Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj

>>143921759
Stop making threads so early, we are not the only general on the board.

Racism is not cute

>>143922026
What can you expect of self-centered discordshitters.

>>143922026
It's already bump limit at page 7.

>>143922169
And the board got 10 pages. Just take it easy.

On a scale from 1 to Sadhu's prospective PvP career, how dead is this game?

>>143922169
>not on page 10 yet making new thread
ishiggidy

>>143922261
Discord/10

>>143922026
>>143922260
Someone complained that people should make another thread when the thread autosages.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/patch-info-cleric-patches-from-ktos-and-itos/282657


So, all the classes that /tosg/ hates are getting buffed over and over, what a good day.

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>>143922026
>check bottom of catalogue
>four different guild wars 2 generals with only a handful of replies each
Yeah it's a real fucking travesty that we pushed one of those off the board.

Why the fuck is everything in itos nerfed compared to ktos?

>>143922347
yeah, buffed in ktos. Well just get tooltip fixes, how nice.

>>143922465
Because "optimization is our priority" apparently

>>143922465

Pretty much everything that's nerfed here is "so strong you MUST be this class" on ktos.

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/Ohayou/ when?

>>143922465

They fear korean backlash. We have what koreans should have as well but wont get because the last 3 people playing there would quit.

>>143922632
Ohayous of /tosg/ when

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>>143922632
Soon!

>>143922347
>tripled zombie stats
>we'll never get this

Best way to make silver now I can buy TP?

>>143922587
But we got itos-specific nerfs. What the fuck is those gooks' problem?

>>143922632

what is ohayou

>>143922234


Thy why I told you more than five times to take linker.

Necromancer SCREAMS linker.

What's the point in arguing about build efficiency? The game isn't about group content, it's not about solo content. It has no direction. Game is about realizing it has no direction.

>>143922347
> Heal

12/05/2016 kTOS
[Team Battle League] Heal Tile Circle Duration will expire after 10 seconds. ( Previously 40 Seconds )

What does that mean? That the the 2nd cast recovers faster now?
>guardian saint made not as useles
Neat but is it for the target, the caster or both.

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>>143922347
>Zombify
>The stats of zombies are now 3x stronger than before.
Give to me IMC!

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>>143922721
No.

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What is even the point of these things?
At least I got a biscuit.

>>143922750
because theyre gooks, only other gooks get to have fun, we only getfun months later or not at all.

>>143922896
Target i beleive. For heal it doesnt effect recast just makes tiles dissappear quicker. That, the monk buff, and the bokor buff were pretty nice.

>>143922347
Paladin

Conviction

12/05/2016 kTOS
This skill will deal 20% more damage when hitting an enemy afflicted with [Stun].

This pleases me greatly because 6% chance to stun with clubs happens way more than one would think.

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>>143922713
There will be no match for /tosg/ Ohayous!

>>143922721
Who's going to make it?! How soon?!

>>143922896
place heal tile in arena
it's gone after 10 seconds

>>143923060
R6 nearing rank up soon :^)

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>>143922756
One of 50 states in the usa.

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>>143918569
that's ok. you read one of them at the very least.

i'm a shitter that reads generic moege #3423438 more often than not anyway because it soothes my miserable soul.

hair buns is OBJECTIVELY the best haircut

I have Australian ping (230) I guess i'm fucked for auto based classes again is the cleric a skill based mele or pure caster? or do I just play a ranged caster again?

>>143923030
>>143923067
Well that's pretty if it was for everything but it is only arena so whatever.

I want to hold hands with a chronomancer!

>>143922347
>Not all kTOS patches are going to be implemented in iTOS, and not all iToS patches were implemented in kToS

>>143922972
Do you need to queue for this thing? Is it a team vs team match?

>>143922347
Melstis

26/05/2016 kTOS
Fixed the bug where you could retain the 'level-up' buff effect when under the effects of [Melstis]


Shit, so it was useful for something.

>>143923345
Are you sure you use the right server?

>>143923345
>230 is bad
I'm at 390 and I'm playing fencer one of the most ping reliant classes fine.
well okay fine is probably a lie since I've never succesfully used flan's dodge due to delay and any multihits lags me badly

My advice is to stick to healsluts or support wizard

>>143923608
>Not all
Should be honest and say "none"

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Why won't IMC let me change my eye colour yet?

>>143923345
I am auscunt too, I play a qs3 and it is only mildly tear inducing but for the most part is quite bearable. I'd say go with whatever you want to play, I found that on my cata that the ping would make me double auto twice with only one hit counting and that was in melee range where I would receive my raping because stuck in place.
I'd recommend a range character that uses more skills than autoing though, just for those times when you do get stuck in place then you aren't in immediate danger.

>>143923778
>what is linker nerf

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>>143923060
Very soon!
>>143923180
Keep up the good work! Looking forward to it!

>>143923345
Try chrono

>Orsha tokens @1mil
Wonder what it will look like after this week.

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>>143923617
I queued for maybe 30 seconds before it let me in, I don't even know how to bring others in yet.
I'll try testing with a next time.

You don't see the other 'team' at all, you'll never know who you got matched up with unless you lose, and the win message is displayed.

The event just spawns a bunch of mobs to bumrush your statue, I win everytime just by casting Sleep on them, and wait for the other side to get destroyed.

They even recycled a quest item as a useless reward.

>bokors/sorcerers/necromancers get to afk at bees and get free exp and silver for doing nothing but sitting down and looking at their screen
>i have to put actual effort in to make a fraction of what they make
Not cool, famarinos.

>>143924449
>free exp
Is this NIGGER serious

>>143924449
You jelly that some of the most useless classes in the game have an use?

They're shit everywhere else, meanwhile they'll never compete a boss with any other class, for example. This trade off is more than fair.

I want build a cryo3 and alchemist, but what I do with the circle left?

>>143924729
>implying my zombies don't assfuck bees at 160

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>>143924449
Get a pet.

>>143924824
Who cares, it's an alchemist

>>143924824
kino

>>143924449
Corsairs make 400-500k per hour as well as plunder cubes (must have flag 15 through as higher levels vastly increase the rate of both silver and item drops), alchemists can make a few hundred k each batch due to people happily accepting the dilgele 1:1 trade where you make a profit of 3 pots each trade of 5, squires can... well squires can earn a tiny bit of revenue near dungeon entrances I guess.

>>143924824
Collect the prettiest custome!

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>>143924898
But alchemist is cool.

>>143924886
They're pretty shit, though.

>>143923910
>>143924176

Ok, can I do a Cyro/Chrono and not have a complete shit of a time leveling?

Orsha or Klaipeda for starting city? Does it even matter?

>>143925115
no, have fun

>>143925102

But you're supposed to go 2 pyro 2 thaum for alchemist.

It's the only alch combo that does anything for a party endgame.

>>143924449
>bokors get to afk at bees
Fuck you since when
My zombies die in like 4 minutes, tell me how i get to afk at bees

>>143925152
Klai is easier and no, it doesn't really matter.

>>143925152
Klaip due to it being more complete, namely in the class advancement quests. Doesnt necessarily matter either way, youll be doing quests for both sides ideally.

>>143925194
Since Bokor zombies got 3x stats in kToS

>>143925115
You will suffer when leveling but at least its less suffering than most hahaman lategame.

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>>143925193
... I am in my first circle of cryo, what you suggest for a cryo3?

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>>143925115
>CryoChrono
>not have a complete shit of a time leveling

>>143925152
doesn't matter since you'll be doing both branches anyways
klai is slightly easier to start if you're a complete noob

>>143922727
>>143922907

Sadly, this STILL doesn't address the biggest fucking problem facing zombie bokors.

Is there a meetup today?

>>143925294
Zombie HP loss is percentage based though.

Any madman here spent some millions to boost his pet?

>>143925510
than you macro sp pot use just like the sorcs

>>143925505
What is the problem? Legit question, I haven't paid any attention to a few classes and bokor is one of them

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>>143923281
no u
>>143922347
Where's my wugushi fixes?


Also what's /tosg/'s opinion on this guy's R7 Rogue build?
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/idreamys-guide-to-scout-c3/266089

>>143925193
>pyro without linker
t. misinfo agent

>>143925609
How does using an sp pot stop your zombies from expiring

>>143925393
???
How being accepted in every party makes leveling hard?

>>143925363
Thaum or linker

>>143925576
I've spent 400k on my pet just to ensure my alts level faster.
Its still a waste as past level 30-40 even a level 200 or so pet is worthless
>>143925663
nonexistent ai
>>143925682
>he doesn't know
ktos has less linker nerfs than us here in itos and even than pyro2thaum2 is meta
The reason being of course elememe being meta

>>143925152
Klai has better quest rewards but orsha has far better maps. You should do both aynway with teleport scrolls.

>>143925663
Bad ai.
>expecting intelligent moving zombies
ayy lmao

>>143924449
>Bokors
>AFK

suuuuuuuuuuuuuure


>i have to put actual effort in to make a fraction of what they make

HONEST
HARDWORKING
PLAYERS

>>143925917
It's not about 'muh nerfs', it's about pyro being unusable without linker.

Theoryshitters please go.

>>143926189

>pyro being unusable

How will I ever live without dealing less damage to less targets..........

>>143925152

Klai has better map level progression.

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You think drawfags are going to come back and start making porn for us again?

Asking for a friend.

>>143926126
Without any buffs zombies will easily last 3 mins, not much worse than Sorcerer's 5 mins.

So if I'm trying to be a heal/support cleric, ,do I stack INT and SPR?

>>143926250
Are you retarded? How does linker hit less targets than thaum?

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imc with the classic drugseller strategy, give people free tokens so they see how good tokens are and then raises the price

>>143925713
/tosg/ is retarded & doesn't even know how bokors work.

Ignore him.

>>143926316
if you're actually planning to use those debuffs, SPR/INT/CON

>>143926279
No reason to draw porn for a dead game. If you want some, try commissioning it.

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>level 109
>already bored

How do you guys keep playing this? Besides dungeons/daily, questing sucks and I end up almost sleeping.

Just got C1 Fletcher, where should I be wanting to put my points in?

>>143926506
Can't I just trade Cattly for pictures instead?

Is Esquive Toucher as bad as people says it is? It seems a useful tool to have atm moment but seems that will be completely neglected as soon as I hit fencer c2 and get the spammable composee

>>143926627
you have to enjoy the system, if you cant find any fun with your class, then its going to be horrible for you.

>>143925917
How does the cost of increasing your pet's stats increase? You've spent 400k, what are its stats and how much does it cost to increase them now?

>>143925669
Retarded special snowflake build guide.

>muh barrage + feint
It's okay, not worth losing an r7 for it.

>muh double flare
Yeah because everyone's gonna play around your stupid tiny range that also requires preparation.

>muh farming scout 3 is relevant in ET and world bosses!
I mean scout 3 is pretty decent, but that person oversells it hard.

If you want a more or less average non-specific build it's ok, but I would think it over more if I were you.

>I was relevant in other video games so I'm relevant here too and that makes my opinion better than yours xD!
JUST

Also, here's hoping tonight's performance improvements will help fix weapon swap lag so the c7 builds are even more viable.

>>143926637
Forgot to mention that I'm taking the Archer2>Ranger1>Scout1>Fletcher3 route
Based on the cookie cutter build there's still alot of leftover points in Archer and Ranger, where should the points go to?

>>143926370
u got any more of dem tokens? *shivering intensifies*

I'm the priest that messed up with the stats from yesterday.

I've lost my confidence in leveling things. So what skills do I get? I'm following the pastebin build, but I'm unsure what I should max with the "optional" points. I'm C2 now, and the build tells me to max Mass Heal and Revive. If I do max those, I was wondering if I should use the leftover points to max blessing since it seems to be so very useful. If I max it to level 10, I'd have enough points to get aspersio or sacrament to level 3 with the other being left at 1. I was thinking about aspersio since the % scales with level and sacrament just duration and +2 attack per level. Is this stupid? Please help

>>143926637
one in each for now. f1 isn't that great. make sure you save 5 points for f2 so you can point it all to magic arrow immediately.

i went broadhead 5 bopkin 1 crossfire 4. if you want barbed you can take 1 out of broadhead or whatever.

>>143926309
Sorcerers can get auto-SP potion use addons and shit so that they can AFK forever.

Bokors cannot do that. They get to AFK for like 3 minutes. I guess you could theoretically macro Heal or something, but it'd probably still not work.

Maybe go Paladin for Restoration and macro that? I think the Zombie debuff is actually just a negative HP restoration value, so if that's the case you can fix the issue completely with Paladin.

>>143925663
1) Zombie ai is absolutely retarded. You can park an entire train on an enemy with a gorillion HP, stop doing it because having them actually attack will be faster, and 2/3 of them will just wander the fuck off, usually pursuing a tree root crystal or nobody-enemy half a mile away. Until they learn to properly program targetting priorities, this could be mitigated if IMC simply removed the part of zombie ai to completely disregard tree root crystals. But IMC refuses to do even that much.

2) The overwhelming majority of enemies with a gorillion HP are leather. Stop this, IMC.

3) The worst part, though, is that literally every unavoidable ranged attack just shuts a bokor down. I'm not opposed to the idea of hits stopping the train, but when everything on certain maps just renders you fucking useless, this is not okay. Notable early examples are Mage Tower 3f and that orsha-side place with the pag nurses.

>>143926854
Save 5 points for magic arrow, the other fletcher skills are all situational so they depend on what you want to do.

Archer doesn't matter as long as you have 10 multishot, 10 swift, 1 heavy 1 oblique 1 full draw. Ranger doesn't matter as long as you have 5 barrage 5 steady.

>>143927095
>auto-SP potion use addons
That's literally botting.

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>>143927095
>literally botting

>>143927095
If you're going to literally bot you might as well go all the way instead of doing some half assed afk macro.

Why do Priests go "Chupoloo" when casting Blessing?

>>143927298
>>143927312
It's not like I do it. I'm just trying to figure out how anyone thinks Bokor can AFK farm.

I wonder how much investment it'd take for a Sorceror to have enough SP regen to outpace their summon's usage.

>>143926189

>pyro being unusable without linker

you got memed on if you think that's true at all

even on ktos where linker causes pyro to do literally 6-16x damage it's considered shit compared to pyrothaum

What is better a physical or magical "dps" cleric?

>>143927534
You just said sorcs can use auto-pot macros to afk forever, meaning they are botting. SP regen is also disabled while sorc's summon is out.

>>143926931
Getting Sac past level 1 is a waste. Everyone will just buy a level 11 from a Pardoner. Even if they don't, Sac 1 will do 99% the same thing as level 11.

Aspersio is really only useful if you're going Chaplain. Again, everyone who gives a shit about it is going to just buy level 16 (50% Def increase) from a Pardoner.

So, get whatever you want. It doesn't matter shit.

>>143927534
SP regen is disabled completely while Sorc's main summon is out.
I just pot every 5 minutes or so, then go back to work.

>>143927641
A cleric2 that drops healtiles.

>>143926931
Please send help

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>>143927530

Chupoloo > Chaplain + Toy hammer = El Chapulin.

Do... do Orshafags simply not know how to do dungeon runs? Their behavior is weird and hard to explain.

Also, none of the orsha swordies I see have had a single circle in Pelta. What is this bullshit.

>>143927576
You're either theoryshitting or ktos' pyro isn't nerfed compared to itos', but pyro without linker on itos is pathetic. If you actually played the class you theoryshit about you'd know why.

Alright, just downloaded the game, played Champ, LordKnight, and SinX in RO, what classes feel remotely like those classes.

>>143927790
they're like that one retarded cousin everyone has

>>143927779
Go away mexico

>>143927716
I do intend on going chaplain.

So is it okay to max blessing? If I do I'll have it as good as any pardoners which I think would be useful since I'll be aa'ing a lot. Is lv 3 aspersio fine then?

>>143927829
None.

What would a good R7 for Archer3 Scout3 be?
I was thinking either Fwee~ or Scout for the utility, Musk or Cannon both don't really seem to fit into that build all that well

>>143927829
Monk

>>143927779
You're from Mexico. What does Chupaluka mean in your language?

>>143927829
play a monk bro, mad deeps

>>143927730
How about you fuck off faggot. Obviously you would be healing for a dungeon but when you are solo'ing you aren't going to be killing everything with heal tiles you stupid cunt there is a reason dps was in quotes. Kill yourself. I bet you're a fucking swordfag too.

>>143926741
Weakest skill in fencers repertoire I'd say, could be way better. 0 or 1 point.
I wish the cd was shorter / evade window longer

>>143927829
Most likely Monk.

>>143928096
>he doesn't healbomb
What is this heresy?

>>143927654
Okay? I don't get what kind of point you're trying to make. I'm not saying that Sorcerors can AFK farm legitimately. Necro is the only class which can actually do that within the rules of the game, to my knowledge. I was trying to figure out how someone would equate Bokors and Sorcerers in AFK farming ability - since Sorcerers require botting in the form of auto-SP potion use, I had to find an equivalent.

That was literally my first post in that entire reply chain, just in case you're mistaking me for someone else.

Are there any madmen put there who want to go the true future proof route and get to 280 with pure auto attacks? I mean no job advancements or skill investments at all, just you, your whack stick, cafrisun and pardoner buffs.

>>143926931
Blessing is well worth it still especially if you solo but will fall off eventually once enemy hps scale of the roof and your blessing still only adds hard +100 something per hit.

>>143927829
Melee damage is garbage in this game so none. Best you can get is probably spear shinobi.

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Who wants to kiss!

>>143928171
>healbomb FLYING monsters

How about you play the game? Not to mention the downtime between doing so.

>>143928297
Kill yourself.

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>>143928297

>>143928251
There are screenshots of some swordie doing just that in kToS. Probably got hardcarried by friends though, I can't imagine anyone wanting to solo like that past ~180.

>>143928345
Please be kind, Anon.

>>143928251
You'd have to grind all the class exp so there's really no point since it'd be the same as making a new character once new ranks are out.

>>143927801

So what does pyro gain from linker, smart guy? :^)

Oh that's right: nothing but wasted ranks

Meanwhile: pyrothaum has their base damage triple to sextupled depending on skill, with 100% uptime, and gets double xp and drops
Linker gets: ??????to link 6 mobs once every 20 seconds for a severely nerfed damage increase???????

Wow!!!! Killing 6 mobs out of 40 faster really helped your ET party !!!


New korean meta incoming ? ?? ?

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>>143928096
>ut when you are solo'ing you aren't going to be killing everything with heal tiles
I do actually + cure bombs. Get those attributes up. There will be maps where you can oneshot enemies witha single heal tile where you can level and gather silver/drops like crazy. Cleric is only hard to solo in areas with many flying monsters.

Can I make a account and play or the restriction is still in place?

why does one of my weapons have a pentagon slot

>>143928502
Yes, read the OP.

>>143928080
Fuck can't tell if you're trolling. I rolled cleric to build toward monk, following tips from here https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/pve-pvp-monk-build-ro-style/154738

Am I being fucking retarded? Is monk poo?

>>143928295
>Melee damage is garbage
Stop spouting false statements like you know shit. Swordie damage only falls off very lategame which will hopefully get patched once imc polished the client.

>Get to 90
>Do my 2 dungeon runs
>94

So I'm done for the day? I just wait?

>>143928486
If you're building for ET you'd just go pyro1link1thaum instead of pyro2. You posted pyro2 which makes me assume you wanted some solo ability, which in that case have fun soloing a pyro without linker.

Of course I say "have fun" but we both know you're a theoryshitting swordshitter who will never suffer from this kind of shit build misinfo.

>>143928502
You can try

>>143927968
SR

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>>143928297
You can kiss my butt

>>143928581
Monk is getting buffed to the skies in the latest kTOS patch, if we ever get that 90% of /tosg/ will kill themselves because they hate monks, thats all.

>>143928534
Gem slot was opened by blacksmith

>>143928706
Can you use Split and Twin Arrow while mounted?

>>143927939
Please respond. I'm insecure.

>>143928639
>level 177
>very lategame
lol

>>143928581
Monk is fine if you want to be a healer and bap people in between doing healer stuff.

>>143927908
>>143928034

Haha, no, I'm not a mexican, I'm BR.

El Chapulin and El Chavo Del Ocho show are two very popular shows here, pretty much everyone from the 80s and early 90s grow up watching this Mexican guy's.

Chupaluka probably is just a flexion of the world famous Chupacabra, some cryptozoology/folklore animal.

what's the best class in the game?

shinobi?

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>>143928669

don't post a build that bad if you want to trick anyone with more than two braincells

stop shitting up the general with your arguments

>>143927939
Aspersio is a major damage dealer to you, thanks to Aspergillum adding Aspersio damage per hit... but it's only like 20 damage per Aspersio level I guess.

Maxing Bless is fine. People can't use it from Pardoners since it has a hit-limit. Bless is amazing early on but as gear gets better, it becomes less and less important. That's why most people care more about Mass Heal, Stone Skin, Revive and Resurrect than Bless. Just remember to have at least one point in Monstrance though.

>>143928805
Yes.

>>143928873
monk

>>143928775
how did he put it on a mob though

>>143928581
Would be better to read the Cookie cutter pastebin in the OP and ask in thread rather than get advice from some theorycrafter from the forums.

>>143928727
Kiss your butthole

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Remember?

>>143928101

Yeah, I got this bad feeling about this skill.

I'm new to fencer, just got my 1 point into lunge, coquille, sept and flamn and now I'm more prone to max lunge or maybe a second point into coquille since I don't have the venier yet. But to be honest, I'm comboing pretty well with 180 ping.

>>143928581
Monk is fine, so long as you keep in mind you're support 1st. Problem is people think theyre RO monks and that you can just drop your healing class as soon as you swap over.

Are there any ET viable builds with Falconer that aren't the QS3 crap? I really don't want to do Saalus every day for the next year and still not get a Didel but I do want a Falcon

>>143928639
>280
>late game
>max level 600

>>143929014
I would kiss that butthole.

>>143928751
Monks will still be shit because the core problem is between the desk and chair.

>>143928432
You be nice too, please.
>>143928727
I am not interested, sorry!

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What is this face trying to convey?

>>143929164

MY KEYBOARD IS FINE

>>143929110

cannon is really good with FWEE~

it's the best dungeon/et pve archer class anyway

>>143929110
Archer3>Hunter2>Falconer2

>>143929312
>My back hurts

>>143928908
Ah, I see. Well, I have blessing at 10, the skill planner says I can get asp. to lv 11 if I use my other points towards that from now on. Should I do that? or does it not matter because I can just buy pardoner buffs and I'll be able to at least max blessing if I stick to it? Sorry to be asking so much, and thanks for replying

>>143929312
>The entire human population of three maps got genocided and I did fucking nothing to stop it
>Also, I refuse to open that portal for you even though it'd probably solve every problem ever

>>143929312
>revelator smells like ass

>>143928902
>literally no argument
kys misinfo agent

>Saw a bunch of /tosg/ people running around
>Too shy to approach them

Did you guys see me?

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I'm in the process of creating a new effective build that hasn't been tried out yet.

This is what I got:

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2111aahg.19213f6a7585.1a3a4565.153545.14253145

What do you think? Have I blown your mind yet? Imagine how futureproof this build is too. It can go into either C2 Featherfoot or C2 Runecaster come rank 8, so whichever one of those has an amazeballs C2 I can be ready for it.

And you KNOW that one of those two classes is getting serious love in rank 8. They're not going to let Warlock be the only game in town, folks.

>>143929418
>Ah, I see. Well, I have blessing at 10

Have you NEVER read anything tosg says, or do you just have a card that tells you to do the opposite?

4-5 or 15. No middle ground bullshit.

>>143929418
You would be an idiot if you buy your owns class skills.

>>143929668
>C2 Runecaster

I'm about to hit 162. At what lvl should I start to use my exp cards?

I know the dungeon 175 is pretty shitty, but at least is pretty fast, right? Any good drops there?

>>143929668
>C2 Runecaster

what

>>143929357
No.

>>143929341
How would you build that? Archer2 Ranger1 Wugu2 Falcon Cannon or something?

>>143929602
>Saw a bunch of /tosg/ people running around
>switch 5 channels away and go to a different map

>>143929668
>C2 Runecaster
This is the type of person who theoryshits.

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ummmmmmm

>>143929690
A card?

Well, then do you think I should go for max blessing and lv3 aspersion?

>>143929741
I don't know much yet, but they'd be better than the ones I could use, but I suppose the improvement in aspergillum would be minimal

Is there any Rodelero build that doesn't get Corsair?
Isn't having so many CC evasion and 2 stuns every 15 secs not enough?

I will never tell tosg my name.

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>>143928297
Cute cat. Now where's my kToS screenshot?

>>143929418
Every point in Asp makes your soloing that much easier (since you're taking it for Aspergillum damage, you'll never actually cast it), while making your support that much less. It's really up to you.

For Bless, level 3 + ATTRIBUTES is enough, but every point more makes it better. That's 123 extra damage per hit for 60 hits. Level 15 is 170 extra damage for 180 hits. Anything between those is acceptable.

>>143929741
I buy Sac all the time, since recasting the 4 minute buff sucks.
Yes, I am that lazy! But the money cost is literally nothing, too!

>>143929861
Archer2 ranger scout rogue fwee cannon

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>>143929961

>>143929783
>>143929860
>>143929934
Alright fine, even if Runecaster never gets another circle you still have to admit C2 Featherfoot is ON POINT to receive some major love come Rank 8.

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How many times does Frost Cloud hit?

>>143929961
good build

>>143930112

33

Should I go scout3 or scout1rogue2 for my archer?

>>143930017
>"literally" nothing
>1k silver per cast
It's your money.

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>>143929979

It was useful for keeping me off Gajiba.
Or thinking Orsha would be a good idea.

is sapper any good
what are they good at?

>>143930264
>falling for the scout meme

>>143930170
That's rapist.

>>143930292
Yes, making 1k silver over 64 minutes is terribly difficult. I believe I made that around level 10, but your performance may vary.

>>143930339
>being a shitter on the internet

>>143930017
Ah, I feel bad for the extra points I put in blessing now. It's at level 7 and that means asp can only go to 11.

Should I still go for asp then? I mean I do wanna support, but would lv 7 be too low to do that?

Also thank you for the helpful replies

>>143928297
I'm going to find you and give you ears

Doggy ears or cat ears?

>>143930531
Again, it is entirely up to you. It's just about how much you value being support and your ability to solo.

Every point in Asp is a point that's not in your support abilities and every point not in Asp hurts your solo DPS.

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Show me the cute!

>>143930014
I'm paying Overwatch meow, gimme a few.
>>143930685
I wad hoping you'd be around earlier when I was playing so I'd have someone to keep me company.

Is there a map with the locations of collections or an addon?

>>143930876
I'm not cute, sorry.

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>>143930876

>>143930809
Ah, you're right. I do want to be good at support, so I'll go for bless and level slower by myself with asp. lv3 then. Thank you

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>>143930876

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>>143931040
http://toscamp.com/map_en/map3.8.php

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>>143930876

>>143931097
>>143931119
>pets are ugly
>summons are worse
>light-hearted game

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>>143931043
Everything is cute in it's own way anon!

Even these! >>143931097 >>143931119

>>143931236
I love you.

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>>143931321
>Ugly

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>>143930876

>>143930889
What level are you?

As a shinobi, what should my second class be? A lot of people say peltasta is essential while most say it's pretty useless for a dps-centric end.

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>>143930876

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>>143931525
I know.

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>>143930876

If I'm to make a guild to get some pushback against Comfy, should I name it aptly as Vex?

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>>143930876

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>>143931321
>tos
>lighthearted game
Did you even get past the server select screen?

>>143931625
I was 25 or so, I think. I was in the panto area.

>>143931825
>aptly as Vex
Is this english?

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>>143930876
Is this cute?

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>>143931318
>>143931610
>>143931684
>>143931743
>>143931841
>>143932039
So much cute in one place!

>>143931897
It's pretty lighthearted as compared to all the grimdark mmos out there.

>>143932039
Seems like a futa trying to fuck the pet

>>143931825
is that pinoy for monkey?

3 hours till maintenance.

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>>143930876

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>yfw you got 2 drops of [That thing you want] from 3 cube opening from channel 1 and channel 3

>>143931910
I guess if you really want a friend, but don't get any funny ideas!

>>143932180
Dude seriously did you play even a single minute? Or did you just spam space every single dialgoue box? Even then you should notice all the dark stuff.

>>143932028
>>143932231
Go be a mongoloid somewhere else, okay?

>>143929038
>key begging
Nah, I'd rather forget that era.

which gold seller is legit?

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>>143932295
I want to use her skirt as an umbrella.

>>143932450
says the pinoy

>>143921821
He's right though.

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you know who to wardec now

>>143932547

I actually will when I get home later. :3c

>>143932494
I heard USAGold is pretty good

>>143932547
>Kirito
>Joining a Pk guild

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>>143932304
Congrats anon, im so happy for you

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>>143932108
Thanks, cutie!

>>143932540
>pinoy
>mongoloid
>not superior master race
Try harder. Acceptance is a difficult phase.

>>143932374
La la la, I can't hear you over the sound of these fluffy popolions and hanamings!

>>143932180
>"Please save that scout who is my dear friend, revelator"
>Do it, scout is fugged up but you manage to reach the end
>Boss kills scout in front of you huehuehue

That, poisoning villagers, practising witchcraft on farms, and more aren't enough for you?

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Oracle has the best class master.

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>>143932180
It didn't seem that light hearted while I was going around collecting the last wills and mementos from soldiers caught in a curse that petrifies them but keeps them alive, their sanity slowly eroding away while demons hack at their bodies every day.

>>143931825
bullies

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>>143931321
>light hearted game

>>143933239
Come find me if you want your dick sucked.

>>143933239
Looks like a victim of Korean plastic surgery.

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T-TODAY

>>143933406
>victim

>>143933146
I don't know what you're talking about. I haven't quested from the very first map.

>he's not going Thaum for support
>he's going Cryo/Chrono like some dumb sheep
>probably even thinks Linker sucks
>probably thinks Thaum is bad for increased damage but maintains that maxing strength is the way to go

oh my GOD HOW CAN YOU EVEN BE THIS MUCH OF A

FU
CK
ING
SH
ITT
ER

hey fucks lets do some THEORYCRAFTING (oh shit i said it fuck)

at max w/o attributes thaum3 gets 150 attack from swell left and 111 from swell right (assuming you're using a 2h or an offhand damage weapon). That's 261 total damage. Every R7 class on your team ALSO gets, from swell brain, 45 magic damage, for a total of 306 magic damage bonus. shit thats pretty nice. not bad at all, considering it goes on your entire team. your elememe's gonna fucking love you for adding 15k damage to his frost cloud. your swordie might even do fucking damage (lol who are we kidding he's using a fucking shield)

now thats w/o attributes but WITH attributes (investment of ~~~10m) thaum becomes... op...

304 damage from swell left arm. 261 damage from swell right arm. 561 damage for everyone on your team (again tankcucks don't count... lol). for the uninitiated, that's approximately the difference between a full strength swordsman's damage and a full con swordsman's damage (or a full int elememe and a full con ((aka useless)) elememe).

but wait

o fuc

we forgot swell brain

145 int. another 145 damage. 706... magic damage...

thats more magic damage than you can even get putting points into int right now... for your entire party... including YOUR. SELF. consider the power. this might be the strongest support in the game.

also i haven't confirmed this but swell brain MIGHT???? get the 70% rank bonus in which case youshouldkillyourselffornotgoingthaum

so yeah you fucking chronos can go fuck off? what do you even do in this game? pass every minute? 10% boss reincarnates? a little crit rate? a little speed and evasion? meaningless attack speed?

be a real hero. go thaum. it's the best. better than memes.

>>143933456
But you said it wasn't.

Meeting today right?

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>>143932327
I'd love for you to be my friend. If archer is not convenient for what you would like to play, I'd be happy to restart as something else.
>>143930014
Here's this, it wanted me to redownload the setup and game though, which isn't happening right meow since I'm playing Overwatch.

>>143933602
I've been wrong before.

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>>143933608
Yes!

>>143933465
>woman
>not a victim
What's wrong with you?

>>143933608

No reason to, guild leader isn't even on to invite people anyway.

>>143933750
When and where?

>>143933512
Green text is from an Orsha map, the other two are from the farm's quests, that reward you the Tenant's friend title. Rose's aka desudesugirl story isn't that uppity either

>>143933715
>dat amount of fucking tabs
Seriously anon, why go to all these length to pose as some avatarfag just to shill a completely different game from what this general is?

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I just started and hfs this is amazing. Lodge is Corvintine on Klaipedia if anyone wants to add. swords1/highlander2 atm, adding corsair1/fencer2 when I get there.

>>143933543
B-but the huge hands are ugly!

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hmmm

>>143932734
You'll find happiness soon as well anon! Don't give up!

so do the monk buffs look significant enough to make monk viable dps at all? How do respecs work in this game, and are monks decent in pvp at all? Im really only playing this game to see if the pvp was as exciting as RO, even tho the games play completely diff.

>>143933543
THAUM IS SHIT. STAT INCREASE IS SHIT. FUCK INT. FUCK BIG ARSM. FUCK BIG HEAD. OUTFIT IS COOL.
CHRONO IS CUTE. FUCKING CUTE. I MIGHT JUST RAPE A CHRONOCUTE. PASS IS AMAZING. HASTE IS PRETTY FUN. QUICKEN IS KIND OF USELESS BUT WHATEVER IT'S PRETTY COOL I GUESS. WANT TO BUY CHRONOSLAVE WILL TREAT POORLY BUT YOU WILL MAKE AT LEAST 10MIL A WEEK. MINIMUM.

>>143934138
uhmmm....

>Umbo blow deals triple damage after blocking an attack

Wow.

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>>143934165
Quads >

>>143934298
I-i would sell myself to you, anon. For almost nothing... But i play on slut server... ;-;

>>143934034
Oki doki, convince yourself nerd.

>>143934350
>level 20 swordsman

>>143934350
>After using all those buffs/meeting these specific conditions that more often than not are restrictive and impractical, swordies still don't do as much damage as archers

>>143933715
I only get those many tabs when i'm watching porn. Are you watching porn?

>>143934583

Cool. But don't forget you have to enhance every piece of equipment in the game, including one-time untradeable quest rewards, to +75 to get full point value for them. You get 25% of an item's journal value otherwise. :^) :^) :^)

Wiz 3 planning to go into necro 2 here.

What do I do for the two free ranks?
Linker 2? Thaum 2? Kino 2? Combination of them?

>>143934875
link2 or link1thaum1

>it's yet another poser anon trying to make an avatagfag from way back who-knows-when relevant but fails too hard to show any evidence on the contrary episode

>>143934875
Either Link2 or Link1 Thaum1

>>143934875

Linker is good for solo necro.

Don't take linker to 2, it's pointless.

>>143934982
>>143935012
Thanks!

>>143934838
Shit, time to reroll.

>>143934724
>Archer
>Hitting a swordie

Nice try disinfo

>>143932327
I am online now if you'd like to play. You can also add me on Steam if you wish. I am level 31.

Anyone got any info on pros/cons of this build. Or if I at least won't be horribly broken going corsair?

Currently S1 Pelt1 Hop2

Deciding between Corsair2 Dragoon or the cookie cutter Hop3 Doppel Dragoon

Want to try Corsair for dual wield, better costume.

>>143935832
>Corsair
>dual wield

I don't know if I got you right, but every single class in this game can be a dual wield, Anon. Unless you're talking about DWA, which is fucking shit.

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>>143933239
She didn't know what she was getting herself into.

>>143935343
What are you even talking about

>>143935832
Corsair1-doppel-dragoon

Good farming, muh hook and still has dragoon damage.

>>143936175
Tags : Gangbang, Rape

>>143923608
We're getting icon fixes and info graphs.

>>143933543
This anon is correct. I don't know why cookie cutter supports take chrono3 instead of thaum3 tbqh.

>>143933965
Kateen forest, before maintenance

Where do I buy things besides d2jsp?

>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/someone-use-a-bug-from-druid-skills-her-have-invincibility-buff-when-return-normally-character/282571
Druids literally broken. Nice game.

>>143936313
Drugs, Mindbreak, Bodyswap, Genderbender, Death, Pregnant, Ahegao, Urination, Defloration, Prostitution, Bondage, Anal, Big Breasts, Blowjob, X-ray, Double Penetration, Paizuri, Ass Job, Nakadashi, Piss Drinking, Ball Sucking, Harem.

>>143936916
Druids have always been broken since CBT.

>>143936480
Thaum falls off, hard. Chrono is eternal.

>>143937217
>double damage falls off hard
(You)

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r8 don't h8

>>143937278
>Double damage

Uh, what? They don't give double damage. You know some of us have real damage values.

>>143937393
>hunter3
i personally think it's wasted but i wish you nothing but the best to become the ultimate beast master.