.

Finally, put points into magic, not only for defence, but also for spells. If you're going gun, you'll want to invest in some of the debuff/healing skills. Your demons will be doing most of the heavy lifting, so for bosses, you want to make sure they can do as much damage as possible, and once you start getting to the higher tiers (Fog Breath, Luster Candy, etc) that gets expensive.
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>>145617171
>TMS

Buy it second hand so you don't directly give them money.
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>>145625268
What's TMS?
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>>145625390
Tranny Masturbation Sessions
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>>145625702
Ah, gotcha. I already bought a 3DS for the series, if they think I'm getting a Weeoo for the series, they can fuck off.
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>>145618340
I'll probably get it soon. Are the problems with it the slow battle speed and the designs?
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>>145625860
>he hasn't bought a peeass 4 to play Tiny Masochist Satan
step it up senpai
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>Can you apply the penal code to demons?
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Hoy.
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Why do you hate him?
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>>145613404
Last time I played Nocturne I ended up fusing Black Frost with Fire Amp, Ice Amp, Prominence, and Glaciate all at the same time.

Then I just full diesel steamrolled everything, and got wiped out when I messed up Ahriman's scripted fight bullshit and lost like an hour of progress

and I just stopped right there for some reason, after wrecking everything else in the game
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>>145629690
Raidou is my favorite protag.
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>>145629690
Playing 2 now and I'm surprised how much roleplaying you can do during dialogue, a few unique boxes at least for each choice.
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>>145631054
Every time someone mentions how great Raidou 2 is, I get the urge to buy another copy so I don't have to open my Raiho box.
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>>145635736
>buying games to keep
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>>145635856
But muh display
(Vidya and figures are my room decor)
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>>145635736
I found a copy with the plush on Amazon for about $20. But when it arrived, it was just the game by itself. Which I was fine with, since I didn't own it, but I was disappointed. So I emailed them asking if there had been a mistake or what. They got back to me saying 'oh, whoops, our bad, we're selling just the game, not the box set' and refunded me $10. I still want a Jack Frost plush of some description, but every toy or figure I've seen of Jack costs a small fortune.

Some day...
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Maybe I've become extremely rusty, but Alioth was actually kinda challenging. Then again, it might also be because my RB playthrough is glass cannon Bunny with only a Pazuzu as back up.
I've just reached the 6th day - when do I get a chance to crack Holy Dance and Null or Repel Phys?
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Can you still get fusion accidents in demon fusion lite in smt IV? I want to know before I spend all this time and cant get a stronk yoshitsune
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>>145638992
Why do you want to get a fusion accident during battle? Just do it in normal fusion
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>>145639070
Because I'm trying to get Kannuki-Throw on him.
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>>145639161
>DLC skill

Hmm
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>>145640375
Its the best DX skill in the game. and I can't stand the guest designs so I wanted to put it on someone else anyway.
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>>145433440

>Can read Japanese
>Won't play SMT IV Final until you're all playing it anyway because I still need to get through II-IV

Well at least it'll be the right time to play it I guess, since everyone will be talking about it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkazX7U2PCw

What does Flynn say at the end? Something-something Tokyo has been entrusted to you and me?
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Could SMT 4 have been the best game if the battle graphics were Noctural tier?
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It has been months since I've been on /smtg/, has SMT4 Final been confirmed for Europe yet?
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>>145648175
no, I think you could say that about maybe Strange Journey.
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>>145648342
Ahahahahahahahahahaha!
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>>145629925
That fucking blows m8
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>>145616798
I played 20 hours of Nocturne before realizing it's the only Megaten I've played that I didn't like, so I stopped. There's too many other Megaten games to get hung up on one you don't like, hombre.
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>>145648175
No, it would have been if they gave us actual dungeons.
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>>145616798
Not liking a game is okay. I got about 70% of the way through Strange Journey before I stopped and said, hey, I'm not having any fun and the music is bad. Being a fan of something doesn't mean you have to slavishly like everything belonging to the franchise. That's being a moron fanbabby
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>>145650219
Thought so.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe3uXSdUK8A
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>>145655017
Cheer up, m8
It'll be announced any minte now!
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>>145657186
Fuck you Maya stop being so positive.
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>>145657232
ANY
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>>145657921
Don't.
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>>145657921
MINUTE
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>>145658020
NOW!
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>>145626048
pretty much, yeah. you can turn animations off at least which speeds things up a bit, but it's still not that great gameplay-wise. kept all the design blemishes of the majinten games while introducing a load of new ones.

i thought the story was pretty boring as well, but it gets a bit weird towards the end at least.
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>>145653271
elaborate
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>>145663258
There are no dungeons in IV is what he's saying
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>P5 brought back Psy element that was exclusive to Devil Summoner 1

Can they dig even deeper?
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>>145664652
They already have the 7 Deadly Sins from if...
>Majin Tensei style endings
>Persona materials are called forma
>A skill called Holy Dance or Multi Strike
>Government personnel threatening to nuke Japan
>Nemissa, Abel, Beldr, Jezebel or Belberith demons
>Freikugel
>Kuzunohas
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>>145664897
>Freikugel
What?
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>>145666201
>being this new
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>>145664652
Is there an independent Psy resistance or is it the same as the vulnerability to mental/emotional attacks?
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>>145667272
I'm asking about it being in P5, dummy
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>>145667369
He said dig deeper, not that its in the game.
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Got a bit of a problem here. Playing SMT II and I equipped a cursed weapon. That itself was fine, it was the Disc Blade which damages you every few steps. Problem is when I loaded back up my save today the curse effect was gone, the churches cant remove it, but I also cant unequip the item normally. Any advice? Am I screwed?
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>>145637827
That sucks to hear. I got mine off Amazon and I wanna say it was around $50 but I might've had something else on the order too.
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>>145668179
English patch? It's got weird glitches if you aren't playing in nip or Spanish. Maybe someone else will know what to do but I never encountered that specific problem because I always avoided equipping cursed weapons.
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>>145668179
Which system?
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>>145668445
Im using snes9x, the Aeon genesis translation
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>>145668569
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/564896-shin-megami-tensei/56196104
Not SMT 2 but this should be close enough

How is it by the way? I'm fresh into SMT and have half a dozen games lined up to play after Nocturne. I'm locked for TDE, but I wanna take a break from it before trying for the other endings.
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>>145668990
Yeah I found that too but it just says to load a prior save, which I don't have. I guess my only option would be to restart, but I'm far enough that it isn't really an option. I might just deal with this and focus on gun damage if I can't fix this.

As for how it is I'm enjoying it so far. It's pretty cool seeing where where some little references come from in later games, though its not really anything major. Compared to the first game I'm liking it because it doesn't seem to have any demon recolors, though I'm only about halfway through. The need for MAG to keep demons summoned is frustrating sometimes since I haven't really found a reliable way of maintaining it.
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>>145669674
Use cheats to replace the weapon then unequip
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>>145670157
I tried this as well but the only cheats I could find replaced inventory items not equipment.
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Finally playing Strange journey and i'm enjoying it a lot, just beat Asura and lubing my asshole for Eridanus at the moment.

What's the point of no return for this game? I really want to do the neutral ending.
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>>145671391
You'll see it coming, by which I mean the game outright asks you which route you want.
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>>145671391
Sector H
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>>145668990
>>145668339
>>145670157
Actually I just got it. Found a debug code, added the curse ailment to Aleph, then had it removed at a garage.
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>>145625860
I literally bought a WiiU just for TMS. Back when it was just SMTxFE
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>>145671391
Unless you're super far law or chaos you'll get a personality test at the start of Sector H and the results of that will lock your route
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>>145671391
>neutral ending
Good luck against one of the hardest final bosses in MegaTen.
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Quick someone post that spooky Stirner pic.
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>>145674419
Never mind.
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Is it just me, or has this place gotten a bit more boring than usual?

And I don't mean slow. It's always slow. I mean this place just doesn't have that zing it should have.
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>>145674790
I'd rather have a thread where people take it easy than a thread where people are always slinging shit at each other.
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>>145674790
We're in that weird point where we're all more than done with the last few games, but the new games are just slightly out of reach. So everyone's just milling around, shitposting like a mofo, waiting for the good word.

Incidentally, how's the OST for Final? Is it all new music, or is it half and half?
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>>145675336
Lots of reused music in-game but the new music is really good. Especially the Battle Theme and To Become God's Enemy
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>>145675675
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diBtGp2UZEk
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>>145675336
If the Amazon Apocalypse release date is true it's going to be a blast here with people trying to talk about the game and anons trying to spoil P5 all at once.
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>>145676696
September 20th is the date I've seen mentioned. But I live in Europe, so it'll be a minor miracle if it gets released here at all. I'm just glad I got my 3DS modded. If it gets released here, I'll buy it, but if not, well, it's not like they're missing out on a legit sale.
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>>145673975
Isn't that the exact same boss as law route, or does he get extra moves? and I thought judge zelenin was harder because of that fucking insta-wipe of the entire party
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>>145674790
It was way worse after the reveal of #FE and until SMT4 Final announcement.

I legit wonder what's going to happen if they won't announce any Megaten game that isn't Persona spin-off in 2017. They don't have anything on schedule after P5 release.
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>>145677563
They have EO3U
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>>145677686
>EO3U
I fukken wish
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>>145677563
I'm hoping for another Devil Survivor, myself. I'd give my right nipple for one set post-cataclysm Tokyo or between SMT 1&2. Just stop screwing around and give us one right in the heart of armageddon.
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>>145677686

I'm sure they do because there is no way Atlus won't reuse their updated EO engine for something.
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>>145677563
It would be great if they release a spiritual sequel to Catherine; an unusual game with a neat and complex story, and multiple branches.

I also wish they make a Raidou game in the time period of Soul Hackers.
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>>145677563
Yamai only being a producer on Final and the game originally just being an updated rerelease of SMT IV makes me pretty confident the bulk of the Maniax team is working on something else. I'm not going to get my hopes up for some big console game, but after 3 years of the SMT IV-verse it'll be refreshing to get something brand new.
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>>145678821
The way Yamai talked about their next project in Famitsu Our next venture will be a difficult one, and it may also be very long made me think they might be doing something for consoles.
I think there is still a small possibility of SJ 3DS happening.
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>>145677686
It'll probably be announced sometime after EOV comes out.
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https://twitter.com/KevinFrane/status/743119754861248512

Quantum Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner Vol.2 is coming out "sometime this year."
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http://personacentral.com/persona-5-combat-mechanics/

>negotiation is back
>Nuclear is back
>Telekinetic was added

Demons are still refereed to as Shadows, apparently. Thought they've always been the same thing.
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>>145685370
Demons are apparently forgotten personas or something in one of the translated negotiations.
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>Just got to Eridanus
>Start looking around
>I immediately hate this place
>fucking damage shit everywhere i walk
>My dude keeps falling asleep like a narcoleptic retard
>the demons i'm leveling to get their sources don't have any attack useful against the enemies in this area
>the enemies in general are asshole that don't want to negotiate EVER.
>whatever, i'll make some progress and when i find some place to come back i'll chill in another place for a while
>get stoned by a basilisk
>apparently that's game over for some reason
>lost over an hour of progress in this shithole
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>>145687456
Hope you have a decent demon party with the same alignment for the boss.
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>>145687620
Is it a hard boss?
No boss has been difficult so far, only the areas fucked me up.
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>>145687456
Everyone hates Eridanus. Everyone.
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>>145687765
You're at the point in the game where you're about to start meeting bosses that can fuck you up. You absolutely need a same alignment team that should ideally all have a fire attack for the boss of Eridanus.

>>145687810
I liked it until the warp/pitfall maze. Holy shit, the warp/pitfall maze.
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>>145688147
That's interesting
Always liked the bosses in this series and i still didn't have to do the buff/debuff/dekunda/dekaja race and i was getting worried.
If i can get thorugh this shitfest first of course
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At least Eridanus has the best music in the game.
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>>145688513
What you're messing with now is nothing compared to the teleporting zones. I spent way too long fucking with those.
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>>145691319
Let me guess
Teleports without any mark on the map telling you where each teleport goes

If that's the case imma go old school up in that bitch, PEN AND PAPER, TIME TO DRAW MAPS
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>>145691692
You should definitely do that, numbers and everything. It's not necessary in the first teleporting zone, but you'll easily know when you'll need to whip out the pen and paper
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Devil Summoner 3 when
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Hoy
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The long and painful journey ends here
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>>145699743
So is /smtg/ in the Law Ending right now?
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>>145693332
After Devil Survivor 3
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H-hoy
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>>145702648
Hey dude!
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How does this make you guys feel? Also, other Atlus games aren't there because they're counting the major presentations only.
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>>145706303
Final Fantasy XV is there twice.
Also why are people still talking about Fallout 4, that game came out months ago and it sucked.
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>>145706484
Don't ask me why FF is there twice, and Fallout is because of DLC probably. It sure did. Jesus fuck I have no faith in Bethesda to make good open world RPGs now.
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Hoy.
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Hey /smtg/, I'm from /feg/, I've been wanting to play SMT for awhile and now that SMTIV is on sale on eShop, I picked it up. It's downloading right now, what should I expect? I know nothing about the series besides that it has demons, and takes place in Japan. That's it
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>>145712360
Don't add points into STR, fuse your demons, use buffs, and leave the thread before you get spoiled.
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>>145712360
Tips and tricks pastebin in the OP.
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>>145712360
demons
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>>145712360
A good turn based battle system and combining demons with skills together to create a better demon like when you pass on skills to children in FE. Nice atmosphere and 3rd person exploration too.
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>>145712360
Don't listen to >>145712548 if only because that has spoilers. Part of the magic of that game specifically comes from playing blind.
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>>145712749
Why do we even have a tips and tricks pastebin then.
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>>145712871
Some people don't give a shit.
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Samarecarm
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>>145716472
Its dead senpai
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>>145717765
Not true, I'm here
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>>145717935
Prove it.
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>>145718174
>>
smtXkirby
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>>145719081
SMT 3
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>>145706756
Bethesda games have been hit and miss, Skyrim was good, FO3 and Oblivion were just as bad as FO4 The real FO4 made by Obsidian when? We got the real FO3 in New Vegas
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>>145719081
DDS basically
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>>145719390
what?
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>>145721251
You gotta swallow stuff to change powers
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>>145721491
oh... it would be more fitting for it to be digital devil saga
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>>145722762
there is no other way to poyo
>>
I've been playing Devil Survivor 2 recently and is it just me or are demons incredibly shafted in this game.

It's nearly the end and I still have no idea where they come from besides the fact that Alcor made the summoning app. It's like they don't have a role in the story at all but since it's SMT it's gotta have demons.
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>>145722938
That's why DeSu2 is trash
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>every game gets a release date but Final

Why
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>>145722938
Fumi explains it right before the route split something about magnetite giving form to what's recorded on akashic records about them.
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Which demon would you do, /smtg/?
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Warriors of pop star
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>>145724534
I DON'T WANNA TRY TO FIGHT
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What is your absolute favorite demon?
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>All 3 Kaneko Art works were going for $95 on ebay
>put down a bid
>they cancel the auction

FUCK

i will never see a deal like that again, atleast the place selling it is a couple hours from my house
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>>145724764
Borb
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>>145726514
The one inside us
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>>145726514
humans the only real demons
t. Strange Journey
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>>145637827
>tfw you bought a lot on eBay of all PS2 SMT and got Raiho set after for like $25
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>>145729828
Before anyone asks, I got it in like 11 or 12.
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>>145675336
>based ikebukuro them in SMT IV
>there is fuck all to actually do there
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>>145687456
>was on my second playthrough of Strange Journey
>Decided to map every Sector Completely
Fuck Eridanus.
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goodnight smtg
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>>145730979
goodnite fiendo
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I PITY YOU
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Oh great, a Hunter.
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NO MORE GAMES
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>>145732684
Bring more macca next time goyim
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I had a dream about getting fucked by a male Belphegor.
I'm a straight male.
What do I do with this information?
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>>145733818
Go fuck yourself
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>>145733818
As opposed to being fucked by a female Belphegor?
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>>145427497
It appears to be a touhou
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>>145733818
You've got a scat fetish, m80
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>>145734190
At least then it wouldn't be gay.
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>>145706303
>SMTIV:A missing
>P5 missing
???
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>>145736602
Read the fine text
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>>145700245
White
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>Feel like playing Strange Journey again.
>Go to find where I left the .sav file.
>It got accidentally deleted at some point.
>Don't even have the DS rom anymore.
So this is karma for me not buying the game right?
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>>145733818
did you give him a blumpkin
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>>145739904
Well logically, think about it, you're much more likely to lose the save when it's an abstract file separate from the abstract game file, as opposed to when the two are stored together on a physical medium.
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>>145740958
They were both originally stored on a flashcart, but I needed space so I copied them to my computer.

I know it's entirely my fault, but it still sucks.
Karma is a bitch.
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>>145674790
Maybe there are even fewer people around? Personally speaking, I was here almost everyday from November till February but I'm way too busy this last months.

>>145675024
Also, this. Slow and comfy /smtg/ is best /smtg/.
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>>145739904
>not having SMT:SJ physically
And being a Yuropoor isn't even an excuse since the DS is region-free.
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I think people have finals and it is/was E3.
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>>145741948
>E3
Maybe it was just me, but I think I'm getting too old for these shit games. Almost every new game they showed, barring the Last Guardian, looked the same shit to me.

I'm just happy that were getting IV Final this year. And maybe even physically in Europe.
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>>145742219
I just read whatever happens after the fact. I don't have the energy to care when I'm always a gen behind.
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>>145743246
I do pretty much the same. Heck, I don't even have a PS4/One/Wii U. I'm still plowing through my PS3's gigantic backlog along with my Vita's and 3DS's backlogs.
And even after I finish my PS3 backlog, I'm more interested in replacing my broken PS2 and replay my favorite PS2 games instead of buying a new flashy paperweight.
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>>145743418
I just got a PS3 this year. I'm not really feeling games right now, unfortunately. As long as it doesn't last years like it has in the past, I guess it's fine.

I have a N3DS and a Vita, that's as current as I get. One was a gift, and the other I bought with reward points.
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>>145675336

>We're in that weird point where we're all more than done with the last few games

Man, I've finished SMT 1 and that's it, I've still got quite a few games in the franchise I can play. Though at the moment I'm just focusing on II-IV Final and eventually SJ, if, and some others probably.
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>>145743556
So what are you playing in each?

>PS3
ICO & Shadow of the Colossus, Asura's Wrath

>Vita
Toukiden 2, SAO HF

>3DS
SMT DeSu 2 BR, Rune Factory 4
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>>145743739
Is there any reason you are playing IV before SJ? Just asking, when I get into long series (LoZ, Metroid, Metal Gear) I usually play the games in the order they got released.
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>>145744093

>I usually play the games in the order they got released.

Same here. I was just concentrating on the main series right now, partially because I'm taking a JRPG break after I'm finished with SMT (eh, or after I finish SMT and Trails) because I've played 20ish JRPGs in the last year and a half and I'm getting a bit tired of them. Though I am still debating about playing Strange Journey sometime before IV anyway since it sounds interesting. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
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>>145743808
>PS3
Neptunia
might start Thief

>Vita
nothing
waiting for Grand Kingdom

Like I said, I'm in a rut. I re-downloaded Syberia 2 but I dunno if I can be bothered to get around to playing it. If I do, I'll probably re-download DE Invisible War.

I started some other games, but I don't think I've touched them in over a month.

>>145744093
>I usually play the games in the order they got released.

He gets it.
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>>145744425
Just play SJ before 4. Or concurrently with your 3DS games. I feel like you're trying to beat Finals English release.
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>>145744645

>I feel like you're trying to beat Finals English release.

Nah, I don't even care about it since I can into Nip and plan to play the Japanese version anyway. Though at the rate I'm going I'll be playing it around the same time everyone else is.
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>>145744537
Eh, it happens to me sometimes too. And occasionally I have an anime fever and start watching a bunch of anime and forget about the games I'm playing. It's just a matter of finding a game that really grabs you in.
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>>145744821
Anime takes too long, so I just binge read manga. Trying to stick to finished series, for probably obvious reasons. Bartender ending fucking when scanlators. I swear I've been reading this shit almost 10 years.

My main problem with games is I get burnt out by the time I get to the end. My worst/best example probably being Wind Waker when you gotta get the Triforce pieces. To be fair, I didn't have internet access at that time. Or if I did, it was probably dial up.

>>145744746
>I can into Nip

Play everything.
I'm probably going to bed, so I'll reply to whatever tomorrow.
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>>145745256

>Play everything.

Maybe eventually. Probably not Devil Summoner. The concept sounds great, a detective with demons, but I've heard that the gameplay is horrid.
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>>145744821
While i wait for apocalypse i'll buy the new kirby game and use new methods to slaughter innocent little critters.
Also because i heard the game is one of the best kirbys so far
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>>145745570

I need to get back to the Kirby series. I've played the first one and half of the first NES title. Fortunately it won't take me as long to get through the entire Kirby series as most JRPG series.
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>>145745782

Oh wait, I played Kirby 64 when it was new, but it's been so long I remember very little. Plus, I never unlocked the real final world.
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>>145745854
So how surprised were you when zero two appeared.
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>>145745975

>Plus, I never unlocked the real final world.
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>>145746130
Sorry i did not sleep well and the never passed unnoticed.
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>>145745570
I just bought the game with the amiibo this monday. Having a blast with it. It's a lot more fun than Triple Deluxe. The robot sections are fun as fuck with all those overpowered powers.

>>145745782
You should. They're really solid platformers. And personally speaking, a lot better than Super Mario.
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8^O

IVF soon(TM)
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Threadly reminder that Garu is just a meme Zan.
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Hoy.
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>>145752408
Hoy.
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Hey /smtg/, Skype Group.
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>>145684951
Finally.
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>>145756569
Why not just join the discord group?
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>>145756569
>>145757742
What about the /smtg/ suicide pact group?
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GREEN GHOST ASS
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>>145757742
i-i didnt even know we had one
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>>145745485
>but I've heard that the gameplay is horrid.
they lied
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>>145759050
I'd join

>>145759403
we don't
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>>145759050
I already rolled suicide though.
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>>145762932
I really like Lilian's design. Not enough to make her my demonfu though.
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>>145745485
It's just people parroting a hg101 article written by someone who never actually played the game
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>>145765067
This, I think they got about 45 minutes into the game. HG101 is written by people who don't know jack shit 50% of the time. It's pretty great if you loved Soul Hackers,.
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>>145765351
The only thing that kinda sucked about DS1 is the resident evil-like save system with limited items, and even then that could be seen as a positive since it enhances the survival aspect of the game which is something the most recent releases removed entirely.
Still, the psp version has unlimited saves so that's fixed.
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>>145765994
>resident evil-like save system
Nigga what, you just go back to the Kuzunoha office to save, that item is for saving in dungeons
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Did anyone figure out how to get into the bonus PSP dungeon in DebiSama?
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>>145766418
Yeah, you have to go to the bottom of the sewers I believe. Then you can fight Hokuto and Nanto Seikun, and the Zeed bosses in the PSP version.
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>>145766418
Also, it's the best place in the game for grinding because you can find Chiyou there. Pretty necessary if you want to get Kyouji's ultimate weapon, or use high-tier Tyrant demons.
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>>145766132
Yeah I know, that's why I said "like" instead of being exactly the same, that's the closest example I could think of
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>>145767173
I still have no idea what you're saying, saving in the Saturn version is absolutely not limited.
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>>145766561
>>145766787
Gracias.
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Hey guys. I'm playing nocturne on PCSX2, and none of my passive skills, e.g. victory cry, pierce, voids etc. are working on any of my members. Has anyone else ran into this problem or is it just me?
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>>145768130
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what's the best way to replay the ps2 games? Should I play them on pcsx2 or buy them on the US psn? Either way is fine for me, I just want to know where they run best
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>>145769002
>I just want to know where they run best
PCSX2. PSN versions have some audio sync issues during cutscenes. Plus, PCSX2 has widescreen and up-scaling. Looks a lot better.
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So that game Tadashi Satomi made with FuRyu called Caligula is gonna be published by Atlus in the west next spring. PSN only though, no physical.

I wonder if there will be a couple in-game named after himself and Tamaki.
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>still no hack to replace Dante with Raidou in the US version of Nocturne
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>>145765067
>>145765351

Guess I could give it a shot then.
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>>145771609

I'm surprised no one's just ripped the English script and stuck it in the Raidou edition, and just re-translated everything that has to do with Raidou.
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>>145769002
>>145769257
Play the PSN versions, forcing 4:3 games into widescreen is literally disgusting, and only the DDS games have audio-sync issues on PSN.
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>>145774848
It's a widescreen hack, it's not just stretched out, you nigger.

Buy the PSN versions to support Atlus, but play them on PC.
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I wanna be next to you
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>>145776573

I wanna be next to you too, but our families would never allow it.
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>>145775247
That doesn't make it less of a travesty.
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>>145776726
How dangerous can it be?
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>>145769002
Buy a PS2 and the games. Emulation a shit.
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HOY
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>>145778702
YOH
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What are some good skills for Asherah?
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>>145769257
>>145774848
I thought the audio de-sync was only in the european psn version, is it also in the US one?
Also, I thought the games had glitches regarding effects, shadows etc. on pcsx. Is it not the case anymore? If not, I'll just play them there.
I have a ps2 and the games but hooking it up to my current tv is impossible (no rgb) and I don't really have the space nor the patience to hook up other consoles
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>>145585510
The original's better
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>>145538721
>>145538582
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>>145782742
http://wiki.pcsx2.net/index.php/Shin_Megami_Tensei:_Nocturne

>Status: Active
>Type: Minor
>Description: Glitch with shadows of the characters
>Workaround: Problems with shadows can be fixed by turning on Alpha hack in GSdx plugin and turning off all CRC hacks by adding the line "CrcHacksExclusions=all" to inis/GSdx.ini file. This, however, will make NPCs, some objects and shadows cast by object visible through walls, so it's either one or the other. Software Mode runs without either of problems.
As of r5819, the shadow has been removed from the main character in Hardware rendering mode. Switch to software mode to display the shadow on the main character again.

However, r5819 is a 2 year old build. Newer versions might perform better and you should get the latest git version, anyway.
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>>145614215

Yeah, this basically. I enjoyed Persona 1, and I enjoyed Persona 2: IS. Despite the gameplay improvements, I actually prefer Persona 1 as far as gameplay goes, but IS had likable characters and an interesting story. Maya is one of the best characters in the series, probably the best.

I had a lot of trouble getting into Eternal Punishment though. It's mostly because the plot was basically the selling point of IS, and EP's not much better when it comes to gameplay. The story is pretty boring for most of the game though. It's probably because I played IS first and already pretty much knew what was going on with the New World Order, I knew who was behind it and what the ultimate end point was, and after the ending of IS I was eager to get back to where I left off from there, but that doesn't happen until the very end of the game. Also, EP feels kind of forced, the ending of IS actually felt pretty good, and I usually can't stand memory erasure endings

And they ruined Maya by making her silent, that's another black mark on EP.
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I'm honestly not trying to start any shit here, but do you guys really enjoy demon negotiations as a gameplay aspect?
They appear to be almost entirely random, so they don't rely on skill or strategy at all. You're just throwing away macca, items, HP, MP for the off-chance that a demon will join you. Honestly, I'd prefer if they put in something like pokeballs instead. Lower the demon's HP and throw an object at them that adds it to your party.

I fucking love SMT, but demon negotiations really put me off of every game that incorporates it.
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>>145538487

Yeah, hopefully it's actually good. 3 and 4 disappointed me quite a bit and murdered my interest for Persona 5, so I think I'll wait a bit before I play it. At least I can pirate the PS3 version and see if I'll like it or not.
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>>145786104

I've only played SMT 1 so far, so I don't know if they're any different in later games, but to be honest I do prefer the way they're handled in the Persona series more. There's a bit of randomness to them, sometimes saying one thing will make a demon happy and then saying it again will piss them off and the next time it'll scare them, but it doesn't require wasting Macca/items/HP/MAG, so it's nicer.
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BEHOLD
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>>145786104
>but do you guys really enjoy demon negotiations as a gameplay aspect?
It's one of my favorite things about SMT. Provides an extra chance to roleplay and the text that goes along with it can be pretty funny.
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>>145786104
Negotiation is not only important to recruit demons, though. It is also useful when you want to acquire a little bit of extra magnetite or money (well, I guess that is not that important in Strange Journey or 4, but was a life saver in SMT1 and useful a couple times in SMT2 and Nocturne). You can also try to use it to drive away some dangerous demons out of your path if you are not well suited to face them..

That said, I do wish it was less random. And I also wish it could be done with bosses, even if just for flavor, to gain a surprise attack or to get them to surrender instead of killing them.
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I get the randomness in deciding to join you or not because most demons are untrustworthy or evil in their lore. It could be tweaked though, like if you're recruiting a life goddess or other good natured demon they should join you after you give them offerings no matter what.
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>>145786104
>but do you guys really enjoy demon negotiations as a gameplay aspect?
Yes.

>They appear to be almost entirely random, so they don't rely on skill or strategy at all.
>Honestly, I'd prefer if they put in something like pokeballs instead
Why? Pokeballs are random as fuck too and require no skills, you only lower the HP and hope for a generous RNG, IIRC. And like the other guy said, I prefer hearing some nice conversations instead of watching a ball shaking and hoping that it doesn't explode.
I really don't get why quite a few people complain about the randomness of negotiations. Have you tried negotiating with humans in real life? It's pretty random too, sometimes they're content as fuck and help you for free and sometimes they're in a bad mood and try to kill you, that's just human nature.


>I fucking love SMT, but demon negotiations really put me off of every game that incorporates it.
How can you "fucking love" the series when you hate a really big aspect of it to the extent that it puts you off from the games?
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>>145745782
>>145745854
The only Kirby game I was really in to was GB Dream Land. It was one of the first games I beat, if not the first.

A friend had 64, but we only played the mini games. I got that Wii collection, so I should play them. But I should play a lot of things. Do a lot of things.... ugh.
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>>145747061
go big or go home senpai
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>>145782742
I think Euro Nocturne bugged out at the end. Two anons were talking about it.
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>>145785609
I hate silent Maya, and I hate half of the game is just the exact same shit you just did.

>>145786104
Negotiation is the best, because I love their personalities.
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>>145789495
Yup.
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>>145706303
Sad that Dead Rising 4 got so little attention, but also glad because Zelda dominated the event.
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>>145733818
Visit a doctor.

You might have been impregnated.
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>>145759050
Only if it is for the purpose of summoning an elder demon who shall rule over the world.

/r9k/'s shit doesn't belong in /smtg/'s World of STRENGTH.
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>>145492068
I met the old man in Ginza and my alignment changed to Neutral, now I can summon law and chaos demons again. Thank you game.
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>>145793173
Now I just realized that the fiend encounters are similar to the encounter of that rape monster from Yume Nikki in your pic.

SMT x Yume Nikki when? We at least need more crossover pictures.
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>>145788387
>Why? Pokeballs are random as fuck too and require no skills, you only lower the HP and hope for a generous RNG
Atleast it's more forgiving. Throw another ball, give them a status effect to improve your chances etc. And apart from Legendary pokemon, they're not that hard to catch generally. Negotiations seem to be entirely random and you lose tons of macca, items, HP and MP and the demons still fuck off without joining you.

>How can you "fucking love" the series when you hate a really big aspect of it to the extent that it puts you off from the games?
I love the darker atmosphere, the stories, the gameplay. It's a JRPG series with its very own flavour that nothing else can copy, it's amazing. I love recruiting an army of demons and fusing them into even stronger demons, I love taking my time to create the best demons with the best movesets. The ONLY aspect I don't like is the fact that in order to do that I have to roll the dice twenty times and hope to god one of those pesky demons join me so I can enjoy the fusion and customization.

It's just seems an unnecessarily convoluted process for recruiting party members, yet it is absolutely necessary if you want to progress.
I will admit that I like the little conversations. I just wish they weren't seemingly randomized.
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What kind of weapon are these Onis using?
A Naginata or a club?
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>>145769002
If you have a phat ps3 you can play them directly.
Thats how I played all of mine and never had any issues.
Just make sure that if you play DDS 1 in one form DDS2 will be in that same form, because the save file from a completed DDS1 played with the disc won't transfer to a DDS2 bought from psn.
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>>145794493
So wait, if I play both on PSN, it will transfer?
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>>145794837
It should, some EU PSN users had trouble transferring the save file but it doesn't really happen with the US version.
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>>145786104
How did Personas in 3/4? Some random cards at the end of battle right?
Every criticism you made of demon negotiation is worse when it comes to pokeballs(no strategy, RNG)
Raidou had a cool system where you could negotiate or hit them with there weakness and then "catch them" if I remember correctly.
All in all I really like demon negotiation and I honestly don't see a better alternative.
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>>145793963

A clubinata.
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>>145795891
>Every criticism you made of demon negotiation is worse when it comes to pokeballs(no strategy, RNG)
Not him, but the pokeball system does have strategy. You have to weaken the enemy first (make sure you don't actually kill them), inflict a status condition on them, and then throw the balls. 8/10, you catch them. With demon negotiations it's purely random and you throw away tons of resources. Now I don't dislike negotiations but I do feel that it could do with some tweaking. Do away with the randomness and put in some actual strategy. Give each demon or demon group a certain strategy. Some love macca but hate items. Some like you for having skills they're immune to, whilst some respect you for having the skills that they're weak against. As it stands now I believe the system is way too random whilst with a few tweaks it could actually make sense
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>>145797070
For your average encounter maybe, but catching legendaries is honestly what made me say that the no strategy and RNG is worse. And yeah demon negotiation in P1 and 2 I think weren't RNG at all but based off of the demons personality, but even then you had people complaining that it was dull. Persona 5 has demon negotiation so I guess we should wait and see how they handle that, maybe they down the RNG factor or just have good writing for the conversations.
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>>145786104
Play Strange Journey. Almost no randomness
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>>145797736
The P5 website say the 'negotiation' it's about reminding shadows that they are actually personas or something, I highly doubt it will be random.
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are they ever going to release any fan translation? Even devil children would be fine at this point
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>>145802510
shut up esl scum
what have you done for the community
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>>145802605
I scanned a shitload of covers, manuals, ripped soundtracks etc. from my collection but I doubt it counts for much
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>>145802797
thanks to you i feel like shit
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>>145803301
it's ok gideon, I'm sure not everybody hates you
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It's funny how a single man and his bug ridden translation patches control the whole EOP megaten community
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>>145608620
Only if you're not prepared. Still has my favorite atmosphere of any SMT final battle, though. Sheer despair.
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>>145773892
Probably because PS2 hacking is a bitch and a half, especially of an Atlus game. (Believe me, I know.)
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>>145806165
TGE
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ONE
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>>145808761
TWO
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>>145808761
>>145808975
NINE
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>>145809242
I DECLARE A HOLY WAR
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>>145809242
cirno will never be real and I will never fuck her, escapism and alcoholism are all that's left for me
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>>145808761
MORE
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>>145809906
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>>145810304
stop using my goddess you filthy piece of garbage
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>>145813092
Sorry dude...
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Is the PS3 version of Nocturne worth buying? I heard it has a lot of issues and glitches.
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>>145814961
I didn't find any issue/glitch until the final boss. The game just glitches after you defeat it.
This is a known glitch in the European version and we've discussed it here a few times before.
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>>145816067
Why would they change anything between the PS3 NA/Euro versions when the whole analog NTSC/PAL issues aren't present when it comes to PS3.
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>>145817372
are you serious or being sarcasticly angry
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>>145817760
I'm serious. There's no reason that a European PS3 wouldn't be able to just run the North American PS3 release, but I'm assuming there are glitches present exclusively in the European version because they ported the PAL Ghostlight version instead for some reason.
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>There was exactly 666 replies in this general.
>This comment just broke it.
Playing through Desu 1 Overclocked on Day 5, a bit peeved I got Keisuke killed due to a beginner's mistake when I could have easily beaten Yama.
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NOT ENOUGH
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>Trying to get Masakado's armor in Flooded Tokyo
This game officially stops being fun right here. Fuck this dude's armor I'm gonna finish this.
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>>145822753
I loved Desu 1, which ending are you going for?
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Can anyone give me a link to the artist behind this art of Eriko?
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>>145825031
http://drawr.net/user.php?id=5690
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>>145824464
bored of the 65 grind, i assume
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>>145825412
What?
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>>145825407
Thank you so much!
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>>145825031
>>145825582
best personer
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>>145825407
Hey uh, how do I save things from on here?
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>>145826676
Right clicking should work like normal. Maybe make an account if it doesn't?
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>>145825506
To get the Chaos/Law armors you have to grind to level 65 before the flood.
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>>145828375
Oh.
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>>145825001
Lawful most likely.
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>>145820557
wow, is there more?
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it's late go to bed
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>>145810204
Dude should be looking grouchy, not happy.

Ain't nothin' to be happy about after what's he's been through.
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>>145773892
Ask Gideon Zhi to do it. With luck, he'll have it done within the next 20 years!
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>>145785609
EP was the first SMT game I played, but finally getting to play IS made me like it more. Getting to see the other side of things provided a lot of context, and seeing Sudou go from a a powerful leader to a batshit murderer with a bag on his head was great.
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I feel like P2 would be even better if the dungeons were in first person as many of them in both games seem too easy in third person.
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>>145835808
You give Gideon too much credit.
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Hoy.
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hoyasuminasai
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>>145839450
What is the oldest 'ongoing' translation on his books right now anyway? I swear he's had Majin Tensei on there since 2002. Some of those have to at least have been on there for a decade or more.
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>>145814961
>>145816067
>>145820852
>>145817372
I'm playing through Nocturne on my PS3 now. I have a European PS3 and used a US PSN account to download it.

Honestly, it's riddled with bugs. Often when I start the game up and get into a battle the game just freezes, same with cutscenes. I sometimes have to reset the game about 10 times before I can actually battle. But once it doesn't freeze during battle, it won't freeze for the entirety of the playing session.
It's extremely annoying, but it's still playable and enjoyable if you have the patience to reset the game until it actually works.
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>>145843264
Just had a quick look. If... hasn't seen an update in about two years. Some of the games he has listed haven't seen updates at all. Others have been updated, but not since about 2006/7.
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>>145843331
I bought a digital copy on the spic PSN and the only major bug I have noticed from the start to the last dungeon entrance is a terrible slow down in the fusion animation.
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>>145843264
There is way too many to click through.
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Hoy.
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>Dual Audio
>people expecting it from Atlus
I'll never understand the memery that was P5 hype.
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>>145848629

As much as some people care about it, I don't know why they learn Japanese. I mean, not everyone should or needs to learn Japanese, but with the way some people act like they can't live without hearing "Perusona!" in their games, they really should consider studying.
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>>145848629
They will publish Caligula with Jap audio only so hopefully smaller titles won't have to suffer from bad dubs.
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>>145687456
>>145687810
I like Eridanus.
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>>145848808
but they say it in jap tho wont they

perusouna
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>>145848808
i just realized my post is basically what you already said im going the fuck to bed
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>>145849581

G'night, Anon.
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Who would be the National Defense Divinities for America?
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>>145852145
Coyote and John Henry would need to be in there somewhere.
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>>145853167
Columbia is a good one too
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>>145825031
>>145825582
Best Persona girl.

>>145826028
My nigga.
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After Apocalypse what will be next?
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Let's talk about mythology and legends of the places we live in

I'd like a Tarantasio in smt: it was a legend of a dragon that terrorized the people of Lodi here in italy.
Tarantasio would eat children, destroy boats and his breath made people suffer a strange illness called Febbre gialla (literally yellow fever, not that kind of yellow fever though)
It seems he was born of the putrified remains of a lord and the dragon was later slain by saint cristopher.

I always though he was cool, do you guys have some obscure mythology in your country you'd like to see in smt?
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>>145856736
our country is still young in comparison to other places so we ofter have creatures or myths based on the colonial age (~1800) or urban myths.

her I found something Interesting called Alicanto. It's basically a bird that feeds from precious minerals such as silver or gold. it acts as a judge for miners because if the Alicanto finds a miner of good will he will help him to find his mine filledw ith valuable rocks. now if the bird realizes that the person is guiding is a greedy soul the bird will make him get lost so he can never return to his home.
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>>145856736
Nothing particularly obscure, but I would like to see skinwalkers and kokopelli make their way into SMT somehow. Kokopelli is the flute player everyone sees on stuff when they come to New Mexico and Arizona. He's supposed to distribute children he carries on his back to women, and he uses his flute to bring in spring and rain. He's also supposed to have a huge dick hanging out, which is perfect for SMT.
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>>145857489
Hee Hoy
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>>145859728
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Why wasn't there a Susano'O in Nocturne?
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>>145861137
Why wasn't there a Daisoujou in IV?
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>>145861479
There isn't?
Shoot
I was about to get a 3DS and start up on IV, but if there's no Daisoujo, then I don't think that semen slurping game is right for me.
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>>145848808
They're lazy fucks.
But it's true that the Jap voice actors are miles better, not surprising considering how big the industry is over there. So I can understand them wanting to hear better acting.
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Hope there's a game where it tears Neutral apart.

They show the bad sides of Law and Chaos almost all the time, why not Neutral?
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>>145865790
SMT 4 Apocalypse's Anarchy route is that. The result: Literally everyone dies.

Also, aren't The White essentially a shade (hue) of Neutral, anyway?
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>>145866185
Well, i hope they continue to have The White show up in future games.
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>>145865790
Neutral is always going to be the most fun since you get demons from both sides to kick the asses of both sides.
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>>145866185
They are, also Jack's Squad in SJ was fairly negative. But I don't think that's what he means. Generally games will try their hardest to shit on law and chaos without much positive stuff to counteract it. The stuff shitting on neutral feels like an afterthought compared to the neutral routes that make it seem like the bee's knees. I think Atlus should consider explicitly showing more long term consequences for regular old neutral like they did with IV's law route to help counteract things a bit more because long term decay seems to be the big downside to going neutral in most games. Though I guess that would reduce chances of sequel bait or something.

t. Neuter
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>>145866789
So, you don't care about the ideals of Neutrality and just want to destroy both sides for kicks?

>>145866797
>Generally games will try their hardest to shit on law and chaos without much positive stuff to counteract it. The stuff shitting on neutral feels like an afterthought compared to the neutral routes that make it seem like the bee's knees

Yeah, that's what i mean.
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>>145867298
>So, you don't care about the ideals of Neutrality and just want to destroy both sides for kicks?
Well, it is fun and the higher ups in both sides deserve destruction anyway.
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>>145866797
Agreed. Didn't Atlus say that the Neutral ending of SJ essentially sets up the happening of SMT 4?

There are also DS' Desperate Escape (Fuck everything, I'm going home), which ignores the overall conflict (until the 8th day). A sort of continuation of a Silent Revolution ending would certainly interesting, showing humans/governments abusing the loving fuck out of demons would be interesting in my eyes.

>>145867298
Well, the only times where Law and Chaos are handled relatively even-handed are the Devil Survivor endings. I wish that this could happen more often, so I can actually chose an alternative with reasonable pros and cons, instead of defaulting to an ending where humanity doesn't get fucked in the ass.
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>>145866185
>Literally everyone dies.
Yes, and? You create a new, better humanity. I'm also pretty sure that the souls get recycled, so only the sacrifice(s) (have forgotten if it was just one or everyone of your friends except the Megami) die for real in the sense that they are universe material.

>>145866797
>>145867298
Final's neutral routes are really shit (like every other route in that game) even though they probably didn't intend it for the Friendship is Magic route.
The Great Will is literally worse than YHVH but nobody gives a fuck because it's just established as good for no reason, all the arguments thrown against YHVH somehow don't hold true for the Great Will. YHVH planning to recreate humanity after winning the boss fight because they rebelled is extremely evil but Danu doing literally the same thing (after Nozomi's speech about how Dagda must accept that 774 didn't choose him because of the holiness of free will) and to her own son is A-OK. And Nozomi calls you a hypocrite, if you go Dagda.. Moon people felt at least somewhat uncomfortable about what Danu did.
The story of the game is hilariously bad.
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>>145868358
>Didn't Atlus say that the Neutral ending of SJ essentially sets up the happening of SMT 4?
The opposite actually. I was talking more about the SMT I -> II jump and neutral fuck ups being the premise behind Tokyo's situation.

>>145868475
I feel like both routes were a (very poor) attempt at glorifying neutral again. IV's original neutral was better about it if you ask me.
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>>145868475
>Moon people felt at least somewhat uncomfortable about what Danu did

Really? What'd they say?
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>>145868724
>The opposite actually. I was talking more about the SMT I -> II jump and neutral fuck ups being the premise behind Tokyo's situation.

Oh okay, thanks. Could have sworn someone mentioned that.

>>145868475
What exactly did Danu do to get that kind of reaction. Doesn't she just want to find a home for fairies and shit? Yuropoor here, hence my cluelessness.
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>>145868979
>What exactly did Danu do to get that kind of reaction.
I reckon he's talking about how she just straight up births a new Dagda that's more compliant with her ideals on that route to take the original Dagda's place.
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>>145869140
>she just straight up births a new Dagda that's more compliant with her ideals on that route to take the original Dagda's place.

What in the fucking fuck.
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>>145869330
IVF's plot is really bad.
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>>145869140
Seriously? Are you talking about a completely new Dagda, or essentially a beaten, now brainwashed old Dagda?
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>>145869619
If I remember right completely new after you beat the shit out of the old one.
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>>145869793
I'm asking because I kinda fail to see how the former is making her exactly like YHVH or the Great Will, if the that Dagda is completely new demon. If anything, YHVH and Dagda are relatively closer, at least when it comes to "destroy everything and start anew", methinks.
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>>145870182
What he means is YHVH's choice to destroy and recreate humanity in his image after it rebelled against him is fundamentally no different from Danu's response to Dagda when he chose to rebel against her power of friendship route. The only reason she doesn't get portrayed badly is because she's doing it to demons while YHVH does it to humans.
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>>145869793
Before, Old Dagda expresses his disgust for his "new self".

>>145870182
YHVH would also just make a new humanity, I don't think he'd bother with anyone living and just outright kill them. Great Will is a little different since even though it seems to have more power than any god or human, it lets you do the dirty work of killing YHVH for it. I mean I wouldn't mind if it stayed an abstract entity, but it has pretty much created humans and gods.
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That reminds me.

How did Asahi come back to life?
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>>145870614
Dagda revives her because Shesha was holding onto her soul or some shit so it was still possible to save her.
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>>145870887
Fucking really?

Shouldn't dead people stay dead in SMT?

I mean, yeah it's possible to revive yourself by a demon using recarm or something but, come on.

Friends and loved ones stay dead, like in the older games.
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>>145871253
I share that opinion, especially since she's not a Megami to Tensei in that instance, but the writers of IVF didn't care I guess.

I always looked at recarm and junk as helping the unconscious and not the dead, though that probably isn't actually the case.
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>>145870506
Just asking, because I think it depends who the aggressor is. If it is you and Danu deciding that Dagda needs to die and just off him; yeah I definitely agree with you. But I got the initial impression that Dagda started the fight by throwing a shitfit because you happened to disagree with his solution, and you went like "Woops, we need a new ally", causing Dana to pop out a new one. In which case, I would politely disagree with your opinion.

Although at this point of the discussion, I probably need to wait for the game to actually come out here to see the difference.
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>>145871550
Who were the writers, anyways?

SMT games don't have a great story, but, whoever these guys are, they really dropped the ball here.
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>>145871253
Revivals have been a thing since SMT I with the heroine and law hero
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>>145873056
Heroine reincarnated, she wasn't revived.
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>>145873056
Heroine was reincarnated.
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Time for new bread.
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>>145873759
Not so fast.
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>>145873837
Full Hoy Ahead.
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>>145874071
We're not even on page 10.
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BEHOLD MY DEMONS!
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>>145874183
MOST UNLUCKY FOR YOU!
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>>145868824
http://echo.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/handygrpg/1460616219/
From 776 on.

>>145868979
>Yuropoor here, hence my cluelessness.
I'm a yuro too.
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>>145874503
Hoyposters not welcome. :^)
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