/rlg/ - Roguelike General

Your next line will be MISS DICKU.

>>145310695
>keeping the bardings
lel

>Surely this orc warrior won't roll maximum damage
>Surely i won't botch both my EV and AC rolls
>There is no way he'll do 30 damage
>No way

WHAT DO I USE MY SCROLL OF AQUIRE ON

>>145311385
WE'A'PON

>>145311385
GOT WEAPON AND GOT A +5 EXECUTIONERS AXE OF FLAMING RIGHT BEFORE LAIR EASY GAME

>>145311385
If the only wands you haven't identified are heal wounds and/or haste, acquire wand. Otherwise acquire armor.
A lot of people like to acquire jewelry. That's like the worst acquirement you can attempt due to the way it decides what you will get.
Weapon is okay-ish, but it has a tendency of giving non-artifacts, and even weapons for which you haven't invested a single bit of xp.

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>>145310968

>>145309886
I hope you'll find some fresh fun somewhere, anon.

>>145311754
I always carry my fun with me
*unzips dick*

Jorgrun Earthshaker comes into view. He is wielding a staff of earth.
_J - a +9 iron rod (13/13) (in hand)
Jorgrun shouts!
Jorgrun mumbles some strange words.
The dungeon rumbles around Jorgrun!
You shudder from the earth-shattering force.
_Ka-crash!
There is a stone staircase leading up here.
The burst of metal fragments hits Jorgrun. x7
You kill Jorgrun!
Makhleb accepts your kill.
You feel better.
Your Axes skill increases to level 14!
lol

>>145312167
>YOU KILL JORGRUN!
FUCK
YOU

>>145311754
For some reason, my brain read fun and immediately imagined Wu Tang's "The 8 floors of Lair" featuring such hits as SHAME ON A NAGA and DA MYSTERY OF SHADOW BOXING. Fun is always at hand.

>>145311385
always get wands
if you dont have the good ones youll get one usually teleport

>>145312252
he was in Swamp 2 next to Roxanne, thank god he didnt have any glass or metal walls to shatter near me

>>145312258
SHAME ON A NAGA

>>145312459
TRYIN TO RUN A GAME WIT A NAGA
GO MAGIC WILD CHEI WILL FUCK YOUR SHIT UP

>>145312459
D FOUR KILLAH BEES, WE GUNNA SWARM
D FOUR KILLAH BEES, WE GUNNA SWARM

>This is a comfortable place to sleep.
>You lie down to go to sleep...
>You try to sleep, but can't...
>This is a comfortable place to sleep.
>You lie down to go to sleep...
>You try to sleep, but can't...
>This is a comfortable place to sleep.
>You lie down to go to sleep...
>You try to sleep, but can't...
>This is a comfortable place to sleep.
>You lie down to go to sleep...
>You try to sleep, but can't...
>This is a comfortable place to sleep.
>You lie down to go to sleep...
>You try to sleep, but can't...
>Commit suicide? y

https://youtu.be/ZbqYsnbQZaE

Are crab enemies the worst thing in DCSS??

>>145312459
a naga who die in he own branch?

a shameful naga

Remember when branches were 7 deep and actually threatening?

>>145313341
Is this naga serious?

The 27-headed Lernaean hydra bites your soul eater!
A six-headed hydra comes into view.
Your hellwing blocks the burst of metal fragments.
Your hellwing's corpse armour sloughs away.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack.
The burst of metal fragments hits the 27-headed Lernaean hydra.
You kill the 27-headed Lernaean hydra!
Makhleb accepts your kill.
Your demonic guardian avoids your attack. x4
Your soul eater is almost dead.
Your hellwing gestures.
The bodies of the dead form a shell around your hellwing.
damn they really made demonic allys mad sick with it yo. i just shoot right through them 100%

>ogres
>1 spellcasting
>-3 in all schools

but i want to be the ogre mage

>>145313694
then pick one school

>no wu-tang clan roguelike
OH WAIT THERE IS
http://www.talesofgames.com/related_game/the-sewer-goblet/

>>145313694
The idea is they get to be slightly good at every school.

>>145313936
That's dumb. Humans can be really good at every school

>>145313832
>>145313936
inb4 the old school

>>145314085
FIRST THINGS FIRST, YOU'RE THE FUCKING WORST
I'LL BE STICKING RUKS IN YOUR HEAD TO BREAK THIS CURSE

The new merfolk tiles are cuties.

>>145314085
school of hard ruks?

>>145312767
This accurately sums up the 30 minutes I played of cata

Is my lvl 19 character with 25 AR and EV and mindelay weapon speed good enough for slime pits?

>>145314076
Yes but humans don't get ruks and GSCs.

>>145314592
No.

>>145314592
Yes. Post link so we can watch.

>>145314609
Shut up.

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>>145314592

>>145314169
>>145314450
>try troll hunter for the first time
>pick ruks
>D:1 centaur for some fucking reason
>throw ruk
>"You kill the centaur!"
>D:2 Wiglaf
>throw ruk
>"You kill Wiglaf!"
>find ossuary
>throw ruk
>kill mummy
>run out of ruks
>die
That was fun. Time to play a different combo that I'll never use again.

>>145314661
http://crawl.akrasiac.org:8080/#watch-Ketziah
it was a troll i know im not ready but watch anyway

>>145314724
>d2 Wiglaf
Wat

>>145314953
These OoD spawns are getting insane

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>>145312767
>not doing drugs
Besides ambien, cough syrup and mutant poppy, there's meth. The stimulant effect wears off quickly, and afterwards you'll be tired enough to sleep for days.

Or just use a vibrator, if you're a pussy.

>>145315063
>The stimulant effect wears off quickly, and afterwards you'll be tired enough to sleep for days.

That's why you're supposed to keep taking it until you start arguing with your appliances.

>>145314953
I just searched for the morgue to show you but no, it was only Terence. And then D:4 Eustachio. So nothing out of the ordinary. There really was a centaur though lel.

>>145315063
how do you inject crystal with the syringe

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EXP RULES EVERYTHING AROUND ME
TAB, GET THE OGRES
ECHS PEE ECHS PEE Y'ALL

>>145315481
that image is awesome

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>trying to grind electronics until I can make a recharging station for my deathmobile
>first garage I find in days has nothing but a recharging station in it
Just fuck my shit up

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It's always rough when you first start dual wielding.

>>145315686
To make matters better I just had an NPC shoot me when I was driving past and it exploded my rig. Yet the logs didn't say I had a gastank rupture or anything.

>>145316210
does anyone have the image of the load bearing fence he broke and in turn destroying that guys entire loot cart?

>>145316210
If it makes you feel better I killed myself by knocking down an empty window frame, and when I checked the logs, it checked out as an actual explosion, rather than the building collapsing.

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>thieves quest reward
I hope I can find vorpal or some shit.

>>145315441
The same way you inject any other crystal. You dissolve it in water first.

>>145316653
thanks anon I got these from some weird guy outside but I wasn't sure if I was supposed to eat them or something
guess I know what I'm doing tonight

>>145316603
that's very good for thief reward
a rarely resisted (early on) brand on a solid 2d5 base dice

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This may be one of the only times in the game I can wear this without much worry.

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>>145316934
I also found this. Not too bad and it'll make a good replacement for my starting broadsword.

>>145317117
I don't play PCB or any Angband variant, but is there ANYTHING that can be harmed by the elements?

>>145317245
Any non-ego items, ego are often vulnerable to some but not all, I believe almost all artifacts are invulnerable to the elements but can be hit by disenchantment damage.

>>145317245
also a lot of consumables and devices can be destroyed by various elements (e.g. staves and scrolls by fire/plasma, potions by shards/cold/shatter, rods by electricity, etc)

>>145316827
Don't do it anon, it makes mustard gas.

how the fuck do I escape sinkholes in C:DDA?

>>145318615
I'm guessing you're playing 0.C stable (so named because it was last updated a century ago)?

You're fucked, unless you happen to be carrying a jackhammer around and are lucky enough to be close enough to a lab or sewer that you can dig over to it.

In experimentals i think they changed it to a pit trap type thing instead of a trap door.

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I love this.

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Nice item gen.

>>145318615
>>145319019
You're super fucked unless you either have long rope or a jackhammer. Or find one and fuel.

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I wonder what controls the failure rate on this.

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snake branch is probably the cutest
naw mean
(i just took this)

>>145318615
You strip naked, cut all your clothes into rags, and make a rope out of the rags.
Or just savescum or debug-teleport out.

>>145320341
But it's also full of big burly not-cute snakemen.

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On D12 along with some metal levitation boots.

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NaAs in da house

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>>145320398
same could be said for all ghetto blocks
would you rather a swamp??

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Don't spam on me.

>>145319019
how much further ahead are the experimental builds?

>>145320341
Jumping spiders are cuter than any snek

>>145320764
Fuck, you just know there is a worm in there.

RIP telepathy you were delicious.

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It's been a while

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>>145321115
Figures.

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>>145320978
i probably took 30 dead earthworms out of it in the deep end alone. god i hate openin my pool. those liner tears are gonna cost me so much money
but after a 90 degree day at least ill have a pool. in like a week.

>>145320973
naw
look at this fucker been hidin in my window sill to my basement
hes 3 inches

>>145319734
wild talent? It depends on the stat used by the class the power is taken from. Pretty sure Teleport is from Mages and so Int (and levels?)

>>145321404
::3

>>145321404
>Hating spiderbros.

>>145321334
>30 minutes later and still no decision in sight

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>>145321578
he ate a big cockroach i got it on video ill put it and post later

i dont hate them but if it came down to handling snakes or spiders its snakes every time. even venomous ones
spiny toads can fuck right off as well

>>145321456
Beastman. Worried it was int, guess I won't be using it for a while. I didn't find a single potion of intelligence the last game I played, and I was in level 40+ dungeons for some time.

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From orc quest? I didn't even know rings of speed spawned at that depth.

>>145321820
Cute froggies

How long until Granade succumbs to 7,62 High Calibre autism and we're stuck having to collect and load firearm magazines to reload guns?

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>>145322052
i felt bad disturbing their nesting area

and fuck ghost moths too

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Thank you ring of speed.

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Goodbye main gauche.

>>145323184
>oak shaft
enjoy your splinters
cherry for life

>>145322569
already in experimental

>>145320965
Literally thousands of commits. 0.C came out in March 2015.

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>>145323384
>weaboo wood

>>145312437
Fuck you.
Jorgrun didn't do anything to you.

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I AM NOW A STONE OF LORE

PCB weaponmasters versus warriors. Opinions?

I was pretty happy with my swordmaster, but only got to the midgame (35ish, around level 50 dungeons). Toggleable vampiric brand was great. Never gotten a warrior anywhere near that high, so I'm not sure how they compare.

>>145324098
weaponmsters are good
good standart swords are a lot more common than standart other weapon/shooter types

warriors are much more flexible in terms of armaments than weaponmasters, which is most noticable when on a not-sword master. They tend to wield vampiric weapons for a lot of the mid and late game, transitioning away only in the very lategame where the most common dangerous opponents are lifeless demons/undead.

>>145323510
to be honest i just cross checked the hardness of oak and cherry and oak is better than cherry by 550~~~
i was wrong

>>145324098
Warriors are better at dual wielding (except for maybe daggermasters), don't have weapon restrictions, have more blows, and are better at shooting (aside from the ranged weaponmasters).

In exchange they don't get any fun abilities.

>>145323689
You're goddamn right he didn't, I blew him up so bad there wasnt even a corpse

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>30 pounds
Can I dual wield with this thing at my strength level and not be total shit?

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>>145324881
Looks like I just found out.

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FUCK THIS SHITTY DEVICE SKILL

>>145325214
it's your 12 int mostly

>>145321678
>reach profile preview screen
>press enter
>nothing happens
>press shift
>prompt to enter name
>read profile again, realize pressing enter rerolled some things
>press esc to go back, instead what it does is to finish character creation, and a random name was generated because the box was empty
FUCK time to spend another hour pressing reroll

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Is this a rare drop? Got it from that Ishikawa guy.

>>145326413
yeah that's one of the better mid and sometimes lategame weapons

watch out, it has a certain drawback...but it's definitely worth using

>>145320965
You should know the latest experimental has an annoying bug where the screen doesn't refresh when closing some menus, forcing you to check your inventory or the map or something to be able to see shit. A fix is done, but hasn't been merged yet. Wait a day or two before downloading.

>>145313694
you gotta go ash and get skill boosts, then you can become the ogre mage.

>tfw clearing elf with an XL 16 Ogre because of statue form and berserk and killholes

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>>145326543
>it has a certain drawback
Tell me before I fault.

>>145326652
It's way more fun if you find out on your own.

>>145326652
It teaches you to read messages if it doesn't seem to be working.

>>145326279
Unless the int bonus is per increase (which I'm not sure if it is) it's mostly the device skill. My last character had less int than that and considerably better devices.

>>145326609
that is legit no problem with me since i'm always alt tabbing out and back in and hitting shift + 7 to refresh the screen, but thank you

>>145326884
device skill matters a lot, but 12 is a lot less than 18/220, and even on low skill race/class combos the difference from getting your int up later on is very noticable.

But it always helps to have a good device race if you're a yolo-bad-at-devices class.

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>>145326775
>>145326861
Okay.

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I guess this is good.

Had to pick mummy to be able to play a game with Gozag. This god needs work and I wish dpeg would finish this god already instead of leaving him in this shitty state.

>>145327181
>orb guardians are created by the orb to defend itself
>somehow can still be bribed

Muh lore.

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>>145327372
The orb will go with you.... for a price of course.

>>145327181
>had to pick mummy to play a game with gozag
Why exactly?

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>there will never be a decent first-person roguelite that carries over all the mechanics of DCSS

>instead we just get shit like Delver and Barony which have all the depth of a kiddie pool.

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>>145327497
Because muh hunger cost.

>>145327818
b-but food literally litters the dungeon now, it's impossible to starve

>>145327949
Goz is a good excuse to use a mummy anyway.

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>555

>>145327181

If Goz had Hire Merc as an ability I would pick him all the damn time. As it stands he's, ironically, a very poor return on investment.

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>of gondolin
Is this that rare mini-ringil enchantment?

>>145311612
>If the only wands you haven't identified are heal wounds and/or haste, acquire wand. Otherwise acquire armor.
This advice is terrible, please don't do that.

In Crawl, always acquire wands.

The reasoning why can be found in the archive.

>>145329763
>c - a wand of draining
>H - a wand of slowing
>F - a wand of frost
>i - a wand of random effects
yeah, there's a reason it's called wand roulette

>>145329763
>always acquire wands
The last time I followed this advice it only served me to get lightning, para and poly. I suppose a tele wand could also be good, but besides that, why would acquiring wands be always the best choice?

>>145329763
you mean staff/misc if you're using evocations
or book for casters with non-caster gods
or gold if there's a variety of shops and there's guaranteed good shit in them

>>145329763
>this advice is terrible, follow my slightly better but still bad advice instead

This is objectively the best guide for acquirement:
https://crawl.develz.org/tavern/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=20065
http://i.imgur.com/dl7aXwH.png

>>145329763

>this advice is terrible, listen to my terrible advice instead

Don't be a dummy.

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Oh come the fuck on.

>>145330271
There it is!

>>145327949
the first time I played gozag was the first time my character has ever starved to death

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>>145330448
Obviously "no harming women" effects Shelob too. I was going to take the katana it off but it actually got cursed so I just spammed plasma bolt at her.

>>145330787
huh, the first time I played gozag was the first time I won with gozag. Food was only a problem early on.

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not too bad, the only mistake was not going chei in the first place, skilling diversion and wrath cost me a few lives

>>145330126
I'm going to assume that's a link to minmay's post without clicking on it, and you should know that his/her flowchart is wrong.

Acquiring a weapon is badvice in itself, because both the short term and long term benefits of wand acquirement outweigh the benefits of weapon acquirement. Endgame weapons for every skill are available by the time you reach Orc. /Hasting, /HW, /Disint, /Dig, /Tele, these are things that provide a benefit to your character both immediately and with a much longer tail than weapon acquirement. And in the worst case if you get a damage wand, then you still have something that's good through the end of Lair.

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Legendary you say?

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This is the only combination i have fun with.

I walked into view of five eels that all shot electricity at me on one turn and I died. I didn't even think that was possible.

>>145331571
>15 runes in 5 hours
damn man, that's prettty swift

>>145331571
You have pretty good taste anon.

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Man I love this katana apart from its downside.
>tfw can't kill tiamat with it
>>145331571
Nice one anon.

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT NO WAY

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>>145331937
Feels really fucking good.

>kill lancelot with the last of my arrows
>black dragonfly comes in and vomits acid all over them
Literally the worst part about archers.

>>145331675
I was trying to max everything but hated the grind too much and stopped.

>>145332738
the grind's pretty fast in zigs, but I would be very impressed if you could zig chain to max skills with chei

>>145331745
>>145331796
Thanks

>>145330950
First of all acquiring a good weapon is a huge benefit in the short term (more than a wand).

Second, polearms do not have an "endgame" weapon available until depths. As for long blades and axes, yes you can beat the game easily with a great sword or battleaxe, but acquiring a weapon still has a good chance of giving you a big boost. With maces acquiring wand is always better.

None of the wands you named provide any significant benefit immediately, assuming you have potions of haste, hw, and teleport scrolls, which you probably do. Especially digging killholes is the biggest shitter meme in the last year or two. Just use stairs, how hard is it to use stairs. People who dig killholes think they're using some kind of pro strat, which is laughable because stairs are superior in many ways and don't need wands.

There is one valid argument for acquiring wand over weapon. The benefit of a wand of hw/haste/tele becomes better than the benefit of acquiring a weapon once the player gets to depths and hell knights start dropping good weapons. If you're close to Depths or in Depths, then acquiring wand is better. If you're far from Depths then the benefit of a good weapon is more important.

So the chart needs 2 amendments:
1. If you're close to or in Depths, wand is better than weapon.
2. If you're using maces, wand is always better.

>>145332830
Chei seems to be the only god I can get to end game with. If I got torment resist mutation I would have tried zig max.

>>145332918
>digging killholes is the biggest shitter mem
Thanks for invalidating your post so I don't have to bother

>>145332918
>>145333082
I should clarify that killholes are sometimes useful but if you use them more than like twice per 3 rune game you should learn how to walk away from monsters and go up stairs.

>>145328654
it's an ego for weapons, often pretty solid in the early-mid game and then falling off

>>145333435
>stairdancing is more powerful than killholes
it's like I'm in the forums listening to shitters bitch about how digging ruins immersion all over again

>>145323478
>the feel of updating to experimental and slow/mundane zombies aren't available by default
I do love how they grab you now though

>>145331937
>digging
Hah, that's a nice touch.

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So what happens when you kill your nemesis?
Killholes work

>>145330008
i literally got random effects wands twice in a row
already had haste and teleport though
but still a shitty roll
never again

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Sathla is not a girl has been proven.

>>145330950
I acquired weapons on my guy because I had found /HW already.
I got a +7 freezing dwhip which has completely carried my ass through the game.

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>it's another "torse encumbrance makes me die to a sewer rat" episode
how fucking stupid does Granade have to be to make Melee Skill penalty drop by one whole fucking level per encumbrance? Now I know why I ditched this fucking game

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Is this just flavor text or a new feature? Who is in charge of these awful laws?

>>145337201

"Get a functional weapon" is vastly more important than "get a wand of digging." Weapon acq is a great idea if the Floor God hasn't blessed you. Wands are just delaying the inevitable if you don't have a beatstick.

And with Crawl pretty much any "always do this" advice is suspect besides stuff like turning off auto-leveling.

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Why hello there.

Ho-lee fuck has Shatter always had an animation?
Jorgrun certainly knows how to get my attention.

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Kind of annoying how he broke my potions to heal and buff himself.

>>145337707
>it's another "anon holds down a direction key while fighting and blames the game" episode
Did that rat ambush you in a dead-end hallway, so you couldn't run away? Did it nibble you to death so fast you couldn't drop your backpack?

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>scatha into smaug into quaker
That was quite the wild ride.

Spriggan ghost EV, man.

>>145338637
Utgard-Loke's a gigantic dick in general.

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My first win using long blades and also my first win with Ashenzari.
Gotta say it was extremely painful. Fun fact: rod of shadows can summon 3 caustic shrikes in zot 5.

>>145345010
Didja stairdance Sigmund to D1 just for the nice finish?

>>145310695

Rip cards.

>>145345069
Yeah, I came up those stairs and he was right on the entrance, that dick. But when I tried to position him his stupid AI wouldnt follow me. Then that pan lord popped up and I didnt want to risk it haha

Which would be an easy roguelike for starters?

>>145345315
Dungeon crawl stone soup

>>145345315
Demon
DCSS is ridiculously hard these days for unspoiled newbies

>>145345428
>dcss
>hard

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>>145345428
>DCSS is ridiculously hard these days for unspoiled newbies

>>145345315
I wouldn't really call any roguelike easy, part of the genre is their difficulty. I guess you're looking for one easy to learn?

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>>145336078
>Implying a dumb sword could understand true Eldritch beauty

>>145345895
Kinda. Yeah, easy to learn.

One with simple mechanics, not a huge combination of strategies like Nethack, and preferably with intuitive commands/control.

>>145345339
>>145345428
>>145345632
So, Demon or DCSS?

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>another fucking katana
I'm not even sure if it's worth replacing zan for.

>>145346396

Brogue is incredibly easy to learn in terms of commands and control. Also very transparent with mechanics.

It's also one of the trickiest in terms of actually winning. Gets you used to dying as a fact of life.

>>145346396
Id say anything but crawl, the tiles will spoil you. play the ascii only games

>>145346553
>>145346682
Thanks guys, I'll check those ones out too.

BTW, I'm fine with the game being hard to win, but easy to play and get started.

>>145345010
>you can't go down here
kek

>>145346980
Fuck, it just looks so much like a down stairs to me, I do it every single time.

>>145347176
They should just make < or > do both. There's no way to be on both an up and down stairs at the same time.

>>145348541
no fuck off

>>145349316
b-but he has a point

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hahaha

>>145348541
W should let you wear jewelry and armour. T should let you remove jewelry as well as armour.

>>145349553
Exactly.

>>145315481
Marvelous.

I got to -3 on my fourth game of Cogmind and died. It seems like if you just stack flight units and get lucky with the stairs you can blitz through pretty quickly. It's fun but I wouldn't pay 30 dollarydoos for it.

>>145350354
Never pay any money for a roguelike.

>>145350396
Pay money for every roguelike.

look at my combos

http://crawl.akrasiac.org/scoring/players/tittycrusher.html

>>145351162
attention whore namefag fuck off

>>145351265
just look, you won't be disappointed

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>>145351282
Kill yourself.

>>145351282
Fear mine homo cock?

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>>145351162
>>145351423
Just when I thought you couldn't get more based. Seriously, this cheered me up after the absolute shit show that was game of thrones. 10/10, you're truly my favorite dude to spectate

>>145354367

okay, WHAT is the deal with Elona?
I tried to get into it, but it's just too goofy

what does rlg see in elona?

>>145354832
It's fun and doesn't take itself seriously. Just like me...

>>145354832
It reminded me of when I was a wee lad who would waste all my time playing runescape, except you don't even get to ask random dudes about their fishing level. Its cozy as fuck and you get to grind forever, plus it has tons of weeb stuff if you're into that.

>>145354852
Haha me too... get on the /rlg/ discord and we can talk about it ;)

>>145354832
You can get a nice grinding experience like in MMOs but you don't have to look at other dirty peasants playing too.

>>145355003
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

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Why do all the level 9 spells need to make deafening amounts of noise?

>>145355298
It'd be too easy to sneak around and blast unaware enemy groups if they didn't

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>kill corwin
>get this shat all over my face
It's funny too, amberites (even benedict) are fucking pushovers but the blood curse they have is retarded. Guess it's back to monk.

>>145355298
Because they're really powerful.
It's like when you go a week without ejaculating and when you finally ejaculate it makes that deafening glopping and spurting sound and a smell that by itself impregnates every living female within a mile radius.

>>145355397
Yeah, but pulling the entire goddamn floor with a single Shatter seems excessive.

>>145355491
That doesn't happen to me

>>145355432
Were you at full health when you struck the final blow?
Did you switch to a [M]-amulet?

>>145355529
Low test.

>>145355516
You're blowing up parts of the dungeon, it's gonna make a lot of noise.

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>>145355550
Yeah I was full health it's just that I took a cyberdemon rocket and a chaos breath along with other assorted shit. No [M]-amulet though.

>>145355516
>Not just shattering again

>>145355676
You're fault.

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>>145355890
I HAD EXCALIBUR

>>145355934
It's not that good even.
I've had the Boots of Faenor, an Elven Ring of Power, Golden Crown of Amber and Dor-Lomin sitting in the house along with a +17 speed ring and I still splatted like an asshole.
We just have to face the act that we're baddies.
Oh yeah I also found a power dragon scale mail with that character but couldn't use it because of monk.

>>145356030
>Not wearing the boots of faenor

>>145356076
Oh, I was.
I only meant that Dor-Lomin was sitting in the house.
I was wearing all that other shit.
Also I found a crown of the Unbeliever but it only had 5% resist so I ditched it.

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>>145356030
>>145356121
>we will never kill serpent

>>145356292
I've concluded that what I need to beat the Serpent is a Demigod (Demonic Grasp, Evasion) Monk with a perfect stat spread, 120 life-rating, Boots of Faenor, The One Ring, Vilya, unbeliever ego with 15% reduction and a pip of all resists, standart Robe similar to Twilight but with great AC, gloves with all resists, cloak with all resists and an anti-summoning amulet.
Gloves and cloak so that I also get immunities to fire and cold but no Thanos because of AFC and aggravation.

>>145356601
>being this bad

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>>145356696

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>>145356601
>demigod
I hope you enjoy your exp penalty.

>>145356740
>no anime girls on the other side of the noose

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>>145357012
I've got you senpai.

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I want to cuddle this.

>>145357126
They're human from the waist up.

>>145357652
I don't CARE
JUST LET ME HAVE THIS

>>145357706
That bee will likely work itself to death, finding solace only in fermented fruit. Her sisters will hate her for it because she spends time being drunk instead of working harder.

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>>145357753
okay then uh
what about dragons

>>145357801
Dragons are for slaying, not for lewds or cuddles.

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>>145357826
Alright
it seems like you got a case of the shit taste
you don't wanna fuck dragons
you don't wanna fuck bees

I've really tried to get you anon but I guess we really can't be friends

>>145357941
Its ok, anon. Not everyone in the world will be someone you want to be friends with. What matters is that you work to be kind to them. However, you seem to be some kind of fruity elf. Elves aren't for friends, they're for killing and eating.

>>145358031
You mean for slavery and rape

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>>145358182
>sticking your dick into a dirty elf

>>145355432
I'm always a little happy when you die.You also continue to neglect constitution.

>>145351162
jej

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Deadiest general on /vg/.
I doubt anyone wants to see my stupid splats or Android Rune-Knight shilling.

case SPELL_MUT_DESC:
var_set_string(res, "You are completely fearless.");
break;
case SPELL_CALC_BONUS:
res_add(RES_FEAR);
break;

So why does this only add a resistance instead of an immunity? Will the descriptions ever accurately match the actuality?

>>145350354
Cogming has the best stealth among the roguelikes.
Also its very hard, some levels you need to go stealth (item storing), on some full assault to get items and mass. When you find that really special prototype item, means nothing since its probably gonna be destroyed. You are constantly living on the edge... respect.

A very tactical roguelike. Yes all roguelikes are tactical but this one...

The price is going deep into the jew spheres, but the shear ASCII art is majestic. If only all roguelikes looked like that more people would play them. The dev really put some love into it. I trully hope it gets cheaper.

Did you notice you can switch between ASCII and tiles with on hotkey... never seen that on any roguelike.

dedgen is ded

>>145369561
death is a common thing in here.

How do you play stabbers?
I managed to get a single rune as a vampire enchanter of dithmenos, but I died afterwards in spider.
Shoals itself was bullshit hard because I couldn't confuse most of the enemies with MR, which are most of the dangerous merfolks. I had max stealth pips even while satiated so I at least got to pick my battles, and I started training necromancy since I had a pain rapier and the necromonicon. But none of it mattered because I simply couldn't kill dudes and splatted hard.

How do you go from relying on hexes to something else? How do you transition to something else? What even is the something else?

>>145359176
I know what you mean.

>>145367892
What the fuck is this shit?

>>145370651
A shill

How come they felt compelled to nerf the shittiest necromancer spell animate skeleton?

>>145371695

Animate Skellington was a beautiful spell you shut your whore mouth. Free permanent meat shields for almost zero XP investment.

>>145371882
So is summon butterflies. The difference is that skeletons die to literally anything

>DCSS Trunk
Potions, scrolls and books can all now be used from the floor, instead of needing to be picked up first.

HOW? I would like to see a dev drink a potion without picking it up...

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>>145372060
Please tell me you are joking

>>145372060
are crawl devs literally special needs?

>>145372060
You pick it up and use it in the same action I guess, rather than picking it up, putting it in your bag, then taking it back out of your bag to use it. Not a bad change really.

>>145372060
this is a good quality of life thing taken from Angband

>>145372060
so, an interaction that is done in literally every roguelike in existence.

Wow. Shocking.

>>145372320
>You pick it up
hmm
>...instead of needing to be picked up first.
hmm

>>145372461
And ADoM and IVAN and nethack, and brogue and CoQ and DDA and the list goes on, really.

>>145372531
No, anon. Two different actions:
>pick it up and store in your inventory
>pick it up and drink/read it directly

>>145372060
Jesus fucking christ, finally.
>>145372531
Legitimately retarded.

>>145372625
the real question is really why it took dcss so long

but yeah I said "taken from Angband" because I'm pretty sure it was added as a direct result of some crawldev folks binged on poschengband

>>145372060
You knee down and slurp it,
or
one of the devs mom sits down on a potion, stands on her head just so you can slurp that potion out of her pussy.
Yes i see it now. Very legit.

>>145372639
>...instead of needing to be picked up first.

>>145372920
You're retarded.

>>145372993
no, he's shitposting. You're even more retarded for responding.

>>145372993
Read this again.
>...instead of needing to be picked up first.

Im not the one who wrote the changes...
dcss devs are well knows tools.

At best they could have rephrase it. But what is writen shall be done.

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Drunk/ESL shitposter please go back where you came from.

>>145373857
that awoo is being bullied
I'm calling the weeb police

Why do you DCSS kiddies shit up this thread? Go play Spelunky.

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>>145373857
>>145373908

>>145374114
Crawl's always been the most popular game in the thread

The earliest threads were mostly about crawl too, and the general's cousins at /tg/ were about crawl

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Truly the best meme

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How did he manage to triple move me?

Don't tell me autopickup on arrows takes a turn. That's really dumb, if so, since it happens even if monsters are around.

>>145375523
>using autopickup

see
>>145375135

>>145375523
Poschengband energy randomization is a little much sometimes, but I don't see how he would triple move you unless he was hasted somehow (he's +10 speed).
What was your last action and what were his actions?
>Don't tell me autopickup on arrows takes a turn.
It doesn't.

>>145375841
I stepped towards him to get him back in LOF, then

>You have 58 Arrows (1d4) (+8,+8) {99% off, @f1 =g} (t).
>Fafner the Dragon breathes fire. The Arrows burn up! You stand your ground!
>Fafner the Dragon breathes gas. You stand your ground! *** LOW HITPOINT WARNING! *** Press Space to continue.
>Fafner the Dragon breathes gas. You stand your ground! What a noble sacrifice!

I guess maybe the energy order got weird from my ranged attacks?

Does Trollhide armor regen work on Trolls?

>>145376198
Yeah, that's probably it.
He was storing up extra energy for 3 shots or so, and had more energy on his first turn- then energy randomization handled the rest.

That sucks man, kind of a huge BS death.

>>145376321
Yes.

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>>145376535
Oh, baby.

>>145376359
Ah well. Turning a craft rogue into an archer is kind of neat, though probably not better than a real one. Much better at non-archery skills, though, and you can enchant arrows higher with minor enchant than you can in town.

>>145376707
I found with my lucky archer that I had more than enough device skill to spare.

Other than that the Stealth might be useful? I feel like only Melee/Ranged/Stealth/Devices/Save matter at all.

Nothing beats having a rail-mounted crossbow on your crossbow in Cata:DDA.

>>145375523
did you just take an action that takes more than a normal turn of energy (e.g. Dimension Door)? Was it a true triple move? He gets more than one attack normally.

>>145327787
>the depth of dcss
first person games don't have tab so they're actually deeper than mibe

>>145332481
i think seeker ammo cannot be harmed by acid
still gets rekt by chaos/mana/disint though

>>145375523
were there any screamer mushrooms around at the beginning of the fight? they don't just wake things up, they haste everything in LOS

>>145375364
is it the "fighting a pack of D:2 halberd gnolls instead of walking to the <" meme

S P E E D 1 0
S
P
E
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1
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ha

>>145376707
Yes but a 1d4+12 arrow is only about as good as a 6d4+0 seeker arrow, which real archers can craft in spades. then you start considering egos and enchant on THOSE and the real archer ends up way better off

>>145378552
I didn't fight them, I just killed the one that didn't have a halberd

>>145379118
>i didn't fight them i just killed one
you were still in range of the halberd gnoll behind him, and you're still at less than half hp

evoke your feet more often

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I had just re-implemented the combat.

Today and tomorrow I am going to be coding character creation screen.

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Oh man, I never really looked at the starting professions in DDA, these are awesome.
The bionic ones in particular are pretty neat.

>>145379236
I didn't die

Anon please

>>145380307
you didn't die this time

halberd gnolls can roll up to 22 damage in one turn

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>>145380064
yo anon I'm happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish but you should know that DDA gets really boring after very little

>>145380961
Fortunately I've never lived long enough for that to happen.
I made it to mut-rouletting once.

>>145381219
then go with xom my child
may you never get good at dda

>>145379712
Good, good.

>>145369860
Spiders and merfolk do not see invisibility. Stabbers need invis.
Other ways of killing things are melee, spells, god abilities (not Dith's abilities, although he improves your melee/spells), evokables.

Pain rapier would've been nice.
Any good melee weapon would've been good.

As an example of skill training, once you reach Lair you might have around 13 hexes. At that point you can train dodging and a weapon skill. At the end of Lair you might have 10 dodging, 15 weapon skill, 8 fighting, making you a decent fighter. From that point on you use a combination of hexes and melee depending on the enemy.

You can train spells instead of melee the same way, but I don't recommend spells because currently melee is better than spells in dcss after early game.

I just found a stack of 3 acquirement scrolls and then another single one on the same floor

>>145382594
That happened to someone else too. You playing trunk? I think their acq spawning function is a bit screwy.

>>145382594
my condolences

>looting a house
>near noises from below
>locate the down stairs
>oh sweet, a survivor den, gonna be food and ammo here
>stopped by a white capital letter V
>albino penguin
I've half a mind to just NOPE the fuck out of here and maybe burn the house down, but then I'd never know.
I have to see what else is down here.

>>145382594
a +0 hat, a +0 animal skin, AND a wand of random effects?
congrats anon, that's really lucky

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Spawning Pits is not Doom Quest 2, go figure. Could have been worse I guess.

>>145382594
AAA
A
AAA

>>145382594
Enjoy your animal skins.

>>145382796
Yeah, trunk.

>>145382964
Don't forget the +3 handaxe of venom.

>>145383190
>could have been worse
nothing is worse than Qs teleporting and summoning Qs
seriously fuck qs
fuck them

>>145382796
Time for trunk!

I found skullcrusher on D:5 as a troll, have invested 5 points in UC. Should I switch?

>>145372030
Animate skeleton was a literal 2-3 rune spell, since every branch had something that was absolutely insane to reanimate (barring spider). You got hydras in swamp, literally everything in snake, and harpies/sea snakes/snapping turtles in shoals. They would tear anything apart, and you had a get out of jail free card just by walking backwards through them. Shit was dumb.

>>145383439
Yes, but keep using your claws while training M&F up until lair

>tfw no PCB SSH server, so you can watch fellow anons and send them mail

>>145365672
i do

Yeah I played a bit of trunk and I haven't found any acquirement scrolls
I think you're just lucky

>>145383736
actually there's roguenexus but who the frick would play PCB

>>145383736
roguenex.us hosts pcb

it's even in the OP

>>145383693
Well I have 9 M&F now and everything fucking dies

I also found a lightning rod and two benemut potions