/kfg/ - Killing Floor General

Honestly how can one company be so shit?

shitwire
I wish I could double thumbs down their game

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fucking John

he's dragging the company slowly down

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Where did it go so wrong, /b/ros?

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>wait for months for update
>finally comes
>everything gets worse

Oh well, I'm not a TWI apologist, but if you're gonna act over some VR abortion like it's the end of the world, fine.
I'm telling you it means even less in the long run than VS.
Did you react to Ouya/Android spinoff the same way?

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It's fucking dead, Jim.

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why did they do it?

can I get a quick summary of the resistance update?

I heard that firebugs have a hard time killing crawlers but what else did they fuck up?

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>>145388806
>slowly

just kill me already

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118130

>increased parry damage just slightly
>increased RPG splash radius
>decreased RPG weight

>>145388992
basically they made it so zeds are resistant to everything except certain weapon types each. Shotguns for example do 1/3rd damage to crawlers.

It basically ruined the game. There are now 22 different types of resistance per zed. If you get surrounded by something like stalkers and you have a shotgun good luck.

>>145388992
All resistances are unreasonable, there are 3 types of bullet damage, stalkers and crawlers are worse than gorefasts, berserk is dead, demo is dead, firebug is dead, slinger is dead, sharp is king.

>>145388992
>what else did they fuck up
Literally EVERYTHING.

>>145388897
this isnt about the VR you fucknut

>>145388992
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118063

Tried to paste it here but it's too long

>>145389073

>Still not serious tweaks to the resistance system.

They are dedicated to pushing it, aren't they?

>>145389073
>can carry M79+RPG
I gotta try this out

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>we're doing early access right
why did we listen

>>145389247
What, then?
Are you honestly surprised about update/game being ''''finalized''''?

>finally come look at kfg since i saw an update for KF2
>It looks we're getting shit with this update
Tell me lads, should i just delete the game then?

>>145389391

Go to Payday 2 and pretend the worst of KF2's updates never happened so you'll have good memories of it.

>>145389073
>Demo buff
neat

>Pulverizer
>Block strength will mitigate 50% damage was 40%
>Parry strength will mitigate 60% damage was 40%
That's still fucking shit

>>145389370
alright it's obvious you just happened on these threads today do some research next time

>tripwire slowly setting resistances back to x1

at this rate they'll have this shit fixed in about 2 weeks.

Honestly I don't know what they were thinking. Zeds only needed 1 weakness. This bullshit isn't fucking monster hunter.

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>shitty resistances added to the game
>but also Hans is fixed and there's Sharpshooter

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>>145389573
literally you

>>145389073
>http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=118130
WAIT
whats a remington
and whats a remington revolver?

Do they mean that only the revolver is stronger now?

>>145389497
But i'm not even a fan of payday.

Resistances themselves aren't inherently a big problem. The big issue that makes them so shit is that zeds move way too fast to properly coordinate the amount of teamwork required to focus on the zeds your perk can handle. Good luck not constantly getting surrounded by crawlers and stalkers and now having no way of getting them off you. With no door welding it's basically impossible to watch all places zeds are coming from so even if you're say a commando you can't kill every stalker that might show up.

>>145389927

Still better than KF2 at this point.

>>145389370
Have you not seen what the fucking incap/resistances did to the game?

Demo is even more worthless now, Support can't kill anything besides Clots, Gorefasts now refuse to die, Firebug can't even kill crawlers (THEY GET BONUS EXP FOR KILLING THEM, AS IF TRIPWIRE WANTED FIREBUGS TO DEAL WITH THEM).

Stalkers are now tankier than sirens, bloats now have extremely high bullet resistance even though headshotting them with bullets is how they're supposed to be fucking dealt with.

Demo can no longer stun FPs with dynamite, making him even more worthless than he was before the "buff" and his RPG has the explosion radius of a fucking commando nade. Zerk can't block/parry damage nearly as effectively AS THE FUCKING TANK PERK, doesn't do enough damage to even defend his team from the weakest of trash, and has to choose between either his old run speed or 150 hp. Slinger is now so useless that he isn't even mentioned anywhere anymore.

>>145389914
Either the LAR or the Slinger T1

>>145389185
>>145389212
I couldn't believe until I read this >>145389254

I'm not going to play the game if they're going to make it into some kind of rock paper scissors mess

>>145389238
a-at least SS is out now

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>TFW KF2 will die before it gets a proper Stalker nude skin and a pale-skinned Stalker nude skin.

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>>145389787

>>145390030
So should i just go back to shitsouls 3 then?

>>145390332

Yeah.

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>>145390204
I wish it was rock-paper-scissors

it feels closer to pick related

>>145390095
slinger T1 is either a colt navy 1851 or a colt army 1860, can't remember which
either way it isn't a remington

How to fix the resistance system
* Cyst / Clot / Slasher - x0.5 Microwave
* Bloat - x1.5 Ballistics, x1.5 Slashing, x0.5 Bludgeon, x0.5 Microwave, x0.5 Explosive, x0.25 Toxic
* Crawler - x1.5 Bludgeon, x1.25 Fire, x0.5 Microwave
* Gorefast - x0.5 Fire, x0.75 Explosive
* Stalker - x0.5 Microwave
* Husk - x0.25 Fire
* Siren - x1.5 Microwave, x0.5 Slashing
* Scrake - x1.25 Bludgeon, x0.5 Explosive
* Fleshpound - x1.5 Explosive, When enraged x0.5 damage against all types except Microwave and Explosive

Is there a mod to let you skip trader time? I play solo almost 100% of the time so standing around doing fuck all for a fucking minute per round is annoying as shit.

>>145390594
no it's definitely called remington 1868 or something like that

>>145390759
oh it's this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_Model_1858

>>145390594

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Killing_Floor_2#Remington_1858_New_Army

>>145390716
Already did a better job than tripwire, it's not perfect but it's a lot simpler to learn and understand

>>145388897
>Did you react to Ouya/Android spinoff the same way?
no, because they had someone else develop that, and they didn't already have a game in EA with lots of claims about what they were going to do with it

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>still no subs for Macross
>Tripwire is still fucking stupid

Just end me already.

>>145388992
>can I get a quick summary of the resistance update?
Most weapons are shit against most zeds.

>>145389914
>whats a remington
>and whats a remington revolver?
the 1858, gunslinger's tier 1

is there a vid of the interview on youtube yet? i missed the god damn thing

Tag-line for the new bulls-eye patch:
>Prep the Bull

theyre straight up selling skins on the store bottom again boys

its ogre

the fact that they reduced the weight of the rpg just tells you how dedicated they are to this resistance shit they would never allow this combo given pre patch conditions

>>145391587
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TCblAe-kvo
click the slider on the bottom to go back to like 70min before live

So they pushed the resistance shit to live? What?

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>>145392374

Yep.

>>145392374
how could you possibly doubt that

>>145392068
It's a great combo but now Demos using that are gonna get DESTROYED by trash unless the team is really competent

Goddamn this is fucking hilariously awful. Gg, TWI, I'm genuinely impressed.

Which E3 was worse boys?

Last years """"""FREE CONTENT UPDATE""""""" or this years VR extravaganza

>>145393030
This year, at least last year they showed us something new

>>145393030
>FREE CONENT UPDATE
was insulting but the VR.. what a waste

>>145393171

The VR game is new.

>>145393702
new for KF2.
the VR shit is going to be a separate purchase.

when you use the money you make from an existing game to make a remake of that game, you know that your management has shat the bed.

>>145393903
idk, probably

>>145393903
>>145393964
anyone got that one dumpster sound effect from spongebob? because that could be used to describe this game right around now.

>>145393903
>How is the full version planned to differ from the Early Access version?
>“The goals for the full version are for all 10 Perks, more levels and more weapons.

It is still there for me.

post yfw this whole E3

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if TWI were a japanese company most of the staff would have committed ritualistic suicide by now

>>145395258
Haven't they actually lost quite a few people? I know they were without a senior programmer or something for a while.

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>>145395601
quite a few former employees were unhappy with the way things were being handled by the higher-ups, so they gave them the finger and quit.

>>145395780
Is that what they said on their twitter/facebook or just fanfiction?

>>145390095
The LAR is a Winchester Model 1894.

>>145390594
The Gunslinger's T1 is a Remington Model 1858 Single Action.

>>145395976
there was a string of twitter posts from employees stating they were leaving, mostly for politically acceptable reasons. "Pursuing new opportunities", shit like that.
Notably a lead programmer, most of a design department, and their community manager (who went to Stardew)

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>takes one million years for content to be released
>release Incursion video
>my literal reaction
God fucking dammit. This was the worst 40 dollars I ever spent in my entire fucking life.

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>>145390231

>Finally manage to get Abandon All working in KF2
>The game dies the next day

It don't matter.
None of this matters.

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>Don't opt into beta to enjoy the time left
>KF2 is scheduled to update in 30 mins

Has the void come early to embrace me?

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>>145394425

Only Halo Wars 2 can save my E3 now.

>>145398278
at least you the track name right for the game's situation then :^)

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Hans or Patty?

>>145399486
Matria-OH WAIT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3SinWPbXnw
>Those dislikes

>>145400620
I just added another one

>>145390082
>extremely high bullet resistance
to be honest, I kinda prefer the bloat taking a couple of shots to one

Makes them more challenging

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I haven't played yet, what's the new character like? From her design she looks like she's either a hippie or one of those SanFran "I'm not like the other girls" hipster types.

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>>145400620
>three "more comments in"
>every single comment is negative, ranging from JUST/wtf, to passive aggressiveabout the date, to straight up insulting them
>one guy taunts them that they can't ban on youtube
I'm impressed. Rarely do you get so many people to come trash your official channel for announcementa. But twi pulled it off.

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>"Final release" in the fall
>but Swat and Martial Artist won't be included

i dont really mind the resistance all that much to be honest

without knowing what it actually was, all I noticed was that husks and bloats had tougher heads than usual, and that stalkers were tougher than usual

It's basically fine for me otherwise.

Everyone is a bit tankier, but i don't mind.
It's a bit more of a challenge

It will probably get patched in to shape eventually.

>>145402181
She's another "alternative design character" with an awful voice, when ana already filled that role and Masterson, briar, foster, (and scully and anton, for those who have them) still eclipse the rest of the men in use. But to know that, they'd have to play the game.

>>145402181
she's just kind of normal

>>145402687
>"alternative design character" with an awful voice
So she's "not like the other girls"? Because I look at her and I see a special snowflake.

>>145402438
I don't like how tanky shit is now, it reminds me of playing an MMO or an RPG where your weapons don't really pack a punch

I could kind of understand scrakes, FPs bloats and husks taking lots of damage because they're big and tough and meaty but shit like clots and gorefasts don't need to be any stronger than they used to be

>>145403246
I like bloats being more tanky

they now have more presence on the field or whatever

before you would just pop 'em once and forget

>>145400620
it's unbelievable how stubborn and full of shit TWI is. shit no one asked over and over again next thing they'll do is a mobile game just watch

>>145400620
>Hardware exclusive crap
Tripwire is literally the embodiment of how to do everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, wrong. Exactly the opposite way of how people want it.

I'm not even mad anymore. I can only laugh at the bubble they are living in.

>>145403407
That's kind of the point of bloats. They're a low-tier enemy, they are meant to be shot once and forgotten. The catch is you're supposed to shoot them in a specific way and place or they blow up. But now TWI decided to make 70% less effective.

>>145402048
Yeah they needed a bit of a buff to be honest. Just a bit more head hp

as much as they gimped the explosion shit on firebug, the class actually feels decent now with the consistent stumbles and panic on the zeds

patch is still unbelievably shit

I don't understand the logic behind the resistance patch

>shotgun
>0.25x --Stalker

why? why does an invisible naked woman take quarter damage from a shotgun? what's the logical reason for this

shit like this belongs in an MMO

I can understand resistances for certain things like fire vs husks and bloats, explosions vs bloats, bullets vs the metal parts of zeds but almost everything else makes no sense, it's like I'm playing the division

>>145404392
There is no real logic. They just want certain classes to kill certain enemies, instead of letting the players come up with strategies. Plus this makes balancing easier for them, since instead of fixing a shit class they can just give everyone else shit damage against specific zed types.
>"What do you mean SWAT is shit he's the only one who does full damage to Gorefasts :^)"

>>145404302
The crawler (and assorted trash but specially crawler) 70% fire resistance is pure bullshit, no matter how you look at it

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>>145402973
Her character bio literally describes her as a white-collar worker bored of her cushy office job who revels with her fellow special snowflakes at nightclubs on the weekends. She's the "Strong empowered WOMYN who's too good for work and hates BORING PEOPLE" stereotype.

Anyone have the file that replaces the main menu theme with the one from the KFmod? update wiped it and I cant find the extra one I had

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oh my god
hopefully a week from now this will somehow not seem so shit
is it over?

>>145405080
Like I said, I haven't played yet. I'm downloading the update. Still just gonna use Classic Briar anyway.

>>145405465
Poor Filiaposter

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>>145405392

Here you go Mister.
General might die forever soon, so take good care of this copy.

https://mega.nz/#!wQpHAISY!lft7tfRrp8eLF4o4D8tkCbffJXX33IehvobjhxaB4J0

>>145405727
Thank you friendo and yeah Im afraid that may happen

>>145405563
Sorry, wasn't trying to sound aggressive.
Classic Briar, eh? Good taste.

>>145405920
I'll never eat black pudding again.

>/kfg/ gets TRIPWIRED

>this e3
This doesn't beat a friday night kebab.

i'm actually glad everyone is going apeshit over tripwire maybe they'll be forced to listen and do something about it

..............right?

>>145406353
Friday night kebabs are great

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>>145400620
I feel kinda dead inside after seeing this. Okay so far, let's count their fuck ups and guilty pleasures:
>Hans' bubble had no visible indicators when game first came out
>not releasing Sharp for a long time
>juggling around with FLeX technology which no one asked
>it was possible to parry a blow made by a behemoth with an industrial chainsaw with a butterknife
>releasing demo as a gimped excuse of a perk
>last 5 specimen auto-enrage
>taking a look at win-lose statistics in difficulties to back up their vision on boss balancing
>when this all happening Hans melee damage was 2-hitting everything
>making modifications literally harder to upload at workshop
>added a Claymore dlc, for another game's sale. made it overpowered then nerfed it to the ground when sales didn't go well
>releasing a VS mode that nobody asked for just for hogging resources of a modder later
>at VS mode you keep spawning outside of map
>gave us a glimpse of Sharpshooter and made Crossbow literally overpowered
>offperk Crossbow actually doing a better job then entire Demolitionist perk
>still Yoshiro defended Demolitionist being at a good spot and regarding their statistics it's the highest damage dealing perk on forums
>assumably added damage knockback to specimen "counter" zerkwalls
>knockback only made the power gap between perks larger, and those without mobility suffered only
>specimen spawning off from walls
>now we can break Hans' bubble after a year
>like after a year they added Sharp with plastered abilities from other perks
>half of the released perks went under an overhaul yet firebug is untouched
>now all perks can't deal proper damage because of resistances
>they announced at E3 that they're working on a hardware restricted shovelware based on KF2

>>145406665
Maybe. Even Overkill did kind of learn. They're still jews selling low-effort DLC but their next crates are going to be free to open. So that's slightly less jew-y, I guess.

>>145406728
oh and... ZEDconomy update for MT in EA...
how can I forget.

>>145406681
Now I want a kebab, but it's 1am here.

>>145406353

No, but it beats a friday night kebab, JUST.

>>145406353
I want a kebab :V

>>145406728
According to their Steam forum, they also won't have swat and martial artist ready for "full release" in the fall. Don't know how reliable it is.
>>145406979
Don't forget that they aren't just any microtransactions, they're CRATE MICROTRANSACTIONS. The absolute scummiest kind. And the skins can have different levels of wear, so even if you get the one you want, it can look like shit, so you better buy more keys goy :^)

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>>145407098
>>145406994
>tfw only good kebab place is an hour's drive away

Well look on the bright side, partners.

Full release in fall. That means November at the latest.
Full release means Early Access ends. Early Access ending means no more STAYING TUNED.

In other words, for better or for worse, by November's End, we will finally be free of Staying Tuned. The only silver lining I can see here.

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>want to gamble and potentially get some SWAT skins in mint condition
>know I'll get nothing but field tested 9mm's and MB500's when all I want is the SCAR and AK-12
I still don't get why Tripwire forces the CREATORS OF THE ITEMS THEMSELVES to still shelve out money and buy it themselves.

>>145407451
because the items creators should know how to get it 4FREE

>>145407658
I'm not going to whore myself out for someone to "gift" me weapon skins that I deserve.

>>145407349
>believing the release date this time
>thinking twi can make 2 perks withing 4 months after spreading themselves thinner still.

The legend of killing floor 2 (ea done right!™) will be taught to generations of developpers to come.

>>145407805
no, from the original files fám

>>145407871
This. They were six months late on Sharpshooter, how the hell are they going to finish up the remaining perks in less than that?

>>145388549
>we waited 4 months for one class and a shitty SJW fatass character

epic

>>145407871

Except SWAT & MA are confirmed for post-launch.

>>145408042
At least Alberts finally has someone to tip his fedora at.

Anyone here know how to make a good kebab? I'm hungry.

>>145408127
It's not that I don't believe you, but I would love to see a source on this. I keep seeing it thrown around but nobody has any proof. It really does seem like somethign they'd do, though.

>>145408319

It was on the TWI forums months ago, some time after the ROTP update and I honestly wish I had screencapped it.

Why can't I see any items in my inventory?

>>145408127
>>145408127
>10 perks promised december 2015
>full release announced at e3 2016 for fall 2016
>"full" as in, with 8 perks out of 10

My mistake, I was taught "full" and "incomplete" meant different things.

>You can carry RPG, C4, Deagle and Med Pistol now
Neat, too bad the deagle is shit now, maybe a Med SMG instead?

>>145407451
why don't they just gift untradable ones like tf2 does? are they too retarded or just trying to suck out as much money as possible from the playerbase?

>inb4 next E3 they announce Killing Floor 3
>the moment they announce it, it's available for Early Access purchase

>>145407349
>Full release in fall. That means November at the latest.
fall goes to dec 20
and we'll still be staying tuned for MA and swat for several months into 2017

>>145408774
I think they're just so incompetent they never even considered it.

Where the fuck are the NEW ZED SOUNDS?

Fleshpound was supposed to get new audio 2 patches ago...

>>145406728
>VS mode that nobody asked for
to be fair, a lot of people asked for them

>>145408774
The latter.

>>145407451
Have you at least made some good dosh out of it?

>>145408985
instead of the shitty sounding FP getting new sounds, the good sounding SC got shitty sounds

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>Added boss healthbar

REEEEEEE WHAT'S THE POINT OF COMMANDO NOW I WANNA BE HELPFUL TO THE TEAM BY TELLING THEM HOW MUCH HP HE HAS LEFT REEEEEEEE

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>>145388549

Again they go to E3, advertise the game and gives no fucks about the community during the rest of the year.

>>145408510
Well, their search only goes back 8 pages for posts which falls into April for Yoshiro. Guess I'll keep digging around.

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Well fellas, is there absolutely anything Tripwire has going for themselves so I am compelled to not uninstall KF2? Because if not, I think it's just using up space on my hard drive.

Also, anyone else here think about how much fun they had back when this game was only 4 perks and 3 maps? It felt like it was missing a lot, yet it still was ten times more fun than the horrible fucking mess we have now.

Oh well, there goes a company that used to be good down the road of full greediness.

>>145409309
>implying you told the team

>>145409203

So far I've made no money out of it because:
1. The update just came out.
2. The keys are for some reason not in the store yet (I doubt I even get a share of the keys at all.)
3. Even if the keys were out, the weapons from those USBs aren't tradable yet so I can't make any money off of that.

>>145409361
>Also, anyone else here think about how much fun they had back when this game was only 4 perks and 3 maps? It felt like it was missing a lot, yet it still was ten times more fun than the horrible fucking mess we have now.

Honestly, I take real comfort in the knowledge that whatever may lie ahead, I've a load of great fun with great people.
TW may ruin KF2, but those good memories are beyond their defiling reach.
I've really enjoyed all my time with everyone, that alone was worth the $30 I paid.

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>>145388549
I don't want to play this game.

>>145410102
then instead of updating, uninstall

>>145410168
I can't control myself.

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>>145388549

Oh snap, we almost forgot the official warning:

ALL UNITS BE ADVISED.
THIS WEEKEND WILL BE A FREE WEEKEND.
I SAY AGAIN, THIS WEEKEND WILL BE A FREE WEEKEND.
THIS IS NOT A DRILL, I REPEAT, THIS IS NOT A DRILL.

>>145408581
It will be full when you ____buy them as a DLC after release

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So I dedicated my second GPU to physX to test out flux because it lagged too much when being rendered on one GPU. This shit looks retarded
>pic related is what happens when you headshot them with a weak pistol

>>145410296
>inb4 they gather raw number data from this weekend and use to to say "see, see! Our new resistance system is working!!!!"

>>145410473
After a Zed bleeds out try shooting at the blood on the floor, see what happens

The railgun feels very unsatisfying to shoot.

Am I correct in assuming the electrical symbol is for baddies needing assistance to headshot and the bullet symbol is for piercing?

>>145410749
The electricity symbol means the aim assist (while looking down the scope) is on. Damage is halved in that mode compared to normal firing.

>>145410749
electrical symbol means there is aimbot when scoped
bullet symbol means there is no aimbot, but double damage

>>145410749

Basically?
Electic = Auto-lock but half damage.
Bullet = Manual but full damage.

Obviously, Bullet mode is the only correct answer for fighting bosses and big guys.
That said, auto-lock is awesome for taking out Sirens. You know? Those ugly screaming whores with tiny heads? Yeah, there you go.

>>145410749
Electric means lock-on, bullet means manual aiming
Lock-on deals half damage

For someone that just plays on normal and hard
Should i perk my sharpshooter with ballistic shock?
I dont actually feel the stability perk doing anything as stalkers will still survive 2 hits, sirens are walking tanks, and bloats need 2 too many headshots

>>145411181

Yes. That massive stun power makes a fucking HUGE difference when fighting Fleshpounds and Scrakes, you can wreck them before they can lay a hand on anyone, even on HOE, and especially when combined with REU.

>>145410473
I love it but flashlight make the blood look weird.

>>145410642
Yes, that's cool, but they need to tone down the decapitation. It would be great if they had partial decapitation like in Mordau.
https://youtu.be/p-B4AwgArwA?t=425

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>>145410473
ewwww blood!

>>145410296
>my shitty shoop still being posted around the Internet

God speed you gormless tosser.

Every time I try to join a server I get the sound like a popup came up and I hear the main menu music again but it just sits at the loading screen perpetually until I close the game entirely.

Anyone else have this?

>>145411972
I can't play anything but solo offline now.

Fuck this game.

It's been a few months since I've checked into this general.

Why is everyone mad?
Is the new update shit? Are they mad about VR? What is the deal?

>>145412105
New update added resistances which are shit.
>oh you wanted to shoot that bloat in the head? Sorry, bullets only do 30% damage to bloats now, guess you have to let your retard teammate detonate it :^)

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>start playing dota
>dead game
>start playing Payday 2 since the first was awesome
>dead game
>start playing KF2 since first was awesome
>dead game

Is there any escape?

so whats the general consensus on the resistance/weakness system?

>>145410043
>TW may ruin KF2, but those good memories are beyond their defiling reach.
Agreed. And more than anything, I take solace in the fact that KF1 is still there and it may never truly die. I can still have some good old fun with that game.

>>145412237
It's FUCKING AWFUL and singlehandedly broke this game

>>145412105
See >>145389254
Also
>Making a VR game when your year old early access game isn't even complete
>Completely murdering Berserker

>>145411972
>>145412086
They fucked over mods
you have to delete your documents folder

>>145412208
There's always Overwatch, I guess?

>>145412208
>dota
>dead

it's still part of the top 3 most played on steam and literally just got a major balance patch yesterday

>>145412365
I've been told this multiple times, just hoping I won't have to make a fourth revision.

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>>145388549

Does anyone have a screencap of the storepage for kf2 at 2015? i want to file a refund under the reasoning of "the devs literally lied about what their product would turn out to be", since they said it'd be out late 2015 and then ninja edited it to add a year. I already screencapped the storepage right now, and i'll wait until release to see if they hold true on their 10 perks statement. If they dont, that's just extra fuel for the refund train.


I advise you all to take similar action if you feel as strongly about this bullshit as i do.

>>145412614
Steam database might, Google / way back machine may have also cached them. Good luck anon.

>>145412191
>>145412308
Thanks, this update looks arse.

I didn't want more RPG elements, fuck.

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>crawlers can still pop out of nowhere and knock you into a corner for you to get stuck and die

Why have they not removed this cancer yet?

>>145412550
You should probably know going in that it has microtransactions. You get a crate with 4 random cosmetics (skins, sprays, emotes) every time you level up, and you can also buy the crates. But they're free to open once you have them, whether from levelling or buying them. There's also ingame currency you can get to buy a specific thing if you really want it. That's mostly gained from getting dupes in crates.
>>145412614
Post it if you find it, I was looking when they announced microtransactions, and couldn't find one.
>>145412785
Honestly, it comes across more than anything like they're just too lazy to do proper balancing, so they're going to force you to have certain classes.

>>145412707
>Try way back machine
>Won't get past the age check
God dammit

>>145412863
Thanks anon, I'm fine with micros but most games that add them in are usually a sign everything else is going to shit.

>>145412803
It encourages teamwork!

>>145412985
There's a snapshot from May 2015 on archive.is but you can't expand the early access blurb to see the "six months" part. Here's the link anyway. http://archive.is/P05YW
>>145413208
It doesn't bother me if it's done right. At least Overwatch didn't shoehorn them in after release, and they're free to open once you get the box. That's my biggest gripe with microtransactions, is when they do these fucking crates. They can't just sell you the item, they have to sell you keys to MAYBE get the item. Then they add in different qualities, to make your chances of getting the right one even lower.

>Get Sharp to 15
>Elite reloads don't affect the 9mm
As if the resistances weren't enough, fucking hell

Playing solo with sharpshooter is so hard. His weapons take ages to reload.

>>145413467
Yeah, the added rate of fire however does work on the 9mm.
I believe the SS REU doesn't apply to 9mm while GS does.
Consistency at its finest.

>>145413467
>using the 9mm after the update
Take out your knife, it does more damage than a 9mm right now

>>145413405
Have a bunch of friends playing OW so I might as well buy it, atleast I'll have fun with friends even if it sucks. Personally I blame Valve for their micros, they helped OVERKILL set up their system for Payday 2 which was a flop and inspired many other systems. I've heard good things are coming back to Payday though, they're trying to bring back the old fanbase they alienated. Additionally they are continuing support until the end of 2017 and are actually making some changes to their shitty engine.

>>145412985
>>145412614
I found one that's past the age gate from May last year.
http://web.archive.org/web/20150504152804/http://store.steampowered.com/app/232090/
>We know we’ve all seen games hit Early Access and seemingly never get to the point of Full Release, but our goal is to have KF2 out before the end of 2015.

>>145413825
To be fair Gunslinger is all about handguns but yeah it sucks
Also did they nerf ReU? When I have over 7 headshots as Sharp and miss one, I get sent back to 3 instead of 6

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You're great and should feel great., anons./spoiler]

This update sucks.

>>145413846
>take your knife
>after the resistances update
SAVE A LIFE
BIN THAT KNIFE LAD

>>145412863
>so they're going to force you to have certain classes.
Or just have team of sharpshooters that can kill everything easily.

>>145413591
It's one of the easiest perks now to solo next to medic.

>>145414030
Because you reach the max combo at 4 headshots.

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>>145409361
>>145410043
>could never play on /kfg/s servers
>could have had fun with you guys and never known
It hurts just a little bit

>>145414064
Reimu pls go beat Tripwire dev's asses till they accept to remove resists

>>145414194
you gotta be kidding me
the knife is way fucking better than the 9mm
ill fucking cut you anon

>>145414064
HEAL
SLUT

>>145414303

Honestly, if /kfg/ liquidates and I still somehow want to play KF2, I might make my own server.

I doubt many people would be able to play on it but it might be cool. At the very least I could ring up my brother back home and be like "Get in here Bruv, OK Guv?".

>>145414470
>ill fucking cut you anon
I bet syringe regens faster than you can damage me with that knife lol

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>>145413992
>http://web.archive.org/web/20150504152804/http://store.steampowered.com/app/232090/

you gorgeous motherfucker.

>>145411585
Man I cannot fucking wait for that. Hate that past the "beginner group" levels in Chiv the game becomes "nah brah nah it's not an exploit the devs intended me to spin in circles and bend over backwards!"

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fear... and-- LOATHING,

in

/kfg/.

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>>145414665

Are you me?

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>>145412208
Come play dirty bomb with us, anon.

>>145413825
>I believe the SS REU doesn't apply to 9mm while GS does.
9mm counts against sharp's ReU, but not for it, last I tried

>>145413992
>We see Early Access as an opportunity to involve you, the community, and actually incorporate your feedback as we balance and put the finishing touches on the game. For example, we know how to nail the feel of Killing Floor 2’s weapons, but perfect gameplay balance can only come from large scale play testing.
>So this is what we primarily want from Early Access and the Killing Floor community: help us balance the game right. We need as many players in the game as possible and your feedback to achieve this
Where did it go so wrong?

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>>145413992
>95% reviews for this game are positive
Where did everything go so wrong

>>145414030
They fucked the perk descriptions IIRC. Sharps one has slingers descript and vice versa.

>>145415232
We're at 81% on the current version. They fucked up hard to lose that much community support.

>>145413873
That had to do with Overkill/Starbreeze, I don't know what the difference between the two is anymore as I think they merged or something, buying the rights for the Payday franchise from 505 Games, so I suspect the microtransactions came from up there.

>>145414960
it would seem so.
God just thinking about that shit enrages me. I remember reading about it (somewhere on /v/ or /vg/ I think) and thinking it couldn't be as bad as people were talking about. And then I saw my first guy doing it... Fucking spinning in circles with his spine bent at 9 degrees walking backwards into you and shit. Makes my blood boil.

>>145415521
Starbreeze owns Overkill, much like Bethesda owns Id.

>>145415232
crates/microtransactions IN AN EARLY ACCESS GAME
VS mode being balanced so terribly that Elite VS on the workshop was genuinely more fun for both sides yet isn't whitelisted like the max players mut.
And now resistances, the new incap also fucked up medic weapons being able to leg stumble, weapon bashes body stumbling, knockdowns for demo/gunslinger, and basically everything else that made the game playable.

>>145415680
So thats the relationship between the two.

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>>145412208

>Play LOTV co-op, starting in December 2015
>Starts with just six characters and five maps
>Small game mode that's pretty rough but the core gameplay is actually really fun
>Supposed to be a tiny side project for bonus fun when you're not laddering

>Ends up becoming way more popular than expected, on one day has more players than competitive laddering
>Devs update every 1-2 months
>Small updates are a new map and some balance changers
>Bigger updates include new characters as well
>Devs add a Mutation mode that rotates new harder scenarios on a weekly basis
>Devs add a Mastery system to extend replayability
>Devs just released a big update with a hyped Zerg character that everyone wanted
>Already showing off the stuff coming in the next patch
>Actually listen to the community, mutations and masteries were forum suggestions
>Choose next characters for release based on popular demand, not arbitrary priority ranking
>Characters are still however released in a fair faction order (Protoss, Zerg, Terran) to try to prevent just one side getting all the stuff before everyone else
>Each patch buffs the AI in new ways making it more challenging and intelligent but without letting it use gimmicks or unfair cheats


It's like the polar opposite of KF2.

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>>145414064
Please come home, we miss you so much..

>>145414064
BLAST FROM THE PAST

>>145414064
post butte

>steam sales in a week
>will buy senran kagura
>use big anime titties to cleanse the pain of kf2

>>145416985
>broke
>CPU is fried
>just bought Overwatch right before it died, and never got to play
>emulation tablet is broken
>old DS Lite I was using to play Castlevania on my flashcart is on its way out
I'm not even sure how I'm going to cleanse this pain, because everything I love is breaking.

>>145417318
There is a Light at the end of this Tunnel

how good is SS compared to the other perks? where does it rank?

>>145418579
And what's that?

>>145418616
Death.

>>145418616
A flamethrower.

>>145418603
well seeing as how support, demo, slinger, firebug, and zerk are all shit and sharp has aimbot and stuns and damage for days, probably pretty high.

>>145418668
Thank you jesus. Tuck me in and let me die.

>>145418603
current rankings
okay tier: med, sharp, com
bad tier: sup, guns, demo
shit tier: zerk, firebug

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>>145418603
Like this:

Sharpshooter
***POWER OVERWHELMING GAP***
Everyone else

Seriously, it's insanely strong.
Probably the only perk that is almost completely unaffected by the Zed resistances, at least relative to the others.
I strongly recommend playing now and enjoying it as much as you can, because as soon as TW realise that it's actually fun to play, or as soon as the PvP Zeds start bitching about it, it'll be nerfed into the ground along with everything else.

SS is honestly THE EYE OF GOD right now, it's that strong.
In the land of the blind, the sharp-eyed man is King.

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>>145418924
>firebug
>shit tier
>commando
>okay tier

>>145418942
they're pretty bad against stalkers, who take a couple of bodyshots before going down
besides that, they're pretty powerful

>>145419108
resistances
shrapnel nerf

>>145418924
>zerk went from god tier to shit tier
explain this shit to me my dude

>>145419108

Fire resistances have really fucked Firebug.
The other day I was playing HOE and a full mag of Caulk wouldn't kill three crawlers. It was unreal.

>>145419126

Yeah that's about the only thing I can think of.

>>145419189

Skills have been cut back significantly, can't be fast AND tanky at the same time, also pretty much all trash zeds have slash and bludgeon resists now.

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>"just adapt to these resistances, it adds an rpg role to the game"
Fuck you TW cocksuckers, this isn't some pokemon game. This wasn't a thing in KF1 and it shouldn't be in KF2, its not like the game gives you many windows of opportunities to just pick your fights to begin with when enemies charge in your face.
What do you expect me to do when a herd of stalkers get ready to slap me into a corner where I can barely hurt them at point blank, ask someone to deal with them? By that time i'd be dead or burnt through several shots of ammo just to get rid of them and defend myself, only for more enemies to flip in my face.
Giving enemies a weakness I can deal with, but don't give them several resistances below 0.5 and think that's balanced. Shit like fleshpounds are an exception because they're few and meant to be a big obstacle like mini-bosses which typically require your attention unless you want an early wipe.

>>145407349
>Early Access ending means no more STAYING TUNED
You don't just stay tuned once bruv, you stay tuned forever

>>145419189
No hp
All zeds resist melee
Parry blocks 60% of damage
No knockdown
Pulv cant kill sirens/husks 1 shot
Zed time skills are shit

>>145419189
passives replaced with skills that you can only choose some of
smash stumbles instead of knockdowns

and most importantly, resistances

>>145407451
We get it anime girl, you made swat skins, you can stop posting about it now.

>>145419586
shut up white bitch

>>145419189
Every zed up to sirens has 50% or more melee resist.
But that's okay, clots/cysts/slashers only have 30% knife resist!
No movespeed
No knockdown
Less health

>>145419126
I've been grabbing a deagle alongside my loadout, just pull it out and bodyshot the stalkers down with it.

>>145410473
Make some 60 fps webms

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>>145419586
I know right? DUDE SWAT LMAO
SWATcucks are annoying as fuck.

>>145419743
i just tried it before and it looks like a cartoon fountain
it looks like shit, just gibs looks completely better

>>145419926
Doesn't matter if it looks shit, just make some webms for us.
With blood rolling down the slopes, with bloat guts flying everywhere, etc

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>>145419294
>firebug was the go to guy for clearing crawlers
>even got it in the xp description to clear them
>they now resist it so much that even husks prior are surprised how well they take it
Shits crazy

How fucking hard is it to make a fun enjoyable game for everyone?
>you have lots of different zeds starting from literal biological trash to charging hulking meatgrinders
>you have many different classes to pick from - feel free to choose according to your playstyle and preference
>you have tons of weapons ranging from cheap shit to marvels of human engineering that cost a fortune but are effective against almost anything

Seriously it's a simple formula. What is their final aim with all this nonsense?

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>>145421010
>What is their final aim with all this nonsense?

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>evaction point
>trying to snipe last clot from across the map with pistol
>after the first hit he just disappears into thin air
>clot grabs me from behind
>it's the same clot

spooky fucking update

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You know what the worst part about all of this is? Tripwire are probably patting themselves in the back after all of this, thinking "Well, we gave them what they asked for! Releasing things we were trying in a beta preview so they could test things before the live update! They can't really complain about it!", without realizing that:

>This update, like all others, came months after the previous one, with no quality of life or small balance patches between the two, so the problem of the game becoming stagnant soon after every update is still there
>The beta preview served no purpose other than for them to feel good about giving us something a couple of days earlier, since barely any input was taken from the playerbase so that substantial and meaningful changes could be made to the live update. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt with the resistances stuff when it was still an opt-in, but not now
>Even with all the backslash these resistances have had in places where people aren't afraid to speak their mind for fear of censoring or it isn't a fanboy central (read: not TWI's forums), these changes will probably not be reverted at all for months, and even then we may see small changes, since they appear to be so proud of their code now including a few extra numbers

TWI is everything bad about gaming in the current era. They almost remind me of EA.

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time to stress test

>>145422665
rip

>>145422665
>INI Override
You set that shit to 200 bodies I hope

>>145422850
50

>>145423087
Let the bodies hit the floor

COLLAPSING

>>145423579
I'm using a 970 with a 660ti as the physx GPU. I'm hoping the 1070 that I'm going to replace my 970 with lets me run this game with 200 bodies.

>>145403632

No you stupid faggot, they're meant to block all your shots for the swarm coming behind them and give you an obstacle to navigate around

holy fuck demo feels under whelming as holy fucking fuck fuck what the fuck

>>145424593
And you think a decapped Bloat still doesn't serve that purpose? Go play KF1 on HoE, see how annoying a single Bloat can sometimes be when things are coming from all sides and that huge bag of fat is still walking and covering your shots to all the crap behind it even without a head, even when it often took just one or two shots from anything to decap them.

The whole point was that you were supposed to headshot it as soon as possible so his body would eventually fall down and allow you to shoot the smaller stuff once it died. A risk-and-reward situation where focusing a Bloat before other things could probably save your life in the longer term because he would be out of the way sooner, and the low head health complemented that.

Making the amount of headshots needed to decap one higher now shows not even TWI was aware of what the Bloat's purpose was. Now, focusing on one is often counterproductive because it takes way more shots to decap it, so you may as well leave it alone until other stuff is clear. And it's fucking retarded.

>>145425126
in KF1 if you had a sharp on your team you'd never have bloats still alive
you can instakill on headshot bloats with some of the pistols as sharp

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>>145421792
>we made a test build for you guys!
>all of three days, only hotfixs didn't even begin to address the meat of the issue i.e. mona/rpg resistances in a horde shooter is retarded, and goes explicitly agaisnt previous design for some (eg crawlers and fire)

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP

This knockback seriously make the game unenjoyable for me. Who thought it was a good idea to give little crawlers the ability to push someone's entire body like this?

Like, I get slowing them down by chomping their legs or something, but the knockback on Zeds is literally cancer.

>>145428225
this.
crawlers + stairs = deathtrap by flying into a zed gangbang squad

Just got an update and an E3, and already dead, thanks SHITWIRE.

>>145430127

Is it just me, or did TW break the front page of the Community Hub to try to hide all the bad shit going down?

>>145430498
It's broken for me too.

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>>145430498
i'm beyond this shit, man

>>145430498
>Sharpshooter is finally out
>2.9k ingame
wew lad

>vr

it's the third time this fucking update redownloads itself. what the fuck, steam.

>>145431267
don't forget the upcoming FREE WEEKEND
because those have repeatedly been a long-term solution for the game's dwindling population, not just a 4-day band aid

someone post the new female

>>145431970

One sec

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how to make better webm

i recorded it at 720p and had to downscale it to this just to fit it

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Man, it felt good changing my "It has quite a few problems, but at least the gameplay is still fun" review on Steam to one that calls complete bullshit on this game and Tripwire for this recent crappy update.

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>>145431970
It's another edgy cunt, but this time australian and more fashion-forward instead of french

I just want that cool female soldier who wore the beret and visor, but instead we get this...

>>145432773
Post them on pomf.io and don't set a file size limit.

>>145432950
that's not half bad

>>145433053

It's a big improvement over Ana.
While I hate the tumblr colour options she has, it annoys me when people post that and pretend like they're the default.
At least unlike Ana, she has four different hairstyes that don't look like they just came out of a spray paint can.

>>145432776
same here, this update really is the last straw.
I can't even bring myself to even try the 2 'new' maps because I played them before when the game wasn't complete ass.

>>145432950
Brood must have a tattoo fetish.

>>145432987
https://u.pomf.is/fybgdh.webm

>>145432950
coalburner/10

this game punishes so fucking hard if you don't join on the first wave the way dosh scales is really awful

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>>145434571

>Playing on HOE
>Have $921
>Get swarmed and killed
>Cash drops down to $721
>You lose money for dying

Fucking hell there goes my cash flow hedge.

>>145432773
Limit them to 10 seconds tops, bit-rate 3000-3500, check both options for better quality/compression, these settigs gave me best results for under 3mb limit

So is this it?
Is this actually the end of /kfg/?

Is this how /kfg/ dies?
With thunderous shit updates?

new scrake sounds?

>>145438382

Nothing lasts forever anon.

>>145438513
yep
they're shit now

47% recent

yeah i've been here over a year now. might come back if I get a new idea or if something changes.
I barely even play KF2 anymore.

this game is fucking ruined. this is what happens when you realise one fucking perk at a time, 8 months behind schedule.

every single game i've joined is literally nothing but level 0 sharpshooters. it's fucking unplayable matchmaking wise.

>>145438382

We believed in Killing Floor 2, but TWI didn't believe in Killing Floor 2.

At least the trailer looks nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm7NrYHrCKc

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I can't believe I'm actually saying this.
I honestly can't, but, well, three things.

First, TW seem hell-bent on crashing this game with no survivors.
Second, I need a co-op game to enjoy while I wait for KF2 to not be shit.
Third, the game I have in mind just recently announced Ron Perlman as a playable character, and I fucking love that guy.

So I'm just gonna say it. The summer sale is coming up.
If it was on sale for 90%, including necessary DLC, would it be worth getting Payday 2?

Go ahead and call me a faggot, just please also answer my question while you do.

>>145440263
if you're bored of kf2 you'll probably get just as bored with payday 2. even with OP perk builds the game engine and ai is boring to play against. and in regards to paytowin DLCs at least tripwire isn't fucking their fans over on purpose.

>>145439656
It looks nice because they spent more time making it than working on the update.

>>145439656
>1 map and 2 classic playable characters is considered a "pack"
>Only 5 very small CONTENT PACKS within 1 year of EA release
>"Award winning community maps"
wew, hostile is fine but containment station is anything but award winning.

this might be a really dumb question, but wasn't kf2 supposed to be released in full like november last year?

or did i just imagine that

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>>145439656
>1 perk, 1 shit character and 2 maps they didn't even make considered a "pack

>>145440831
Kino sei des

Am i still on beta branch or there was no perk level reset?

>>145442719
there was no perk level reset
the one blunder you can count on twi not doing in kf2

>>145438571
Why did they do things to Scrake noises

I can barely hear the new 1999 LEGO Mindstorms motor powering up his chainsaw at 22dB