/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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Who let a chimp write the HOI IV description?

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wtf I invaded turkey, I have better technology than them and this happened
wha tthe fuck

>the game is so easy

>>144768220
Anyone?

Reposting this from last thread:

Hey this is for the guy doing the Chinese Pirates AAR whenever he comes back but I remember you had to mod in a new religion so that Confucians can attack other Confucians but secular Confucian sounds dumb so I want to know if you ever considered making them Muslims or Christians, since both existed in China, the Christians being a sect banned by the Ming government.

Also, what government type are you using for the pirates, a custom one or one of the regular republics?

who should i nuke

>>144768352
That's because Greeks are subhumans

>>144768406

The divisions in training count to your manpower in units but not for the focus check.

>>144768093
>try to take a shit
>not enough fecal influence mana
>get constipated
>feel ill and roll onto stomach
>not enough research mana to learn how to crawl
>lie on floor groaning
>use up all my diplomacy manner and stay silent on the floor
>run out of supplies
>doesn't kill me as supplys don't mean shit

fuck HOI4

>>144768502
kill yourself fucking roach

>>144768352
did you check the battle modifiers? they could have air superiority, bombers, or navies bombing the coast.They could have a really good general, and it looks like you're attacking into a land fortification on a mountain.

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I think I won this game, by doing absolutely nothing.

Some questions to HoI 4, pondering if I should pirate it.
Can you easily change your political orientation, ie can you play democratic or even Kaiserreich Germany or stuff like fascist USA?
How bound to history are you when it comes to alliances and the ai declaring wars and stuff?
Is steamrolling the world as Germany/ France still as easy as ever?

>>144768631
you lost the game

Paradox AI was never really top of the line, but they're just joking now with Stellaris and HoI4, right?

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My fleet arrived and destroyed this World Destroyer 10 seconds too late for it to blow up my homeworld

>>144768642
It's laughably easy to change your political orientation. Then again, it's not that difficult in Darkest Hour either, and that's a much better game.

>>144768505
Okay, thanks.

>>144768642
>Can you easily change your political orientation, ie can you play democratic or even Kaiserreich Germany or stuff like fascist USA?

yes easily

>How bound to history are you when it comes to alliances and the ai declaring wars and stuff?

It's a sandbox not a history game. So do whatever the fuck you want

>Is steamrolling the world as Germany/ France still as easy as ever?

You can steamroll the world as Bhutan

>>144768720
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

>>144768569
>it looks like you're attacking into a land fortification on a mountain

So what?

>>144768642
>Some questions to HoI 4, pondering if I should pirate it.
>Can you easily change your political orientation, ie can you play democratic or even Kaiserreich Germany or stuff like fascist USA?
It's extremely easy, completely braindead. No Kaiserreich, though.

>How bound to history are you when it comes to alliances and the ai declaring wars and stuff?
You aren't bound at all. It's a complete mess. My last game (before I alt + F4d) had a fascist UK + Japan + Poland Allies against a Franco-German "Axis" (Poland and France were both still liberal democracies)

>Is steamrolling the world as Germany/ France still as easy as ever?
Yes.

>>144768352
also it looks like they have more divisions than you. You should make some light tank divisions before you invade people, maybe try a defensive war since he has that land fort and bait him into you.

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>>144768569
Air Force in this game is fucking confusing
I think I've sent all my fighters, bombers and NAV's flying over there
I also have a fleet in the aegean

>>144768352
Should have attacked Bulgaria first for a wider front to push in from.

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Okay, I literally cheated and gave myself like 120 factories because my production in numerous games would literally not fucking move. Why are 120 factories only pumping out one infantry, and at a snails pace?

>>144768352
Are you attacking them into mountains? You could at least launch a naval invasion into Constantinople.

How do paratroopers work? I have some transports, how do I pile them in?

>>144768642
I haven't played, but from the threads it seems like you can pretty easily change your ideology in about 1 year if you set the right minister and then follow the right national focus path.

>>144768815
>that cashflow
I never really played much DW, but it looks like the economy is really as easy as I thought

g2a.com/ hearts-of-iron-iii-collection-steam-cd-key-global.html

Can I still buy this even though it's not on the steam store any longer ?

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>>144768929
>No Kaiserreich, though.
Dropped

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>>144768815
Imagine all the lost lives
All the years of evolution, war and suffering in one planet to reach the stars

It all ended in a few minutes and it will never come back

>>144768983
Are you producing equipment?

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>>144768523
holy shit, lost it

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>>144768983

>>144768994
No idea how to use transport ships, I don't even know where to build them

Is this safe to pirate?

>>144769049
Yup. I never had problem with money or resources. Disappointing desu

Hoi4 is the worst paradox game I've ever played

Atleast stellaris, for how generic it is, is atleast not claiming to be part of a previous game series.

Hoi4 is just fucking awful. Look at it compared to Hoi2 or DH or even Hoi3, it's like we've regressed decades.

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are there any map modes that makes the things that aren't useful go away?

>>144769008
Send the transports to an airport then send your paratroopers over, then I think you have to make them active and the order will work.

>>144769086
The fun thing about space scifi is that you can go from philosophizing about the horrors of interplanetary war to a FUCK ALIENS revenge trip in 0.001 seconds

Is it true the holocaust/ genocide in general sin't featured in HoI 4?

>>144769151
You don't need transport ships, just naval superiority in the sea region and regular convoys.

>>144769049
Depends on how late game you are, your settings and you ship designs

I had economical problems in DH before though i'm not sure what happens when you completely run out of oney

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>>144769105
>>144769125
Pretty sure I am. My Argentina game was pretty fun because I was actually pumping out units, whereas in my other games as similarly sized or smaller nations I have had a lot more difficulty with production. There has to be something I am just missing entirely that it is so fucked.

>>144769205
No. Some poor guy I used to play with pirated Stellaris to play with me and disappeared one day later. I think they got to him.

>>144769086
20 billion dead on that planet.

>>144769259
No. Enjoy your innovative terrain+political map.

>>144769289
It wasn't in any of them iirc

>>144769259
I don't think so. I can't tell what the fuck is going on sometimes when invading a small area with lots of troops.

why the fuck am I exporting shit I need?

>>144769289
Yeah Paradox are fanatic holocaust deniers

>Soviet Union doesn't have focus on Finland
>Focus tree makes it some kind of technological futureland
>Everything conquest-related is almost at the end
Not to mention the fact that you don't suffer penalties from building everything in Siberia. Disgusting.

>>144768958
build fighters and put them in an air base in the greece region and select air superiority

to deal with his navy since building ships can take forever make naval bombers and put them in greece region and select naval strike

if you have a navy then click on it, click on search and destroy, and click the sea regions where you think the turkish fleet is at

>>144768906
>so what?
forts lower casualties for defender and help with defense

>>144769346
Buy materials you fucking retard, are you really so dumb you resort to cheating without even reading anything the game tells you?

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ITS DONE.

>>144768983
click add unit 10 times instead of making 10 different infantry brigades

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hmmmmm

>>144769346
You have no resources

>>144769346
You haven't let your industries get used to your equipment, so they're all operating at really inefficient speeds. Give it time.

>>144769368
no, i mean with people spamming malicious links in /gsg/ for days im worried the torrent people keep recommended "the codex one on kat" is one too

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>>144768093
What a shitty flag

>>144769259
that is rather painful to look at.

>>144768631

>Ecuador

I love how this game actually treats SA countries in a fair way. My first game is as Venezuela and i am having a blast. They even got the name of political figures of the time right.

Sure they were irrelevant irl, but thats not excuse for completely avoid them like other games do. Its ridiculous how many games portrait Venezuela and Colombia as one country or Brazil and Argentina like the only countries int the continent and shit.

>>144769346
You have no resources and production needs time to go maximum efficiency.

>>144769415
You always export 80-50-25-0% of your resources depending on your economical laws, even if no one is buying you steel can't use them. It's shit mechanics but at least you get some nice bonuses if you have resources to spare. If not, just change the laws.
www.hoi4wiki.com/Ideas#Trade_laws

>>144768983
youre lacking in resources, makes production slow as fuck, hopefully you made some civilian factories so you can make trade deals with other nations. this takes up convoys as well so produce some of those

>>144769626
Because he's on airplane mode.

>>144769346
>Pretty sure I am
>Everything is in red
>Pretty sure I am

>>144769527
Fuck you.

t. hue

>>144769527
>Turning South America into a black empire.

sounds fun senpai

This shit feels more like one of those mobile "strategy" games than something like the previous HoI games.

>>144769486
The game says it will be produced more slowly, it doesn't say it wouldn't fucking function at all.
>>144769549
Now I know this is a bigger deal than the tooltip makes it sound.

>>144769461
>forts lower casualties for defender and help with defense

Oh. So, don't attack places with these forts on them?

>>144769632
>treats SA countries in a fair way
>a fat latino governs them all

Is there a decent beginners guide to HoI 4 I can read while I wait for the download?

CK2+EUIV babby here

>>144769828
>Oh. So, don't attack places with these forts on them?


it literally doesn't matter just throw more units at it

>>144769690
hmm so you just lose the percentage irrespective of any actual demand? alright..

>>144769527
disgusting.. you could have atleast annexed chile and paraguay first

>>144769828
no unless you have tanks and engineers, or just way more divisions

>>144769527
Why did they even bother giving fascist Argentina a unique name if it's just going to be "fascist Argentina"
Paradox are fucking retarded Jesus

Reminder that the only thing making HoI4 better than EvW is that it's at least playable.

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I'm having fun playing HoI4

>>144770008
Leave now, REE, etc

>>144769931
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkQMBP16-XLEVHqSC4CM82aHB10OaG9-T

>>144769980
>disgusting.. you could have atleast annexed chile and paraguay first

Working on Chile now, it all went to shit when I took Uruguay and America joining dragged me into the world war with an allied Brazil

>>144769375
>>144769271
Just imagine seeing that behemoth in the sky, the sheer terror its presence would inspire and then, a column of fire tearing the clouds, the rumbling of the earth as it cracked and was torn asunder and the screams of a planet as 20 billions lives ended at the same time, the sheer desperation of the fleet as they watch their homeworld and capital be turn to dust, possibly with their loved ones in it, the birthplace of their species

>>144769498

Soviet Chile won? :^)

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>>144769434
Based

10 fucking /10
top AI

france has random green and grey provinces

>>144770161
did you just waste all your commerical factories and convoys on steel, because chile is basically the only source of steel in SA and would've been the first nation I would annex as Argentina

>>144769995
it baffles me that so many faggots here don't understand this:

paradox is making these retarded renames so that casual retards who don't check countries more than once every twenty years can see "wow they changed name that probably means something" because otherwise they'd completely miss the fascist britain that formed all by itself

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what are the differences between
Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet Edition
Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel Edition
Hearts of Iron IV: Field Marshal Edition
?

The expansion pass includes all the dlcs which will be released?

Pls respond

I know that this is like complaining about the wallpaper on a sinking Titanic, but it bugs the everloving shit out of me how they modelled the UK and her colonies (disclaimer I am a bong and so probably biased). Canada, South Africa and the Australias weren't even independent dominions after the war, let alone in 1936. The way they're modelled in game leads to stupid things like bloodlessly dropping their allegiance if the UK turns fascist. If they wanted to keep these countries as playable independents without being "puppets", why not make a special "Dominion" relation, like in Vicky 1? How hard could that be?

Also, Chamberlain wasn't Prime Minister in 1936.

Everything about this meme game feels so lazy. I don't mind inaccuracies if there's fun out of it or if they at least seemed to be making the effort, but come on.

>>144770387
>lol why does britain have a fucking lightning bolt on their flag is my game glitched

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>>144769920

Let me have this anon. Venezuela is a shithole irl, let me role play like they are not.

>>144770415
one of them costs more money
one of them costs yet more money
one of them costs yet further more money

that is the difference

>>144770415
Hearts of Iron IV: Johan Edition
Hearts of Iron IV: JOHAN Edition
Hearts of Iron IV: JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN Edition

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>>144770387
>hurrdurr we can't have non-shit names because our target audience is sub-80 IQ faggots who hardly know english

cool thanks johan

what do you even do as an alliance state? it's so fucking boring playing the world police

>>144770495
I kek'd

>>144770387
true but they could've not memed it so hard with names like empire of platypuses, neo-ottoman empire, new persian empire, and republic of the kiwis (forgot what it exactly was)

>>144770415
field marshal is the only one that has expansion pass, might as well get it cuz this game is gonna need expansions

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>>144768093
>Not using the new info-graph

This denial is amazing.

>>144768262

So, let me get this straight.

/gsg/ calls every single one of those games "casual" except HoI3. Yes, even Vicky 2 (a.k.a Liqtoria 2). If we were removing "casual" games from the OP, then all that would be left would be perhaps HoI3 and Distant Worlds.

Tell me, /gsg/. What kind of "grand strategy" game would be acceptable to you? What kinds of mechanics/simulation do you want to see? Does it have to be Paradox (yes, they made up the term, but there are other devs out there who could fill in the ranks due to Paradox's incompetence)?

This Italian starting light tank division is absolute cancer

>4 cavalry
>2 motorised
>1 light tank

>>144769828
Is that you, arumba?

>>144770642
can't wait to figure out what sort of meme names they got for norway

>>144770598

There's absolutely no reason not to go fascist, lad. Unless you're RPing/larping it is strictly better in every possible way.

http://www.strawpoll.me/10423879
http://www.strawpoll.me/10423879
http://www.strawpoll.me/10423879

>>144770780
DH is still accepted here DH dev we just don't give you free marketing anymore because a new game came out, calm down

>>144770780
War in the East

Is 1 factory always worth 8 of any resource no matter even who you trade with?

>>144770780
he's memeing you jesus christ

>>144770415
just pirate it you dumb anime bitch

Is there a way to release Germany with Austria in New World Order in the East vs West start date?

>>144770780
That's a shill, anon

>>144770883
some would argue fascism is better for that too

>>144770883
not true, if your in the Allies and you declare war on someone they guaranteed, they wont fight you, but yeah other than that might as well be commie or fascist

>>144770813
for panzer divisions i use 2x2 light tanks and 2 motorised but i dont know how well that works for other nations

>>144770902
Replace eu: Rome with dh

Hardly anyone here plays eu: Rome, the last time I saw anyone post it was months ago and he was terrible

>>144770598
>alliance state

>>144770964
>>144771040
All right, still: I'd like to hear some thoughts on the questions I asked.

>>144770902
Remake that poll with HOI 4.

DH shills are so insufferable cunts

>>144771156
Why the fuck do we need 3 HoI games in the infopic ? Why remove the only different game ?

>>144771264
Because people actually play them

Why the fuck do we need games nobody talks about or posts here?

>>144770780
A real fucking grand strategy game you fucking cunt

>>144771257
>>144771156
HoI4 is actually good. HoI3 is railroaded trash.

>>144771353
Tell me what such a game would play like.

>>144771414
(you)

>>144771342
They do
The OP pic isn't a popularity contest, no one is stopping you from posting DH here, why the fuck do you care so much if its in there?

>>144771414
>HoI3 is railroaded trash.
May be so, but it doesn't change the fact 3 actually has a fanbase.

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>>144771480
He's right though.

How the FUCK do I turn off this retarded AI that keeps trying to control my army and doing retarded shit? Holy shit this is so infuriating

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>>144771414

>>144771264
I've not even played dh and I agree with the other anon. no one ever talks about eu:rome, yet people regularly talk about and post both dh and hoi3. eu:rome should be delegated to the misc titles section

So what will they change for HoI5?

>>144771532
no one is stopping you from posting eu: Rome here, why the fuck do care so much when you don't even play it?

Why don't we add Koei titles like Genghis Khan or Nobunaga's ambition?

They pretty much fit the definition of Grand Strategy.

I'd also like to see Medieval Lords: Soldier Kings of Europe mentioned there too, since we're not a Paradox general.

>100% world tension
>in 1940
shit

>>144770813
I modified it to 6 mot and 2 l arm after Spanish civil war which I used to farm massive experience. Probably going to add more armor at some point. But I'm Italy so I barely produce any.

how do i get germany with ostmark in NWO

>>144771623
>implying there will be a hoi5

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>>144771584
please tell me before i go fucking insane i'm trying to micromanage my fucking army and the AI is going full fucking retard AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

talking about hoi4 if that wasn't obvious

>>144771623
More DLCs. Expect a DLC to unlock playable countries.

>>144771637
/gsg/ thinks grand strategy = Paradox (except Distant Worlds - I'm surprised it's even on the OP, though I completely agree with it being there).

Yes, Paradox invented the term, but the idea still applies to other games (and frankly, other devs have been far more competent in producing games that fit the ethos - see Distant Worlds).

>>144771607
The OP isn't a popularity contest
People play eu:rome here too, it's fucking pointless to have 3 HoI games in the OP especially when HoI4 acts like a direct replacement for DH

I'd rather have a less popular and different game than the same fucking game 2 times

>>144771630
I'm not the one bitching my game should be in the OP

>>144771637
>Since we're not a paradox general
>99%+ of all discussion and posts are about paradox games

Hmm...

>>144771586
What's the point of having the abbreviation and the full name of your theater HQ in its name

>>144771637
I would definitely love to see more games on gsg, but I think we should promote more modern stuff honestly.

but beggars cant be choosers

>>144771808
turn off battle plans? if theyre fucking up that badly its probably your fault for giving them shit orders.

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>>144768093
anyone else pretty impressed with HOI4? I know its barebones at release just like normal paradox fashion but this is actually playable

my main concerns
>no point in taking reasonable demands might as well just full annex
Non-core state territory should have a base partisan activity change (like 10% at least that cant be reduced)
>Garrrison forces can be pumped out at 10% training and be used to effectively end partisan activity
make training matter, and give a base partisan activity your troops can reduce it to; define it by occupation policy
>really infrastructure lands can be crossed
this makes fighting in africa, mongolia, and china a shitfest
>Synthetic oil factory techs are useless
they dont boost anything except more that you can stick in a state
>defending is trash in comparison to attacking
every time Im defending and somewhat losing land I can just order a counter attack and most the time it'll work
>defending troops wont try and save their ass from being encircled
not too big of a problem for the player but the AI is dum
>capitulation land is trash
make a mini peace treaty screen after a country capitulates so you can actually have decent capitulation borders before the end war screen
>troops gain supply even fighting in land not of their own and far away from their country
this is retarded because you end up with Chinese Turkey and Polish Manchuria. Make it so that only same factions share supply like HOI3, why would russia allow foreign troops in their lands claiming territory for themselves?
>cant control volunteer troops
self explanatory
>cookie cutter divisions
no reason to diversify divisions
>modifying tanks/planes too easy
most the time I sit at 500exp on both air and land with uber tanks and planes at MkII at the latest, that doesnt seem right
>naval invasions too easy
not too bad but its annoying fighting against the allies when they'll lland anywhere
>factories are a cluster fuck at higher production capacities

>>144771584
boot HoI3

>>144771808
>>144771584
Play some other game that actually has competent AI.

You won't find that in a Paradox game.

>>144771851
I'm not the one bitching that a game nobody plays or discusses must stay in the op

Seriously why are you complaining about 3 hoi games being in there hen there's currently 3 eu games in there you mongoloid?

>>144771839
Distant Worlds is 4X

>>144771808
>>144771584
You don't.

It's Hoi3's AI mode, hardcoded and forced onto you.

Enjoy it.

>mfw enjoying HoI4

Finally, a grand strategy that is easy to actually fucking learn.

>>144772053
It's both

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>>144771975
I haven't given them any fucking battleplans except that I drew a front-line for the visual effect
>>144772069
picture related

>>144769068
late reply but yes
games no longer sold can still be activated. see Mafia 2

>>144771982
>really low infrastructure*

>>144772026
Neither am I, I'm refuting some whiny little bitch that thinks his old as fuck game made redundant a few days ago should stay in the OP because "muh popularity"

>EU:Rome
>EU game
Wew, it's the only game in a different era

Add DH to the oddities together with Sengoku then we can replace Rome being metioned two times

>>144772172
A game can't be both. See for reference: Stellaris scrapping half the Xs to become grand strategy

>>144772195
The only thing frontline does is spreads your army across it, if you're doing that yourself then turn it off.

How is HOI4?

>>144772219
No tangible losses from having no supply. Just increase your unit amount 33%.

>>144772503
I think it's got good points and bad points.

>>144772503
Like every paradox game its barebones at release but it honestly has the potential to be a very good game, and it is playable if you want to try it right now.

>>144772503

Brilliant. I think it's a tad bit better than HoI3 even without any improvements made to it. Just give the game a go and make sure to ignore all of the HoI3/DH shills. Buy the Field Marshal edition, btw.

Trawling Johan's twitter and it would seem the Renaissance will be in the next EU4 expansion. EU4: Renaissance?

Is this the end of 'Emperor, we must sail to North America and learn these white barbarian ways and we cannot just buy everything from the port next door because Trade Company' games?

>>144772250
>Complaining about dh being old
>But eu:Rome should be there instead

Dh came out 3 years after eu:Rome

Checkmate whiny faggot, now back to plebbit you go

What's the best wargame ever made?

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NEW OP PIC

>>144772707
War in the West ladm8

>>144772707
Starcraft: BroodWar

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what the fuck am i doing

>>144772503
Butchered political system, dumbed down military and historically retarded, but other than that it's good.

>>144772854
I like it

>>144772707
Master of Magic

>>144772697
I'm not complaining DH is old you illiterate retard, I'm saying that it's the oldest game in its series and it should be replaced by the newest one

When EU:Rome has a sequel I'm all in for replacing it with the new one

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>>144772543
you suffer attrition from the hot desert but its still fucking retarded fighting in Africa right now
>mfw im forced to put my lines across the entirety of the Libyan border into the Sahara if I want to actually defend my borders
>mfw I tried to rationalize it thinking I could just guard the top because the AI wouldnt fight in low infrastructure
>mfw AI actively goes through the sahara
FUCK I cant wait to mod this out before I play italy again

>>144772947
10/10 arrow drawing m8

>>144772854
>Two hearts of iron games
>No crusader kings

I like this one though as it gives variety but get rid off either hoi3 or dh

http://www.strawpoll.me/10424163
http://www.strawpoll.me/10424163
http://www.strawpoll.me/10424163

>>144772947
holy fuck, delete all battle plans right now and just micro ur army in there. You should have one frontline set but somehow you have two, and it looks like you have multiple offensive lines for one small area.

>>144773102
>I like this one though as it gives variety but get rid off either hoi3 or dh


Nah

>>144773102
What's this poll even supposed to mean?

>>144772860
Didn't even know that existed
Is it basically War in the East but this time Germany is the one getting fucked?

Played C.O.R.E. again (am I really the only one here still playing it?), this time as Italy. Only lasted to 1945. Germans got stomped by the Soviets, and most of my army got trapped and annihilated in the Balkans. The only thing really that delayed my defeat was the numerous fortifications I had built in northern Italy. Every province all the way down to Rome had at least a level 3 fort, with Trento and Venice both having 8. The Red Army would launch attack after attack on the fortifications, and each time they were driven back with massive losses, with an average 50,000 loss per assault to my 5000 losses. They eventually pushed me down to Rome, where I got trapped because of Allied naval invasions. I was wondering how the Soviets still had so many men to spare after all the losses they had taken, so I switched over to them for a moment, and found they had literally zero manpower left, all their divisions were, at most, half-strength, and they had concentrated over 90 percent of their army on the peninsula against me. They were on their last legs. If I had held out for just a few more months, I'm almost sure I could have eked out a victory. Ah well, time to start over.

Did you know that King James I and Tokugawa Ieyasu had personal correspondence with eachother?

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>>144772854
>GPS 3
>not GPS 4

Lads, I actually enjoy HOI 4, should i consult to see if i have a brain tumor?

>>144772854
I like this. Aurora really should be on there.

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The Dunemaul in my test save have been able to conquer most of Tanaris and Ungoro, establishing themselves a pretty dandy kingdom.

My next task though is to be creating the religion map-the AI is going on a endless inter-marriage spree with Ogres marrying Bassilisks marrying Fire Rocs marrying Humans and I need to put some limits on it.

Also, I could use your guys advice on what to name this Warcraft CK2 Mod, Strawpoll below.

>>144773152
I know, I played HoI 2 and 3 but don't fuckin' understand battleplans. I know its a small enough area and microing would be undoubtedly better but I want to learn the battle plan thing on small scale first

>>144773228
Not sure how you can be this stupid so I'll assume you're a shitposter

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>what is BICE
You actually can't fight in winter, or Autumn when the rain comes, or quite a bit of spring come to think

Basically it completely changed hoi3 and made it much harder, some ways broke parts as Moscow became literally impossible to capture. So everything from aircraft to ships and even adding many new units was put in (including railway artillery)

Also had huge amounts of balancing

>>144773102
>I like this one though as it gives variety
>Aurora 4x
>literally a shitty 4x no one plays
>Geopolitical Simulator
>A hugely fucked up buggy mess made by some french jews who promise to fix it every iteration but just rehash the same thing with DRM up its ass
>actually supporting or recomming that
>AGEOD wargames literally having a special spot when they are already mentioned and wargaming has its own general

>>144773381
>GPS4 has tactical-level riot suppression

Wut is this real and where's the link if so

>>144773412
Woops, here it is.
http://www.strawpoll.me/

>>144773513
How much did johan pay you for this post?

>>144773278
Yep, it borrows systems for other games too for a better air war.

Just in case you didn't know though, War in the East 2 is being made. It's not been officially announced or anything though.

Lads how do I roleplay in EUIV? Are there any mods that force you to change your tactics with different leaders? I also have a problem with just allying myself with the strongest nations, and ignore things like vassalising smaller nations.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10424240
http://www.strawpoll.me/10424240
http://www.strawpoll.me/10424240

Which one /gsg? You get to pick.

>>144773426
did you play the tutorial? it shows a small scale, easy to make and use battleplan for italian conquest of ethiopia

>>144773453
You are a fucking retard, congrats

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What is better choice as Japan? Join the axis or create my own faction?

>>144772997
But why do we have to focus on new games?

It is not always the case that new = good; especially with Paradox.

People really should give a game a try regardless of when it was made (unless its features have been completely made obsolete by a newer game).

>>144773498
So long as we don't get BICE "balance" it'll actually be a good mod.

>>144773563
It's real. Google Power&Revolution: Geopolitical Simulator 4.

>>144773598
Smart one, are you.

>>144773736
uninstall.exe

>>144773703
How can one man be this fucking stupid?

It says hoi3 or dh?

What do you think it fucking means you absolute moronic twat

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>>144773412
>>144773598
http://www.strawpoll.me/10424261

Fug.

>>144772707
Rome Total War

>>144772207
Thanks. Might give it a shot. I only have HoI3 vanilla and people seem to say it's shit

>>144773630
I'm pretty much a newcomer, just went from DH/HoI3 straight to WitE
I just want more good wargames that are complex but fun, everything is either so old that they didn't know shit about UI design or full of babby tier sprites instead of glorious countiers

>>144773809
Any fucking thing since you didn't specify
You can say people voting for HoI3 either love HoI3 or hate HoI3

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Just (unintentionally) started the war over Yugoslavia

It is deafly silent on the Western Front. No shots fired by anybody

Is this normal? Got the spookiest feeling

>>144773820
Warkangz. no, really

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>>144773684
>tutorial
Fuck that, I go barebones

there a way to have divisions auto-deploy into a particular army?

>>144773412
>>144773820
Crusader Kangz

>>144773782
>no link

Thanks for the help

>>144773498
Agreed.
B Ice's 'balance and realism' unfortunately got to the point of artificial difficulty.

I love the expanded division setups and custom counters/insignias and the research tree and shit but desu thats about the only thing likeable about this mod.

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Total scrublord eu4 babby here, help me push in.

Also is there a merge function for these armies shit, mao gave me a bunch of shit i want to merge into my army.

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The bloody princess, Yuantong Sao, looks upon the shattered Ming dominion with mixed emotions. Though certainly the civil war in the short term would make smuggling and raiding more profitable, would the near powers in China tolerate and appease the Haizei, or strike against them?

>>144773820
Needs to have Warcraft in the title or people will skim over it

How bout "Warcraft: Kings" ?

>>144773959
french are planning their battle plans so they get an attack bonus

how do i learn to play hoi4

>>144773513
Just because a game is "4X" doesn't mean that it can't have heavy grand strategic elements as well.

Unless, of course, you want to say grand strategy = paradox, in which case I feel bad for you and your constrained definition, as it only includes buggy messes of games with shit AI.

>>144773776
Because new games are the lifeblood of this general, this isn't /vr/ or a museum
Besides we have plenty of old games too, we usually keep 2 games in the series in it: the new and the old

Put DH in the mentions, this won't stop anyone from playing it

how do i learn to play hoi4?

topkek leddit literally beat the nazis as Belgium

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4myglp/ww2_with_the_invincible_belgian_waffles/

>>144773959
The Phoney War has happened in two of my games, in the other Germany was retarded and decided to attack France in winter.

>>144774142
do the tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLk-D_AxOcUaqBuIs6oXyKsx9K-hT94a2s

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkQMBP16-XLEVHqSC4CM82aHB10OaG9-T

>>144773959

>attacking Bosnia
>not trying to encircle by going through Slavonia and towards Belgrade
>not diddling Mountainnigger

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Best HoI right here.

>>144774148
Yes it does
4X games aren't grand strategy
Deal with it and fuck off to your own general

I actually like some features, I.E. events can go either way in some cases. Like Amelia Earhart may not go missing. Also now Japan doesn't have to invade the entirety of China.

>>144774158
I think good discussion needs a balance of old and new.

If a general only talks about old games, then yeah, it becomes stagnant.

Yet, if a general only talks about new games, then it becomes cancerous and hype-(or anti-hype)-driven.

I'm going to jump ahead to the English Civil War in EU4. What can I expect by going off bookmarks later in the timeline?

>>144774284
I see nothing wrong with giving Mosley every single cabinet position

>>144774087
yo
>>144768451

>>144771720
>100% world tension
>in 1937

conquered and fully in control of france and all of its colonies in 1938, then onto fighting britain, if i win this war it's pretty much over

>>144769604

is this the arumba DLC?

>>144774382
A shorter campaign

>>144774356
Yes it can but DH is the oldest one in the series and there's absolutely no reason to keep it in
It's not like we are removing every old game, we are just replacing the oldest game in a series with the new one
Nothing stops you from discussing or posting it here, but there's no reason to keep 2 old games of a series

>>144774469
What happens at 100%% world tension ?

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How many fucking divisions do I have to pull out of my ass to invade china? They are not the HOI3 pushovers anymore.

>>144773513
>>literally a shitty 4x no one plays
Fuck you, Aurora is great
>wargaming has its own general
What

>>144774475
>Arumba DLC
what

All I did was change nationalist china to democratic.

>>144774356
Just ignore the shiposter, its the same butthurt autist who wants to get rid of DH

>ask question
>everyone starts quoting my post with laughing pictures and/or call me a retard

>>144769604
I should try PRC again and go Democratic instead of Fascist.

>>144774572
As Japan? Why not just ask them to be puppet state?
>>144769604
Historically that was the ROC flag.

>>144774356
What if all the new games are terrible though? Discussing those only invites the worst kinds of retards
For example the Dragon Age general or the TES general

any overhaulds of hoi4 which makes it worthwhile?

>>144774306
So "grand strategy = paradox" then?

>>144774523
literally nothing

it was at 100% war tension, and i raised war tension by 120% after annexing the entirety of france and yugoslavia, but it changed NOTHING as it was still 100%, i then declared war on britain myself and it's currently an ongoing war, but america is not going to interfere i'm fairly certain

>>144774830
Ask again in two years.

>>144774790
Yeah its just so boring

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>>144774707

>>144774572
bro, you need like oil to do that, maybe you'll find some in the dutch east indies, so conquer that.
But to do that you need to get past the USA, destroying their fleet(like at a major base, think pearl harbor) will probably do the trick

>>144774790
I'm not sure puppets are helpful since there are no stockpiles, and I wanted to conquer them myself to use their factories, supplies and endless chinks to invade russia later.

>>144774983
I guess but its a fuckton of effort for little payoff.
>>144774906
Democracy is pretty boring.

>>144774382
They're really unbalanced to current patches if I remember correctly, I tried playing the UK in one of the later ones recently and basically went bankrupt instantly.

This whole discussion made me realize that DH shills are way worse than paradrones

Is there any way to speed up the time it takes to build ships?

I'm shitting 2 destroyers every month with germoney but building cruisers or above the max I can go is 1.5 every year.

I want to have a solid navy to defend myself from the UK(and later keep the US on the other side of the Atlantic) before the war starts but with the way things are going I'll have to postpone the war untill '42.

>draw line for two fronts for a single 19 division army
>instead of going to both fronts across both countries they all crowd up in one front
>don't even cover that front fully

There is absolutely no reason I shouldn't just manual this shit.

>>144775057
>I guess but its a fuckton of effort for little payoff.
Yes, but a Japan that does not invade china is a failed Japan desu(not t b h)
>Democracy is pretty boring.
Exporting freedumb is fun though, but being Axis is usually more fun because Odds are stacked against the nazis, being democratic basically means being Allies, who stomp everyone when merica joins

>>144770478
>not independent
kek go back to /twg/

>>144768093
HOI4 being uploaded to archive any time soon?

>>144775239
oh get off your fucking high horse. it's not shilling to think a game people actually talk about should be in the op and we should get rid of the game no one ever plays

>>144775326
Just plan your navy to be ready in 41, but start the war in 39, beat Pooland and France, smash Russia and then go beat the UK

>>144775341
The odds are always stacked in favor of the player

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>>144774451
>>144768451
I thought of doing Muslim or Christian, but historically the majority of pirates were (at least culturally) Confucian, ethnically Chinese, and not of the mostly inland Muslim minorities. Christians didn't have a big presence in China until late in the EU4 period, and a Christian pirate kingdom of Chinese Confucian sailors just isn't plausible enough for me.Secular Confucian IMO is the best way to represent culturally Confucian Chinese pirates who didn't give a shit about raiding and burning their religious and cultural kin.

Government type for the Wokou is the ambrosian republic, in order to represent the non hierarchical organization, because the title of Captain and defender sounds cool, and because I was too lazy to rig up a special pirate republic government type.

Yuantong, a reserved leader, at least by Haizei standards, has a moment of mirth when some of the braver merchants residing the outer coastal towns request protection from some of her own pirates.

She knew that although this sort of internal dissension and conflict was not ideal, it was inevitable in the free isles.

>>144775341
>Yes, but a Japan that does not invade china is a failed Japan desu(not t b h)

Not if the China is Japan's puppet. You still invade like 50% of China anyhow.

>Exporting freedumb is fun though

Be Japan and export anime desu

>>144775334
>There is absolutely no reason I shouldn't just manual this shit.

Enjoy your -50% combat efficiency goy

>>144775239
wow I am now a #HeartsofUniversalismissile

>>144775461
>my game is more popular it deserves a special spot fuck variety
Fuck off DHhrone

>>144775580
>Enjoy your -50% combat efficiency goy

Oh no you'll just have to throw more units at it to win instantly

>>144774830
You are aware that it just came out less than 2 days ago right?

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>someone makes a valid complaint about Lord Jewhan's DLC policy
>fanboy to the rescue!
Context: leddit thread about how few portraits there are so they can be monetized

>3DM crack ransomware

>>144775526
Not when you're playing fascist funland or something
>>144775561
>export anime
Anime faction incoming

How do you build missiles? I've unlocked basic missiles 1 and the only thing I can build are the rocket interceptors.

>>144775648
I don't even play dh, I play hoi3

I just think it's dumb to give a top spot to a game literally no one plays

>>144775751
I dl the FitGirl torrent on KAT and it works like a dream.

So far no Ransomware or Johan popping from the bottom of my screen.

>>144775721
>fluffy DLC
platinum mad

Newfag to HOI

What's a good general plan for Barbarossa?
3 armies going to Leningrad, Kiev and Moscow?
Roughly 72 divisions in total?

>>144775809
Yeah right, that's why you got so butthurt DHrone

How do I uncensor the German version?

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>>144775721

>>144775913
3 or 4?

For III you need at least 4 full infantry armies and 2 pz armies.

For IV you just need to draw the line.

>>144775965
t. johan

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can anyone tell me whats the point of researching synthetic oil techs in hoi4

they dont do shit

>>144776038
kek

>>144774136
.... I didn't even know you had to do that

Where are the tooltips for that?

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>>144776031

>>144775775
Make the Anglosphere Anime Again
>>144775751
Kek, no.
>>144776014
Btw, is the cracked version the German version? Hitler looks like Shadow Hitler and it looks pretty fucking badass but kinda stupid, same with the ""Nazi"" flag for Germany

>>144776014
mod on steam workshop that doesn't change the checksum
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698731211

>>144776215
We've been bitching about battle plans for a year, newfag

>>144775648
>>144775239
>people complaining about DH being removed are automatically shills!
I just think it looks nice to have a good variety of good games on the top of the image with pictures. I'd be up for expanding the top part of the image. It's not like 2881 is a required maximum height, anyway.

>>144775334
how the fuck are people so incapalbe of using the battle plan system

literally all you do is click the button that says select half of your divisions and assign then to the second front

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>no hoi4 torrent yet

>scroll through the thread
>nobody plays liquoria anymore
YES

BASED PODCAT IS THE SAVIOR OF GSG THANK YOU BASED PODCAT

>>144776365
>good variety
>let's leave 3 hoi games, that's variety

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>mfw trying to manage a huge country while being invaded from every corners

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Is there a way to manage exports? This shit is retarded, I want muh steel back but I don't know how to cancel it

>>144769527
how the FUCK do you do any wars in South America with America not completely pushing your shit in? Let alone Americas allies.

>>144776564
You can set your economy to being more or less export focused, but having it less export focused slows down tech.

>>144776374
wtf are you on about m8

>>144776694
And factory output.

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Did they remove world map screenshot feature? F11 takes screenshots and F10 does not do anything.

>>144776489
Bump some of the Errata titles up, too, then. Also, I'd be up for putting Aurora on the OP image.

There's already not much variety anyway because 7/8 of those games are Paradox titles.

>>144776215
Just make an ordinary battle plan (frontline and offensive line) then look at your divisions. Once they get to their position they start getting percentage increases to a plan preparation attack bonus until it caps at 50%

>>144776591
If you're playing as a South American nation you should be fine until USA gets the focus Pax Americana, if you're trying to invade Southamerica as a european or whatever you have to fight USA, UNLESS you are in the allies. It seems like if you're in the same faction as somebody they wont attack you if you attack someone they guaranteed.

>>144776330
Can you answer my question? How do I 'prepare' battle plans? I thought you just executed them whenever you wanted

>>144776564
>Steel is the primary metal
It's an alloy though. Can paradox get anything right?

>>144776801
>le slippery slope fallacy
>all because muh DH isn't in the OP
t. DHrone
You fucks are worse than paradrones

>>144776827
>>144776820
Cheers lad

Honestly if Distant Worlds was replaced by Stellaris the infopic would be perfect.

How is Distant Worlds allowed when it's sold as a 4x and Stellaris is sold as a GSG?

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>Russia has an unbroken chain of puppets from Transamur to Madrid

my god

is the Kaiserriech team making a version for HOI4?

What's the best division comp in HOI 4?

>>144777060
Because Stellaris has its own general and it is 4x

>>144777106
Yes

They're teaming up with Rob and the Victoria Ultimate creator to make it.

$15 plus tax

>>144776820
Not the guy who originally asked but my plans always get a -20% modifier for "division still preparing" when I have everything set up for weeks

>>144777060
Cause Stellaris was absolute normie-tier bullshit.

And even tho it was 'sold as a grand strategy' its still more of a 4x

>>144776912
How the fuck was my argument "slippery slope?"

I'd call you a straight-out-of-logic-101 college freshman, but even they would know how better than this.

All I want is variety; it's not like we're limited to image size. What's wrong with having lots of games pictured with lots of screenshots?

>>144777157
3x3 infantry + 1 artillery, then stick recon+eng+arty+hospital+logistics on the supports

>>144777173
only because autists got angry and insisted it didn't belong since it would dilute muh vicky2 discussions

surprised they haven't gone all out against hoi4

>>144777106
All the original fags have long since left, it's just a bunch of localizationfags copying events over to HoI4

>>144777305

thanks senpai going to try this out

>>144777173
>>144777291
If Distant Worlds is GSG then Stellaris is DEFINITELY a GSG so either Stellaris belongs here or Distant Worlds doesn't...

also stellaris is one of the only good games Paradox has ever made

HOI4>EU4>Stellaris>autism

are there any "necessary" "expansions" or "DLCs" for hearts of iron III?

>>144777060
Distant Worlds has deeper, more grand strategic elements than Stellaris, though.

>>144777304
Just stop replying, its a shitposter

>>144777275
It can be really slow because divisions have to be at max organization to start "preparing"

>>144777420
>playing hearts of autism 3 when HOI4 came out
are you fucking serious?

>>144777515
alright can I at least have them exercise in the meanwhile or does it make it longer to prepare?

How is EU2 compared to other EU games?

>>144777446
>hurr durr this game has a bunch of autistic micromanaging and is a spreadsheet simulator so its GSG unlike those CASUAL games pssh *tips fedora*
Not everyone wants to practically be doing work when they're supposed to be playing a children's game.

>>144777387
lol no for everything
go back to your general

>>144777420
It's "old" Paradox, all the "expansions" are "necessary"
god I hate quote mark misusing fags

>>144777693
it's shit

EU4 was the first good game paradox ever made, before that they were totally shit

based johan and based wiz saved paradox

>>144777304
>this game is in for variety
>let's not replace it to leave 3 other games of the same series
>why let's add all other oddities game for variety
>he can't even understand a slippery slope

Too much DHroning is messing with your brain

>expand the image but don't you remove DH
That's some high level droning right there

>>144777649
You should definitely exercise while you're waiting for a war goal or something, but it sets the entire armys organization to 20% and then it has to prepare again, so keep that in mind

>can't end the war until Germany has had enough
>my grossargentinums is being eaten by America, England and ANZACs faster than I can move my troops around

SOMEONE HAS TO END THIS