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>literally giving attention to shitposters in OP
Wew, epic job you cuntfuck

Nerds

>>144255227
exactly dude

>>144255089
>he thinks he can trust with cynos
Do you even play this game? People would sell their mother to get on a jf/super killmail.

Removing multiboxing doesn't fix any issues, and creates tons more issues

fucking retards want to delete that shit

Nice thread Kevin

>>>/g/54882313

>>144255161
who is the shitposters?
you do know multiboxing is legal right and the ones shitposting are the puritan 1 account poorfags or do you mean cursefags?

>>144255375
hey fuck you man
I'm making this dumb ded game threads from a phone

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>>144255375
is this an accident, or is it high-level shitposting

>>144255404
Both of them. Stop giving them attention.

ya niggas is playing on a dead game thanks to multiboxing. 2 sad to see ya niggas trying ya darnest by getting as many acounts aspossible to keep a sinking ship sink slower

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>>144255584
and do what?
go back to talking about amarr, lasers, amarr has no cap, gate campers and kiting mallers?

we haven't had a multibox discussion in a while, shitposting or not its a sort of fresh topic here

>>144255726
it takes more skill to multibox my fleet of alts against other peoples fleets of actual people

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what's your favourite maller fit? (pyfa only pls)

>>144255814
its probably dror

first its SP, then its P2W, then its multiboxing is bad

Reminder that using multiple alts in a fight still counts as 1v1.

>>144255726
it really doesnt matter at all.
>wahh i wont be the person with the most money in the game!
dont even need all that money. shit is cheap in this game. then you go out and actually pvp in it

>>144255990
multiple 1v1s :^)

>gallente

>>144255814
it is actually harder than it looks now without broadcasting.

try making 10 accounts, plex chaining them, movig then to jita and then to your home system, buy skillbooks for all 10, make a skillplan for all, buy implants for all, keep them all rolling and put together, provide logistics and links for them, and have controllig/setting them correctly.

Its a project, not just a walk in the park lmao just multiboxing here time to go rule the universe.

>goyellente
>amarr
>nigmatar
>calamari

>>144256194
>point at an asteroid and press F1 in every account

you got me anon, what a difficult gameplay you do

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>caldari

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kys

>>144256281
>repeat every 90s x10
>empty cargo every 2 cycles x10
I don't know why anyone does this shit, it sounds so fucking autistic

>>144256281
try handling the logistics for that.
the ore picking up, you will need a rorq for links or mining is useless, you will meed a freighter with a separate pilot, you will need to keep and eye on all pilots and keep their bays to not fill up while keeping them in range of the good stuff and also in range of the container tiercide for the freighter to pick up correctly.
You also need to set up a supply line and a seller in addition to a proper compression station or move it to Jita to lose millions.

I thought it was easy like you just mentioned but once I tried setup(just undocking and making the miners mine) took me over 30min on my first time.

This is assuming skiffs or procs, if you are gonna use hulks for real isk you are also gonna need a few more pilots to defend from rats and more than one freighter to bounce between 2 pockers of miners, or maybe more.

Plus scouts and eye open on whs.

ya, and now you see why CCP made a mistake by putting all their eggs in thinking multiboxing was ever a sustainable business model.

And now they can't backtrack otherwise nerds will freak the fuck out and cause something like monocle-gate again.

>>144257061
every other MMO has multibox capabilities

>>144257061
how am I supposed to move my jump freighter without multiboxing?

>>144255579
Someone posted a pokken tournament general thread on /mu/ the other day.

>>144257175
difference being in the other you get banned the fuck out immediately ya dum fug

>>144256792
Not to mention you are investing a considerable amount of money on pilots that take over 2 months to start """mining""", over 3 to do it effectivley and more than 4 for exhumers.

and you won't get to sell their extra sp until after the 5th month I think.

Which by the way might not even be worth in the future since multiboxing is also helping skill injectors to fall in price which is good for new players like all of you bitching about muh plex prices.

>>144257061
With all the shit CCP have done wrong and you had to go and say a 13yo game isn't sustainable

>>144257061
how many times do we have to tell you people? you cant get rid of it anyway.

this does not ruin eve for you. it ruins any game that multiboxing is profitable in. it essentially ruins GAMING for you.

>>144257467
No they don't because Blizzard and other pay MMO's can't prove you're the same person especially when you use two different names and two different paypals to pay for WoW

Don't ever think that multiboxing in other mmo's is "illegal" or what ever because its not, even if it was, not even two of the same IP would prove so

>>144257175
Every other MMO makes it a bannable offense. For the record griefing sometimes is too

>>144257343
read:

>CCP made a mistake by putting all their eggs in thinking multiboxing was ever a sustainable business model.

why do you think they came up with the shittest mechanics that cynoes are?

>hurrr let's make our players have to have alt accounts just for cynos otherwise they are idiots thinking they can trust their internet "friends"

>>144257467
multiboxing in most mmos is a gray area.
meaning you don't get banned as long as you don't use it for exploiting.
it is never a bannable on sight offense.
Maybe on korean mmos it is but who cares about those turds.

>>144257673
oh hey is it trust-issues anon again? did you lose your super yet, and would you like to see some screenshots of capital fleets travelling through stargates?

>>144257673
Cynos came before multiboxing was a real thing.

Creating MDlinks was always possible but it was rare to have it back in pre 2006

Your entire argument is completely null

>>144257941
WHAT???????????????????

>Cynos came before multiboxing was a real thing.

ded ass pham i stoppped right there u know jack shit, stay woke pham

ccp has been sort of reducing the amount of multiboxing you need to do though

EVE's skillpoints mechanic is terrible and should be removed.

>>144258126
>What? CCP didn't actually think or support multiboxing back on windows 2000 and Windows XP?

Thats right they didn't, they never had a policy or actual software support.

You had to create an mdlink between two installs of the game which allowed you to run two clients at once. You couldn't run more than one account on one launcher before.

>Used to be in pizza
>Come back after like years
>Don't even remember how to play
>Nobody trusts me
I don't get it.

>>144258379
well you left them. you might leave them again.

>>144258456
God forbid I take a break or real life happens.

who matigu seabeast here

>>144258253
too little too late IMO, Mboxing is just part of this game. Eve should've been long dead. Mboxing is basically keeping a comatose corpse alive.

>>144258379
Is this you https://zkillboard.com/character/94434721/

>>144258543
im not trying to justify their reason for you. im just giving you their reason.

>>144258592
the picture makes it looks sick as fuck
then ingame it looks dull as fuck
blue tiger is still the best

>>144258592

representin on my blackbird

i'm still torn cause i like blue tiger a lot

>>144258625
meant to quote this
>>144258202

>>144258639
Love it.

Who are you quoting?

>>144258714
I don't see blue tiger much, but your opinion seems to be non-shit

>>144258759
>blackbird

I thought you could only get it on raven caracal condor corax phoenix

>>144258592
Now we wait for Kaalakiota Rokh and Thukker hurricane.

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>>144259017

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>not multiboxing to impress a qt3.14 cosplayer girl to replace used old Reyni slut

>>144259017
>not nefantar typhoon

>>144258927

nope

minokawa, blackbird and one other i think, let me check

>>144259017
need thukker for every nigmatar ship and ccp can have all the money in my bank account

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>>144258927

>>144259240
>no cerberus skin
DROPPED

>>144259240
yes, but you can only actually get it for the ones I said, plus the minokawa

>>144259427
the list is incomplete, there's matigu seabeast skins for every caldari ship

cerb is megapleb btw unless it's ironic

>>144259636
ironically unironic

There is literally ONE Kaalakiota skin available. Fuck CCP.
And no Ishukone.

>Mfw a ccp dev arguing with players in leddit about why skins are so plain at this very second

>>144260187
>(
why don't you get it off aurum store?

>>144260212
so you dont have a face?

>leddit

pls

>>144260327
because he's a leddit shitter

where the rest of my khanid ship skins at

I'm la mad

kys

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>still no 10% cap reduction per level for the Sacrilege

do the shield compensation skills help the adaptive hardeners?

>>144260974
you need tactical shield manipulation

>>144260974
no

Why are autocannons so shit?

>>144261150
>>144261191
its kind of stupid how good the deadspace active invulns are. theres no reason to never use at least one if youre going to shield tank

Can you doomsday an Orca?

>>144261304
only mediums are shit
and they're shit because they have no range for their size, pulse and blasters have more optimal than the average medium AC falloff

>>144261304
Because they fire into falloff which means what ever your paper DPS is really heavily reduced at any range you fire at. Even though they have selectable damage, since your dps is less than other platforms further reduced by fall off, you're really coming out even with virtually no advantage at all

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>start Eve
>get told not to mine
>Get told not to mission
>get told not to rat
>get told to PvP
>no money to PvP

mfw fall for the "eve is real" meme

>>144261674
What is Faction Warfare?

>>144261469
>theres no reason to never use at least one if youre going to shield tank
people use active hardeners for shield all the time what are you talking about?

>>144261743
but the only point of that is missions. you cant just jump in and do missions in factional warfare

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>>144261674

>>144261674
>>get told to PvP
>>no money to PvP

You can do FW. You also don't have to listen to everything a bunch of anonymous, disagreeing retards tell you.

Mining is shit for newbros but anything else works for making money in general.

>>144261793
What is Planetary interaction?
What is Exploration?
What is Marketing?

Oh and FW missions are fine

>>144261780
i used a double negative. im just saying that the deadspace active invuln shields need to be nerfed. if that means shield tanking would suck, then the other modules would then need to be buffed, or shield tanking buffed in general. but right now, those deadspace actives are just too fucking good.

>>144261304
They got cucked by the TE nerf years ago

>>144261940
well the trade off is that armor plates are superior to shield extenders, also while armor has no active adaptive hardeners they do have reactive armor hardener which is similar in that it has omni resists

>>144260262
Because there aren't any other ones m8. Theres only one Kaalakiota skin and it's for a fucking golem of all things.

>>144262124
im saying that the deadspace active shield invuln hardeners are too good. at only 1 slot they provide ridiculous benefit compared to other modules attempting to do something similar.

>>144261940
They are also expensive and Pith eats mad cap.

>>144261940
shield tanks don't have omni-damage passive modules

>>144247851
>Player A buys a Condor, fits it with some tackle because that's what he was told.
>Player B buys a Tengu, fits it with deadspace stuff.
>Player B can't figure out why he can't hurt a 300k ISK frigate with an afterburner because he doesn't have a grasp on the mechanics of weapon sizes and missiles.
>Player A chips at the Tengu, but can't overcome its tank.
>Pirates come by and kill both.

Who is the winner in that situation? Sure, having more skills is better, but experience is the most important aspect of the game and can only be gotten by actually playing.

>>144262356
shield gets weaker extenders and an omni-damage hardener

armor gets stronger plates and an omni-damage passive membrane

theres an even trade

Do I need to be a Goon now in order to join Anime Masters?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSKvAXU4FU

You do know animer masters does jack shit together right? it's basically an weeb NPC corp

>>144262857
>joining a traitor

He's also a pretend weeb with shit taste.

Let's discuss the cancer that is SRP.

>>144263560
SRP pretty much killed GSF

Sexual Role Play is not cancer. It's one of the few things that makes EVE not boring.

>>144263560

how is it cancer

>>144263857
epic for the win my friend, it's le old reddit switch-a-roo

>le
It's la, you dumb nigger. Always use the proper gender.

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g-gu
guy
guys what if
guys
what if we m-
MULTIBOX
what if we multibox a new Jita whore empire?

>>144263560
>corps/alliances earn money from pos/poco/whatever
>they distribute it to their members only for pvping, to discourage deadweight grindfags

what exactly is the problem

>>144263560
It's a smokescreen for the pyramid scheme that is every large alliance.

>where is the money that X is supposedly paying us?
>oh that goes towards SRP
>owed 600mil for three months now

>>144264154

Most every argument for srp can be flipped to an argument against.

For instance, do you want a culture of getting people to pull themselves up by the boots and roll their own shit, working together and having a real sense of responsibility for themselves and others losses.

Or do you want a more supporting and parachute oriented culture that turns you into a fat lazy poo boy who wont undock unless he knows the state will pay for it.

One side you get the cunts left over who are gonna be just fine wherever they go, the other side is a bunch of useless fuckwits who think the only way to make money is ratting and have no skill outside anchoring.

>>144264589
>people abuse it
>they use it for their own pvp and ignore war lings or save pos pings
>people get used to it and once it collapses they no longer wish to pvp when it matters
>leads to fcs running """"fun"""" """"its just a game bro"""" fleet wipes with no care for success
>attracts new players to massive coallitions and causes content droughts when everyone is blue to each other

more stuff I can't think of right now.

>>144265171
what the fuck does any of that have to do with srp

it sounds to me like you have a list of complaints about some alliances, and you think they're all because of srp because you're retarded

>>144265275
it is cuz of SRP tho

>>144265275
It has to do everything with srp. People won't undock unless they get paid.

>>144265334

how do they abuse it
personal things aren't srp'able
fun roams aren't srp'd
even minor corps tend to have srp for cheaper ships

>>144265275
I was thinking of goons so cool argument I guess.
Literally cucked by SRP.

>>144265446
so if you're in a fleet of 200 people, and you are the only one that dies, you think you should have to go grind to replace your ship

oh but if the alliance takes loot from the fight they can give it to you because that's not srp, but the money they get from taking big objectives, they can't hand that out because of reasons

>>144265446

and when they don't have money they'll magically undock?

how is that going to work

>>144265479
Even if what you say is true in a corp.
None of that is ever enforced.
Its a service run by people.
There is always corruption that leads to massive chunks of SRP.
And it only leads to SRP being cut in the smaller alliaces and people not undocking.

Much like a lot of aspects of this game SRP is just another cancer brick in the wall. Let me just go ahead and list the so many things wrong with eve and why it prob won't last for another 2 years if CCP and players don't start working together for a change:

1. Multiboxing is the toppest #1 cancer plaguing this game. There is just no other way to put it, It makes an otherwise amazing MMO P2W by getting as many accounts as you can and just grinding OP ships like ravens and proteusus in literally 30 minutes while a single account holder is literally paying to work a second job.

2. SRP kills alliances and makes players shit. Isk should not be top to bottom is should be bottom to top, end of fucking story.

3. Mining in this game is a feature that literally kills this game. How many people do you hear say "well I tried eve, I mined in high sec for like 3 months, but then I just quit for some reason"...yeah, nuff said.

4 Tedium. Everything in this game is TEDIUM, form scanning, to blob fights, to making isk, everything has to have a time wall full of tedium that makes people quit even before their trial ends.

>>144265682
They don't have their own sources of income? Do they just sit in station and wait for pings?

I have a signature that's the two red dots and I can't get it above 0.0%. I am in an astero with a sister's probe launcher and probes, astro V and each of the support skills at III. I scanned down a superior sleeper cache last week. How am I fucking this up? No scan signatures detected regardless of how I position the probes or how big or small I make them.

When you get the two red dots that means the signature is by one of the two right?

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I just don't like this game anymore.
Lets remove everything.
Shut it down CCP

>>144265907
>should be bottom to top

take it to /pol/ cuck

oh and

5. spreadsheets. let's not trucking forget the amount of autism and rainman mentality you must have in order to remain competitive in this fucking game. Literally makes a chess champion look like a faggot.

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>>144266110
>If you're bad and you know Join All-Out!
>If you're bad and you know Join All-Out!
>If you're bad and you know it then your fit with surely show it!
>If you're bad and you know Join All-Out!

>>144265907
>EVE WILL DIE IN 2 YEARS IF IT DOESNT DO WHAT I SAY
People have only been saying this for 13 years.

>>144266526
>20k online
>i-it's ok guys, eve i-is not d-dead

FAGGOT

>>144260187
>Play Dust
>Tank is Kaalakiota skinned

>>144266169
do you even have a workor went to school?
why are you talking of spreadsheets like they are some NSA NASA superintelligent mega computer thing?

fucking spreadsheets are simple as fuck for what they are used in eve

>>144265662
In the case of this fleet.

It all comes down to the culture of the group.

For me? If i was the fc i would loot and contract to the bro who died.

With their corp or alliance, do they need to give this guy money? Do they want to? Does this guy ever contribute to the taxes or whatever?

If this guy just shows up for pings, is shit at the game and then he and gets srp, Its this kind of guy you dont want. A low skilled, literal leach of a player.

It gets muddied by value from this guy being nice and making people laugh and people like him and yeah, 20 mil from 10 of us, sure bro.

Theres no right or wrong answer, but in my house, people get help at the start, then its get tough or die.

>>144260826
But the sac doesn't use lasers?

How the fuck do you fit a sac anyway, I feel like it doesn't have near enough lows to fit a tank and some BCS modules.

tell me what else is cancer in eve please

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>>144266616
go play wow then faggot
"""""""""""lots"""""""""" of players

>>144266880

>leech
>participates

?

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>>144266952
>But the sac doesn't use lasers?
>he doesn't use the heavy pulse hybrid sacrilege fit

>>144267034
good rebuttal m8 kys irl for real

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>>144267250
lets go shitpost about multiboxing in /wowg/

>Jump through lowsec gate
>Carrier 1500km off tries to instablap me

Lucky for me I warp even more instantly.

>>144268150

>shit that didn't happen

>>144265171
The nature of EVE is that it will always be in players' best interests to work together, but do the prisoner's dilemma, most people don't. Eventually, people come together and form massive alliances because it's easier to have a billion blues flying around your space than tons of unknowns. It's just the nature of the game.

Of course, as soon as someone feels like they've been shafted, resentment grows, people feel entitled to better things than they currently have, and they forget how hard things were when they were alone. And that's when things start to fall apart as factions form, pacts are made, and anarchy reigns. And like a cycle, this will eventually lead to another large power bloc forming with people starting the whole thing over again.

There's nothing we can really do about it, most people eventually realize they're not cut out to be solo or small groups in dangerous space, so they either find some protection from bigger players, run back to empire space, or quit. That's one thing I've always liked about playing with 4chan people though, those fuckers either git gud or die trying, refusing to ever bow to anything but their own whims and never settle for being a small fish. It's refreshing as fuck after trying to herd 50 something people who need direct orders and micromanagement.

>>144265662
Little guys get shafted, more news at 11. It's just the nature of things, big corps need the lion's share of loot, little guys need just a little more than they'd have made on their own. Parallels real life pretty close on that.

>>144268476
he doesn't own a carrier

>>144269030

who doesn't

>>144269110
the shitters crying about them

>>144269380

who

>want to leave shitty alliance
>all my stuff is in tribute and saranen

tough it out for another month or two or bite the bullet and firesale everything?

no, I'm not a goon

>>144269552
why not move it?

>>144269682
I don't have a jump freighter or enough liquid isk to hire someone to move it for me.

>>144269552
>no, I'm not a goon

co2?

>>144268476
I almost got cucked by a nid while warping a slasher from a lowsec station. Faggot didn't even have fighters out when I undocked

>>144269774
firesale the stuff that will sell fast and well like ratting and doctrine ships, use some of the money to have someone move the rest.
Bonus points if you set a high as fuck collateral.

>>144269816
MC. There's some cool people in the alliance, but I don't like the leadership. We have a couple FCs who are good under fire, and the line members are okay too, but I feel like we are really behind the curve strategically. Bad doctrines, bad decisions about where we stage from, that sort of thing. My corp is also 95% EUTZ and I work full-time, I'm usually the only person online during weeknights.

I started off participating in EVERYTHING. Hanging out on comms all the time, making an effort. I came back to the game a couple months ago and have 8-9 years of experience doing small-gang. I had some losses that I didn't get SRPed for, we lost some fights, now I don't show up for shit.

The trillions of ISK we were supposedly paid for this war? I haven't seen a kredit of it. And we move every two weeks which is annoying as fuck.

Like I said there's some cool people in the alliance, I've had some nice convos with people on TS and such, but this just ain't for me. I don't know what I was thinking.

>>144270491

sucks bro, hope you find a home you like

>>144270491
Join OSS

does gravimetric backup array ii exist anymore or were they just replaced with signal amps?

>>144271157

pretty sure sig amps replaced all that

>>144271126
Good joke. Two weeks in Syndicate with those dumbasses told me all I need to know about them.

>>144270736
Thanks, I may just start my own small corp and not focus on pvp.

>>144270394
That's a good idea, I may try that.

>>144271431
>Good joke. Two weeks in Syndicate with those dumbasses told me all I need to know about them.
Tishu then?

>>144269552
Blackfrog can move a jump freighter worth of shit for about 125m ISK, try them. If it's all ship hulls though, best you can do is keep the expensive ones.

anybody wanna give me a plex for some rs3 gold

>>144271813
Nice try ccp

>TISHU

ayyyy lmao, if you want a corp literally made up of edgy /b/tards, then yeah sure

>>144271864
they dont even reach /b/ level
they are r/4chan tier meme spouting edgsters

>>144271594
You can just stop with the parade of horribles. Honestly if I had to join another nullsec alliance it would be INIT or White Legion. Those are the only two entities I have seen since I came back that seem to know what they are doing.

I don't think I will join another 0.0 alliance though. The best corp/alliance I was part of split up back in 2009ish when some people went to join PL and I think some others went off with Garmon, Awox, etc.; then I joined PL and it was shitty as fuck and I quit the game after a couple months.

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>>144271860
I'm serious friends, I just don't want to have to pay ccp for my first plex

did you know mbc takes money from a group that is literally funding by real peoples suffering?

>>144272054
But those two suck
all they do is fly meme ships and being annoying without actually achieving any goal.

>>144271781
I already put my stuff in to their calculator and it was 300m. I have 280 liquid and about 6 bil in assets. Plus, I don't know if they can dock in our outpost. That's a last resort for me, I don't like zeroing my wallet.

>>144272374

280 liquid is basically zero

>>144272274
They certainly kicked the shit out of us a few times. Maybe that's not saying much. And what goals? Lining the pockets of your alliance's leadership? Holding sov so your ranks can get bloated with carebear leaches or renters? I don't care about news stories or making the front page of reddit, I am fine with small potatoes. I'd rather work with 3 or 4 other people and build a successful little business that we can all take ownership of than spend all my time fight and dying with 200 people for somebody else's gain and glory.

>>144272582
Yeah it is, that's why I don't want to spend it.

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>Still on my first month
>Half way to a Plex already

Exploration so gud. Doing 4/10's in a Confessor is pretty tense though.

>>144273097
yea really, the DED difficult doesn't scale well

1-3/10's are piss easy, 4's are sometimes hard as shit

5's are easy, certain 6's will fuck you

7's and 8's are easy, 9/10 involving the Maze is easy if you know the order but the last room is so fucking intense

10/10's are easy as shit

>>144272687
Thats because they basically stayed active during the whole MBC thing while all MBC alliances were sitting on their asses semi afk entosing shit for months fighting nothing and losing members to boredom.

Give it time and you'll see init die.
You're talking about alliances and corps that are older as fuck and have their ups and downs.

Init is rather new and has some momentun that won't last.

>>144272374
move your stuff to npc null or lowsec, therr must be someone in your corp that does daily moves.
don't need to move it all in one go

>>144273468
there are so many things wrong with eve, you have to wonder what CCP does during a normal working day. Do they sit there with their thumbs up their ass?

What is it with /eog/ and dog pics? is he some kind of /eog/ mascot??

>>144273468
I'm considering training for something bigger just so I can clear the sites quicker, but I don't know what works. I don't want to use an Astero/Stratios because I have no Drone skills yet (currently training Drones V, but I have no supports above II). Would a Navy Omen work better? It's a bit expensive but seems to be a direct upgrade over what I'm flying already. Ideally I'd like to fit it with Beams though...

>>144273670
I imagine that CCP didn't want to make generic MMO missions where you have to fight some instakilling boss at the end with a bajillion HP

the problem though is that the AI isn't really that advanced they sort of just approach their optimals and fire and orbit.

The cosmos missions are over 10 years old and a pretty sizeable chunk of them are flat out broken

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>>144273786

>>144273862
a navy omen in terms of raw range and dps would be a very good replacement over a confessor but you run the risk of taking more damage>>144273862

>>144273870
that's still no excuse for having broken features from when the game was in some shit like beta

>>144273995
Incoming damage hasn't really been a problem. Generally what I've been doing is just sitting at 50+ km then plunking with long range ammo. Granted if I get careless I gets a bit hairy.

I'm going to have to stick with the Confessor for a bit anyway, since I've got two escalations in Lowsec, and there's no way I'd take a Navy Omen there lel.

GILA
HILA
GUILA
JILA
GEELA
GHYLA

>not using a gila

it's guy-la

>>144274009
Well it kinda is when you create missions made by a team that may not even work at CCP anymore

With the way the game is progressing, you're probably not going to see a PvE redo for a long while

>>144274504
its jilla

>>144273097
If it'S the blood 4/10 you can snipe the monastery right from the warp-in. But you have to have beams, aurora and 2 t2 locus rigs. It's like 69k range or so.

Don't forget to bookmark the cargo, warp away and come back after a few minutes. The cruiser rats won't even have time to come close.

it's dhila/thila/zila/cila

>ashaymhoo

>not printing isk with a polarized machariel

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friends pls answer

http://www.strawpoll.me/10383553

>>144274835
My max range is currently 48km unfortunately. the TD from the Dark Blood Officer Frigate dropped my optimal down to 10km and my tracking to basically nothing lol. I had to MWD away and snipe him with Radio as he closed.

i was just unironically being ironic

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>he uses lasers for pve
>""""'"""infinite ammo"""""""

>>144275012
The 3/10? Hue.

>>144275012
put some range rigs on your confessor and you can hit 79km with aurora

>>144275012
Post ur fit, bro.

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>aurora
>T2 ammo

why are meta ewar modules better than t2

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>>144275346
>>144275452
Only 2.2 spare PG so I can't fit another Locus, and my gunnery supports are only at III anyway. Also I like having the Kinetic rig because without it I have a massive kinetic hole that makes me very scared of getting jumped in lowsec.

>>144275695
not anymore

>>144275695
because CCP and their ever expanding repertoire of shit decisions killing this game.

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>>144275873
>cloak
Why

>t2 afterburner
Eats fitting

You don't need tank, fessor has enough base resits.

>>144273518
They may have their ups and downs, but I didn't join one that's a good fit for me. I have no doubt MC will continue to exist for awhile and will still get contracts. They are good for completing objectives, but that sort of thinking isn't what I was raised on, so to speak. I've always been on the small-gang side of things. Probably what your average nullsec member would term "irrelevant elitist faggots." The people camping pipes in cloaky ships or roaming in nano HACs, back when that was a thing. My best years were spent shitting all over the early drone region alliances (Volition Cult, IRC, ED) and then in Delve shooting everyone during the Goon invasion. We never held sov, but we killed a lot of people and did whatever we wanted.

I think I like that better than being on the other side. Like I said, I'm fine with small potatoes.

MC has top-tier logistics. Like incredible. But I would feel bad asking them to move my shit to empire and then quitting.

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I think I'm gonna buy an All-Out mug, thoughts?

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>damage control for pve
>tank mods for pve
>cloak

>>144276147
Cloak and AB because I'm not sticking to highsec and I want to have a chance to not die immediately if someone manages to catch me.

>>144276229
why would you feel bad?
I see that happen since ever.
People quit in good terms and JFs services help them move their shit out, I've even see some do it for free but don't expect it.
Just don't fuck anyone, as long ad you were a decent guy nobody will fuck you.

>>144276552

this

>>144276330
shit, entire cup should be orange

>>144276397
so just do the insta warp trick.
cloak wont save you in null if you land into a bubbled camp

>>144276397
Cloak eats your cpu, MWD eats shitton of fitting and kills your cap. If you go to lowsec just create a lot of bookmarks and instadocks. Might wanna avoid systms with no stations.

>>144276674
This website won't let me make it all orange I tried

>>144276753
I have no issues with CPU so there's no reason not to fit the cloak. I have 20 free CPU even with the cloak.

>>144276849
thats because you only have 2 dmg mods, random ass tank and fitting rig which is terrible for pve.
You want either cap or dmg rigs for pve also don't need the damage control and the cloak won't save you from bubbles in null while making you target shit slow as fuck.

>>144276552
>>144276623
In the past 6 weeks they have moved 300+ pilots' shit from UMI -> X-7O -> DBT -> Hakonen -> FD-MLJ -> Harroule -> Saranen. And that's not counting taking care of everyone's shopping lists from Jita at the same time and stocking markets/alliance contracts wherever we move. My impression from chat channels and forum posts is that they are in a constant state of overwork. They are pretty strict about where they will move stuff and currently DBT contracts are at the bottom of the priority list. Not trying to hang around for a week waiting for my stuff. I'll take the haircut so I can gtfo.

>>144277157
when I say dmg mod I mean something related to the gun rig.
but usually cap rigs is king so you can stay stable while havig as many dmg and tracking computers as possible

>>144277319

gotcha, well i dunno man

good luck i guess

>>144277635
ty, it will be fine. I am firesaling my DBT shit and I'll use some of that money to get my more expensive stuff out of Saranen once it quiets down. I need more liquid ISK anyway, I have been running on fumes for like a month. Have had a run of bad luck doing explo on my alt, can't really make money on my main due to deployment. Think I will move to my alt's tax shelter and do incursions for a couple weeks, then decide if I want to start up a corp or join another.

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For lvl3 mission blitzing,
Cerberus or Mach ?

I want to raise my standings with CN fast...

>>144278265
dont call it a firesale though. firesale is codeword for scam

>>144278409

mach

>>144278510
I called it a hangar cleanout. I mean they can see everything on the description. The price is maybe a little high for a firesale (like 200m under Jita buy order prices), but I did that on purpose to negotiate from a better position if necessary.

>>144278761
wait where are you?

>>144278909
Where is the contract, you mean? It's in DBT in an MC-owned outpost. I believe you can get there in 1 jump from Hakonen, but you may need a midpoint.

>>144279021
And I don't think you can dock there unless you are +10. So you'd need to be in like CO2, OSS, maybe PL? I can't remember who we are +10 with off-hand and I'm about to go to bed.

>>144278409
caldari cosmos

>>144279187

co2 is pretty bro tier, they may be able to hook you up

>>144278409
can you take lvl3 gates in a battleshit?

>>144286091
most of them

http://www.amazon.com/Online-Core-Starter-Pack-Game/dp/B00MXD6ERU?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

>Prototype Cerebral Accelerator (skill booster)
>30 days of game time
It's 99cents but the 30days worth of game time isn't redeemable for existing paying accounts. It'll work for current trial users. Still worth it either way for the accelerator.

>>144286894
I can't check the current prices of the accelerator but it was 400mil not long back. It's not available in market so check contracts.

is anyone a scribe? need some skill books

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sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit

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>>144290217
weed lmao

>>144274617
>With the way the game is progressing
No shit sherlock, 95% of CSMs are from null alliances, of course they will lobby for the shit they want. CCP need to make quotas for CSM for each type of space to even begin dealing with that shit.

ITT people who cant multibox

Multibox is the true fun, in every MMO

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>>144293959

Is the Sin any good?

>>144296205
yes

>>144296292
I just started playing and have been training for drones and shields.
I was wondering what they were like if I keep at it for a few months.

>>144296416
Don't train for a SIn. Black Ops battleships are extremely niche. They're great at what they do, but chances are, you won't be doing it. With that said training Drones is always good and they're some of the most useful skills in the game.

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>multiboxing

>>144296656
What is their niche?
I'm using a myrmidon right now.
Do I just go for dominix or rattlesnake as my "endgame" ship?

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>>144296690
i agree with you this time will smith poster.

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thank you catgirl poster

>>144296981
They're for ganking stupid Cap pilots Nullsec with a bunch of friends then being gone before their backup arrives. Fun, but you rarely get the opportunity in day to day play. Black Ops are weaker than standard Battleships to make up for the fact that they have so much potential for ganking. In your case I'd highly recommend going for the Ishtar, Stratios, Curse or Pilgrim depending on what you want to do. All are great drone ships, all have far more practical applications than a Battleship. Domi and Rattler aren't bad, but they, like all Battleships, are not as broadly useful as smaller ships due to how easy it is for another player to catch you. Train for Battleships later, once you know exactly why you want it.
Ishtar is great for PvP and harder nullsec Combat sites, the Stratios is this too, except better for scanning and not quite as dangerous in PvP. Pilgrim is essentially a Black Ops BS except on a smaller scale, you can warp while cloaked and nuet the shit out of anyone you come across, or light a Cyno for your friends. Curse is a PvP boat, and it shines in small gang situations. the Ishtar, Curse and Pilgrim can be either shield or Armour tanked, but the Stratios is a pure Armour tank.

I THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE SYSTEM SECURITY SINCE CONCORD DO NOT RESPOND IN NULL WHEN MY SVIPUL GETS GANKED BY THE NOCTIS PLAYER USING SUCH A SHIP FOR A DIRTY JOB IS TRUELY NOT PALLATABLE AND I THINK U ALL SHOULD RETHINK YOUR CAREERS IN EVE

EVE isn't "fun". If you play it for "fun" YOU are the problem - the cancer - the aids - the cyst - that NO single person in New Eden wants. Only 1% of the community play the game right. Fuck off with your stupid forced meme shit trying to justify this shit fucking game, I make so much ISK/hr and sell it RWT - upward of thousands per month. What have you done with your life LOL? Kissless lonely virgin faggots, have fun being cucked F O R E V E R.

>>144297458
Why the hell does the Ishtar require weapon upgrades V. I'll think about curse or ishtar in the months they will take to train.
Thanks.

>>144300709
Because all HACs require weapon upgrades V. And you better train advanced weapon upgrades to at least IV.

Animalgirls are disgusting and degenerate.
Same goes for monstergirls.

>sage in namefield

SAGE GOES IN ALL FIELDS

>>144276147
You only have good resists in defensive (i.e. never), nice shitfit faggot

>>144255726
oh look, straight from Facebook savage gibberish to /dog/, welcome zombie retard.

>Get an Escalations
>It's 40 jumps away

>>144264951
SRP is just another incentive corps can provide to get people to join and stay with them. The fact of the matter is people only join corps/alliances because it's a better deal than what they get on their own.

SRP exists as a way to reduce the barrier to entry on fleet engagements, ensuring that if people show up, the tools for the job will be provided at no cost to them. This effectively removes all monetary risk to the player, encouraging them to contribute to the fleet without self-preservation endangering the operation. It's unreasonable to expect the majority of players to be able to provide ships of the line out of their own pocket and use them for a public event without some form of compensation, and SRP is one of the easiest to provide as the ships can be created directly from mining operations, moon goo, and salvage, manufactured in bulk at a local PoS. It also make more sense than giving players ISK and turning around and jewing them by selling marked up ships on the local market, ships required to fit in a fleet doctrine.

Still, SRP is just one of the incentives for joining a corp. For me, SRP doesn't mean all that much, because I'm not one to want to sit in large scale group combat very often, and SRP doesn't work for small groups. The biggest draw to a corporation for me is the camaraderie of other players and discovery of stuff in New Eden, which is made more difficult when playing alone.

I kind of want to train for a Logi. Is this a bad idea?

So what the hell is a kinetic missile?

>>144303426
a missile with a payload of kinetic energy

>>144303426
kinetic energy
noun: kinetic energy; plural noun: kinetic energies

energy which a body possesses by virtue of being in motion.
"energy above that needed to ionize the molecule is carried away as kinetic energy of the electron ejected"

>>144303572
So like shrapnel?

>>144303713
More like a shaped charge.

>>144303358
Not if you play the game with other people. Logi is necessary for a lot of pvp. Theres some risk of you getting pigeonholed into that role though.

>>144303358
I trained for Logi V, Caldari, Amarr, and Galente versions, still haven't flown any. Caldari and Amarr need cap chains to work as great as possible, Galente works better solo, but with our gangs being as small as they are, they're not really worth using.

If you plan to do incursions or large fleet actions, I'd say they're worth it for sure. Maybe I'll finally get some use out of Logi V now that I've joined All-Out.

>>144303993
>I've joined All-Out
im sorry for your loss

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>AWU not at V

>>144303615
>energies
There's no plural of energy, there is only energy, damage flavors in eve are space fantasy.

>>144304502
ur wrong

energy
ˈɛnədʒi/
noun

the strength and vitality required for sustained physical or mental activity.
"changes in the levels of vitamins can affect energy and well-being"
synonyms: vitality, vigour, life, liveliness, animation, vivacity, spirit, spiritedness, fire, passion, ardour, zeal, verve, enthusiasm, zest, vibrancy, spark, sparkle, effervescence, exuberance, buoyancy, perkiness, sprightliness; More
strength, stamina, forcefulness, power, might, potency, dynamism, drive, push;
informalzip, zing, pep, pizzazz, punch, bounce, fizz, oomph, go, get-up-and-go, vim and vigour;
informalfeistiness
"she set out feeling full of energy"
a person's physical and mental powers.
plural noun: energies
"an alternative is to devote your energies to voluntary work"

Origin
mid 16th century (denoting force or vigour of expression): from French énergie, or via late Latin from Greek energeia, from en- ‘in, within’ + ergon ‘work’.
Translate energies to
Use over time for: energies

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>>144304590
I was talking about science, bitch.
The Mind Body Spirit Festival handbook might refer to 'energies' but that's meaningless. People use the word to mean all sorts of things, but science knows there's only energy.
The damage flavors in eve are fantasy that serve mechanics, but thanks for your post, your autism level has increased.

Anyone want to do some 2/3man shit in caldari lowsec with me?

>>144303358
No.

>>144306379
You want a tristan?

>>144263031

>traitor

reddit pls go

>>144310378
>doing a total 180 the moment goons slap him with their dollar cock
>not a traitor

those matigu seabeast skins are on the market properly today. you could get them yesterday with some in-game browser magic, but now you can search them normally. currently you can get the minokawa from the citadel release, and more recently the condor, corax (lol), caracal, raven and phoenix from some kind of offer where they give you those if you buy lots of subscription.

I already got them way cheaper yesterday when they weren't really visible :^)

I used to think endgame WoW players were dorks but now they look completely normal compared to the average eve player. It's awesome.

yeah all that social interaction in eve sure is dorky

>sitting on skype waiting for your fc to tell you to shoot something
>social interaction

>having skype

>endgame
>sin
desu the real endgame is ERP

>>144311787
You must be in All-Out or some other autist haven. Lots of Eve players are turbonormies.

Can I have fun in this game as lone wolf pirate or do I pretty much have to join a corp to get the most out of it?

>>144312584
yes and yes

>>144312584
No, solo PvP is the domain of link alt, HG implant set fags with infinite isk being fed to them by their nullblob feeder alliances and a batphone of capital hotdrops in case they die at the keyboard and it looks like their KB efficiency might drop below 99.7%.

>>144312584
You can, but don't expect to be successful at it without a shitload of practice. There's videos and stuff of people doing solo pvp as new characters and killing people, but that's kinda misleading. You can absolutely do that, but you're more likely to get your shit pushed in 20 times before you get that 1 awesome fight.

The game is much easier, and much better, if you play with other people.

>>144312509
I'm in brave

>>144296416
>new player wants to fly a sin
>has no idea what it even does
what happened yo reading and researching your shit?

>>144313297
That's an autist haven. I'm not saying people who play eve aren't dorky, they definitely are. But depending on the group you play with a lot of people are going to be pretty normal. Almost everyone I play with is 30-40 and married with a full time job. Before that I was in a corp of 10 people and 3 had PhDs. I haven't really found that in other games.

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How do you go back to the old camera? I can't find the setting in the options. New camera spazzes out and rotates randomly n shit. fucking annoying

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>>144312584
If you play it as a singleplayer game with no real goals then you'll get bored pretty quickly and quick.

Join NPSI fleets, chat channels and active corps and just get to know people. Make friends regardless of what corp they're in, having contacts all over Eve can help you a lot.

>>144314480
It's gone man. No way to go back to it. If enough people complain for long enough they might bring it back. Get over to reddit or the official forums and start bitching.

You should probably use tactical camera and overlay anyway.

>>144313659
>ship looks cool and have a cool name
>does niche shit and need few years in skills to even be decent at that niche
The story of every new eve player. I started same wanting to fly damnation and nothing except it, dreaming of being irreplaceable buffbro chilling somewhere safe while people were getting shot...

>>144314480
You can't.

Go to esc menu, general settings and disable anything "dynamic" in camera options.

>>144314702
>tactical camera
>tactical overlay
I bet you make Eve dubstep Vexor pvp videos too

>>144314713
>actually wanting to pilot command ships in their command role
lmao look at this faggot

>>144314713
Well with Boosters being on grid soon you might actually get to fly one.

>>144314769
thanks friendo

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>>144314857

>>144314857
No I'm just a bad pilot and need it as a crutch for manual flying. Also I like being able to see everything.

>>144314884
people already do this since forever when it came down to scramble without warning for a quick fight and take a titan jump

>>144314713
>chilling somewhere safe

why would you want this

>>144314883
Fuck you i love playing buffbots, it is comfy as fuck.

>>144314884
I kinda left EVE after half a year of skilling into one, was like 7 year ago, so i did learnings too back then. Now i play on new acc, do courier missions and solo exploring, no dreams only skills and isks

<tfw i'm actually feeling like i want to try mining

><

><>

>>144316148

You are obviously retarded. Just biomass yourself now and get it over with.

>>144316148
>tfw getting into industry
Man those industry changes really lowered the entry barrier it feels like.

Also should I just get that gallente mineral hauler?

>>144316148
try gas mining. it's accessible, so you can see if you like it without sinking lots of SP into bullshit

There's nothing wrong with trying mining, it's only wrong not to try anything else.

>>144316974

Gas huffing isn't mining, though. You can do mining in highsec with zero effort.

>>144317449
gas mining is mining. you get in a mining ship with gas miners and sit next to some gas and turn the miners on. if you see no similarities between these two activities you should kill yourself in-game

When people say you need core skills to fly a ship properly for pve, what do they mean? If I just follow the skills needed in the mastery section is that good enough? What mastery level is reasonable?

My friend gave me a gila and I can technically fly it but it would take me a week to get to the second mastery level. Should I just leave it alone? I'd only be using it to rat for now.

>>144317713
Ignore mastery please.

Core means a mix of fitting, capacitor, tanking and navigation skills. It's a loose term which applies to skills which help all ships you can fly.

>>144317713
in ship masteries there are sections called 'core spaceship operation' and 'core weapon fitting'. mastery doesn't matter, it takes into account literally every skill that affects the ship in any way. just take it as a list of ship skills, then decide for each skill what is reasonable by seeing what the skill does

>>144302368
impossible

escalations only spawn between 6-9 jumps away

>>144318221
It's not impossible if you set autopilot to prefer safer

>>144317672

Gas mining is a fucklot more dangerous than comfy highsec mining.

>>144318364
so stop being autistic and set for shorter you fag

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Hey /dog/

Post:

>what you wanted to be in EVE when you first started out

>what you are now

>what you plan to become

>>144318473

>shorter
>amamake

>>144318473
I'm not setting shit, I just called you out on being wrong. No need to be upset about it.

>>144318605
PL doesn't live in amamake anymore just go through you sperg theres no one there

>>144318462
it's possible to compare things that are not the same

>>144318547

Pirate
Pirate CEO
Pirate without CEO duties

Literally the worst fucking thing I decided to try. Herding cats is easier.

>>144318547
>wanted bounty hunter

>became high sec miner

>planning on quitting soon

>bounty hunter

>>144318829

Just biomass now.

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>>144318829

>>144318806
iktf

>people actually try to make you do autistic recruitment shit

If I do missions for Minmatar would it hurt Caldari standing badly? I know it would hurt to some extend but I really need to be sure how badly it goes. And is there any penalty for delaying and never accept mission?

>>144319036
minmatar missions usually hurt amarr the most and caldari secondary

>lowsec corp offers me membership
>nah I'm okay solo
>they blopsdrop me

>>144318547
small gang in null
ewar small gang
blops

>>144319036

Just delaying without accepting, no penalty. If you accept and fail by delaying, you get the penalty if you actually press the fail mission button.

>>144319125
well you're certainly not friendly with them so they hit you like any other neut

>>144319036
just decline missions that have you shoot the 4 main factions

>>144319231
>not friendly
Do you expect me to be "hai guise how was your day xD" every time i login?

>>144319329
I don't expect them to give you a fair reach around either. If you're not in their corp you're another target

>being a pvper
>taking it personally when someone kills you

>>144319036
Don't do storylines

>And is there any penalty for delaying and never accept mission?

Every 4h you can decline a mission without penalty. So you just gotta wait 4h after declining a mission to avoid losing standings.


When you get into L4s, you can afford to decline even outside that timer, once your standings are high enough. Just don't go below agent standing of like 5, meaning you don't wanna #YOLO decline unless you're at least 5.5