/twg/ - Total War General

Agents? Which are the best. Which are useless?

I know the dwarf engineer is fantastic for softening up cities before you hit them. Slow dwarves love the enemy having no working towers.

VC agents. Banshee for assassination and Wight King in the army. But what are necromancers and vampires good for?

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"Buy the new Animations Pack for only $4.99"

>>144948435
Necromancers are good for MONEY
Vampires are good for fapping and Lore of Death

>>144948435
Vampire for VC is also nice for that leech spell

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What FW units do you want to see added, /twg/?

>>144948454
>excuse me, just clipping through

>>144948234
>>144948234
send tunes

>>144948435
banshees are god tier, assassination and block army are basically the two most useful things in an agent, AND they can make holes in walls, which as VC is great because all your units are melee so you wanna git in there

>>144948604
Kholek campaign
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41u_JH4sggE

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The Skaven are coming. Be warned.

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>>144948554

>>144948604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O63COyZlTyU

>>144948554
Demons, where the hell are my demons?

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>>144948554
All of their greater daemons.

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

I'm using QT vampires for combat for the first time, and I was wondering if it's worth giving them horses?

>>144948980

Yes to better keep them out of combat. They're supposed to be spamming Fate of Bjuna + Spirit Leech, not fighting

>>144948815
>you will never be tactically raped by daemonettes

why live

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>144949018
Also remember to exclusively use quarrelers as dwarfs and demigryphs as empire, actually remember to just exclusively play empire

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>>144948554
Fimir, I'd love to see those one-eyed rapists added.
Otherwise, Chaos Dwarfs and War Mammoths.

>>144949110
PoM on suicide watch

>>144949018
Really? I thought they were good at melee combat. Fug.

>>144948271
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>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)

>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation


Old >>144903493

>>144949191

No, Wight Kings are your rip and tear heroes.

>>144949216
>There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!

100% if you're overcasting fireball.

>>144949286
Really? That's interesting, have to try when I'm back home

>>144949276
But they aren't cute girls :'(

>>144949191

No that's banshees

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>>144948271
Rollan!

>>144949191
They do fine in combat, don't listen to the min/maxers. They also can give you a huge boost to unit replenishment like Warrior Priests.

>>144949345
I was just joking about 100%, but my fire mage has blown himself up 3-4 times in a row every battle I use him in.

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i finished my chaos and greenskin campaigns without a single crash, and since starting vc today i've crashed 4 times fuck this gay eath

>>144949628
Lel, I know that feel too with overcast Invocation of Nehek

>>144949719
I hacked you kiddo

>lord with barded horse
>rest of army is 100% demis
>decisive victory

Loving this pvp CA

>>144948435
Vampires are monsters on the battlefield, Spirit leech, vamp magic and double regeneration? Yes please

>Maintain control of 20 provinces

Holy fuck I can already tell that this VC campaign is going to have me wanting to kill myself near the end. I don't know if I even want to finish it. I'm only on turn 83 and the Chaos isn't even here ye.t

>town sacked by orcs
>left behind a giant pile of shit
>attack orc stronghold in retaliation
>towers throwing balls of dung at my troops
>piles of shit all over the city map
By Sigmar, NO!

>>144949191
Ignore no-fun-allowed minmaxers, vampires are perfectly fine in melee, just remember that vampires can heal themselves

A steed means you are getting fucked by anti-large, but you get stun immunity and better mobility so choose if it's worth it

>>144950104
VC have some of the worst campaign goals(unless you play orcs and forgot that you needed raiding income to win)
you gotta
>control 20 provinces
>defeat the empire, dwarves, and bretonnia
>defeat chaos
>have corruption all over the place

>>144950243
Raiding income wasn't even a problem for me. I realized that sacking didn't count towards it so I set up 3 armies in raiding stance and ended turn 4-5 times and finished my campaign.

>sign peace treaty with AI
>hehe now I'll raid them like they did to me
>raiding button doesn't show up
Epic

Which Chaos Knights do people prefer, with or without lances?

>>144950871
I only use Lances, Shock Cavalry is just too good

How does splash damage work? For example, if Grimgor deals 1000 damage on hit, will he kill infantry units in 6-7 hits on ultra?

>>144949450
Roland

>>144951045
its spread out among the models.from what i've seen

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WAAAGH!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrLPb-Ik5BI

NOW DIS IZ A WAAAGH! ALL GOOD N PROPPA...WITH ME AS WARBOSS

>>144951275
those marauders are going to die so hard

>>144951045
As long as he's facing the right way I think he kills the appropriate amount of guys. Sometimes it takes a little lord micro when you notice he's on the edge of the formation and swinging at one guy on the outside.

>>144951110
Just did empire so fuck that. Re roll

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HAHAHAHAHA
BEHOLD THE MIGHT OF THE HERALD OF FAMINE
modding is fun

>>144951275
i like how the marauders look
shame they are the most annoying factions in game

>>144951432
?

>>144951471
I WILL DRINK FROM YOUR SKULL
Oh wait wrong game

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>>144951410
>>144951110

>>144951359
the bjornlings showed up to raid the southern badlands just as I finished building my savage orc stack

unlucky for them

>>144951432
What did you end up changing?

>>144951514
Come, sit, share my fire

WE ARRRE THE DARK FOREST


Seriously, how much has that single voice actor been paid over the course of 3 games

>>144951537
it gives regen like master of undead in 45m radius and -10 melee att/ -15 melee defense in 30m radius
it needs tweaking, but it's already a huge improvement
I'll put it up on workshop later so I can get some feedback.

Alright friends, after playing a bunch of the Empire I really want to go back and play some Medieval 2 and fuck people up with Heavy Cavalry.

Does anyone have any tips? I'm pretty new to the game and I'm probably playing as France.

still cant win as counts on hard

either get fucked by meme chaos or meme orks

retarded

>>144951824
Build memewalls and vanquish stacks during memesieges

>>144951737
Good work, anon.

>>144951824
Build walls every-fucking-where, you'll pretty much never lose a city again

>>144951824
>faction mechanic of vampiric corruption
>causes attrition damage to anyone entering to encourage hojo gameplay
>AI gets anti-attrition bonuses and basically ignores all of this

>>144949154
Before Warhammer Fantasy was killed off I were really close to buy a bunch of those and a doombull converted to a Fimir king or something and use them as Throgg and chaos trolls, maybe throwing in some giants and other monsters as well.

Damn you GW

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is Karl Franz literally retarded, he has SIX stacks of units, four of which are full, and they're just sitting around doing absolutely nothing while the forces of Chaos and Norsca annihilate the good citizens and raze their towns to the ground, shit, he doesn't even have to contest with the Vampire Counts, I'm dealing with them, on top of defeating three chaos armies so far. I've finally bothered setting war co-ordination targets for him, but I mean, it's less "war co-ordination" and "karl you realize half your country has been burned to the ground, maybe send your giant armies to do something about it".

>>144952067
Killing FB in June after CA announced TWW in April was the most retarded move possible

>>144951824
>>144951918
>>144952001

Exactly. I am currently on my VC hard playthrough. Dwarfs (the few that are still alive) and orcs are running all around my lands and not once did they attack me. Only when enemy can muster 3 stacks do they dare to start a siege. And if they do they stay in it long enough for my own stack to come to aid and run them down.

>>144950871
Demigryph knights :^)

>>144952238
>implying Karl hasn't already been corrupted by Tzeentch and all is well

ARE YOU A GOD

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>tfw play vampire shits on hard
>take over everything
>now all I need to do is kill the dwarves
>mfw they took over the entire fucking badlands

holy fuck I don't have the autism to deal with that shit.

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>>144948604
for when tomb kings are announced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

>>144951985
thanks

Patch when?

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OOGA BOOGA WHERE DA MODS AT?

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Inquanock deliver review of Total War Warhammer

http://www.inquanock.com/2016/06/videogame-review-why-i-dont-like-total.html

>>144953313
>Today i decide to kick arses of Total War Warhammer creators

Off to a good start I see.

>>144953202
tomorrow

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>>144952001
Sometimes you lose cities.
There was 9 hellcannons in all of that

>>144951824

Stop camping Sylvania and expand

>>144953313
that's one of the most autistic things i've ever read

>>144953313
Who?

>>144952719
ETERNAL WAR!!

>>144953547
Yeah, lost one too, nearly took them fucking viking apes down but then all my Empire shit troops broke

>>144952719
Just go for short victory

How do you change battle difficulty but not campaign difficulty?

>>144953313
>As expected TW Warhammer is a crap.
Did he even play it?

>>144949450
Rolling

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>settlements of wattle and daub
Laying SIEGE
TO THEIR HOVELS

>>144951824
Im doing well now on my third try as them on hard

You just gotta try harder and longer

>>144953714
Options -> Campaign Settings -> Battle Difficulty

>>144953313
I'm glad they didn't make TW AoS, because this guy would have jumped

>>144953809
Thanks anon, forgive my idiocy. I thought it would be before starting the campaign.

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>>144953313
This is without a doubt the stupidest thing I have ever read.
>mfw it praises s1 for historical accuracy
>the game with hero units more overpowered than the warhammer ones

>>144953754
>hoveltonnia

One more reason to exterminate them all.

>>144953313
>All that verbal diarrhea just constantly saying everything ever is shit
>Actual review is one single paragraph calling literally every aspect of the game shit without actually saying why it is or straight up lying
>Add to that the broken ass english

You're kidding me, right?

>>144953893
>I thought it would be before starting the campaign.
No problem, that was actually the case until Shogun 2 I think

>>144953624
Closing a phyrric victory againts chaos.. YES!!! Just hold that one gate and wipe out the hounds etc who cant climb... like 4 guys who routed down from the walls decide to get back and cap the point....valiant defeat...........

>>144953996
I hope he is. The review is basically:

>some of the previous games sucked
>the company behind the backstory sucks

>therefore, the game sucks

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>>144954247
You only needed one good guy defending the point

>Constant coop desyncs after 120 turns

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>>144953913
>>144954260
>>144953728
>>144953605

Shamelessly shilling my mod.
I need scrubs to test it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=700271418

>playing empire makes me want to play Medieval 2
>It's ridiculously fucking janky

In my very first battle I charge my heavy cavalry into the back of their shieldman and the horses run at the dude and just stop right before hitting him for literally no reason.

WASD doesn't move the camera so I'm reaching my arm across my keyboard to use the arrow keys

Holy fuck this is a meme game.

>>144954426
I'm not mad, I would just be interested in the fact if the guy even played it.
From the review it didn't sound like that.

>>144954467
They're not too great, slow as shit and get stunlocked Ez, arachnaroks are way better(other than tiring out super fast

>>144954426
>>144954260
>>144954426
No, I agree on that some of the previous games sucked, and that the company behind the backstory sucks. But by presenting that information I don't get a free card for my third opinion being truth.

Explain why the game is shit by reviewing the game, not the company that used to produce miniatures the game is based of.

>>144954525
>Holy fuck this is a meme game
Obviously

>>144954525
>WASD doesn't move the camera so I'm reaching my arm across my keyboard to use the arrow keys
Want to know another meme?
You can rebind the keys from the main menu.

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>>144954426

>>144953913
>mfw it praises s1 for historical accuracy

Well, he probably fucking forget about the mongol invasion

>>144954653
That's neat but the units still feel incredibly unresponsive compared to Warhammer or Shogun 2.

>>144954426
There's butthurt. And there's being amused by the disjointed ramblings of an insane bitter communist who doesn't seem to know anything about what he's supposedly talking about.

We're the latter option by the way ivan. Now go back to killing yourself with badly distilled vodka made out of your wifes latest stillborn.

>>144954525
Wait until you get handgunners. And I don't mean that in a good way.

>>144954727
Yeah, not much you can do about it. Cavalry charges are especially grating, even more so when trying to do it from behind a running enemy.
I just wanted to note that the WASD complaint was silly.

>>144954820
Nah, I just alt F4'd after my very first siege battle. I remember having this problem when I first tried playing the game last year but I was hoping that I was just being a shitter.

Sadly the unresponsiveness actually felt worse than before after playing so much Warhammer recently.

>>144954843
Yeah, it's a silly complaint now that I know I could change the keybinding. I didn't play long enough to realize that though. It was just one fairly annoying thing among several other grating problems.

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>>144954786
Pshhh pssshhh kto eto V efire. ... Allo YOBA eto ti?

How's Rome 2 nowadays, lads? I want to play something else to keep Warhams fresh when the first bits of new content comes out.

Is any of the DLC essential to enjoying the grand campaign?

>>144955296
>How's Rome 2 nowadays, lads?
pretty bland, it works now, there is a lot of factions and such and it has Pontus, but otherwise pretty meh

>>144955296
still good, kind of annoying that i can't zoom out as much as warhammer in the campaign map now that i'm used to it but it's good as always

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Anyone know what the Anon from the panorama contest won?

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>Пoкaзывaют opoчьих вcaдникoв.
>Зaeбиcь, кaвaлepия в aтaкe ceбя пoкaжeт!
>Opoчьи вcaдники вязнyт нa пepвoй шepeнгe пeхтypы.
>Пoкaзывaют тяжёлyю pыцapcкyю кoнницy, pыцapcтвo, цвeт импepии.
>ЖДBA ГOДA ЖДAЛ! Эти-тo в aтaки пpocтo бoжecтвeнны!
>Tяжёлaя pыцapcкaя кoнницa, pыцapcтвo, цвeт импepии вязнeт нa пepвoй шepeнгe пeхтypы.
>Пoкaзывaют УЛЬTPA-ЙOБA ШOК-КABAЛEPИЮ, EЗДOBЫХ ГPИФOHOB, ПOД ЛИХИMИ TAPAHHЫMИ УДAPAMИ И ФЛAHГOBЫMИ ATAКAMИ КOTOPЫХ HE УCTOИT HИ HEБO, HИ AЛЛAХ.
>Hy эти-тo бpaтишки нe пoдкaчaют!
>УЛЬTPA-ЙOБA ШOК-КABAЛEPИ, EЗДOBЫE ГPИФOHЫ, ПOД ЛИХИMИ TAPAHHЫMИ УДAPAMИ И ФЛAHГOBЫMИ ATAКAMИ КOTOPЫХ HE УCTOИT HИ HEБO, HИ AЛЛAХ вязнeт нa пepвoй шepeнгe пeхтypы.
>B POT EБAЛ ЭTУ ИГPУ!

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>>144955916
He won a chance to meet the newest member of the creative assembly development team, Arch Warhammer!

>>144955916
It was I who won. I got to hold Joey's hand for 25 seconds. It was worth it.

in tabletop warhammer VC used to have human units too,right?

>>144955916
they offered him the HK edition, but he said that he already has it, so they said they'll think of something else

>>144956046
>things that never happened the post desu

>>144956243
Did she cry and throw up?

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>>144956046
speak American man

>>144956352
No, i think she really liked me actually.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to say to someone, anon. Are you purposefully trying to hurt my feelings? Fuck you.

>>144956245
Just necromancers, assuming you're just counting living humans. Vampire Counts do rule over living humans as any other Elector Counts would except for the regular feeding and human sacrifice.

>>144956538
I'm just concerned for her mental health.

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>>144956046

Hang on a tick, this isn't the Queens English.

>>144956245
Not that I remember, and I remember when they had mummies

>>144956589

no I mean they had some human peasant archers. Pretty sure I saw it in some older editions

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>>144956245
They get mentioned in a lot of lore, and it makes sense they'd have them.

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>Chaos Stack attacks Talabheim
>Archaon was hiding in it despite not being the Lord of the stack

What the fuck is going on

>>144956661
Bretonnia has a unit literally called "peasant longbowmen" but that's all I've ever seen close to what you claim. Bretonnia hasn't had an army book since like 6th edition, over a decade ago.

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>>144956595
Alright, fuck you motherfucker!

*dashes at you and grabs you by the throat*

*lifts you up in the air and squeezes which makes the squeezing sound that you heard in anime*

*slams you into the ground so hard that there is an earthquake*

*ground splits open forming a giant crater with lava at the bottom*

*spins around making you dizzy*

*throw you up into the air and unsheathe my fucking blade, cutting you into a large number of pieces but i do it with such precision that you are still alive*

*you fall into the volcano and die*

Fucking faggot, there is nothing wrong with Joey's mental health, I was a gentleman when I met her, so if you try and fucking slander me again we'll have a really fucking big fucking problem you absolute fucking jackass.

>>144956752
Archie is testing his field commanders, it seems.

BEARDS IN BELTS

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>>144956797

>>144949450
lets try,. might fix my indecisiveness.

>>144956863
PUMP THOSE DWARVEN LEGS

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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699022793&searchtext=

HOLY FUCK

WHERE IS THE GOD DAMNED BALANCE PATCH

HOW IS IT TAKING SO FUCKING LONG CA, ONE OF YOUR MAIN FUCKING FEATURES OF THE GAME IS BROKEN

>>144956909
That's a cute meme picture and I don't blame you for seeing it and trying to post it in the first conversation you have, but it's not really an imagined reality when he/you directly said that Joey would have mental health problems, cry, and throw up purely because she met me and held my hand.

Reposting here then

Some things I've notriced about magic and have question about.

is there any reason to double upgrade your spells? all it says it does is reduce cooldown...so fucking what? I've never been in a battle where I went "oh man I wish I could cast fate of bjuna 10seconds earlier".
And it's not like you spam the same spells anyway. completely useless afaik. Should instead upgrade the damage/reduce cost of casting or some other benefit.

And what about overcasting. again it says it has a bigger effects area on most spells (some are different when overcast though) but does it do more than that? I cast that ressurect undead spells overcharged on two black knights who were at literally one (1) model left in both uniits and it damn near healed them to full unit size again. I have no idea if that was due to overcast or just the regular effects of the spell.

please respond

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>>144956467

>>144957234

>○ Black Pegasus Knights (Sword)
>○ Black Pegasus Knights (Lance)
>○ Demigryph Knights (Sword)

This guy's giving radious a run for his money

>>144949450
just gave up on a memey boring VC campaign that was too easy 80 turns in. Not playing Warhammer right now but if I get something fun I might hop back on it.

>>144957337

Nope, very few spells need a cooldown reduction, don't waste points

>>144956705
>'they fight for their undead masters because they fear them'

Sylvania under Vlad is a nice place to live guys!

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>>144956615

>>144957310
>post it in the first conversation
Joke's on you, I posted it many times!

>>144957337
The tool tips for upgraded spells are absolutely shit and tells you nothing.

Apparently, if you look through the game data, you'll find that some spells get increases effectiveness when upgraded and others do not. Fireball, for example, get a 100% increase to damage when upgraded, from 350 damage with 350 AP damage, to 700 damage and 700 AP damage.

>>144957412
>using Bathroomzar Belch

FUCK NO

>>144955813
there's a mod for that

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>>144957234
THIS MOD DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT!

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Zoddin' gits

How do you solve public order problem on a VH campaign?

I'm getting rebellions every turn and building ale houses to keep the fucking place happy does bugger all when I'm losing 15-17 order a turn repeatedly. The only thing that works is stationing an army in the area but then I can't expand.

>>144957702
Playing as the greenskins is truly pain

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MANAGE PUBLIC ORDER

>>144957829
You don't

You use rebels to level grimgor and get a waaagh goin

>>144957702

>invited by a dwarf faction

I hate this, in my empire playthrough the orks invited Marienburg to attack me

>>144957829
OI U GIT!! ITZ WAAAAAGH TIME!

Just ignore public order, sack settlements and build more orc boys. Rebellions are just more XP for your lords.

>>144957806
If you get -15 public order it sounds like you're having issues with raiding or corruption. You only get -4 public order from playing on VH and -4 from taxes, so the remaining -7 must come from somewhere separate to your difficulty setting.

>>144957645
tht is so stupid. FFS can someone make a guide for which spells to upgrade and put it in the OP?

>>144948604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TmZFm6NHfA

Haven't managed to find music more fitting for the Dawi. If that doesn't get you in the mood to dig deep and avenge grudges nothing will.

>>144948780

Haven't listened to that track in ages anon, so comfy. Sabbath were truly great before dio

Are vh win cheevos dependent on campaign or battle difficulty, or both

>>144957829
You build the public order building in every settlement.
It's basically a money building for greenskins given how you have to stop extorting money quite a lot when you're conquering new territories.

>>144957461
Rather that than Bretonnia imo

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>>144958051
DELETE THIS

>>144948604
Official Unofficial VC theme, accept no substitute:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US9Moa3upTY

>>144952067
>>144952257
Don't people who play FB tabletop just ignore GW's faggoty and just carry on playing it anyway? OK, so they may have ended the world in the lore (probably the stupidest fucking decision ever) but the rules and everything are still there to keep playing it if you want, all that's really changed is GW saying the world's blown up and we're starting a new game, but that doesn't really mean shit desu.

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>>144958075
Bretonnian nobles aren't that bad, even if they're fucking stupid.

>>144957829
Playing as greenskins is easy mode

>>144958272
Sure but it also killed any incoming traffic to the game andealer you gotta use 3rd party figs to ever expand

Plus lots of people played at GW stores which now ban all fantasy play

>>144958264
In fact:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSoPiffmSYU

All the town themes are GOAT

>>144958264
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dy28ef-_tA

Not nearly edgy enough.

>>144958272
thats what plenty do but its a pretty stale game after your hundredth battle and people start wanting updates/models. its called plastic crack for a reason.

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>>144958063
just play on legendary my friend

>>144957829
>make boss tent

Nice you did it

>>144958272
Yes, it wouldn't be a problem if more peole played the game like it was supposed to: with friends at the table, maybe even at your own home. Beer and pretzels and all that. But many players either couldn't or wouldn't do that, so their main source of games were the quick matches in the game stores. The whole system getting discontinued will only make finding a game harder and harder as time goes by.

>>144958375
>lord Laurent
Prolly just a perv

>>144958375
>Lord Laurent in Artois
>The Duke of Lyonesse
This is why we need Bretonnia NOW!!!
They're the truly good guys

>>144958375
Laurent of Artois sounds like a bro.

>>144958471
I hate legendary battles tho, gobbos being nigh unbreakable

>>144958606
its just +10 leadership anon, not that bad

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>>144958521
>>144958521
>>144958547
>>144958550

HE'S LITERALLY A KEKHOLD THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH /TWG/

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>>144958521
>>144958547
>>144958550
Mild correction, they're not ALL bad. And even when they're decent chaps they're also fucking stupid, with emphasis on the stupid.

>>144958706
Back to pol with you. And take a detour through /a/ to drop off your anime pics.

So I got Azhag his wyvern and he went from being a badass in melee with spells to kind of meh. Skullmuncha just seems really slow to attack. He gets around the map quickly sure, but once he actually gets into combat he hardly seems to do any damage. Anyone else find it a bit underwhelming? Are all large mounts like that or does Azhag just suck?

>>144958706
You're only a cuckold if it's your wife that's getting fucked.

This /pol/ memery has gone too far.

>>144958375
>Laurent
Bro, that's not how the Droit du seigneur works. I mean, not that it isn't nice of you.

>>144958706
Fucking retards don't even know what cuckolds are. Stop trying to fit in so hard and lurk more.

>>144958706
What's wrong is your shit taste in anime :^)

So I'm trying to play some multiplayer since I haven't played any yet and it says the host's game is different than mine. This means I have mods he doesn't, right?

Also what the fuck why is there literally only 3 existing lobbies that aren't passworded, full, or in progress?

>>144958706
The word you are looking for is "voyeur", chap. "Cuckold" is generally restricted to if the woman is your wife, girlfriend, etc.

>>144958272
No flow of new players, no going forward with new or updated models and rules, etc. They usually released new rules with a 4 years gap while continuously updating the armies.

Also from a modelling perspective, all the models are sold with round bases which are larger and makes it way harder to line the models up in formations, thereby ruining a large aspect of the game. And yes, they stopped producing the square bases so you either would have to rip your precious models off their old bases or get new models altogether...

Considering how GW is acting I'd be surprised if they are still around in 10 years, and I couldn't care less as of today

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I notice in the Steam reviews that one of the common complaints about the game is the lack of "matched combat animations".

I always thought people hated those and that they were game-breaking. What gives?

In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.

Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.

Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.

>>144952337
I actually managed to gain a military alliance with the dwarfs during my VC campaign on hard. They offered me a non aggro pact , then a trade deal, then a defensive alliance then a full military alliance. Not sure why they started liking me so much but I wasn't going to complain about it.

>>144958375
In Sylvania you are cattle, although relatively well treated cattle. Apart from the Bretonnian peasants they are fed, not inbred and have warm houses.

Sylvania has an incredibly low crime rate, because if you do anything you'll probably be vampire food at the end of the day. But if you go by your day and follow the laws nothing bad will happen

>>144958706
HAHAHAHAHAHA
HE USED THE FUNNY POL WORD
WOW HE SURE IS A DARDEVIL HUH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>144958941

You mean in 15 years of total war there are people with different opinions on a topic?

>>144958941
People are retarded. They always assumed that animations somehow affected the combat calculations instead of being the other way around.

On the other hand, I'm not sure it would be feasible to have matched animation in a game like this where the size of the soldiers can vary so much.

>>144958706
He gives them a honeymoon in his pimped out castle. He doesn't even watch too long

>>144958941
the total war fanbase is always divided in half and they alternate with eachother with one part being vocal and the other being quiet until they switch sides
this is objectively true

>>144959028
t. Anon, sylvanian

>>144959079
That and lords swinging weapons and enemies here and there

>>144959028
>relatively well treated

It's been stated up thread that you just live as the shadow of the living until you upgrade to full undead

>>144958913
>>144958401
>Plus lots of people played at GW stores which now ban all fantasy play
Seems like such a retarded business move to me. A well loved brand and they just sink it like that? Does anyone really give a fuck about age of sigmar? I can't think of a much bigger way to say fuck you to your customers really. If I was a boss at a GW store I'd personally be allowing FB games anyway, fuck them if they tried to stop me.

>>144958986
Did you fight with greenskins a lot?

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>>144958843
>>144958783
>>144958780
>>144958775
>>144958737

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>>144959028
stop posting manfred
and give the rest of stirland back

>>144958941
The REAL issue with the combat is even a grande battle between two high tier 20 unit stacks always ends up being a 10 minute wild clickfest. Very short battles!

>>144958786
Quick battles for easy multiplayer. Never many lobbies up for me.

I hope they expand the multiplayer options a bit eventually. Painting armies or customizing lords and heroes and bringing in banners would be tops. It feels archaic and empty at the moment

>>144959283
>wanting longer battles
fuck of radious

>>144959283
There's also a distinct lack of Black Orc Archers and Black Forest Goblin Spider Rider Big 'Un Archers.

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>>144959028
Well, >>144959175 puts it a bit harshly, but you have to remember that Sylvania's geography is not the best place for peaceful farming, due to the warpstone and undead and such.

You have to bear in mind that while Vlad's rule was better than von Drak's and certain more barbaric lords in the Empire and Bretonnia, Vlad /was/ only the ruler of Sylvania until Mannfred stole his ring. Furthermore, Vlad didn't personally administer all of Sylvania, and any of the good he did must be viewed in light of the excesses of his vassals, and possibly the madness of Konrad.

If you wanted to play Vampire's advocate, I'd suggest looking to the Lahmians.

>>144959216
Nope. They declared war on me but the border Princes and other dwarf holds have been acting like a buffer and I've not seen then at all yet. In fact I sacked Karak Kadrin a couple of times and fought the other two Dwarf factions just south of the empire and VC lands but they don't seem to give a fuck about that. Think I just got lucky and was at war and taking hero actions against people they didn't like at a few points.

>>144959213
You'd get fired pretty quick

>>144959481
>They declared war on me
"They" being the greenskins who declared war on me, not the dwarfs.

>>144959481
Interesting, RNJesus was very kind to you it seems.

>>144959582
How are they going to check up on you though? Do it after hours, make sure an area manager or whatever isn't going to be swinging by and make sure your customers are cool and aren't going to snitch on you for some reason and I don't see how they can find out.

>>144959370
In my headlore a grande battle should last at least 15 minutes.

>>144959282
This 2bh.

>>144959853
GW is super uptight about stuff like this, they'd probably end up getting an employee to snitch

>>144958765
Anyone got any idea why Azhag and his mount were so underwhelming? I wasn't really impressed at all. I thought he did better in a fight on foot to be honest. Or does he wreck shit for others and I was just using him wrong or something?

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>>144959282
Back to whom? Myself? Well, sure

>>144960049
You use Azhag for sprit leech and fate of BJuna, and that's it

>>144960005
Hmm... Fair enough. Seems kind of shitty though. If my boss was letting customers play FB games I'd have to be a real faggot to grass him up to corporate about it. I mean seriously, wheres the harm? People spend a fucking fortune over the years to play your game then you just turn round and say "nuh uh, your not allowed to play that any more". What a crock of shit. I'm getting mad just thinking about it and I've not played warhammer in years. Even then it was 40k about 15 years ago.

>>144960264
If you snitch you could become management

>>144960264
That' if you didn't want your boss's job and a raise.

Bear in mind that several of those working in those stores aren't that invested in the hobby and might think more on their careers. They'd never recommend vallejo paints or kolinsky brushes in one of their stores, even if it enhances your experience

>>144958401
>Plus lots of people played at GW stores which now ban all fantasy play
No, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with GW?

>>144949450
rolling

>>144960535
They haven't given a shit about the hobby in over a decade

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>want to start a new campaign after doing greenskins and dwarfs
>don't want to start a new one until a patch comes out
fug

>>144960535
Incredibly short time financial goals. If they can raise their profits with 10% but tank next year they'd not care and go for those sweet 10%

>>144960648
SPANDAU!

>>144960679
Armoured Slayer Spandau Hellsteed Riders (Light skirmish cataphracts) when?

>>144954426
>>144953313
>Third game is Rome Total War. Devs make 3D global map with mass boring micromanagment (especially non-playable in late game when you have a huge empire) and make stupid AI, historical accuracy equal to zero also. Because of this game become even worse than Total War Medieval. Many total War fans drop this series after this game.
> Because of this game become even worse than Total War Medieval. Many total War fans drop this series after this game.
>Many total War fans drop this series after this game.
wat?

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>set up an ambush outside my military allies full stack settlement
>Grimgor sees the ambush and attacks anyway
>don't get backed up by Barak Varr in the fight against Grimgor
>lose

What the shit, can AI decline to help? This is going in the book!

>>144960415
>>144960472
I guess. Guess I'm just not a big enough of a cocksucker to do that, wouldn't cross my mind really. Fuck it, I guess it'll mean GW are going to go down the pan eventually, right? Right?

Any rumours of them finally killing off the 40k universe at any point? Is it still profitably enough to justify keeping alive?

The ironic thing is of course that with TW:W there's probably as much interest in the FB universe as theres ever been. I found myself thinking about looking into it again but remembering it was dead as dillinger now. Guess it means GW won't be getting my cash after all. Other than the licence from CA of course.

>>144960571
WHERES KRELL?

>>144960860
>trusting dawi
Lmaoing at ur life

>>144960860
Is Barak Varr at war with the Greenskins? Might be that the unbaraki negotiated peace with them.

>>144960846
Black Orc version first

>>144960858
It wasn't m2-tier but it had it's fair share of problems, mods really saved it

>>144960535
Mine doesn't o_O

>>144960917
Warhammer fantasy was making less than paint, waiting on a video game to reinvigorate interest isnt safe business practice. I still think they chose the wrong option, but 40k is in no danger because its there highest profit giver.

>>144953313
>>144954426
>Despite this good AI what provide exciting battles and not so bad historical accuracy make this game quite popular.
>Despite this good AI
>good AI
wat?

>>144956245
Back in old editions, when bloodline mattered, if you played as von carstein you were allowed to take human skirmishers/archers to show that the people of sylvania saw them as legitimate rulers despite being undead horrors.

>>144960535
They aren't about playing games, they're about selling miniatures.

Well guys, I just got this game a few days ago. Is it just me or is it the best TW in a while? Maybe I'm a filthy casual but I'm actually having fun with this one. It's not so much been dumbed down, more streamlined. Good game overall I'd say.

>>144955008
>Sadly the unresponsiveness actually felt worse than before after playing so much Warhammer recently.
>>144954727
>That's neat but the units still feel incredibly unresponsive compared to Warhammer or Shogun 2.
I feel like that's why the battle in the newer ones have become a lot quicker. units are more responsive to your orders and thus tend to not get bogged down as often. that could also be the reason Med 2 units feel like they have "weight".

>>144961378
I think that's the general consensus.
It'll get even better with more races and a bigger campaign map.

>>144961317
It still sounds like a fucking terrible business decision no matter how you look at it.

>Hey dearest customers that are the pillars of our hobby and what sustains us. Do you like the miniatures you have bought (expensive as fuck at that) over years and years, and painted each of them separately with love and care so you could play some games?
>Well fuck you, those aren't worth shit anymore. And you're not allowed to play the game anymore. Buy this new crap we just made up that's going to replace what was there.
>Oh and by the way, it's MORE expensive.

>>144954485
will test once I get home later today.

>>144961513
Nobody said GW was smart.

>>144949793
Not 100% sure, but try and keep your necromancer/whoever is overcasting invocation of nehek to be in the AoE of the spell when it goes off. Again, not 100% sure of this, but I think the healing would mostly or fully negate the damage from the casting failure.

Can someone inform a pleb of the hidden effects of mounts on Lords/Heroes?

Horse/Flying/Monstrous

Obviously anti-large, but I was wondering more about overall combat effectiveness. Note, this is pretty much solely for melee.

>>144961097
>Mine doesn't o_O
your redshirt is a bro, congrats

WHFB is officially banned/unsupported by GW

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>>144960917
Yes they are plain retarded, they wait all these years to make a good Warhammer Fantasy game, and when they release several (TW, Vermintide, Mordheim) they scrap the franchise. I'm at a loss for words.

There was a rumor before that the creative departments (rules, models, etc.) were not allowed to communicate with the financial department, and vice versa. I wonder if this is what caused this.

There probably was some outrage in GW when they scrapped Fantasy as well, one of the most influential but hated by many author of books and rules, Mat Ward, were responsible for, among other things, the elves and after having to kill their individual races off he straight out quit. And that's after years of pondering and hate of butthurt fans.

I hope they see the profit from TW:W and cry themselves to sleep thinking of what could have been

>Any rumours of them finally killing off the 40k universe at any point? Is it still profitably enough to justify keeping alive?
Every time they release a new campaign for 40k people are getting nervous and thinking it's Age of the Emperor or something. And the reason they did it to Fantasy was because they wanted to simplify the rules which hindered sales of big expensive models, and if they deem that worth for 40k then it's next in line.

>>144961645
All of them give you immunity to stunlocking aka. getting ran over by demigryphs

also you are faster and the obvious benefit of flying

you get memed by anti-large anything, but usually it's not THAT bad, except for cannon spam

mounts also give you more health

>>144961645
The main thing is that lords on foot can get knocked down by bigger units charging them. It also depends on what the exact mount is since Deathclaw is better than most other monstrous mounts from what I can tell, and they will get hit more often due to being a bigger target.

>>144961035
>It wasn't m2-tier
wat?

>>144961645
you lose some general fighting ability as particularly lords on horseback tend to ride circles around the enemy -> fewer attacks

at the same time mounts allow you to repeatedly charge the enemy and therefore cheese lords/heroes on foot thanks to knockback

flying mounts like the griffons seem to work better than horses

>>144951524
top kek

>>144961097
It could still give higher profit if they scrapped the rules and thereby invited sales for more big monsters and vehicles.

Prepare for Age of the Emperor. It's only a question of when anyway

Is it me or the Flame Canons are completely useless and overpriced?

>>144961795
>There was a rumor before that the creative departments (rules, models, etc.) were not allowed to communicate with the financial department, and vice versa.
I've seen this case in several companies and I always wonder why the hell would you do this. Seems to be nothing but more trouble when the right hand has no idea what the left hand is doing.

>>144961891
M2 had a shitton of problems that were never fixed, R1 was much better

>>144961915
>>144961873
>>144961826
So generally, I should be mounting up my combat heroes and lords unless I expect anti-large? I have this feeling that they die faster in melee fights, but I guess I should be cycling them

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>siege weapons don't damage siege towers

>>144962061
There are a lot of things that are useless and overpriced. Hellblaster volley gun and luminark of hysh being other examples.

Which sold better

Overwatch or TW:W?

>>144962150
You can figure that out on your own

>>144961795
they should redeem themselves and retcon AoS. Yes it will make them look stupid but at least they could show they realised their mistake and are willing to make amends.

>>144962150
Blizzard games have always sold better

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Time to settle some grudges

>>144962121
>M2 had a shitton of problems that were never fixed,
like?

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>>144962061
Yes, and thinking about this, which units are flammable?

>>144962258
It's too late for that. They just have to make rules that aren't fucking stupid and make a background that people actually give a shit about.

>>144962143
The luminark isn't useless though, it's the most damaging, most accurate artillery with the longest range in the game. It snipes heroes/big units really really well.

It's a niche use but it's not useless. Far from it.

>>144962150
Overwatch has 7,000,000 players apparently. TWW sold 500,000 in the initial days, no idea what it's at now but it'll be higher than average for total wars. That said, the average is ~2.5m apparently for the recent titles.

>>144955008
>>144954727
units also moved slower in the older games.

>>144962391
Things with regen
Err
That's it, until wood elves come out

>>144962379
Half the unit types not working, like pikes, gunpowder, skirmishers, 2hander troops.

Line of sight on the walls.

Generals aging.

No way around squalor so you had to eradicate the population after it rebeled like it was matrix.

>>144962370
>greenskins still exist
>only 3.5k income
>grudges that high

In the fucking book you go.

>>144962453
Depending on unit size, since its damage wont scale. So as monster/lord HP increases its effectiveness diminishes.

>>144962391
>>144962560

Tomb Kings

>>144962453
The Luminark does fuck all to big units. A standard great cannon deals more damage against them than the luminark.

>>144962453
>most range
Lmao

It's damage is shit at ultra btw and is nowhere near accurate to snipe lords unless it's kholek/on a monstrous mount

>>144962603
The main greenskins don't exist, that's Karak Azul in the south. And I'm currently working on the Top Knotz with two other stacks.

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>>144962393
No, as I can't play tactical battles à la Total War but have to play some squad based game in the style of Dawn of War 2 if anything, where models have to stand on each others bases to ruin them for melee range it won't do.

Also, give me back square bases and all the races they killed off, as Tomb Kings and Bretonnia

Stop preteinding AoS is just a rebrand of Warhammer Fantasy. IT IS NOT. It's a whole different game with some common models and names from the lore. Nothing more. I don't say you can't enjoy it on its own, but don't you pretend it's Warhammer Fantasy

>>144961795
There is two things you need to know about modern GW.

1) They explicitly refuse to pay for advertising, seeing as a waste of money. New players are brought in to the fold through word of mouth and their stores.
They hate leaks and, other than white dwarf, don't announce things in advance. To paraphrase Tom Kirby, "The first time I want our customers to see our new product is when they walk in to the store".

2) They boast to their shareholders about "knowing the hobby" and are proud if the fact they don't do any market research. They get all their information from managers in their stores.

>>144962572
>No way around squalor
thought people wanted this back in with warhammer ;)
So basically mods are what saved the game(med 2) then?
also what did you mean by this
>Half the unit types not working
?

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>be dwarfs
>eliminating VC before marching north to subjugate my stubborn kin who refuse to confederate
>have fought Manfred several times now
>each time he charges ahead of his army towards my lines on his flying mount
>every time my line guns him down before he even has a chance to reach us

he never learns

>>144962941
>They get all their information from managers in their stores.

Who all agree with their bosses because that's how it works in large companies

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>>144953313
Weird. If /v/ hates a game critics are loving it but if /v/ likes a game critics bash it.

Maybe not diverse enough.

>>144962946
>So basically mods are what saved the game(med 2) then?

Yes, on a gameplay perspective R1 was much more smooth and polished, you play M2 for the mods and graphics, since they aged remarkably well for 3d

>also what did you mean

I mean what I said, most unit types straight out don't work, either because of animations or wonky programming. Pikemen would immediately swith to their sidearm on contact with the enemy, becoming useless. Mods tried to fix this by giving them no sidearm to switch to, but that made them completely OP.

Gunpowder units have animation problems, and the line of sight problem on the walls makes them even less useful.

Skirmishers don't work in skirmish mode because they won't move until their slow ass firing animation is over. They're also much slower than R1 skirmishers at firing.

2hander weapons were broken in vanilla because they attacked too slowly, they would be stunlocked without being able to do anything.

the book of grudges is such bullshit. I've done all the other campaign objectives but I cant get rid of this last fucking grudge because I cant get a successful assassination attempt on the goddamn varg who shit out level 30's. My hero either gets wounded or just fails every damn turn.

>>144962125
I guess this got lost.

>>144963068
MANFREDS, WHEN WILL THEY LEARN?

>>144963514
Just kill them all, the grudge will go away

>>144963408
>critics
It's literally who

>>144963408
>If /v/ hates a game
>If

>>144963514
can you not reload and try again? or maybe it doesn't work like that?

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>>144963592
it takes so many turns wiping out the fucking norscans though

The proper combat mod is a GODSEND

My battles feel satisfying and very long now, I get to manouever and enjoy the infantry fight without it being over in seconds

>>144962379
>gunpowder units being unresponsive and glitching out all the time
>crossbows and guns 9/10 refuse to shoot down from the walls
>if you retreat into the inner keep the enemy almost always just sits under your towers and dies
>pikes dont work
>units in general are prone to getting stuck even on flat ground

im sure there is more, but this is the stuff I remember of the top of my head

>>144963693
Is this by kam? Maybe I started playing with this mod so I dont know the difference between this and vanilla, but seems still fast for me.

Or maybe I'm just a tactical genius?

>>144963671
can anyone confirm if this works? I don't want to waste my time reloading only to find it doesn't work like this.

Guys, I've got a question. I finished killing norland and middenheim and now am wondering if I can raze the skraeling settlements. Basically, I want to go on a genocide crusade against Chaos, is this possible?

>>144963415
>Gunpowder units have animation problems, and the line of sight problem on the walls makes them even less useful.
>Skirmishers don't work in skirmish mode because they won't move until their slow ass firing animation is over. They're also much slower than R1 skirmishers at firing.
too true about this shit. I always found that units never moved when I told them to if they were firing. I also found that units were harder to control in general in Med 2. always unresponsive as shit and would get bogged down by anything.
>R1 was much more smooth and polished
was this because everything was more responsive and quicker? also whats you opinion on TW:WH?

>>144963836
Is there any point to swordsmen if you have a hammer to your anvil? Spears are cheaper, anti large, and won't die as fast

>>144963836
Yes you can, Knott M.Portant

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>>144963514
>>144963592
>>144963671
mfw I successfully assassinated surtha ek with a 13% chance.

>>144963697
>>crossbows and guns 9/10 refuse to shoot down from the walls
one of the things I like about siege in warhammer and the newer games in general is that your missile units will actually fire from the walls/ramparts

>>144963790

Yes. Well I noticed battles being longer affairs now. Especially melee crunches

>>144963967
Spears get eaten by sword units IF left in protracted melee

>>144963840
>whats you opinion on TW:WH?

Still have to play it in depth but I'm pretty positive about battles because newer games have become much smoother.

>>144963967
Didn't mean to quote

Was there not supposed to be a QA by the devs today?

>nvidia patch notes for new driver
>Removed stuttering from TWW

THANK

>>144964142
Are they already out?

>>144964060
Obviously, but if you have cav, why take swords

>>144963790
>but seems still fast for me.
I feel like it's a lot slower than vanilla but still fast. It's almost there just needs to be a little bit slower.

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>>144960858
You are newfag, oldfags stop playing Total war after Total war Medieval.

>>144962629
It kills lords with 2-3 shots on large, which is the default setting as far as I'm concerned.

>>144962706
>1k damage
>fuck all

It does snipe lord without any kind of problem whatsoever. It's deadly accurate.

>>144962715
Sounds like your problem.

>>144964142
Apparently those new drivers have been causing BSOD's and crashes on some cards, so I would be a bit careful about updating drivers.

>>144964182
If your cav gets bogged down or tied up with their cav or can't rout/roll up the battle line, heavy infantry at the core of your blob will be able to burst through the spear units and turn the entire battle into a clusterfuck

I prefer having a core of at least 2 high power sword units smack bang in the centre or reserve (cairnwraiths, black orcs, greatswords, ironbreakers)

>>144964181
It's a beta
>>144964285
I have a restore point, but thanks for the heads up

>>144964060
>>144964219
Well, i have this obsession of running game the first time with mods, as I always believe mods usually fix most of the game's shortcomings.

I agree though, a bit slower will be good. I do not recall ever having a moment where I can just enjoy the battle and the animation, there's always something to do, a front needs attacking, units needs moving and flanking, etc.

I remember playing S2 and being able to enjoy soldiers marching and charging. It feels to hectic now so no time to enjoy, thus slower battle probably will do me good.

> SamM_CA
>Auto resolver We are aware of some of the issues present with the auto resolver. I’ve written about this in the past, but its important to note that the auto resolver is actually a very complicated thing. Under the hood it actually runs a complex simulation round by round of the battle that may take place given the unit match ups. It takes a lot of things in to account, but to prevent it from bloating up massively and becoming too long of a calculation to make (think about end turn times etc), we cant simulate everything. But crucially, we cannot simulate the actions a player might perform. For instance, while the underlying code assumes it’s a great idea to throw your big heavy tank like Giant in to the very front of an engagement so he can soak up lots of damage, a player may think this is not an optimal way to play and would instead protect their giant far more because they are more interested in the outside context of keeping that unit fresh for the next battle rather than focusing on that certain battle. All this proves very difficult to get right. We had made some improvements to these calculations for Warhammer, but from the player feedback we are hearing, it doesn’t seem like it was enough. We are addressing this some more in Patch 1, with a particular focus on lower entity count units (so heroes or trolls etc) taking excessive damage. We are adding some guards to stop this happening so much and distribute the damage across more of the units. Otherwise, we will continue keeping an eye on it and make improvements wherever we can. As a system I think it does a very good job with what it is tasked to do most of the time, but we can do better and we will try to do so.
> Magic and unit size In short, this is a more complicated issue to solve than it might seem. We are looking in to it and considering our options, but don't expect a quick fix I'm afraid.

>>144963083
As someone who is old enough to remember when GW was still basically just a few nerdy dudes making rules up and modelling in Nottingham (I bought some of the first issues of white dwarf when I was a kid) it's really sad to see how they've gone. There used to be an air around the company where all that stuff about them knowing the hobby and not needing to do market research was absolutely true. They were the hobby for the most part and it felt more personal. Like you almost knew the guys making the games and they seemed to think the same way about it as you. Now it the company seems barely recognisable for what it used to be. Probably just what happens when it gets too big and the bottom line becomes more important than the product.

The irony of course is if they had kept looking after the product and embraced computer gaming earlier (there should have been games like this for the warhammer universes virtually decades ago IMO) they'd have probably had a very healthy business today. It was never going to be Microsoft or Apple or some other huge corporation but it could have kept the people involved comfortably rich and doing a job they loved if they'd cared about it a bit more. Like they used to. Like the way they did when they grew it into the business it is/was.

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>>144964509
>Under the hood it actually runs a complex simulation round by round of the battle that may take place given the unit match ups.

>>144964265
>plays on large
Lmao

>>144964509
> Agent Spam We have a couple changes coming in Patch 1 to address the issue of overly powerful and overly aggressive AI heroes. This is somewhat a symptom of the AI being too optimal with using their heroes (they do have the same constraints and rules as the player), though there are some other factors at play here. We do think its currently creating some not so fun and in some instances very frustrating gameplay, so we do plan to tone this down in a couple of ways. Roughly speaking, we are going to be making some tweaks and balance changes within the realms of existing systems. The Patch 1 change notes will have more detail on the specifics of what we have done. We will keep an eye on it though once the changes make their way to the live game. We are not ruling out the possibility that we need to do more to address it fully, but we think the changes we are making should address most of the problem.
> Kemmler Or possibly Mannfred is too strong comparatively? We are seeing quite a few conflicting reports on lots of issues of balance. So we are taking some time to take in as much info as we can from what people are saying, compare it with our own impressions and match it all up with the stats we get through from our metrics. If we think there is a problem, which there could well be, we will look to address it in the future. We have very long term plans for Warhammer so expect lots of future updates.