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>[Shuten-Doji gacha until 15.6]
- Limited 5* assassin Shuten-Doji
- Event CEs
- 3* Benkei CE: blocks debuffs (1 time) | gourd drops (+1)
- 4* Kiyo CE: +25% damage against males | debuff success rate +12% | gourd drops (+2)
- 5* Tamamo CE: NP gain +20% | gain 3 crit stars every turn | gourd drops (+3)

>[Xuanzang event starts 15.6]
>another genderbend

>[Oni raid event until 15.6]
- Raid boss Berserker Ibaraki
- 5* assassin Shuten-Doji temporarily added to gacha
- Event CEs help to defeat Ibaraki; Ushi can be purchased from the shop, Kintoki is part of the damage reward pool - both can be dropped from 1-3 BP quests
- 5* Ushi CE: Quick cards +10% | upon death: ally Quick cards +10% | damage vs. Ibaraki 100% (self)
- 5* Kintoki CE: NP charge +30% | battle start: +15 stars (1 time) | Party ATK (includes support) +50%
More information can be found @fgo_english
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160531.php

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes: http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Siegfried, Spartacus, Stheno, Darius, Memeaxe, Kintoki, Nero, Gilgamesh, Saber Lily, and David have lvl. 10 bonds now
- Stay away from cheatAPK, as damage is being tracked

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Translations Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/URc62gex

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info
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>>145089731
Best Saber
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COMEBACK
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Xth for the sun will never set on the British Empire!
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I love you Gilgamesh!
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Xth for best archer
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S M U G
M
U
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Smug redman carry
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How long will Elliot last in the holy grail war?
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Jekyll and Hyde are cute.
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Umu.
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best daughteru
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What kind of conversations would happen if GilKo were to meet Enkidu
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Nobu a CUTE.
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When will Ozy come home?
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Let's talk Jeanne for just a moment. Alter welcome too.
What's your favorite sprite? Are you of the opinion that the long hair looks copypaste levels of awful and prefer to stick with a previous sprite because of it?
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why is Tesla a 5*
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Mashu,you loose slut.
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Xth for Greece has the best lore and waifus

Also, GOOD SNEK
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>>145090036
I use sprite 1 on both Jeannes.
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And the comback comes to an end.
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>>145090036
I'm of the opinion that Jeanne has no worth as a character.
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>>145090036
I keep her with the second sprite. Third have stupid hair.
She should have short hair all along.
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>>145090016
>Ozzyfriend died of old age before he even got a chance to roll his king
Feels bad.
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>>145090098
Why is Jack a 5*?
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Jannu would have blocked these goals.
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why
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>Discord Cup again
There really is no hope for this general.
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>>145090214
because she's a cute girl

Tesla isn't.
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>>145090214
Most famous serial killer in the world ? Still envellopped in mystery such as there are people who still try to solve his identity.
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>>145090320
Sakurai wrote London. Sakurai loves the idea of Tesla as a lightning man (see Gahkthun). He had input and choose to make his favorite servant a 5*.
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>>145090315
Upvoted :)
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>>145090036
I keep my Jannu in her 2nd sprite. I do like cloaks but hers is like Hassan; looks shitty and doesn't look like a piece of fabric, almost hard.
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We're doing so bad that Melvin's being useful.
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>>145090237
Of course we lose from that.
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F
we tried.
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>>145090098
Because it makes Edison roll in his grave.
And that makes everything right.
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We lost because we didn't do ritualistic gacha roll before the match for good luck
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>>145090207
Semiramis anon is also gonna die of old age before she becomes available
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When's /vg/ cup 7 Winter?
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If only we had a team filled with players half as useful as smug redman.
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>>145090663
He's a cuck so no one is losing anything of value
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>>145089927
>literally made for survivability
Best.
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>Using bersekers instead of good servants for soccer
When will the berseker meme end?
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But we did so well during the pre elimination.
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wait
did i arrive in time to watch the game?
the traffic was atrocious
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>>145090237
>Getting upset over a game that has shitty AI with huge amounts of RNG involved

Until boards of 4chins starts fielding real teams I really don't think these kinds of simulation sports games should be taken seriously.
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>we lost to a team whose entire record up to this league consisted entirely of draws
What the fuck happened?
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>>145090790
post his werewolf counterpart
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>>145090113
Snek trio is great.
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>>145090802
>Arts team meme
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>>145090842
>real teams
it would be like watching a national heart attack convention because of all the basement dwellers, fat people and handicapped retards
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Is she wearing pants or are those just thighhighs, I can't tell
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>>145090663
The one guy who wants Arcueid too.
Perhaps he should look into being turned into a vampire.
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>>145090802
>soccer
>retarded opinion
no surprise here
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>>145090925
Who's that?
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>>145090895
Doesn't have a sprite, doesn't have any art.
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>>145090918
It might be entertaining though.
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When are we going to have one of these for a real sport like football or basketball?
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This is managers fault, he should stick to the plan instead of memeing around.

also
>Discordfags
We are worse than leddit and this point, we can't even win because of that.
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>>145090895
I think this is a fan design though
Not sure
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>>145090925
I was gonna say thigh highs, but looking closer they look like pants with thigh windows. If that makes any sense.
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>>145091012
Another genderbent Servant created solely as waifubait, further degrading Fate's overall artistic integrity
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>>145090925
>GO WEST! GO!
What did she mean by this
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>>145091062
>handegg
>real sport
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>>145091062
But this is football.
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>>145091108
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SezoGW_z9w0
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>>145090901
>Buster team
>MINUS SIX POINTS
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>>145090846
No manager
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>>145091108
She's from Journey to the West. Of course she'd want to go west.
Yfw this is a campaign for a surprise western release.
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>>145090925
>Caster
Man, I already have so many Casters.

Also her coloring sucks.
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>>145090846
They got gud. They beat even /ksp/ last week.

We still have some hope of getting a player in the /vg/ team if we win the next game, by the way.
The next match won't be useless.
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>>145091169
Go home Pedro

>>145091216
Nicely memed
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>>145091340
Would you jump servers /fgog/?
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>>145090036
I like it.
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>>145091340
Does this mean we're going to eventually get wukong
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>>145091371
Yeah.
We could wooden spoon
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>>145091290
Did the director die?
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>>145091369
Almost every other female caster is cuter as well, but you will how they will make her an overpower single target caster so that everyone rolls for her no matter what.
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>>145091427
>losing all my Servants
No.
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>>145091497
yes
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>>145091464
You are joining Tripitaka as her first disciple so I guess not.
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>>145091103
Japan has been genderbending that character for a long-ass time.
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>>145091427
All those with E rank luck or newfags would, especially if they use all the old events
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We should sack Mashu, she's been routinely worthless as a goalkeeper.
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>>145091427
If it's like Granblue they might add ENG language instead.
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>>145091742
It's not okay just because other people did it
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Guan Yu when
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>>145091103
>further degrading Fate's overall artistic integrity
Kek
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>>145091841
Yes it is.
Why isn't it?
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>>145091103
>implying Fate had any integrity left to begin with after genderbent king arthur

>>145091789
Can you imagine the sudden additional influx of shitposters? It would be like a tsunami of trash hitting the lake victory of shitposting
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>>145091782
It's because she's level 1
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>still no sign of Ibaraki being a welfare
Come on, DW. Not even you can be so shitty.
Nobody would give seven quartz as the overall reward for killing a servant between the whole community effort seven times.
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>>145090036
I use Jannu Alter's second sprite because the short hair is great on her
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Collab when?
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>>145091947
On the contrary, because the whole community was involved any one person's involvement was pretty much nil. You could not bother with the actual grinding and just grab the quartz quests when they went up, assuming you're awake for it.
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>>145091947
It looks like giant anal beads are falling out of her ass.
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>>145092084
It still meant that the great majority of the community helped to bring her down, giving nothing is bullshit.
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>>145091108
It's a manga. She wants to read it.
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Redmen as Servant when?
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>>145092624
who?
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>>145092624
what a shitty looking sword
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>>145091909
>Can you imagine the sudden additional influx of shitposters? It would be like a tsunami of trash hitting the lake victory of shitposting
So, nothing would change?
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To put this shit event and the community effort in perspective

3 trillion -> 3,5 trillion -> 4 trillion -> 2 trillion -> 2,5 trillion -> 3 trillion -> 10 trillion = 28 trillion HP total
Lets assume 5% was taken off by 1 BP
5% of 28,000,000,000,000 is 1,400,000,000,000
1,4 trillion divided by 300k is 4,666,666 runs of 1 BP
Then lets be really generous and assume 45% of the total HP was taken off by 2BP. 45% of 28 tril is 12,6 trillion or 12,600,000 or 12,6 million runs of 2 BP (which are 25,2 million hours of BP)
And the remaining 50%, 14 trillion, was taken off by 3BP, resulting in 2,333,333 runs of 3 BP or 7,000,000 hours, 7 million hours of BP.

In total, we are looking at 4,666,666 runs of 1 BP, 12,600,000 runs of 2BP and 2,333,333 runs of 3BP, for a total of roughly 19,700,000 runs of the event quests, ignoring the quartz quest for the sake of calculation and also ignoring the continuous battle quests which no doubt rake in millions of runs.
Lets say the forced 1 BP quartz quest was done in total by 500,000 people -> +500,000 runs
And lets assume continuous battle was another 7,000,000 runs
So 27,200,000 runs
And that is assuming every quest was finished
In reality, the number of runs has to be far higher
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>>145092691
Lucius Tiberius
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>>145092745
Go feed your Seiba, Shirou
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>>145092798
>in perspective
I appreciate your effort, but I don't need to be explained to about why this event is utter garbage and DW how doesn't give a single shit about their players.
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>>145092691
Lucius Tiberius, nicknamed the Sword Emperor here. Mythical Roman person defeated by King Arthur in Gaul.
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>>145092691
John Redman
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>>145092938
Wow this post came out retarded, I need to sleep.

Speaking of which, what kind of event do you all think Sanzang's will be?
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>>145092938
You might have understood the event is total trash but now you understand the actual math behind why it is total trash and beyond.
It is the Fantastic 4 in-alternate-universe of mobile games.
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Maybe if you guys stop complaining and just praise the dev for doing a good job they would work harder and make the game even better.
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>>145092938
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>>145092798
So, even when viewing it purely mathematically, DW is shit and whoever decided to advertise Ibaraki should be fired since we won't even be able to play with her after more than 10M runs over the quests?
Seems legit, when will the change of company?
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>>145093190
Fuck off, Mashu.
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>>145093190
To make something "even better" you first need to make something "good" first.

>>145093252
More than 20 million runs
If I calculated 3BP failure rates, I would probably get up to 30 million runs easily
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>people actually think we aren't getting Ibaraki-doujin as a Servant
They deliberately made her a 4* and gave her shit stats.
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>>145092691
Overwanked Sakurai new Fate husbando number 3.
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>>145093190
>just praise the dev for doing a good job

You're asking me to lie, and I am not a liar.
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>>145093190
Here's some praise: the interface is the cleanest and best of any mobage
There, now give me Ibaraki-douji.
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>>145093374
Must be nice to have the superpower of limitless hope
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>>145092624
Might as well link this in case people want to know more.

http://bosel.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-5584.html
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>>145093190
I like Ibaraki a lot, they made a good work with her.
Wait, it doesn't matter, DW will never release her.

There you go, that was my attempt of praise.
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>>145093478
I'll second this, only reason I don't play that game everyone here talks about (granshit phantasy) is because it's interface looks like trash.
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Should I pour all of my off-class EXP into Mashu or my starting 4* (Berserker)?

I never bothered rerolling because I'm not autistic enough.
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>Cute Arturia
Ma heart
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>>145093612
Same here, FGO's UI is what makes it more playable for me. Only other mobage I've played for more than a day was that DQ Monsters Super Light, but I could just play the real DQM if I wanted that.
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>>145093570
-Lucius Tiberius, called the emperor of swords, gathered a massive army with Greek, African, Hispanic, Egyptian, Babylonian and many more countries' kings and commanders.
-He was the greatest commander of the continent who made a great use of giants who handle strange beasts, magus who discovered destructive magecraft of the age of gods, Eastern witchcraft practioners and psychics.
-Was a tactical and strategic genius who was feared by Eastern factions.
-Defeated Bedivere with one punch, also defeated Gawain.
-His weapons was the sword of the emperor Florent, blessed by the god of flowers Flora, it represents the lordship of the entire continent.
-A sister sword of Clarent, it lets out crimson lighting when mana course through it.
-With Hector's arms, neutralizes Arthur's mana burst.
-With an ability called arm of the giant, he weild the strength similar to that of magical beasts.
-Not only a master of swords, he was also well versed in martial arts.
-While Arthur suffered various injuries like broken ribs and rupture of internal organs, he healed his injuries using the leyline of the valley itself.
-At the final battle, Excalibur beats Florent and destruction of the valley leads to his defeat.

Some other guy's summary, not sure about accuracy
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>>145093659
>Berserker
>starting
Do both, Mashu will keep the basaka alive
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>>145093659
Mashu is the best defense after CU so do it.
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>>145093726
Why is Arthur so wanked?
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>>145093726
>Defeated Bedivere with one punch
OK
>also defeated Gawain.
A-At night, right?

>Hector's Arms
Sakurai has fucking done it again.
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>>145092691
Roman guy named Lou. More officially he's Kentei. Kenny to his friends. He's the boss of Gaul. Commands armies of giants, mages and magical beasts. Also has super strength, can even beat Bedivere with a single punch. And he's got Florent, which is a magical sword like Clarent except it looks cooler.
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Remember when Medusa was considered a high tier servant?
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>>145093374
>shit stats
Why would anyone want her then?
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Think Ibaraki wlll be dead before 75 hours?
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>>145093987
she still being a hightier
NP spam every turn is not a meme
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>>145093996
Because only autists give a shit about gameplay in a mobage.
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>>145093987
Like right now?
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>>145094040
No
Closer to 50 hours so 2 days of nothing
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>tfw beat Orleans all the way to the end of America with just a Cu Alter support
Dog stronk
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>>145093659
Hercules? He'll fucking carry you through all story content.
Mashu will carry his weak to everything ass through all story content.

tl;dr - feed them both.
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Why can't I roll anymore?
I have moon and 99-"number" something something message
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>>145093890
If you look at the scenery in the artwork it doesn't really look like it's midday. Gawain most likely was defeated during the 21 hours of the day when he's not supercharged.
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>>145093890
At least Sakurai is consistent

Nasu and Takeuchi: ARTURIA IS TOTALLY KARNA TIER! HERE LOOK AT OUR RETCONS AND GOA IT TOTALLY CONFIRMS IT
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>>145093726
>weild the strength similar to that of magical beasts.
>greatest commander of the continent who made a great use of giants who handle strange beasts, magus who discovered destructive magecraft of the age of gods, >Eastern witchcraft practioners and psychics.
>With Hector's arms, neutralizes Arthur's mana burst
>Not only a master of swords, he was also well versed in martial arts.
>Florent, blessed by the god of flowers Flora, it represents the lordship of the entire continent.
I see Sakurai has finally stopped even trying to find something in the legends to mildly justify the wank.
This is just retarded no matter how you see it.
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>>145093860
>fighting arthur on home soil
>fighting arthur on home soil with excalblurgh

literally retarded famalamilia
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>>145093987
Still is
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>>145094264
What recons?
Saber is still the same as always in terms of skills and NPs. The only thing added was that the true power of Excalibur could only be used when life on Earth was in danger or something like that.
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>>145093987
I can remember 5 seconds ago, so yes
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>>145092624
Who was in the wrong here?
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>>145094087
>>145093987
Just realized
>Medusa
i'm retarded and i should be ashamed

Sumanai
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>>145093987
She can spam NP and has a stun I find helpful.
My most used rider; pair her up with the tengu and literally use NP every turn.

She's also cute, just not as cute as the best older sister rider.
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>>145094430
Lucius

Arthur just stayed in Camelot

Lucius started a World Conquest for shits and giggles
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>>145094310
This guy was stronger than Arthur though

Also the proof for that is the fact that Excalibur can't be used at full power unless facing someone stronger, like Ozzy.

This guy had so much power and bullshit in his corner, that the only way Arthur could get an advantage is by absorbing the prana from the leylines to have super power.
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>>145094275
>>145094512
The Lucius wank is irrelevant because all it's all just build up to wank Arthur in the end

Look at the image where they're fighting, Arthur isn't even remotely engaged in the fight

It's wank by proxy
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>>145094512
>the proof for that is the fact that Excalibur can't be used at full power unless facing someone stronger, like Ozzy.
>This guy was stronger than Arthur though
?
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>>145094275
It's sort of hard to have a guy with a superbeam sword and his autistic friends fight against a bunch of weaklings. He needs to be that strong to be a threat.
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>>145094696
Excalibur has thirteen seals so it can't be used at full power unless they're broken. He could only use Excalibur full power when facing someone stronger than himself, during an honorable battle, and several other conditions. He could use it full power vs Gilgamesh and Ozzy so far since he admitted they were strong.
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So
Tiberius servant when?
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>>145094512
Lucius negated Arthur's prana burst, if course Arthur got hurt. And it doesn't say Excalibur was used at full power. It doesn't need to be completely unsealed to fire laser beams.
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>>145094163
If you mean ten rolls in the fp gacha, check the FAQ
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>>145094847
Probably soon. That scream "advertisement for GO" more than anything.
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>>145094275
Wonder how Artoria would've dealt with this, considering she's physically weaker than Rin without Bursting.
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>>145094670
It doesn't make less stupid.

>>145094701
Not really, he doesn't need all that to be a treat.
He could be simply weaker but have a bigger army, which he had, from all places in the continent even, that much wank is completely unnecessary. Specially considering he wasn't even important at all in what Sakurai was writing.
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>>145094843
Excalibur wasn't at full power against Ozy.
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>>145094843
It wasn't used at full power against Ozzy. Not even half the seals had been undone when he Excaliblasted the pharaoh.
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>>145093987
She never was though. Pretty obvious since Fate/stay night.
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How munch quartz for manjew?
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>>145094979
>>145094986
That's bullshit Arthur wank as well
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Could David hold his own against someone like Emiya with his staff?
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Is Germans the war mongering people?
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>>145094957
Same as Arthur, fucking lose until Excalibur and Avalon cheat combo bails her out.

But seriously why is Sakurai such a bad writer? They claimed Rome was shit because they weren't used to writing for a mobage. What is their excuse for Fragments?
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>>145092798
That's a lot of assumptions.
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>>145095135
They are the ones that started both World War, so yes.
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I'm out of bones. ;(
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>>145095184
All of them generous towards "better than reality"
So this is a low and for DW flattering estimate of how shit the event is
In reality, it is even shittier than this.
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>>145093987
She is depending on her master

Gorgon eyes are broken

>>145095104
EMIYA is a D rank servant, David is closer to a C++~A rank servant. His NPs are broken, his skills aren't bad at all, and he is intelligent.

David during his childhood fought lions and giants to death, don't underestimate him due to his physique.
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>>145095162
Sakurai can't do conceptual fights so she sticks to DBZ Formula of Bigger Sticks

It works for 90% of people so yeah
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>>145094957
>considering she's physically weaker than Rin without Bursting.
What?
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>>145095104
Yes. David was a warrior and fought in multiple wars. He's just more remembered for playing secret chords that pleased the Lord and fucking the brains out of another man's wife after having him assassinated and getting his bitch ass smacked by God for it.
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>>145094957
I would like to think he isn't as wanked in the original universe. Anyway, did she had Avalon at that point? If she did, there is no problem then.

If she didn't, she could always arrange the battle to be on the day and send Gawain. Or at any hour and send both, Gawain and Lancelot to defeat him.
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>>145095162
Whoever made Cu wear blue tights instead of shirtless with body tattoo is a bad concept artist.
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>>145095312
Secondary please
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>>145095104
David's entire story in the Bible is like a well done action movie, the guy was one of the most hard up people ever to exist.

FGO doesn't really do him much service.
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>>145095328
>And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.
>And Saul cast the javelin; for he said, I will smite David even to the wall. And David avoided out of his presence twice.

Lancer Saul when?
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>>145095401
That would be Takeuchi. But then again he also made Proto Cu.

If we had Proto Cu's design with FSN's voice and personality we would have bred the perfect dog.
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>>145095312
Happens during a scene in Ataraxia, IIRC
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>>145094843
I thought EXcalibur only had to break half of its seals to go full power.
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>>145095514
Proto Cu's face is too long for me.
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>>145095312
Without Prana Burst, Saber is as strong as your average teenager girl.
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>mfw reading these arguments based on prototype arthur

is prototype fragments the actual worst written fate series? sounds more retarded than apocrypha.
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>>145095328
>He's just more remembered for playing secret chords that pleased the Lord and fucking the brains out of another man's wife after having him assassinated and getting his bitch ass smacked by God for it.

Pretty sure most people remember him for killing Goliath above everything else.
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>>145095620
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>>145095509
>misses his attack
>LANCER SAUL WHEN GUYS???

sounds like a horrible fucking servant
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>>145095720
It has some neat things I guess

But well Manaka fucking ruins it because its all Easy Modo for her
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>>145095720
Apocrypha is still worse. At worst, Prototype is boring, Apo managed to utterly waste 90% of the promise it had.
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>>145095720
>Worst than apo

Never. Proto is actually fine whille manaka isnt there
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>>145095562
Re-read that sentence you just wrote and think really hard about why it might sound really stupid.
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>>145095834
wouldn't be the first one, considering that if you can't beat Karna you are shit tier to begin with
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>>145095837
Is Manaka handled any better in Labyrinth?
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>>145095834
>Forgetting God was watching out for David and going Ex Machina all the damn time
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>>145095720
Apocrypha is mostly shit for ruining a potentially interesting premise just for some generic shounen shit power-up laden generic love story that rips off of Shirou and Arturia's romance in almost every way possible but does it worse

Also the unnecessary hype of characters like Siegfried and wasted potential of the Black faction in general
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>>145095792
That too, but you'd be astounded how many people don't even realize that that David and King David are the same guy
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>>145095881
It's not stupid, anon. It's like saying that removing half the screws from a bridge is enough for it to break and fall down.
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>needing 13 seals to unleash it's full power

Why? Why does it need to be 12 more than 1? what's the fucking point?

Oh I only need to nuke half the country this time so I'll just dial this shit up to 5.
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>>145095918
She's less of a 'Teheee Psycho' but aside from that I don't know much

Also Raging Lesbians union with Medea in harassing Seibah
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>>145095792
Which is a shame, since most of his adventures really happened after that point.

Its like remembering Heracles for only his boyhood years, and never hearing about his labors.

>>145095834
>>misses his attack

Twice, although it was actually several times. He tried to kill David a lot out of jealousy, and David proved to be a good servant each time by not blaming him.

The guy once went on a spree across the land chasing after David trying to kill him, while David was "You're the chosen of the lord, I respect you, I will not harm you, but stop"

David had a bromance with his son, they were friends.

David quite fumed when he heard that Saul and Johnathan finally died. Saul in his final moments as the invading army was about to reach his castle, ordered a servant to execute him so he would not be tortured. The servant was too weak, so he just did it himself instead, and impaled himself.

Saul was crazy, but he was hard up as well. He was cursed by a spirit of madness for some shit he did I think, or maybe it was just to test David's response.
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What's Jackie like in Apo?Heard she's mostly doing Assassin things,being a daughteru,and spooking Atalanta.
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>>145096105
Because the Knights of the Round were all pussies who demanded Arthur to seal his blade because he was 'Too Scary' for them
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>>145096105
>Why? Why does it need to be 12 more than 1? what's the fucking point?

Each of the knights placed one seal upon the sword

They put seals upon Arthur because he was born like hundreds of times stronger than everyone, and his power terrified everything. Also because a holy sword could not be used carelessly or else it would lose its grace.
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>>145096078
No, it's more like saying a car can travel at it's maximum velocity if it's moving at half speed.
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>>145096165
she ruins flatlanta
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>>145096105
So that the rest of the Round Table had insurance that Arthur didn't fucking accidentally wipe the British Isles off the map.
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>>145096165
That's pretty much it.Though her interaction with Reika is also one of the better things in Apoc.

Reika as whole is a pretty good character, I feel. For Apoc at least.
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>>145096152
Emiya cannot catch a break
Archer bullying is the best
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>>145096278
Because they aren't truly "seals." They're conditions. If he meets half of the conditions, full power is unlocked.

Or at least that's how I thought it worked.
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Who remembers Jason?
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>>145096387
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>>145096014
>wasted potential of the Black faction
Vlad is the only good thing about the Black camp.
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>>145096453
Clearly muscles are just visual flavor for magic constructs
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>>145096435
every fan of friday the 13th
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>>145096454
Hey now. There's also horsedick.
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>>145096152
They should retool Martha's animation. But that is never going to happen.
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>>145096560
Why wouldn't to be?
All Servants have that, a magical flair fitting of them.
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Kinda curious,is GoB's shooting range shit by Archer standards?

Cause Gil seems to prefer closer range stuff instead of sniping.Unless it's a PRIDE thing.
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>>145096251
>>145096276
>>145096292
>This much disgusting wank
I'm going to vomit at this fucking mary sue garbage
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>>145095076
>this guy is stronger than Arthur and I hate it
>he's not stronger than Arthur
>I hate that as well
/v/ pls
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>>145096681
Do you even know what a mary sue is?
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>>145096678
He has weapons that can probably hit from a long distance, but he's never caring so much or trying so hard that he bothers to snipe people.
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>>145096467
Who?
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So apparently we will be getting an Extella trailer from XSEED once E3 starts.
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>>145096435
I am still pissed how Nasu made him shitty person to justify Medea being a dindu. So yeah I remember.
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>>145093726
>defeated Gawain
>defeated based spearbuddy Bedwyr
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>>145096681
Past Nasu was extremely chuuni, even more so than present Nasu.
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>>145096804
>More hakunoshit
yawn
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>>145095795
What is going on here?
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>>145096804
When is that?
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>>145096823
He was kind of an ass.It's not exactly wrong.

Now if it was Theseus and Ariadne instead,then it'd be annoying.
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>>145096804
Wait, Extella in the E3?
I never thought Fate would have something in there at all.
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>>145093987
Her Eyes are darn good. Petrifies if below A-Rank Magic Res, debuffs everything by a rank even if A-Ranked.
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>>145096804
https://twitter.com/XSEEDGames/status/741346966508998657

forgot tweet
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>>145096454
Octocripple & Horse Cock > Vlad & Darn-it-Nick
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quick question.
Since I use QooApp for japanese games,what app is good for pirating english games
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>>145096798
long-haired Mashu
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>>145096681
That's why the idea was scrapped completely, the original idea Nasu had was more of a generic battle shonen than anything else.
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>>145096435
I do.
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>>145096823
He wasn't really shitty, he had good ideals and wanted to save the world. He gave Heracles a place in the world when no one else would.

He was just ancient Shinji, but not in an evil way. He was Shinji if nothing ever took him down a peg to make him bitter and spiteful towards the world. So he does want to do good with his power, but he's still a bit arrogant and small minded while doing it at times.

But not really bad at all
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>>145097128
>pirate
>f2p
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>>145096974
Fate/zero saved the series by carrying the lesser works on its back. Thank urobuchi for really making a name for fate here in the West.
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>>145097152
More like battle shounen mixed with otome game.
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>>145096798
Can't you tell it's Jannu Alter?
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>>145093570
Can some moonreader help out with this?
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>>145096974
>>145097234
It's more because XSEED always have a booth in E3.
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>>145097052
I want to see a 3rd Holy Grail War adaption. They've set it up so well, Nazis, Manjew/Amakusa, Zouken, Darnic, twin sabers, midget Hassan, it sounds like the craziest grail war.
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>>145097194
Didn't he go on his whole journey because he thought he deserved to be a king?
Yes, he wanted to be a good king and rule wisely. But all the crap he pulled during his journey pretty much showed he was unfit to be one.
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>>145097428
In Nasuverse, or actual lore?
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>>145097428
You can be a not-completely-awful person and still not be fit to be a king.
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>>145097234
Fate Zero was only able to air because of DEEN success in the first place, which was only possible thanks to the original VN, which again was done only thanks to Tsukihime success.
And since Nasu wrote Tsukihime and Takeuchi was the man responsible for Nasu being able to write Tsukihime, Takeuchi is the true savior and responsible of Extella making it to the west.
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>>145095720
>sounds more retarded than apocrypha.
nah
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>>145097547
Like Artoria
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>>145097547
Like Mordred!
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>>145096453
EMIYA just can't catch a break.
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>>145097506
Both of them.
He had good intentions in the Nasuverse as well, people are seeing him as the bad guy because he treats Medea badly.
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>>145097595
>>145097601
Exactly the point I was trying to make. Though Arturia was more or less fit to rule when she started her reign, it's just that she was suddenly very UNfit to rule after she ended the Age of Gods.
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>>145097128
plz respond I just got an actual phone I wanna play shit
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>it's a chink event
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>Jason: Medea. What was just said, that was a lie right?
>Jason: If you sacrifice a Divine Spirit to the Ark, you get unrivalled power don't you?
>Jason: After all, that ally said...
>Medea: Yes, it's not a lie. After all, if the time period dies then the world is destroyed.
>Medea: The world being destroyed means that rivals won't exist. See, you'll be unrivalled.
>Jason: Y-You. You all decived me?
>Jason: So then, there's no reason to! This time, I wanted to make an ideal country.
>Jason: For everyone to respect me! For everyone to be content and not fight. A true utopia!
>Jason: Isn't this a trial for that!? Haven't I been given a second chance?
>Medea: That's an unattainable dream Jason-sama. After all, you can't accomplish it.
>Medea: You can't become an ideal king. The heart that desires peace for all people is the real thing, but the soul that moves it is hoplessly twisted.
>Medea: You... In it's desired form, your wish must not be granted.
>Medea: You must realize the moment you grasp what you truly wish for, it is fated that you will completely destroy it with your own hands.
>Jason: W-What did you say, Witch! What does a girl who was sequestered in a rural temple understand?
>Jason: A king's child by birth, my uncle stole the throne and I was confined to a Centaur stable!
>Jason: While resigning myself to that humiliation, I cultivated my brilliance, putting together both the Argo and its heroes.
>Jason: That is where I was from! Where I am going! And you say that I don't have a king's qualifications!?
>Jason: I just wanted to take back my country! I just wanted a country for myself!
>Jason: What's so bad about that, you traitor!

People seem to think/bitch that Nasu made Jason evil and Medea into a Dindu, in a story-line where she was going to destroy the world, and he wanted to create a good kingdom.

He wasn't perfect, but he's not bad.
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Forgotten story character gacha when?
>4* Archer Sita
>4* Caster Jason
>5* Saber Deermud
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are there any difference between Arthur and Artoria when it comes to personality?
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Think we'll get Red Hare during the event? Seems like the best time if Lu Bu is involved.
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>>145097428
>mobilized a fuck ton of heroes to serve under him who would probably be impossible for anyone else to control with success
>pretty much did what he set out to do
>when he got home the only reason he didn't get the throne is because Medea was fucking crazy and was doing questionable shit
>remarries to get the throne that was supposed to be ensured to him for completing his ordeal
>Medea goes crazy and kills his kids, his future wife and he gets cursed by the Gods even though they were the ones who fucked him over to begin with

Jason did nothing wrong
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>>145089731

The new China isn't a genderbend, her gender is vague in the original material iirc.
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>>145097927
Yes, he's more like Archer. Parts of his personality went into creating Archer when he was scrapped.

He's already moved past things a bit, but originally his desire was similar to Arthuria's I think.
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>>145091947
There is no sign because she is not a welfare

She is like Jeanne Alter. Put into the game early as an enemy with no profile and a tone point will get reworked into a proper playable servant
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>>145098031
I always use the female Sanzang as well myself. She's cuter.
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>>145097872
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
I have no idea why people say Nasu made him a bad guy to have Medea in a better light, he is flawed but not a bad guy.
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>>145097969

>implying Cao Cao won't be the 5* servant assuming Sanzang is the welfare
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Jason when?
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>>145098109
So this event is officially the worst one in the history of the game? Fucking 1* servant welfare was better than this.
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http://bosel.blog64.fc2.com/blog-entry-5583.html

Even Japan is talking about Wu Kong getting in. Technically half of Wu Kong's character profile is already in his/her Koha entry.

NPs are already decided, even though he has like five of them.
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>>145098217
>ANOTHER Caster welfare
nah
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>>145098109
Jeanne Alter had profile and skills already in the game though, I remember it being translated even before she came out.
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>>145098217
>cao cao
>not liu "dindu nuffin rong" bei

japs wank liu bei more than cao "ambition is evil" cao
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>>145098248
>Her Noble Phantasms are the Ruyi Jingu Bang (天河鎮定神珍鉄(通称・如意金箍棒), ?), golden chain mail shirt (鎖子黄金甲, ?), phoenix-feather cap (鳳翅紫金冠, ?), and cloud-walking boots (藕糸歩雲履, ?). She can use a Reality Marble-like skill that involves a process similar to Tsubame Gaeshi on a much larger scale.

Lot of these don't sound that impressive though
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If Cu Alter can use runes to negate damage from Carnage, can't he use the same to negate damage from enemies, making him virtually unkillable?

Why can't regular Cu use Carnage, if he only needs to rune to avoid being damaged?
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I am just gonna keep all these riceballs and see if they get deleted at the end
Using them to get a few more gourds to exchange for QP is not worth it just in case they carry over like apples
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>>145098324

Liu Bei is just a shitty sandal weaver, he'll be a 3* shitter that's not worth mentioning.
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>>145098229
The shitty part are the rewards, specifically the rewards after defeating Ibaraki between everyone, and the drops, they could have given more in the shop and made the drops better.
Other than that, I think the dynamic is pretty good actually, take out life and that's how much points you gain. I like having a hard event for change, but again, would be good if they could actually give something for such a hard event.
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>>145098443
I hope so, I really do, but it's not going to happen.
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>hand paralyzes me right before i'm about to unleash my NP

This event was a mistake
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Would Wu-Kong be welfare like Nobunaga was and be nerfed?
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>It becomes possible for her to utilize magecraft that reaches into the realm of Magic, using EX-ranked blasts capable of overwhelming even A-rank Magic Resistance.

So HGoB individual beams are stronger than Excaliblast?
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>/fgog/ is bitching that they weren't bribed to play FGO with a free servant

Cringe as fuck. You should be grateful they gave you an event at all instead of nothing until Camelot.
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>next event is 2 weeks long again
I am already collecting my disappointment
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>>145098646
He'll probably be five star

The other Koha servants will probably be in the same Gatcha though.

Hideyoshi 5*
Okada 4*
Maxwell 4*
Old Li Shuwen 4*
Demon Musashi 3*
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>>145098669
I'm pretty sure any beam NP is capable of overcoming A-rank Magic Resistance.
No servant has ever tanked one just by having Magic Resistance after all.
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>>145098760

>Musashi
>3*

Fuck off Melvin, he'll be a 5* with E X E A M and you know it.
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>>145093726
>defeated Gawain
>but no Lancelot
JUST

>wanked this hard
>Saber Lancelot also written by Sakurai
GILFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>145098671
They want us to play the game to be content for the whales so the whales can show off their whaling to us.
They need us more than we need them.
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>>145098760
>He
Wu-Kong is female in Koha Ace
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>>145097428
>he thought he deserved to be a king
It was his birthright. The throne was supposed to have been his. He was snubbed out of it very early in his life, but you can't say he just demanded it be handed back to him so simply. He worked his ass off to reclaim that birthright. He led the greatest gathering of some of the greatest heroes the world had ever known up to that point, on a quest that took them to the end of the world, they defeated monsters and armies, they schemed and toiled. If he did deserve that throne for any reason more than another, it would have been that he put his everything into getting Iolcos back.

And this wasn't just something he decided on a whim. There was a prophecy stating, or so it was believed, that Jason would take Iolcos back. Jason spent the first twenty years of his life being raised and trained by the seer Chiron, who so many other heroes knew as their mentor. Even the gods want out of their way to help Jason after his return to his homeland. If you looked at it from an outsider's perspective, it seems like a given that Jason should be king. Especially since the man he would replace was proven to be dishonorable and out of favor with the gods. If you look at it from Jason's perspective, it has to be fate.

And again, Jason worked his entire life to make it happen and attain glory for himself. So it's not so simple to say he's just some entitled shit, because even though he had every reason to feel entitled he still worked as hard as he could to reach his goal.
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>>145098621
>he didn't kill the hands
your mistake sempai
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>>145098859
Pay attention to Koha more

Wukong has the ability to shift genders, he was both he and she in different panels.

>>145098837
Demon Musashi is not Miyamoto Musashi
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>>145098837
Demon Musashi =/= Miyamoto Musashi
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>>145098884

Fuck off cc-c fag
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>>145098969
>Thinking they wouldn't make them female for F/GO where females are proven to sell better and are the main focus of gacha events and events in general 9/10 times
LOL
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>>145098961
no you see the NP was supposed to wipe out the hands in one go, but my arts cards just weren't coming to me fast enough.
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>>145098671
They are not an ONG trying to entertain us in a free time, they are company trying to sell a product we use to entertain us in our free time.
There is nothing to be grateful about if they do mediocre job.
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>>145098286
Just give me a Lancer welfare.
Guan Yu would be perfect for the job.
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>>145097847
>It's a chink event that ISN'T Three Kingdoms
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>>145099143

DELETE THIS
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>Thinking a free single target buster NP with 1000% damage boost at level 5 servant is a bad thing
Same retards who think Santa Alter being able to hit over a million with her NP on a caster wave is shit
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>>145098841
I'm pretty sure Lancelot had left Camelot by the time Arthur went on his military campaign in Gaul.
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>>145099018
>writes three paragraphs instead of a sentence to give his point of view
>he must be that guy who also writes paragraphs
>no one can write paragraphs other than him
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>>145099218

>implying

Why else would Lu Bu be in the promo pic?
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>>145098884
So, with so much PLOT on his side, how did he fail to be king? Did it really just boil down to betraying Medea to marry some other princess and thus falling out of favor with the gods?
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>>145093726
>Defeated Bedivere with one punch, also defeated Gawain
>But avoided Lancelot because he can easily take out other Servants
Poor Gawain shitters.
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>>145099134
Would whale for/10.
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>>145099143
Would whale
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>>145099045
Goku parody will sell more, ironically
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>>145099218
Mulan (Saber) would be alright.
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>>145099045
First art will be a dude.

Second and third, in no particular order, will be a loli and a buxom onee-san.

>>145099340
Why are Shuwen and fucking DAVID in the promo pic?
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>single-target NP
>terribad damage
>only does extra damage against some male servants that are mostly crap anyway
Bryn is in desperate need of an interlude
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>>145099134
>big tits
Bless
>>145099292
>male
Shit
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>>145099351
>avoided
>Lancelot, Percival, Galahad were some of the popular knights of King Arthur's who embarked on the quest for the Holy Grail, but they were actually junior knights who joined later for the quest.
>The earliest and most famous knights who swore allegiance to King Arthur included Ser Kay, Ser Gawain, and Ser Bedivere. They had histories even older than King Arthur's.
>Lancelot had not joined yet
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I found the actual page
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>>145099510
>>only does extra damage against some male servants that are mostly crap anyway
And Ushi.

Her third skill and Prana Burst give her potential if you build your team right. Even without Brynhildr's Beloved, an NPBB chain with crits is pretty devastating.
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What should ROMA's third skill be?
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>>145099597
plz translate m8
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>>145099350
He was stuck because Medea went over the line when they returned to Iolcos which lead to them being exiled.

Jason had to find a way to take the kingdom back so he was going to marry into different royalty and then get his own country back, but Medea snapped and killed all the children associated with Jason including her own and then fled.

Meanwhile Jason broke his promise with Medea which pissed Hera (Who was his biggest supporter) off and then she basically fucked him up.

He basically got stuck in that "No matter what you did the Gods were going to fuck you up" zone
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>>145099597

Fuck off ROTKfag
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>>145099473
>Why are Shuwen and fucking DAVID in the promo pic?

Its supposed to be a recreation of the band they traveled with in the story, according to one anon. The lance master, the lecherous farmer, and the beastly guy.
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>>145099280
>Tiberius only had the balls to attack Camelot when Lancelot left
He knew about EAM.

And again, remember that same author is the one in charge to wank Saber Lancelot. Are you ready? :^)
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>>145099693
Greek gods, not even once.
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>>145099764
>the lecherous farmer
Why not Lancelot then?
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>>145099693
Poor Jason.
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>>145099641
I'm honestly not convinced he needs one. Either crit weight or NP charge would be nice, though.
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>>145093726
>didn't defeat Sir Kay
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>>145099584
Why do you think Tiberius went to Camelot and not France then? He knew. Lancelot had EAM and that includes Tiberius.
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>>145099770
You do realise that all of Sakurai's wank has been targeted at everyone but the Knights of the Round, right? If anything, Lancelot will end up being killed to showcase that the main villain is a threat.
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>Chinese event

Is it finally time?
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>No Ibaraki welfare
>Next event won't have any welfare either
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>>145092624
how come that there are two sabers?

what is he? a spare like Gil?
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>>145099350
He lost his chance at Iolcos before he settled in Corinth and decided to remarry. The reason he lost his chance was because everyone figured out Medea had orchestrated a regicide.

How that goes suffers a bit between versions. In some versions she enters Iolcos in disguise on her own and presents herself to the king's court as a healer, where she then orchestrates the murder independently from Jason. In other versions Jason is there with her in the royal court, and it's more ambiguous what his level of involvement in her scheme is. Nasu's version seems to have had Jason and Medea plot together, making them both culprits.
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>>145097872
I think people are annoyed that Jason is made to seem like an asshole, rather than any perceived evil on his part. Like this scene, for example.

>Artemis: "I know that, it's called Domestic Violence!"
>Orion: "This is worse. Neither of those two really sees the other one clearly at all."
>Mashu: "Sending his wife to the front lines while not fighting himself. Master, this guy is..."
>Protagonist: "...without a doubt, he's human trash."
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>>145100101
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS!
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finally finished playing Extra, just how different is Extra and CCC?
is it just different branching paths like Shin Megami Tensei IV Final?
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How are the japs evaluating servant score for each individual servant? I'm interested since I wanted to design my own evaluation score and a point of reference would be nice.
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>>145099969
>France
>worth conquering
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>>145093726

>two (2) new strange fake servants
>still no Dong Bai

For Fucks sake Narita, how much longer are you going to keep me waiting?
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>>145099641
What should Moon Loon's third skill be?
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>>145100137
>Meanwhile, Saber fighting for Shirou is meant to be shown as acceptable because she's more capable of taking care of herself than he is
Fucking Nasu
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>>145100114
other classes can use swords.
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>chink event
>not ROTK
how are they gonna shoehorn waver into this I wonder
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>>145100235
>>two (2) new strange fake servants
Enkidu and Furryman?
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Anyone else glad that they stopped with the welfare servants? It's not fair for us paying customers to have free to play leechers get handholded by free servants.
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>>145100002
She just doesn't like the shit knights like Gawain. Also Toberius was wanked in order to wank Arthur. Sakurai knows what she is doing. In order to make the defeat seem big, she needs to wank the loser too.

So no matter what Saber Lancelot role will be, wank is GUARANTEED.
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>>145100156
Unless you care about Sakura don't bother with CCC

It's basically just a giant "SAKURA IS THE REAL BEST GIRL, LIKING ANYONE ELSE IS OBJECTIVELY WRONG AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD FOR LIKING SERVANTS" wank
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>>145100392
what if I liked the gameplay
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>>145099969
France was already Tiberius's you stupid faggot what is Gaul.
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>>145100298
he looks like a saber for me. As far as I remember all proto servants of each standard class is already complete.
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>>145100339
Waver gets possessed by Zoogy and brings peace to China, all by himself.
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>>145099969
France should already be under his control though.
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>>145100392
But isn't Anderson and his master the true villians?
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>>145100339

Zhuge Liang finds a way.

>>145100345

Lucius and the watchers
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>>145100440
literally the same shit with no improvements
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>>145100101
>>145100152
I hadn't actually realized we'd gotten a welfare Servant every month from October through February.

Still, I don't particularly want another welfare Servant right now unless it's a Lancer or it's Arcueid. I have plenty of great 4-stars from every class except Lancer.
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>>145099045
Dantes has sold more than every female in the game except Jeanne and Scat, which who he is on pair.
Though, I haven't checked since Iskander release so who knows if Shuten fared as well.
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>>145100392
Yeah, that's why CCC goes out of its way to give the player endings for each Servant, right? Fuck off.
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>>145100216
Reminder Lancelot easily beat all the shit knights that went after him.

Tiberius was too scared of Lancelot and avoided the one and only UNRIVALED at all costs
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I wonder if Prototype will be more novels, or maybe an anime?
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>>145100357
Toberius wasn't wanked to wank Arthur, he was wanked for the sake of wank. Arthur literally only won because Gaia was supporting him.

And if it's the shit knights she won't wank, she'll definitely not wank Lancelot. Pretend all you like, but he murdered two unarmed innocents, betrayed his king and kingdom, and was just generally a shit person.
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>>145100579
You mean the endings that are designated as bad-ends that only happen temporarily before the servers are reset again until you pick the True End with Sakura and escape the cycle?

They're literally not "ends" and Nasu is telling you that indulging in that fantasy is wrong to begin with
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>>145100595
>went after him
>before Camelot shit
>France was already conquered before he went for Camelot
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Jason wasn't irredeemable, but he also wasn't a 100% good guy either. I like the Greek heroes because they're all very human.

He had good intentions and was a hero in terms of his adventurers (making friends, helping kings, putting down usurpers and all that). His biggest problem was yep how he treated Medea. When Medea asked him why he didn't marry her even after she did literally all the dirty work for him, he was like "lol why should I thank you... I'm thanking Aphrodite for making you fall in love with me in the first place." Yeah, that was a pretty stupid thing to say as someone whose fortune came from the help of Hera.

IIRC the Greeks thought piracy was a noble profession, so in their times Jason's activities were heroic.
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>>145100450
>implying
So how was Lancelot allowed to just go on a trip to Camelot if they were at war?

>>145100472
>should
Sure thing. Tiberius should have been defeated by Lancelot easily.
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>>145100392
>not choosing your Servant's ending instead of Sakura
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>>145100560
>source: my ass
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>>145099693
>Medea snapped and killed all the children associated with Jason including her own
In Euripides' play the only children she kills are her own. Jason and Glauke hadn't had any children at that point.

In Nasu's version the children were born of Glauke, not Medea. Meaning Medea most likely stuck around in Corinth for at least nine months before enacting her revenge. This suggests that Jason didn't try to get her to leave the city as he did in the play Medea. And Glauke would have become a mother of at least two children before she was even legally married, which would probably be sort of outrageous for a young princess even if she did have a fiancé.
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>>145100560
Yet most gold servants continue to be female and all event servants have been female

>>145100776
>>145100579
Not the true end so they don't matter, and unlike Fate/Stay Night it's literally called the True End officially. So the other endings are objectively not-canon or at the very least are not valued in the same way.
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>>145100761
>was Lancelot allowed to just go on a trip to Camelot if they were at war
>implying Grail quest didn't happen afterwards
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>be DW
>event directly after bringing in a bunch of new players is for end game autism or whales to enjoy
>no welfare servant for new players to use
>all the new accounts don't have any of the other free servants

DW going full jew
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>>145100280
The conclusion to that was both fighting together though.
Shirou was a clear supporter of "women should not fight".
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Rothschild HEROIC SPIRIT WHEN
>tfw he could have Seibah suck his dick any time he wants
What a life
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>>145100761
>Melvin doesn't know shit about his favorite character.
Color me surprised.
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>>145100702
>France was already conquered
CITATION

And make sure it's from Nasuverse
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>>145100695
So Nasu wants us to get 3DPD gfs?
What the fuck is wrong with him? What's wrong with marrying your waifu or the person who helped you grow like that? I never understood his argument for that other than it's pretty much just a way to cover up his need to shoehorn Sakura one last time into something.
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>>145100392
>choosing a sakura that isn't wormed is somehow a bad thing

nah, that's stay night shitter logic m8.
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>>145100392
But I like Sakura and don't like the clones in Extra/CCC. They're stupid.
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>>145100879
If a player can actually handle doing the Ibaraki event seriously then they don't need a welfare.
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>>145100914
>implying she would
Not everyone is a gold digger anon, not even Nero is.
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>>145101006
Because you're supposed to be separated from the servant after they help you grow or some shit

>Ignoring Medusa and Sakura
>Ignoring Arturia and Shirou
>Ignoring Sieg and Jeanne
>Ignoring the fact that Sakura was a fucking AI to begin with and less real than any of the servants
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anyone have that "twisted fucking psychopath" edit of Dantes
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>>145100914
OY VEY
OY GEVALT
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Scans fucking when?
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>>145101064
all the new players can't even do the event then outside of 1bp

>>145101006
nasu wants you to realize the lifestyle of indulging in your wants and ignoring reality is a horrible way of living, the waifu shit doesn't ultimately matter since he's still making you choose a 2d character for the true end.
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Think female Proto Merlin is a Saberface?
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>>145100723
He did marry her, though. She wanted him to answer for why he left her even though with all she did for him he should feel like he was indebted to her.
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>>145100695
>They're literally not "ends"
They are. The Servant endings are perfectly valid and placed on the same level as the true ending in Extra material, they even give you a choice for which one you want after you've gone down the Sakura route.
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>>145101215
>all the new players can't even do the event then outside of 1bp
That's the point. Why would they give a welfare Servant out from an "advanced" event?
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>>145100826
You would know the source if you weren't a gigantic newfag.
https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/62911/fategrand-order/
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>>145101118
>implying she has a choice
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>mfw finally killed Ibaraki without any Waver

thank god i leveled Helena and Andersen
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>>145101143
>Ignoring the fact that Sakura was a fucking AI to begin with and less real than any of the servants
BUT YOU SHOULD LOVE HER MORE EVEN THOUGH YOU JUST MET BECAUSE SHE REALLY LOVES YOU FOR NO REASON
Fuck that was so stupid. it made 0 fucking sense at all.

>>145101215
Fuck reality. There isn't shit in it. What does he do all fucking day? Play Dark Souls 3 and probably eat shrooms and jack off.
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>>145101187
>nipple

MODS !!
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>>145101302
because they pushed the zero event to the mass public to get them to play and now they are just leaving them with nothing but materials
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>>145100939
>the Industrial Revolution happened
CITATION

And make sure it's not from your headcanon
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>>145101187
>There are untranslated CCC T-Moon Complex doujins
>There are untranslated Rubbish RE Fate doujins
>There are untranslated PNO group Ilya doujins
It's not fair.
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>>145100851
We're told that it's the "true" end because it reveals shit about the plot and saying goodbye to your Servant is Fate's usual style, not because the other endings aren't canon or that they're lesser.
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>>145100392
This entire post is bullshit, it sounds like you just got ass mad at someone's half description of what happened.

The game doesn't force Sakura on you at all, and there are servant endings that are also valid.
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>>145100440
Then you shouldn't even play in this shit. Both Extra are horrible games, but only one of them has a decent story.
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>>145101542
And new players don't need materials because...?
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>>145101310
Explain.
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>>145100392
Except for how none of that is correct
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>>145101708
Saber loves her country and will do anything for it. The only man capable to fiance a war against the Saxons and win it for her can get her to do anything he wants.
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>>145101702
They need servants more than materials and a free gold servant, even if kind of bad, goes a long way to keep people playing
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>>145101616
No they aren't, it's like >>145100695
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>>145101519
>Fuck reality. There isn't shit in it. What does he do all fucking day? Play Dark Souls 3 and probably eat shrooms and jack off.

spoken like a true child

>>145101702
lack of servants from being new? how hard was that to think of?
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Damn I just finished America, am I too late for the Oni event?
Can anyone give me pointers to blaze through the event for now? or at least the most mandatory things i need to do

Thanks in advance
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>>145101856
>lack of servants from being new?
They get showered with quartz from doing the main story, then doing the free quests.
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>chink event
>swimsuits
>still no announcement for proto
Fuck
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>>145101519
Sakura was a high level AI who grew a heart, she's no less of a person than Einzbern homuculi are artificial meatsacks.

Either way, you aren't even forced to play her route and even if you go out of your way to do so, there's nothing stopping you from choosing your Servant at the final stretch. Sakura is never forced upon you.
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>>145100939
Stop being american. Gaul is the name of the french territory before the Francs take it over and it was part of the roman empire since Caesar conquered it.

>>145101006
Nasu is a woman
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>>145101241
That's just for replayability retard, don't conflate game mechanics with canon

It's called the True End for a reason, not the Sakura End
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>>145101835
Saber already won every battle until the Saxons had to sign a peace treaty though
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>>145101975
Since when has Gudako been into lolis anyway?
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>>145101975
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>>145101918
Beat up Ibaraki
Repeat a few times
Quit because the event is shit and has no servant reward

>>145102000
Yeah because we all know that the fantastically generous gacha is going to give them so many free servants.
Oh. Wait.
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>>145101519
So, let me guess straight.
You hate something that makes no sense in the real world because of it, but you at the same time hate reality and think it is worthless while behaving like a child.

Which is it then? Do you want things to be real or not?
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>>145101975
Pretty sureRiyo draws things just to get commissions at this point
I love it
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>>145102020
She is forced upon you by canon and by Nasu's fucking philosophical garbage, not even the anon you're responding to but Nasu is basically saying you are wrong if you don't pick Sakura
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>>145102145
At the very least they're going to have plenty of 3-stars and a few 4-stars. And the 5-star they rerolled for days for.
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>>145102091
I don't we knew about her tastes until now, makes sense since she doesn't care about Mashu and fat body.
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>>145102091
Considering that she's a specialist at domming and bullying titty monsters like Olga and Mashu, maybe she just wants a change of scenery.
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>>145102057
>caring this much about canon

Not everyone here is an autist who can enjoy things only if they're >canon
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>>145102320
Mashu is her little eggplant

Mashu has a special place in her sadistic heart, for bullying.
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>>145101616
It doesn't force you to pick Sakura, it's true you can delusionally ignore Nasu's message and pick the servant ends as long as you ignore the hidden message that all that shit is just a temporary bad-end before the servers get reset by Sakura because she doesn't want you to have a happy ending with the servants.

Nasu does not want players choosing servants as their love interest, he actively discourages it. Servants are something you grow with and then move on from, they are not meant to be your life partners no matter how much they love you or how much you love them. Your relationship with them isn't worth shit and you should just accept the love interest Nasu hand picked for this exact same message in both F/SN and Extra - Sakura.

Just like Shirou is not supposed to actually wind up with Saber and indulging his childish whims, Hakuno is not supposed to fall into that same trap with Tamamo or Nero.

Sakura is the true end in both games and it's not a coincidence that Nasu chose her for that role both times

>>145102430
They're not equally valid or on the same level if only one is canon, which was what your original claim was retard.

If one is canon then that one is definitively more valid and on a higher level since the other is not canon.
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>>145102283
>he thinks casuals spent days re-rolling
Retard
>he thinks everyone will be lucky enough to pull the good 4*s and not just a bunch of Stheno, Sumanai and other shit like Emiya
Retard x3
>he thinks people will be motivated to keep playing by slaving away 2 weeks long for a bunch of materials to upgrade servants they might not even like
Retard x9
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>>145101856
>spoken like a true child
I don't see how that makes me a child. Please oh enlightened one tell me what there is to do in life besides indulge in media? Fuck 3D sluts? No thanks. Get a job right? Haha.

>>145102181
Um, what?
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>>145102057
Its the true end, because it was supposed to be the farewell to Fate as a franchise for Nasu. Saying goodbye to your servants is an important scene for him, and its the route where you find out the entire full truth.

Then Nasu changed his mind on it being the end a year later

>End branches
>There are two types of routes in CCC.
>If you’ve seen the Sakura-centric events, you will enter the True route,
>whereas if you pay no mind to Sakura and see all the Servant events, you will enter the Servant routes.
>The chapter title for Chapter 7 differs between the two, so it becomes immediately apparent which route you’ve entered.
>…...However, it’s still possible to see the Servant endings after you’ve entered the True route.
>In the True route, there is a final branching point where you can choose which ending to see.
>Also, the reason the True route is called the "True" route is not just because it’s the route where the truth behind the story is revealed, but also because “bidding farewell to your Servant” is the pinnacle of the Fate franchise, and the rightful conclusion.
>…...Well, even so, the scenario writer’s personal favorite ending is Gilgamesh’s! (TL note: Nasu is referring to himself in third person)

Its hard to tell if he just shills each game at the time, or if he really is that whimsical about changing his mind constantly.
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>>145102641
this is bait
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>>145102525
You act like timelines aren't a thing. Only two even stay in the Moon Cell. Gil and Hakuno fuck off to 1500LY away.
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>>145102206
It's the same as Stay Night, really. He seems to think that if you don't pick the True End and shed away all the 'childish' hero ideals, you are wrong.
Predictably, nobody gave a fuck what he said and continued to pick their favorite girl anyway. It's the same here.
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>>145102672
yea, that or a severely misguided individual.
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>>145102626
They will, we're still here, aren't we?
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>>145102654
>Sakura End/True End is the rightful conclusion
In other words, it's still the fucking true end and he didn't change his mind about shit don't try to confuse people with your wall of text you retard

He basically spells out for you in that exact fucking paragraph that separating from your servant is the proper end and that you should not remain with them - that that is a fucking wrong choice that should not be made
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>>145102443
This is some high level moe

We have to protect this smile
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>>145102525
>which was what your original claim was retard
I just got into this argument, and my point still stands. I don't give a fuck about a story being more valid than other or not, as long as it's entertaining.
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>>145102525
>…...Well, even so, the scenario writer’s personal favorite ending is Gilgamesh’s! (TL note: Nasu is referring to himself in third person)
You say that, yet his favorite ending is Gilgamesh's. And there is citation for it, are you gonna tell you know more about the author than the author himself?
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>>145102782
>implying /fgog/ is the broad casual masses they attracted with Zero
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>>145102683
Timelines don't matter when one ending is definitively called both the True End and "rightful conclusion" by Nasu himself.

Especially when with the exception of the Gilgamesh ending the other 3 all involve a soft-rest of CCC entirely where your ending doesn't even happen because you get reset over and over through the same situation until you give in and pick Sakura over your servants.
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I just want more of this Lucius guy. The butthurt and rage from just the hearsay of a minor appearance has been good stuff so far.
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>>145102525
But what the fuck makes Sakura so much more mature compared to the MCs relationship, or your relationship with your Servant? How is wantign to marry Nero or Tamamo childish over leaving the Moonshit AI to die or something? Fuck that. I would rather get erased from existence then go live with Sakura over my waifu.

It makes no sense why you should want to leave them for someone else you barely. It's just stupid.
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>>145102952
There've been threads on Fate on /a/ for a while now. Remember the GAR meme?
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>>145102979
Again, timelines. Are you a retard who thinks HF is the canon ending to FSN as well?
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>>145102443
What kind of punishment did Mashu received?
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>>145102782
Most of the people here are anything but casuals. Shitposters would maybe be casuals, but everyone else that endures this hell can't be called casual.
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>>145102683
>Gil and Hakuno fuck off to 1500LY away.

That's still within the digital world, they're just in a digital network outside of the Mooncell's control. The digital network spans across the universe, the Mooncell is only one hub of it. Hakuno is a digital body, he cannot exist outside of the Mooncell. All endings except one still end up in the Mooncell. Only reason he reaches Earth in one ending is because Sakura cheats to recreate him a physical body, and transfers his data into it.

>No, more importantly, explain.....!
>Where is this, and what happened?!
>Also, why the heck are you half-naked?!
>“This place?
>This is another virtual world. Not SE.RA.PH.,
>but the network of another planet.
>The Moon Cell said that it could not accept you,
>and that it would delete you no matter what, you see.
>So I abandoned it and flew out on impulse,
>deciding to settle for any planet with sentient beings who place an emphasis on expenditure and advancement.
>Well―――indeed, we’ve ended up some 1500 light years from Earth,
>but you’ll have to make some allowances.
>It is a mere triviality when compared with the scenery!”
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>>145102672
>>145102764
Is being a NEET seriously no longer allowed on 4chan?
What the fuck has happened.
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>>145102984
Emperor guy wants Arthur to pay tribute, Arthur snubs him, war starts, Arthur becomes Emprah.
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>>145103046
the casual masses do not go to 4chan you impertinent idiot
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>>145102936
Just because it's his favorite ending that doesn't mean shit, because even though it's his favorite he acknowledges that the real ending is Sakura's and not his favorite.

His favorite ending has nothing to do with the message he is trying to convey through the game, which is that you should not remain with the servants and that moving on from them is the most important thing.

>>145103061
Heaven's Feel isn't called the True End, Sakura end in CCC is. Totally different scenario. Sorry you can't just "M-muh Nero end is totally equally valid just because of timelines" when CCC itself covers that by saying "Yes, Nero end and Tamamo end can happen - but the servers get reset until you pick Sakura" as a canonical point.

There is no "Nero end that just continues happily forever" there is only "Nero end that continues for a bit before Sakura resets the servers to give you another chance to pick the "Correct" choice"
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>>145102979
Too bad for him.
I'm gonna keep picking my Servants and unless a story is linear and does not allow for choices to be made, then I'll choose what I desire and never what others desire.
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>>145103225
>The reason that the true end route is the “true” end is because it’s the route that reveals the truth of the story aspects that the protagonist doesn’t know yet. But it’s not only that. “Bidding farewell to your Servant” is an incredibly important part of Fate works, and so the true end route was selected as the true ending because it has a proper Fate style conclusion.

Literally all it is, none of your retarded overreaching.
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>>145103040
Because Sakura is the only ending that results in you escaping from the virtual world, aka the fantasy world that you're trapped in (Wow symbolism).

Living with the servants forever is a fantasy - it's a nice fantasy, but it's still just a childish fantasy. This is why all the servant endings (Aside from EMIYA where you just fucking die) still have Hakuno trapped in the Moon Cell. Yeah it's fun and cute, but it's not real - you're still in digital space just indulging in a childish whim.

It's no different from the Fate Route where Shirou doesn't have to abandon his hero ideal at all - which Nasu DEFINITELY hates.

Sakura end is the only end where you're forced to acknowledge separation from the servants and thus you also get to leave the Moon Cell to be with Sakura in the real world. It's the same level of symbolism as Shirou killing Saber in Heaven's Feel - abandoning your silly childish dreams for the real world.

Nasu is very consistent about this message.
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>twf no Illya fate route
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>>145103164
being a NEET isn't the problem, it's the mindset you have which is wrong.
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>>145103445
>tfw you will never make someone's clothes disappear in one panel
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>>145103224
Some of them come from time to time thanks to internet popularity that the site has like the frog shooter case or one /b/ many stupidities.
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>>145103224
>there are no Zerobabies on 4chan
wew
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>>145096607
Jokes should be kept as jokes.
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>>145103445
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>>145103445
Well, I did want to masturbate for a seventh time anyway
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>>145103374
>Still no explanation for the game itself revealing in the true end that the servant ends exist but they were reset over and over again
The game literally fucking tells you that those ends are not permanent, that Sakura will always reset your save file and send you into NG+ until you escape.

You can live that tiny snippet of a wish as long as you want, but it will never be a permanent end that leads toward a future like the True End is.

That's the entire fucking message of the game, that you will not grow until you pick Sakura because the final step of growing with your servant is separating from them and moving on without them. Stop fucking ignoring the symbolism just to be a stubborn fuck and pretend all the endings are equal, because they aren't.
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>>145103431
But what is so bad about living with your waifu in the MoonCell?
What would make a life with Sakura so grand and amazing?

He gives 0 incentive why I should want to love someone else, as if that's how love even works. You don't just stop loving your girl and go for the new one because she won't leave you the fuck alone.
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>>145103714
Don't wear yourself out, anon.
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>>145103164
It's like you don't know /fgog/ is full of redditors/tumblrinas. Didn't you see those posts about Gil's Nazi clothes or Shuten's design?
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>>145103775
>…However, just because you’ve entered the true end route it doesn’t mean it’s impossible to reach a Servant end.
>When on the true end route, when you open the last door you will be presented with a variety of choices which will affect which route you will ultimately head down, so don’t worry if you were aiming for a Servant end, it’s still possible.
>doesn’t mean it’s impossible to reach a Servant end
That's obviously not just from a gameplay standpoint, but a plot standpoint.
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>>145103609
>twisting words to shitpost about zero
You're even more childish than the edgelord underage cancer

>>145103924
Posting actually good Shuten
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>>145103784
Ask Nasu, his actual message is probably the same as in Fate/Stay Night.

The servant comes into your life, they reveal something about you, stay with you like a parent or other guardian would and then the culmination of that experience is separating from them and learning to grow on your own.

Take Shirou for instance - he meets Arturia and has this childish ideal about becoming a hero. Then shit happens and he has to choose between his ideal and Sakura, which comes to a head when you have that decision at the end of the route to stab Saber with the Azoth dagger or not. Stabbing her is the ultimate separation from both his ideal and his servant, but at the same time that is the final push to fully grow as a person who is not simply living to be some hero wannabee who wants to save everyone anymore
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>>145102057
>It's called the True End for a reason
A reason which is evidently lost on you, you uneducated phillistine.
>The reason that the true end route is the “true” end is because it’s the route that reveals the truth of the story aspects that the protagonist doesn’t know yet.
>“Bidding farewell to your Servant” is an incredibly important part of Fate works, and so the true end route was selected as the true ending because it has a proper Fate style conclusion.
It's true for these reasons, that certain things get explained and that Fate typically has the Master and Servant bidding farewell. The Servant ends are equally legitimate endings, just as all the endings in the original VN or Tsukihime not labeled true are legitimate and every bit as canon.
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>>145103513
And tell me, what is wrong with my mindset? All I said was I don't want a disgusting 3D. There is literally nothing wrong with indulging in media. The only other "real" alternative is going out to college and spending your life either working for a family or a to make others happy, or to make money doing something you most likely won't enjoy. I see nothing beneficial for me in that.
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>>145104005
>those tits
Hideous. As if her horns weren't bad enough
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>>145103784
Nothing.
Presumably because being made of flesh and bone and having to deal with all the problems of basically being a nonexistent person suddenly pop into existence is what symbolizes life, ie: struggles.

Honestly, he complains about wanting to stay in a delusional fantasy, but a being that was never anything but a digital one suddenly wanting to drop everything and be something he's not (a human) is just as bad.
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>>145103924
>full of redditors/tumblrinas
>literally one guy criticizing gil's outfit and everyone else shitting on him
>same with shuten, plenty of posts from a couple guys every time

There sure are some redditors in here, but they're just a vocal minority.
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>>145103784
>He gives 0 incentive why I should want to love someone else

The entire game of CCC, and the various moments of Sakura and Hakuno together having some moments of chemistry. Yes that is insentive to show why they work together. You aren't giving the middle finger to other waifus by picking her, she's just an additional waifu choice in the new game. She's not forced down your throat, and HF doesn't negate the other routes.

Its like how Coco route was the final true route of Ever17, even though she really wasn't anything that anyone would waifu, but that still didn't mean the game was forcing her on you.

Other endings still happened and meant exactly what they meant. No one thinks Coco's route ruined the other choices. Just like how Kohaku's route is the final true route of Tsukihime, but it doesn't negate the other ones either, or force her down you. Its just the ending that reveals the final bits of the game and shit.
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>>145103924
No, actually.
I saw great support for Gil's cloths and despite from when it was removing (except for that one guy arguing it was rightful) as well as people laughing or telling to fuck off when they said something about pedo with Shuten.
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5,2 trillion left
I'm impressed nips still care enough for it to go this fast
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>>145101552
Stupid fucking FEshitter.
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>>145104109
>>145104004
Nice proof

Still no explanation as to why the game would make it a plot point to mention that everytime Hakuno does those servant ends that they get reset and then you expect me to believe that there is a point where they wouldn't get reset anymore - even though there is absolutely nothing in the game that even hints at that possibility for even a moment.

Even the shit you're quoting doesn't fucking say a damn word about that possiblity, all it says is that
>Even after you do the true end you can still do servant ends
As if that means fucking anything when the game already established those are just precursors to the true end.
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>>145104005
That color job is awful, makes the horns look like flesh sausage balloons.
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Who gives a fuck about that shit?
It's all self-serving anyway.
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>>145103930

>Most of Paracelsus' writings were published after his death—and they kept inciting controversy over subsequent decades. He was accused of leading “a legion of homicide physicians,” and his books were called “heretical and scandalous.”
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>>145104058
You're getting drawn into his argument as though its true what he's saying. Its really not, he's hyping up badly how much Nasu gives a fuck you to all the other girls and says you should only pick Sakura, when its not the case.

Other endings are still equally valid, staying in the Mooncell is fine. Sakura is also fine, each ending has meaning.
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>>145104187
>Coco route was the final true end of Ever17
>Didn't mean the game was forcing her on you
Yeah but it did turn Sora's route into uncanon garbage since Takashi canonically never did shit with her in the timeline that Blick Winkel ended up interacting with
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>>145104058
Okay, I don't see how leaving your Servant in CCC helps you grow though. Hakuno doesn't have a goal to be a Hero of the world like Shirou did. I really don't get why not telling BB to fuck off and choosing a Servant isn't there. What you say about Stay Night I get, I've always gotten that. It's just not like that in CCC from what i can tell.


Say I take his advice and some girl comes along and leave my waifu for a 3D. How would make me grow in any way.
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When will Medb get her chance to shine?
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>>145104131
>Having shit taste this bad

>>145104331
It's about her body, not the color
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>>145104187
>Heaven's Feel doesn't negate the other routes
>Only route that changes the title screen
>Only route that completes the progression of the three routes from Childhood (Fate) -> Adolescence (UBW) -> Adulthood (HF)
It's the same shit in CCC

Nero/Tamamo/EMIYA/Gil endings are the same as Fate and UBW. They give you insight into the game's overall message, but they are ultimately just there to fuel extra emotion into you like Shirou killing Saber at the end of HF when in Fate or UBW that would've been fucking insane. They are stepping stones, not endings. The only endings are the ones that are actual endings - aka HF and True/Sakura End.
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>>145104461
Did he not? For her to still have feelings for him instead of just being the AI assistant she was in all the other routes, something of her route had to have passed on.
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>>145104502
I'd tell you not to take those anon's words at complete face value, but you might actually be autistic.
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>>145104232
Here's the original if you want it so much.
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>>145104163
>Presumably because being made of flesh and bone and having to deal with all the problems of basically being a nonexistent person suddenly pop into existence is what symbolizes life, ie: struggles
But I could simulate that with Nero or Tamamo and make it be literally no different. VR man, come on.

>Honestly, he complains about wanting to stay in a delusional fantasy, but a being that was never anything but a digital one suddenly wanting to drop everything and be something he's not (a human) is just as bad
Yeah I don't get the praise for his writing sometimes.
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>>145104502
Because Hakuno's trajectory is growing as a human. They start out as a semi-blank slate and slowly grow and grow and grow.

The final step is actually becoming human, which they do together with Sakura at the end of her route when they leave the Moon Cell and become incarnated in a body
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>>145104324
You're reading way too hard into it trying to justify your headcanon. Nasu doesn't do canon. He doesn't like that kind of limitation.
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>>145104619
even Iskandarnamah is better that her
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>>145104697
Doesn't matter because he can't love her anymore meaning their relationship is just as fucking flawed and garbage as Hakuno winding up with one of the servants.

It's nothing but a side-note in the true end where Takashi, like Hakuno, winds up with someone else entirely. Sora's route is literally the perfect parable to this actually.

Even if you had Takashi X Sora as your OTP, the came tells you "Oh, but that's actually wrong and here's why" in the true end by making it not a valid relationship.
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>>145104619
When we get an event to see which servant can suck the most dick. Never.
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>>145104651
>Childhood (Fate) -> Adolescence (UBW) -> Adulthood (HF)
>Nasu has said that they are simply different aspect of the same character and they are all valid
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>>145105045
Medb's power bonus in such an event would be literally infinite.
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>>145104807
>Doesn't like canon
>Calls one of his endings the True End
wew
e
w

You're also still totally ignoring the in-game admission that the servant endings get reset, no matter how many times you mention timelines or canon you can't escape that fact. Servant ends are literally not even on par with something like Fate or UBW, they are literally just endings that loop back into the story canonically due to a server reset. They are not fucking "Oh well there's this alternate timeline where Hakuno ended up with Nero and that went on forever" because of that reset.
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Medusa/Perseus interaction when?
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>>145104965
Sora route still happened though, and was real. The version of those two that loved each other got their ending together, and Blick Winkle observed that world briefly.

A part of that world did make it into the true ending, since Sora's disc was saved by Takeshi, and she got a real body.
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>>145105184
Again, reading way too hard into it.
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>>145105079
>They're all valid
>Except for the part where Heaven's Feel is the one it ends on, the one that changes the title theme, and the one that encompasses most of the themes including "Being a seigi no mikata is fucking awful" which Nasu drives home constantly
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>>145105195
When they decide to do something interesting with this game.
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So this event starts right after this one ends.

Will you roll for Xuanzang?
Will you roll for Li Shuwen?
Will we reach TEN WEEKS OF NOTHING?
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>>145104801
I get that, but why can't you have the option to take out the psycho bitch and go be human with your waifu as the Servant ending? They say the Mooncell was all powerful or something. It would be more interesting and wouldn't be Sakura being shoved down your throat as a true ending. That, "You're not living your life correctly" shit should stop.
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>>145105275
In the canonical timeline it didn't happen, Blick Winkel observed it but the reality that was created didn't resemble it in the slightest since they have no relationship and will not have any relationship.

It's about as valid or potentially possible as Takashi fucking the original You because she confessed to him before dying from Tief Blau in that one bad end, because Blick Winkel also witnessed that
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So, As I read this I can't help but think if Nasu was a girl sakura would be their self insert.

This makes me think they're a trash person should this be true.

I happen to like Rin, so I don't know how to interpret this subtle rage building inside me.

Why is Sakura such a useless being?
Disregarding the main point of the fate franchise, it's literally making you be a bird to ideals that are objectively worse than what the protag starts with.

Who doesn't want to be a martyr/Hero?
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>>145105184
Guess Melty Blood isn't canon then, since that takes place after Satsuki Normal.
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>>145105424
I'm rolling for Percy
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>>145105424
>TEN WEEKS OF NOTHING?
What?
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>>145105424
>Will you roll for Xuanzang?
>Will you roll for Li Shuwen?
I am rolling for Shuwho if he gets a rateup, so I'll be rolling for Xuanzang by default if so. But who knows what goes on in retarded DW's mind.
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>>145105424
>Will we reach TEN WEEKS OF NOTHING?

What
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>>145105424
Yes
Yes
Yes
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>>145105314
>a theme of FSN is "Being a seigi no mikata is fucking awful"
>actually believing this
Seems like you missed the "it's not wrong" from Shirou, and the conclusion of Archer in both, UBW and Extra CCC.
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>>145105195
next year
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>>145105465
Because your servants had already been deleted and are actually dead the whole time throughout CCC, that's why when they try to cross over to the other side of the Moon the firewall stops them - because they are technically already deleted over there.

>>145105513
Melty Blood isn't canon because Tsukihime isn't even canon anymore until the remake comes out. Also uses a bunch of garbage retconned designs on top of it.
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>>145105491
Yet again, its one guy badly misinterpreting what happened when he likely didn't even play it, but was just pissed off by the synopsis he heard. Pretty much all of what he's saying about Nasu giving the middle finger to everything else and all of it is bullshit.
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>>145105584
>UBW
shit.
>CCC
Non-canon.
Try again.
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>>145105491
Stop falseflagging faggot.
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>>145105195
When pseudo servant Shinji come out
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>>145105491
Because he is bullshitting and baiting just like you probably are.
If not, then actually use your head.
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>>145105424
Nothing you in particular want =/= Nothing
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>>145105584
Both Archer and Shirou abandon it the second they realize they were fuckheads about Sakura, so yeah being a seigi no mikata is awful is definitely a major theme. If it's not wrong then why not stick by it? Oh right because it's actually fucking shit when you're not just stubbornly facing yourself down out of a sense of misguided pride.

Also ignore the fact that Ilya agrees with their decision to abandon it entirely and she's the "hidden" heroine of that route.
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>>145105424
The tears of swimsuit shitter is delicious
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>>145105424
Why shouldn't I?
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What does almost every Extra conversation go badly lately? Pretty much ever since Extella started to come out, and someone attributed the cuck meme in there.
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>>145105424
Oh fuck didn't notice it was 2 weeks long shit.

I don't really want a caster and I already have Li Shuwen so I have absolutely no reason to actually roll for him.
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>>145105636
>>145105764
>>145105292
>Reading way too hard into it
>misinterpreting
>baiting
Tell me what I'm wrong about then, when the game literally tells you that those endings get reset.

Nothing you've said or shown even remotely contradicts that point other than "T-timelines where uh...they still would get reset I guess!"
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>>145105618
Well if I was in Hakuno's position I would honestly kill myself instead of going to live with Sakura or some random whore like that who just met me.
Or at the very least be alone forever instead. I'd rather be alone for eternity before I would settle down with Sakura.

There I wrote a much better ending where you don't give Sakura the D.
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>>145105424
No
No
Yes
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>>145105936
>how does timeflow work guize
>Sakurya resets the universe guize
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>>145105809
But saving Sakura killed hundreds upon hundreds of people. Its objectively a mistake.
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>>145105618
>Melty Blood isn't canon because Tsukihime isn't even canon anymore until the remake comes out
Which is something else entirely and had nothing to do with the point.
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>>145105949
Sakura =/= Sakura

Nero=/=Arthuria

Just because you hate FSN Sakura, don't mix them up like people usually do, and auto hate the new one. She is a different character.
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>>145105910
Ever since everyone filtered cuck and self-insert I needed to find new bait, this seemed like a good place to start.
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>>145105949
Yeah and nobody cares. Don't trigger sakurafags you retard.
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>>145105424
Well, she is cute and I've been in need of a gold Caster since the game started. So maybe.
Li Shuwen no. Still don't have a gold Lancer but I'd rather try to get the one I want.
There's always something to do, even in the intervals between new content.
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>Announce next event early to stop people from focusing on how shitty the raid event is

So obvious
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>>145106050
Her life is worth more than theirs.
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>>145105636
Are you mentioning my post specifically or the the summary that was just posted throughout the thread?

You could literally apply your post to both and it would make sense.

A true end is a true end, not even upset.
Mostly disgusted at how shoehorned it sounds compared to the original vn.
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>>145105513
>>145106064
Show me where Nasu said that servant endings eventually stop getting reset then

There's a source for Melty Blood being Satsuki normal, I don't see any source for the same with servant endings.
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>>145106050
She had big boobs.
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>>145106206
Why not just fucking give people a welfare so they'll shut up?
DW is so retarded.
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>>145105809
Explain how Shirou then sticks to it entirely in Fate when he doesn't fight Archer? He abandons it in HF because of Sakura, but honestly abandoning the one ideal he's held since he can remember for the sake of one girl doesn't mesh with Shirou. Sure, it might be the more human thing to do, but the point of Shirou is that he's distorted and is fundamentally different to a human, that's why he gets a Reality Marble. It doesn't feel like a natural progression of his character, it just feels weird.
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>>145105864
Tears? The event is coming sooner or later. You should go and try better baits little shitter.
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>>145095104
David is the ORIGINAL harem MC. He'll win. He even persuaded EMIYA and Robin to work for him, didn't he? Emiya's doomed.
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>>145106295
>Why
You answered your own question right
>DW is so retarded
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Is he finally going to get a rate up?
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>>145106097
I know she is a different character. She still represents me leaving who I love for retarded reasons.
You can't tell me I should just go oh well "I'll learn to love someone new, my waifu is dead now." That's ridiculous. Am I just supposed to feel sorry for her situation and feel like I should try to love her out of pity? That's even worse.
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>>145106050
It's a mistake if you look at it from a Kerry/Hero of Justice perspective, yes.
From a normal person point of view, the people you care about will always be valued higher than random mooks you don't know nor care about.

HF is all about leaving the hero thing behind and Shirou becoming a normal person instead of a broken man with a massive survivor's guilt complex.
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>>145106262
This guy
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>>145106391
The question is if we'll get Swimsuits or Camelot first. I'll bet on Swimsuits.
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>>145106206
>to stop people from focusing on how shitty the raid event is
>nips give up and Ibaraki not dead
>DW announced that there was welfare but too bad you didnt finish Ibaraki so nothing given :^)
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3634995/Killer-rips-ten-year-old-girl-s-heart-dragging-street-raping-walked-home-school-Brazil.html
Illyafags BTFO
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>>145106320
He sticks with it in Fate because it's never challenged at all, not even once. Arturia even reinforces it just by being there and spouting her own idealist bullshit.

UBW is the first route where it gets challenged, except because it's from Shirou himself so he refuses to abandon it
>I'm ok with losing, but I won't lose to myself
Then the second it gets challenged by someone other than himself he drops it, ie Sakura's dilemma.

The whole point of him abandoning it at that point is the same reason why even EMIYA is shook when he hears about it - because he was so concerned about becoming a seigi no mikata that he didn't realize that this girl who he was always around had been suffering this entire time and he never did fuck all to help her.
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>>145106579
>Prisma
>Camelot
>Swimsuit
>filler
>Filler
>filler
>Babylon
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>>145105809
And you miss the other two routes which gives different answers.
Fate told " don't get too carried away, be a seigi no mikata but always with an objective in mind and never stop pursuing the objective", result was Shirou ending in Avalon.
UBW told " see the true objective you yearn for, go for it while remembering until the end and you will never regret, because it will not be a mistake", result is Shirou surpassing Archer and living his dream life as a hero.

All of them have a different message.
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>>145106642
DELETE THIS
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>>145105949
>Well if I was in Hakuno's position
You're not, your preferences are irrelevant.
>who just met me
This is objectively untrue.
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>>145106543
>becoming a normal person
>the people you care about will always be valued higher
But he killed Arturia in cold blood?
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>>145106543
that doesn't really sound like a normal person
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>>145106703
In the church basement scene Shirou is all 'Nah not my fault' though. After Fate he'll just live normally until he can meet his waifu again iirc.
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>>145106642
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>>145090925
Who's the artist?
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I honestly don't see at all what is wrong with living all day in video games and anime and not getting a 3D and staying loyal to your waifu. I also don't see why people who don't do that and the people who do need to argue with each other about how to live.

Nasu is a shit with shit opinions. Why does anyone care or think they should take his dumb advice? I'm not going to stop loving my waifu. I could be in Hakuno's place for all I care and I still wouldn't go with Sakura regardless of whatever bullshit bad end got written in for me.

It's not like you have to give agree with his opinions and messages to readers.
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>>145106851
He cares about Sakura above all.
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>>145106642
Man, Gil really let himself go after the shame of losing a fight to Japan's only ginger
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>>145106771
Both of those routes happen before HF which means they're objectively valued less.

The fact that HF only opens up after you did the other two is just more evidence that they're just side-story tier shit that are only present because you need them to understand the true message of the game which is in HF, the canon route.
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>>145106851
He knew her for like a week
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>>145106579
Camelot is coming on June 29th. Screencap this.
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>>145106771
>see the true objective you yearn for
Except even before HF, a savvy reader will realize that what Shirou REALLY wants isn't to be a seigi no mikata, and that his ideal is just a means he thinks will lead him to what he truly wants.
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>>145106642
Wow... really makes you think...
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>>145106851
Sakura had bigger boobs.
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>>145106513
You're not leaving your waifu for her

Think of this as a VN, you aren't pissing on Hisui and leaving her when you go down Kohaku route. This is a different time-line entirely from the one where you chose Hisui. Sakura route is exactly that, its a route where you pick Sakura in the end, but not one where you're leaving some other bitch at the alter to do it. Its not one where you say fuck you to everyone else, or your real waifu died so you mysteriously get with some new bitch.

In this ending Sakura is your only girl, you never really dated the other ones, and if you're the type of person who can only handle going down your waifu's route in a VN, then go just down her ending in CCC. Technically Hakuno never really got with anyone in Extra romantically, even if they skirted around it a bit, they weren't dating. If you want an ending where they actually get together then go with the CCC endings for each girl.

If you want to experience Sakura route without any negative feelings, pick Gilgamesh to go with you at the time.
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>>145107010
Sakura never did shit other than force herself into his house to cook some food and watch him high jump, what's your point
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>>145106724
>Prisma
How stupidly obnoxious.
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>>145106941
>Those Revolutionary Girl Mordred ones
I like it.
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>>145106513
>She still represents me leaving who I love for retarded reasons.

What? All Servants but Gil are already DEAD.
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>>145107115
They knew each other for years, stop being retarded on purpose.

>>145107142
Fuck off BL.
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>>145106851
Arturia was corrupted to the point it was impossible to reason with her. There was nothing else that could've been done.
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>>145107051
Exactly, what he wants is to save someone like Kerry saved him and smile as Kerry did. That's something Shirou only realize in UBW, even if you realized it before it.
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>>145107142
Yeah, Prisma event will probably be for the first BD release instead.
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>>145106642
>black magic again
Fucking hell, this shit needs to stop
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>>145106846
Yeah hakuno isn't a self-insert so ultimately it doesn't matter what Nasu chose for their ending to anyone here, it's funny how Nero and Tamamo still love him more than you though even after he immediately hitches up with Sakura after they sacrificed everything for him.
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>>145106846
>This is objectively untrue
I mean why would I want to go with a girl I'm not anywhere near as familiar with or as attached to? It's basically like saying, "Go out and talk to a real girl and try stuff with new people!" kind of a thing. Nasu clearly wants people to stop the waifu thing.
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>>145107208
Except in UBW he gets hung up on being a he/ro more than actually saving himself through saving someone. Meanwhile HF is all about Shirou saving that one person who, in turn, saves him, even without Shirou consciously reaching that realization.
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>>145106771
What Shirou really wants isn't to be a hero of justice. He's just blind and stupid in UBW in general.

In Fate and HF, he realizes he just wants to see the happiness of his important someone first. That's "True happiness" for him. Last Episode and HF route state it all for you.

He wasn't really attached to anyone in UBW to realize what true happiness was.
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>>145107204
>Arturia was corrupted to the point it was impossible to reason with her.

???
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>>145106047
yes
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>>145106513
The better question is why the fuck you'd deliberately go down her route if you care this much, especially when the game specifically gives you control of which ending you want if you do happen to go down that route. You aren't leaving your waifu, you're going with Sakura because you specifically chose her.
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>>145107204
>What is Rule Breaker

>>145107114
Except at the end of the Hisui route there's no server reset that nullifies your choice to be with Hisui until you be with Kohaku. It's a totally different scenario.

The equivalent would be if in Tsukihime you got to the end of Arc, Ciel, Akiha and Hisui's route only for at the very end of Kohaku's route she reveals that at one point you chose all of those girls before her so she sent you into a time machine she made until you coincidentally picked her through freak chance instead of the girl you were actually in love with.
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>>145107306
Nasu confirmed for dual identity of Hideki Anno.
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>>145107191
So?
I still wouldn't replace her. I don't see why I should go love someone else just because my waifu is dead now. That might as well be saying I shouldn't have a waifu and should go get a real girl so I have someone with me instead of being a lone. I would rather be all one than with someone I don't care about.

That's why this whole message of his is stupid.
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>>145107562
Hakuno wasn't in love with any of them. He loved Sakura in that scenario. There's no substitute. Sakura is his lover while Nero/Tamamo are his Servants.
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>>145107402
Because Nasu says that the rightful conclusion is the Sakura/True End. And once you do that end you find out that all the servant endings "Happen, but don't happen" at the same time.

You falling into the delusion of thinking that the servant endings are valid is exactly what Nasu is trying to point out to his readers when he says that the Sakura/True end is the rightful conclusion. That when you're done fucking living in your meaningless fantasy that the actual message and ending of the game will still be waiting for you
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>>145106543

Shirou canonically goes on to do superheroics anyways.

He didn't give up or leave behind jack shit.
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>>145107376
>Being a hero isn't true happiness.
>ignores that routes heroine.
>ignores Shirou objectively become the best person he can be out of the three routes after his fight with EMIYA.
hmmm>>145107383
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>>145107562
Eh and I wouldn't call Sakura a "real girl" when she was a pure virgin with big self sacrifice and never asked for anything while Tamamo and Nero were needy clingy sluts who whined about their ends. Completely opposite to noble and pure Sakura (or even BB when she pulls her heroic sacrifice).
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>>145107562
>why doesn't the story let me romance this other chick when I chose to play this one girl's route specifically
Oh, I see. You just have autism.
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Extra was a mistake.
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>>145107660
And yet Nero and Tamamo love Hakuno more than Guda why? If he doesn't even reciprocate their affection and actively chooses to be with someone else then why does Nasu care about the dynamics of Hakuno's romantic relationship with his servants enough to deny them from Gudao who might actually give them the love they want? Does he just want to fuck his fans and players up that bad by denying them any kind of affection from the characters they enjoy?
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>>145107442
>>What is Rule Breaker
It could sever her connection to Sakura, but what makes you think it could undo the grail mud corruption that has already happened? It worked for Sakura because she wasn't Blackened, she just had an open channel between her brain and All the World's Evil.
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? What if the player's waifu is Sakura? Checkmate nasu
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Anons are you living your life correctly?
Do you have a girl who you love and experience the beauty of reality with?
Are you making your waifu proud with your schooling and gf? Or are you still trying to get noticed by senpai?
Don't give up! You can still do it! Being normal isn't so scary!
Ganbatte!!!
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>>145107869
>What makes you think it could undo the grail mud corruption
What makes you think it couldn't?

You're also totally ignoring the fact that Saber was perfectly reasonable in her dealings with Shirou at that point - she was fighting him because her current master was Sakura and those were her orders. Not because she was some out of control monster like a Berserker gone wild.

If he had severed her contract with Sakura she could've been fine, albeit disillusioned with her own ideals. There was no need to just fucking kill her.
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>>145107851
You were a mistake.
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>>145107935
It's kind of scary that people that think this way would probably kill anyone that didn't live how they think they should live if they could.
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>>145107869
No, Sakura is blackened, the very definition of it. She's just super tuned into it, so it doesn't cause any real complications.
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>>145107865
>>145107239
>Nero says her Valentine's gift can't express even a hundreth of her love for you
Fuck off.
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>>145107383
!!!

>>145107442
Are you suggesting that he Rule Breaker'd Arturia to cleanse her (because that's not possible, a Servant that sunk into the mud is not getting cleaned up) or to then re-establish a contract with her (wouldn't work for a variety of reasons)?
At any rate, he can't trace Rule Breaker without delving into Archer's arm database and he has limited uses before he fizzles. Can't spare any before saving Sakura and destroying the Greater Grail.
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>>145107935
>>>/reddit/
>>>/out/
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>>145107869
Blackened or not Saber's still Saber.

She's not some unreasonable force of nature
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>>145107865

>female character falls in love with one character
>then falls in love with another character

In Japan, they are now officially sluts regardless of any circumstances surrounding their reason for falling in love with anyone else, even if they don't even have memories of the original romance in the first place.

If Nero and Tamamo fell in love with Gudao, then they'd be no better than whores in the eyes of otaku.
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>>145108048
>implying mental hospitals and prison aren't where they send non normies after a certain age
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What if they reveal the person who lands the killing blow gets a free 5*?
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>>145107803
Fate Shirou lived the superhero path completely and whole, and he only found happiness when Saber smiled at him.

And the neutral text was about two idiots who lived their ideals realized that the real happiness was that: watching your loved one smile. HF Shirou realized it sooner.

UBW is a failure because Rin is a failure of heroine. Only chuunifags give a shit about it.
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>>145107376
But that's wrong, he is the Shirou that learns about himself the most. He is the only one that realize what he really wants, not just goes in it blindly.
He knows he will do wrong, that not everyone can be save and that there will times when he will have to make decisions, but he will not abandon his ideal even if errs or the world is harsh.

>>145107370
The point was that being a hero was not what he seeks, being a hero is something that was born afterwards, the means to find what he wants.
His ideal was born alongside as well thanks to Kerry, but that doesn't matter, because even if it is not the origin point, it is still not wrong. Something fake will not make it inferior, that was Gil vs Shirou point, there is no rule that a fake can't surpass the original.
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>>145107869
I'm pretty sure Shirou didn't have enough projections left to make Rule Breaker twice
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>>145108219
>Nero and Tamamo

Too late for that
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>>145108239

Everyone landing that killing blow would already have dozens of 5*s.

Now, if it was a unique 5* Servant that only the top 50 or so players in this event got, then you'd see the war of a lifetime.
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Pretty much all the worst shit of HF could have been avoided if Toki had just handed over Rin instead of Sakura. The world would objectively have been a safer and happier place overall.
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>>145107865
See >>145107828

Nero and Tamamo are sluts, not waifus. Sakura was the waifu to the retard point she gained a soul because of her love for Hakuno and shit. It's not a preaching against waifus, it's slut shaming.
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>>145108038
>>145108197
>she was fighting him because her current master was Sakura and those were her orders.
And if her behavior in UBW is any indication, she isn't going to betray her Master just because she gets Rule Breaker'd.
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>>145089731
>Xuanzang goes to India
>China to India
>some random Jew in the mix
I get that the real Xuanzang did this, but why the hell is David part of this event.
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>>145106703
If it's so wrong why doesn't Shirou abandon it in the first place? The greatest criticism of the whole hero thing comes in UBW, where rather than realise he didn't help one girl when he had no idea she needed it, he's actually confronted with the end result of his life as a seigi no mikata, who despises it and himself so much that he's willing to paradox himself out of existence to end the eternal life being a hero got him. My point is that it being challenged by someone else leading him to drop it is far less compelling than it being challenged by himself, because on one hand it's someone who doesn't truly understand or know him, or how it's going to turn out, and on the other it's someone who understands and knows Shirou more than he does himself, and who knows exactly what that road will lead to. That he overcomes the greatest challenge to his goal and becomes a hero of justice anyway seems to suggest that "being a seigi no mikata is shit" isn't exactly a common theme of FSN, if it's one at all. In two out of three routes which are all equally valid, he doesn't abandon his dream, and it leads to happiness in both cases. Why would it make sense for one route to prove that it's a common theme?
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>>145108378
What makes you say that? You think Rin would just accept her misfortune?
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>>145108378
Is this going to turn into bullshit about how Rin would rule over the Matou household because she's Rin when HF makes it clear she can't endure the same stuff that Sakura did
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>>145108631
I think he means that Rin doesn't have the Hollow element and therefore is much less suited to be a Grail, resulting in less blackening shenanigans if at all.
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>>145108275
He already realizes he was retarded in Last Episode. You should actually read why he's having that flashback.

He's completely self aware and it closes the game as its FINAL MESSAGE that Nasu wanted to give about "the Hero of Justice."
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PROTOTYPE COLLAB WHEN
REE
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>>145108757

>Rin has the same initial reaction that Sakura did to wormrape
>this is somehow proof that Rin is somehow less capable of handling what Sakura went through
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>>145108389
The enemy is even the embodiment of lust who is the counterpart to pure and angelic Sakura.
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Hopefully we get this fucker soon. I have no idea what his personality is like, but I want him.
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>>145108757
I was actually thinking about how the fact that she doesn't have Imaginary Numbers would make her less dangerous to Servants.
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>>145108858
Another time, that's a completely different timeline which hasn't gone through the development of UBW.
It is the finale of Fate that people (and Takeuchi) asked for, not the only thing that matters.
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>>145108527
David is part of the event? Sweet. I should max fou him.
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>>145108990
>embodiment of lust
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>>145108527
It's funny how you didn't even mention that Nasu made Xuanzang a woman for no reason. We really accepted the fact he's hack.
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>>145108462
That was different, Shirou was her original master and Sakura was clearly doing bad shit
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>>145109106
You're ignoring the point: Shirou in Last episode lived his ideals the fullest. It's a fact in text. He still doesn't find true happiness until he's with Saber and the text states what happiness truly is.

Why do you think Nasu even wrote Rin saying after he was done with his childish chuuni journey, he'll go back and settle down with her (even if he didn't show it), to find happiness? Because his journey as hero of justice isn't going to make him happy. That's a FACT.
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>>145105424
So where is the Son Goku?
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>>145108389

Oh my god, it all makes sense now.

>Extra comes out
>Nasu threw some random sluts in to be playable Servants
>when they turn out to be popular, he's so disgusted by it that he goes and writes an entire sequel based specifically around showing the idiot otaku why they shouldn't have a slut as a waifu
>he continues this in Grand/Order, with both sluts being huge sluts that betray Gudao even though they shouldn't even remember Extra
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>>145108070
Nasu canonically said in his blog that she prefers Hakuno to (You) and that Bride is the version that prefers (The player). Just because her Valentines gift didn't capture 1/100th of her love doesn't mean she actually loves you you retard
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>>145109186

>I have no idea what i'm talking about

Their gender isn't specified in the source material.
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>>145109016

Her affinities would just manifest differently. Instead of being dangerous to Servants, she'd probably be a physical monster utilizing all five elements and target Masters instead.
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>>145108918
Fragments collab in the third or fourth quarter of this year. Proper Prototype collab never.
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We need to address these shitposters talking about the VN
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>>145109305
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>>145109373
>lol guise I posted it again lol
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>>145109345
So Nasu is a retard
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>>145108219
By this logic Rin is a whore because she married someone else in HF

Also Arturia loved at least two different people over the course of her life and Japan loves her

Also ignore the fact that both Nero and Tamamo pretend to be in love with you no matter what even though they secretly prefer Hakuno which is even worse

Your argument is bullshit
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>>145109472
But Rider Perseus is on the leak list.
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Think we'll ever get Hitler as a Servant?
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>>145109345
Don't forget Kiara, the enemy and Sakura's foil, is the biggest slut of all and Elizabeth, who sided with BB is pure. Plus all BB's alter egos are pure maidens, devoted waifus, some a single man obsessed yandere.
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>>145109586
He could be added in a filler gacha.
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What if Lucius Tiberius has appared in Fragments to hype up his Camelot debut after a re-writing like America with Edison?
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>>145108605
Because, Shirou won't accept a rejection from himself. It's literally part of the dialogue that he is ok with losing to anyone but himself in regards to this matter.

The second the challenge comes from someone who isn't him, he abandons his ideal almost immediately.
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>>145109657
I don't see him being in that soon. I don't think Arthur will be in Camelot either see as they wouldn't want to waste the husband bucks on a non-event.
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>>145109345
It's Slut Shaming. Look even EMIYA suffered because he slept around, it wasn't ALAYA's doing, but because he was a man slut who wasn't faithful to Seiba and now regrets it.

Gil is pure and faithful to Enkidu so he survives.
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>>145109514
>not all of the shitposters
>implying its not always the same ones
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>>145109653
Well, that's all I care about anyways.
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>>145109617
>hitler
>after retards complaining about nazi gil resulted in no more nazi gil
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>>145109290
>That's a FACT
Yet, Archer goes and says he had a happy life. Not even that, but he is at his happiest when sacrificing in CCC by being a seigi no mikata for Hakuno. Your fact is only what you want to see while ignoring everything else.

Fate has a Shirou that has something distracting him, being a seigi no mikata, while something he wants, is not what he yearns for the most, that's Saber, the star he search for in all his life and finds at the end in Last Episode.
UBW goes full seigi no mikata and settles down after having fulfilled his dream, not to find happiness, but to complete it after having it found in his dream.
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>>145109657
I sort of doubt he would have been added in a rewrite, if he's even in the script at all.
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>>145109186
Lots of Japanese versions of Xuanzang are women. And there are quite a few Xuanzang expies that are women, too.
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>>145109657
>>145109767
Prototype collab with Ayaka welfare for those who asked a HanaKanna Servant.
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>>145109540
Are you denying that Nasu saying that Nero doesn't love the player unless it's Bride is literally in clear cut canon on Nasu's blog? The blog that released at the same time as the Valentines event?

I doubt Nasu just fucking "forgot" what Nero's valentines lines said, so what he said on his blog is still valid.
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>>145109768
>>145108389
>slut shaming
Who invited tumblr here?
Nobody else cares about things like this or twist logic so much to believe things that no one ever said.
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>>145109436
>female monk
>in the 7th century
Is that bait?
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>>145109549
>Also ignore the fact that both Nero and Tamamo pretend to be in love with you no matter what even though they secretly prefer Hakuno which is even worse
Did you miss the part where Tamamo's only reference to her feelings about Hakuno are in the FUTURE tense?
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>>145109548
Slut shaming is a good thing. Fate needs more slut shaming.
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>>145109827
>Archer goes and says he had a happy life.

Never. Please post the screencap. He was satisfied, not happy. Last Episode Shirou was satisfied too, but he wasn't happy.

You're stupid. Seigi no Mikata itself is a distraction to Shirou. He doesn't want those ideals, he's using those ideals as a clutch to fill his emptiness and be happy through them. It works to a certain point, but doesn't work fully well.
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Hopefully the event has at least a full gacha of Servants, all these events with only one new 5* are annoying. 3* Red Hare or something would be fine.
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>>145109436
But it is?
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>>145106492
Use your eyes, retard.
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>>145110031
>Oh I'll NTR you but don't worry not yet
Also there's no reason why her feelings would be any different from Nero, and nasu is on record as saying that she prefers Hakuno
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>>145109958
>implying you can't choose to self insert as
>implying you can't self insert as both
>implying Nero doesn't love everyone and anyone if they love her
My god it's really like you have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>145110185
>Red Hare
>Grand Rider
>3*
Unlikely.
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>>145110014
>>145110198

>Due to the vague nature of Sanzang's gender within the original Japanese rendition of the story, it's not uncommon for a female Sanzang to appear in Japanese created media.

Educate yourselves.
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What happened to 4chancup. Did we win?
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>>145110031
It doesn't matter when her feelings are, because she still prefers Hakuno

It's not like you had Tamamo in Extra be like "Oh by the way there was this other person I loved a long time ago so this relationship will be difficult for me", no it was straight to being on Hakuno's dick after a few weeks without saying a word
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>>145090036
I'd keep mine in second form IF I HAD ONE
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>>145109895
Lots of japanese versions of Guan Yu are huge breasted women, it doesn't make it ok.
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Two chinese guys and... David?
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>>145110326
Journey to the West is a Chinese novel you mong. The Japs fucking up their translation doesn't change that Xuanzang is a boy in the story.
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>>145110317
Why horse be Rider no rider?
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>>145110295
Nasu literally says that she loves Hakuno more, so I'm not sure why you're even bothering to argue still.

Also CCC Nero literally chooses to love Hakuno over her desire to have a harem/other lovers, so she wouldn't love Guda in that way if she still loves Hakuno - which according to Nasu she still definitively does
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>>145110317
>this delusional
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>>145110424
The Chinese are just Asian Jews.
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>>145110405
what are they gonna do? rise from the dead and complain about it? who gives a shit fag
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>>145110405
I'm pissed that Xuanzang is a woman but Guan Yu is a garbage character whose best renditions have all been female so he's a different case.
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Extra is literally responsible for 90% of shitposting lately, what a fucking mistake
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>>145110424
DW realized people love using David, so at least they'll include an useful Servant we have.
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>>145110509
>>145110506
>Greatest mount of all time
>The pinnacle of the equine species, mankinds historic rides
>Not Grand Rider
We don't even have any other possible candidates.
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>>145110621

This, Guan Yu was a shitty general in real life and completely undeserving of the title God Of War. That's why people genderbend him, because at least that way he can be useful by being a cum dump.
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>>145110295
You can't self-insert as a character that isn't a self-insert you retard, like Hakuno
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>>145110326
>Due to the vague nature of Sanzang's gender within the original Japanese rendition of the story
kek it's just japanese people being retarded then because Journey to the west was inspired of the story of a real monk and he was a guy.
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Literally who cares that a historical author character is a woman?

It's literally not the main character of Journey to the West.
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>>145110405
It's more than okay
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>>145110794
Except Hakuno is a self-insert.
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>>145110486
>>145110806

Believe it or not, If you want to see live performance of JTTW, expect you'll see Sanzang portrayed by female actress. I'm not joking, you'll see female Sanzang in every and any live performance despite there are many sources state Sanzang's real gender from original story.
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Zhuge Liang should have been genderbent because Zhuge a shit.
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>>145109958
>Are you denying that Nasu saying that Nero doesn't love the player unless it's Bride
That's not actually quite what he said. His exact words were that Nero remembered Extra, while Nero Bride doesn't and only loves Guda.

>>145110227
>Also there's no reason why her feelings would be any different from Nero
Yes there is, they're two very different people with two very different opinions on love.

Nero is polyamorous and a hedonist, so there's really no issue for her if she loves Hakuno and she loves Guda too. If that's not your thing, fine. It's not really my thing either, but not enough of a deal-breaker that I wouldn't fuck her.

Tamamo is very much a monogamist, though, and she's wrestling between two different, conflicting sets of memories. On one hand are the memories of the Extra Tamamo, who fell in love with Hakuno, which simultaneously feel like her memories yet feel like a dream. Then there are her new memories, that she made with Guda since she was summoned by Chaldea, and she definitely has feelings for you (see her Interlude). But the conflict between the two sets of emotions makes her uncomfortable, even though by her nature this Tmamao is going to stick with Guda.
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>>145110326
desu almost every version of Sanzang I know in games/animus is a girl (And a crossdresser in one) so I kinda thought he was a girl from the get go
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>Hakuno is a self insert
>Nero and Tamamo slobber on (You)r cock
>Gudako is a self insert
>Nero and Tamamo slobber on (You)r cock
>these two situations somehow become NTR
kek
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>current year
>still get triggered for genderbend in FATE

Also its a fucking mobage
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What's up with the gold EXP costing so much in comparison to other events?
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>>145100606
>WAAAH a Servant wins because of his NP

Damn fucking right. Arthur fights gimped all the time because assholes are scared of him. How good would Gil be without his Vault? Arthur almost doesn't even need to get serious unless he needs his NP to take out OP bastards because he's more OP than they are.

Did you forget Arthur IS the strongest one in Proto.
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>>145110039
>>145110917
Reminder that any dude is going to get NTR'd by Sousou because Sousou takes Kan'nu whenever she wants
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>>145110794
Self-inserting is simply strongly empathizing with a character
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>>145110948
His exact words were
>THIS TIME she prefers (the player)
Which means the Nero that existed in the game did not prefer the player, ie the fact that she experienced Extra means she loves Hakuno and not you
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>>145110554
Nothing I just said Nasu was a hack and you are the one trying to defend him.

>>145110621
Still that's retarded if he's a shitty character don't use him to begin with or make him interesting. That's what a decent writer would do I think.
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>not enjoying the game the way it's meant to be played
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>>145109754
Which is my point. That's genuinely bad. Archer is the one person in the world who absolutely knows for sure what will happen and what being a hero of justice leads to, which by definition makes it the single greatest challenge to Shirou's ideal when Archer is the one to do it. Archer is irrefutable proof of what is entirely possible, and before Shirou started to fight Archer, something that was quite likely for Shirou to become.

That he'll reject the ideal that defined him entirely for so long just because someone came along and indirectly challenged it isn't good writing, and it's not an absolute condemnation of the hero of justice thing. That he faces the greatest condemnation of his ideal and comes out with more certainty to live by it is far more telling about the story's attitude towards that ideal than him abandoning it for the sake of a girl he didn't realise he needed to save.
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>>145111059
White cis scum kill yourself
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What kind of event will this new one be? I'm hoping for something like Honnouji
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Aoko never ever.
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Which node of Fuyuki is best for bone farming?
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>>145111059

>male master
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>>145111030
Sousou never actually gets Aisha though. If anything you should be worried about being NTRed by Zhang Liao
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>>145110948
>Tamamo's interlude
You mean the one where she puts on her same fake waifu act that she'd do for anyone which doesn't prove shit?

>>145110985
Hakuno is not a self-insert, they are clearly defined and a vehicle for Nasu to shit on self-inserters
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>>145111059
>Male master
Obvious shitposting
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>>145111059
How did you take a picture of your own phone?
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>>145110508
We are Hakuno though. The whole true end of CCC is them stepping out of the virtual world and becoming a real person, right? And what happens once we, the player, achieve that true end? We step out of the world of CCC, the virtual game world, and become a real person. Hakuno's journey is a metaphor for us playing the game, so Hakuno is us.
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>>145110947
Genderbent Zhuge's are also shit though. Turning him into Waver was legitimately the only way to make him decent.
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>>145110782

Oh look a typical ROTKfag.

Even Noah is better candidate.
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>>145111038
No more like putting yourself there and imagining yourself in his place.
There is literally nothing wrong with that.
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>>145111136
>>145111223
>not self-inserting to fug your servants
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>>145111237
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>>145111237
>not having a camera built into your chest Edison-style
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>>145111223
>pretending to be a girl in a game
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>>145111050
If your options are A and B, saying you don't prefer A doesn't actually mean you prefer B. It can also mean both are equal to you.
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The one thing that never seems to change is that Nero and Tamamofags are incredibly autistic.
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>>145111059
>Male Master
>Not 120
>Atalanta

I beat you don't have a perfect streak either
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>>145110945
The latest theater performances of JttW in Japan were done by the TV actor, who is a dude.
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>>145110987
>genderbends guys
>keeps all girls as girls
>never genderbends girls
It's just lame, I want some surprise. It's all fucking predictable.
I was half-expecting Billy the Kid to be a female too, because he was always described as being small and slender.
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>>145111113
>>>/tumblr/
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>>145111147
It has been a while, who was Zhang Liao again
And Sousou gets Aisha multiple times, in bed even.

>>145111371
>projecting
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>>145096929
He finally won an arm wrestle.
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>>145111448

There would need to be good female legendary heroes for there to be any worth genderbending
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Cao Cao when?
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>>145111204
>You mean the one where she puts on her same fake waifu act that she'd do for anyone
By bond 2, at the absolute minimum it isn't ENTIRELY fake anymore.
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>>145111298
>Noah
>on the leak list
Right
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>>145111317
What?
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>>145111541
How about Mulan?
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>>145111586
Nothing, I'm shocked as well.
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Post Stars.
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>>145111541
It just goes to show that women are fucking useless.
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>>145096289
>Atalanta
>flat

Anon, the sprite lied to you, she has tits.
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>>145111462
>forgetting based Chouryou
And Sousou never gets Aisha, the self insert impregnates her.
Unless you are talking about the anime which is ass in comparison.
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>>145111541
Arachne would actually make for a very interesting female-to-male genderbend. It would add another layer to Athena getting butthurt over a mortal thinking they're better at weaving than she is.
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>>145111578
>FGO2
>Having leak list
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>>145109823
Elaborate further
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>>145111409
Give me a break friend, I started playing barely over a month ago.

Also
>Atalanta
>not top cute
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>>145111727
You know they'd make the same mistakes again.
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>>145111896
>has NR
kill me
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>>145111896
>newfag redditor
Stop posting already faggot you're bringing shame on all male masters.
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>>145111896
>Wasn't around for the Valentine's event
Oh boy, you're going to like this.

>────You can have this. Feel free to use this against me during a footrace.
>......Are you prepared though? You should know the consequence for defeating me.
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>>145111576
still a far cry from totally loving you for real like she does for Hakuno
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>>145111394
Nero doesn't express any affection towards guda aside from one line in Valentines where she says her chocolate doesn't properly capture her emotion

Meanwhile she was all over Hakuno's dick 24/7 showering them with affection and words of love

It's pretty obvious she loves Hakuno more
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>Shitwain jobbed to Tiberius
>meanwhile Sakurai is forced to wank Saber Lancelot because new character
GAWAINCUUUUCKS
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>>145112098
>I'll use buzzwords, that'll show him for sure!
I'm fairly sure I've been longer on 4chan than you, unless you are an originalfag.

>>145112121
Well, fuck.
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>>145112213
It's only bond 2 and she didn't instantly fall in love with Hakuno either.
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>>145112468
Even at Bond 5 she doesn't show you any affection in her lines so she clearly doesn't give a single fuck about you
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Does Grail Iri want a 3some with you and Kerry?
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>>145112358
It was late, fuck off.
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>>145112668
>Kerry
>not Ilya
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Stop bullying Gawain, bullies.
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>>145112541
The My Room translations for Tamamo are pretty clearly missing any bond lines, and her final ascension response is pretty affectionate.

>To show such kindness to a villain like me...I'm so happy. It's almost like a dream as ephemeral as the morning dew. Parting ways would be painful, wouldn't it?
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Reminder that Gawain became a true and flawless knight after being humbled in life, while Lancelot turned into a maddened monster who only wishes to murder his own king because he was never punished - what a fucking bollocks motivation
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>>145112795
When will we get him? I want him and Bedivere, Camelot can't come soon enough.
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>>145112887
Everyone but Melvin knows lancelot is a shit character.
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>>145112795
it's alright

Proto Gawain's prolly different from the one we know anyway
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>>145112358
>>145112887
Why do you assume the Prototype Rounds are the same as the FSN Rounds?
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>>145112887
>what a fucking bollocks motivation
He's a hard M, it's the only thing that gets him off. He had the chance for the biggest orgasm of his life but Saber blueballed him so he went insane.
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>>145112926
He'll definitely be in Camelot, so probably a month.

If he's not in Camelot, I will die.
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>>145112883
Her bond lines are on the JP wiki, there's no waifu lines or any real affection expressed. There's no indication she loves you in the way she loves Hakuno or anything close to that level

The Valentines line is literally "Oh I have to keep putting on this act for you even though I will find someone I actually love later, this is awkward"
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>>145112795
Talk shit, get hit.
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Feels like everyone is starting to remove the event CEs already.
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>>145112887
No need to state the obvious anon.
Gawain was already an example of knighthood before, he became better after he realized the one thing he did bad in life and learned from like a true gentleman instead of denying he ever did wrong like Lancelot.
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>>145112887
Funny thing is that Lancelot had already suffered a good of madness in the Arthurian cycle. He went crazy and fucked off into the woods for a year or two. The whole thing about being angry because Arturia didn't punish him is just some crap made up so he could finish off his confrontation with her by saying she's the absolute best and that she's not to blame.
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>>145113054
>when it benefits Gilfags, they assume Proto Knights are the same except Arthur and Mordred
>now when one of their allies is down, they say the Knights aren't the same
JUST

So Lancelot is still UNRIVALED in Proto and the strongest? Good.
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>>145113209
Who was in the wrong here?
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>>145113210

Everybody stopped giving a fuck once they realizied there was no welfare servant.
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>>145113336
Nobody mentioned Gil.
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>>145113347
Lol, you're going to be so wrong in a day or two.
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>>145112887
Niggerlot is just a frechwhore OC donut steel after all
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>>145113414
Why are you replying to a shitposter?
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>>145112795
>>145113138
This
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>>145112887
>jobbed to Vortigern
>jobbed to Tiberius
>can only match Lancelot for 6 hours a day
JUST
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>>145113468
Stupid whore poster.
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>>145113497
>jobbed to tiberius
Everyone probably would desu he is a TRUE ROMA
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>>145113336
>projecting for no reason

Scared of Gawainfag,Melvin?
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>>145113468
>His voice and tone are clear and refreshing, and he would never insult his enemy even when they are down.

He was only telling the truth.
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>>145098031
The real life Xuanzang was a man though. The one in the fictionalized novel of his journey to India might have a more "vague gender", but i haven't read it so i can´t say.
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>>145113468
Man Galatine looks bad
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>>145113497
>jobbed to sakurai wank
no shit
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>>145113683
Bullshit.
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>>145113468
Touch the nephew again and die
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>>145113683
>implying he doesn't passive-aggressive jabs at anything and anyone, even if he doesn't mean to insult
Only way for him to learn is to get shat on until he gets the message.
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>>145113497

>Gawain only took a single flesh wound every day when he wasn't buffed by Numeral
>Lancelot explicitly had to go full defense while Numeral was active
>only after countless days of fighting in a row and wearing Gawain down with tiny injury after tiny injury does Lancelot finally score a good hit on Gawain and defeat him
>somehow this means he couldn't match Lancelot
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>>145113805
>His voice and tone are clear and refreshing, and he would never insult his enemy even when they are down. Even if his opponent is lacking in power or ability, Gawain courteously engages with them out of consideration for their desire for battle and their determination.

Check the materials yourself, it's clear that Gawain was only being an honest gentleman.
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>>145113826
Bring it. I killed him 5 times over.
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How is it possible that one of the shittiest paladins of Charlemagne is a better knight than have the Round Table members?
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>>145113497
>jobbed to Vortigern
He and Saber defeated him together though, he only lost hope once and got up in his feet after Saber motivated him.
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So is Proto Cu an entirely different guy or just Cu's pre-evolution?
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>>145113795
>Saber Lancelot will have Sakurai wank
GAWAINKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>145113912
In Nasuland they fought only for one day.When the sun set Lancelot defeated him.

That said Lance was unable to return to Camlann even then,while Gawain was,which implies he was in a pretty bad condition himself
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Good tips to beat the 3BP?
I've never even tried it, but i don't think i will be able to beat it.
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>>145113764
Do people even give a shit about the historical Xuanzang? I always thought most people knew the Journey to the West version better. Sort of like how Edmond Dantes was based on an actual guy that no one really knows about.
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>>145113683

Just because his brain doesnt percieve it as insult doesnt mean it isnt.
RT knights is autistic afterall.
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>>145113953
Cu when he was younger but from the Proto universe. He is Cu, but at the same time he isn't the younger Cu from the main universe.
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>>145113912
>all this headcanon
>when what actually happened is Gawain had his 3 hours of Super Saiyan, did absolutely nothing and proceeded to get fucked after the buff ran out
JUST
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>>145113935
>shittiest
He wasn't the shittiest in the original tales though...And that just goes to show you how Charlemagne is a better king and Roland a better knight. Saberfaces when?
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>>145114049
Lancelot wasn't allowed to return to Camelot. He wanted to and Gawain had Saber tell him to fuck off.
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>>145114240
>>145114240
>>145114240
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>>145114183

Fucking read Le Morte D'Arthur jetfag

It was massively biased against Gawain throughout the entire story and even still he matched Lancelot day after day.
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>People seriously get butthurt if you play as the male master
Chill the fuck out.
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>>145114049
>>145113912
>>145114183
No version is true, we don't know how the fight went at all.
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>>145114319
More like the Gudao butthurt never ceases. You guys are worse than Meilvon.
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anyone still working on servant bonds?
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>>145114049
>That said Lance was unable to return to Camlann even then,while Gawain was,which implies he was in a pretty bad condition himself
>this amount of headcanon
Lancelot injury on Gawain was so bad that Gawain jobbed to Mordred thanks to it.

Meanwhile Lancelot never died to Gawain headcanon injuries. If you are saying Gawain injured Lancelot, you are saying Gawain without Numwral was easily beaten by a badly injured Lancelot, and Gawain with Nuneral was unable to get the job done in 3 straight hours against a badly injured Lancelot.
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>>145114508
Wait, so Lancelot beat an injured Gawain? What a prick.
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>>145114460
I'm just saying it doesn't really matter.
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>>145114290
>not Nasuverse
So Arthur is a girl?

>>145114450
We know 2 things

1. Lancelot couldn't injure Gawain with Numeral so he waited for it to run out
2. Gawain went down in one hit after Numeral ran out.
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>>145114572
More like Lancelot spared Gawain. The injury allowed Mordred to kill Gawain. Lancelot could have killed Gawain if he wanted, but he let the shitter leave, yet the shitter still refused to let Lancelot help against Mordred rebellion. Gawain during his dying moments accepted that Lancelot joining the fight would have made the difference.
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>>145114709
>Gawain went down in one hit after Numeral ran out.
That's also not true, we don't know if they fought more or if there were other small hits to Gawain.
We only know that after one decisive blow Lancelot was able to escape and Gawain continued on to help Arthuria even if he was in no condition to fight. Then he died against Mordred due to the injury.
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>>145114465
Yes, i'm close to getting Jeannu and Retard Cat to level 7.
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>>145115067
Except it is. Rani said Lancelot waited for it to run out to strike what became a fatal injury. It was literally 1 hit and it was over.
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>>145114993
>Gawain during his dying moments accepted that Lancelot joining the fight would have made the difference.

And Lancelot accepted in his life after Camelot and his existence as a servant that he should have been punished and that he therefore fucked up and failed his king.

Neither was perfect, and the fall of Camelot in every version is almost always the decline of a Kingdom due to the failings of its paragons.
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>>145115193
Yeah, but it doesn't anything about only receiving one strike, just that one strike after Numeral run out was the decisive one.
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>>145115768
Lancelot was aware hitting Gawain with Numeral was pointless. That's why he waited. Then after the buff was gone, he struck.

He waited to strike what became a fatal injury. That implies he only struck once.
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>>145116045
>That implies
Show me the citation that says explicitly that was the case.
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>>145116045
I see what you are getting at, well, I will leave it like that. I don't remember Rani's conversation that well.
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>>145116045
>That implies
HEADCANON
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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