Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Ded game.

>>143956052
I am a moron

I'm going with this build. What does /tosg/ think?


http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/s4rm3hjeuq/

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Something something cute!

>cookie cutter builds is the first piece of info
Well, this is certainly RO's child.
Still waiting on servers to get re-opened.

>>143956159
Looks thick, solid, and tight. Go for it.

I want to hold hands with a cute chronomancer!

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>>143956159

> turn undead

why does no one take this

Two more hours!

Are you ready for:

>no more insane ping
>no more 2 fps
>FREE TP points
>you can now trasnfer those EXP tomes for new character leveling!

>>143956019
>Cookie paste still full of featherfoot meme

Feather is not a cookie.

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Who wants to kiss!

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>>143956169
Cute!

>>143956182
It's better than having multiple "fix my build" post with the reply being kill yourself or reroll.

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>>143956272
>no more 2 fps

Yay 5 fps!

>>143956159
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/s4rm3hjeuq/
I can only comment on the support side: point all points from deprotected zone and some points from cure into safety zone

>>143956272


>implying they don't fuck it up somehow

attention A U S T R A L I A N S

what is your average ping to the SEA servers?

>>143956249
I actually have 5 points in it, and made multiple turn undead level 1 scroll with my pardoner.

I have fun instant killing mobs in dungeon when the dps is struggling at chipping their hp away.

>>143956272
>free tp points
but the compensation will be in one more week, anon

>>143956272
>The new reduced Token prices will come into effect after our weekly maintenance on Tuesday, June 7, 2016.

I'm considering rerolling my Musk since I took Archer 3. Rank 8 when? I need that Scout circle.

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I'm in the process of creating a new effective build that hasn't been tried out yet.

This is what I got:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aahg.19213f6a7585.1a3a4565.153545.14253145

What do you think? Have I blown your mind yet? Imagine how futureproof this build is too. You KNOW that Featherfoot is likely going to be getting some serious love in rank 8/C2. They're not going to let Warlock be the only game in town, folks.

The build is a very strong support thanks to C2 Thauma, but where it really starts to shine is how amazeballs its damage output is once it's Rank 7. That is VERY unique among support builds. They usually have absolute shit for damage output. Having those Quick Casted rune spells on top of the Featherfoot arsenal though? That's basically like having 2 rank 7 jobs at once. It's like being both a Musketeer AND a Cannoneer at once. Runecaster CDs are long but extremely powerful skills, which allows me to go full Featherfoot onslaught inbetween those long CDs.

I know this build is unconventional, and I know it will likely bring some mocking from people who only follow cookie cutter builds and don't have the imagination or vision to see the new possibilities out there. But guess how cookie cutter builds get made? Do they just materialize out of the aether? No, they're built from theorycrafting. Someone sees the potential, does it, and then reaps the rewards.

Once the servers come back up, I'm starting this character. I'm going to be that person.

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HL3 or barbar3 for fencer?

>>143956364
Monk hand-knife and deprotected zone = massive aoe is why he has points in it.

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>>143956301
>>143956028
>>143933715
>meowly cattly
>icon shows squire
>in-game screenies show oracle outfit
I hereby formallly declare shenanigans. I feel sad if the actual anon who fell for this poser actually exists.

>tfw wanting to be friends with /tosg/
>know I'm going to be bullied for choosing certain classes since I picked what I liked, not what is 'op' or 'meta'

I think I want to bake some cookies or some other kind of sweets might be okay for wizard. No elementalist flavored cookies though as I am allergic to those. Any suggestions on what to bake that can be done without adult supervision?

>>143956536
It's been done before. There's also a wiz3 thaum3 rune variant. No idea if it's any good.

>>143956603
don't worry there will be rebirth at level 300

>>143956405
The in-game ping command is unreliable as fuck, but about 150-200ish

>>143956603
I'll be your friend anon.

I don't care about whats good.

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Alright, which NPC have the biggest anime tiddies?

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>>143956205
>>143956364
>>143956249
>The one time /tosg/ approves of your build
Thanks, fampai

>>143956587
Is it dead?

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Post the terrible game you are playing while waiting for a terrible game to come back from maintenance.

orshafag coming to klai tonight here

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1svht2uran/

realize its just a modified cookie cutter, but would like to ask about stats... 2:1 str dex? or just heavy dex? except the dabble in con obv wat do?

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She's in danger!!

>>143956785
currently playing real life

>>143956761
no, just the way it sleeps

>>143956639
Wait, someone has done a Thauma/Runecaster/Featherfoot build?

Because you can't just not have Featherfoot in the build. That dramatically weakens it and it won't even play the same. The whole point of the build is to have simultaneous access to both the Rune and Feather arsenals (and to be honest, C3 Thauma is a bit of a joke, C2 is all you really should get).

>>143956847
>danger
>from bokor zombies

>>143956710
Orsha storage

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>>143956412

actually got accused of hacking when i hit a linked group with it

if it procs on one the full kill damage gets spread across the link

Which classes would /tosg/ suggest for a fun tanky dps?
I'll be playing with a couple friends and one will most likely play cleric

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>>143956710
Boss knows how to run things.

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STOP GOING WIZARD 2/3 AND THAUM 2/3

>>143956587
The oracle was from icbt2, I believe.
He went swordsman in ktos because he was going to make a templar, but he never made it.

>>143956912
Don't bully the zombies!

>>143956903
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/builds/?name=&class=Thaumaturge&order=Likes&search=search

Literally most popular Thaum build on ToSbase. Though I've only seen 3 people using it in the game at r7.

>>143957058
people go wiz 3 is rune caster or Elementalist is in the build. that means if a thauma build is ending in rune caster, then you're going to go wiz 3 for quick cast.

no one should ever go wiz 2 for any reason whatsoever. you either stay at 1 or go 3. and you only go 3 if you have either a) elementalist or b) rune caster in your build

>>143957065
This is correct. I posted my squire in the other thread as well, my KToS character.

>>143956968
The interaction is buggy though, sometimes it works and sometimes it don't.

I wonder if we actually just got lucky and destroyed everything.

>>143957203

this is true, but that chance is worth the 2 pts out of restoration to me, buggy or not

>>143957040
I'm more concerned about those hips because they're fucking WIDE.

>>143957168
That isn't my build. That's just Wiz3/Thauma3/Runecaster.

My build is Wiz3/Thauma2/Runecaster/Featherfoot.

That might seem insignificant to you, but it's a gigantic difference in terms of damage output and flexibility.

>>143957269

> the way the knees are bent

think she's just throwing her butt out to the one side, anon, this lady has the caboose of champions.

>>143957169
Wiz3Kino3 and Wiz1Cyro3Kino3 are both acceptable.

>>143956159
Amazing build.

Here's the best futureproof thaum build if we ever get ktos buffs
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122aa2a.15233552.1f355a657a.1f213a43516a75

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>be squire C3 with maxed out repair and maxed attributes
>charge the break-even point per unit for repairs
>no squires around me can make money anymore
>they either have to match me and break even or go lower and lose money on repairs
>keep getting angry tells from anally devastated squires

>>143957169
Wiz3Link1Sorc1Necro2

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Who is tosg's favorite tofu?

>>143957169

Thaum 2/3 is futureproof due to the insane magic buff so it fits in any build just as wiz3

>>143957193
>>143957065
I-I can still disprove this, y-you'll see!

>>143957507
>it fits in any build just as wiz3

no, people only go wiz3 for quick cast, so no wiz3 does not fits in any build. you are serious now?

the only reason you take wiz3 is you have class that has long casting time like elementalist or rune caster. why you would ever put wiz3 in any other build? for fucking magic missiles?

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Does /tosg/ play any other MMOs?

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>>143957617
Try "doing it" with him!

It's the only way to be sure!

>>143957638
EVE

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>>143957490

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>>143957638

I'm trying to play Cards Against Humanity with my guildmates while the server is down. Problem is, it seems they are dead as well while the servers are out.

>>143957507
>future proof
>lv600 we'll have weapons that give 8026matk

FUTURE PROOF.

>>143957628

>people only go wiz3 for quick cast

And the 50% magic damage

> why you would ever put wiz3 in any other build? for fucking magic missiles?

It'll buff your rank 8, 9, 10 and 11+ magic classes while your rank 1-7 would be useless for lvl400 content.

>>143957470
>Anvilfags refuse to price competetively
>They bitch & moan that they can't compete with someone doing it profitless

Why are squires so retarded? They desrve to be bullied almost as hard as alchemists.

>>143956249
>running dungeons with another Paladin
>Turn Undead everywhere
>other party members confused as fuck
I love it.

>>143957490
I like mapu tofu

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>>143957654
What is "it"?

>>143957770
>gimping yourself in the present so that you can try to futureproof for possible lvl400 content in the future

and this is why this generals are full of fucking retards.

>>143957617
If you'd like, you can also just add me on Steam. It's still the same one I posted in the old threads.
>>143957638
I'm kinda considering resubbing to XIV, but 3.0 killed crafting and Alexander is such a horrible, boring raid. All that coupled with new content coming slower due to running out of 1.0 content to rehash makes me think twice.
>>143957654
Do what? And how will that prove what?

>>143957790

really might just go pld again instead of a musketeer. i really do love the class.

question is, do i go kriv2 again or priest2 like a normal person?

is there a shortage of daino on klai?

>>143957628
>Attribute applies to fucking everything
>Somehow doesn't fit in any build

okay

>>143957270
>gigantic difference in terms of damage output and flexibility

>damage output
>runecaster damage is bad because of 8 year long cooldowns
>featherfoot damage is bad without linker and literally does nothing against 2/5 monster types

Not seeing it anon.

>>143957870
>2016+7YearsOverwatch
>Not being Future-futureproof™™

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>>143957884
>adding a poser>>143957884

>>143957748

Tham 2 gives 600 magic damage, 3 gives you 1,100.

>>143957870

There's no "gimping" because you don't do anything but reach 280 in this game.

>>143957790
But 70s cd!

>>143957638
played runescape for a large majority of my life.
i consider those 9+ years completely wasted

>>143957918
okay so it fits into any build? go ahead and let me see your great chrono build that has wiz3. how are you going to make that one work with all the shit you loose out on by going wiz3. are you serious?

>>143958015
I am just me, no one else, sorry.

>>143958065
wiz3 link1 chrono3 ez

>>143958065
Wiz3>Link1>Chrono3>R8 DPS class is future meta build

>>143958047
>Tham3 gives you 1,100 matk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu_4u2U-xtw

>>143958047
>There's no "gimping" because you don't do anything but reach 280 in this game.

certain builds are less effective than other at 280. this means your build gimped compared to it. you are a clown shitposting now because bored while waiting for servers up, I know this game. I don't need explain such obvious things to someone.

>>143957886
No shortage of Daino scrolls but people don't really buy those. Go Krivis if you want but I don't recommend 2 circles of it.
The usual build is Cleric2 Diev Pally or Priest instead of Diev.

>>143958065
Waah waaah Wiz3 only fits to A and B, not C!
Retard grasping at straws, we're obviously talking about damage classes here and then you say Chrono which is a support class.

Quick cast is for the cast time and damage attribute. Period.

>>143958058
Really don't feel too long at all. It has overheat as well.
It was 100s in iCBT2 I heard, 70s is more manageable.

>>143956205
>>143956364
>>143957421
Why do you think he held on to the 10 points in Pally2 when he could dump the 10 points in Resist on that circle already considering he's planning to put 15 points on Resist in Pally3?

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>>143957862

>>143958246
you people say any build and we originally talked about thauma which is not normal in dmg build but support build look this guy I responded to here >>143957058 saying about wiz3 and thauma. so I says to him only for classes that have long casting like elementalist and rune caster it makes sense for wiz3 so no we are not talking about only offensive because every person keep saying ALL BUILDS GOOD IN ALL BUILDS to me, like this guy >>143957628 and this guy >>143957770 who both argue for any build so please learn to follow some attention.

>>143958190

>Used on an archer

>>143958228

Nothing is effective at 280 because you don't do anything in this game broski. If you go for ET, then you BUILD for ET, if you go for PvP then you BUILD for PvP. If you want to make sure that you DONT fuck up now for PvE then you futureproof yourself.

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>>143958386
Anon that is lewd!
NO LEWD ALLOWED!

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What's a good price to pay for awakening a 6* Red Equip? Paid 35 Talt for my Sissel and got junk , did I get ripped?

>>143958360
For conviction and barrier, which is your power spike from c3.

>>143956019
>Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
>http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H
Amazing high quality misinfo work.
I raise my glass to you.

>>143958386
I only wish to do those sorts of things with boys that I love deeply and care about with all my being.

>>143958494
>everything is same, nothing is more effective than anything just play any fucked up build you want

sorry I thought I was not on reddit, but I guess I somehow must have ended up there anyway by the sound of this

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111bbbf.1f213f415a6172.2d3f42556575.153545

1 Con to 3.5 Spirit ratio, neglecting EVERYTHING ELSE.
How fucked am I, its almost done.

>>143958638
Well yes that's why it's rape

>>143956159

>Max Cure on a Str build
>No Safety Zone
>Monk

Retard

Your Paladin skills are fine though

>>143958464
See
>>143958012
>>143958182
Good builds

>>143958649

>fucked up build

Enjoy being inferior to people that futureproof themselves. How is that Pyro/Cryo working out for you at rank7? Ayy

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>>143958541

About 12 talts or so. Oh wait that's guild alchemist price.

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>>143958578
Wow... this guy really thought out his builds properly. I'm so glad I get to share this with you guys

>>143958707
That's what made me curious anon. I'm actually thinking of shifting the skill pt distribution too.

>>143958696
That is not very kind.

>>143958749
>Enjoy being inferior to people that futureproof themselves

when? in 2024 when we might get the lvl400 content you dream about? if that happens, I will already have new characters for this purpose

>How is that Pyro/Cryo working out for you at rank7?

who plays this? I do elementalist, not pyro shit. this isn't ktos, pyro is garbage.

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Does the 'marketplace wait time' continue during maint?

>>143958812
That's the spirit

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>>143958749
working out pretty good :^)

>>143958872
Token duration goes down during maintenance so probably

>>143958864

>elementalist

No wonder you are triggered, my condolences.

>>143958904
I mean you should not, under any circumstances do those sorts of things or promote them.

>>143958912
>pyrocryo
Is that build any fun?
I'm considering my build options for a wiz alt

>>143959003
meanwhile I play builds that have capabilities, so I know why you are so eager to defend everyone playing "shit build" and "everything is same at 280, nothing is different, just play anything" argument.

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>>143959056
He casts fireballs and then snow rolling, and then he snow rollings his fireballs and it turns into a ball of DEATHU. I'm not sure how viable this is but it is hilarious.

I'm glad everyone stopped posting about cute boys.

>>143959113
Yeah man my Chronomancer at 280 can kill just as well as your Elementalist at 280.

>>143958864
People laughed at those who futureproofed themselves and tested wiz3 back in iCBT, it's funny how the others became sheep and wiz3 became mandatory if you want real damage output.

Future Proof Class List (Wizard)

Wiz 3, need that Magic Damage 50% if you don't have this I'll laugh at you.

Linker, linking will always be relevant no matter what level you are.

Thaum3, Magic Damage.. you always dream about getting an upgrade, right? Imagine having a free "upgrade" with a couple of buffs! It's like dual-wielding your favorite staff! (Or rod, if you're into that sort of thing)

Chrono, Haste.

Rune Caster, EVERYTHING about this class is FUTUREPROOF.

>>143959113

>I play builds that have capabilities

Those capabilities can get nerfed at any point in time and when they do your "capabilities" becomes as worthwhile as a Swordsman without Swashbuckling.

Talking about Swashbuckling, I'll do a swordy list later.

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>mfw top AB in my guild won't stop complimenting me on my Maestro play

I'm so bad with compliments

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When's the next big anime MMO so we can migrate for a better (e)RP experience?

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>>143959305
lets post cute girls instead

1 (one) more hour until the game is saved. 1 more hour until we can say goodbye to 2fpshoglan.jpg.

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>>143959470

>>143959442
>Rune Caster
>futureproof
are you high?

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>>143959470

>>143959442
>Quick cast is future proof
>Unless they nerf it

This patch will probably be huge since it's changing the way the renderer works. Let's hope they add more tweakable stuff to the game settings.

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>>143959510

>>143959305
Cattly is NOT cute, I repeat, NOT CUTE!

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Ok, with the recent Bloodletting nerfs, how is this as an alternative to PvP Arena builds. Keep in mind that you cannot use dispellers there so landing a One Inch Punch is pretty much death as is Kamehameha. Sadhu is there for Snap Asura nostalgia mobility so you can hit your One Punch attacks better. You also get a semi Land Protector and a mini Bloodletting by taking Oracle. Priest is there because ressing allies is OP.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/frbg0niyn9/

>>143959510
And we go from 2 fps to 5 fps
Sure it will make playing with big groups better :^)

>>143959567

Cryomancer and Elementalist will definitely wont be the only classes with Ice property damage. If at any point in time a class with Ice property damage is introduced, that 300% will do insane amount of damages. Rune of giants, 100% HP bruh and Rune of protection, resistances!

>>143959632

Even if they nerf Quick cast, it'll be relevant because no matter what they do to it. It'll raise your damages!

DAMAGES!

>>143959674
It won't be that huge at all

>>143959056
snowrolling eats fireball's ticks

>>143959827
Five FPS!
F-I-V-E
SINGKO
GO
LIMA
THAT'S HUUUUUGE

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>mfw thinking of 5 fps slumber parties

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>>143959942
2bh 5fps during GvG would be so good desu

>>143959984

>>143959984
On Orsha I always get over 60fps during a GvG.

>>143960040
Needs the FPS counter.

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>>143959470

>>143960064
>orsha
>gvg
What is that like 3v3?

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arena when?

>>143959942
>>143960040
5 FPS is still a slideshow
This patch won't make any real noticeable difference at all

>>143960239
Greetings Saviors,

We'll get 10 FPS next month.

Sincerely,
IMC Staff

What's the highest star for gems and has anyone managed to achieve it here yet? How many points do you need?

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>>143960239
It will!
I believe in Julie!

>>143960212
If even

>>143960529
Julie's dead m8, let her rest in peace.

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>>143960040

>>143959786
There's no guarantee we'll have a non-deployment ice dps class, so you are betting/gambling not futureproofing. The rest of the spells are rubbish. Dumb theoryshitter.

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>>143960494
Realistically right now would be Lv6, maybe a Lv7 if someone is an absolute madman. Almost everyone just stops at Lv5 because it's too much effort to go any further until we start getting gem abrasives.

>>143959708

Switch to Pardoner

Will they ever make the small monsters tamable and can be leveled?

>>143960696

>What is Sage

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>>143959786
>Cryomancer and Elementalist will definitely wont be the only classes with Ice property damage

Sure thing, retard.

rate my centurion build

>>143960826
there's still one wiz class missing

>>143959786
Elementalist already has more ice/water spells than other properties. It's like they got too many cryo skill ideas and dumped it to elementalist skill set.

1 electric, 2 fire, 1 earth non damage skill, 3 ice + 1 from rain which falls to ice category since the game doesn't have water in the element table.

>>143959442
>Rune Caster, EVERYTHING about this class is FUTUREPROOF.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

>>143960697
What's the highest Gem to have been leveled in Klai? I'm sure the Koreans had already managed to get the level 10 though, right?

>>143960826

Sage has always been an "All elements" type of class like Elementalist. I can assume that Taoist will probably have something Icy in their pantsu too.

Hey guys, I'm making a cryo/kino and was wondering if it's better to go Cryo3/Kino3 or Cryo2/Kino3/Cryo3?

>Mission run
>Two guys have huge level disadvantage
>Oh hey, another cleric, I don't need to worry about keeping up with heals, even if other players are shitty
>It's a monk, a fucking monk
>Never lays down heals once, not even for self
>Just uses mine for himself, other players be damned
>When the rest of us choose to lure bosses into other room (because again, 2 guys are at a huge disadvantage), the fucking monk refuses to stop engaging them in the hall
>Pretty much the most painful run in existence
>NO MONKS is a real thing

>Another dungeon run
>Get two guys from last time, one of them again has that level disadvantage
>I'm the only cleric
>Smoothest run imagineable
>Spend the minute after beating the boss talking about how godawful that monk was

>>143960826
Taoist is recently moved to Cleric tree.
Get fucked Wizcucks.

>>143960950
I don't know as I don't play on Kalipeda but I have a Lv6 gem on iToS. On kToS I know a couple of people with multiple Lv7 gems so I'm sure there's a few people with a Lv8 gem. Anything higher doesn't seem very realistic yet.

>>143961061
cryo kino3 cryo3

>>143960826
Runecaster outfit looks really nice. Too bad their skills are really lacking.

>>143961078
Source? Is there really hope for Onmyoji being moved too?

>>143960697
>that offhand crit rate bonus
What's the offhand equipment with the highest number of sockets? Is it only 1? Also, Gem Roasting is used to reduce the deductions right?

Can I prepatch already?

>>143961078
Legit?
Taoism is a religion anyway.

>>143959442
>Wiz 3, need that Magic Damage 50% if you don't have this I'll laugh at you.
>Those capabilities can get nerfed at any point in time and when they do your "capabilities" becomes as worthwhile as a Swordsman without Swashbuckling.

So.. his build which is good now is shit because at any point in the future it might be nerfed.. but your good build TM* is good because Magic Damage 50% cannot be nerfed somehow?

You can't seriously attack his cookie cutter build with "w-what if they nerf it!" and then turn around and claim all the shit you just argued for is golden and no one can touch it. If you're going to use the 'threat of nerfs' to handwave cookie-cutter builds away, then that same person can use the 'threat of nerfs' right back at you to handwave your "futureproof" builds away.

This is a never-ending cycle where each person just yells "YOU MIGHT GET NERFED" back and forth at each other. Want to know what the solution is? The solution is that you play builds that work right now. You play cookie-cutter builds because right now they are powerful right now and for the foreseeable future. No one can predict nerfs, and even your "futureproof" theorycrafting isn't immune to nerfs.

>>143958912
>>143959056
Its crap in pve, but in pvp he somehow managed to kill my guildmembers. Which I have no idea how because its so easy to walk away from tree. Maybe he wasnt alone and I cared not to find out. Guy himself is an underage spouting memes and other random bs redditor.

>>143961218
Just popped up for me, 0 bytes though

>>143961202
>>143961220
I heard about the game files for taoist being changed from wiz prefix to cleric.
Might be in the archive somewhere.

>>143961282
It's taking DL speed for me.

tfw better framerate to suffer through the lag.

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>>143959442
>runecaster is futureproof
>the class that will only get 1 circle ever
>the class whose attack values will always remain the same, static values forever
>even throughout ranks 8, 9, and 10 into the future

>>143961215
Yes Gem Roatsting is used to reduce the pentalies and will completely remove them based on the level of roasting. So a Lv5 roasted 5* will have all penalties removed but a Lv5 roasted 6* gem will still have a slight penalty. Currently you can only roast up to lv5 until rank 8 is released for C3 Alchemist. Probably can roast up to Lv6 with divine might but I haven't tested it.

>>143961202
I'm pretty sure Onmyojis shouldn't be classified as Wizards. Aren't they exorcists?

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>last few minutes of server up
>no warning is coming
>rush 8 dungeon runs as fast as I can solo
>get to final cube
>disappointed at no loot
>reroll with penniless character cos why not
>get this

Don't reroll cubes they said!
Especially if you're low on funds they said!
Don't waste money on them they said!

I've acquired:
>Catacomb Pike
>Magi Two Sword
>Catacomb Club
...and a lot of others by purely having multiple rank 7 characters but the thing is....

I've always gotten the rares drops BY REROLLING the cube. No joke. Placebo I'm sure but no joke. I also ran the 130 dungeon an entire week without rerolling and got over 300 talt and nothing else except one armband recipe.

I say fuck the no-reroll cube! I'm rerolling at least ONCE every day!

>>143961221
>A buff they gave to wizard 3 which also falls in line with the theme of taking the class to higher levels is in enormous danger of being rescinded

No.

Can I be like kirito in this game?

>>143961443
Correct. Onmyoji = Exorcists.

>>143961476
>my skills won't get nerfed, only yours will!! neener-neener!

>>143961453
How many times do you reroll it?

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>>143960758

>>143961568
CALL THE COPS

>>143961535
Pretty much, yeah.

Why don't you try trivializing it by putting "muh" at the beginning while you're at it?

>>143961568
>Thank you for your calling. The party van has been dispatched.

>>143961503
Onmyōji were specialists in magic and divination.
It could go either class trees.

>>143961453
>Don't reroll cubes they said!

Yeah, you still shouldn't. Because, statistically, it is not in your best interests to do so.

This is also why I tell people not to waste their money on lottery tickets. That's not to say that people don't actually win the lottery. But if you understand anything about probability theory, you should already know why it's a bad gamble.

I didn't really need to explain this, did I? Sometimes I wonder if the people here are as dumb as they often pretend to be.

>>143961221

>Magic Damage 50% cannot be nerfed somehow?

If say, they reduce it to 10% it'll still be more beneficial because 10% increase against a spell that does 20k damage, 50k or 100k damage will recieve a massive buff that will be hard to achieve otherwise.

>You can't seriously attack his cookie cutter build with "w-what if they nerf it!"

It's not a "What if" situation, people thought that Pyromancer was the shit back in CBT days and where do you think it is now? Pyromancer was strong because it worked for low level content and the same thing can be said with his cookie cutter build. It may work now but it will definitely wont work at high levels because another cookie cutter build will replace your current cookie cutter build.

>>143961398

Anything that buffs you via % is relevant.

How many points is it worth putting on Iron Hook and Dust Devil as Corsair 2? Pve focused.

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I have a good feeling about this patch. It will be fine.

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>>143961453
I'll never get that recipe

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>>143961945
Just keep rerolling goyim.

>>143961398
>lvl5: 50 seconds of +50% status ailment resistance for you and your party is irrelevant
/tosg/ in a nutshell

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>>143961552
3 cubes per character
3 characters
3 rerolls

Basically I always reroll the last cube once.

This means I open 4+4+4 times daily.

I have a new character coming up soon for more cube hunting.

>>143961769
Silver is reasonably easy to acquire. I have a warlock who can pretty easily gain over 1million silver in an hour of brainless farming.

If you account the fact that 3 runs worth of silver from a boss then if the reroll is below say 100k, it's always worth the reroll. At least once.

It's basically like running the dungeon 4 times a day for the price of 100k silver and 100k silver is an easy feat if you're not lazy about farming.

I think you're not getting that statistics don't matter when it's about gambling. If they did everyone would be a millionare by going to a casino and "betting the right amount to win".

It's gambling and I know that if I reroll 3 times a day on 3 characters it's like paying 180k for 3x cubes. It's not bad considering I can get a recipe like Mana-Mana that sells for 6000k.

>>143961945
You will! Today is the day!

I don't even have a Quarrel Shooter or archer character, but I'm considering in making one. Same happened with Club. I got the Club and literally started working on a Wizard class the next week.

>>143962009
Only once Clarion! FFS!

>people setting up shop at channel 1 only
>competing with others
>while there are channels 2 and 3 that are equally as packed as 1

>>143962057
Reroll all cubes all times.

>>143961453
And now that you expect to get something good from rerolling, the desire sensor will curse you to never get any rares ever again.
Ever.
Fuck you. I though you quit already.

When will amulets be implemented?

>>143961827
>It's not a "What if" situation, people thought that Pyromancer was the shit back in CBT days and where do you think it is now?

It's always a "what if" situation because, by its very definition, we don't really know. We don't know what nerfs, if any, are coming down the pipe. We can speculate about it, and we might even try to convince ourselves and others around us that there are "good reasons" to expect certain nerfs here or certain nerfs there. But at the end of the day, it's just speculation. MMOs have had balance issues for years before they were worked out, and some weren't worked out at all after much consternation and grief, both in-game and on forums.

To say that there is "one obvious path" of balance fixes coming in the future is to be foolishly naive and ignorant of the history of balance issues in online gaming. Sometimes broken things aren't fixed. Sometimes really powerful things aren't balanced. Sometimes really powerful things are "over-adjusted" and become completely useless. Which of these paths will any of the skills or classes in ToS take in the coming months? Literally who the fuck even knows?

tl;dr: Oracle is a class you play in Tree of Savior, it's not your job description IRL, nerd.

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So i'm about to install this game and decided to roll a mage. My question is how up2date was the cookie-cutter build in the pastebin in particular this one:

Wiz3Necro - Wizard > Wizard C2 > Wizard C3 > Linker > Linker C2 > Necromancer > Necromancer C2
tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117799.112335516a7585.3a4a55.213a

>stopped playing around 160 for IRL shit
>finally have some free time
>not entirely sure i want to jump back in
Are Clerics doing decent now? I remember it being, not so much hard, but time consuming to smack the shit out of mobs as a paladin

>>143956290
still has pyromancer on r7 build of kings too

So what Runecaster build is actually decent or at least passable then?

>>143962114
N-no! This isn't what I said. Just once if you got the funds or if you're already super rich in the millions then yes, reroll all the time.

>>143962129
No. I haven't even taken a break. I got b& tho from /tosg/ foe a nice 3 day vacation, but I won't discuss that.

>>143962157
Hahaha nope never
I miss my triple string amulet shield
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/648001/

>>143962210
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#21117799.11213f516a7585.3a4a55.253a4a85

>>143962171

But we DO know, everyone that was present since day 1 in CBT experienced it. There will ALWAYS be a new cookie cutter build that will replace the current one when a new class gets introduced.

Example, assuming you were there.. remember when everyone shat on Quarrel Shooter? Class was a laughing stock because Ranger was superior in every way. Now everyone that wants damage goes QS3.

MAYBE, just MAYBE you don't understand it because you're an OBT pleb.

>>143962210
Up to date as of release, really
IMC hasn't rebalanced iTOS at all

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>>143962231
Not the guy who said RC is futureproof and best class ever, but it's a hidden class for a reason. The rune of protection alone is a game changer. Have two members with RC and your guild can have them up in GvG most of the time.

>>143962057
>It's basically like running the dungeon 4 times a day for the price of 100k silver and 100k silver is an easy feat if you're not lazy about farming.

Or you could just save that 100k silver every day and put it towards the thing you actually want from that cube and buy it directly instead.

You're much more likely to raise the silver to outright buy the damn thing way before you ever get it on a chance alone on a re-roll. And even better, if you get it through a normal cube on your way to saving up for it, then you just saved up a shit-ton of money that you can now use for any other purpose.

Or, you know, keep spending 60,000 silver in order to receive a talt worth 5000 silver every day. It's your money, what do I care.

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I'll say this though, I regret going Pyro > Linker > Thauma for my Alchemist.

Pyro is terribly underpowered. Despite being a level 100 with both Arde and a +7 rod with 170 magic attack I feel underpowered.

I can't even finish mobs before Swell ends and I got the Swell Arms attribute to level 30 and I still feel underpowered.

I feel like I won't get invites to grind parties at all.

Someone convince me to reroll into Cryo 3 > Linker for SOME utility even though I've already wasted over 1 million into this thaumas attribues.... is Cryo > Linker easy to level?

Are cryo3 > chrono 3 support supposed to pump all con or something like 100 con and the rest into int?

>>143962535
Do you not use pardoner buffs?

>>143962496
Manticen is 60k.

60k is nothing anon.

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>>143962478
>he builds his characters for gvg

How long before server up?

>>143962649
>he's a pve player fighting dumb mobs
Ayy lmao

>>143962649
>not building for GvG with the new fps improvements.
You're missing out.

>>143962694
5 minutes

>>143962535
You're not expected to do damage as an alchemist, if you get in a grind party with the useless rank6 and rank7, it's because of Linker and Thaum. And obviously people will take full support or full dps over you, alchemist is dead weight.
Pyro is only there to help you quest alone.

>>143962694
steam is updating the game right now

>>143962413
>you don't understand cus you're an OBT pleb, if you were around for CBT you would be able to predict future nerfs as accurately as I do with perfect clarity

Here's your last (You). (You)'ve earned it. I can't handle how stupid this conversation has now become.

HOW HYPE ARE YOU FOR B O O S T E D FPS

It's up lads.

Do worldbosses, dungeons get reset on server maintenance?

it's up

ITS UP!

>>143962851
Field bosses do, world bosses respawn 4 hours after. Instances are always 6am.

POST FPS!

>>143962708
>new fps improvements
>going from 2 fps to 5 fps

>19mb patch
Expecting great improvements now

>>143962930
I have none since I got addons.

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POST YFW YOU SEE YOUR FPS

>>143962962
>no fps

rip dude

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>>143962984

FPS STATUS = NOT BOOSTED

SETUP YOUR STALLS PARDONERS TIME'S A WASTIN

Did they really fix anything?

literally zero difference

thanks for hyping nothing you shits

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>no FPS drops at all
>no lag since its post maintenance
it's so beautiful

>can't actually install the game

is this a joke

POST YOUR FPS

>>143963185
Go to Fedi right now and I dare you to say the same.

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>log in
>immediately see this and watch them set up shop
It's like seeing a unicorn

>>143963292
discipline

>there are people playing in this new fps heaven without knowing the secret to the ultimate DPS in the game
It's a cleric class i won't spoil it for you ;;;;;;;-)

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>>143963292
I saw you there, you're qt.

>>143963260
Read the OP, idiot.

>>143963260
read the OP

>>143963397
Does it start with an M and ends with K????

>>143963260
>run new task
>steam://install/372000
>still doesn't work

IS THIS A JOKE

>>143963292
I just did the same exact thing at level 90 dungeon, zachariel crossroads entrance :3

>>143963434
>Does it start with an M and ends with K????
omg lol

>>143963408
>>143963434
I did broskis. Just brought me to the store page with the game, no option to download.

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about to do Dullahan, I'll report FPS results

>>143963576
wait, I thought bosses didn't go up until 4 hours after maintenance

Do you guys notice a difference

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reeeeeee

>>143963292
i wanna fuck those big stupid tits

what's a good sub-200 place to farm now that no one is online at server up?

>>143963649
I crashed on Dulla spawn
Never happened before
So i would say patch made things worse for me

>>143963696
I crashed again...mid fight

>>143960826
>no geomancer
>the only 2 earth spells wizards have at the moment are garbage
ONE JOB IMC

>>143963290
>Fedimian
>about 30 people on the screen
>30-40 fps
Not bad, honestly.

what the fuck? who else crashed during dullahan? WHAT THE FUCK IMC WHYW HYWHYWHYWHY

>>143963438
yeah, it just takes me to the store page as well; the Tree of Savior publishers must be braindead

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> go to klai
> need new team name, overlaps with orsha team name, not even token doesnt work cross server

yeeeeargh, i dont know guys

>>143963806
>changing map
>try to alt-tab out like I always do
>can't
>map loads
>still can't alt-tab out no matter what i do
>change channels
>game crashes

YEAH NOT BAD

>>143963806
What about now with everyone doing spells?

>>143963836
I come back to hear I lost my cube, fuck this shit ass game

>>143957169
Wiz3 for Kino is also good, because of all those long ass casts.

>>143963402
h-hi Sorry, my Klaipeda characters are for my ERP buddy only

>>143963902
Anon, you know quick cast doesn't do anything for the speed, right? You still get the damage boost but the channel speed is the same.

NICE GAME OPTIMIZATION IMC

>>143963861
>actually alt-tab while changing map
Fucking why.

>>143964040
Not him but I do it all the time.

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>>143962750
What would you suggest be my Rank 5?

Pyro C2 seems solid for Dilgele farming.
Linker C2 seems solid for getting into those "LF Linker" parties, but I don't know
Thauma C2 seems solid but it's like 4 million silver to max the attributes and no one really needs a Thauma C2, but it would help me farm too.

So I'm not sure if I should go Pyro C2 or Thauma C2.

What would you suggest anon-kun?

Also what if I went Sorcerer just for the hell of it?

>>143964076
Does the loading time really slow or something?

>>143964076
It's really tempting to do, but it promotes getting stuck at loading screen.

poor shit here

should i insta buy a token once i have the silver for it

>>143964040
I do this too.
W-why not?

>>143964120
>implying you'll have the silver
I hope you're playing in SEA, otherwise there's no chance of affording one

There's literally no difference.

Fucking gook coding lol.

>>143964115
>>143964118
Sometimes it gives the this program has stopped working popup but it finishes loading like 2 seconds later.

>>143964104
Go sorcerer.

>>143964220
Huh, never have this problem. Then again I'm using SSD so that's probably why.

So apparently they also added a little progress meter to your quest icons

Great dev focus, IMC

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MUH 2,5 FPS IMPROVEMENTS

Which archer builds can I do while going Sapper 3?

>>143964383
sapper

>>143964279
Also character silhouettes are easier to see now. Shiny mobs are also much easier to notice.

It's too late
People have quit
The bad reviews will stay
The damage is done

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NotLikeThis

IMC WHY

So is it just impossible to download the game now? Did I wait too long to begin my Korean adventure into nostaliga land?

>>143964404

So are guild towers.

>>143964421
2x FPS

>>143964421
I blame the redditapps

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>>143964397
?

>>143964415

Support Wolfknights!

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>The FPS got even worse and normies still can't make new accounts

It literally never ends.

>>143964493
the game is crashing some people

On a scale from 1 to Sadhu's prospective PvP career, how dead is this game?

>>143964415
Yes yes we all know, same thing every thread.

In other news is going linker for one rank in a build recommended?

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>>143963859

guyyyyys
convince me to leave it all behind

my hatred for HUEHUE is not strong enough on its own

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>>143963576
2.5 x 0 fps = 0 FPS

>>143964421
It would've been half of that without optimization, be grateful you entitled fuck.

>>143964573
just wait, orsha will merge with klai in time

>>143964573
Stay and hue with me, anon.

>>143964493
Good. I hope the game dies to the point where I can play it in peace with few people. I want no more than 200-400 daily logins on each server. That would be my dream Tree of Savior.

>>143964573
I'm hue and I frequent this threads daily, this triggers you?

>>143964542
isn't Possession still pretty OP 1vs1?

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>>143964421
>Promised an optimization patch
>Go to Dulla to test it out
>30 people camping Dulla
>FPS goes below .82
>Crashes game
I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IMC'S LIES AGAIN

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>>143964628

... yeah it probably will, won't it

>>143964649

WE HUEHAUEHEU AS ONE

>>143964707
85%

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>>143964573
>>143964649
>>143964695
>>143964728

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>>143964701

>>143964421
>improve drawcall
>still not multi-core support
It's like giving v8 engine.to a unicycle.

Don't listen to FOEverwatching tardmos. FPS did get better in normal scenes. Nothing will help 2fpshoglan extreme situations though.

>>143964832
I think my normal FPS in the field is actually a lot better now, so thats nice I guess

>31mb patch
>Expecting amazing fps boost