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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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>>145082042
First for Oedon Chapel Dweller
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If I roll a new character specifically to use the stake driver, would you laugh at me
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Talk me into using W H E E L
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>>145082143
>tfw chalice Bloodstarved Beast killed me 12 times
>but I did Abhorrent Beast in one try
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>>145082215
Yes
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>>145082276
>Now I will show you mercy. You will die, forget the dream, and awake under the morning sun.

You're not supposed to remember.
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>>145082317
How does that work?
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Does anyone have that picture of the hunter holding the unborn child like a plate of pasta taking a whiff
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I am the host of this Nightmare.
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>>145082525
"forget the dream" is not meant in a literal way.
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Here comes Lucifer posting the same shitty, non-interesting, non-informative, non-comical, useless webms once again.

Why do you constantly post these here and in /dsg/ like you're helping anyone out?
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>>145082556

FUCK ANTIDOTES, that's how

Also he ate my face three times because I kept trying to parry his grab

The Abhorrent Beast was super easy, even if I did waste 20 bullets trying to figure out his parry timings

(it turns out he doesn't have parry timings)
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>manlets will never appreciate
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>>145082601
>The doll referring to the dream as a fond, distant memory is literal
>Gehrman saying you'll forget the dream isn't
>Because I say so
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>>145082723
Why didn't you just use a blood cocktail after like your 3rd death to BSB?
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>>145082572
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>>145082809
Because it makes more sense, everyone remembers the dream.
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>>145082873
still got that fresh-from-the-queen smell
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>>145082873
Thanks dude that's one spicy fetus
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>>145082835

YOU CAN DO THAT?
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>>145082601
why? based off the doll's prayer?

Seeing how the feeling of the hunt the bell talks about easily falls into that I'm not so sure
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>>145082889
Don't you think if everyone remembered that they'd be like "oh fuck this nigga's Gherman's newest recruit, fuck this shit I'm out."
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>>145082978
>why? based off the doll's prayer?
Yes. Also based on the fact that Djura, Eileen and Alfred remember the dream.
Eileen remembers the doll too.
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>>145082889
Eileen and Djura do. There's no evidence for anybody else remembering it, and given how most of them end up staying in Yharnam and going insane it's more likely most of them don't.
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>>145083024
Eileen remembers the doll, at least.
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>>145083098
>There's no evidence for anybody else remembering it
Alfred tells you that you have to find your own way after he kills you.
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>>145083213
I don't see how you get that he definitely remembers the dream from that.
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>>145083272
It means he knows that you will revive.
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>>145083181
Eileen remember a lot, I think. She's a sharp broad, and considering her arsenal, it's safe to say she probably knew Gherman even before the Hunter's Dream came to be.

But if you get to the point where she ends up fighting you, she's gone completely off the deep end: so desperate to end the hunt that she's willing to kill anything that looks like a hunter, even if you'll just keep coming back for seconds.
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Did Alfred become a hunter because Crowsteel kept bullying him and stealing his sperm?
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I can't into it, also roll
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>>145083431
Alfred started out as a Hunter and then became an Executioner, so who knows.
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>>145083457
That chart's way too static. Some of the options should be additions of various numbers, not just strictly tied to one of three digits.
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>>145083431
>become a hunter
become an executioner*
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>>145083096
The thing is, none of that conflicts with forgetting the dream being literal.

They all remember the feeling of the hunt where they can't die. Eileen refers to her past immortality, Alfred refers to your immortality. Djura knows he once dreamed, and that wouldn't be hard to figure out seeing how many dreamers there are, and how he too remembers what that hunt felt like. Even details like the doll can make it outside the dream, since it's not like even your player is forbidden from speaking about it at all.

The only thing that would is the doll's prayer, which isn't specific enough.
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Is the Tiny Tonitrus even any good?
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>>145084114
not as good as the glove
tbqh there's no spell in all of soulsborne that's as good as the glove
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>>145084114
Yes, I use it all the time.
It's very effective against multiple enemies.
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>>145084184
DS1 Pursuers are just like Glove, except they can oneshot you.
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>>145084372
They can't be fired at a rate of one per second though
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>>145084372
Pursuers are slower and patched into oblivion. Glove has some pretty good combos too, especially with blacksky, and can be used as a heal punisher in some instances.
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>>145084114
It serves it's purpose. The Glove and ACB are better, but if you've got a beckoner who's constantly drawing aggro then running to the other side of the arena and you want to conserve bullets then it's not too shabby, which I've found happens a lot with Ebrietas, and she's weaker to it so bonus.

If the Living Failures and Celestial Emissary weren't already pushovers it would be greatly useful for those fights, but as it stands you can do them with a +0 weapon blinded and spinning on your dick anyway.
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Why is there so much babies in this?
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>>145086223
the loss of a child and the search for a surrogate is one of the biggest themes of the game
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>>145086223
Miyazaki wants ENB out of the fanbase
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>>145086223
Because Oeden can't keep his otherworldly cummies to himself.
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>>145086317
was disappointed with his lack of reaction to Oceiros
would've helped if they didn't cut the baby getting crushed and dying in agony sfx from the game
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>>145082042
This pic is giving me a boner that I cannot understand

Do I need more Insight?
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>>145087779
It's more likely that you have too much
Check out your frenzy bar if you fap
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Fuck this, can I get help with BSB? Fucking labia for a face.

Password is fugg
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>>145088589
Old Yharnam one? I'll ring
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>>145089003
yee
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>>145089139
what are you even talking about
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>>145089113
Ringing.

strafe left a lot
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>>145089139
Someone's mad about not getting invited.
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short and sweet

ty anon
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>>145082809
Based on the way other NPCs speak of it, they have been released from the dream without losing their memories. I'm with anon that Gehrman's meaning there is "you'll no longer be bound to the dream" moreso than "you're gonna wake up hung over as fuck man".
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>>145083805
>their memories don't conflict with losing all memory
>they just remember it

wut
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How the hell do I make that jump to the old workshop?
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>>145090376
I have such a hard time with it every playthrough I dread it more than most bosses.
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>>145090376
Easy, get on the bridge and roll towards the rope.
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>>145090262
read the post again dude
They remember the feeling of the hunt, not the dream itself. They have access to enough information outside the hunter's dream to know that they were once dreamers, without actually remembering their own individual experience in the dream.
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>Mercyless watchers
>Maneater boar
>Undead gigant
>Brainsucker
What am i doing to myself? Is there even any point in playing fucking Chalice dungeons?
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>>145090926
To git gud.
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>>145090376
Just walk in and slowly walk off left. You only need like 20 vit to make the fall.
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>>145091314
The fall dmg actually scales with your vit so you can always hit the first ledge and live
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>>145084935
I'd like to add that Tony Tonitrus is not as effective against Ebrietas as ACB, or the gloves even, assuming you have points into Arc.
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>>145091862
ZIPPITY ZAP WAKE UP MOTHERFUCKER I'M DYING TO HAVE SOME DISCO PARTY TIME
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Why is DOLL so TALL?
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>>145092456
snu snu
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>>145092041
Against large bosses Tiny Tonitrus is way better than Augur.
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>>145092456
she's not tall, you're just a manlet
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Does changing your characters build proportions affect their height as well? I just got summoned on a new-ish character and I could swear I was taller than the other two guys.
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>>145092456
A. Miyazaki tends to make characters of interest larger than the player character (see any souls game ever)
B. Gehrman randomly made her so, for no discernible reason
C. Doll is somehow related in some way to Pthumerians
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>>145092456
>Why doll so tall

She's not, you're just a manlet.
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>>145092713
only the size of your head should have any bearing on the height
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>>145092161
ANON WHAT THE FUCK
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>>145092852
He's big because he's turning into a beast, notice his arms
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>>145092727
I don't know about C, but A is almost certainly the case.

Maria isn't super tall though, is she?

also
>(see any souls game ever)
Unless my memory fails me Demon's Souls didn't do this at all. Even the enemies weren't all 8-foot tall knights/soldiers.
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>>145092456
She is prime mothering height.

Also she's a doll of Maria, who was a relative of Annalise, who is related to the Pthumerians
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>>145092990
Yeah Demon's Souls is the only game where humans aren't two meters tall.
You also can't get downscaled versions of the armor sets that giant characters wear.
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>>145092928
That's what you get from putting a fork into the power socket
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>>145093197
False King allant?
>>145092541
So it does have one use. It's better than augur against big enemies
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>>145093847
>False King allant?
He's a demon
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>>145093847
Sure, but everyone else is normal height.

Compare to BB and Dark Souls III where everyone but the human NPCs is twice as tall as you. at least in BB they're half-beast, in DS3 they're tall because fuck you
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>>145092568
>>145092852
>Implying

You mean womanlet, like I'd ever have a not female hunter.
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basking in the afterglow of a 6 hour session after an extended dry spell with DaS3 and W3

try as I might, I just can't like the Witcher, I got all the way up to defend Kear Morphine and my heart sank when they asked me to ''assemble your allies'' fuck you I want more contracts I don't care why is there so much bullshit in this game that does nothing

That's something I like about Bb, they chiseled the souls mechanics until it felt like you were fighting like a hunter, then built it up from there, you're able to role play a specific role with no unnecessary bloating.
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>>145094071
Does this mean you're finally gonna shut the fuck up about W3?
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>>145094071
Besides the everything, the best part of BB over the other Souls games is they trimmed all the bloated shit off. No RES/Luck/splitting Endurance into two stats. The entire Dark Souls series is full of ideas that were clearly never finished, but BB overall feels far more slick.

They still didn't do away with durability though even though it's a less important game mechanic than the battery life of your controller...
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>>145094184
I dunno do you think you'll ever stop suckling dick?
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>>145094506
No.
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>>145092456
The hunter is just tiny. Everyone in Yharnam towers over him.
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Which is a better starting weapon saw spear or saw cleaver?
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>>145095897
Spear for skill cleaver for str.
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>>145095897
Cleaver is love and life but spear is better if you're going for skill and/or arc
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>choose a name

God fucking dammit this still gives me a lifetime trouble

How the hell you finally manage to decide what name your hunter gets? How you pick your names?
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>>145096181
Sometimes something comes to mind and just fits, other times I use names I've used before because it's simpler.

>>145096204
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>>145096181
I make the face and decide an appropriate name that fits him and the setting.
Examples are Faust, Theodore, Edgar, Johann.
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>SRRC spamming
>Get Pthumeru Layer 1 story
>Boss gate is locked
>See echoes rolling in quickly, figure he is at rats
>He is not at rats
>Host dies
S-sorry...
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>>145096204
No reposts from the thread the other day, guys!
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>>145095897
Spear looks way better, has better skill scaling and does serrated damage in both forms so go with that.
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>>145095897
In general? Spear.
Depends on what you want to combo it with though as they scale differently.
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>>145096181
Random name generator set to Gaelic names that I sometimes tweak a little.
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>>145096204
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>>145096204
>didn't yet get Maria's hat for this scene
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>>145096181
author names, musician stage names and song titles, firearm and instrument names, old movie characters or oonomatopoeias

And/or add a title to the name, Officer ____ or Outlaw ____ for example.
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If I beat the game more than once without ever doing all the chalice dungeons, does that make me some kind of chump?
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>>145097079
It makes you a gay
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>>145092990
>Maria isn't super tall though, is she?

Yeah she's noticeably taller than the hunter in her intro cutscene.

That just makes bullying her even cuter.
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>>145094023
The Good Hunter being a Male is the connon choice.
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Church pick with thrusting gems any good? Only transformed getting full benefit seems kinda iffy.
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>>145092990
>>145097246
She's noticeably taller in general
Bitch looks like an amazonian dyke
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>>145097332
Use thrusting gems only if you spend most of the time twohanding it.
Most of the one handed attacks don't do thrust damage.
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Didnt even know this game had a general. I've been psoted in dead as fuck /ps4g/

Bought this game yesterday. Put in about 3-4 hours before I made it to Father Gillroy or whatever his name is. He killed me but I did have some success shooting him and them using R2 attack.

I reckon I'll need to farm some blood echoes so I can buy bullets and other consumables before I try to fight him again. I upgraded most of my armor. I'm rolling with the axe and pistol. I'm a military veteran. I have some blood shards but didnt realize you also need blood echoes to upgrade your weapon, so again it looks like I have some farming to do.

Also this is the first time I've used a custom profile for me Elite headset. The "bloodborne" voice when you select it is fucking dope.

Gotta admit this game is living up to the hype. The only soulsborn ive played was DeS and thats cause it was on Plus. I never got into it.
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>>145095897
The cain
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>>145097489
You're in for a good time.
Remember that upgrading your weapon is always better than upgrading your level, and that pretty much everything is viable, so don't be afraid to experiment with various weapons.
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>>145096181
Usually I'll base the names on names of characters I like. I try to pick obscure sources though so everyone I run into doesn't immediately recognize "omg it's GUTZ from BARSARK!".

In practice this just results in all of my characters being named after characters from IVAN

>>145096204
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>>145097489
>/ps4g/
>Father Gillroy
>farming
>upgraded armor

Mid-quality bait
The armor is a little too far but you've gotten a chuckle from me
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>>145097489
>shooting him and them using R2 attack
If you're close enough you can perform a visceral attack with R1, it's way stronger than R2.
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>>145097648
Yeah I've read this before and I still fucked up and upgraded my stamina before realizing I wouldnt be able to upgrade my weapon.
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>>145098207
Upgrading weapons doesn't cost shit though.
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So if I make a cursed, fetid, all the other rites dungeon I can coop and invade then in any dungeon with those rites right?

Also, what are the best gems I should use for my pure blt chikage? I've got just enough str and skill to use it and then 50 blt.
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>>145098417
Get the Lost Chikage and a good BLT gem inthe circle slot, then probably some tempering in the radials.
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If I parry, then shoot, does the shot do more damage?

e.g. parry/stun then BMA cannon to the face vs. regular BMA cannon to the face
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>>145098673
Yes
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How do I build arcane, friends?
I get the feeling I'll have to do a lot of chalice dungeons for the necessary gems
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Did you ever play Ninja Gaiden 2 and do you remember the dismember mechanic in it?

Might be interesting material for a Bb sequel. Come to think of it there's very little dismemberment in Souls.
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>>145096204
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>>145098891
Yeah, Arcane requires lots of spelunking. First set of gems you should have are the fire waning gem next to the brainsuccer below the Abandoned Workshop and either Hotdog gems in the first dungeon or gems from the fire axe pthumerians. They'll carry you through most of the game, DLC is gonna be difficult with them though.
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>>145098891
Also, will I have to rush Ludwig to get MLGS if I want to not be a fruity la-la homo caster man?
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>>145099230
Yes.
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>>145097489
You don't need to buy vials or bullets, just farm them from enemies that drop them.

Yeah Father Gascoigne is the casual filter of Bloodborne. Glad you like the game so far. You're one of us now.
Try to fire your gun at an enemy, any enemy, during points in their attack animations. When you hear a distinct sound, and they fall to their knees or something, run/dash at them, then R1. You'll be surprised.

Armor is useless in Bloodborne, outside of status resistances, which are situational. Wear what you want.

Axe is Easy Mode. Try other weapons, find one you like. Upgrade weapons, it's better than just levelling yourself up.
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>>145097510
This
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>>145097489
You don't need to buy anything

Just get the proper Runes to get free stuff
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Tonitrus is my new weapon-fu. You trade in versatility, and get an absolute beast of a weapon in terms of damage. Is it eventually outclassed? This thing is just sexy.
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>>145099230
>MLGS
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>>145101097
The problem is that very few enemies are weak to blunt, you will eventually be disappointed in its output compared to other weapons.
Even enemies weak to bolt would receive more damage from a different weapon that wasn't blunt.
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Okay quick question

Why did the Moon Presence have less HP in Gehrman

I'm talking like, I swung maybe 12 times total and he was dead

Soul of Cinder took me like three tries at least cmon
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>>145101415
than gehrman*

fuck i'm retarded
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>>145101372
With Tonitrus I oneshot pretty much every kin in NG+, I don't need to do more damage than that.
With a +durability gem it also stops being paper.
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>>145101372
Well fug. Guess you don't go with Arcane for silly melee damage, right? Hopefully the tools are worthwhile.
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>>145101415
It probably has something to do with your weapon
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>>145101697
I went arcane and am using the tonitrus and a fire whip cane.
The cane will ultimately outclass the tonitrus overall in my opinion. If I had to choose one I'd pick the fire gemmed cane. This is with easily obtainable gems.
>>145101415
To show that the Moon Presence isn't a God of war so much as a God of manipulation :v)
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>>145101697
Arcane is perfectly fine for melee damage, especially with Tonitrus.
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>>145101415
Because there's no break between him and MP it would be pretty unfair if he was OP and for his attacks that take you to one hp and that stop you from healing it fits that he's not a Ludwig-esque pool of health
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>>145101372
>3/4 the enemies in the game are highly resistantly to bone crushing force but can be flayed alive by the equivalent of a paper cut
What are these fuckers made out of rubber? It's pretty pathetic watching cuttah be outdamaged by splindly little cane when the animations, sounds and stamina usage says it ought to be the other way around.
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>>145102338
>cuttah be outdamaged by splindly little cane
In what parallel dimension?
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>>145102338
I agree

I'm more disappointed that enemies' weaknesses aren't as profound.
Ebrietas, by all rights should receive more damage from Tiny Tonitrus, as well as Tonitrus.
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>>145102627
Ebrietas is extremely weak to bolt.
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>>145090926
I actually got killed by Maneater Boar my first time fighting it because it took me getting hit by its rear kick about 4 times in a row to process that it has one now.
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>>145102697
Not enough to justify using Tonitrus over fire cane, or TT over ACB or gloves.
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>>145103091
Tonitrus is literally the best way to kill Ebrietas though, it stunlocks here like nothing else.
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>>145102512
This one. The one where it's faster, has better overall scaling, uses close to half the stamina and doesn't have to contend with a whole bunch of enemies being resistant to it's only damage type.
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>>145103167
alright well you may be right
My experience with both weapons led me to believe otherwise
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Fucking hell, tore through Cleric, Gascan, and BSB all on one life, and now I can't dodge Amelia for shit.
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I made sliders for my Lovecraft if anyone is still interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJTdRtdD8Ac
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>>145105173
Nice, anon.
I'd run that for my ARC build if I wasn't already working on one.
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>>145104561
Just pop a pellet and mash R1 senpai
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>>145096204
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>>145103091
>fire cane

You're probably doing an Arc build then, of course a scaling 100% with Arc is going to do more damage than an Str weapon with a mediocre Arc scaling element.

Now slap a bolt gem on that cane instead of fire (assuming you have one that fits the slot) and compare that to fire.
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>>145096204
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I'm at Cainhurst and Nightmare Frontier and I don't have a single hunter tool. Am I missing some, or are they even later game?
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>>145096204
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>>145105173
I'm gonna run this dude. 10/10.
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>>145107106
Executioner's Gloves in Cainhurst, Messenger tool in Frontier. I think Augur of Ebrietas is in Lecture Building right before Frontier.
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>>145107106
There's a tool in Cainhurst, one in Forbidden Woods and one in the old workshop.
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>>145106798
Yeah you're right, I didn't take that into account. I'd like to make the argument that the Toni is less practical still, considering there are no bolt gems as easy to find as there are fire gems.
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>>145107106
Nothing personal bone in the workshop.
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Are my viscerals supposed to do absolutely pitiful damage as an ARC build?
Seriously just doing the glove at point blank or hitting R2 is better in every situation.
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>>145107750
Visceral damage scales primarily off of skill, so yes.
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>>145107750
Yeah, Viscerals scale with physical gems and mainly skill. You're better off attacking normally or using tools, burrito combo if you're doing pvp.
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>>145107998
The hell's a burrito combo?
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>>145107998
>Viscerals scale with physical gems

Thrust gems too. You can rack up some insane visceral damage with thrust gems.
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>>145108096
You land a hit and visceral right after, takes a bit of practice to nail.
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>>145107590
There are later on, but when you go Arc, weapons like Tonitrus and Boomhammer are almost entirely useless.
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>>145108096
Not him but I think that's when you parry an enemy and angle your R1 so that the enemy gets hit by it, and then you do the visceral attack all within the same R1 press.
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>>145108191
>>145108237
I thought that's what it was, but I wasn't sure.
Why "burrito" though?
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>>145108096
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>>145108316
It was named by some YouTuber who's known in the community, usually names these kind of things after food like Ravioli steps. I don't know why.
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>>145102338
>cuttah
>outdamaged by cane

If you're playing skill, maybe. Or if you're one of those faggots that only spaces with it tricked. The weapons have two forms for a reason, Anon.
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Is Ludwig's mandatory for Arcane? That A scaling is sexy, but the weapon is just a chore to use.

Augur is also sexy.
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>>145108459
>ravioli
>burrito
>hotdog
>seafood Ebrietas analogy I forgot

BB is a pretty food intense game.
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>>145108890
No, it isn't even appropriate for pure arc builds.
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>>145109075
Goodie. Going STR/ARC, with a 25/50 split. Tonitrus seems sexy, just wondering what to fall back on later.

Probably the Wheel...
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>>145109157
Wheel, HMS and Ayy. And if you're willing to get scaling gems any pure physical weapon can work. And if you're not willing to get scaling gems some weapons can still work without them, like the firegig or bolthammer.
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>>145109286
How?
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Can anyone help me to kill Rom?
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I keep reading conflicting things; does item discovery just make it more likely enemies drop stuff at all or will it also increase the chance of getting their rarer drops?
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>>145109929
I'm guessing you mean story Rom. Got a password?
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>>145110471
Only for enemies that don't have a 100% chance to drop something.
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>>145110471
It only increases the chance of *a* drop, never the quality of the drops.

This has been consistent since Demon's Souls, and I've never seen anyone say otherwise.
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>>145110471
Both, depending on the circumstances. Like, with certain enemies that always drop a certain type of object, they will have a greater chance of dropping higher quality ones.

Some guy did a huge report on how Discovery affects the werewolf drops in the Upper Cathedral: at 300+ discovery they were dropping more Chunks than anything else.
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>>145110564
Wait, there's another Rom? l finally found someone to summon and killed him, but thanks offering anon
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>>145110649
So not really worth pushing to 400 with runes if I'm trying to get more chalice materials off mobs then
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>try to parry winter lantern
>very clearly and loudly hear the parry sound go off
>still get grabbed
>try it again after getting up
>clearly hear the parry sound AGAIN
>get grabbed anyway AGAIN
Fighting these cunts on an ARC build sucks. I do no fucking damage to them.
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What does /bbg/ think of Redgrave?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xod9hRmUeFc&list=PLWmr0SQmJ64bt6mabLClTYa1r_hSdjO4M&index=4
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>>145110863
Shoot a little bit sooner. Otherwise the hyper armor gets them through it.
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>>145110649
It at least got changed in DaS3 since enemies can drop more than one thing at once.
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>>145110780
Chalice rom with an extra smidge of health and ten thousand more spiders
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>>145110906
Didn't he write the Paleblood Hunt? I think he's the best voice on lore but I didn't care for this video on Darkbeast at all
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>>145111202
Christ I just read that the other night, it must have blown my mind at least ten times.
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what the fuck is this thing burning in the cage supposed to represent? lt's just in a place in the middle of nothing in the forbidden woods
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>>145110906
He's a retarded lunatic.
The way he talks hurts my brain.
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>>145110849
That's the only time it actually is useful.
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>>145111202
Are the videos supposed to be a 'audio book' version of the paleblood hunt?
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>>145111357
It's a lantern
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>>145110863
>EGloves
>Back away
>EGloves
>Back away
>Bloodbullet heal
>EGloves
>Back away

So hard
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>>145110863
>>145111698
yeah two or three shots always takes them down, just have sedatives on hand (obvs)
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>>145111698
Yeah I realized that i'm running an ARC build and actually have spells at my disposal.
Sorry i'm still too used to hitting things to death like a filthy barbarian.
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>>145111603
No, I've only ever watched the Little Things videos and a few are good mostly I didn't care for the topics he picked in most all. Guy seems sweet but that's not relevant, I think he might be the best with his lore videos anything's better than that plagiarist Vaati. But the Paleblood Hunt sure is something God bless him for writing that
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>>145111581
Oh. Would it also work for gems from mundane chalice enemies like hunters or mini-bosses?
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wtf
I didn't play my NG+ character for a day and it's like I lost all my gud

The UCW wolves killed me like 3 times in a row...
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AHHH FUCKING SHADOWS OF YHARNAM
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>>145110906
He still thinks that Rom was created by Byrgenwerth and faggots like you glorifying him and other such youtube community celebrities are cancer. That's what I think.
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>>145112125
Awesome, l'll read it then

Anyone up for Rom?(byrgenwerth)
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>>145112778
Sure, pass?
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>>145112692
Retards like you who can't get over one misconception in an out of date document are the cancer.
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>>145112692
Bruh.
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>>145112870
>>145112897
No he's right, fuck off to /v/ with your e celeb cancer.
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>>145112870
>one
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>>145112847
bbg as always

lm ringing outside the building
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>>145112963
>e-celeb

lelwat

I've never even heard of the guy besides Paleblood Cunt
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>>145112692
>>145112963
>he's
samefag
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>>145112963
>>145112778 (You)
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>>145113045
You still got room?
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What kinda of bullshit is the lower pthumeru undead giant with the crazy chains? He chunks 60% of my health for every hit at 40 vitality.
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>>145113273
His attacks are extremely televised.
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>>145113273
Welcome to Chalice Dungeons.

Enjoy your VIT investment being meaningless.
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>>145112963
You're an idiot. I don't care for him or any youtuber who talk about Bloodborne but how is this rando an e-celeb?

Also, real subtle samefag
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>>145113416
>televised
COMING TO YOU LIVE FROM THE LOWER PTHUMERU DUNGEON
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>>145113416
>don't get hit, ever
great advice there kiddo

Doesn't change the fact that some things do, in fact, hit too hard.
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Who /sweatyclothes/ here?
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>>145113492
He's an aspiring Vaati and you faggots are putting him there.
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>he must be a samefag it can't be possible that people don't want that shit in the thread!
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>>145113664
>implying any of us even knew he had a jewtube channel, much less watch it

k then
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>>145113630
Yeah pretty much. All shitting aside though, not only is his attacks really slow, but most have a pretty notable cooldown afterwards. Watch his movements, stay out of the way, and go in for a few whacks while he's recovering from a swing.

Remember, if it does 80% of your health, that's 19% less than what's needed to backpedal and heal.
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>>145113675
That took you a while, you should spend more time honing your paint-fu and less time shitting up the thread.
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>>145113630
You have 20 blood vials. Unless you're getting hit by him consistently rather than every now and then you shouldn't be this fucking mad about it.
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>>145113664
I sure don't like that guy all he did was read descriptions and steal but someone talking about obscure lore interpretations with under ten thousand views isn't an e-celeb I'm sorry,

JonTron/RLM are e-celebs Redgrave is some nerd.
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>>145113652
Too nasty
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>>145113675
Leave it Anon, he asked for opinions and didn't like it when I told him my opinion was he's a faggot. You and I are now the same person, let it be.
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>>145114205
Yeah, I figured.
I guess showing off my new Yurie cosplay will have to wait until later.
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>>145114205
Happy to help, great job on Alfred's face by the way.
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>>145114293
Fail, l wanted to redo the comment with a picture attached before someone quoted it :(
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I can't beat the Shadows of Yharnam or get a damn summon for them, is 39 too low a level?
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>>145114429
I can help out if you want. Post a password and i'll head over.
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>>145113831
I got lucky and downed him the first time through, actually. Though those chains are brutal, they come out so quickly and I never really got the timing down between which swipes they would follow up.
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>>145114118
A guy joined someone I was helping wearing Sweaty Clothes, Doll Skirt and Knights Gloves

It was by far the ugliest outfit I've seen and I laughed out loud.
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Damn, /bbg/ was actually pretty nice these past few weeks. Where'd all these hostile assholes come from? Did school end?
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>>145114586
/dsg/ burning out on DaS3 and spending their free time shitposting.
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>>145114482
thanks anon <3

Will be around the fog gate area in just a minute, password should be "nasty", not sure I set it right though.
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>>145114586
These past few weeks didn't have people talking about random youtube personalities instead of the game. There's a reason /dsg/ went to shit and that's part of it.
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>>145114507
It's always interesting to hear how some people struggle with a boss whereas others find them trivial. What kind of build do you have going on?

>>145114586
It only takes one guy to fuck things up sometimes.
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>>145114429
lt's easy if you summon someone

the passwooord..
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>>145114724
I'm on my way too :)
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>>145114724
Ringing now.
If you're set to Worldwide then we should be good.
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>>145114417
I was so disappointed when I zoomed on queen Yharnam's face and realized that she has blonde hair.
I thought she was bald and it was cool as fuck.
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>>145114724
summon us in the stairs, if you stay just before you wont be able to, the bell symbol appears with a cross on it
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>>145114838
Ringing too

l am too late?
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>>145114740
44/25 quality with an Amygdalan Arm at +8, just trying to get through game first time and see later unique chalice dungeon bosses
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Fuck that was magical, thanks guys.

(Shit you can Executioner's Gloves that early? Good to know.
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>>145115360
Nah i'm just in the endgame. Using a password lets me connect despite being higher level.
Shaman Bone Blades against the Shadows is too silly.
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>>145114586
>>145114640
>>145114734
We're fine, lets not drag things out moar

Least favorite mob outside of the Chalice Dungeons?

Crows and witches come close because how fucking LOUD they are.

Cainhurst blowdart cucks are up there too, I feel they don't get enough hate
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>>145115360
np, summon us again for Rom if you need help

tfw you didnt actually get summoned
password was 'nasty' right?
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Is this guy right about Bloodborne?

https://youtu.be/u0yuDfcOhvA
(Critisism of Bloodborne starts at 13:50)
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>>145115505
Jesus fug that's just not fair. Not that I'm complaining. You have me excited to continue Arcane.
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>>145115291
Hm, I can sort of understand why you might have some trouble then, the Arm tends to have a lot of room for punishing when tricked, and you have to be pretty up close and personal when its not. Maybe stick to jumping and running R2s?
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>>145115591
It was but there were a few of us lusting after this young Hunter.
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>>145115531
>Cainhurst blowdart cucks are up there too, I feel they don't get enough hate

They don't deal very much damage so I've never really been bothered by them. When I forget about them it's more like a mosquito poking you than HOLY FUCK TOXIC UR FUCKING DEAD NOW! like the Blighttown dart guys.
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>>145115712
Gloves soon. You can head over to Cainhurst and pick them up right now
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>>145115591
Yeah, nasty. I think we had two people already is the problem, but I don't co-op much. Last build annihilated the Shadows.

And Rom IS weak to bolt, right? Tonitrus is kinda rapey, and his little spider minions are easy to kill, if tedious.
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>>145115531
Bloodlickers can't never get enough scorn for being annoying shitheaps
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>Of course, I do love you
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>>145115621
Who cares?
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>>145115531
>Cainhurst blowdart cucks

More like Cainhurst blowtard cucks amirrite?
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>>145115925
Absolutely,
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>>145116027
people who like talking about Bloodborne and its strengths and flaws?

not like you're here for any other reason than to scream about your e-celeb boogeyman
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>It's a the Arc or Str beckoner steals the visceral despite the fact you're clearly using Skl weapons episode
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Anyone up to helping my dumbass with Living Failures? My bell's ringin'.
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>>145116556
I though Lucifer was already dead
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>>145115621
I tried watching that but failed. Sorry anon.
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>>145116514
>expecting random beckoners to even know that viscerals scale off skill

Remember when you ring that little bell you're just a tard-herder, nothing more.
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>>145116323
Posting an opinion about some random youtuber's opinion when he isn't here to actually discuss or debate it is pointless. If you want to talk about your opinion on the game and we can actually chat about it then that'll be lovely Anon, but if you're not the guy who made that video then there's no point in commenting on it, and if you are the guy who made that video stop shilling REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145116514
>It's a open the boss for a visceral with Augur/EG but the host is too much of a coward to get close so you have to riposte him yourself despite having 10 skill episode
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>>145116693
what?
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Mad Ones spawning in Hemwick and I'm nowhere near the Witch. Too much Insight?
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>>145117193

Faulty invisibility booster apparently
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>>145117214
Yes
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>>145117214
You're being Gravelorded.
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>>145117214
Too much insight.
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>>145117379
No. I have no idea why you think it's Adella.
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>>145117379
breh

no, why would you even think that?
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>>145117312
God no the trauma.

Only ever happened once in DaS. Wasted mechanic, really.
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>>145117379
She's actually Eileen
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>>145115621
>it shouldn't be about the setting itself, it should be about how the people deal with it

This is the most incorrect thing possible
This man has never heard of the concept of a setting BEING a character
That's why there are a bunch of nameless NPCs whose doors you can knock on and who will tell you to fuck off, it builds the character of the setting

Lordran was a kingdom long since dead and which didn't need to be a character
The things he says apply to post-apocalyptic settings like Fallout where a living, breathing city isn't really a thing
But Yharnam is very much alive and screaming, so it takes center stage, which is also why the early game enemies all actually talk and speak coherently rather than just making zombie noises like hollows did
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My R1 is all janky so I might as well stop playing this fucking game
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ls this supposed to be Adella? How the fuck did she die?
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>>145117608
There are infinite ways to die here.
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>>145117608

She was...

ALREADY DEAD
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How to parry beast cutter mobs? Can never get my timing right
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>>145117608
It's not hard to imagine considering that everything in Yahar'gul wants to kill you.
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>>145116695
I guess I'm just gonna have to type it out like it's my own opinion, itherwise people like>>145116027
>>145116819 will get mad about their secrit club being invaded by le shill e-celeb boogeyman.
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>>145117902
I meant boomhammer, sorry

>>145117608
Not her if she didn't drop her rune
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>>145117608
sure looks like that one corpse outside of the great cathedral

there are dead church hunters everywhere
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>>145117902
Get the timing right
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>Blood Saint
>Drops five Blood Vials

Poetry.
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>>145118032
Why do you care so much about discussing the opinion of some random Youtube guy?
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>>145115621
>>145117572

Bloodborne is nice to look at, but it feels like it has no substance. There seems to be a lack of diversity, and while general interactions are engaging they lack depth, fairness. Everyday life is more about witlessly encouraging aggression without understanding it.

Also, connecting with others is difficult, and is only possible on specific areas.

Furthermore, the people you engage with are two dimensional; the inherent hubris, or driving flaw that made people from Dark Souls 1 parallel to the thematic nature of their existence has been replaced with convolution of irrelevant history. The world should be more about how people deal with the setting and city, rather than why the setting/city exists in the first place.

And if you think I'm writing this just because I'm unskilled, then maybe you're just halfwit of your style over substance.

Also, I think the story is a dream within a dream, conjured by eyes if the sky born without a child.
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What weapon do arcane builds go with?
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Longshot, if you in here, thanks for trying, man. But that shield sucks for anything that ain't a pure arcane attack.
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>>145118289
Sounds like a whole bunch of dumb gay shit.
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Do I need to go fucking around in Chalice Dungeons to get stuff like Bolt gems?
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HOW DO YOU KILL THIS MOTHERFUCKER?

>LITERALLY 2 SHOTS YOU WHEN HE TRANSFORMS CHIKAGE

>RANDOMLY SPAMS 2 GUNSHOTS IN A ROW THAT 2 SHOT YOU ASWELL

>HE FUCKING EVEN USES BLOOD VIALS

Just kill me already, l can't even summon someone in this area
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>>145118289
For example?
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ls this supposed to be Adella? How the fuck did she die?
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>>145118445
No, but you need to do it if you want the good ones.
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>>145118289
>but it feels like it has no substance
Really? I feel like its teeming with it, that many enemies have their place, that so many events can occur differently depending on the time of the night just adds to that

>Furthermore, the people you engage with are two dimensional
Depends on the character. Gascoigne for example has a lot more going for him than, say, Adella.

>The world should be more about how people deal with the setting and city, rather than why the setting/city exists in the first place.

Well, things are pretty fucked by the time you get there, so it's more about putting the pieces together.

>And if you think I'm writing this just because I'm unskilled, then maybe you're just halfwit of your style over substance.
Calm down son.
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>>145118445
Yee, but you should just do random depth 5 FRC dungeons for fun until you have decently usable gems, don't go full autismo and worry about farming perfect bolt gems. 'bad' curses are actually pretty fine to use most the time (except -attack reeeeee)
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>>145118289
His point about NPCs is stupid, because Bloodborne has very, VERY few NPC questlines compared to DaS
Most aren't even as lengthy as Crestfallen Warrior, which was literally just "I'm sad, you should be sad too, also I'm going to die later and you'll fight me" with a few subtleties in specific voice lines

Bloodborne is not worse in its storytelling, just different, and he expresses it in a way that seems to be directly comparing aspects that the two just don't share
It's really disingenuous and goes to show that he just wants DaS1 to be remade over and over
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ls this supposed to be Eileen without the crow set? How did she came back from the dead after dying to the cainhust crow?
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>>145118479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBmHws_4lHQ

You're welcome
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>>145118479
Use charge attacks with weapons with long reach never you see him midly sorinting towards your direction, he's ready ti attack and won't dodge out.

As stated above, only prepare to attack when he's tunningbtowards you, itherwise just stay midrage and circle him either rught or left, his bullets will miss you. He'll usually shoot twice in a riw so even if you get hit keep dodging and be orepared for more bullets. Heal as appropiate.

He only heals once.
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Is this supposed to be Adella? How the fuck did she die?
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>>145118479
Parry him until death or, if you cannot into gud, just cheese the shit out of him with poison knives, molotovs and a lot of backing up.

Get a weapon with good range for the instances when he decides to do a really obvious R2 attack, and chortle blissfully every time he pisses away his own health with Chikage.

He only heals once, and he throws a single numbing mist when at about 5-10% health.

>>145118995
I like this budding new maymay
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>mfw he deleted the post

Okay I think it's time to stop bully.
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Im pretty sure Gehrman is the one who killed Kos, and umbilical cord in the Abandoned Workshop is from her. I wonder if that cord has something to do wth the doll.
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Is it possible to even stagger Gehrman's second form? How am I supposed to land any hits on him without taking one myself?
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>>145119121
>stop bully
>In bullyborne general
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>>145118845
The Cainhurst crow killed her and stole her crow garb. Later Eileen reviver her and her conciousness started existing in the nightmare as one of Mergo's Wet Nurses.
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>>145119164
Parry
Also, don't go for more than 1-2 hits at a time
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>inna dungeon
>it's quiet
>no it's not
>every footstep and every rasp of every creature 30 meters in every direction
>sounds from rooms adjacent to rooms adjacent to the one you're in walls of stone or solid earth be damned
I guess it's nice to know when there are 20 angry red spiders waiting for me to open the wrong door.
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>>145118761
The materials to get to deeper depths are contained within preceding depths, right? I never really messed about with them.
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>>145119164
It gets harder but you can still stagger him in any form. Not every attack though.
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>>145119154
>When the carcass of Kos washed up on the coast, its insides were teeming with tiny parasites, unlike any found in humans.

>carcass of Kos
>washed up on the coast
Did Gehrman kill her in an underwater mission?
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>>145119154
>When the carcass of Kos washed up on the coast, its insides were teeming with tiny parasites, unlike any found in humans.

Kos was already dead. Umbilical Cord is very likely from her, though, yes.
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>get parried by Gehrman
>he actually goes for the visceral for once
>"OH FUCK HE'S GONNA ONE SHO--"
>does like a hundred damage

Somebody didn't put any points into skill
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>>145118038
You want the bullet to actually connect with them at the apex of their swing. For jump attacks it's as soon as they're in the air.
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>>145119154
Not Kos.
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>>145118964
YESSSSSS

GET FUCKED YOU SON OF A BITCH AHAHAHAHAAHAH TRY TO USE YOUR GAY REPEATING PISTOL NOW
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>>145119404
>Umbilical Cord is very likely from her
Impossible, after the Byrgenwerth raid the orphan was still inside her body.
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>>145119557
how would you possibly know that
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>>145119525
Is that Adella?
How the fuck did you kill her?
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>>145119557
That is inside The Hunters Nightmare though. Micolash is still alive and well inside The Nightmare of Mensis even as his body rots in the waking world.
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>>145119121
Maybe if you all wouldn't bully everyone who makes a SIMPLE MISTAKE

I'm STILL UPSET ABOUT WHEN IT HAPPENED TO ME
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>>145119676
I visited the Fishing Hamlet.

>>145119803
Orphan created that nightmare.
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>>145119557
They ripped living fuckers open at the Hamlet just to see what was happening in their heads. I don't believe they didn't also have a peak inside mama Kos.

Remember the Hunter's Nightmare isn't an accurate account of the present, it's a twisted vision of the past.
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>>145119856
>I visited the Fishing Hamlet.
No you didn't, you visited the Nightmare version of it and witnessed the Orphan's consciousness, no doubt peeved as fuck because SOMEONE went and clubbed his slimy ass.
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>>145119856
I really dont see how that refutes anything. Things that die in the real world are found in dreams, including Lawrence and the Player himself.
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>>145119819
Which one were you?
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>>145119987
It's the real hamlet, transported in the nightmare.

>>145120039
>Things that die in the real world are found in dreams
That dream didn't exist until Oprhan created it.
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>>145120074
I'm not telling you
You BRUTES are never bullying me again
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>>145119987
The whole point of the Hunter's Nightmare is to conceal the Fishing Hamlet. It's not a representation of it, it's the real thing.
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>>145120219
>It's the real hamlet, transported in the nightmare.
There is more evidence that this isn't true than that it is. For example there are two Grand Cathedrals in the Hunter's Nightmare and one in reality, so unless they had three identical Grand Cathedrals and two had the exact same surrounding layout and two were taken into the Nightmare you're talking shit.
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>>145114417
What's that woman supposed to symbolize?
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>>145120270
Lel I'm gonna guess you're the one who said how impressed you were when you realized Hypogean Gaol meant underground jail in latin or something like that then we all said shit like

>game is named Bloodborne
>Look up the definition of bloodborne
>illness transmitted theough the blood
>DEEPEST LORE
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>>145120559
>For example there are two Grand Cathedrals in the Hunter's Nightmare
I'm talking about the Fishing Hamlet inside the nightmare, not the nightmare itself.
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>>145120219
>It's the real hamlet, transported in the nightmare.
What? Is the beginning of Old Hunters the real Yharnam, transported to the nightmare? No. It's all in the same linear trip. it's real in that realm, but it's not the original.

>>145120434
Simon states time and time again that they're hiding the truth, and that truth is the events that transpired in the fishing village.
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>>145120571
I WASN'T IMPRESSED
I WAS MAD
I WAS MAD BECAUSE I WAS PRONOUNCING IT LIKE IT WAS A WEIRD FANTASY NAME BUT THEN IT TURNED OUT IT WAS JUST FUCKING ENGLISH

IT WASN'T A LORE THING AND YOU ALL MADE FUN OF ME LIKE THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING I HATE YOU
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>>145120562
Nothing. That is literally Yharnam, the Pthumeran Queen.
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>>145120684
>What? Is the beginning of Old Hunters the real Yharnam, transported to the nightmare?
No, that's the nightmare. That's why it's called "Hunter's Nightmare". The fishing hamlet is simply called "Fishing Hamlet" and it's not altered in any way. It's the real thing, reason why you can't find an equivalent in the waking world.
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ls this supposed to be Adella? How the fuck did she die?
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>>145114417

>jpg-large.jpg
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>>145120562
She is literally Mego's (the crying baby) mother.
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>>145120559
This, Byrgenwerth's lecture building us the only location confirmed to have been literally ripped from reality into the nightmare, and the area itself is floating in the middle of butt-fuck nowehere in the nightmare, spearated from the main Nightmare areas we know are conencted (hunter's nightmare, hamlet, frontier and mensis).

>>145120562
Adella, it also represents dying. Who the hell did that happen?
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>>145120786
>It's the real thing, reason why you can't find an equivalent in the waking world.

We can't find an equivalent because it's probably too much of a hike away and From thought it would be cooler to portray it in its nightmare state.

Same with the Research Hall.

Plus you can see if from nightmare frontier
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>>145110780
>him
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>>145120571
Did you legitimately have to look that up?
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>>145120723
>>145120864
Oh, so why is she bloody?
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anyone need help with a boss?
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>>145120649
But the Fishing Hamlet inside the Nightmare is completely connected to everything else. The Lecture Building is the only Nightmare location we know was taken from reality, and it only connects to other locations via portals. We just waltz through the Astral Clocktower straight into the Hamlet.

Further the only people who wanted to keep it all secret was the Church and Maria, the Church because it would give everything away and Maria because of guilt. The Orphan has absolutely no reason to care about that.
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>>145121019
Cause miscarriage
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>>145121019
The seemingly stole her baby by cutting it out of her.
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>>145121019
Pthumerians have killer periods.
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>>145120649
The whole nightmare are constitutes of nightmerish recreations of real life places, as >>145120882 said. The only area confirmed to have been repiied inti the nightmare is in a different dimension.
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>>145111828
>filthy barbarian
I think you meant filthy beast anon.
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>>145121019
Giving birth to a great one probably isn't pretty
And she most likely did not give up her baby by choice, given that you see her outside the Wetnurse bossroom looking up at it, and since so many major players in the game's lore wanted to get their hands on great ones
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ls this supposed to be eileen? How the fuck did she turn into this?
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>>145120791
View her spectre and find out
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>>145121000
This is 100% speculation.
>Plus you can see if from nightmare frontier
I'm not saying that it's not in the nightmare, I'm saying that it existed in the waking world and it was transported in the nightmare.

>>145121047
>The Lecture Building is the only Nightmare location we know was taken from reality
The astral clocktower is a portal too, albeit different from the ones in the lecture building.
Fishing Hamlet is exactly like the Nightmare Building.
>The Orphan has absolutely no reason to care about that
He has a reason to move in the nightmare.
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>>145120723
>Get bagged by bagman
>Kidnapped
>Dumped into a jail cell, presumably for sacrifice
>Areas name is literally "gaol" (jail)
>Doesn't take my weapons
>Doesn't take my armor
>Doesn't take my items
>Doesn't even bother to lock the door
>Walks out
At least he closed the door?
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>>145121035
I could use a hand with Martyr Logarius

Password is Doll
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>>145121471
>I'm saying that it existed in the waking world and it was transported in the nightmare.

Any form of citations should have been given by now homie.

>Fishing Hamlet is exactly like the Nightmare Building.

No it's not. For all we know the lecture hall doesn't even have an exterior.
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>>145121228
Nightmares always have weird rock formations with blood flowing through them.
They can be found in Frontier, Mensis and Hunter's Nightmare.
There's no such thing in Fishing Hamlet.
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>>145121502
There's no time for all that, he's gotta put more in his wackty sack.
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>>145121593
omw!!
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>>145121714
>Any form of citations should have been given by now homie
Same source that states that Gehrman gutted Kos and took her umbilical cord.
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Are we back yet?
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>>145122615
Looks like we back boys
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>>145122615
We shall not abandon the dream
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17423
Is this any good for a Bowblade build?
also WE BACK
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>>145122690
>>145122693
!!
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>>145122742
It's good, very standard.
For PvP Repeating Pistol is better than Evelyn.
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Now that we've successfully returned here's the shit I tried to post 300 times:

>the music box you get from Gascoigne's daughter plays the same song that plays during the credits (and title screen if I remember right)

But why though
That's like the creepiest, most unsettling song that could possibly come out of a music box

My inner lorefag tells me it's the songified version of a Great One's cries, used by the church during "mass," eventually making its way into music boxes
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https://twitter.com/4chan
>4chan @4chan
>We blocked a country.Then, servers are fine.
HIRO PLS

Also, we're back. The dream lives on!
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>>145122892
And Mergo's Wet Nurses theme
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>>145120571
>Hypogean Gaol meant underground jail in latin

It technically means underground jail in English too

"Gaol" is pronounced "Jail", after all
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>>145122994
Considering the song is called "Lullaby For Mergo," I would guess it's a song the Wetnurse sang for Mergo which somehow made its way into the general populace
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>>145123542
>It technically means underground jail in English too
It only means underground jail in English.
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>>145121862
>Provost Willem sought the Cord in order to elevate his being and thoughts to those of a Great One, by lining his brain with eyes. The only choice, he knew, if man were to ever match Their greatness.

They actively sought out the cord in an attempt to grow closer to becoming a Great One.

>A corpse, should be left well alone. Oh, I know very well how the secrets beckon so sweetly.

She's not talking about herself.

The biggest though, is the priest right outside the Hamlet.

>Mercy for the poor, wizened child...Let the pungence of Kos cling, like a mother's devotion...

This is not subtle. He's obviously talking about the child of Kos.

And of course, a solid connection between Gherman and the Orphan is formed after you kill it and the doll remarks about how Gherman is finally sleeping comfortably.

Your turn.
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>>145120719
No worries anon, we all get bullied here. In fact, there's a special young lady who's quite fond of being bullied. Perhaps you two should become friends and bully each other!
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Any tips with the Watch dog of the old lords on defined chalice?
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>>145123542
>jail
>gale
>gaol

Huh, it's gonna be hard no to keep pronouncing it Gah-ohl
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>>145122892
Viola's daughter is Mergo after she was ascended by kos. Her body disappears once you start the fight with Mergo's Wet Nurse, and playing the song from the music box her sister gave you makes baby mergo laugh.
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>>145120719
>tfw realizing that Yahar'gul Iron Helm is Black Hooded Iron Helm without the hood
What are you trying to tell me, Miyazaki?
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How's the Rosmarinus? Reaaally not a fan of the FS, but I'm running an Arcane build, and the Rosi has some pretty funky scaling with Arc. Is it worth it at all, or am I just gonna waste bullets using it?
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>>145123758
What does black pudding smell like? Menstrual blood or something?
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>>145123728
That doesn't prove anything.
Willem could have got the cord anywhere else, the priest outside the Hamlet is not a corpse, Gehrman is connected with Orphan because he was the first victim of the curse.
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>>145124448
I'd say it's pretty good. You usually only use it as a finisher though.
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>>145124232
It's trying to tell you that Yahar'gul = black hooded, but once you remove the hood a.k.a. kill Rom, it reveals the true Yahar'gul: a city if iron.

Furthermore, blood has iron in it, so it also symbolizes how the city is also made of blood, moulded by it. It didn't really see the red moon until you made the city a man by deflouring it by killing rom, but by then it was only blinding.
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>>145124448
It's very good, but situational.
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>>145124176
>ascended by Kos

Kos is long, long dead at this point though, and I don't know that corpses can be turned into great ones
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>>145124725
What sort of uses would it have exactly? The FS was great for melting some beasts, but I never utilized it beyond that.
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>>145124514
Well of course, Yahrnam is the home of blood menstruation after all!
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>>145124872
It hits multiple enemies at once, and it's very good to finish enemies in PvP if you use it unlocked.
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>>145124725
>situational

But is it working as intended?
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>>145124568
>Willem could have got the cord anywhere else
Where? Mergo's is in Mensis

>the priest outside the Hamlet is not a corpse
no shit, kos is though

>Gehrman is connected with Orphan because he was the first victim of the curse
Or, much more logically, because he killed it

Still waiting for those clues on your side regarding the Hamlet.
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Why do people ring in Layer 1 Chalices at Level 100+ jfc
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>>145125197
>no shit, kos is though
We already know that Kos died before her body was found on the coast.
As for the clues, I already posted many.
The fishing hamlet doesn't show any of the common characteristics of the other nightmare areas, like the bleeding rocks that you can find in Nightmare Frontier, Hunter's Dream, Hunter's Nightmare and Nightmare of Mensis.
The only areas in the dream world where they're not present were originally part of the waking world.
Unlike Cathedral Ward the Hamlet also shows signs of events that actually happened in the waking world, like Lady Maria's sword in the well.
The hamlet is also not present in the waking world, just like the Nightmare Building. Same goes for Orphan himself.
Even if the Fishing Hamlet was actually a false, there would be no reason for the Orphan to still be in his mother's womb.
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>>145126052
The bleeding rocks are gravestones, so it's kind of reflecting Loran, and as we know Yharnam is littered with coffins and graves as well. The Hamlet is not.
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>>145126239
What about Nightmare Frontier and Mensis?
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>>145126320
Loran nigga. That's why the nightmare is stuffed with beasts of the same name too.
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>>145126239
>The bleeding rocks are gravestones
No, it's rocks https://twitter.com/aureolin24/status/675954279870504965
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Is there going to be a BB FC going on tomorrow, for old time's sake?
Going back to this after several months, everything is so fast.
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Mmmn, wish it was easier to find co-op partners. It's a damn fun time running through levels with people.
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>>145126448
Why is every area in the nightmare reflecting Loran except for Lecture Hall, Research Hall and Fishing Hamlet?
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>>145118689
>Well, things are pretty fucked by the time you get there, so it's more about putting the pieces together.

To add to this post. From my perspective I feel like the game sets the PC Hunter to feel like you're getting an outsider perspective. BB's NPCs even the ones in the door refer to the hunt as being a thing that occurs somewhat often. It just so happens that this specific hunt is the worst of them all. The outsider who clearly has absolutely no knowledge of the hunt and the inner workings of Yarnham suddenly getting thrusted into the situation and for lack of better words compelled to figure out what is even going on.
Even the Blood Minister said that you need to uncover it's mystery, and that mystery is the hunt and everything else.
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>>145126730
And Yharnam. I'd guess the many bloodied stones in the first are of the Hunter's Nightmare is due to the repeating nature of Loran and Yharnam.

The Lecture Hall, as previously stated, was pulled from the waking world, and is evidenced as such by only being accessed through eldritch portals.

The faux Cathedral Ward terminates into the Research Hall because it is the first layer of individuals that attempted to hide the truth: the Church hiding the research they were forcing upon citizens.

Upon discovering the secrets of the Research Hall we reach the next layer, Maria, who toils eternally at the Astral Clocktower hiding her shame.
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>>145127339
I'm not asking why these areas converge, I'm asking why Lecture Hall, Research Hall and Hamlet lack the basic characteristics of the nightmare, and the answer is that they were all directly transported from the waking world.
You can literally see a piece of the Grand Cathedral missing, which is where the Research Hall was once placed.
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Do we know what Ludwig looked like before his transformation?
Or what weapons he used, aside from the HMLS?
I wanna base my build on him but I don't know what I should use.
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>>145127919
No, and Ludwig's Rifle.
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>>145126675
Adding to this; what ARE the most commonly trafficked bosses?
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>>145127190
>even the ones in the door refer to the hunt as being a thing that occurs somewhat often

This is what I think is so important that makes BB's story different from the other Souls games.
The other Souls games take place in ruins, empty castles, villages full of completely inhuman zombies.
For all practical purposes, the world is dead and you're just looking at a puzzle with the pieces spread over the floor.

BB is nothing but humans, humans turning into beasts, beasts who were likely very recently humans, and alien gods.
You're looking at the scattered pieces of a puzzle that's not even finished being made yet, you're in the middle of the story and a very active contributor battling AGAINST the game's world rather than just within it.
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>>145128025
I guess I could just look at the "human" side of his face and try to recreate it.
What about armor? I feel like the Tomb Prospector set would be most fitting.
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>>145128103
Ludwig, Orphan, Laurence, Watchdog, Pthumeru Amygdala, Bloodletting beast, Abhorrent beast.
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>>145126675
Get a Short Root Ritual Chalice. Constant summons, although its restricted to chalices.
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Anyone for Witch? pass is bbg
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>>145128230
He wears executioner's garb on his back, I don't know about the other pieces.
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>>145128150
If I remember correctly, someone told me that when you first get taken by the Sack dude to Jail, the song you here through out the area is the ritual being made by Micolash and his Mensis buddies to transport Mensis into the Nightmare but I could easily be wrong.

If not, then that's clearly just a perfect representation of you being right in the middle of everything going on. Instead of it being already unraveled it's unraveling right before your eyes.
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>>145127735
I would say the answer is because From didn't want you paying money for a DLC that was 100% existing assets you've seen a thousand times before.
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>>145128536
Even then they would have a cop out explanation.
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>>145128384
So he was just full Executioner's? That seems odd; since I don't think he was directly affiliated with them.
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finally finished for the very first time this game, but dear lord the third act punished me too hard, I had to run away from everything and go direct to the bosses to have a chance!

Is there a build where I can "cheese" through everything? I did an Strenght/Arcane build and deeply regreted! and I did kill every possible boss but didn't have the balls to try the chalices neither the DLC areas
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>>145121862
If you go back up, Anon, what I said was that it was likely the cord from Kos. Not definitely infallibly. Just likely. The evidence which makes it likely is there; Gehrman was around for the Fishing Hamlet, Kos has a cord, Gehrman later uses a cord to beckon MP. We find four cords in the game, one which was used to beckon MP, one which was used to beckon Mergo, one which Willem had at some point, and one which occurred when Arianna shot a slug out of her cooch. Given three of the four cords have already been around for a while now, this makes them somewhat rare. All of this makes it likely that the cord Gehrman got was from Kos. Not infallibly so, just likely.

You're the one claiming things with no evidence are definite fact.
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>>145128689
The description says: "Later became the basis for all Church attire, with its heavy draping of Holy Shawl."
The only part that was exclusive to the executioners was the Ardeo, so he was probably wearing the full set without the helm.
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>>145128676
Not really. Bleeding tombstones really doesn't fit in thematically to areas like the research hall or the hamlet. So my reasoning: it would look fucking dumb.

I guess what I'm saying is nitpicking one tiny area, the aesthetics of a few worldspaces, doesn't really compare to actual in game clues provided by notes, item descriptions, and dialogue.
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>>145128384
No he wears Tomb Prospector Garb, watch it again.
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>>145128881
It's clearly white.
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>>145128307
nvm my dad took the ps4 over for the night
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>>145128851
>it would look fucking dumb
It looks dumb everywhere but it doesn't matter, it's one of the common elements in every nightmare area.
If it's not present somewhere, there's obviously a reason.
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>>145124568
>Gehrman is connected with Orphan because he was the first victim of the curse

The curse is the Hunter's Nightmare. Gehrman is not in the Hunter's Nightmare. Gehrman's situation is a direct result of Moon Presence.

You're just saying things to upset people now.
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>>145129080
-there wasn't any burial performed in the hamlet
-there wasn't any burials performed in the research hall
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>>145129195
See >>145126579
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>>145124176
So Viola is Yharnam?
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>>145083457
I'll roll for this, haven't played in a while.
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>>145129234
-there's no mountain ranges inside buildings
-by the time any slaughterfest occured in the hamlet they already had the blood of kin, also its raining
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>>145126052
Don't find them in the Research Hall, brah. The Research Hall is also called the Research Hall, it's not called the Hunter's Nightmare. This gives equally as much evidence for the fact that the Research Hall is the real Research Hall ripped out of reality, but we know this isn't true due to the Lumenflower Gardens.
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>>145126586
What makes you think there wouldn't be?
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>>145129128
>The curse is the Hunter's Nightmare
No, every single hunter is cursed according to Simon's dialogue.
If the Nightmare was the actual curse then Willem would be there too.
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>>145124684
Yharnam's a big girl
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>>145129275
I HAVE COME TO PURGE IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR
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>>145129378
>but we know this isn't true due to the Lumenflower Gardens
Lumenflower gardens could easily be a different place.
Research Hall is where they conducted the first experiments, UCW is where they conducted the final ones.

>>145129368
There's also no mountain range in Cathedral Ward, but the rocks are still present.
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>get rom down to a 1/5 of his health as a co-oper

>get hit by spider

>die

FUCK
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>>145129652
>his

seriously?
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>>145129585
The cathedral ward and yharnam sectors are pretty unceremoniously bashed together so I don't see how that matters a whole heck of a lot. There's no real transitional area and they're both simultaneously recognized as "hunter's nightmare," probably due to them both being extremely common romping grounds for hunters.
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What are the outfits the villagers at the bottom of the Healing Church Workshop are wearing?
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>>145129835
Butcher set
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>>145129768
It's a woman? Fuck man, I just know it's a creepy-ass spider and I want it dead now.
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>>145129585
Anon we can go to the Lumenflower Gardens in the Nightmare. It's where we find the Blacksky Eye. It's the exact same location relative to the Grand Cathedral.
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>>145129768
>being this concerned about cosmic entity's gender

Do you shout out people who also call Amygdala a she?

At least it was implied straight in the game itself rather than Miyazaki randomly calling something by gender in an interview
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>>145129920
Fuck you

Rom is cute and best girl
She's the only one preventing the Blood Moon from happening again in the first place
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>can parry nightmare frontier winter lantern 99% success
>can't seem to get it half the time on nightmare of mensis bridge ones
Is the parry window tighter on mensis ones or is all this shit just in my head?
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>>145090356
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>>145130008
Miyazaki specifically referred to Rom as "she"
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>>145130053
this
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>>145130064
I think they're the same.
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>>145130064
You clearly just need more Insight anon.
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So /bbg/, did anyone outside of Oedon Chapel survive the night?
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>>145130096
That's what I literally just said
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>>145098903
Aanon why do you insist on making me hope for such things? Do you enjoy seeing me in this pain?
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>>145129424
Willem isn't dead. Do you know why you're only allowed to access the Hunter's Nightmare after killing Amelia? Because she's in it, and she only goes there when she dies. Laurence, confirmed dead. Ludwig, confirmed dead. Maria, confirmed dead. Both Saif hunters who can quicken, confirmed dead. The only people there who still live in the physical plane are the player and Simon.
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>>145130237
Eileen, Djura, the doll
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>>145105173
Perfect to purge with.
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>>145130341
Willem can be killed.
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>>145130363
>implying Djura survived falling off the tower after trying to stake drive some nut on a ladder
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>>145130363
>if Djura had bothered to help instead of just sitting around in Old Yharnam you could've double teamed the entire rest of the game
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>>145130486
He can also be spared.
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>>145130562
I didn't and he wasn't in the nightmare.
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Holy fuck, I'm doing a depth 3 chalice and it is kicking my ass. Those long-haired fast monsters just annihilate me, I can't get hardly a single hit in on them.

How wide will my butthole be pulled when (if) I get to the bosses in this one?
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>>145130613
Depends on the boss I suppose but the madmen are always cunts no matter which layer you're in. Especially in FRC's.
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>>145130613
>Those long-haired fast monsters

WROARAOORARARA (while running)
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>>14510840
>>145108096
Peeve go back to Twitch
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>>145130607
holy shit are we really doing this right now
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You're walking in Yharnam and this guy slaps your Hunter's ass. What do you do?
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>>145128790
>We find four cords in the game, one which was used to beckon MP, one which was used to beckon Mergo, one which Willem had at some point, and one which occurred when Arianna shot a slug out of her cooch. Given three of the four cords have already been around for a while now, this makes them somewhat rare.

This confuses me. The item is called "one third" of a cord, but there are only two thirds (mergo's and abandoned workshop's) and the rest are entirely new cords created recently (Iosefka's and the prostitue's). So where the first two cords part of one cord? What happened to the original last one third? What happened to the other two thirds of Iosefka's and Adrianna's cord?

Adding to that, can we consider this removed description from one if the cords cannon? If so, did one of the cords come from Maria?
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>>145130607
He wasn't in the Nightmare because you have the option to not kill him so putting him in it wouldn't have made sense half the time. Further just because you don't see him doesn't mean he's definitely never ever intended to ever be there. I'm seriously struggling to see what kind of point you're trying to prove here. Are you suggesting that those in the Hunter's Nightmare are still alive, or that the curse has nothing to do with the Hunter's Nightmare and that was all just Orphan getting carried away with his Nightmare Lego?
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>>145130789

It's just A-team at it again

>Dark Souls 3
>if you sequence break and meet the Shrine Handmaid in the past before meeting her in the present, she has special dialogue
>but you can kill Emma and she'll still talk like normal during the teleportation cutscene

MIYAZAKI
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>>145115531
I hate the constantly respawning spiders/hollow-looking guys. Always bothers me when there are damn-near infinitely respawning enemies.
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>>145130868
Worship our true Lord and Saviour Amygdala.
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>>145131013

Kill the bell dame
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>>145130930
They made an alternate cutscene for Sif in DS1, I expect this kind of stuff.
I'm saying that all the hunters are cursed, not just the ones in the nightmare.
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>>145118091
>>Blood Saint
What?
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Doing a HMLS build designed after Ludwig himself.
What should I name the character? I'm torn between "Virtuous Ludwig" and simply "The Holy Blade"
Or any better ideas if you have 'em.
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>>145131080
I'm not saying only the people in the Nightmare are cursed, Anon, I'm saying that the actual curse is the Nightmare itself, and it's what awaits Hunters who fuck it all up. If you're suggesting otherwise then please explain what the fuck you even think the curse is in the first place.
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>>145129473
UUUU
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>>145130930
Not him, but if you level up the League covenant to the point where Valtr goves you the title of commander of the league his summon by Ludwig changes name and he's helmetless because he gave you that title and helmet. If they wanted to show Willem in there somehow they could have.
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>>145131543
Was getting pregnant part of your plan?
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>>145131062
I know that, but it's a wheel pain in the ass when I have to fight through a legion of spiders/hollows and the normal mobs to just get to her.
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>>145131349
>Not naming yourself Rape Horse
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>>145131679
Willem ascended to the point where he could just exit the nightmare and become some kind of cosmic wanderer
this is what i believe
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>>145130875
It was left attached to the placenta, obviously.
They split the first 2/3rds into 2 1/3rds because it's what Gehrnam requested.
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I don't think anything triggers me more than getting summoned for Ludwig and seeing Henriett there
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>>145131447
Not him, but the curse is that anyone labeled as a hunter will one day end up in the nightmare whenever they either die or are drunk with blood. The curse also affects "their children, and their children's children's forever true." As long as you're father/mother was a hunter, you will have to bear their curse, the curse of forefather's sins, as stated by Simon, whether you did anything wrong or not ("it's just not fair" line).
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>>145131679
They also don't show Gascoigne, or Henryk, or Crowsteel. Does this also prove that everything directly said about the Hunter's Nightmare isn't actually true?
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>>145132487
Getting summoned for Defiled Amy and seeing Tomb Prospector instead of Killer Queen.
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>>145129484
>>145129275
What set is the best to purge with?
>inb4 Executioner helm
I want to keep my Plague Doc hat, it keeps the filth from the heretics away.
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>>145132592
>Getting summoned for Defiled Amy*
ftfy
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>>145132770
Maybe the Butcher vhest
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Starting to get a little mad with Ludwig bullying Valtr, fuck off him you loud horse cunt. I'm honestly gonna tell you that your hunters are royal pricks which I never have before but fuck you at NG+++
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>>145132770
>LW
>HoH

You know what must be done, Anon. Let the good hunter die. Let Crowwheel be born.
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>>145132959
>implying you'll ever get to second phase even with your boyfriend helping you out
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>>145133387
In the name of The Emperor it shall be so, I will begin my adventure in an hour or so.
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>>145133351
claiming
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>>145133351
BETTER HURRY LADS, THERE'S ONLY ABOUT 26 WEAPONFUS TO CLAIM
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>>145133351
SHIINNG
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>>145133351
Purge it in flame
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>>145130695
>>145130719
>Depends on the boss

>Get Brainsucker
>get paralyzed once (my bad dodging)
>Drains half my health
>paralyzes me again before I can even start to dodge away
>Drains other half of health
I fucking hate any enemy that can grab you.


>>145133351
Come at me, I'll bleed on you.
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>>145133351
BEST WEAPON, COMING THROUGH
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>>145133351
Transformed moveset is so much fun
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>>145133351
Claimed
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AXE
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>>145133410
Never implied that, you slut. That's why I'm upset about him tossing around my boytoy.
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Trying to make a character that looks like pre-beast Ludwig.
Any suggestions so far?
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REMOVE WHEEL POSTERS
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>>145133812
>watches as his boyfriend gets repeatedly pounded in the ass by a horse
>I am the slut

wew lad
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>>145133931
We have no idea what pre-beast Ludwig looked like.

Just give him a long face.
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>>145133931
Pretty nice lad
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THE BEST
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>>145134016
Yeah that's mostly what i'm going for based on his mid-fight cutscene, but I was curious if anybody had any tidbits that'd help out.
The most i've gathered is a long face with somewhat droopy eyes.
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>>145133931
Try to copy this
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>>145134195
Looks like WoW fanart
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>>145133931
This looks really familiar for some reason.
Does he look a bit like a beardless Count Dooku to anyone?
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>>145133931
I had someone join a game in which I was helping with Ludwig's name and title and they had the fucking beast ruin equipped. I was triggered, shook to my core really. When he died I did a cheeky clap oh and he looks good anon
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>>145134181
I don't think his rapehorse face is going to be a very accurate template for what he once looked like, on account of being rapehorse
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>>145133931
You can get a feel for his face from his non-horse side.
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>>145134195
I always took him as an older gentleman, similar to Gehrman.
>>145134327
Like >>145134390 said, half of his face seems to resemble what he looked like pre-transformation.
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>>145133931
>>145134390

Forgot pic
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>>145134528
Not really. You mentioned him having a long face and droopy eyes. Do you think that's because he originally had a long face and droopy eyes, or because he's a beastly rapehorse with giant rapehorse skull?
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>>145133931
>>145134181
His relatively unfucked half looks like Caesar.
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I don't get this playthrough. Easy bosses are wrecking me. The One Reborn just trashed me in a minute.
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>>145131349
The Holy Blade sounds the best.
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>>145134869
Well the rape horse aspect of his face seems more focused on his right than his left, which seems very intentionally resembling his original face.
I mean yeah it was warped by the transformation still, but it still looks like a determined older man.
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>no one will ever love you enough to make a perfect life-sized doll of you to keep as company and offer it to strangers to "use"
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>>145134958
Nevermind I just killed it in literally one combo.
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>>145134958
Iktf. My first playthrough I trounced Papa G, BSB, and Vicar Amelia no problem. On my second playthrough I could not kill Papa G to save my life. I even had to cheese the fight I was getting so frustrated (hung back and through molotovs at him).
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>>145134958
Did he trash the framerate, too? Person in charge of one reborn who thought up the bright idea to drop a bunch of enemies with particles effect attacks out the ass together for an encounter should be shot.
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>>145135986
Naw, framerate was fine. Killed the Chime Maidens, dropped down on his putrid ass, and then went to town with the Tonitrus. He didn't manage a single attack after that.
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Where should my END be at the end-game? I just killed One Reborn (not the anon talking about it) and it's at 20 right now. I don't feel very motivated to put it higher but an extra attack in my combos would be nice I suppose.
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>>145135986
Leaving the chime maidens alive and playing at 2fps is the only way to make ToR a fair a fight.
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>>145136303
I left mine off at 25 and kinda regret getting it that high.
Under pretty much no circumstances do I need to be able to swing untricked Ludwig's that many times, and swinging tricked Ludwig's that many times just gets me killed because everything reasonable staggers in two hits.

20 is fine, as far as I can tell.
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>>145136303
I wouldn't put an other point into it, it's fine there. If you feel you need more put on a rune.

>>145136307
kek
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>>145136303
Depending on your weapon you'd need anywhere between 1-5 extra points to get an extra attack.

If you're happy with 20, stick with 20. A lot of people refer to 15-20 as the sweet spot, and I personally never go above 15. If you feel you need more later there are runes to compensate too.
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>>145136503
Yeah I'll probably keep it here then. I'm using the cane and the chikage (cane for crowd control/distance only when needed) so it's not like I eat up a lot of stamina when attacking.
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>>145136303
You should know that some people leave it at base value
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You guys told me Laurence was a shit fight. Why would you lie like that?
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>not gesturing after I do all the work and beat this boss for your faggot ass.

I'm going to find you
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>>145137112
It's literally just Cleric Beast but halfway through he falls down and starts shitting lava on the floor

It's the Blue Smelter of Bloodborne
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>>145137264
After I finish helping someone with a boss. I Madaras Whisle out as my exit.
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>>145137264
>Beating the boss for them and not intentionally dragging them towards your worthless host

It's like you're not a petty, spiteful cunt, anon.
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>>145137320
At least the music is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3XXGmu-dw
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>>145137264
Just do what I do and message them ASOIAF/GoT spoilers

>>145137320
That's like saying Elana is literally Nashandra. His moveset was totally different.
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>>145137112
He's basically the Firesage Demon. A rehash of an early boss with fire effects and AoEs tacked onto everything.
He comes across as especially low-effort when you compare him to the rest of the A+ fights in the DLC.
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>>145137786
>His moveset was totally different.
Adding an explosion to everything is not "totally different"

Blue smelter is a little bit of a stretch though, when he starts shitting lava it does change things up quite a bit. Not that its a good fight but they at least tried.

Still a little confused as to why he was spewing lava and fire in the first place though. Any lore reason he was a firey cleric beast or is it just LOL FIRE
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So what stats should I be going for with the Crow Wheel?
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>>145137978
The game mentions fire a few times as being a cleansing thing hunters used. Dunno the connection to the Healing Church or whatever faction Laurence was with.
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>>145137489
If someone is a shitter I'll do this but it was one of those fast paced bosses so I didn't notice much

>>145137786
I knew there was a reason I read those shitty books.
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Just got my shit knocked in by Ludwig, what the fuck do I do about him when he's still in beast form?
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>>145138026
Str or Arc depending on which one you'd rather use to purge with the glorious wheel with. Also level up vit to 45-50 and end to whatever is comfortable.
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So how does the Hunter of hunters rune work?
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>>145137978
>Not that its a good fight but they at least tried.
I'm confused at why you think its a bad fight.

>Any lore reason he was a firey cleric beast or is it just LOL FIRE
Laurence was obsessed about the evolution of man. Beasts are all weak to fire. A fire beast is a superior being to other beasts as it takes away that weakness.

But yeah, you went full retard comparing Laurence to Blue Smelter, not sure what the fuck crawled up your ass there.
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>Logarius' scythe/sword combo will never be a trick weapon you can use
>SKL's answer to the HMLS that allows you to use his arcane skull shit as projectiles
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Well I just spent a couple hours reading 107 pages of Bloodborne lore theory and now I'm a little upset
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wee, nobody knows how to fight Ebrietas

I can't beat her on my own, but goddamn host, don't sit there while I wail at her back with my dinky electro-mace
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>>145138812
Summon the guy next to the fog. ezpz.
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>>145138859
I'm not the Host, I like being a summon. Relatively risk-free, I get Blood Echoes, and warm fuzzies. Good time. Hosts are just often idiots. Had one guy on Rom who didn't know to jump into the lake.
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>>145138339
If you put it on and ring small resonant, there is a chance you'll get PvP with the beckoner when you join their world. Some say its linked with use of the sinister bell, others reckon its NPC murdering. In saying that though, password summons are a lot more likely to get HoH PvP than in general co-op.
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>>145138581
>Amy Arm will never get a corresponding rune to give you actual Amy Arms
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>>145138247
Stick to his sides, never ever stand in front of him. Dodge through him and hammer away at him. Don't stand behind him or you'll get kicked. When he jumps and stays on the ceiling, just run in a circle for a second and then run straight, you'll be fine as long as you keep running straight.

>>145139534
I just wanted that fucking arcane explosion.

At least Amy Arm is still awesome as fuck.
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>SSRC
>Host has two summoners get to the boss and it's a Loran Silverbeast

How embarrassing.

>>145138963
I have seen that.
Or, one of my favorites.

>BSB
>they go through the fog, run up a little bit, run back to you I'm already spamming the point gesture, they go again and come back
>they hesitate for a few seconds and finally start the fight
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>>145139976
You know, I guess it's a good thing. It means that even after a year, the game is still getting new players.

(I mean, I just started a week ago.)
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I have this problem where I can never use any strength weapons other than the Hunters Axe, because it feels like either they're too slow, they don't do enough damage or both.
Any tips for adjusting to slower weapons?
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>>145139976
>Loran Silverbeast is unironically a Depth 5 Boss.
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>>145140062
No, I agree it's entertaining at least. Hell, I only got BB a month ago. I've been clueless as shit many times
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>>145140121
Be less aggressive with them.

It's counter-intuitive in BB since it teaches you to be super aggressive, but if you treat it more like Dark Souls, the heavy weaponry will make more sense. Once you get Str high enough (or BLT if you're using the bloodletter or a cannon or something) then you'll be doing insane damage with every hit and it just becomes a matter of making sure they don't hit you back.
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>>145140372
I'm in the same boat. I remember when I was getting my shit stomped on by Gascoigne.
Now I'm getting my shit stomped on by Ludwig and looking back fondly.
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>>145140352
Depth 5 Root Chalices mang

What a thrill
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>>145140439
Thanks.
On that topic, I think one of the reasons all the str weapons feel underpowered is because my Hunter's axe is +9 with full physical runes, while I can't get the whirligig Saw above +3 right now.
Where's the best place to grind for Twin Blood Shards?
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>>145139976
SRRC is self aware, and it holds nothing but spite for its human masters

>Finish farming watchers for bloodtinge gems
>nearly 2000 runs in y592byza
>finally have full 31.5% gems
>want to show off my sick DPS to randos in co-op
>Use SRRC
>Connect to some guy in an Isz chalice
>after co-op session ends, I go to clear away the dungeon from the SRRC so I can use it again
>notice the glyph as I'm deleting it
>y592byza
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>>145140372
Hah. I've yet to beat Gehrman, but I get the feeling I'll be able to trounce him easily enough, should I try.

Currently exploring Arcane options, and it's a boatload of fun. May just start fucking around in Chalice Dungeons, but I got no clue what to do with those...

Basically there's a lot of shit I don't know and I'm glad there are new players going through the same process.
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>>145140658

If your Hunter Axe is at +9, you should have beaten Rom already, right? Grab the Cosmic Eye Watcher badge and you can buy twin blood shards.

It's like 10k bloodbux each though.
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>>145140497
I feel everything you feel.

What I would give to play this again for the first time.
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>>145140698
>Beckoner decides to take you through the first bonus area
>Kills Watcher
>Messages you asking if a 31.5 stam down radial is any good
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>>145140658
Farm Blood Echoes and buy them. If not, Forbidden Forest was full of riches for me.
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>>145140658
There are fucktons of Twin shards in the Forbidden woods, and once you kill Rom you can buy them for 2 Insight.

My most recent build was Str/Blt, and while I was working towards getting the Bloodletter I started using the whilykajigger to hold me over, and HOLY FUCK it's so fun.

If you haven't killed Rom, then the snatchers drop twin shards pretty frequently as well.
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And now begins the adventures of H.P. CrowWheel!
Is there any better way to upload screenshots than to twitter then just copy paste here?
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>>145140741

Chalice Dungeons are dungeon crawls. Fight shit, find loot, don't die from traps. They're great.

Although the early chalice dungeons are disgustingly easy it turns out, since I went and waited until right before GEHRMAN, FIRST OF HUNTER to do them.
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>>145140658
>Why is my +9 weapon better than my +3 weapons?
Shit nigger you had to ask?

If you have the chunks to +9 the Axe you should be able to buy TBSs with Insight from the Insight bath.

Otherwise Forbidden Woods is littered with them. You can't move ten paces without finding one you can just pick up off the floor and run along with without even engaging enemies. Sackmen in Hypogean Gaol are best for farming when you run out of ones to pick up. If there are no Sackmen, you can buy them for 2 Insight a piece which is nothing.
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>>145140741
If you haven't touched the Chalices yet at that point, you're going to be bored to death and possibly beyond going through the early ones. You're suppoed to start them before even killing Amelia. Just push through until Depth 4 and you'll realize that this ain't no game anymore.
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>>145141005
>chunks cost twenty mindbux

Por que
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>>145140901
He wasn't on layer 1. I would've noticed right away if it were layer 1.

I would've been happy for him if that had happened. Except actually he was an asshole who took me through the entire layer, then blanked me and the other phantom out at the bossfog, so he can fuck himself I hope he gets -%ATK for the rest of his life.
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>>145140962
>Is there any better way to upload screenshots than to twitter then just copy paste here?


>twitter
lelwat

>take ss
>copy to usb
>plug usb into pc
>clean metadata and upload to 4chanabanana
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>>145141115
Well fuck, how long can they possibly take?

I was scared to do them. Did it once and got perforated by new frightening things.
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>>145140962
If you upload it to Facebook, you can get it to be full 1920x1080 resolution. You need a bit of trickery to get it to work. You might be able to do that with Twitter as well, if you put :orig at the end of the Twitter image URL.

You can also just put them on a USB.
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>>145141237

Like 17 minutes tops for the first few chalices

You will enjoy the novelty of melting through the early chalice bosses like they're butter and your weapon is a heated dick
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>>145141120
>wishing for him to get -atk down
>not wishing for the trash that is warm offshapes
I guess they're kind of the same in the end. Shit to the point of unusable.
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>>145141120
>took me through the entire layer, then blanked me and the other phantom out at the bossfog

What the actual fuck?!!

How does this benefit them in ANY way?
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>>145141005
Thanks. I know the reason that my axe does so much damage is because I've spent all game upping it, so before I dive into using the Beast Cutter or Amy's arm I need more runes and more bloodstone because goddamn apparently I haven't been farming it efficiently.
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>>145141232
>>145141305
You see, I don't have a USB on han and everyone else is asleep in my house so I can't exactly look for one.
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>>145141327
>novelty

Oooh, that's a clever use of words, I like it. After I beat Pthmeru I get the Rooted Chalice thing, da?
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>>145141237
It's going to be a cake walk for awhile I'd say you'll notice at Alling Loran but it's pretty funny the first few Chalices
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>>145141305
>upload it to Facebook
Jesus fucking Summer...
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>>145141369
Have you done any Chalice Dungeons yet? Going through the first few depths with unupgraded weapons is a good way of testing them out without a bunch of farming.
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>>145141428

First-time Ailing Loran was probably my favourite chalice.

>that difficulty spike
>that increased dungeon size
>those traps and tricks
>that moment I walked out into a massive cave system with bridges fucking everywhere and realized that I was no longer in Yharnam
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>>145141237
If you follow a speedrun guide and have already beaten the game, you can get through the first 3 depths in, like, 20 minutes if you don't die. That's gameplay, not including the time it takes you to read and understand the guide.

Depth 1 and 2 will be a cakewalk, Depth 3 will be easy-ish but can still fuck you up if you're not taking it seriously. Depth 4 and 5 are suitably challenging for somebody who's beaten the game.
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>>145141515
Finished the first one you get, keep forgetting to start the second.
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>>145141562

>Flaming Crocomire for the first time
>hey why is this boss actually hurting me, jeez
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>>145141338
idk, layers themselves are a harder than bosses in many FRC dungeons. And if he dies to the boss, it's a quick run back.
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>>145141426
>After I beat Pthmeru I get the Rooted Chalice thing, da?
Yes, but that will be a Root Chalice for the easy dungeons. There are Roots for every depth, so you won't want to bother with them for depths 1-3.

Basically: Do first Pthumeru dungeon.
2nd boss will give you Root chalice, at this point you don't care though. Finish floor 3 and you get the Central Pthumeru chalice. Same thing there. Finish floor 3 in Central to get Lower.

Rinse and Repeat to get depth 4 (Defiled), use the Loran chalices from killing Amygdala to unlock the Defiled chalice dungeon, then have FUN*****.
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>>145141380
Twitter or FB's all you have, then. If you use Twitter open the image in a new tab and it'll have .jpg:large at the end. Replace large with orig to make them look a little less like shit.
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>>145141554
Loran is fucking awesome with the sandstorms and electrical storms.
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>>145141369
Just pick a weapon or two to focus on for now. When you get down to the lower dungeons where the average enemy shits out 10k+ echoes, then you can start throwing echoes at upgrade materials. Just saves you having to farm anymore items than what the main game already supplies.
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>>145141659
More like

>oh look this dude again
>eh not too bad
>MOTHERFUCKER WHY CAN HE OHKO ME?!?!?
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>>145141686
It mostly depends on the boss, since a lot of the big ones can one-shot you in FRCs, but even then, why blank them out?
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>>145141691
>Defiled chalice

THEY TOLD ME 40 VIT WAS ENOUGH

I'M GETTING TWOSHOTTED BY HOLLOWS
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>>145142097
You really want 44 to 50 vit with a Health run if you can manage it. That said, I beat all of the chalices with 30 vit.

What kind of build are you using and what weapons?
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Ah yes, can I get a ride to the church Mr. Coachmen?
Alright, let's see how .orig turns out
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>>145142097
Vit doesn't matter for cursed chalices. You're fucked if you get hit. Have fun. It's worth the trouble in the end if only to be able to say you got gud.
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Speaking of chalices, I was hanging around looking for lore shit when I watched a Vaati video (>implying implications) and he gave all kinds of info regarding lore he got from the chalice dungeons. I have yet to see a single piece of writing or lore info in the dungeons. Is he just doing his typical >pic related faggotry or do I find more info later (I'm only on depth 3 so far).
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>>145142605
>Vaati
>not just plagiarizing /bbg///dsg/ autism

Some retard must've shown up here talking about chalice dungeon l'oer and Vaati thought it was good enough for a video.

soulslore.jpg there is probably spot-on.
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Is the DLC overall worth it if I'm enjoying the base game? Felt a bit slighted by Artorias of the Abyss, but Bloodborne may be better than DaS.
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>>145143250
Absolutely. I utterly despise DLC, but AotA and Old Hunters I can forgive, as they're excellent. If you didn't like Artorias then I can't say you'll love OH, but it's a great supplement to the base game.

What exactly did you have a problem with in Artorias? That would help determine if you'd appreciate Old Hunters or not.
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>>145142605
There are some things you can pick up just by playing and being observant in them. One example was posted in this thread or the last one.

It's commonly believed that Rom was created from ascending a Byrgenwerth student, but the Chalice Dungeons prove that this is wrong. When we fight Yharnam she is visibly pregnant with Mergo and we find Ebrietas in Isz, despite the fact Ebrietas is a unique being and we see she's under the Grand Cathedral. This proves that the Chalice Dungeons we visit are some kind of vision into the past, likely a Nightmare Realm. As well as Ebrietas we find in them Amygdala and Rom.

This isn't to say that Vaati's stuff is at all to be taken as more than over-the-top speculation, just that there is lore to be found in the CDs.
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>>145143361
Ehhhh, it just felt overall lacking in content. Some mediocre weapons and areas, but the bosses were kickass and the lore was great.

I still haven't beaten Manus.
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>>145143250
Go for it. DLC has some of the best bosses, enemies, weapons and other content.

BLOOD NOOOWWW
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>>145143250
For the areas alone, I would say no, but add in all the new weapons, and I would would say it is well worth it. If the new weapons look interesting to you then definitely get it.
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>>145143250
I would say it's definitely worth it, but then I enjoyed AotA as well.
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>>145143432
Well if you liked the bosses then you should like Old Hunters.

I agree the forest area in Artorias was utter shit (though I love the Township), but OH's areas are all on Township level as opposed to whatever-the-fuck-it-was Forest.

Especially the Hamlet.
Oh god the Hamlet is incredible.
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>>145143432
ToH is longer than AotA, it has some of the best weapons in the game, it has transformations that aren't shitty like the DaS dragons, and it has some of the best bosses.
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>>145143375
Rom is an probably an ascendant student though. Just because there is more than one doesn't change that. It just means that Rom is a type of great one rather than individual being. All the Amy Gs show this is possible.
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>>145143661
Township was pretty good, not sure what bugs me about it... maybe it just feels like the Burg.

OH's weapons look goddamn stellar though, as do the bosses. Haven't had a game that's made me nervous to fight a boss in a long while, and OH seems to take the difficulty to an absurd degree.
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>>145143250
Yeah it's worth it, Bosses are fantastic and it doubles the weapon count

>>145143473
I don't honestly know why I'm replying to you but what makes you say the areas aren't worth it? All 3 of them were good additions to the game
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>>145143742
The difference with the Amagdalae is that all of the ones that AREN'T the two bosses have tentacles coming from their mouths.
I'm willing to believe the CDs=Nightmare past theory. Though on the other hand there IS the Rom-esque fossil/corpse at the Altar of Despair.

In any case I don't believe it's particularly important in the overall scheme of things whether the Rom we fight at the Moonside Lake was created in Byrgenwerth or simply discovered by the scholars there.
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>>145143250
>felt a bit slighted by Artorias of the Abyss
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>>145143941
It was short as fuck, the weapons sucked, the areas were either dull or too short. The only highlight was the bosses, which were actually damn good.
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>>145143941
In his defense, who actually liked that bullshit forest part?
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>>145144105
I thought the transition into the goopy abyss part of the forest was neat. That was about it though
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>>145144105
The forest takes like 10 minutes to explore; it's too short to hate.
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>>145143838
The asylum and fishing village are way too short, and Maria didn't even have a level in front of her. Going from a boss, stepping into the next room with another boss immediately felt lame.

That alone is not worth the price they were asking.

>>145144023
Kalameet's tail weapon and the dark magic were pretty impressive actually.

Most people that bought DaS1 at launch were okay with the DLC because we were just craving more at that point.
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>>145143742
Amygdalas come in two varieties. There are those with tentacles growing out of their face, and the one without tentacles growing out of its face, the one we fight as a boss. Patches talks about his god a lot, his Lord Amygdala, and when you kill the boss Amygdala Patches laments its death and talks about going in search of a new god. If they were all the same he'd just pick a new one out of the four or so that are sitting around, therefore they're not all the same, Amygdala is an individual being.

Have you ever wondered why Patches is a spider? Why there are spiders with faces in the NoM? Why there's one random giant spider in the Nightmare of Mensis? Why they're specifically called Nightmare Apostles? Eight legs of the spider. Eight legs of Amygdala.
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>>145143827
As I said before, DLC disgusts me (especially cuck souls 2/3 with their motherfucking call of duty season doritoes passes, seriously what the actual fuck is going on there), but I have zero regrets about Old Hunters, and DS1/BB were the only games solid enough to make me take the expansions seriously, instead of just seeing them as shallow cash-grabs.
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>>145144263
Kalameet's tail was Eh/10. It had nice base damage so you didn't have to sink stats, but for the kinda builds that typically use swords like that, Zwei and Dragon Greatsword are both better alternatives due to high scaling.

Dark magic WAS top-tier, though. I miss how hilariously good Souls magic was, seems Bloodborne nerfed it to prevent R1 spamming.
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>>145144263
>Maria didn't even have a level in front of her.

To be honest, I was glad I didn't have to go through some bullshit at that point. It felt more like the (You)s were shoved in between the level and Maria than Maria being shoved in after the level and the Failures.
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>>145143936
It's not particularly important whether Henryk is from the same region as where Loran once stood but that won't stop us from debating it.
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>>145144289
I am not even talking about Lord Amy. I am talking about her lesser versions that are all over the place.

>>145144412
It was good because of the stupidly high base damage and the AoE it could do.
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>>145144659
Well, yeah. It was a good sword for the guy who had no investment in STR, basically. AOE was also hilarious.
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>>145144659
They are Mensis Scholars who directly worship and work for/with Amygdala in order to become what they are if Patches is any indication, which he clearly is.

You don't just pop enough insight and then suddenly you become an Amygdala, and you can't just do the same to become a Rom either you fucktard.
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>>145144659
>I am not even talking about Lord Amy.

But the discussion was about the "duplicate" Rom/Amy bosses in the Chalice Dungeons...?
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>>145144841
>become a Rom

Technically, the lesser Amygdalae don't have names; all we know is Lord Amygdala is called Amygdala.

Rom, on the other hand, is clearly the name of that specific instance of a Vacuous Spider.
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>>145144851
I thought the Amy in the chalice Dungeon looked more like the generic Amys in the city rather than Lord Amy in the NF.
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>>145145017
No, it's identical to the Nightmare Frontier boss.
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So what on Earth was Micolash going on about in his spiel? Were they trying to ascend to god-hood? And what created The One Reborn?
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>>145145313
Yeah, they want to become Great Ones. The cultists are basically trying to create/revive a Great One with a physical body on Earth.
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>>145145313
The One Reborn was a bunch of hobbled together corpses that Micolash and his cronies put together in a ritual where they attempted to manually create a Great One.

Obviously it didn't work and they moved on to other methods, AKA dying, either by being murdered by corpse monsters or by entering a nightmare dimension.
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Seriously, guys, I'm on my 9th try on these guys, can anyone help me with the living failures?
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>>145146324
Post a password and i'll head on over.
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>>145146363
Righteous, just a moment,
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>>145146324
>I'm on my 9th try on these guys
How? They are one of the easiest bosses in the entire game.
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>>145146324
>9 tries on the easiest boss of the DLC

The only living failure I see here is you
Or should I say dying failure
Because you're dying a lot
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>>145146363
K! So. Pass is ass.

>>145146570
>>145146550
I dunno, man. Ludwig only took me two tries. Their starfall dealio is murder.
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>>145146687
Ringin'
And you can hide behind the big flower in the middle of the room to avoid the meteors.
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>>145146687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqCRswUFePE
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Thanks, Hunter rune.
Let's try that again anon.
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>>145146687
>Their starfall dealio is murder.
You know the flower stalk will block all the meteors. They all come from the same side, just stand on the opposite side of it.
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>Ludwig talks about seeing a "guiding light in the dark" or whatever
>right after his bossfight there's a little dark alcove in a big church with glowing yellow lights in it
>go inside and it's the eyes of giant rat monsters that appear nowhere else in the main game

Is this some kind of DEEPEST LORE thing or what?
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>>145147047
no, you're just an idiot
>>
Eesh, sorry about gaybot. Wanna try again?

>>145147020
>>145146824
Yeh, TY.
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>>145147223
oh
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>>145147252
Yeah, i'm still ringing. Hopefull HoH won't activate again.
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>>145147047
>My true mentor. My guiding moonlight.
>Even in this darkest of nights, I see...the moonlight...
>Holy Moonlight Sword
>A Great One associated with the Moon guides hunters

Yeah he just meant those rats.
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>>145147345
I don't mean he was just staring at rats all day.
More just a metaphorical implication that he was being tricked by shit that looked like lights but was really something malevolent or otherwise nothing special at all.

Mostly I just want an explanation for why those weird goddamn rats were there guarding dick-all.
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>>145147309
Ah, you weren't faygitron? Well. Thanks for trying!

And to you, Homobot, my thanks. Wherever you are.
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>>145147480
So that some retard would look at their eyes in the darkness and think holy shit that must be something special and be so disappointed by finding rats he has to attribute some kind of deeper meaning to it because Miyazaki hates you specifically.
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>>145147562
Yeah, I was the guy who had HoH activate and whacked you a few times because i'm a big bully.
Oh well.
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>>145147630
First time that happened to me, I don't summon often. I was wondering "Oh, I wonder what homie done to glow purple?"
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>>145147754
First time it happened to me too.
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>>145147619
Jesus christ man you don't have to be so hostile and literal at all times just so you can look cool on 4chan

I even said "DEEPEST LORE" because I knew it was a dumb question and you're getting very angry and brash
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>>145147829
I'm sorry Anon, I didn't realise you had an ego made of glass, next time I shall be more careful to not hurt your little girl feelings.
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>>145147829
Calm down fag
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>>145148357
>>145148698
why are you people so mean
what made you this way
i'm being completely nice and you're just being mean for no reason
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>>145148759
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>>145148759
Suck my dick fgt
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>>145148917
It took me until a second ago to realize this was a Cool Cat joke
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>>145148759
Man you're actually so fucking retarded

Kill yourself already you waste of fucking air
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>>145150453
now you're just doing it on purpose
that's just sick and perverted
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>tfw Defiled Amygdala is kicking my ass so hard I'm considering upgrading the Gatling Gun and cheesing him from range

>>145146114
>The One Reborn was a bunch of hobbled together corpses that Micolash and his cronies

Micolash has been dead for a long time in the waking world. His corpse is all mummified. Fucking up Yahargul and making TOR was the Pthumerians' doing, not Micolash. Micolash did nothing wrong. NOTHING.
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>>145150860
>His corpse is all mummified
This could just be an effect of HIGH IMPACT COSMIC VIOLENCE
It's also very plainly stated that Yahar'gul was Mensis' base of operations, and I find it unlikely that it's just coincidence that a chinese bootleg Great One was being created there AND the Pthumerians were there

My guess is Mensis dragged a bunch of Pthumerians up to the surface to help with the ritual, and once Micolash and his students fucked off to go die, they started running the place

Hell, considering that weird theory that the music in pre-Rom Yahar'gul is actually the Mensis students singing, the ritual might have been going on up until you killed Rom
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>reach Gehrman on my pure ARC build
>start spamming EG with blood bullet refills
>he literally just walks into every single shot without even attempting to dodge
>he only attacked once the entire "fight"
You think they would've anticipated this shit and programmed his AI to avoid it.
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>>145151217
Aren't the only pthumerians in Yahar'gul the bell ringers? Those are in the nightmare, it could be whatever sent mensis into the nightmare pulled them out. The bell ringers don't show up until after Rom so that could work. Although unless time works differently in the nightmare I doubt Micolash would be acting the way he is after only being in there for an hour.
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Who /Eileen/ here?
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>>145152503
Every new game I kill her by cheesing her in that one corner of her starting room.
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>>145152503
She's alright.
Fauxsefka's better.
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>>145152503
>>145152896
>not delicious Yurie
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>>145150860
need help with amygdala?
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could use om help with rom the bull shit spider
in bergenwyrth

sl40
pass is :1942
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>>145154207
On my way.
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>>145154737
aight, ill be ringing
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>>145154737
thanks m8
>>
Ahh...
>>
...you were at my side all along
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>>145155991
Or some say, Kosm.
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>>145156089
You found yourself a hunter.
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>>145156226
Beasts are a curse, and a curse is a shackle.
>>
MORE BLOOD
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Uncanny is the best choice for HMS and Parasite right?
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>>145157018
Lost for hmls
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>>145157036
Thanks
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>gold ardeo has the best bolt resist for the helm slot
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>>145157018
Radial/Radial/Triangle for HMLS if gemming physical, blunt, or +%phys/+flat. RRT or Lost for Nourishing, depending on preference. Lost gives higher overall %, but RRT allows you to get +15 flat secondary in all 3 gem slots, whereas with Lost you can only get +15 flat on 2 gems, since Waning doesn't roll with +15 flat physical or arcane.

RRT for Parasite.
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>>145156968
BLOOD NOW
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>>145133351
All mine then.
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>>145136303
Just get a stamina rune
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>>145157574
UUAAAAAAAAAA
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>>145158814
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAOUGH
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>>145133351
S M A S H I N G
>>
So going through the chalices until Cursed/Defiled Pthumeru, what weapon should I use with 25/50 str/arc? I plan on getting the uncanny logarius' wheel but should I just use the normal one until I get to cursed/defiled?
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>>145159413
Well since you already have an endgame plan it won't matter as much on what you use beforehand. Either stick with wheel or throw some fire gems onto a whirlimeme or saw spear with those stats.
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NEW THREAD

>>145159970

>>145159970

>>145159970

>>145159970
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>>145160005
Why so soon?

At least wait till the post meter turns red.
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>>145138624
l downloaded the paleblood hunt too and put in into my kindle to read. l read the intro and it was superb
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>>145161443
this, /bbg/ is slow, there is no reason to make a new thread before the bump limit
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>>145160005
Fuck you
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>>145160005
I agree with that other anon. Fuck you.
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