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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63
>DSCM - manually connect to specific players
https://youtu.be/cvII-WJWo5s

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
>How to get autosummon covenants to work on PC:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/357286119111456394/

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://collageanon.imgur.com/
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>>144059546
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Shit spells tbqh
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>gravelording
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>>144079797
O N L I N E
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anyone have some decent DaS2 sliders?
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>>144079886
Shit most everything desu
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>>144079952
Why is poison even in the game lmao.
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Post Poise pics
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DaS3 is fucking shit it will never be fun, never ever
And we all paid good money for this piece of shit
I even bought the fucking season pass
All for a fucking game where I can't have fun, not even in PvE
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I want gwyndolin to pee in my butthole
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How the hell would I do it, /dsg/?

Kain seems easier but I like Raziel more.
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Leonhard is cute! CUTE!
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>>144080034
I want to bang her anus.
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>>144080031
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>>144079994
>Poison
>Poise
>Bleed Infusion
>Black Blade
>Uchi
>Greatswords
>Axes
>Hammers
>Rapier
>Ricard's
Anything else that sucks or is just obsolete (that's why the piercing swords are there, they aren't estocs)?
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>>144080031
go to /v/
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>>144080031
Please stop reminding me. Or I'll remind you in several hours all the plebs are gonna get on and defend this safe play coddling trash.
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>>144080104
Bleed infusion makes bleed procs deal more damage
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>>144080031
Luckily I didn't buy the season pass.
I just looked up SotFS and apparently it's 25 bucks since I have DaS2 already. Does this price get affected by discounts?
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>>144080104
Uchi is fine.
There's at least three top tier greatswords that can stand against anything.
Same with axes but they are just high tier.
Hammers have perseverance which makes them godly by default.
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>>144080206
Or, hear me out, I could go Hollow and use Carthus Rouge. Ta-dah!

>>144080232
Don't think so. You could probably get it cheaper on G2A, it's about $18.
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>>144080104
>Greatswords
>Obsolete
>When MLGS, Twincest and Hollowslayer exist
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>tfw was hoping DS3 would serve as a decent distraction from my shit life
>it doesn't
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>>144080206
Yeah but you'll never proc it without carthus rouge
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>>144080280
>perseverance
>anything but a "I AM GOING TO ATTACK THIS IS MY ATTACK WARNING RAA" or "please walk away for a second and a half" button
Yeah man I've used it too, it's shit against anyone who understands just how fucked you are if they don't trade into it, and the shitters that do trade die to anything anyhow.
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>>144080331
>Or, hear me out, I could go Hollow and use Carthus Rouge. Ta-dah!
That doesn't increase the damage, that just increases the buildup.
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>>144080031
It has potential. I am hoping that once the casuals move on and the DLC drops then they will start dropping fixes that apply to the core fan base again.
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>>144080346
>you paid for a shit game
>life gets worse
Thanks Miyazaki
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>>144080429
In practice it really does though, it guarantees procs if you land certain combos which is much better than bleed just randomly proccing midfight and dealing some more damage.
Random procs are also really bad since people roll through them.
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>>144080518

>Randomly

There's nothing random about it though
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There is a person and they have to go get 4 things and one other thing, after getting the 4 things and the other thing that allows them to warp, they go to a castle and fight a boss that was a player character, then they get to choose between light or dark

What game did i just describe?

You will be graded on this test.
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>>144080336
>MLGS
Tapers off at anything past the mid-way
>Twincest
Yeah, it's so good. Except it's not, everyone worships this thing and it doesn't do jack. 16 times fought and every single time it failed to impress.
>Hollowslayer
That's a thrusting sword Anon.

>>144080280
>Uchi
>Worth using against any other katana
Don't mess me around Anon, please.
Axes that aren't great axes I've literally never seen used by anyone not a new blood. I'm not joking either, I haven't seen one used by a mid-leveled or up player, I'm going off the assumption they suck because of this. Feel free to highlight if I'm wrong about that then.
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Daily reminder DaS2 patches brought it to its peak in june, after patches that had already addressed multiplayer issues with the game and improved it.
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>>144079908
Why did they have to get rid of both the gravelord and the rat covenant ?
Miyazaki you piece of shit.
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>>144080615
>Warping unlocked
Not DS2, BB or DS3
>PC boss
Not DS1 unless you refer to the cut Oscar fight. So I dunno.
Watch it be Armoured Core or something.
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>>144080645
Butcher's knife is an insanely annoying thing when used by someone passive because of its reach.
Thrall's axe is just the only good quickstep weapon that also suits any caster.
And dragonslayer axe can reach 500 damage per hit.
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>>144080672
No, that was July. June was when they buffed havelmonsters, accidentally undid the monscim nerf, and turned Helixodon into a SSS-tier weapon.
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Is there any redeeming factor to blessed weapons? Like, 60 faith, two +10 blessed, Princess ring, Flynn?
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>>144080802
Wacky Tanimura-kun, what a wildcard.
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>>144080672

Call me when they "patch in" bonfire ascetics, remove blue sentinels and add a gravelord/ratbro-type covenant, make poison not a joke, and add a blue eye orb. Then I'll get excited. Until then the best I'm expecting is one or two more patches to fix exploits before they start shitting out half-baked DLC.
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>>144080438
Unless they back pedal hard enough to lose all their dignity(they won't), the fundamental issues will never get fixed.
The game won't be saved with simple fixes like adjusting hornet damage or fixing AGS
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>>144080615
None of the Souls games.
You can warp from the beginning and you don't really have to get anything in Demon's Souls, you just become stronger and then face False King (not a PC)
You get the Lordvessel AFTER Anal Rodeo in Dark Souls, and Gwyn was never a player character.
You can warp from the beginning and fight Nashandra (not a PC) in DaS2
Bloodborne is nothing like what you described.
You can warp from the beginning in DaS3, and SoC isn't technically a PC.

Unless you're talking about the Aged Feather in DaS2 and that Shard in DaS3, in which case you're getting real pedantic.
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>>144080672
>removed golf swing
>removed good tracking on greatbows
>removed ALL good powerstance combinations
>dlc added flynns and drowned the game with metashittery
>reintroduced monscimmy for a month because fuck you
>peak
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>>144080851
If only we had a gravelord covenant..
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>>144080770
He is probably referring to something like Dragon's Dogma.

>>144080868
They don't really have to back pedal, and even if they did, that didn't stop the Agape ring from getting made.
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>>144080851
>gravelord
Try NG+ run with finger
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>>144080104

Rapier is nice you asshole
I can basically be an estoc shitter but don't feel bad about it because it deals a bit less damage and isn't called estoc
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>>144080802
>>144080849
That was also when they nerfed Cale's Shoes.

I will never forgive B-Team
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>>144080792
Ehh... the only stand out there is Dragonslayer which is hardly among the norm. Butcher's plays more like a spear in that regard and Thrall being the best among quickstep weapons is like being best among the unmoving dead. Otherwise middling then? Well I'll give them a B-, could be better but otherwise lacking in a meta of OP shit, would like to see them as baseline power.
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>>144080851
>bonfire ascetics
screw you, that thing killed high sm coop
i'm glad it will never return
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>>144080967

Good thing SM doesn't exist anymore and matchmaking applies across every single NG cycle. Faggot.
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>>144080868
No point in even arguing that point here, From software won't backpedal so the foundation the game is built on will remain the same i.e mediocre.

At best I can see them overhauling magic and such pretty significantly, but after DaS2 Faith I'm skeptical.
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Could someone post the image with the guide to an early sorcerer build, please.
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>>144080937
That's kinda the point though. It's poor mans estoc so to speak.

>>144080910
Oh fuck it is Dragon's Dogma! The Shcenenennamsamaladingdong is a PC.
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>>144080887
Bows were pretty retarded though, DaS2 didn't have ridiculous tracking and you couldn't do 360 spins mid attack even with slow weapons. Bows just meant you could watch someone roll and shoot as he enters recovery every time.
Probably wasn't necessary to change it the way they did since shields existed, but it was pretty bad.
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>>144080331
It would be a pain to try and figure out the timing and build up from person to person but someone suggested using hollow weapons to build up bleed and when you think they are close use the bleed infused weapon to proc it instead for the extra damage.
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>>144081045
But you don't get to choose between light and dark in Dragon's Dogma, the Seneschal isn't inside a castle and technically you can warp from the beginning of the game.
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>>144080967
Enjoy your high quality NG+ content, including and limited to +rings and soul consumables
Removing ascetics would make sense if they actually put effort into the fucking NG+, but in that regard even DaS had more to offer.
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That general in a nutshell :
>Dark Souls comes out
>baaaw it's so fucking filled with cheaters ablublublu
>Dark Souls 2
>baaaaw it's the B-team just trust me when I say that my dad works at From ablublu why is everything so shitty okay they tried to fix the multi but it's honestly worse and the story is shit
>Dark Souls 3
>WHIIIIINE its even worse even through the multiplayer finally limits all the bullshit we got in previous games BAAAAAAAAAAAAW
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>summon Hawkwood in dragon area
>sit down to get shiny dragon torso stone
>he sits too
>Phantom Hawkwood returned to their world
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>>144081193
>invades another player for the first time
>intends to just fuck around and black crystal out
>he already passed the fog wall and is fighting the abyss watcher
>dunno what to do
>just spam "Hello" stone while hoping he dies
>turns out he had two sunbros to help him
>wasted a cracked eye orb
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>>144081104
This was a thing people did sometimes in DaS1. If I remember right there was a weapon (Priscilla's dagger?) that did a ridiculous amount of damage on bleed procs, like 50% or something. It was never really used over just spamming with a Gold Tracer though.
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>>144081104
Eh... I could see it yeah but it's kinda wasted effort for the most part.

>>144081112
Fuck! I dunno. I'm normally a racing guy, I just make fast brum-brums go round corners sideways listening to rock music. This is higher brain function I normally don't employ.
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>>144080770
>>144080884
The game was king's field 2, or 3 if you're a weaboo.

as you can see, the skeleton of this plot was re-used many times.
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>>144081151
all those things said were right
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>No wanderer set
>No merchant set
>No way to even remotely recreate my favorite 2 looks
This is some absolute bullshit.
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>>144080645
The katanas the way I see them:
Bloodlust is complete garbage.
Darkdrift is just slightly above because the WA isn't literal suicide.
Black blade is low damage, shit range, and its "unique moveset" is a straight downgrade from the basic one.
Uchi is better despite lower damage because of better range and moveset.
Oniduchan and Dakukara have some okay combos and can deal high damage with bleed.
Washing Pole's range actually makes the otherwise lackluster r1s decent, massively improves the already great WA/running r1/1hr2.
Chaos blade pretty much just the uchi with much better damage.
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>>144081151
What multiplayer bullshit? You're not making any fucking sense
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>>144081112
>But you don't get to choose between light and dark in Dragon's Dogma
Debatable, and you need a ferry stone before you can warp.

You go to a castle to fight Grigori. And there are multiple endings. Whether you call them light or dark is up for interpretation.

I am not saying this is the answer he wanted, just pointing out it is the BS trick answer people usually pull on here when asking questions like that. Basically, the obvious answer is DaS1, so it is probably not DaS1.
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>>144081304
This guy gets it. This was my point with Uchi, there are just better katanas to use.
I actually forgot Bloodlust and Darkdrift existed, holy shit.
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>>144081303

>Favorite DaS2 helmet was the ragged mask variant that goes around your whole head
>Find a ragged mask in the swamp
>It's the shit version that just covers the mouth

I killed hundreds of those god damn zombies farming the one I wanted, and I always ended up getting a dozen of the mouth ones before I got the head one. It felt like a kick in the fucking nuts when I found this stupid thing.
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>>144081129
My ng+ content includes countless dried finger way of the blue runs which is WAY funnier than my entire 1000 hours of DS2 experience, thank you.
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Between bloodlust and warmth, grapes get the worst covenant rewards ever seen in souls
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>>144081456
Full-face ragged mask bro! Shit was so fucking good.
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>>144081434
I always keep a bloodlust on me. You never know when you'll want to play a quick game of sudoku.
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>>144081496
>that loooooooooooong health bar
JESUS
0/10 wouldn't invade and wouldn't partake in cooperation with
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>Finished DS3, was ok but for some reason doesn't have the magic of DeS/DaS
>Decide to replay DaS1 on PC after ages
>Look up what mods is popular to enhance the game
>dsfix
>HD Textures
>SweetFX
>Wulf Connectivity Mod

>Load Game
>Its more beautiful then DS3
>Get to Sens Fundhouse
>Constantly being invaded

I am literally crying.
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>>144081532
Got it once, literally discarded it and never went grapist again. It spits on Alonne's memory. That thing was so fucking stupid, Jesus Christ, could you imagine it returned?
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>>144081532
>yfw the sudoku can be parried
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It's been seven years and no Souls game has had levels better than DeS's 1-1 and 3-2. Why is this allowed?
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>>144081552
27 vig?
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>>144081607
>Fundhouse
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>>144081607
>tfw my DS1 can't get nodes no matter what I try
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT WHY
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>>144081552
You must be one of those guys.
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>>144081634
>reading this spoiler
REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144081653
The mininum to have Solaire's armour, a broadsword, a spear and a shield.
I like starting as deprived, but the flaw is that you're always a bit scared of getting overleveled. The fact I barely see any summoning mark means I probably should level more.
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>>144081710
nigger you using the latest version?

Click the fucking DSCM-NET checkbox.

Basically a godam realtime database of everyone playing DS1 through steam and making you connect to them.
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>>144081634
>invade a seeded ganksquad of absolute faggots
>quickly try to honorably kill self
>host parries your seppuku with caestus and they rape you with their huge gundyr halberds and AGSs
>they all point down and clap
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>>144081753
I said vig not vit.
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>>144081767
I've done this shit and it didn't work. No fucking nodes.
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How does this look? Blessed Weapon buff and some other random spell on a Hollow Uchi. Backup Lothric Holy Sword for the laser.
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>>144081607
Never heard of SweetFX and the Wulf Mod

What are they?
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Does the color of a boss soul mean anything?
Some are yellow and some are blue.
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>>144081790
My vig is probably at 10 then.
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>>144081846
you don't need all this endurance for anything but ultra weapons, drop it to 20-25 and you won't lose anything
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>>144081607
>have to mod game to enjoy it

Fucking kek
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>>144080205
>safe play
>because it's not a completely different 'game' like ds2
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>>144080031
I can't wait until the DLC is out so you retards can all pretend like the game is perfect, even when nothing changes.
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>>144081787
>escape
>try to kill yourself by falling off the map
>can't because it's the high wall and every ledge is an invisible wall
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>>144081950
>Straw-manning this hard
It won't make any of them good, just give up.
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>>144081878
why were you saying mean things to that anon when you haven't even played enough to level vig?
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>>144081846
Generic Dex + hollowing build tbqh. You could've stopped at SL100 and your build would still be very viable.
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>>144081846

>''how does this look?''

Nigga it's SL120, you can dump stats in anything you want
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>>144081193
It's pretty much From's way to tell you how to get the twinkling torso stone.
And it explains why Hawkwood challenges you similarly to DaS' dragon covenant, he got the head stone and wants your torso stone. That's where the whole "only one of us can be a dragon" stuff comes from.
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>>144081710
Try changing your download region to Washington.
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>>144081958
I've been asking my das friends around and they're all pretty much done with the game.
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So I tried the pike as some of you suggested.
Frankly, it's shit. It's way too slow compared to the spear, and doesn't do more damage. Even moreso, the running attack does pisspoor damage and leaves you exposed.

>>144082050
I was just saying that with my health bar, I wouldn't invade him.
You should really stop taking everything as an insult.
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>>144081847
SweetFX is like a light and bloom enhance mod, sort of an ENB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=And5rL4NJtI


Wulf Mod is basically a workaround for matchmaking servers.
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>>144082078
>use head stone
>get dragon head

>use torso stone
>get dragon head and dragon body
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>>144081878
EZ
>10vig
>Farron Dart can kill you
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>>144082173
Thanks, Miyazaki.
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>>144082079
Tried that with both LAN regions and Luxembourg.
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>>144082014
How's this 'strawmanning'?
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Is the first dlc out this month?
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>getting next to no invades
>takes forever to invade a place
ded game
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>>144082127
Of course you wouldn't invade him, since you probably aren't high enough in level. No one would want to be summoned to the world of a host who dies in one hit either though.
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>>144082319
Okay, so you're definitely dense.
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>invaded by some fuckface at SL25 who uses avelyn, carthus rouge buffed curved sword and has an obscuring ring
>all of this is meaningless as i already killed dancer with +3 ASS, have prisoner's chain and hornet ring
i fucking love how they got around the twinking in ds3
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>>144082173
torso should only work if your head is already dragon desu
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>>144082301
>no replayability
Who would have thought ?
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>>144081710
>tfw constant action on 360
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So is anyone actually making a character for the gladiator event?
The fashion options are limited as shit, and so are weapons. Not even a proper trident this time around
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>>144082301
level?
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Newb here, trying a pyro build, was considering fire uchigatana into sharp chaos blade. Thoughts?
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>>144082380
Why?
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>>144082467
100
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>checking YouTube subscriptions
>DTH made a OW mythbuster vid, guess I'll watch it
>Wow this game looks terrible
>It looks like fucking PSX graphics or some shit and cartoony as fuck
>God I can't believe this is what kids like now
>D.Va
>Wow that is fucking gay as fuck
>Wait a minute, she's pretty hot
>Holy shit she gets a mech
>Holy shit it looks like something out of S.L.A.I., that's awesome
>Wait, what the fuck did I just say?
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>>144082474
I'm not going to waste my time explaining what a joke is.
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Okay, question time!

If you kill Horace in Smoldering Lake and don't tell Anri about him she just goes on to Irithyll and says "I couldn't find Horace."

What happens if you kill Horace and then tell Anri about him? Does it mess up her questline?
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>>144082479
already high for invading
but you should get invaded regularly
i'm at 120 and getting a fuckton of invaders everywhere
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>>144082521
No, do explain how you weren't pretending to be retarded all this time.
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>>144082482
Thank blog.
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>>144082536
>What happens if you kill Horace and then tell Anri about him?
>she just goes on to Irithyll and says "I couldn't find Horace."
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>>144082536
>she
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>>144082482

>Subscribing to youtube channels
>Watching other people play games
>Only complaint is about the grafix
>Waifufag

Do your parents know you're a fucking faggot? I mean, they definitely KNOW, but have you told them about it yet to get it all out in the open?
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>>144082482
Blizzard shit was always cartoony as fuck, but yeah, the girls are pretty fucking hot
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>>144082270
>DS3 plays it safe by not doing anything new with the story, just a bland recycle of mostly the same shit, bloating itself with call backs and references to DeS, DS and aesthetic copies from BB
>It's not a completely new story like DS2!
Believe it or not, there is a nice in-between which is what would have been good. I didn't ask for completely different. That's the strawman. I don't even have much if any love for DS2 but faggots have to justify the new hotness even it's worse than what it should have been.
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>>144082473
katanas other than washing pole are shit
go with chaos carthus sword
even if enemy is immune to fire he will get facefucked by bleed
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>>144082390
god, i have never seen someone meme so hard in my entire life
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Does anyone have presets for priscilla like character?
Please
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>>144082482
I can't even imagine what the fuck was going through your head when you posted this.
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>>144082482
Quality Demon's/Dark Souls discussion, friend
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>>144082628
i mean what the fuck do you expect from a sequel on a game about cycles?

did you not notice the pattern between all fromsoft games? why would a direct sequel be any different?
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>>144082623
Goddamn that's some serious projection right there.

>>144082624
I think I'm just in deep Armored Core withdrawal. That fucking mech actually got me excited from dead disgust.

>>144082672
I was actually about to complain about being bored of DaS3, but then that happened.
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>>144082665
make mommy slider drink 10 heinekens every day until character comes out
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>>144082482
Wrong thread?

>>144082536
Questline progresses as usual, but after Aldrich you'll find here where you fought Horace instead of near the Cathedral.
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Is the whip finally useful in DaS3 or still only usable on 1% of the bestiary?
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What would be the hardest hitting riposte weapon for an SL 25 twink with 10 Dex and Str?

Or am I better off taking a couple of points off my 27 vit and putting some into str or whatever
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>>144082789
useful as side weapon
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>>144082789
If you want a greatsword speed weapon with deceptively low range and no damage seek no further.
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>>144082818
Probably raw mail-breaker
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>>144082789
Witch's Lock is top-tier in pvp
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>>144082789
Witch's locks are great.
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>>144082789
It's better than a scythe.
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Any slow boss in Dark Souls? Something like a Storm King 2.0?

>>144082978
They're cool, so shut your pie hole before I invade you.
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>>144081918
Might do SL100. For all the bitching anon does about PVP meta for every game I never notice a difference. Might get me more varied invasions though. Honestly, I feel like 100 might make it easier since the 120s can't invade.

>>144082058
And yes, the point was to make a generic, no gimmicks katana user. Made quality already, planning Judgement, STR rogue, and Drang Spears.
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>>144083013
120 is a host level. Godly for dried finger runs. Bonus points if you have way of the blue for non-stop red vs blue action.
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>>144083008
watch out everyone there's this guy with 10 vig at level 120 that might invade you
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>>144083109
Just according to keikaku
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>>144083185
Learn English punctuation.
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>>144083270
thanks for the tip level your vig
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>>144082665
Why do you want to look like a baby?
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>Watching PTS
>Summons Purple
>He's a chugger
>Another purple invades, didn't see first purple chug
>PTS starts getting low HP vs. the chugger
>Chugs
>Other purple ganks him for healing

Glad I'm not the only person that's happened to, hah.
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>>144082750
>Game about cycles
>Flat out just reuses materials with no reasoning
Fucking hell this some next level shit. Explain to me why a game about cycles flat out lifts from Dark 1 with no reasoning? The return of Anor Londo? Artorias fanboys despite this being years in the future? Gwyndolin? Yorshka? Most of the game is just a remix of Dark 1 areas and concepts with token DS2 references strown here and there with some Bloodborne speed gameplay. What actually is new in DS3? Not a lot bar weapon arts. FP was Demon's Souls for fuck sake. It's a regression. It moved backwards instead of forwards.

It had perfect pedigree (Dark Souls 2 being Untapped Potential: The Game) and it was wasted on making a bland Souls experience with no depth to it. Instead we got Poison Bog 2.0, Tower of Latria 2.0 and so on. It's all a 2.0 except it's not even an improvement.
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cool game family share doesn't work gg.
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>>144082393
>need to use two items to become dragon
Down syndrome isn't very becoming, anon.
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>>144083382
Those 60FPS tho amirite
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>>144083382
meanwhile i got this in less than two days with 5 years old account
and one of my characters will soon have 100 ears in knight roster
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>>144083339
holy fucking shit get a girlfriend you turbo autist

>i dont want this sequel to have ANYTHING from the previous games. nothing. i want new textures, new environments, new everything. why didnt miyazaki do a space level? talentless hack.
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>wanted a GB build
>GBs suck
>GB arrows cost a million souls

Whelp, I guess I'm going Darkmoon Faith/Mag now and in NG+.

I feel as though the easiest way to play the game (greatsword smashfest) is also the best way to play the game and the only way they want you to play the game.
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>>144083452
I just want to blue berry, don't even want the items. ring would be cool but what ever.
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>>144083382
cuckmoons in all their glory
>>144083421
it more like a storytelling thing, i realize that can pose an annoyance. why else would hawkwood try to mug you if he has the superior stone?
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>>144083452
It's more about how long you have been playing DS3 with that acc
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>>144083469
>Straw-manning again
Fucking hell, you're an idiot.
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>>144083475
obscuring ring greatbow shenanigans on low levels are amazing, best sniping in the franchise after artillery strikes with church cannon
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>introduce paired weapons
>no rapier/dagger combo

why is From so bad at being fun?
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>>144083523
Well you still need the head stone if you want to breathe fire. What kind of shit dragon can't breathe fire?
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>>144083535
>there's only one person in this thread who disagrees with my shit opinion
get a job loser
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>>144083568
Wouldn't it just be rapier with offhand parrying dagger? What else could you ask for? It already parries and attacks.
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>>144083297
Why not?
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Dude how the fuck do you raviolli step from neutral? I can't do it.
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>>144083527
Even though more than 100 hours of those are idling i still manage to max out darkmoons on my every character and i have 9 of them.
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>>144083625
Cool combos that incude slashing with the dagger? The WA could be parry or super shield splitter
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>>144083602
Fucking what are you even trying to say?
>He didn't like DS3 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE INSULT INSULT HIM
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How can I get DS1 to work with my ps4 controller? Ds2 and Ds3 work fine if i connect the controller while loaded into a character.
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>>144083568
There's already two paired weapons that have daggers. What we really need are paired catalysts.
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>>144083650
backstep is broken since everything down to running is queued. you have to stand still for about a second before pressing the button or else you stand there like a pillock. if you mash, you backstep twice. its a fucking sham.
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>>144083625

>Do this
>Press l1
>Character blocks with the parrying dagger

Gee whiz. What else could we possibly ask for.
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>>144083331
>saying that expecting people to know what shitty eceleb pts is
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>>144083656
i am so sorry
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>>144083568
for fun weapons play in bb, it has a dagger/katana that forms a twinblade
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>>144083728
think whatever you want about the game, i couldn't care less, but when your argument is "wahhhh they reused textures and referenced the previous games" then it's clear you spend way too much time in your room.
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>>144083728
Not everything is an insult, anon. Sometimes they are just poking fun at you.
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>>144083339
Who the fuck cares if they borrow from other games they made? And why is anything using a similar theme 2.0? Do you want the chosen undead in space or something?
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>>144083823
fuck that bow is gay as shit
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>offhand handmaid dagger
>"ha ha now I can look cool and use the side stab to ignore shields"
>press l2
>character does some sort of retarded downwards stab with the dagger
>literally no range
>l1
>blocks with the dagger
>run and press l2
>character stops and does the retard stab
>literally completely and absolutely useless
That's it I am done.
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>>144083823
o&u
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>>144083828
>Literally can be quoted for several insults
I dunno man, he seems pretty fucking triggered to me.

>>144083826
>I couldn't care less!
>Is the one who started shit
LIKE POTTERY.
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>>144083742
No matter how long I delay the directional input I get a roll.

>>144083794
I figured most of the posters on here know who PraiseTheSun is.

Really though the story was more important than who it happened to.

Stay unnecessarily caustic though.
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>>144083880
you didnt have patience to figure out how to use it correctly yet you had enough to type and post this
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>>144083873
I'm just being polite, my friend.
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>>144083880
There are no weapons that can use offhand weapon arts, what did you expect?
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>>144083873
there are like 5 bow gestures in bloodborne

>>144083937
again, assuming i'm the person you first started replying to. 10/10
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>>144083880
are you sure you didn't parry? tried 2handing it?
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>>144083950
>I figured most of the posters on here know who PraiseTheSun is.
never fucking heard of him
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>>144083954
I'm not switching to twohanding the offhand dagger just for that, I wanted a fun offhand move that was of some use, but instead it was apparently necessary to make it a literal waste to hold the weapon alongside a different weapon.
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>>144083950
>>144084007
Oh maybe he means the gesture?
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>>144083982
Off-hand Handmaid's dagger doesn't parry. I use it with my Farron Funsword so I can pretend I'm attacking with its dagger.

It's completely fucking useless.
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>>144084031
i feel ya
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>>144084059
You already attack with the dagger when you press L1.
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>>144083972
>I-it wasn't me!
Holy shit Anon, did we peak this early in the day?
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>>144084150
Embarassing.
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Why even put the darkmoon longbow in the game if it's going to be so shitty?
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>>144084150
It's pretty terrible in here right now.
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Carthus Curved Sword is pretty strong.
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>>144084240
Why put any bow in the game that isn't called Composite Bow?
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>>144084240

Why even put the Darkmoon covenant in the game when it's going to be broken and a literal 1:1 clone of the Blue Sentinels?
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>>144084150
>>144084217
>>144084247
>Implying /dsg/ isn't bad 24/7
First mistake right there.
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>>144084315
Well of course it's always awful. But sometimes it's better or worse.
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>>144084240
>dorkmoon and onislayer bow claim the special is improved when using their own arrows
>dorkmoon's only adds a wee bit more of damage
>onislayer fired from the special stance still do less damage than stance greatarrows, have the same piercing effect, fly in the same pattern, at the same speed and without the knockdown effect
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>>144084315
yet you keep coming back ;^)
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Good weapons to think about for a dex/faith build?
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>>144084562
Estoc.
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>2012+4
>twinking in parish
>on ps3
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Holy shit dark souls 2 armors look so much better, what the fuck were they thinking with the ports in das3?

They are all out of proportions and with awful textures, they ruined elite knight, alva and everything

god damnit
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>>144084539
Never said I was any better, just highlighting where we are.
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>>144081728
I like how you went for the extra hit, not expecting him to already be dead.
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>>144084620
>rotten pieces of clothing that make most of the generic suits of armor not work for mixing and matching
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>>144084620
>Complimented DS2
>Talked smack about DS3
>In the same post
FOOL! YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!
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>>144084620
>They are all out of proportions
This I'll give you. They're all sized like all your body settings are 150.

Textures are as good or better than DaS2's.
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>>144084315
>implying /dsg/ doesn't hate all Souls game for stupid reasons
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>DS3 is now filled with kids summoning 2 phantoms, using meme builds and praising the sun XD

you caused this
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>>144084562
Dragonslayer (Sword)Spear
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>>144080031
Ranking of the SOULS games based on what they have or don’t have compared to the other titles
Das3 > Das1 > Des > Das2

Das3
Pros:
>weapon arts
>best bosses
>bosses with two phases
>boss music changes with the phases
>blood splatter
>offers different interpretations to the lore
>DLC’s will only make it better
Cons:
>worst poise
>worst covenants
>able to summon people at any level with a password

Dark Souls
Pros:
>best characters
>best music
>best poise
>best covenants
>best DLC (as of now)
Cons:
>need a mod to play properly
>too many bosses that turn into normal enemies
>worst aesthetic

Demon’s Souls
Pros:
>best aesthetic
>best enemies
>best level design
Cons:
>30 fps
>can only be played on a 7th gen console
>world tendency

Das2
Pros:
>power stance and offhand moveset
>best NG+
>bonfire ascetics
Cons:
>worst control
>worst bosses
>worst level design
>enemies with tracking
>charged for a complete edition with separate servers
>weapons degrade faster when played at 60 fps
>SOUL MEMORY
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>>144084620
Faraam looks way better in 3.
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>>144084708
>Only DS3 can be criticized in the general for all Soulsborne games
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>>144084614
That's just sad.

Like, really, really sad.

But, those are the kind of people who twink.
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>>144084817
....That is like the exact opposite of what I said Anon. Do you need the joke explained out?

>>144084773
>DLC can only make it better
Don't say that, FROM will see it as a challenge.
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>>144084240
why change it to be int scaling when int gets loads of ranged spells while faith has none?
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>>144079797
>Soulsborne
Stop with that bullshit. I tried Dark and Blood and couldn't find the general.
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>tfw no souls bf
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>>144083823
That dude was fucked from the start. The weapon matchup was just way too one-sided.
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>>144084981

If only there was another term you could use to quickly find these generals.
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>>144084937
>....That is like the exact opposite of what I said Anon. Do you need the joke explained out?

It was a preemptive jab at anyone who disagreed with the post.
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How the fuck would a Far West Souls game works, with all the emphasis on firearms?
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>>144085046
OH! I get'cha, sorry.
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>>144085052

It wouldn't.
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>>144085046
thats what inb4 is used for
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>setz won't draw Dark Souls 3
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>>144084981
Bullshit. Also, if you aren't searching "/dsg/" then you are a retard.

Hell just go to >>>/vg/dsg and bookmark it, you moron.

If you aren't smart enough to do any of that then the threads are better off without you.
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>>144084614
I saw a twink in Blighttown a few hours ago.
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>>144085078
>sorry
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>>144085148
>>144084614
it was me

I never stop twinking the parish and blighttown
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>>144085136
>implying a tripfag's opinion is worth anything
Hush, the grown-ups are speaking.
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>>144085148
That's around the time invaders start being beatable in DaS1 tbqh

At least the ones that don't know how to do anything but spam black flame, anyway
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>>144085136
that's hilarious coming from you

the single worst thing these generals have had to deal with for 5 years
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>>144085227
I beat DaS1 twinks in the parish using the Drake sword and BS abuse.

The thing about twinks is that they suck at PvP. That's why the are twinking in the first place.
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If theres any good drawfags they should draw Lucifer wearing girl's clothes getting "bullied" by /dsg/ anons. Kind of like a interpretation of pic related.

Maybe if no one does it I'll commission it.
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>>144085329
Nobody care about your blogging.
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>>144085364
But how does he look like?
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>>144085364
fuck no

lucifer is a fat, sweaty, greasy faggot with a triple neck and a beard that connects to his chest hair

a drawfriend should draw lucifer chocking to death on a corndog
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>>144085420
17 years old, overweight, one of those gross teenage neckbeards going on. has a mega-milk t-shirt.
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>>144085329
I'd always rush the hornet ring on new characters just to make chaining twinks easier. I miss having to actually worry about invaders.
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>people talking about bloodborne in souls general
Take your shitty game and go
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>>144085364
That'd be a waste of money. Here, I did it for free.
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>>144085580
>soulsborne general
>s-stop talking about other game!
may as well get mad at people who talk about demon souls
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>>144085450
>>144085543
Well nevermind, you guys fucking ruined it. He was a feminine sissy boy slut with devil horns in my head but now I just see a neckbeard.
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>>144085242
>for 5 years
Didn't he like vanish for a year because of the d_invader salt?
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>>144085580
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Trying to make a Pontiff Sulyvahn cosplay

It's not very good
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>>144085664
>feminine sissy boy slut with devil horns
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>>144084587
>pic related

>>144084767
Word I'll look into it
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>>144085664
idk mang, I see a stickfigure. >>144085650
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>host and his 2 friends who he keeps resummoning
passwords were a mistake
>>
>>144085713

>using this image when the sequel is out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNQcdThO4ZA
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>>144085689
>d_invader salt
Please elaborate
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>>144084940
I won't be buying the next souls game. I'm sick of miracles and faith builds being shat on.
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>>144085571
I'd usually Rush the Elite Knight Armor, Knight Shield, Drake Sword, Havel Ring and Hornet Ring, specifically choosing that gear to make me look like a noob. They never expected the roll hornet stabs. It was especially funny when they were using lightning Zweis, making it even less likely they could ever touch me.

That combo is especially fun to win with at level 120/125. Try beating someone with it then sending them a message apologizing for using an OP weapon like the Drake sword. The reactions are always entertaining.
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>>144085742
No problem man, always glad to see someone else try a faith build.
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>>144085754

>Let's kill twinking by turning host worlds into gang rape squads with level 120 +10 phantoms being chain summoned
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>>144085867
See >>144085650
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>>144085719
It is.
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I don't know why there's still no dual audio in Dark Souls 3. Would rather play with the original Japanese voices if I can.
>>
>>144085867
Lose some weight, grow your hair out and start waxing fatty. If youre going to be an attention whore who needs all the senpais noticing them, then you'd better look presentable.
>>
>>144085808
>shittalked kobra for not perfecting D
>participates in D's fightclub and has to heal against a zwei user while using a spear
>gets called a girl onstream for making excuses
>fights D and loses
Shit was hilarious.
>>
Daily reminder all it takes to kill a magic is user is a running R1 washing pole poke. Magic is not viable in PVP when 1 single attack can shut down ALL magic users.
>>
>>144085580

>15 months later he's still mad
>>
>>144086083
>fag tries a washing pole running R1
>Unfaltering Prayer Sunlight Spear
>dead
>>
>Dark Sword
>Havel's Greatshield
lmao
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>>144085580

Cant help it when Dark Souls 3 is so fucking shit in comparison.
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>>144085998
Really now?
There's no headwear or crown that looks like him, so I had to improvise using Lorian's crown and make my face and hair look like the rest.
It's garbage, but hey it's the only thing I can come up with.
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>>144085902
It seems they really sped up the cast time for offensive miracles so I thought I'd give it a go since it served me so well in das2
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>>144086134
He can roll before you finish casting and you won't hit him. I guarantee this and I'll be your love slave if I'm wrong.
>>
>>144086059
You mean I was beating a Zwei user. He wanted a reset. I gave it to him. D had a fit of autistic rage, killed the Zwei user, and I said fuck it and just crystalled out.

Nice revisionist history though, D. I am sure a few of minority of anons that dislike would have actually believed you.
>>
>>144086137

Is the range really that fucking nuts on that thing?
>>
>>144086137

That range is retarded.
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>>144086237
Yeah, the range on whips is absolutely bonkers
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>Be glass cannon sorcerer
>1 shot people sometimes
>get one shotted sometimes

I don't see the issue. Why are people complaining?
>>
How does poisse works in DaS3? Apparently, in 2, it was cumulative over time, but in the third, it seems totally random whether the enemy staggers or not.
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Yo, could someone post the Lucifer tripfag build pic?
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>>144086179
You can buff both swords? I thought you lost weapon buffs when you 2-hand your other weapon.
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>>144086137
>muh broken l2
Great job
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>>144086381

Stay mad Rub
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>>144086324

>How does poise work in DaS3?
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>>144086370
You can buff Judgement and then use one handed heavy charge attacks to get some fire on your Profaned for a second or so.
>>
>Been using the carthus curved sword and greatsword combo because they go good with my fashion and I like the movesets
>Get a hatemail after killing an invader saying I'm a "assfuck" for using them because they're OP

O-ok
>>
>>144086421
It's as bad as dark sword spam, so naturally you'd jump to the defense.
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>>144086324
You have to stand still for a while then it will charge up your poise. After you get hit once, you have to do it again.
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>>144086457
>trusting fanmail
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>>144086472

Dark Sword was nerfed and is shit now.
>>
>>144086324
Some enemies (only bosses, I think?) stagger based on damage. Anything else uses the usual poise rules.

>>144086427
It exists for NPCs
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>>144086381
/dsg/ will never be happy.
>>
>>144086534
>/dsg/ will never be happy.
QUOTED
FOR
TRUTH
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>>144086137
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>>144086515

>It works for NPCs

Only giant ones. Even Havel the fucking Rock can be stunlocked with a dagger.
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>>144086534

Could you stop using weapons I dont like? Is triggering the shit out of me. I am literally shaking right now.
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>>144086514
They're nowhere near shit, especially when Demon Fists are still in the game.
I invade with those things as a fucking joke, and they're +5
>>
>>144086573
>QUOTED
>FOR
>TRUTH

Get the fuck out
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>>144086381

>a guy kills a Havel's Greatshield + Dark Sword retard with a whip
>he STILL complains

/dsg/ in a nutshell right here everyone
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>>144086607

Dark Wraiths have poise.

> Even Havel the fucking Rock can be stunlocked with a dagger.


No way
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>>144086658
People were complaining about a broken straight sword in a FC.
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>>144084763
>see game doesn't have much replayability
>"well at least this way around june there will be actual invasions that aren't 4v1"
>invade
>still an endless stream of white and gold
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>>144086658
There is literally nothing wrong with greatshields. I mean, Fromsoft already adjusted their efficiency, what more do you want?
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>>144086534
> R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1 R1
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>no fluted armor
>no Yurt armor
>none of Bloodborne's sets
>none of Bloodborne's weapons

Come on, From
This is supposed to be the big fa service game and you've failed to deliver

>yfw the DLC will be the cut sixth area from DeS
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>>144086694
Can you start using cute anime avatars please?
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>>144086658
>hitting from full room-length through shields is a skillful accomplishment
Your webm is shit bud
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>>144086628
Cry more.
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>>144086694
Hah, you're kidding. Could you show me those posts?
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>>144086706
>not enjoying cum and piss in your bloody red asshole
The japs love this shit. Overcoming challenges as an invader is rewarding as fuck.
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>>144081304

Bloodlust could have been so much cooler

The weapon art should have been like hold only you pull it out of yourself instead of the sheath

The WA currently is bordering on useless because it's slow and clunky, damages you, and the buff lasts 15 whopping seconds
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>>144085754
>you can replace summons killed while the invader is in your world
no reason for this to be a thing
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>>144086762
>being this mad
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>>144086706
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>>144086775
It was just someone that was bragging about winning with a broken straight sword in a FC that was full of joke builds. No one was complaining about the weapon, they were just telling the guy to fuck off.
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>>144086864
Lucifer being a liar?
What a surprise.
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POST YOUR SNAKES
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>>144086943
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>>144086864
I recall some anon saying something in a sarcastic way, like
>">it's fine to use a straightsword if it's the broken sword"
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>>144086721

>stop using the attack button faggot hurrrrr
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>>144086943
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>>144086943
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>ENB beat NK after a very short time of getting used to him and almost first try
Our guy...
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>>144086943
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>>144086738
No, that is a rule violation.

>>144086775
See: >>143168946
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>>144087004
>mashing attack is now a legitimate strategy in this thread
>>
Ten more fucking ears for DMB and my all miracle / Dark Soul achievement ive commitment genocide on those poor knights
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>people complaining about whips and one that counters greatshields of all fucking things
jesus christ
i knew this general was full of shitters but this is something new
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>>144087091
>see
based retard
>>144087034
enjoy your ban as well
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>>144082818
I've been rocking a sl20 twink with about 22 vit after chains and I just don't take damage. 27 is pretty overkill
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>>144086943
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>>144087091
See >>144085650
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I NEED to know what is the best SL and upgrade level to be at to avoid turbo cancer tryhard meta shit but also get lots of invasion/summons for bosses
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>>144086968
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>>144087034
>tfw im not that snek
life isn't fair
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>>144080292
Couldn't he just BC you?
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>>144087107

>I said stop using the attack button to attack! I keep losing to it! omg!
>>
Need some advice /dsg/. Need to do one final playthrough for the Usurper of Fire ending. So that means I can't cheese by getting Anri's Straight Sword and buffing luck.

Aside from Bleed (which doesn't really come till, what, after AW?), what are some other cheesy strats I can use?
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>>144087251
You only look like a mental patient when you do it anon. Take off your fallen knight set too.

It's for your own good.
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>>144087187
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>>144087107
It is as long as it is effective. It is up to you to counter them, not up to them to hold you hand.
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>Ornstein left to search for the Nameless King
So it's canon that the O&S boss fight is an illusion? Why does that illusion hurt so much though?
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>>144086943
have a slime with a corpse on top instead.
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>>144087107

If it works then sure why not? Did you got rekt by it? Show me where the R1 touched you anon.
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>>144087307
Not him but have you ever seen the R2's on Reapers? They're godawful.
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>>144087339
This. If someone keeps mashing the attack button because they are hitting you there's something extremely wrong with how you play.
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>>144086137
wow
i didn't know the snakeman chain axe was in the game
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>>144087329
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>>144087004
>>144087107
>>144087251
>>144087307
>/dsg/ will never be happy.
IT WAS A JOKE YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
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>>144087329

I love this artist so god damn much. Too bad he hasnt put anything new recently.
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>>144086818
>stab yourself
>shamble instead of slowwalking
>charges up your bleed buildup as your hold it
>buff lasts for however long your bleed meter is on screen
>attacks done while bleeding add just as much bleed to the opponent
>if you hold it too long it procs your bleed and chunks you
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>>144087407
Don't be silly, Snekmen Chain Axe doesn't have that much range
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>>144087345
wrong image, fuck.
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>>144087458
Maybe he's playing dark souls 3
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FC where?
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>>144087429
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>>144087362
Yeah that's no lie, but outskilling somebody with proper spacing and feints is way more entertaining than hurr i killed a retard by r1 spamming
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>doing a sorcerer run
>obviously magic is not good for PVP so I equip way of the blue
>keep getting invaded
>blueberries never show up to help me

Fucking useless cops.
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>>144086818
It's sad really, considering how powerful the Chikage was in BB.
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>>144087470
Thats what these gimmick weapons should be, but never will be. Fuck FROM and their boring ass longsword meme
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>>144087562
Just get the obscuring ring and cheese people.
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>>144086037
English voices are original, this has been the case for the entire series.
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>>144087559
Truth be told, I'm impressed that the guy in the webm managed to kill something with a Reaper, no matter how. It's up to the invader whether or not he's going to get hit by brainless R1 spam.
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>>144083253
What chest pieces are allowed?
I'm looking at all the sets and all I see that fits is Master's Attire, Brigand and Gundyr's Chest
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>>144087470
>tfw this would actually give me a reason to play the game
>instead I can enjoy my no fun weapons
D-darn.
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>>144087578
>literally zero recycled content in bloodborne, all built lovingly from scratch
>like fucking 75% recycled content in ds3, as usual

i miss trick weapons
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sry mr janny i wont break the rules again.
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What weapon is this?
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>>144087687
pontiff knight scythe
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>>144087578

I prefer the Bloodletter. So much more satisfying to get people with that AOE.
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>>144086037
FROM never recorded any dialogue in Japanese. It has always been English for the souls series.

The only Japanese you can get is text.
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>>144087687
Pontiff scythe, the guy b4 pontiff drops it
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>>144087687
>Falling for the frostbite meme

wew
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>>144086818
>unique WA
>worse than generic war cry
wew
>>
Did Pineapple make a video about the exile curved gs or something? I'm seeing a shitload of people using it at pontiff.
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>Start thief
>thinking gundyr is going to be a bitch because I started with a dagger
>he literally dies in 10 seconds from all the bleed

Wow, Bandit's knife is pretty good.
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>>144087548
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>>144087847
no but some e-celeb did
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>>144087847
I recall some big streamer using it, but I don't remember who it was.

That aside, it's probably the highest damage weapon you can use that can still hit people who are paying attention.
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>>144086137
>that fucking combination of both retarded range and third world p2p
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>>144086775
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>>144087470
>takes an existing mechanic and touches it up just enough to be unique
no no bad gaijin, what you do is you make it a 15s damage buff button and gut the weapon's moveset.
don't forget about lowering the damage so that it deals completely average damage in case a hit connects during those 15s
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>>144087663
then only those or naked
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>>144087990
fucking kek
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>>144087879
Q: does the bleed dmg scale with the bleed aux effect? or is the bleed number in the weap. just an status infliction stat rather than a dmg?
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>>144088131
No
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>>144087559
>expecting faithfuls to be able to deal with spacing and feints
>when they can't deal with R1 mashing first
That'd be bullying anon, and bullying is wrong.
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>>144086943
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>>144088243
This, honestly.
>>
haven't played since the MLGS buff patch a week or two ago

any new patches/changes since? i'm guilty of not really keeping up with the game anymore and i don't know of a good 'changelog' site to track updates on
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>>144088435
nothing
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>>144086864
>joke build
exactly what does that mean? literally all weapons in the game do more damage than a broken straight sword, or is that just pcuck shitter talk for "i-i-i-i wasnt trying im not shit this weapon is just a prank bro!!!"?
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>>144086381
so are we complaining about whips now? what's next? fists?
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>>144088567
my dick
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>>144088131
It's the percentage of the enemy's max hp a bleed proc will deal in damage.
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>>144088567
>complaining about getting whipped and fisted

I thought all us degenerates liked that kind of stuff?
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>>144088567
Kirk's
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Kaathe best skekfu.
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>6 playthroughs and I always accidentally skip 80% of andre's dialogue about hawkwood
Fuck he always says the same shit, I just skip because I always do
;_;
>>
Was this game made by the Monster Hunter developers? I am seeing desynch when doing co op. My phantom parnter sees the crystal sage in a different spot than I do. Or sometimes I get attacked by rats and he is unable to see them.
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>>144088628
the range is too small, needs a buff.
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>>144088357
gonna need a source on that family
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>>144088508
Any ultra weapon is more of a joke than a broken straight sword in DaS3.
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Is the Raw ASS a viable weapon to finish the game? Or would a scaling weapon be better?
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>>144088845
krekk0v
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>>144088845
Krekk0v on tumblr. He occasionally takes requests from here
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>>144088896
It's a straight sword, of course it's viable. It's sure as shit not optimal though.
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>sully weapons aren't paired
>firelink greatsword WA doesn't let you switch between different moveset
>storm ruler doesn't have its DeS knockback
>no paired rapiers
>no paired UGS

Wasted opportunities.
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so Pontiff and his imaginary friend defenetely can desync sometimes
i had imaginary one fly up to do an explosion while the real one tried to stab me in one of the attempts
also, i can't take screenshots properly
fuck my life
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>>144088681
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>>144088862
>ultra weapons
>joke build
>has hyper armor and decent damage that requires a brain for proper spacing and timing
>gets shitted on by a fucking broken sword
yup, just pcucks being shitters again
jesus christ
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>>144088980
What's an early game optimal weapon then? Just want to get through this last playthrough without killing Anri.
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>>144088987
>>sully weapons aren't paired
>their fucking flavour text even tells you what hand he wields each weapon with, but there's no fucking special interaction or anything
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>>144088567
>complaining about whips
The point went right over your head
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>>144089007
if you have summons that tends to happen more often
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>>144089092
powerstanding

;)
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>>144089007
definitely
what the fuck
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>>144089080
>early game
>finish the game
Damn nigga pick one. The entire point of Astora is for early game.
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>>144089142
you fucked up
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>>144089080
Carthus curved sword.
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>>144088508
The only jokes there were the players. They were using "cosplay" as the excuse to get away from builds that normally kicked their asses. The they got their asses kicked by a goddamn broken straight sword of all things and complained anyway.
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>>144089210
or did I
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>>144088987
>paired rapiers
that would be fucking awful
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>>144088357
>draw a girl
>call it a boy
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>>144089173
My goal is to get the last fucking ending I need (Usurper of Fire).

>>144089225
>can only get after AW

Hmm...Raw ASS should carry me till then.
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>>144089268
probably
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Ich will fucken
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>>144089327
>>144089268
>>144089210
>neo jojobronies shitting up the thread now
ugh fuck off
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>sleeper op weapons
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>>144089424
But that Dio is literally from one of the first episodes in season 1. Would you rather have me post cave paintings JoJo?
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>>144088845
http://i.imgur.com/4hGlzQx.jpg
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>>144089498
The range is shit, also almost every weapon is "OP" in the right hands.
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>>144089570
perserverance with a weapon art shield is ridiculous
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>>144089424
>imploding jojo and souls aren't one and the same
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>>144089498
less range damage and speed than a straight sword
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>>144086706
location is key
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>>144089570
hape
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>>144089753
meant harpe*
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holy shit this cannot be happening
first try and i played like shit
NK will take none of that
>>
>>144086706
Invade after Pontiff, if you're 1v3 then just go fuck around somewhere until more faithfuls show up, without finger you can have 1 invader and 3 faithfuls, and with finger it's 2 invaders, meaning at max cap the fight will always be in the invaders favour
>>
>>144089746
Yep, locations are make or break.

I found the dungeon to be a great place to invade, very easy to use the mobs against gank squads and lot of potential ambush places in case they pop a seed
>>
Are there somewhere stats on how much chance of bleed you get for each luck level?
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>>144081846
Looks good, you can probably drop 5 points from endurance. Katana's benefit from a slightly larger buffer because of their hold art.

Also note that while the chaos blade seems bad, it has the best parry frames on its hold. Same startup and active frames as a small shield from within stance. Also the time it takes to enter hold and then parry is just about the time it would take to successfully parry the third swing of most two handed weapons.

So if you like katana parries, chaos blade is the way to go.
>>
>>144089498
morning star does the same shit and is better

range is still shit
>>
>>144089521
>>144089637
id rather you jojo cancers not post here at all
theres literally an entire board of anime just for you to talk there, fuck off, do you have an autism stand?
>>
>>144082482
D.Va's the only character I've ever played in overwatch.

Nothing is as satisfying as blind siding an entire enemy team by launching your self destructing mech into them from 30 meters in the air.
>>
Dear diary, today I managed to get summoned as a Dorkmoon once.
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>>144090164
>no fun allowed
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why is he our guy?
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>tfw lighting drakeblood GS could be a perfect weapon for faith builds if it never had magic damage and instead its damage was added to base lighting one
>>
When are they going to fix fucking infusions already??
>>
>>144088862
I think the cosplayers just didn't care a whole lot about winning. Which was fine, because I don't either. I cared about winning in DS2 and I won 99% of my matches until I realized winning all the time isn't as fun.

So in DS3 I goof off in pretty much all of my matches. I'm sure there are a few people here who do similarly. I don't want to get good, because things start getting stale once you do.
>>
Why are you guys bullying Lucy so much? /dsg/ should be kept a bully free zone.
>>
>>144090646
From never makes mistakes so why would they fix anything
>>
>>144090810
Thanks for taking off your trip, Lucy, now don't put it back on
>>
>>144090412
why do we even need one?
>>
>>144090728
Actually, things don't get fun until you get good and start fighting other people that did too.
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Why are invaders so stupid? I want to stop using untrue ring because every invader goes for me but if I take it off I look like a prune
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>>144087548
make more please, muh dick loves these
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>>144089753
I can reliably kill people with a bleed infused harpe on my luck character, though I hear Carthus rogue is better.
>>
>>144090905
no, that's when you and your opponent spend the rest of eternity circling around each other with your havelshields up
>>
>attempt to invade dungeon
>nothing after 5 minutes
>attempt to invade settlement
>nothing after 5 minutes
>>
>>144088357
summoning krekkov, i need my daily dose of gwyndolin dong
>>
>>144091165
Enjoying your bun?
>>
>>144089092
>sully weapons aren't paired
>you can't merge his weapons into a paired UGS
>when you can merge the twin prices' sword
>>
Do merchants keep their stock in NG+?
>>
>>144091165
>regret of levelling to 120 sinking in
>>
>>144091287
No, you have to collect all the ashes again.
>>
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with this
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>>144090646

>have 60 Int
>infuse spear with crystal
>instead of dealing just magic damage it gets phys/mag split damage
>low base value for both types of damage on top of that
>''luckily it gets S-scaling in Intelli-...''
>''....+130 dmg''
>mfw
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wow you can actually stagger chicken with your bare hands
>>
>>144091313
He's probably closer to 180 if that's happening.

At 120 I have no troubles getting constant invasions in pretty much any area.
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>>144091362
>179
nothing wrong in deed
>>
>>144091313
100.
>>
>>144091362
I only just realized today that (sometimes?) with hyper armor you take no damage at all
>poising through bosses and shitter PVPers with stomp on the FUGS
>>
>>144091364
when will people realize that scaling is a function of base damage?
S scaling means nothing if the base is ass
>>
>>144091364
If Crystal made it all magic damage instead of split maybe we would be getting somewhere. It sucks that infusions other than Raw and Refined are fucking worthless.
>>
>>144091362
okay?
what is wrong with it? the fact that you took no damage, or the fact that you delt no damage?
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>>144091362
ah...... so this....... is the power..... of....... the great...... wooden...... hammer.......
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>>144087341

There is no other explanation. According to 3's lore Ornstein and Smough did separate things even though they merged either way during the boss battle in Dark Souls 1. I mean they both "Died" in that fight but they also did the fusion dance on top of that.
But according to that very same lore Smough also remained in Anor Londo.
Who even knows anymore
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>>144091364
>>144091526
just tumblebuff & CMW it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOCdmeeob6A
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>>144091364

I'm sorry but are you using a weapon that isn't a Quality Estoc?

I'm sending From a message so they can ban your account for not strictly following their enforced meta of overpowered generic garbage for 7 patches in a row.

I mean what right do you have to think that Infusions should be more than worthless garbage? Are you entitled? Them being a complete waste of time and space is obviously working as intended just like poise.
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>>144091506
Stomp lowers damage done to you during the stance of it.
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>>144091507

Hello einstein

Because of split damage the base value for dark/fire/lightning/crystal will always be low
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>>144091362
I like how Fromsoft thought the problem with MLGS was the damage. Same goes for Washing Pole.

I can't wait for the inevitable estoc "nerf" where it loses like 10 AR and has its moveset untouched.
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Cosplaying Spawn, any ideas for weapons? Pyromancy viability?

Some Axe+witch's locks? Armor suggestions?
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>>144091530
The fact that the MLGS WA aims into the ground for no fuckin' reason.
I mean my damage is also sad but I brought that on myself.
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>>144091594
Yes we are aware of tumblebuff, but unfortunately my crystal weapon tumblebuffed won't be as good as a refined weapon buffed without a glitch.
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>>144090412
>got bored of Dark Souls 3 after a few months despite being a pillar of the community
>went back to fucking Ultima Online of all things

He's the one we need, that's for sure.
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>>144091652
what would you change about Moonlight's moveset?
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>>144091652
They just need to slow it down a bit and speed up the uncharged r2s. In fact the same fix could be applied to multiple shitter weapons.
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>>144090412

I respected him, until I saw him playing Metal Gear.
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>>144091718
scrap it and replace with bb version
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>tfw dual wielding curved blade user
>tfw can't parry for shit, dodge like a motherfucker instead
How do I git gud in PvP, /dsg/?
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>>144091571
The Smough in that fight wasn't real, he was an illusion like Gwynevere and the Silver Knights. Only Ornstein was actually present. Both souls give 12,000 if you break them but feeding Smough's soul to Fraampt reveals it's a fake and it only gives you 1 soul.
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>>144091718
make it literally the ds1 mlgs
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>>144091692
but thjat clearly hit you, not the ground, it did literally 0 damage.
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>>144091712
>people cant play other games
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REEE

WHY CANT I FULFILL MY ROLEPLAYING FANTASIES OF USING A GOOD WEAPON WITH ELECTRICITY INFUSION
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>>144091718

Make the two-handed R2 not completely useless shit, or make it so that every single enemy in the game now exclusively crawls along the ground.

Maybe make all spells now arbitrarily and pointlessly aim at the fucking floor for no reason.
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Why did From even put the magic and faith infusion in this game?
Crystal Magic Weapon and Lightning blade give more damage than both of them...
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>>144091652
>I like how Fromsoft thought the problem with MLGS was the damage. Same goes for Washing Pole.
And every fucking school of magic.
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>>144090412
literally who?

>>144091935
I've never had the energy waves strike the ground unless I was actually aiming at the ground, or there was something in the way.

How are you people having trouble with this?
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>>144091893
The Greatsword of judgement does the same thing, for whatever reason when locked on the wave attack goes down at an angle rather than just being horizontal and can sometimes decide it hit the ground even when it clips through somebody. So you just don't hit with it even though it clearly smashed through someone's pelvis.
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>>144091870
Probably a mistake and Ornstein is the one who left for archdragon peak and got his butt slapped
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>>144091959
So you can deal some damage without buffs.
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>>144091959
only for a lilited time though boi
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So it begins.
Still think it's the worst caster class although heal efficiency is godly, 3 casts of enormous aoe that heals like 1.3k hp per ash estus is great.
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>>144092029
in this case the attack would go down at an angle because the other character was at a lower level than the attacker.

When characters are on level ground it's always just shot out straight for me, I've never had it just veer down, it's always done that because I aimed the camera that way.
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>>144092131
>infusing my weaponfu with lightning
stop...... now......
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>>144079797
>Fucking a guy up so bad that he's forced to rely on parry fanning with hornet ring for a chance in hell to win
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>>144092131
I did a cleric playthrough with two buddies. I pretty much made it so we never needed to rest at bonfires, just full clear levels while relying on my ashtus heals.

Was very enjoyable.
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>really want to try a miracle build
>whole fucking thing relies on the gimmick of baiting retards into having you facetank hits while you weapon art sun spear them
>if they are wise to it, you have no chance

Nice game memezaki
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K. O.!
i'm so happy right now
this run is nuts
apparently, stagger is damage based after all, because this guy couldn't stagger him at all on NG+7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7Cht-0u2MQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdByf0lP-qM

So while we wait for the DLC to come and (hopefully) fix DS3, where are you hoping the DLCs will take us? Who will we fight?

Personally. I will be extremely salty if there are no primordial serpents. There's no way in fucking hell that these puppet masters behind the entirety of Dark Souls 1 are now just minding their own business in fuck-all nowhere.
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>tfw gankers use point down
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>>144092279
Critical Stagger is based on damage and hitbox.

For example, you're never going to critical stagger oceiros if you don't hit his phase.

Same for the stormdrake, and plenty of other things.

I think yhorm only critical staggers on head hits and arm hits.
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>Be fromsoft
>dont really give a shit about the souls series anymore because new IP, loads of money and Bloodborne is still selling great in the only place we care about, Japan
>see an opportunity to grab some extra cash for one last time
>Copy and paste a bunch of shit from the previous souls games into the Bloodborne engine
>Disable poise and disregard balance because fuck it
>Shit it out for consoles along with the token trash PC port
>People gobble it up


Fromsoft literally cannot lose. Too big to fail.
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Can invaders see the embers coming out of your body when you are hidden with a tree branch?
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>>144092131
build pls? this looks like fun and im tired of 40/40 quality
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>>144092384
Yes, you can stop this by wearing an untrue white ring to turn off ember particles.
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>>144092387
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>>144090201
There's no way I could play that game, but goddamn that mech looks fun as fuck.
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>>144092017

It's a slight over-exaggeration but the point remains the same - the Beam sails at a downward angle from the actual straight path it should travel (i.e. where at you aim)

This means it will hit the ground before it has completed its full flight/travel duration. On flat elevations the beam is cut short, and if you're on a slope then you will never hit anything above you even if it's at almost the same elevation as you.

The one-handed R2 travels much farther, which some people have argued is a deliberate balance thing except the beam is vertical and thus has a smaller AoE against groups. The two handed R2 quite obviously is meant to follow the exact same elevation but doesn't because From are incompetent as usual.

At no point in previous games did the weapon behave like this.

The result is they have buffed a weapon by giving it bullshit damage on its regular swings, but not fixing why it was actually bad, in that its special effect was literally not working properly.

Another balance change that rewards mindless flailing and punishes unique features. What the fuck?
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>>144091712

That's just smart. DaS3 wasn't that good.
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>>144092131
worse than pyro and sorc? in what ways?
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>>144092371
I meant face.
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>>144092131
sunlight spear is stealth op

>perseverance
>1k trades
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I was playing DS2 recently and I noticed that messages with 100+ appraisals are much more common than they used to be. Did something happen, or is it just me?
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Is Pyromancer good? I've been keeping away from spoilers and shit since launch and just got the game today.
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>>144092815

It works. It's garbage compared to a quality build though
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>add some (5) slabs because fuck
>YOU HAVE BEEN PENALIZED
>oh well, family sharing & new save
>play for pretty long and take a break
>come back today, log into alt
>CAUTION: INVALID GAME DATA
>log into main account where I cheated
>the notification about penalization or invalid data caution is gone
I have stopped questioning everything.
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>>144092203
...I never thought about it like this. Metric tons of salt has disappeared.
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So has the PvP meta been decided for 3 yet? last time i had internet connection epople were still arguing about 80 or 100 or 120
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>SL100
Good gourd
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>>144092815
it's dogshit until you get the rings and chaos orb spell. from there you melt pretty much everything that isn't immune to fire in pve.

in pvp you need to get good at free aiming chaos orbs. if you don't then you'll never hit anyone with a working roll button
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>>144091058
I'll always make more
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>>144092904
Do you really think people have come to a consensus in that amount of time?
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>>144092904
99 & 140.
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>>144091165
If you don't find an invasion right away, cancel your orb and try again.
Generally speaking, if your orb doesn't instantly find someone, then it will take an exceedingly long amount of time to find someone. It's not that there's no eligible target, it's just matchmaking being shit
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>>144092904
PvP meta level*
>People*
fuck me
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>>144091802
>doesn't like metal gear
>likes cancerous DS3 PvP celebrities

wew lad
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>>144092904
120 with people pushing for 125 or higher at the moment
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>>144092904
Yeah, it's 80 or 100 or 120.
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>>144092904
>pvp meta
love this meme

just play wherever you like
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Does the Eleonora buff even last long enough to get a bleed off?
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>>144091506
FUGS stomp literally blocks with the weapon. It has 80% physical damage reduction
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>climb ladder
>press O to start sprinting
>backstep and fall to my death

Hate this fucking game controls.
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>>144092932
Health is a crutch

True players have ten whopping vigor
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>>144092904
Yeah it's been decided:

80, or the entire range that can interact with 120.
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>>144080414
>mfw destroying people with Blood infused Gothard's Twins after they laugh at my shit base damage
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>>144092815
needs 24att min so you can spam chaos orb (which also has to be free aimed)
2 pyro rings + sage is a must

decent but only at 80+
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>get summoned through grape soapstone
>wear white ring
>have no intentions of killing the host
>host just keeps trying to r1 spam my ass with his estoc
>he does this for a good 2 minutes, landed a total of 1 hit
>he gives up
>get invaded
>he runs up to the invader
>destroy his ass
grapes are the most fun covenant
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>>144090412
He's evil where it matters but not elsewhere.
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>>144092941
Good, how long will it take me to get the good shit for pyro?
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>>144093076
They should just let us disable backstep. Completely useless move in this game.
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>>144093095
which range has more shitters for me to wreck?
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How significant is the scaling on Great Chaos Fireball? Or any pyromancy in 3 actually? I want to do a strength pyromancer. Gotta use the Man-Serpent Shotel.
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>>144091709
not if you're 40/40/60 yeah
but it'll be better than raw with CMW
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>>144092904

>>144092981
This is the most honest answer. 99 gives you the largest range of PvP as you'll get the 80 fags, 100 fags, and 120 fags.

140 lets you play with the 120 fags and 150 fags. Of which, 150 has the most potential for versatility.

So really, anywhere from 80 to 150 and you'll have no shortage of multiplayer action. Go wherever you want for now. 142 seems to be the best place for PvE as that's the highest you can go and still see the 120 signs.
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>>144093240

>they removed the iframes

Fucking why? It was so useful in 2.
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>>144093256
40/40 is ~20% stronger than 30/30 before rings
that's all i know
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>>144093227
You can get all the rings and the chaos fire orb after three bosses.
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>>144093243
I don't know which has more, but obviously going lower drives up the effectiveness of bullshit like Straight words, Estocs, and Twinblades, because it drives down the mean HP average.
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>>144093302
neat, 99 it is
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>>144092371
i still think there's something else to it, because Gundyr can stagger in 10 or so hits or not stagger at all, no matter how aggressive you are, while some enemies stagger in a precise amout of hits with a certain weapon
giant crystal lizard in the starting area staggers in 8 estoc hits and crocodile dog on the bridge staggers in 2 two-handed raw ASS R1s to the head
i think stagger might be chance based for some enemies with probability of them staggering increasing with every hit but i'm not very smart
no one will read this anyway
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Is the obscuring ring glitchy or unreliable? I swear half of the time when I invade other players can see me from far away when I'm wearing it

I know that the effective range is reduced after you've been seen until they lose sight of you, but I swear before I ever reveal myself sometimes people just know. I don't have any particles around me like lloyd's ring or something comparable
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>>144093303
The iframes weren't so great. Being able to block while backstepping was the real shit.
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>>144093243
All ranges have shitters, but if you really want to wreck people cap yourself between 30-50 and with a dickass invader
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>>144093243
60-80

You'll invade lots of noobs with no HP for easy kills.
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>>144092643
Because it completely lacks fast, reliable spells that make a core of caster tactics in DS3.
On top of that there's NO dedicated faith build weapons unlike witch locks, flame spear, crystal sage rapier or MLGS.
On top of that faith build gets the LOWEST damage output on its elemental infused weapons simply because it BOTH lacks dual scaling of chaos/dark weapons and crown of dusk boosting damage of crystal weapons.
While sunlight spear rapes people if it actually hits them during trades, no smart opponent will ever fall for this. Miracles are only godly because of their HP restoration abilities and you don't need to go full faith to use them, fai/luck anri's sword regenerator is much stronger.
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>>144092904
SL 60 for fucking around invading people actually trying to make it to Anor Londo

SL 80 for semi decent half baked builds endlessly fight clubbing in Pontiff courtyard.

SL 100 is people who actually finished the game but don't want to do NG+. Expect mass estus chugging because everyone has 15 fucking flasks and 27 vigor. People have started to even out in terms of build, generally 40/40 quality with a half baked spell school tacked on, but at least you see multiple weapons.

SL 120 HAVELSTOC HAVELSTOC HAVELSTOC Have you seen my Havel's greatshield and Estoc?! WE'RE HAVING FUN

THIS IS THE TRUE META YOU ARE ALL JUST BAD.

All build diversity is dead. Literally everyone is basically the same, anyone wanting to play something other than Havelstocs eventually just gives up and makes a new character, regretting those 20 wasted levels separating them from decent PVP.
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>>144093346
>Iudex :^)
>Vordt
>Sage
>Deacons
>Abyss Watchers
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>>144093401
They can hear your footsteps
That shit is actually really loud, and in most zones it's painfully obvious where the invader has to come from because the level design is oppressively linear.
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>>144093346
Worth then
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>>144093409
>The iframes weren't so great.

But it was fun!

https://youtu.be/qy7iDI8Q7yw?t=54
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>>144093401
Can you describe everything you're using? They can see spellcasting animations, arrows from bows/greatbows, and even your invading animation when you enter the world.
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>>144093401
its fucky. With the way things work they can see you and are closer to you but you havent seen the fact that they're closer to you on your screen yet.
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>>144093256
A STR/Pyromancer? Good luck. Hybrid classes sort of suck in this game.

Pyromancy is good, but only if you wear 4 specific rings and get 40/40 int/fai, which makes it pretty hard to also be str/dex/etc.

I tried a dex pyromancer but he only had 30/30 int/fai and 2 of the rings and it just wasn't useful.
>>
THERE IS NO

FC

THAT I SEE

THIS IS BAD

I AM NOT FILLED WITH GLEE

WHERE IS MY DEAR

FC

OH PLEASE /dsg/

RETURN TO ME

MY DARLING FC

WOULD A HOST APPEAR

THEIR KINDNESS WOULD BRING A TEAR

AND SOON I WILL BE NEAR
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>>144093346
>>144093497
Wait I'm fucking stupid you don't need to do Deacons before any of this
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>>144092643

Heals have far less value in a game where everyone has Estus and Lloyds may as well not exist. The DoT variants do barely anything either.

Buffs don't scale with Faith, are mostly useless in PvP, barely ever last long enough. Oath is good but Sunlight Straight Sword already has it as a WA. Vow of Silence barely lasts at all.

No tracking on the projectile miracles. Lifehunt Scythe does nothing either.

Damage on all offensive spells is less than a Sorceror can do, except Sorcerors retain damage at range whilst Lightning Spears tickle people at range for literally no reason at all. The best offensive miracles are close range but have pointless gigantic windups - Sorcerors can play around with their range but Faith builds need to invest in health because they are typically forced to tank hits to get something off. WoG was apparently designed for a completely different game which doesn't have Bloodborne combat in it, also Morne's does it better.

Weapon Buffs are somewhat passable, and Tears has its uses - except these are almost always part of hybrid builds and never part of an actual Faith Build. Faith builds can also use Spellswapping, but the fact that having two WoGs in a row is not considered either broken or meta, just speaks volumes about Faith as a whole.

Pyromancers have more immediate usefulness in terms of buffs and can match Sorcerors in terms of damage, whilst beating Clerics in terms of utility with AoE/Area Denial, etc.

Faith builds also have no good weapons. The Spears both have hefty stat requirements, Dragonslayer Axe is good but pretty much every build can use that just as well - including other magic users. Sorcerors get MLGS, Immolation Tinder and CSR, Pyromancers get Witch's Locks and Gargoyle Flame Spear.

Faith will never stop disappointing you because nothing unique it has actually makes sense in the context of the game it is placed in.
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>>144093082
You might be on to something
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>>144093302
150? Why the fuck would anyone push for 150? So you can softcap absolutely everything?
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>>144093497

I don't know what rings your pyro buld uses for pve, but mine are
>fire clutch
>witch's
>sage's
>the other pyro ring you get from the start

which you can get after Iudex, Vordt and the watchers.
>>
>hidden body
>spook
>Cathedral Giants still see me and pancake my glass ass

Fuck this
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So I just got The Dark Soul trophy, and yet when I check on the main home page it shows my trophy progress at 94%. Anyone else on PS4 having this issue? Does it just take a while to update?
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>>144093547

No more FCs at /dsg/. Everyone is playing Battleborn. Go buy it its a great game.
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>>144093450
So you've never played at 120?

I play 120, I've been playing at least 2-3 hours of PvP a day on my 120 char for the last two weeks, and in that ENTIRE time I have seen a grand total of 3 greatshield/estoc shitters.

They're less effective at higher levels because more vig
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>>144090284
>off topic shitpost and avatarfagging aka rule breaking is no fun allowed
>meme image
Thank you for proving how cancerous you are, please kill yourself. youre doing nothing with your life, your parents in the room next door are disappointed in their pathetic adult manchild with aspergers and no job
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>>144093716
>enemies with scripted aggro that ignores normal aggro mechanics
This is the worst shit. They overused the fuck out of it in DaS3 compared to previous games.
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>>144093450
The meta isn't for balancing the game. This shit came up in DaS2 when people wanted a low SL meta so people couldn't make hexers. If one build is better than the rest, then that's just how it's going to be.

As much as you might hate it, it's better to leave the balancing to Fromsoft. They'll get around to it eventually.
>>
Is Thief still the best starting class for a bleed build? Or am I totally offbase there?
>>
Yorshka is an ANGEL. She's so cute and adorable and beautiful.

Honestly she is the most marryable character in Soulsborne. I'm in love with her.
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>>144093696
Mine are Swamp Ring, Witch's Ring, Sage's and Leo Ring
Fire Clutch is dogshit
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>>144093629
>dragonslayer swordspear is not a pure faith weapon
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>>144093836
Darkmoons should auto-invade anyone who has her chime tbqh
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>>144082482
>SLAI
That PS2 sequel to Phantom Crash?
Good taste, but not your blog, faggot.
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>>144093871
why the fuck would it be? it's a SWORDSPEAR, not a cute lil' chime. It would be wasted on the worst school of magic in a game where all schools of magic are garbage
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>>144093871
It's actually extremely shit scaling faith weapon
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>>144093506

Nope, got slumbering dragoncrest ring on

>>144093532

Dickass thief build for invading Irithyll dungeon. Nothing special equipment-wise. A shortsword, a target shield and the starting thief armour. Hornet ring, Slumbering dragoncrest, ring of favor and obscuring. I use arrows sometimes but I'm aware people can see them, that's not when I'm seeing the problem, people just seem to be inexplicably aware of exactly where I am when I should be well out of range while tailing them

>>144093538

It's possible it's just because of latency yeah, hadn't considered that. Usually I stay way out of vision range but I dunno I guess it's hard to be sure if the host is moving a second or two before I see it
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>>144093547
You want a FC? Host one.
We lack hosts, but not fighters.
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>>144093836
There's a reason Gwyndolin tried to shelter and protect her, going as far as making her his sister.
She's like the only truly pure character in the game.
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>the Tsorig phantom can fight the real Tsorig
What is this shit ?
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>>144093726
UNNATURAL
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>>144093779
>walk past a corridor with Slumbering/Hidden Body
>some enemy leaps out and strikes at me
>they then just stand there gormlessly because they have now reverted to regular AI and cannot detect me

Scripted events? Fine, whatever, they're a device for making ambushes or traps work consistently.

But if I am neither visible or not audible, then they need to not fucking work. Fix your shit, From.
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>>144094041
trust nobody
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>>144094041
Convolution
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>>144093016

His way of playing Metal Gear, dumbass.
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>>144093882
>darkmoons invading darkmoons who then get help from Aldrich Faithful for killing Yorshka
That'd be fun.
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>>144093831
warrior i think is slightly better
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>>144094002
ALL I DO IS HOST

ALL THE TIME

I WANT TO KILL

HOSTING IS FOR BULLYING AND BEING BULLIED

I WANT MATCHES
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>>144093752
I got to SL 120 on my sorcerer character because that is what /dsg/ told me the expected level was and then ran into nothing but Havelstocs until I stopped playing that character in disgust. I saw two havelstocs for every other build and they were still mostly using estocs and dark swords. Who the fuck even uses a Dark Sword as SL 120?! Why?

That was about a week ago, maybe people at that level have started getting bored. Now I'm just working on getting a Solaire cosplay kitted out so I can invade people in Lothric castle all day.
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>invade a Dark Sword user
>feint with Profaned r2 from a distance
>time it just right to get off the parry when they try to punish
>welcome
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>>144093647
Because it gives you extra points to play around with. That means you start seeing builds actually invest into heavy armor, you see more sorceror or hybrids, or pyros. Still rarely see clerics though.

It's the most diverse level range simply because people have more points to play around with. I think the problem with 120 is that it was pretty much decided specifically with the soft caps for quality in mind. Because of that, all you really see is quality. It's literally the perfect level for quality. It get's all of its advantages, while putting certain other builds at a disadvantage.

At least, I'm guessing that's why. I'm just trying to justify my anecdotal evidence. I've clearly noticed heavier armor at 150, as well as an influx of various casters.
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>>144094091
There's one person you can always trust.
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>>144093990
You know that shit that happens where phantoms are extremely bright when they first appear? It could be that.
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>>144093167
Why do hosts do this? Summon a grape who's put down a co-op sign near the start of a level and then immediately try to attack them? If I put down my grape sign I'm there to help the host through the level and kill any invaders that arrive, and only if we're getting close to the boss room will I consider turning on them or their phantom(if they have one).
Summoning someone with a co-op sign and then immediately attacking them just seems like a massive waste of everyone's time.
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>>144094041

It's a cruel lesson, but one you must learn.

>>144093871

The scaling is garbage and even if it wasn't, you still need to dump more stats than is necessary into Str/Fat

Even the Immolation Tinder isn't as demanding because it at least gives you access to a Raw Dragonslayer Axe, meaning a Sorceror can now use every single damage type in the game effectively.
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Even if under the effect of hunter charm the oh no where's my drink animation is faster and less punishable than your standard drink was in DS1

Anything under 70% roll has as much invincibility and less recovery than fast roll did in Ds1

These two things are what makes ds2 and 3 shit. Nobody wants to play a game where the guy who is too afraid to attack and just plays keep away and heals 15 times can't be stopped from doing so. It is some 10/10 comedy to invade in DS1 now with all the new players trying it out and they all turtle behind a shield and backpedal nonstop looking for signs and try to heal in your face like they won't get backstabbed. A shitter who can't play gets bullied and killed in Ds1 and that's how it should've stayed
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>>144094205
>i want to wear heavy armour and cast CSS because im awful at dodging and timing

Fuck off
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>>144094159
I will host today, but not right now.

I also spent much more time hosting than fighting.
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>>144094041
Tsorig has hacked stats right, theres no way he has a real build.
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>>144094402
he's having fun while you are sperging out on anonymous image board
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>>144094301
Rolls in DS2 weren't that bad. I'd say they were more punishable than DS1 rolls if it wasn't for Gower's ring.
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>>144094161
Same, I went 120 quality though and thought it would be interesting because my Murakomo would be viable only to find that not only do the estoc and dark sword beat it out in speed they also beat it out in damage AND it's one thing if I lose maybe a few times but I lost 35 times in FC's against those two weapons alone, not to mention I couldn't invade anywhere and I'm on PC so I figured everone is following suit with the 120 meta but I guess it's just a meme. Deleted the character and went to 79 and I'm having a blast invading and using my murakomo to the fullest
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>>144094205
>That means you start seeing builds actually invest into heavy armor, you see more sorceror or hybrids

That sounds like just the sort of garbage I am happy to avoid.
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>>144094269
>Why do hosts do this?
Beats me. I just want to bully invaders but that host in particular wouldn't let me.
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>>144094265

No, it always happens after I've been there a little while. I'll be following the host and / or phantoms, pretty significantly outside of the ring's effect radius, and they'll turn around for one reason or another, usually while fighting some enemy or another, and very clearly see me, and either run straight for me or gesture.

Come to think about it this happens most often in a single area. The one in Irithyll dungeon where you go outside for the first time, the one that the jailbreakers key leads you to right before the room with a mimic that has an Estus shard. Almost every time I'm following someone there they'll turn around and see me, even if I'm almost ridiculously far away. Like double or more of the ring's radius. I wonder if there's something weird about that particular spot
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>>144094301
Did you even play 2?
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>>144094301
>make a host chug through all 15 of his estus
>with no heals left his actually starts trying to fight back
>his face when I drink my first estus and chug back to full while he's almost dead
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>playing through scholar of the first sin since i never have yet
>realizing just how massive the weapon hitboxes are in DaS3 compared to this

makes it so much more difficult having to actually have proper spacing for your hits rather than just running up and mashing and still connecting
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>>144094402
>guy gives reasons as to why he believes 150 is a level that people play at
>"fuck you, noob faggot, learn to spam roll and git gud."
Your arguments are truly compelling.
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>>144094446
JOIN THE CLUB

THE FIGHT CLUB THAT IS
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how is my build? https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/34455
head slot is dragon head
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>>144094492
I have fun with my level 98 pyro build, taking down bosses easily and fast rolling as a dragon.
Also have fun on my PvP BKG build thats 99
Now having fun on my new level 28 mage protecting the forrest from heathens.

Going 150 is just a crutch to do everything. Theres a fucking respec option for a reason
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Is blocking with medium shields even viable in PvP? As far as I can tell its Greatshield or get the fuck out. Either people have havels or some other shield on their back that they never use.
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to all the retards the whined about poise
i hit someone with a dagger online several times in a row and they didnt stagger
what now faggots?
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>>144094402
I don't play mage, I usually play paladin esque builds.

I've not seen a single mage in heavy armor, although if they choose to have less stamina/backup weapon requirement stats they certainly could have heavy armor.

It's not like heavy armor is particularly good in this game.
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>>144094558
>No, it always happens after I've been there a little while.

It only triggers when they first look at you. I have no clue if it would still happen with obscuring ring on though.
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>>144094205
This bait is of excellent quality!
Congrats anon you managed to piss one guy off
now whats the next step in your master plan?
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>>144094726
Black Knight Shield is really good for that purpose, probably my favorite shield actually as a result
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>>144094609
t. Shitter that cant time a roll properly

Spam roll in PvP and see how well you do m80 :^)
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>>144094041
Not only that, but I've had phantom Tsorig fight real Tsorig on three different characters now, and phantom Tsorig has won every time.
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>>144094301
You're talking about the game that had divine blessings and Elizabeth's mushrooms making people basically invincible.
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>>144094161

Seems you got memed.

It's been known for a while that Sorcery peaks in effectiveness at around SL50 and only gets weaker from then on. Even if you have to run around at 9 vit, your opponent is still unlikely to have more than 27 which means it's actually a pretty fair fight because your spells will hit them like freight trains.

Sure, you can go higher and get more Health/Stamina but at that point you're just morphing into a Hybrid build than an actual pure magic build, and those still don't stand up to Quality builds.
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>>144094564
See if that were actually possible it'd be great but with how straight up broken hit detection is online you're going to take phantom damage especially when 99 out of 100 invasions are into groups of people
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Is there still any players on DaS2 PC (without sotfs)? Already got sotfs on ps4 and I feel like playing the base game again.
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So does your ring level and or NG cycle actually affect match making or is it just weapon and level?
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>>144094683
yet you are sperging out instead of playing so it doesn't seem that you're having that much fun
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>>144094902
This. Leveling nothing but Int and stopping at 48 lead to a very rough playthrough but some very effective invasions and pvp.
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>>144094857
>implying rolling a mile away and poking people to death isn't good enough for 80% of PvP shitters
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>that ass puckering moment when you barely escape on a ladder
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>>144094896
Only cheaters had enough access to those to be a threat.
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>>144094518
You got memed pretty hard, only tryhard PC people obsessed with FC's and twitch faggots go 120 everyone who wants to be able to play the game and invade scrubbies going through archives or archdragon peak go 80-79
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Whats the best soulmass spell for PVP?
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>>144095000
No

>>144094992
Some, SOTFS has more though
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Oh.
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>>144095002
>calling someone shit is sperging out

Im playing right now and typing this on my phone :)
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>>144094992
it has the least amount of players across all souls games at the moment even if you count base game + scholar combined, base game is fucking dead
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>>144094896
Yeah and? Ds1 wasn't for shitters, if you had some 99 divine blessing or infinite health cocksucker in your world you had to figure it out. Force em off a ledge and send them some love mail about cheating and still blowing it

Mushrooms and divine blessings were extremely limited in the amount you could get per playthrough so anybody happily popping those is cheating and if they're popping them out of desperation well then my mission as invader is accomplished anyway
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Posting Champion Of Ash

>>144085136
>I don't do anything to incite negativity from people
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>>144095105
git gud
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>>144094546
I mean, if it's the whole "b-but grapes always attack me when I summon them" THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL SUMMONING THEM YOU PUSILLANIMOUS KNOBGOBBLER
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>>144093256
very
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>>144095082
>>144095126

Oh well, thanks for the answer, still gonna play through I think, even if I'm all alone, it will make the atmosphere better
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>>144095105
Outskilled, outplayed, outlived
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>>144095105
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>144093439

There are SOME faith build weapons, the Dragonslayer Spear/Swordspear for example, it's just yeah there's a lot more for magic and especially fire. At least there's something for Faith, unlike Dark which actually has no dedicated weapons.
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>>144095006

The playthrough itself doesn't matter too much since you can just respec at Rosaria.

Int builds in PvE still work out okay since you can just Dancer Glitch -> Kill AW -> Oceiros Glitch and you get a MLGS, which is the bees knees for PvE int playthroughs.
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>Some guy invaded
>Eventually forget it happened because nobody appeared
>Fight aldrich faithful
>Both at low health
>About to deal the killing blow
>Hear something behind me
>Guy I forgot about becomes visible 0,1 seconds before he attacks, I get cut by twinblade running attack, die
>NOTHIN PERSONNEL KID
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>>144095292
DSS really isn't a faith weapon.
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>>144094564
I did that to a chugging grape in an FC earlier today. Damn it felt good.
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>>144095389

The lightning bolt weapon art damage scales off Faith iirc, and that does insane damage at capped Faith.
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>>144095340
out fucking skilled
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climbing tech level : maximum
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>>144095292
Spear and swordspear are quality weapons with faith requirements. Witch's locks or patched MLGS are unusable on anything but pure caster builds.
Dark at least has a hilarious damage output on infused weapons, easily comparable to quality weapons in some cases, this is why 39/39 int/fai washing pole builds became pretty popular among tryhards.
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>>144095149
>Ds1 wasn't for shitters

huehuehue
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So how many hours have you guys wasted on DaS3 so far? I'm up to 183.
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>>144095496
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>>144095496
>playing dark souls 2
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>>144094269
Yeah I look at my mound making self and consider it my job to eliminate shitter phantoms. I wish the host would let me do my job without getting in the way and not try to team up on me when his gayboy phantom is up to the test. Like if your phantom can't even put up a fight against me without help do you really want him in your shit dying to a bosses first attack?
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>>144095548
Proving his point there, buddy.
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>>144095149
hosts in this game piss me off to an extend where I happily use a blessing just to kill them. never did that in other games.
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>>144095556
239
im a little burnt out but i still want to play
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>>144095556
Help me
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>>144095506
Neat pic
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>tfw still haven't started on my two gladiators
feels bad man
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>>144095105
>ThanksPETA.webm
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>>144095623
Being delusional there, buddy.
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>>144095606

>having pictures of worst girl in your HD
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>>144095556

For all its flaws and linearity i've put a fuckton of time into multiple characters and builds, squeezing whatever distinctive playstyles I can get out of them.

There's still fun to be had and I feel i've barely scratched PvP outside of aldrich faithful clusterfucks.

I'm not sure if I would have played for even half of that without the Dancer glitch, though.
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>>144095741
What?
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>>144095496
Jesus christ, those graphics are so fucking terrible.
>click every picture with a store front until there are none left
>always fails somehow
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>>144095683
Speaking of which, can I use my disgusting looking fat female level 30 character for that if I level her up or do I need to give her looks also an overhaul?
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>>144095753
whats the dancer glitch?
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>>144080052
Crystal chime flashsword/soul greatsword/dark edge
Ragged mask
I wanna say undead legion chest or xanthous chest
Firekeeper arms
Legs might be an issue, Havel >maybe< unless you can think of something better
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>tfw just 3 rings away from the achievement
give me the motivation to finally finish it, /dsg/
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>>144095895
You can make the npc summon invincible and let him solo the dancer.
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>>144095928
What're you using to keep track of it?
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>>144095895
>summon blade master for Vordt fight
>instead go up to Emma and kill her, starting the Dancer bossfight
>let Blade Master die
>quit out via menu
>resummon Blade Master
>he's now somehow unkillable
>kill Dancer at a ridiculously early level
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>>144095797
When?
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>>144096032
http://zkjellberg.github.io/dark-souls-3-cheat-sheet/#Master_of_Rings
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>>144095548
Honestly your just proving my point, either you learned to maneuver between the zweihander deathlock or you go cry about poise and how stupid afro is as you put the ds2 disc back in the tray
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>>144095643
rip
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>>144095895
>summon Sword Master for vordt
>kill Emma
>summon Dancer
>let her kill Sword Master
>quit to menu
>reload
>summon Sword Master again
>he now has no hitbox
>stay away from dancer while he bleeds her dead

Works with all phantoms, I think. I know it works for all 3 Sword Master summons, at least.
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>>144093336
>>144093545
>>144095210
Welp, flame arc, toxic mist and flame spray for pokes it is...
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>>144096132
I can confirm it works with all summons
did it with hawkwood to early kill ocerios after earlykilling dancer with sword master
in which i tested it with all other npc summons on that playthrough and they all worked
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>>144096132
I know you can summon him for the dancer and the champ. whats the 3rd?
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>>144096294
Vordt
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>>144095556
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>>144096208
Toxic mist buildup is a fucking joke it will never inflict toxic on a player unless they're afk
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>>144096352
well, that was dumb of my part
>>
darksouls 3 fixed when :^(
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>>144096501
they'll announce 1.08 tomorrow and it will fix literally everything
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What kind of build should I make? Any cool ideas?
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>>144096067
>B-but Dark Souls 2!

Is that just /dsg/'s response to criticism that you can't deal with?
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>>144095287
That gray phantom or whatever looked like your ghost coming from beyond to steal your place in the world, that's probably how you died.
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>>144095556
Send help
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>>144096587
Max strength Leo Pickaxe go!
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>>144096067
I want "Dark souls 2 is bad" meme to die
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>>144096612
Guess you never learned to not walk into the zweihander deathlock
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>>144096208
toxic mist sucks, you'll never toxic anyone, and even if you do it's less useful than normal poison was in DS1/DS2.

You want chaos/dark weapons, flame arc for all non-chaos/dark weapons. Astora Greatsword scales great when infused with chaos or dark if you want to go heavy weapons. If you want light weapons thrall axe and witch's locks are nice.

You'll want to gitgud at free-aiming chaos bed vestiges and great chaos fireballs. Flame Whip does a surprising amount of damage as well, you should try that out too.
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>>144096501
I doubt they'll ever fundamentally change healing, rolling or PvP in general because that'd be like admiting they were wrong in the first and japs can't have that.
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idk the anon who wanted the full picture of this but here ye go

https://67.media.tumblr.com/ec49230f5b157f806bd926d4a72ba5da/tumblr_o83pqfF9881sgzgnoo1_540.jpg

if u dont like bullied bird, dont open

also request time, lewd or cute stuff.
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>>144095556
You are all smalltime.
>>
These threads have really slowed down the last week; are people actually playing fucking overwatch? The only game less balanced than dark souls 3?
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>>144095548
>>144096067
>>144096612

you're both fucking retarded

giantdad was never good, not even for a single second. you have to be literally braindead to get caught by it and paralyzed to not be able to toggle out on the first hit

the build did not exist before afro made the video, it is a meme and nothing more
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>>144096993
Ah yes, you must be braindead to not use a glitch to escape.

Good argument, can't find any faults with it.
>>
>>144096929
Yorshka, Firekeeper, Irina, Karla and Sirris all chilling together.
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>>144096929
Heysel bullying kirk
>>
r1
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Any recommended weapons for a guy that mained MSGS in DaS1? I still haven't found that weapon that "fits like a glove" so to speak. Thanks.
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>>144097130
D E T A I L I N G
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>>144097130
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>144096993
I just know that you were a dmb falchion/ricards user, I can feel it
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>>144097130

pyromancy
>>
GUESS THE WHAT

I FOUND A TROVE OF IMAGES

BACK WHEN /vg/ STARTED

AND /dsg/ STARTED DARK SOULS FIGHT CLUBS

HOW NOSTALGIC

SHOULD I UPLOAD THEM TO AN ALBUM

FOR ALL TO REMINISCE?
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>>144097171
P Y R O M A N C Y
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>>144096980
Notice how frogposting is less rampant than when DaS3 was released.
FotM redditors are the bane of the earth.
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>>144097217
What you should do is stop posting this EPIC ALL CAPS

POINTLESS LINE BREAKS

AM I COOL YET bullshit.
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>>144097073
What does toggling being a glitch have to do with anything?
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>>144097217
I SHOULD NOTE

THESE ARE FROM WHEN I WAS HOSTING

ENTIRELY

THERE ARE SOME NEAT SHOTS

I SHOULD SAY
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>>144096980
I keep playing ds3 but im hoping and waiting for from to make magic good
>tfw it never happens

Man if i was miyazaki id be patching the hell out of this game to try to balance everything. Does he not care anymore? I havrnt played des or das but he doesnt seem like some genius or savoiur like some people call him, seems like a lazy unpassionate dev
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>>144097073
everyone uses the glitch, it's a tool available to you.

yes, you have to be braindead not to use it, since not using it basically puts a giant sign on your forehead saying "i want to be infinite stunlocked to death"
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>>144097312
Wow, what a small, arbitrary thing to get mad at. How embarrassing.
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>>144097312
I AM COOL

THAT'S HOW MUCH SELF ESTEEM I HAVE

CAN YOU SAY THE SAME?
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>>144097342
From are busy working on the DLC so it can release early
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>>144097217
Autistic or underage? Either way stop with the caps.
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>>144097479
Release early in 3 months? Also isnt the dlc usually cut content anyway, meaning its done?
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>>144097087
>>144096929
Add Heysel and make this a pyjama party/sleepover
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>>144097552
KEYBOARD IS BROKEN

I VALUE IT

SO IT WILL NOT BE REMOVED

I WISH I WAS UNDERAGE

SO I COULD TASTE YOUTH AGAIN

HOW I MISS IT
>>
newfag, why do covenants matter?
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>>144097556
The only DLC that felt like blatantly cut content was Shulva/Sunken King, and even that I'm sure had some extra polish put into it.
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>>144097336
>>144097389

I guess tumblebuff stone greatswords were also okay.

You can't use glitches as a way to justify faulty PvP.
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>>144095340

>Never, NEVER get hatemail
>Take a small break to shitpost on dsg
>See someone mad about the exact thing I just did
I'm not sure but it would be one hell of a coincidence
>>
>>144097665

What game?
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>>144097556
devs start working on the DLC during the entire licensing & publishing thing, which can take several months

seeing as they've brought out a lot of games, most likely that period was shorter
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>>144097649
Keep on trucking anon, you bring joy and cheer to an otherwise dismal and degenerate general.
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>>144097187
40/40 claymore/halberd for 900 hours

if you were at the old FC's you probably know me
>>
>pick up dragonslayer axe
>give it raw infusion
>better than the vast majority of my weapons

Wow, why did I even bother getting any strength or dex? I could just respec, get the base I need to use this thing, and dump everything into vig and end.

That'd be kinda boring though.
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Guys, in dark souls 2, i can't seem to get past these 3 giant dicks boss fight in lost bastille could i have some advice? At the moment i'm using a 5+ falchion, i tried two handing it, it worked a bit better.

Any kind of advice is helpful advice at this point.
Pic related, how i feel about this game.
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>>144097649
I feel the same, loud anon.
Being old is shit.
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>>144097665
They don't, this time around. They used to be good but from removed the actual best one and then just didn't really care ever since.
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>>144097714
again, never good outside of ganks

and even in ganks you can just parry or run away half the time because they are too retarded to cast it on the spawn
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>>144097389
Nobody even knew about that shit and you wouldn't know about it had you not gone online to look for any little edge you could possibly find to fraud people with

I did hundreds of hours of invasions at every level range, from initial launch through and into dlc and in every area except faggot burg, which is where I imagine all the people who looked up shit would pvp at, and not once did I ever come across a person who toggled out of a stunlock

So reply about how I'm a shitter and never fought good people and how you use everything at your disposal no matter how shameless yadda yadda yadda the usual shit. But that glitch was extremely fringe whether you want to acknowledge it or not
>>
NEW BREAD WHEN REEEEEE
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>>144080645
>>Hollowslayer
>That's a thrusting sword Anon.

>he doesn't know about the 2hr1 third swing to catch rolls that combos into the fourth
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>>144097767
DS3. They all seem the same to me.

>>144097853
What did they do before?
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>>144097994
Bullshit, toggle escape was around since Demon's Souls. Everyone who cared about pvp used it.

Maybe pcucks didn't know about it.
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>>144097792
I don't do FCs but I'll give props just for claymore and halberd usage, loved my elite knight paladin build with divine halberd and occult claymore
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>>144096798
Guess you're incapable of grasping the fact that certain builds, weapons, etc. became famous for reasons. Even if I was incapable of dealing with BS, I wouldn't be the only one. Even if I was the worst player on Earth I couldn't create trends with my personal badness.

It kind of seems like you took my insinuation that DS1 isn't perfect as a personal insult and now you can't wrap your mind around anything other than this condescending git gud nonsense.

>>144096993
I posted it because it's a widely known cheese build, you're bitching at me for no reason right now.
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>>144097789
I DO NOT OWN A TRUCK

I'M SORRY

>>144097851
MY BACK HURTS
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How's my fashion souls?
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>>144098192
Show us the images already please
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>>144097837
If you're talking about the ruin sentinels then try to fight them one at a time.
You can kill the first one on the small platform where you are at the start and damage the second one when it comes.
They always do a 180° swipe when jumping on the platform.
Jump down when the third is jumping up to gain an extra bit of time.
After all that you'll most likey be fighting two of them at the same time but the room is big enough.
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>>144098262
THERE ARE OVER 500 IMAGES

PLEASE BE PATIENT
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>>144098249
Pretty bad
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>>144098192
i need you in my life
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>>144098192
I <3 you loudanon
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>>144097902
>Bino boosting
>Parry walking in PvP, making your opponent just sit there or ALT F4
>Sacred Flame glitch
>Bow backstabs
>Spellswaps

But hey, these were all features.
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>>144098113
I wouldn't know I didn't play on pc

But what I do know is that in the X thousand invasions I did nobody did it so that's a rate of 0% usage in my personal experience. So you can either dismiss thousands of invasions as anecdotal or realize that most players don't tryhard and look for every little technique online
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>>144098403
>>144098342

PLEASE GET A GLASS OF WATER

BEING THIRSTY CAN LEAD TO DEHYDRATION
>>
Why is resummoning phantoms allowed
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>>144098321
I'm just trying to make black knight armor look good. :(
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>>144097837
powerstance maces.

just the normal maces you can buy from the blacksmith.

Trust me. You'll stunlock them so bad that they won't even be able to attack.
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HOSTING AN FC

HIGH WALL

PUT YOUR SIGNS ON THE RAFTER THINGY

I ONLY GOT 30 MINUTES
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>>144098161
>Guess you're incapable of grasping the fact that certain builds, weapons, etc...

What the fuck are you even talking about, at no point was anybody talking about how builds became popular. And why would I be personally insulted by you being shit at Ds1, I don't care

You are pulling some serious mental gymanstics right now buttfucker
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>>144098634
Sorry, not possible.
>>
What is/are the best straight swords in DS3? Just been using the broadsword and nothing seems as good
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>>144098651
PASSWORD IS dsg AS USUAL
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>>144098749
dark sword
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>>144098161
To give you an idea of just how much of a meme giantdad was, it wasn't even using the right mask. You could lower your vitality and add enough endurance to use the mother's mask to end up with more health.
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>>144098749
Broadsword is good.

Dark Sword is a bit better.

Anri's Straight Sword is the best with a luck build, I believe.
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>>144098749
>early game
raw astora

>late game
Anri's
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>>144098723
I disagree. Chest piece is beautiful, but the legs are too thin and there's not a single damn headpiece that matches it.
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>>144098651
I WILL ARRIVE

YOU WILL NOT BE ALONE
>>
New update WHEN?

Also I made a hot female character and i dunno what to do with her build wise. Everythings boring
>>
Anyone up for helping me transfer some stuff from one character to another? I fucked up my bleed build and would like to start over. I can drop stuff for you too if you need any items, but if you'd like, you could just back up your save after I give you the stuff (before you trade it back to me), and you'll get to hang on to a +2 ROF and a +2 Cloranthy Ring. Pass is EDGE, and my purple sign is down at undead settlement. Thanks!
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>>144098913
>1 guy comes in
>he doesn't want to wait for other people
>he bcs
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>>144098749
Raw Astora
Heavy/Refined Dark Sword
Anri's with a Luck build
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>>144099004
Yeah lemme just boot up my Sega Master System real quick
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>>144099004
You'll need a friend who won't steal all your shit.
>>
>>144098931
Wait til next patch to do a new build, hopefully most weapons will be viable
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>>144099031
MY GAME IS STILL LOADING

MY ANUS IS STILL CLENCHED
>>
so i've finaly played the ds2 dlc, why the fuck isnt the rest of the game this good?
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>>144099031
Sorry, I had to leave for IRL reasons
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>>144099004
>>144099047
Oh jeez, sorry, I should add I'm on PS4

>>144099061
Why? I backed up my save, if people steal my stuff I'd just reload it. I trust you guys anyways.
>>
So for the gladiator event; are we being autistic about character names? For example can a character be named "Muffin Fart" or does it have to be something like "Topus Kekus"?
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>>144098405
useless outside of speedrunning
useless unless you like wasting your own time
don't know it
useless
useless
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>>144099179
miyazaki worked on the dlc
>>
My problem with this game is the same problem I have in every other Souls game.

Using any weapon that isn't at least twice as big as me and can kill enemies in two hits feels like ass garbage.

First playthrough was a strength build with greataxe.

Second playthrough was a dex build. Got bored, respeced, picked up a UGS, and never looked back.

I know people say straight swords are op, but they honestly feel like shit to me.
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>>144097161

Anyone? I'm so tired of using my starter battle axe but nothing yet feels quite as satisfying as the MSGS.
>>
>>144098790
>>144098848
What makes Dark Sword better? Just looking at the stats and damage is slightly worse and they both have the same scaling.

>>144098854
>>144099041
Yeah, looking at the stats now Astora is slightly better and I know it has better range, I regret upgrading the broadsword now.

Are any other swords good? Greatswords seem too slow
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>>144099276
You're not going to be booted for having a shit name but it would be better if you didn't.
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>>144099281
>useless outside of speedrunning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9IMaJY0GOI
mhm
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>>144099139
Im gunna end up gettingused to not playing and not even come back when there is a new update. Im hsed to shooters which are updated every 1-2 weeks, whether it be fixes or new content
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Boss weapons fucking suck, why did they make it so you can't infuse them to at least make them comparable to the better normal weapons?
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>>144099461
You know it got patched out immediately, right
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>>144099558
>defending it still
mhm
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>>144099398
Dark Sword hits a bit harder at +10, and has longer reach.
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>>144099534
What a loss that will be
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>>144099461
This is the game that gives you three ways to turn off backstabs. Useless.
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>been really enjoying DS1 after playing properly for the first time
>start to learn the mechanics, take my time, enjoying it a lot more than my first playthrough when I didn't even get past the gargoyles
>doing well on the bosses, probably overlevelled but I don't care
>get to bed of chaos
>fucking rock monster t-rexs and lava everywhere
>fucking accidentally kill Siegmeyer ruining his quest
>fucking titanite demon I can't kill despite being SL 82 or something
>bed of chaos fucking launches me into holes losing all my souls and humanity

I've finally killed the bed of chaos but not the prowling/titanite demon and I have no intention of going back there

at my wits end lads
at least I've only got Nito left to kill
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>>144099461
patched, and was in a game that had already irrevocably garbage everything, especially pvp
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>>144086350
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>>144099554
Profaned GS and Dragonslayer Greataxe are the best weapons in their class.
>>
Starting a new pyro run. Good names for a thicc edgy female that is going to wear black leggins?
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>>144099601
I'm specifically looking at the stats for +10, I mean they be wrong since it's fextra but idk. Longer reach is definitely something I want though, Broadsword is so fucking short
>>
>>144099623
Izalith is pretty universally accepted to be the worst areas in DS1, don't let it sour you too much.
>>
>Only one person

PUT YOUR SIGNS DOWN IN HIGH WALL

THERE'S AN FC BUT ONLY FOR ANOTHER 10 ODD MINUTES
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>>144098678
>at no point was anybody talking about how builds became popular

You said DS1 wasn't a game for shitters, I posted a popular cheese build made for shitters by a shitter.

>B-but you're just bad at the game!

Again, even if I was that wouldn't magically undo all the shittery that went on in DS1.
>>
>>144099623
You did the worst part of the game, your suffering is now over.
>>
>>144099813
Dark Sword has better scaling though, which gives you more bonus AR.
>>
>>144099724
That's only 2 weapons out of the 20+ boss weapons
>>
>>144099854
This. Even Miyazaki himself apologized for it being unfinished.
>>
Theres gunna be an update on friday my birthday so that should be interesting
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>>144099879
ON THE WAY LAD
>>
>>144099983
Yeah, I know
>>
>>144099346
Miyazaki supervised the entire game, Bamco just didn't rush the DLC.
>>
>>144099879
I TOLD YOU

YOU WOULD NOT BE ALONE
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>>144099724
DSGA could be contested by BKGA.
>>
>>144099930
It was just a joke build that people goofed around with. How was it cheesy?
>>
>>144099960
I'm probably incredibly retarded because i'm new but They both have the same letter scaling at +10. Is there something i'm missing here?
>>
>>144099724
>Dragonslayer Greataxe
>best in it's class
Sad how all big axes are shit.
>>
>>144100192
Letters do not equal letters, they are a range.
>>
>>144100216
>DS greataxe
>being shit
what is this spicy new meme
>>
>>144100192
Even if it's the same letter, weapons can have better or worst scaling than other weapons.

It's kinda silly, but that's just how it is.
>>
>>144100250
>>144100315
How do I know if it has better scaling or not then?
>>
>>144100302
Have fun trying to hit anyone with half a brain
>>
FUCK I FORGOT TO TAKE OFF MY HORNET RING
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
>>
>>144100414
Just look at your AR in the stats screen.
>>
>>144086729
>another fucking ice world

No.
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>>144100095
THANK YOU ANON

I LEAVE IN 4 MINUTES
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>>144100414
Blue is good, red is not. On a wiki, you don't.
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well fuck you too
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>>144100563
you did it!
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>>144100158
Because one hit locks you into a combo that lasts for the rest of the attacker's stamina unless you toggle out.
>>
>>144100432
>what is hyper armor
>what is being able to not only 1-shot critical(not that big most of the time), but be able to dole out 7-800 damage after getting hit for 2-400
>what is a weapon art that has a huge AoE,high hyper-armor and lingering damage frames(not terribly useful against non-random invasions
someone doesn't know how to greataxe
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What weapon is the fastest to clear the game with?

Is Raw ASS still the king? Is there anything better later in the game?
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>>144100563
you're welcome
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>>144100697
Raw ASS was never the king of anything other than earlygame. Anri's SS is the speed strat because bleed lmao.
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>>144100697
speedunners use rapier->raw astora->raw anris
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>>144100798
*estoc
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>>144100798
You literally cannot even infuse Anri's, do you have a brain issue
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GOOD FIGHTS BOYS

FCs CLOSED
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>>144100786
>>144100798
Thanks guys.
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>>144096993
>pcuck thinks they know everything about dark souls 1 meta from their shit port
giant and havel families were a thing kid, used by the most cancerous of esports tryhard wannbe shitters, afro stole the idea on pc launch when someone made a mock image
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>>144100840
whoops, sorry, meant that. my bad.
>>144100908
thought that you could infuse anris, again, my bad. Haven't watched a speedrun in forever, or even used that weapon.
>>
>>144100663
I don't use the greataxe, I shit on everyone who uses it. It's WA is literally designed to bully kids who started playing the game 10 hours ago or something.
>>
>>144100697
Full clear? Anri's because of how much faster you can +5 it.

Otherwise? Barbed Straightsword.
>>
WHERES THE NEW THREAD
>>
>>144101063
Anri's is used for Any% too now, BSS was a meme.
>>
Test
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>>144101112

In the DLC. Cya next year /dsg/
>>
>>144101153
Oh, did they find a good twinkling route?

That was the biggest problem with anri's in any%. Without archdragon peak twinklings were a problem.
>>
I HAVE PICTURES TO SHARE

I CAN NOT DO SO WITHOUT A NEW THREAD

AAAH
>>
>>144100960
and none of those builds used zweihander, 90% of them didn't use mask of the father either, especially after the DWGR nerf

apparently you don't know your own meta history, consolefriend
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>>144101264
If we hit over 900 posts without a new thread i'm going to kill myself
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>>144101427
Alright, time to die.
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>>144101427
We're at 902
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>>144101264
You just only +3 it
>>
>>144101427
Congratulations retard, now kill yourself
>>
>>144101427
You are the 901st post, see you on the other side.
>>
>>144101427
RIP
Stream where ?
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>>144101345
>especially after the dwgr nerf
many switched to father mask to fast roll and zewi was always a popular pvp weapon
you really should stop pretending to act like you know things when you dont kid, stay with your dead online only populated by cheaters pcuck
>>
>>144101046
it's WA isn't meant to be used willy-knilly. someone running towards you? no WA. got someone trapped in a corner? use it. in a 2v1? just wait for the right time. It's shit in almost all duels, but in random invasions it's a gold mine used properly. I presume you do duels predominantly, soo...
Also, I'm pretty sure It is the highest damaging GX coming in at ~731 if you go 40STR/40 faith for some stupid reason, able to reliably 3-4 shot most people, or 2 combos. It's a great weapon, used properly. But most people just see "LOL insane damage" and use it without knowing the finesse that GXes require in dues against skilled players
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>>144101427
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>Inb4 we end up with a shitload of new threads
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Anyone have a spare Carthus Curved Sword on PC? I'm tired of farming for one.
>>
CAN WE MAKE IT TO 1000?!
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>>144101513
>>144101513
>>144101513
>>144101513
>>144101513
>>144101513
Time to get moving
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New thread:

>>144101703
>>144101703
>>144101703
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>>144101657
Or it could drop on my next fucking run of the skeletons.
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>>144097792
>redditdog
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>>144101639
>>144101697
>>144101743
Called it.
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>>144083270
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>>144101570
only shitters used zwei
there's a reason it is FUCKING garbage and never used by anyone good
>>
>>144089037
Honestly I worry more about other great weapon users. Leo ring, shield ring, and Astora GS guarantees me immediate advantage over most non great weapon users because my character is built to win trades on counter hits in pvp so I just keep the pressure on and bait attacks to counter hit on.

If I see someone bringing in a great weapon that outranges or out damages me that's when I have to actually play a little more reserved
>>
>>144081641

Fuck Tower of Latria.
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