/simg/ - Simulation Games General

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>this triggers the 16boo

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>>144026451

>>144026451
>F16 systems.

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>>144026690

>>144026690
Can someone explain this to me? What is incorrectly modeled and for which planes?

>>144026891
Every plane, everything is incorrect, that isn't an F-16

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please just let me have my gunships

>>144026891
Everything for anything that is not an F-16. If it's not an F-16, it's just a guesswork model with F-16 systems crowbarred into it.

>>144026891
Falcon 4.0 seems to be more or less hard coded to use F-16 avionics, which means any aircraft that isn't an F-16 must use the avionics of the Viper. This is kinda offset with planes like the M-2000 which has that seperate MFD which is really just some code trickery.

DCS is pretty cool.

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post pvp ideas

>>144028676

>tfw at least one person is interested

Are you good at making missions and scripting? Cuz I'm shit.

>>144028676
MiG-21 battle

Finland vs USSR

Ussr needs to blow up some tonks around a town and Finland needs to perkele the fuck out of the rooskies

>>144029142
i can make missions, i can't be bothered with scripting right now, because i don't have the time to learn lua, and DCS jesus christ what's going on lua methods, and i hate lua.

>>144029609
Scripting in missions is literally just using triggers. If you need help lemme know and I'll hop in the TS somtime.

>>144032015
That's not scripting, that's putting in triggers.
Scripting is using lua to make a script.

> P A G E 1 0

>>144029582
This is a pretty good idea.

Or Iran Iraq war, 1980's

Mirages vs MiG-21s

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WAKE ME UP

>Watch Art of the kill
>Seduced by Bonanni's moustache
>Find out he shaved it
My heart cannot contain these feels.

>>144037461
art of the kill is breddy good

>>144032253
Unless you're trying to do something really custom you don't need custom luas. And if you do there are a variety of scripts available online that probably already do what you need.

The scripting system is powerful for how old it is and could use some updates from ED though. It still doesn't even have a 3D editor unless you count the modded one.

>>144037837
I heard there's a book as well, I might pick it up.

>>144038678
You need luas if you want to do many things actually, but for simple stuff it's not needed.

but to me lua is just disgusting, if only there was a way to plug in java or javascript or even c++ through lua.

>>144039106
You can get a copy of the book from GOG as an extra with Falcon 4

>>144040995
Yeah I hate lua as well and the lua code in DCS is horrid. Just take a look at some of the code ED wrote in the Scripts folder for example.

And honestly 99.99% of missions won't need a script that you have to write yourself, things like CTLD, MIST, etc all give you what you need. The most complicated my missions have gotten was a short custom lua script in a trigger event.

>>144028676
Blue team has to defend a chopper escaping with both many proofs and comrade Putin's dildo. Red team has to shoot the chopper down before it makes it to HATO's base where they will feed it all to hohols and kebabs

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Comfy in Atlanta

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Farming Simulator 2017 soon. I feel I am the only autist on 4chan who actually plays these games.

>>144043541
Do those games actually simulate farming well?

Kinda grouped it in my mind with the simulators that are broken piles of shit

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>>144043961
Yes and no. They're not buggy and are reasonably well made. But they are more of a tycoon type of game like Euro Truck than an actual simulator, the focus is on buying vehicles and land and then having AI work them, in order to buy better vehicles and more land. You can do all the work manually but it's boring unless you are really into that. There's no crop rotation or soil PH or anything that would make it a realistic simulator.

They added forestry in FS 2015 and I played the shit out of that. It's just cool to play with the huge vehicles.

>>144043961
also would like to know

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Should the Mirage 2000 feel like a Bugatti MiG-21 aka a very expensive MiG-21? I feel like when I'm flying this thing in a A2A engagement I'm about to be raped by anything that holds R-27's. The only way I'm able to get a kill on something is by ambushing them in mountain areas.

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http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2796627&postcount=214

Looks like the leddit guys are actually going to deliver. Sure it'll have an SFM, but working gauges, clickable pit, good looking external model.

Scooter is looking pretty damned good at this point.

DCS PvP OS WHEN????

>>144045247
Well, in short, yeah.

They're similar designs for similar roles, both are intended as "interceptors," not air superiority fighters.

Technically, while they can engage fighters, it's really not their primary function at all, as evidenced by the Super 530D's inability to hit the broad side of a barn.

>new to Aces High
>last week, in the main arena
>guy calls for help, I roll in and get on the plane that's chasing him
>pull up to roughly my convergence, get a sight picture and press the trigger
>miss
>enemy breaks hard left
>miss the deflection shot
>by this time he's back on the friendly
>friendly bursts into flame, enemy is faster than me so he just dives away
>my teammate just died because I'm a huge shitter
>feel like a burden to the team because most of the guys in there have been playing for so long

I've never felt this way in DCS, or any other game for that matter, but fucking up and letting a teammate down in AH intimidates the fuck out of me for some reason.

>>144045701
XvT PvP WHEN????????

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gods plane 2bh

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>>144049195
I used to think that HUD repeater in the -29 was the dumbest fucking thing I'd ever seen.

Until the real HUD got knocked out and I was still able to do shit. Now I'm in love.

F/A-18C progress update NEVER

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THE
STACK
IS
BACK
BAY
BEE

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>>144045247
No not really.

>balance script not currently running, Blue can still cap shit although they have a massive advantage

F A I R A N D B A L A N C E D F L A G

>>144056367
If only da boiz where there to save red

>>144056861
it's not too late

How do you people control the camera in flight sims? I find it really hard to follow targets, look around while maintaining formation and stuff.

>>144057547
Track IR

>>144057547
Headtracking is a must, especially in DCS where the target's going to be the size of a pixel any time he's not within 100m of your aircraft.

even when that kind of thing you're still going to be fucking struggling, but it's much better than doing without.

>>144057658
>>144057884
Is Track IR the best option? Which one is considered the high end?

>>144058173
diy is cheap and works pretty good

>>144058173
the only real advantage to TrackIR is offloading the CPU processor to a chip in the camera

>>144058202
Anon, he didn't even know this shit existed 10 minutes ago. Don't jump the shark.

TrackIR is okay, but overpriced. Cheaper options exist, like delanclip and shit.

DIY is still cheaper and basically just as functional as everything else on the market though.

>>144057547
>Being this new

Wow.

I sometimes forget that I didn't know about stuff like trackIR, prop-pitch, the importance of trim etcetcetc. Welcome to /simg/ pal,

> Get Mirage 2000
> Game crashes when accepting control bindings
> "Just bind controls from the in-game menu"
Great first impression so far

>>144059043

Is it still 60 god damn dollars

I sorta want it.

>>144059198
to be honest it's the only module I paid full-price for (sort of; $48 on pre-order) and I don't feel like I got jewed as hard as I did on the MiG-21, whose developers don't even seem to give a shit anymore.

Flying the SU25T on dcs, everytime i go and try to do a tight turn my nose always drops and i lose control, how do i fix this?

>>144059764
don't exceed the max AOA dummy

>>144059764
stop over-stressing the airframe and trying to fly it like a fighter

>>144059809
Got any place that explains AOA?
>>144059841
Is it really that heavy? i didn't expect it to turn like a elephant at 650+ speed

>>144060116
Yes, it's really that fucking heavy.

It's like an A-10 that hates to fly.

>>144059198
Yeah it is (got a friend to buy it for me though)

>>144060308
Christ, i got the free game and i've had a bit of training on war thunder sim, but flying the SU25 is a bit of the pain and all the other planes are expensive as fuck, 50 dollars or more

>>144060647
use a key site senpai

>>144060710
they got keys for that? got a link for the mig?

>>144060782
http://www.kinguin.net/category/22283/dcs-mig-21bis-digital-download-cd-key/

>>144060869
Cheers mate, will try and learn the mig and see if i can play online, is it much easier than the SU25T?

>>144061145
no, not at all.

It's the most difficult fighter in the sim to fly, and it's got a lot to memorize compared to the Su-25 if you want to be able to shoot shit.

If you can't handle the Su-25, the fishbed will give you two extra buttholes.

>>144061345
What's so hard about it? do i have to press like a thousand buttons to turn? or is it just getting used to the plane?

>>144061463
It's got no fly-by-wire, and has a weird flight profile, it's really easy to pull too much AoA in a turn and get it to begin to stall even though it's a small, light, airframe.

You can't yank and bank in it, it has to be gently coaxed into turning. It'll make the turn, but only under its own volition.

>>144061661
Fly-by-wire? and that's a shame, i just finished watching top gun and it seemed like it could do some pretty neat stuff

>>144061997
That was an F-5, you fucking idiot.

Please just get out of here before the rest of the autists in this thread wake up and start making fun of you.

>>144061997
bruh...

>>144061997

The "mig" in top gun is an F-5.

Fly by wire is a generic term for computerized flight control- basically, in a FBW aircraft, you don't directly control the aircraft but instead a computer does, interpreting your control inputs and deciding how best to manipulate the control surfaces to achieve what you want it to do without departing the aircraft.

The MiG is just overall a difficult aircraft to fly. It has teeny tiny wings so you have to keep it fast- landing run ins are kind of terrifying the first few times you do them. Also, at high AoA, it's actually better to use the rudder to roll the aircraft- you can squeeze some surprising maneuverability out of the tiny little fuck if you know how to work the rudder well.

>>144062119
>>144062154
I can't stop laughing at myself, i knew it looked weird as a mig
>>144062173
I got some time to learn so it won't be that hard, maybe i should get a better joystick, i got the plain thrustmaster at the moment

>>144062173
>It has teeny tiny wings so you have to keep it fast- landing run ins are kind of terrifying the first few times you do them

You land at 350 km/h or so, every time.

Don't flare much, don't come in with much negative vertical speed, just like, fly onto the runway and drop your chute.

The MiG-21 drops like a goddamn rock below that speed. Don't go slow.

>>144062908
Another important thing is to keep the throttle at or above 70% (I think) or so when landing - lower than that and you lose airflow to the blown flaps.

>>144063030
I usually keep it at 75-80%, which always feels like much, but it bleeds speed off like a motherfucker with gears and landing flaps down.

Use airbrake at your discretion to get to the right speed for approach (400km/h a mile out from the runway) but it shouldn't be necessary.

DO NOT touch the airbrake to slow you down just over the runway.

>>144062745

That'll be fine- there isn't much on the IRL stick and throttle of the MiG (Throttle has a twist grip for radar slew (it only slews in range, side to side is achieved by changing the position of the nose) and a push button for comms, the stick has a paddle for brakes, SAU recovery mode (oh shit I spun the plane let me hope this shitty soviet autopilot can unfuck it for me), SAU cancel current mode, weapon release, gun fire, and a button to lock targets on the radar)- the Fishbed is a very heads down plane, lots of switches and shit in the cockpit.

It also has the single most interesting radar in DCS right now, because it actually simulates reflections from the ground and clouds and shit.

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>>144019818
>60s jets
Noice but it's going to be forever until it gets anything to fight.

Evn if we get an E model, MiG-21, F-5E & Mirage F1 will probably all eat its face off. Though I guess it'll have the S.530.

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gunships when

>>144061463
It doesn't exactly have 'carefree' handling. It can turn quite tightly under the right conditions but you need to know what you're doing to get the most out of it. It's a challenge and that's why it's popular.

It's fun to fly and even though it's not perfect it's definitely a /simg/ approved module.
Just don't expect to be able to rumble with F-15s & MiG-29s on even terms. Luckily there's a bunch of 3rd gen fighters coming out that will be perfect to fight the MiG so you'll have adversaries soon enough.

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>>144063352
I'm just stuck at start up at the moment, going from a cold start is torture, but reading through the manual, for some odd reason the engine won't start

>>144064317
Unlock the throttle?

>>144064357
How do i do that? i think that's what im missing

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>>144064463

>>144064317

Battery power on. Inverters and battery heat (three switches near your right elbow) on. top switches on the switch panel to your right (the ones that are horizontal rather than vertical) on. Switch on all three pumps. Engine APU on, fire extinguisher on and have the discharge button un-capped if you want to follow procedure but I don't think it's possible for the engine to hot start in DCS. Uncage the throttle by clicking the little metal lever under it, ensure it moves freely then pull it all the way back. Press the engine start button and hold it until you hear the engine beginning to start.

Once the engine starts, engage the DC generator, wait for RPMs to stabilize, turn on AC power and all the gyros, press the EOS localize button on the front dash until the magnetic compass dealio stops wiggling, kill the engine APU, turn on all the switches on the right side panel (aside from the armament stuff and the gunsight). If you're going up to kill something, click the radar switch once to put the radar into standby/warmup mode and turn on your RWR.

Bam, your MiG is now ready to go.

>>144063352

SAU autorecovery doubles as a comfy heading/alt hold if you're lazy and don't feel like manhandling the plane while transiting.

>>144064463
>>144064552
Remember to turn on the aileron booster too, you can see it on that image just above the red countermeasures safety cap.

>>144064647
Aileron booster should be on by default in current version of DCS.

>>144064798
Did they change it back again?

>>144064647
>>144064591
>>144064552
Engine started, everything fine, taxiing is a whore, this plane turns like a tank and i can't give it enough power or else it will shoot off flying

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I've REALLY got to stop looking up pictures of the sighting systems and instruments on old gunships, it's depressing the fuck out of me.

But yeah, this is the sight for the AH-1G's chin turret. Literally just a collimator sight that you point through the cockpit glass at whatever you want to kill.

Pretty early on they replaced it with a telescopic unit, IIRC- around the time they started putting TOWs on them.

>>144064908
Apply the brakes along with hard left or right rudder to turn, it doesn't have nosewheel steering so it used differential brakes.

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>>144064990
Uh... wheres the brakes? and im stuck in the grass now

>>144065072
You should probably do the tutorials, there are no toe brakes. The wheel brakes are a lever that sticks up behind the stick.

>>144065072

for the love of christ turn off that depth of field shit it eats up frames and it's ugly as sin anyway

>>144065257
cheers, didn't know it did that
>>144065156
I got it started and everything and now will try to taxi slowly again

>>144065341

most russian planes use differential braking to turn.

When you line up on the runway to take off, taxi straight forward for a few feet, then turn the lever just beside the sightblock to lock the nosewheel. If you don't, you'll wobble everywhere and probably collapse your nosewheel or some shit.

>>144064930
Are there any games that do helo gunships nowadays even

other than bullshit like arma

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>>144065453
It's time

>>144056367
There's a balance script?

>>144065523
hold 10 degrees pitch angle to prevent a tailstrike, and make sure to lock and SEAl the canopy.

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>>144065523
I pulled down on the stick and the fucking thing wouldn't even lift up

>>144058173
Do DIY, it's easy as shit even if it might look difficult at a first one-eyed glance

If you really can't be bothered and have money to throw away get either delanclip or trackhat

If you really hate money then throw it at TrackIR

>>144065675

wut

so you advanced the throttle all the way to afterburner and it didn't gain enough speed to take off?

Sounds like you did something wrong m8

>>144064317
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=135765

Download the MiG-21 guide homie

>>144065675
Did the stick in the cockpit move? was the SAU 'autopilot' on? Did you check your control surfaces were moving before takeoff?

>>144065786
It was going fast on the ground and just wouldn't lift up
>>144065654
Forgot to close the canopy and that went off easily haha

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>>144065851
Allah abkar fellow brothers, i have achieved flight, wheres the button to lower the gear?

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Razbam confirm they're doing the Mirage IIICJ 'oy vey'.

Kinda disappointing it's not an E desu, though I gather it'll have R530 SARH & AA.20 A2G missiles. Which might give it a chance at fighting the mid 70s F-5 & '21.

>>144066242
Big lever, left hand side of cockpit, has to be 'unlocked' before use. Return it to the neutral position when the gear are up to save hydraulic fluid.

>>144066326
Now the landing gear won't go up, anyone know what could be the cause?

>>144066859

are you raising the lever, or lowering it? right click on it to raise it.

If you overspeed the gear, they might lock down, I dunno.

>>144066859
Flying around at high speed with it down isn't good for the gear, that and rough takeoffs can damage it.

Make sure the gear lever lock is off.

>>144066937
>>144066920
I think i damaged it when i was taking off like crazy

>>144066326
NESHIR WHEN

>tfw Cobra88 is in the Mirage slot you need
>literally all he ever does is get shot down by F-4s and get in the way of clean radar locks for your mig-21

I hate him so bad.

>>144067987

Someone in another Mirage just saved his ass from an F-4.

>>144058564
>prop-pitch
Oh don't worry, the average DCS retard doesn't any better about that, heat management, mixture percentage when to use flaps, fucking BFM, sometimes even trimming, and so on.

>>144069609
>when to use flaps
like never...

the excess power loss above actual combat speeds is incredibly prohibitive.

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>loading up the ka-50 for a quick shits n giggles flight
>see this

I know it says pdop30 don't ruin my fun

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>>144072415
>another neat chopper we'll never get

>Mirage IIICJ has been announced
>but we will never get another full-fidelity MiG

LEATHERNECK STOP FUCKIN AROUND AND MAKE MIG-23 FOR THE QUICKBUX PLEASE

>>144073753
Best thing about French Jets is that they can just as easily be Red as Blue.

>>144074025
>implying they won't be locked to Blue only in the inevitable Buddy Spike events featuring them

They already tried that shit once.

>>144072415
>no AH-56 prototype in Wargame

just. why

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>>144073753
Does the CJ even have an RWR?
Afaik the E does but I'm not sure which, probably a BF (pic related). Maybe worse.

>>144075586
I think it does, but I wouldn't expect it to be much different from what you've posted.

SPO-10 looks revolutionary in comparison

What has Razbam more or less officially announced other than
Mirage 3
Kfir
Harrier GR8/AV-8B
(Super) Etandard
A-6
(Super) Tucano
?

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>>144075807
Is this an antenna or a drogue chute or what? Because if it's not, I don't see an RWR on this tail.

>>144076371
Everything under the sun.

>>144076498
>buy manual for the plane
News Update: we have started working on the plane, and we're going at a good pace. ))))))

>>144076371
They've got an A-7 model and cockpit they completed for FSX, it hasn't been announced yet, but I really wouldn't be surprised if that came to DCS eventually.. seems to be popular, and the community seems to want more 60s-70s birds in general

>>144076498
Looks like just a chute, not that I'd be able to tell.

At least they're saying on the forums that they may try to include the IIIE. They'll probably shoot for it since that's the variant most relevant to their silly little spic continent.

>>144076973
Obviously an E would be the most desirable, but doesn't it have some form of A2G radar?

>>144076637
>it hasn't been announced yet,
From the pidor dynamics forums:
>For those who do not follow the Facebook page of Razbam sim, they have mentioned there yesterday that they will indeed bring A-7 to DCS but it will have to wait after the Mirage.

>blasting a convoy with the 12.7/7.62 pods on the Mi-8
>BTR is escorting them
>realize this a bit too late
>TICK TICK TICK
>peel off, put a hill between me and the convoy and start to scan my instruments to see if anything got fucked
>autopilot fail so no stability assist, left engine is running noticeably slower and colder than the right
>lower the collective to lose some altitude
>helo begins shaking violently
>oh shit nigger what the fuck are you doing
>THUNK
>left engine needle pegs on the low end, main rotor RPM dives
>now running a helo that is at 97% max takeoff weight on a single engine
>running landing at an airbase nearby

helicopters are fun

gunships when

B

L

BMS ops WHEN

Y

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>>144045447
>unofficial mod by fucking leddit
>still better than anything made by VEAO

>mirage III

Yoooooooo

The more things for the 21 to fight, the better.

>>144083604
An "officially supported" mod can hardly be defined as such. - Confucius

Also
V

>>144053145
People without a squadron should be assigned a side randomly. Every 15 yo shitter just "murrica strong" blue team reflexively.

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Guise, if comfy glorified bus driving is not fun, then why are there WAY MORE MANY autism-level airliner simulations than pew-pew planes?

>>144083843
That's a terrible idea, you'd end up with situations such as having unredeemable turboshitters on your team, or even worse, faggots that play on your team just for teamkilling until you can go to the other team.

>>144083948
>comfy glorified bus driving is not fun
Literally only one person ever said that here, the "4th gen is DA BESS, everything else is shit, shit SHIIIT" nigger.

Also because it's much less expensive.

>>144083948
Cheaper to make + FSX et al have no minimum standards for what crap is allowed in their game.

>>144083843

>the boys get on server and out number blue 2-1
>run an op to destroy a field and cap it.
>everything works perfectly with all roles executed by us
>troops on field can't capture a fully destroyed field.

"Oh ok, they made a balanse script so that teams can't just oblieterate the map when the other team is asleep, near"

>1 week later
>same exact situation but blue is capturing everything anyway

Are you fucking serious.
Why does the only decent event on DCS have to be run by complete retards.

>>144084016
>>144084037
Then there's nothing shameful for me having a boner for the upcoming PMDG DC-6?
Except that it's for X-plane only at the time being.

>>144084037
>FSX et al have no minimum standards for what crap is allowed in their game
>implying ED has standarts
How the heck was VEAO allowed to release total shittiness, then?

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>>144060116
AOA (Angle Of Attack)
The difference between the direction your nose is pointing and the path of flight. For example, if your nose is pointing 10 degrees up but your flight path is perfectly level, your AOA is 10 degrees. More importantly, your AOA indicates the angle of airflow onto your wings. AOA 0 means the airflow is directly on to your leading edge, AOA 10 means that your wings are pitched up into the airflow. The greater the AOA, the more your wings act as an air break rather than an aerofoil and at high angle sof attack you will stall.

Basically, you are pulling too hard, wich is causing you to a) lose lift and b) slow down.

>>144084502
VEAO and the other bad devs who ED told to fuck off are the reason for EDs high standards, it wasn't always the case. Just look for youtube videos of DCS:F-22 and Superhornet. Even a dev like Aviodev would probably struggle if they tried to get their license now.

>>144084142
Because you haven't made your own BlueFlag with blackjack and hookers yet. An I'm not even memeing - that's really one of the things nobody will try to improve on or beat because "it has already been done, why the fuck should we try to improve it when it won't be nearly as successful as the original"?

>>144064908
Taxiing the mig is a bitch. Plug in an xbox controller and bind one of the triggers to brakes, depress it slightly and you've effectively got nose wheel steering with the rudder. For better or worse DCS doesn't model brake over heating.

>tfw Harmless will never vector you to body yourself
why live

>>144088292

>You will never get vectored by a drunk Russian who unironically blyats in the middle of his calls.

Niemand come back pls

>>144085439
> brake overheating
The BMS manual talks about that a lot, but how big of an issue is it actually? Could you overheat the breaks just by taxiing aggressively, or would you have to do something crazy like brake all the way through your landing run?

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When will DCS have real bombers?

>>144089518
Never because it be booring as shit

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>>144089665
F O R
O
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Y O U
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>>144089518
Pretty sure you can get the same experience by playing FSX. Dropping bombs from high altitude is trivial.

>>144089665
IMO the fun or bombers is when something inevitably goes wrong and you have to nurse it back home, but that's kind of exclusive to WWII sims.

I suppose low altitude penetration stuff could be pretty fun in a B-1 or the like, but those kind of planes are probably still classified.

>>144094126

They don't get a penny from me until they C-101 has an EFM.

Having said that, I don't regret buying the C-101, but it was on one of those $12 flash sales, and I feel like I got a decent value for the money.

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W H E N
H
E
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>>144098127
Never ever

>muh data links

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>>144098812
Can you elaborate?

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>>144097680
I want it.

>>144094126

>tfw more redfor plons soon

Awww ye

>>144099019

>missiles on top of the wing

Fucking explain??? Never seen that before. Neat.

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>>144102262
Because it's fucking metal.

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>>144102262

>>144102447
>>144102486

If you don't think that is the tightest shit, then get the fuck outta my face.

>>144098942
I thought gripens had a data links and shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7qrYi8R_M

>>144089518
Never. The scale of the maps makes bombers flew by humans, how can I say, superfluous?

>script kiddies "hacking" the Blue Flag TS
Nice community you got there, very mature and everything

>>144101929
The Junker 88 is disgusting in so many ways.

There's an Apcahe pilot doing an AMA in /k/ right now. Actually answering everything for once.

>>144106806
>>>/k/30134303

What's the Assetto Server called? I've tried to find it countless time but it doesn't show up.

anyone excited about HMS Marulken?

>>144104979
Inb4 were behind it

>>144109882
>action adventure
Call me when someone is doing something as autistic as modded Silent Hunter.

>>144072415
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIoSPevvsds

>>144109882
The kickstarter is going to fail.

>>144109882
>HMS Marulken is a co-op simulation game in which a team of players operate a Swedish world war II submarine.
Sweden had submarines?

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>>144112043
>Swedish world war II submarine.

why is this even relevant

>>144111785
>>144112678
>>144112678
>Delirious swedes at it again

Nothing to see here.

>>144110978
Second best theme for rotor ops after Wagner.

>>144112678
The Swedish king got pissy when he was getting completely outshined by Hitler, so he created a super secret submarine force without consulting the Swedish government and sent them off to sink Nazi boats.

>>144114531
That actually sounds pretty cool

>>144077240
>A-6 and A-7 both coming
>F-5 will be in the sim in the next couple months
>Mirage F1 and Harrier on the way
>Tomcat incoming
>MiG-23 possible, not announced

We Area 88 soon.

>>144117340
>Mirage 3 and Kfir won't come anytime soon
>same for the Skyhawk and the Buccaneer
>nobody is officially working on the Draken
>Hornet will be released in 203x
Also I don't remember A-6s being in Area 88 and the A-7 would make for a REALLY shitty Crusader stand in. Oh and no Phantoms either.

>>144118086
>professional flying rod

>>144118086
>magic flight training professional flying rod
lol wut

>>144118026
A-6 wasn't in there, I just like it, and yeah, we really need the F-8, but I won't hold my breath.

A-7 should still be fun for dank air to ground runs.

Phantom WHEN, though..

Maybe Leatherneck will tell us what the fuck their plans are after the F-14 at some point; though I'm pretty certain that they need some time to get their shit together.

Half of my MiG is still broken.

>>144118026
Oh and last but not least:
>Tigershark and X-29? Absolutely fucking NEVER

>>144118450
The F-20 and X-29 will never come to DCS and I'm fine with that. Only 3 and 2 of the fuckers were built, respectively - not only did they never see combat, they never left the proving ground for anything more than being strutted around like pin-up models.

Go play Ace Combat if you want fantasy planes.

>>144118450
Tech demonstrators can fuck off, I'd be okay with F-20 though.

>>144118664
Just because they were never put in production it doesn't meant that they're fucking fantasy planes, and that argument doesn't hold any water because of the Horten 229. Consider suicide.

>>144118863
Then fly them in FSX, where they belong.

Not in combat.

>>144118664
X-32 WHEN

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fuck fantasy planes, this is real rotorcraft hours

>>144119143
At least the X-32's design seemed cognizant that the JSF was a fucking stupid idea to begin with.

>>144119059
If the F-20 ever comes to DCS I'm gonna play the fuck out of it and there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop me :^)

>>144119478
It'll be developed by VEAO.

Enjoy.

>>144119725
>VEAO
>not losing its third party license by a matter of two years tops
If anything it'd be made by BST, as it'd practically be free money for them.

>>144118086
Why do they keep adding these stupid handguards?

>>144118086
x-52guy here

This piece of shit is so uncomfortable that the handguard is basically what I "grip" onto to keep my hand relaxed when cruising, otherwise gripping a stick that's barely the diameter of my penis with my giant bear claw hands for extended periods of time is really god damn uncomfortable.

maybe I'll be able to afford a real stick soon

>>144120739
>big hands man cant hold the x52

tallets btfo, how can they even compete

>>144120739
meant for >>144120204

>>144120739
I can't wait for the T16000M's throttle to hit the market. After that happens the X52 and other shitty madcazt sticks will become completely obsolete.

>>144120739
I actually miss the bark busters from the X52 on the X55 because they gave you good leverage when twisting the stick to be accurate.

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>>144120997
>tfw I'm only 5'8" and have this problem

>>144121152
Will the throttle be sold separately?

>>144121182
>mfw flight sims are my only hope of looking down on someone

>>144121224
Yeah I think so. I saw an image of Thrustmaster's "roadmap", it included the standalone throttle, the revised T16000M(FUCKING UGLY, but at least the buttons and the little throttle seem to be much better)+the throttle, the PS4 ballcrusher pedals, the revised HOTAS X and a silhouette of what seemed to be a set of pedals with force feedback, slated for release in 2018 or something. You should be able to find that image on google.

>>144121827
Oh wait nevermind the googling bit, here are the fucking proofs: http://imgur.com/gallery/5tKNt

>>144122120
>New HOTAS by 2020-2021
>It takes 4+ years to design a fucking HOTAS

What

>>144122446
It's slated to release at the same time as DCS: F/A-18 Hornet :^)

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>>144119167

REAL ROTORCRAFT HOURS

IF U UP, D*E*S*T*R*O*Y THAT MF LIKE BUTTON

what particular marks of the hind and the cobra are bst supposed to be making? all I can find on the forum is people being pissed about the AH-1G

ATGMs on the Mi-8 fucking when?

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>>144122839
barrel bomb update when

>>144122446
Yeah, when you only have two guys working on it part time.

>>144122839
>>144123118

40mm turret on the UH-1 fucking when

>inb4 it never flew on the UH-1H

I don't give a fuck there's a position on the weapon selector switch for it and the H is similar enough to the B on the nose that that shit is probably compatible the H never really flew as a gunship either but we can do that shit.

>>144122120
That stick looks gay as fuck. Why can't they just make a budget version of the Warthog?

>>144123739
Because it'd have to be made up of fucking paper.

I have a better question: why in the fuck did VKB stop making the Black Mamba at all, and why don't they make good throttles?

>JewWay's texture pack is out now

is it really that easy to make $2,000

>>144124018
Why's the Warthog so expensive anyway? It can't take anywhere near $400 to put one of those together.

>>144124361
Low demand = can't scale production up to levels efficient enough to reduce price = high cost of manufacturing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNZ7p8CZqxA
>you'll never have a cute little daughter you can bully into playing dcs with you

>>144124848
The demand would be way higher if it weren't so unaffordable.

>>144124295
>easy
it's not really easy i mean making those textures is pretty grueling work lemme tell you, but i still wouldn't sell them, because they are fucking textures.

>>144124967
>forcing her to fly a trainer

Someone report this guy to child protective services.

>>144125214
Reminds me of buying textbooks :^)

>>144124967
how does it track her head movement when she's practically looking away from the camera?

>>144125746
Oculus has built in tracking.

>>144126569
That's what I thought at first, but then why does it still have the point track on?

>>144124848
More like: low demand = less competition = we can price things however the fuck we want = low demand

>>144127106
Oh and by the way this is exactly the reason why plebthunder with modern planes needs to be a thing. Possibly with a business model as bad as World of Tanks.

>>144127106
More like
Small population = small batch production = expensive = Not many people able to afford (small population) -> repeats

>>144128613

the warthog is overpriced tho

like you can buy a lot of the components used in it cheap as shit

I know R&D and tooling add into that, but not enough for it to cost as much as it does.

>>144112678
>>144113817
how fucking stupid are these guys.
>alt history ww2 wher sweden did shit.
all they had to do was make a coop american/britsh/jap/german sub game, and all those subsim poeple would throw money at them

>>144128752
>Swedes
>How stupid could they be?

i mean really anon

>>144128752

>coop

pls no

playing guns of icarus briefly was all the proof I needed that that whole cooperative-multiplayer-crew-game thing is an unworkable concept.

>tfw no more ops because everyone plays war game

we fucking /wgg/ again

>>144129104
Not when you play with hardcore people, like the =RvE=.

>friend tells me I should watch dslyecxi's dcs videos
>why the fuck not
>no explanation of what the fuck is going on, why they're moving on what they're moving on
>just that same fucking copy+paste DONT USE ADBLOCKER SUPPORT ME ON PATREON :) video description
>all his arma shit is just staring out the front glass of a littlebird

yawn. why is this fuck so popular?

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>>144129517
I'd rather have my team of random drunken slavaboos.

>>144129847
Because of people with no friends.

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2000 dollars nets you this

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>>144130554
and this

>>144130554
>>144130761
>there was no issue with the DLC/DRM/whatever
>ED just didn't want to charge money for this after they got a closer look for their testing/livestreams and realized how fucking shit the texture pack is

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Why was late Soviet aviation so cool. Something about their designs just sits so well with me. Fucking love it.

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>>144131567

AESTHETIC AS FUCK

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>>144131749

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>>144131951

HIND soon?

>>144129104
huh when I played guns of icarus with friends it was just all of us yelling at each other and having fun

wish there were more crew games desu

>Harmless banned from Blueflag
>80s Blueflag launches
>da bois face bans because craig won't fess up like the cuck he is since he's a terminal shitposter

What the fuck guys, I leave for a long weekend to do slav things and look what happens.

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tfw you will never get a fully clickable gen 4++ MiG-29K
>Carrier capable
>Tail hook
>Refueling Probe
>Buddy refueling
>13 hardpoints
>True multirole

Will never happen, feels bad.

>>144133620
what does the second guy do?

>>144133928
He sings pop songs on an open channel to disorient and confuse the enemy.

>>144133115

blyat.

I could have gotten us unbanned by snitching and telling them who craig was and apologizing to everyone like a cuck, but I told xcom to fuck him self so now i'm banned from the server, and their teamspeak.

>>144124018
>why in the fuck did VKB stop making the Black Mamba
Because they were using a grip and electronics from third parties.

>>144134405
You're unemployed, right?

>>144128716
The funny thing is they made it metal for the sake of "muh realism", but the real thing is made of resin, so a plastic grip actually would have made more sense and been cheaper.

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>>144135421

no.

>>144135542
And they made the inside plastic.

>>144130554
>those missing texture vehicles
I think you just need to repair your installation dude.

>>144135828
>He thinks he knows what he's talking about.

You are completely wrong you know, those are the textures for those.

>>144135542
We have a Warthog at work and I'm not impressed by it once I started messing with it. It makes a great first impression just looking at it because muh metal, but the instant you start moving it around it feels like plastic rubbing on plastic with really bad stiction issues.

Between that and my being less than enthused with Thrustmaster's racing wheels, I've come to conclusion that they're the most overhyped computer games peripheral manufacturer out there.

>>144135562
Are you going to be a cuck when your boss starts complaining to you about something, or will you tell him to go fuck himself too?

>>144136143
>Games and a shitty server are the same as real life

this fucking guy

>>144136143
not him
B..but xcom isn't his boss...

>>144136143

>i have to treat sergeant with the same respect as a random kike who runs a video game server

EXPLAIN?????

BMS ops WHEN

>>144136597
You fucked over a bunch of other people too, you know. Gotta act like a responsible adult.

>>144136865
not him
NO

ONE


CARES

ABOUT

BLUEFLAG

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>e-drama instead of discussion about planes

>>144134405
>get yourself banned by shit talking in sidechat
>tells the head blue flag fag to go fuck themselves
>wow Craig thanks for getting me banned
Why are welfare queens so oblivious?

>>144138148
I mean sure yeah, that's exactly what happened. If you conveniently ignore everything that actually happened.

>>144138148
Why are shitposters like you so dumb

>>144138401
>fucked
>dig an even deeper hole
>wow x wtf thanks
Delusional

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>>144138148

lmfao kill your self craig

no where did i say its your fault i'm banned.

u r really dumb

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>>144135952
Sure thing bro. They're well know missing texture place holders.

>>144139513
Those vehicles aren't the same model. those are on trains it's super low poly, completely different.
also the missing texture is digital.

Now fuck off you shitposting faggot.

>>144139256
>implying I'm Craig
Harmless yet again can't withstand the bait. Maybe with all this time off blueflag you can learn how to not be a bootyblasted idiot.

>>144139856

ok craig lmao

>>144140204
>Anyone who disagrees with me is Craig
Now this is rational thinking.

>>144140670

craig you can stop posting now lol

>>144140813
Take your own advice senpai, your shitting this place up just as much, if not more.

>>144141332

craig this is getting embarrassing, just stop please.

>>144141472
I don't even know who that is?
Why are you acting like this?

>>144141847
I hurt his feelings. Every shitpost is me remember.
t. The true Craig

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I want to make missions again but Overwatch has taken over my life. Please help.

I also tried to get /simg/ blueflag working but I don't have the motivation anymore because everyone seems to hate blueflag and DCS anyway.

>shitposting about shitposting

This has gone too far.

also while I think harmless' actions are absolutely retarded, they're also pretty goddamn funny.

especially now that he can't play Blue Flag but still wants to. Actions have consequences, but xcom DID need to be told to fuck off.

>>144142416
Harmless is gullible and stupid.
The mixture usually ends in hilarious chaos. Like so.

>flying over a desert listening to anything but this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XHfocZSLbo

>>144142227
>Overwatch
Contemplate your existence.

Anyway making a mission, spent half a day getting the immortality on an objective to turn on and off when different unit goes into a zone, so shitters can't cheat, now i need to setup triggers to unretard the Sams, this game sometimes.

>someone pretending to be me shits up the thread non stop every day

I'm done with /simg/ nigga. This is fucking gay.

How do you kill this Scorch faggot who does nothing but climb at 37k and just shoots missiles down at people with his babby15

>>144143608
This is tried and true tactic from sekrit documents of comrade zhukov, very classify, do not reproduce.

>be in MiG-21
>fly low to ground, below enemy radar coverage, duck and weave through mountains if possible for added terrain masking
>look up from time to time
>see contrails
>ask GCI what the fuck it is
>if hostile, turn emergency AB on, climb as close to directly vertical as possible as long as you can, pull onto target's 6 o'clock
>you're now in a perfect firing position for a heater, just close into range at incredibly hihg speed and use a heater
>target is now ded

High F-15s are the easiest to kill. I don't know what the fuck your problem is, anon.

>>144143935
>turn emergency AB on, climb as close to directly vertical

pretty sure a rutowski climb profile might be faster, where you climb up a bit, dive to supersonic to around mach 2, point up and unload to 0G

this ignores any limits which the Mig-21 has

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>>144143608
Nothing really. this is wrong>>144143935
Trying to fight an F-15 that's higher than you is going to require luck, you being higher than he is, or a shooter and bait grinder. AIM-120 has a considerable range increase the higher you go so you'll be at a disadvantage if your below an F-15 at 40k.

>>144144704
I mean, sure, so long as you don't pull more than -2G and flame the engine out.

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Hi everybody. My name is Harmless.

I will not be posting in the thread anymore, so if you see some brain dead idiot responding to obvious as fuck bait, it will not be me.

Thanks for the flying.

>>144145701
body yourself Craig

>>144145610
Terrain masking, being below radar, and generally not visible to the F-15 until you're behind ihs radar isn't luck, anon. It's strategy.

>>144143935
I would love to see a video of that working

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>>144145918
no video, but here's proofs

I should have clarified that you don't try to engage the F-15 until he's already passed you overhead, the idea is just to be invisible until the t-rex decides it wants to go fuck up something else.

I did what's exactly in that post for this kill.

Maybe I got lucky in that the F-15 was too retarded to see me, but he didn't know I was even there until I was on his six and locking him up to start shooting R-3Rs, which he lagged the fuck through anyway.

>>144145820
>implying terrain masking is worth a damn when he's at 40k looking down at you
To be fair there is a certain method to flying at 40k and some people do it completely wrong and some know how to do it right. Unfortunately SD SCORCH was trained by somebody who know what they're doing as he does high altitude BVR pretty well.

>>144146258
Yea, an F-15 can look down at you at about 20 miles if hes at 40k. Even if you hide behind a fuck huge mountain hill still be able to see you. How long have you been playing shiv?

What does the emergency afterburner do?
Does using the beam mode give them an RWR warning even if you aren't locking them?

If he's at 40k he'll be scanning under himself

so climb to 55k and attack from above where he least expects it

Mig-21 radar can only depress about 4 degrees though so you'll have to fly upside down the whole way

>>144147376
>hey why is their a 21 nails on my RWR??
>wow he isn't below me....where is he?
>scan up
>oh hey
>fox 3 at 20 miles because dat range increase
>pit bulls at three miles and fucks you in the ass because he has time to maintain lock
>your flying at 55k in a pencil enjoy your last maneuver senpai
wew

>>144147827
why would you turn your radar on 20 miles out in a Mig-21

>>144146756
since december, but only seriously since like march

Probably fishnuts was just too fucknut retarded to be looking down, so I got lucky.

Also I started outside of his gimbal, not head-on, probably had a little to do with it.

tl;dr, just be where the F-15 isn't if it has AIM-120C, because its vision is based off movement and if it sees you you're fuckin ded m8.

That said if you're in a MiG-21 and you and an F-15 are directly hot on each other, you're pretty fucked to begin with.

>>144148012
>I'm a mig-21 pilot and I know the exact distance of every contact in front of me and when to turn my radar on
this is you.

>>144147827
>placing yourself where the AIM-120 is most effective
>turning your radar on at 20miles out when the R-3R has an effective range of 1.7nm if you want any reasonable chance of hitting

I'm a fucking scrub but even I know this shit's stupid

>>144147376
>Mig-21 radar can only depress about 4 degrees though so you'll have to fly upside down the whole way

>flying upside down
>MiG-21

Want to know how I know you only fly FC3 shit?

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>>144145918
I've done it a couple times. I don't play DCS much anymore so these webms are ancient.