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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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>SMTIV Final/SMTIV Apocalypse information
http://pastebin.com/Xmjsuv0D

Participate in the new /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>MTII translation project
http://www.dmanufacture.com/t-dds2.php

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/kmMsiz1d

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>SMT If... Tips & Tricks:
http://pastebin.com/KiwVr9Vy

>Previous thread
>>145414114
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Mañana.
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Play Debisama
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How are equipped weapons in IVF?

I found those with instant kill effect useful in my no demon whisper run in IV.

But the damage they did was sorta poor.
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Lawfags a shit. Neuterers and Whitefags even shittier.
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Why the fuck is map of SMT IV so retarded? Do they expect everyone to know layout of Tokyo? How hard is it to get fucking anywhere is ruining the game for me.
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>>145875423
I think usually NPCs will give you some direction if you can find the right one.
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>>145875423
The map isn't retarded in itself. It just wasn't designed for people outside of Japan. Get a real map of Tokyo prefectures are you're golden.
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Hoy.
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>>145875364
I'd go chaos for Walter.
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Tell me /smtg/, what are your hopes for IV Final?
And for the hypothetical SMT V?
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>>145880013
Everything I've seen from Final is promising, the mostly human npc's in IV were cool but this seems to have more demons involved in the storyline.

SMTV I'm excited for HD demons and reusing Tokyo assets from P5 but they would probably have to tweak the engine and models from that series for a mainline game.
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>>145878417
Hi
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>>145880013
>Final
It's already out so not much to be said.

>SMT V
Dungeon crawling like SJ, press turn combat (or something new that isn't a snoozefest like demon co-op), affinities carried over from Final, writing that isn't shit like Final's, alignment making a difference in negotiations, classic mode with limited save spots and game over with dead MC.
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>2016
>Still no COMP app for smartphones
>Still no COMP replicas
>Still no COMP OS
>Still no demon summoning program
Why even live?
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>>145880697
>Dungeon crawling like SJ, press turn combat (or something new that isn't a snoozefest like demon co-op), affinities carried over from Final, writing that isn't shit like Final's, alignment making a difference in negotiations, classic mode with limited save spots and game over with dead MC.
Day one buy but we both know that that's not going to happen.
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>>145880793
It's not like we'd live if there was a demon summoning program.
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>>145880793
Fuck, man.

I'd kill for a COMP.
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>>145880892
He asked for hopes, not expectations.
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>>145881373
Chaos heroes tend to take things well, don't they?
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>>145882459
I just love that, in the second game, Lucifer himself is like 'y'know what, this is bigger than both of us. Time to bring the ruckus.'
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdnNUYDmXOg

why does this game sound like Metroid Prime.
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>>145880793
A comp is just a keyboard with an eyepiece and a headphone attached, it's not that hard.
I can't code for shit, but I can't imagine it's that hard to code a few menus in something like python.
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Anyone know if or how I could copy my Innocent Sin save from my Vita to my PSP?
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>>145888032
Download that Sony's app for PC/Mac with which you can transfer things from Vita.
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Just beat Ouroboros in SJ and this was fucking bullshit

She did no damage to spess muhreen and a fuckload to my demons so i kept having to summon demons, hoping they don't instantly explode, debuff her just enough so she doesn't get rid of the buffs and pray to jesus that she doesn't just mahama my party.

Ended up using a fuckload of bead chains and every tetraja stone i had.
Still beat her, when every single one of my demons was dead and i said "fuck this, i'll shoot ice in your asshole till one of us dies"

I sure hope Fornax doesn't fuck my ass like eridanus did. Still, in the end it was fun to draw my map of the teleports.
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>>145889485
You just needed to equip a fire gun and a spam Co-op attacks with a couple of demons with fire moves.
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>>145889485
Fornax ain't that bad, other than being a glorified T-junction.
It's only Eridanus that has the turbo warping.

Eridanus is the second worst maze area other than NG+ Grus.
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I'm amazed at how good Black Frost is in SJ. I used him against Tiamat and kicked ass.
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>>145891057
Black Frost is usually a great demon/persona, not only for when you get him, but for a good period following it as well. He usually shows up around the halfway point, and will typically carry you til late game.
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Every single boss fight in the cathedral went down like a bitch.
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>>145892813
Yeah, the cathedral wasn't that hard

Then again, last time i did law ending so i don't remember if the neutral cathedral is harder or easier
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>>145892938
Neutral was easier
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So I just started DDS and I'm about to have to choose between alliances; or rather about whether or not we'll betray them after taking out the enemies.

Does it matter? In most games; I would get stuck crushing one or both and having PLOT take out my ally.

Really I'm only asking because I'm hoping that this game breaks the mold.
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>>145893295
That affects a thing that will happen in the second game, if you get that far. Without spoiling anything, always act honourable and support your comrades. It's not anything vital though, so if you want to act like an ass, go ahead, the plot progresses the same either way.
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We did it boys.
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>>145893562
>the plot progresses the same either way.
Shit
Wait, does the second game ask about it or does the PS2 check for the choice in the memory card?
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>>145893647
Good times.
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>>145893804
When you go to the second game, it asks if you want to carry over your save from the first game. That save will note what you did in the first. If you want to know what carries over, it's stuff like the choices you made, how much cash you had, optional bosses killed and level/skills mastered. Again, it doesn't affect the second game wildly, but it'll provide some cool touches when you get there, so it's up to you if you think it's worth the hassle. Most people will tell you it is though.
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>>145893804
The save data can be imported, yes
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>>145893562
Oh, and the save you carry over will be set in stone once you defeat the final boss, so it's a good idea once you get to the final save point (and you'll know when that is) to save and do everything then. I think some stuff actually unlocks when that happens anyway (it definitely happens like that in the second at least).
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mudo.
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>>145899170
don't do that
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>>145900130
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>>145888652
Thanks, will do.
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>>145893647

Wait, was there an update to the patch to fix more bugs? Do tell.
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Is shin megami 4 good on dsm

Im in a hurry so I left my trip on.
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>>145901831
>dsm
the hell is that
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>>145901831
Yeah
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Sometimes I think /smtg/ is too slow and we don't have much discussion

Then I click on /feg/ and feel so much better
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>>145908576
Have you ever been to /srg/?
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>>145908735
Nah
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>>145908576
It's cozy here.
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>>145908985
Good.
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>>145909024
Now if only you niggas would play Devil Summoner, patch when
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>>145908576
I said it last thread, but it bears repeating.

I'll gladly take a slow thread where we take it easy over a fast thread where everyone slings shit around.
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>>145871550
>I always looked at recarm and junk as helping the unconscious and not the dead, though that probably isn't actually the case.
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>>145910309
The real problem isn't that we're too slow, it's that every other general is too fast and makes threads at their fucking image limit.
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SURVIVED THE FALL FROM GRACE
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Is digital devil story: Megami Tensei good?
(Anime)
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IKU YO
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The best looking SMT game was released 12 years ago, how does this make you feel?
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>>145914262
If we still streamed on fridays I would show you
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>>145917609
Well, it is on Youtube. Just wanted to know if it is good. Although I guess I'll watching while working out some other day, anyway. Tokyo Revelation was kinda cool.
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Is this a plot hole in the Triangulum arc of Desu2 or am I overthinking this.

So everybody except Yamato and Saiduq dies in the second world, doesn't that mean those Administrative Authorities were lost? How could Saiduq have regressed the world again?
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https://discord.gg/012OE9ge1GbmdqbZD

Its not really a solely megaten discord anymore, but we took our spare discord and revived it, in case anyone is interested.
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>>145921034
the fuck is this shit
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>>145921034
We're not.
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hama.
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Nyahaha! Failure of a general! Failure of a general
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>>145880892
None of what he listed is even anything it would be hard to do aside from SJ dungeons. Not saying you're wrong though.
If they did have a classic version I'd hope they also had a suspend save anywhere system so proper saves were limited to terminals but you could save anywhere, quit, and reload, but the file would be deleted on loading. Don't know why SJ didn't have this, it's something a lot of handheld games have.
I'm not fussed about press turn but I hope to god characters execute commands in battle as soon as they receive them and not just when every party member has received their orders for that round. It just leads to them doing things they should know not to do.
Only advantage to it is it makes tetrakarn/makarakarn more fun but less useful.
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Don't die.
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>>145926248
Sorry.
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Feed me your souls.
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>>145926864
No, you dumb fuccboi.
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>>145927005
Think you can resist? Give me your soul right now, or else.
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>>145927219
How about I give you ten macca so you can go cut that stupid ass haircut you have, faggot.
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>>145927356
GIVE ME YOUR SOUL RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
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>>145927457
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>>145927457
DESIGNATED
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>>145927219
go away you adachi looking faggot
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>>145927640
SUMMONING
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>>145927581
>>145927640
>>145927738
Okay okay, let's try talking this out then. Surely there must be some way I can convince you to lend me your souls.
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>>145928970
Shesha pls.
Aren't you busy being a magical living space egg?
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>>145929152
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You're forcing my hand /smtg/, it doesn't have to be like this.
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>>145930135
What did I do?
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>>145930557
Give me your souls, so we might be active. Or else the dog gets it.
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>>145930654
Leave Pascal alone you piece of shit, shitpost with any other character you like but leave him alone.
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Grabbed SMTIV since it's on sale, it's my first foray into the series. Seems really awesome, so far I only wish that Jonathan as the cardinal lawful character wasn't so... delicate? Walter is just undeniably cooler.
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>>145930728
So this is how it's gonna be. Well then, /smtg/ now you'll have no choice but to give me your souls, your (You)s. This is what you did to him. You could have stopped this.
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>>145930798
Jonathan has his moments. Hoy is definitely best boy though. Good taste anon, and get out before you get spoiled.
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>>145930924
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>>145930924
and then, he killed the dog
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>>145930924
i hope you get banned you dog killing piece of shit
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>>145930924
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It's ok guys, it's just Pascal Asahi. The real Pascal is still busy being Cerberus.
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Pascal was here. He's gone now.
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>>145936936
There's a doghouse here.
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>>145880793
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>>145937252
But no dog?
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>>145938523
It's gone now
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>>145937485
Someone make a King of Bel feels edit.
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NOT ENOUGH
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>>145914835
IKU YOOOO!
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IT'S ONLY NATURAL
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>>145927778
STREETS
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I keep hearing - BEHOLD MY DEMONS
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>>145941740
I hear it in my sleep.
Hoyasuminasai.
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>>145941837
Sweet dreams
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>>145941837
Don't let any demons possess your body, cast eternal rest, you know the drill.
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My demons are a bit different
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Is there a music patch for Persona 1 PSP to use the Revelations beats?
>>145909556
When it's done.
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>>145945292
whos on the right
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifF4V6ADAjk

Dude finally uploaded the Anarchy ending.
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>>145947001
Can you extort YHVH for money like other bosses?
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>>145948538
Would be funny if so.
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>>145918823
The Triangulum arc doesn't follow on from any one ending in particular to begin with, so don't worry about it too much.
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>>145945623
Either Naoto or Yu
Unless you meant the outfit which belongs to the Debisama protagonist
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>>145950773
i didnt realize theyre fucking persona 4 characters, i thought they just drew him weird. it's probably yu
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Die for me
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>>145953527
I want to fuck Alice
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>>145872401
"Yusuke Miyata", or something like that, is credited for IVF's scenario. It's his only existing credit, so it's likely a pseudonym.
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>>145881373
>naming the protagonist Kazuya

my nigga
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>>145953636
Alice is pure
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>>145958212
Is there anyone who doesn't name him Kazuya?
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>>145961667
Me.

I always use my real name.
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>>145961667
I usually go with canon names
except for Soul Hackers, the canon name didn't fit.
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>>145961914
>canon names
>in SMT

What.
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>>145961719
I use my real name adapted into Japanese in most other SMT games too but there's something about SMT I and II that just make me use the canon name.

>>145961914
What's SH Hero's canon name?
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>>145961974
Flynn and Aleph.
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>>145962032
Those are just default names.
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>>145962108
If you consider that one DLC, they're canon too.
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Regarding If..., it was in testing last year. SO most likely it's bugs of some kind.
>>145956368
Could it be one of the original writers? Unlikely.
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>>145962230
Fucking hell.

What's the fucking point of the MC's being the players themselves if you're gonna use "canon" names.
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>>145962387
Blame timelinefags and cashgrab spinoffs. It's what I do.
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>>145962387
Most of the time the names are given through artbooks or when they get a manga or anime adaptation.
And I'm still butthurt over P3's "canon" name.
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>>145962387
I don't have to be "in" the story for me to enjoy it.
I mean when you read a book, watch a show/movie you aren't in them. I see games the same way.
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>>145963258
I disagree, but, whatever, don't feel like starting an argument.
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>>145963404
Wasn't trying to start one, just felt the need to explain myself.
Different strokes, thats why there is an option.
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>>145963258
I get your point but some people like me just feel better using their own name. Like man, you guys can criticize SMT IV all you want, but it's so fucking nice to wander around and make a name for myself as a demon hunter. It's fun.
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Hoy.
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>>145966106
Is it time for hoyposting?
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>>145966905
Reminder that IV's OST is the best thing to ever come out of Atlus.
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Loving SMT IV. Are there any actual story links to the Persona series? Is the best way to play them on emulators?
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>>145968709
You mean between Persona games? P1 has a lot of connections with P2IS/EP, same universe, almost all characters show up and even one of them is a party member in IS. P2 EP is a direct sequel of P2 IS.
P3 and P4 have separate stories.

Protip: Avoid the P4 spin offs like the plague. PQ is a pretty good dungeon crawler but the characterization is shit and the story is barebones and all around mediocre. Play PQ only after playing both P3 and P4 because spoilers.

P1 > P3 = P2 IS > P2EP > P4
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>>145963258
same desu

i like the idea of having a character i influence by living out a story from their perspective, but i understand why people prefer the self insert angle. they're really similar ways of enjoying something anyways.

also t-thanks anon for the chaos hero screenshot and making me want to replay smt1 again best mainline imo
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>>145968709
If you go through SMT III you'll see that Personas universe is just one of the possible worlds to come through after the Demi Fiend finds his Reason.

It's not one of the given choices, but in a multiverse setting, it's enough of a connection. Especially considering that Persona is mean to be a spinoff from mainline SMT.
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>>145970737
>Nocturne's fan-fiction tier re-release
>canon
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>>145969758
>I care about my subjective taste for the story and nothing else
P2 EP > P2 IS > P4 > P1 > P3
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>>145971698
>Persona
>caring about the story at all
Granted, P2 IS was a pretty wild ride.
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>>145971873
I just tried to reason why someone would prefer IS over EP and P3 over P4, it's not the gameplay.
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>>145968709

Only in a very indirect way. SMTIV has some very small ties to SMTI (Stephen and Mido). SMT IF was tied to SMT I through setting and some optional content, and to Persona 1 and 2 (with the main female protagonist from If returning in the first two Persona games as an npc). Persona 2 also had a character from Devil Summoner.
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>>145971263
Hasn't Atlus specifically said that all games happen in a Multiverse?

I don't see what is the issue. Especially since SJ and all the mainline games other than I and II seem to be their own dimension.
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>>145973389
Well, SMTIVA's DLC confirms that all mainline SMT are part of the same multiverse at least. Of course, I'm sure people will quickly point out the "DLC" bit.
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>>145972797
>it's not the gameplay.
P2 has shit tier gameplay all-around but at least IS has a better story and pacing and OST.
P3 also is less easy and actually has more elemental diversification. FES is also fucking fun to play through thanks to the obnoxious difficulty.
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P1 has the worst gameplay in that series the dungeons are great but everything about that battle system is awful starting with that atrocious grid and no even exp distribution.
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>>145973897
What makes P2's gameplay 'shit tier'? It's random battles. You cast magic. Attack. Things die. Repeat. Guess every traditional RPG is shit too. Bye FFVI and CT!
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>>145973897
I don't think P2 combat is that bad. It's just the oldschool SMT combat but it's on perma autobattle but you can pause between attacks.
Add persona changing and fusion spells to it and it makes the game pretty interesting in EP because IS is way too easy
Also 3 types of physical instead of 1 is about the only advantage over 4 3 has,
I guess it's a bit more difficult if you play with FES controls and don't know about Odin's Thunder Reign breaking the game.
P3 dungeons are the worst the series has ever had.
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>>145974957
Whole game on autobattle.
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>>145975459
Only in IS PSP. It was nerfed, IS PS1 is much tougher.

Doing that in EP will get you dead in no time.
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>>145974957
>bad dungeon designs
>slow as fuck
>easy as fuck
>limited commands
>the whole tarot card system
Nice strawman though.

>>145975085
>P3 dungeons are the worst the series has ever had.
I'd put Tartarus on the same level of P2's boringly bland dungeons.

>>145975598
>Only in IS PSP
Says who? It's literally the same shit. I played the PSX and PSP versions and beyond the differences in translation and the more modern and slower menus in the PSP it was the same thing.
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>>145975909
At least you got different locales in P2 and not just level n+1.
Also I don't think P2 is a perfect game but with a little bit of polish it could be.
And not the ISP style of "let's try to fit this game into P3/4 mold" kind of polish.
The menus need a real revamp and it should be way more obvious how the combat works, what they did in ISP just made it more confusing.
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Is this that one guy who used to shitpost in every thread saying how P2 was an abomination and inferior to P1 in every single way and by the way Law is the only side that matters in every game and if you can't see that then you're a retarded Chaosbabby?
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>>145976579
>At least you got different locales in P2 and not just level n+1.
Agreed. Still, I wish P2's dungeons were actually more dungeon-y and less repetitive.

>Also I don't think P2 is a perfect game but with a little bit of polish it could be.
Also agreed. Make the damn game faster and rebalance the enemies so that battles actually matter. Also remove that SP regeneration on the field shit and lower random encounter rate.

>And not the ISP style of "let's try to fit this game into P3/4 mold" kind of polish.
Please, no. Don't put SLs in P2, please.

>>145976579
>The menus need a real revamp and it should be way more obvious how the combat works, what they did in ISP just made it more confusing.
Both the menus and the whole fusion and tarot card system need a complete overhaul. They focused more on making it shiny and stylish instead of making it functional in the PSP remake.
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>having an SMT alignment argument on /fgog/ of all places

How odd.
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>>145976910
Not sure if you're talking about me, but every time people here say P2's combat isn't flawed, my autism explodes.

>inferior to P1 in every single way
Just combat wise. In terms of story, P2 is superior. Atmosphere is 10/10 in both P1 and P2.
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>>145977080
>lower random encounter rate
Never understood why people act like P2 has the encounter rate of the SNES versions of SMT I/II, is it worse on the PSP version or something?
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>>145977308
Is Fate Grand Order actually good? I kinda enjoy the Fate VN and the Extra games.

>>145977468
The PSP is worse. The PS1 version is bearable but the PSP version's encounter rate is atrocious, specially in the last dungeons.
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>>145977359
>Just combat wise
P1 combat is pure garbage desu
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>>145975909
The final boss is the big change. Great Father is a nightmare in the original.
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>>145977705
Then P2's gameplay is the purest garbage.
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>>145977936
It was changed? So it was harder in the PS1 version? I don't particularly remember having trouble finishing IS, but then again it's been years since I've played it.
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>>145978293
I'm positive. I had to use savestates against him in the PS1 version. All his attacks are like a kitten's paw in PSP. In a way, they kind of balanced the game by making him easier. IS was always pretty easy. It's a huge spike when you get to Great Father.
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>>145977936
I wouldn't say "a nightmare" but it was a good fight.
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>>145977573
>Is Fate Grand Order actually good?
Ehh, it's passable i guess?

I only got into it because of the waifus.

The gatcha is fucking bullshit, though.

There's this event going on, a limited time character i wanted to get.

Luck kicked my balls and gave me jack shit.

Damn shame, i really wanted that tity monk.

If you like fate and can deal with mobages, go on ahead.

The MC you play as is meant to be a Self Insert, if that interests you like it did to me.

Otherwise, save yourself from this hell.
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>>145978402
If I only care about the semen demon voiced by Aoi Yuuki, should I just wait for her to show up in other shit instead of spending time and money on fgo?
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>>145978390
>rebalancing the last boss to shit difficulty to match the rest of the game instead of actually caring a damn about a remake and rebalance the entire game to an acceptable difficulty
And people say Atlus isn't lazy as fuck.

>>145978402
I don't expect much from mobile games anyway but gatcha based ones are the worst of the pack. Dully noted. Guess I'll pass on it. I really wanted to get Saber Nero though.
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>>145978785
Oh, I know Atlus are lazy. They also don't give a shit about the US, or by extension, Europe. If it wasn't for Atlus USA, we'd get treated the same way. They didn't even want to help Atlus USA do EP PSP, so they had to settle for the table scraps of putting the PS1 version on PSN.
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>>145978950
To be fair EPP sold like crap ,much like the original EP. It's not surprising it wasn't localized.
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>>145978950
>or by extension, Europe
As an Yuropoor, I fully understand you.

>They didn't even want to help Atlus USA do EP PSP
Let's be honest here, we all know P2 IS sold like shit. If they bother bringing a ton of shit games to the DS/3DS/Vita they would bring P2 EP Portable if they had the interest in it.
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>>145979167
Atlus USA flat out said that it wasn't why they didn't localize it. Usually the bombing means they'd want to localize it to make back some extra money.
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>>145979312
I don't think a company would say that their own game sold like shit. That would raise all kind of red flags for the sequel that they'd want to bring over. They just pretended they were thinking about it, like Aksys with F/E CCC.
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>>145979467
I've heard murmurings that Atlus JP is literally the reason it didn't get localized. They didn't want to or weren't able to do the programming, so Atlus USA was left with no choice but to do the PSN release.
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>>145979467
Also, FUCK Aksys. Fate/Extra sold great, they just didn't want to pay Nasu for the rights to CCC. Or maybe Fuck Nasu, take your pick.
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>>145978730
>If I only care about the semen demon voiced by Aoi Yuuki

This one?

Too late, her event ended a week ago, she was a limited time.

>>145978785
>Saber Nero

Nice.

I prefer her Bride self in GO, though.

If you want, try waiting for Extella.

You can play as Nero there.
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How useful is status in these games compared to, say, EO?
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>>145979547
Damn fuckers. I wouldn't be surprised if that's actually the truth about EPP's unlocalization.

>>145979675
CCC is way too suggestive to bring over anon. They'd have to censor it probably and even then it would get a M rating. They didn't want to risk it.

>>145979752
Sakura Tange's voice is pure sex for me.

Her bride's outfit is 10/10 but I prefer her Imperial costume she unlocks at the end of CCC.
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Hero/Famed Gilgamesh and Genma Enkidu when?
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>>145980016
>CCC is way too suggestive to bring over anon. They'd have to censor it probably and even then it would get a M rating. They didn't want to risk it.

I'm well aware, but sheesh, Senran Kagura makes that game look tame.
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>>145979675
Wasn't extra localization really shitty? I remember reading that the npc dialog didn't match the original at all or something.
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>>145980270
>Senran Kagura makes that game look tame.
I disagree. Some of the designs were way over the top and the whole punish segments were as tame as Criminal Girls and we know how that one ended up NISA is a whole level of shit though.
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>>145980441
That's typical for Aksys, they usually have... liberal translations.
>>145980474
I had no idea that kind of stuff was in it.
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>>145980017
Fate's Gil and Enkidu or Atlus own take on them?

>>145980270
Somebody say Senran Kagura?
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>>145968239
>I always sold my relics at the Ashura-Kai Authorized Shop because of its comfy music
IV really had some great music, was it all Meguro?
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>>145980641
I want to FUCK Kagura.
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>>145980441
Extra's localization was pretty decent. I didn't play the JP version but the main voiced dialogues were pretty well translated.

>>145980560
>I had no idea that kind of stuff was in it.
You don't know half of it then.

>>145980734
It was all Meguro's apprentice Ryota Koduka who did the job. Meguro had nothing to do with IV's OST.
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>>145980984
I want to impregnate Haruka and take responsibility.
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>>145981076
I want Kagura to be the heroine in the next SMT game
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>>145980641
>>145980984
>>145981076
I want to hold hands with Naraku and proceed to make love in the missionary position solely for procreation.
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>>145980984
>>145981076
>>145981169
>>145981354
Gentlemen, get your horny asses back in /skg/

We talk about killing our friends and changing the world to our vision, here.

Kagura is top senran

Now get out.
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>>145981002
If he's an apprentice, he's coming for the throne.
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>>145981458
I want to hold hands with Vouivre and proceed to make love in the missionary position solely for procreation after I kill my different alignmented friends.
Better?
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I want to motorboat Miyabi tan lines tits will forever have a special place in my heart tho
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>>145981661
Meguro showed he still has talent with Catherine's OST though.
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>>145982102
And SJ's.
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>>145981785
Is it even possible to have children with demons? Angels?
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>>145982214
That too. Although a lot of /smtg/ doesn't like SJ's OST at all.

>>145982215
Let the demon apocalypse happen, give me a COMP and I'll try it out.
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>>145982348
Meguro's great, no doubt, but Kozuka's work on IV is incredible. It's like he consumed the soul of the old school SMT sound team.
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>>145981458
I want to negotiate with scathach and proceed to make her my demon by offering some lifestones and macca
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>>145982598
I think meguro has also kind of formed his own style already. When you listen to IVs soundtrack you can tell it isn't him.
I still think DDS was his best work. But Persona 5 is sounding pretty nice too.
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>>145982598
Yeah. I was completely mindblown when IV's trailers started showing up. Both modern and oldschool and every track just feels spot on where it's used.

I just hope Final will have just as good OST. Final's battle theme sounds really good but the boss battle didn't click with me.
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>>145982214
>>145982348
I prefer Nocturne, DDS and IV, but i thought SJ's was pretty good.

I hope there's more of IV's Boss Theme.

A metal styled OST for next game, perhaps?
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>>145982914
I personally felt that the weakest parts of IV's ost were the boss battles.
Challenge quests and mid bosses had a nice theme but the big battles were underwhelming for me, except for the Clipped wings DLC battles.
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>>145983070
I wasn't a fan of DDS' OST and IV's has tons of tracks I don't give a shit about, like all those challenge quests battle tracks.
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>>145982865
>Persona 5
I'm still on the fence about that one's music. The first trailer with music they showed sounded pretty good but the more recent ones just felt bland? And the battle theme of the last trailer was good but nothing all that special.

>>145983070
DDS's OST was damn good too. Probably my favorite after IV. SH also has a nearly 10/10 OST. SJ and Nocturne are excellent too. Too bad Nocturne reuses a bunch of musics from SMT I and II which have really solid OSTs by the way.

What's /smtg/'s take on the two DeSu's OSTs?
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>>145983372
The mid bosses themes are fucking nice but I agree on the big boss's themes. While not bad, they weren't on par with the rest of the OST's quality.
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>>145880793
>>Still no COMP app for smartphones

You know, I was thinking of making a smartphone app of an SMT fight simulator. Something akin to SMT4:A or SJ's battle mechanics. It would primarily be random encounter generation and missions. Maybe have a little lore involving doppelganger MC avatars or some shit for maximum RP potential. Also have more demon raising potential, for more of that tamagatchi feel. Remember those?

Anyways, this "project" is obviously not even close to passing the "Whimsical Brainstorming" phase, but I'm wondering what the people here think. Is it a thought worth pursuing?
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>>145983416
>What's /smtg/'s take on the two DeSu's OSTs?

DeSu1's ost is better than the second, I think. The first game has music I'd actually want to listen to, like Haru's song and Battle Beat. The second game's music is just... there.

DDS (counting both games as one) has the joint best ost along with Nocturne though. This is not up for debate.
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>>145983625
Honestly, I'd eat up anything SMT related on the mobile market as long as it doesn't rely too much on touch commands.
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>>145983625
Fund it.

It is very worth it.
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>>145880793
>receive email
>TO: Everyone accessing this network
>"Humanity is currently in great danger!"
>Demon Summoning Program.exe

Would you really?
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>>145983969
I bought SMT I for my iphone and while I enjoyed it, the touch commands are such a pain in the ass.
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>>145984197
I'd stare at the screen for days.

All while silently hoping it's real and not some virus.
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>>145984197
considering I would probably die if I didn't, yes.
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>>145983416
The first one was a mess, there's a few outstanding tracks but most of it sound like music made by a highschool rock band.
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>>145984398
Just ask /smtg/.
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>>145984506
Of course, most of y'all would download the app, grab some weapons and go to town.
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>>145984710
I'd probably tell you it's a virus.
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>>145985159
Only to have one less Demon Summoner to deal with.
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>>145985812
Yup.
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Which would you want a Comp, Demonica, or Gauntlet?
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>>145986338
COMP.
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>>145984197
Honestly? Yes.

>>145984219
The touch commands are horrible. I don't understand how people can say that emulating through mobile is the best thing ever.
>inb4 connect a gamepad
If I want to use a fucking gamepad I'd emulate on PC
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Would the demons be mindless thralls who just do my bidding, or would we be the best of bros with them having their own personalities and shit?
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>>145986338
Tough choice, but i'll go with COMP.
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>>145986338
A fucking GUMP.
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>>145986504
I would like to think they keep their personalities
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>>145986463
I used to have an Xperia Play, that thing was fantastic for emulating.

I regret not playing SMT 1 and II on it.
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>>145986697
Only if it comes with a Nemissa.
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Left or right?
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>>145986858
Left.
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Did anyone take that Love test in Soul Hackers?
Who did you get the first time you took it?
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>>145986858
Always left. Those horns are like power steering for oral sex.
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>>145986858
Which one's the masochist.
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>>145986858
Left. Demon girls are the best.
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>>145986697
Or the tubes raidou uses
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>>145986858
R-right
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>>145986858
Cybele, although she's far from being my demonfu.
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>>145987423
World of smirk, that pic.
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>>145987259
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>>145986338
smartphones
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>>145987643
Get this hothead outta here.
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>>145987059
I got Nemissa and then Mary.

>>145987643
No.
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What is your smt-related custom item?
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>>145987423
>>145987537
Devil Summoner games have the best protags
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>posting on /smtg/ and on a FF thread on /v/
>have to keep going back and clicking between my FF and SMT folders
>have to be extra careful not to mistakenly post wrong pics to avoid /v/'s autism bursts
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>>145988823
>Still, I need to blog about it!
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>>145988941
Sorry.
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>>145986338
COMP for the aesthetic. The armor of the Demonica would be like a nice safety blanket though.
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>>145987643
Smartphones are the gayest and one of the most overpriced things on the market, and I'm posting from a mobile right now.
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DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF GOD
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>>145989708
still better than a 90's awkward take on future technology
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>>145987059
I got Mary. I'm okay with that.
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>>145971698
I feel the same way but in that case my opinion would be
P2 EP> P2 IS> P1> P3 > P4
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>>145989867
LET ME SLEEP PLEASE
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>I AM A MAN, HALF-HUMAN.
What did he mean by this?
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Mudo.
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>>145996260
Needs more Hoy pics/10
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>>145998341
Not really.
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>>145998341
That's not how that meme works.
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>>145998954
/s

>>145999176
I know how the meme works.

You guys don't know when to take a joke.
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>>145999313
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>>145999313
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>>145987423
This looks like an ad for Ghostbusters
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Recarmdra
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>>145996260
Can someone pass me that car one?
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I PITY YOU
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I'LL END IT THUS
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>No save file after the ending
How the game keeps track of new game plus for NG+ visionary items
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>>145992129
I want FemiFiend to rape me.
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>>145987059
Spooky. No complaints from me.
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>>146011147
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>>146003137
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>>146000365
GhostbustersxShin Megami Tensei when?
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Is it incorrect to find Mastema handsome? Please respond.
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>>145986338
A Nintendo DS.
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>>146009657
What game?
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>>146013418
Devil Summoner!
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>>146013937
Yes. Lucifer is the only demon that you should find attractive.
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>>145987059
The maid girl, forgot her name.
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>>146015869
It's Mary, senpai. How do you forget best robot-girl's name??
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>>146016091
I don´t know how many years have passed since I played that game.
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>>146016194
Eh, fair enough. I spent an ungodly amount of time at the Hotel Goumaden trying to fuse good zeeds.
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>>146014675
SMT I for iOS
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What if Persona 5 releases before SMTIV:A does.
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>>145992129
i want femifiend beat the shit out of me
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>>146017852
forgot to include more femifiend
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Don't die.
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HELLO HUMAN
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>>146020275
Sup bby
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>>145962003
>I use my real name adapted into Japanese

>tfw your name is already Japanese
>tfw you're a girl
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>>146020275
I feel weird whenever Burroughs says "master".
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Reminder that the only people who like EP are those who played it before IS.
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>>145977359
>say P2's combat isn't flawed

Those people are retarded.
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>>146022153
But I liked EP and I played IS first
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>>145982215
Loki has a kid.
Lucy has them too.
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>>146022129
>Status as beta noted
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>>146022342
Then you have shit taste. Sorry senpai
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hoy
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>>146025563
kys
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>>146026489
>>>/facebook/
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I love you, Mastema.
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How do you guys think fusing with a demon feels like?
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>>146029904
Like bags of sand.
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Demonic Gene chapter 13 FUCKING WHEN?
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>>146022820
N-no you
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is Apocalypse mainline even if its not numbered?
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>>146031790
Yes
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>>146031790
No
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>>146031790
Maybe
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Best Megami Tensei on the SNES?
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>>146031790
I don't know
>>146032631
MT2
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>>146031790
Can you repeat the question?
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>>146032461
>]
>>146032564
>>146032609
>>146032694
>>146032860
guys please, this is important
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>>146033015
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
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>>146033015
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
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>>146033015
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW
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AND YOU'RE NOT SO BIG
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Life is unfair...
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Bravo
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>>146033307
Are the VHS Anime OVAs part of the SMT Multiverse?
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>>146033809
I guess so.
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hey /smtg/

im hunting for fiends for my first time and i want to make sure im doing this right. (i've been trying for days and this motherfucker hasnt shown his bony ass)

I'm going for matador, so i enter the shelter, walk to the spot he appears, and check. If he isnt there, then i go back to the elevator, ride up and then immediately go back down to check again.

is this right?
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WE'LL SACRIFICE THE SON OF MAN
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>>146036079
*WE'LL SACRIFICE THE SON OF HEAVEN
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>>146036250
Oops
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>>146034237
I'm pretty sure you have to save outside the shelter and then reload if he doesn't appear. It's been a while though but I don't think it resets unless you do it that way.
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>>146034237
I saved on the world map outside the shelter
Ran in and checked
Reload save
Repeat.
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MAN'S GREATEST GLIMPSE OF FIRE RED
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Hoy
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>>146042009
this isnt the pkmn thread
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Reminder: the only people who hate Strange Journey are casuals who've never played a dungeon crawler prior to it
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>>146043731
SJ was the first time I ever played a first person dungeon crawler and I like it a lot.
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>>146043731
This >>146043973 SJ got me into dungeon crawlers. The only people who hate it are faggots with shit taste.
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>>146043731
>>146043973
>>146044380
I liked SJ.

For some reason i could not get into Demon Gaze, whenever i play it, i just think of SJ, and get the sudden urge to play it again.
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Are there any other cool glitches like this in SMT4?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcBXPZW0xbQ
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Hoy.
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>>146048736
So, why the change from him holding a gun to a sword?

Goddmanit, Japan, use a fucking gun for once.
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Is Lain related to the Amala network?
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Hoy.
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>>146051926
Ikuyo!
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>>146048874
The one game designed for a western audience has a gun instead of a sword.
Coincidence?
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>>146053695
They knew.

I swear they knew.

>>146052115
BEHOLD, THE POWER OF CHAOS.
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SAMARECARM
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Hoy.
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>>146033015
AND YOU'RE NOT SO BIG
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>>146048736
Who was aviator cap?
>>
>>146048736
Still pissed they went from Walter-looking guy to edgy teenager.
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>>146059657
It fits. the edgy punk kid in a post apocalyptic world and all.

I still would have preferred to play as a grown adult.

Fucking sick of playing as a teenager in JRPG's.
>>
Who's the mad genius that thought of macca beam?
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>>146059928
>It fits. the edgy punk kid in a post apocalyptic world and all.
I dunno. I would imagine most kids would serious the fuck up in such a scenario. Plus, at least it could have been a girl.
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>>146059928
>>146059657

Nanashi looks less than 12 though
Is there a stated age?
Fuck, he looks so tiny and scrawny
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>>146061742
Sixteen, I think.
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>>146061742
Forgetting the food situation of Tokyo, are we?

They used to hunt birds for meat, now they eat demon meat.

And grown veggies are rare.

Still, the dude could work out, too scrawny that he'll be mistaken for a girl.
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>>146062034
>that he'll be mistaken for a girl.
Maybe that is an alternative way to get food.
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>>146063153
Very fitting in a lawless world.
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>>146063153

Well, everyone from Tokyo in your party are rather well off or at least lucky compared to many NPCs you meet in SMTIV.
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Did you know that Atlus US are supposed to announce SMTIVA release date this week?
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>>146061742
Asian fashion and genetics anon
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Not yet.
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>>146067563
Ugly
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Hoy.
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>>146061742
He's 15. Youngest protag besides Aleph.
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Looks like someone is about to crack again.
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>>146075276
TBF it's harder to get much younger than Aleph...
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>>146076447
No shit Sherlock.
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>>145962003

The novelization uses Keiji Minegishi. Manga uses Arata Tsukamoto. Either way, the surname won't fit in the localized version.

Note that Atlus has never commited on a real name for many of the old protagonists. Hacker is just listed as "Hero" in the Devil Survivor Demon Auctions, and the SMTI Hero seems to be just "The Hero" in SMTIVA's DLC.
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I WILL NOT CRACK
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hOY
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Hoy.
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Hoy
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Would SMT benefit from more demons per game or would it make Fusion too convoluted?
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Hoy.
>>
Trying to find the right slide panel under the darkness was frustrating on sector d, but I made it to Eradinus. How painful is this suspiciously serene new area?
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>>146088957
Get out your graph paper and colored pencils.
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>>146088957
There's like one teleporter maze that's kind of a problem, other than that it's not too bad.

I don't know why people always talk it up, Horologium was much worse and no-one ever seems to talk about that.
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>>146088957
It starts off gentle but about halfway through could become your least favorite area in the game.
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Let's go, /smtg/!
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>>146089826
why'd you trick me into thinking Soul Hackers was going to be good?
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>>146088147
I don't think the huge amount of demons improve anything. In fact, SMTIV has too many. I will be okay if SMTV goes back to 150-170 demons if they switch to 3D models.
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Hoy.
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>>146093756
Sup dude
played any good SMT games lately
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>>146088147
I like going through the compendium and reading what they've got to say, so absolutely.
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>>146088147
Many SMT games need more races with high level demons, some races cap out at like, 45-50 in some games. It makes all the end-game fusion about cycling through the same 7-8 high-level demons or special fusions.

SMT 1 has the problem where all the unique high level demons are either rediculously high leveled (75+) or must be made with a odd triple fusion combo with a Megami or Kishin to get a Maou or Diety, and then fusing those high-tier demons with another odd combo to get a higher one.
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SMT Amie feature fucking when?
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Hoy.
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>>146098956
Such is a Sawmoorais skill!
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>>146099094
My demons are a bit different!
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>>146091393
The music was good tho
>>
CAN YOU FEEL IT?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VL5RPQVx7M
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>>146099680
I'll assist you!
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>>146089527
Maybe they were traumatized?
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>>146088147
Yes, as long as they spread them out in a balanced way between races and through all levels. To avoid Devil Survivor's problem: having only a handful of demons with high levels, limiting options for race skills at the end game and against extra bosses.
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>>146063927
i didn't know that.

Is this a lie? Do you have a source?
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I just started Persona 1 awhile ago and I'm level 15 right now. What other stats should I be increasing besides DX and which stat increases magic attack and defense?
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>>146101625
Autism
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If I tell the Lady in Black that I will go to meet her master after the 4th Kalpa in Nocturne does this ally me with Lucifer or do I just gain access to the next area?
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>>146104356
max dx
you could also consider raising the stat which gives the largest increase
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>>146104356
When I played I dumped almost every single point into DX. AG and ST secondary.
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>>146104356
Dex is awesome because it raises BOTH your physical and magical stats, so make it your priority. Agility is very important in this game, as you get EXP by attacking, so a slow character will really lag behind the others. In my game, Mark was like, 10 levels behind the Hero because of this. You also want some Vit to make raise that HP, of course; I would alternate between it and Luck but that is your choice.

Keep in mind that your total stats are an average between the character and the persona's (the yellow bar shows how much is being increased by this), so you can always equip a persona that compensates for your weakness.
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>>146105028
Just do what you feel like doing anon.
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>>146105463
>Mark was like, 10 levels behind the Hero because of this

giving mark personae with nuke helps
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>>146105113
>>146105209
>>146105463
Thanks niggas
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>>146106421
Please tell me you're not playing in 1080p.
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>>146106705
Yeah why is that bad? I'm playing it on my phone so I didn't notice it.
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>>146108141
Oh.
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>>145978785
>And people say Atlus isn't lazy as fuck.
They arent'lazy, just dropped the ball there.
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>>146106705
>>146108141
>1080p on a phone

whats the point?
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Gideon AKA Aeon Genesis here. I'll answer any questions you have about If... or other projects.

Rest assured, it is coming. My personal life has taken priority recently. Getting harder to work on translations on the side with such a low salary.
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>>146109543
Because it's the best way to play.

Are you some kind of pleb?
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What other dungeon crawler games do you guys enjoy? I've played Etrian Odyssey and I'm loving Labyrinth of Touhou 2 right now, and since I'm enamored with the genre I'm looking for other stuff to play.
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>>146109821
Could you explain to us why Hoy is such a shit meme?
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>>146108141
1080p is fine, but you have some gross upscaling filters on which is making the sprites look pretty bad. Might want to turn them off if you know how.
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>>146020275
why not just a naked ot topless ai.
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>>146109903
do you have a vita? no, of course you don't. or you wouldn't be asking.
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>>146109543
>>146109892
The only way to play

>>146109957
I'll try to turn them off, I had turn things like frameskip on to keep the game from slowing down
>>
Do I really need to side with Isamu, Chiaki, or Hikawa to get a real final boss? A friend told me that he got a "nothing" ending and no final boss because he never sided with anyone, but maybe he missed something like never going down to the bottom of the labyrinth or something. I just beat Sameal in the Diet Building and then unlocked the 5th Kalpa. I dont want to look up the endings to be spoilt, I just want to know if I NEED to side with someone if I dont want a "nothing" ending and no final boss.
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>>145893647
What's this about?
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>>146110276
Disgusting.
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>>146110786
If you don't side with either of those 3 or the teacher, as well as not finish the Labyrinth of Amala, you get told to fuck off instead of a final boss.

It's very unlikely to happen. You'll be fine.
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>>146109821
Why are you such a homo
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>>146110928
>There are people too new to SMTG to remember the pre-orden patch SMT1 and debugging the game in the thread
good times you missed
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>>146111652
I know about all that, I just haven't played SMT I so I thought this was a newer patch, separate from Orden's initial bugfixes
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>>146112046
>I just haven't played SMT I

Disgusting.
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>>146112595
I love these.
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>>146112780
>No glasses are no good
Atlus must die.
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>>146112994
Glasses are shit.
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>>146113046
you're shit
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>>146113046
You are shit.
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>>146112780
>glasses are no good

toi eight? more like shit taste
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>>146113135
>>146113167
Four-eyed freaks. Sunglasses are the only good glasses.
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>>146113167
based god kamiya
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>>146113274
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>>146113457
This gif is weird. It has tons of megaten pics, then a few non-megaten in the middle and then it goes back to megaten at the end.
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Don't die.
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>>146115878
That's a hot pairing.
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I HOPE YOU'RE PREPARED!
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I won't let you die.
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>>146118171
I love you too.
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Not yet.
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SULLIES THE WORLD
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All my friends are dead.
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>>146126336
Did you kill them?
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>>146127310
They got smacked in the head.
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>>146127310
No, SMTG did. You are the real demon.
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How does /smtg/ feel about Raidou's battle system. Also being able to "catch" demons?
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>>146109821
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>>146125021
WE'LL DEAL WITH THIS QUICKLY
>>
I still can't get over Yamato's voice in Record Breaker. That kid is sure as hell not 16. More like 26.
Why couldn't they have chosen a more suitable VA, like say, an angry, edgy teenager?
>>
>>146130319
>Atlus
>Suitable VA
aylmao
>>
>>146130319
I thought he sounded more like a sixteen-year-old than Suwabe.
>>
>>146130319
It's just to make him seem more severe/cruel/powerful, since he's the Chaos guy.
He's actually 17, but I agree that he sounds a little older. Not gonna complain, though, I still found the skill in the RB voice acting to be top-notch.
>>
PARDON ME
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>>146110206
thanks for the suggestion m8
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>>146132932
Yeah, the general quality of the VA work in Record Breaker is a lot more solid and consistent than it was in Overclocked, I'll give it that much. Fumi's VA is excellent, though. Suits her perfectly.
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>>146132937
Isabeau looks stupid. A samurai needs to look intimidating and deadly, not stupid.
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>>146133660
I think I still prefer it to her original design.
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>>146134036
That looks way better. All the original designs looked better than the final ones except maybe Jonathan.
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>>146134196
Why such blasphemy, Sempai? Jonathan's is the only one I thinks looks better, although it makes him seem a bit angsty for a law hero.
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>>146134395
I don't like his original haircut. It reminds me of that little shit from Persona 3, can't remember his name.
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>>146133660
I feel like im the only one who likes Isabeau's design.
>>
SUCH IS A SAMOORAI SKILL
>>
MOST UNLUCKY FOR YOU!


*Minotaur smirks*
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>>146134469
Ken? They DO look kind of similar. I dunno, I didn't play much of Persona, the resemblance doesn't really bother me.
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I'LL END IT THUS
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The fact that I can get pretty much all the PS2 SMT games for $15 new is crazy

>>146134501
No, I'm with you man. I like her just as much as hoy. Jonathan is shit, though, I thought he was a woman when I first saw the art.
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>>146130367
>generic anime chie

kill me
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>>146133003
Mind 0 and whatever that new one is Stranger of Sword City? are on Steam.

Mind 0 isn't that good, so I'd steal it before comitting to Vita version. I didn't play the other one but my friend said it's Wizardry as fuck
>>
>>146134196
Walter looks better without scars.
>>
Is Strange Journey as fun as it looks?
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>>146138584
No, it's even worse
>>
>>146138584
no
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>>146138535
Indeed, the scars were overkill. And I don't even know where, exactly, one finds shark teeth in Mikado.
>>
>>146138750
>>146138862
What's so bad about it?
>>
>>146139046
Kidding, it's just mediocre. Way overrated for having 2-3 good dungeons in it.
>>
>>146138912
The shark tooth wasn't so bad. Also even if the change wasn't major I prefer his finalized hair and default expression. He looks less like he's done with people's bullshit, and just looks confident instead. I think it suits him better.
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>>146138584
Yes.
>>146138750
>>146138862
>>146139046
The "negative" of SJ are
>No turn press system, in place of it is a bland co-op system
>difficult, some of the tougher battles in the series and the Etrian odyssey-like dungeons can be(will be) frustrating.
The last one isn't even that much of a negative, other than that SJ is fun with probably the best demon negotiations from any game.
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>>146139462
>trash music
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>>146139462
Is there a first person dungeon crawler that's better within the series? I'll likely still try it
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>>146139652
Devil Summoner, in my opinion

But I also really like SMT1 personally
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>>146139282
>He looks less like he's done with people's bullshit, and just looks confident instead. I think it suits him better.
Stuff like this makes me wonder just how many different iterations the same character goes through before the finalization of the game. Like, it's pretty pointless, but I like considering how the plot would have changed if we had ended up with mystical/pizza face Isabeau, or cool Jonathan, or edgy Walter.
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>>146139790
Do you think the character alignments are chosen before or after the design?
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>>146139652
If you don't mind playing games that are somewhat dated >>146139652
If you do than I would say SJ is the best.
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>>146139929
Before.

>>146139790
If I had to guess they write characters first and then draw them until they get an appearance they feel fits their role.
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>>146139929
I'm assuming they start with an alignment, and then try out various personality and design possibilities until they find one that goes with the storyline they want.

>>146140035
I have the official strategy and design book. Beside Jonathan's concept art, it reads, "This early version of Jonathan has a gentle expression and a serious demeanor. It seems that his yellow scarf was already decided on at this point."
The personality which you would expect from a character described as such contrasts greatly from in-game Jonathan's affable, and slightly goofy, personality. Therefore, I would say that the personality is fluid along with the design, at least in the early stages of development. I assume a very basic alignment representative is created at first, and then altered to fit the story.
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>>146139652
MT2 is my favorite.
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>>146140747
Jonathan struck me as a serious guy though.
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>>146142709
Yeah, especially whenever he srs'd the fuck up.
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>>146142709
Really? I found Walter to be more casual and Jonathan to be more friendly. In battle and after the alignment split, however, I noticed a serious Walter and an assured-in-right Jonathan. This change made Walter seem the severe one and Jonathan the laughable one to me.
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>>146143018
>Minotaur! You've proved your devotion to your master King Aquila, we'll strike you down with the utmost respect!
Johnny boy was a cooler dude than Walter when he wanted to.
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>>146143694
Yonatan best waifu.
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>>146143434
I think the point where that one dude jokes about killing a hostage samurai really illustrated it best. Jonathan takes what he says so seriously he grabs the guy, meanwhile Walter just whistles in amusement at how Jon reacts.
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>>146143891
I see exactly where you're coming from, but that honestly only made me laugh at him. It's still a wicked awesome scene for Jonathan, though, but I just can't get over how hilarious it is.
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>>146144116
I mean yeah, he can be funny, but it's important to keep in mind he doesn't try to be. As a character Jonathan is very sincere and doesn't joke around much.
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>>146144224
Hm, very true.
...
...You (assuming you're the same anon) may or may not have converted me to to your side during the course of this discussion. :p
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>>146144454
Good boy.
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>>146144454
I am the same anon.

>:p
Just use a reaction image my guy.
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>>146144539
Ehhh, that takes effort. I'm trying to study for uni and follow this thread at the same time, it's not worth it to search through my haphazardly organized Memes and Reactions folder.
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>>146144707
Get out and study anon. You'll never survive in a Wurld of STR if you don't put your all into the things that matter.
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>>146144798
Damn, why are you so right?
Well, reckon I'm out for the night/morning, then. Depending on what time zone you're in, have a nice day/sleep, man.
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Good night, /smtg/.
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Hoy.
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>Be euro
>Can't even play NA version

Regionlock is absolutely retarded
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>>146149861
>He STILL hasn't hacked his 3DS
Cmon anon it's 200X
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>>146150042
>200
Anon...
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>>146149861
>caring about the burger version
>He STILL hasn't learned moon
Cmon anon it's XX16
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>>146150042
>the current year
>STILL hasn't imported a US 3ds
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>>146150042
>current timeline
>he still doesn't have every 3ds model from every region
Come the fuck on.
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>>146151175
>importing a US 3ds
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>2016
>this general is still alive
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Hoy.
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>>146151904
we somehow continue to exist in this world of str
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Hoy.

>>146154175
It's a world of Neutral, and it sucks.
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>go to reverse hills with Jonathan, to where the kids are
>have the option to let them go, though Jonathan says to keep them here for safety
>choose to let them go
>later hear munching sounds

Demons must'a ate the brats alive.

Didn't expect that.
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Hoy.
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Hoy.
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MegaTen is safe from censorship, right? It seems like all Atlus USA games are.
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So Tokyo Mirage Sessions and Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse have been released in Japan already, and Persona 5 comes out later this year there as well. And by February, the'll all be out in the US as well.

What do you think Atlus has planned for MegaTen next? New spin-offs or sequels to old ones? HD remasters and/or remakes? 3DS Strange Journey? I'd love to see some of the older games like SMT1 and 2, and Persona 1 and 2 get remade. Atlus USA could probably use the downtime to localize SMT2 in iOS.
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Gas hoy posters
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>>146170989
Behead those who insult hoy
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>>146167784
I think Persona team hinted at another Anniversary project but that's it.
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I'LL ASSIST YO- IKU YOO
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>>146140017
>Dated
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Doing neutral in SMT IV, please don't tell that I need that four damn cards of Ginza to being 1st on the hunter ranking.
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>>146179523
Oh, you poor son of man.
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>>146101625
SUP SMTG
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>>146170989
You'll be in my list when the wurld of str rolls in.
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>>146167784
A third Raidou game with a good story and gameplay. I enjoyed the second game's gameplay, but the first game's story stands out more.
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Hoy.
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Does the P3 MC really just tell people what they want to hear?
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How's your progress going in the SMT games you're currently playing? Grinding levels and mantras in DDS2 (not playing frequently), and making my way through Horologium in SJ. Also, how to get Cu Chulainn's fusion? I already did his EX mission and got the item required to fuse him. Is 73 too low a level, or is he a special fusion?
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Behold my Hoy
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>>146191525
Just got to Story 3 of the Evil Spirit Club in Persona Q. That FOE that pops out and laughs actually made me jump. The game is pretty good, I'm really enjoying it.
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>people try to have discussions on the series
>all people respond with his "hoy"
The entire thread may as well be one big hoy. Just make it Hoy General.
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>>146194619
No one responds to discussion with hoy though. It's usually to bump the thread from page 10.
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>>146194619
>Just make it Hoy General

Don't give them ideas.
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>>146191525
Stuck at Ouroboros in SJ. Need to find some demons with agilao.
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>>146194619
What?
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>>146191525
I had a Doppelganger in SJ that had Mediarama and Mana Drain. That motherfucker carried me from Carina all the way to Grus. He also tanked the fuck out of and subsequently killed Ouroboros. What a bro.

I miss him.
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>>146195537
For Ouroboros, make sure you have a gun that has a fire-skill on it, and at least one demon that is the same alignment as you. Or at least 2 demons that are the same alignment as each other. The co-op attack helps deal extra damage and ensures you outdamage Ouroboros's heal. I think Ouroboros uses an electric and heavy-hitting phys skill as well, as well as something that can turn you into stone. Make sure you equip the ring that prevents stone status.
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>>146197051
>tfw there's no equivalent to the SMTIV EXP DLC for Strange Journey so you can have your favorite demons at end game
Maybe there are cheat codes to let you level demons up really fast.
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>>146197320
There already are, as I'm playing SJ through Drastic and there's a cheat code that allows you to multiply EXP anywhere from x2 to x64
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>>146191525
Slowly but surely going through Megami Tensei 2 and Majin Tensei 2. Demons in DDS2 are kicking my ass; I guess I should fuse some good demons and don't underestimate the power of elemental spells in that game. Had to restart Spiral Nemesis once because hidden events.
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>>146198534
>tfw you don't have to sit there for years to grow 5 levels
Guess I'll replay it on my phone instead of playing NG+ on my physical copy.
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>>146200636
Drastic costs about 6 dollars in the Play Store (it's for android), but if you don't want to pay for it, go to emugen's wiki and there's a link to where you can get a free one, as well as the NDS bios files.. Not sure if there's a DS emulator for Apple.
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>>146197051
How are you enjoying that game? It looks really interesting but I was told yesterday it's sort of bland.
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>>146191525
Grinding with Lucy in DeSu1.
Not sure if I should kill him before he has the chance to cast Megidoladyne or if I need to be able to survive that move. Regardless, I need more Vit.
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SMT IF TRANSLATION FINISHED

GO GO GO

> http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif

> http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif

> http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif
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>>146201925
I wouldn't call it bland, but it was kind of boring at points. Especially in terms of gameplay.

The story and setting are really cool, but demon co-op is just a shitty alternative to press turn, and the boss battles were dull and forgettable. The game was also piss easy, even Mem Aleph didn't give me much trouble, maybe it's just cause I've played most of the other MegaTen titles before playing this one, but people always talked up SJ's difficulty and I was kinda disappointed in it.

Still a great game in general though, MegaTen is just good like that, but it's not one of my favorite titles, that's for sure. I can't see myself ever replaying it.
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>>146202665
Nice try
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>>146202797
did you even click it you fucking retard
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>>146202665
I hate you.

And I hate Gideon.
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>>146202959
I did a Q/A back up here >>146109821

But nobody seemed to care.
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>>146202910
Clicking just highlights it
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>>146203228
oh you're smarter than Gideon you cheeky minx xx
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I'm kinda getting an urge to play Persona again. Is the Snow Queen quest worth doing? is it as good as the SEBEC route?
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>>146203796
It's pretty fun. I did a max ambrosia run when I did it, and it was actually pretty challenging, at least at first.

It's worth playing if you like P1 at all.
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>>146203796
>>146204014

I love the Persona 1 love in here <3

I've heard the manga is worth reading, and that it manages to combine the SEBEC and Snow Queen routes into a single, continuous story. Any truth to this, and is it a good read?
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>>146201503
I bought it a few months ago anon. I've been playing the DS Pokemon games on it. Thanks though.
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>>146204486
I have it sitting on my hard drive but haven't read it yet, it doesn't seem to be long though, you should go for it. I really need to get around to reading it when I'm less busy.

I'm redownloading P1 on Vita-chan right now. I'm juggling too many games and shit at once, this ain't gonna be good yo.
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It seems quite biased in this general but should I spend my money on Soul Hackers or on one of these Etrian Odysseys for discounted price? Are these any good?
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>>146205354
I love both. MT is for demon negotiation/fusion/mythology, EO good startpoint for classic wizardry-like dungeon crawlers.
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SH is my favorite MT game by the way
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Well I think I fucked up, can I get a little bit of guidance on Nocturne?

I'm coming back to it after taking a break for a couple of months, and I have absolutely no idea what I'm supposed to be doing next, since being the genius I am I last saved in the Labyrinth of Amala (just poking around in there, got through the first layer I believe) instead of somewhere that might give me an idea of where to go next

I know it's probably not much to go on but I'm around level 30 and I remember fighting Dante before I stopped. If anyone has a clue I'd greatly appreciate it
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>>146205784
Try going to the Mantra HQ in Ikebukuro.
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>>146202681
That was a great response. What would be your favorite then?
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>>146205997
Anything in particular to look for? The guy on 60F is gone, I remember that and just checked.

Thanks by the way
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>>146206734
>The guy on 60F is gone
If I recall right, you should be able to leave through the HQ's back door now, which leads to a new section of the map
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>>146206734
Gozu-Tennoh is gone? Alright, there was a certain exit guarded by two guards on the first floor, look for it, go through there and explore a bit.
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>>146206930
>>146206939
This looks new! Thanks so much guys, back to punching demons then
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>>146207198
No problemo.
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>>146191525
In chapter 2 of Raidou 2. Game is kind of slow. Also just received a notice that #FE is on it's way.
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>>146206560
If I had to pick just one, probably Nocturne, for the gameplay if nothing else.

It's pinnacle of the press turn games in my opinion, with the fusing and stuff from mainline (that was absent in DDS) and without the annoying balance issues that IV had.

Also has my favorite soundtrack.
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>>146208061
Sweet! I just got into the MT games having picked up IV during the sale, and I definitely wanna play Nocturne next. Do you have a favorite of the first-person dungeon crawlers?
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>>146203796
Do the max ambrosia run for the SQQ. Fuck the Casino RNG and just use cheats to give yourself coins for the tablets, otherwise you could be playing for 30+ hours before you even begin the SQQ.
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>>146208521
Favorite first person one is definitely SMT I. It's pretty dated but if you can get past that, its atmosphere and OST are amazing. I normally play MegaTen for the gameplay, demon collecting and battles and such, but I love I for its story and themes.

I still haven't played Soul Hackers though, I need to get on that.
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>>146205340
You have the full manga? Please upload and share, anon
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>>146209126
>mfw I did the casino grind legit

Never again.

>>146209248
/pg/ have it in their pastebin, it's missing chapter 1 though, you'll have to get that off of Managfox or somewhere.
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>>146209162
Best version? SNES with the translation and bug fixes?
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>>146209162
Why did Gabriel/YHVH choose Law Hero to be the Messiah, again?
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>>146209598
Play it on iOS if you can. It's an upgrade in almost every way. The visionary items are nice too, since they add scenes that aren't in the SNES version.
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>>146209598
Unless you have an Iphone the SNES version is the only option you have. I haven't played the IOS one so I can't comment on it, but the SNES version is perfectly fine.
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>>146209602
Because of his selfless actions and the main thing was his sacrifice in Roppongi.
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>>146210581
His character arc was weird.
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>>146209248
The full thing is on Kissmanga. I read it there and loved it, despite the shit ton of typos.
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>>146210786
Thanks anon. I hate how everywhere else is missing volume 1 and/or 8.
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>>146210754
Everything in that game is weird
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>>146211269
I know, it's great.
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>>146211269
>>146211357
I tried explaining Digital Devil Saga to a friend. Told them about the people in the junkyard and how it never stopped raining, how they turned into demons and had to turn to cannibalism, and that they were actually just AI programs, about how Sera is the daughter of a hermaphrodite, everyone dies, god is a train, etc. and they said it was the weirdest shit they'd heard about.
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Is smt the most anthropological series ever created?
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>>146213046
No
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>>146209598
iOS or PS.
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>>146216495
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>>146217019
Why is there a sword embedded in Law Hero's head?
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No more hoy bumps. Post nice artwork instead.
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>>146157645
I never hear a munching sound when i did it, but no matter the choice the kids are fucked. The Dis even laughs about how fucked they are if Tokyo is destroyed and their overfarming people for Reds
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>>146212750
Fuck
I just started DDS too
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>>146220090
Why would you even read that?
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>>146221653
I didn't mean to
I was just browsing the thread, since I just woke up
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>>146221817
Argilla is best girl
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>>146220090
Serph is a mad scientist with a god complex and the true villain.
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>>146222301
Silent MC is what?
I don't understand
Please don't feel like you have to explain though
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>>146220090
Serph is the killer.
Gale likes futa and is the real MC.
Heat is the real good guy.
Why the fuck is Cielo in this game.
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>>146223034
Your copy of this game is messed up
Cielo is the MC
Heat is the futa
Gale is a manikin
Why the fuck is Serph in this game?
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>>146222968
The american serph scientist was a madman out to use sera to become god. Scientist heat opposed him but was killed by nurse argilla who serph manipulated

God despaired so much from this after feeling seras emotions he turned the sun black and made serph into a demon.

God is not YHVH and most of the second game is in america.
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>>146223034
>Gale likes futa and is the real MC.
This is the only correct point.
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>>146222243
Heat hs better hips
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MAN'S GREATEST GLIMPSE OF FIRE RED
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>>146230862
I don't get it.
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>>146230965

right to left
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>>146231062
I know.
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>>146230965
ghost dad
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>>146231195
>dad
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How long is SMTIV? I just beat the Minotaur and got to Tokyo. This game is fucking rad.
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>>146167784
A new Devil Survivor would be nice.
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>>146234330
you're like 1/8 - 1/4 of the way through if you don't explore and know exactly where to go, otherwise it's more like 1/10 of the way through, or maybe 1/3 of the way through for a white ending

white took me 31 hr 41 min
law as a second run in NG+ took 25 hr 36 min

I did a few side quests on both runs too, even did pale rider and black rider for the law run (albeit that doesn't add to the run's length because of the whole save re-loading thing), the white run was without a guide

going for chaos next, then nuetral
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>>146167784
DDS3 bringing futa to PS4.
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Don't die.
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>>146170989
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welcome to my virtual reality
do you like it?
I made it so you could die here
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>>146242783
ahhh kojiroooo
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How do I reject one more God?
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>>146244831
Suck off a futa.
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>>146244831
You just punch him in the face.
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>>146246141
But where is he?
>>146244964
Stop posting Mara.
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Is 神は死んだ ever used in Final's script?
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does anyone have good shot of the original Walter design?
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>red pills
I just fucking got this, fucking hell I'm retarded
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>>146248925
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>>146249176
Was Walter supposed to be the reincarnation of Akira?
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>>146249176
thanks friend
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*drops a bead on the thread*
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Wake up.
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Hoy.
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When is Final?
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>>146223034
I wonder if they got the inspiration for the plot twist from Knights of the Old Republic or is there a game with "you were the bad guy all along" -twist before that?
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Only played smt1 and I really enjoyed it, especially the soundtrack and no bullshit gameplay. Given that which would I like better, smt IV or soul hackers? I've been staying away from modern jrpgs since I got weeb baited with fire emblem awakening
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>>146255348
Pretty sure there are cave paintings with a twist like that. Video games aren't the only medium with story telling, my friend.
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>>146255401
>and no bullshit gameplay
Don't play IV.
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>>146255472
I love condescend with your superior knowledge in said mediums yet don't offer any examples.
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>>146255401
I think IV might be closer in atmosphere and has a better soundtrack with nice callbacks to I, but Soul Hackers is closer gameplaywise.
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>>146255401
>I've been staying away from modern jrpgs
Obviously SH. IV and Final are SMT as modern JRPGs (modern = casual, character driven, including a lot anime tropes)
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>>146255690
Wait, thinking about it. This applies to SH too, the tropes are older ones at least. Gameplay is a little bit better too.
Either way, you're doomed.
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>>146255690
Honestly Soul Hackers is more "anime" than IV if you ask me. Sure they're older anime tropes, but it's full of more of them than IV which mostly relies on SMT I and II parallels. Not counting Final of course.
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*smirks*
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>>146255871
I agree but IV was already heavily influenced Navarre, Isabeau's obsession, etc, Final is a lot worse.
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>>146256089
The only ones that stuck out to me were Navarre, Isabeau's hobby, and the Yaso-Magatsuhi scene. Navarre stops mattering really quickly and Isabeau is almost as irrelevant as he is. And then it's just a one minute scene. Didn't seem that bad to me, at least there was some restraint. Final on the other hand...
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Hoy.
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>>146255871
Nah, don't you know that those things are cool now. Only modern anime is uncool.
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>>146258884
It may be cool, but it's still a very anime game. My post wasn't meant as an insult to Soul Hackers.
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>>146256280
Isabeau's dick sucking in general. And the stronger focus on characters is also new to mainline (not its spin-offs).
But yeah, can't think of anything else. My view was probably affected by Final.
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>>146259119
How bad is FINAL?
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>>146259119
Isabeau didn't feel all that present to me, I can't think of all that much dick sucking from her outside of the neutral route. But yeah, the game is more focused on its characters for mainline. Still on the light side compared to other modern JRPGs, but you're right. Your view might be skewed by Final, but I could also be on the lenient side since I'm fairly used to late night anime trash in games and filter it out.
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>>146259440
>I'm fairly used to late night anime trash in games and filter it out

Such as?

I think i have some idea, but, i want to hear it from you.
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>>146167784
Majin Tensei 1 + 2 remakes for a true Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem experience.
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>>146260274
Mostly characters being excessively clingy and into the protagonist for no major reason. There's other tired stuff from harem and battleshounen, like having a harem in the first place, modern stock backgrounds/personalities/archetypes (tsundere love interest for example), fanservice that feels out of place even if it's "justified", overemphasis on the importance of friendship, etc which I can handle to an extent too, but not like the first. Final did it too much.
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>>146249176
Why does Walter remind me of Mexicans? Is it because Jimenez was Mexican and they're both Chaos aligned?
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>>146260808
He's also somewhat tanned and associated with the word hoy.
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>>146260858
He's also a filthy casualry.
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>>146261007
He's filthier than Tokyo.
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>>146260756
Exactly the problems i have with in anime and most JRPGS.

That and the nips boner for swords over guns.
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>>146261235
Try watching Serial Experiments Lain, Ergo Proxy, Casshern Sins, Paranoia Agent, Texhnolyze, etc. anon, I'm sure you'll enjoy them more than the typical everyday anime.
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>>146261437
>tfw no ABe character designs for an SMT spinoff
Haibane Renmei especially was beautiful.
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Hoy.
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I know this has been talked before, but are Orden's Spanish translations of SMT I and SMT II good or at least bearable? Almost every single Spanish fantranslation on the Internet, be it a fansub, romhack or whatever, is utter trash of broken spelling and overly literal translations, but I want to play without the stupid bugs from the English patch. Also I haven't really seen anything from his translations, but I heard he translated or changed several names. Why?
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OK, so I'm 52 hours into SJ. I don't have the demons needed to beat MA, and was planning on buying the ones from the GameFAQs guide, but holy shit, expensive. Where is best place to grind for macca? Currently grinding for forma in the Horologium to get the Dragon Ring, I missed the Dragon Armor for the record.
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>>146265874
What bugs are there in the English patched version?
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>>146260808
I thought Jimenez was American?
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>>146266984
What level?
Whenever I had money problems I just sold whatever enemy search forma I accumulated, they give lots of cash when selling.
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>>146268370
I think I'm about 75-78, at work so I can't check for certain. Trying to grind to 80 so I can summon the mega-demons but it's like 2 billion macca for all of them... I was planning to get the Dragon Ring and maybe the White Album app then selling off the rest of my forma.
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>>146268463
Grab Huang Long when you can, he's a special fusion and one of the best choices for endgame demons.
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>>146269595
Cool I will try that, it would save me something like 600,000 macca to fuse instead of buy. I might just save for King Frost.
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Is the Bandou Shrine in Nocturne harder than Tower of Kagutsuchi? I don't want to grind for all the macca to afford the remaining Magatma; gaining xp and then going to Bandou Shrine and leveling up there too and being overleveled for Tower of Kagutsuchi.
btw its my first playthrough
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>>146271109
>Is the Bandou Shrine in Nocturne harder than Tower of Kagutsuchi?
No
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>>146275247
I guess its time to grind macca, I just didnt want to overlevel myself for the tower.
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Hoy.
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>>146277370
#KillAllHoy
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>>146265874
>>146267157
The Spanish translations are apparently great. The SMT 1 is the same as his English fix. The SMT 2 bugs in the English are too many to name but mainly having to do with inventory and negotiations.
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>>146273319
ayy
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Apocalypse when
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Hoy.
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Who seriously thought alignment spikes were a good idea? I'm playing SMT I and am wanting to go neutral. Said no to helping that Chaos leader in Ikebukuro, and am now outside a boss fight and can't use most of my demons because they're all chaos. Wasn't a problem when I was neutral, but I got spiked up to law.

Stupid design.
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>>146283329
>Why are Chaos demons not agreeing with my shitty neuter ideology?!
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Why do people meme that SJ is the most perfect infallible SMT game

And why do people fall for it
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>>146284672
It's actually
>My chaos demons don't mind my neutral ideology, but they hate me for being a victim of shit game design.

If it's not obvious, they hate me because I'm now law.

Admittedly the boss is piss, but so is every boss considering you can just electrocute them.
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>>146285081
I was going to give SJ a next, since I'm going through DeSu right now; could you elaborate?
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>>146285269
Are you really implying that Chaos demons hating you after you took a shit on their leader is stupid game design?
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>>146283329
Fuse them. You'll be able to change your alignment soon anyway.
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>>146285435
I dunno man, people wank to the map of Sector E and praise the music and battle system, and although SJ has some solid dungeons, I think the music is pretty lacking and the battle system is just Etrian Oddyssey with alignment gimmick. SJ isn't terrible but it's not exactly a stand-out title.

I mean, I liked it enough to get all 3 endings but goddamn if I wasn't sick of the unskippable scenes and back-tracking and some of the fetch-quests.
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>>146285686
>>146285081
That doesn't make it a meme game, it makes YOU a meme player.
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>>146286071
Don't ever talk to me or my dog ever again.
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>>146286071
Nobody said it's a meme game, just a meme opinion. You should all kill yourselves for using meme so much anyway, fuck that word.
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>>146286132
Did I strike a nerve?
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>>146286254
>Null Nerve
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>>14628642
Sheeeeit
This whole time I thought it was just a wasted slot
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>be playing SJ
>try to recruit Titania
>What do you feel when you look at me?
>joy
>oh, that's good
>proceed to nearly kill me
>second try
>come closer
>end up poisoned

What's this bitch's problem?
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>>146288810
So tsun tsun.
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>>146285439
Chaos or law demons shouldn't join you if you're neutral at all then. Why allow them to join you, if you're going to be neutral anyway. Either there shouldn't have been an alignment spike, or you shouldn't have been able to use demons that aren't your alignment to begin with.

Either way - shit design.
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>>146285081
Hipsters.
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>>146288935
>Chaos or law demons shouldn't join you if you're neutral at all then.
I agree but you have to admit that there's a difference between being just a neuter faggot who might change his mind and a guy who just shat on your alignment leader.

Either way - delicious butt hurt coming from your posts.
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I want to do lewd things to Holy Zelenin.
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>>146289239
How am I butthurt? Is pointing out shit design really telling of being butthurt? If you complain about a part of a game you're 'butthurt'?

As I said, it annoyed me because there is a boss straight after the alignment change. Thankfully the boss was easy. If it was a difficult boss and you couldn't summon a demon, the game gas completely fucked you out of all those hours you've spent on the game. There's no way to leave the area, no way to fuse demons - there's no way out of it.

I'm still preferring SMT I to IV by a good bit, and I'd say the best part of SMT I for me is better than all of my playthrough in Nocturne. I still prefer Nocturne though.
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>>146289667
>Is pointing out shit design really telling of being butthurt?
I'm telling you it's not shit design. It makes sense and is a reasonable consequence for your actions.
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>>146289953
How is it not shit design? There's no telling it's coming up, and there's no way out of it once it happens. It has the potential to not effect you, and it also has the potential to make you lose who knows how much progress. Even presuming you have a save close by that you can reload, you then have to go to completely reorganize your party.

Having Steven be able to fuse demons for you would some what alleviate the problem, or just having a teleporter. There's none of that though, so you can be left completely fucked.
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>>146191525
I'm up to day 6 in Record Breaker. Been taking it pretty slowly. Got Al's FATE up to 4, probably gonna go for his route since I found it the most fun when I played vanilla on my DS.
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>>146290374
That's why you use Neutral demons you nigger. If you're planning on going Neutral anyways, there shouldn't be a problem. The game shouldn't prevent you from using Law and Chaos demons if you're Neutral, you should be smart enough to have demons of all alignments, especially Neutral, if you're going for the Neutral path.
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>>146291647
What a trustable fellow.
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>>146291950
fellho
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>>146291451
Why? If you are going neutral then there's no good reason to only have demons of certain alignments - the game doesn't penalize you for using demons of different alignments when neutral, in fact it's pretty much an advantage for neutral players.

The issue is quite clearly the random forced alignment change, with no opportunity to adjust to it for the next boss fight.

How can you not see the issue? I know people like to defend their favourite games, but defending this is absurd.
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>>146292383
>If you are going neutral then there's no good reason to only have demons of certain alignments - the game doesn't penalize you for using demons of different alignments when neutral, in fact it's pretty much an advantage for neutral players.
Seriously? Are you that dense?
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>>146292549
No? All you are doing is insulting me despite not being able to give me any substance at all.

If it is an advantage of neutral aligned players to be able to use demons of all alignments, then there is no reason for neutral aligned players to build their party in a certain way.

The issue is the ALIGNMENT SPIKE you fucking idiot. The game moves you to an alignment automatically that limits demons you can use. It can completely fuck over neutral aligned players that previously had no reason to care what alignment their demons were.
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>>146293113
>The issue is the ALIGNMENT SPIKE you fucking idiot
No, the issue is you being a whiny faggot. You complain about "shitty game design" because there's an intended risk for being a neutral player which not only does at least somewhat lessen the neutral pandering but also makes a lot sense in the game world.
You write shit like
>If it is an advantage of neutral aligned players to be able to use demons of all alignments, then there is no reason for neutral aligned players to build their party in a certain way.
As if neutral players have the right to use alignment demons without a drawback. Nowhere in the game is mentioned that it has the obligation to kiss your ass when you're neutral.

>It can completely fuck over neutral aligned players that previously had no reason to care what alignment their demons were.
This is how the alignment system works, if caring about demon alignment (and not having a guarantee that you'll never have to when you're neutral) is that much of an issue for you, only play the new ones where they pander to guys like you.
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How much Mastema is too much?
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