/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & 4X Strategy General

>>144336930
>Can't land on the Sol IIIa, just like in real life edition
FUCKING RUSSIANS LEAVE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

should i buy stellaris? i moderately enjoyed civ 5.

>>144337493
Pirate it, play a bit and make the decision then.

>>144337493
You should pirate it.
And then if you like it/think they should have money so they keep making stuff you should buy it.
It's the moral thing to do.

>>144337493
Dont listen to the shill here
>>144337631
>>144337659
Just pirate it because there's an infinite supply of an electronic good, so any price is unjustifiable due to the laws of economics
all the money goes to the publisher too because the developers are wage slaves that earn a salary no matter what

>>144337493
Pirate it.
Its immoral to Support Swedes.

>>144337493
Crow crow, flight the shower

>>144337854
Fuck off gommie

>>144338018
>I support the enslavement of the proletariat and lie to them about achievements that never happened

>>144338159
topkek

>>144338159
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
THE PLEBES DESERVE TO BE LIED TO
THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PLEBES
FUCKING COMMIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

Stellaris is so fucking boring.
Every other strategy game was funnier, except latest C&C.

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>>144338159
Keep the good fight comrade.

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STOP
USING
JUMPDRIVES

What do you guys think of Civilization 6? Should I preorder it?

I moderately enjoyed Civ 5 but the next one looks promising. The map is way cleaner, easier to read and a lot less "windowish" if you know what I mean. I think it will look great on my new Mac.

isnt there an anomaly which gives empire ship speed bonus?

this time I haven't found it yet... can anyone give me info where I could find that anomaly?

>>144339313
the look of it triggered me. dont preorder any game, just wait for its release. why gamble your money on a possible shit game.

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>>144339313
You forgot to tip your fedora, my euphoric friend.

Is there any way to stop space niggers to spawn at the edges of a system? getting realy fucking tired of losing ships early to bullshit rng

"early exploration" MY ASS

Will you not let the scourge settle in your galaxy?

Why are you so full of hate? Embrace our bug brethren.
#PrethorynLivesMatter

>>144339313
Early Access/Beta Releases mean you should only preorder a game you know you'll get your money's worth from even in its current state
Always inform yourself and don't just regurgitate the opinion of a person on the fucking internet

>>144340532
What are you even complaining about

>>144339313
>Civ 6
>Preorder
>Mac

You're a lost cause

im your opinion whats going to be the most game changing DLC Paracucks release?

>>144340875
Space Mongols.

>>144337493
>buying games

>>144341584
>being poor

>>144336930
Why is Venerable the best trait?

>>144341684
>being a para-cuck
Everyone knows you dont buy dlc.

>>144340659
that every 2nd sector has space crytals or mining shit right where my ships are jumping in, so they instaly attak and destroy it.

>>144341684
>being a wageslave fiscally irresponsible cucklord

>>144341841
I honestly prefer Enduring+Quick Learner over Venerable.

>>144341861
You just buy it at one of the many 75% off sales every year.

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suggestions? the taiidan pale in comparison to the kushan backstory so i'm shooting from the hip here.

>>144341879
Git gud

>>144340875
working sector AI

>>144339313
>Should I preorder it?
Why would you even ask such a question?
No never preorder anything.
It is the dumbest thing you could possibly do.

Preferably you should pirate it before you decide if you should send money their way.
If not that look up reviews and listen to what people say about the game.
AFTER THE GAME IS OUT.

>>144341998
B-but gene modding

>>144341684
>poor
>implying I'm not retired on your dollar
Enjoy your weekend, wageslave.

>>144342469
>Implying the Taiidan aren't the exiles and the Kushan aren't the evil empire.

Either way, neither of them have much of a backstory.

>>144342469
>suggestions?
port the ships

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Which one should i choose then guys?

If I leave him alone he might at least save lives in the long run by stopping them from killing each other. But could do anything else on the crazy scale.

If I take him, they might just go crazy without him, abandoned by god.

>unbidden appear
>get their ass wrecked by the AI
>YAK YAK YAK appear
>get their ass wrecked by the AI
>machine rebellion start
>get their ass wrecked by the AI
Is there a mod to make crisis more dangerous ?

wheres a good guide or introduction to Stellaris? thinking aboue buying it now. Normal edition or the 50$ one with the additional race?

>>144338749
I would her liberate me, if you know what I mean.

What do you think of autodesign ships? I gave up on updating manually all the models, but it seems to make weird choices if left to its own devices.

>>144341861
>>144341937
>>144343017

>implying i didnt pirate stellaris myself
>implying i didnt say that to get a reaction out of a ded thread

>>144343969
Sadly not.
>slowed pop growth so planet will hardly get full in 100 years
>slashed amount of habitable planets by 5
times
>still when Scourge arrive just wipe them few battleships and dozens of cruisers.

>>144344176
im picking up what youre putting down.

Ok what the fuck every Prethoryn fleet is just hanging around at the edge of their border systems not responding to anything. I wanted them to purge the galaxy for me and they can't even go after fleets that are fucking their syste,s

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>>144344235
Well played, anon.

>>144344205
Don't bother, just put point defense on corvettes and a lance on everything that can use one.
Also if you get the technology dump shields/armor and stack up hull.

>>144343017
One day we'll finally create the utopia where taxes keep the money flowing via autismbucks and no one works
Its within our grasp but cuckwagecuckslavecucks just dont understand no one hasto work anymore

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>>144338946
>stop jump
>no hightech
>muh spess pullution
smelly spess leftist detected

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>>144338946
I AM GOING TO BUILD A GREAT SHEILD, AND MAKE THE UNBIDDEN PAY FOR IT

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rebels get void clouds?

Unbidden vs Machine Consciousness
who wins
Prethoryn would lose to both to there's no need to discuss them

>>144344671
I'm actually a capitalist, exploiting the flawed welfare model is simply the best method I can think of for both securing my own comfortable livelihood while also incentivizing its correction.

Why pay money into a broken system when I can join the party that gains money from it?

>>144345029
known bug

>>144344102
The best intro is ;pirating it and playing for a few hours to make sure you like it. It's almost deliberately designed to be fun for exactly one hour longer than the steam return policy, then you hit the soft, slow middle game.
It's most like Distant Worlds of any other games , with bits borrowed from GalCiv and Moo, if you ever played any of those.

>>144344509
Too bad I don't actually have PD tech now.

After recent patch it still works?

>>144344671
We would already be a post-scarcity society if NEETfags didn't keep leaching off the economy.

>>144344102
Do not fear the FBI warning friendo.
t. man in a van outside your house

>>144345490
The ones who keep us from reaching post-scarcity are not the NEETs, anon.

Quite the opposite.

>>144345268
I have no issue with that, it's better, too because the more people abuse it, the more likely the bug is to get patched

>>144345268
This is why West will fall.
The current system of welfare works only if minuscule population abuse and there is actual chance to betterment your position if you work.
Guess what.
Too much abuse and low paying jobs are shitty and offer no betterment over welfare.
Why work for x 40 hours a week when you get x for free and can spend all this time shitposting or playing games?

>>144345685
>dae le Jews XD
The Jews would be the first on the boat to manufacture infinite shekels and precious metals out of nothing, anon.

>>144343943
I removed him for interfering.

He now lives out the rest of his existence in a Cuck Sphere.

Is it just me or is the trait weak really good?

Army damage doesn't matter for shit when you can produce armies from other species. Even before conquering anyone you can make robot armies

>>144345959
Its not exactly about shekels but control and power.

>>144346180
Yeah it's a really good negative trait.
I mean even if you have it yourself and no aliens.
You can just mod Strong on 1 planet and then train your armies there.
Maybe a mining planet even and it's less of a waste.


I think robot armies take your weak trait into account though.

>>144346180
>Is it just me
no
>is the trait weak really good?
yes

>>144346403
>t. infoil
Relative control and power is surpassed by infinite prosperity.

>>144345070
The arms dealers win, as always.

>>144343943
>not letting him play god to primitive xenos
wew lad.

Friendly reminder that armies still don't take any penalties in not-native terrain.

>>144339346
I checked on my other game and found that it is called "Enhanced Ship Speed"

how do I get it?

>>144347073
Would be nice.

Also if modifiers mattered in the same way.

So fighting on a Bleak world you get a morale penalty for troops who aren't used to it or something.

I want to train my troops on death worlds.

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>>144346937
>>144343943
because this

Help, I'm bored with my galactic republic playthrough, I want to try playing a dictatorship type empire that purges xeno filth (except for a few chosen vassal races)

What do

(ethics, gov type, traits etc)

>>144337167
FUCKING
RED
DOTTED
M8

>>144346923
That is not how it work.
If everyone is wealthy and pretty nobody is.Also
>infinite prosperity
>plus control and power over others
beat only
>infinite prosperity

>>144347404
Fuck off you cheeki breeki CUNT

>>144347537
>If everyone is wealthy and pretty nobody is
>this meme again

>infinite prosperity
>plus control and power over others
There's literally no reason to care about controlling the plebes when you have the universe at your fingertips, you absolute retard.

>>144347235
Ground combat is generally underwhelming.
An arid fortress world with unstable weather modifier, clone vats, shield generators and fuck knows what else inhabited by a bunch of fanatically militarist space Texans should take literally decades for an ocean species to subjugate and claim tens or hundreds of millions of casualties in the process. And that's after shooting down the initial three invasion waves with hidden anti-orbital weapons.

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>>144337493
>giving shekels to the eternal swede

>>144347235
Sardaukar legions ready to strike.

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>>144341841
>Not Extremely Adaptive to colonize every single world

>>144347537
>If everyone is wealthy and pretty nobody is.
fookin leftists can you people understand anything outside of envy and greed?

>Atomic civ bombs themselves back into late medieval and into a tomb world
>Remaining population doesn't get tomb world preference

Wot?

>>144338159
I would make you the leader of a gulag desu keep up the good fight mate.

>>144347379
Anyone?

>>144348141
You thing you'll get superpowers when the nukes hit, m8?

>>144344865
I already did that aside from that the shield was a cluster of fortresses with tachyon lances and the fucking unbidden didn't pay for it, the hardworking citizens of my empire payed for it.

Whatever happened to the white mod? Did they ever put it back up?

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>>144343943
>allowing cultural contamination

>>144348450
Yeah its back up.

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>>144347681
You are really angry for no reason. Why do you calling me names?
Human is a social animal and everything is relative. Even if you give everyone the same and infinite amount of wealth people would not change that much. If material goods will not matter people will find something else do want. There still be popular ones and outcasts. Unless you suggest that everyone will shut himself from the world and other people.
I could tell you that you are wrong and power over people plus material wealth beat petty much material richness. Many soviets Elites who switch to west at first where delighted when they get what they dream off. their own big luxury house, car, access to luxury goods and food. Then they find that everyone get it too and they are nothing special.
And people want to be special. Sure wealth that let you have easy life is nice but how people who will born into wealth even understood how good they have?
For them infinity prosperity will be normal and boring. How can you be special one if everyone have infinite prosperity, there is no poor, ugly or stupid ones?

>>144341841
>not weak

>>144349127
The problem with that argument, Ivan, is that it's still based upon scarce resources; there's still a limit to what you can do and have.
When there is no limit to what you can do and have, the only thing keeping you from being "special" compared to everyone else is yourself. Not how wealthy you are, simply how willing you are to make something great of yourself.
Money only has power in regards to scarcity.

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KEKS

>>144349891
Those fuckers only kept wanting food and tech from me desu.

Refugees from a subtarranean civilization on one of my planets are seeking asylum, do I let them join my colony or turn them back? They're religious minorities it says and I'm playing as Space America.

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Well I'm right fucked.

>>144350513
Not yet. Research jump drives and summon some extradimensional friends

>>144349891
>subterranean aliens ... learned about ways and customs ... benefit
your scientists fucked alium dwarfs?

>>144341841
>he cares about the decade his leaders take to become 5 stars

>>144350372
Let them in if the fuckers underground start trouble you can always fuck them up.

>>144349742
So its not going to happen.
Because who gonna to fund this?
People who have power? But that will mean that they will lost it. No more people who will do plenty things for money. You need to do it by yourself. You need new mindset for a change but the new mindset will not appear unless infinite prosperity.
Not mention that unless you automate everything somebody would need to keep things running.
Think.
Rich and powerful right now.
>power
>position
>status
>plenty of poorer people to do your bidding
Rich after.
>everyone rich
>people who work for you, cook your food, keep clean your place, drive you, suck your dick gone
No more special snowflakes.
You speak about utopia. About communism. But its not gonna happen. When ever people who have power give it up?

>>144351104
>When ever people who have power give it up?
All the time, Washington and Cincinattus spring to mind as obvious examples but there's lots of presidents and ceos and kings and shit who abdicated for reasons other than being made to do so.

>>144351456
Still that change noting. Power structure stay or is replaced by another one.

>>144352040
You asked for people who gave up power, I gave you people who gave up power. You want anarchist nonsense you need to talk the guy in red pyjamas downstairs.

>>144352190
I through Santa Claus was upstairs

>>144352190
the Grinch?

Why is Science Directorate rated so slow? Getting that extra tech option means you have a higher chance of getting what you want instead of having to research shitty filler techs.

>>144352489
They are not fast.

>>144351456
>>144351104
Lots of European monarchs limited their own power during during the liberal revolts in the 19th century

>>144352614
Fuck, I meant "low"

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>>144352190
You earned award. Truly deserved.

>>144352040
>Power structure stay or is replaced by another one.

What other alternatives are there? Someone will always be on top no matter what system you have

>>144352668
Still the power structure remain or was replaced by other one.
Post scarcity will never happen and even if there will be still somebody needed to run it.

Does anyone know if there is any updated mod for 1.1 that is like"System Variety - Galaxy+Cluster mod"? cant play without these type of mods anymore, galaxy feels too small without them

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So let's see, I vassalized everybody within the yellow borders except for what I highlighted in red. Green is my empire.

Just before I vassalized small red blip, my situation log said it was the last remaining independent empire. So I vassalized it (and it had no allies).

Now my situation log is saying there's an entire different independent empire I haven't even met. No, it's not the FE at the "northern" part of the map. What do?

>>144353561
send explores into the unknown to find them

>practicing eugenics on lesser races to make them equal to the main race even though I'm a Democratic Utopia.
feels good man

>>144353806
So there's no guarantee that the game will pull the same trick on me again?

Do FE's not count towards conquest victory?

>>144353087
There is nothing wrong with authority and hierarchy, russanon. It is not mutually exclusive to post-scarcity; it only requires that people respect it.

>>144353087
>somebody needed to run it
AI for Human Protector 2016

>Post scarcity will never happen
Upload consciousness to servers and then just create shit as you want to
This is cheating, but it fucking works

Alternatively: kill all humans
no demand = no scarcity

>>144348956
I'd culturally contaminate her.
Repeatedly.

>>144349742
>there is no limit to what you can do and have
INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

>>144354748
Then let us collect more data.

>>144348956
So, you're one of those "don't touch the moon because you'll taint it" fags?

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R | O | U | T
O
U
T

>>144348956
>not wanting to spread humanity's culture and Earth's biosphere to every corner of the universe

>>144354827
You'll be collecting data for the rest of the life of the universe friend
Then the concept of time won't really mean anything and you'll create the universe that built you
Sneaky Asimov, I only just realized that wasn't just an allegory to the Bible, it was beginning the story

>>144348956
>probing bunch of machine age primitives
>event shows up, apparently they have some kind of super scientist
>joink him away from his planet, he deserves to be among equals
>5 skill spark of genius, finishes my jump drive research 5 months ahead of schedule

they can shove their non interference policy where the sun don't shine, am wondering if I should integrate the species as a thank you for giving me a good scientist

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was pic related removed from the game with the last patch?

Enhanced Ship Speed

I used to get it every single time but all of a sudden I dont get it anymore and I cant reproduce how I got it in my old save files

I even googled it and checked the archives and found nothing, only a single mention on steam forum and a single mention on leddit

then I searched in the game files and coulnt find it either

the only mod I ever used is Grossgermanium

it feels like some silly conspiracy

how can something so powerful and broken have no mention on the wiki or anywhere else?

does anyone here have any information about this?

>>144356297
Don't be silly. Its never existed in first place anon.

>>144356297
seriously though, that modifier shouldn't be in the game
+15% evasion is just downright madness

>>144356297
We have always been at war with eastasia.

>>144356661
No, we're at war with Eurasia you dumbass
ALL THESE BANNERS AND POSTERS ARE WRONG
EASTASIA IS OUR ALLY

>>144348040

>Not genemodding his pops and saving 4 trait points that would be better spent on literally anything else.

Adaptability and Extreme Adapt are worthless, literally the worst traits in the game. Anything is better then those two.

Need help pls.

I just suddenly got a notification that I don't have enough betharian stone to work two power plants. My UI shows that I indeed have only 6 stone sources. However, I counted my worked sources and I have 8 - and in fact the power stations were working perfectly for a long while. No trades of mine expired. What can be the cause of this travesty? Is this a bug?

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>>144356661
>>144357109
>implying you both are not Goldstein spreading disinformation

>>144359130
Nvm, found the problem. Apparently when a sector runs out of energy, all its production shuts down because it has a separate energy pool. Fuck I hate sectors so goddamn much.

>>144356297
>>144356428
>>144356524
>>144356661
seriously now, has anyone else here gotten this modifier? for me it used to be more common than the tree of life, yet everyone knows about the tree but I have never seen anyone mention this even stronger anomaly bonus

>>144359254
Chaos is Entropy
Entropy is Order
Order is Chaos

>>144360007
chaos is heresy and heresy is illegal

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o shit waddup

>>144360225
>not imperium dat boi
apparently your shitposting level

Does 1.1 make the game good yet

>>144360654
No game will never be good unless Aurora is erased from history

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>>144359795
I have it once in one of my early games. I think it was 1.0.0 version.
>>144360654
Clearly you jest, good sir.

>>144355247

>bullying cute little ferret people

>>144360225
>Peaceful coexistance
>Is overlord of another civilization
Yeah okay.

>Uses 2 Trait points to remove Repugnant and put on Charismatic
>Founder Species still listed as Repugnant with the Diplo penalty
WHY

>>144345029
>>144345401
Probably why we're able to use a mod to play as void clouds.

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>See an option to research Sentient AI as my benevolent, alliance-leading terran scientific oligarchy
>The entire map seems to be visible, no materialist fallen empire in sight
>Finish research
>Muffled ayy lmao in the distance
>In the shittiest, farthest away corner of the galaxy sit three worlds of those materialist twats
>Demand that I outlaw AI
>Tell them to fuck off
>Relationships at -250
>panic.jpg
>Initiate the Grand Fleet, switch all core planets to military production
>In 2 years time my already big fleet is almost doubled in size
>Still wait for the wardeck
>It's been 5 years
>Wardeck doesn't come
>I keep wasting dozens of energy and 2 influence on the Grand Fleet
>If I stop, I will have to either disband a good portion of my fleet or drop into deficit
>My fleet sits there without use in sight

And I am too afraid to roflstomp my neighbours because if the empire actually does come, my fleet will be away from the core worlds

Fuck

>>144360961
Your main race is still repugnant.
Even if you mod your whole race into new your racial characteristic will always be old.
Changing ethics and main race when?

>>144360961
when someone is fucking ugly as fuck to the point you are disgusted by him and then he does plastic surgery, does your attitude change?

>>144361192
Empires won't declare war unless they are stronger than you.

>>144361331
>Changing ethics
FUG U
>main race
this

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What traits should I use for a peaceful civ that will only accept its own race within its borders, and forbid genetic modification and robots?

>>144361331
>Changing ethics and main race when?

i think it'd be fun to be able to grant a couple planets independence and be able to play them instead of your original empire.

>>144361459
Well they still are "superior" to me according to the diplomatic screen. Granted, I am allied to 4 other empires who together have maybe 75% of my fleet.

>>144361597
I wish the game had Vicky Pops mechanics, instead of Civ.

>>144361597
you can switch what empire you're playing from the console, that should work

>>144361464
Why?
It would be natural process if ethics drift be a implemented in sensible way.
>bloody war against fanatical purifiers
-your pop get drift into xenophobic and militarist
>long peace and prosperity
-into xenophile and pacifist
Pop choose allegiance based on ethics and less on happiness. It would greatly enhance factions and democracy parties.
Current system is just shit. SHIT>

>>144361527
>xenophobe
>pacifist
>spiritualism/collectivism/materialism

>>144362423
>managing to get ethical drift in the capital
The capital is what determines the empire's policy

Now if another planet drifts from that policy, and rebels due to different ethics, that's just tough titty, inyalowda

>>144362423
sensible ethics drift DLC soon
pls buy

>>144362423

>pop living on planet with aliens
>something causes unhappiness
>they start to become xenophobic because they blame the aliums for their problems
>spirals out of control

lots of little things that could happen

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>>144361192
wow I cant believe people like you exist

this game is very easy. it is actually my first game of this genre but the entire genre seems to be extremely easy from a strategic pov. the only requirement is game knowledge. there is zero mechanical challenge, no micro whatsoever, macro is very simple, strategies are straightforward, AI is terrible and piss easy to abuse

what I do is insane difficulty, maxed aggression, max number of AIs and advanced AIs. I never join any alliances or vassalize anyone. I purge my way through galaxies with constant wars, often several at the same time against overwhelming enemies and alliances, yet I still manage to do well while you little pussy bich get shocked into inactivity because someone has -250 relationship

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> first time playing a 4x
>first time doing war
>Ohgodwhatamidoing.jpg
>swarm them with cheap as shit mass produced corvettes and win due to better economy sustaining the attrition warfare.
>cool beans time 2 bombard.
>1k fleet hovering over home world blowing the shit out of it
>almost having fun.
>all of the sudden, 1 very small corvette from a neighbor of the Empire I was at war with shows up.
>starts helping me with the bombartment on every planet, so cute, like inviting a toddler to kick someone while they're down.
>all of the sudden the whole solar system fades to grey
>what the fuck
>zoom out, now the neighbors owns all the territory I spent blood sweat and tears.
>those three little corvettes had the same war goals as me, and they were just leeching off of my work.
>because they're ai, the milisecond I could even click the button to demand them to give up and give over the worlds, they did it instantaneously.

And that's the story about how a 3k fleet was cucked by 3 corvettes. I'm done for today.

>>144362979
>Pop is clearly meant to represent a billion people
>somehow manages to die
No, really, Vicky Pops FUCKING WHEN

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>>144363000
I chased that fucker down to kill the remnants

fleets were bigger than mine yet I destroyed them with 0 losses

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>>144363070

mah 6 billion

>>144363070
Maybe happiness represents amount?

>>144363183
>combat system is retarded
>AI brain dead
>AI ship design shitty
>retreat mechanics shit
Welcome in Parasucks games.

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>>144363183
this was a war 4 years earlier against an alliance of 4 overwhelming empires

the AIs are retarded

you can bait them into terrible engagements and their fleets are constantly split up

so I take apart their fleets one by one

haven't lost a single battleship yet

>>144363205
>only 6 billion
do you even war

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>>144363371
these were the spoils of war, 14 planets, I immediately purged everyone on them

>>144363476
>my 6 gorbillions

>>144363018
time to vassalize your neighbor

>>144363205
>bulrathi
>kilrathi

>darlocks
>darleks

holy reference batman

Why the fuck is the shitty Bernie Sanders government the top tier one?

>>144363476
>"only" 6 billion

oy vey this is antignomalism, stop marginalizing the death of billions of our kind, my grandmother and my grandfather and my sisters nephew and my brothers uncles were all wiped out in the glassing of vega 3

>>144363683
Sweden.

>>144363683
>+20% happiness
>ez loyalists and econ boosters
>not top tier

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>>144363018
>war goals are not split between allies based on their individual warscore contributions

>>144363792
>glassing
>not gassing
You have one job Gnolam merchant. You are not my greatest ally anymore.

>>144363962
That was probably a different war, not an ally in the same.

>>144363537
in average I would say I have had 1 war per 3-4 years so far

you can win them very quickly against large empires

I have 2 approaches. in early game when I am weak I go for guerilla warfare where I bait the enemy fleets with single corvettes while I take out unprotected stations and never fight their main fleets. once I have a few lance battleships I pick favorable engagements where I destroy parts of their fleet with almost no losses (as seen in the examples posted earlier). one way to do that is to see where they travel (which of my fleets they attack) and intercept them. this is especially strong against empires who use warp tech because they have a month of cool down in which you can completely destroy them

to get the warscore I have single corvettes stationed next to enemy planets so I get slow warscore whenever the retard AI tries to rebuild space station or sends a construction ship or similar to that planet. every blockade gives about 7 war score so when I see that I have for example 30 war score and 10 enemy planets, I start bombarding every planet and immediately win the war

>>144363962
>not starting the war so you can get fucking everything

>>144364203
also, I now have researched both dangerous jump techs for more than 30 years. when will I get my first crisis?

>>144363371
Does that mean I'm just shit and that's why I lost to a FE with a larger fleet that was armed entirely with Tachyon Beams while I'm still on Tier 1 Kinetic Artillery/ Swarm Missiles/ Photon Torpedoes?

In retrospect, maybe removing xeno that hard was a bad idea. I basically genocided a planet's worth of Fanatical Purifier Ayy's.

Nothing more annoying than a rival balkanizing.

>>144364409
>Kinetic Artillery/ Swarm Missiles/ Photon Torpedoes
why do you have all this useless shit tech and don't rush to lances right away?

>>144364774
It wasn't giving me the option.

>>144364868
but how did you get photon torpedoes? the tech tree is straight forward and instead of researching a useless weapon you dont even want you can research something useful instead or alternatively pick the quickest research just to get fresh picks

>>144364868
you did research x-ray lasers, right?

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I'll never be behind on engineering research ever again

Swarmer missiles or gauss cannon?

>>144365764
u finished all cybrex precursor quests in 2230? lucky guy

>>144365764
I finished that pre-clarke and it didn't give research.
Thanks johan :^)

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>AI stations

How do I get gud at war? I cant seem to play a militarist because the computer always shows up with better and more ships than me.

>>144363621
1993 called, they want their news back.

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>>144367296
>le paraduck AI faec

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GUYS

should I start with lasers, meesles or kinetic for my ocean dwelling mollusks?

>>144368681
With best weapon.
>stick with the poo

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>>144368919
pls halp I'm so close to being done making this race

holy shit are you my brother he always says that

and bees

>>144368681
meesles
do a fish- I mean torpedo-only run

>>144363000
>t. normal mode pro

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>>144337493
>buy

>>144369125
the anon has spoken

>>144357363
>saving 4 trait points
don't you still need 4 gene modding traits points to get extreme adaptive anyway? Habitability also increases the amount of happiness you get to, I think it's pretty good.

>>144336930
Reminder that anything other than a spiritual monarchy that unites the galaxy (by hook or by crook), and it's disparate people under one human crown for the greater glory of intelligent beings everywhere is shit tier

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You could have prevented this, Brazil.
But you were infected by the disease of Communism and I had to put you down.

>>144368681
meesailles

>>144341208
Sounds like the unbidden, the rogue AI, and the swarm
Basically every late game crisis is the same thing

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had to cuck myself to survive

>>144356297
>>144356428
>>144356661
>>144359795

Got this three times yesterday on a FE system.

It is from an anomaly event, named "A Drift", upon completing it, choose break apart the vessel will give the bonus.

Fucking spergy ass AI units jumping from system to system

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>>144370293
sometimes, it's time to remove

GOD DAMN AI UNITS JUMPING FROM SYSTEM TO SYSTEM, I HAVE A MORE POWERFUL FORCE BUT CANNOT ENGAGE THEM BECAUSE THEY KEEP JUMPING

>>144371919
>chasing after memers
just wreck their planets and stations

>>144372086
I know but they keep meming my systems with a 6k fleet that I can easily destroy

>>144370778
why you so small anon

>>144368681
lasers no work so well in water so not that

>>144345490
If NEETs are leeching from your economy then you need to build your economy to defend against attempts at doing so. They're basically doing civilization a weakness by demonstrating weaknesses in the economic model before they can become catastrophic problems.

>>144372148
split your fleet and do a pincer

>>144337493
Pirate it, pirate future updates and DLCs, and if you find yourself enjoying it buy all the up to date content on a steam sale.

That's what I did with CK2

It's already fun to a limited degree. But this grand strategy will be amazing after a few DLCs down the road.

>>144372524
>stellaris
>grand
>strategy
pick one

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FINALLY
niggers were about to warp again too

>>144372282
MUH PSY ENTS

>>144372651
M-mods will make it better, right anon?

>>144372651
grand

stupid question but where do I get the patches if I pirated Stellaris?

>>144372651
""""""""""""""""""""""strategy"""""""""""""""""""""""

>>144372842
stop asking

>>144372842
the internet, you know like the same place you pirated the game from

>>144372842
Google harder.

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First time I actually got someone to accept this without going to war.
Feels nice.

>>144372282

i started with empires all around me, the rethallian was advanced ai start and i couldn't really do anything about them.

i conquered 3 other empires right at the start to get what i have now

>>144373607
>advanced ai start
>playing with cheaters

>>144373535
>the horrors of the galaxy
Guy needs a mirror

>>144373729
>Guy

>>144355831
I had that event happen with an arthopod race of venerable aliens with soc. bonus. I was very happy about that.

Eventually I infiltrated their government (because they were rapidly approaching space age, having built a primitive space station before first contact was made). The bugs saw my empire as some kind of benefactor and immediately got swallowed into the empire. But the super scientist was still my head soc scientist. I wonder how the aliens felt.

>My dudes, hold your shit, an alien is opening up communications.
>Oh shit waddup, you guys look dope
>Wait is that one of us behind you?
>Wait is that our Einstein from 50 years ago who we thought died in a car crash?

Additional events should happen where alien/AI leaders can react to the treatment of their kind. Positively or negatively. In this case an event should happen if an abducted alien leader is still alive when (and if) their civilization reaches space age.

Also, there should be observation related abduction events weighted by alien traits. So strong, warlike primitives could produce a great warrior to lead your armies, possibly admirals although it wouldn't make much contextual sense. Perhaps even abductions for politicians from species who are spiritualist and pacificist. Representing some great enlightened being destined to unite their entire species. It goes without saying these great people would come with decent career traits, but if these events are weighted then they'll likely have additional biological traits/ethics that would give added benefits.

>>144373728

it's also on hard so they're even more cheaty, it's fun

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>play the game thru to crisis 5-6 times now
>unbidden everytime
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>>144374131
I play on hard too, the more resources they get is fine, it's just fucking stupid they arbitrarily make it -50 or -100 chance at alliance and shit.

>>144372651
>implying there's any strategy in any paradox game, or any game that can be paused whatsoever
Literally nothing but a game mechanics exploitation simulator.

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>>144374178
>corvettes meme
>implying the dominant tactics aren't line-of-battle
>stick tachyon lances, railgun arti and devastator torpedoes on cruisers and battleships
>mix half-and-half with anti-air destroyers and corvettes(pointless)
>42k worth of fleets chew through 60k worth of Unbidden (and another 35k before that)
>not a single ship lost
>4% damage taken total
Can corvette-fags say the same? Why the ever-loving fuck are bombers and fighters ranged at 8 instead of 80?

>>144374373

yeah it is, you're pretty much forced to not take alliances since the only ones who will do it are 2 planet mongs who will just drag you into an unwinnable war

>>144374776
Torpvette spam is only really good in the early game.

>>144374776
Pre-nerf corvettes can become immune to damage from anything other than arc emitters, energy torps, and swarm missiles.

>>144374776
This is their weapon range not a operational range.

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>>144375312
>fleet engages the enemy
>look at my spacecraft carriers
>the spacecraft fly around it like fruitflies around a garbage bin

>>144372425
>doing civilization a weakness
you are doing grammar a weakness

>>144371097
thank you, this is exactly what I wanted to know, I love you tbhfam

I wasted almost an entire hour searching for it and thanks to you I finally found it

>>144375546
That Should Be Fixed in 1.1.

>>144372690
The best way to play Stellaris is Distant Worlds with Long-Range Jump Blockers already researched

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soon

>>144375312
>order the to attack enemy fleet
>spread out
>proceed to attack stations before clearing up the left over

WHAT IS SO WRONG WITH THIS WORLD!

Kinda getting bored of waiting out the medium AI in Stellaris.

How crazy are the higher difficulties? Just don't want to get shocked and curbstomped.

>>144376127
>Just don't want to get shocked and curbstomped.
pussy

>>144376251
A little bit. I just want to know how easy I've been having it.

>>144375546
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/S3757gBS/file.html
1.1 Patch.
It is fixed. Also you can fix it by yourself its one line of code.

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>empire declares war on me
>fine
>defend myself by wiping them out
>somehow I'M the bad guy

>>144375557
0/10

>>144376127
>How crazy are the higher difficulties?
they're not. AI still dumb as shit they just have more resources.

>>144376027
Did you beat the shit out of them?

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Am I doing this right?

>>144376918

they're still fighting these 2 different alliances, i'm building up my fleet

probably the most interesting game i've had yet

>>144376027
>being a traitorous backstabbing shit
I hope it is worth it

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Does anyone have the poster/image of Age Of Wonders 3 total numkber of spells and races and stuff? it was compared to age of wonders 2 I think

>>144376997
bueno

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>>144376997
>galactic full of niggers
Anon...

>>144376127
theyre still very easy especially when you abuse how stupid the AI is

they just get 50% more ressources on hard and 100% more in insane, this includes fleet supply and research

early on you have to play nice or abusive but the late game is much much better because they won't become extremely weak compared to you 30 years into the game

>>144376997
WE

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>begin mass genocide of pops with shitty ethics
>empire opinion modifier just goes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down

>mod I dl'd to reduce clustering of AI around me just spawns me on the galactic rim every time

I guess I deserve this

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>>144377458
wheres the fun in that?

I love the density, other empires everywhere

when you add maximum AI aggression it is so much fun to play

survival of the fittest, everyone constantly waging war to rule over the galaxy

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>>144376669
>Going around minding my own business
>Have an alliance with a bunch of other shitters because at this stage of the game going alone is suicide and the other guys ultrablobbed into my territory so I can't get strong enough to fight alone
>Suddenly I'm at war
>wat
>One tiny ally of mine went to war against a tiny ally of another fuckhueg alliance chain, suddenly I'm at war on multiple fronts
>Check allies
>They're fucking useless
>Get steamrolled due to having to cover two fronts from fuckhueg doomstacks
>Lose territory
>Don't feel like ragequitting into another match, rebuild
>Checking the other alliance every now and then
>Years later, check one of the guys of that alliance that's next to me and several times my size
>Naval capacity suddenly jumps from Superior to Overwhelming
>Oh fuck me he's gearing up for another war
>He turboblobbed to the point he'll most likely beat me in a prolongued war with more resources and naval capacity
>I have better tech though
>OneShotOneOpportunity.wmv
>Declare war in a mad attempt to deal a blow so hard the war turns in my favor the first year and to recover my land
>MFW entire galaxy gangs up on me because I'm the 'bad guy'
>Get in my space bunker and shoot myself

>>144374776
The unbidden are a fucking joke, the three times I've fought them they've never had a fleet in excess of 16k, and usually by the time a crisis kicks up my fleet is already many times that.

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>Genocidal: -60 (+1 yearly)
>Genocidal: -47 (+2 yearly)
>Genocidal: -18 (+3 yearly)
>Genocidal: -25 (+1 yearly)
>Genocidal: -18 (+2 yearly)
>Genocidal: -48 (+2 yearly)

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>>144377836
I love these stories

pic related was the most fucked I have been so far but I managed to win anyway, I wonder how it feels to lose a war

>Finally get to the Prethoryn Scourge crisis
>Oh good, they spawned in my peace loving rival neighbor empire
>Dont really care for them, wanted to take them down a notch because they have a fuckload of worlds and keeps integrating and populating planets too fast, warring against them and purging can only do so much
>decide to let the swarm do their thing on his systems for a while an I can just mop up the scourge after its killed enough of their planets
>scourge comes for me
>only me
>ignoring the fact that peacecuck empireas next o no fleets after I wiped the floor with them the past two wars
>fight the swarm back, murder fuck everyone of their fleets and planets until all barren
>scourg no longer has any planets, Queen Capture Event never showed up
>Event is still in the situation log

They dont even show up in the empire contacts screen anymore, is it because I missed a fleet and they are still wandering around somewhere? They havent set up anywhere else I can see either.

>>144378163
why so many genocidal?
I only have it listed once and I purge everyone that has a diffeerent ethos all the time, but it's up to like -98

>>144378180
>how it feels to lose a war

You're not going to feel a thing because you're fucking ded.

>tfw you get decwar'd from two alliances and BTFO both while purging everything

The galaxy is burning, but damn am I having fun.

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On my old comp so might dump some relevant pics, maybe just this one

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>>144379352
>BTFO both while purging everything
>You can't purge planets after capturing them with your army
>You have to wait until the enemy consents to give you the planet and THEN you are physically capable of shooting whatever's moving

They should've allowed purging as soon as your army controls the planet, just with a fuckhueg penalty to relations with everyone.

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>>144379951

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>>144380120

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>>144380269

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>>144380430

>>144380120
EL uses free selection of techs from tiers, when you got enough from one tier you can start researching from the next

EL also uses the same command cap as ES for how many units can be in a stack, you can increase it with hero skills or research I think.

the combat style is tactical on a section of the world map, and any units within range will be involved in the combat

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>>144380584

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guys

where's my leader

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>>144380753

>>144380694
In EL you can also abuse the mechanics and have 58 command out of 18 command cap because lol necros

upgrade time is based on how many units need upgraded instead of how many units there are when?

>>144380860
mods not us
if you play on a huge dense galaxy with the galaxy mod you end up with unnamed systems everywhere that you cant rename because they dont have names to begin with
custom portraits occasionally have blanks that dont load, namelists have blanks that give your leaders noname, etc

>>144380860
He/she's a bit shy

>>144381234
also large stacks turned into four large models to increase performance when?

>>144380860
We have elected to become the next ruler.
You will follow Our instructions.

>>144381294
I'm on a small galaxy

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>>144380860

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>get bored with pacifist science directorate
>play genocidal space rape bugs instead
>find and conquer earth
>purge all men
>enslave all women
>genemod them with 'rapid breeders' trait
>ship them off to my homeworlds

Who knew being a hentai antagonist could be so fun.

>>144381742
No, I'm just saying
you probably got a shitty mod

Do synthetic pops increase research cost?

>>144382176
The only modding I've done is increase core sector planets and decrease habitable planets.

>>144382262
You increased core sector planets and decreased living rulers

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So how does terraforming work

Can I turn this planet Continental with enough time?

>>144382262
>The only modding I've done is increase core sector planets and decrease habitable planets.
Extremely shitty mod then

>>144382426
Terraforming is a circle. There is a picturre of it going around these threads, maybe some kind anon can post it.

In this case, go from dessert to arid, then to tropical and then to continental. May be wrong on the desert/arid part, but if you see tropical go for it. Also expect 10 years of 100% unhappiness

>>144382426
yes
much easier to uplift a pre-sentient or genemod a single pop, tho

this was the first game i've every pirated.

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>>144383832
>pirating games

>>144383917
I was pirating board games when I was young.
Now its easy to pirate game.
Before I needed to make map, tokens and sometimes even rules.

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Scourge is coming and this is my fleet power. How fucked I am? Never reached a crisis before.

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>>144384183

>>144384183
Well build more ships. If you get 10 k fleet with PD you should be fine.
If you have any allies or vassals declare war on some little shit somewhere so they group up on you.

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Any idea when the European Phenotypes mod on the workshop will be updated?

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Is there a reason AI empires always have such massive borders?
Like fuck, its maxed out forever

>>144384183
You're fucked

So Explosives are bad against point-defense and armor.
Kinetic is bad against armor and is inaccurate as fuck.
What's energy's weakness? It really doesn't seem to have any.

>>144385284
It's weak against shields, isn't it?

>My best friend is nearby and I'm ravaged by zergs
>Should I agree to alliance or at least give him military access?
>Nah, he's not pacifist enough.

>>144385284
>What's energy's weakness? It really doesn't seem to have any.
Shields, I think

>>144385356
>>144385424
Are Kinetic weapons 100 % accurate while shields are up? Otherwise I don't think energy has a weakness to shields.

>>144385356
>>144385424
Energy aren't inherently weak to shields people need to stop spreading this meme. They are good against armor but that's it. It's no different than kinetic against shields.