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Consumed by the abyss:
>>145371543

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>How to get autosummon covenants to work on PC:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg
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In for poise.
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nth for working poise for consoles only
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>it's a "farron flashsword user only attacks with L1" episode
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5th for dark souls 3 is as unfinished as the previous titles
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>>145397363
What was she talking about and mean when she says something about fires are known to fade in quiet and about some girl be a captive?
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Will we ever get the ability to play as the big guys?
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Xth for Thrall Souls 3
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>dying over and over to 4kids
so do I poisestack or do I roll attacks
because at this point I'm dying in one hit naked and five hits in full Golem's
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>>145397486

How?
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>>145397597
Captive girl could refer to the firekeeper, or another of the many firekeepers, one of which has eyes you retrieve from the dark timeline.
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>>145397695
either, not both
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>>145397567
But that's all you can do with Flashsword.
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>>145397697
Collector's edition
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>>145397786
How good is midroll in this game again? I've completely and utterly fogotten
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>>145397754
Who exactly is this fire keeper who peered into the darkness? Did they lock her away because of what she saw?
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>>145397906

Pretty good in NG, even fat roll is not bad.
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>>145397695
>full golem's
no excuse for this

just get up close in their leafy pubes and r1 mash, they do much less damage point blank
equip crest shield for the explosion and projectile
use power within if you're really hopeless
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>>145397906
It's meh.

There's a reason ninja-flippers ruled the roost before they nerfed it.
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>>145398051
I'm doing an Iron Golem cosplay and trying to get the orb. I last did this three years ago. I don't have any items apart form a couple of sets of armour and my axe
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>>145397654
It would be extremely painful
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>>145397906
there's a reason absolutely everyone fastrolls in DaS1

>>145398295
then just mash 2hr1 and fatroll my man
block the magic with your axe
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>>145397253
Can anyone help me with Nameless King?

Fuck solo beating a two boss in one, the dragon is so tedious it puts me off learning the King's attacks properly once he's on foot.

SL80
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>>145398521
Just poison the dragon with storyteller's staff.
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>>145398521
Booting up the Commodore 64
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>tolerating attention whore tripfags
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>>145398016
I remember some talk about betrayal, it's possible that she was a firekeeper to another of the unkindled that went ahead and fucked everything up, maybe even helping him. Because of this, the eyes hold the secret to the betrayal ending.

Though, that is assuming that Gundyr wasn't the only unkindled to awake in that timeline, but instead the last. Another possibility entirely is that there was some sort of plot from within the system that locked away the firekeeper, betrayed everyone and kept gundyr from awakening with the bell not tolling till it was too late. We find what remains of the hidden away firekeeper behind an illusory wall, where she died alone and betrayed.
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>it's a "host has three phantoms AND two reds in his ganksquad" episode
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How are you this afternoon, /dsg/
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>>145397293
You gotta run back after attacking once or twice m8, they'll stop attacking if you're far enough.

Charge in, attack, run out, charge in, rinse and repeato

best of luck
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>>145399118
I could actually hear Wake Me Up Inside playing while watching that webm
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>>145398879
Password is: dragondildo

I'm
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Is it safe to fugg Rosaria?
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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=663922936

Any texture mods yet?
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>>145399438
Sure, if you wanna become a phallis shaped grub.
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>yfw accidentally poise-trade a boss
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>>145399534
Worth it
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>clapping with fellow aldritch gankers over dead hosts

the best
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>>145399404
actually, just do dragondi
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>>145399438
gwynevere is that grub she's holding
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>>145399653
ck
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is dark wood grain ring actually useful or are these ninja flips just a meme
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>>145400035
More iframes, less recovery frames.
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is there a way to dislike a video without giving it a view?
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>>145400035

It's too good.
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>>145399823
You put your sign down by the bonfire?
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>>145400126
i don't think views even count unless you watch a certain %
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>>145400126

don't watch it
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how much end would be good to stop if i plan on using warden twin blades or oni and uba?
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Are there any low profile/lightweight helms with a darkish tint to them? Ive been using the assassins mask but I think I'm over it
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>>145400035
Normal rolls have 12 iframes and 12 recovery frames.

Flips have 14 iframes and 8 recovery frames.

So 2 more iframes and 2 less total frames.
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>tfw only sony can save e3 now
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>>145400035
DWGR removes your instability frames during rolls, gives your backstep sufficient i-frames to dodge with, hugely reduces recovery time, and allows you to get away safely after getting backstabbed.

It is absolutely useful.
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>>145400301
My preferred End breakpoints are 14-19 if I'm playing a caster that doesn't use weapons much, 24 for regular weapons and 40 for Great weapons
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Alright senpaitachi, i feel like making a mound-maker today. What are some ideas for fun, but not completely shit, weapons/spells that an absolute madman can use?
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SL110 here need only 10 levels for the meta can anyone drop me some souls on the PC?
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>>145400301
what sl? 19 at 80 or you can do 20+ at sl120 easily
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Ugh, fuck the early game of DaS2. Starting out with cripplingly low stats is annoying enough without early game shields being shit in general (Exception to Large Leather Shield), and dodging is a joke without agility.
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i want a souls bf
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>>145398521
>stay near the dragons head and make sure you either stay close enough to hit or use something with range
>dodge obvious attacks
>riposte
>watch beef angus cut scene
>look for NK telegraphs and figure out timing to dodge
>beat him to death

There you go champ
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>>145400562
dang, so now that i have havel's ring and dwgr do i even need anything else if i'm going quality claymore?
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>>145400682
Just rush the Drangleic shield and the estoc and craftsman hammer
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>>145400671
I just want to invade regularly and use either weapons. Idk where to go with stats to be honest.
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>>145400462
https://twitter.com/ZhugeEX/status/742448744398999552
according to this cuck they should
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>ACTION QUEUES
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>>145401021
i'd love a mod to stop this
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>>145400804
You could always replace Havel's with FaP for more health and stamina. Though be advised that you can't remove the FaP ring without losing it, and you'll need to min/max to really make it work:

http://mmdks.com/88h7
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If you don't meet the FAI requirements to use the ASS, is it still worth it to use it raw?

Or should I just get the necessary points and re allocate attributes later?
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>>145401021
This is the real reason I can't go back to DaS1
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>onlyafro, who is reddit personified, is a mod in the /dsg/ steam group
>said group is willingly promoted in the OP of every thread

fucking horrible, how can we make this general great again
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>4-man the Champ
>His back kick hits all 4

Sweet champion....
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>>145400608
Mad farmer, use harpe(or man serpent hatchet for a good alternative) and the five prolonged.
Go into a grassy area and keep hitting the ground until you "notice" the host.
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>>145401267
Wasn't he here like five years ago already? Probably seniority reasons.
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Anyone got a spare pike lying around on pc?
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>>145401450
Meet me at highwall, dsg
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>>145397567
don't you mean farron greatsword
also just parry it
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>>145397695
Do you have a +15 weapon yet?
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>>145401267
He doesn't use reddit though.
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>>145401267
sounds like you're a regular there

also steamgroup links in OP exists for multiple game threads, they're harmless.
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>>145401450
booting up my gameboy color
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>>145401267
That's only because if you remove it from the OP, they come in and start shitting up the threads in general.
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>>145401642
lmao lucy
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>DaS 1 is an unoptimized piece of shit
>People excuse this because From literally did not think about porting until after the game was developed
>DaS 2 was fairly well optimized, Runs like butter
>DaS 3 is an unoptimized piece of shit

Please explain to me what the hell happened to the DaS 2 port team?
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>>145399326
Really? You heard this?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcrbM1l_BoI
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>>145401582
This joke only works if they didn't include a platform in their post, memelord.
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Can I CE a bigger name than allowed normally in 3?
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>>145401642
Wait, I'm lost. Are we talking about steam group or /bbg/?
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>>145401857
no
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>>145401758
He meant this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfyNnUgK8qE
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>>145401532
Thanks, the guys in Crucifixion didn't want to drop me a pike.

>>145401582
Thanks, but I've got a pike now.
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>>145401736
Tanimura's team had all the wrong priorities. Bet they were assigned to that Monster Hunter spinoff.
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>>145401929
The Steam Group. This section:

">/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg"

Has no reason to be in the OP.
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Is using the Lothric Holy Sword considered "cheap"?
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Why is Oroboro such a faggot ?
also I saw him using legion's gesture
this is ironic right ? right ?
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>>145402345
No one cares Peeve
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Do people actually use the playerlist thing?

It sounds useful if its an editable google doc for public instead of pming this one guy to get your info on
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>>145402212
But all of this is /dsg/ related. Bloodborne is not. You seem confused.
>>145402245
It's actually considered terrible
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10478415
http://www.strawpoll.me/10478415
http://www.strawpoll.me/10478415
http://www.strawpoll.me/10478415
Event date poll

Protect the pope won the poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/10420873/r

>>145401857
no
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>>145402345
You just noticed?

I remember his peak of cancer was back in DaS2 with dark chaos blade and pre patch GRS.

Goodness lord i don't even know how the fuck people stand his videos/streams for more than 3 seconds.
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>>145402436
>(you)
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>>145402447
wooo
my pope will be done by then
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>>145402447
>Gank sqauds won
NICE
MEME
E
M
E
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>>145402412
Hasn't been updated since forever.
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>respec into pure faith (no melee weapon equipped)
>summon duel
>run out of mana, use blue estus to continue fighting
>opponent claps, drains his estus and BC's out
???????????????????
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WHERE IS THE NEW MARCUS [ENB] EPISODE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145402543
any help for rules and SL and such btw?
Should phantoms have a specific theme or should we let them be free.

I think around 60 +6/+7 would be best for hosts to get invaded no?

>>145402574
so gimp yourself to make it harder?
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So UGS are pvp only then? (if you prefer that playstyle)
Because certain bosses are just an absolute pain in the butt and when you do them with small weapons you breeze through it like it's nothing. The damage per swing isn't even much lower.
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>>145402589
>i should be able to use estus to fuel my intentionally limited magic

you sip i sip kid

but now i think i'll just bc out since you're obviously a thirsty shitter
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>>145402703
Pajamas only
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>>145402589
I've been pvp'ing on pure magic characters for awhile and that seems to be a rarity. I doubt very many people care if you blue estus or not. Using healing miracles however will get black crystals, estusing, and jumping off of cliffs.
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>Poise Enabled
>Absorption of medium armor reduced
>Absorption of light armor reduced
>Cost of rolling, back stepping and running increased
>Vitality reduces cost of rolling, back stepping and running
>FP Cost on offensive miracles reduced
>Damage falloff for miracles removed
>Endurance cost on Sorceries, Pyromancies and Miracles reduced
>New Casting tool weapon art added to dramatically increase spell travel speed but lower possible damage.
>Your life will now stay at what ever percentage it was before or after life total changing effects were applied or removed.
>Equipped rings will not grant their benefit for 10 seconds after equipping
>Equipped weapons will have their damage reduced for 10 seconds after equipping
>Parrying window reduced, stamina loss on failed parry reduced
>Shield stability for medium shields increased
>Shield stability for great shields increased
>Shield breaker weapon arts damage increased vs shields
>Knight Slayer's ring effect raised from 10% to 20% extra stamina damage to blocking targets
>Removed reduced scaling effects against targets in pvp on equipment
>Increased stamina recovery for those under 30% equip load
>Buffed under performing Boss Soul weapons
>Sped up many weapon arts with long windups, added more recovery frames to compensate

I think that would pretty much be my dream patch.
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>>145402841
>use blue estus
>opponent immediately stops and uses normal estus

FUCK
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>>145402725
You use UGS in pve the same way you use them in pvp, by spamming the roll attack.
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>>145402436
>Bloodborne is not.
Bloodborne is a Souls game, and this is a general for Souls games.
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>>145403069
you're a souls game
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>>145402841
Luckily I don't use healing miracles anyways, only tear of denial. I really do wish some of the longer miracles were harder to interrupt when close to their release, like UGS's.
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>>145403056
Can get 2 swings with a small weapon in by the time I finish one roll attack.
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Did the carthus sword nerf even do anything?
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If you're going to be this inept, don't even bother joining the covenant.

>that cringe damage

SL50+6 invasions are truly the best.
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>>145403389
Less tracking, supposedly more recovery after the second swing but I'm not noticing shit.
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I did it!
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>>145402997
>you actually wrote this
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damn this bitch is persistent
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DLC WHEN
I'm getting bored of the game already, only thing to look forward to is the dsg events
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>>145403442
>dorkmoon knightess
>invader
???
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>>145403475
Congrats here a (you)
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>>145403254
Why not just use regular/canvas talisman weapon art to cast them? With the miracle enhancing rings they do pretty solid damage and won't be interrupted. You can even have Bellvine chime in the other hand to speed them up unless you're already using Sage +2.
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>>145403528
darkmoons gotta keep the sentinels in line
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>>145403528
Can't get a blue summon, just improvise.
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>>145402512
I liked him when he would be a cheesy faggot "ironically" for hatemail because I love hatemail.
Bingo videos are good too, but otherwise he's becoming less impressive and more faggoty.
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>>145403483
Was bored at work, hoped maybe there'd be a you thrown at me or some discussion besides whining about invasions.
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http://pastebin.com/jqKQj426
We good or not?
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Blighttown + Quelaag's Domain are the worst areas in the entire series
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>>145403881

izalith is worse than both of those

blighttown isnt even bad unless you played on console
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>>145402997
>Equipped rings will not grant their benefit for 10 seconds after equipping

I hope you realise you're hurting a lot of things just because hornet.
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it's a shame that room before Rosaria never became a dueling spot
make invader spawn nearby, remove man grubs and it would be way better than a fucking pontiff that gives too much space
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>tfw releaved to be done with DS2 so I can finally play DS3
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>>145403605
I'm using a sunlight talisman which seems to have the same effect as the canvas talisman. How does the bellvine chime speed them up? The description says "Skill: Gentle Prayer
Recovers HP for a period of time, albeit extremely slowly. Works while equipped in either hand."
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>>145402997
>>Shield stability for great shields increased

LOL

are you serious dude
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>>145403881
That's not Duke's Archives or Shrine of Amana.
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>>145402997
thank fucking god most of this will never happen, this list is beyond terrible and you should feel bad for even wasting your time on it faggot
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>>145403881
I didn't die a single time in Blighttown, I don't understand this
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>accidentally bump on Leonard
>he uses a shotel instead of his Crescent Moon Sword
Deepest
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>>145402703
>>145402831
pope should be pope pajamas with non damaging spells/weapons
funny/annoying stuff like un upgraded dragon short short weapon art spam
force and aural decoy spam.
chime bashing and other stupid stuff
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>>145404304
you're a god dodging toxic darts at 10fps
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>>145404363
It's called ranged battle
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You guys ever try leaving this door closed and luring invaders down into the hole for a cage match?
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>>145404340
so he DOES have two shotels
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>>145404045
Ring swapping goes against the spirit of the game and this is in no way targeting just the hornet ring, i have no problem with the hornet ring existing.
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>>145404130
The Bellvine Chime passively gives a casting speed buff even if you use a different catalyst in the other hand. Also, what is hitting you so hard that it's beating Sunlight Talisman poise?
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>>145404446
>dark souls
>ranged
good jest fellow
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Anyone on PC willing to drop/savescum a couple ng++ rings for me?
I only need favor+2 and life+3
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>>145404512
I think they can open some doors.
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>>145404182
I'd say about 4-5 fully upgraded, although if vitality was actually a good stat worth investing into you might not need to buff GS stability.
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>>145404512
i was summoned as a darkmoon once by guys doing a cosplay dried finger run, chased invader here and got stuck
host and phantom started luring invaders towards the hole where i was already waiting for them with warden twinblades and full thorn set for some painful time together
that was fun as fuck
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>>145404663
Doesn't matter, you can't open that one from the outside. They'd still have to drop down and then open it.
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FUCKING SKELETONS REEEE
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>>145404765
Only the host can open that door anyways, so its a pretty handy prison if a phantom gets stuck in there.
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>>145404301
Why, enjoying your dueling meta where people just circle each other waiting for the other to fuck up so they can win because everyone blows up in 4 hits?
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>>145404661
sure thing, where you at?
and pass?
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>>145404547
I'd be fine with life ring swapping being fixed, but I don't see the issue with any other kind of ringswap.
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>>145404818
What self respecting 'paladin' can't handle a couple skeletons anyway
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Is there any kind of special note when using hollow weapons? Or just pump luck and have fun?
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>>145404610
>he chooses to bash his head against a wall instead of just beating it
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>when the fifth king spawns and kills you with a thrust attack from offscreen
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>>145404964
I miss 4kings. I wish Watchers were harder and later in the game so they could be comparably difficult.
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>>145404818
>skeleton lords
>not the easiest fight after the undead clergy
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>>145404856
Biggest problem I have with it is fucking invaders even more because it nerfs obscuring/cat.
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>>145404841
your shitty "changes" will only do everything worse
>he wants to buff the fucking greatshields
never show your face here you piece of trash
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>>145404846
I'll go over to the high wall bonfire but has to be a red sign if I'm summoning
password: bling
thanks
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>>145404856
Red tearstone, hornet, sun princess, lloyd's sword-shield ring, i've even seen ppl swap aldritch's rings for maximum tryhardness.
They've added that grace period for swapping exactly for that.
Sure,ring swaps may look cool on video, but ultimately they're very unbalanced towards the receiving end.
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>>145404856
Removing the life ring granting you another use of lloyd's rings, putting on resist rings as soon as you see a caster, bleed ring vs bleed users. Some people put on Leo rings if they see a weapon they can beat with counter attack trading.
Should be penalized in some way.
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>>145404894
Tbqh honest this game has been a total breeze so far, I'm already at Earthen peak after beating the lost sinner
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I'm making a sorcerer for invasions and the occasional dorkmoon summon but want to avoid the SL 120 quality meta. Would SL 80 be a good spot? Lower? Higher?
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/42105
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So, why do BKs and the doll show up in the asylum when you go back? The demon and ring make sense, but is there any reason besides time is convoluted?
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>Tfw only have fun with major meme builds
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>>145403475
>taking the easy way out
Real men go for the Leo Ring.
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>>145405306
watch matthewmatosis' video
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>>145405239
Bleed ring doesn't give you instant bleed resist. The extra bleed resist has to empty out of the status bar first.
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>>145405280
>avoid the SL 120 quality meta
you will get assfucked by sl100 quality meta regardless so i don't see a reason to be such a coward
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When is FROM going to give us Titles if they aren't going to increase characters

Like an equippable title that you can earn in some way that adds shit to your name

So if your name was "Poop" you could get a title that changed it to "Poop, the exile"
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>>145405438
You still get it from killing vanilla 'stein, don't you?
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>>145405479
>watching a boring youtube video from some faggot instead of having a fun discussion with anons

Please no.
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>>145405124
Fucking make me shit eater, pvp sucks ass right now because the only way to fucking play is 40\40 quality builds due to everyone being made of cotton fucking candy.

Using shields of any sort just gets you guard broken raped by horse kicks and spamming attacks into shields because for some ASININE reasons it costs more to block an attack now than to do one. Raising a shield is like a free invitation to be critically hit.

Shield's like Glory and Yhrom's are fine, but other great shields are ass because they weigh near 20 and have shit stability. Medium shields are a joke.
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>>145405597
Or poop the [KNIGHT] in uncensored glory
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>>145405681
Knight
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>>145405736
K***ght
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>>145404363
Self-toxifying with Dung Pies are a thing.

>>145404610
With the low requirements for even wielding a bow, I don't see why you don't provide yourself the option.
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>>145405597
>want to make a repentent-witch character
>can't fit it, and just repentent is a bit too generic
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>>145405756
the point is that we'd actually get to use it properly
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>>145405636
Nope. Leo Ring only drops if you take on big Ornstein.
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>>145405882
>3kat
>not 7kat
Nothing personnel
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>>145405882
ALT+255 get with it Cuck
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>>145405661
>i can't turtle behind my shield forever
good
get fucked
>>
So now that 2kats are viable, can dual hollow 4kats be a thing?
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>>145405947
>Unmatching sheaths
2/10
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>>145405946
Used to be the opposite before patches, Ornstein had a chance to drop once per playthrough, so you'd kill him first, check if it dropped, then bone out.
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>>145406043
>now that they are viable
they were always completely usable except for the weapon art you POSER
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>>145405597
You'll be a K***ht getting invaded by dark spirit NiggerMelon and like it, fiilthy gaijen.
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>>145405661
>I want to turtle behind my shield!
Please learn how to pvp before thinking this is a good idea.
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>>145405359
Shit that's a nice cosplay. I was gonna post the sentence but I saw the filename.
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>hiding in farron swamp with way of the blue dried finger
>nobody can find me for 20 minutes already
>mfw looking at that immense clusterfuck of all colors
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>>145405503
that's why you put it on as soon as you see them carthus rogue, and if they're not using the buff they probably won't bleed you out before you die anyway
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>>145405306
Pretty sure it's because the doll is the key to enter a place where a very dangerous god killing cutie lives and Gwyn don't want none of that shit
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>>145405994
Not that guy, but rolling in DaS3 is hardly more skillful and also stronger than blocking in many ways.
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>>145405994
>>145406413
>40\40 quality babies on suicide watch
I'd love to read your tears if any of that happened.
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>>145406692
it's like you faggots don't know the actual top tier builds right now
spoiler: almost all of them are using black knight and havel shields and for a very good reasons
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>>145406694
>a 40/40 can't also have a greatshield
A 120 "build" can still carry a greatshield with 40 endurance and 40/40, stop crying.
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>>145406830
Yes, because they haven't run up against someone with half a fucking brain to kickspam them with horsehoof on for free wins.
You cant drop your shield faster than the kick connects so don't even make that excuse you shitter.
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>>145406830
...because they are the only shields that don't suck?
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>>145406694
well thankfully none of this will happen so you're kinda the one on a suicide watch here, anon
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>>145406512
the most recent patch nerfed him but he's still good.
I literally cannot play a build without a theme or cosplay anymore
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>>145405359
post sliders
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>>145406694
It's funny because 40/40 quality builds are what hides behind those greatshields.

You haven't been playing for very long, have you?
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>>145407014
Correct, and this cancerously boring games playerbase is going to die off as well because fuckall is viable outside of 40\40 builds.
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>>145407051
Woah scary
Cool scooter though
SFV still sucks
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>>145407051
>I thought he was wearing a scouter for a second

Holy shit lmao
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>>145407117
>It's a he only looked at the greatshield entry and got triggered episode.
Already covered, learn to read the thread.
>>
can someone make a good Dio Brando in ds3?
>>
What should I use as my melee weapon for a 40/40 faith int build? I heard that spells got buffed like crazy and I want to be magic as fuck.
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>>145406952
You can roll before the kick hits easily.
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>>145407329
There was one at the cosplay event
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>>145407329
Somebody made DIO and somebody else made The World for the cosplay event

They were pretty nice but never seen them since desu
>>
DS3 Pyromancy/Dark Pyromancy builds?
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>>145407358
And then punish their roll if they roll once or reset if they roll away twice and do it all over again.
You cannot hide behind a shield because horsehoof exists. If you can't land a kick on a GS user you need to git gud.
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post cute
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>running up the arch to get into the anor londo cathedral
>get to the bit with pillars on each side
>camera freaks the fuck out and I fall and lose 60k souls
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>>145405661
Medium shields aren't bad at all. Lothric knight shield and black knight shield are amazing medium shields. They're amazing if you know how to use them that isn't just holding l1 expecting to be invincible. Most of the things that will drain lots of stamina are really easy to dodge. There's nothing wrong with them if you know how to use a shield.
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>>145407329
You're too late for that. The freezing bug has already been fixed.
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>>145405359
What's that supposed to be?
>>
>Warp into the Dancer fight
>She's not hostile for some reason
>Use the binoculars to look past her mask
>Huge eyes that make up easily a quarter of her face

What the fuck, /dsg/?
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>>145406692
>>145406952

Greatshields are top tier for a very important reason. Kicks might do 30-50 stamina damage to high stability shields.

That's fucking nothing.

And they have high enough resistances that they can heal most any chip damage through replenishment.
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This game is real drag to play when you're low level

Anyone on PC want to Bro-op my Alva cosplay build for a while? Just hit Undead Settlement and stuff
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>spend two days working on this shit
>not even halfway done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH7aL2KcBao

How do I improve this?
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>>145407859
Altair from Assasin's Creed. Remember the name well!!
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>>145402345
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH

SHHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
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>Starting "Pure" FTH
H-here I goo...
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>>145408065
Your gonna have quite a raw ASS soon.
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>>145407110
just pause to check thing.
level 80 dex end build
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>>145407393
>>145407467
ohh fuck i missed it, did any of u took screenshots?
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Why does DSG hate oroboro? He literally does the same things DSG does.
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>>145407728
God that was the worst. Thank god they fixed it in time.
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>LMAO HE USES 3KATS INSTEAD OF TWIN BASTARDS
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>>145408296
DSG is very gay but they don't OHHH SHOOOT people
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>>145402345

He literally, unironically hurts my ears with his shouting.
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>>145408407
I'm talking about in game stuff.
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>>145408065
don't start as cleric
>>
ive been gone for a while

you fuckers decided on 80 or 120 yet?
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>>145408860
we 150 now
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>>145408860
SL 60 actually
>>
http://darksouls3.wiki.fextralife.com/Manikin+Claws

Can you guess what's there which shouldn't be?
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>>145408860
we decided on 170, like our jap overlords
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>>145402447
What level is the event?

Need to start on my edgelord atheist invader.
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>>145408860
Yeah, it's 120. We've had about 4 decision making polls, and every single one returned 120 as the top answer.
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>>145408392
you can't even use 2 bastards at once why even bother
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>>145408969
>"Dont Works correctly with the Hollow Infusion, there is no Luck Boni from it"
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>>145408860
127
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>>145408860
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>>145409103
I love all the edits with valle's face
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I did nothing but using 2kats since the patch. hell, don't even try my other characters since the patch. i used this character for 2kats before. ihad fun but the WA was so useless then.

God now they are literally the most fun i had since bone fist.
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>>145408657
A little bit too late EHHH ANON??
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>>145408969
why does fextras table shit all over wikidots?
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How do we fix scythes now?
And how do we fix farron meme sword to be great?
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>>145409186
>>145409019
>>145408860

>Everyone votes 120
>All the builds posted here are 125

Real funny, faggots.
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why the fuck is there lag on ps4 offline mode
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Need to to trade some souls between characters
PS4
help
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>>145408860
120 for reddit eceleb fcs
80 for balanced pvp
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>>145402447
>Protect the pope won the poll

>"Gankersquad" the Event

Gonna sit this one out thanks.
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>>145409401
I only follow these pools to know the best level to fuck over meta following retards, have you got any idea how many free levels can you get if it's 120?
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Tell me, /dsg/. Do you know why The Dancer wears the mask?
>>
So if I want to go spellsword is int or faith better right now? Miracle cast speed got buffed but I haven't been keeping up with the patches, what are the good/fun magic builds atm?
>>
>farming with a bunch of dumb gear on
>get summoned as a blue
shit shit shit
>>145409673
it'll be 3 vs 3 most of the time
>>
Hey anybody want to defend DS2 map design to me?
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>>145402447
>Multiple choice poll for the date

Why the fuck
>>
Post dank Sun Memes
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>>145409673
Yeah I'm not too big on "/dsg/ shits on randoms" being an event. I play in these events to get away from pontiff shitters.
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>>145409594
someone ?
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>>145409659
>balanced PvP
SL80 niggers trying to shoehorn in their failed meta and their """""build variety"""""" the door is on the left
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>>145409801

Sully didn't want to see her ugly face.
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>>145409659
>80 for straight melee builds only
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>>145409907
because 44/40/40/40 is soooo versatile at sl120
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>>145409659
>80
>balanced pvp
Hi

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/42128
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>>145409386
Farron sword out to be adjusted either so that the damage on the regular attacks is higher and closer to other UGS, or so that they're faster and lower stamina cost to make up for their low damage.

Part of the reason everyone spams L1 is because the L1 is both the fastest and highest damage move the weapon has. The R1s do about as much damage as a greatsword, despite having all of the myriad disadvantages of UGS, and the rolling R1 is so comically weak that it tickles. If it had other attacks in its kit that were worth using besides the L1, it could be a decent weapon, but the high-investment, low damage paradigm ruins it and pushes people into mindlessly spamming L1 and hope they get lucky

As for scythes, they just need more AR and a usable WA. I can't really imagine how to fix the Neck Swipe WA to not be crap, but it needs a buff on the level of the 2kat WA buff to become usable. Their movesets aren't actually too bad but the fact that they do less damage than curved swords per hit is a bit of a problem.
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>mfw the estoc is still the best weapon in the game

>mfw its even BETTER because there are less parryspammers and you can punish parries with fucking backstabs
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>>145409801
>>145409921
It's because she's got big eyes.

For you.
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>>145405661
You have to time when to raise your shield? Oh the humanity.
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>>145409854
negative
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>>145410020
Estoc was always fast enough to R1 a caestus parry on reaction. Nothing really changed there.
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>>145402447
>"event" is just ganksquads dumping on reddit shitters at the pontiff's
Yeah, naw. I'll pass. I join events to get away from reddit's little pontiff party, not gank it.
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Anyone else on Ps4 have longer load time since new update?
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>>145409893
Yeah I guess. Where and pass
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>>145410119
high wall of lothric as always
pass dsg
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>>145410190
Gimme a minute
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holy fucking SHIT, was combustion-type spells hitbox fixed or something?
they hit for a full extent of a flame now
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>>145410274
They cast much faster now, too.
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Has anything souls or fromsoft related come out of E3 yet or still no?
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>>145410074
wut m8
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NEW HOT POLL, VOTE NOW!

http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
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>>145410190
Sign is down
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>SL 210
>1 summon sign each boss
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>>145410530
>tfw chuckled and snorted like a turbo nerd

get the fuck out of here
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>>145409984
>because 44/40/40/40 is soooo versatile at sl120
Yes, that is correct.
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>>145409984
>dead and buried faith builds
>copypaste pyros and magicks
>everyone else is copy pasted minmax warrior niggers who are salty over everything

Stats aren't that different at SL120 player to player, but people actually try things out instead of samesame
>>
Going for a Heysel RP, and wanted to see if Heysel were to beat the Lord of Cinder, what ending do you think she'd choose? Burnt it, be with the firekeeper, boot the firekeeper, or Make Londor Great Again?
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>>145410646
>SL120
>can't solo bosses
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>>145410842
she would choose the punish me with her feet ending
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Hey /dsg/, I need some help with DS1. I want to save Solaire, and I know to use the shortcut (have exactly 30 humanity saved up for the occasion), but what I'm confused about is when to use it. I've heard from some places that I need to talk to him at a bonfire after the centipede demon for it to work, and to avoid that so I don't accidentally enter Izalith and trigger something from others. Can somebody clarify which it is for me? I haven't fought the Demon Firesage yet, btw.
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>>145410842
>Rosaria, Goddess of Rebirth

She wouldn't perpetuate the cycle, she wouldn't take glory for herself. She would start a new beginning with the Firekeeper, imitating the grandness of her lord and savior.
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>>145410263
thank you dude
>>
>invade in Sen's on PS3
>INSTANT
are these the remnants of the global reset or is Dark Souls still alive on consoles?
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>>145410870
I pretty much can, i just like giving other the opportunity to get souls
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>>145410958
All that matters is that you kill the chaos bug with the sunlight maggot.
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>>145410318
welp, time to change my arsenal a little
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>>145410958

All you really need to do is enter the shortcut and kill bugs until you get the Sunlight Maggot.

Later on talk to him after killing the centipede and eventually he will show up at the shortcut you should talk to him there and he will help you with Gwyn later.
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>>145410646
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/username/Just%20A%20Simple%20Dot/

Why do you still post here? You're more cancerous than Lucifer going through your post history.
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>>145410948
Too bad that is not an ending =/

>>145410976
>Heysel wants to rebirth people
Huh, never saw it this way, and this sounds hotter than it should be. Thanks!
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>>145410981
Sure thing. Didn't I help you trade souls the some other time to a character called crystal sage? You had 99 champ souls
>>
is a level 23 Abyss Watcher build viable for WoF?
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WHO /FARRON/ HERE?!
>>
Do you guys think Karla (DS3) was raped in prison? I think her dialogue heavily implies it
>>
>>145410842
Some RP builds are fucking creppy, you kill yourself then steal your own belongings and replace your role.

She'd just rush to NG+ to get more respecs without grubing, so link the fire so she doesn't waste time.
>>
>>145411052
I don't know if the patch changed their damages, but pre-patch there was less than 100 damage difference between combustion (the WA) and great combustion/black flame. If it's still like that there's not much reason to waste an attunement slot on the spell when the WA is pretty much just as good. Pre-patch they both had the same hitbox and cast speed, the only difference was damage and FP cost (WA deals slightly less damage for a fraction of the FP)
>>
>>145410274
>>145410318
>>145411052

Can anyone confirm? because i want more shit for my pyro build
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1500 hp without prisoner's chain, or 1800 with it?
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>>145411107
LOL
>>
>tfw no Great Flashsword and Soul Greatsword and Farron Hail
>>
>>145411336
Without.

1800 / 1.15 = ~1565

65 HP is not worth a ring slot at SL120.
>>
>tfw no solo Onikiri weapon

It's a shame, it's easily the best looking katana in the game.
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>>145411261
>no souls fic where someone locks heysel up in the firekeeper tower while impersonating her but has to use reversal ring to properly finish the job
My dick got hard then sad
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>>145411257
Do you think Karla allows the Lord of Hollows ashen one to fuck her ass as a thanks for fulfilling her daddy Manus's life goal?
>>
>>145411393
Huh i was working at that time, someone really sure likes me
>>
>>145411257
Very likely, just like Yuria in Demon's Souls
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>>145411481
>implying it's just a boost to HP
oh you idiots sure are funny
>>
>>145411336
That would be a 20% increase in HP for a 15% increase in damage taken, which averages out to a 5% increase in effective survivability.

Unless you are seriously making use of those 5 extra levels of vit and end, it doesn't seem worth the ring slot.
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>>145411560
>Do you think Karla allows the Lord of Hollows ashen one to fuck her ass as a thanks for fulfilling her daddy Manus's life goal?

Definitely.

All the evidence is there.
>>
>>145411560
I'm sure she's given men a round with her ass for less. Probably doesn't take her much to offer it up
>>
>>145411149
you mean crystal mage
yes
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>>145411713
Good, she's way better than the other ugly waifus of that shitty ending.
>>
>>145411676
That was my thought, a ring slot for %5 + 5 end doesn't seem worthwhile unless it gets me another weapon swing or something
>>145411481
I wasn't solely thinking about 120, more overall, but it seems a lot less useful at that level in particular
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>>145411621
You can get more stamina from RoF, and equip weight isn't important.

In fact, RoF+2 actually gives more survivability at +5% health vs the effective ~4.3% health you get after factoring in the 15% damage increase.

Anyone who uses the chain beyond SL30 is retarded.
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i love the 2kats.
I really do.

I hope the DLC will give us more fun weapon. I just wished gotthard twinswords weren't such a cancer. they have cool moveset too.
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>>145411894
>not using RoF AND Prisoner's Chain
stay sub-optimal, buddy
>>
what is the counter to havels + estoc because no ones been able to beat me in at least 20 games
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>>145411961
>tfw still using Gotthard's +10 refined with carthus rouge after the nerf
No one can catch us

No one can stop us now
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>>145400682
The Iron Parma gives 85 physical defense along with having godlike small shield parry frames. You can buy it at the very beginning of the game from Maughlin.
>>
Faggots trespassing on my turf
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>>145411275
it feels like black flame has larger hitbox now, can't say for sure, will test all combustion spells with a friend soon
holy shit they made pyromancers godly
>>
>>145411996
dark damage can build up through the shield nicely
>>
he jumped off a cliff after seeing the champ in action
>>
>>145411961
Gotthard's are a lot of fun, really. I've been using them on my luck invader recently and having a blast with them. They have such a varied and versatile moveset it never feels like I'm lacking options.

All that needs to happen is for the rolling L1 to not be so fucking good and it'd be in a great place.
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So when you're invading as an Aldrich Faithful is there like a 50/50 chance of the knights not attacking you?
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>>145411857
>but it seems a lot less useful at that level in particular
It's not useful for anything other than really low level twinking. For anything beyond the Watchdogs, you should have better options for those ring slots.

It's particularly horrible for invasions, since the increased Vig doesn't improve the amount of Hp your Estus heals, so it's a straight loss of survivability in longer fights.
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DS3, this is my boss order so far:

Gundyr
Vordt
Sage
Deacons
Abyss Watchers I am currently fighting.

Is this the normal order? He's handing my ass to me with the flame sword, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't way out of order.
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>>145412245
Is that post-patch vestiges, because holy shit that's as fast as DaS2
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are they ever going to fix unfaltering prayer for the other talismans besides the sunlight talisman? the WA is useless on any other talisman.
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>>145410996
both
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>>145412417
Correct.
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>>145412417
There's no other boss you can fight now unless you sequence break.
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What is the soft cap for faith scaling for weapons
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>>145412417
Personally I do the edge watchers first before Deacons but that's just like, my opinion man
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>>145412417
You missed the Tree, but otherwise you've killed every boss available to you right now.
Abysswatchers can be a little tougher for new players the first time around until you learn their schtick, but they are the only path of progression available to you right now.
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Will Sony once again save gaming this e3?
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>>145412429
Seems like it. It's basically Forbidden Sun with an arc now
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>>145412319
>tfw no Gundyr boss that summons players so you can invade as mini-champs like you could in 2
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>>145412429
Vestiges comes out crazy fast on my Pyro with Sage ring and 17 Dex. Boulder Heave is even faster and spammable tier now.
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>>145412429
yes, it got a substantial and very needed speed boost, now i have a hard time deciding between it and chaos orb, they are both godly for different situations
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>>145412417
you've only missed one optional one back at the settlement
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>>145412721
>radeon5870
how bored do you have to be to pick that as a character name
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>>145412559
please ?
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DOING A NEW BULD
MAGIC IS SHIT, EVEN WITH 50 INT/18%ABSORPTION/29 HP AT LEVEL 83 IT SUCKS(still need the candlestick)
WHAT DO I DO NEXT
thinking of a level 80 knight, seems reasonablel enough(probably anris straight sword/hollow zweihander
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>>145412665

mayne that would be cool, I wish his halberd had his moveset with the kicks and shoulder slams
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>>145412721
>different situations
Vestiages for PVP and Chaos Orb for PVE.

Except maybe if you're a duelist who's good at free aim GCFO.
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>>145412449
Canvas Talisman's unfaltering prayer isn't necessarily bad but there isn't a reason to ever USE unfaltering prayer outside the Sunlight Talisman since that's the only unbreakable one

Saint's have a worthless Unfaltering Prayer is balanced by it having the best spellbuff and scaling

I do miss Sunlight Talisman being absolutely halal for faith builds though, Solaire's just a lovable guy
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>>145411835
What happened to the 99 champs
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>>145412574
>>145412757
I forgot about the tree, I killed him. He was such an easy boss, so I didn't even think about it.
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Does the Hollowslayer's bonus damage apply to the Abysswatchers?
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>>145412559
40 for weapons, 60 for minimal bonus damage on miracles compared to 40
>>145412829
>29 HP
meant 29 vit
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>>145412916
chaos orb is godly in random invasions if you're good at free-aiming, still arguably more powerful than vestiges if you're good at prediction
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>>145412979
They're abyssed, not hollow. Should work as the go to anti LCK weapon.
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>>145412829
60 int is a big improvement over 50 and the stick is even better
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Think I ran into a host that abused some bug in the game in Smoldering Lake. The giant ballista kept hitting this tree, never moving, but the host was never to be found, even in the Demon Ruins
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>>145413073
Doesn't apply to players.
Also
>They're abyssed, not hollow
[citation needed]
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>>145413073
>there's an anti LCK weapon
>LCK isn't even good
Why?
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>>145413162
>what are those dark tendrils on their cape
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>>145413168
LCK is the strongest build in the game pre-100 and quality/luck is the strongest build at 120.

There's a reason even speedrunners use luck builds.
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>tfw I've played mage in duels so long I forgot how to PvP without magic

I guess I'll go to level 387 until I git gud again
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>>145413050
>chaos orb is godly in random invasions if you're good at free-aiming
Only if the enemy is an idiot. Don't roll into a fireball type attack. At least Vestiges comes out faster and travels more directly
> still arguably more powerful than vestiges if you're good at prediction
The lava will almost never cause harm to anybody. You can roll away after the initial hit. Anybody dumb enough to get hit by lava is terrible at the game. Meanwhile the near-miss scorching effect of Vestiges will often tag players for some extra damage even if you miss your mark.

I've been pvping a lot on my pyro. I preferred vestiges even before the buff.
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>>145413014
so is it better go 30/30 quality and 40 faith for paladin build
or 25/25 and 50 faith ?
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>>145413162
I know, I said it should, not that it does, punishment for players hollowing and let me be a paladin.
Also read their descriptions, they got corrupted by the abyss because they liked artorias so much.

>>145413168
Luck has insane damage, Anri's can outdamage dark sword, twinblades were bullshit before patch and you still got hollow carthus CS and shotel, spiked mace for STR
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>>145413131

50 to 60 Int is 20 to 25% more damage, and a whole lot more if you incorporate the additional multipliers from rings et cet.

That is more than worth it.
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SONY CONFERENCE BOYS
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>>145413464
what level are you aiming for?
And I would say get a good faith weapon and use that, something like the swordspear or something lite. You want at lease 50 faith on miracles, and even then, most are bretty bad
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>>145413592
really? I'll have to go 60 then, I did not know that
I still need the candlestick, so I'll get that as well
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I like 0 to +15 better than 0 to +10
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>>145413865
I like having different types of titanite for elements
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>>145413976
I like grinding chunks and slabs for hours
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>>145408003
by ending your own life
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>>145413976
Yeah I love grinding
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>>145413716
V I R T U A L
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>>145413592
Is it the same for Faith?
I currently have 45 faith, stopped because that was all I needed for the last miracle.
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>>145413865
I wish we had no sharp/heavy/quality ones.
Also a world where the needed coals could all be acessed in a reaonable amount of time even if you weren't speedrunning and maybe import the system from BB where once you unlock something with ashes/coals, it stays that way.
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>>145402997
>Equipped weapons will have their damage reduced for 10 seconds after equipping
Why, that makes no sense logically. Nor does the ring shit.
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>>145413723
110 lvl
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Is the pope equipment just that good against magic, or do I just suck? was only doing 50 damage with a +3 Heysel's pick with 40 int
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>>145413264
That's like me.

Every time I switch to a new weapon, I feel like I can't pvp with anything but that weapon anymore until I move on to the next one.
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>>145414136
he's mroe concerned with muh balance for his pvp minigame than the game making any sense
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>>145409401
>everyone votes 80
>they're actually 90
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>>145414134
>Maiden ash reset
>keep hunter badges
Whhhyyyyyyyyy
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>>145413250
>There's a reason even speedrunners use luck builds.
Yeah and that has nothing to do with pve, but the fact that it has the fastest return per stat in the game. Levelling luck to 40 is easier than levelling str and dex to 40 each, and you get a bitching str8 sord with 400 AR out of it
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>>145409775
24?
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>>145414136
People circumvent vitality limitations by simply hardswapping weapons via the menu rather than carrying them, since it's just as fast. This devalues vitality as a stat.

Limiting weaponswapping also prevents people from hardswapping to a greataxe after a parry for an instantkill riposte. The ring change, similarly, prevents people from swapping to hornet after a parry for an extra 30% riposte damage without actually using a ringslot, as well as the cancerous ringswap progression meta twitchfags do
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>>145414147
then I would say something along the lines of this
https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/42144
customize as you see fit
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>>145414235
>vote 80
>i'm actually 72
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>>145414583
The absolute madman
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Matchmaking is still 10+10%, right?
What level can I go to safely without matchig up with 120 memesters?
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>>145414575
thx
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>>145414550
No, vitiality is devalued far more because armor damage reduction is minimal and poise is unavailable.
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>>145414740
https://mpql.net/tools/dark-souls-3/?l=120&w=

WOAH
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>>145414820
pretty sure the woof ring gives more poise than just about any armor
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Can someone give me a life ring+3
PS4
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>>145415001
ok, meet me at highwall, pass lifering
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>>145414850
>that calculator
>level 80's can aldrich invade 125s
Oh fuck.
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Is the man grub staff garbage? I never see anyone talk about it
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>>145415403
all gimmick weapons are shit

only refined high AR weapons are good
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who /hype/ for Kojima Souls?
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>>145409186
SL80-100 has 510 votes more than SL120

Since you didn't list SL90, and want people to pick the closest to it, I'm willing to bet SL90 is the what the people want.
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>/dsg/ so casual they want to see ringswapping gone
Instead of actively lowering the skill ceiling because you are unable to ringswap, why don't you just get better at the game.
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>>145415068
>unable to summon
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>>145415702
>one baiting retard is a whole /dsg/
nigger pls
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>>145415760
3 times in a row, what the fuck.
I'll restart my connection.
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>>145415781
>impying that isnt him
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>>145412119
i might have to pick up gundyr's halberd
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>>145404856
Any menu item-swap is tryhard bullshit. You have VIT for bigger weapons, repair powder for rings and getting a large 20% damage boost justifies the low HP activation. No one is impressed with swapping UGS for a riposte, it makes people look like a tool.
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>>145415860
Shut the fuck up
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>>145415525
the site for it makes it sound like pretentious garbage, but I haven't actually seen any footage so idk
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>>145415403
At 45 luck (its softcap) it's not as strong as the court sorcerer staff.
It requires that you still waste levels into int to meet spell requirements, so it's less stat-efficient than a normal catalyst
It's bugged so that weapon buffs do not scale when cast with it, so you can't use it on a buff build
It reduces the stat-efficiency of a luck build since the staff itself can't be hollow-infused, meaning you lose 5 free luck levels for holding it.

And probably the most damning issue is that most of the pvp viable spells only barely start dealing enough damage to be worthwhile at their damage ceiling (eg, 60int court sorcerer's staff with bellowing and young dragoncrest, cleric's candlestick and dusk crown). Mangrub's damage ceiling is well below that, so it leaves spells like flashsword and great farron dart literally tickling

The only reason to use mangrub's is to take advantage of the fact that a luck build has much stronger melee options than a pure int build does, but it basically means that your sorcery will be so weak that it hardly even counts as supplemental.
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>>145415531
That argument is flawed- I could easily say that SL 100-120 has 1,204 more votes than SL80 so it must be SL110 that the people want. Also that first poll must've been leaked outside of dsg or was created when the game was first released cos there are like 4 times the amount of votes
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>>145415809
well how is it ?
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MIYAZAKI HAS BEEN SPOTTED AT THE SONY EVENT

THIS IS NOT A DRILL
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>>145416000
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>>145414550
I understand what it attempts to solve. but instead of solving it, it would make things worse cause now, instead of parrying, they'll just r1 you. The weapon hardswap is also stupid cause you're hitting the same nail twice when the nail's already in the fucking coffin.
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>invade a guy in Undead Settlement at SL25
>runs away when he sees me and hides behind his buttbuddy
>it's a downscaled phantom
>Havel's Greatshield
>Dark Sword
>Lightning Blade
>he's an american with 3rd-world tier internet
>7 sippies that he all uses and I cannot punish because of the lag
>kills me with dark sword phantom range spam after 10 minutes of me widdling down his HP
>call him out on being a shitter with african internet
>his buddy the host that spent 15 minutes running away from me sends me this

wew lad
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>>145416097
All of these polls have been proxied to death. It's only the autistic pollfag that keeps forcing his shitty "events" and one shitposter than keep posting strawpoll results like they actually mean something.
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>>145416027
You can abuse its poison, Thief needs a single level to use it.
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>>145416097
Everytime we said the strawpoll maker loses his shit and says it's was never linked anywhere.

The majority wants < 100, no sense forcing sl120
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>>145415939
no u
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>>145416282
Stuck at "retrieving calibrations". God damn it.
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>>145416363
are those shmucks playing in an auditorium there's a projecter up there
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>>145416000
>>145416314
Am I in /vg/? I thought you can't get dubs here
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>>145416363
>german complains about latency
>sends hatemail to people he invaded
Can't make this shit up.
>>
If anyone cares, it takes 34 end and a ring of favor +2 (156 < cost < 159) to get 3 swings and a roll out of morne's greathammer
not that it's worth using over even smough's anymore
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Why the fuck did I spend $300 on this shitty console

-Long Load screens
-Offline Lag
-FPS issues
-Maintence longer than other platforms
-1.0.8 update fuck up servers, so we have to use temporary servers with MORE LAG
-Screen tears and freees
-Did I mention offline lag?

Can Sony PLEASE get thier shit together.
Load screens are now longer than RELEASE Bloodborne

GOD DAMN IT
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>>145416386
You're thinking of Storyteller's staff, anon.
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>This giant as fuck crocodile was supposed to be the hydra at the darkroot basin and great hollow

What the fuck from
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>>145416642
To be honest, that looks like someone shooped a fromsoft logo onto fanart
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>>145405947
>not 12kat
DISHONORABRU
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>>145416607
why would you ever buy a console for a PC game?

if you're not buying exclusive shit like Project Diva then you wasted your money and got cucked
>>
>>145416642
That's a really lofty expectation.
While the design is cool I would not have ever expected something so massive and detailed to make it ingame in an respectable capacity.
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>>145416394
>That argument is flawed- I could easily say that SL 100-120 has 1,204 more votes than SL80 so it must be SL110 that the people want
>The majority wants < 100, no sense forcing sl120
>The majority
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No NO NO NO
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>>145407553
Cute!
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>>145416642
i mean, how fucking huge could this thing be if it was in the final game?
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>>145413250
>quality/luck is the strongest build at 120.
Refined does more damage than Hollow with 40/40/35 stats on many weapons.

Refined with 40/60 Str/Dex does more damage than Hollow on almost everything, especially if you're two-handing for an effective 60/60.
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>>145416863
don't see why it couldn't be Gaping Dragon sized
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>>145407553
C U T E P O S T I N G
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>>145416835
>dying to Gwyn-sama phase
There's literally one excuse and I doubt you have it
>>
>dex/pyro will never be good again because from implemented Dark Souls 2 Pyromancy scaling, literally 2's worst feature

i sure do love them 40/40 variety guys :^))
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>>145416836
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>>145416578

>german

>american education
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>>145407553
Cute!
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>>145417101
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>>145407553
romance of the boreal valley
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>accidentally killed Yorshka with a sunlight spear
WHY ARE THESE PS4 TRIGGERS SO SENSITIVE
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>>145417340
FIlthy halfbreed needed to be put down anyway.
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>>145417340
congratulations anon, you are officially a dragonslayer
>>
RATE MY EIPC SL120 PVP BUILD:

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/42155
>>
I wonder if there's going to be a new from game announcement this E3, or maybe about the DLC
>>
How would the Twin Axes be with a hollow infusion on a luck build?
Comparable to a strength or just kinda shit?
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>>145417340
Like you were even close to 30 ears anyway
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>>145417490
you're really salty anon
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>>145417498
They're likely too early in the development stages of anything to officially reveal, considering DaS3 is only 2 months out the door.
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>>145417542
s-s-shut up...
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>>145417490
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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C U T E
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>>145417660
Three months, going by the Japanese release. Bloodborne was only three months out when DS3 got announced, same for DS2 to Bloodborne.
>>
>sl120
>everyone is warrior 44/40/40/40
>everyone is using scottjund's ring setup
>everyone has the top tier weapon of each weapon class +10 in their inventory they swap to "hard counter" the enemy weapons
>everyone plays the same passive-reactive playstyle
>everyone swaps to greataxe weapon class and hornet ring after a successful parry
>everyone is now using a pocket spear for the new shieldpoke bs tech
>everyone is the same
>even mages just play a weaker melee style play using flarron flashsword


>im just a pyro fighting the same shit everyday


WHERE

IS


THE


VARIETY
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Sad knight
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>>145417862
Get cucked faggot, das3 has the least variety in all the of the souls series
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>>145417862
in the better games

also what the fuck is a scottjund ring setup? you mean just using the ~3 good rings plus one filler?
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>>145417862
Be the change you want to see. Which you're doing so keep at it
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>>145417862
>i'm just using the new meta fighting the other meta everyday
>>
>>145418003
Ring of Life Lloyds Shield
Get hit
Drop Ring of Life, For sun Priestess, keep Lloyds
Get hit again
Drop Lloyds for any other ring of choice
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>>145416363

>invade them again
>kill them both
>receive this

wew

Are all americans like this?
>>
Someone on PC host a FC.
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>>145418169
>pyro
>meta

Excuse me?
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>>145418275
YEAH DUDDE DIDNT YOU SEE THE VIDEO ON REDDIT OF JAP PYRO KILLING BAD INVADERFS WITH CHAOS FIREBALL -> BLACK FLAME R1 R1 COMBO ITS THE NEW METAAA!!!
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>>145418170
sounds like autism

i'll stick with the FAP, Chloranthy, Life, filler meta since it works and doesn't require me to be mentally deficient

>>145418275
>something that has newly buffed 1shot combos and one of the only reliable estus punishes

if it's not meta yet it will be once shitters catch onto it
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>>145417862
>everyone plays the same passive-reactive playstyle
Only thing i hate about das3 pvp imo
its why i keep rope firebombs on deck
>>
how do you feel about ancient wyvern?
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>>145418584
it's shit just like this sony conference so far
>>
>>145418584
I wish it was fun to fight legitimately and didn't have an identical twin who hates cameras
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>>145418584
I have no real thoughts except that if the boss healthbar wasn't present people wouldn't have cared as much
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DON'T FORGET TO VOTE, LET DEMOCRACY SPEAKS FOR US ALL

http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
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>>145417780
Cute!!
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>>145418584
just another shitty boss in a game with maybe 2 decent bosses
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>>145407860
Eyesockets are pretty huge in general, man.
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>>145418785
SL200 IS WINNING

SL200 CONFIRMED NEW META

POLL IS NOW CLOSED

THANKS FOR TAKING PART IN DECIDING HOW WE ALL WILL PLAY THE GAME FROM THIS DAY ON

REMEMBER SL200 OR BUST

DO NOT HOST ====ANY====
FIGHTCLUBS ON /DSG/
UNLESS IT'S SL200
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>>145418785
>http://www.strawpoll.me/10479056
good meme

110 is ideal, but it's 120 either way.
>>
What's the point of hollow quality builds? Very few weapons are better off hollow infused than refined, and you have to direct points into luck that's useless. The only weapons that are great there are Carthus and Pole, maybe all other katanas because they actually suck as refined as well.
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>>145416463
thank you very much
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>>145418254
Nah, mainly because I don't run around with life partners and will engage an invader, unless I'm tied up against a bunch of mobs.
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>>145416363
>call him out
your error
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>>145418384
What?
>>145418386
What combo are you referring to, they nerfed fire whip this patch and fire whip -> great chaos fire orb isn't a true combo.
>>
>>145418839
Fingers a cute. CUTE!
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>>145419050
Carthus is the best weapon in the game, so anything that makes carthus better is going to be good.
>>
>>145419175
GCFB + Black Flame can be comboed, which is usually a one shot but if not the Vestiges followup hits like 80% of the time
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>>145419312
I don't think it one shot unless it's 27 Vit memers.
>>
anyone on PC got an extra mendicant's staff at low level, like level 10ish?

>>145419050
>luck
>useless
What is itemfind.
>>
>>145419276
that picture is disgusting
>>
I wish there was an icon to show if you had enough FP to use a weapon art properly
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>>145419385
Why?

Don't tell me you want to use it anon
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>go afk with 5 ears and the dorkmoon equipped
>come back
>7 ears
Easy
>>
Is the panel still going on?
What's the status on DLC? Is it announced yet?
Man, I hate getting stuck at work
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>>145419385
Something you can boost with a mimic head, gold serpent, rusted coin or rusted gold coin

Anyone who needs heaps of Luck for item discovery should neck themselves, I get everything fairly quickly with Mimic, Gold Serpent +2, and the occasional coin on 7 luck
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>>145418914
Hey, I'm getting ready for next event.

Can you rate my build?
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>>145419385
I have a spare mendicant staff unupgraded, level shouldn't matter due to passwording
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>>145419532
Miyazaki mentioned they apparently just started working on it, so I wouldn't count on any dark souls related thing on E3, more like Armored Core or the other mysterious title
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>>145418584
That he was meant for us to be distracted from the real boss of the area
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>>145419050
>the only thing that's going to benefit from a hollow build is the arguably best weapon in the game
>I don't get the big deal

It's confirmed that most weapons have a strength multiplier now, so you only have to go to 26 str unless you're willing to see more investment put your twohanded damage up mere single points. A lot of people who go to 120 have leftover points on bandit quality builds even if they are 40/40 instead of 26/40 anyway. On top of that, some weapons have such bad scaling by default that hollow infusion doesn't really lower it, and instead just gives you a base damage penalty in exchange for the option to pump more stats in to your AR (which typically does come out higher; the luck scaling doesn't show up on the stat page).
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>using fallen knight but keeping the piss pants
The set is okay but they're full of piss and don't look good

get a fresh pair of pants

ISHYGDDT
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>>145419858
The helmet is comically big compared to other knight helms.
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>>145419578
drop 5 end for 5 more vit senpai
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>>145419578
>45 end
>33% equip
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>tfw an invader that was getting his ass kicked is helped by me, saving him from 2 life partners and a host
>We both kill the life partners after an extended fight
>Host runs away
>Tried to summon more life partners
>alt+f4 as soon as I smack him with a spell that he survived.
If only I could taste the salt and tears coming from that host
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>>145419706
OUT-FUCKING-SKILLED
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So I just finished DS1 and DS2, and I'm about to start DS3 now and was wondering how viable faith builds are in this one. I made it about 3/4 through DS2 on a faith build before I was fed up with how useless it was
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>host fight club as friendly collectors edition nameless king
>fly around and spread memes
>drop 30 ears on the ground
>only one friend has accepted the gift
>everyone else too scared
feelsbadman
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>tfw no FromSoft at E3
>not even a DLC trailer
;_;
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>>145419858
The pants and chestplate are the most comparatively effective parts though, it's the helmet that shows up less than anything if you play with the armor optimizer.

I just use Alva with jailer gloves now, makes room for iron round shields to replace the caestus on all of my builds with FK armor. The jailer gloves match more than the actual set gloves, plus the Alva gauntlets are completely outclassed by fallen/nameless/elite knight gauntlets.
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>>145420163
you can't pick up ears
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>>145420125
The only good offensive miracle is from the final boss. That should give you a good idea of how viable it is.
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>>145419453
>>145419582
yeah I plan to use it

is that a bad idea/?
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>>145420125
Generally speaking there's no reason to go past 18 faith. Most the good miracles don't scale with your talisman.
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>>145420197
cheated ones you can ;)
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>>145420125
You picked a good time for it, they received a well deserved buff last patch. They're still pretty meh all around but definitely workable from what I heard
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who thought this would be fucking funny? how the

FUCK

where they thinking

having me have fun, then blight town makes you want to smash shit, you get out thinking it's over then comes fucking sens fortress

fucking 2 days later i finally get out and beat iron golem

I SPEND THE ENTIRE DAY TRYING TO GO THROUGH ANOR LONDO AND WHEN I FINALLY DO

FUCKING TWO BOSSES AT ONCE

HOW IS THIS FAIR????????????? I DIE FROM LITERALLY TWO HITS
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>>145420261
the only use it has is disappointment and acquiring sunlight shield
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I have an Xbox gamepad but it doesn't work on my PC Dark Souls. Do I have to change the settings somehow so I can use the pad?
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Why the fuck are people so afraid of death in this game?

You lose almost nothing and stand to gain much more enjoyment from redoing things.
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>>145420326
>I DIE FROM LITERALLY TWO HITS
well yeah that's why they had to put two bosses there try leveling up
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Well since we're talking about From Software games, anyone wanna help take down Laurence in bloodborne?

(please)
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>>145420389
xbox controllers are pnp mate
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>>145420401
I have the hardest time trying to convince new people to the game that losing their "so many" (4000) souls isn't a big deal and they need to suck it up
it's annoying
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>>145420512
not anymore, you can only install them through windows update and only if you have windows 10.

at least for the xbone version
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>>145420512
Yeah I know, the upper left corner lit up on the ring on the front of the controller, but it doesn't do anything ingame.
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>>145420592
fuck off
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>>145420401
Why the fuck are people so worried about how others approach in this game?

You lose nothing from others reading things
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>>145420619
it's true you faglord. read up
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>>145418584
The obstacle course you run through was poorly designed, and considering it doesn't even drop a boss soul, it probably shouldn't have had a boss' healthbar.

It feels like they reskinned rooms from Old Yharnam and tried to redo the gatling gun section but failed miserably.
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>>145397253

What's the best and safest build for going through DS3 NG without dying? I ain't no pro but I'm competent
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>>145420630
they whine and the devs listen thus dumbing down the game
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Any PC FC?
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>invaded the world of faggot mc asshole
>he's being escorted by his personal army of phantoms
>hornet ring party the host for a cheesy, unsatisfying 1 shot kill
>rinse and repeat for every single invasion

Why is invading such shit? If you try anything else you just get stunlocked by a bunch of dudes or just lose the estus drinking match.
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>Entering Catacombs of Carthus
>Invaded by dark spirit
>Named "Don't Mind Me"
>I come up to the bridge and he's on the other side behind enemies
>Not falling for it, friend
>He just starts walking up to me, past the enemies
>Not running, sprinting, rolling, just walking
>I attack before he has the chance to do anything
>He rolls back and throws a Soul Stream at me out of nowhere
>Down to less than half my health, I back away, he continues walking forward
>I get the entrance way and scatter, meanwhile he just goes up to the fogwall
>Goes through it
>Black Crystals out

I guess he was just passing through and didn't want any trouble
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>>145419582
awesome, my password is dsg and I;'m at the first high tower bonfire

i can drop sign or you can, your call

thanks
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>>145420407
what should i level up on wanderer and what weapon and armor to reinforce?
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>>145420389
look up the type of controller and find some guides to get it working, you usually need some retarded microsoft software you have to manually get.
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>>145420484
I can help if you still need it.
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>>145420858
I have my sign down by the 1st high wall bonfire
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>>145420814
Currently that's what is going on with me. Stuck right now dealing with an estocfag and his life partners as they do nothing but turtle and try to evade any and all magic I throw at them. Even if I do hit them, they're got too much fucking estus.
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>>145420915
It works on all my other games, I'm pretty sure it's somethign with Dark Souls.
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so what's up with the massive mountain sized dragon at archdragon peak? what's its name?
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>>145421094
Daddy
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>>145420953
guts?
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>>145421094
It's Aldia
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>>145420981
That's the worst. A lot of invasions are just staring contests between the host and his 3 phantoms and a single, lone invader.

All because the host is too afraid to walk into a narrow passage or agro the one enemy beside you.
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>>145421094
BANE
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>it's a spiked mace stunlocks you four hits in a row episode
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>>145421248
That combo doesn't work anymore
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>>145421183
No, that's not me
Are you at the High Wall of Lothric or the Tower on the Wall?
It's a red sign, eygon cosplay
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>>145421191
Or because the Host must always have a babysitter(s) to carry him through the game.
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>>145421416
oh, cool
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Red Invaders really got the short end of the stick
>Gimped HP
>Gimped Estus
>Friendly-Fire:ON
>targeted by NOFUN Police
>Cucked by Faithfuls and Purple faggots
Jesus christ, might as well make PvP not an option at all.
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>>145421393
It bloody well does, I just died from it. Couldn't roll for four straight hits.
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>>145421561
Red orb invasions were pretty gimped in DS2 as well, but you at least had other options with rats/pilgrims/blue orbs. Every form of invasion in DS3 is just a gank one way or another.
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>>145421494
I tried to drop you a giant seed so I could smash some dudes but I don't know if they show up
Sorry about the waste of an ember there though, the black goo could hit me but I couldn't be hit by it
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Hey b0is I've been using the raw dragonslayer's axe on my 60 faith build, but i've come to the conclusion that a lightning infusion would be better. Sure, raw +10 with lightning blade does fucktons of damage (like 700+ or something) but I feel not being able to use the WA (it cancels the LB effect) is just too detrimental, and it would be better to switch infusions. Thoughts?
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I've been invading for four hours straight and gotten absolutely nothing but gankgroups. PvP is dead.
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>>145421474
I hope From does something to make invasions less frustrating, but I doubt they will.

At this rate I doubt I'll even get the DLC, I mean why bother? I'll clear it in an afternoon and then have nothing to do. Invasions are garbage and I personally find fight clubs/dueling boring.

If anyone has any more edits like this please post them, they ease the pain.
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>>145421818
Woops, meant to say I couldn't damage it but it could damage me. Terrible phrasing.
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>>145421874
Soulsborne DLC always fixes the problems with the main game.

You can bet the DLC is going to be the greatest spot to invade in the entire series.
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Where the god damn hell is my DaS3 DLC trailer
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>>145421818
>>145421935
all good man, I didn't see anything but the staff drop, so giant seeds must not be droppable

thanks again
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>>145422064
not at e3 son
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>>145422064
There won't be one
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>>145421874
they need an animation for summoning to keep people from summoning after they got their ass kicked

pisses me off as a phantom, they just BC me out after I save their ass.
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Anyone have some non upgraded claws they could drop me on PC?

I have a low level luck build that I never really got to doing anything with, and with claws being buffed, I want to give them a shot. The only problem is that for some reason they're in the consumed garden and I really don't feel like slogging through the Dancer at this level
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>nothing from from at e3
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>>145421982
Yeah the DLCs usually are really good. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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>>145421874
If you want to 1v1 go duel.

Invasions have never been about and never will be about 1v1

Remember this is a PvE game first. PvP is only a side game, 98% of the focus in these games are exclusively towards PvE.
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>>145421982
>You can bet the DLC is going to be the greatest spot to invade in the entire series

Can you really beat invading the Frigid Outskirts with the Ring of the Living?
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>9 fucking AF invasions as a sorcerer
>0 fucking wins, 3 of the 9 being 3v1s in our favor
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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can some one post pics of the soul of cinders before his boss fight please?
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playing DaS1, is there any reason to use the Mace over the Reinforced Club?
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>>145422265
Maybe I'm a bit biased because I invade a lot, and I absolutely hate how there's NOTHING you can do to stop a host from summoning more people unless you have a weapon the can roll catch, but I think all white soap stone signs should disappear when your world gets invaded unless you're using a dried finger.

Any phantoms you have can stay obviously, but you just can't bring in more unless you open yourself up to more invaders.

>tfw I have no more gank edits so I'm reduced to posting this.
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anyone want to FC at high wall? will host now

>>145422295
i have some if you wanna drop your sign in high wall, pass is dsg. if you want anything else let me know too, i have like 5 of everything in the game at least
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>>145422265
I'd be happy if phantoms were stopped from being resummoned to a host's world if the invader who killed them is still present.
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>>145421393
you can just escape from the last hit so it does 1000 damage instead of 1200, still really good
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OCELOTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Fragrant Branch of Yore required to progress in Lost Bastille

What the fuck is this shit?
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Fresh off the presses
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>>145422720
Thanks man!

Just checked though and my char doesn't have the red sign yet, but I did reach the cathedral. I'll rush for it and be there in a minute
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>>145422474
When did I say I wanted 1v1s? All I want is some of restrictions and gimps put on invaders altered or (preferably) removed, or to have some put on summons.

I have no issue with 2v1s, 3v1s or even 4v1s. My issue is everything else I have to put up with on top of that.
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>>145422775
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDUS
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>>145421561

Say that to my 30+ invasion win-streak.
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>>145422892

>its another FOTM 2kat retard spams weapon art the entire fight ep

my favorite
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>>145422775
Nice. I was thinking more about Orphan though
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>>145422841
It;s not required to progress. Try using that key you found.
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>>145422720
FC sounds fun
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>>145422892
>certain attacks actually break hyperarmor
Neat
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>>145422909
Actually I'm an idiot. I thought you defeated the boss already, so I needed a red. Since you're hosting a FC then I can drop my white down since I'm assuming you didn't defeat the boss
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>>145422892
Now that was spicy
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How's my fashion?
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is it viable
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>>145423143
>Namelesslayer Ornking
Neat
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>>145422474
Even though, you know, almost all of the covenants are coop/pvp based.

And it's not about the fight me 1v1 fgt, it's the sheer lopsidedness of being an invader that it starts to become 1v3 and even 1v4 at times. On top of that, the host can resummon as many life partners as possible, should one fall, To further add, the invader is already at a disadvantage of being unembered, and halved estus (with no rounding up).

This then leads to the situation that ever invader either must kill the host within 1 or 2 hits, sit around and hope another invader comes by (and does't kill you first for reasons), or hope the host is an idiot and gets killed by some mob when the butt buddies aren't looking
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>>145422720
forgot to ember, will do that after this fight

>>145423065
yeah just drop a white sign, will be here after i ember
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>>145423143
pretty cool man
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>>145422892
Black Knight Greatsword is tons of fun for the whole family
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>it's a host with three phantoms and two reds on his side episode
Jesus christ, I mean really?
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>>145423143
Looks like a troll doll, that head piece just won't go nice on anything that isn't its respective armor set
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>>145423293
Thanks a million mate, appreciate the embers too, I was in the single digits with them!
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>>145423393
It's the only halfway decent alternative to Ornstein's helmet to add to his armor, imho.
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>>145422720
NEED SIGNS BOYS GET IN HERE FOR GOOD MEMES
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>>145423568
no problem lad, enjoy the anime jumps
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>>145423271
>>145422928
Then play a different game, Invasions have never been about fair fights. Up until DaS2 and DaS3, invasions favored the Invader.
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>>145423353
You can catch so many people, by mixing the charged version of the r2 with the fast one.
Now all it needs is a speed/stamina consumption buff on its WA.
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>>145423173
Put on iron flesh and a lingering dragoncrest ring since you should plan on being as immobile as possible
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>>145423570
well, you're not wrong there, doesn't mean it still looks bad imho.
But what the fuck do I know? The important thing is if YOU like it, not others.
Take me for example: I went full edge and im lovin it.
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>>145422707
In the woods half the time I got summoned it's to some faggot doing nothing but rolling while two invaders chased him around.

Personally I think if the host can out run you long enough to do a kneeling gesture where's he's vulnerable it should be fine, but otherwise some idiot shouldn't be able to just spam roll and estus for 10 minutes until he gets a working summon sign. I don't help people who spawn me in as that anymore. Had one use the collapse gesture and BC out once when the host immediately hid behind me. He must have been chasing the guy forever.
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>Unironically going to SL140
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>>145423042
That probably only happened because that attack killed him. I haven't seen hyper armor break
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>>145424015
Baller.
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>>145424150
>Unironically using the Washing Pole
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>>145424150
everything i do is ironic

including this post
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I feel like I'm the only invader that doesn't care about ganks and understand that's invasions aren't suppose to be fair honor duels.
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>>145423042
>>145424229
Sometimes latency can also create that illusion, where it looks like you hit him out of hyper armor but it was actually a counter hit
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>>145424360
they are also not supposed to be faggot gay nigger shit orgies with sauce
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>>145424360
Yes you're the only one. Is that what you wanted to hear?
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>>145424229
I've seen it break several times. It's very common in pve to see bosses or giant enemies to just casually flatten or blast you skyward right through hyperarmor, and I assume it isn't outside the possibility that it applies to pvp too.

The tricky thing, of course, is that since your iframes are halfway on the attacking client's side, you can never be certain if hyperarmor "broke" because lolnetcode or because it was mechanically intended.
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>>145423173
Why that fashion? Either change the legs to northern or the arms to nameless/EK. You've got spare equipload anyway (unless the heavy crossbow is showing up as weightless, which happened to me a couple times) (for the record, that crossbow is a bitch to get).

472 AR is okay but I'm not sure which "dragonslayer..." weapon that is

Grass crest is not that worth it, especial since it doesn't have 100 physical reduction.

I'm pretty sure lightning stake is garbo. It's a melee-only sunlight spear which is pretty much completely outclassed by using the actual sunlight spear as though it were a stake.
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>>145424360
they aren't, but there's a few unfair choices they made like the blood stain thing. seems like a cruel choice.
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>>145423756
That's not true and you know it. Even in Dark Souls 1 the host still had an advantage. They had access to summons and Estus, and on top of that the red eye orb invaded upwards in terms of level, so hosts even had a level advantage over invaders.

The only things invaders had was twinking, which only really meant anything up to Anor Londo.

The only thing that changed was Fromsoft started to bend to the whims of crybabies. I agree that the host should have a slight advantage over the invader, but the way it is now is just ridiculous.
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>>145424397
anyone volunteering for testing?
Now you got me curious
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>>145424360
Nobody's saying they should be fair honour duels, but the odds are stacked so massively against invaders it's like From wants their playerbase to start hating PvP so they can release a game that's co-op multiplayer only.
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>>145424569
Gravelording and mob advantage > phantoms.
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>>145424553
this is one of a few legitimately annoying decisions but just spend the fucking souls prior to invading, real value of invasions is not souls but embers and covenant rewards anyway
i would also be glad if they would limit the phantom summoning after the initial phantoms were killed, it was a thing in bb, why the fuck it ain't a thing in ds3?
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I was kinda hoping to see a dark souls 3 dlc teaser at e3, but its probably not close to showing a teaser yet
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>>145423576
still goin?
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>>145412245
>>145412721

Compare
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Holy shit, I just noticed how hard From fucked greatshields.

Most of them have inferior stability to the black knight shield, and less than 100 physical reduction. When did that even happen?
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>>145424664
gravelording literally never happened outside of townshit once in 100 years
even one additional phantom has 198 healing items on top of being healed by host's estus, mobs are fucking nothing compared to them and they can just turtle near the bonfire
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>Demon Souls
>FROM FROM PLEASE STOP INVADERS FROM RUNNING AWAY AND EATING GRASS AND HIDING BEHIND MOBS
LOL GET GOOD HOSTS xD
>Dark Souls
>remove estus from invaders
>FROM FROM INVADERS ARE USING HUMANITIES AND HIDING BEHIND MOBS
LOL GET GOOD HOSTS xD
>Dark Souls 2
>FROM FROM HOSTS ARE USING SEEDS AND I CANT HIDE BEHIND MOBS ANYMORE
LOL GET GOOD INVADERS
I-IT DOESNT W-WORK LIKE THAT!!!
>Dark Souls 3
>FROM FROM I CANT WIN INVASIONS AND GRIEF PEOPLE ANYMORE
GET GOO DINVADERS

ITS NOT FAAAIRRRR
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>>145424624
>DSIII isn't marketed to babies
Are we playing the same game?

Anyone got more phantom edits? They're fucking hilarious.
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>no From reveal at E3
Didn't they have 3 projects in development plus the first DaS3 dlc that's coming out this fall ?
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>>145424962
yeah drop that sign lad
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>>145424664
I'm not sure what Gravelord Servants have to do with invading.

Mob advantage means jack shit in these games. The enemy ai is a complete joke. Besides, if there's 2 phantoms and a host vs one invader it's pretty easy to have one phantom take the attention of the enemies.

I'm not saying the host and invader should be on equal footing, it's perfectly reasonable for the host to have an advantage, but like I said they get way too much in Dark Souls 3.
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>>145424979
they should fuck them harder
and they also should nerf lothric knight shield, black knight shield and havel's shield, they are still too strong
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>>145425083
And they have nothing to show for it yet. Expect bad
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>>145412245
Holy shit, time to make a pyro

>only have to dedicate 8 points to vit and 7 to luck
this feels good
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>>145424749
>just spend the fucking souls prior to invading
complaints invaders have made is that if they win an invasion, they have to go back to the hub to spend everything or risk losing it. and even expecting them to spend everything before hand if they're trying to save up for a level up is silly.

as a phantom if I die in a hosts world there's no loss for me. so long as my boss is dead I can't even be fucked over by an invader. it just seems unbalanced and without reason, like it was a lazy programming choice or something. I hope we get a few patches to tweak some things around.
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>>145424569
>not having estus
>a problem ever
*pops humanity*
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>>145402997
Do you even realize what this would bring?
It would make PvP far more passive
People would kite and turtle out the 10 seconds every time
Multi-buffing would DOMINATE, EVERYONE would be running quality + fai
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>>145425063
>minor setback
>grief

It doesn't even matter invading in DaS3 anymore, you're like a few steps away from the bonfire anyway.
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>>145425157
>Mob advantage means jack shit in these games. The enemy ai is a complete joke.
Then why do invaders bitch about seed?
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Dude is invisible
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>>145425183
Can you take tomes with you into NG?
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>>145412721
>yes, it got a substantial and very needed speed boost, now i have a hard time deciding between it and chaos orb, they are both godly for different situations
I have the same problem. Wish warmth only cost one slot.
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>>145425173
Only the highest stability greatshields need nerfs, and they really only need it on stability. To be honest the lack of 100 physical on some them was kind of overkill given how most greatshields can be broken like midshields now. What I really wish is that they'd buff scythes to the point of them being viable counters.
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>>145425063
I don't recall a single seed used on me in DS2 while I was climbing the ranks of the arbiter shit list

Also never saw the need to hide behind mobs. Hosts were usually alone, and even in 1v2s it would be a fair fight without environments.
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>>145425217
even while invading at sl120 you get like 4-10k souls once per 5-10 minutes at best, it's fucking nothing compared to what you can get from winged knights in 5 minutes
on lower levels invasion souls rewards are absolutely irrelevant
i'm not defending that shit mechanic though, i hate it, but you can pay no mind to it at all
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>write a message with gesture
>it starts getting steady ratings
>realize later it's because it comes off kind of sexual
ok
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>>145425381
yeah what the hell
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>>145425389
I don't think so. Even if you can, the inital pyromancer only accepts tomes that you get super early in the game.
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I just beat BB, DeS and DaS1 back-to-back should I go for DaS2 and 3 or will there be a complete edition of 3 down the line

DaS1 > BB > DeS
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>>145425218
I'll give you that but the rest still stands.

>>145425351
Because on top of the enemies in the area they also have to deal with the host and his 3 phantoms.

You should of been able to figure that one out yourself.
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>>145425483
What is it and where is it?
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>>145425448
expecting people to farm souls vs. be able to keep what they have is also stupid honestly
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WE'LL GET 'IM EVENTUALLY
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/dsg/! Quick, claim your weaponfu!
Mine is the bastard sword.
>WA throws people into the air and people always walk right into it
>hits like a fucking truck
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what is this gesture meant to convey?
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>>145425549
If you want to play them just do it, most people here are borderline retards
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>>145419276
why aren't there 5 (or at lest 4 with you being the 5th) finger invaders in game? I thought this was a Berserk game.
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>>145425584
But it's fine when the host has to deal with invader + mobs?
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>>145425605
I'm not telling you, you'll find out where I live somehow.
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Kill Bennerd? Y/n?
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The seeds are really only good in certain places. PVP will improve as the patches come out.
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>>145425483
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>finding out the infinite estus-prompted item glitch for the first time

what a powerful technique

this is best used sparingly
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I WILL APPEAR

AT THE FC SOON

I'M STILL WATCHING

E3

PLEASE WAIT FOR ME!

I'M ALMOST THROUGH!
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>>145425351
Because it's a delicate little shit cherry on top of the multilayered, shitfilled shitcake with shit frosting and shit sprinkles..
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>>145425381
I can see everyone and I was apparently visible before, but you couldn't even damage me now.
Weird as hell
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Is bleed the optimal Pve build at 100-120?
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>>145425549
There's probably going to be a special edition of DS3 after all the DLCs are done seeing as all the shit that's missed(blue eye orb as an example).

DS2 is well, DS2. Know what you're going in for when you're playing it(the weakest souls game, but not by any means a terrible game). It's worth it for the DLCs alone imo
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>>145425685
>not the playmore
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Am I the only one who thinks all phantoms should have friendly fire enabled like purples? You could make it so certain colors like sunbros have to actually help the host to get their reward, making them trustworthy, but as it stands two ultra users can just use synchronized shockwave attacks to become literally unbeatable. It would also add a risk to summoning, since literally any phantom can backstab the host.
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>>145425393
warmth would be fucking overpowered if any pyromancer could easily fit it onto his build, it's already the best healing spell in a game
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>>145425819
it's cheating at all levels
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>>145425819
Bleed is the optimal PvE build from SL20~120
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>>145425661
I think we got him, good fight
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>>145425685
Let me just spam soul mass at every opportunity you give me, shove farron darts down your throat, reach you from halfway across the arena with the 1HR1, and then flashsword you when you think you got my attacks down

Funnest weapon hands down
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Dragon Shrine or Archdragon Peak?
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>>145425389
No, all your tomes/ashes/etc get removed. You have to find them every playthrough.
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>>145425905
Reds should just be allied too. I know they're not supposed to be friendly in terms of lore, but what the fuck is the point of moundmakers when reds can already backstab each other?
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>>145425748
Yes, because the host has multiple phantoms, as wall as way of the blue, more Estus than the invader, and the health boost from being embered.
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>>145425905
>add a risk to summoning
Summoning is intended as the game's easy mode. From wouldn't gimp their intent like that.
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>>145425661
Am I still invisible?
I jumped off the cliff before and got resummoned
It seems like there are more phantoms in this world than there is allowed to be usually
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>>145425920
I know.
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>>145426124
yellowfinger should have his own covenant of jolly darkwraiths
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>>145425905
anything would be an improvement over how it is now

it's fucking sad
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>>145426124
>>145426226
They should make Sunbro Invaders allied to all other reds. It would make sense and give people a good reason to go Sunbro on invasions.
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Can we talk about how based this shield is when paired with the Farron greatsword? Nobody expects to be parried by a greatshield.
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This post contains Dark Souls 2
If this triggers you please look away


Just bought this game during steam summer sale yesterday, and at first i didn't like the gameplay because of how different it was. But after sticking with it, I think I really like it more than DaS3's combat. In DaS3 i could spam rolls consectuvely and 9 times out of 10 i'd escape almost any situation. Here, I'll get my shit pushed in. It's almost like B-team wanted people to consciously time their rolls the moment an attack is going to collide with you rather than the beginning of the enemy animation. Kinda like monster hunter. I dig the roll system in MH so I feel like it's only natural to enjoy the rolling system here as well. Also what the fuck is up with all these god damn statues everywhere blocking all the paths.
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>>145426226
>his

Don't bully mai waifu
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>>145426389
I'll stop bullying xer when xe stops forcing xer romance on the rest of us
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>>145425685
Can't hate it. Even after the WA nerf.
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>>145426124
Everyone sees the purple backstab coming, nobody expects the red to kill you for shits and giggles.
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>>145426389
doesn't leonhard refer to yellowfinger as male?
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>Pursuers out the ass

Okay SoTFS is starting to annoy me. I've killed the same boss multiple times.
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>>145425063
People complained about seed in 2, but noone considered it impossible to invade. People were way more preoccupied complaining about SM.

The fact is that invaders really shouldn't have to get good. If I'm invading that means it's time to bully. If I have to dedicate time, effort, and practice to it, it's just not bullying time anymore. If you actually deserve to beat the guy up, you aren't a villain, which really sucks when you want to be a villain. People are fine with dying over and over to mandatory bosses, but for some reason having invaders win the majority of the time sounds strange to them. Invaders are the ones who actually choose to invade, ergo they're the ones who need the incentive to do so in order for the mechanic to actually be used.
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>>145426493
>WA nerf
Explain
It wasnt even good
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>>145426346
Shut the fuck up
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>About to try Nameless King with +4 weapons
How fucked am I?
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starting to get some Unable to Summons, might need to reset the FC
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>>145426346
The ds2 level and enemy design is my big beef with it, and the adp skill which negates everything you just said about rolling but requires stats invested. That and it kind of feels like the whole world is under water. AGE OF DEEP SEA???
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>>145426124
I'd really hate that to be honest, unless it only applied to red-eye reds. I wouldn't want fightclubs to get screwed over. The best option would be to make just red sunbros allied with all other reds.
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>>145426540
Read the Heysel Pick description.
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>>145426641
I did him with +2 and I'm shit at this game
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>>145426346
That's probably the one thing DS2 pvp did right that ds3 didn't. Though when it comes to fightclubs, it's far less a big deal since you can't use that as a means of safely chugging given that chugging is against the rules.
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>>145425920
so it's pretty good since they buffed it? I need to give it another go.
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>>145422892

Whenever I see this happen my butthole tightens
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>>145426346
I personally wasn't a fan of how floaty everything felt in DaS2. It wasn't an issue with the combat persay but more that the animations were awkward and affected the combat for me more than it logically should. DaS2 is also the only souls series that the animations were mocapped rather than animated from scratch, so that might have something to do with it. The only thing DaS3 needs in my opinion is more stamina costs for pretty much everything except the ultra great weapons. I also think a midroll and more armor on the heavier armor sets would add more variety in builds.
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>>145425685
It was Anri's for a while, but now I don't have one. This is the closest thing I got. I want them to fix poison so bad. Why is there no toxic infusion for fucks sake.
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>>145426651
I don't intend to level ADP, there is no sense leveling it when I can get by without it. I'd like to just invest in STR/DEX for now. Kinda like in MH where I'd rather get attack up skills like adrenaline or recklessness over quality of life skills like evasion+2 or master trapper
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>>145426641
Depends on the +4. If it is a barbed sword, you're dandy.
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I cannot beat Abyss Watchers... I have tried so many times. This is getting close to Laurence level of tries. How do I cheese him? I'm just so tired of trying. I can get to fire sword no problem.
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>>145426949
35 hp per second.

PER

SECOND

Its better than it was in ds2. In invasions I cast it on people in the middle of duels just to troll.
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>>145426986
Poison in Dark 2 was great, as it actually was viable, instead of a minor annoyance.
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>>145426641
not fucked at all I beat him first try w/ broken straight sword +0 and no damage taken
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NEW THREAD

>>145426941
>>145426941
>>145426941
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>>145425685
Even if it makes me a shitter, this is my boy
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>>145427105
>can't beat Abyss Watchers
Just backstab him you boob.
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>>145427120
>Its better than it was in ds2.
Shit. I loved it in DS2. I got to get my some shackles.
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>>145426651
I feel like the slow gameplay only focuses the idea you should be more concerned with timing over just mashing r1 and rolling whenever an enemy does an animation.
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>>145427105
Use the Dragon Crest Shield. High fire defense and 100% physical block. It will stagger the Abyss Watcher if he uses the dagger, and block most damage from the greatsword attacks
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>>145426949
It heals 3.5 estus flasks worth of health over the course of a minute. You literally have to go to 99 vigor with Favor +2 and life +3 to have the amount of HP it heals, and it stacks with miracles like bountiful light (which has an identical faith cost I might add).

I honestly think it should have the stat requirement and amount healed both lowered.
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>>145427128
I know! The mist spells are shit again too.
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>>145426598
Yeah, but you do get a Twinkling every time. And if you leave the spot he's in he'll vanish until you repop the whole area.
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>>145426619
Is the thrill not enough? I get the chills every time I get the red spawn animation then walk around the level with obscuring, cat and slumbering, pelting them from afar, leaving warmths by tough enemies, only to swap them into battle ones and charge at them.

Invading favoured boring uncreative people in other games, half invaders not even knowing simple shit like chamaleon or where to throw bombs, instead relying on easy mode +10 gear. Now at least you get endless toys to play around even at disadvantage.
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>>145427105
Roll when he attacks
Hit him until he dies
This worked for me

Seriously, the entire fight is just a "can you roll?" check. He's the Penetrator of DaS3.
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>>145427105
try to ignore the extras that pop up and just damage the main guy

sometimes the extras attack the main guy too. and for phase 2, just roll. his moves are more predictable.
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>>145427105
Walk away and slowly circle instead of hugging him. Punish him when he chases.
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>>145427297
I think Miyazaki hates poison for some reason. That, or Farron Keep would make poison too much of a pain in the ass, as I guess he though everyone loved Blight Town and other slow moving swamp areas.
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>>145427296
>I honestly think it should have the stat requirement and amount healed both lowered.
I'd be okay with that. It was fun to mess around with in ds2, but the high requirement kept me from ever really messing with it.
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>>145427315
I don't really get a thrill out of sniping to be quite totally honest. I had some fun doing bridge patrol, but that was about it. I'd rather feel the thrill when I'm the host fighting an invader than as an invader attacking the host.
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>>145427472
DaS1 poison was alright since despite its low damage there wasn't a ring or weapon infusion that could negate it.
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>>145427603
Not really. Dark 1's poison was also largely more of an annoyance than anything, with toxic actually being an issue. Only problem is that the only way to inflict toxic was with the gravelord sword
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>>145425685
flamberge and brigands axe are my boys
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>>145427696
There was the silver tracer too.
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If I'm summoned invisible one more time I am going to write a strongly worded letter to Miyazaki
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>>145427163
I'd like it if it wasn't so bad
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>>145419498
You were afk for what? A few days?
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THE TREES TOLD ME TO
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>>145428756
he ded
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>>145426346

The good news is that statues Almost always indicate good loot.

But yeah you use a ton of fragrant branches of Yore trying to loot everything.
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>>145428756
>can see myself lagging in the webm
This isn't okay
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>Dark Souls is a hard game
:^)
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>>145427105
I you need to heal just sprint to the other side of the room. He is too slow to chase you. Other than that get good or cheese it with JOLLY COOPERATION.

Also every boss after Abyss Watchers is harder than they are so get good.
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