/twg/ - Total War General

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

The multiplayer for this game is fucked

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Blood Dragons fugging when?

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Is there any advantage to fucking about with the Norsicans as Chaos? I mean, it seems like the goal there is to replace the Skaeling and Varg with your cronies but isn't it better just to leave those stronger factions to fuck with Nordland while you go straight for Kislev then the Empire?

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Ahhh /twg/… the eternal general

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>>143958363

It's already been leaked that the new unit is the mortis engine

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>>143958235
For the one true Emperor!

Chaos design is bad in this game, whoever was tasked with making units didnt understand the implications of being a horde

and no, I am not that autist bitching about chosen, my problem is that the cheaper units arent worth it, because their buildings require population, AND increase the pop cost of all other buildings, so you are better off just ignoring stuff like trolls and chariots and going for the chosen, knights with lances and dragon ogres

So do most of you play long or medium campaigns? I've always played long in previous Total War titles but playing a game as orcs for long is fucking ridiculous. I destroyed all dwarves but now I need to go all over the map to claim the ruins that chaos shit on in the north and the Bretonnians shit on in the east, just seems kind of dull and a run around rather than the WAAAGH! I want to fight.

Also Black Orcs need bigger unit sizes, they actually seem to lose to a lot of things and Big Uns or Boys seem to do better.

>>143958363

tomorrow

>>143958459
Considering regeneration is shit in TWWH thats pretty disappointing

>>143958405
What is with that picture?

>>143958363
>>143958459
I'd be ok with both, but I think Blood Knights will be the FLC unit.
Abhorash as next LL with Blood Dragons as Blood Knights unit of renown!

So what's the skinny on DLC for this game? Seems like a good platform for it. Except releasing a race as DLC when it's on the disc

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>tfw Chaos gets wiped out without you even doing anything

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It's over boys, we're heading north. Gonna raise the remnants of the chaos invasion.

>>143958405
It's the long game for Chaos. The campaign intro straight up tells you tzeentch fucked with time and its unclear if the end times have yet to begin or are in full swing. you can take archaon and go straight into kislev, or you can go questing on his journey through norsca to unite the tribes and gather his artifacts.

doing either works because sacking is so lucrative, but having a 4-6 vassal norsca pumping out their own doomstacks in your name can be pretty helpful, especially when they join you in battle or raze a settlement you just sacked.

>>143958662
>Except releasing a race as DLC when it's on the disc
The 'only' (except for the Chaos Warriors which were free for the first week) on-disc faction DLC will be Bretonnia and they will be free!

is beating the chaos campaign on legendary an achievement? am i allowed to feel proud?

>>143958734
Chaos is specifically what I'm referring to

>>143958459
what exactly does this wacky new thing do?

>>143958667
Happened in my greenskins campaign, kinda disappointing but made finishing the game relatively easy so I can now play the fun factions

>>143958778
yes, but keep in mind
it's only game

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Since we are speaking about VC, why am I attacking all these other Lords who are Von Carsteins?

I have killed Frederick Von Carstein, Dierick Von Carstein. Is everyone related or something?

>>143958828
i understand. thank you

>>143958848
Only one can rule the Bloodline!

>>143958810

>220 points Chariot with an Armour Save of 5+ on top of it's 5 Toughness and 5 Wounds, but this isn't a Black Coach that you want to run your enemy down with. It's purely a support unit. It's offensive abilities are abysmal (unless you charge it into a flank) despite it getting a lot of little bird peck attacks, but it has decent survivability. Here's where you factor in it's abilities. The Reliquary ability gives your undead a nice regeneration boost to make them live longer/tarpit better and can hit a good amount of enemy units at decently high strength, making it one of the few good ranged units available to you, and with the amount of wounds it has you don't even need to worry about taking a hit from doubles, and even if it does get a little hurt, you can just heal it up yourself.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer/Tactics/8th_Edition/Vampire_Counts

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guys what is the best artillery unit for Empire?
i think it's Mortar because they are cheap and accurate

>>143958848
The von carsteins are the largest and most influential of the bloodlines

Blood knights only want to fight amd there arent a whole lot of them
Lamians arent big on fighting
Strigoi are both rare and completely degenerate.

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>>143959045
>Strigoi are both rare and completely degenerate.

For Vampires? Or Humans?

>>143958903
Can a euphoric gentleman translate this shit please

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Welp, legendary VC campaign has ended after 200 turns. There's no defeating this. Literally cannot catch a break this campaign. We'll be back though.

how to make a chaos army

doing the monster mash featuring forsaken is the only thing that has a semblance of effectiveness for me.

>>143959158

It just heals everything around it, and boosts magic.

>>143958820
But Greenskins are the most fun faction

>>143959025
the tank

>shogun 2
>broker peace
>war declared 2 turns later
>broker trade agreement
>trade cancelled next turn
>arrange marriage
>exchange hostage
>doesn't matter
>AI just does whatever

how is this series popular again? the war is repetitive as fuck, empire management is babby tier and diplomacy is beyond broken.

Is it just because all the other good strategy franchises didn't make it out of the 00's and the genre is naturally addictive?

>>143959175
that stack really isn't that bad. his infantry is all tier 1, the dogs and horses aren't really good, and trolls receive a mighty dicking from mannfreds magic, don't they?

>>143959234
Sounds like you are a shitter and need to git gud.

This series has survived because no strategy game offers a strategic campaign and as well as tactical battles.

>>143959227
tank is hardly consider an artillery unit though, it is a combat vehicle

>>143959360
There was competition they just all kind of blew though.

>>143959234
It isn't called total friendship anon

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Get fucked Todshitter :^)

>>143959108
Even for Vampires. They're basically devolved hulking monsters with more in common with ghouls than other vampires. Most of the bloodlines feel contempt for them at the very best. By human standards they're abominations

Is there a fluff reason for humans taking attrition on undead land and vice versa or is it just something CA made up?

>>143959415
Which competition? Unless I missed some obscure title there isn't any game that offers what Total War offers.

Especially in the size of the battles.

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>>143959108
Both.

The strigoi got assfucked in the ye olde vampire war. With the loss of their empire/clan theyve reverted into bestial shapes(but not full blown varghulf) and run around the woods fucking shit up for everybody. The ghouls apparently feel a kindred spirit in them because they tend to flock to strigoi more so than other vampires.

Strigoi are particularly hated by other vampires for two reasons

One; Strigoi will feed on other vampires, and that scares the shit out of them as much as it disgusts them

Two; When the strigoi go to war they feed ghouls their blood, considering ghouls are both alive and degenerate cannibals its incredibly revolting to the other vampires. The result is crypt horrors.

Crypt horrors are pretty neat. Basically the ghouls body tries to emulate the vampires eternal life and strength and super powers their body giving them massive muscles that they tear all the time but they constantly regenerate. The side effect of the regeneration(or rather cause of it) is super cancer.

So crypt horrors are really big really mean walking tumors. Crypt horrors only live for a few years after their transformation before theyre totally consumed

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>>143959187
a lot of great weapon chosen, chaos lances, doggies when fighting norskans and empire, replace doggies and halberds with chariots/cavalry, or more great weapon chosen when fighting dwarves

>>143959224
Only the campaign (eating captives, lots of whacky things happening to the heroes, Gork and Mork, quest battle speeches and so on) but battles aren't fun (well, except for Grimgor soloing armies and Doomdiver catapults).

All in all you're right, they're really fun.
But there's no spookiness, pimp lords or swag hats with giant feathers.

>>143959460
Only a braindead retard ventures into Sylvania, and for good reason. The entire landscape is incredibly hostile to outsiders, from the restless dead to the horrific creatures that haunt the forests. Also the trees are carnivorous.

>>143959360
Git gud at what? Broken diplomacy?
It's 8 times easier to just shit on them instead because the AI is terrible at war.

Tactical battle? Have more units or abuse archers
>enemy throws stack at garrison
>win
>conquer all of their shit within the next 3-4 turns

If you make it past turn 20, you've won. This game is trash.

>>143959651
Not if you are in raiding stance :^)

>>143959491
King Arthur: The Role-Playing game
Real Warfare 1242
XIII Century

They all kind of blew though. I'm sure I'm missing a couple.

>>143959460
it's an abstraction of a bunch of evil shit happening in evil lands. random animal packs snatching watchmen and dragging them screaming from their posts. outriders patrolling a road and getting pulled apart by living roots and branches.

>>143959651
What about for undead? As long as their leader is with them why would they take attrition?

>>143959460
You know that town near Vizima in the first Witcher game? One that's basically filled to the brim with ghouls, drowners and spectral hounds because of shit going down. And you keep finding corpses of villagers everywhere because even having lived all their life there they still occasionally got caught.

That's what undead land is like. The attrition comes from soldiers wandering around alone or in small groups and then getting eaten by ghouls.

>>143959726
I dunno, maybe some ghouls or direwolves dragging away some stray zombies? Honestly the only beings truly safe in Sylvania are the vampires themselves.

>>143959362
the rest arent really worth it, you are better of taking a unit of greatswords, or cavalry, or even just an extra hero

>>143959891
Its not like the citizens of sylvania dont enjoy it there. Its nicer than brettonia or the empire thats for sure.

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>>143959491
And then there was that one game, what was it called, oh I know Warhammer: Mark of Chaos

>>143959891
I mean undead in low-corruption land

>>143960006
Oh yeah that one was okay because of how good an adaption it was, but I can't get it to run.

>>143959234
Diplomacy in warhammer total war works great.

>>143959683
and this is why I dislike shogun, I actually agree with everything you said, its one of the worst total war games, but everyone praises it for some reason

>>143959349
>>143958675

I just fled from that. I have no men.

>>143959609
i mean in a multiplayer battle mostly. capiagn is great since you can get tons of cash through sacking cities, so price isn't really a limit

when talking cost efficientness against people in multiplayer battles, i get anally-thrusted consistently when playing chaos.

So why don't people like the vargheists? What makes them so shit?

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So tomorrow is the patch right? RIGHT!? I can't wait more to play as Bretonnia

BLOOD DLC WHEN??

REEEEE

>>143960320
oh I suck at multiplayer so I have no idea, would getting some marauders in spagheti lines in front of your great weapon chaos warriors work? maybe throw in some chariots or whatever?

>>143960391

>They die easily
>They get bogged down
>Dont really do much damage

>>143960478

after tomorrow

>>143960391
Good early game. Shit late game. Monsters are generally pretty shit if you play on ultra due to them getting bogged down easier. Also auto resolve fucks over single units pretty fucking hard.

>>143959987
Are you shitting me? Living in Sylvania fucking sucks. They live in constant terror of being eaten alive by undead or having the blood sucked out of them by vampires. Sylvanian peasants just don't complain because if they did they'd be killed, and they're too poor to leave, not to mention if they tried they'd be hunted down and slaughtered.

DANCE MACABRE

>>143959726
At least for the Empire it makes sense, Sigmar blessed relics in the ground or something sipping off the undead magic.
Maybe sunlight weakening the Vampire?

>>143959234
Oh, hey. Same shit.
>Hattori clan getting ballsy
>but all of his units are in one massive stack, attacking someone else
>take out his straggling units
>blaze a trail through his territory
>make like 6 vassals just to see what happens
>hattori pays for peace
>as does everyone except my weakest enemy
>who has refused peace since turn 2, despite never landing on my soil
>two turns later
>threat of attack from one of my vassals
>they have no army
>they're capable of nothing at all
>they're just going to declare war because declaring war, throwing deathstacks and breaking treaties is all the AI seems capable of doing

>>143960554
I love how all of them yell that with that retarded accent

>DANZ MACABERRRRE

>>143960391
I think , the problem is not the unit itself .

https://youtu.be/6cwQ1hOnIOA?t=1m23s

I mean , you always get in the middle , like when the demigryphs charge the ones who give the back and go that deep that they can hit you from the flanks , back , etc.

>>143960618
Sunlight, and the land isn't as saturated with Dark Magic makes it harder for a vampire to maintain the bindings on his undead.

>>143960540
Literally canon that sylvania has better living conditions than bretonnia/empiere

>>143960073
I got it to run with no problems on windows 7. Although it was from disc and I have to have the disc in while playing

>>143960745
Yeah something like that

Where should I go as Dwarves after I reconquer the Silver Road? Should I head south and try to take Death Pass from the Greenskins, or should I continue north and wipe out those Red Spear shits.

Also wondering when I should poop out a second army. There is a lot of ground to cover even with Underway.

Just got a follower whose tooltip mentions the Skaven, confirmed then? Ratmen when then?

>>143960496
well maybe, but getting all clumped up against someone like the dwarfs, the marauders and warriors actually get pushed back by regular dwarf warriors, and thats considering they also have a range advantage as well as cool shit like iron drakes, blasting charges, and bombers.

the empires cavalry out-performs chaos knights with their demigryphs actually being just as expensive.

orcs aren't actually too bad to deal with

death sorcerors can actually fair alright taking out wraiths, and flying units, but great weapon graveguards seem to plow through chaos warriors pretty easily. chosen do alright, but they get massed-up-on because of how expensive they are.

GIVE ME BRETONNIA GOD DAMMIT I ALREADY FINISHED EVERYONE ELSE

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Any good Let's Play memers? I found watching someone who is actually good at the game enjoyable when XCOM came out.

>>143960821
shit all over the two immediate greenskin holds to your south using underway, then just as quickly underway your ass north to take mount gunbad before someone else does. only raid south until you get confronted by and wipe out the greenskins' starting full stack, and maybe any other armies you see, or theyll just come north while youre away because the AI sees all.

>>143960821
Head south. Don't head north unless you like holding the north vs Chaos while trying to take the south once you are done with North.

How do I recruit heroes as Vampire Counts?

I can only recruit Vamprire Lords and Master Necromancers

>>143961000
If you want to watch someone good you won't find anyone among the popular TW youtubers.

>>143961000
>Miners

>>143961068
You know you can click province details to see the entire building/tech tree right?

>>143961068

Build the required buildings.

>>143960768
Not true, there's just not as much crime since all criminals get eaten alive. Literally only Vlad von Carstein gave a single shit about the peasants.

>>143961000

THFE Production

>fellbats trying to hurt my tanks

kek

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>>143960770
>On windows 10
>Built a new computer and forgot about disk drive
>Lost disk anyway

Well at least I have Total War: Warhammer now.

Tips for playing Greenskins?

>>143960958
>reat weapon graveguards seem to plow through chaos warriors pretty easily
do you mean chaos warriors with shields? they are worthless, in fact every unit with a shield is worthless because most elite units have armor piercing damage

>>143961000
I like Milk and Cookies Total War (Indypride), but he's a multiplayer only autist.

Why do people say melee attack/defense stats don't matter?

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>Decide to check out how bad Arch's playthrough is
>10 seconds in

>>143961138
No bully

If I read this right, there is a good chance im going to get attacked from within my territories. What's the best way going about being ready for this? Making sure each province can atleast field tier tier 1-3 barracks units?

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>>143961595

Poetry

>first wave of Chaos
>Kislev and Ostermark already fallen

This will be a fun one

>>143961000
i was watching some guy from Croatia, he was playing legendary and seemed decent, better then me at least.

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They're literally going to follow me forever, do they have nothing better to do? Just fuck off dwarf,

>>143961759
WE'LL KILL EVER LAST ONE OF YOU BLOOD SUCKING SHITS

>>143961672

4mins in now and it's much worse

>20fps
>Small unit sizes

Any tips for Vampire Counts?

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Do I do it /twg/ or is this the way to lose

>>143961836
sprinkle bats into your army. they can tie up enemy ranged units while your important troops like graveguards get close.

>>143961835
>shitty computer
>a "critic" of optimization
It really is poetry. Consider that this retard actually makes money being this retarded as well

>>143961836

Screen with zombies/skellies. Spam Grave Guard with great weapons as soon as you can. Use fell bats/vargheists to take out enemy ranged. Flank with cav. Abuse death magic as hard as you can.

>>143961897
Good job cutting off all the information that would let us help you

>>143961897
confederate as much as possible
ez territory

>>143961759
>>143961836

Colonise a bastion on the other side of the world because Stlvania is going to be in eternal war.

>>143961672
>>143961835

What exactly is funny here? The graphics quality? Or Radious?

>>143962062
Radious

>>143959683
Then play on a higher difficulty faggot. I highly doubt you can just crank out legendary campaign wins. If you can I hope you didn't waste your life and can enroll at West Point.

The AI probably knew better than to keep an agreement with you, seeing as you can't stop sucking cock

>>143959158
aoe heal
poor attack
decently survivable
pew pew pew

I made a mine that says I get +6 unit experience to artillery, is that for arty that i recruit from anywhere or only that settlement?

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>win battle as vampire count
>gather legion after battle into one clump
>overcast invocation


This is great, will be more so once I have actual monsters that I can bring back to strength. Vampires may not be the most powerful faction but fuckit, theyre fun

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>>143961950
s-sorry

>>143961480
Just WAAAGH!!! everything and play GRIMGOR

>>143962263
Only that province, I believe.

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Mannfred is not done yet, I'll wait and corrupt and when the remaining empires finally go to war I'll return from the forest and raise their dead.

>>143959175
git gud

>>143962278

Invocation is so weak I don't see the point. I've been spamming it my entire play-through and not once seen it have a noticeable effect,

>>143959506
>The strigoi got assfucked in the ye olde vampire war. With the loss of their empire/clan theyve reverted into bestial shapes(but not full blown varghulf) and run around the woods fucking shit up for everybody. The ghouls apparently feel a kindred spirit in them because they tend to flock to strigoi more so than other vampires.
>Strigoi are particularly hated by other vampires for two reasons

Are there named Strigoi? What are the chances of getting one as the 3rd LL?

>>143959234
surprisingly, japanese samurai were all backstabbing traitors and japanese ninja were all 100% honorable and devoted

>>143962289
confed that shit anon

Who is gonna be the 3rd empire LL? Valten?

>>143962402
>What are the chances of getting one as the 3rd LL?

None. Sorry. The chances of getting anything but well-known LL's for any faction are incredibly low.

>>143960540
literally still better than bretonnia

Starting to think I should replace my artillery with more tanks/demigryphs

>>143961000
How do you have 4 grudge throwers in a unit?

>>143962393
I used it on a previous campaign mostly for bringing back monsters like crypt horrors and vargheists during the rout phase. A nice little way to help the replenishment, if you didn't burn all your winds sniping off enemy heroes

>>143960042
like the dialogue box for it says, the lack of dark magyyks saturating the land makes it harder for necromancers to keep the bindings on the undead

>>143962568
Ultra unit sizes.

>>143962568

Artillery scales with unit size

>>143962518
You should always keep artillery in your army for sieges unless you like auto resolving.

>>143962325
'Tis the Von Carstein way.

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>>143962402
There are but not very important ones. None were given a statblock or had an reoccurrence

Not very likely id imagine. The third one id imagine is abhorash(founder of the bloodknights) or vlad (father of the von carsteins)

>>143961478
Don't worry anon, Mark of Chaos gets fucked by Windows 10 anyway

>>143962645
>but not hellcannons

suffering.

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What the FUCK is this shit. I have tried like 8 turns in a row with 31% chance. PLEASE STOP

>>143962431
Volkmar the Grim?
Kurt Helborg?
Ludwig Schwarzhelm?

I can't really see Valten as a LL though

>>143961489
yeah, great weapon chaos warriors don't hold their own as well as i feel like they should. even with great weapons.

have you had much success with chaos in gold-even battles? if so tell me about them, every time i think i start getting a handle on chaos, i just get my asshole torn inside-out. i just like them aesthetically so i'm trying to make them work

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anons really, really tried to make a diverse army in my orc campaign... but the most effective thing is to go full stack of black orks + some artillery and maybe wolfs... this is sad

>>143962681
>or vlad (father of the von carsteins)
Please no. I'd take Konrad over Vlad but I'd rather it not be a von Carstein at all.

>>143961897
Only confederate if you know you can defend their lands immediately. Most of the times, if they are willing to confederate, it means that they are in big shit.

In my previous campaign i confederated with Dwarf clan that held almost all of the south, but was separated from me by a couple of provinces. By merging with them, not only my economy went into shitter, but i realized that almost all of their settlements are under siege and there is nothing i can do to hold them. My book of grudges filled with so many grudges so i had to restart my campaign.

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>>143962884
Pre-battle speech: [incoherent howling]

>raze a norscan province
>RUNEFANG

Wonder whos Runefang they stole

>>143962660
Man, I fucking wish I had artillery

>>143962795
Volkmar would make sense if they're planning on releasing flagellants, since they'd be one of his bonus units what with being head of the Sigmarite Church.

Helborg or Schwarzhelm would be cool, but not particularly LL-tier. I really, really want them to bring in unique heroes just so we can get those guys.

>>143962972
>DANZ MACABRAA *screaming*

>>143962867
I mean if you can economically support it, sure. Should squeeze a few arachnaroks in though.

Past that, savage orcs are the greenskins saving grace.

>>143962990
I bet Nordland. Fucking shitter count can't defend to save his life.

>>143962990
Nordlands.

>>143962483
That's a shame. I would've liked monstrous LL for vamps. He would buff his ghouls and Crypt Horrors, and would start with 1 Crypt Horror unit. Not only that, he would be purely physical damage dealer, following the theme of each faction having 1 mage, 1 hybrid, and 1 warrior.

finally removed Dwarfs as orc in a +40 minute 40 vs 40 assault.

Shit was epic, a lot of helm's deep feelings


one questions, as ork what should I do once chaos shows up? ally with humies and go to kill archaon?

>>143963229
If you are Grimgor, you are honour bound by all that is green and stompy to fuck Archaon. Fuck him so bad he cries.

>>143963125
>>143963138
Its a shame Karl cant go full retard and duel wield Runefangs

SUMMON THE KEK COUNTS

>greenlivesmatter

>>143963229
black orc his ass with grimgor and friends. sneak in a giant or two imho, and just overwhelm him with multiple battles if need-be. if you kill archaeon by yourself that means more fighting all around.

>>143963229
>defending lands you can't occupy

Let Archaon krump all the humies he wants to, and use the chaos to run in and do MORE SACKING of your own.

If he tries anything near you though, shit into his throat.

>>143963332
This.

Gt in there, have a mighty good krumpin, bash his fucking head in, and proclaim you're the best.

>>143963381
*Unseathes dual runefangs*
And now it begins.
*Teleports behind archaon and stabs him*

>>143963332
>>143963540
If youre feeling particularly lore inspired, use a headbutt

>>143963381
I think techinally he has access to 3 runefangs (Riekland runefang+two from defunct provinces), so he could totally do that one stance that the sword dude from One Piece does.

>>143963612
Just tape the two spares to Deathclaws claws

Where do I go after Sylvania? Averland? What's the general plan here for maxed gains in the early game

>>143963612
>Karl Franz riding into battle with two runefangs on his hand and one in his teeth.
>Deatchlaw refuses to land because of embarrasment.

>>143963559
*Looks up from under crown*
"Does a Warhammer lie at the end of the road of the darkness?"
*Flips out cape, revealing a runefang*
"Yo white boy I said gimme da End of Times, dis ain't Averland"
"What this place is will no longer matter soon enough..."
*Begins to slowly raise runefang*
"For you will soon be in Hell, oh foolish primate."
*Prepares to perform the Suteki no Morenatsu slash*
"Cracka the fuck you doin', Imma fuck you up if-"
*In a flash of black light, teleport behind him, cape blowing in the wind*
*I tip my crown and my eye glistens, and the black separates into thirteen pieces and showers the area with blood*
"You too..."
*Wanders off*

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>Night Goblin Spearmen
>Forest Goblin Archers

Thanks Radious

>>143963718
>End Times: Archaon in a nutshell

>Empire can give demigryphs and tanks 15% ward save
jesus christ

How do I summon the elector counts?

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>it's a chase their last army across the world episode

>>143963734
>Black Arrer Orcs

And i thought for a second that i should give Radious a chance

>taking the province to your immediate north as dawi

Fuck me, I'm drowning in Gold. Game certainly wasn't lying about them being the economic powerhouse of the game.

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>>143963916
>black orc archers

Get the fuck out, no way

>>143963559
DABID

>>143963915
come on man, he's not worth your time, come on let's go pillage the human settlements that dwarf isn't worth it.. forget about him dude

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Those last 6 hours made me want to cut my own throat, running around grabbing every Dwarf settlement, but that felt pretty good overall. Now onto Empire.

>>143958482
Rollin

>>143963894
Be the military ruler of all Japan

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Furgil Ol'frowner you handsome bastard

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>>143963047
>AIAIAIAIAI *female vampire screaming*
>Kemmler pulls out his guitar
>He starts playing intense tango music
>Female vampire starts clapping castanets
>Skeltals and zombies start dancing
>Franz arrives on his griphon with a rose in his mouth
>Mannfred throws him a glance
>Franz gives Mannfred the rose and bids him to dance
>Balthasar Gelt starts singing in his deep mysterious voice
>They dance as no mortals, or imortals, have ever danced before all 'til dawn
>Franz

>Archaon hasnt even arrived
>Kislev, Ostermark, Ostland all fallen
>Dwarves have fallen and Orcs are pouring through

Fug

>>143963734
>he's still only adding units for orcs
Fucking pathetic. He might as well just make them insta-win on turn 1

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>>143938869

Someone requested a smug archaon?

Debating on whether to buy warhammer or not.

Is it worth it /twg/? I've been burned by CA before, buying soon after release

Is it Rome2 bad and I should wait or have they finally learnt not to release a buggy mess?

Also is Attila worth $11?

Does the blacksmith recruitment bonus stack?

>>143964387
Welp, so much for my plan of razing Norsca to the ground before Archaon arrives, Chaos is already right outside Altdorf

>>143962884
Why specifically Vlad?

>>143964676
yes its shit, attila is shit, videogames are shit, life is shit, CA is shit now sod off

>>143962884
I think its pretty obvious it'll be Konrad, there's a quote that comes up which is something like 'sorry to disappoint you but I appear to be alive' and he'd be a melee expert. After that maybe Walach Harkon but CA should have Mousillon as an alternate start position. Bretonnia and Vamps just go well together.

>>143964757
Wew lad

>>143962152
And have a more difficult time sludging through awful gameplay mechanics?

Noty. Enjoy your shit franchise, nerd.

>>143964676
I have already put in more than 70 hours, and that shit has only been out for a week. I definitely think it's worth it, but you're going to have to make your own decision.

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>>143963559
>NOOO, NAOITENDZ TIMES™ THE SIEGE OF ALTDORF™

>>143964676
Yep game is terrible anon, better not buy it. After all CA are the ultrajews amirite? ;)

So whats the counter to marauder horsemen?

>>143964676

>Is it Rome2 bad

It's not bad at all.

You can debate whether or not some of the decisions they made about the design were good or nor, but Rome II was actually fundamentally BROKEN at launch and Warhammer works more or less perfectly on the technical level.

The situation literally has NOTHING in common with Rome II.

>Also is Attila worth $11?

Yes, Attila is pretty good.

>>143964676

Attila is definitely worth at 11 bucks

So far Warhammer is pretty damn good. A bit shallow in depth but in terms of releases this is one of CAs best as the only really bad bug has been Magic having no scaling on unit sizes and some big units like the luminark of hysh sucking ass.

compared to fucking Rome 2 and Empires release this is a miracle.

>>143964989
Literally anything

>>143964805
That would go even better with Vlad though.There are some pretty hefty hints in the novels that Mannfred caused Vlad's death in the first place, by manipulating the Empire to steal the ring that made Vlad return from the dead again and again.

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All hail Emperor Mannfred von Carstein.

Just occupied Altdorf as Vampire Counts, wasn't there supposed to be some cinematic for when taking over it as VC?

>>143965049
what about krell bro?

Is today the last day to get free chaos? Or was it yesterday?

>>143964676

The general consensus is that it's surprisingly good, and most everyone is happy with it.

There's some balance issues but that's to be expected, and it's nothing mods can't handle. Multiplayer is a bit of a mess right now but the campaign is great.

Don't pick vampire cunts on a high difficulty until you really know what you're doing.

Get it from gmg so you can get the 20% off.

>>143964915
>>143965021
>>143965026
>>143965208

Thanks lads. Looks like I'll be sinking some hours into both these

I don't really know anything about the Warhammer universe/lore but the game looked too damn intriguing

>>143965150
Could be Krell too, but it seems unthematic for him to not go with Kemmler.

>>143965150
I don't see how a VC army could work with no caster. Even Konrad and Walach would know the lore of Vampires.

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Why is this so stupid. If I start absolutely destroying someone, then I should be able to offer them peace on the condition they become a Vassal. If I have to just wipe them off the map that just sucks...

>>143965397

Isn't konrad magically retarded, and had to rely entirely on necromancers to do his magic for him?

>>143965562
This.

>>143963954
check it by yourself friendo :^)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?731465-WARHAMMER-Radious-Total-Units-Mod-(Released-31-5-2016)

>>143965453
A human kneeling to a dwarf? Outrageous!

>>143958502
Just like in regular warhammer

>>143965765
>open youtube to check on something
>look at suggestions
>reiksguard handgunners vs zombies

>>143965453
Border princes confirmed floppy hat tippers.

>>143963612
Just Solland and Reikland, though Solland is used by Kurt Helborg. The Reikland one is kept in the treasury.

Any tips on gitting gud at total war in general? Or any good youtube tutorials?

Playing through Attila before I think about getting WH, I'm a bit shit though

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>/civ4xg/ overtaken by scifi fags
>/twg/ overtaken by fantasy fags
>/his/fags BTFO on every front
this pleases me, you deserve all of it, you pseudo-intellectual shits

Im not well versed in warhammer fantasy lore, and I can tell the black arrow orcs are a dumb idea. But why is it so hated?

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>barely fend of a full orks stack
>their general is nearly unkillable and I had to focus him with the whole army to get him down
>they follow up with another stack
Dwarf campaign is bullshit.

>>143966186
I wouldn't really call the civ players hisfags though, they are usually pretty chill. And they already had quite a number of fantasy and scifi games before stellaris came out anyway.

>>143966186
Gas the /his/fags when?

Also post /his/fag salt.

>>143966212
because it's a dumb fuckin' idea from a shitlord that produces nothing but equally if not more retarded ideas and yet the masses eat his shit up like it's fucking cotton candy

>>143966186
>trying to stir up shit again

I'd love to say we are wis to your tricks, shlomo, but I was already proven wrong it seems.

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>>143963894
dance the dance of his people

Don't dwarves know how 'un profesnal beards are

>>143963975
Only a stuntie would say that

>>143966212
It's not an Orcish thing to do, Orcs have no respect for ranged warfare, and orc archers are as unrespected as goblins

Black Orcs are the biggest, baddest Orcs, bred by slavers and they only live for fighting, fully armored and their presence is enough for the Boyz to stop infighting and focus on the enemy (a fucking big acomplishment), that's how respected they are

you can see how it doesn't fit

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>autoresolve a full health stack vs. rebels
>this happens

I think I shit a little.

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>>143966273
>

(desu I got rekt last time i played this campaign but this time I went full zerg on the south and thankfully all the dwarves down there survived)

>>143966462
better load up that save

>>143965150
Krell should be Legendary amped up Wight king imo, so he could roll with his pal ol Kem

>>143966490
Yeah I should just bumrush the Orcs after uniting my own region.
I also think I'm simply building too much quarrelers.

so lads how many unique siege cities are there?, I'm autoresolving the sieges that look minor and just want to know what not to miss.

I think prague was a special settlement

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FUCKING WHEN?

>>143959506
I fucking love Sylvania.

>>143966783
I think you can see the 'unique' sieges by looking at the siege custom maps.

>>143966462
rip bubbles

>>143966809

tomorrow

>>143966462
>Zombie dragon
>Lvl 11
What?

>>143966809
So 3 new heroes for the Empire, huh? I gues they'll add all remaining battle wizards, otherwise they are pretty much covered.

>>143966809
>implying this FLC plan is not for the entire trilogy
you don't think we will get free shit after every expansion, right? Gotta wait couple of years for that.

>>143966867
Ive been trying to, is there a special map name? after the 20th empire town its hard to tell whats different anon

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>>143965324

>>143966074
you have to ask more specific questions if you want advice

Is TT:WH as shitty as it looks ?

>>143966985
Tabletop Warhammer? Or Total War Warhammer?

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>>143966935
If not Arch fanboys will complain and we'll get free stuff or something like the free chaos week

>>143966558
>>143966876
he lived, he just autoresolved down to 1 fucking hit point. autoresolve is so dumb about priority.

>>143966913
mod that lets legendary lords invest in their mounts from level 2. well, four mods.

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I'm surprised I won.

>>143967016
yeah yeah, TW:WH

From all the reviews I could find it's just a sub TW for casual and fanboys

>>143967126
In some parts it's easier (empire managmenet), in some parts harder (battles).
It looks really good, it's optimized, if you're into Warhammer or fantasy in general and like TW then it's a great game!
Already having more fun than with any other TW before maybe Shogun 2 is on par

>>143966985
>>143967126
What kind of shitty blog posts do you read? It has 8+ everywhere.

>>143967249
>in some parts harder (battles).

no formations
no special abilities
unit hitting air
deadly accurate archers/artillery
free malus if outnumbered
only one siege map

Seriously it looks like shit

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Guess I can't do the quest then...

>>143967394

Or you could just raid one of your own provinces until they rebel, then assassinate their Warboss.

>>143967394
If it doesn't immediately auto-complete, it means there's still a Greenskin character somewhere on the map.

Best go find him.

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Man I thought you guys were kidding when you said that everyone would love you after the first Chaos invasion.

>>143967126
you clearly have made up your mind, so why the fuck are you asking?

>>143967394
just let some village rebel and assassinate their leader

>>143967360
>8+ everywhere

Implying they are not paid to publish shit. Steam reviews:
7000+ mostly from "hey I'm totally new at TW and it's so fun !"
2300- mostly from " I've played TW for decades"

>>143967392
>it looks like but I didn't play it
back to Total War Center with you

>>143967081
Dafuq?

Did you actually cap one of those victory points or how did you manage to defeat undeads without wiping them out completely?

I'm getting real sick of chasing Chaos around Kislev

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>>143967494
Now Norsca will know the terror of multiple doomstacks razing their lands.

>>143967495
Nope. I've came to ask if it's as shitty as it seems. I'll try my luck after the 3d Blood and Gore DLC

>>143967517
>anyone who likes it is new
>anyone who doesn't is a veteran

Yeah nah.

Is there a mod that removes the chaos invasion yet?

It was cool the first couple of times, but I don't want every single campaign to boil down to fighting chaos.

>>143967569
is any of these point wrong ? they look like big no-no

>>143967712
Theres the delay chaos mod

This is probably a longshot to ask here, but does anyone have any idea if there's a solution to this multiplayer bug? Me and my buddy are trying to play a multiplayer campaign. Whenever he starts a battle, it works fine. Whenever I do, it leads to lost connection and we're booted to the main menu.

Finally beat motherfucking chaos. Chaos corruption is now gone.

They don't come back anymore, right?

>>143967682
>"mostly"

Sorry I didn't read 7000 reviews to count

>>143967810
Safe to say you didn't read any, and just come to shitpost.

>>143967780
nah, and how do you eliminate chaos? I did on my Greenskin campaign after killing the Evercucked and his friends for the third time. I guess there has to be no more of there units on the field?

>>143967634
No, you came to pontificate at us because you apparently have nobody else to vent to, you insincere twat.

>>143967517
oh so you missed the lauch I see...2000 of those 2300 are literally "I'm too dumb to read system requirements/update my drivers so I'm going to jump onto bandwaggon and blame CA instead" complaints. I'm not even kidding.

>>143967585

I'm the Undead.

>>143967768
There's no solution but generally its a problem with the hosts connection and the servers. I don't understand how CA can STILL have this problem after Attila, Rome II and now this. They really are so incompetent and for some reason don't give a fuck about multiplayer when its a feature most new players want over the autistic campaigns

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When will manlets learn?

>>143968000
Why bank that much money?

>>143968032
Saving it for the recolonization effort

>>143967963
So it could just be because I'm in an apartment complex and fuck me, right? Guh. That sucks. Well, thanks for the answer, mate.

>>143967841
>muh game !

I did

I'm sure the third LL for the Empire will be either Volkmar or Luthor Huss (probably in DLC pack with Altar of Sigmar, flagellants and unit of warrior priests), but I'd like to see Markus Wulfhart. Purely ranged LL without magic could be interesting.

>>143967902
as expected of historyfags I guess

>>143968172
Atleast put some effort into it, Anon, you ain't fooling noone

>>143962278
I really want raising dead after battles to be extremely cheap or quite literally free

after every battle I want to be able to steamroll as more and more of my foe's corpses get added to my horde of undead

instead dark magic just an abstraction of money and raising dead basically raising better mercs

>>143968098
Yeah I have similar problems from a uni connection. Don't expect a patch either, Rome II and Attila still don't work.

>>143967392
>no formations
What kind of formations you're talking about?
>no special abilities
What is magic? What is all the special abilities of lords/heroes?
>unit hitting air
That's because fags disliked the 1 on 1 animations
>deadly accurate archers/artillery
Seems like my archers/artillery didn't get the message, artillery is fucking inaccurate
>free malus if outnumbered
As in? The leadership malus? We're 100 guys against 2000, can't wait for the battle :^)
>only one siege map
Did you actually ever play this game?

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Did this just to get back at the fuckers WAAAGH!!!

>>143968347
or, hear me out, they could, bear with me, they could have more than one fucking resource per faction: vamps could have both regular gold for building and shit and some dark magic resource that is used exclusively for raising dead bastards, the resource could depend on the level of your necromancers, vamp corruption and maybe some unique building or two

>>143968550
too much like work

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made me lel

>>143968550
more than one!? but brain hurty no likey! too hard to spend money on game of think, keep accessible for the lowest common denominator so the greatest possible profit can be made!

>>143968504
(not the same dude)
>What kind of formations you're talking about?
Loose formation, shieldwall formation, spearpoint formation for cavalry
>What is magic? What is all the special abilities of lords/heroes?
Magic is mostly useless and poorly implemented, the special abilities do nothing but make Herohammer worse, fire arrows/encourage/warcries gave you something to handle in the middle of battle and was an extra layer of variety between similar units
>That's because fags disliked the 1 on 1 animations
1 on 1 animations had a single positive point, they look impressive, just the same thing that hero combat needs, let rank&file swipe air, but you can't promote Herohammer while making hero-to-hero combat shit to watch

>>143968621
Shame that dragon/daemon slayers weren't a hero you could recruit. They'd make great assassins and when they died you'd be happy about it.

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How do you build your dwarf leaders?

Whats more OP, all demigryphs or all tanks

>>143968971
I always go for lightning strike as fast as possible.

>>143964898
What's wrong? Upset that you got called out for being a lil bitch? Cry more dude

>>143969068
But all the other bonuses in that tree are useless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHz0toWnKzE
even based Arch recognizes qualities of Radious, why can't you?

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>play dwarf
>nothing but fucking giant ork stacks
>finally fend them off
>decide to try out ork
>nothing but massive dwarf stacks
>their LL is impossibly high level
>can't possibly even have fought so much to be level 8 - 10 at that point
>kill him off
>2 more dwarf stacks with silver-rank units show up from nowhere

Seriously, is this the game's idea of challenge? Just throw doomstacks at early turns? Getting pretty tired of this, to be honest.

>>143958482
let's check

>>143969182
Rout marcher is amazing and you'll get laughed at if you don't get it, investing into Pure-Beard is not that bad, Iron-willed is trash but you only need a single point into lighting strike

>>143968850
Heroes have 1 on 1 animations, only AoE spells are shit, fire arrows and other abilities were hated as "magic" by the TW community at large and most formations were set and forget. Your only real point is loose formation.

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>Let this smug bitch recruit for one turn
>he raises 3 grave guard, a black knight and 3 crypt horrors

I mean I guess for a necromancer its plausible, but I still want a proper rebellions mod. I'm the fucking count of sylvania with a gang of loyal necromancers and vampires, this is one autist who doesn't have anything but the staff in his hand.


>>143969182
>he isn't a true understander

in any total war game, the first skill you beeline is night battles.

the second is anything that increases campaign movement range.

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Oh fucking great just when i decided to build the port over the high walls.

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>>143969290
/twg/ has really done a roundabout as far as arch is concerned.

>>143969420
>Heroes have 1 on 1 animations
anywhere I can see? I have yet to see heroes doing anything but smashing the ground in the other hero's general direction

>>143969310
>still hasn't learned that Total War games are fair only on Normal and anything above is artifical difficulty with larger health pools and bigger stacks

>>143969290
He's more autistic than Legend of total war and has a worse forced accent than Total Biscuit. 1/10

He's also really shit at the game

>>143969543
No it really hasn't.

>>143969543
He was mostly hated before and is now even more hated.

>>143969068
Why would you ever go Lightning strike?

The skill tree is literally based around good and bad abilities

>>143965061
'Tis land of Empire will be Forevermore Night.

>>143969664
because enemy reinforcments always fuck up your battles

>tfw 19 steam tanks all firing volley after volley into Kholek

>>143969664
>Why would you ever go Lightning strike?
Are you fighting 2-4 stacks at once with only one army?

I cant finish a campaign help its boring as soon as i get too strong

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>>143969727
>only twelve ever built
>CA: 'we want a game that reflects the lore'

kek.

>>143969709
>it is land of empire will be forevermore night

grammar?

I wanted to like empire but their units are all shit until you unlock the OP ones.

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>>143958667


>the great chaos storm is here!
>Bretonnia, dorfs and the remaining empire counts all ally with me and send fat stacks up north
>just sitting here twiddling my thumb in Reikland building up
>Chaos gets wiped out 15 turns later
>GG


welp, not exactly the big crisis like it was in CoW,

>>143969785
Then don't finish one and start new, who cares for finished campaigns anyway?

>>143969664
>Why would you ever go Lightning strike?
because battles with reinforcements are bugged and the enemy reinforcing army appears behind your back, which can be a good thing if you are fighting someone with infantry based armies, but is a nightmare against norskan scum since their cav and chariot forces quickly reach you from both ends and you get sandwiched

>>143969786
>Archaon can be beaten ingame and End Times never happens
>CA: we want a game that reflects the lore

>>143969820
But it's fun fighting monsters, demons and undead with normal shitty humans

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Oh no, Mannfred has become Jewish.

>>143958482
Will laugh if someone had 69 roll.

>>143969839
well what did you expect? Chaos only has 4-5 stacks and usually achieves very little compared to norscan tribes even. There's a reason the Warriors campaign is hard.

>>143969902
>based on 8th edition
>mad because it ignores the bullshit that GW pulled after the targeted time period

>>143969760
Often, yes. How bad are you? Also how hard would it be for you to march your 2nd army up the ass of your 1st army for reinforcement?

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>>143969942

This guy gets it