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Junethack is ongoing for the rest of June: https://junethack.net/
/rlg/ clan: Just kidding, there isn't one.

Poschengband 4.0.2 released: http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=111187&postcount=195

DCSS Trunk Updates: http://crawl.develz.org/wordpress/trunk-updates-25-may-2016

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Webterminal
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm online with shared map and tons of other roguelikes in a simple online package! (USA Only)
http://roguenex.us

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/pkf1qnuZ

Previous thread: >>145049448
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>quest to kill Jabberwocky
>go to woods
>no Jabberwocky
neat
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Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's play our best today!
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>>145180587
Don't you need the Vorpal Blade for that?
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Is Eustacio dangerous for a lvl 6 Troll Monk? I think... Im going for it. Hes asleep. Candy from a baby.
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>>145181110
The faster you can kill him, the less dangerous he is.
If you let him summon imps and blink you may want to evacuate.
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>>145181284
Had javs of poison, javs of pen and ice wand to deal with the summons. Hes dead as hell now.
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>>145181441
>dealing with the summons

why?

just kill him, and they disappear
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>>145180627
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Is Cataclysm the only good roguelike with an overworld rather than a single deep dungeon?
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>>145181575
Yeah well, I tried to kill him outright, but he blinked after the poisoned jav hit, summoned after i missed with net. So pen javs and ice wand cleaned his clock well enough. i wasnt injured at all. But now Prince Ribbit is in view... IM GOING IN
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>>145181967
URW
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>>145181967
>good roguelike with an overworld
Elona, DF adventure mode, ADOM

I am not personally a fan of any of these games, but they have see enough discussion that some people obviously find them fun.
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>>145182813
Poschengband, Qud, there's a fair amount unless you specifically want sandbox type.
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Thanks rat king! Also thanks for upgrading my night vision.
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>Thread resurrects after dying

Literally not a roguelike
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>day 146
>thread died today and shitposting was rampant
>still no signs of the prophet
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>>145184064
Felids
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>>145184064
Amulet of life saving
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>>145183708
A nice side bonus of clearing the rat cave.
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>trove
>needs grand grimoire
>go grab nearest book
>it's a grand grimoire

alright
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>>145180587
Jabberwocky is the title of the poem;
Jabberwock is the creature itself.
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>>145185941
I wish I had a Snickers-snack.
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>>145180447
Jeez, I work one weekend and you depressed faggots despondently let the thread die.
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>>145186637
Fuck off!
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Why is there no more cum in the OP?
/rlg/ isn't /rlg/ without cum and you know it!
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dumb memeposters
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>>145187860
Yeah that meme was really funny for a negative amount of time.

Glad you put it in the OP back then, anon. Good work.
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>>145188065
>>145188103
Thank (You).
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If dicks was my dad this would have never happened
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I could raise an army with all the guns I got. And I have no idea which one is good or bad.
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>>145190038
>not playing with generic guns mod

good luck
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>>145190038
order of importance

>low recoil
>high accuracy
>everything else
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>>145190038
They say if you show a crawl-dev an image like this, it will be like holding a silvered cross against a vampire, or a brand of cold iron against a nymph.
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>get mesmerized
>pulled into own thundercloud
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>>145181967
Have you not abandoned everything in your life to get into Elona yet, anon?
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>>145192330
FR: Killing Geryon and blowing the horn runs a local Elona executable and shifts focus to that window
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>>145193713
>Killing Geryon and blowing the horn
That's necrophilia, anon.
Sick.
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>>145185016
smoked meat is better
>Nutrition wise
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>>145194146
*Killing Geryon and blowing her horn
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>>145193713
>elona is literally a hell from which you can never escape
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>>145190038
the autism is real, no wonder no one plays CDDA anymore.
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>>145194240
smoked meat has less anti-scurvy shit in it
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>>145194416
Smoked - Nutrition: 42
Dehydrated - Nutrition: 20

you need to eat two to be where smoked is = waste of food.
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>Shadow Of The Wyrm

wtf do you do with the wildflowers?
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>>145191682
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>>145194821
But anon, I just told you
you get 42 points of nutrition from one piece of meat when you eat the smoked
but you also get only one portion of RDA
meanwhile you craft two dehydrated meat per piece of meat
and you get 40 nutrition per piece of meat, which is just two less than the smoked one, but with double the vitamins!

>>145195197
there's a woman that collects flowers in the town I remember
the color she wants should change with each game
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>>145195302
my face when i die 10 times in 2 minutes inside a random roguelike.
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>>145195418
can you make potions with wildflowers?
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>>145195858
I don't know anon
I played it for like twenty minutes
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>>145195418
>double the vitamins
hmm but you forgot the multivitamins... i have like 1k of them. Smoked meat + multivitamins in case of deficiency.
Also if you can get slow metabolism = win.

Using this strategy you can stock up on food for a very long time, also spider bassements for meat collecting.
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>tfw in a muddle about roguelikes to play
>just beat PCB and a good 40 hours of that over two weeks is more than enough for me
>played a shitload of DCSS during the tournament and took a crack at the new gods in trunk; so tired of that
>played enough Dyna earlier in the year that the thought of #naming potions in a shop still gives me the fits
>too soon to go back to Sil or IA- the content that is there is great, but playing it too much sours the replay value

I come to you for assistance, /rlg/. Where should I go from here? I have played a lot of Brogue in the past, and enough ToME and Elona that I know they are not for me.
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>>145196941
Looks like cata is all thats left for you
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>>145196941
Cogmind? Maybe. $$$
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>>145196941
You have reached the end, anon.
It is time.

Time for you to enjoy the outside world.
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>>145196941
How has Demon been lately?
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>>145196941
Yes, its time you make your own roguelike.
Feel the true pain of roguelikes.
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Are the gauntlets worth buying? I'm a lvl24 monk of life for frame of reference. Also, that's my current gear.
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>>145197465
Well, you'll get 2 * number of blows extra damage.

You should take your body armor (and current gloves) off for more ac, though.
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>>145197720
Oh, shit, you're right. I thought I wasn't losing AC unless it gave me a message about my armor being too heavy. Thanks.
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>>145196941
You need the CoQ
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>>145197127
>>145197242
Haven't tried CataDDA and demon yet.

For Cata: Any mods other than the ones in the pasta which would make the game less of a bloated POS? Someone mentioned Generic guns in the thread.

>>145197205
Luckily, some kind anon uploaded their copy. I would just have to spend some time seeing if I can make it playable without the mouse.
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>>145196941
Literally Demon
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I've never seen the original, but this looks really good.
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>>145197242
New update soon. Gonna have relic upgrades and shit
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>>145198725
That's hella good.
>5d7+31 with long sword weight, mana brand, and |Ca
Nice. What character is that?
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>>145191682
Hahahaha!

>>145198725
Wow what a weapon, is this a 'band?
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>>145198945
I made another demon/craft priest after splatting one embarrassingly to petshop a few days ago.

So the blessed part is very nice too.
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Intrinsic get! Unfortunately this one is rather useless.
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>>145181967
>is cataclysm good
no

ADOM, PCB, Qud, Tome2 have overworlds
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>>145199187
Wow. If that had /*, it would be literally the perfect weapon.
Still |Ca and Force might mean that you use that for the rest of the game anyway.
>+2 Str/Wis
Icing on the cake.
How's your damage with it?
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I'm running a formicid right now. Should I go with Chei or Oka?
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>>145199559
If you're a big guy, go Fo^Ru.
Oka
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>>145188103
hey it wasn't just that anon
i put it in the op once or twice too

i love cum
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>>145199657
Yeah, but at least you have a nice image.
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>>145194240
but smoking takes more resources

all you need for dehydrated meat is the OP-as-fuck "Foodco buddy hooked up to car's electrical system"
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>>145199480
Previous damage was around 70 with a vampiric quarterstaff, so a huge improvement.
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>>145199813
Literally >5x the damage.
And it vamps too, sometimes.
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>>145198461
i'll throw another vote in for Generic Guns
there are eight billion guns that all do the same shit because the only people contributing are spergy gun nerds or something

you don't need to download these mods separately, they're options included in cata that you can turn on/off when you create a world
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Okay this time it's a life monk and it's going to be the mpa version. First up, the boss of stronghold. I actually haven't been killing him since I thought the first boss was supposed to be azog because the old pastebin told me stronghold didn't have a boss
Also I guess world map is sort of irrelevant.
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>>145200240
the old pastebin was written before 4.0.0 when there was no stronghold and the first dungeon was a level 1 Camelot
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>>145200068
>playing dda and turning off the bloat
Literally missing the point of the game.

Does the mod make it easier to find a matching gun and ammo? Guns are already OP so I'd avoid that if it does.
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>>145199813
jeez that's very nice
are those 5d7 the base dice when unequipped, or do you have some class and/or item traits affecting the dice? That's huge dice if it's the weapon base.

And +31 in the to-dam enchantment, very very nice, far beyond what you can get at the town service. Too bad you're probably going to get some of that disenchanted before you reach the point of wearing casual double or triple luxury rDisenchant
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>>145200240
Did you walk the world map at level 12 to set every dungeon as a recall point? Absolute madman.
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>>145200516
i'm not actually sure how much easier it makes it

i only played a few games before it and I always just left my huge pile of 20 non-matching guns in a pile on the floor because FUCK sorting through all that shit to figure out which one was best
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>>145199628
Crashing this build, with no survivors
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>>145200740
MPA-PCB has every dungeon available for recall and every town(except Zul) available for recall at birth.
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>>145200740
no he's playing mpa-pcb which removed the requirement to visit a dungeon before recalling to it or a town before teleporting to it
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>>145200240
>you can recall any dungeon you want in mpa-pcb

BASED
A
S
E
D
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>>145197242
i dropped demon because of its nonstop pokemon references.
i'm not five years old and i'm playing roguelikes for their difficulty. i don't want to be constantly reminded of a shitty game that ruined JRPG's forever.
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Who needs luck anyway? Wand of striking to the rescue! For reference, the final room was a giant throne room, and yes, the giants in there spawn with boulders.
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>>145201658
>nonstop pokemon references
Like what? I literally can not think of any pokemon references and I've played both games a lot.
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Well damn, he was really easy. Time to go kill Azog.
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>>145202525
desu Azog is less scary then Meng Huo

he's +10 speed and has way more melee damage but he never summons shit or does anything other than try to bop you, so you know you can always just get away if it turns out you're not strong enough
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>>145202525
what game is this
by the way i'm retarded
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>>145202709
poschengband
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>>145202709
pcb
and we already knew that anon
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>>145198461
i only have the old alpha 3
:(
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>>145198254
Isn't CoQ unfinished?
>>145200516
Most people seem to think that taking out the bloat and giving the game a point would make it a lot better.
>>145202806
Check the archives.
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>>145203176
coq is unfinished and the main quest line isn't completed yet but apparently only ~89 people have actually gotten to the end of the current content

i'm not one of them but I splatted at the bottom of Bethesda once after successfully killing all the troll bosses
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I noticed the pasta didn't have any suggestions on a good relic for a new player.

And these descriptions aren't that helpful for "the most important choice you will make".
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Allright /rlg/ Im drunk
Is the best course of action to ram straight into these turrets yes or yes?
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>>145203176
hmm found it in the archives but i think the link is down...

yeah coq is unfinished but still its awesome.
If anyone wants the latest i can give a link.
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>>145204251
Doesn't CoQ kill you at XL13 if you don't register it or something?
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>>145204069
Titan's Fist Veil Tank
Take Counterattack + Storm Veil, get a Fairy
Level only Vitality on level up
Grab as many veils from other demons as you can, and watch everything kill themselves on you

>>145204206
Hell yes
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>>145204206
why are the turrets shooting their own searchlites
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>>145204206
It worked turrets are either destroyd or out of ammo

>>145204519
Because experimentalism
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>>145204904
>Because experimentalism
what
are you high
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>>145204380
???
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>>145204904
Oh shiiiit not all out of ammo :DD
Morality : Dont play roguelikes if you are drunk
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first thing i see when i run poschengband is ORA ORA ORA XD le jojo meme right on the main menu.
first thing that happens when i try playing DDA is tons of files were corrupted for no reason
first thing that happens when i try playing unreal world is a horrible game breaking bug where half the fucking planet disappeared beneath my feet
when i try playing demon, there's a reference to pokemon in my very first battle

why can't i find any good roguelikes
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>>145205146
well at least you died comfortably
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>>145205181
>when i try playing demon, there's a reference to pokemon in my very first battle
what reference please respond
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>>145205181
Why don't you play Sil?
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>>145205282
It's super effective! It's not very effective...
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>>145205181
>there's a reference to pokemon in my very first battle
explain
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>>145205096
It has an anti-pirating mechanism that kills you upon reaching XL13.
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>>145205350
Oh lmao I completely overlooked that
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>>145205324
i'll try
>>145205360
>>145205350
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>>145202653
Hah I didn't even need to phase away or anything, Azog this time around was really easy.
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>>145188652
Funfact: Dicks, by virtue of being Spanish, shares genes with you.

Sadly you only inherited Assguter's Faultness.
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>>145205401
see for yourself
>unibytes dot com
/De.vMzSIle0Lqw-Us4P3UgBB

bottom wait.

btw if anyone could re-share a link of cogmind that would be epic, havent tried the new-ish alphas.
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>>145205995
I think someone posted one in one of the last threads
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>>145205956
hello I am vinnie
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>>145206129
yeah i know 6 days ago...
i think the link is down, wont show anything
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>>145205181
>first thing i see when i run poschengband is ORA ORA ORA XD le jojo meme right on the main menu.
damn nigga you need to chill out
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>>145201658
>autism
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>>145206348
what makes you think i'm not "chill"
all i did was uninstall after that, it's not a big deal. it's cool if you like memes in your games but i don't

forgot to mention DDA had memes in the character creation menu too, "pics or it didn't happen" specifically. so the fact the game was corrupted is not so much of a loss
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Cya
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>>145206616
>>145205181
Clearly fun is not for you.
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>>145206616
references != memes
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>>145206736
quote from reddit
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Another 15 runer down, this time in trunk. I think Gargoyles are too strong. Innate rElec and rPois++ AND +20 natural armor? Sign me up.
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>>145206708
memes and pokemon references stopped being fun when i was 12

do you enjoy the show robot chicken? it has lots of those, it's like a roguelike TV show practically.
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It's that time of the yeek again.
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One of these is not like the others.
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>>145206786
I would love to know how you would have reacted if you had not seen that, continued to play, and eventually run into Dio Brando deep in one of the dungeons. Or if you had played a monk and the first time you saw that was when you tried the Double Attack move. Would you have abandoned your character in your outrage?
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>>145207131
And here's the sheet. I got totally fucked on rings, had absolutely nothing good to wear. At least my resistances were immaculate.
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>>145207256
dio is literally in the game? that's so disgusting.
these devs are just shameless.

does he scream IT IS I, DIO XD and do a meme dance?
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>>145205995
>Sorry, service not allowed
That link doesn't work for me.
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Saturday evening shitposting, the usual
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>>145207409
No but he can "ZA WARUDO". There's also petshop in the game.
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>>145207409
He asks you how many breads you've eaten in your life.
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>>145207409
He does, just because Chris knew it would piss you off. You have to remember this is not one of the latest in a series of variants that goes back over 20 years that has tried to stuff in pretty much all the content it can find , it was made to take advantage of whatever hot new memes the devs could find.
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>>145207137
you should take all that not-chill and write a roguelike about slaying the fun god
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>>145207541
does he throw tractors at you and make troll faces
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>>145207443
try again, maybe your isp is retarded.
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>>145207790
I think you mean ROAD ROLLAS
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isn't there an actual jojo roguelike where you play as that time rewindy guy

how come we never talk about it, is it because it's japanese only
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Should I use a Huo Shuo over my Echeneis for this?
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>>145207973
use pikachu
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>>145207809
Am I entering this correctly?
>>145208061
I don't have a Raicho.
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>>145205181
Not being able to ignore trivial things that have no direct gameplay impact in favor of actual gameplay, and in fact ignoring the gameplay itself in favor of them, is a symptom of autism.
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>>145207973
yes
If you have an electric demon like a pikachu that should also be good in there
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>>145207973
>not keeping your frontliner spot empty and summoning the best one on the fly
Oh shit nigger what are you doing
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wew lad
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>>145183708
>followers in Cata:DDA
>"Hey asshole move it I want [item]"
>while I'm driving
>fucker isn't even strapped into a seat because of the horribad AI
>starts smashing the fucking console in front of him in an autistic shitfit
>"Car's battery has died!"
With the future generator destroyed I quickly shot him and it was over
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>>145208159
yes,
lol fucked by isp.
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>>145208326
You have my interest, anon
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>>145208326
ey yo ponyposter after enough times of making alt accounts for attention people are going to catch on
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>>145208179
and enjoying memes and references is a symptom of reddit
check out robot chicken dude you'll like it a lot
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I can't tell if this is good or bad. Worth trying to link with someone for?

>>145208295
This is literally my first character, following >>145204508 's recommendations. I'll take that under advisement though.
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Based acquirement.
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>>145208326
w e w
e
w

Are you still livin? Kinda tempted to watch.
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>>145208456
I'd never use such a tacky name

>>145208326
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>>145208489
Diehard is good for keeping you and your party members alive. But since you're a veil tank and you'll probably be taking a ton of hits every round it won't really save you if your health gets too low, but it's still alright. What you really want is malleable from a slime instead, so that your healers can keep you alive better
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>>145208763
Thanks, AlexDCSS25.
>>145208843
So put it on my Profane Wisp maybe?
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>>145208456
fuck off i have always used Ketziah
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>>145209067
GIB
DUMP
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>play elona
>make comfy house
>check random moongate
>have autism epiphany
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>>145207409
dio also has a small chance drop The Stone Mask, and if you wear it it turns you into a vampire permanently
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Should I buff my wisp or save up to get Dash from my goblin?
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>>145209067
In the past, before currency, it was optimal to spread diehard around to practically all your demons. But now with currency demons are expendable as fuck and you'd just be wasting money that you need to give yourself veils. So don't bother
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>>145209203
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>>145209347
Dash is good. You should prefer to buff your player character before your other demons
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>>145209740
>Dash is good.
I don't know I've always been more of a pinkie guy myself
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>that's so "more points in UC than levels"
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>>145209740
Should I get dash or swiftness? I have the luxury of choice.
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>>145208540
that's pretty nice for level 25
nice to find one of the valkyrie egos before it is outclassed
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>>145210319
Holy shit, armor I can actually wear and isn't total trash?
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>>145210248
Both help for running away. I've never really used either on a veil tank, but dash sounds really good since it should let you move several spaces in one turn, meaning you'll take less ranged attacks when closing the distance to an enemy group
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>>145210498
>armor I can actually wear
yeeeeeah not really
look at your AC with it
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>>145210662
it's definitely worth wearing Hitholmir
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>>145211593
>losing 40 points of AC for AcElFi
I disagree
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Oh wow. That did a LOT more damage than I expected.
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>>145211709
Right now it'd only be about 15, technically.
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>>145211841
Uh.
your AC is shit, what class are you? I have 100 as a monk at level 27.
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>>145211771
no one cares about your first fifteen minutes of the game
stop asking for advice on level one demons
fuck off and play the game and stop blogging
come back when you've invested 1000 hours and have something interesting to say
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>Poor bastard has Swamp
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MonkMummyChallenge/MonkMummyChallenge.txt
Guess his third rune is gonna be the elven one
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>>145211957
>your
Stop assuming this, really. I'm not even one of the original parties in the reply chain.

That said, from the code you get 39 AC at level 26 from your body slot naked as a monk. Hithlomir gives 24, therefore you lose 15 wearing it.
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>>145212017
No bullying new players.
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>>145211771
Rip
peegachos ain't nothing to fuck with
they're glass canons though so they aren't that good as a party members unless they're modified
also for veil tanks I usually have two healers out at all times, copy fairy's healing charm over to a gandayah or ukobach

>>145212017
fucking rude lad
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>>145212017
NEVER FUCKING REPLY TO ME AGAIN UNLESS YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING TO THE THREAD
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>>145212017
Just filter it or quit bitching.
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Is Shadow of the Wyrm fun?

Will playing it briefly silence my existential dread?
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>>145212401
>Is Shadow of the Wyrm fun?
Eh.
>Will playing it briefly silence my existential dread?
Yes. But at what cost?
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>>145211709
the comparison between the two screenshots didn't look like that big of a drop, and 4 stealth and rDark is a lot of not dying
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>>145212186
>also for veil tanks I usually have two healers out at all times, copy fairy's healing charm over to a gandayah or ukobach
Oh that's a good idea, thanks. I'll try that next time.
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who else learned something from the mumo challenge today
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>>145212574
I hate philosophy
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>>145211771
disregard bullies, post content
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>>145212632
Then you'll love physics

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_constant
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>>145212749
>all those buffs
wut magicks u got
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I FOUND IT GUYS
I FINALLY FUCKING FOUND IT
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>>145212768

batshit crazy
The argument can be used to explain why the conditions happen to be just right for the existence of (intelligent) life on the Earth at the present time. For if they were not just right, then we should not have found ourselves to be here now, but somewhere else, at some other appropriate time. This principle was used very effectively by Brandon Carter and Robert Dicke to resolve an issue that had puzzled physicists for a good many years. The issue concerned various striking numerical relations that are observed to hold between the physical constants (the gravitational constant, the mass of the proton, the age of the universe, etc.). A puzzling aspect of this was that some of the relations hold only at the present epoch in the Earth's history, so we appear, coincidentally, to be living at a very special time (give or take a few million years!). This was later explained, by Carter and Dicke, by the fact that this epoch coincided with the lifetime of what are called main-sequence stars, such as the Sun. At any other epoch, so the argument ran, there would be no intelligent life around in order to measure the physical constants in question — so the coincidence had to hold, simply because there would be intelligent life around only at the particular time that the coincidence did hold!
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>>145212970
where's that anon who keeps posting cap_of_intra.jpg when you need him
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>>145212879
he's a monk of craft
he died last week

>>145212970
Indra is not really rare, you know
it's just really good
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>>145180447

>playing DCSS
>transform into bat
>lur giant spores into hordes of enemies

Feels good man.
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>>145212879
the wild weapon ego turns a weapon into a 1dHuge that applies and removes random awesome buffs every time you hit with it
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>>145212970
TO MOUNT OLYMPUS!
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>>145213051
Oh you mean the anthropic principle?

It's a part on the multiverse theory, sure.
It's a fun read like the theory of everything and string theory.

The thing is that you might as well talk about gay magical horses and it'd have the same impact on the world because those are all theories and they cannot be proven
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>>145213064
I'm here!
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>>145212970
>>145213064
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>>145213397
that's thranduil you fuck
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>>145212768
High level theoretical physics might as well be philosophy
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>Poincaré MuMo theorem
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>>145213397
wow you dirty magical figurine of a statue of an anon mimic mimic

haha you made me laugh pretty hard though by impersonating me
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WHY IS GRINDER A GIRL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145213547
>High level theoretical physics
that's not high level theoretical physics
that's actually high-school physics that talk about specific laws that can be applied to the modern world

if you want high level theories you should read
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_energy
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>people pretending to be smart on the alphabet games thread of a Nipponese cartoon forum
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>>145213715
grinder? I hardly know her!
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>>145213715
But Grinder was always a girl.
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>>145213743
>pretending

>>145213753
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>>145212879
actually I think in that pic I hadn't found the wild BoC yet. Those buffs are from Potion of Heroism, Potion of Resistance, and Staff of Holiness (which heals and gives protection from evil)
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>>145213715
grindr should be gay, that's why he roofies you and pounds you out
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>>145213715
>not wanting a qt imp girl to grind on you while you're helplessly paralysed
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>>145213715
Don't worry anon, he'll soon be replaced by Tinder.
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>>145213743
I feel like a lot of us are in Uni, anon. All we do is learn shit and play Eurasian Panic Glyph Simulators™.
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>>145213936
anon that's called being a rapist, not being gay
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>>145214095
but I'm a man. benisinputt is gay
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>>145214095
You'd be surprised how many people don't know the difference!
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>>145213896
whoa
really makes you think
things that make you go "hmmm..."
damn
goosebumps
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>>145214251
Only if the balls touch.
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>>145212749
>Uriel, Angel of Fire says, 'Don't EVER steal from the collection plate!'
Uriel, Angel of Fire throws a Psycho-Spear.
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Are these guys exiles from Vaults or what?
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>>145214339
>>145212749
kek
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>>145215514
Probably a shapechanger
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>>145215514
And I got killed by an unseen horror after teleporting away. All hail 0.18

I ended up not using any magic so I think next time I'll pick an actual fightning background instead of Skald
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>>145215714
fighting*
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>>145215714
>fightning
TeAE
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>>145215594
shapechanger would be a regular tengu, with no weapons.
That's just a fucking OOD spawn.
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>>145215514
>hill giant
>ogre mage
>tengu warrior
>level is closed and monsters cannot escape

So, you've found a D7 vault, then you moonwalked away.
That was literally cold storage xp.
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>>145215514
turncount raped you
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Internet has been really wonky lately so sorry about the lack of updates. I killed Sathla and was going to post about that but it went out.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swampman
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>>145216340
I'd returned from D:8 to pick up a short sword of holy wrath to get rid of a few ghosts. Just the presence of a tengu warrior made that level a quarantined zone. I wouldn't have been able to tackle on that shit until after Lair anyways and at that point I'd had already tasted the glory of yak xp if a unseen horror hadn't killed me
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>>145213896
>Winston knew the man by sight
Anon fucked up.
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>>145215514
>That cancer inventory
>no buckler
OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE U DOING
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>>145216910
>>145216910
bucklers dont even spawn anymore
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>>145216910
I'd have used the buckler if I was literally anything but a demigod

Every bit of xp was dearly bought and I had vague plans of actually using long blades and training my charms by Lair
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>>145217258
>a nice option for casters branching into shields was removed
>but in its place uniques are now cute girls

Fair tradeoff.
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>>145218230
>not turning gastroknok into a juggernaut
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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>>145180447


>DCSS devs randomly changing genders of male characters for no apparent reason

I don't even understand SJWs anymore. I don't even pay attention to the gender of anything in the game.
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I'm playing DDA, and after walking for a bit along the road North from the shelter I spawned at, there's a town. I set up shop in a garage and slowly cleared out most of the town, but there's a police roadblock with two turrets that have attracted the attention of a bunch of zombies over the course of the few days I've been here. Like, a fuckton of zombies.

So I'm wondering how do I go about taking these zombies out without getting mobbed? The turret that has attracted the most of the zombies has long since ran out of ammo, so my biggest concern is the group of zombies failing to damage the turret. I'm fairly certain the other turret still has some ammo left since I heard it go off a few times somewhat recently, so I'll have to figure out how to deal with that one from a distance at some point, but I shouldn't have to worry about it until I get rid of the zombies.

I've considered making a molotov but I don't have any glass bottles. If I could find the right book with the recipe, I'd make a heavy crossbow and just plink at them from a safe distance and slowly whittle them down, but all I have is a regular crossbow for now. I'm not sure what else I could do, and I'm not sure how many of them will aggro on me if I get too close. I don't think there's anything too dangerous in the group, but I'm still pretty poorly equipped and don't want to get overwhelmed since I have next to no protective clothing.
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>>145217258
>bucklers dont even spawn anymore
Wait, really?
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>>145219017
no that's just a meme

they nerfed the shit out of bobs and sacks of spiders now though: a flat 1/3rd chance to be destroyed after every successful use, no matter what your evo is
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>>145218713
What bothers me is that theyre gender swapping, instead of just adding new female uniques. fucking faggots, why are they so lazy and terrible at everything
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>>145219359
Fine by me, I never even use that shit.
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>>145219387
>What bothers me is that theyre gender swapping, instead of just adding new female uniques.
>adding new female uniques
>adding

you playin the wrong game, nig
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Uh hey guys I'm the life monk and since my internet is being so fucking bad right now I can't really post anything with an image or it'll give me a connection error so I'll just postpone that for later.
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Why is the SotW world so huge? Why are all the places where anything happens so far apart? Why are there 3+ goblin villages and 1 or more giant villages where nothing of importance happens? Why are there literally no shops? Why are scrolls so rare (went all the way to the 32nd floor of the infinite dungeon, found 3 scrolls of recharge, one of some kind of enchantment), but spellbooks, rings, and potions so plentiful (found at least 2 dozen of each)? What's the deal with the dungeons that have engravings of monsters on them? What are you supposed to do once you've finished with the first island?

I want to like this game, but all I've seen of it that had more than placeholders was that first island, a mountain-elf town, and a few unique one-level dungeons (an ogre-covered island, a despoiled temple) with pointlessly huge amounts of space between. If I pick this up again, I'm playing a Fae. I can handle not getting free stats/resistances from eating corpses, but eating is so tedious, and nutrition decreases so quickly when traveling in the overworld that exploring to figure out what's out there quickly becomes a painfully tedious chore.

The game would benefit from being less huge, I think. At least the overworld would.
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>>145220994
Okay bud, thanks for the update
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>>145220994
You don't have to tell us when you start or stop posting.
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>>145221073
Seems like the guy went for the "filling in the broad sketch" approach, rather than expanding from a small starting point.
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>>145221080
>>145221114
Just keepin you posted.
>brian-lee-henderson.jpg
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>>145218841
Take potshots with your crossbow and stab them from range with a wooden spear. Try going near them to draw 1 or 2 at a time. They won't ever kill the turret without help, so you can just leave them there too. You can make some fire traps by spreading out a bunch of wood and setting them on fire when they get near. Just kite them through the flames and it'll wreck them.
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>>145220994
>>145221535
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>>145221073
i haven't played since the last time /rlg/ noticed the game, but as I remember item drops change in proportion based on your class -- spellcasty types find tons of books, tablords find lots of branded weapons....
not sure which class would get scrolls
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>>145221906
>You can make some fire traps by spreading out a bunch of wood and setting them on fire when they get near. Just kite them through the flames and it'll wreck them.
Hmm, alright. I actually have some nailboard traps and a digging stick, I was planning on trying to dig some shallow pits and setting up the traps in alternating layers and trying to lure any of them who broke off through that while potshotting with the crossbow. Maybe I could include some fire in that as well.
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>>145222460
Fire and pits work really well together, since the zombo will be stuck for 4 turns or so. You can just setup a few nice 3x3 squares of nailboards and walk circles around them while stabbing with a spear to kill them if you really want. A little tedious, but it'll handle everything short of the really dangerous dudes.
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>>145222238
Really? I was playing a Pugilist and I was finding super-armor (which Pugilists aren't supposed to wear), branded weapons(which Pugilists aren't supposed to use), spellbooks (which Pugilists can literally never use as far as I can tell), rings, and lots of wands.

Pugilists can't even read without help from that scholar dude in the first town, and as far as I know they can never read "Old Runic" which is what spellbooks are written in.

Admittedly, I was finding those branded weapons and super-armors from floors ~20 to floors ~30, so maybe all weapons in that range are branded, and all armor in that range is super-powered.
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>>145218841
>not using dragon kung-fu
>not using spraycan flamethrower
>not luring them all in a house and burning it down
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ok fuck crawl lol, I'm gonna play dynahack
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>go long blades
>have to run from every single hydra in lair
Well this is fun
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>>145223873
M&F
&
F
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>>145223873
Get a shitty flaming axe or something for hydras. Or wand them down. Or use invocations. Or do SOMETHING other than just attacking them
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>>145223991
I'm a MuFi of Ashenzari the only flaming ive found so hard is a bow. Only evokable worth anything is fan of gales which is always on cooldown
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I didn't know this was a thing.
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>>145222828
Solid Snake, please go.
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>>145219387
Adding new uniques is not an option, because there are too many uniques.

If there was some way to siphon bloat away from C:DDA, and place it into DCSS, we would have the perfect game.
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Anybody else here play Halls of You Fail the Alchemy Test?

I hear a new beta is on the way....
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>>145225170
weapons that cause earthquakes can also stun as a side effect of the quake IIRC

but only if they do at least 50 damage from dice
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>>145212574
I came up with this concept before learning about it, does it really take more than common sense? Where is my "u r smart" medal?
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>>145225170
i am stunned
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>>145226850
You get the medal when you win the mumo. Pic related, it'll be you.
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60% fire resist and the breath still hits like a truck.
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>>145227253
>not hasted
>resisting cold instead of fire
>con 16
Fault.
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>>145227253
smaug can breathe for like 700 damage can't he?

basically for any boss higher level than Ubbo/Minotaur/Shelob you need to have a big ol' pile of healing potions so you can chug one after every breath
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Give Actaeon Ghost Pierce (y/n)?
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>>145227912
No, no, no, I had my spellbook resists going, potion of resist heat, heroism, and speed. It's just that they all ran out because I quaffed/casted them all before I went in. Smaug that time really liked to spam the hell out of the cancer breath.

I HAD FUCKING INDRA AND I BLEW IT!
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>>145227929
>actually taking Actaeon instead of Artemis
wew lad
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>>145228124
You weren't going to get far if you splatted to something as weak as smaug.
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Smaug is pronounced smo, right?
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>>145228720
I usually pronounce it smawg
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>>145228720
it rhymes with Smough
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>>145228280
Is Artemis better for a Veil Tank character?

It was my second game.

I got dunked by a team of 3x Ukobach + 3x Huo Shuo anyway.
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>>145228720
Sm-ow-g
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>>145228763
>>145228793
>>145228957
Oh, so like smog with a southern accent. Hmm.
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>>145228124
You died because you don't dig kill holes.
Start digging kill holes.

If you die to a monster breathing on you from out of your range of vision, you are playing incorrectly.
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>>145228917
I dunno Actaeon just seems kinda bad in general
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>>145229049
No his breath didn't outright kill me it was me not being able to handle him in melee and I had to phase away to heal up and right after I quaff my potion he decides to breath me.
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>>145229469
Why didn't you have a safe place to phase door to?
Was it perhaps because Smaug was not in the process of navigating his way out of a long corridor after you teleported?
Dig your killholes, son.
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>>145229469
>using phase to heal up when you're in oneshot range
FFFFFFFAULT
it's not even guaranteed to bring you out of LOS, you might just move 2 spaces to the left.

If you're low enough to die in one turn you should at least be reading ?tele and not phase
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>>145229469
>Phase
>Not Tele
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>all of a sudden getting this shit
I've compiled multiple times before, why is this happening now?
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I've decided that I want to make a roguelike, but its's extremely nonstandard:
>instead of building a character, you form a party of 5 classes, sort of like Etrian odyssey
>your party members can permadie, but if they do you can hire more at level 1. game over if all 5 die, running from battles can be difficult(very few teleport items/abilities)
>typical roguelike loot and level generation
>combat and explorationare still something i'm working on, but I have a vague idea

Would you play it? Would you pay for it? I'm dreaming of getting it kickstarted so it can have good art, but I don't have anything concrete yet.
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>>145229612
>>145229748
>>145229948
I didn't know my potions were going to run out.
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>>145230007
did you try downloading dot net framework version 4.0?
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>>145230254
You should really listen to the advice the thread throws at you day after day.
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>>145230136
I dig that kind of shit, but I'd have to see it before I decided to pay. You know how it is anon. Bonus points for being able to upload your own character portraits and stuff. I think a game just came out like that.
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My nemesis is dead.

I'm glad I'm not a life priest, as that mana brand eats through my mp in like five attacks.
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>>145230136
I don't see how you'd make combat work without doing a menu based thing
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>>145230136
>Would you pay for it?
I'd pirate it.
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>>145230254
you don't have to know in advance whether you'll have enough potions

you just need to make non-retarded decisions once you find out that you do not, in fact, have enough potions
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>>145230421
>>145230452
Fair enough.

>>145230441
Yeah that's pretty much how it is, I don't want to give too much away at this point though.
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>>145230371
I do, just not the killhole thing. I'll try that now though
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>>145230440
So where do you find out who your nemesis is?
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>>145230993
that's not an in-game mechanic it's just the unique that killed his last character
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>>145231153
Oh so Smaug is my nemesis now?
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>>145231216
yes

go kill smaug on your next character and post a screenshot here for meme points
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>>145230284
No, that hadn't occurred to me.
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>>145231381
Will do, probably as a warrior again.
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>>145230440
wow I did not know there was a temp rNether buff in the game
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>>145226971
MuMo is impossible to win though
:^)
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>>145230836
I appreciate it.
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>Go to sleep after a hard day of removing zombies
>Only heal half a bar of hp
Slow healing is the best. Now I get to spend the day reading and crafting.
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>>145232070
It's one of my demon realm spells. Death might get it as well.
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>>145232342
This one's for you anon.
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ded gen
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>>145235637
toooo true
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>>145235637
>ruk (can't even throw)
lel
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>>145229292
So what should I give artemis then?
I fuse her with a snek, right?
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damn, elona is comfy.
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>>145236725
>fuse her with a snek
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>>145236725
Yes. Make a woman out of her by fusing your Python with her, although she's pretty expensive. For Artemis I usually give her a bunch of on hit status effects + some SP abilities like Tormentor from a Freybug and Tireless from a Gandayah. You'll eventually want to link with a centaur and get needle shot for her, since the shot attacks she comes with are kinda shit (delete them after you get needle shot obviously).
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How do I make the latest tiles version of crawl run windowed..?
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>>145196941

there's literally no hope for you. try dwarf fortress
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>>145237136
I remember some music pack with RPG OST themes that made the game feel cozy as hell for me. I think I took it from the pastebin or something.
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>>145239462
huh, I'll look into it
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>>145239462
>>145239912
The Wild Arms music pack is also top tier comf.
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>>145239462
I just play various Blind Guardian albums usually.
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>>145240454
I tend to use my own music while I play, but in Elona's case all the changes I eventually made through sprites, music etc. nailed the atmosphere aspect so in that case I didn't feel the need to put something else on.
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So that's what a scroll of madness does.

Should I read my second one? I followed the advice of spending money on gambling scrolls and got two.
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>>145238294
Well I have nothing else to spend money on on my dude except getting the fire+frost veil (already have Zombie's eating+dash) and my Faerie has tireless+calm and my Gandayah has healing charm. Artemis seems hugely swole so i will get her tormentor and tireless.
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>>145240875
Yeah, don't read scrolls of madness.

Here's what happened to me.
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>>145240875
well sometimes it does artifact creation so are you feeling lucky punk?
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hey guys I need some advice. Heres my FeBe im working on, ive managed to get super lucky with this character so far lvl15 no deaths, where do I take him now though? At what point do I do shoals/snakepit etc?
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>This is what fun looks like
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>>145212632
Good, too many faggots have shit up the humanities.
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>>145243086
I hate humanities because there are too many faggots involved in them
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>Go to sleep
>Wake up because something is making noise
>Stare out the window
>A moose stares back
PANIC
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>>145243661
In real life?
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>>145243723
Cata, although it would be equally terrifying in real life. Moosen really don't fuck around.
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>>145243661
when you gaze long into the moose, the moose gazes also into you
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>>145243723
>/rlg/
No such thing
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>>145244408
i always thought /rlg/ stood for real life general because you only get one life in rougelikes
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Holy fuck
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Oh look, it's yet ANOTHER berserker ghost. How come so many shitters are playing lately?
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>>145245171
trog is unironically the best god in the game
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>>145244626
>rougelikes
triggered
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>>145245247
He honestly is. I agree
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What's the damage stat on vehicle parts in Cataclysm? Is it the damage they do? Or is it the damage they take? Or what? If a part says 80% damage, what is that telling me?
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>>145245171
Elliptic runs qw on cao.
Some other guy runs tstbtto on cao as well.
It can't possibly be worse on any other servers.
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>>145245331
i think it's the damage they do to nerds that you ram, which is why it's highest on shit like spikes or road rollers
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>>145190038
tfw /k/fag and know 90% of these weapons enough to predict their attributes
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this game sucks
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>>145246676
>No haste
>No buffs
>Didn't read summoning
>No killhole
>No battle brothers
>berserked
git gud
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>>145246676
>not winning FeBe on your first try
Sasuga.
>snake
Okay, I forgive you.
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>go down into swamps
>first thing I see are boots of flying
beautiful
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>>145246676
Did he died?
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>>145246676
NINE LIVES
I
N
E

L
I
V
E
S
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>>145247678
sir franze lives on
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Reminder that even if you win, felids are still not a roguelike.
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>>145249958
>Felids lost pouncing for a mechanic that you do you very best to avoid at all costs
I'm still mad.
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>>145249958
what if you win without dying
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>>145250023
Um they always had 9 lives. Pouncing was added for a short period of time and they lost it because "I don't want felids to keep pouncing just because lol."
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>>145250376
I misremembered, you're right anon. I still think its a super shit mechanic though.
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>>145250562
I think it used to have a really cool thematic agreement with the rest of the game. 27 floors of the dungeon, character XL and skills max at 27, and felids get a new life every 3 levels meaning at XL27 they have 9 lives.
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Remember when you'd instantly die if any of your attributes hit 0 in DCSS? I think stat drain was harder to reverse too.
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>>145250840
uhhh they had potions of restore abilities what do you mean they were harder to reverse
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>>145250840
Just quaff a restab bro.
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>>145250948
I don't think they reverted with exp. I think restore ability was the only way to cure it.

Something like that, anyway.
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>>145251042
It restored over time too. You could just chill in the temple or scum the abyss.
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>>145251157
Maybe I'm misremembering. I definitely recall stat drain being more worrisome.
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>>145251282
It was worrisome because it would kill you.
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Reminder that I died in the tourney, on the orbrun, and still got points because DCSS is not a roguelike.
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I forgot all those times they buffed ashen.
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Finally, I finished the last dungeon (hard mode) with 99 floors.
Fucking Mummy G, they're the worst enemies in this game.
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>you take a bite out of the junethack tournament. You feed on the attention.
>Unfortunately eating any of it is fatal.
>you die...
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>>145252267
What game is this?
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;-;
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Dying is boring.
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>>145253543
I think you did Elf too early. Also there should not have been that many Annihilators on screen at once, you definitely messed something up.
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>>145253543
Why would you even do elf? Totally unnecessary as a felid of trog
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>>145253543
>Elf
>With less than 110 HP
>All that shit surrounding you
What were you thinking?
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>>145245272

so he likes wearing makeup - get over it.
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>this guy
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According to the Elona Pasta, I am supposed to "Split my lungs with blood and thunder", because several of the spritesheets there have dead links (specifically, "/rlg/'s superior item pack" and "/rlg/'s anti-eyesore therapy (map)", as well as "/rlg/'s non-bobblehead sprite sheet".

This seems to go back to all of these being hosted on Pomf, which seems broke.

I would really appreciate if someone reupped those, since I remember liking them a lot last time I downloaded Elona.
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>>145251042
It restored over time. If you had enough food you could just mash 5 in the temple to get over it, just like with every other problem in oldcrawl.

Unless you were a Deep Dwarf, because their 0-regen also applied to stat regen.
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First win since .12, game sure did change, i can't remember tabbing two oofs at once with bobs back in the day
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>>145253530
Rogue Hero.
Mummy G looks harmless, until it sets one of your wand's charge to 0.
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>>145255272
Congrats, 3 runer?
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>>145255676
Techically 4 runes, I've got elven rune in 100 or so turns by getting abyssed in vaults $. Spawned right near very easy vault with lava and catoblepas.
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>>145253543
you asked for it, woulda taken much less than a crystal spear to kill you
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Anyone try an Alienist in Incursion?

SPecifically, have they gotten the whole pseudonatural summoning thing to work?
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>>145252718
is that you amy
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So why did a Death Knight spawn in the Labyrinth anyway?
He summoned Judge Fire who was free ecks pee.
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Why can't Potions of Charisma exist in real life too?
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>>145258910
they do but they're only temporary and they affect everyone other than the drinker
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>>145258910
Just stuff money into a bottle and watch the chicks roll in.
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>>145258910
alcohol
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>>145255272
my friend you have forgotten to put on your dark red contam. I do like that tele though
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>>145259163
>>145259245
>>145259416
No amount of money or alcohol will make my incher any bigger.
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>>145259560
time for china
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>>145258910
>>145259560
Stop shitposting about this you fucking cuckold. If you care about it that much you need to just kill yourself.
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I have absolutely no idea what any of these do...
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>>145259938
examine them with I?
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>>145259972
Not enough money to buy *id* scrolls...
I probably won't be able to buy them for a while...
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>>145259938
How about you read the pastebin you shitter?
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>download latest DDA
>stand next to swimming pool
>cant craft clean water because no water
Ok...
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>>145260026
Trek to Morivant. There is a building that will fully ID all your junk for a fraction of the price of *ID*.
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in elona+ priest class feat says "potency of hp recovery increased", does it apply to all healing sources (magic, potions, rods etc.) or only to specific ones? i ask because the english wiki says only magic spells healing and i dont trust google translate on the japanese one
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D-does this mean I beat the game?
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>>145260356
You actually have to get the orb.
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>>145257226
I once had Judge fear appear at around dungeon level 8. I've played probably close to several thousand games of Heng/poschengband and that was by far the silliest out-of-depth experience I'd ever had.
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>>145260673
I once tried always interesting levels and got assblasted by Thuringwethil on Dlvl 1.
I should try it again though.

Anyway, I think the Logrus Master quest has given me more good mutations than bad over the many, many times I've completed it.
This one is particularly good.
Would've preferred charge drain resist though.
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>>145259560
you have become so annoying I have decided to filter the word "inch"
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>broke a pair of cheap jeans beyond reparability
>decide to cut them up midway through the leg to use them as a sturdy office chair cover I bought several years ago whose skin that has long peeled off
>tie it with a pair of shoelaces behind the back so they stay still

oh god I stopped playing DDA BUT IT FOLLOWED ME IN THE REAL WORLD
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>>145261338
Are you that same guy that found a 50 gallon drum on a highway in real life and went back to pick it up?
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>>145261505
That was me and I never gave in to temptation. I still see it every time I go down that road.
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>>145245114
>peaceful herbivores
Yeah, moose in Cata are basically hulks you can eat.
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>CDDA wilderness start
>find a road and follow it to a mansion
>kill the Zs
>take literally everything and put it in a single pile next to the door
Why do people build big mansion when you can have everything just next to you.
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>>145262514
Not everyone wants to be a disgusting hobo dragon that sleeps on a big pile of half eaten cans of soup and bloody rags.
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>after a about two weeks in my starting town, starting to run out of food
>been slowly working on getting this luxury RV into deathmobile shape
>there's a gas station towards the Northern side of the town that I've been waiting to hit up for gas for this beast
>been saving all my cash cards for this
>get over there and clear out the zombies hovering nearby, since this is the last place in town I've been to
>purchase all the fuel I can afford and fill up
>smash the only intact vending machine when I'm on my way out and loot it
>there's an absolute fuckton of drinks in this thing
>400 something items total
>several back and forth trips later I got it all loaded up, my poor on-board minifridge couldn't hold it all
>there's many cans of V8 in here so now I'm set for food for a while
Feels good being a survivor sometimes.
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>>145262663
>Tfw you hit a vending machine and literally hundreds of fruit leathers come pouring out
Vending machines are the loot pinatas of RL.
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>>145262615
I dont know, it's pretty comfy. Also mansions are best buildings, tons of books and lots of high level ones too.
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>>145262663
you can pretty much just live forever off of purified poolwater and powdered ant eggs tho
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>people still complain about early dungeon jackals, D:2 Adders and other miscellaneous shit
>D:4 bees are a thing
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>>145262910
I like to keep things organized by use once I have enough stuff to stop living on a loot pile. I really enjoy using large tents, since the 3x3 square is very conducive to that kind of living. Once you get a loot wagon going, you don't even have to be in the 3x3 square. Its very nice.
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>>145263035
Enjoy your rapid onset scurvy and night blindness.
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>>145261505
No, that was >>145262418.

I used to be a lot into DDA back in the day, so much that in winter went around with a winter coat with thread and needle, a lighter, a pocket knife, a screwdriver, an allen wrench, some paper, pen and pencil, strings and a pair of pliers.

You can stop playing DDA, but it never really leaves you.
>>
Some of you may remember me from some day back, I am that guy deving a roguelike without any clue about what I am doing.

I changed the library from libtcod to bearlibterminal, since libtcod had way to much features. Due to some bad decisions I rewrote most of the code, so this version only has mapping and player implemented.

The map is now fucking huge and scrolling.
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>>145264218
Rape implemented yet?
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>>145264335
Not yet, but I am considering adding politics (so at least the state will be able to rape you)
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>>145264218
How comes that your character cab see past the wall on his right?

Also do you have any idea on what the objective of the game will be?
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>>145264385
heh
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>>145264385
>so at least the state will be able to rape you

Awesome.
I'm already hard.
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>>145264402
I rewrote most of the code, so the fov isn't finished yet.

For now I am planning to make it a playable usual roguelike, and then I am going to start adding features.

It will be story heavy (with most of the story procedurally generated, so it will stay fresh), with a lot of atmosphere (descriptions of your surrounding, finding ancient relics and engravings), if I come that far I will also try to add cultures and dwellings to the dungeon.
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>>145264218
Oh hey, nice! Its great to see you checking in. I kind of miss the old color scheme though.
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>tfw no bee waifu tile yet in trunk
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>>145264635
Don't worry, I miss it too, so it will be back in next few days.
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>>145263714
The fuck is all that @
Are all those Z's swimmer zombies

holy shit what a mess
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>>145265840
the @ are NPCs
the Z are zombie cops, not swimmers

it's pretty accurate
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>>145265926
Oh.
I knew pink @'s were humans but it just seemed so unusual seeing so many of them.
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>Katamari soundtrack playing
>Looting and kiting zombos to the riot bots, who are forever stuck inside a mob of thronging, grasping hands
>Find 400~ more handgun ammo in basement along with some accessories for the shotgun
>Have to shoot a smoker zombie to death though, get bitten on my leg
>While exploring the rest of the house, get surprised by trapdoor spiders while removing a necromancer
>Super depressed by putting the age old "How many toddlers do you think you can take in a fight?" to the test
>Ain't even mad because I'm grooving so hard
Its amazing how quickly you can get fucked up on 8/8/8/8. I'm basically down for a day or two just from the spiders.
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>>145256692
Ah, it seems the creatures you summon are pseudonaturals, but the game doesn't tell you that until they use their abilities and you find out that the ordinary looking cat or elf or whatever is launching spores and slashing with tentacles.
>>
The new tile is kinda shitty.
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>>145264574
Also the game will have two modes, a Combat and a "Social" mode. You will be able to switch between them with clicking one key.

When you are going to be in combat mode, moving into a creature will attack it. However, in social mode, you will instead get a dialog menu (in which orcs will tell you to piss off and attack you) and will be able to interact with them.

Long term goal are previously mentioned cultures, which will be procedurally generated (similar to dwarf fortress, but more random and simple). So, for example, you will be able to smoke a hookah with kobolds.
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>>145268061
But will I be able to whore my way to the win?
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>>145267697
Isn't that how Grinder always looked? They always had a little apron and butcher knife. I can't even tell the difference if they did change it.
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>>145268287
>Isn't that how Grinder always looked?
Not really.
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>>145268370
They just shaved a pixel off the chest and coloured her purple to fit with the imp changes. You really have to look for it.
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>>145268596
>change from black to purple
>you really have to look for it
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>>145268717
You don't understand, it's those two big ass Z's.
They weren't there before.
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>>145268596
Actually, I'm blind. She lost her horns in the transition and is no longer a lanky manlet. I think it looks a little better, but its still a dumb change.

>>145268717
You really do, what with the dark ass dungeon floor and tiny ass tiles. Its probably just me though. I have shit eyes and trying to focus hard on sprites gives me eye fatigue.
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>>145268287
Grinder?
I hardly even know her.
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>>145268931
Boo
get new material
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>>145269049
I'm just being reactionary to the genderbend so as to make it a hilarious meme.
You have to assimilate.
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>accidentally step into V$

this is the fifth time I've done this
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>>145269246
I actually exclude the stairs going down so I don't automatically G >
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>>145269362
>What are we going to do on the flower, my queen?
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>>145269410
>the meliai goes berserk!
>the meliai smites you! The meliai smites you! the meliai smites you!
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>>145269458
>You ejaculate! You ejaculate! You ejaculate!!!!
>You impregnate the meliai.
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>>145269293
I usually !note V$ before going down, but I thought I was still on V3.

It was a real fuckfest.
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>>145269605
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>>145269605
Anon, that isn't how bees work. Even Meliai are only women from the waist up. You'd have to find the gross queen. They'd probably gnaw your hands and feet off and store your pallid body for when the queen decides she wants your seed. Insects are kind of hardcore like that.
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>>145269605

Sounds like a rogueliek with potential.

>You spit the meliai like a pig!
>>
please do not impregnate the bees
>>
>the meliai looks drowsy...
>the meliai is charmed.
>You pound the meliai!!!

>>145269770
What are you, the bee police?
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>>145269738
>women from the waist up
what is this monster musume bullshit
fucking crawl devs and their pleb tastes
If you're going monstergirl you either go full or you don't
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>>145269934
Well a monstergirl is indeed synonymous with a monster musume, that's why they're not just "female monsters."
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>>145270028
>Well a monstergirl is indeed synonymous with a monster musume
Well, yes there is a complete difference between "female monsters" and "monstergirls" and monstergirl fits better the monster musume description.
And you can't just call female monsters "female monsters".
This is a bit of a pickle.
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>>145270449
Sure you can, most monsters probably have a 50% chance (ish) to be female.

Also for the record, gynoform bees of any sort creep me the fuck out under the best of circumstances.

Guessing /vg/ lacks spoilers.
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>>145270931
> gynoform bees of any sort creep me the fuck out
That's rough, buddy.
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paki ur my boy but fuck

gimme a rod
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>>145271250
you know those don't use a gift timer right

he just counts up the amount of mana you "earn" while at max MP and gives you a potion whenever it hits the threshold
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>>145271312
>>145271250

holy shit the devs think of everything

well then can you amass bajillions of magic potions then leave him later, or does he destroy his gifts?
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Its like a little disco party everytime I go to town looking for loot. I just need a wrench to really get stuff started.
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>>145271925
>does he destroy his gifts

i wouldn't be surprised

>>145271312
i know but what the fuck am i supposed to do with all these mana pots?

i guess i could start surging my rods constantly
>>
300 thousand @s started their journey to the orb today
107 thousand @s splatted
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>>145271925
i think you get an effect that has a chance to negate any potion you drink
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I think I need a break from roguelikes.
I've played most of the good ones which I like to death.
I hope thoroughly modded Morrowind does the trick.
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>>145273285
Have fun, anon. Remember that when Jiub says the storm didn't wake you, he wasn't talking about the weather.
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>>145273393
Different year, same shit.
I hope eventually URR will be able to satiate my love for Morrowind and Roguelikes both.
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>>145273648
You know it won't. Morrowind is too firmly engrained. I hope you can get it working. Mournhold! City of light! City of magic!
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>>145273285
>I've played most of the good ones which I like to death.

Yes, but have you beaten them? Technically, you're not allowed to leave until you've beaten the following.

>DoomRL
>Sil
>Brogue
>ADOM
>UnNethack
>Infra Arcana
>DCSS
>Angband (vanilla)
>Rogue
>Larn (or nLarn)
>Incursion
>ToME (2.x or 4.x)
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>>145273956
Oh and IVAN too.
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Anyone know some Cata modding? I want lots of rivers and islands but no idea where to edit stuff
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>>145273956
Of those I've beaten DoomRL, Sil (dirty elf though), Brogue, Nethack, DCSS (lol), Angband and ToME.
I'll get to IA and IVAN some day.
I can't play Incursion because it won't be properly finished.
ADOM and Elona+ aren't really my cup of tea and I'll rather play MW to get the same feel but with more shit and modded out the asshole.
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>cataclysm is widely regarded as a shit game
>devs are fags
>it's the only game in existence that satisfies my realism boner

Help
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>>145272484
the piety cost on quick charge is basically negligible

1 mana pot = 1 scroll of recharging for your want of HW, Haste, Tele, Paralysis, Acid, etc
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>>145273956
Larn is time gated and I refuse to play it for that reason alone.
Same with ADOM desu.
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>>145274519
The only people who think cata is shit are mostly the same ones who run over everything the second they get a car or use diamond katanas. It certainly has its flaws, but its about finding your own fun. Coolthulu will show us the way. Why the fuck do you care what others think? Just play the game and share your story. I even did that when I played dredmor and tome4, and there are always anons who enjoy it and share in your experience by playing along too!
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>>145274739
My only issue with cataclysm is that you can't aim for limbs
like holy shit let me shoot this shrieker in the legs and blow its arms off so I can run around with it in a portable trash can
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>>145274834
Haha what? I didn't know I wanted that.
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>>145274134
>I want lots of rivers and islands but no idea where to edit stuff
You can do it in the regional map settings.json. It's pretty straightforward.
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>>145275195
Hm really, I didnt see anything regarding rivers. Ill take a look again.
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Does anyone still have the Cogmind that was uploaded a while ago? I tried the link in the old topic but it seems to have been taken down by now
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>>145276086
SHILL
SHILLLLLLLLL
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>>145275747
That is clearly a humanized kraken.
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>>145276086
cogmind is available on most torrent sites. but wth dude. it's not like the dev is triple-I indie. it's a broke-ass dev. just buy it.
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>>145276445
on the other hand, the dev is a moderator for at least 3 subreddits so he's probably a paedo
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thanks trog
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>>145276650
just pounce to the one at the edge to escape
:^)
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>>145276650
Christ. How many times have you died?
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Such is life.
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>>145277034
>you see here a blade of chaos (10d10) {*sharp* vamp slay evil mana}
>weight: 0.1lbs
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>>145277034
>You will never fight Brand and Corwin simultaneously while dual-wielding Grayswandir and Werewindle
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>>145276957
three times, they cannot stop us

10 rune victory incoming
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>>145277034
>3d5
>+8+12
literally the shittiest sword I can think of.
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>in DDA if you shout at a beaver it will run away from you for its life
huh
>>
The macabre finger necklace {rN+}.

An ugly dangling finger on a string. It would look better with a ring on it.

It protects you from negative energy.

It is an ancient artefact.

Stash search prefixes: {in_shop} {artefact} {artifact} >>>>>{buggy} {jewellery}
Menu/colouring prefixes: identified uncursed artefact jewellery

should this show the ring slot after i buy it? its 299 gold but on rn...
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>>145277620
But you quite often find it between levels 20-30 when it's excellent.
Also a nice stat stick.
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>>145278057
>{artifact} >>>>>{buggy}
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>>145278275
i laughed when i saw that tag on the item
thats why i am probably not going to buy it
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>>145278354
it's pretty great actually, the tag just means that it's a problematic item and it will probably be removed
In the good days of yore when regen was on rings and stacked with two, you could use both ring slots for regen and one for RF or just wear regen RF RC.
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>>145278581
so it will actually allow me to put the ring on it though right? i currrently have +6 evade and +4 evade rings and a +6 amulet of reflection on but i have quite a few rings stacked up
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>>145278718
>i currrently have +6 evade and +4 evade rings and a +6 amulet of reflection on

Hmm
you're better off with reflection, +6 is really good and better than +4 EV because it also gives reflection
I sure hope you're wearing a shield or at least a buckler though
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>>145278819
yea just noticed i had a buckler one floor above me

its worth wearing even with 0 shield?
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Just how am I supposed to play Necromancer in Dungeon Crawl? Apparently now both Animate Skeleton and Animate Dead are temporary minions, and there's still jack shit I can do against undead enemies unless I happen to find a flame branded weapon. Twisted Resurrection is removed so now there seems to be nothing between Animated Dead and Simulacrum/Haunt.
I feel like a shitty summoner who requires corpses. Have Necromancers gain anything at all?
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>>145279121
put four points into shield, wear it and forget about it anon
bucklers are OP as fuck you get 7 points of shield with a minimal investment, and your +6 amulet literally almost doubles it, so you get a whopping 13 points of pseudo-EV at the cost of about two black mambas of xp.

That's why it's banned in egypt.
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>>145279123
lol just tab the dudes bruh crawl has no "casters"!!!1
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>>145276445
Didn't the dev admit to deliberately setting the price of the game obnoxiously high to generate discussion?
Am I thinking of someone else?
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>>145279348
thanks
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>>145279630
that sounds like an extremely douchy thing to do.
>>
>Made a generator in DDA
>Keep the tools running for days, it's fine
>Accidentally empty batteries
>Engine doesn't turn on
>Doesn't even initiate the no battery messages
>Plaster a spare battery on it
>Nope
>Take off the engine and the batteries, controls and alternators and put them back on
>Still doesn't initiate
Fug
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>>145280014
feed it directly 100 batteries and start it.
It works.
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>>145280183
Tried it. Problem is it's not even initiating the flavour text that should come up when you start an engine, never mind the "rapid clicking" from no charge. Nothing


Also yes, every other part is fine.
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>>145278057
looks like the necklace currently has an imaginary nonexistent buggy ring stuck on it or something

i wouldn't risk your gold unless you have nothing else to buy
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>>145279630
i think the cogmind dev said that the price would be 30bux during alpha but that he'd bring it down once it's complete
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Whoah!
Lewd!
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>>145276445
>Cogmind
Torrents have the older alpha versions.
Someone uploaded the Alpha 8 few days back, thats what the Anon was looking for.

And yes it will be cheaper when steam shits on it.
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>>145276445
I only found Alpha 2 on the torrent site I frequent - I think it's up to like Alpha 8 now

Super poor fag really, it's pretty expensive.
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>>145280425
Yes. And rumor and hearsay have it that he did it to draw attention to himself.
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>>145282153
>>145281932
>>145281920
>>145280425
>>145279630

stop this at once
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>>145281932
Alpha 9 is the latest, few more maps and a steam version should be released.

you can find alpha 3 on kat.
Im also looking for the version anon uploaded here few days ago, cant believe i missed it since im here day and night (losers unite).

There was talk that he might release it on GOG but since hes a jew dev that will wait.
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>>145281252
lood as fuark.
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>>145279123
Honestly Nec's in a pretty bad place right now that Animate Skelly/Dead is nerfed.

Like a lot of the iffy starting classes, pray for a good early weapon/deity and use the spells as support.
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These always manage to amuse me.

I wonder if it's actually any good for an archer.
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>>145280294
At the waste of many batteries, I fixed it by reconstructing the entire damned thing.
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>>145282352
Hang on Ill reupload it, its the alpha 8
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>>145283429
the artifact ammos, at least non-randart ones, get a special energy cost I think, which can be sweet. The real issue is that it takes an entire inventory slot, but when you are able to carry it, it's not bad.

Easy to forget and lose, even if you inscribe it with =g for autopickup, if your inventory fills and you forget it on the floor.
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>>145283429
>all those slays
>all those brands
From what I know arrows like that are a good opener on anything that breathes, since they can drastically cut health thus reducing any breath damage from the outset.
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Why is it that in almost every single roguelike you grow stronger by killing things
why can't it be like sil where you can also play as a stealthydude and grow stronger by looking at dudes
or brogue where you get stronger with items and not by killing people

it's so violent
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>>145283893
https://dropfile.to/g7LVYK1
I didnt even try it
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>>145283893
okey, ill wait.
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>>145284376
may the RNG bless u.
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>>145284376
Thanks!
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Today's fault lesson: when using a staff of holiness to heal, make sure they're aren't other sleeping monsters in the room that will be damaged, wake up and breathe on you.

Not that this would happen to me or anything.
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>>145284319
Because the things want to kill you and so you typically need to kill them in order to get them to not bother you.
Giving you a reward for doing so makes it not be so annoying.
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>>145280315
i didn't, itll be there later anyway. i found a bazaar on elf 1 that had this, which replaced my +5 hand axe
i - the +11 broad axe "Anozeledgh" (weapon) {speed, rPois Stlth+}
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How do i disable the autopick up in DCSS for arrows
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>>145285719
press \ scroll to arrows and turn the + into a -
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>>145285813
thank you very much kind sir
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>>145285520
>axes
you dirty double minotaur
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>>145284319
Some guy on the Angband forums did a 2 kill run of the game by playing a rogue and diving to !exp depths, then gearing up by looting vaults.
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>>145286004
i have always ran DsWn using axes and evo rods with Makhleb
Favorite build ever. and now that demons can dodge rod spells 100% it's even BETTER
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>>145285910
If you're playing .18 or trunk I think if you just drop an item it deselects it for autopickup for you
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>>145286261
yes i am in trunk and it doesn't
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>>145284319
>it's so violent

But how am I going to masturbate to it if there's no violence?
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>>145287036
>But how am I going to masturbate to it if there's no violence?
Look at Hydra, Minotaur and Skeleton butts from stealth.

Seriously, game where you're a huge fucking creep against monsters by looking at their butts and stealing pants and shirts when
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Splatted my demigod shieldmaster, someone give me another race to try for the same class please nothing too ridiculous.
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>>145287497
Amberite, because I've never seen anyone play one and I have no idea what they do.
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>>145287753
They're humans with regeneration

and at level 45 or something they get Alter Reality and Restoration as racial abilities
maybe one of those is 35
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>>145279630
Prison architect did that. Set the game to like 30$ because "we only want quality beta feedback, it will be cheaper on release".

It is released now and costs 32$.
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>>145287753
They get good stats and regen, like >>145287831 said, but the powers come earlier: level 30 for level remapping and 40 for self-restoration.
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Why are hordes in Cata:DDA unaffected by spawn scaling? And why are NPCs so mega retarded? I can't play with them enabled without risking the whole city being burned down by flamethrower/molotov wielding assholes
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>>145288369
devs to busy adding scurvy to care about gameplay
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>be roman legionary
>wake up in evac shelter
>find nigga in basement
>kill him and steal his boots
>make a shitty wood cart and hit the road
>kill a dinosaur in the swamps and eat it
>end up in a mine
>dog with tentacles attack me at the bottom
>kill it
>tentacle thing comes out of the corpse
>kill it too
>gain this
I hope this helm has some magical power. Also my armor is in really bad shape now, not good.
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>>145289379
>roman legionary

Are there time-travel/alien-abductee starts in cata?
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>>145289631
Well there is obvious weird stuff going on so why not time travel. Or maybe Im just a historical reenactment guy and forgot it.
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>>145289631
>Time travel
Yeah, loads of them
>Alien-abductee
Unfortunately no, but there are starts where you can be naked or filled with damaged bionic parts or gross random mutations, so you can pretend that the ayy lmaos experimented on you before probing your anus and dumping you back on earth as a monster
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>>145289379
>you feel thirsty
Okay I know the bad part. Also it give me -30 warmth to my head when I put it on, not sure what the good part is supposed to be.
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Is mummy a test to determine how autistic you are? Man, this shit is tedious
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>>145290548
Ye, mummies are autist's favorite, i've seen a guy on webtiles with 1.2M and 0,9M turns respectively with skills not maxed, he was training by farming a cocytus hell curse spawns.
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>>145291159
but why? just being a turbo autist or something?
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>>145291279
He said that he wants to farm Zigs and reach a danger cap for them but why does he have to do it in such masochistic fashion he didn't quite say.
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>>145291508
jesus christ thats depressing
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>>145291805
At least he has fun with it, i guess. I can't really imagine myself spending 4 real time days on one character.
http://underhound.eu:81/crawl/morgue/aredel/aredel.txt
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>>145291805
nah that's not depressing
you know what's depressing
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/MonkMummyChallenge/morgue-MonkMummyChallenge-20160612-001804.txt
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I've been thinking of making a Cataclysm adventure based comic, while the game might not exactly be the best of roguelikes, it does fall into the category of "Could be a fun read". Any interest?
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>>145292128
is the protagonist a furry
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>>145290396
>"Suffering" in the name
What were you expecting? Nice things?
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>>145292128
>I've been thinking of making a Cataclysm adventure based comic

please do it please I will give you money please
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>>145292062
>Turns: 1663767, Time: 4 , 04:18:52
>You have visited Pandemonium 106 times, and seen 584 of its levels.
>You have visited the Abyss 30 times.
Good fucking lord.
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>>145292342
I dunno, probably not but the game throws mutations like nuts so there's probably going to be some change towards mutant bodyparts.
No yiffe though, worst I've done in the game is run around with a godzilla outfit and lightning fisting zombies.
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>tfw the stand user of the 「THE DICKU」 is nowhere to be found
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>>145292659
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>>145292659
will you craft + wear the leather cat ears and hot pants
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>>145274349
>ADOM and Elona+ aren't really my cup of tea

ADOM and Elona aren't really that similar.
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>>145292128
You mean something like this?
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>>145292659
We sorely need new content and DDA is great for roleplaying. Also it could be fun!


>>145292960
you posted that right when I was posting it
I like you
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>>145292762
Needs to be a neckbeard in lingerie and a trenchcoat.
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>>145292960
I'm too arrogant to read game guides so I do stupid shit that most metafriends wouldn't do so I don't think I'll reach the comics point.
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>>145274349
What is MW?
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>>145293629
Morrowind.
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>>145293236
good
being good at cata is boring the most fun you get when starting out
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>archery is literally tab mode in pcb
How have I not tried this before?
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>>145292128
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>>145268596
>women are psychopathic demons that will cut off your dick if pushed
10/10 SOCIAL COMMENTARY DEVS
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>>145292697
>「THE DICKU」
>a smug mummified matador
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>>145268596
It's only now that I realized that Grinder was wearing a mask the whole time.
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>>145294203
Grinder?
I know her.
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What version of DCSS does /rlg/ like the best?
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My legionary made a friend, and dinner is attacking us. Im going to follow this road and go back to Rome.
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>>145294291
So this Grind'er joke is pretty much confirmed to be the name of /rlg/'s clan for the next tourney, right?
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>>145294326
0.4
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>>145294326
DCSS sucks, Linley's Crawl is where it's at.
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>>145294326
I'm fond of .12/.13 myself.
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>look at mumo
>dude doesn't autoexplore
>that's good that means that he's not taking risks
>he doesn't use > to look for to staircases
>he does everything by hand
>sometimes he goes the wrong direction
this is so SLOW
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>>145294326
play pcb instead
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>>145294474
forced memes are not funny
>>145294326
.15 because it removed item destruction.
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I'm playing UnReal World. I encountered a friendly hunter in the wild (from my tribe, if that's relevant) who after introductions went to sleep. Naturally, I stabbed him in the throat with my spear.

Nobody will come looking for him, right? "must just be a coincidence that this guy is camping not even a kilometer away from our buddy who was robbed and murdered"
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>>145294742
>forced memes are not funny

it's ironically funny, dad

fuck
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>>145294742
>forced memes are not funny

But all memes are forced.
So by your logic, no memes are funny.
That's pretty fucking heretical.
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>>145295370
name one funny meme
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>>145295370
>But all memes are forced.
Not really.
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>>145294326
0.13
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>>145295418
Rougelites.
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>>145295547
oh yeah those are pretty funny
i'd also say nintendo is a pretty funny meme in general
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Okay, I just finished coding for today.

I mainly put most of the bottlenecks into the map generation stage (so moving your character isn't laggy). And then optimized the map generation, so now it actually finishes way faster.

For comparison: for creating 10.000 floors big map the program needed like 5 minutes in the morning, and now it needs just ~5 seconds.

With this setup however digging will be harder to implement, since the tiles that are surrounded by walls on all sides now aren't generated.

Mapgen now first creates the floors and then creates walls only on unfilled tiles around them.

Tomorrow I am going to finish fov and implement a simple combat system.
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>>145292128
Yes please.
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>>145295834
10k maps or 1 map of 10k tiles?
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>>145296063
1 map of 10k floors, the walls aren't counted in.

The program creates floors till there are 10k, and then it sorrounds them with walls where needed.

I'm going to run the program now creating 10k*10k floors, will post them time.
>>
THEY SHORTENED LAIR
NOW IT'S GOT 6 LEVELS
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU DO THAT
IT WAS FREE MUMO XP
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>>145296927
I don't think they realize how much harder they keep making it for spellcasters by lopping off XP.
The game only becomes more tab-centric.
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>>145297047
I hope they remove other key-bindings besides Tab and o because they are no-brainers.
Also possible races should be low-hp race Gargoyle and high-hp race minoutaur and classes are warrior or berserker.
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>>145297371
but aren't o and tab the most no brainer keys
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>>145297563
No.
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Where does PCB keep its monster info? I got annihilated by a Great Unclean One on a character that was slaughtering most everything handily, and I'd like to see just how hard that thing hits.
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>>145296927
commit says they increased spawns so it had about the same level of xp
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>>145298349
http://angband.oook.cz/monsters.php?q=Great+unclean+one&t=&s=&v=

Hengband one is probably the most accurate.
There might be a better place but that's where I usually check.
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>>145298349
if you create a character in wizmode there's some command to dump a monster spoiler file with all the monster stats

or if you have cheats turned on you can enable "full monster memory" at char creation and you'll know all that shit from the get-go

or use the spoiler at
https://nikheizen.github.io/index.html
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>>145298349
http://mikedebo.ca/files/poschengband-spoilers/mon-info.spo
>>
One thing i like about this general is that it's safe from the tidal wave of E3's shitstorm
I love you guys, i'd splat an @ on you any day
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>>145298810
wait what is e3 happening
>>
>>145298810
I'd say most generals are. None of mine are affected by E3

>>145298868
E3 is happening right now
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>>145260165
Always trust the wiki.
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>>145298546
>the fireball explodes!
>you hear a bellow! x12 You hear an angry hiss! x4 You hear a roar! You hear an angry buzzing noise x6
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>>145298647
>>145298679
>>145298756
Thanks, but I was looking for the more internal stuff. Regular spoilers don't give the values for the poison breath, which is what killed me.
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>>145298349
play mpa-pcb for complete monster info forever riht at the start of the game
also free *id* at level 25
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>>145296282
Okay, I stopped 10k*10k experiment at 20minits.

Did a quick calculation, it would take roughly 50 hours of time. The reasonable limit of size for a level with current algorithm is around 100k floors (190 seconds).
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>>145294621
I play entirely by hand too. I don't even tab to kill fodder monsters. This got me my first 15 rune win. Total gameplay time: 1 day, 12 hours.
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>>145299010
You're going to need to code-dive for specific formulas.
Also some of the elemental damages were changed in 4.0.0 so I can't say offhand anymore.
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>>145298902
Is E3 still a thing?
do people still pay for videogames?
what a bunch of nerds.

>>145299132
that's good and everythign but spectating such people is a pain in the ass
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>>145299010
nikheizen's page has a spreadsheet for breath damage

but unlike vanilla angband PCB doesn't actually say monster breath/spell damage ANYWHERE, even in wizmode

i wonder how hard it would be to port that feature over
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>>145299074
Sorry, I messed up the calculations.
For 10k*10k is roughly 400 hours (forgot to take wall creation in account) and for 100k close to 160 seconds, so the reasonable limit is around 10k floors.
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>>145299010
monster breathe damage is always around half their health but they're capped at 700. with 3 pips of resistance you get 75% damage reduction so that's about 400ish damage at worst.

the moral is "fill your tender resist holes"
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Seems a lot harder to enchant arrows with the spell than weapons or armor.

>>145299010
Breath damage is some function of the monster's current hp, up to a cap. Maybe 500ish for poison?
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>>145299426
for base elements the damage is a quarter of their health and it's capped at 900
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>>145296282
Sorry, I meant 1k floors. 10k floors takes roughly 2-3 minutes (which I find reasonable enough)
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>>145254918
I was looking for the files just now but it seems like I lost them at some point. Maybe the Elona general can help you there: >>>/jp/15370377
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>>145299197
>nikheizen's page has a spreadsheet for breath damage
Thanks! Not sure how I missed that table.

>>145299426
Yeah, looks like GUO poison is 600, which would've been quite survivable if I'd had even one pip of rPo. The funny thing is I had solid coverage for literally everything else (except time).
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>>145299724
If 10k floors takes 2-3 minutes that's really bad because it's a 100 by 100 map.
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>>145299826
poison is quite hard to cover because it's not basic and it's not exotic so it doesn't really happen often
it's just poison
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>>145298926
You are poisoned!
You are engulfed in petrifying clouds!(or whatever cataqplebos breath says)
You die...
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>>145300116
>dying to cataqplepos breath

lmao git gud
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>>145300116
The spiny frog hits!
The black mamba hits!
The spiny frog hits!
You die...
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>>145299724
Please stop making errors you're confusing me.

>>145299898
He can just generate each floor as needed in a split second. And no one is going to play a 10,000 floor roguelike to completion. I don't even know why he's generating so many floors.
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>>145300337
>He can just generate each floor as needed in a split second
He is using stupid terminology. By floor he means tile.
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>>145300498
No, by floor I mean floor. Full 100x100 map is never generated.

The algorithm looks like this:
Generate a floor, move in random direction, generate new floor.

When all floors are generated, it checks their neighbours, and if they are empty it fills them with walls.

I am generating so many floors just to get a idea of time needed.
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>>145300926
what the fuck does floor even mean here

because in traditional terminology the "floor" is the entire are on the same vertical plane

anywhere you go north, south, east or west you'll still be on the same floor
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>>145300926
that's not what a floor means dude

it's a tile
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>>145301052
Sorry for confusion, lots of guides use floor instead of tile, so I thought that tiles are basically walls, floors, ... and everything else with x,y coordinates.
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Which would be better as a starting beastman mut, magic resistance or telepathy?
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>>145301440
Floor generally refers to level, you go up and down floors with staircases. Tiles are both walls and empty spaces
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>>145301496
is the magic resist mutation actual magic resist or is it just a bonus to saving throw

telepathy is always good anyways
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>>145301562
Looks like saving throw, what other kind of magic resistance is there?
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RIP my mummy
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>>145301892
spellwarp automatons take straight up 35% less damage from spells (not breaths though)

there's also some super-rare ego hat that does a similar thing but you'll probably only get it grinding 555
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>>145301957
Close the gap, he won't hit you while wielding that
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>>145301892
Resistance that actually lowers damage received by a percentage amount.
Spellwarp automatons get it and the Unbeliever-ego has it but it's one of the rarest ones.
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>>145302040
I don't have 555 in my version and I've also changed it so beastmen have a 1 in 3 chance to gain muts per level from 1 in 5.
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>>145302064
>he won't hit you while wielding that
Actually he will.
And it will hurt a lot, too. Because that's a +5 highly accurate weapon in the hands of a depths-tier monster.
>>
>-100 morale for shooting a dumb nigger who tried capping me with his colt .45
L M A O
nice """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""game"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" catafags
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>>145302729
Anon, rods aren't categorized as weapons anymore
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>>145302796
shouldn't you be screaming at your computer screen and watching E3, normie

>>145302927
No!
That's impossible!
>>
just won a ruk caster
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>>145302064
>>145302729
Used some consumables to ninja the loot and pull him into the Lair. This is becoming my new lab strat. Got a rod of ignition and a rod of shadows when I kill him later.

>>145302927
He still hit me.
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>>145303110
>yet he couldn't break the curse
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>>145301496
There's a +speed one if you're looking for other good ones to startscum for.
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>shieldmasters are specifically cased to get a small leather shield instead of a metal shield from the warg quest
This has to be an oversight, right?

>>145303679
I stuck with telepathy because while I'm not underestimating the value of speed it tends to be available in a larger variety of slots.
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>>145303882
you know you can literally edit your quest rewards with notepad++
you just gotta write the name of the thing you want
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>>145303991
boots of Feanor
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>>145303991
How do you think I found out that it was cased that way? Also, it seems to go by an object code instead of just the name. Fortunately I can just copy it from the non-cased reward.
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>>145304026
oh yeah well
it's tricky for artifacts but you could do that yes
>>145304089
>Also, it seems to go by an object code instead of just the name.
no you're picking the wrong file
it's the uuuuh what's the name again
I think it's q1 or whatever
>>
>>145304168
Warg quest does not have one of those, and I know it's the right file because the commit that changed the reward for Doom Quest 1 to a cloak of stealth instead of an elven cloak changed the same type of file.
>>
you're looking in the wrong files

the wrong files dude
there are like three files that have related quest rewards
poscheng quest management is awful

fine I'll look into it
>>
>>145304345
Explain this shit then.

https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/commit/0e09af26b61d14e76e3f338b627c316b1772d4e8

All it edited was t0000004.txt (Angwil town file) and t_lite.txt (lite town file). Did not touch any of the q0000000x files.
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Here you lazy bums
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>>145304586
That's the fucking file I was in, you cunt.
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>>145304650
No you said t00000004 you stupid motherfucker
we're talking the first quest and the shield reward
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>>145304768
I used that commit as a fucking reference, I figured out pretty quickly that t0000004 was just for Angwil. Explain how I screenshotted the appropriate reward line if I wasn't in the right file.
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>>145304863
because you screenshotted quest14 you shitbag
this is quest 1
fucking 1
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>>145305028
Warg quest is quest 14. Thieves is quest 1, and I was never talking about thieves. Take a look at >>145303882 again.
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>>145305083
>Warg quest is quest 14.
there you go inventing shit all over again
that's just so you anon
you never know when to throw the towel and go on telling blatant lies on the internet
seriously I'm fucking mad what the fuck is wrong with you quest 14 is the oberon one
>>
>>145305241
I don't even care if you're trolling at this point.

https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/blob/master/lib/edit/t0000001.txt#L170
>>
>>145305392
>going so far as to clone a different github page and link me there
I see the author of the change and his name is not chris, anon
you're really just digging yourself a deeper grave it's quite painful to watch.
Please stop.
For your sake. This is not healthy.
>>
Now kiss
>>
>>145306172
nooo anon you're gonna ruin everythiiiing
>>
That new lair change sounds dope. I fucking hate lair.
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>>145306431
I bet you like sucking cock too
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>>145306431
>>
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>>145306431
>I fucking hate lair.

>>145306613
hey now there's nothing wrong with sucking a dick or two every now and then
>>
>they made the dungeon only 20 floors
>they made orc only 2 floors
>they made lair only 6 floors

when will it end
>>
>>145306668
*reblogs le undertale reference to my tumblr*
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>>145306772
most important, this broke everything
the branches aren't 27 levels deep in total anymore

they are fucking up their own lore and THEY'RE LAUGHING

THEY'RE
LAUGHING
>>
>>145303256
Me Ruk Caster troll of ashenzari
>>
>>145306772
They made vaults 5 floors
They made lair branches 4 floors.
It will never end
>>
>>145306931
>lair 8
>slime 6
>shoal/snake 5
>swamp/spider 5
>orc 4

holy shit
you're right
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>>145306613
I would not know, as I have never tried. Could it be that you're craving my chapped lips, anon?

>>145306727
Its a very easy area with 1 hard body check (Spiny frogs and black mambas, which are a shitty dps checks anyway) that every character except for the most diesel of diesel is going to complete. You go there, eat your yaks while walking away from hydras and come out far better for it. I'd prefer that it took less time, but understand that the danger free exp is somewhat needed.

>>145306772
Don't forget the branch changes, which were really nice as well.
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>>145307262
>You go there, eat your yaks while walking away from hydras and come out far better for it.
and what's fucking wrong with that

what's fucking wrong with you

did you just fucking say "the dangers of free xp"
are you fucking memeing at me
>>
>>145306668
>+4 broad axe
Literally the most stupid thing in this whole picture
>>
where do i find sprites for elona
i'm looking for shota sprites for my pets
>>
>>145307407
>did you fucking say "the dangers of free xp"
He said "the danger-free xp is needed"
>>
>>145307601
YEAH
HE SAID THAT FREE XP IS BAD
SO HE LITERALLY WARNED ME AGAINST THE DANGERS OF FREE XP
>>
>>145307478
He cleared hundreds of zigs with it tho
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>>145307558
Better to ask /jp/ I'd wager.
Alternatively you could also bounce a quarter off of Shena's ass.
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>>145307558
http://pastebin.com/vZ8Hfw6C

Taken from >>>/jp/15370377

I haven't played in a long while (2 years?) but I think there's the option to customize individual sprites instead of making a complete sheet. There are a lot of individual sprites floating on the internet, such as this sexy Lulwy.
>>
>>145306668
Is this the face of autism?
>>
>>145307407
Its wrong because its boring ass slog. You do your D:1-D:8~ run of high octane shenanigans, find lair and remove all animals. Its more of the same early dungeon stuff of fast poison dudes or same speed guys who hit hard. Most of the enemies that can actually beat feet evocation are pretty rare (rime drakes, catoblepi, basilisk) and anything else that can is relegated to vaults. And one is just a shitty MR check. I hate those too.

Also, please reread.
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>>145308063
>Its wrong because its boring ass slog.
you
fucking idiot
>>
>>145308063
why is it bad that there's a nice and easy source of exp and resources in the game

not everything should be a hard fought struggle
>>
>>145308029
No, it's lods of emone.
>>
>>145308137
Nice reasoning you convinced me that your opinion is correct.
>>
>>145308137
It is pretty dull though. You just walk around killing yaks, sheep, rats, frogs and bears while avoiding the hydras until you have to kill them too. Walk away from eel pools, and try to 1v1 the sneks and frogs and you're literally golden. I've done that stupid lair hundreds of times and maybe it has grated my sanity away but I really relish the idea of 2 less levels for a more condensed lair.
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>>145308426
what's wrong with you
are you the kind of guy who likes branches
are you the kind of guy who likes SHOALS
what's fucking wrong with you
lair is the best part of the game
it's the comfiest
like orc 123 used to be
>>
>>145308426
Oh no, you'd have to spend an extra 3 minutes to clear out the last two floors, the horror
>>
>>145308607
I unironically have a love/hate relationship with shoals/snake/spider. But literally only orb spiders and the technical dance that is OoD manipulation. That might be my favorite thing to do in a 3 rune, even though the rest of spider is literally the worst. I don't know man, DCSS was never comfy for me. Even when I was raising thousands of skeletons to rattle around. It just made me feel like a doom guy without LODES DEMONS to kill. Where is the danger? Where is the fun?
>>
>mummy
>3 items with +regen
>can't drink potions
I am a shitty vinestalker
>>
>>145309000
There is very little, unfortunately. I've finally come to realize, after almost thirty wins. I still enjoy the first eight or so floors, then it goes away, never to return.
>>
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>>145309027
Gozag finally delivered holy shit. After 2 weapon acquirements and 2 weapon shop petitions failed me.
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>>145309259
Its ok, anon. We appreciate different things out of crawl. Older crawl was definitely chock full of that kind of feeling. I just prefer walking into shoals with 15 AC/20 EV, 2 pips of MR and a heavy sense of dread rather than the old style "Do lair -> orc -> dungeon -> some vaults -> Now do your branches". It was very safe, but I found it dull.
>>
>>145309385
psssh
>>
>>145309259
Actually, I misread and assumed you were talking about the 8 floors of lair. We are really kindred souls, you and I.
>>
>>145309385
weeb
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What did they mean by this?
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>>145309385
Weeb mummy samurai wielding the superior nippon steel folded +8 thousand times
now get cBlink so you can teleport behind ur enemy
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>bump limit
somebody bake new bread bls
>>
new:

>>145310695
>>145310695
>>145310695
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>>145307258
Orc is 2 now m8
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