/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & 4X Strategy General

what happens if I don't capture my old probes early on in the game? the ones containing info about my species

>>143985591
First for no DLC ever.

>>143985591
Better sector AI when. They are as usefull as a brick.

>>143985672
>old probes
?

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>>143985672
You get invaded by space niggas.

>>143985845
WE

>>143985884
>European
>phoenix
But thats a egyptian and asian myth

>>143985963
WUZ

>>143985972
Greek.
It has egyptian and asian analogues.

>>143986284
ALIENS

Has anyone figured out pops_auto_upgrade_to?

>>143985845
>>143985963
>>143986284
>>143986383
It's 2016, racism isn't funny.

>>143986536
It's Hitlerious.

>>143986536
Its 2017-1.Its always funny.

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>>143986614

>>143986536
Can you believe its the CURRENT YEAR and people are still saying things I don't agree with?

>>143986536
I'm not racist, but racist jokes are the best.

>>143987035
racist jokes work because they are based on truth

>>143986536
I mean come on, it's 2016! All fucking niggers must fucking hang!

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>>143986536

>>143987035
Racism is a crime and crime is for niggers.

>>143986536
I find racist jokes funny

t. spic

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what's a good fortress design?

>>143987795
All shields.
No weapons.
Not even memeing.

Tell me which one of these is objectively the best strategy:

>maximizing happiness (to get the +20% joyful bonus)
>going full slavery (+ researched slavery bonuses)
>going full synths

is the patch out?

>>143987795
All small weapons if you use FTL interceptor.

If I uplift militaristic xenophobes will they hate my guts or will they just refuse to migrate but otherwise be me burvs?

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Someone should make a mod to cause all xenophones appear like this when interacting with xenos.

>2016
>not playing hyperspace-only games
>not playing the most strategic mode of the game

>>143988020
>>143987795
so just shields to keep the enemy occupied?

>>143987607
But minorities can't be racist. That' what tumblr taught me.

>>143988096
>xenophones

I mean xenophobes, god damn it.

>>143988217
Are you implying that minorities can't do something better than white man?
Are you racist or something?

>>143988285
No, I'm just saying that racism toward white people doesn't exist. That's what Tumblr people told me, and obviously they're right.

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>>143988096

>>143988217
Any form of ethnic tribalism is racism.

Stating otherwise is racism

>>143988408
But that's racist

Hold the FUCK up. If I have strong negative ethics divergence, will that make conquered pops adopt my ethos?

I just noticed some xeno pops on my annexed vassal's planet used to be militaristic but now are not.

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>>143987996
Do slaves get happiness bonuses?

What is considered the definitive mod for Civilization V complete?
The community Balance Mod?
I have over 30 hours in the game and I'm looking to enhance my experience.

>>143989020
Uinstall.exe

>>143989020
>The community Balance Mod?
nope

>>143988498
*slowclap*

>I'd post a proper sarcastic gif but I'm on my phone

>>143989020
community balance patch etc.

it pretty much unfucks the more idiotic design decisions

>>143988498
Give that man a Nobel.

>3 turns into beyond the sword
>it's a barbarian event round
>5 out of 12 civs gets spit roasted by barbarians in 10 turns, me included

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Am I the only person here who just can't play as an avian race? I just can't identify with a race of bird people.

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>>143989368
>Not playing as an avian empire of Kentucky Freed Chickens

>>143989368
Stop eating at KFC then.

>>143989368
>I just can't identify with a race of bird people.

>but I'm perfectly fine identifying with a race of mushrooms

>>143989368
They're just lizards with feathers m8. Some look straight up like velocitaptors

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>Sectoring pops increases their ethic divergence

They're making sectors the shittiest possible alternative and then make it the only alternative, aren't they?

>>143989591
>Kentucky Freed Chickens

That's what I'd call liberated avian colonies.

>>143988508
Nope

>>143989712
Speaking of Ethics Divergence, how do I fix it in 1.1? It's out of fucking control.
I tried changing the value in the defines.txt but it did nothing.

>people honestly like the Reptile aesthetic
why

>>143989712
Not while vassals exist

>>143989883
You pick collectivism

>>143990046
I do but it's fucked up even then, if it goes too high it makes the ethics never change.
I have a pop at 80 % happiness and - 70 % Ethics Divergence and over 20 years it never changed ethics.

>>143989712
Why is everyone complaining about ethics divergence? What does it even do? I've never had any problems with it and I haven't paid any mind to it. I had Encourage free thought on for 500 years in my current game and it's done nothing detrimental.

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>>143990215

>>143990175
Same for me. I just ignore ethics and hope nobody blows anyone else up.
Would be nice to see a population breakdown that included ethics tho, right now there's only the one for different species.

>>143990215
[scared.png]

>>143990280
>As a scientist, I abhor violence
What did he mean by this?

>>143989898
Some of the hulls give me Taiidani feels.
Granted, most of them are shit but the same can be said for all the other archetypes.

>>143989368
I'm the exact opposite. I love playing as Avians.

Though Platypus is my favorite

Ok so if i wanna make a race that takes over the galsxy through non militant migration, how would i do it?
What traits/ethos would i pick?
Xenophobic? Will they even emigrate?
Isolated?

>>143990215
kek

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>>143989368
>I just can't identify with a race of bird people.

>>143990175
It's not really nice when you're playing as a Xenophobe with xeno only slavery and your fanatic xenophobes turn into individualists who go super unhappy because you're using slavery

It's just artificial difficulty. Your sector pops will eventually go insanely unhappy and there's nothing you can do to stop it

>>143990887
>nothing you can do to stop it
>lying on the internet
There's always EU4 for people like you, anon.

>>143988391
No anon, destroy this fucking book.

>>143990887
>your population will become unhappy for no real reason based on the whims of plebeian culture, followed by demanding you do everything differently to please them
Just like real life.

This is how the government during the counter culture must have felt.

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>>143986536
Day of the rope is near

Is there EVER a reason to go xenophobic?

The only one I can think of is if you want to only enslave xenos and don't want to use other ways to get 100% slavery tolerance.

>>143990418
Dunno. Scientists love violence in all its forms. From tormenting robots, to making frankenstein mice to just plain blowing shit up, scientists love violence.

>>143988391
Is this a reference to le petit prince? Is there ANYTHING that isn't a meme reference to something in this game? I just saw Omicron Persei yesterday ffs

>>143991076
Xenophobic gives you more influence and gives you the xeno only options

>>143985712
>Better sector AI when.

Same day we get AIs in Paradox games that can use navies and transports properly and does shit with armies other than arbitrarily moving doomstacks around to little purpose.

>>143991173
>Is this a reference to le petit prince?
I think it's a reference to Machiavelli, seeing as how the book you return is a treatise on politics.

>>143991228
>Xenophobic gives you more influence

Seriously? Fuck... I might need to consider it.

>>143991373
In 1.1 xenophobic gives you more influence from rivalries

>>143991290
Never.
Enemy AI is so shitty that it even don't bother to blow up outposts.

>>143985884

Why do you have those names redboxed? Do you think those aren't European names?

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>>143990887
>No 'autopurge pops with different ethos' for collectivists

>>143991000
The other option is to keep it for yourself and get some influence. Can't destroy it. Both options give you fuck all anyways.

What's the point of playing this game past 2350?

I found a floating tree of life that heals people or something and pressed "Give it to the leaders", do I get any benefits now or was that just a pointless event just for the fuck of it?

>play any space 4X game
>research new tech
>unlocks new building
>have to go through every single colony, one by one, and put in an order for the new building
>repeat any time a new research level unlocks a new building
More of these games need assign all, upgrade all and build-at all buttons.

>>143989368
Turians are avians and they are dank as fuck

>>143989883
you need 1.1b

>>143991927
Mass effect aliens are cool though.

>>143991821
Read the tooltips you fucking idiot. Your leaders live a whole lot longer now.

>>143991827
I think the greater problem is that every Space strategy game wants to make you handle sub-planet level micro. It's a bit silly that a leader with an empire spanning dozens of stars is dicking around with build orders on some backwater planet.

Sectors kind of... like, wants to deal with this, but the AI is terrible. It would be much simpler if you could simply set an ethos for a planet (Focus on growth, science, industry, military, etc..) and it would develop in that direction.

>>143986536
>It's 2016, racism isn't funny.

Sorry, bitch, history is cyclical. In 2016, racism has become funny again and progressives are on the wrong side of history.

>>143989020
>What is considered the definitive mod for Civilization V complete?

Just playing Civ IV instead.

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>>143986536

>>143989898
>not wanting to play as turtles

Why live?

>>143992581
>turtles
>not samurai pizza cats

>>143989883
>I tried changing the value in the defines.txt but it did nothing.

My change from a 10x multiplier to a 1x multiplier seems to have taken effect, my pops, as far as I can tell, have the ethics divergence rates they should based on traits and happiness.

Is there a way to make ring galaxies just a bit wider?

>>143992464
III > IV > II > I >>>>>>>>>[...]>>>>>>>>> V

>>143992790
Edit the ring.lua in Stellaris/map/galaxy

>>143985591
>get Earthbound
>a psionic fetus declares war on my human civilization

>download European Phenotypes mod
>go through the setup process
>won't work

Rangefinder and BB never gave me issues, I've done everything the same but I can't create Space Aryans

>>143992925
my nigga I really like Civ III, 2d sprites just look 1000x better than cartoony 3d models

>>143992925
>Shit Opinion : The Post
So how does it feel to have nostalgia googles 24/7?

>>143992234
>Sectors kind of... like, wants to deal with this, but the AI is terrible.

Sectors and core world limits would be fine if this were more like CK2 in space with a slew of multi-dimensional NPCS to delegate shit to and their traits, background, stats etc. had effects on the decisions they made and the events that could come from them. But just shoving shit under shallow faceless AI control is bad game design, better to just mod up the core world limit and manage it all yourself and never use sectors.

>>143991173
>Is this a reference to le petit prince?

The Prince is a book written by Machiavelli, you fucking tool.

> I just saw Omicron Persei yesterday ffs

I cannot fathom your stupidity. Please never post again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omicron_Persei

>>143993378
I can upload working version if you want. For 1.1 beta.

>>143992925

I don't know if I ever payed Civ III, I know I played Civ II a shitton and I played Civ IV a shitton, I may have never even owned Civ III.

>>143993526
>Sectors and core world limits would be fine if this were more like CK2 in space with a slew of multi-dimensional NPCS to delegate shit to and their traits, background, stats etc. had effects on the decisions they made and the events that could come from them.
I honestly expected that to happen.

why arent custom empires showing up in the menu when i do 00_prescripted_countries.txt for my mod

>>143993659
That'd be pretty awesome if you could

What's your favorite star, /stellg/?

Epsilon Eridani

Is there something in defines that I could change to lower the minimum distance between military stations?
>>143993902
C A P E L L A
A
P
E
L
L
A

>>143993805
I will do it. When I got home. Anymore requests?

So game got any update after 1.0.3? I've been away for like 2 weeks and wondering if they fixed some shit.

>>143993485
I played 5 first though when it came out and played the other ones after

>>143993902
Arrakis

>>143994258
Hu-uh ;^)

>>143993902
Omicron Persei.

>>143994258
>5 when it came out
Was shit, but it's actually good now.

1, 2 and 3 all have hopelessly flawed corruption mechanics, playing any of them after objectively better games exist is inexcusable.

>>143995004

2 was pretty good for its day and age.

>>143993902
Cknoor

:^)

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>>143989803
Slaves win then.


Specifically presentient proles that you uplift and add strong and industrious to and then enslave win.

>>143992934
Thanks

>>143995004
2 has a better way of handling armies than civ5 and civ4.

but yeah ics is just op there.

I did try OCC in civ2 once though and it was fun.
Great Library and trading techs was essential.

>>143993902
Sol

>>143990130
>pop happy
>massive negative divergence
>ethics do NOT change
>this is fucked up
huh? this is exactly like it should be

>can't colonize in vassals borders
why

>>143992681
why does changing the value work for some and not for others
are some of you too stupid to change that value and save the file or what's going on here

>>143996249
Negative ethics divergence is suppose to bring the pop in line with your governing ethics you retard

How do we fix warfare, /steg/?

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Hey guys, maybe someone can tell me what's the latest/most complete modmod/followup of Fall From Heaven 2? I feel like going back to it.

>>143996879
It's already perfect. You just suck.

>>143996992
Nice post Johan.

>>143996551
oh so you meant
>I have a conquered (or whatever) pop not in line with my ethics and it doesn't change to my ethics
but you wrote
>I have a pop that doesn't change
so I thought you mean a pop that is already yours and in line with your ethics and you somehow expect it to diverge away from that

anyway maybe write in a way we can actually get what you want to convey retard

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Do Xenophobes get -happiness on robot pops

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>anon promised to make gallery of all ship types per phenotype
>got distracted
>promised to finish it during the weekend
>weekend is over
anon, where is the gallery?
I can't decide what ship type to pick without that gallery and comparing
I literally can't play without consulting the ship gallery first

>be wardec'd
>select fleet, set stance to aggresive
>click on nme homeworld
>alt-tab away
>alt-tab back in 3 minutes
>enemy has surrendered
Nice game design Johan.

So when building on planets should I focus one planet completely and only on energy, the other completely and only minerals, etc?

>>143997174
The guy meant his pops aren't changing ethics. It's not my fault you're a fucking retard and don't know how the game works. Changing to the governing ethics is still changing ethics. Learn some english bud before Trump deports you.

>>143997921
t/ Former Paradox Employee who got fired

>>143997620
Reptillian > Mammalian >>> Fungoid >>> Avian >>>>>>>>>>>> Molluscoid>>>>>>

>>143998036
With minerals and energy you can really mix and match the way you want.
The only real benefit of stacking it is easier edicts.
For research you want to concentrate it as much as you can so research assistance can be used effectively.

Since minerals are pretty plentiful I tend to mix them in on planets if they have bonuses but otherwise ignore them. Dedicate one or two planets for energy as that is the late game limiter on fleet size and rest of the planets should be on research.

>>143998036
Doesn't really matter unless the planet has a global modifier.
Specializing is as good as just respecting the tiles and using your adjacency bonus sensibly.
Unless your planet is super small you should always build power hubs anyway.

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>>143998232
>posting claims without reasoning
>posting memetastic >>>> posts
>not making a gallery of every possible ship section combination for every phenotype
are you just memeshitposting?
do you even autism?
you should be ashamed of yourself anon

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>Invade Fallen Empire
>Rush their home planet
>Fucking decimate their ships as they come one by one
>Suddenly all of my forces decide to form a ball and fumble around like retards while the enemy takes potshots at my BBs
FUCK YOU JOHAN YOU FAT FUCK
LEARN HOW TO FUCKING CODE AI
REEEEEEEEEE

>>143996523
Does ANYONE know the answer to this? Why is editiong the modifier working for some people but not for others?

It's driving me insane, it's the only modifier that isn't working after i've edited it.

>>143997620
S-sorry, but some shit came up over the weekend.
Is a limited gallery of 3-3-4-6 screen caps per ship type, for each phenotype alright?

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>>143998695
You realize you can just go in game and type "research_technologies" in the console and then look at all the different ship section combos right? Or are you too autistic to handle that?

>>143998710
Probably changing a file that's being overriden by a mod anyway.

>>143998710
What are you editing the file with? Also Paradox has gone out of their way it seems to make this game have more issues than any of their previous ones when it comes to modding even though it's suppose to be "their most moddable game ever".

>>143998710
>Why is editiong the modifier working for some people but not for others?

Do you have mods going? If so, does one of the mods change the defines? It could be that your change is being negated by some mod which has a defines.lua in it.

>work at computer
>spend all my free time playing stellaris
>eat burgers for dinner every day
I've lost control of my life

I'm gonna get so fat

>>143998696
Git gud.

>>143999358
Yeah, but you'll be master of the galaxy.

>>143999358
Simple solution, eat less.

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>>143998814
Actually I'd be content with just the first standard section combination the game throws at you for each ship class for each phenotype. Getting a screenshot of every single possible section combination is overkill as far as I am concerned. That could follow later for completion's sake.

>>143999527
but I get really cranky when I'm hungry.

>>143999358
Cycle to work. It's the only exercise I got when I went to school (school, work, same sitting all day) and it kept me whilst not thin, at least not fat.

>>143999682
Work is like 10 minutes by walk. But yeah I guess I could cycle more.

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Find this Hmm...

>>143999559
Right on it, anon; stay cool.

>>143999641
Eat low-calorie foods, or vent your crankyness on filthy xenos.

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>>143999849
Hmm a fleet aye, sounds cool

>>143999849
>2258
>Ceta
>4 planets
>Ceta
>86 total research
>Ceta
>ONE science ship
>Ceta

>>143999849
Build some ships man you got 7k and 19/36

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>>143999849
>>144000059

>>144000059
>Tau
PURGE

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>>144000059

>>144000089
yeah i suck I know, was just being comfy

>>144000112
well see pic related

>>143999849
>Ceta

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>>144000285
So it was these guys fleet just outside their border

>>144000497
But I think something is wrong

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>tfw 70 years of black Chinese imperator in rule ahead of me

>>144000497
>79/37

What's the point in researching cloud lightning? The actual module seems shitty.

>>144000671
WE

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>>144000634
forgot pic. Look at the date they come back.

>>144000328
charlie sounds shit

>>144000767
yeah found another frigate from a normal anomaly in the same system, thats why it went up 2

Seriously fuck captcha

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>>144000998
Just keeps going up and up.

>>144000998
>charlie sounds shit
alpha
beta
delta
gamma

>>144000998
>charlie sounds shit
Gamma you pleb, if you were doing NATO phonetics beta would be bravo.

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Does someone know if this body is ingame but not available in race creation or what? I've never seen it before, I did update to 1.1

>>144001223
>delta before gamma
W h a t

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>>144001196
anyway thats the composition of the fleet maybe I'll get it in a 100 years or something.

>>144001224
meh I know I am a pleb. They used ceta in a novel i read.

>>144000896
And what about the fucking shard weapons? They seem crap too.

>>144001276
It is. Presentient reptile.

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I couldn't find the 1.1b in the MEGA so if someone can spoonfeed me it I'd appreciate it.

Have this short-story in return that is decades old, from Harry Turtledove's earlier, wilder days.
ftp://ftp.seti.org/phillips/scifi/Herbig-Haro%20-%20Harry%20Turtledove.txt

it's a pity that right now, you really have to struggle to cause your empire to collapse into civil war and fall into stagnation and recession.

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So what is better Robots or Slaves?
Dont mention sectors

>>144001816
Buy the fucking game you piece of shit.

I'm at 0.8$ per hour of entertainment so far, can you really not spare that money? Do you live in russia or some shit?

>>144001871
Robots aren't loud.

>>143993378
>>143993805
For a anon who ask for updated separate.
humans. For 1.1 beta patch.
http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/1hdmRA8X/file.html
Work for non legit copies too.

>>144001871
Slaves because it's fun to watch them squirm and think they can be free.

>>144002006
>http://www13.zippyshare.com/v/1hdmRA8X/file.html

Based anon, thanks

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>>144001816
Wait a second faggot.
http://www57.zippyshare.com/v/S3757gBS/file.html
http://cs.rin.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=68551&start=660
Working 1.1 beta patch for faggots like you.

>>144001871
See >>143995560

>>144000896
>>144001569
Anyone?

>>144001987

>willingly giving money to Parajew

Why not flush your money down the toilet or set it on fire while you're at it?

>>144000896
>>144001569
They are crap but they are easy way to get guaranteed rolls.
Its a safe guard against bad RNG.

>>144001987
>buying new releases from paradox
>ever
>>144002217
thanks gaylord

>>144001987
I would buy it if it was on GoG or not from Paraducks.
I almost buy it but my common sense save me some cash.

>>144002635
>Its a safe guard against bad RNG.
Ah that's fair.

>>144002578
>waa waa paradox caters to casuals
>what? PAY to play? Are you insane???

>>144001987
JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>144002823
Holy shit an actual paracuck forumfaggot
How the fuck you got so lost as to end up here? Wanna cybersex with me and trade futa doujins? I bet you fucking anal-virgin faggot don't even like girls with dicks.

>>144001987
>only 50 hours of play time
Step it up, $0.19 here

>>144003091
>not an argument

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WHAT IS THIS SHIT

why can't I have a normal,comfy game?
didn't invade anyone,kept to myself and this shit happens

do they always invade only you or is it random?

another ring galaxy game lost.never again

>>144003278
>implying retards looking for excuses can make up arguments

>>144003278
>>144003374
samefag, you're outnumbered here, you're the only pirate in this thread, cuck

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>>144002241
But that doesnt account for Share the Burden edict or that Robots consume energy instead of food and double colony speed.
On the other hand Paradox nerfed Share the Burden so you cannot have it as collectivist anymore (which means you cannot purge wrong pops) and energy is only important thing in the end

>>144002790
You are weak if you compromise your morals so easily.

Is it too much to ask that the people who made the game you play be paid for it? If you are playing it for hours and hours, surely it must be worth paying for.

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>>144003468
>you're outnumbered here, you're the only pirate in this thread, cuck
lol
>not shilling for paracucks and being a paradrone makes him the cuck
>ever supporting the steaming piles of shit that paradox releases and cuts content for later dlc

>>144003468
>get told
>"ablublu ur just a samefag"

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>>144003468
>you're the only pirate in this thread
Johan pls

>>144003468
>can't identify samefag
>can't make an argument
YOU HAVE TO GO BACK

>>144003624
Thanks for remind me.
I always pirate vidya.
I will stay true to my morals.
Never buy vidya again! Especially when pirated vidya is superior to legit version.

Are defense platforms worth anything at all?

>>143991756
Pls respond.

>>144003468
>calling the anti-pirates pirates

>>144004042
Not really.
As static defense?
Nope.
But you can use them as support platforms for your fleet when going offensive or just to drag enemy fleet so you can ambush them with yours.

>>144003340
>122 years in
>10k fleet power

You fucked up. Even historically peaceful empires have had enough military to at least defend themselves.

>>144004063
>what's the point of playing <insert game> past this point?

maybe it's fun? maybe you want to get the victory conditions

>>144003468
>Calling pirates cucks
Are you Paradrone, Swede or plain mentally challenged?

>>144003585
>Share the Burden
Add 0.2 to robots and slaves.
Slaves still win.

>>144004271
what you see is half of what I had when it started. I took out about 20k of them but there's still about 50k

>>144002823

>paying for shit you can easily get for free

I mean, if you want to brag about what a sucker you are, go for it, but don't pretend it's some noble choice to pay for a poorly executed game from increasingly lazy, slipshod developers who can't even into simple math. 20% in decimal form is .2 not 20, that's elementary school shit, you dumb Swedish mongs.

>>144003340
>Prethoryn swarm
>Hard

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>>144003468

>/v/
>implying the majority aren't pirates

>>143985672
what the fuck is a probe? Is it part of the new patch?

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>>144004349
So what is better then, 50% acceptance spiritualists or 100% acceptance?

>>144004727
>/vg/
>/v/

>>144003624
>Is it too much to ask that the people who made the game you play be paid for it?

When they make it so shoddily as to keep a glaring math error in after a handful of patches, and when they cram their leftist multicucktural ideology on you in their shit game then want to bitch about mods that go against their faggot sensibilities, yep, it's too much to ask that they get paid. Also when their only design and balancing philosophy is what works best for their inter-office multi-player session, you don't pay for their games. When you need a shitton of mods on release just to make the game enjoyable, you don't pay for their games.

Giving Paradox your money? Would you buy a fucking Bethesda game, too?

Do you guys colonize every single 20+ pop planet you can find?

Theres one that is right next to a planet i already own and i wonder if i should colonize it.

>>144004906
Apples are better than oranges.
I hope this answers your question.

>>144005037

Same shit.

>>144004551
haha yes xddd ~60k out of nowhere is easy

>>144005372
It easy when you are not a scrub.

>>144005372
I destroyed 3 fleets with 20k, and only lost 4 corvettes and 2 destroyers

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>>144005107
>>144005107

>>143993902
qenn, i always seem to find a shitton of resources there

>>144005257
>shitposters that only show up in /vg/ in the few weeks leading up to and after launches are the same as /vg/ as a whole
>a shit-filled board is the same thing as a board of generals that operate as micro-boards

>>144005627
>>144005470
I guess I'll try again then.but do they always invade the player only or is it random?

>>144005079
If it's so bad, why are you playing it?

I'm trying to take out 3 Elite Crystals to get to a Gaia world in the sector, are their weapons countered by sentinel point defense? They function similarly to rockets

>>144006078
To spite Paracock

>>144006060
It's random.

In mine they invaded the opposite side of the galaxy

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>>144003340
Bitch please. I'm playing a game where I was invaded by Prethoryn, three neighbors and an FE and when the Prethoryn came in, I had even less of a fleet and shitter tech probably.

I didn't even know how to put tachyons or large weapons on the fucking battleships until I had already fought off the Prethoryn after barely scraping up enough resources for a fleet after all but one starport were destroyed.

Fight like you mean it. Pic related. That was when I first encountered the Prethoryn.

>>143998696
Interadasting. I had my fleet fumble in this spot too. Hopefully i had another fleet that i sent from other side.

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what do I do with these little nigglets

>>144006524
Until they fix the AI, you're better off getting a mod like Beautiful Battles to fix this bullshit.

>>144007314
Replace and purge

>>144007320
Fix what?

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>>143980092
>I literally don't believe in conscious experience
>while using my consciousness to experience the disbelief

I heard there would be no worker unit in CIV6, is this fucking real? Damn CivIV is really the last good civ.

>>144007554
>Implying you can prove that we're not all just philosophical zombies

>>144007314
Purge them. Fallen Empire scum have had their time and they squandered it. Eradicate them from the galaxy.

>>144007660
I wouldn't mind. They're pretty redundant. As long as they don't pull off some kind of retarded system to replace the workers, it's k as long as they take a little step back from the ultra-casualized bullshit that was the Civ V.

>>144007660
There are also no settler units.

>>144006157
Anyone?

>>144007823
How the fuck do you found cities? Please don't tell me they're doing retarded crap like you can only settle X tiles away from your borders.

>>144007837
No.

>>144007938
They weapons are like the plasma throwers and kinetic weapons. PD won't do shit.

>>144007991
the emperor cannot protect us now

What's the process to auto upgrade a pop?

>>144007660
Civ2 didn't either.
It was fine there.

>>144007938
You unlock cities in that new secondary not-tech tree. You can put them in a certain radius of your cities that is later on also tied to tourism strength.

>>144007660
>>144007823
It has workers and settlers.

They mentioned linking them with a military unit in an interview.

>>144007660
Sid Meiers Endless Legend 2 : a Brave New World with no atmosphere

>>144008219
Civ2 had not worker?
What?
Call of Power didn't had them.

>>144006078
>If it's so bad, why are you playing it?

Because I like the genre, I want 4x/gs hybrid with space opera theme, at the base it's a game with a shit ton of promise and potential and modders will breathe real life into it, but all of the good that's there is in spite of the developers, their work, and their "vision" not because of it.

Also, I've spent more time adding mods, updating mods, and doing my own changes and tweaks than actually playing the damn game.

Shouldn't be a hard concept to get: I see the potential in the game and am utterly anally devastated that it likely will never realize that potential. It sucks to be in an age where computers have the ability to deliver games that we dreamed of as kids, but developers have gotten shoddy and retarded and just can't deliver.

>>144008408
>Civ2 had not worker?

Settlers made tile improvements and created cities back then.

In later installments it was split into worker+settler.

>>144008686
I remember if Civ 2 Call to Power offshot i also had workers+settlers

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>>144008368
Basically no more colonizing other continents or proxy wars in new world?

Fuck that game then.

>>144008686
>>144008776

workers was a SMAC invention I believe, so I don't think call to power had it

>>144008408
>Civ2 had not worker?

It didn't have dedicated worker unit, but settlers/engineers did settling and worker shit both.

>>144008776
IIRC CtP used a different system where you simply bought tile improvements.

>>144008776
>>144008906
The first call to power didn't have workers.
It used an entirely different system for terraforming and tile improvements.

You had a type of currency.
Like Production Points or something.
And you could spend them within your territory to change the environment by removing forests, or adding farms.

don't know about 2.

>>144008686
Aw crap, did i say call to power?
I meant this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_II:_Test_of_Time

>>144009151
That is the game I meant.
What I said applies.

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>>144008368

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what a shitshow

>>144008826
It's an Android game anyways.

>>144007748
>>144007436
can't purge
i'm not a xenophobe

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>>144008368
please be a ruse

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>>144008368

Why do Fallen Empires have such a distinct shape?

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>>144008430
Pretty much this.
Its even worse as they are not some nobody who just appear with a game but guys who presumably have tons of experience in genre.
There are plenty of things from EU or CK that they could used in game.
Like better diplomacy, way to handle vassals and sectors, governors and councils, forms of governments.
Heck even fucking map moddes and ledgers.
I told this before and I will tell this again.
Stellaris was done by a C-Team in spare time as a quick cash grab before HoI release. Success wasn't expected. I really wonder if Paracucks even considered to make DLC of it.
It was planned just as a cheap budget game for few bucks.

>>144008368
Sounds nice.

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>>144009629
Because they've retreated to a small bit of space, a center and a radius from that center.

Also, RIP Unidentified Empire.

>>144009717
>Stellaris was done by a C-Team in spare time as a quick cash grab before HoI release. Success wasn't expected. I really wonder if Paracucks even considered to make DLC of it.
I think they will considering the success and exposure.

Kinda like their hearthstone.
Except hearthstone perfect the UI for the genre, while the UI is better in all 4x games and all gs games I know of.

>>144009891
Oy mate
Aurora
Also Vicky 2 for newcomers

>sector AI still won't build happiness buildings
Just.
Why.

How is Vassalization Warscore calculated? I seem to be much larger than the others, yet I cannot vassalize anyone around me.

>>144010058
Yeah I'm sure the UI is worse in some games in the genre, but I haven't played them all.

I only played v2 briefly on a lan, but the UI didn't seem so bad. Maybe it was too brief.
I constantly find the controls and UI frustrating in Stellaris when I know how smooth it is to play so many other games in the genres.

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>>144010086

>>144010251
Only thing i really hate in Stellaris is mass selection in a sector

>>144010251
I know, right?
>tries to zoom out
>limited to one solar system
>only after I surveyed 10-20 other systems, I find about the galaxy button

>>144010329
>not he makes dlc
>he fules dlc
anyone have it?

>>144009839
Why don't you send a ship to help the frosty molluscs?

They seem to be pretty chill.

>>144010464
>fules

>>144009717
>Stellaris was done by a C-Team in spare time as a quick cash grab before HoI release. Success wasn't expected. I really wonder if Paracucks even considered to make DLC of it.
>It was planned just as a cheap budget game for few bucks.

Which is so stupid of them, Stellaris has a much bigger potential audience and potential profitability than HoI4. I never thought I'd hope Paradox would pull another dlc-fest like CK2, but I hope they do with Stellaris just so modders can have some shit to work with.

>>144010702
Pretty sure they have said there will be DLC so long as people keep buying it the same way with all their other games.

Considering that Stellaris launch is probably their best so far of course there will be ton of DLC.
Heck you can even see the spots where features were ripped out to be sold separately.

>>144010702
>believing bullshit

>>144009717
>ledgers
fucking ledgers. Trying to decipher how powerful other empires actually are is so annoying. Why they didn't just use the one from Vicky with changed font?

>>144011234
eh, that I can live without.

Found that playing Eu4 without ledgers and using more subtle clues on how powerful enemies were was more fun.

More lists of things you already know though would be nice.
Like a list of planets, with their modifiers.
So you don't have to click through 10+ planets to find the system you were looking for.

>>144010702
They cut shit from the game.
they are remnants of code that allow to demand/cede outpost in war.
Or to make tributary states(the one promised in 2nd patch).
I like the game even if its shit and I see the potential. But I fucking hate paracucks.
I laugh at /gsg/ before but I kinda understood them now.

>>144010251
I miss Distant Worlds and their smooth zooming between whole galaxy and single planets

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Hey anon, here's the ship phenotype gallery.

http://imgur.com/a/sDXJc

Ahoj, I have 300 ships, 2/3 corvettes rest BB.

Like 10 ships engage the rest blobs up far far away. What to do other than screaming PARADUCKS ?

>>144011665
http://imgur.com/a/sDXJc/all
*

>>144011665
MUH DICK

>>144009426
What the hell is that UI?

>>144011693
Split fleets.
Don't blob in one.
Instead one big blooby fleet of 300 use 6 for 50.
It also help if you need retreat.

I guess there is no way to ask for help from nations in my alliance?

>>144011665
>http://imgur.com/a/sDXJc/all
Based autism

>>144011997
Thanks, will do. Are there any penalites if I split ?

>>144011665
Good job.

>>144011462
>paracucks

Can we just stop using this stupid term? Call them paracocks or something. It even works better.

>>144011665
>>144011821
>>144012204
>Not showing the different sections for every ship
3/10

>you can choose between few big weapons or many small ones
>you can choose between shields and armor
>you can't choose if you prefer more slots for weapons or utilities
fucking hacks, I didn't expect Aurora, but this seems like basic stuff

>>144012248
No. But you your Admiral can lead only one fleet.

>>144012419
>wanting a minimum of 96 screencaps; 3 minimum corvettes, 3 minimum destroyers, 4 cruisers, and 6 battleships per phenotype
Plan out the combos and I'll do it for you anon-senpai :^)

>>144012418
Paraducks?
Paracucks?
Paracocks?
Swedes?
Somebody should made a poll and post it on /gsg/ too.
>>144012474
Yea its shit.
the only choice to have more utilities vs more weapons is on corvette hull.

>>144012474
Honestly, I'd love if paradox just gave us 3 models per section, each with dynamid hardpoints, and sliders to determine how many of what kind of slots we wanted.

For example, battleship cores have a total of 23 slot-mass; it'd be cool if we wanted, say, 1 large weapon, 3 small weapons, and 4 large utility slots; or instead if we wanted we could have 5 large weapon slots, 1 medium utility, and 1 small utility.

>>144012772
I love it how "Swedes" is used as an equivalent insult

t. Whitest genes in Europa

>>144012628
>Screencaps
>Not just showing them off in video at that point

Also, my suspicions have been confirmed, the tier list of ships is:
>1. Reptillian
>2. Mammalian
>3. Molluscoid
>4. Arthropoid
>5. Avian
>6. Fungoid

>>144012418
>not being a cuck lover

>>144012772
>Swedes?
too far man no one deserves to be called that

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What's the minimum planet size you'll colonize?

>>144012890
that'd be stupid, the sections have the hardpoints modelled into them, you can even mount weapons by dragging them straight onto the appropriate spot on the model

I wish the other components would also be modelled in this way honestly

>>144013080
i colonize everything then make it its own sector

>>144013080
20 if no good modifiers
maybe 16 if really good ones

>>144011665
>>144011821
Why are avians so superior


Let's just fucking uplift parrots and eagles already jesus christ

>>144012902
>video
nah son, 96 screencaps is autistic, but not undoable.

>list
Corvettes:
arthropoid = reptilian > avian = molluscoid > mammalian > fungoid
Destroyers:
arthropoid = reptilian = mammalian > avian > molluscoid > fungoid
Cruisers:
mammalian > molluscoid > avian = reptilian = arthropoid > fungoid
Battleships:
mammalian = avian = molluscoid > arthropoid > reptilian > fungoid

Overall:
arthropoid = mammalian > avian = molluscoid > reptilian > fungoid

>>144013080
All of it.
Bigger Empire is better. if you have few planets running that will provide you with spare pop and enough minerals you can colonize everything - fleet limits will not grow itself. You will also have easier times vassalising somebody.If its small you can always use them for mining/energy when respecing your big planet for full research and stacking bonuses on them.
Thing is wide is better than tall but it can also cost at first but t pay more after.
thing is if you play with core cap expanded or not?
If not then yeah sectors are atrocious.

>>144013094
>that'd be stupid, the sections have the hardpoints modelled into them
That's why I said dynamic hardpoints; have possible (but invisible) hardpoints moddeled all over the hull, but have them only become visible when that particular configuration is chosen.

>you can even mount weapons by dragging them straight onto the appropriate spot on the model
No you can't.