/dsg/ - Demons' Souls/ Dark Souls General

There is already a thread up here with over 100 posts:

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>>144828217
Oh, I can't see that thread in the catalog. So I made a new one.

>>144828217
>>144828217

BLOW YOUR BRAINS OUT

>>144828392
Really?
I have Lucifer filtered because he is a dumb cunt but I still see threads in the catalog, even when he makes them.

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Any comments or concerns with this Wolverine cosplay? I'm thinking of taking out the helmet.

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>>144828217
?

Anyone on PC willing to backup their file and drop +2 rings and shit like that for me?

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dank meems

>>144828680
I can in 17 hours.
I'm going to bed.
Then going to work
Then showering
Then sure

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>>144828802

>in farron keep
>The three PS4 players who bought the game are huddled around the dead body of the only xbone user
>they drop pharis' hat, bow, and a stone guardian greatshield when I kill them
I don't understand

>>144828608
Hey, same for me.

>>144828791
>I can in 17 hours.

>mfw I can't in 17 hours
Let's make it like 20 or so!

>>144828863
Hey man thats not cool, prince died earlier this year

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>>144828863
>invaded host of embers Chicken n' Wn nekcihC

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Is the souls cycle real?

Do from do it intentionally?

>>144828608
I wasn't even aware this was an issue. Now I understand why last thread happened. sorry for making it a out to be a big deal against tripfags

Man I feel so stupid

>>144829236
It's literally just the Zelda cycle if you rotated to the next stage whenever the DLC dropped

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>>144828608
Nice, edit. Check mine. I just confirmed that the filters do not hide the thread in the catalog.

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>>144828680
I can, I already got everything with my main character. Where and what pass?

>>144829361
They auto center the catalog, yours is on the left. Also that edit is misaligned. Nice try

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>>144828863
>>144829162
>summon a phantom
>he gIvEs you a HuG
>see he's got a crossbow on him
>Black Crystal him home

>>144829362
Highwall first bonfire
Pass make it "rings" I guess
Gotta be red sign

>>144829489
What's wrong with Xbow?

>>144829236
Does from release unfinished games intentionally in order to meet deadlines?
Yes

Do they patch the game constantly after release right up until the DLC?
Yes

The reason the games end up 10/.10 by the time the dlc is out isn't that the dlc fixes everything, it's that they fix most of the core issues with the game through patching by the time the dlc lands.

Souls games are generally excellent for a single playthrough, and their glaring flaws only become readily apparent through consecutive playthroughs and long-term pvp, which is why there's a shortlived post-release honeymoon period followed by months of harsh "critique" from pretentious youtube personalities. Fast forward 8 months and most of those issues have been addressed through patching, while the others are addressed by new content added in the dlc.

Why can host black crystal sentinels home lmao

>>144829236
>souls cycle

This shit happens for every from game, everytime they add a new number to the Armored Core series they always change a bunch of shit. Some of it is good and some is bad, some splits the community on if its good or not.

However the Armored Core unlike Soul series usually has a game or two following a generation of game that learns from mistakes and tightens it the new mechanics without shitting on everything and is usually called better in everyway. See Armored Core 4 to Armored Core For Answer, and Armored Core V to Armored Core Verdict Day for recent examples.

>>144829562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ31eBipr_g

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>>144828608
Yeah, you're a lying bitch.

>>144829637
But 4A wasn't an improvement over 4 at all.
It was the Bloodborne to 4's DeS. It took a game with tight controls and an intricately balanced and deep combat system and shat over everything for the sake of FAST. They broke down most of the game's mechanics through a mindless increase in speed that left the only viable option to use 1 cookie cutter build and spam the most efficient weapons possible. Neither game had stellar balance, but 4A was a huge mechanical step backwards from 4 in much the same way that Bloodborne's mechanics were vacuous style with no substance that relied on their speed gimmick over actual depth or engagement.

what weapon would you use for a sneaky assassin build? obscuring ring, the ring that silences footsteps, hornet ring. i want to invade archives or lothric castle and try to sneak up on the hosts and his buddies for a quick assassination and then book it.
regular dagger because of the high crit? or is there a better dagger? id prefer a dagger to fit the cosplay. id accept a straight sword though iguess

>>144829362
Thanks for the rings

>>144829937
Daggers are shit for backstabs due to their low AR. The high modifier doesn't compensate.

If you want to 1-shot hosts with hornetstabs, your best bet is a high-AR ultra weapon like the Dragonslayer Greataxe

Are the following swords good/usable:

-Carthus Curved Sword
-Pontiff Knight Curved Sword
-Falchion

I'd like to use one of them, maybe the Pontiff Knight because of the flashy weapon art, but I don't know how good they are in battle and I'd have to farm for the Falchion and Carthus sword.

>>144829787
I fail to understand why this relates to crossbows.

Feels though.

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>>144830072
No problem man.

how come all the clutch rings have massively reduced effectiveness in pvp, but the hornet ring still does full damage?

Got my first invader kill with Dead Again. I thought it'd never be able to kill anything with it. I'm surprised how much damage a single explosion does.

>>144829886
>Works on my machine

>>144830082
i guess not one shot but deal a huge chunk of damage and finish them off with a bow or throwing knives while they panic roll away. are theyre still shit if i infuse them with sharp and go all out dex? i really dont wanna use a big weapon as its a cosplay build. 100% efficiency is not required, playing the part of a dagger/bow assassin hiding in the shadows/plain sight is more important.
i just wanna have fun and using an UGS would ruin the roleplay for me

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>>144828863
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>>144829489
>kill Soul of Cinder
>walk out of arena
>nothing happens
>walk up to bonfire in the arena
>Link the First Flame
>I guess this is all I can do?
>cutscene plays
>character stares at fire
>touches fire
>sits crosslegged silently at the fire like a behaved kindergartner
>screen fades to BLACK Black black
THAT WAS IT?

>>144830272
who knows. clutch rings were stealth nerfed, no one knows why

>>144829893
I agree with FA's speed being a problem and why I said "usually called better" subjectively rather than saying it objectively. Personally I liked the interior levels of previous games and Attack on B-17 or whatever it was called in FA shows why speed makes them shit.

Also most people tend to like FA over 4, and more so than 5/VD so I use those as an example when I see people go "why do souls game make so many changes between releases" when this shit has been going on for almost two decades, not exclusively to the souls series.

>>144830561
u were a good boy an did a good job

now eat your lunchables, there's even an estus juice box

>>144830169
>crossbow is the gun
>host sees the crossbow
>gets upset
>phantom is sent home
How did you not understand this

>>144830153

Carthus Curved Sword is one of the best weapons in the game.

>literally everyone is running through the game with at least two phantoms
>literally everyone refuses to pvp unless it's 3v1, because they don't have the confidence that they will win with just 2v1
>more people now are playing with 4
How much of a hormonal pussy boy do you have to be to require three fucking extra players to just play through the game? Holy shit.

>>144830674
I mean I guess? It's a bit of a stretch, innit? You didn't take the crossbow, you didn't tell he had it hidden, you didn't stop him from going and making a mistake with it. Quite a stretch, actually.

>>144830703
If you want 1v1s, FCs are usually hosted outside Pontiff

>>144830703
>literally everyone is running through the game with at least two phantoms
its not quite true, its just that matchmaking prioritizes you to worlds where the host has phantoms. there are solo players, you just have a much smaller chance of invading them

>>144828863
There goes MoonLight Master.
The biggest ASS that ever lived.
What a douche.

>>144830703
essentially all players are terrible at pvp, anon. and pve, they need all the help they can get.

>>144830913
Moonlight master
you should kick my BUTT

PVE wise, ds1 is the best game in the souls series. Right or wrong?

>>144831225
Das2 holds that title desu

>>144831225
Wrong, DeS has the best PVE, with Bloodborne right behind it.

ill drop someone +2 rings if someone will do the same for my twink

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>>144831021
>red invades me and my friend
>he wants our bodies
>friend runs off and leaves me with the red
And then he slapped me with his penis.

>>144831338
Post like these need to have the platform you're playing on...

>>144831225


PvE
DeS > BB > DaS2 > DaS1 > DaS3

PvP

DaS2 > DeS > BB > DaS3 > DaS1

>>144831225
DaS1 is the best RPG in the series
DaS2 fails a lot in the RPG aspects of the game, but at least has them
DaS3 doesn't even try. It's an action game, through and through. The RPG elements in it are as vestigial as they are in Bloodborne.

They all share elements of action games, and 3 does the action elements the best out of them all, but that comes at the cost of the entire RPG concept just being absent from it.

>>144831415

pc friendo

So, if I want to make a character that uses Dark spells, my options are Black Fire Orb, Affinity and... is there anything else that is usable? Not completely shit?
I don't mind underwhelming but seriously, some of these seem so situational or just plain terrible.

>>144831428
I agree with this except DeS. That shit aged poorly. Disconnected world just like das2

>>144831384
How could he be so cruelhouse?

I hope he's happeeEEEeeee

>>144831504
I liked DeS's disconnected worlds, honestly. It let you get weapons or armor for a build super fast, right out of the gate

Can anyone drop me a refined gem
I'm on Wii u

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>>144831384
>>144831546
>me and friend stuck in Irithyl Dungeon
>need help but the only other sign is a purple
>take the gamble
>summon the grape
>he stands there staring at us
>spams PMs telling us to Applaud

>>144831504
>disconnected world just like DaS2
3 has mandatory warp outs to other areas

BB is connected to a degree but it isn't 100%

DaS1 is the only area where every area can be reached through connections from other areas

Disconnected World only makes things worse if individual levels are shit, 2 had some terrible areas, whereas DeS has the best poison area in the Soulsborne titles.

>>144831446
Seems about right, this might be the reason why i like ds1 so much but crystal cave is still bullshit.

>>144831494
Great Deep Soul
Dark Edge
Dark Blade

best level for woods/cathedral invasions? wpn upgrade?

>>144831815
35/+3

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>kill king of storms
>dodge nameless wind attacks
>hit nameless once
>get hit by the roll catch
repeat ad infinitum

Fuck Prince Lothric.
Lothric wants to empty the Lothrics, fill our streets with Lothrics, and make a Lothric-making operation out of his Lothrics.

Lothric or lothic

>infinite homeward bone
>sunlight straight sword buff
>cleric's candlestick and scholar's candlestick
Why even put those three miracles in the game if you're going to invalidate their use

>>144832047
>mfw he said he was going to zip up his pants
I can't believe he said that.

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>find a Taurus(?) demon in the Catacombs
>even the skeletons help me kill it
>continue on to a bonfire that leads to a small cave hallway
>walk into the open to find Ash Lake fucking set ablaze
It's so hot out there the Uh-Huh girls just went UEHAUUWUHUH.

>>144832518
>In the Catacombs
>Anri starts yelling at me
>AND YOU FIND HORACE
>AND YOU FIND HORACE
>AND YOU FIND HORACE
>AND YOU FIND HORACE
I don't mind the yelling but does she have to spiips?

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What's the best build for the cathedral knight greatsword?

>Darkmoon covenant is still fukt
>too lazy to commence silver knight genocide.
How fucked am i?

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>>144829162
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>>144832624
This is officially the best /dsg/ thread.

>>144831660
is this supposed to be yhorm

>Dark Souls 3 challenge run with a billion END
>your only way to move around the landscape is dark sword R1s

>>144833195
What do you think it is?

Yhorm is not a coat.
Yhorm is not a closet.
Bowl. Yhorm is not a bowl.

>>144833236
scrubs in full fallen knight already do this :^)

>sitting around waiting for Farron invades
>any one invade takes an hour+
>usually times out
>any I get are seeded
How's that family share thing work?
Cuz holy fuck at least if the invades were quick I wouldn't feel like shooting myself.

>>144833529
what SL are you my man

farron invasions dry up quickly

>>144833590
120, I should not have waiting on this, I could just farm Ghrus I guess but fuckery. Like holy hell, the invasion complaints are real as fuck.

>>144832746
The most meta /dsg/ thread*

Anyone notice that blue summons are more frequent now? I'm getting them just about every three invasions and I haven't messed around with the family share garbage.

>>144833780
Making it worse would have been a fucking achievament.

Anyone know what the conditions are for Pale Shade of Londor to invade you in Farron Keep? I've never seen him invade except for Irithyll, but you have to kill him both times to get the Pale Shade set IIRC.

>>144834257

You missed him in Farron Keep. He invades near the first bonfire on the way to basilisk town.

>>144828217
I will never post in a lucifer thread, ever.

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>>144829236
>From releases a buggy unfinished mess
>people are upset
>they fix a lot of problems in patches and the DLC
>people are now content and happy
Will From ever finish a game before releasing it?
Will From ever release a game without cutting a shitload of content?

>>144834386
He does every time? I've only gotten invaded by Heysel in that locale by the basilisks.

Fuckkk.

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>starting your character as a Sorcerer is not the best way to level a Sorcerer

>>144834716
Hasn't that been the case since DS2?

>>144834479

She invades near the Golden Scroll while he invades closer to the bonfire. Actually, you could have both of them invading at once if you tried I think.

>>144834482
>Starting as a pyromancer is garbage if you actual ignore every other stat
>it's less a pyromancer until late game when you min max.
This was fun finding out.

>>144834736
post nerf sure.

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>>144834865
>try to play a hexer
>very few dark spells
>spread out through miracles, sorceries, and pyromancy
>dark catalysts are only obtainable late game
>basically dogshit versions of regular spells
>despite being useless it has its own related area, covenant, and vendor and effects another characters quest

>>144834482
>want to build a faith character but lightning blade is only halfway through the game
>open assassin for epic speedruns
>get to end game pvp, cant min-max because of assassin
dont know if it was worth the early estoc and spook shortcuts

Is SL25 +3 weapon too fucking high for Watchdogs autoinvasions? I'm not getting anything.

>>144835963
What SL were you going for?
I'm seriously considering just taking my losses and leveling up to 125 instead of 120 to make up for those useless 5 Luck points.

>>144836137
pretty much the same situation here.
i can just open a warrior but fuck it, already have a bleed character, planning on making a chaos blader and a sorcerer in the close future

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Anyone on PS4 want to hold my Storm Curved Sword so I can give it to my other character?
I'll reload my save in between and you can keep it if you upload your own save if you want

>>144836124
if it's not working it won't matter what level you are

every single auto-summoning covenant is broken for some if not most people

you need to do the family share fix or wait until they fix it (which will be never considering they never fixed shit in the previous games either)

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>>144836607
>mfw as soon as I posted that it started working

Oh well, Darkmoon and Blue Sents have summoned me once in 180 hours of playtime across several characters so whatever, but it's fun being able to invade with autosummon in something other than Aldritch

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>>144836712
OOOOCEEEELOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>144836712

>>144834736
in ds2 you could get LS super early and before the nerf it could really fuck shit up

>>144836712
Where have you gone?

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>>144836712
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
I'VE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHERFUCKING SLAVES IN MY MOTHERFUCKING GARDEN
EVERYBODY STRAP IN, IM ABOUT TO DASH ON THESE MOTHERFUCKERS

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>>144837117
IGNORANT

>>144836950
>tumblr_static_filename_640_v2[1].jpg

makes it even funnier

Storm Curved Sword or Dragonslayer Swordspear?

>>144837484
both good, build?

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>>144836712
SLAVE FUCKING SHITS

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Eileen Cosplay is completed
Get with the times, cool things to do are BB cospoors
>>144837117
>DLC won't give us the chance to talk to Ocelot pre dragon madness
A shame, I wanted him to recognize me as a knowledgeable slave

>>144837646
Just a straight up dex build

>>144837721
Did the "Seath fucked Gwynevere" meme die?

>>144837910
>buff greatknife
>switch to brigand
???

>>144838287
Symbolize tricking maybe?

>>144838287
It looks better when rolling, it's to emulate tricking your weapon, and Eileen's tricked weapon is two daggers

>>144838382
why not switch to brigand, then buff? you wanted the buff animation?

so is "Sorcery is bad" just a meme?

it seems like it is, with people one and two shotting hosts with magic

>>144838551
The animation from Corvian > Brigand sorta looks like the sparks that fly when you usually trick a weapon

I suppose buffing when I pull out Brigand Daggers would be fine too as well as an excuse to have buffed brigand daggers, god save their AR

>>144838552
be wary of shitpost
therefore
try sorcery

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>>144838552
It's not. And when the patch drops, everyone will know why

>>144838552
It isn't, but there are some sorceries that are definitely easier to land in tight spaces/when hosts or phantoms are unaware.

>>144838552
>meme
>everything is a meme
it's dogshit before 40 int, hits softer than a wet noodle. it also consumes stamina while also costing mana, which is not very well balanced either. mages have 1 niche as it is, stealth sniping with soul stream/spear
>>144838625
besides, animation during the buff may be appropriate, but you still perform the animation of putting away the greatknife, drawing a dagger, putting away the crossbow, drawing the second dagger. the transform animation is already ruined

what would you infuse a dragonslayer's axe with?
more lightning?

>>144839387
Lightning is good for FAI builds because it's almost purely lightning damage

RAW for twink builds, slays ganks all over

Refined for quality, can do a shit ton of damage and you can still apply lightning resin on it to make it shit out damage

Event poll.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10420873/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10420873/

>>144839485
sounds pretty good.

i'll have a think about my build for it
given how good resins are quality probably wins again

>>144839617
forest fuckfest sounds good, pope thing sounds nice too

>>144839387
RAW. ALWAYS. buff with resin if you're twinking or just want some lightning damage on a low faith build or with lighting blade for crazy AR
>>144839485
>refined
the weapon has shit scaling and refined doesn't remedy that. lightning is ok for faith if you don't want the extra slot/mana for buff

>>144840121
With Refined I think it has C/C which is what most Refined weapons get

Buffed you can get around 400 damage swings depending on the target, in PvP you can get unbuffed R1 double hits for about 550 or more damage

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>"pie" is censored
you know what, fuck it, this is suffocating

someone please do something, even just a fucking shitty petition that will never change anything and make me feel better for two minutes, I can't believe how bad this censorshiT is

So are they gonna make claws and fists decent, or are they just nerfing the fist parry and leaving them to rot?

>>144840516
i wish claws could keep parry as a weapon art when you're two-handing them instead of that retarded jump

>>144840446
use caps or π or 3.14. what do you want to write?

>>144840986
I know you can do that, it's just shit
shouldn't be doing this, and not for such fucking dumb words

I'm writing "Spiegel"

>>144841096
yeah, π isn't going to help you with that. they should at least add a censorship toggle. evey other game that has censorship has one for fuck's sake.

>>144841096
why is pie censored to begin with

>>144841206
They should either
>have a whitelist
or not have one at fucking all

It's an M rated game, even if it is played by actual kiddies. Not to mention it works fucking backwards by disallowing Knight but letting NiggerKiller to run around Lothric.

So what're the meme weapons going to be post-patch?

WA spam dead (Morne's, twinblades to an extent)
Carthus dead
Estoc dead
Washing pole dead

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>cosplaying my man Yhorm "The Giant" Johnson
>invade some dude in Irithyll
>the faggot has three, count'em, THREE phantoms
>red phantom that was waiting for help gets killed
>I kill one phantom
>a grape comes in
>I kill another phantom
>the grape dies
>I kill the last phantom
>I look over at the host
>pic related
>he starts fading out
"A connection error occurred, returning to your world."
Why'd he buy the game if he didn't want to experience multiplayer, one of the main features?

i see fromsoft learned how to patch games from blizzard

>>144841330
>Carthus dead
>Estoc dead
uwot

>>144841330
>Carthus dead
What specific line of the patch notes says anything remotely close? Unless it, like the Estoc, had stamina consumption increased, I didn't see that.

Estocs aren't dead btw, they can't R1 spam without care, but they can still poke you to death before you can do anything about it

Washing Pole isn't dead either, just because the phantom range is, it's still a REALLY long katana with the katana running attack.

I want to make a melee sorcerer build with Great Magic Shield and the MLGS for maximum memeage.

What are some other complimentary sorceries and how much attunement would be enough? Starting class was Knight, so got 10 guaranteed points.

>>144841442
great farrot dart and homing soul mass, maybe hail too
use them too harass and roll catch them with your sword

>>144841345
>"Waaah, PvE co-op fags won't let me hinder their multiplayer time!"

Fuck off, don't act like invaders are entitled to demand people want to play random PvP just because they play co-op.

So what's the new SL meta?

>>144841442
Farron Flashsword
Crystal Hail
Soul Greatsword
Great Farron Dart
Deep/Great Deep Soul

>>144841560
I'm assuming you're the one I invaded?

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>>144841560
People like you are the worst

I savored every moment of scumbag monk collar summons with scraping spear and similar

Dickwraithing too

>>144841804
But anon, it's precisely because of people like you that FROM cracked down on invasions

You're actually the worst

>>144841804

>scraping spear

holy fuck don't remind me

but

demons souls on ps4 when

>>144841626
Hallo pls ; - ;

>>144841438
>>144841404
>Adjusted the attack cancel parameters of some curved swords attacks.
>Adjusted stamina consumption and attack cancel parameters for rapier weapons.

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Is there a way to convert PS4 saves of DS3 to PC?

>>144841560
when you ember up you get some benefits. namely a significant 30% increase in max hp and the ability to summon help. invaders are there to balance that out. if you don't like getting invaded, don't ember. simple as that.

>>144841967
no bitch

>>144841948
Carthus is still a long R1 spam machine

Estoc still has comical range, and don't act like those two R1 hits aren't going to hit you just because the stamina cost is bigger

>>144841890
No, it's people @ FROM who heard all the whiners like you because someone broke their crutch again

>>144841918
No, instead remember that time you got invaded in those dungeons you go through to unlock Darklurker

>>144841723
I never even summoned a single white phantom in 3 NG cycles and don't give a rat's ass about being invaded, which rarely even happens since I never use embers.

Whining because people don't want to do random PvP fights while running co-op through PvE is simply utterly retarded. There is not a single justified reason why they should engage in that confrontation when they didn't intend to play PvP at all during that session, which the host clearly didn't have in mind.

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>>144841967
Even if there was a way I don't think you can transfer saves from two different consoles without cloud sharing.

At least for now.

>>144841918
>demons souls on ps4 when
Fucking this.
It's literally free money, they could get away even with straight up porting the PS3 version without even upscaling it.

>>144842140

why do i play this game

>>144842146
People like you are why DaS3 is quickly dying as far as multiplayer activity goes. Do you want there to be a multiplayer match making menu too just to further shit on everything that made this series's online play so good in the first place?

>>144842328
>People like you are why DaS3 is quickly dying as far as multiplayer activity goes
No, that would be the shitty covenants and gank squads

>>144841804
>It must be my birthday then
>cause now
>I will snatch every mother fucker birthday

>>144841626
>>144841923
>new

low level: 20s-30s

midrange: 50s maybe 60s

upper: 80, 100

meme-tier, reddit, etc.: 120

most popular is probably 120 but there are always invasions to be had. invade and pillage all you like

>>144842328
>people like you are the reason DS3 is quickly dying
What, so me not permanently embering up and using a 30% HP boost crutch 24/7 is the reason people don't want to deal with DS3's multiplayer? That just makes perfect sense.

Also
>implying people sodging invasions is a new thing

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We back?

>>144841560
>i didn't buy the game to lose all the time, of course it's my right to give myself infinite hp. i just wanna finish the game and not die, the game isn't entitled to me dying

Eyo, anybody got a spare and or backed up Man-grub and Archdeacon staff they can toss a good compeer trying to test swordspell ranges?

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>>144842340
>shitty covenants

>TWO (2) IDENTICAL blue sentinels covenants
>no pvp sin, indictment or blue eye orb
>no rat king/gravelord covenant that combine pve and pvp
>half of defending covenants aren't even working for most people

I will forever be mad.

>>144842374
/tv/ please go

Why are there fog walls in Firelink

>>144842848
It's loading

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how do I help her

she deserves better than this

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Why couldn't I parry this?

>>144843118
Kill her.
It's better than being in a shit game

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>decide to test out a great weapon just to see how they feel
>take a +1 ultra greatsword (no clue why it was +1, probably an accident on my part) to the lothric knights between vordt and dancer
>can't even kill them without having to trade
>the blue one wrecks me outright
>the brilliant stomp weapon art has poise on the actual stomp itself but the r2 afterward can be halted by an aggressive sneeze
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>144843430
Das you vant practice partner? I'm practising sorcery pvp so we could learn shit together!

>>144843658
no thanks. i wouldn't dare pvp with a weapon like this in my current state

>>144843430
That's the point

You trade hits with lots of hyperarmor but always win trades

Stomp is easy to land if your Autism Level isn't too high

>>144843929
Fair enough mate, some tips then, stomp is pretty shit, avoid it, no idea which UGS you're using (I hope it's an UGS) but the only time a stomp move works is like, massive setups. 2HR1 is unparryable. same with R2, learn to time your hits and enjoy massive hyperarmor on all your attacks.

FC W H E N
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>>144843173
wrong timing. with no poise, you need to roll once after the second hit and parry the 4th.

>>144844102
But poise doesn't affect stunlock. Nice misinfo.

>>144843173
>all that vig

>>144844091
I know right? I could host in like, Dragon Barracks or Lothric Castle or some shit. Belfry even, if people can get that far easy, but otherwise someone else gotta do it.

>>144844280
Poise doesn't affect anything. he is just saying if he had poise, he could tank the 1st hit and parry the 2nd

>>144844318
It's 40 VIG on a 120 character, you chucklefuck,

>>144844280
taking action removes stunlock protection. i meant with no poise in the game. nice reading comprehension

>>144844520
But I tank the first two hits and parry the third all the time. It just wouldn't work on this guy for apparently no reason.

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>>144842140
Invading the chasm of old was the fucking best.

PS4 Dark Souls 3 player here. Does anyone need help with anything? I really like co-oping.

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>>144831428
You're fucking crazy if you think that DeS pvp was better than DaS3 pvp.

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>>144844772
>mfw leaving lingering flames around and using force to knock people off edges

>>144844667
You're retarded. What does stunlock protection have to do with me not being able to do the standard third hit parry that I've managed plenty of times before?

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>>144844892
>DaS3 pvp
>better than anything

>>144831446
Explain how DaS3 isn't an RPG.

Quick question guys, in Dark Souls III is it possible to get the Pale Shade gear AND do Yuria's quest in one go?

I heard you can aggro her, do the invasions, then pay for absolution once you've done both invasions; by game logic, once you've absolved, would Pale Shade still be friendly to summon and get the gesture?

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>Guy attacks me while I buff up after letting him buff
>Two shot him with soul greatsword
Oh yes, sorcery is MUCH more fun, dark sword shitters have no idea how to handle my damugs.

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ENLIGHTEN ME WITH YOUR LORE KNOWLEDGE /dsg/ !

1.Why is almost every creature, especially the humanoid bosses in the game, are two times bigger than the player? What race is the player and what race are Dancer or Sulyvahn for example? Yhorm is understandable.

2.Literally who the fuck is Gundyr and why is he there?
Bonus fun questions;

3.If you could pick one zone to live in, which one would you pick? Keep in mind hostile creatures are still hostile. Firelink Shrine isn't an option.

4.Do you think the Firekeeper is a virgin?

>>144845012

PvP ranking list (officially approved)
2>3>1>DeS

>>144845062
how about just go for ng+

>>144845280
because I'm already on NG++ and I'm getting bored with this game, I just want one character to have everything and then do the DLC when it comes out

>>144845163
1. For intimidation, from mutation, or the large consumption of Souls

2. Supposed to relink the flame but showed up too late, Ludleth relinks it and rings the bell while you kill Gundyr, weakening him and stealing his soul which opens the door for the pus of man to infect him, then becomes a test for someone stronger to come along

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>>144845012
It's definitely better than grass-spam, pushlock, 2kat, second chance, curse weapon, ridiculous latency, and firestorm bullshit that plagued the DaS pvp scene.

>>144845428
>that plagued the DaS pvp scene.
DeS*

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>>144844091
HEY
>>144844345
Were you interested or nah?

I've got nothing but time but I'd like an answer bae.

>>144845163
>1
some bullshit about getting lots of souls makes you grow bigger?
>B.
Some dude with a snake up his ass, best left alone.
>Charlie.
Either Unded Settlement or Post-Pontiff Irithyll.
Unded is hyper comfy and post Pontiff for sitting about in some dark hole I make for myself with seeds popped.
>Vier.
She had to get all that humanity in there somehow.

>>144845163
1. Miyazaki only makes creatures bigger so that they're intimidating. There's no other reason

2. I think it's the Prisoner's Chain description that describes him as a champion who came to link the flame too late, and the little guy had already done it
His Iudex appearance is literally a judge, he's the "sheath" to the bonfire sword and tests whether you're worthy to draw it.

3.Smouldering Lake/Izalith seems really comfy for some reason.

4. Everybody in the Souls series is a virgin. Who needs to reproduce when it's so hard to die?

>>144845352
youll make another character sooner or later anyway

>>144842328
>People like you are why DaS3 is quickly dying as far as multiplayer activity goes
No, that would be the shitty covenants and gank squads

>>144845062
I don't think you miss anything but the lord of hollow ending by breaking her questline at Farron Keep. Be sure to summon the pale shade for the gesture before killing her, and also go back to basilisk central for the pale shade to invade before killing Abyss Watchers. Her ashes will let you buy her set on top of her and Yoel's wares at the Shrinemaiden.

You may want to kill Orbeck before pissing her off too if you want the Morion Blade.

>>144845591
I'm not going to kill her, just hit her with my fists until she gets mad
I'll do her sidequest for Orbeck first, though
thanks

>>144844837
You're welcome to join me finish up some of the later bosses after I finish typing up something that will only take a few minutes.

>>144845776
You may need to bully her once again before Pontiff then.

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Replaying vanilla DSII(Cause I never finished the DLCs)/watching old videos of it and I realized that I miss a lot of the animations/stances from that game. Things like the rolling animation, the different riposte/backstab animations, how you hold small swords while two-handing them, etc. Am I crazy?

>>144845428
The fact that estoc or NR aren't listed shows you weren't around for DeS.

>>144845883
I suppose I could do that, thanks for the suggestion

>>144845971
I was only around for the tail-end of DeS, so you're right that I didn't get to experience all the cancer that game's pvp had to offer.
Thanks for helping prove my point though. I appreciate it.

>>144845939
I'm still mad that they brought the "stabbing with the blunt part of the scythe" animations back.

Sometimes I wonder if they refused to bring back stuff from DaS2 only to appease rabid Miyazaki drones or if it was because they were unable to code them in the DaS1/BB engine.

>>144845939
It had some nice animations, I know people hate on them a lot but they were pretty charming despite often being silly.

>>144845939
DaS2 was actually pretty outstanding in terms of the weapon and armour selection, as well as some of the animations and stances.
Unfortunately, most of the animations did look incredibly floaty, but they still hold up in concept.

>>144845939
I booted up the game (I think I'd finished NG+ but hadn't killed Nashandra yet, so I could still invade and such) and played for 5 minutes
I got invaded by a havelmage blue and the game felt so stiff and shit that I turned it off when I died.
I'll probably never finish the DLC.

>>144845939
They were neat poses but they were animated horrifically

The rolling animation can fuck right off though.

>>144845163
With Sulyvahn it's probably for intimidation purposes. He's probably a human, just big and strong and shit. Dancer was mutated by the Pontiff's Black Eye Ring. She was probably already sort of big to begin with though, since it's implied she was a deity.

>>144845786
Nice. Pass and location!

>>144846125
Far be it from me to claim DeS was polished, but much of what you listed as things wrong with DeS also applies to DkS3. The point isn't exactly proven, only self declared.

>>144846560
>much of what you listed as things wrong with DeS also applies to DkS3
Could you elaborate? The only points I made that can apply to DaS3 is latency (which isn't anywhere near as bad as it was in DeS), and arguably second chance (ToD).

Does anyone want an FC out at the Archdragon Belfry or the first bonfire of Lothric castle?

>>144846215
I like it in the sense that it's funny but the riposte with scythes and ultra greatswords in DSII seriously made more sense.

>>144846251
Yeah there are some dumb animations and poses in the game for instance most of of the greatswords in the game floated above your shoulder instead of on it which was absurd.

>>144846402
I felt the same way at first but after an hour or so I get used to it. Yet to PvP because I started a new game and I have vanilla DSII so I'm not sure if it's even alive

>>144846416
You didn't like the rolling? I felt like the animation transitioned from standing to rolling better than in DS/DSIII

>>144846559
pass is /dsg/ and location will be by the Anor Londo bonfire. I'll probably go for Aldrich then Dancer then Oceiros and Champ. Then the rest.

>>144847014
>The first boss I get asked to help with is the one I hate the most.

Alright, I'm on my way. It'll be fun regardless!

>>144829937
>>144829893
any other thoughts on this? are daggers truly shit even with like 50 dex and hornet ring?

>>144847014
Fuck, sorry pass is just dsg. I'm too used to saying /dsg/

Best weapon build for trying to capture the essence of a mad berserker? I wish power within lasted longer.

>tfw no pyromancy that's a combined version of imulation and power within

>>144847102
I was just about to ask, yeah. Sign. Down.

>>144847240
Dual axes, strength build, maximum health and END

>>144846782
Estus is roughly as punishable as grass
Weapon arts hit confirming off R1s is effectively what pushlock was, granted a few have been patched out.
2kat was just the best pushlocker, see above.
Spellswap has existed in every single souls game bar bloodborne, From is awful at nailing that down.

Latency is up for debate, but clearly that discussion would go nowhere. DeS was only worse at visually displaying it, the good old double BS for example.

Only really cursed weapon doesn't have a direct parallel, though it did have a homogenizing effect on melee builds similar to how quality outclasses everything else in dks3.

>>144847361
>Estus is roughly as punishable as grass
Sure, but you can't have multiple stacks of 99 estus in your inventory
>Weapon arts hit confirming off R1s is effectively what pushlock was
I'll give you this one. But like you said, some have been patched out, making it less of an issue than it was in DeS.

I'll concede that your other points are perfectly valid. Specifically:
>though it did have a homogenizing effect on melee builds similar to how quality outclasses everything else in dks3
As much as I like Souls pvp, it's clear that they all have their own flaws. I feel like it comes down to what somebody is willing to put up with, and what their priorities are in regards to what can make or break the pvp scene for them.

>summon a red for some pvp
>dark spirit XxHonorVArToRiaSxX has invaded
>wearing kirk's and using the dark sword
>slow walks up to me
>does legion etiquette gesture
>slow walks to centre of arena
>bows
>i lift my shield to signify the fight has started
>he rolls back then bows again
>performs legion ettiquette again
>try and get the fight started as soon as i can, by this point its been a full minute since i summoned him
>he teleports behind me and take my entire healthbar with R1 spam
>points down, does legion ettiquete and slow walks away
>later get a message from him
>wow ur so bad scrub learn some honor didnt even bow reported :)
reddit made honour a meme, this is fucking terrible. it was never this bad before fucking drangleic shitters.

>>144843173
sometimes parrying after 2 hits just doesn't work
happens to me too

sucks because it's basically a guaranteed death

>>144847275
Eeeeh, my bad.
Aldrich fucks me up big time. How'd it go?

>>144848076
Got pretty close but died to arrows. Aldrich truly is the worst.

Also I got invaded, so same place?

Will I get my ass raped in PvP?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38678

>>144847974
Well, what to add.
'wow ur so bad scrub' seems pretty appropriate if he managed to take your entire healthbar with R1 spam.
Also learn some honor :^)

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Sacred flame Hex version when?
I want to be pic related.

>>144848262
>Pope
>Female
Ye. Guess you're doing a healing helper character?

>>144848262
Get rid of the clutch ring if you want to pvp. Maybe change the rofap for a life ring too.

>>144848403
Huh... Buffing/healing people during invasions to piss off grapes/reds sounds like a nice idea, actually.

>>144848275
he didnt actually he won the duel. i thought it would be best for the story if i rewrote that part.

>>144848262
>10 end with a greathammer
pretty sure they nerfed the WA combo too

>>144848590
How much END would you recommend? Keep in mind I am planning to stick with FAP.

>>144848206
Same place.

>>144847872
Just to wrap up some points:

In the theoretical, yes multiple stacks of grass was stupid, very stupid. Being perfectly practical though, one would rarely ever use more grass than the hosts of dks 3 have estus, and certainly you would never use up an entire stack on one invasion, much less more than one.

DeS did have the option of toggles to counteract pushlock, where dks3 you'd be forced to eat every hit. In that respect, I would consider WA combos worse.
That said toggling didn't became common knowledge until after DeS's hayday, so this point holds less weight.

I wouldn't respect the opinion of anyone who said any souls game had perfect pvp, anyone with eyes could see From doesn't know what to do with it.

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Ok, I have no idea at all how to make this furry build work, he's not wearing anything cause he'll be wearing the dragon suit, I just covered the basics here, what else should I do? I'm also getting moonlight greatsword, the old wolf curved one, the artorias and farron ones, and the demon's fists, but I don't need to use them, just have them for the theme, I chose the dragon tooth since it fits the theme the best, any suggestions on rings and starts for this furry yiffer build?

>>144848368
It's already in the game, anon. It's called Dark Hand

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>>144848795
DARK HAND IS FOR CUDDLING

I feel so satisfied when I actually get summoned as a Dorkmoon and then get to actually collect some ears. I thought the well-kept concords were only from Aldrich'ers that were not automatically summoned, but I'm glad to see that I get double ears if they invade as that covenant elsewhere, too.

>>144848795
But that shits horrible though. Couldn't kill rat with it.

>>144848669
20end even with fap

you want to be able to do a surprise followup if you miss, AND you want to be able to combo that into a 2nd hit

>>144848693
Got him. Let's never fight Aldrich again.

Dancer now? Sign in front of her fog.

>>144848206
>>144848693
I got cocky and fucked up a pretty good run.

>>144849064
Sweet! I'm on my way.

Weeeelp, since nobody seems to want an FC, I'll just lurk about and watch the thread from y easy chair. Can confirm sorcery as bretty gud fun though.

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>>144848787
Fixed

>>144849000
Well, I fucked up and saved it as a new build. Anyway, what about this one?

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38686

I went dumpster diving through Fireden to find a specific WEBM but I couldn't find it. Then I realized Dark Souls 3 has been out for 7 months, I can't wait to shoot myself once I finish the DLC.


On that note, have one of the pillars of the /dsg/ community shining at his brightest,

holy fucking SHIT why do we have two threads running at the same time jesus

>>144849567
what webm? you can set time boundaries for the search

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>>144849210
Uh... thanks but no thanks?

>>144849463
fine i guess, spiked mace is still pretty bad imo
also i'd drop clutch for the other miracle ring because clutch apparently does less in pvp

lothric UGS would do way more damage fyi

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>>144849567

>>144849463
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38687

Fixed

>>144845939
There are only 2 bad things about ds2 animations
roll
walking stance changes if you use left hand weapon

Which SL's should characters be kept at in order to cover the greatest range of bosses for co-op pve?
My highest is SL80 and I can get summoned for Dragonslayer Armour and upwards, including some of the early NG+ bosses.
Would another character at SL45~ be enough for the early/mid-game bosses or should I have 3 characters at something like SL80, 50, 25?

>>144849190
I just opened up the Oceiros shortcut, so sign in front of that door?

>>144849829
The boss door? On my way.

>>144849721
>obscuring ring for no reason
>meme ring
>+2/3 rings that you can only get on NG+/++
>no Faith at all
>left hand caestus

Th-thanks, anon...

>>144849829
Sign down.

>>144849896
Obscuring is essential for invading in order to surprise and run away to heal.
The lack of faith is a social commentary on the state of religious leaders.
You may use the lesser rings if you absolutely must.

The rest is non-negotiable, enjoy your new build.

>playing on XB1
>NG++
>summon help for Dancer; I am not a massive loser, but Dancer is one of two that always gets me
>get about two minutes in
>phantom has returned home
>how strange, and I eventually die
>try again, summon someone, get two minutes in
>phantom has returned home
>i grab my shit and bone home

Does that mean shitty connection, or were they just wankers?

>>144850332
were you picking the signs near vordt?

>>144850332
Just let the swordmaster kill him at the start of every run

>>144850332
If it didn't say there was a connection error, or you saw them kneel, then they returned home on their own.

>>144850332
>Summoning on Xbone
But anon, the one Xbone user's dead body can be found clutching a poison gem, surrounded by the three PS4 users

It's in Farron Keep, the PS4 users drop Pharis' hat and black bow too, you should check it.

>>144849968
Sign by the Untended Graves bonfire for Champ?

I really hate going through this area for some reason.

>>144850407
>him

>>144850493
Sure.

>>144850404
Nope.

>>144850407
I forgot this time, and I'm kicking myself.

>>144850430
then they are just jerks.

>>144850463
I hate those fucking tree dinosaur things.

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This guy is the DLC final boss? What the fuck? I got to him in like one to two hours, is that it?

PvE build with Int or Faith:
Raw weapon + buffs or elemental infusion?

>>144850608
Yes, the DLC isn't very long.

>>144850493
>I really hate going through this area for some reason.

I'm sure its the fucking flurry of stun locking bleed inducing wardens.

>>144850608
pretty hard boss senpai

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>>144850534
>Not asking for the dancers pronouns already
How embarrassing

>>144850661
It's a bit of everything, matey.

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>>144850651
what

I was expecting something like Old Hunters

>>144850673
yes he's quite an asshole

>>144850661
You could basically paraphrase that for the whole game.

>I hate [area]
>I'm sure it's the fucking flurry of stun locking [status inducing][enemy type]

>>144850608
Yeah, there are only like 5 bosses.

Cat
Arty
LMAO 2 Cat
Kalameet
Houdini
Manus

>>144850608
there is one more, probably. did you kill the dragon?
>>144850746
wasn't base bb really short?

>>144850746
Yeah, most of it is really nice (fuck you sanctuary guardian) but it's pretty short. Manus is fun though.

Does DaS 3 have the most 'gimmick' bosses?

>Cursetree has weak points
>Deacons are a horde
> >Yhorm
> Wolnir has the bracelets
>Abyss Watchers part 1
>Crystal sage doubles

>>144850796
>Houdini
the prisoner? there is also 3cat. and a couple more houdinis if you get gravelorded

>>144850493
That last one was tense. I sent you a PS4 Friend Request because I need to swing by the mini market really quick. I'll be back soon enough and ready to continue if you're still up for going.

>>144850967
>Yhorm
I wonder if they designed it well and then realised it wasnt working so just gave the sword that BS

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If I wanted to run MLGS with no spells, would this work? Anyone try this?

On a similar topic, anyone try Stormruler in PvP?

>>144850967
>Abyss Watchers part 1
see that could have been a FUN gimmick fight, if all the watchers had been up and just slapping the shit out of each other and you had to find the right one.

>>144850814
The dragon killed me, I'll come back after Manus.

Base BB is pretty short compared to base DaS. I guess it's my fault for thinking the DLC would be like Old Hunters.

>>144850796
Oh good looks like I missed a lot.

>>144850906
Manus > Artorias = Dog, as of the current point

>>144850780
Look, those wardens are ass. No matter where they are and there are tons of them at the Untended Graves. I can't think of a mob I hate more, except maybe Thralls.

>>144851038
No kidding. There was one part where he kicked me and you took damage on the other side of him. So powerful he breaks the laws of life.

No worries. I'll probably have a quick shower now then and be ready to go through the rest of it when you're back. Just make a post here, I'll keep an eye out.

>>144850967
Yep, it's quite pathetic.

>>144851078
>anyone try Stormruler in PvP?
Weapon arts utterly useless and other than that its just a shit greatsword

How ass blasted am I going to be with this build?
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/38698
Last ring slot is utility, Default will probably be Pontiff's Left Eye Effect.
Armors blank cause not sure what to wear yet.

>>144851069
Ech, the sword does bonus damage just having the buff on so it's entirely your choice to nuke him. They might have meant for you to use the huge knockdown to stun him outta some super-move then scrapped it because people might not find the sword and just repeatedly get fucked.

>>144851156
>slumbering dragon crest ring
>mfw for some reason with it on you can walk past all the wardens, even the one at the fountain the walks under the archway (directly looking at you)
This fucking game.

Do duel charms remove replenishment? Replenishment doesn't remove tears, so I figure it's not an actual "buff"?

>>144850967
People complained that there wasn't any gimmick boss in DkS2 and wanted the DeS experience back.

>>144850986
>the prisoner?
Yeah.

2 Cat is https://youtu.be/a0XenKebkZ8

>>144851275
chariot, ancient dragon are gimmick bosses

Iudex Gundry
>First try
Vordt
>First try
Curse Rotted Greatwood
>First try
Crystal Sage
>Third try (but first try I got OHK’d without even realizing it ‘cause I had a sliver of health and unknowingly walked into a boss fight)
Deacons
>First try
Abyss Watchers
>First try
Lord Wolnir
>First try
Pontiff
>Second try
Yhorm the Giant
>Second try
Dancer
>First try
Dragonslayer
>First try
Oceires
>First try
Champion Gundry
>~8 tries
Aldrich
>4rth try
Lothric Princes
>~8 tries
Old Demon King
>First try
Ancient Wyvern
>Third try
Nameless King
>~10 tries
Lord of Cinder
>~8 tries

Is this respectable /dsg/?

Is it just me or were most of the bosses casualised?