/emugen/ - Emulation General

>>143999684
first for mame input mapping is still broken on retroarch

inb4 shitposting and drama

>>143999775
>/r/Emulation mod here. This is a misrepresentation of our stance on the matter.
>You weren't banned for "defending open source devs"- we received a complaint in modmail about you doxxing somebody in the thread, and acted upon it in accordance with reddit's site-wide rules. It wasn't an especially severe case, and I understand if you take issue with our calling it that- but you still revealed personal information about another user that they clearly weren't comfortable having out there in public view on reddit.
>If we didn't step in, the site admins would have done so when the user in question let them know. It's one of the few things they don't fool around with.
>We don't exercise editorial control over what gets posted on the subreddit beyond removing rulebreaking posts, removing personal abuse, and redirecting tech support posts to the Weekly Question Thread- which is why that particular post got allowed.
>The implication that we somehow receive revenue from /r/emulation is risible. We're *subreddit moderators*- at best, we're glorified janitors. It's something we do in our spare time to keep a community centred on a subject we're interested in usable. We certainly don't enjoy generating this kind of drama- it's more work for us, after all.
>For what it's worth, I'm sorry it ended up coming to this- your posts were always fascinating to read. Obviously, you're always welcome back, should you wish- so long as you apologise to the user in question.

>>143999847
It's not. You just have to disable RA's keyboard mapping to avoid interference with MAME's.

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Can't we all just get along?

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>>143999958
>Obviously, you're always welcome back, should you wish- so long as you apologise to the user in question.

>>143999958

What's his name posted those personal details himself on Reddit. Go through his post count. You should be mod so you should know who the person is I'm talking about.

If he isn't comfortable with that info being out there why does he post and talk about it on Reddit to begin with? Sounds pretty stupid to me.

And why should I apologize because some person is stupid enough to divulge personal information about themselves they don't want others to talk about? It's social media, everything you say and do is out there and can be viewed for the whole world to see. They invented 'privacy' for a reason.

>>143999958
>so long as you apologise to the user in question

Kek. You don't know SP very well, do you?

>>144000234
Stick with your guns, SP. Reddit's a blackhole of shit anyways, and /r/Emulation users legitimately see no problem with paying money for emulators that use stolen code.

>>144000435
And for the record, I agree with SP. If you post your embarrassing shit online for all to see, don't be surprised if it gets used against you later. It's all fair game from there.

What was the dox?

>>144000234
>If he isn't comfortable with that info being out there why does he post and talk about it on Reddit to begin with? Sounds pretty stupid to me.
I already find the argument for posting easily googleable info doxxing but if the damn fucker posted it himself on the same fucking site then how in the fuck is pointing or reusing that info doxxing.

>>144000859

Know what this 'doxxing' shit amounted to BTW?

He is 20 years old, male, and he is from Texas, and he plans to retire before he is 40.

Goddayummmmm, that's some incriminating shit right there. BTW, this 'planning to retire before he is 40' guy is the same guy who wants to go all shark tank about 'gotta make that bread', and I guess there are few surprises why he would have such a cutthroat 'screw the other guy, let's just make a profit off his shit so I can retire early' mentality about himself.

>>144000585
This killed the Roger, though.

>>143999958
>plebbit
>in our /emugen/
No.

>>144001040
wat game is that?

>>143999652
Is OGL still bugged to the point of being useless on AMD cards?

>>144001032
I frankly doubt it, might have been a secondary factor and even then nobody kills himself over random people on the internet.

>>144001448
Vagrant Story, if you like that game consider playing Parasite Eve 1.

>>144000968
>He is 20 years old, male, and he is from Texas, and he plans to retire before he is 40.

The fuck part of Texas does he live in. I'd be lucky to be retired after 60.

>>144001536
Probably, the newer beta drivers show signs of progress from what I've heard

>>144001560
>Vagrant Story, if you like that game consider playing Parasite Eve 1.
That's interesting because I thought that game might be Parasite Eve. I really need to start playing PS1 again.

>>144000234
It is pretty dumb to post shit like that online if you don't want someone to find it then have a panic attack because someone noticed.

If someone tried to search for info on me I know exactly what they will find. Not fucking much. Not that anyone should give a shit to look.

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>>144001662

His definition of retirement differs from yours

>>144000479
You will find the same shit here. The difference is a name is attached to the stupidity over there and persists while things flow too quickly here and everyone has the same name.

>>144001950
Reddit is much more cringe inducing.

>"The emulation scene was shit for years until the Dolphin devs came on the scene"
is just one example from that desmune thread.

>>144002993
I saw one pretty nice one from someplace else

>"the reason pcsx2 has progressed at all in the past two years is because some of the dolphin programmers had nothing to do because their code base is so tidy and there's so few things even left to improve, and decided to come over and fix its problems in their free time and brought the spaghetti bs it used to be up to an actually workable standard"

Someday DRM and security will get good enough to be uncrackable in practice, which means no emulators for latest consoles, (because of no possibilities for reverse engineering and game dumps) preservation is going to be dead basically. This is also going to fuel the paid emulators thing because everyone and their mother will want to make money off software now that it's impossible to pirate, open source software is going to become scarce and devs are going to be ridiculed for not just selling their work on some app store (Microsoft's UWP platform seems to be built with DRM in mind).

Seeing how new ARM and x86 CPUs ship with hardware DRM-enabling "security" features already and how Microsoft and Apple plan on making use of those, I say it's a matter of few years.

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>pcsx virtual memory card is full
>can't delete my progression but can't save anymore

are they fucking serious ? make the memory cards 1mb large ? hello

>>144004851
Configuration > Memory Cards...

>>144004851
Use MemcardRex to edit it, 1MB memcard worked by externally switching which group of 128k you were using on it unlike 16/32/64MB cards on PS2

I am trying to play Days of Ruin on Desmume 9.11 and I ran into a problem. FPS drops down by 20 or so every time I select unit on missions with fog of war. What should I do? I think it has something to do with transparency

>>144003397
Dear god...

>>144005182
Enable dynarec in CPU settings.

>>144005550
Already enabled

>>144005182
>>144005963
post your specs (speccy screenshot)

>>144000968

Still meets the site's criteria, unfortunately- the fact that he wasn't comfortable with that information being used in a personal attack against him is all that matters.

Besides- respecting people's privacy online is a matter of common courtesy. If they're idiotic enough to let some things slip, that doesn't give you carte blanche to use it in a personal attack. Consent matters.

That you *can* do something doesn't mean that you *should* do it.

anyone got the new romancing saga game to work on emulator?

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>>144006052

>>144004851

Load the bios, and edit the memory card like you would on the real console.

>>144006580
Your laptop CPU is looking a bit weak for DS emulation, comrade.

>>144006580
AH NUU

By the way, can you delid laptop CPUs, or they use solder instead of shitty thermal paste?

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<romjacket> what does it matter. he's got at least 3 other accounts that are obviously him, as if they're needed at at all anyway.
<romjacket> maybe danny feels that because he no longer has any anonymity, no one else should?

Romjacket confirmed doxxer ban him pls

>>144006063
>>143999958

The Emu Mod is "Reverend Sins". Reddit faggot who posts here and on /r/Emulation.

>>144007358
Well, he'll only be posting on /r/Emulation soon enough because clearly he had no friends over here to start with, and he certainly isn't going to get any now that everyone here seems to be on SP's side.

>>144007303
those are two different posts which could be taken completely out of context.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE AWAY MY INTERNET POINTS!!!!!

>>144006781
Oh, come on, I was running DS emulation on fucking Pentium IV before

>>144007094
Honestly, I am not man enough to dig too deep into my laptop.

>>144007303
>he's got at least 3 other accounts that are obviously him

Which ones?

>>144007538
you mean...you're not my friend anon?

>>144007538
4chan is anonymous dude. No one cares.

>>144005182
>What should I do?
Maybe try no$gba.

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>>144007358

>implying Sins is the only mod who reads this place

>>144007647
>Oh, come on, I was running DS emulation on fucking Pentium IV before
Try running an older version of Desmume then. If that doesn't help, try no$gba. You don't really have a lot of options left outside of buying a new laptop.

:stopdrama:

>>144007905

He's the only /r/emulation mod here.

There's also that faggot Minty too, but he's irrelevant. In fact Reverent perma banned him recently.

>>144008138
>In fact Reverent perma banned him recently.

What did he do?

This ride never ends

>>144008383

being a fucking faggot 4chan shit poster like usual. this place doesn't bring out the best people.

>>144008383
He posted le happy merchant

>>144007967
>buying a new laptop.
Or buying a desktop like every sane tech savvy person that wants to actually play games.

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>>144008729

>>144008138
Depressingly, he wasn't permabanned. His ban's up in a day, actually.

Mednafen/Beetle PSX HW – Alpha test version

http://www.libretro.com/index.php/mednafenbeetle-psx-hw-alpha-version/

Sorry Plebbit, no plugs today :)

>>144004851
>he doesn't use beetle-psx
>makes a memcard for each game

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>>144009458
>NOTE: THIS IS AN ALPHA VERSION AND IT IS NOT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE UPCOMING BETA VERSION.

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yo /emugen/ Question
What can this spec run comfortably, or at least at all? Ideally i want to use this for ps1 an ps2 games

>>144011480
It'll work fine for PS1/N64 and anything older. Might be able to handle Dreamcast, as well.

Don't go expecting much success with PS2, though.

The 4chan was not invented for cat videos, childish memes and porn and a bunch of other low-grade degenerate stuff you know, at first it was intended for people to become more enlightened about the world around themselves and to up their level of knowledge so they can move up social stratas.

>>144011913
Is that a fancy way of saying "intended for discussing anime"?

>>144011913
Pretty sure 4chan was invented because 2ch started banning everyone without a Japanese IP from posting, and SA banned loli content around the same time, so moot said fuck it and made 4chan.

I barely knew what a pussy was back in 2010, and I started lifting talking to people and stepping up my game. I was not an expert in girls but I learned as I went along.

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>>144011913
you sound like a faggot. you didn't even post any anime

>>144012110
>>144012136
>>144012178


What you are doing is extremely disrespectful and it will make good-willing memers leave in disgust. What you are doing is actually detrimental to the development of memes in general. I think reasonable sane janitors in here should honestly impose some basic decorum here, this is getting out of hand.

>>144012403
Is this some kind of meta trolling?

>>144011797
oh thank you!
That is better results than i expected. but can you tell me why i cant run ps2? massive lag issues, and if possible could i run just the weaker games?

>>144012569
The 2300 GMT+1 shitposting seems to be a thing in more and more generals.

RetroArchism has gone through the roof, people think they are entitled to act extremely disrespectful towards standalone emu users and get away with it because 'muh dynamic ratre control'.


>>144012569
I'm just misquoting shit from the reddit thread.

>>144012682
You have what looks like either a very old or integrated Ati GPU, you're not running any PS2 games with that GPU and your CPU is probably too weak to do SW rendering on anything but the least demanding PS2 games.

>>144009458
Nice job, simias and zeromus!

>>144013187
>zeromus

Isn't he some Desmume faggot who hates Pokemon?

WE DID IT REDDIT!

https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/4lxezd/butter_flows_freely_through_remulation_when_the/

>>144013553
Yes, that Zeromus, and it's not so much that he hates Pokemon, and more that he hates children who can't understand why they couldn't have day zero piracy for the DS Pokemon games like they could back in the GBC and GBA days.

>>144013674

It's 2016 now. Why not have better Pokemon support?

>>144013991
Pretty sure Pokemon has worked fine for years in Desmume.

>paying to pirate

Why

>>144014162
Some people are stupid

>>144013654

>Emulate the Nintendo DS on Android smartphones/tablets with decent accuracy and playable speeds. It's available on the Play Store.

>It's a pretty great bit of work, actually- I recommend it, if emulation's your thing.

These guys are all middle class normies with 700 dollar phones. They see nothing wrong with paying 4 or 6 dollars for a program. Too much money, too little sense.

>>144014162

-1

I only emulate games I legally own, please do not presume. You are putting legitimate emulator users in a bad spotlight.

Squarepusher has quit 4chan like 10 times. He's quit reddit at least 3 times. He's said he's quit all social media multiple times too. He keeps coming back.

Red bricks > purple bricks

>>144014162
>>144014421
i feel sorry for you folks with no disposable income.
the american dream is real.
you can buy a hamburger and a bottle of jaydee from your car window here. it's pretty sweet.

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>>144014421
I like the post that really condescendingly says "wait until these guys need to pay for food and rent".

>>144014162
Why not? Cheaper than buying the hardware + games, but a better experience than your average pirate.

>>144014564
you mean danny boy, or twinaphex?

>>144012929
thanks for the help, bro

>>144001536
it's the driver that's bugged

>>144013654
>reddit

See, LocutusofBorges pretends he has no issues with Libretro and/or SP, yet he thinks nobody will notice these little subreddit drama threads where he talks 'shop' like this.

A backtalking bitch that can only gossip behind people's back.

>>144014564
I also remember when he said he would not be anymore involved in drama on social media.

He just cannot resist fighting with people that do not share his point of view and will always end up shitting on people that are either considered more popular, more successful or more talented than him.

With the new HW render, how do I get the games to show anything? Everything I throw at it shows nothing but a blackscreen

>>144016145
I don't think some nobody Reddit mod over a dead sub full of people who unironically think it's okay to spend money on emulators is more talented or successful than SP

>>144016675
turn off your shader or get a better videocard

>>144016765
I dot have a shader on and I have a 2gb card, it should be enough

also the game I'm playing is MGS which is a game they shown working

>>144017158
There's a file called retroarch-core-options.cfg in your RA folder, erase it, then launch your game, switch the renderer to opengl, close the content and relaunch it.

>>144016738
And I think Exophase is more talented and successful than SP. So what?

The irony is that he is complaining in the reddit thread that people are shitting on Zeromus and as a counter argument he is himself shitting on ePsxe devs and Exophase, while absolutely NONE of the concerned devs said anything in the discussion (and Zeromus is likely big enough to defend himself if he feels the need to).

Like it or not, SP is a drama queen and it always ends up like this with anything he is involved.

>>144017158
>I have a 2gb card
What an entirely meaningless thing to say.

>>144006063

who gives a fuck honestly. he should grow a spine and keep his shits private and to himself if he doesnt want people to talk.

fuck these kids that put all their private infos out there that nobody wants to know or read about then start crying when it gets used against them.

>>144017551
It's still pathetic. What reason is there to ever go digging around for someone's personal information?

>>144017442
didnt work

>>144017490
GTX 950

>>144017904
>GTX 950
I'm so sorry to hear that

>>144017942
the point of me saying what card I had shows that it's not a gpu problem

>>144015078
Happy to "gossip" to people's face here if it bothers you.

The only reason I commented in that SRD thread was to respond to the allegations in that @libretro tweet somewhere other than here. The guy was literally accusing us of being corporate shills.

>>144018942

it seems you cannot distinguish between reddit as a company and the small band of subreddit mods. you are just useful pawns to the company too.

Any progress on the Blue-MSX RA core?

Also, is the anon with the Vulkan build still here?

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Vulkan for Dolphin where? Windowsguys must be having fun with their DX12 backend.
>tfw building Dolphin everyday in hopes of Vulkan magically appearing

>>144019468
>with their DX12 backend.
Isn't the DX12 backend still buggy as hell?

>>144008138
Actually I'm not the only mod here. I didn't ban Minty or SP either.

>>144019119

You implied that we banned you for to stir up controversy for the sake of getting hits.

See: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1soo7ue

>To any opensource dev: these guys will just allow their users to slander opensource devs with fake 'accusations' of sabotage, and if you as a fellow opensource dev try to defend them, **they ban you in return since obviously, fake controversy generates revenue for them.**

...Which is such ridiculous bollocks that it warranted a response.

Reddit provides a hosting service for web communities. We're just people that happen to use the service - the company's staff have no role in the day-to-day running of /r/emulation (or just about any subreddit outside the defaults), and we really couldn't care less about our impact on the site's ad revenue.

By your logic, everyone posting here's a "useful pawn" for 4chan's current owner.

I appreciate that you dislike the fact that I hold different views to you on the topic of closed-source emulators- but that really had nothing to do with your ban. I wasn't even the one that banned you. Hell, I didn't even interact with that thread at all, beyond removing an earlier version of it.

>>144020926
>By your logic, everyone posting here's a "useful pawn" for 4chan's current owner.
>implying that isn't the truth

He's such an insufferable asshat.
You can't reason with his ego. There's no sense in trying. He can't admit when he's wrong even when he can see his error on the same page.
You're really dealing with a sperg who doesn't socially function properly. Understand that and put on the kid-gloves so you can have fun.

>>144020926
Why are Reddit mods posting here.

>>144021247
does that mean chinkmoot is an indirect school-shooting-lgbt-racist-mlp-loving-pedo?

>>144020926

dude, nobody gives a shit about this subject.

beetle psx gl renderer is frontpage news right now on major sites. nobody cares.

btw this is 4ch, not reddit. you hold no power here. go away.

>>144020926
>By your logic, everyone posting here's a "useful pawn" for 4chan's current owner.
It's been like that from the moment that ads became a thing, and if anything Hiroshima made things worse.

>>144021558
>>144021586
>implying FBI employees aren't mods on both 4chan and reddit

>>144007538
I locked the thread that everyone is upset about yet I'm the bad guy. Not sure how I'm against SP.

>because clearly he had no friends over here to start with

4chan you a fickle bitch, never change.

Ok, round 2 of my attempt to share a working RetroArch build with Vulkan support:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/dll1je3ttpb8361/RetroArch_Vulkan.rar

Tested against another computer, so I know it works.

>>144021586
This is the place for drama not actually discussing emulation.

>>144017942
Good goyim.

>>144023018
>downloading files from 4chan

Guys, guys

https://www.reddit.com/r/picross

You can't pay rent in git commits. There is a difference between paying for time spent and fulltime. Demanding that all work be done for free also leads to stagnation as developer have to stop development to actually get payed. Giving them a steady revenue stream frees them up to work harder on the emulator making it a better product.

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>all these reddit faggots posting here from the fallout of that thread

I'm almost tempted to start posting futa porn or scat just to drive you out.

>>144023018
AMD friend from the first time you posted this

I loaded it, downloaded some bsnes core, changed the driver to Vulkan, rebooted, opened the bsnes core, and opened a game called Yam Yam (Japan), and it's all working just fine this time

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Changing the internal color depth makes the textures blue for some reason.

>>144023709
No Vsync issues or stutter or anything? If so, that's great to hear. Trust me when I say it makes a big difference for bsnes in particular, since you no longer need GPU hard sync to mitigate the massive input lag inherent to it.

>>144023898
No vsync issues, no stutter, everything is gucci mane here

>>144023718
You gotta restart for the change to take effect without causing that. The toggle is currently borked.

>>144023594
Do it faggot. I would help, but I actually want some emugen, not bans.

>>144023594
Apparently you haven't been to reddit before if you think that would bother folks from reddit.

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>>144023718

You can create or load a savestate to fix it. It forces a texture reload.

>>144024123
Forgive me if my impression of redditors was anything more than sissy normalfag attentionwhores.

Now I know they're sissy normalfag attentionwhores with disgusting fetishes. Nice.

>>144024251
>they're sissy normalfag attentionwhores with disgusting fetishes.

That applies to both sites.

>>144023552

Can you pay rent by being a subreddit moderator? No?

OMG, what are you doing???? Working for free!!!!!

See how that argument goes both ways faggot plebbitor? Keep moderating FOR FREE!

>>144024519

Reddit and 4chan basically have the same userbase at this point. Reddit might be a little more normie but that's it. The main difference in tone is because on 4chan you're anonymous and you're not trying to game the karma machine.

4chan is a cesspool but at least people are generally earnest. I can't stand the obvious "fakeness" behind many of a lot of reddit posts, where you can read people saying stuff meant only to gather the approbation of their peers instead of actually saying what they want to say.

Upvote if you agree with me.

>>144023552

>work harder on the emulator making it a better product.

And gives them an incentive to not share with the community at large and even take other people's contributions without giving anything back.

Got it.

>>144024942
I use 4chan almost exclusively to troll and vent frustration by calling people like you faggots, while on reddit I'm super friendly. I'm anonymous on both, but like you said, there are votes to consider.

>>144023552
>Demanding that all work be done for free also leads to stagnation as developer have to stop development to actually get payed.
Then get an actual job first before dipping into the grey area that is video game emulation. Don't kid yourself: emulation of video games for a large portion of users is playing pirated software. Do you really think it's a sustainable line of work without some other career to fallback on? Take byuu who worked a proper job while developing bsnes (his method of how he did it is irrelevant here).

http://board.byuu.org/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1108&sid=1d83a1df0ab187bd61afb075a22107a3&start=0#p25828
>The thing is, I don't even really want money. I never asked for nor accepted a single contribution prior to the SNES preservation and chip decapping stuff.
>When I'm not buying literally thousands of complete-in-box games, I make enough at my job that I don't need any additional funding.

>>144025148

The Mednafen / Beetle PSX GL renderer right now shows just how 'far' closed-source PSX GL faggotry got us for all these years.

It took until fucking 2016 before a decent relatively modern open source GL renderer became available, and if it had been up to the 'PSX scene' that might have been postponed until 2020.

At least SP got that ball rolling. Might not be a master dev but neither was byuu, they just get shit rolling in the right direction and that is necessary.

>>144024942
>at least people are generally earnest.

Not as often as one would like. People here like to say stupid nasty shit just to say stupid nasty shit. Kiddies on 4chan too often remind me of Call of Duty bad asses fucking everyones mom.

The dev ball licking and karma whoring on reddit does get old as hell.

>>144025646
How can you be sure those people aren't just rude and awful all of the time?

>>144025590
>and if it had been up to the 'PSX scene' that might have been postponed until 2020.

Or ever. They have Pete's OpenGL 1 and 2 plugins. Instead of ditching 2, they made work around programs to improve OpenGL2. No one is working on any new kind of renderer, or to make 1 as good as 2. Even ICapThunder is working on tweaks to these two plugins, rather than anything new.

so when would the PSX scene have done it? My preidction is NEVER.

>>144023718

I've just commited a fix for that. There's still the problem of the black screen when you change the internal upscaling though.

>>144025646

Yeah but you learn to mentally filter those people after a while I think. It depends on the boards you're browsing obviously, when the shitposting reaches critical mass it's basically impossible to have any constructive discussion. Take /v/ for instance, it's basically a lost cause at that point.

/emugen/ is confidential enough that it's still manageable.

Hey retard here.I need help with the MGBA emulator. i used to use Vba waaaay back when, and decided to come back to emulation. When i try running Mario and luigi superstar saga, the video and sound lags like FUCK. Any solutions or recommendations on the settings?
(I'm the anon who was asking about ps1 and ps2 games on the shit laptop)

>>144023018
>RA crashes every time I try to run a game with Vulkan
Goddamnit

>>144026416
The AMD K10 guy?

>>144027375
Ye. I think what i'm having an accuracy issue. I'm baby new to this

>>144025590
tell me when Mednafen / Beetle PSX GL renderer works perfectly fine on a toaster. Until then, I'll gladly use a closed source ps1 emulator.

>>144028175

LOL, is that you calb?

Sad that shit is getting serious now eh? Pretty soon the supply of crack whores to run over with a freight run will run out

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>>144023018
>>144027318
Okay, so now I've manually changed the video driver to Vulkan in the config and now RA boots up and the games actually play. However, i'm getting horrendous tearing and stutter. I'm using the Higan balanced core. I'm running this on a G-Sync monitor and adjusted the frequency based on the "Stuttering due to inaccurate refresh rate estimation" section of "Using RetroArch" in the Wiki

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>>144014783
>but a better experience than your average pirate.

>>144028175

Software Mednafen works pretty good on a mid-range laptop from 2008. GL renderer should work pretty well on an even worse laptop. Not sure what qualifies as "toasters", but it'll probably be close.

>>144030394

Hopefully eventually, but it's really not there yet.

>>144017480
>>And I think Exophase is more talented and successful than SP. So what?

lol.

All that guy does is make speedhacked emulators for weak ARM systems, and rants about how he had a "bad experience" with open source while working on gpsp so therefore all open source is bad. He released Drastic for free (but no source) on Pandora, while he charges money for it on Android thanks to Google making it easy, and builds in anti-piracy measures (the irony), and refuses to make versions for iOS or Raspberry Pi because they don't have easy ways to charge money for emulators. The dude is very self-centered and is only relevant because he allows kiddies to play Pokemon fullspeed on their phones.

>>144030687
>refuses to make versions for ios or rpi
so what? God damn, you devs bitch about end users and then do this.
>very self-centered
compared to who? SP? Pfft.
>charging money
yeah, he can do that because his app isn't shit and it's easy to use.
>bad experience with open source
there's a lot of assholes working on opensource, so no wonder sp.

>>144031223
Keep defending the greediest emudev. SP may be a cockbag but at least he doesn't sell his users out and deny ports based on whether or not he can make money.

>yeah, he can do that because his app isn't shit and it's easy to use.

If it's going to cost money, it had better be so easy that I can mind control it.

>there's a lot of assholes working on opensource, so no wonder sp.

"muh feels" is not a valid reason to turn your back on open source.

>>144030394
I just tried latest epsxe and couldn't even use the hw renderer and the sw renderer was too slow for Tekken 3. PCSX-R's gl plugin did work but it was also too slow. I'm not even going to even bother trying mednafen.

I'll either use older epsxe or no$psx.

>>144031223
His "bad experience" has to do with a Japanese PSP homebrew developer named Takka, who forked gpsp into gpsp-kai.

http://www.qj.net/psp/homebrew-development/clearing-up-the-exophase-takka-gpsp-issue.html

>>144033165
reminds me of libretro forks

>>144033165

So he didn't understand how opensource worked and got all pissy when people forked his code?

Why are people so territorial with their code anyway. If the fork is good merge it back in, if it's crap then who cares?

>>144033165

He probably made it better too.

Japanese always add ingenius features or stuff that is rarely equalled.

Desmume X432R, TGB Dual, SSF, etc.

>>144031223
Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? "No," says the man in Washington, "it belongs to the poor." "No," says the man in the Vatican, "it belongs to God." "No," says the man in Moscow, "it belongs to everyone."

>>144033252
>guy forks emulator and adds functionality that was not in the original code
>oh no guise this hurts original dev's feelings

Every time

>https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/143675203/#q143955902

AMD video cards are locked out of using derivatives on Cg runtime. Thats why you can't do it if you use Cg on AMD and cannot see the ribbon.

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>>144034602
>AMD video cards are locked out of using derivatives on Cg runtime

>>144034602
Can't you just quote the archive or whatever. >>143955902

>>144034602
Have you looked at Maister's Vulkan shader format?

https://github.com/Themaister/slang-shaders

>>144034602

>AMD video cards are locked out of using derivatives on Cg runtime.

That is absolutely outrageous. Almost as outrageous as the time you and Rachel talked about the most effective ways to kill yourself, and how you did nothing to dissuade Rachel from suicide.

>>144035072
Does that ever work? I mean that's a pretty big decision, and if you're already planning to kill yourself, are some kind words from an Internet stranger really going to change your mind?

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>>144029720
They're really retarded.

>>144035072
This bullshit is getting old. There's nothing anyone on the Internet could have done to stop her for doing it. Only people who knew her in real life could have done so.

>>144027765
I've got an FX-8350 and Final Fantasy VI Advance is unplayable for me on mGBA, but it's perfectly fine on literally every other GBA emulator. Just use mGBA, and for situations like Mario & Luigi, use VBA-M

>>144033543
Takka's fork was better and it was the only version that worked on PSP's higher than 1.50 firmware. I can only assume Exo got mad because he lost "control" over it.

>>144035410
>>144035708

Might work or might not work. But who you talk to can have a big impact on your decision to kill yourself. You can be talked out of it. Rachel had serious medical problems. Finding a solution to that may very well have prevented her suicide.

>>144014682
we are literally causing emudevs to starve guys

we are the true monsters

>>144029693
>G-Sync

Does that even work with Vulkan?

>>144038662
No idea honestly. May work for regular games, but i'm not sure how it fares with emulation beyond RA

>>143999887
Some guy wants waifu really much.
https://github.com/libretro/common-shaders/issues/75

https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/issues/1376

>>144025590
Well that OpenGL renderer is basically one man project anyway despite being open source. Simias could have made rustation closed source and make money on this since he is clearly more talented than ePSXe hacks and Edgbla.

>>144041856
>since he is clearly more talented than ePSXe hacks and Edgbla.
proof?

>>144041589
>Look its not that I don't believe you but I can't let go of the Waifu look. Someone said pherhaps, maybe, with alot of optimisation, changes beeing done and a strong gpu, it could (maybe) run. If you are up for it, even tho you bassicly said that it cant be done, I'am opening a Kickstarter with a reward for whoever does this.

>>144006063

How does it feel to be on the new Facebook? Are you pleased with yourself, being a hotpocket for a place more stuffed full of bullshit than even 4Chan?

>>144007358
>>144007538
>>144007831

Old 4Chan would've bombarded him with enough cockshots to turn his simpering ass queer. What a pity that >>144007905 basically has the right of it; I'm prolly one of the only fuckheads here without a social media account of any kind.

>>144014682


i know they have realized that there are enough suckers out there willing to buy their emulators and even people willing to defend their jew tactics.

but is the market of retards willing to pay for an emulator big enough to pay for the dick mutilation you so crave?

i don't think drastic makes enough money to pay for rent and food, or am i wrong

how well do the ratchet and clank games emulate?
i wanna play up your arsenal mainly since esr doesnt work with it

>>144044828
Very poorly.

>>144045132
d*ng

Is intel + nvidia really the way to go for PS2/GCN emulation? I was thinking about upgrading to the R480 when that launches, but if there's a reason I should stay away from AMD, please let me know.

>>144047478
Intel is definitely the option, since FX chips are disgusting trash. Zen might change that, but it's too far away for us to know. Knock yourself out with any GPU, they're both fine on M$., the 480 looks like a fantastic price/perf option.

>page 10

Aw jeez. And I thought Halo General was dead!

Can someone explain the "Don't overwrite SaveRAM on loading savestate" option in RA, and whether I would want it on or off?

>>144047478
yeah intel + nvidia

>>144051953
I came here to post an explanation, but looking at the thread I don't think this cesspit deserves that, so maybe try a less shit community next time.

>>144053727
lol

>>144051953
Exactly what it says on the tin. Prevents SRAM from being overritten when you load a savestate. It defaults to off because it breaks a few games that utilize SRAM as extra RAM.

>SP posts libretro updates on HN
lel
why spam HackerNews of all places?

>>144053727

For the love of Christ, man: pleasepleaseplease suggest an alternative!

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This would have been so much cooler if i had played it on a regular DS (game is 999 btw)

>>144058818
why is it upside down.

>>144059013
Australian localization.

>>144059013
you are supposed to flip your DS to do the puzzle, explaining the reason as to why you have to do that means basically explaining the whole story though.

>>144060449
what a strange game. I'll have to check it out. I love sudokus.

The existence of closed source emulators doesn't preclude the existence of open source projects. If open source really did lead to rapid progress all the time, there would fucking be an open source n64 emulator out there that kills pj64. If all the available talent working on an emulator wants to be paid you're not entitled to the fruits of their hard work for free.

>>144060928

call me again when PJ64 has a 64bit dynarec. Until then, not good enough, and mupen64plus is better.

What are the notable differences between the libretro cores of bsnes-mercury-balanced and snes9x-next?

>>144061765
>call me again when PJ64 has a 64bit dynarec. Until then, not good enough, and mupen64plus is better.
that means nothing when PJ64's dynarec is faster than m64p's 32 bit dynarec which is faster than its 64 bit dynarec.

>>144060928
well said.

>>144062169

it means a native 64bit binary will only have an interpreter right now. terrible.

>>144060745
yeah it's really good. the thrid one (and the kast one) comes out this month and it has a steam version. the sequel to 999 (virtues last reward) only came out on 3ds and vita so you'd have to actually own one or the other to play it.

though i heard there were rumors of porting 999 and vLR if the demands there

>>144062257
why do you care about 64bit binary if it's slower?

>>144060928
>If open source really did lead to rapid progress all the time

That's a gross oversimplification and you know it.

You guys haven't demonstrated anything. You even undermine your point in your previous comment. The texture perspective correction enabled graphics plugin eventually came out as an open source project regardless of previous closed source efforts. If preservation of old games is your concern, you have nothing to worry about. (though this specific example has nothing to do with preservation since it's explicitly about an enhancement instead of faithful emulation) You seem to assume a closed source developer asking for money would instead offer their work to the community for free instead of perhaps not bothering at all.

I'm not trying to shit on open source work done for free as a hobby, but I'm trying to say that nobody is entitled to the work done by others. This is as true for emulators as it is for any other kind of software.

>>144061970
Pretty much doesn't matter for the average person.

>>144062783

Look guy, the concept is a simple one: until copyright is reformed to be sane and reasonable, Imma fucking rob your ass blind. It's open season on any self-righteous asshole who thinks his ability to flip bits on my computer somehow entitles his product to the same protections as physical property.

Don't like it? Don't make the goddamned software. No one will actually miss it. The world keeps twirling on.

>>144062783
>I'm trying to say that nobody is entitled to the work done by others.
Aside from closed source emulator devs though, right? I guess they're free to take and not give back?
Unless you think that they actually clean room reverse absolutely everything about a system solely by themselves.

>>144063683
You don't know either way.

>>144063620
(You)

>>144063758
(You)

>>14406377
>>144063820
Great contribution, guys.

>>144063758
So you think that they actually clean room reverse absolutely everything about a system solely by themselves. Not surprising that someone who thinks closed source and payed for emulators are good, is a complete idiot.

>>144064164
It doesn't matter what I think. If you're just going to start assuming anything at all, why bother having this conversation?

Anonymous isn't a username, by the way.

>>144064378
It's not an assumption, no one makes an emulator completely by themselves.

If preservation is your primary concern, a 3 year delay is meaningless. The ROMs and ISOs aren't going away. In the mean time, if someone with the talent and skill to develop this stuff says "I'll put my time and effort into making an emulator, and I'll ask for $6. That's a fair price for a quality product!" then who are you or anyone else to say that work should be shared for free? They may not even share your concerns about "preservation." Are software developers required to share your ideals? "I have spent a large part of my life honing this craft and I need to eat and pay rent, but for the noble cause of preservation I'll toil for free! Preservation of old games above all else!" That's just so naive.

If, instead, you want the best quality emulator to play games with at all times and you hate the idea of paying for the privilege, then your position makes perfect sense.

>>144063683
>Unless you think that they actually clean room reverse absolutely everything about a system solely by themselves.
If they happen to use publicly available docs, what's wrong with that?

>>144065139

The docs are copyrighted material and under NDA. At best emulators derived from them are grey area. If ever legally challenged they might lose. And if they did, most emulators could be deemed copyright violation. Emulation is a house of cards and could never withstand true scrutiny.

>>144064735
I don't think you know what an assumption is, because you literally just posted another one.

>>144065031
>a 3 year delay is meaningless.
Not today, digital only titles are getting pulled from online stores all the time. Online gaming networks are getting are going down.
>"I'll put my time and effort into making an emulator, and I'll ask for $6. That's a fair price for a quality product!" then who are you or anyone else to say that work should be shared for free?
It wasn't just their time, it was other's as well.
>>144065139
>publicly available docs
Like what? Most documentation - and this goes for all consoles, even poorly documented ones - is written up by homebrew devs, hackers, and emulator devs. For free, and for the betterment of the community. Taking that hard work, closing it up, and putting it behind a paywall is shitty.

>>144065352
And I know you don't know a thing about emulators. ← Another assumption, but it's also right, huh?

>>144065031
>That's just so naive.
What's naive is thinking anyone uses emulators for anything but piracy. Or that emulators are made only using knowledge legally obtained. Or that any closed source emulator in existence wasn't created off the back of an open community.

>>144065782

Okay, so you've admitted that "preservation" is just a politically correct motivation for most emulation. It's about playing old, beloved games when there is no other way to do it for most people. And you've also admitted that you don't value the hard work of others. That's exactly the stench your original comments had. Thank you for your honesty.

I'm not really sure what your point about reverse engineering is. You think most authors of emulation code are stealing code or something?

>>144065386
>Like what?
Like general instruction set documention.

>Most documentation - and this goes for all consoles, even poorly documented ones - is written up by homebrew devs, hackers, and emulator devs.
I wish this was true for n64.. Had to rely on buggy code until I obtained oman's archive...

>>144065782
>Or that any closed source emulator in existence wasn't created off the back of an open community.
Please explain how SSF was created off the back of an open community.

>>144066236

Not all, but likely many are. They either steal code, or more likely, re-impliment features other have done the hard work of doing.

Notice how epsxe always plays catch up with pcsxr?

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I've been on 1080p for several years now and am thinking of going to 1440p with the release of Greenland or the 1080Ti. How taxing is 1440p compared to regular 1080p?

>>144065835
>guy says closed source devs are bad cause they don't value the hard work of others by not giving back
>that means you've admitted that you don't value the hard work of others
wut
>>144065975
>I wish this was true for n64.. Had to rely on buggy code until I obtained oman's archive...
yeah probably not true for n64 or gba at first (gba had some 0day stuff cause of leaked sdks) but nowadays open source emulators have probably surpassed whats availible in oman.

>>144066290
Fair enough. I do think that many who close source their work are doing shady business. However, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, until I find out something questionable. I don't really keep up with epsxe, but ya stuff like that is shady, if that's actually happening.

There are some devs who close source their work that I respect, like that no$ guy.

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>>144066602
Try it out with your current setup if you're able, with downsampling or whatever. Cuts the framerate in half most of the time.

I have an old media center PC that I hardly use now and Im thinking of turning into an emulation machine instead. Whats a good emulator frontend? (i think thats what they are called)
Kinda want to have a nice looking interface when browsing through games since its hooked up to my TV. looking to put old arcade games to possibly playstation games on it.

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>>144067290
Retroarch.

>>144067241
>Cuts the framerate in half most of the time.
Fuck. I'll try running something easy like Air Ride with bloated resolution and report back.

>>144066602
Tried with Super Mario Galaxy 1, opening area, w/ OGL backend on a 750ti: 3x = 120fps, 4x = 80fps
So framerate loss of 1/3rd.

>>144067508
Whoops, I've never actually tried 1440p. I got that confused with 4K for some reason. It should be somewhere in the middle then.

>>144067669
That's just the internal resolution. Actually outputting above 1080p tends to drop the framerate even more.

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>>144067669
>>144067914
Welp. That's fine, I guess. I don't see myself replacing the TV anytime soon and it's 1080p. Maybe I'll get one with an actual 120Hz refresh rate, not the effective bullshit. Ah, I short Stadium run on Air Ride and it never dipped below 60fps to report back.

>Actually outputting above 1080p tends to drop the framerate even more.
Well shit.

>>144017776
>What reason is there
Shit stirring cunts on the internet. Hownu.ru.
>>144059039
Noice.
>>144061970
Fuck all.

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http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/FelipePepe/20150423/241730/No_MSDOS_games_werent_widescreen_Tips_on_correcting_aspect_ratio.php

>>144068037
What animu is that?

>>144067914
>Actually outputting above 1080p tends to drop the framerate even more.
Oh yeah, you're right
Fullscreen at 1080p:
>3x - 115fps
>4x - 75fps
Fullscreen at 1440p:
>3x - 100fps
>4x - 70fps

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>>144068180

>>144068037
>120hz

Would that even make a different for Dolphin games? I'm sure most are locked at 30 or 60.

>>144068454
It won't, it's just for other gaymes. Unless an emulator has hacks for that high of a refresh rate since I've been out of the loop.

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>>144068435
Thanks m8

>>144068435
Aria is a grand old world building. In their world we're all past forgotten rotting corpses, and that's why they're happy.

>>144068572
How about you fuck off and stay there?

>>144068037
Comfy room, friend. Except the tiled floor.
What country?

>>144068572
Nah, fuck off

>>144068572
>r/SubredditDrama/
Jesus, Reddit really is a shithole besides some few subs.

>>144068748
>Except the tiled floor.
Can't be helped. I'd like a better floor since I don't plan to move anytime soon, but I do not have any money for that.
>implying country when it is Puerto Rico

Pretty new to using Retroarch. How would I go on about adding cheats to use with the Mupen64Plus core?

>>144047478
AMD is utterly useless for OGL mode.

t. AMD user.

>>144070614
damn

>>144070614

What does this "t." meme mean? I keep seeing it but I don't understand what it stands for.

>>144075204
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/terveisin

>>144076005

Oh. I wouldn't have guessed then.

Any psp games I should emulate?

>>144079824
The portable ports of Armored Core are pretty good if you can enjoy that style of games

Ace Combat X/X2 is good

The remake of Ape Escape 1 is decent

The PSP R&C aren't as great as the PS2 ones but decent enough

Onechanbara is ok if you like anime tiddies and musou

Warship Gunner portable is good if you like boats and explosions and don't mind japanese text way better than the PS2 version because it has no slowdowns if you crank the emulated PSP to 1Ghz and way more shit to blow up other shit with

The two Burnouts on it are good

Disgaea are ok if you like grind heavy SRPG the platformers spinoffs are pretty good

All the Final Fantasy remakes are good if you like jRPG

>>144080329
>Ace Combat X2 is good
Lolno.

>>144081159
Compelling argument.

>>144081469
It controls like shit, mission design is hands down the worst in the series, plane customization is worse than X in every imaginable aspect, the music is 80% recycled from old games and it doesn't fit, not even /aceg/ likes it.

>>144081556
Ok

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Reminder that Vivi was the bad guy in FFIX.

>>144068572

>le downboat

Any success on 3ds emulation of pokemon?

>>144087069
Citra devs have decided to follow the example of Desmume and chosen not to support pokemon because pokefags are scum.

>>144079824
PSP is the srpg system for me

War of the Lions
Tactics Ogre
Jeanne d'Arc
several Nippon Ichi games are best played on PPSSPP (not Disgaea 1, it has a PC port now)

also, Patchwork Heroes is cool

>>144042486
Check their respective accomplishements, ePSXE is relying on ancient Pete plugins and still didn't release shit and he only made a software plugin.

>>144060928
Hello, copypasted post from Reddit.

>>144087349
Excellent. Pokefag tears give me an erection.

>>144088068
Have fun
http://archive.is/7HwAw

>>144087351
>not Disgaea 1, it has a PC port now
Which runs way worse than the PSP version.

>>144089715
Ugh THAT guy. I had to ban that fucker on a couple of his accounts not to mention all the spamming he did. Pokemon kids are the worst.

>>144089715

Reminder that Zeromus did nothing wrong.

>>144062169
>that means nothing when PJ64's dynarec is faster than m64p's 32 bit dynarec which is faster than its 64 bit dynarec.
Too bad PJ64's CPU emulation is significantly worse than M64P's, with the exception of things that commercial titles don't use (interrupts needed for 64DD emulation to function)

>>144091192
Bizhawk

>>144001662
I'm thinking of moving to Texas to get out of this shithole of a state they call California.

Anything I should keep in mind?

>>144091953

You already said that like one year ago and it wasn't any more emulation related back then.

>>144091953
South/West Texas - Mexico with better roads and sanitation

East/North Texas - Redneck ruralville

Austin - Hippies and shit

Dallas/Houston - Niggers

Pick your poison.

>>144087639
>Check their respective accomplishements
No offence, but I've only seen pictures that indicate there's a lot of problems with beetle's OpenGL renderer.

>ePSXE is relying on ancient Pete plugins
Well, I appreciate the fact that it works great on my toaster.

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CEMU BTFO

>>144091198
>Too bad PJ64's CPU emulation is significantly worse than M64P's, with the exception of things that commercial titles don't use (interrupts needed for 64DD emulation to function)
Uh, no it's not. Tell me why PJ64 has better game compatibility.

>>144024247
Betsy Ross in flowing gown carries American flag as space shuttle glides triumphantly overhead

>>144058818
>Last puzzle will forever be a sudoku

Do you play NES games in 4:3 or 8:7

>>144095237
8:7 with a forced 16:9 viewport.

>>144095237
4:3

>>144095237
Yes

>>144094232
You tell me why it doesn't.

>>144091953

Texas is a terrible state and you're a moron?

>>144100284
PJ64 has better cpu emulation. It's more accurate, compatible, and efficient.

>>144101224
Okay, mind proving that?

>>144101480
I know he's trolling. I know that you're also trolling.

>>144101664
>retroarch
found your problem

captcha: AVENUE de 1964

>>144101729
>captcha: AVENUE de 1964

>2016
>using ninty sixty four emulators other than 1964
I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>144101304
>Okay, mind proving that?
Anyone can test and confirm that PJ64 has better compatibility and efficiency. Even their HLE RSP is more accurate than standalone m64p's.

https://github.com/project64/project64/blob/6256e44ce4b72e454631c4b4c891b6b4817f14f9/Source/Project64-core/N64System/N64Class.cpp#L1851
this function is more accurate than m64p's

>>144102392
>Anyone can test and confirm that PJ64 has better compatibility and efficiency.
Okay, can you?
>Even their HLE RSP is more accurate than standalone m64p's.
You need to run an HLE RSP in 2016? Are you running a toaster?

>>144095237
8:7 stretched to 4:3 obviously, who the fuck would play at a different aspect?

>>144102392
>standalone m64p's.
m64p does not have an RSP when it stands alone. RSP is plugin-ed, and you can use cxd4's RSP, which means that any argument over RSP is over.

In the first place, RSP is not CPU, so you're in the wrong even bringing it up here.

>>144102485
>Okay, can you?
Try running Pokemon Puzzle League.

>You need to run an HLE RSP in 2016? Are you running a toaster?
Is there something wrong with preferring to use less cpu? If anything, I'd use HLE audio just so I can reserve more cpu for using an accurate graphic plugin.

>>144102618
>m64p does not have an RSP when it stands alone.
I said standalone, because libretro backports commits from Project64 to improve their fork of M64p.

>RSP is plugin-ed, and you can use cxd4's RSP, which means that any argument over RSP is over.
The RSP is a plugin, but Project64 has better plugins.

>you're in the wrong even bringing it up here.
I just wanted to highlight another advantage over using Project64.

>>144095237
You mean 16:15

>>144101545
>I know he's trolling. I know that you're also trolling.
Why don't you prove how PJ64 allegedly has worse CPU emulation?

>>144102392
>Even their HLE RSP is more accurate than standalone m64p's

No one cares about standalone. I thought it was agreed that we exclusively talk about the libretro fork when speaking of Mupen64Plus.

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>>144103356
>Prove our closed-source emulator has worse CPU emulation

>>144103193
>Try running Pokemon Puzzle League.
Works here.
>Is there something wrong with preferring to use less cpu? If anything, I'd use HLE audio just so I can reserve more cpu for using an accurate graphic plugin.
Unfortunately none of your plugins have sliders for "use less CPU without sacrificing compatibility pls".
>The RSP is a plugin, but Project64 has better plugins.
PJ64 does not provide a more accurate RSP than cxd4's.
>I just wanted to highlight another advantage over using Project64.
I'm not arguing about which emulator is better, I'm arguing about their CPU cores.

>>144103356
See:
>long list of game-specific hacks

>>144103563
>I thought it was agreed that we exclusively talk about the libretro fork when speaking of Mupen64Plus.
You should probably consider killing yourself.

>>144103594
Anon...

https://github.com/project64/project64

>>144103594
>Prove our closed-source emulator has worse CPU emulation
You can't possibly be this retarded :) .

>>144103616
>PJ64 does not provide a more accurate RSP than cxd4's.
Do you have proof? Have you checked every opcode?

>Works here.
Since when?

>See: long list of game-specific hacks
So you think Mupen has better cpu emulation because it has less game specific optimizations? At least Project64 lets you turn off certain hacks, while Mupen's forces it on for every game.

>>144104158
>Do you have proof? Have you checked every opcode?
I did not say "PJ64's RSP is less accurate than cxd4's", I said PJ64's RSP is not more accurate than cxd4's. The commonly accepted knowledge is that cxd4's RSP is extremely accurate. If you are going to insist that PJ64's RSP is more accurate than cxd4's, the burden is on you, not me.
>Since when?
Since at least late 2015 and possibly earlier.
>So you think Mupen has better cpu emulation because it has less game specific optimizations?
"Hacks" are not "optimizations". "Hacks" are "hacks".
>At least Project64 lets you turn off certain hacks, while Mupen's forces it on for every game.
If they're on for every game that means that they don't break other games than the ones they fix. That means that they improve the general accuracy of the CPU, rather than PJ64 which intentionally emulates games instead of emulating an "approximately accurate N64 CPU".

>>144104158
>Do you have proof? Have you checked every opcode?
funny you say that, this just happened in n64dev

[11:07] @Seru-kun | Running Sim City 64 disk is a mess
[11:07] @Seru-kun | I couldn't get it to run without either having an emulation error or simply hanging
[11:07] @Seru-kun | Solution: Use cxd4's RSP interpreter
[11:07] @Seru-kun | it just works

>>144104637
>Since at least late 2015 and possibly earlier.

Bull-fucking-shit. Post proof or gtfo.

>>144105004
Did you try checking the M64P bug tracker? You know, you don't live in a bubble devoid of information you haven't yet read.

>>144105004
>>144105062
Sorry, I meant the legacy bug tracker.

https://github.com/mupen64plus/mupen64plus-user-issues/issues/567

>Papermanzero commented on Oct 6, 2015
>Try glide64mk2. :-)
>The issue seems to be related to rice

This user clearly got it working.

>>144104637
>Since at least late 2015 and possibly earlier.
I tried frankenmupen a few weeks ago and could not get Pokemon Puzzle league to work.

>>144104637
>I did not say "PJ64's RSP is less accurate than cxd4's", I said PJ64's RSP is not more accurate than cxd4's.
Fair enough. I brought it up, because some people automatically assume cxd4's is more accurate. If you compare both to oman's, neither match 100%.

>"Hacks" are not "optimizations". "Hacks" are "hacks".
Some of these really are game specific optimizations. The only reason why they are options is that it's easier to manually check a few games and optimize the core for those, than to write some fancy program to analyze each game. I'm talking about things like 32bit engine, TLB, etc.

>If they're on for every game that means that they don't break other games than the ones they fix. That means that they improve the general accuracy of the CPU, rather than PJ64 which intentionally emulates games instead of emulating an "approximately accurate N64 CPU".
Yet World Driver Championship, Stunt Racer 64, and a few other games do not even work in M64p. RARE games were broken in LLE due to these hacks in m64p, until an outsider pitched in and fixed it. Standalone still hasn't fixed Kirby64.

>>144104845
cxd4's RSP doesn't check the addresses in the DMA read/write functions, so no errors will show.

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>>144105595
Pretty sure he was referring to that error message the other dude mentioned.

In any case, fuck you for making me try it again.

>>144106435
>>144104845
Actually nvm, I forgot cxd4 changed his dma code a while ago.

>>144106435
>Some of these really are game specific optimizations.
I know there are many, but that doesn't mean the remaining behavior hacks aren't a factor. When the emulators contain hacks you cannot compare compatibility with popular games as the metric for accuracy.

>I'm talking about things like 32bit engine, TLB, etc.
>TLB
Jesus christ.

>Yet World Driver Championship, Stunt Racer 64, and a few other games do not even work in M64p. RARE games were broken in LLE due to these hacks in
m64p, until an outsider pitched in and fixed it.
That means they're currently fixed. Fantastic.

>Standalone still hasn't fixed Kirby64.
And PJ64's "fix" isn't a fix, it's a hack.

>>144106548
Yeah, no idea why it works for me then. Maybe M64P is truly broken here and I have dying RAM that's flipping the right bits to make it work :^)

>>144106814
>That means they're currently fixed. Fantastic.
By using code from PJ64.

>When the emulators contain hacks you cannot compare compatibility with popular games as the metric for accuracy.
Since both emulators use hacks, I think it's fair to judge by compatibility. Some hacks are better than other hacks, like project64's rsp task handling, in comparison to m64p's. I think it makes a lot more sense to make hacks configurable.

>>144107639
>By using code from PJ64.
The magic of open source.
>Since both emulators use hacks, I think it's fair to judge by compatibility.
No, because they have different combinations of hacks active at different times. PJ64's compatibility will literally be better than M64P's even if their CPU cores are equal specifically because of hacks being configurable.
>I think it makes a lot more sense to make hacks configurable.
I didn't say otherwise. I said something about hacks vs accuracy that only makes sense in the context of the current conversation.

>>144107595
Take a screenshot or out yourself as a troll.

>>144107932
If I posted a screenshot you'd say it's photoshopped (I'd have to block out personally identifiable info so you wouldn't be wrong), so I'll just not bother. Continue thinking that it doesn't run, that's probably the case for most people anyways seeing as someone else here doesn't have it working.

>>144108153
At least state your build, plugins, and configuration, then.

>>144108292
Build: Latest from git (core and plugins)
Plugins: GLideN64, sdl audio, sdl input, cxd4 RSP
Config: default everything

>>144108629
Windows or Loonix?

>>144108687
Loonix.

>>144102392
More accurate, I don't know. More compatibility, I can say that with certainty.

>>144104845
Happy to be quoted. :D

>>144107868
>I didn't say otherwise. I said something about hacks vs accuracy that only makes sense in the context of the current conversation.
Ok, well PJ64 and M64p share quite a few hacks. Counter Factor, Delay DP Interrupt, Delay SI Interrupt, RSP Audio Signal (i assume), etc. I heard Franken mupen also has a VI Refresh rate, just like Project64. So what hacks are you talking about, besides the obvious good ones that improve PJ64's compatibility over M64p's? I just tried Frankenmupen and I can see that AI Shougi 3 doesn't work properly.

I'm honestly not aware of a single thing that M64p does better than PJ64 (in regards to CPU emulation)

>>144108804
64bit or 32?

>>144109130
>More accurate, I don't know. More compatibility, I can say that with certainty.
Didn't you say M64p's code is terrible? I think there's a reason 64-dd doesn't work.