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> Tomb Kings still not announced
Edition #5

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>you will never live in the Warhammer world
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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I wish I was a Demigryph Knight so I could murder the people here who say the Empire is overpowered
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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general
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>dont know why all this hate against chosen
>they were okay in a short chaos campaign I did
>maybe I need to test them a little bit more
>go custom battle
>select chaos
>1500 gold per unit
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is there a way for me to pick which army/units i can take into battle when i have a stack, or increase the limit for units

ai chaos attacks a 3 stack i have and i can easily fuck them up but the one that gets dragged first and clogs up my army is a bunch of damaged piece of shit units that get crushed by their hell cannon/giant/cavalry spam, then after theyre done raping my recovering army it finally begins letting my other units in (archers and artillery first too usually) 1 at a time with no support which is really fucking cool because by that time theyre already surrounded by cavalry and boss units and in range of the hell cannon fire
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Where is the anon who found CA's easter egg? We want to know what he got
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GORK IZ A GIT, MORK IZ DA BEST

PROVE ME WRONG
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Chaos Daemons confirmed
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>>144367318
FUCK OFF YOU GIT
GORK IS DA BEST
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12th for Harad
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>>144367460
Wow what a ripoff of new vegas

straight up copied those designs
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>>144367127
thank fucking ARE YOU A god
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>tfw purging everything as The Empire
https://youtu.be/QLt0lerdgKs
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>tfw no vamp gf
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>>144367460
Those muhad tribesmen are sexy as hell.
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>>144348808

> CA & GW negotiate for a Warhammer Total War game with expansions and DLC plans decided
> game released with an amazing reception better than either company could have hoped for
> argue over expacs after release

Bull.Shit.
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>>144367127
>you will never be purged for your heresy by pic related
Why even live
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>>144367724
>tfw cutting through the empire pigs with your adoring legions by your side
https://youtu.be/41u_JH4sggE
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>>144367857
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>>144367180
I wish I was a Demigryph knight so I could be mounted by my mount.
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DUDE NERF CHAOS LMAO

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>>144367729
worship slaanesh. All your dreams shall come true
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>>144368163
what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>144368163
chaos needs to be stronger if anything
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First campaign battle with 35+ units

bretty gud
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>>144368239
that's kinky as fuck
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>>144368556
Anything for you my darling
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>>144368428
>paying for all those sheilds

just give them a pointy stick m8
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HELP ME
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>>144368839
don't panic. it's fine.
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>>144368781
>When the AI gangs up on your beaten up army with no pikes or ranged units left
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The anti-infantry trait is probably the best one in the game.

It skews things pretty heavily towards whatever has it.
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Does chaos have no rebellions because they are horde only, or do they still have public order for their hordes?
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>>144368839
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>>144369103
they have no rebellions
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I got you, you little nigger.
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>>144368754
Now Slaanesh is essentially the chaos embodiment of lust and vanity yes? I wonder many dicks have been put in that eye
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Why do units fight so fucking quick in fights and is there a mod to slow down battles yet
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>>144369207
they can take any form they deem perfect. male or female. maybe both but i'm not gay
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>>144369389
>not being better than Korean Starcraft players
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>>144369389
There a built in slowmo button you cuck.

Rome 2 had shitty slogfest mods, they were terrible.
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>>144369389

>Is there a mod for X?
>Let's not use fucking google or the goddamn fucking workshop right below the play button let's go on fucking 4chan to bother people with retarded questions I could have answered much faster myself.
>Yes, that is good
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>>144369389
*die
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Which faction for first Legendary go?
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>>144368839
ELECTOR COUNTS
L U
E M
C M
T O
O N
R
T
C H
O E
U
N
T
S U M M O N T H E
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>>144369704
dorfs are the easiest. and they are canon because you'll be holed up in your karak pissing yoruself
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>>144369689
Comes on twg gets mad at someone asking about the game yeh fuck off back to /v
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>>144369872
nice formatting. where are your meme arrows? did you forget them back on 9gag?
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>>144369872
I don't know, not that other guy, but I feel like you really could've popped open the workshop and looked through two pages at most before finding the slower battles mod
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>>144369672
M2 siege battles is where it's at
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>>144370001
Yeh lets not ask questions and spam
>summon the elector counts some more
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>>144370095
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>>144369843

I just finished a Dwarf long campaign on VH and that took forever. Not really looking to do that again. What about Greenskins? The extra armies from constant WAAAGHs seems like it'd be pretty useful.
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>>144370207
haha just open ya eyes nigga haha just like go into the workshop haha don't be a retard lmao usa ya noggin haha
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>>144370239
A prime example of a trve vnderstanding of strategy
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>>144370249
This look better then warhammer
>how is this possible?
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>>144370249
>implying they would build walls in the first place
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>>144370249

>Stone houses 4 stories tall
>Shitty wooden palisade
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>>144370249
that's not a V formation
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What's the perfect unit size?

I've played on Large and Ultra. Large was okay, Ultra just felt too clumsy and unwieldy. Trying Medium now.
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>>144370336
stick em fast, stick em hard, and most importantly stick em when theys not lookin!
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>>144370612
ultra
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>>144370508
Its a big hug
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>>144367318
>>144367432
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>>144370612
Im playing on medium atm magic works better then on large/ultra
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>>144367729
I want to cuddle with her
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>>144370239
I've actually started pranking the AI with ambush stance in warhammer. Works pretty well. Feels weird because I'm using noble karl franz to do it, would be more natural with the other races.
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>>144371005
>karls not allowed to use strategy
>the first empire mission is ambushing those who would appose lord karl
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Phew 4 down 8 to go.
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>>144370772
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>>144370909
play on small, you can one shot enemy lords with the direct damage spell
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>>144371005

Karl Franz is clearly an understander of strategy, he would know all about ambushes and summoning the elector counts
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S
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>>144371202
your blood carpet actually kinda looks like a heart.
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>CHAOS HAS RISEN AGAIN
>ai shows this by having skraelings enter my province and then run away from me for 20 turns
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>>144371149

The first one is always a generic mission it's not Karl's.
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>>144371281
U
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>>144371338
>implying the first mission doesn't tie in with the main legendary lord
SUMMON
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>>144371410
M
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>tfw still no balance patch

I can't play like this
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>>144371338
Empire's designed for karl

If you play gelt you can't even crush the rebels because they'll see your unit strength and turtle
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>>144371454
This is divide and conquer right?

Does it give combat kingdoms-speed or is everything still stuck in vanilla med 2 molasses?
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>>144371492
Yeah because warfare's all about everyone being balanced
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>>144371492
Im scared we wont get one till July.

How long did it take the first one for Attila again?
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>>144371313
I tried to OC

>>144371581
Yes,kingdoms speed
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>>144371697

I want to be able to bring a spellcaster or a gyrpocopter and have them actually kill things insead of caressing them

Just tested overcast banishment on marauders, 190 damage, this is unacceptable.
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>>144371697
>total war
>anywhere near related to actual warfare

>warhammer fantasy
>actual warfare
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>>144367729
GIVE ME A VAMPIRE GF NOW

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW
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>>144371998
Man I had a Gyrocoptor in the Ambush at Thundering Falls blow up like 100 of my Miners in a bomb.
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>>144367906
women are inferior to men.
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>>144372750
goblins are inferior to orcs what's your point
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>>144367127
the WHFB world is less interesting than reality tobehonest.
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>>144372902

I bet you worship Gork you git
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>>144372913
Seconded
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>>144372750
ikr
the only reason to keep them around is so we can kiss their feet
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>>144372902
that the only thing women can contribute to the war effort is breeding real soldaten and assembling war maschinen and munition
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>>144369389
they're are multiple.
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KILL IT WITH FIRE

Man that battle was such a clusterfuck
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>>144372913

Can I go live among amazons in reality?
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>>144372913

I'd love to live in your reality my dude


I'd rather get raped and killed by daemons than work my 9-5 and live my gf-less existence another week.
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Hello Umbar
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>>144372913
>>144373030
Guys I'm worried. All this salt in the /his/fags systems has got to be wrecking havoc on their blood pressure. What are we gonna do?
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>>144373134
Soon, we're moving towards a more matriarchal society.
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>>144373134
Yes, but don't go too far deep into the amazon or you'll get eaten
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>>144373216

Not falseflag for starters.
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>>144373198
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>>144373134
if you cant even get a human female to mate with you what makes you think an amazon would?
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>>144373196
There's nothing stopping you from joining a Christian militia and get your corpse desecrated by ISIS.
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>>144373024
gorks superior and i'll fight ya if ya think different
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>>144373216
The two people you replied to weren't salty in the slightest, Warhammer is a decent game we all know it, stop trying to defend it by claiming that anyone who would prefer a historical game is a salty '/his/fag.'
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>>144373362
t. salty hisfag

Here's 4 words that destroy your retarded post.

RATS. IN. GIANT. WHEEL.
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>>144373396
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>>144373608
> trying to stir up shit outa nothing
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>>144373608
>>144373216
weak
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>>144373753
>paradox shill can't take his boring shit histfag setting and has to shit on warhammer
>get BTFO
>"y-you're stirring shit"

yeah ok hombre
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can vampires feel love?

they are still human after all, theres no reason why they wouldn't be able to feel compassion for the living
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>>144373737
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>>144373872
i like warhammer more than his, but it's undeniable you're being a fag
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>>144373551
>history is better than fantasy
>I agree!
>we're not salty!!
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>>144373872
Not the guy you replied to but you did not BTFO out of anyone.
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>>144373737
>>144373927
Why are you still playing this stupid shit?

>>>/vr/
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>>144373917
vlad and isabelle did, so i'd say yes
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>>144373608
I like fantasy and all but the warhammer world is pretty shit
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>>144374003
This is Total War general, I'll take 10 year old TOTAL WAR screenshots and gameplay posting over your whining any day.

>>144373972
>People have conflicting opinions.
Well gee! Who would have guessed?
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>>144373971
>i don't like the way you word your post despite being 100% in the right

whatever

>>144373991
histfags STILL haven't proven me wrong. warhammer is a better setting.
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>>144374102
>literally my moms map of earth
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>>144373927
>/twg/ is still taking the b8 and replying to false flaggers
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>>144373917
Maybe, after X amount of time of being vampires and raising undead servants/armies they would probably regard most humans as a means to an end rather than something to emotionally relate with.
>said by someone who doesn't know the lore
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Total War: Witcher when?
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>>144374102
It's based off a map of the real world but actually inhabited by more than one race. even by your logic histfag settings is worse.
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>>144374312
when the witcher setting gets interesting
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>>144374363
Christ, quit your bitching. Not everyone feels the same way about everything, anon. You stated your opinion, no one gave a shit. If you love Warhammer so much why don't you shut the fuck up and get to playing the game?
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>>144374363
>what are black people
we literally have orcs irl
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>>144374413
ohhhhh nice
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>>144374363
nigger every word you speak has a history to it
IRL lore is truly the deepest of all
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>>144374478
>histfag settings are more interesting than Warhammer, I don't have to prove it and you're not allowed to disagree with me
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Which color of spearmen are the best in Attila?
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>>144374248
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>>144374762
purple
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>>144373608
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>>144374601
Warhammer is written with the very same words. Therefore Warhammer has the it's own history in addition to the history behind every word that composes it's lore.
Warhammer: 1
/his/fags: BTFO
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>>144374762
GREEN IZ BEST
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>>144374808
A concept that never existed

..except in fantasy.
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>>144374775
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>>144374824
what date did the Normans invade in the WH world to give you tidbits of the language they use though?
what's the lore behind WH linguistics
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>>144374824
why are you trying to be such a fedora-clad warrior?

it's literally nothing but subjective.

i'm still a warhammer fag
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>>144374926
>i don't know what I'm talking about

Turns out it's fucking retarded so nobody followed up on it.
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>>144374926
Prototypes were made.
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>>144375074
>>144375097
That was my first post in the discussion
I don't know shit about Warhammer lore
you took my bait
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>>144375279
ebin
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>>144375120
>>144375243
So what you're saying is that the real version of a war wheel is shitty and lame compared to fantasy.
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ARE YOU A GOD?
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>been chasing around the same army for 10 turns as it sacks all my settlements and destroys all of my buildings as its perpetually 1 pixel outside of my move distance

jesus fucking christ fuck this god damn AI I am so fucking mad GOD DAMMIT
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>>144375345
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>>144375345
What he's saying is that your fantasy is proven to be shitty and lame should it existed
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>>144375345
>So what you're saying is that the real version of a religion is shitty and lame compared to fantasy.
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Do you think CA is going to get sieges right in Total War Tercio?
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Turn 100

Am I ready for big bird?
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>>144375441
But if it existed, it wouldn't be fantasy. Checkmate.

>>144375442
I don't know who that is, but she looks more interesting than an actual clergyman.
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>>144375561
Of course not
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>>144375561
CA got sieges right in Attila
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>>144375561
CA is going to make sieges auto-resolve only.

>10/10, sieges were always shit, this was a good idea
>latest total war breaks all sales records yet again
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>>144375675
>I don't know who that is
It's a priest boss of a monastery dungeon in WoW. The name is in the filename.
It's the only magical priest image I had handy
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>>144375596
>allowing VC to keep 2 regions

Mannfred Man is going to stab you in the back right when you are about to win
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>>144375947
>allowing

Just finishing him off now
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>tfw viking port assault in the snow
>tfw dem longships
>tfw dat apocalyptic-ass music
>tfw FEARLESS WARRIORS
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>>144375561
I think for sieges, instead of the old "wait them out" or "have an all out battle" system, the player should be able to choose to assault different parts of the city while besieging.

First you have to capture the gate/walls
Then you can choose to assault parts of the city, such as the city square (greatly weakens enemy morale and overall resistance), the residential quarter (weakens enemy morale and nets a bit of loot), the market district (gains you the most loot), after taking one of the previous 3, you can attack the citadel or whatever you want to call the enemy headquarters, which wins the siege and gives you control of the settlement.

So for sieges you can basically wait them out, assault all 3 locations in one turn, or assault one location per turn and assault the rest later.
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>>144375675
>land on beach armed with nothing but the Bible and faith in G-D
>dodging bullets and artillery just to give dying soldiers their final prayers
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You guys think Skaven will be more prone to routing?
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>put all my armies in ambush stance to try to draw the chaos hordes closer before I attack
>The master of schemes, all seeing eye of Tzeentch just walks in to it like a retard
WAS GETTING CAUGHT PART OF YOUR PLAN?
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>>144376480
Probably.

I'd like to see them having mid range units with 'expendable', so you can fling hordes at the enemy and it doesn't matter if they do run
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>>144376480

Yes, they'll probably get bonuses to leadership if they outnumber the enemy though.

Which they will just about every time, they're more of a horde army than O&G
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>>144376479
>march at the head of the army with nothing but your blessed hammer, still wet with the blood of those that oppose the righteousness of man
>smashing heretics, monsters, and daemons for the glory of mankind just to inspire the dying soldiers to fight harder against the encroaching darkness
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>>144376520
Of coursh! Archeon refused our offer in favor of Khorne's. We had to find out what he told you.
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Why is Warhammer a better game than Attila again?
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>>144376770
It's not yet
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>>144376770
Which faction has your favorite color?
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Has there been any mention as to why there wasn't an elf faction at release?
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Do you think that CA is aware that the new defense towers are the worst sieges yet? Why give us all this cool artillery if we can't put them on walls?

I hope it was something they did as a temporary fix and that one of the next WH games fixes them good
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>>144376770

It's a better base game, that's for damn sure. Once all the extra content is out, it'll blow Attila out of the water.
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>>144376520
That's actually a legit point. It should be immune to ambushes.

>>144376951
Same reason there aren't any of the other species in the setting yet. They only had the time and money to do so much by launch.
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>>144376928
I think faction variety is the only thing Warhammer has on Attila. And that certain factions can only conquer certain areas ended up being an interesting mechanic and didn't detract from the game.

>>144376979
I wasn't around for attila at release
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>>144374941
>LOTR:TW never
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>>144376960
How are they gonna move them up? Teleport?
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>Skaeling spends all fucking chaos evasion running away
>turn out to have fuck all in their army because of attrition
Chaos and co running away from the player is stupid

The game calls it the doom tide but it was half an hour of me chasing them. I shouldn't have to play on very hard or legendary just to see a functional chaos
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>>144377074
the lotr fad is over at this point desu. it was a good run
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>>144377052
>Same reason there aren't any of the other species in the setting yet. They only had the time and money to do so much by launch.

Oh well. It's not a big deal, since there IS going to be DLC with additional factions released somewhere down the line. And it's kind of exciting waiting to find out which factions will be added first.
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Poor little human boy
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Tanks have such a big range that you can't even see what they're shooting at most of the time
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>>144375947
>Mannfred Man is going to stab you in the back right when you are about to win

Don't even joke about that
>>
what
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>>144373917
Sure, both Vlad and like the Lahmians do so that's the two major bloodlines down
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>>144377117
Ramps
Wench&Pulley
Carrying it up in pieces and assembling it atop the walls

Wow that was hard
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>>144377117
Why not? The normal troops do.
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>>144374762
I like the vandals for their blue trousers
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>>144377405
Oh the WAAAAGH killed them
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which TW has the best Middle Earth mod?

i own: med II, Rome I+II, SHOGUN 2, and Wahamma

most recent is best but if the Med II one is just the best I guess i'll.. try it. i could not have been less enthusiastic about med II so i pray there's better
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>>144377589
med II is the only one there with a middle earth mod
and its breddy fucking good
start with Dol Amroth
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>>144376770
I like both but Attila has a hella of a lot of campaign features that are just busywork

Double checking how much food I need isn't a challenge and it certainly isn't fun
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Am I crazy or did I hear CA say that they're gonna have a historical tw and a warhammer tw in development at the same time?
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>>144377414
>animating all of that

Who's gonna pay for all of that? You? Artillery don't even have unique loading anims and you want special assembly, disassembly and lifting anims for every gun? Are you autistic?
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>>144377653
>start with Dol Amroth
No,play dwarves and kill elves
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>>144377705
No, but you are
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>>144377664
The B team's working on it. CA's main focus will be warbammer of course.
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>>144377705
>Are you autistic?

Oh, so you're retarded. The battle starts with the artillery on the walls, or you're able to deploy it up there and not move it after the deployment phase ends. Similar to previous games

No special animations required
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>>144376769
WELL GREAT, YOU GOT YOURSELF CAUGHT, NOW WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP OF YOUR MASTER PLAN?
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hahahHAHAH

HELP ME
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>didn't think chaos hellfire artillery or whatever it's called was that big a deal
>fighting Archaeons army with my zombie vanguard chewing on them while my grave guards quietly move into formation behind them
>hellfire canons are now too close to my fodder so they start shooting at my grave guards (we're talking like 5 cannons, I'm not fucking with you)
>one shot splashes a troop of guards and easily wipes out at least 15-20 of them

oh my fuck
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>>144377941
Crashing your game.

With no auto-save!
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>>144377971
ambush stance and you'll get them one at a time
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>>144377925
You can't put artillery up walls in previous games you stupid fuck.
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>>144378042
I'm not that guy, but going into ambush stance probably would have helped me out during my VH Chaos campaign.
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>>144378042
i've already taken out 6 stacks. these niggas ain't running away. karls on suicide watch, his army is always dead, and all the reinforcements i brought up are just getting mowed down.

so this is the power of legendary
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>>144378042
>cheesing

what's even the point of playing then?
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>>144378190
> using mechanics
nigga its legendary the game aint even playin fair
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>>144378151
chaos cant actually ambush i believe
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>Confident
Dis git
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>>144378160
I used to think that TWWH was legitimately harder than the other titles but it turns out the AI just get more unfair advantages on legendary.
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Why is the AI producing units it doesn't have the necessary structures for in a shorter period of time than it would take to recruit them?
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>>144376770
It runs 3 times as better for starters.
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>>144378306
>the Orc-Bane

he has every right to be, prepare to be memed on.
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>>144378068
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What's the most reddit army in the game?
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>>144378419
Building upgrade. You think I never played the abortion that was Rome 2?
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>>144378419
not the guy you're arguing with but pretty sure castle walls have emplacements in r2
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>>144378372
>It runs 3 times better for starters.

putting 10k units on the screen at max graphics and not dropping below 60 frames

and only 2-3 crashed in 50 hours of play
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>>144378419
that isn't a unit though

>those unit cards
fucking give me my money back you jews
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>>144378447
Dwarfs
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>>144378414
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>>144378559
*dwarves
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anyone have that Attila roll pic? I can't decide what to play
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>>144378587
>>144378559
>>144378447

mispelled empire
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>>144378587
*dwarfens*

davi
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>>144378559
Speaking of, why are all their lords so shit?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P53d1c8SX_8

I AM HERE MORTAL
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>>144378579
that's a big orc
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>>144378521
>You think I never played the abortion that was Rome 2?

I didn't, that's just what I googled. But in Attila you could deploy the garrison artillery on the walls where you wanted, which is what I was talking about. I assumed R2 was the same.

Regardless, I don't see why they couldn't do something similar with your artillery units in warhammer
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>>144378625
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>>144378718
fer yu

did'n even survive one swing o da choppa
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>>144378730
can you take those units off the wall and move them around as well?
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>>144378743
oh shit, I forgot about the slavic cfactions. They worth the dough?

rollan
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>>144378682
i wish they had some kind of creative mount

like a mech tank or ride on a gyro

speed .01, of course
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>>144378524
I can do that in TWW, but in Rome 2 and Attila the animations start to die once a couple thousand units start doing the combat dance.
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>>144378842
Play on something other than easy and we'll see what happens

t. Valamir the Orc-Bane
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>>144378963
git
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Are there any other qts other than the vamps that they could add as a hero or lord?
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The memes are too real on Legendary. I'm starting over.
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>>144378868
Do they get anything in tabletop?
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>>144378931
>le matched combat meme

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?695550-Matched-Combat-Be-Gone!-Atilla-V-1-0-July-28th-2015
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>>144379086
Bretonian maidens are already in the game.
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>>144379086
Not sure. there might be some version of >>144367906 that existed in whatever timeframe this is though.
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I'm playing my first Very Hard campaign as Dwarfs. Any tips on how to build Thorgrim? Probably more towards army buffs, right?

I'm not a big fan of him as a combat unit because of how silly he looks on his little chair.
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>>144379135
lmao wtf
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>>144379143
horses, bears, gyros

bears would be cool but i dont know if that home-made shit or what but ive seen minis with it
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>>144379086
mah'diqq
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>>144379389
huh, wonder why CA left em wanting

>inb4 dlc
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>>144379135
Legendary is just pure artifical difficulty. I don't mind the buff to AI troops so much as the arbitrary gimping of your own.
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>>144379509
>horse armor 2:electric boogaloo
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>>144379380

I tried charging him but half my army was routing before we even got close and I can't deal with the permanent -8 Public Order from Legendary while trying to do an early blitz.

>>144379526

I just think that Greenskins aren't the right faction for it because of the Public Order problem mentioned above. You can't really station troops in cities to take care of it because then they start killing each other. I just want the achievement and to beat one TW campaign on Legendary for my own satisfaction.
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So, now that the dust has settled, the official ranking of Warscape TWs is as follows:

Shogun 2
Warhammer
Napoleon
Attila
Rome 2
Empire
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>>144379664
IIRC your troops actually get decreased stats on legendary.
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>>144379775
Rome 2 has to be at least 3 lower
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>>144378868
>>144379389
The only mount that the lords don't have access to from the table top is the imperial dragon for Karl Franz. That was because Deathclaw is more iconic. Bear was only for one lord in the Kislev army book in white dwarf.
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>>144379526
This, i tried legendary and it felt like it was about overcoming a challenge rather than playing the game under its natural rules.

When you are playing a battle and the enemy wont break despite being flanked from all sides, the fun is gone. Trying to win through normal means is losing proposition so it becomes something else.
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>>144379664
Public order doesnt even matter, the rebel army that spawns is only like 5-10 units. I actually raid my own provinces to level up my generals.
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>>144379775
>attila higher than rome2
>napoopan
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>>144379664
Do a VC or Dawi run or any faction that can turtle well.

I just finished my legendary VC campaign and it only felt hard in the beginning.
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>>144379775
>warhammer not first

shit list
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>>144379903
git gud
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>>144379775
Real ranking from someone that isn't a fucking weeb

>Attila
>Warhammer
>Rome 2
>Napoleon
>FOTS
>Shogun 2
>Empire
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>>144379937
Attila is literally improved Rome II

>>144379954
shills go
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>>144379931

I can't deal with the rebels while they're small while also trying to fight off 4 different factions that hate me just because I'm green.
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>>144379775
>tfw cant pick a favorite cause they were all crap or dull for one reason or another

I think Attila would be top if I had played it without having gone through the others.
And Warhammer would be top if CA didnt streamline it so much.
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>>144380098

wew
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>>144380098
>Rome Poo
>better than Nappy
>Nappy
>better than FoTS or vanilla S2
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>>144379086

Tsar of Kislev
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>>144380086
Theres no getting gud when the AI cheats so hard.
Rather play multiplayer where the challenge actually comes from superior tactics and broken units + spells
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>Rome 2 stopped working again
Jesus christ this game has been out for 100 Epochs and it STILL doesn't work
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How 2 address Dwarves as Vampire Counts?

I feel like if I go full REMOVE on my neighbors, orcs will just resettle the province and I'll have the Greenskins confederating all over my asshole while I'm knee-deep in the Empire.

On the other hand, if the Dwarves triumph in the Badlands, they'll confederate and I'll have another implacable enemy.
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What mods are you guys using?
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>>144379360
HELP ME PLEASE
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sorry, folks

Rome I, Shogun 2, and Warhammer were the only ones worth note for people who dont suck CA's dick


>just wait 8-12 months! it will be good then!
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>>144380550
Download more ram
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>>144379509
>>144379389
They left them out because Dwarfs haven't had access to mounts for at least three editions in my memory, don't know if they had them before that
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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KILL VAMPIRE COUNT AS GREENSKINS?

eVEN gRIMGOR rOUTS

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

MY GIANT SPIDER RAN SPIDERS DON'T EVEN FEEL FEAR WHAT THE FUCK
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>>144380617
I always go for the middle tree on generals. The dwarves have a stamina buff which is neat.
>>
Will we talk about Halo Wars 2 when it's released?
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>>144380643

I thought people loved Medieval II around here.
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>>144380587

Keep dwarves happy, wait for their eventual genocide at the hands of orcs, then make orcs happy
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>>144380678
They have a "mount" but this is it. Not really a mount and they probably thought leaving thorgrim with his throne would make him more unique.
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>>144380760
>around here.

they also praise atilla
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>>144380701

TOO SPOOKY LADZ
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>>144380592
Conquer anywhere.
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>>144380785
>around here
where exactly YOU from, boy?
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>>144380701

How the fuck are you struggling against the VC, its one of the armies Orcs excel against

>>144380858
Thats because thats not Thorgrim m8, thats the high king before Thorgrim who wasnt a lazy piece of shit and actually went into battle standing
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>>144380587
I usually go full hitler and gas every green skin I see.
Murder every captive. Raid, sack and raze their towns. Do all this and the dwarves will agree to a non-aggression pact and they never brake those unless you piss them off.
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>>144380890
>>144380785

>>144380890


greentext went to correct post, but somehow replies to wrong post

too spooky for me
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>>144380957

teach me sensei. they just stick a bunch of cairn wraths behind/as a tarpit and my boyz get 2 spooked and rout
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>>144380957
No, that is just a vanilla lord who took a shield "mount." I was trying to say that they didn't give generic lords this because they wanted thorgrim to feel more unique riding the throne.
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>>144381161
By the time you're fighting VC, your line should be almost all if not all black orcs

Use doom divers to snipe their lord, if you have Azhag snipe him with spirit leech, and if grimgor/mounted lord go 1v1 his ass

Meanwhile your black orcs will be cleaving through their numbers easy, have a big un or two to fight off bigger guys
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Managed to win my first Warhammer campaign. Got long and short victory at the same time.
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holy shit I'm so annoyed
I'm sitting on 7 provinces with the VC annihilated and the norscan fucks just keep sending one or more full stack of veterans every turn to raze my shit
AI buffs are fucking retarded.
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>>144380729
Yeah, I figured that's the way to go for Thorgrim. I personally like speccing lords such as Grimgor and Franz for combat because they're insane at high levels, but Thorgrim is a meme in combat, and I like things like the ammo buff for Quarrelers.
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>>144381281

oh, i'm talking about non-campaign multiplayer battles

and even black orcs run away from a lineup of scary scythe wielding ghosts
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>>144381690
Oh, just go fuck them up with some boars, those fuckers literally die with a whiff
>>
>build the Great temple of Ulric in Middenland with a temple of sigmar

Assassin witch hunters, assassin witch hunters everywhere.
>>
>>144379775
What is it with people in this general and making lists and claiming they're official?
>>
>>144382090
It's not exclusive to this general.
>>
RIP Muhammad Ali
>>
>>144382090
>in this general and making lists and claiming they're official
>this general
Is this your first day on 4chan?
>>
>>144382329
cAN SOMEONE post the official list of units in the game? Like the tier ranking
>>
This is the 4th time Brettonia gets raped by Estalia in my games.

Is this happening to you guys too?
>>
>>144382275
>no boxing game with boxing LLs
>no Mike Tyson as grimgor
>>
>>144382409

Here's the official tier list on units and their cost effectiveness.

God tier units:

Greatswords
Black orcs
Demigryph knights (Halberds)
Quarrelers
Fell bats
Grudge throwers

High tier units:

Demigryph knights
Rock lobba
Halberdiers
Handgunners
Outriders (GL)
Longbeards
Goblin wolf riders
Savage boyz
Chaos warhounds/dire wolves
Crypt horrors
Miners (BC)
Steam tank
Spearmen

Mediocre units:

Swordsmen
Crossbowmen
Empire knights
Goblin wolf archers
Goblin spider riders
Goblin spider rider archers
Crossbowmen
Dwarf warriors
Ironbreakers
Doomdiver
Zombies
Skeleton spearmen
Grave guard
Cairn wraiths
Orc boyz
Big uns
Savage big uns
Thunderers
Black knights
Forsaken
Chaos marauders (great weapons)
Dragon ogres
Longbeards (GW)
Goblins
Orc arrer boyz
Arachnarok spider
Boar boyz big uns
Hellcannon
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>>144382409
Sure buddy

>my favorite units
>shit
>your favorite units
>>
>>144382512
>not realizing Grimgor is already Mike Tyson
>>
>>144382527

Low tier units:

Reiksguard
Pistoliers
Outriders
Spearmen (shields)
Great cannon
Mortar
Irondrakes (both)
Slayers
Hammerers
Miners
Cannon
Trolls
Chaos trolls
Night goblins (any form)
Goblin archers
Savage orc arrer boyz
Giant
Chaos Giant
Orc boar boyz (both)
Savage boar big uns
Hexwraiths
Black knights (lances)
Skeleton warriors
Grave guard (GW)
Crypt ghouls
Terrorgheist
Varghulf
Chaos marauders
Chaos warriors
Chaos warriors(GW)
Chosen (GW)
Chaos spawn
Chaos trolls (armoured)
Chaos warhounds (poison)
Dragon ogre shaggoth
Chaos knights
Marauder horsemen (both)

Oh shit what the fuck are you doing tier:

Luminark of Hysh
Helblaster Volley Gun
Helstorm Rocket Battery
Flame cannon
Organ gun
Gyrocopters (all shapes)
Goblin wolf chariot
Orc boar chariot
Vargheists
Crypt ghouls
Chosen
Chosen (halberds)
Chaos warriors (Halberds)
Chaos knights (lances)
Chaos chariot
Gorebeast Chariot
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>>144382409
ETERNAL TOPPEST TIER:
Gatling Guns
Armstrong Gun

TOP TIER:
Steam Tenks
Demigryph Knights (all flavours)

Good Tier:
Greatswords

Mid Tier:
Every other unit from every other race that isn't mentioned

Shit Tier:
All monsters except Chaos Giants
Hexwraiths
Cairn Wraiths
Chosen
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>>144382527
Jesus fucking christ put this in an image or something instead of shitting up the thread with this fucking retarded list
>>
>>144382635

God tier lords and heroes:

Karl Franz (Deathclaw)
Azhag (skullmumcha)
Mannfred (Hellsteed, Zombie dragon)
Witch hunter


High tier lords and heroes:

Chaos sorcerer lord (death, Manticore)
Runesmith
Empire captain/paladin (barded warhorse/pegasus)
Balthasar Gelt (Imperial pegasus)
Chaos sorcerer lord (metal,Manticore)
Night goblin shaman
Vampire
Wight king (barded skeletal steed)
Louen (Beaquis)
Lord (Bretonnia, Hippogryph)

Mediocre tier lords and heroes

Lord (Imperial gryphon)
Warrior priest
Light wizard
Dwarf lord
Exalted hero (barded chaos steed)
Orc shaman
Warboss (Warboar)
Chaos sorcerer (metal, manticore)
Chaos sorcerer (Death, Metal, Chaos steed)
Kholek suneater

Low tier lords and heroes

Bright wizard
Thane
Ungrim Ironfist
Thorgrim grudgebearer
Celestial wizard
Damsel
Grimgor Ironhide
Goblin big boss (Giant spider)
Vampire lord


Oh shit what the fuck are you doing tier (lords and heroes edition):

Prince sigvald the magnificent
Archaon the everchosen
Master engineer
Chaos sorcerer lord (fire)
Goblin great shaman
Chaos sorcerer (Fire)
Banshee
Necromancer
Master necromancer
Heinrich Kemmler
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I think Demigryphs are cute.
They look like big corgis with parrot faces.
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Am I doing it right by building as many money buildings as possible in my dorf towns?
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>>144382876
They have a cat's body though.
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>>144382876
>tfw you will never have a pet Demigryph

It just isn't fair.
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>>144382892
You should do that as every faction + walls
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>>144382967
Yes, but their legs are stubby and the way they bounce run reminds me of corgis.
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>>144382498

No. They sat doing nothing until the very end when they joined crusade on Chaos.

>>144380643

The good total wars (excluding Shogun 1 and medieval 1): Rome 1, Medieval 2, Napoopan, Shogun 2, FOTS, Warham, Attila.

And in all honesty Rome 1 on release was pretty dogshit compared to Medieval 2.

Worst were Rise of the Samurai in terms of units, Empire Total war in terms of bugs, Rome 2 in terms of just about everything besides setting/the units/appearance of units.
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> The most useless end-game unit

What the fuck does Evocation of Death actually do? Is it broken or just useless?
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loving it
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>>144383013


>you'll never be a young Karl, flying between the towers and rooftops of Altdorf as you fly Deathclaw for the first time
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>>144383013
I'd rather have a pet Royal Wolf.
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>Traits Gained: Likes Chaos
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>>144383127
medieval 2 is dogshit on release and many core issues weren't even dealt with with patches.
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>>144383154
GREENED
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Official tier list of anonymous posters in this thread:

Top tier:
Anonymous 23
Anonymous 45
Anonymous 7
Anonymous 5
Anonymous 26
Anonymous 38
Anonymous 21
Anonymous 13
Anonymous 4

Okay tier:
Anonymous 31
Anonymous 61

Shit tier:
Anonymous 17
Anonymous 65
Anonymous 9
Anonymous 16
Anonymous 24

Kill yourself tier:
Everyone else
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>>144383281
how do orcs teleport around my troops and pillage my town.......... OOOOOOOOOOOOOOORCS
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>>144379086
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>>144383308

>tfw you're god tier

Suck my dick plebs
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>>144383348
*teleports behind your armies*
*sacks town*
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>>144383308
>Anonymous 65
There are only 64 posters in this thread dummy
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>>144383348
It's simple, your men are busy fucking around in boats
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>>144383364

fucking virgins
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POOPY BUTTHOLE
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>>144383348

>he doesn't know about the underway
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>>144383487
We await the arrival of the chosen shitposter
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>>144383487
How about now?
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>>144383364
UNGH
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>>144383439
nuffin personul ye git

>>144383529
tfw digging through the water
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>>144383568
lmao you're shit tier
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>>144382527
>>144382635
Shit tier list kill yourself
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>>144383523
That's Mr. Poopy Butthole to you
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Should I try to hold Castle Drakenhof as the Empire or should I just raze it?
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>>144383591
>implying ancient dwarven underground highways would be flooded with water
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>>144383704
Just purify it, why wouldnt you
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>>144383704
Hold it
Gold mine
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>>144383704
answer should be clear
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>>144383704
Sylvania is in a pretty good position because it's not immediately on the border with anyone except for Dwarves, who should be your best buddies so they can hold off Greenskins and shit for you. Plus it's a literal goldmine
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>>144383263
man fuck this guy
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>>144383845

>likes chaos
>likes greenskins
>soon to be a vampire cuck lover
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>>144383845
Basically traitor, purge him

Really though send him alone into a huge stack of greenskins or chaos and let the battle run to his death.
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>>144383845
the sjws are even in my game waaAAGGH
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>>144383979
calm down there mannfred
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So I'm doing a campaign as dwarfs and while I can hold the line dealing with monsters, black orks, and cav is a nightmare. I'm really not liking the dwarf warriors, are the great weapons any better or do I have to wait to get some really good front line infantry? And are grudge throwers worth keeping or should I switch to cannons?
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YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE OAKLEY

https://i.gyazo.com/7ba5a82c3111d20b8c7408727e30d71f.png
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>>144384048

>dwarf warriors

Where are your ironbreakers and hammerer's anon?
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>>144384048
great weapons will do way better against the heavily armoured orcs, in melee. grudge throwers are also quit a bit better than cannons
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>>144383704
purge, and then rebuild from the ashes
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>>144384109
>;)
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Is the game any good? Don't have any friends who own it and I'm too distrustful of most reviewers.
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>>144384138
I can't afford them yet because my dwarven allies are useless fucktards that are marching their armies back and forth between settlements for no reason, and then declaring war on vampires and not building anything to stop the corruption spread.
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>>144384109
>the starcraft crwod

what the fuck the first rome was the best one and it's battles were only 5 minutes each
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>>144384209
Its alright. A bit overrated but way better than Rome 2 at launch.
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>>144383308
>tfw shit teir
Fuck you anon
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>>144384251

Tier 1 dwarf infantry is pretty trash except against other tier 1 infantry like orc boyz or gobbo spears. Get yourself some Longbeard/ longbeard great weapons until you can get the ironbreakers/ hammer's
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>>144384209
Its fucking awful we all hate it

Fucking CA better dump this shit quick and get back to making historical games
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>>144382527
>Ironbreaker
>Mediocre
Got to pay big to play big f'am.
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>>144384209
It is the best total war since rome 1 and med 2.
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>Playing dwarves.
>Greenskins are running rampart, so fortify the Silver Road and start expanding north instead to build up my forces before going south.
>Capture Mount Gunbad and repopulate Grom peak after Zhulbar got fucking rekt by vampires.
>Oh hey, I can confederate Karak Kadrim.
>Sure, let's do i-
>Suddenly my lands reach up all the way to Norsca.

Ayyyyyy mah dawi.
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>>144384109
>surprised a large part of the Total War community is casual as fuck
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>>144384547
>Shogun 2 wasn't as good as med 2

Wooow.
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The AI doesn't actually ever take your army composition into consideration at all when building their own armies, do they?
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>>144384838
Fuck off weeb
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>>144384838
>wanting to play china spearmen vs china spearmen

its literally a facebook game
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>>144384940
never ever
campaign AI is retarded and needs its bonuses to keep alive
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>>144384940
AI army comp is broken, get the mod that makes them favor melee more
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>>144384430
Honestly Warhammer is such shit anyways. Why the fuck did CA waste their time with this shitty dead IP?
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>>144385164
Because it's apparently sold better then any other total war game so far?
>this isn't bait
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>>144385164
Because it sells better and is fun
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>>144385232
>>144385280
Thanks for the (you)s.You have fed my addiction
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>>144385164

>Best LL still not announced
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>>144385638
>Squig riders when?
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The units in the game guys.. cringe.

Orcs
black orcs
savage orcs
orc big uns
black orcs

FIVE VARIANTS OF ONE UNIT MODEL

Boar boys
boar boy big unz
boar boy savage big unz

CRINGE, 3 VARIANTS ON ONE MODEL

Dwarves- whole race variant on one model

"Warhammer is diverse"

My ass it is diverse
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>>144385887
whoa bro post that shit on r/cringe
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>>144385887
WOOOOW
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>>144385887

Unacceptable, I'm taking this complaint to reddit!
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>>144385887
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>>144385887
Don't worry, the Tomb Kangs will fix the diversity issues.
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>>144385887
>different types of orcs all have the same orc model
gee it's almost like they're all orcs and it would be a fucking stupid waste of time and money to make a shitload of different models for 'orc' 'orc with paint' 'orc who is black' 'slightly bigger orc' also you said black orcs twice
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>>144382647
AAAMSTRONGU GAN
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>>144385887
>false flagging so the defense force is harder when someone has a genuine complaint

good goyim
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>>144385887
>attila
>everyone is a human with a differently coloured stick
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Treasurer Ernst The Wearer of Chains
this guy was MVP of the campaign
took out 300 undead on his own while the infantry made its way through the breach
also destroyed the final undead menace
Franz has nothing on him
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I'm tired of my shittiness in combat.

How do you generally position your units? I can't seem to ever get good positions with my units.
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>>144386587
fuck you I was making a kang joke
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>>144386565
get creative
mounts go flank and pick off weak/isolted units

a lot of people just do 1 line of melee in front 1 line of archers in back then siege behind that

that is not what sun tzu would do
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>>144385887

>romans
>romans with pointy eagle
>romans with different hat
>romans with better pauldrons

WHOLE RACES WITH ONE VARIANT
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>>144386565
depends on your goal
if you want to rush go for the surround, if you want to defend, protect your flanks and artillery
leave some specialty units in the back row so they can deal with things once the melee begins
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>>144386615
Sun Tzu would autoresolve with trash units
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>>144386565
Get the longer combat mod so the fight isn't over in 2 mins so you can actually position and maneuver your troops with out your line routing once the melee starts
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>fort jakova is hit by an earthquake and volcano at the same time

The fuck is wrong with that place
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>>144386565
I literally just send my grave guards in the front, then send flying units and cavalry to engage archers, artillery and missile cavalry. If I have melee monsters or spare cavalry, they charge into the enemies flanks and backlines, unless it's more effective for my crypt horrors to charge into their frontlines first which it is sometimes depending on their units and the map. It's really pretty basic tactics.
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>>144386993
usually an earthquake and a volcano eruption go hand in hand
I think it's the devs trolling
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>>144387060
that's how you play Vamps
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>>144386587
maybe people just like enjoying the video game instead of being a miserable retard like you
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>necromancers have the same lore as vampires

Literally whats the point of taking them
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>>144387168
yeah that's what I said
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>>144387678
>defending a game on a Chinese poetry forum
>for free
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>>144387759
Necro Heroes get vampires, Vampire heroes get Death

go figure
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>>144387826
Well yeah that's what people do when someone shits on something they like you retard
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>>144387769
yes I agree
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Why do battles last for like 2 seconds?

This game is criminally overrated
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>>144388091
it's a bit of a shame, but meh I'll try some mods when I'm done with all the campaigns
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>>144387826
>five, seven and five
>you sir, have bad opinions
>warhammer is good

-sips tea-
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>>144388091

How do you people get the battles to last for such a short time? Every battle usually takes me 10 - 15 minutes.

Do you play on triple speed or something?
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>>144388091

i look for QUALITY but you just feel the LENGTH
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>>144388269
As soon as your lines meet the game is over in 2mins shill
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>>144388269
artillery
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>>144388484

Literally never had a battle that's been over in 2 minutes.
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>>144388483
>it's not the size of the boat that matters, but the motion of the ocean
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>>144388484
>your lines meet
>lines

hurdur i maek 1 big line axeman den 1 big line shootaman den throw them into eachuther

y it over already?!!1
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>finish my Empire campaign
>get nostalgia for Rome 2
>install it from Steam
>load up a quick custom battle before bed
>a single unit has 480 men
>a single onager unit has 12 onagers

I guess I fucked with this in the past and it's somehow still present, huh
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Somehow, I like both the historical and the fantasy Total War titles. Crazy.
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>>144388484
Maybe you should play on something other then easy
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>>144388484

like in warfare, the game isn't about what happens when the lines meet. it's about what happens before the lines meet.

be like Sun Tzu. Win, and then fight.

it's about composition. it's about positioning. it's about feints and flanks and tactical softening.

but maybe the game's just your cup of tea. that's fine. i'll admit the genre isn't for everyone.

why you gotta be such a salty dog, though?
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>>144388608
Yeh so your saying you have had a battle go on for 15 mins?
>sit still for 10 mins
>charge enemy
>units start routing in 2mins
>battle over in another 2mins
>GUYS! BATTLES ARE FINE MINE GO FOR 15 minutes
yeh fuck off ca shill
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Which is better, Cannon or Grude Thrower?..or are Organ guns better like in the Table top?
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>>144388861
I want to say the Grudge Thrower is better for general purpose use, and the Cannon is better for killing large creatures.
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>>144388829

siege battles and battles with terrain often go on for longer

and if you're sitting still you're a retard. move some calvary around nigga goddamn
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Minor settlements can't be upgraded past three. So what is the best things to slot in all the minor settlements?
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>>144388664
These unit sizes really need to become the norm
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>>144388775
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FUCKING VIKINGS WHY CAN'T THEY LEAVE MY HEARTH ALONE
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>>144388829

Because a lot of the time, that's not at all what happens.

If you keep flanking units with shock cavalry or whatever - of course it's gonna be a short battle. It's literally the same in every other TW entry, getting attacked from behind literally drops their morale through the floor.
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>>144389010
Growth
Defense
Money
/
Public Order
Defense
Money

Those shitty norscan shitters can't sack everything if you got walls everywhere.
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As a completionist, I wish that the primarily chapter objective took a little longer to complete. Without turtling, it's easy to have two settlements sacked or occupied within a couple of turns. There's no way to organically complete the other objectives.
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>>144388652
>>144388775
Please enlighten me on your master tactical moves that involve not fighting the enemy line to win
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>>144389036
Fuck off

This is a history-free zone now, nerd

Go back to >>>/vr/ or >>>/gsg/ or something
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If your battles last longer then 5 mins in warhammer your fucking shit at total war
>doesn't supersize me with all the shitters in twg as of late
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>>144388775
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>>144389136

well. 90% of the time you're putting a deathstack on autoresolve

but the other time you're using Calvary, siege and spell assassination

you only want to fight the enemy line half of the time when you have a better line

the other half of the time you're trying to avoid that line
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>>144389159
No, you're not my mom!
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>>144389361
>well. 90% of the time you're putting a deathstack on autoresolve
>autoresolve
It might shock you but people actually fight battles manually instead of abusing autoresolve
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I literally love shitposting in this thread, gets me the most (YOUs) for low quality content and bait

MMMM WARHAMMER

SON OF /GSG/ MEETS GROGNARDS OF /TG/, I LOVE IT, I LOVE BRINGING MEMES TOGETHER
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Couldn't have helped here Franz?
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>>144389530

found the newfag
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>>144388201
i'm already using mods. couldn't stand the economy and short battles.
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>>144389854
what part of the economy?
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The unit sizes really should be this way by default. CA needs to change it, because 1.5k vs 1.5k is getting insanely boring
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>>144388702
literally impossible.
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I finished up my Ork campaign and got the ol' Shogun 2 hankering.

Shogun 2 night battles are the comfiest
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>>144390023
Its a great trick they've pulled

>Game is so optimized!
>unit numbers barely top out at 160 on ultra

The chariots and medium sized monster units are particularly laughable.
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>>144390202
Yeh the game runs great with a 6 monsters taking up a unit card
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How does chaos ever lose when they have units as bullshit as chaos hounds?
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>>144390202
>tfw I get the same performance doing this in Rome 2 on Ultra as I do playing vanilla TWWH, and much better than I get playing vanilla Attila
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>All this complaining about army size in Warhammer

Well, isn't the army size in this Total War game more like the army size in table top Warhammer games? I mean a unit of infantry in Warhammer is only like 20 figures, isn't it? Maybe that was kind of what they were going for. I'm not really trying to defend the game saying ITS PERFECT HOW IT IS, just putting it out there for consideration. Maybe they figured the backlash of Total War fans would pale in comparison to the crying of Warhammer fans because if there's a fandom that can cry loud, it's Warhammer.
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>>144386973
>Get the longer combat mod
do you have the exact name of it? cause i just checked and their's a couple that make it longer.
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>>144390510
Get the Proper Combat mod.
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>>144390202
Another thing I should note is that the casualties taken with such massive unit sizes feel far more realistic paired with vanilla morale making them break off much sooner than the standard of most unit only routing after losing 3/4 of their men
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>>144390341
Because their morale turns to shit at first hint of ranged attacks? Keep a small unit or two near your ranged unit to quick turn intercept them when they get near volley over your infantry and marauders wit/without horse also melt. The same way you deal with all fast cav.
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>>144386973
wait I think I just found it. Is it the one with the trump icon? doesn't look like it would be that help full since all it does is doubles unit health.
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>>144390613
oh. ok. thank you. if you're OP then you can ignore the my other reply than.
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It's a good day to live in the Empire boys!
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>>144390442
As a warhammer fan I'd like to argue this point but then I realised I'd just prove it.
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>>144390442
It would be fun to try playing on small unit size for that tabletop experience after the patch

Still, ultra should have had tons of dudes. Right now it feels like the bare minimum.
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>>144390442
>putting it out there for consideration
>what a fucking cuck
>Why would you shrink the unit sizes
>cause the table top have 20 figures! Xd
>not to hide there shit optimization
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>>144390826

aren't unit sizes modable, still waiting for the NVIDIA optimization patch anyway
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>re unit sizes

It's not graphics optimization. It's pathfinding optimization.
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>>144390826
>Musicians
>Standard bearers

I hope these are DLC.
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>>144390442
>implying only Warhammer fans cry loud
Fallout 4 got console mods recently and the plebs have whined so hard about popular mods being incompatible that several modders have actually stopped doing mods. I would bet that Warhammer fan's aren't nearly as bad as entitled console shitters who are technology illiterate.
>not saying that all console plebs are entitled shitters that have the technical understanding of a caveman, just the loud ones
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>>144384109
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>144390914
You know what they say. The more memetastic you get with your arguments, the easier it is to win.
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>radius mod
>black orc archers

yea nah
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>>144382527
>Fell bats
>God tier
what?
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>>144390678
Op here its the Proper Combat Mod haven't tried the other ones thom, but this one will fix your problem like it did mine
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>>144390826

For some reason, I want to see a boar chariot, with two hyper-speed spinning extendable saw blades from the side of the chariot, with goblins strapped onto the top of the sawblades - so we get the screaming effect.
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>>144391196
Their flying meatshields and cheap as fuck
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>>144389984
the early game economy.
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BIG

BLACK

STORMCRUSHER
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slow, slow progress.
this is about 70-80 turns on VH vc. fucking franz asks for a peace treaty every turn.
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>>144391240
>Proper Combat Mod
really? cause every time I use them they always die too fast to be useful in any way except as scouts or to slow faster units down.plus they do no real damage.
Also is the list for multiplayer of single?
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>>144390962
Probably, but id prefer they push those limits or at least not butcher elite units into /20goodmenWith10000HP/
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>>144391479
>this is about 70-80 turns on VH vc
wait really? chaos already showed up and you killed them?
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>>144391556
He's probably using them singleplayer with the campaign upgrades, fell bats can actually get pretty juicy for their cost. It's more of a cost efficiency and utility thing with respect to the entire vamp army than a "being a real good killy unit" thing
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>>144391384
>you call that a warhammer?
>THIS IS A WARHAMMER

Realism mod where mountain god stomps every other hero when?
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>>144391653
woops, i meant the top image to the bottom image was 70 turns. i'm currently 300 turns in.
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>>144391171
Hist fag here why are black orc archers bad?
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>>144391556
not my list but in multi you can use fell bats to tie up enemy archers and arty while you advance, intercept cav, and shield your Vargheists. They're just a good all around throwaway unit that lets you focus your more expensive units on better tasks.
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>>144391295
you mean having too little money?
Which factions were you struggling with, orks?
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>>144391832
Okay so Orcs like fighting up close and personal thats their culture only weak boys use arrows and shit. Black Orcs are like genetically modified Orcs to be the biggest meanest and baddest. Ain't no Black Orc gonna be a pussy using arrows they are gonna be in the thick of it fighting. Its so fucking stupid.
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>>144391832
Because they didnt get written into an army book.

Logically its perfectly reasonable that they have archers since they are more disciplined and tactical than other orcs.

Arrer boys are less realistic tb.h
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>>144391850

And yet the dogs are better at everything the bats do, except flying.
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>>144391832
>Black Orcs
>The biggest and fightiest of Orcs
>Pride themselves on their melee combat skills and being the pinnacle of Orciness

>Arrer Boys
>Weedy gits who fght in an unorcy manner

That's the issue. It would be like an Amish person having a fridge. It's just entirely against their entire society.
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are this some sort of bretonnian jest
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>>144391479
>>144391759
ah ok that makes more sense . another question did you declare war on all of them or did they do it to you? cause right now i'm at turn 102 just killed chaos and all the human factions/dwarf faction now wanna be my ally cause I'm fucking up the Norsca factions. I mean I don't mind having the 3 independent human faction on my good side but bret and dwarfs? really?
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>>144391832

Black orcs literally have an aryan complex going on and think they're the best orcs being the only disciplined force in an orc battle. Which is why they take forever to kill and break. Archers are considered unorcy and you don't give a bow to the orciest of them all.
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>>144392003
The dogs can neither suicide rush arty to shut it down nor be used as a screen for your Vargheists. The dogs are really really great though. Honestly that list massively undervalues a lot of VC units.
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>>144391853
it was vamps. I wanted to be able to field the s
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>>144392116
Grail Knights and Louen.

Also they get a massive auto resolve bonus for having cavalry and artillery when you don't.
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>>144392125
they all declared war on me at the same time after i cleared out the varg. pretty dick move but we are the only 4 factions left.
VC seem to be the lesser of the evils (greenskins/chaos/varg) for the ai. i was best buddies with the dwarves at the startbecause i was fighting the orcs, then the humans wanted treaties when i was fucking the chaos up.
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>>144391556
this is why you use bats
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I CANT FUCKING WIN AS VAMPIRE COUNTS ON HARD REEE
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GOD BLESS TOWERS
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>>144392225
>s
what?
If you put the gold mine you should be able to field two armies on your first two provinces
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>>144391853
>>144392225
>it was vamps. I wanted to be able to field the sta -cks of yor.
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>>144391957
>>144391981
>>144392021
>>144392148
ty bro fuck radious what a retard never have liked his mods
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Speaking of orcs being un-orclike, what's the story behind those orc mounted crossbow mercenaries? they seem like good lads but certainly not ordinary by any means
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>>144392209
>The dogs can neither suicide rush arty to shut it down

That's literally my main purpose for them. They even do it better than the bats, because they have vanguard deployment.
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>>144392353
stacks of yor. like back in the day where you could have more than 2 stacks at the beginning.
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>lets give archers to a race that doesn't break from morale with alot of meatshields that can pin you down
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>>144392320
Don't fight frontal engagements with your good troops. Send the zombies and skeletons in and hit them on their flanks with your good infantry(Ghouls, Grave Guard, Crypt Horrors) and use your special units to hit their rear. Vampires are really about striking fast while your opponent is tied down fighting crap.

>>144392412
You mean the Half-Orcs?
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>>144392301
ok then their's still hope. I just got my zombie dragon too.
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>>144392523
oh okay
you still can
you just can't get two stacks of endgame units
2.5k from start and 2k fromt the mind + taxes easily gives you two stacks
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>>144392668
>mind
mine
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wew, orc start is a shitshow
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>>144392623
Half orcs? I did a google and found what I was talking about, it was Ruglud's Armoured Orcs, led by a guy touched my Mork in the typical manner of a big rock falling onto his head

Now tell me about these half orcs, aren't the orcs in the warhammer world reproducing as fungi?
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>>144392501
Bats are faster and can fly over everything, avoiding infantry and cavalry. They both do a pretty good job, but bats are just a lot easier to maneuver around the place I find. I'd rather have black knights than dogs, and they're only slightly more expensive anyway.

>>144392623
>Vampires are really about striking fast while your opponent is tied down fighting crap.
Pretty much. I usually have half my army as grave guard dudes, or skellingtons earlier on or for less elite armies, use those to engage everyone and then use the other half of the army consisting of black knights and monsters to flank them and smash them from behind, while keeping missile cavalry and archers off me with flying units and cavalry. In addition to the fear your units give to them, they tend to break really quickly this way, which is how I win most battles. I mean, it's not exactly an in-depth unique strategy I thought up or anything, that's basically the entire game plan of the vampire counts.
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so does chaos corruption actually do anything for you when you're playing as them? because it sure as fuck isn't doing any attrition damage to enemies on legendary.
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>tfw you have to wait for these cunts to slowly wave their swords about a billion times after they win a battle

Why
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>>144392808
i tried vh before, and 20 turns in i have about 5 full stack armies in my provinces.
fugg that, went back to the counts.
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>>144392834

it got retconned out and never mentioned
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>>144370207
SUMMON THE ELECTRIC CUNTS.
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>>144391832

Another type of example of what level of heresy it is, in terms of history.

Imagine giving Spartan Hoplites bows.
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GOTREK & FELIX WHEN
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>>144393143
>tfw radious has probably done that
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>>144392834
They were old fluff back from 1st edition

Also Rugluds Orcs use crossbows because they are trying to emulate Dwarfs
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Alright all you memelords yelling about how hexwraiths and cairnwraiths are shit are full of bullshit

I literally held up 5 unit of orc archers with one unit of cairnwraiths that took no damaged and terrorized them all

God, I'd hate to imagine what hexwraiths were like, I wish they had charge bonuses, kinda sucks ethereal cavalry does have better charge
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>>144393230

>Next on the list of things that never happened

Here's your (you)
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>>144393230
Alright all you memelords yelling about how zombies are shit are full of bullshit

I literally held up 5 unit of orc archers with one unit of zombies that took no damaged and killed them all

God, I'd hate to imagine what zombies were like, I wish they had charge bonuses, kinda sucks skeleton cavalry does have better charge
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>>144393213
I like it, dwarven chain and crossbows, I hope modders get to dogs of war if CA really doesn't have plans for mercenaries.
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>>144393396
Fuck off, you are the poster with an agenda against cairnwraiths aren't you.

I had a fucking banshee and cairnwraith rape teh everliving shit outta and orc army
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>>144393031
BY SIGMAR NO
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>>144393205
he did
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?622535-Radious-Unit-Pack-2-Rise-of-an-Empire-(Updated-20-08-2015)
also this
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>>144393556
banshees are friggin awesome
I didn't realize just how much until I was fighting them as empire
same thing with cairn wraiths
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>play Shogun 2
>figure I haven't played Hattori in a long time
>turn 12
>2 full stacks of Ikko Ikki invades the province north from Iga
>2 generals are 4 stars
>the other 2 generals are 3

And now I remembered why I stopped playing this game. I had forgotten how much the game cheats.
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>>144393770
Chiming in here with the banshee support

Literally had my banshee 1v1 solo a steam tank, honestly one of the most OP melee units

Wonder if a wight king can match a bansh
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>>144393884
not against armored units I'd think
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>when you brought all these guys along for the ride but your siege strategy boils down to "can we get Kholek in there?"
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FUN AND INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE
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>>144393996
yeah this needs modding
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>>144389369
>Dickhead guy
>His horse peacefully eats grass amidst the battle
>Right guy already accepted his fate

My sides.
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>>144393884

>Duelist hero
>Won a duel

Shocker
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>>144394094
banshee does great in melee as well
and is durable
basically a witchunter on steroids
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>>144393995
>siege strategy
>in TWWH

its literally just "rush all your units onto the wall" and slug it out
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>>144393650
We need to stop him!
>SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
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>>144394094
How many heroes you know that can solo a steamtank?
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>>144394169
You seem to imply it's ever been any different
>>
>get to turn 200
>restart

Idk why but I just get bored by then
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>>144375760
Just because sieges are shit now, doesn't mean they haven't always been shit.
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ok really, what does chaos corruption even do when you play as them?
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>>144394313
tfw nothing will ever capture the magic of early-game combat with limited unit numbers when your units are unique and special

I know I treasured my little varghulf pupper and he meant something, as did the terrorgheist but lategame becomes so bloatead and combat feels shit

Anyone feel like this?
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>>144394313
not really surprising since that's the time you have to start wiping out the varg/slowly clearing out your enemies.
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>>144394208
There's a story about some guy who captured about a dozen or so italian tanks by knocking on the hatch and pointing a pistol at the commander because they didn't have radioes and communicated by foot messengers.
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>>144394447
99% auto resolve at turn 300 tbqh
i can fight but i don't really want to.
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>>144394313
i get board by turn 80 and restart
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>weaving a glorious silver carpet for your gods

>>144394169
Climbing one at a time up ladders into empire greatswords? No, thanks. Been there before. My guys are expendable, but I have other armies in the area to fight when I'm through trashing this house.
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why the fuck is the map for warhammer so god damn tiny
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>>144394438
It's easier to just make it auto resolve only.
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>>144394672
To force you to buy the bigger map DLC/Expansion.
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>>144394207
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>>144394712
the worst part is i completely believe you, and it's CA's doing this time and not sega
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>>144394838
It's always GW/Sega's doing if CA fucks anything up.
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>>144394926
I mean maybe, the same thing is said about bethseda/zenimax but i don't know what to believe anymore
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>>144391171
Uninspired and repetitive as mods nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Radious mod, the latest entry to modding self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Radious mod seems like your ordinary mod which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "understanders of strategy" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.

Radious mod is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the mod with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Radious mod wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the modding community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Radious is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “understanders of strategy” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

I don’t think this mod justifies an arbitrary rating of stars; it’s much better than that. It deserves a place among the highest modern philosophical works of our world. "Nietzsche, thy name is Radious."
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>>144395060
is this written by that autistic swede arch warhammer?
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>>144395060
Holy shit WHY is /twg/ filled with some of the most ERUDITE, WITTY, INTELLIGENT and NIHILISTIC posters on 4chan?

Wicked, absolutely wicked
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is proper combat mod really that good? some of these changes seem retarded. why the fuck would you buff greatswords?
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>>144395257
cause they are underpowered?? Same with handgunners
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Sour da Grumpy Git
Lord of Poor Strategy,
Prince of Not Knowing When to Attack,
Defender of the Path of Bad Decisions,
Esteemed Champion of the Goblin People of the Badlands
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>>144395305
AYO SO YOU BE SAYIN

WE WUZ GRAAAAVE GUARDS N SHIET????
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ELVES WHEN
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>>144395305
des iz gon' get krumped
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HOL UP

So you saying.... there is a pause button in Total Warhammer?

I've been trying to control my 3 full stacks in real time.

SHIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEET
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Is the proper combat mod any good?
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>>144395461
If you use it you can't post here anymore
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>>144395305
No it's fine, he's got good gear. He's going to fuck you up.
>>144395461
Please use the pause button responsibly.
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>>144395496
if you are an empire babby, yes
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"The Goblin Spear Wall"
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>>144395289
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>>144395461
>he doesn't play on legend
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>>144395496
It seems fine, good balance of slowing the game down while still not dragging on too long. A line brawl will drag on, but you can still end a fight in literal seconds by throwing dragon ogres into their rear.
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>>144395257
Give it a try iy sure you will enjoy the combat alot more then the 6mins of click fest in vanillla
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>12 crypt horrors tear through big'uns

What is this shit.
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>>144389019
What is it with people's hardons for stupid huge units?

It just looks ugly having two huge blobs blobbing at each other. Smaller units allow for distinct lines and elements of the battle. If you want to control more men just increase the number of units per battle, not models per unit.
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>>144395575
DELETE THIS
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>>144395558
>>144395559

I'm going to abuse the SHIT out of that pause button. It's not fun to play for 8+ hours then run into THIS with your only option being to reach for the lube.
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>>144395608
does it boil down to this?
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>>144395461

I forgot the hotkey to pause the game because I'm a literal retard and I've now completed several campaigns without doing it. Just get used to it, you'll be better off if you ever want to move up the difficulty ladder.
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>>144395575
It was at This Moment that Lord Sour the Grumpy Git realized that He had made a Terrible Mistake
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>>144395794
AYO SO YOU BE SAYIN

WE WUZ

MONSTROUS CRECHURES AN SHIIET?
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A question for lorefags. How heretical is it for Bretonnian knights to fight on foot ? I kinda want to download a mod that lets them do that but it feels like i'll be fucking the balance and lore up.
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>>144395756
Why are you dorfs yellow?
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>>144395761
Lewd as fuck
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>>144395761
S T R A T E G Y
T
R
A
T
E
G
Y
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>>144393996
>>144394064

Fuck off, there are literal agents which exist to counter agent spam. If you don't have one of them axed out in each of your armies it's your own fault.
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>>144395854
>that's fantasy in my fantasy

this is worse than autism
>>
I WANT A PET-SIZED VARGHULF AND A BUNCH OF TERRORGHEIST IN A BIRD CAGE NOWWWWW
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>>144394169
>going on the walls
lmao
fuck that.

Use cannons to blow their wall apart, then rush through and slug it out on the ground.
Walls are for handgunners, so you only need two units up there to clear out enemy trash.
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>>144396064
>48% chance to succeed
>critical failure
>your lord is wounded
>your lord is wounded
>your lord is wounded
>your army has been assaulted
>>
Battles take forever to load in Warhammer, and I've got everything on smallest settings. Is it a RAM issue? I didn't have these problems on Ultra with Shogun II
>>
New Players -

Protips:

#1 - Hit dat ass
#2 - Use the pause button, yes there is a pause button
#3 - Focus all your missile ranged units. Faster they die = less damage you take
#4 - Hit dat ass
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>>144394447
I always turn that first Varghulf you get as Mannfred into Mannfred's personal guard. I usually rename him too.
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>it's that part of the game where Varg/Skaelig/Bjornling takes a minute and a half to do their turns because of how many stacks they have

Time to restart again.
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>>144396108
tfw no babby varghulf pupper

Why does this game hurt so good?
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>one dude assaults my army
>kills over 300 big strong chaos dudes by himself

What the fuck
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>>144396172

With maxed out Witch Hunter / Banshees / Rune Smiths / Big Bosses the enemy agents are more likely to kill themselves then succeed.
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>>144396064
>misses the point
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>>144396241
>>one dude assaults my army
>>kills over 300 big strong chaos dudes by himself
HIST FAG BTFO LMAO
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>>144396237
>>144396108
Come to Australia, faggots.
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>templehof armor quest battle

Christ these fuckers didnt balance these quests at all, some are easy enough for a baby, others are hard as hell
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>>144396176
do you have a 5400 rpm hard drive? That's probably why if you do
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>>144396279
and yet they still succeed
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>>144396178
terrible tips from the scrublord himself
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>>144396292
Ahh yes, Ser Twen Tee Goodmen
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>>144396382
7,300 actually is what I got it on. Would switching ShogunII to my SSD help, I prefer my SSD for critical things and not vidya but I really hate waiting a minute to load in.
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>>144396176
SSD.
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>>144396363

Forgot text. Anyways, is doing this a good idea?

These dorfs have a lot of territory, but they're also at war with a bunch of people and I'm worried it'll fuck my economy while I'm trying to deal with endless Grimgor shenanigans.
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>>144396347
why is your country so shit?
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In Total Warhammer, how many full stacks of units should I be expected to have by turn 40? I kinda feel like I should spread out more but soon as I do, I get raided on my lesser settlements.
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>>144396462
SSDs are cheap as fuck now, you can get 1tb SSDs at ~500 dillery dollary doos.
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>>144396486
Say that to my face, motherfucker.
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>>144396474

Every confederation is worth it, in the long run.
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>>144396502
3 or 4.
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>>144396474
>I'm worried it'll fuck my economy while I'm trying to deal with endless Grimgor shenanigans.

I know that feel, broseph. I had to restart after Grimgor arrived and I wasn't prepared.

>>144395884

Can I change their color? I would like Green, Blue or Black dawi.
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>>144396502
Probably 2-4 depending on the quality of your stacks.
I'd say one stack for every 2 provinces later one per 3
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>>144396502

One full stack is enough for the early game, just make sure you always max out the defensive structures in every settlement.
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I feel like VC needs Re-VAMP-ment in the building department. You need so much for high need units.

Vamp Crypts+This+That. Do they not get global recruitment either? What is the building set up?

Chaos is here and all I can do is skellies. What is going on? I need a guide or something.
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>>144395761
Charges to the rear are still effective at breaking morale, so you wouldn't get something like that.
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>>144396702
What I mean is if infantry is fucking worthless and only good as an anvil like in DeI.
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>>144396686
you can get all recruiting buildings in your starting region if you want
also raise dead
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>>144396650

>tfw people said the Dwarf campaign would be comfy
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>>144396742
Oh. No.
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This fucking Dwarfs just killed over 200 fucking Greenskin shits completely alone, routing the whole enemy army!

DWARFS BEST RACE
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>>144374102
What lives in their Southern Africa and Australia?
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>>144396753

But Chaos has come and skellies aren't going to do it right now.
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>chaos chariot charges my crossbowmen
>kills one
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>>144396879

>manlet uprising.png
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>>144396919
Australia is the most peaceful and safe landmass in WHFB.
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>empire of sigmar mod

What a fucking amazing mod
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>mfw I realize I didn't need to max horse and pegasus to get Deathclaw
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>>144397053
whoops
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>>144396279
muh girls are OP as fuck, literally destroying walls turning siege battles into basically normal battles, assassinating everyone left and right, and blocking people so I can catch and slaughter them or stop an army dead for several turns so my guys can get over their and defend

>>144396686
You literally just need an armory and a barrow (tier 2 cemetery) to get grave guards, which are basically your main elite front-line unit, unless you want the greatsword guys who are superior for anything with armored infantry. Upgrade barrow to a mausoleum and you get black knights, and suddenly you have solid infantry and cavalry. Build a forest and you can get bats, upgrade it to level 2 and you get vargheists. You can use both of those to fuck up their artillery and ranged units. They're all really easy to build and quite cheap, except for the armory which is 4k, but that's really not that much. The vampire crypts and the keep are only for varghulfs (arguably a fairly shit unit and certainly not necessary) and the pretty sweet terrorgheists, who are cool and expensive but also not necessary, but nice. The black coach is apparently fucking shit, I haven't actually built one yet so I have no idea.

You can also just raise the dead in a province where a lot of units have died, so if you made a huge army of zombies for super cheap and smashed them into another army, you'd be able to recruit the higher tier units without building the buildings for them.
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After 32hours of playing, they should really let you save formations so that you don't have to rearrange all of your units each and every time you glance at a battle.

My most used formations are; The Wall, Crane Wing, and Zulu Bullhorns.
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>>144397224
Women are inferior to men.
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>>144397251
>he doesn't make use of the terrain
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>>144397224
Black coaches are bretty fun in campaign.

>1 manfred on dragon
>1 black coach
>16 cav and two terrorgheist
>encircle enemy army compeletely
>send in black coach alone
>enemy wraps the fuck around it trying to break in
>charge 16 cav, manfred and 2 terrorgheists into their ball and rout everything
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>>144397575
>>1 manfred on dragon
>>1 black coach
>>16 cav and two terrorgheist
>>encircle enemy army compeletely
>>send in black coach alone
>>enemy wraps the fuck around it trying to break in
>>charge 16 cav, manfred and 2 terrorgheists into their ball and rout everything

Man I wish I was this creative or intelligent

All I can ever think of doing is 10 infantry, 2 cav, 3 mostrous creatures, 2 flying one legendary lord

Sucks being dumb, anyone else know this feel?
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>>144397053
i was just looking at it is it good?
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>necromancers get lore of vampires
>vampires get lore of death

Wut
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>fighting Empire as Orks

This is just fucking painful.
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>>144397646
it doesn't actually add any new content.
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>>144397628
I'm in the same boat. All I always think about is just making a balanced army and using the same cookie cutter strategies.
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>>144375561
No.

They've perfected sieges now
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>>144397646
No it just makes the Empire even more OP
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>>144397628
>>144397774

Well the cookie cutter legion is adaptable and will see you through the day 9 battles out of ten, it's not wrong to stick to form.

But when you've played total war since shogun 2 and get a game like warhammer, you kinda jump at the chance to start doing goofy shit. Mobile armies are nothing new though, playing huns in attila gets you used to using a lot more space on the battlefield and seeing things differently.
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>>144397832
Any other cool armies you made with vampire counts?

Whats your opinion on hexwraiths and cairnwraiths?
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Why are they called "black" orcs? Their skin isn't black, is it because black is an ominous color? Or something to do with their origins?
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>>144397980
Their skin is darker and they wear black armour
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>>144397980
Orcs are basically sentient mushrooms
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>>144397980
Cuz they was slaves n shit
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>>144397980
Niggers.
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FUCKING
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Why are giants so shit on small unit sizes settings?
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>>144398082
HELL
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The fuck is a lightning strike battle?
It's ruined everything.
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>>144375947
This is not okay
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>want to play something other than Empire
>can't stop playing Empire
HELP ME
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Anyone really just hate missile units in general?

The fact that decisive battles are decided in literal minutes here always make me feel like ranged units are pointless when you could take a cav unit instead.

Wolves man, wolves FUCKING WRECK. Cheap unit, faster than cavalry, DEVASTATING IN REAR CHARGES and has terror and shit. Only thing is its bad against armor but hell, its insane
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Do I still get a crash playing as a minor faction when chaos arrives?
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>>144397954
Just experiment and have fun, and don't let anyone tell you you're wrong for not spamming greatswords and steam tanks. I find that's the quickest way to turning a fun campaign into a slogfest I don't even want to bother fighting through.

Cairns I never really used, because hexes are the same thing but mounted. Hexes I use in the center of a cav wing with 2 black knight lancers as their wingmen, when they meet resistance they shoot out to meet the lance charge and cushion the damage, while the lancers push on around and smash from both sides. Other than that they're a pretty generic terror unit and I will admit they're pretty overpriced in upkeep when I could have a terrorgheist. Some units just really do need some mod or patch love.
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>>144398242
Means you only have to fight one stack if they have reinforcing stacks.

Good for sniping Chaos's LL, or whittling away the enemy, but not always desirable. Good thing it's optional.
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>Already completed every campaign twice now

GIVE ME FUCKING BRETONNIA ALREADY REEEEEE
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>>144398304
I was playing as Estalia and the Chaos invasion worked fine
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Anyone try research+building times x2 + delayed Chaos? I like the idea of not having elite infantry within 20 turns
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>>144398403
now play on medium
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>these shitmonkeys

NEVER

USE

FANATICS

EVER
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>>144398536
I've done each on VH, I've got 200 hours
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Uh, Gelt.

What if they just vanguard deploy wolf riders, or dire wolves on you? What will you do then?
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what the fug
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>>144398426
btw which mod are you using?
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>>144398716
I've actually noticed Estalia usually blobs into Bretonia, but it's the first time I've ever seen them get that far north.
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>>144398479
did you try it?
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>>144398778
No, you?
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>>144398638
as with everything Gelt encounters
turn them into gold
I wish transmuting the enemy would give you money
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>>144398839
no
but I'm thinking of sticking to lower tier units in later playthroughs anyway
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Wait, can't you confederate the Top Knotz?
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>>144398479
How do you people get elites by turn 20? I barely manage to scrape enough by turn 70-ish as dwarves.
I mean, you've got to field 3 to for fullstacks just to keep advancing and have at least 2-3k surplus on top to build higher tier stuff.
Not to mention the elites cost twice as much as tier 1 units.
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Fighting Bretonnia is pretty comfy, they can never take your settlements as long as you got walls.
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>start chaos legendary
>3 dwarf doomstacks on turn 8 chasing me
>their units are only taking 2 damage per turn in attrition
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>>144399018
dude they got flying horses
now if they weren't made out of paper that would be scary
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>>144399018
>no dismount button

This kills the knight
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probably going to try legendary empire after this vc vh. any pro tips?
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>>144325664
>>144325664
>>144325664

I've contacted them but they still won't give me it.

I am both frustrated and intrigued.
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>>144399314
>Please be patient

damn son
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>>144399314
I'm going to hazard a guess and say they didn't think it would be solved in less than an hour.
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>>144399314
Augh please be new DLC or something I'm so desperate for content. God damn it. If I had anything else to do it wouldn't be bad but fuck the game is good but it's just a solid foundation.
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>>144399459
It feels like a very polite gutpunch. I feel like If I ask them again they might actually tell me to fuck off.

>>144399518
Maybe they shouldn't have made their puzzle so damn easy.
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>>144399030
no seriously this is fucking retarded. i know legendary does some bullshit but come the fuck on.
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How the fuck do you defeat heroes? They just tear through any unit I throw at them. Granted I play empire, but my dudes barely do any damage to them.

Only reliable way I've found is to kite them around with ranged units and drop them slowly.
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>>144399846
I'm guessing it's going to be either a copy of the game or the High King edition, which is annoying because I already have those.

Though the fact that Joey went out of her way to record a congratulation message that only I would see does make me think it's something more.
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>>144395735
People want to have big battles because battles fought between nations should be big.

>It just looks ugly having two huge blobs blobbing at each other

Seriously, just get the fuck out
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>>144399907

handgunners
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What the fuck
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>>144399907
With your own Hero's just accuse them. Or mosh them with units and destroy their morale with ranged fire
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>>144399907
Witchhunters bruh
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>>144400045
did you just take a pic with your phone
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>>144400045
you just took a picture of your monitor

it's 2016

what the fuck dude
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>>144400045
Did you really just take a photo of your screen?
You can just press F12 and it'll save a screenshot.
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>>144400047
>>144400094

But Witch Hunters have god-tier campaign skills, I need them to assassinate those fucking agents.
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>>144400045
no words. no words for this.
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>>144399945
What if you have to wait like till the end of the month because they didn't think anyone would get it so fast. Holy crap I'd go mad waiting for you.
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>>144400045
Is this some of that 'irony' I've been hearing about?
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>>144400045
Did you... did you just take a photo of your screen?
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>>144400134
Haha who cares
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>Fighting several stacks of chaos and the northmen in Nordland/Ostmark
>Estalia decides now is a good time to declare war on me
>Fucking beelines through Bretonnia territory and past my dwarven vassals
>Razes all of Wissenland to the fucking ground and sacks Grunberg before I turn my armies around and stop them
>Chaos crushes Nordland and Ostermark while I'm gone

Estalian fucking shits
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is there any point using handgunners over outriders?
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>>144400271
I thought taking a screenshot only worked out of games
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>>144400137
you only need 1 point for accuse
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>>144400395

True, but I kinda expected that you wanted the combat skills to blast them with too.
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>>144400328
Higher volume of fire breaks enemy morale down faster.
They also benefit from the pistolkorps lord skill and the volley fire tech.
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>>144399314
someone tell me what is this?
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>>144400487
I know but the issue I have with them is that if their infantry closes with my frontline they can't hit shit.
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>>144400553
Can't they shoot over your own units?
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>>144400185
Might firebomb CA's offices if that happens.

>>144400496
Two days ago CA released a panorama image with a promise of a "secret easter-egg" hidden in it. I found a youtube link, messaged CA about it and they sent me the "real" link to a congratulation message recorded by Joey (pic related from my vast collection) promising a "special gift" to the first person to email a special email address.

I did that and won, and CA haven't given me my special gift yet.
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>>144400686
well congrats
I think
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fucking hell. how do I deal with these greenskin armies with dwarfs. Greenskins tend to spam fuckload of archers and horsearchers. They just fuck up my armies every time
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>>144400553

If you're outnumbered and/or surrounded:
Leave gaps in your frontline so that handgunners in a square formation can fire through it, but the space won't be big enough to like the enemy charge past your melee troops.
Or
Have the handgunners fire on the enemy's ranged units and shoot retreating units in the back.

If you're evenly matched:
Stick all your handgunners on one or both wings, then when the enemy engages, swing them out and fire on the enemy's sides
Or just find good terrain. Park them at the base of a hill, so they can fire on units charging over the hill. Or park them at the top of the hill so they can fire down.
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>>144400760
Maybe the reward is blue balls and disappointment.
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Looking for a cute /twg/ boyfriend to be gay together

We must voice chat frequently, and watch an endless number of /his/ documentaries and movies, while playing TW together whenever it strikes our moods.
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>>144400832
I would if you werent a weeb
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>>144400832
sup
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>>144382772
>>144382647
>>144382635

Are there any articles or forum posts explaining why everyone hates VC units?

I've seen people bitch about units that can't 1v1 their equivalent units of other races but the game isn't a duel arena and that's not how the races are supposed to play.
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>>144401043

Ethereal units are shit
Monsters are shit
Cav is sub par
Kemmler and necromancers are useless
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1. Why would I ever use a Necromancer over a Vampire for both heroes and lords?

2. Does Spirit Leech do 50% less damage on Dwarfs or did it just get nerfed?

3. At what power level would you put Hexwraiths?
I tend to do very well with a lot of zombies, skellies and GW grave guards where I just add some fell bats and vargheists to fuck up artiellry and missilie troops in the back.

I want to like Cairn Wraiths and Hexwraitsh but I seem to be using them wrong all the time no matter what I play against.
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>>144400778
moar quarrellers
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>>144401043
they're the easiest faction to play so all the scrubs complain that they don't have an instawin button 100% of the time
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>>144401137

Dwarfs have a 25% magic resistance across the board.
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>>144401137

>1. Why would I ever use a Necromancer over a Vampire for both heroes and lords?

There's no reason

>
2. Does Spirit Leech do 50% less damage on Dwarfs or did it just get nerfed?


Nope
>3. At what power level would you put Hexwraiths?

The lowest
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>>144401217
>easiest

Thats dorfs m8
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>>144401289
So we should only use zombies, skellies, vargheists, fellbats, dire wolves, grave guards and black knights then?

How about the Black Coach is it good? Never tried it so not so sure what it does.

And how about Terrorgheists and Varghulfs?
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>>144401360
dwarfs require more insight at higher difficulties
I tried a legendary campaign the other day with VC and easily beat a 2-1 battle with shit units
VC is the easiest faction hands down
>>144401452
dude Varghulf and Terrorgheist are extremely useful
black coach is kind of gimmicky
and wraiths have their uses against armor for example
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>>144401571
>and wraiths have their uses against armor for example

Except grave guard GW do that 100x better
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>>144401648
I'd have to test it more extensively but they do very well in a flanking role
also they're faster and not too weak to missile fire
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>>144401756
They're pointless, they get 75% damage reduction while having 75% less health than other units
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>>144401797
They have 2880 health, Black Knights have 4680, Grave Guards have 6210. Greatsword Grave Guards are armored and do armor piercing. Hexwraiths and Cairn Wraiths have no armor, do armor piercing, and have ALL physical damage, including armor piercing, reduced by 75%. Also, in case you couldn't do the maths, they don't have 75% less health than other units, unless you can point out an equivalent unit that has over 10k health.
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>>144401452
Is that thing even human ?
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>>144402245
40% human 60% photoshop
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>>144401797
I looked at the stats again and.
They cause terror, have higher attack, almost twice the speed and do more damage
so they kill stuff a lot faster
combine that with tech buffs and army upgrades and they become very powerful
The thing is to watch out for magical damage ie lords or chaos buffs like flaming banner.
Then they start to take a bit of damage.
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>It's the "I can't be fucked micromanaging killing all these agents and repairing my buildings and shit so I'm going to ignore it all, click through the AHH OOH AAHH at the start of every turn, and blitz my armies around committing genocide on the remaining enemies" part of the campaign
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>>144374312
>[CURRENT CENTURY] total war
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6XtpqfEd4

Christ someone actually pronouncing the name right
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>>144400686
will you post when you get your "special gift"?
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>>144401091
> Ethereal units are shit
No they're not, Cairn Wraiths can easily kill Demigryphs on the flank and Hexwraiths deployed on the Vanguard murder ranged units and are nearly impossible to catch.....what do you expect them to do?

> Monsters are shit
Are they? They seem pretty good at hunting the outfield units and with Vanhels can catch ranged cav very easily.

>Cav is sub par
Okay.

> Kemmler and necromancers are useless
How? Because of the skill tree that Vampires get? Necromancers are great agents in the campaign for corruption and your economy and are needed to hold distant parts of your line so your units don't crumble before you can get flanks off. Kemmler is god tier support hero with his Chaos Blade making Grave Guard hold the center for an eternety. Of course you'd bring a Vampire Lord & Hero as well.

I'm honestly curious to learn the problems VC from the min maxers around.
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>>144402735
>Arch
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>>144402863
>-aon
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>>144402817
>Hexwraiths deployed on the Vanguard murder ranged units and are nearly impossible to catch

That's any cavalry, hex wraiths just aren't good enough to be worth using. What's the point of giving them 75% damage resistance if you're just going to give them 75% less hp?
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>>144402735
Arh-Chay-On is how it has always been pronounced idk why Arch was sperging out there at the beginning. I've literally never anyone ever pronounce it differently than above.
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>>144402735
I always pronounced it as Arh-kay-on
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>>144403006
CA didn't pronounce it right in their chaos trailer, Darren called him Ar-shay-on and Arkon and its mispronounced a lot by youtubers.
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>>144402962
They have 61.53% as much health as Black Knights.
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>get tired of constant badlands maps during orc campaign
>look forward to grass as empire
>nothing but fucking obscuring forests and shitty hills
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>Bretonnia decided they wanted a piece of da boss
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>>144402376
man with DLC on a bigger map and more factions late-game will slow to a fucking halt. I already have like 5 different big army stacks on several different fronts while my 2 "police armies" (basically just in-region armies that go around and beat down rebellions) go around and secure my land. One fucking turn takes me as long as 10 turns during mid-game.
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>>144403167
>all these dope maps with neat little hills and valleys or conjoining paths for the armies to clash in the middle
>AI just sits in the corner anyways and makes you spend 5 minutes walking towards him
>EVERY
>DAMN
>TIME

Seriously, what the hell is the point of half the variations in the underway maps when the AI just fuck sits there and makes you walk through it all anyways.
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>>144402962
So invocation of neckek er what it's called basically resurrects half the unit with one cast.
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>>144402962
Because after you kill their gunners & outriders you can take Demigryph knights down to half, run them back to your line and when you AOE Invoke since their HP is has a low max you can get them back up to max unit size...over the course of a battle thats 1 Hexwraith winning against 3 units with the only help being an AOE spell you'd be using on your Grave Guard anyway.

Same with Cairn Wraiths.
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>>144403252
fuck this game for making me fight this shit manually, I just want to slaughter the remaining cities so I can win the game already

I literally just go through my forces list and move each thing towards the next city without thinking about it, because right now, it doesn't matter, even if I fuck up and lose a town or something I can just march right on over and murder them, and it just makes it easier to catch them.
>>
Can you siege multiple times a turn with the same unit in TW:WH like I believe you could in Atilla.
As in attack fortess, use siege equipment on the walls, retreat then attack again? I remember in Atilla using a spam of catapult ships to shoot up a coastal fortresses defenders until out of ammo, retreating and then attacking again a few times in the same turn.
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>>144403582
>yeah fuck this game for making me play it
Just make autoresolve stacks then
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>>144402765
Yep.
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>>144403789
I'm not sure why, but I enjoyed the actual battles more in atilla and shogun 2.
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How many archers ride in an arachnarok? Can I replace my night goblins with them or are they not really that viable ranged
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>>144403601
Nevermind, just tested and the answer is no, I think it was only a naval thing anyway.
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>>144403789
It's literally just because of Balthasar Gelt that I can't already autoresolve it, I just want to end this campaign already because it's not interesting at the point where you are just wiping up the remaining enemies with your armies. But no, they rig the autoresolve bar to give you a shit chance if you're up against an LL, because they want you to have ebin legendary battles.
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>>144404062
>I just want to end this campaign already because it's not interesting at the point where you are just wiping up the remaining enemies with your armies.

If you aren't having fun stop fucking playing you dumbass. What is wrong with you? No one is "forcing" you to play the game.

If you really find playing through an entire campaign to be so god damn taxing, time-consuming, and difficult for you go start a new campaign.
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>>144401452
those tats gotta be fake
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>>144404251
It's literally just the last 2% of the campaign that can drag on too long. I'd really rather not just suddenly quit when I have less than 10 turns left. There's nothing 'difficult' about it, that's the problem. It's like a post-credits scene of the heroes eating cereal for 5 minutes.
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>>144403380

I play on ultra and I still have only seen Nehek rez 1 maybe 2 units of wraiths at once.
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