Dota 2 General - /d2g/

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>Dog form

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>rooting for non-chink riceniggers

Reminder that asians have autism as a race, with only a few very rare exceptions (e.g: IceIceIce)

Reminder that only a strong, based centralized fascist government can thoroughly root out the autism inherent in every Asian.

Even as a retarded gulagite you should be familar with 'Nature vs Nurture'. They have autism by nature, and only a strong, caring government can nurture it out of them.

This is why the only good Asians are Chinese.

This is why ALL gooks, SEAMonkies, and worst of all, westernized asians (EternalAutism, Aui and Moonmememeander) are the worst countries and players in all of Dota2

>SERVERS STILL SHIT
LOL

>LGD is bad and doesn't deserve an invite
-you

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nth for 'go 'za

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>tfw you have a quarry to settle

>>145125530
In all likelihood they'll stick together until TI6 qualifiers. If they don't succeed there they'll disband 100%.

MVP is losing on purpose so that there will be 3 games

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>>145125660
>tfw you settle your quarry

MMY HOLY SHIT

they should revive and move players to MVP hotsix

then call them MVP dogshit

rolll right off the tounge

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No one cared who I was till I put on the mask

>>145125596
Don't you think that's kinda racist dude?

>Vanguard void

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>>145125590
Awoo!

>"THEY DONT NEOUWER"

and britcucks complain about americans slaughtering the language

>vanguard void
damageless void lamo gooks

>picking viper the lane winner game loser hero

>guess the caster
timing jow8 um errr uhh yep okay finish the job timing jow8 um errr uhh yep okay finish the job timing jow8 um errr uhh yep okay finish the job timing jow8 um errr uhh yep okay finish the job timing jow8 um errr uhh yep okay finish the job

>>145125757
If you pull off the active would you die?

>>145125596
Then why does every team left have at least 1 Asian player?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1qsgtJbzt2E

Why can't anyone link this to casters so they'd pronounce Xiao8 properly

Rip russia

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>15m blink lion

>no eg and secret at ti
>chinks win

do you really want this d2g

Reminder that being homeless increases your MMR.

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*brrrrrrr*

Newbee or OG?

>>145125820
It would be extremely painful

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BREED

what the fuck just happened

~AWOOOO~

MVP got dumpsterd lmao

>it's an MVP throws the game episode

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>aggressif
AWOOOOO

MMY crushed that fight holy shit

WHY DOES ANYONE

THINK


THAT THIS BATTLEVIEW IS NECESSARY

IT LITERALLY OBSCURES THE SIDES

Ah, the good old battleview
Thanks Nahaz!

Why is Lycan enabled in CM?

>throw all your shit at a viper
>WOLF comes and kills your whole team
ROFL

WOLVES NEED NO ______

>That LoL tier UI has still not been removed
Please, only give the majors to Russia or NA now. I don't want this shit again.

>>145126026
>my sides!!!

nice combo koreans

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>Kimchi in flames

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>gooks

nice lich pick tho
XDXDXD

>4 people against Lycan
>Lycan kills two

?

LMAO NICE NECRO MICRO

LMFAO

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>>145126097

I want to fucking vomit looking at this.

LGD is really aggressif

FEBBY NO

>lich

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GOOKS

ARE

ON

SUICIDE

WATCH

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Febby back to the streets after this lmao

>gookshitters literally killing themselves

my sides

CHINA NUMBA ONE

>..NOT MY BEST WORK!

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>doesn't stop pure damage
I haven't even played this game in fucking like a year

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>pos 1 void with vanguard

RIP gooks.

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>liru project came out before pitlord
NEVER
EVER

>doesn't stop pure dmg
IT'S
NOT
PURE
ANYMORE
REEEEEEEEEEEE

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A W O O
W
O
O

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>>145125941
Add me on Steam!!!!!!!!!

http://steamcommunity.com/id/TinkeringTurian/

>VANGUARD VOID
fucking gooks rofl

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stop bullying MVP!

>>145126305
what is liru project

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Its the ruskies

>>145126353
epic histrionic furry desperate for attention
here's a (you) keep the change bud

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>>145126353
already did cutie

>>145126442
The thing I fapped to last night

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why no best dota girl?

>>145126404
dumb cummieko poster...

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>>145126342
Going to fap to the momiji!

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What up losers?

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>>145126490

what a boring tournament, devoid of any interesting teams in the top 4

>OG, Liquid, LGD, Newbee

zzzz where are the underdogs

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AGGRESSIF BKB

IS THIS THE MOST BESTEST CARRY

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HEY GUYS I'M PLAYING DAMAGELESS VOID

WHAT ITEM SHOULD I BUILD
I
KNOW

I'LL
BUILD
A
VANGUARD

>>145126442
5 year developed game from seismic
a fucking anon died from cancer during its development
never ever meme is dead now

mp knows you can't get abyssal on void right?

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>some people really think gooks are tier 1

>>145126490
Now that I think about it there are no females casting or on the panel on this major
Based Valve

>>145126697
Winter?

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You're 10 minutes into laning and chill and she gives you this look. What do you do?

>>145126636
slaughetering each others in the qualifiers since valve spend slots on teams like EG Secret Navi Alliance

>>145126636
>Newbee the Qualifier team.
>LGD the team that didn't deserve invite
>not underdags
?

Both NB and LGD were either mediocre or bad pr

>>145126660
is that the webm meme with the cat girl sex simulator thing

>>145126686
You've been able to for a while. He doesn't get the bash, but he gets the active.

>>145126748
feed

>>145126553
SHE'S PURE, LEAVE HER ALONE

Fap to this instead :^) http://exhentai.org/s/f20c9a4b64/901434-1

MVP should just gg and try again.
It's just a waste of time now

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>>145126748

>>145126686
I thought they fixed that already? Item-sourced bash isn't supposed to work for the bash heroes but they still may want abyssal for the active.

>>145126748
Laugh because her ult is badVacuum, and proceed to win

>MVP gets exposed
>gook posters stop posting completely

based xiao8 saving us once again

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>>145126729
>I'm a boi silly

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>>145126748
B R E E D
R
E
E
D

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NEW ITEM:

Bloodletter

parts:

Echo Sabre (2650)
Sange (2050)
Orb of Venom (275)

total cost: 4975 gold

passive: Causes melee attacks to attack twice in quick succession. The double attacks apply a 1 second 100% movement and attack speed slow on each strike, as well as applying fleshwound for 5 seconds. Targets affected by fleshwound are slowed by 26%, take 1% of their max health as damage per second, and leave a trail of blood which can be followed.

+30 Strength
+10 Intelligence
+75% Mana regeneration
+25 Attack Damage
+10 Attack speed

passive cooldown: 5 seconds

DAMAGELESS VOID

LMAO NICE DAMAGELESS VOID

>>145126781
What a time to be alive.

>hit THE WOMBO COMBO
>still lose teamfight horrible
lmao gooks

damageless void is going to build a rapier

>>145126774
wolf girl
and yes

>>145126850
>boi
>feminine penis
choose one

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>perfect ravage and storm
>qo on the opposite of his team
>dies instantly

>MVP perfectly land all of their ultimates
>Still fucking lose the fight

What a disaster.

>6 seconds of stun
>1 kill
epic memes

>>145126904
>buffing echo saber
fuk off

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>>145126781
Woah...

Ravage chrono for 1 (one) underfarmed slardar
nice damage kpop

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>>145126798
I-It's kinda lewd to fap to the same doujin another anon is fapping to..

>>145126904

too strong, needs at least a 600g -1000g recipe

this is the legit worst lich/void execution that I've ever seen, lich is ulting before chrono, and void is taking too long to put down a fucking chrono.

this shit is like 3k spastics.

>Lycan is balanced

Damn, did LGD just fake a Rosh and smoke top instead?

Cool double play if that was their intention.

>>145127012
>stuns === kills
STUNFAGS TRIGGERED

>Ravage, Chain Frost, Static Storm and Chronosphere for a single Slardar kill

>>145126781
where do I get this?

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>>145127040
I don't fap while I'm watching eSports

I'm watching Astralis vs CLG, though

>>145126781
lmao nice endurance short round

These chronospheres do nothing

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>>145127148
I'm gonna fap between the MVP games I think..

This tournament was literally 4 good teams and rest of the invited teams were utter trash lol

>people still fell for vanguard radiance void
Doturds?

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HOW TO FIX SNIPER IN 6.88:


>Assassinate no longer indicates to enemies for the first 2 seconds of cast point that they're being aimed at
>Assassinate can now be channeled up to 8 additional seconds after the 2 initial seconds, during which time it gains +20% damage and +40% projectile speed per second and unlimited range
>If released after a full 10 seconds, deals 832/1261/1690 damage and travels at 10500 projectile speed
>Can be released immediately when channeling starts (after 2 seconds cast point) for minimum 320/485/650 damage and 2500 speed

lmao this no damage lineup

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>still no sheever and jess JOI/CEI videos

It is literally impossible to do less damage than this void with that much farm.

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>damageless void going the worst possible build as your hardcarry vs the balanced doggyman

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>>145126107
>divorce

>>145127341
>being able to kill supports for free at any time of the game

LMFAO MVP

Is LGD the sleeper team this tournament?

>>145127356
It's funny though, almost every team that lost in the lower bracket had no damage drafts.

ex. NaVi, Fnatic, VGR

LGD
LGD
LGD

I-Is China back?

>void is the hard counter to lycan

-pro players

???

Is xiao8 a god?

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WEV LAD
>MVP IS GOOD

THAT'S A GOOD JOKE

THE DOG IS MAD

LGD fucking stomping everyone.
Goddamn. And everyone was doubting them.

>teams not 3v1 Maybe mid lane
this is literally what they should do

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>>145125596
Called it.

how much damage is lycan doing in these team fights?

haha we'll never know! BATTLEVIEW!!!!123!@$!!

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get fucked korea

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>>145124184
>>145124184


I TOLD YOU

>>145127506
2nd best captain after ppd

>>145127492
LGD is top3 in most tournament

Vanguard Radiance Void is only for pubs where fights drag on and on. Can't believe pros actually fall for it.

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COME ON MVP
YOU CAN DO THIS!

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>mvp will lose so quickly i'll get to hear based ppd analysis

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>>145127514
Say what you want, MVP has a spot secured for TI6.

So this basically solidified that China is irrelevant without Xiao 8 right

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Dotards, explain me the void vanguard radiance build.

MMY THE GOD

Seriously this kid is a fucking literal walking God amongst men

>that early deep ward catching out jungling TA
>that aggression
>getting blink before tide

Here's the power ranking of LGD:

>Agressif/MMY
>Maybe
>September (playing Phoenix)

**POWER GAP**

>xiao8
>....
>...

>September

>>145127671
KOREAN DOTO

>>145127671

Waga pub build that for some reason people think would work in a proper game

PLEASE MVP PLEASE I NEED THIS

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>RUSSIANS JUST GOT RANGEBANNED FROM 4CHAN

CANNOT

MAKE

THIS

SHIT

UP

LADS

>>145127594
@WOAW

I had no idea they did no damage until you said that.

>>145127663
all chinks need is to tell rotk to fuck off

>>145127663
>What is Newbee

>>145127504
Axe is a way better counter
Lone Druid too

>>145127712
>this kid

He's a grown ass man m8

>>145127537
They did lose to the rapist

>>145127671
>soe will never sit on your face

RIP

>>145127754

Wait what lel. Source?

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>mvp flaunt drafting literally insulting gooks with a free win
>win game 2 and 3 for the smart people who saw the mocking just alone with game 1 draft

screenshot this chinks

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>>145126186

>LGD curbstomps MVP
>MVP curbstomped Liquid

>Euroshits still think Liquid has a chance

Uh... 'turds??

>>145127820
4chan twitter \ /int/

>>145127712
>Agressif/MMY
>not Maybe/MMY
Agressif has been fucking up quite a bit, Maybe hasn't
add another gap for September Earth Spirit, holy shit so bad

>>145127319
This face looks cute as a cartoon but would actually be really quality horror movie anatomy if rendered realistically - all those horizontal slits where eyes should be.

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>>145127639
I have a secure slot on me for awoo posters!

>>145127827
gee lycan, how come your mom lets you have two wolves?

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You are drafting against this man.

What the fuck do you do?

this bar at the bottom of battleview is triggering me
I get the hp bars but what is that icon in the center supposed to be and what is determining where it moves?
it looks like it's completely independent of the overall hp of both teams and it's just moving left and right slightly randomly

>>145127885
where's your NA team?

>>145127820
>>>/pol/
>>>/int/
>spoonfeed me

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>>145127712
>missing easy to land impales

>>145127341
How to fix Sniper

>Headshot
Sniper gains one "Sniping" stack whenever he attacks an enemy that does not have the Sniper in his screen (the enemy will have vision of the sniper, but as long as their screen does not have Sniper, this activates). At 3 stack his next attack guarantees a 200/250/300/350% damage crit.

>Sharpnel
Replaced with Deadshot - Sniper channels up to 1 second then fire a piercing shot in the aimed direction. Same range as his auto attack. Deal his regular attack damage and 50/80/110/140 additional physical damage.

>Take aim
Same as before, but how gives him an active: Put a jarate on the ground. Enemies stepping on a jarate will break it, slowed by 30% and is revealed for 4 seconds.

>Ultimate
The shot can be blocked by another enemy hero who steps between the Sniper and the target.

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>russians rangebanned from 4chan
the gulag is truly dead

Ok guys I watched a lot of dota since a few years ago, it seems nowadays that offlaners seem to be allowed crazy amounts of farm. Was there any change that caused this?

I mean I remember ti3/ti4 days you would be lucky if you didn't die 2-3 times in laning and even tranquil boots + half an item would be fine enough. Slardar would never be picked because he would never ever see a blink.

>>145127827
What the fuck they did that in the show already?

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>>145125778
>>145126019
>>145126342
>>145126553
>>145127148
>>145127639
>>145127950

>Wolf-eared Momiji

Fuck off secondary trash.

>>145127754
They'll remove it.
Turkroaches got rangebanned too but they removed it.

>>145128030
whole team HP, which is segmented into each hero, which is FUCKING USELESS SINCE THE HERO ICONS AT THE TOP ALREADY HAVE HP BARS

>>145128030
The linear gold graphs for a single player trigger me more.

>>145127504

It countered him pretty hard even while he was thousands and thousands ahead. But, he had aegis which throttled it out. MVP just jumped the gun taking bad fights and losing rosh multiple times. Ta just didn't seem to work well in that lineup, maybe an invoker? Quas/Wex could deal with slardars low mana, give extra pick potential so it isn't just dependent on tiderhunter blink ravage, wall to keep slardar from getting back out after blink, deafening to cc, ghost walk for information, alacrity for the void... Low general cd spells so he can always go.

Just a thought?

>>145128142
They showed the fight, not what goes on inside the tower. They're teasing us with that until episode 10.

>>145128170
>Turkroaches got rangebanned too but they removed it.
when the fuck did that happen

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>>145127671
>you'll never make love to Soe in the missionary position

fugg

>>145128142
it was really fucking half assed

>>145128012
tusk techies

>>145127671
I wish soe would sit on my face

>>145128060
>attack x times for guaranteed x
HONTRASH OUT
OUT
OUT
OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>145128127

Where the creeps meet is now back toward the offlaner's tower, people realised that offlane pulls are possible and really good, and the introduction of iron talon.

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Missed the post last time. Post your winningest heroes d2g

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>you walk into a bar doubting gooks when suddenly a squad of alpha gooks approaches you, bitchslaps you and wins the series

wat do?

>>145128127
No direct buff, but you are given more options these days. Additional camps, iron talon, everybody is slightly tankier (+20 health) so it's slightly harder to kill someone early on, items that benefit tanky heroes like Slardar (Armlet) have been buffed. They do slightly better early on, and has more value later on in the game.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10452908

http://www.strawpoll.me/10452908

>>145127950
>nipple
DELETE THIS

>>145128247
>>145128142
>MFW ARTHUR DAYNE WAS A DUAL WIELDING VIDEO GAME CHARACTER IN THE SHOW

MY
FUCKING
SIDES

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DOTURDS??

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>>145127885
>NA tard still mad as fuck

le honeypot amiright?

>>145128187
I get that, but what is the icon in between the two bars and what is controlling the overall location of the bars and middle icon within the black bar at the bottom? it's just randomly moving left and right

I thought it was staying centered overall at first, so if radiant loses hp it moves left instantly, but it's clearly not doing that

it's like it's just randomly moving left and right, look at it next time game

BLACK KNOWS THE LAW OF THE HONEYPOT

Guys, Guys.

What patch is this?
The strength carry one?

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>the game is in a perfect place right now
-/Black/

Dotards?

>>145128460
probably some stupid ass momentum shit

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>>145128435
The 3D world truly is unforgiving.

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>tfw was never a metapicker but now my favorite heroes are becoming meta

>>145128460
it's a vit booster I think
yeah I did see that
the only thing I like is the mana bars underneath the health

>Dota is in a perfect place

Just another shitty attempt at Valve shilling the game's health.

>China rises just in time to win another even numbered TI
This script is getting predictable

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How will /d2g/ be without Russians?

I wish Valve also range banned them from EU servers

>>145128419
How is it possible that every asian has the same face

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>>145128532
it's finally dead for good anon

>>145128532
>le record hero picked rate meme
literally red dit

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>>145128412
I can't even fucking bother with the show anymore. Pure garbage.

>>145128615
esports are on

no one cares

>>145128621
it's called racial homogeneity
or inbreeding same diff

>>145128532
dota is definitely in a good spot right now. the only small thing i would change is region locking for ranked only.

NA BTFO

>>145128532
>-/Black/

Literally who

>>145128693
it's only good for /got/ posting & leddit eating up the stupid shit they cook

>>145128621
khan

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>>145128142
>>145127827
no...nawitenz

>>145128589
>>145128672
There is literally nothing icefrog could do that would ever please you

>>145128327
>>145128349
thanks guys, nowadays it feels like offlane farm is almost guaranteed so it seemed a bit unusual to me

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COME ON LADS
GIVE YOUR PASSION AND ENERGY TO MVP

>>145128860
>>145127827
muh sister

lyanna mormont was p cute tho

I'll admit I had serious doubts about xiao8's mechanical skill but his Slardar is too fucking legit.

>>145128693
just watch preston jacobs wrap-ups of each episode they're pretty hilarious and tear the show apart for its incontinuity and retarded plot decisions/character assassinations

>>145128934
I'm gonna need the names of these cuties first

>>145128894

The mentality of offlaning has also changed. It used to be that as long as you got levels it was enough. Nowadays there is a lot more expectation for offlaners to scale and remain relevant as the game goes on. The concept of a suicide lane no longer exists.

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>>145128898

>>145128342

Nothing since no one cares about honeypot LANs

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>>145128934
kill yourself gookshitter

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>tfw finally awake to see an entire BO3.

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>>145128990
His Slardar isn't that much more legit than his other heroes. He has 'mediocre' mech. skill for pro player, but just like Mikasa he has pretty good 'game sense' (ie. how he was waiting for the Void blink)

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>LGD are adapting

my god

>>145129183
>that pic
Remember when dota was fun

>crowd STILL cheers when Invoker is picked

I don't get it it Pinoys

>>145129278
>RAT
>Fun

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MVP are not going to win. Just stop. Xioa8 is too powerful

PICK TERRORBLADE YOU GODDAMN CHINKS

>>145129278
back with based eul?

>>145129310
>a good invoker picks invoker
versus
>arteezy picking invoker

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>>145129352
fuck off soshiroach bitch

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>>145129278
>ti4
>fun

>>145129310
>A country of toxic pub players get excited when the most popular mid hero get picked

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>>145129278
yeah

ANTI MAGE

REMOVE MAGIC

>EG VS SECRET

>IN THE AIRPORT

based pinoys

ANDY MAGE the badTB

AYYYYYY

MAGINA

>EG vs Secret in Airport
PINOYS WITH THE BANTZ

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>>145129440
Know your place in DotA kshitter. Koreans suck at this game and are going to lose after this match.

>>145129352
who is this adorable girl

GIVE ME ALL THY FARM
I HAVE A _______

HE CALLED IT9

POST MORE DOTA RELATED ASIANS

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ahn-yong-haseyo, Dotu-cucks?

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ONE OF THE BEST ANTI MAGE PLAYERS OF AL TIME

MAGIC SUCKS

>>145129623
CABAL TO SUNDER

>>145129310
It'd be like picking Pudge in Russia

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>>145129612
speaking like a true passionless soshiter

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>>145129626
I called it before Black but my post CD was still running

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>>145129664

NIGHT VS DAY
ORANGES VS BANANAS
ANITMAGE VS INVOKER

based aggressif, our chink guy

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>>145128656
>Witnessing the rise of Dota and the fall of League in the same time.

Didn't think it was possible.

TURN OFF THE FUCKING MUSIC

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Nice

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Buy these on every hero. They're good in every situation.

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>It's a Magina farms all game episode

Ugh...

>>145129487
>>145129310

>being this triggered by people having fun

I think MVP only needs to secure farm for Spec and they win desu.

Absolutely no way LGD can do anything against them

>>145129874
Wanna farm with me cutie? :3

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MVP
FIGHTING!

>>145129814
honestly overwatch is siphoning off LeL viewers more than anything

And for good reason. Sure HotS was a bit of a dud, but this new title Blizzard has put out has the same sort of flair captured in Hearthstone that will attract players, hardcore and casual alike, for many years to come.

gg
First Blood ALWAYS wins the game
Explain that dotards?

>>145129914
andy comes online faster though, if he goes early fightin spec gonna get fucked.

How do you find the strength to keep playing when a teammate feeds in a very winnable mid?

I was doing so well lately, raising mmr, actually seeing improvement in my gameplay, just to be ruined by one person.

post rarest andy mages

>>145129858
>buying that shit on antimage

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>>145130063
He comes faster online but if he steps to teamf

>>145127341

Q - Shrapnel - now has a 15/20/25/30 attack speed slow alongside the 15%/20%/25%/30% move speed slow

W - Headshot - Sniper increases his accuracy, gaining permanent truestrike and giving him a chance to deal extra damage and briefly stop the movements of his enemies.

E - Take Aim - Extends the attack range of Sniper's rifle by 100/200/300/400. Take Aim can be activated to double the attack range bonus as long as sniper does not move in any form. While activated, sniper is not revealed in the fog when he autoattacks.

R - Spotter - Sniper passively gains normal vision against all enemy units within 600/800/1000 range. does not work against heroes who are invisible.

>rooting for mvp
>see kshitters
>start rooting for lgd instead

Fucking KSHITS

>>145130090
Addendum: It's good on almost every hero.

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>>145130079

>>145128879
Revert to 6.79

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OUR GUYS DID IT

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I'm cheering for MVP but they have shitty disables against an AM and QoP

This all comes down to whether they can get Spec to snowball with haunt kills

>>145130192
>every hero
>every situation
>JK NOT REALLY XD

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MVP
FIGHTING!
YOU CAN DO IT!

>>145130248
One andymage, five meepos, and a pudge

getting real tired of this QW Invoker meme

>>145130372
yea look at those shitty disables LOL
fucking idiot

>>145130063
I don't see it. He'll need early BKB if he wants to ever fight (like 2nd or at latest, 3rd item) after Battlefury) and early BKB is such gamble because if you don't win with it it will go rusty and then you have the shit BKB against THAT MVP lineup which is quite murderous if you don't have BKB

if they don't win the game when AM has his fresh BKB they flatout lose but it already looks like shit for them

Disruptor wont even do that much, will he? ES can initiate from afar, DS can wait with blink dagger, Invoker can initiate from afar, Spec isn't even in teamfight, AA shoots shit from the fountain

So that is TWO heroes that are mostly useless (AM, Raptor) and Enchantress isn't doing shit so that is three heroes in the shitter

Yeah I think MVP fucking takes this (and now they're moving far better in the map than Raptor or EncH)

>>145130372
>they have shitty disables against an AM and QoP
Anta baka? Jitsu ni baka.

https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/40/Dkseer_attack_03.mp3

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>>145130431
I'm not an idiot
YOU'RE the idiot

>>145130518

>MVP takes it

I'm actually completely on the opposite fence. I think it's an outdraft in LGD's favor. Andymage farms too fast and none of MVP's heroes can counter his farm.

And if the game goes long then LGD naturally win because their heroes are better in general.

>>145130569
haha le ebin reaction face XD!

>>145130518
>I don't see it
you don't see an AM outfarming a spec? also why would he need a bkb when a manta is enough to get the job done.

Doesn't AM always beat Spectre due to coming online faster?

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>>145130652
Thanks :3

>trying to gank antimage

LGD already won, only 1-2k mmr gulags won't realize this

>>145130734
am is a dogshit hero

>>145130734

if both heroes are free farming than yea, Antimage can shut down Spectre but the opposite doesn't usually happen

>>145130786
nice 2k shitter argument.

>>145130734
Well Spec is supposed to be THE hard carry

QO
O

>maybe

>>145130734
Think over that logic a few times. If our statement was true then you would never pick a carry at all because you'd just take whichever hero came online the earliest.

>missed the Queen ult and lost the whole fight

JUST

Q O
O

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Q
O

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QO

idk why ppl pick qop its like you want to lose or something

>>145130734
Normal yes. But it normally a pressured spectre vs free farm AM. If both free farming, middle game AM needs to do a lot of heavy lifting split pushing/farming before spec comes online.

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QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA
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QODOTA
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QODOTA
>QODOTA
QODOTA

>>145130645
I maintain that MVP has better lategame lineup since they can have better position through the nature of their heroes, none of them need to be in Disruptor's ultimate range, Ench will not do much lategame with this start (nor will she farm much because of AM and Queen farm like mad men).


AM farms fast, sure - yes. But he'd need to fight fast enough to deal with LGD's four man which will start soon (unless LGD manages to choke it, but Enchantress start was very ineffective)

and then it's 4+4 clashes (where MVP is stronger by far) and contribution from their carries (while AM may have faster farm, Spectre can still hurt and get extra GPM from succesful teamfights)

>>145130673
HOw does Manta deal with the monster teamfight of MVP? There's just os much fucking shit. SUre you aint silenced but then the rest of the shit follows