/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist, Payday 2 General

people actually still play this shitpile?

>>144507475
>Skilltree Guide (going to be out of date):
ya fucked up, son

Ex pres with suit or lbv 70 armor lbv?

>all these gullible goyim sucking almir's dick for update 100
We deserve all the shit they give us

>last played when hoxout got released
>two weeks ago my friend brings up payday again
>4 new heisters, more DLC bullshit, microtransactions, new decks
>before I even get comfortable they also remake the skilltree into some retarded easy bullshit
good shit

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7th for Counterfeit being a shitty endurance map and worse than Undercover

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>skill tree updated
>remake my shotgun build
>primary is the usual kind of scattershot Raven
>secondary is a Locomotive with slug rounds and 100 accuracy that can kill shields with two shots through the shield, and hit snipers no matter how far away
>shotgun sniper

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>Those new ghost concealment skills,

So OP it's just funny

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>>144509675
>not using Rogue with suit.

Base dodge a shit, developpers seems to really hate middle grounds in this game.

>>144513569
I want to use med bags with rouge will I die a lot? I don't want to be the one shitter with first aid kits

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>optical illusions basic

>>144509675
armor. Suit's too squishy, your stacks are going to be wasted.

>>144512879
>implying the previous skill system was hard

>>144513303
>endurance

you can solo DW cook off forever with silent AP turrets. 2 on the road + 2 in the garden and nothing will ever get near the house.

>>144514284
This

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>>144509682
Dont you understand? 505 is the devil, Overkill dindu nuffin!

Anarchist or Grinder ?

>Can have every single stealth skill you could ever want including bag moving skills by level 40
I like some of the new loud skills but as far as stealth is concerned, the rebalance really took the nuance out it.

>>144516378
ECM RUSH GUIZE

>>144516378
the only nuance stealth used to have was choosing between ECM and body bags.

>>144516602
and now you don't even have to choose.
Thanks, Jack of all trades

I don't think putting them all in 1 tree actually robs the nuance. Everyone's stealth build was basically identical before, it just took more points to complete. So instead, everyone's stealth build is the same until about level 40, an then they can start spending points on other options. the intuitive choice might be putting points into dodge and crits, but you could get mines to use as extra spotters, or stack up the drill powers, or have enough points left to have a solidly playable plan B build, instead of "shit goes loud, time to restart automatically. because I have no real safety or damage output to deal with Gensec elites"

last played fuck knows when
does DLC unlocker still work? no way i'm buying all this shit

>>144516378
If anything its loud that's been robbed of nuance cos stealth was never that complex anyway. Before you had to choose between Inspire/pistol messiah and overkill/ICTV. Now you can have it all in a single build. Now the only real choice is if you are going to be an armored inspire shotgunner or a sentry shitter. Bit more boring now imo desu.

>>144516378
I like it now you can have
all ecm skills
body bags
trip mines to spot
silent saw
all at once you can also take jack of all trades so you could get stuff like
2 body bags/1 ecm
2 ecms/7 trip mines

free safes when

Its payday fellas?

>dreamed Biker had a perk deck based around bonuses for slav squatting
What the fuck is wrong with me...

shitters

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>>144507475
I made the most accurate shotgun you can possibly make under the new skillsets and rebalances. Only four points away from perfect ;_;

With the Far Away skill, it has perfect ADS accuracy. The shot has ZERO spread. All that flechette hits exactly the same spot at any distance. It's be great for slugs, but worthless otherwise.

Now if only they'd remove the only one pellet per target hit damage restriction.

>>144525737
Don't cosplay me, I call this thread faggots and shitters!

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>tfw you fall asleep and forget to unpause your download
>still have 800 megabytes left to download before you can play Payday

FUCK

>>144526440
Why would you pause it in the first place

>>144526440
Why would you start it in the first place

>>144526440
>800 megabytes
sorry for your loss

>>144526957
Because anything else I try to do on the Internet slows to a crawl while downloading anything.

>>144525803
Did they unfuck slugs to not be single pellets and instead be sniper bullets?

>>144525803
I thought you didn't want accuracy on shotguns because it means more spread since every pellet does the same damage anyway and doesn't stack up

I just want to put a Theia on a bronco. Is that so wrong?

>>144528995
That is exactly right. That weapon in question is only useful for Slugs.

>>144529313
Are slugs gud now?

>>144529525
see
>>144528926

I don't know.

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>>144525803
Is that a fucking RPG ?

Is a 200 damage bronco with trigger happy aced a bit too overkill?

>>144531347
bronco without any pistol skills is overkill enough already

>>144531347
you don't need anything other than Equilibrium basic, and even that is debatable. Put points in it only if you have some to spare.

>>144515990
>bottom two have generic positive messages
>better call them cucks to try and invalidate them lol

this meme is retarded cancer

>>144529060
Yes, you should put it on the Judge instead

>>144525803
Keep in mind there are skills that boost your accuracy, so you really don't need a perfect 100 on the gun itself

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>>144515990
I swear to god most of these reviews are just straight shilling. Not even an issue of the reviews being written by dumbfuck casuals that don't know how to read so they think everything's good now. This shit might as well be written by Trashly.

>>144534565
Lol buttmad salt shitter

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>>144402967
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- I Knew What I Did Was Wrong (i_knew_what_i_was_doing_was_wrong)
- Painting Yourself Into A Corner (pink_panther)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

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>>144533621
>>144535023

Haven't played in a while, is 3 Deagles still the optimal loadout?

>>144535318
Deagles are dead.

>>144535318
3 Deagles is still the optimal loadout for whining at people to bring ammo bags because you'll run out after 5 minutes.

>>144535436
Really? I thought they escaped the Bataclan

>>144535571
Ammo pickups were nerfed, plus low ROF pistols no longer fire as fast as you can click

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>>144513476
Get on my level.

>>144536476
>Fake 46

>>144535684
the joke
.
.
.
.
.
your head

>>144536656
There was a joke?

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>>144507475
Let's see some raifu names

>>144538723
Kill yourself

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>>144538821
Ladies first.

>>144539404
You first

>>144538723
>/k/ memes

Surprised you didn't label it a moist nugget. Now shoot yourself

What's a harder list to make, the viable weapons or the unviable weapons?

>>144540484
Go find out yourself you lazy shit

>>144540484
Just update the weapon spreadsheet.

>>144540610
Fuck you.

Does the skill that increases the range and power of your intimidation make it easier to convert cops?

what weapons are not worth using anymore

>>144541705
>Does increasing the power of your intimidation make it easier to intimidate cops?

>>144540484
>>144540610
How do you tell if a weapon is viable or not?

>>144541789
Deagle. Beagles are better in every way.

>>144541895
Do they hit damage breakpoints?
Do they have decent stats with the damage breakpoints?
Can you use them in a DW heist without being a useless piece of shit that can't kill cops?

>>144541895
Equip it, run some DW, rate how hard a time you have. If you're completely being carried, note why (keep running out of ammo? Not doing enough damage? Missing targets?)
So yes. If you're good enough, everything is viable and if you're shit nothing is.

>>144542112
Are the damage breakpoints still the same as they've always been?

Is pd2skills updated yet so I can play around with weapon mods and shit without having to sink all my money into just testing guns?

Is there a point in getting infamy anymore since the new skilltree system makes the 10% discount a little useless.

>>144542636
>Are the damage breakpoints still the same as they've always been?
They never really changed. Some lesser used breakpoints moved around but nobody cared about them anyway. Cop HP values were basically never changed.

>>144542636
>Is there a point in getting infamy anymore since the new skilltree system makes the 10% discount a little useless.
I infamyd and saved myself 2 skillpoints to put somewhere far more useful, so yeah it's useful still.

10 wankers

What are the least viable weapons even when fully modded? Assault rifles first please.

>>144547578
Any weapon that cant hit a breakpoint, the most common one, 40

>Not having skins
>Being this much of a shitter

>>144550997
I have all the skins unlocked

Anyone who wants to try to finish Goat Simulator Pro on Deathwish?

>>144550997
Ive got all the ones that don't look like shit.
All 6 of them.

>>144547578
None of them are horrible, but the Queens wrath and Valkyria are most mediocre, though the Valkyria can be made pretty decent with silencer skills. The Dragan rifle would be pretty shit too if it didn't have a good RoF as a saving grace.

What went wrong?

What's the maximum amount of skillpoints now? Still 120?

>>144555059
YEAH

Is a primary shotgun plus a saw worth using or should I bring a rifle or LMG instead?

What's a good secondary to use with a primary shotgun? Should it be an SMG or an accurate pistol, or the China Puff or RPG? Or would it be better to take a rifle or LMG when using the China Puff?

>>144557638
Take the m16 with your china puff for maximum IT AINT ME

>>144557638
>shotgun plus a saw
That's a question that depends on which heist you're playing

Really all those questions depend on your build as well.

Havent played in a while, is Muscle better than Grinder after the nerf? Is the new deck any good? Any other decks good?

>>144559438
Muscle and Grinder are situational, not one better than the other.

>>144558690
I want to do an ICTV Techforcer like I always did back in the day. Have one build for straight firepower and one for opening everything probably, not sure exactly what I want to do yet.

Can I make that work while still having the drill, c4 and saw skills, or should I go with a build meant for wearing a ballistic vest?

I had the most fun being the ICTV wall with a loco shotgun, and the drill skills and saw are just good for clearing heists quickly.

What's the good perk deck for that? I always used Armorer.

LMG + Loco and M79 + loco were both fun, never really used the Piglet much, but I've been wanting to try out primary shotguns a bit since I've heard they're viable now.

Did they remove the ammo pickup penalty from 000 Buck or just the ammo capacity penalty?

>>144560161
Infiltrator
They are
No penalty anymore

>>144560756
>infiltrator
Really?

So there's not reason to not use 000 buck now right?

>>144561976
000 buck is just free damage at this point

Does Pirate Perfection still work? I want to cheat myself in all the perk deck points and Infamy V. And all the weapon mods because fuck grinding.

>>144562331
install it then install haxhud and join the group and it will work, the iph shit they include in PP doesnt work anymore.

>>144562118
but less ammo

>>144564450
>but less ammo
Do you even play the game

>>144564450
It just gives you 15 extra flat damage points , no ammo reduction or pickup rate decrease, simply 15 damge for every shotgun for free

>>144559438
i like muscle because you can regain health and save ammo.

So does anyone else have a problem with the audio in cookoff slowly degrading until its just gunshots and then crashing when you beat the level?

>>144572265
Nope.

Uninstall your mods.

>Full armor tree
>Full melee tree
>Full turret tree
>Infiltrator
>Katana

I am become the ammo maker.

>>144575320
It sucks that Sociopath doesn’ts increase ROF and swing/melee speed Thing that Richard/Rooster mask does actually

>Buzzsaw 42 LMG
>Body expertise
>Shock and Awe
>Heavy impact

This is the human blender experience I was looking for all my life

Okay niggas i'm bored, what do you think the new hitman perk deck is going to be?

>>144575849
>M308
>subsonic rounds
>frenzy
>spotter aced
It's a delete all kinds of cops with a single click before they get close episode

>>144576994
What new hitman perk deck?

>>144578796
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/357287935551962222/
They remaking it from scratch, hitman is going to be something new now since akimbo is in the base game there's no reason to use hitman at all

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So how long is it going to take until Overkill completely unfucks the game?

>>144580360
lol

>>144580360
>unfucks

>>144575671
you're goofing

>>144580360
What are you talking about my fellow heister? Overkill has fixed all the issues with the game with Update 100. They listened to the community and got rid of 505, who were responsible for everything people complained about. There is nothing wrong with Payday 2 now and anyone claiming otherwise is just a troll.

Anyone wanna grind out a ton of heists? I'm solo grinding to infamy 5.

>>144583139
>I'm solo grinding
>while asking for people to play with

ICTV heavy build with Raven.
Is it worth it to go for Frenzy?

>>144583226
yes i'm saying im soloing atm, would anyone wanna play a few dw heists?

>>144583139
group chat

>>144583463
im in

>>144578689
>subsonic rounds
what

GET THE FUCK UP

This Inspire Aced skill can't be used for another 20 seconds.

Did they ever add the toggle to Messiah like they said they would or did Overkill Overlie again

>>144589094
They removed Messiah completely.

>>144589765
Are you retarded, its on fugitive middle tree

>>144590001
Overkill changed the way it works

>>144590216
>Basic gives you 1 charge
>ACED lets you recharge it with medibags
The same, it just changed the 2 extra charges with the ability to recover the charge with medibags

>>144590564
It has a toggle now

>>144528926
No. Slugs are still totally fucking useless.

>>144590767
see
>>144525803

>>144575671
>Richard/Rooster mask does actually
Nigga that mask has no effect.

>>144590891
A Rattlesnake performs the same or better with no skill investment compared to an AP Slug Shotgun with over 40 points invested in making it viable.

AP Slugs are still totally fucking useless. Just use a sniper rifle.

>>144591147
Except you don't use the slug shotgun as your primary, and it's not the reason you invest in the shotgun tree to begin with. You get your usual scattershot gun for your main gun, and for your other gun you get a slugthrower to deal with shields/snipers/bulldozer faceplates. And you still get the sweet reloading speed bonuses and other buffs from the tree. And there are no sniper rifle secondaries. Fag.

Can I still use SAM to unlock achievement-bound masks? It used to work before, but I've been hearing about people getting Cheater flagged as a result.

>>144591382
If I take a Secondary Shotgun it's going to be HE. It has the same range profile as AP, plus stun and area of effect.

AP are STILL totally fucking useless, because not only are there better weapons than AP Shotguns, there are better ammos than AP Slugs. Loser.

>>144591501
The game checks if you own the DLC or not

>>144591382
>Except you don't use the slug shotgun as your primary
Hmm, where have I heard this shitter excuse before.
>Except you don't use the explosive long bow as your primary

>>144591637

Well yeah, but I mean about DLC I actually have, or free shit like the Jimmy masks.

>>144591735
ALL, the game is going to check both if you own the DLC and if you unlocked the achievement, if 1 of the 2 is missing you get the tag

>>144591735
Yimmy masks aren't achievement locked.
Cheater tag only cares about bad goys. If you were dumb enough to pay for something you can cheat a billion duplicates of it into your inventory and Overkill doesn't care.

Die Hard heists when.

>Simon Peter Gruber heister

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>>144592048

>Yimmie masks aren't achievement locked

The Ground Is Too Cold
In the Boiling Point job, have no crew members get downed on the OVERKILL difficulty or above. Unlocks the "Zero 68" mask, "Nebula" material and "Hexagon" pattern

The Pacifist
Complete the Murky Station job without anyone in the crew killing anyone. Unlocks the "Augmentation" mask, "Spaceship" material and "Squares" pattern.

Etc.

>>144592037
Good to know it wasn't changed then. Thanks!

140 billion dollars in gold bullion from the Federal Reserve Bank

he gets away with it too in the alternate ending

More than any of you have stolen :^)

I farted

ded thred
ded gaem

LISTEN UP

Payday 2 wrote the composition to a good game but didn't hit any of the notes correctly.

>>144591623
Is the streetsweeper still the best option for a secondary HE blaster?

How does the Goat Simulator shotgun fit in the shotgun hierarchy?

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>>144599324
>Street sweeper.
>Best secondary HE shotty.

>>144599759
It was a long time ago when you just used it to blast down shields and dozers quickly.

>>144599324
Judge HE is the best

>>144599914
HE Judge can't be beat.

So with Overwhelming Force and HVT, DMRs are on par with snipers. How does that feel for people using Trash Removal snipers?

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>he seriously believes he's hurting us by using the dlc unlocker.

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>>144599000
Making it appealing for the casual audience was a mistake.

>we're removing the duck&cover dodge bonus because pressing "control" is too hard for our community.

Fug this.

>>144602517
been that way since the deaglepocalypse

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>>144535050
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- Yeah He's A Gold Digger (yeah_hes_a_gold_digger)
- Earn Some Pocket Money (earn_250k_cash)

And this week'snew Weekly Side Job is:
- It's Getting Hot In Here (slakt_5)
Complete it for your chance at an Infamous quality Anonymous mask!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)

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Can armorfag be viable still?

I love doing ICTV builds where I get to be the fucking wall.

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thoughts?

>>144605524
Well, ICTV is plenty viable with all the movement bonuses, but you're not going to be any kind of 'wall on DW. The rule is still very much
>pop your head out for 3-4 seconds
>armor breaks
>pop back into cover

>>144606292
How well does dodge work on DW?

I usually just play on Overkill for fun, when I do play Deathwish it's usually stealth only, but I've been wanting to try going loud, thinking I'll probably build dodge just because armor doesn't last at all even with all the armor skills.

>>144606728
dodge doesnt work at all anymore

and armor seems decent now with the anarchist deck + armorer and shotgunnerskills

>>144606728
Grinder's still okay, but it actually requires some independent thought instead of running around like a retard and being invincible

>>144605524
ICTV has always been viable. It is a fact of life.

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>>144605603
Still not as cute as sydney

>>144606728

Rogue is the only deck that has dodge. Any other deck will only have base 5 and 15 when you're sprinting. If you want to run a suit you'll have to have other defensive measures.

Rogue+ FAKs is still pretty good.

Muscle+Hostage Taker ace is decent as well, you'll end up with about 480hp when you have a converted cop. Not only are joker cops way more durable than before, dominating enemies has also been made way easier. And since you have Muscle you'll be regenerating a lot of hp.

Grinder is just not as good as it used to be. Your best bet is probably to wear the LBV and get some armor boosting skills, because you can no longer tank whole assault waves with your HP. Since you'd have a miniscule amount of dodge in a suit, you may as well go for more armor.

>>144611559
>Rogue is the only deck that has dodge.
Crook has dodge too.

>>144611559

Actually I forgot, Crook will get you some dodge and a decent amount of armor as well. No HP regen but it's probably on par with Roue as far as survivability.

Ex-Presidents is still kinda shit, I wouldn't bother with it.

>>144611653
Ex-Presidents only needs one fucking change to be actually usable, it's such a goddamn shame you lose ALL your stored health upon armor regen

>seven points of useless skills to get insider assets
Please, expert driver is all I want.

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daily reminder sentries are OP

>>144619859
Let them have their moment in the spotlight. For literally years they were trash.

Is ECM feedback worth it anymore, if you fully expect stealth to always fail?

>>144622567
if you expect stealth to fail you would've been better off going in loud

>>144622765
I know but every so often I run into a group of pubs who will be kind enough to just sit in the van while the stealthers do their thing (rare) or they actually know how to "stelf" (VERY fucking rare)

>>144572265
Happened to me yesterday, I've never used any mods. Don't think there any countermeasures other than just leaving sooner.

Is jack of trades aced worth it?

If they just add more heisters the game would be fixed

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>>144629481
Van Darkholme heister when?

>>144629481
you are the cancer killing the game

>>144629757
that which is already daed can never die

Perk decks were a big fat fucking mistake.

If OVK wanted people to specialize they could made the skill trees fucking bigger.

>>144630150
It's a zombie game!!!

>>144632823
Your birth was a big fat fucking mistake.

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pdg-tan lewds when

>>144632823
>wanting more tiers
pls

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>http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/412448158146755971/

So where were you when the developpers said it was okay to cheat in their games and use the skin/dlc unlockers ?

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>>144622567
Too much points to invest too get the best of it but there is nothing wrong to bring a single ecm for a "one-shot feedback" since they're added by default.

http://steamcommunity.com/id/l-lewd/
I want some (2) heisters for DW
No gay shit

I finally heard of some shit about Update 100.
It is true that now Shaped charges and Tripmines are completely different now?
Can i be a fucking WALL with Enfoncer?

>>144635991
Yes and yes

>>144636307
Now i have to see an fucking optimal build somewhere, i really don't know how to make it work.

>>144636386
Maniac, Overkill, ICTV, Inspire with FAKs and youre good to go with a bunch of points leftover

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>Stockholm Syndrome now looks viable.
HOLY FUCK THEY FINALLY MANAGED TO GET IT USEFUL.

>>144636635
It's not viable if you don't die like a shitter

>>144636557
I wanted to go Overkill, ICTV, Fully Loaded and then focus on Drill and Shapechagers.
Maybe i could drop the Fully Loaded and Drills and go for somewhere.
Fuck, i don't what to choose now.
I have only 105 points for now.

>>144636928
Finally to use a reason to have it when you go play pubs and you get shitters.

>>144637103
Shapecharges arent even really worth using anymore since saw is unlocked by default, the mines arent really good so the whole tree is pretty shit, the drill skills are only for saving some time in some heists. It's barely worth skilling. Fully loaded isnt really necessary as well if youre not a shitter. Just get Inspire and FAKs, ditch ammo.
>>144637103
>Playing with pubs
Just add me and save yourself the trouble
http://steamcommunity.com/id/l-lewd/

>>144637602
How OK are you with fresh infamy faggots?
I am on level 45.

>>144637729
I can singlehandedly carry you on DW, I also don't give a fuck how bad you are.

>carry two bags at once
How does that work?

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>>144634975
>anime
"no"

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>>144634975
>No gay shit
>Is gay himself

>fully loaded aced doesn't stack with walk in closet
Is it still worth it for the throwable pickup chance?

>>144634975
go away from this general you stupid anime faggot

>>144634975
this is the most cancerous steam page I've ever viewed, congratulations you monstrous faggot

>>144639171
>>144639512
>>144640640
>>144641341
Thanks for the (You)s you bunch of autists

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>>144639171
>>144639512
>>144640640
>>144641341
>complaining about anime on an anime imageboard

>>144642021
>>144642272
kill youself

>>144632823
>implying tier bonuses were any better

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What's the best LMG?

>>144644290
Brenner for accuracy
Buzzsaw for dakka
RPK for A E S T H E T I C S

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>>144645583
>not the RPK for accuracy

>>144646689
My mistake, then. I recall easily being able to reach 18 accuracy back before the weapon rebalance, so I was still in that mindset.

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Why can't we do Tabula Rasa with any community weapon?

Why does it have to be the gold AK?

>Use rouge + suit
>every single shot hits me no matter what and I lose my armor in an instant
>use LBV + crook
>dodge everything and avoid damage constantly
did suit dodge get nerfed or something? I remember dodging far more before.

>>144616249
holy fuck this, what the fuck were they thinking

is it worth getting extra damage for shotguns, or just reload speed?

Is a Brawler/Berzerker/Yakuza build any good?

>>144648315
It's certainly fun

>>144648315
yakuza's alright if you're not going for Frenzy.

>>144647361
Well yes, its down to 5 from 10, but that should affect both builds.

>>144647205
Quit your whining, it's never been easier than it is now. Just bring a sentry and solo that shit with the bots.

>>144619859
>>144622490
Is Engineering Aced meant to disable the ability to re-deploy your sentries? If not, I hope that they fix this shit in a hotfix.

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>Overkill_Ashley: got the wrong guns for deathwish :x
what the fuck how do you need good guns for dw
they literally made the game so you can use fucking trash in dw and you won't lose
jesus fucking wept

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hellow histers i have ruturned from almito laboratoris and bring DLS that is created at starbeeze software. dont tell almito that i snatched right up some dls ogay :DDD

4DAZA-W222H-2GRD9
C8ZQB-CH283-WEEIQ
366D7-6Z49W-Y2HQ3
Q8720-NAN4H-T0VLA
AYIAJ-XHCV3-795HV
4086L-W8R47-F74G5
60GK2-7998Y-G8QQF
59KVC-3HWDC-CYA75
KQC3K-F5CCI-5ZKIA
6JMCA-8407I-I7VE9
HY2LC-9DB42-QTMQH
CXN2P-X9BTY-4V2R7

XD geep thos helmet floating heisterrrrrrrs

>>144652180
>Q.U.B.E.
What the fuck is this?

>>144652484
dls

>>144652484
You should go play it, it's pretty fun :^)

>>144647970
anyone?

>>144653167
Depends on the shotgun.

Go extra damage to hit breakpoints.

>>144652180
>Payday Weapon Modification: The Game

heh, okay

>>144653321
I mainly use pumps and double barrels with 000 buck

>>144653167
Not really. It doesn't hurt, but the 15% buff only has a meaningful effect on guns that don't need it. The guns that could actually use a buff like the spas and m1014 only get about +8 dam which isn't going to make a difference unless it hits a breakpoint, which IIRC it doesn't. If they had kept it at 35% if would have been immeasurably more worthwhile.

>>144652180
>tfw either all gone and got blocked for too many activations
what was it?

Is it true? Are shotguns not shit again? Is Locomotive still king?

>>144655662
Loco is still king

What does Maniac actually do?

Is it like killing to get a second layer of armor that rapidly depletes or what?

>>144655785
You gain a set number of damage reduction per stacks of maniac. To get full stacks you need to do around 2k damage in a short amount of time, the stacks deplete at a rather slow rate of 20% per a few seconds. The stacks update at a rather laggy pace. Specials are the best place to get the damage, dozers give less stacks. Having full stacks makes you near invincible on DW and gives the entire team a lesser version of your current resistance. Only the highest Maniac stack works at one time so 2 maniacs arent needed.

>>144655785
it's the most useful support deck in the game

>>144656643
The most useful carry and support deck

>>144655662
loco is and always will be the kang

>>144656774
they did fuck up grinder, didn't they? they probably also fixed Ex-President turning you into the invincible man too, though that was just a glitch i'm sure

>>144590905
>>144580535
You're both right. Jacket has the highest swing speed in the Hotline franchise, though his Richard mask doesn't do anything.

>>144657058
Grinder got nerfed a bit, ex-president was fixed but its probably better than grinder at this point.

>>144657204
By fixed do you mean you don't eat all your stored health at once and only take what you need?

>>144657550
By fixed I mean the beta bug where you had 100% armor recharge

>>144657550
no, for a little while about a month ago the armor refresh time had no cap so if you hurt enough people fast enough you would basically have infinite armor, the only thing that could hurt you was sniper shots and cloaker kicks

dlc ;)

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>>144659898

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>JOAT means you can now take ECM's and an armor bag
>this means that plan B is finally viable as plan B
>rather than "shit shit restart"
>mfw

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>>144660249
>stealth

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>>144660249
>need to upgrade Sentry tree to get it to work

>>144660249
Why not take bodybags to avoid plan B?

>>144660497
>implying sentries aren't the new staple skill

>>144660249
>this means that plan B is finally viable as plan B
Where the fuck do you mongs keep coming from? A bow/GL40 concealment build using silenced pistol/judge as main has been a viable stealth-turned-loud build for nearly a year.

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>>144660497
>mfw deploying new sentries
and not a single cop entered the map that day

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>>144660789
>A bow

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sokolpost

>>144660789
fucking kys

>>144663013
>King of shitters who cant even handle a stealth build in loud in the age of 80 damage pistols, grinder and enforcer
>Thinks hes qualified to judge what weapons are good
Might as well end your life, your parents already tell people you died anyway.

What's a half decent non-garbage Assault rifle to run in automatic mode for the purposes of the oppressor skills

In case I want something a mite more accurate than my LMG. I've been looking at the Gewehr since it has 80 or so damage but I'm not too sure if it's worth it.

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>>144666990
>A bow

>get a new pc
>hear that payday 2 dropped microtransactions
>decide to reinstall it to give it a try
>lost all my progress because overkill has the game store your account info on the pc and not on a server

well fuck me right in the ass

is it worth grinding back up? because i just lost motivation to play this shit again

>>144668969
>lost all my progress because overkill has the game store your account info on the pc and not on a server
That's wrong though.

You probably just deleted your save file in some faggoty tantrum and then Steam copied the deletion action to the cloud store.

>>144668969
They didn't drop microtransactions. And no it's not worth playing this game anymore.

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>>144668969
>reinstalling
>ever

>>144669419
actually, i wiped my old pc's hard drive before selling it to someone

there was no time that i deleted my save file and then logged onto steam to have it update it in the cloud

>>144667341
If you like 80 damage, the falcon would be more suited to you. The G3 is for using with DMR kit installed and for nothing else, since the Falcon outperforms it in every other regard. The downside it half the good mods are locked behind tedious cheevos, but there's always SAM if you cant be bothered.

>>144668969
Exp rates are stupidly high now.

You can probably easily grind while doing random heists.

Worst case, you cycle through some Rats and HB but when every heist gives millions of exp each, the grind to V-100 isn't that bad.

>>144669934
Got all of the achievements so that won't be an issue. I'll take a look at it. Just looking for something with half decent damage and a magazine size worth auto-firing.

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Miss me yet /pdg/?

>>144671339
fuck no

>>144674232
>goldfart leaves
>almir makes things even worse
I haven't played the game in months and I'm afraid to see how bad its gotten

>>144674313
Goldfarb planted the seeds of jewery and then left his garden untended. What should've been nice little shekel shrubs turned into this horrid sprawling oy vey overgrowth. The only way to cure it now is to tear it out by the roots and burn it with napalm.

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what's the meta now? haven't played since the safe mission
heard deagles were nerfed to oblivion

>>144671339
for the love of god someone get this man a haircut

>>144671339
Just your snark and you blocking me from the twitters...

Tell me more about your daughter's favorite pokemans.

>>144671339
>tfw will never have a one-sided debate about rape culture with goldfarb again.

>>144653167

Yes, it lets guns like the AA12 reach 71 damage, which results in 120 with overkill active (which it always is) letting you 1-shot greys.

>>144675582

Shotguns are god-tier, and you hardly even need to aim with them. A shotty with flechettes and far away ace will kill snipers on almost any map and absolutely devastate hordes of cops at once.

>>144674313
>implying goldtard could fare any better

tier 7 skills lmfao

>join freinds game
>someone I blocked is in there

HELP

How is the game now? I just played a lot near release until the first or second dlc. Are they really fixing the game or is it just shilling?

>>144682616
Just play it. The game has changed so much since release its impossible to give you an objective answer of whether it is "fixed". Yes, they say microtransactions are gone, Yes it probably IS just shilling. Anything else you'll just have to figure out for yourself.

Is there a dlc unlocker? Im a poor ass bastard with no money.

>>144684043
I prefer saying that microtransactions are allegedly discontinued. The ones that are already there stayed there but there shouldn't be any more.

>>144685012
DLC and skin
>Where?
Google Payday 2 BLT and Unknown cheats separately.
>>144682616
They aren't fixing anything. They're just showing a little more guile in manipulating stupid people than they usually do.

>>144682616
it's better, but still far from it's potential
lots of fun new heists

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Is there any reason to get Fully Loaded besides more grenades if you already have a fully leveled perk deck?

>>144644290
They're all shit

>>144669934
Yeah, Falcon was pretty okay. Slapped an extended mag on it, 80~ish acc/100 stab, and more importantly it looks nice.

Ammo pickups left a bit to be desired, but it was manageable.

So who actually sings This Is Our Time? Certainly doesn't sound like Simon.

Are there any songs by Viklund where he sings other than I Will Give You My All and Flames of Love?

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Is there something coded into the game that prevents one-hit-kill body shots? Because I was using a DMR with just over 170 damage and headshots were one hit kill as normal but greens and heavy blues I shot in the body fell down and got back up and took two bullets to kill.

>>144690630
It was on a Tan?

>>144690723
Nope. I would understand why those would take 2 shots to kill. But I am absolutely certain they were greens and on a couple of occasions heavy blues.

>>144690630
>>144690723
>>144690851
Wait, something just occured to me: Captain Winters showed up. Does he boost cop health?

>>144690630
Was Winters on the map? That's the only reason I can think of.

That or you grabbed the wrong weapon, Greens have 130hp and Heavy Blues have 100.

>>144691208

He gives cops damage resistance the longer he is there, which is why you should kill him quickly, as he himself gets the damage resistance.

>>144691208
Gives them damage resistance after a while

>>144691208
>>144691457
Steadily scaling damage resistance every five seconds he's on the map.

It's the difference between Winters and his Phalanx getting one-shot by a trip mine and requiring 2-3 to kill them.

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>>144691359
>>144691427
>>144691457
>>144691775
Thanks Anon.

What's a good way to kill Winters if I have to do it all by myself because the other 3 team mates are pub shitters who aren't even aware he's on the map?

Haven't played in a while. Should I bother trying to play solo or should I bite the dick and play pubs?

>>144692169
If you've never played a particular heist before, buy the contract for it and do it solo at least once so you yourself don't become a clueless pubshitter.

Otherwise, bite the dick and laugh at pubshitters as they flail around wondering what they need to push F on.

>>144692014
Explosives.

Trip mines, grenade launchers, maybe a rocket launcher if you really fucking hate him but it's really unnecessary.

>>144692014
FREE Community grenades ;)
FREE base game trip mines
FREE base game fire traps

Shock and Awe Aced + Heavy Impact Aced = fuck all shield and everything else

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Heroin bags when?

>ICTV+Bulletproof
>Partners in Crime Aced
>Hostage Taker Aced
>Maniac deck

I'M FUCKIN INVINCIBLE

Ded

>>144692014
bring grenade launcher
fire grenade launcher at him
or throw your grenades

Is there any good payday 2 dlc unlocker?

>>144702667
Yup. In Steam no less. All you've got to do to get the DLC you want is click on it, then click "add to cart"

Hey guys! New player here!

Is this game good?

>>144706169
No. Go away.
>>144705401
Fuck off shill.
>>144702667
see >>144685380

>>144706169
sort of

>>144706338
>spoonfeeding

sm᠎h

hey, guys, i'm new to this game
how dUIFUFI##333ki33;#?3//33;l3k33#_#+__________________________

Jewish heister when?

>>144708323
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk1kX-Tdi1Y

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>>144651118
Asking again, is Engineering Aced meant to disable the ability to re-deploy your sentries? If not, I hope that they fix this shit in a hotfix.

>>144708323
Trashly and Almir already have self inserts.

>>144708323
Who do you think you're working for?

Is it true that Overkill left Starbreeze? Does that mean less fucking money grubbing and better updates? Should I get back into this game? Haven't played since last summer.

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So I see the filthy kike from Overshill is involved with pic related, am I to assume the game is gonna be shit now

>>144716091

I can pick up and redeploy the sentries just fine, idk whats wrong with your game.

I don't get why you can only have 1 silent sentrie though. Or at least the game only gives me 1(I have 4 regular ones if I pick them)

>>144718059
Overkill for all intents and purposes is Starbreeze. They left 505. They're still money grubbing jews, and nothing has gotten better. Go home.
>>144718132
I swear all the projects made by Overkill and the companies associated with them are great concepts made by shit developers.
Except for walking dead because no one needs another one of those.

>>144718132
it's good.

Returning faggot here, is silenced pistols still the meta?

>>144719449
Un-return any time.

>>144719606
Maybe if I can suck your dick

>>144718258
I only see in the crew setup only one silent sentry but ingame its 4

>>144719449
Silent Killer bulids were always shit

>>144718132
It's already shit.
Stillborn game is DOA

>>144718258
I don't see an option to pick them up once they're deployed. I only see the toggle for AP and otherwise.

>>144718132

It's pretty unique for a game and pretty fun. It's got it's issues as well, especially crashes from what i played in the beta. Still, it's a great idea and is much better if you play it with friends.

>>144724028

Deploy your 2nd deployable, then you can pick them back up.

>>144724390
>Overkill employee dick riding a Starbreeze game

I just noticed sentries only drain from one guns ammo pool, my dick is so hard right now.

>1 bullet pickup from an ammo box
>With an LMG
What the fuck did they do to this game?
Also Specials killed by Sentries don't count towards total Specials kills at the end

>>144724481
Is there a reason why that's the case? Seems kinda silly to have to force someone to deploy in order to recover the first sentry.

>>144724743

If i said i didn't like the game, you'd just call me a shill instead.

>>144724390
If the game isn't even fun without friends, why the fuck would I play it with friends? Especially since it requires 5 people to even play a single match.

Ded gaem.

>>144725740
That's the kind of dumbfuck logic I'd expect from Overkill.

Should I care about breakpoints if I'm going for Oppressor?