/twg/ - Total War General

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

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Reminder to take it easy.

1-4: Dwarfs
5-0: Attila with jews

1th for marienburg

>>144999242
This

>>144999283
remove stunties

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early for DIS IZ A WAAAGH!!! GOOD N PROPPA

>>144999283
It's jews either way

Starting greenskins on very hard ...wish me luck

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>144999310

I

I'm starting to feel the magic fade. I can only go through this tiny map so many times before it starts feeling the same every campaign.

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>>144999283
>short jews
>desert jews
not much of a choice goyim

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here comes dat boii

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>>144999093
Anyone have that pic of the aminu girl listening to roman stuff?

>>144999543
>it even looks like a wheel
Fuck.

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>>144999498
you know what to do anon

>>144999739
AHHHH ROME

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Hope we get blood this month.

>>144999543
Oh shit... waddup

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STUNTIES OUT

ABSOLUTELY NOT

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>>144999242
No.

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post WAAAGH!!!

>>145000967
Whats the deal with savage boys? are they better flankers than black orcs?

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>>145000967

what exactly is the problem with the black coach again?

>>145001062
think of them as being armored except they are immune to armor piercing

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PURGE THE GREENSKIN FILTH

>>145001154
It doesn't really do anything. Some anon made a mod recently that gave it aoe buffs, don't know exactly how much it fixes the thing, though.

Does anyone manage to lose chevrons if their unit gets decimated in Warhammer? My rank 6 Halberdier was almost wiped out but healed up without losing experience. Not complaining, definately a step up from Attila.

Is there a hero or skill that improves the chances of setting an ambush? Not detecting enemy ambushes, but capturing enemies in one of your own.

>>145000101
THIS PLEASE CA I NEED TO SLASH STOMP AND CHOP STUNTIES

WAAAAGH!!!

>>145001514
Depends on the race. I know undead and ork commanders do.

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What a time to be alive.

The world is civilized again.

>>145001514
I think the goblin boss has a skill for that.

>>145001386
>Some anon made a mod recently that gave it aoe buffs, don't know exactly how much it fixes the thing, though
this is actually why I asked. I'm currently testing it and wanted to know what were the main problems with since I never used it in vanilla.
?It doesn't really do anything
what do you mean exactly? like it dies before or it just doesn't have any real use? I just tested it in vanilla custom battle and was surprised that it's abilities are self cast only. though I guess mobile fear aura is nice?

>>145001694
Now eradicate the humans.

>>145001694
Can you recruit savage dwarfs from the southern badlands?

>>145001894
It was just a single chariot unit with a couple of self buffs and there was never really a reason to use it. Just about any other higher tier unit in the VC roster is more useful, but it's one of the most expensive units they have and I think has the highest requirements to recruit.

>>145002172
calm down radious

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>>145001910


*unseathes zweihander*


What the fuck did you just say, little shit?

>>145001694
>bretonnia exists
>civilized

>>145001910
Nah the Umgi have been bros throughout the whole campaign. The ill-mannered already got grudged to exctinction.

>>145002172
There's no such thing as a savage dwarf.

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Hello everyone, what mods do you use for TW:W?

Don't worry anons, I wont judge you.

>>145001694
>manlets
>civilized

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>>145002651
empire of sigmar, weaker towers and no makeup for vamps

>>145002651
None because I'm not a faggot.

>>145002651
no hostile AI agent actions

that's all

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>>145002651


>armored high heels

Do multiple moneymancers stack in one region?

>>145002887
The description specifically answers your question you illiterate bastard.

>>145003083
Yes or no?

>>145003083
>being this mad for no real reason

>>145002651
>Slayer buff, +10% movement in home region
>black black orcs, dwarven sheild gold and silver
>better camera mod

Anything else seems pretty cucky.

>>145002375
*unsheathes penis*
ready you're anus

>>145002256
>>145001386
well it's definitely better than vanilla but it still doesn't feel worth it for the price (cost, upkeep, and paying for the building requirements)

Coolest mod i have seen yet for TWW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv2UMwZUPfc

Lads autism soon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SkrY8USJsA

>>145003910
Someone posted a screenshot showing how it's presence seemed to allowed skeleton spearmen to beat a unit of empire greatswords. Seems sort of too good in that sense.

Anyone know in what sorts of ways Mongolian infantry fought?

Seems like they were mostly spearmen with some big shields

>>145004314
>Mongolian infantry

wat

>>145004374
There's probably a few occasions where they had to dismount

Fuck, I just imagined them climbing walls on their ponies

>>145004314
Mostly yes, they were more of an irregular force desu, swords axes clubs javelins darts and bows, to poor to buy horse or too few horses.

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If you guys like total war so much why dont you just go to Iraq??

>>145004835
We would if it was medieval or fantasy

why do I feel like I've had this conversation before

>>145004879
Because it's a bait older than the average age of /twg/.

>>145002870
It's either that or extra retarded boob armor

>>145004835
Total War: Iraq is slower than Attila, shittier than Empire, and less balanced than Warhammer. Maybe after a few patches. Don't get your hopes up.

>>145004835
Why does the 109 have a drop tank while in combat?

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>>145004835

>Iraq war

TRIGGERED

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>>145005103
Armour is stupid anyway.

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>>145004835
Listen, listen, please listen I want Yukari to sit on my face and run a tank up and down my torso singing erika

>>145005335
Alright now, I'v let a ton of stupid armor designs pass my judgement because Slant eyes are gonna slant, but I'm gonna insist I draw the line when it comes to that eye patch.

>>145000101
>paused the game and started ogle Karl Franz on Deathclaw
>Deathclaw suddenly stares at me

spooky

>>145005778
>not the ass-knifes

>>145005778
I'm pretty sure it was made as a joke, just like the buttcheek-blades.

>>145002651
My first campaign was as Bretonnia.

>>145002651
Faction unlocker

Playing Bretonnia is like playing on a harder difficulty without all the bullshit

Those early fights with my peasants ("Poor Leadership" lmao) versus Mousillon were the worst

Is Ungrim Ironfist just the Roman general from Rome 2/Attila and like, a million characters in The Witcher 3?

>>145006739
No idea. But one of the Betronnia guy is the Napoleon from the Napoleon TW cinematic

>>145006835
>dem veiny milf titties

>>145004217
you have a link to the screen shot? cause I just tried it and it worked but only when I used the spear units to tie them down while charging with the Black coach. plus I tested it on vanilla and it still worked.

>>145002651
+ 10% home movement speed and extra Vampiric Corruption

I'm mad that I'm using the second one, but I can't stop. I feel like the game crawls by as Vampire Counts without it, and it doesn't help that I keep starting over because of Greenskins.

>>145006130
>>145006293
>>145007121
BRETONNIA WHEN

>>145007292
>implying vampires can have children/be mothers.

it'd be like putting your person in a grizzled leather bag.

>>145007574
She could become a vampire after having a few kids.

>>145007121
I thought that was him, that guy is based af

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I have legitimately never been so triggered by a total war game before.
>start as Empire on hard
>take over Reikland by turn 5, everything going smooth
>Marienburg declares war, sends two stacks over but they get rekt by Franz and his army in a defensive battle
>Karak Norn declares war for absolutely no fucking reason
>they send two full stacks of angry midgets and sacks Helmgart and Grunburg
>public order so bad after getting sacked twice I get a rebellion near Altdorf
>send Franz back to deal with the rebellion and dwarfs since I thought it would take Marienburg a few turns to rebuild after destroying both their armies
>by the time I get to the rebel stack they have several demigryph and greatswords in the army
>autoresolve victory which leaves most of my army at 20% health
>dwarfs still attacking me
>Marienburg comes back a turn later with a full stack and takes Eilhart
>kill off a dwarf stack and broker peace with them
>Karak Zifil is invited to the war by fucking Marienburg
>two more dwarf stacks come down and sack Helmgart again before Marienburg swoops in to take it

There's no end to this bullshit.

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Why does everyone hate my vampbros

>>145008026
You can pay off the manlets for a few thousand to keep them from sacking your shit.

>>145008228
looks like you hate them too

>>145008026
>Playing on a difficulty where the AI literally cheats

Just give it up, Normal is the way they intended the game to be played. Anything higher is "I'm a fucking masochist and I hate my life" tier

>>145008026
reminder to watch yourself around Karak Norn

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>>145008026
IT DOESNT STOP
>Artois pays me 500 for a non aggression pact
>they break it next turn and declares fucking war on me
>they invite FUCKING MOUSILLON to the war
>4 stacks of vampires and bretonnians marching towards Altdorf along with Marienburg and the fucking midgets
>impossible to peace out with any of them

I can't fucking deal lads

>>145007640
right so you want her stretched out, dead AND bone dry? need to sort out your priorities lad.

>>145008228
Corruption and a shitty economy.

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>>145005753
>tfw that will never happen
why anon whyyy

>>145008747
>right so you want
Not me, mate. Just saying that just because she's a vamp doesn't mean she can't be a MILF for that anon.

Is charge bonus even remotely worthwhile on heroes that aren't on like a fucking dragon or something?

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the deed is done

who's next?

>>145008404
Hard isn't hard at all, though. The only make or break for Empire is the first dozen turns or so where RNG can fuck you with who declares war. If you survive that, the rest is an absolute steamroll.

>>145008747
VC economy is fine. The corruption system fucking sucks ass though. Every other campaign is fun except the VC one and that's mainly because of the corruption(and lack of diplomatic options)

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>attacked in Underway by stack and enemy capital garrison
>garrison reinforces from behind me because lol
>deploy in hexagon thinking I'm fucked at point blank to the enemy reinforcements
>enemy reinforcements obliterated in literally 30 seconds by Ironbreakers, quarrelers and organ guns
>pivot and fight the main stack

Damn it feels good to be a dawi

>>145009364
By corruption do you mean that it's too slow? I would agree with that.

What I'd like is to be able to stop spreading corruption to the territories of factions I'm trying to court in return for a diplomatic bonus.

Can someone drop me a quick link on whatever tutorials are available to begin editing Warhammer models?

Well my dwarf campaign is FUBAR. The goddamn goblin keep assassinating my agents, I get grudges to avenge them, and then the new agents don't have high enough skill to pull off a successful assassination before they get killed too, and the cycle repeats.

This grudge thing is neat but goddamn do they need to dial it back. Time for spoops.

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>spreading through mountains taking stunty settlements
>stunties call Empire for help
>go to fuck up the Empire and teach them not to fuck with Grimgor

>Kholek razes a city I was going to sack

I ain't havin' none of this shit. Kholek has to die. Grimgor iz da best.

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>>145008883
Seconding this: is it even worth taking for heroes w/ non-meme flying mounts (ie, not a pegasus/hellsteed)?

>>145009629
It's too slow, lack of corruption has too much of an impact on public order and it stops any kind of momentum you could have on the campaign map.

Chaos corruption is fine, VC corruption sucks ass.

>>145009629
It would help if Balefire was one tier lower so you could get third tier balefires in towns to spam it more

>>145009961
that army composition triggers me

>>145009364
yeah that was in response to op saying 'why does everyone hate my vamp bros', its not a statement about vamps having a shitty economy or corruption being a bad mechanic. The ai dislikes VC because they don't trade much and spread corruption.

>need a proving grounds to make marathon monks
>now can't go for my min/max maximum killing power unit production province now
I can't stomach incorporating shitty marathon monks, but I don't want to fuck over the rest of my army. This has got to be the worst design decision in Shogun 2.

>>145010231
Corruption has no diplomatic consequence though, it's just the "aversion" penalty (-40) that everyone has toward vampires except for chaos and one orc tribe I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfIe9P13X8s

WE WUZ FO-NEE-SHUNS

>>145009660
No current way to edit the models themselves, you may reskin at most

Still waiting for those official modding tools

>It's a "Empire colonizes Kislev out from under you as Vamps" episode

[distressed reaction image]

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>>145010619
>tfw I will lose this

>>145007328
I do not have the screenshot. I think the guy who made the mod posted it.

>>145011074
didn't mean to reply to that post but lel niggers

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>>144999093
I just want to remind everyone that all the talk about VCs being underpowered needs to be taken with a good spoonful of salt.

Does Chaos corruption have benefits for Chaos? or is it just debuffs for the other factions

>>145011382

Spirit leech being broken doesn't make VC good

>>145010501
Well then just don't build the marathon building.
Why is it that you need marathon monks?

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>>145011382
Seriously, this shit was a mess.

>>145011524
The benefits are:
You don't get attrition
Sometimes useless stacks of Marauders spawn to help you

>"total" war: Warhammer
>battles are not even 4k troops combined on both sides

What a fucking joke

>>145011382
>>145011531
VC literally won the last tournament and is considered the strongest army in the game right now

>>145011726
>You don't get attrition
what? does chaos suffer from attrition like vamps?

Grimgor or Azhag if im gonna play greenskins on very hard?

>>145011382
Wow a tripfag makes a poorly stated argument. Who'd have expected it?

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>>145011074
>tfw I will lose this as well

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>>145011531
I dunno much about that spell, but I do know that the central gimmick of the VCs seems to be using tarpits of fodder to pin units down and then sending the monsters in. Is spirit leech what makes this strategy so effective?

Have some bonus spooky on me btw.

>>145011880
No they don't, otherwise it would be unplayable.

>>145004063

Able to use in Campaign? I'd like this.

>>145011880
Wait, shit, sorry, enemies get attrition but they're usually smart enough to camp or force march out and sometimes the attrition doesn't even fucking work so they have full health even if they stand in a province forever

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>>145011767
You were saying?
Stop shitposting.

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>>145011939
>>poorly stated argument
A single picture is worth a thousand words anon.

>>145012156

>it took 5 armies of probably full stacks to make a 5k battle

Wow, amazing

>>145012435
One army has lots of units with one/few models, the other one shown has 11 units. You really need to try harder.

>>145011976
their trick is sniping the enemy general with death magic, the demis with fate of bjuna and then using terror and a lot of fodder to rout the enemy army, the only hard match up for the VC is another VC

>>145011781

Because of spirit leech

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>>145012217
Anyway, the vampire shits have been well and truly fucked. The sylvanian ones anyway. I have some boyz and gobbos to kill next as I am currently doing the Ghal Maraz questline/battle thing.

>>145011924
Grimgor gets better units and is a much better fighter/general...azhag doesn´t start with magic and he gets goblin archers.

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>man Sylvania is so evil and terrible to live in
>just read this informational panel written by an Empire soldier on why it's so awful
>what? n-no, he never lived there, but he KNOWS it's bad!
>that's why we need to send our armies there to conquer it for Franz!

>>145012794
chaos has spirit leech too yet it's considered the worst army, try again scrub

>cheap zombies
>fellbats
>vampires+flying mounts
>crypt horrors

>>145011059
What did Radious do to add armor to Slayers?

>>145013021

Chaos also has literal shit tier units

>>145013267
They have amazing units, they're just not as cost effective as the other armies in multiplayer

>>145013267
its not that the units are bad, they are just too expensive, a price being lowered across the board for everything other than the basic marauders would make them pretty competitive

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>>145012950
Oh yeah the VCs are all sorts of friendly and nice, this is their welcoming committee for visitors and such.

>>145008884
Orcs are mostly the same as dorfs but with a worse economy. Give Empire a go.

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>>145012950
It's not exactly the most hospitable place to live, even if you don't account for the Von Carsteins.

>>145013430
>its not that the units are bad
>Chosen can barely beat greatswords and black orcs when on TT they would literally rape them

The price reflects how expensive they are on TT, it's just that their performance is dogshit

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>>145012950
Typical Empire propaganda. Karl Franz is a mutant under the command of Tzeentch. The Greenskins come from the South, the warriors of Chaos from the North, and Franz sabotages his own empire from within to bring the downfall of all civilization.

>legendary humans
>slow expansion
>ready to fight again
>just wanna fight humanbros
>chaos invasion starts
>norsca keeps invading
>chaos chaos chaos
>humanbros die
>more chaos fights
campaign is boring

>>145013470
Dwarves don't have cavalry, doom divers and free 20 stacks waaagh armies

>>145013781
if they were only marginally more expensive then black orcs it would be fine, slightly better should mean slightly more expensive, not 50% more expensive

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I AM PRINCE

>>145013781
Last I checked you could only get one unit of chosen on tabletop, they cost 20pts per model which is twice as much as black orcs and they have the same stats as chaos warriors with one additional attack and slightly better armor.

They're basically completely different.

>>145014126
AND EMPEROR

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Also, current campaign progress so far. I'll probably confederate with Middenheim next.

They could improve Dwarf and Orc campaign by not making conquering the southeast a fucking boring chore.

>>145013952

They should be as expensive as they are now, but perform a lot better, that is if CA wants to retain any semblance of how WoC work on TT

>>145014159

They become very powerful with marks, which of course aren't in the game

>>145013850

>spend 100 turns turtling
>surprised when the chaos invasion starts

>>145014279
50 turns

>>145013781

Regular old Chaos Warriors can handily beat greatswords in the TT. A lot of the times they gut the unit before they even get to go due to the higher initiative CWs get.

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>>145014159

It's funny you mention that because Chaos warriors are stronger than black orcs and greatswords, but they eat shit ingame from both.

Hell chosen almost die to them, chaos literally work only because their warriors and knights are super good and both units eat shit ingame right now

>>145014189
That's what the tomb keks, skaven and possibly ogres/chaos dwarfs are supposed to do eventually

>>145014185
How many turns in are you?

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>>145013784
Oh yes, horrible empire propaganda, Heinrich Kemmeler over here is just a misunderstood fellow who would never harm a soul, those undead legions he has serving him are just uhh....rumors and fabrications about the sadly malnourished and inbred population of the sylvania province.

>>145014481
Chaos warriors are also more expensive than black orcs and greatswords

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>>145014185
60+

Here have pic from my assault on marienburg from a while back. That city was my first real taste of attrition warfare in this game.

>>145014601
>>145014185
>>145013443
>>145012809
>>145012217
Remove trip

>>145014983
whoops, meant for>>145014561
obviously.

>>145014983
Take your trip off shit bird

>>145011767
It's true, I'd love to have 400 man units and field armies of 8k troops etc

It'd make my computer explode however

tfw my favourite campaign (dwarfs) has the least fun battles whilst my favourite battles (vamps) have the least fun campaign

vamp corruption and/or attrition means you almost never have fun/close fights

>>145014983
Please leave

>>145014456
>>145014481
>>145014658
Chaos warriors and Knights probably don't have armor piercing damage.

>>145004063
Literally made by a poster here

>>145015259
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>>145015098
why do you guys care about trips? at least he's not shitposting

Just bought TW:Warhammer. Was it a bad idea?

What if they balanced spirit leech and the like by shortening their range and made it possible to interrupt the cast by dealing damage to them? Nerfing the damage would remove the point I figure and this way it becomes a high risk high reward spell

>>145015386
>flooding the thread with replies to yourself
sure

>>145015386

Because there is no reason to have a trip other than attention whoring

>>145015462

no

>>145014126
>>145014184
what did he mean by this?

>>145015564
Should I play all goblins Y/Y?

>>145015386
Trips should be reserved for people who need to be identified. Vampire anon deserved a trip, and he stepped down when it was no longer necessary. What is this faggot doing that's so important? Why don't we all make ourselves trips and create a system to like and dislike each other's posts.

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what's everyone at currently?

>>145015849
>>145015564
>>145015549
All I was saying is that it doesn't seem that big of a deal to me if someone uses a trip compared to the rampant shitposting usually going on here

Has CA said anything about fixing the FUCKING reinforcement deployments yet?

The solution makes sense and should be in every total war game: HAVE ARMIES DEPLOY IN GAME RELATIVE TO THEIR POSITIONS ON THE CAMPAIGN MAP.

Shit is so annoying.

>>145015724
srsly how can you be a prince and an emperor? isn't pretty much every monarch a prince technically?

>>145015832
Yeah

They're actually pretty decent for a first game because of the waaghs

>>145015953
40 without really playing much launch week but I'm also playing Attila for the first time

>>145016032
We don't need either, and should suppress both.

>>145016103
you just answered your own question

>>145015953
>tfw only 28 hours

>>145016045
That's what they're supposed to do, but something is bugged with it, apparently.

>>145016045
they said it's a bug and that there will be a fix for it eventually but probably not soon

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Nice lands my friend

>>145016032
reddit is probably better suited for you, and i'm not even saying this in the 'back 2 reddit' kind of way

should I just replace all my handgunners with outriders when I can?

they seem to be better in every way and there's only a slight difference in upkeep cost

>>145015492
I'd prefer if it either gave diminishing returns with multiple casts on the same unit, or if lords got partial resistance so it does more damage if cast on a hero or monster instead.

>>145016219
so why is he always shouting something self-evident? it's like if someone asks if you're a father and you say "YES AND A SON!"

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why's this nigga given me test fodder for my new tonks

>>145016442
TRIARII

>>145016264
The world would be safer if the gates to that hold were welded shut until turn 50.

Man hordes in attila are so much better than chaos

>>145016283
handgunners/pistoleers are so bad I felt that they actually made a negative contribution to my army
So yeah

Or just skip ranged cavalry entirely

>>145016442
maybe it's related to him needing to reconquer Reikland as prince, and then the rest of the empire's lands

>>145016283
Replace them with more artillery/demigryphs

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fug :DD:DDD

>>145011548
It's one of the faction unique units. Feels a bit off to not use them at all.

>>145016283

They crumble to ranged fire very easily.

>>145016283
I really like outriders. They're both useful for harassment, and for standing behind the line shooting over the heads of your infantry.

>>145016668
>>145016573
so don't use armor piercing ranged units at all?
handgunners seemed to help me against the western dwarfs at the beginning but I only had the one unit you start with so I haven't tested it much

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>>145015953

>>145016103
Prince of reikland emperor of the empire.

>>145016754
You lost a lot of men, lad. Are they using higher quality troops?

>>145016103
It's because it's supposed to be Germaniums

Anywhere else hed just be King or Emperor or whatever. But since the Empire is elective it means that the Emperors are chosen from among the Princes and therefore the Princes also have their own titles. Franz is prince of Reikland and Emperor of the Empire.

>>145015953

130 something

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Alright lads so a little lore related question.

If the Vampire Counts offer you a peace treaty when you're paying as Chaos they mention "McDeath" and how they should avoid repeating it.

I looked it up and found something like an early scenario for Fantasy, although it's cool that something so far back was mentioned. What actually was McDeath?

>>145016450
Would you even bother playing that? Why not Autoresolve?

>>145018463

No idea, probably some campaign scenario

>>145018637
Because some people like to have fun

>>145017956
Entirely samurai, with about double the skirmishers I had.

Most deaths were from the skirmishers. I couldn't do too much about them until the infantry battle was mostly done, & the fortress being near base rank, alongside their surrounding of me, meant they had coverage of my force no-matter what.

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>>145015953

>>145018463
My favorite one is where Archaeon goes to Manfred "You can call yourself Count, or Lord as you wish, I am the Everchosen."

It really upsets me how shit chaos units are, I mean this isn't tabletop but it should aim to preserve those balance of powers

Warriors of chaos have expensive and melee focused armies with barely anything else, but those units are supposed to rape the elites of other armies, hell warriors are stronger than most armies elites and chaos knights are the best heavy cav in the game.

>>145019086
They'll get a buff at some point calm your tits

Who do you guys find to be the best agents and why? Also, are there any good offensive lores of magic for Empire? Even on only large unit size, Gelt's Lore of Metal spells were underwhelming as fuck.

>>145018637
tfw I did play it out and lost a shit ton of men
i dunno what happened

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>>145015953

>>145019321
Banshees
>assassination specialist
>can damage walls
>also has talent points for economy boosting

>>145016442
probably to do with establishing his legitimacy. i don't actually know anything about warhammer lore but his claim would be more legitimate if he was a prince and considering his contested rule it makes sense he'd be shouting it all the time.

>>145019321

Witch Hunters are eternally #1

Pop Quiz:

In Karl Franz's election to emperor which Elector Count viewed him with the least favor?

>>145020346
brettonian

>>145020346
Mannfred

>>145019086
It's annoying that chaos didn't at least get the absurdly strong but expensive infantry gimmick

>>145020432
Incorrect.

Bretonnia and the Empire are two seperate states.

>>145020609
Incorrect.

Mannfred claims dominion over the region of Slyvania, de jure subservient to the province of Stirland.

>>145020909
>implying
Mannfred is the last great count of Stirland, you Imperial pedant.

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>>145018191
Other than being completely fucking glorious and baller, is there any other reason why Franz was elected as the emperor? There doesn't have to be any other reason really, just curious.

>>145020346
TOD
SHITTER

>>145021183
Fool. That would be Elector Count Alberich Haupt-Anderssen, Grand Count of Stirland, Prince of Wurtbad, Overlord of Sylvania

>>145021431
Correct.

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>>145019693
This, 100%. Don't forget that they're ethereal á la hexwraiths on the battlefield, with crazy high armor-piercing damage.
Kill agents on the campaign map, kill generals/agents on the battlefield, breach walls.
OP as fuck.

>>145021252
Its customary ever since Magnus to elect the Reikland prince, and Karl was the last emperors son, so for most he it was simply a title of inheritance

>>145021252
- Son of the previous Emperor.
- Prince of Reikland, situating Altdorf the Empire's capital
- Ran on a platform of unity against external threats; Chaos, Orcs etc.

>>145008631
But that's the problem lad.
Come in peace, but always have a plan in killing everyone in the room. Extermination is more useful than alliances.

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>>144999717

What perks do you give to Karl Franz ?

>>145021717
>>145021584
Karl is a self-inserting Mary Sue, now someone like Todbringer or Von Carstein are tragic, Byronic heroes

>>145021548
Wasn't that primarily because Todbringer was the other most favoured choice for Emperor? As I recall the vote for Emperor was originally in his favour, but some manoeuvring by Stirland helped the Franz secure the throne.

>>145021717
He was also the best statesman the Empire has ever seen, his only real competition being Todbringer whos only use was as a warrior

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>tfw I've been playing game just fine with lowered settings on my potato
>tfw I turned on steam fps, saw it runs at ~15 average, and now I can't play anymore

I knew it was bad, but Jesus Christ. Should I wait and fall for the rx 480 meme or just buy a r9 380 asap for $140 after rebate? probably just gonna buy the 380, I need my fix

>>145021815
>muh perfect characters are mary sues
if i can't be perfect i don't care if i'm a mary sue

>>145021815
Todshitter is a sore loser and a greedy and selfish fuck that would rather see the Empire burn than let KArl Franz unite it

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Ok I've been playing half assed campaign since the game was released time to get serious. Rolling for a FULL ASSED campaign.

>>145021892
Stop being a retard who can't have fun any more because of a number he's seen.

>>145021851
Best statesmen ever is such a lame lazy bit of writing

>>145021805
make him a duel meme lord
deathclaw 2 gud

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Brettonia DLC when?

I want my comfy campaign

>>145021982
>>145022012

You guys have no taste, Todbringer is a TRAGIC, FLAWED HERO unlike Karl the Cuck with his plot armor

Give me todbringer or give me death

>>145022098
I think it's mainly because I started playing as the spoops and they have all those nice effects that my gpu just can't handle.

Playing as the greenskins and dwarfs wasn't as bad.

>>145022186
m-muh plot armor
give me life or give me death

Playing attilla

Should I go for the Zoroastrians or the Jews if I want to spread a niche religion?

>>145022186
I confederated Middenland, then sent Todbringer into Norsca to get raped by dogs

I just reloaded a save 10 times and had 10 critical failures in a row with an agent with 35% chance to assassinate.
what is this

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>>145022186
>Todbringer
>tragic, flawed
He's alright in my book. Takes the fight to the Beastmen and whatnot.

Obviously he won't be too happy with Sigmarite Reiklanders stealing the throne from him, but Karl Franz can just make up for it with his "legendary" statesmanship, yes?

>>145022360
>what is this
The roll doesn't happen when you commit to the action. It's already decided at that point.

What's the marsh-like land in the center of the Orc holds at the bottom of the campaign map?

Skaven?

>>145022594

Todbringer is a general and warrior and his best use is as such.

>>145022790
If you need to ask if there's skaven somewhere they're already there
But I don't think there's any major skaven settlements there.

>>145022876
Oh, no doubt. Can't wait to confederate him and send him to 1v1 Khazrak.

>>145022950
There's a bunch actually, scattered throughout the old world. The Putrid Sump and Fester Spike for example.>>145022950

>>145021892

Don't be retarded and get the rx480, its out in 17 days

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>>145022790
https://www.google.com/#q=+marshes+of+madness+warhammer

>>145022594
>can't even kill a simple beast man
Lmao, I'll be over here caving in warbosses skulls
T. Franz

>>145022790
Marshes of Madness, it's the start of the land of the dead

AKA TOMB KANGS STILL NOT ANNOUNCED

>>145010159

Fucking this. Now it feels like a micromanagement hell and waste of building slots to consider where the hell I'll build those. It would be a perfect fit for tier III building, but in tier IV it feels like a waste.

Rising the corruption is agony without any agents helping it. Foster terror isn't really enough and my public order is still pure shite outside Sylvania.

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>>145010159
Install the tier 4 minor settlement mod, its perfect

>>145023536
Also agents aren't strong enough

The ai has one lord or agent there and it takes forever to raise it

And using agents to raise corruption is the slowest possible way to level them so the ai outscales you

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>>145023297
What, Karl "I got dismounted by a Beastman and needed Wood Elves to protect me" Franz?

>>145023610
r u sayin the madness is spreading
olawd

>>145023281
Huh, they could stick a vampire faction there

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>>145023653
Karl "I got wrekt by gobbos and needed Deathclaw (who was a Wood Elf gift btw) to protect me" Franz?

>Kislev not a faction
>Can't be the sentinel of the north

Holy shit I just noticed why are there no fucking squigs in this game?

>>145023804
shit's chaotic, vamps don't like that
they could just finish the western vampires up in http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mousillon

>>145024220
So they could sell you them

>>145024262
http://warhammeronline.wikia.com/wiki/Marshes_of_Madness

They easily could

>>145024447
>warhammer online

>>145024447
Isn't Strigos somewhere around the Badlands or the Marshes of Madness?

>>145024220

DLC
L
C

>>145024615
It's the only fluff that place has ever gotten, no reason not to use it

Anyone got the AI stat cheats breakdown by difficulty level?

>>145023650

Yup. It took me several turns to get my banshee strong enough to even raise corruption. It still just means 2-3% raise at best and if the AI sends one agent its all gone.

Seriously, two agents in one province and my corruption is on negative. Annoying as hell.

>>145024936

It's in the previous thread, ctrl+f leadership

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>Wood elves come out
>try to march through Athel Loren
>50% attrition

>>145023650
>>145025069
Ya'll are aware that the agents just need to be present in a province for corruption to spread, right? They can still be sent on assassination/blocking/sabotage missions and rack up xp while spreading corruption.

>>145025428
>click encampment stance
Lmao

>>145025428
>not using the underway
laughingdawi.png

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>>145025617

>They disable encampment in Athel Loren

>>145025802
>click raid stance
Lmao

>>145004835
I am

>>145025861
>Raiding in a violent, sentient forest
Make that 75% attrition.

>>145026061
>click underway stance
Lmao

What's the deal with Doom Divers? On paper their damage is nothing special, but they somehow kill more units than any other artillery I used.

>>145026119
>Doesn't know about roots
Stack gets instantly wiped out

I wish there was a way to build forts, and also to deny underway access to an area

>>145026128
They're accurate and their AoE is deceptively big. Their damage also doesn't matter too much when it's still enough to mince every normal sized unit.

>>145026279
>doesn't know about irondrakes
Lmao

>>145026281
The dwarfs having a way to (slowly) secure the underway and protect it's core settlements would actually be a decent feature for them.

>>145025861

>burn one tree
>the rest come to life and obliterate your forces

top kek put the torch down roundear

>autoresolve vs some pussy ass bitch nigga chaos stack that's mostly marauders
>all my artillery dies
>lord loses 75% of his health
>infantry is untouched

Cool

>>145026441
A feature for once the skaven gets released? Underground forts to stop rat shits from crawling around everywhere, can only be occupied by skaven, greenskins and dwarfs.

>>145026501
>flame cannons
Lmao

>>145026414
>Let's burn the angry, living murder-trees while walking through tunnels supported by their roots!
Nice try.

>>145026624
>underway tunnels
>supported by elgi roots
D'ye take me for a wazzock?

>>145026441
There's a rebuilding the underway event for dorfs but all it does is give a temp underway move bonus

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>yfw the first dlc is beastmen, skaven, wood elves, and tomb kingz

>>145022180
there is a mod that unlocks them, and another that adds a few units so their roster isn't so limited.

>>145026574

>fat dwarf trudges and wheezes to get in range with his overcompensation cannon
>armor gets shredded by dead-eye arcane bodkin arrows from waywatchers
>fat dwarfs huff and puff back to their mountains to count coins and rim eachother's hairy assholes

>>145026684
Yes.

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>set tree on fire
>it only pisses him off

Why does Todbringer have 2 eyes...

ffs lads

>>145027135
Could easily be a LL quest for the beastmen

>>145027373
I like the way you think.

>>145027448
too bad its not the way CA thinks

>>145027135
>>145027373
>>145027448
>>145027497
this sounds juicy

>>145027497
>CA is retarded

A meme that used to have relevance.

However, CA has shown great maturity and forward-thinking in the modern era.

See for instance their recent video detailing the best player-created mods for the gaming (improving upon their own design).

Face it, CA are proving themselves. Have some faith in them... and ye shall be rewarded.

>>145027652
we'll see i guess.

>>145027497
You could try suggesting it to them on some channel where they actually take feedback from. Probably unlikely if there's any decent amount of progress done on them, but you never know.

So are they ever going to fix this bullshit with reinforcing enemy armies spawning behind you?

>>145028229
they said they're working on it but it'll take "some time"

So no lmao

>>145027110
Thats not how that works m8, treemen are weak to fire

>>145028285
Just like how they said magic is going to take awhile to fix

Get your head out of your ass CA

>SACRIFICE CAVALRY, SPEED, MONSTROUS CREATURES FOR ALLEGEDLY THE BEST RANGED AND ARTILLERY IN THE GAME

FUCK YEAH DWARF ARE GONNA WRECK

>GET RAPED BY KAMIKAZE GOBLINS

GREAT BALANCE CA, WOW, AMAZING HOW THE BEST RANGED FACTION IS FUCKED IN THE ASS BY A RETARDED GOBLIN

>>145029265
Vanguard deploy a few miners, counter-battery with your own artillery, camp under forests.

If you don't want to carry too much dead weight, go for Miners with Blasting Charges, the grenades alone are worth having them.

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>>145029265
Goblins are just the best there is