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No hype left edition.

>Prophecy league information
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663440

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Rough mapping guide (ignore IIQ advice if it's still in there)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1489756

Last Map: >>143617669
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first for pvp
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Reposting

>trying to help my friend do his challenge at the last minute
>the only bottleneck is Darsia Perandus
any tips? we've just been running maps for days
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>>143742569
lurk /global 820 and pray
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>>143742569
Reposting

>merc solaris 1&2, I went 16/16 guardians there.
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>>143742569
You don't need to clear maps to get him, he's not gated by a tier of maps like tantalus or whatever his name is afaik
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let poeg die
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>>143742468
>>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4
Still not updated
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>>143742939
No guardian is gated by anything, they all have a very small chance to guard perandus chests.
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>>143743152
"no"
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>>143743558
it's for the better
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Can somebody explain something to me?

Shavronne's Wrapping seems good, but Solaris Lorca also seems to achieve everything Shav tries to offer, why is Lorca never even considered a build and Shavronne going over 50 exalts?
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>>143745926
Solaris Lorica is armor, and not that much of it.

People still use it to transition to shavs if they don't want to jump from something else
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PoE needs an offline single player mode
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>>143746468

Last time that was suggested the devs had an autism attack.
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Is this a good hybrid BV poison occultist build?

poeurl.com/DXn

Plan on using LGoH for life, life leech for ES.
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>>143746610
>hybrid

nope, it's bad
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>>143746524
Any links?
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>>143746787

Not really, but oh god it was mixed in with the ascendancy butthurt. I can sum up

>Muh netcode
>Muh predictive gameplay
>Desynchs are a way of life deal with it
>If you can't handle the game play something else and don't forget to buy our cosmetics goyim
>Offline is literally impossible on our system jeez none of you autists understand how this works.
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>>143746639
>5k life + +2k ES

why is that bad?
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Hey I just returned to the game in 2 years, why is Poison so preferred nowadays?

Why would you prefer a dot when you can kill mobs in 1~2 strikes? Am I not understanding something?
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>>143747102
50% MORE damage to bosses
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>>143747180
Is bossing ever a problem? I played Flamestrike before when it first came out and like 3 flamestrike would kill high map bosses
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>>143747037
Because you're gimping your build by using two forms of life gain badly rather than one well

Same with your HP pool
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>>143747102
no limit to stacking, thus scales with attack/cast speed
double dipping
read the wiki
it's very easy for a poison support to become a 100-200% more multiplier against single target
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im gonna leave the scion in the cage, no point rescuing her this league
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What map bosses are on par with merc Malachai?
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>>143747507
you only need to rescue her once
fucking retard
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>There's a bug with the labyrinth ladder that's been out ever since 2.2.2c deployed. I made a forum post about it nearly a month ago, but I still haven't gotten a reply from GGG nor seen any mention of it being fixed in any patch notes. A few other labyrinth ladder racers posted in that thread, mentioning that something weird was definitely going on with the ladder as well.
>Basically, ever since 2.2.2c, the ladder sometimes takes off around 20-70 seconds from your time. In my forum post, I posted a link to a video of a run that I streamed where my timer clearly showed that I finished a run in ~2:26, but it came up as 1:59 on the website.
>With that in mind, I'd guess that's what we're seeing in the OP. I only did a handful of runs today and got 3:20 (without the bug occurring), and I'd guess that I could improve that by maybe 30 seconds, which could show up as a time around 1:30-2:00 if the bug occurred.
>EDIT: I started doing a few runs, since I noticed that I lost rank 1 on PSC Merciless. On my first run I got 3:22, which came up as 2:19 on the website, so the bug definitely still exists :/.
don't worry about no race season, at least you have the labyrinth :^^^^^^^^)
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>>143747836
>implying anyone in poeg races
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i datamined the 2.3 patch notes and it says here everything is shit
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>>143747252
I thought BV worked well with life gain on hit?

Having 7-8k hitpoints isn't possible on a life build, and ES builds can't use non-ES chests like the new curse+poison chest.
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>>143749208
Hybrid isn't bad with dual cybil's, but that implies you go Necromancer with BO uptime, not Occultist, otherwise you're just dual wielding 2 mediocre claws
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WHERE IS FREEPOSTER
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>>143749208
>Having 7-8k hitpoints isn't possible on a life build
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>>143749628
hardly possible with a witch start desu
you need to go BM for that
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>>143749475
oh nvm, forgot the LGoH gem was for attacks only.
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>>143749676
Going BM will probably be really popular on witch this meta

BM + dual consuming dark + troll shavs
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>>143749769
Technically you can use CoC cyclone for the LGoH part. But that would require building for crit.
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Consider this a work in progress.

You still have a week to post your submissions.
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>>143750048
BASED
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>>143750048
Make an imgur folder so you don't have to shrink the pics so much, senpai.
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>>143750121
Sure, I can make an album closer to release.
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>>143750048
Don't make them so small, all the little details are getting lost.
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>no talisman mod for zana this league
fuck, rigwald sword would fit so nicely into my build
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What do you guys think of my life regen ED Scion build concept for 2.3?:

>13.2% life regen from tree
>boots can get up to 2% life regen from map lab enchant
>6 frenzy charges with blood dance (3% life regen)
>4% life regen from a sulphur flask
>30% increased life regen if you killed recently with DoT from Ascendant Trickster

(13.2+2+3+4)*1.3 = 28.9% life regen if I killed recently and with frenzy charges and sulphur flask up

I plan to have around 7k life so I should have 2k life regen when fully buffed
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>>143749869
>BM with a build that doesn't have mana issues
nigga wat
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>>143750048
based
reddit ain't got shit on poeg memes
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>>143750357
literally 0 damage

kill youa're self
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>>143750419
it's for the troll mantle...
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normally i share my builds before a new league but not this time

you can all go fuck you'reselves
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>>143750476
it's possible to reserve less than 65% mana, you know?
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>>143750464
I could easily go RF with so much life regen, and 6 frenzy charges is a 1.24 damage multiplier, not to mention I have a reasonable ~350% inc damage from tree
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>>143750476
>Low Mana is a condition that applies when the player's mana pool falls below 35%.
You can take an aura or two and still be way above 35%

Depends more on your build, too. But main reason for BM is for builds with sustain issues, like EA.
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>>143750570
>>143750583
What aura do you need for flameblast?
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>>143750691
what do you need your brain for?
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poison storm call inquisitor?
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>>143751196
>poison
>inquisitor
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>>143751196
Do you understand how poison works? Only phys or chaos damage can poison. For you to convert lightning to chaos, you'd have to use something like Voltaxic, which is going to be a incredibly poor choice for Storm Call. You also want less duration for Storm Call so it can feel more instant, and more duration for poison since it scales off duration. So no, your idea is incredibly retarded
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Let's discuss 2.3 meta. What will be the most op builds?
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>>143751558
poison memefall trapper
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>>143751558
voltaxic poison spark
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>>143750557
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reminder ascendant is still going to be top tier and people are burying her too quickly because they don't get their free 7th and 8th leech/pierce link anymore
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>>143751630
voltaxic is gonna get nerfed though, right?
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>>143751823
you can nerf 2 million dps but it's still not going to be enough
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>>143751789
I tried to figure out some strong combos, but there isn't much synergy to be found beyond the main 2/3 combos. Leech was the big one for casters.
It will take a while to find a good use for them, and even then it will just be niche builds.
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>tfw practicing running maps on an SC character to survive HC
>still die unreactable deaths out of nowhere

How do I git gud in this? I ran a map with a pretty huge damage modifier to monsters and it was fine except the area boss literally one-hit me which I didn't expect. I'd be mad as fuck if I had just lost a HC character here but I'm not sure how to avoid this without losing a character to pretty much every situation before learning what is deadly.
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>>143751789
I think the option to jump to another class' starting location is not really viable in most cases. There might be one or two builds that actually make use of this mechanic and I think that's what the Scion was meant for in the first place but I think most people will end up going for +40 strength or some shit like that.
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>>143752068
most common sources of people dying in hc:
1) overconfidence, underestimating map mods, etc
you're going to get wrecked if you run crit vuln double damage maps sooner or later
2) not enough ehp
pretty straightforward, stack life or es
3) not enough mitigation
tabula isn't going to cut it unless you're really comfortable with being a ranged glass cannon
4) poor flasks
people don't know how to roll flasks and you see level 90s with shitty flasks
learn to roll your basalt, granite, or whatever, learn to prepot and you will survive most of physical bursts
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>>143752068
>know mobs/bosses and their abilities
>learn what kind of damage your build can and cannot deal with
>learn to anticipate the perfect storm (map mods, rare mods etc)
it's really just experience and game knowledge combined with havig good reaction time
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>>143752195
Is there a must-read tutorial for this kind of stuff? I am 99% sure my flasks suck but I wouldn't even know what I'd want to roll on them except something against bleeding and maybe freezing because I sure die to that occasionally. I still feel like it'd be impossible to prepare for every contingency.
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I can't be bothered to look at the ascendancy tree changes, what are the good ones?
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Any chance I can get a free facebreaker from a kind anon?
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>>143752384
staunching is the only must have because corrupting blood and some rare cases of puncture will bleed you to death in 2 seconds, otherwise it's all situational

if you have a high amount of hp, it will be hard for you to get shocked or frozen

nothing wrong with having several different flasks for different map mods, for example I'd never go into a t13 map with +100% added lightning without an utility flask of grounding to make sure I never ever get shocked
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>>143752359
lol i was so mad when i was pushing the 2 week ladder in sc and that beyond boss killed me and i lost like 5 hours of exp
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>>143752445
reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4l6pc8/every_23_ascendancy_change_before_and_after

in short, elementalist, slayer, juggernaut, berserker and pathfinder got some juicy buffs

ascendant got GGG nerfed (her berserker is pretty damn shitty now, on top of coming with a 5% inc damage taken penalty)

others got minor nuffs/nerfs

occultist left unchanged

everyone gets +2 points
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>>143752068
what map mods were there? crit and boss damage are the most rippy ones if you don't have enfeeble (reduced crit mult), some will one-shot you even with 6-7k life

i got crit'd for 6k life by the fire ribbon shield charge in a bazaar map once
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>>143749507
she's asleep

I put my penis in her vagina last night if you catch my drift
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>What GGG should be doing
work on better graphics for the game

>What they're actually doing
nerf the most fun builds and buff a bunch of boring builds
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>>143752915
>she
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>>143752850
Yeah I think it was more crit, increased critical rates and extra damage as cold on top of that. I know it was a dumb combination but the map itself went pretty smooth so I figured I'd give it a try.
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Anyone just making a bladefall miner occultist and getting ez 100 and achievements? doesnt look like they're nerfing shit since VMS and spark is on the radar.

>literally get to sell achievements like dual daresso/dual kaom kills for 30chaos orb x 4 party members
>sell atziri kills(as in just the kill) for 10-15c per person as well, at least early on
>run any fucking map you want, perhaps aside from no-regen since it's a bitch on mana

You can get a hundred exalts in the first 2 weeks and sell it for like 700 forum gold(10bux) each while still hitting your goal of level 100 top 1-20 and all achievements done.
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>>143752917
there are a bunch of performance improvements coming on release
you sound like a vms babby who is just buttmad his op build got nerfed and don't want to play anything but
deal with it
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>>143753036
joke's on you, I was only pretending to be retarded
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>>143753025
>playing mines
>ever
I'd rather kill myself or play totems
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>>143753025
i rather play something more interesting and not faceroll through content
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>>143753025
Definitely running this but no idea what to do for gear/passive tree
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>>143753025
>100 with mines

ughhhhhh dude
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I want to play something fun this league and not become glass cannon late game.

I thought about crit flame totem or SC discharge juggernaut. I'm also pretty new and did shit late-game this league, so I want to fix it now. Can you recommend me something?
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>started playing yesterday
>picked templar
>tfw ugly as fuck
When do I unlock trousers?
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>>143753974
lol
>>143754320
lol
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>>143753432

hope youre not implying theyre slow

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qcSvhG15Yg

just auto hotkey shift.

S-D screen cleared.

repeat a few times per map.
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>>143753025
I'm gonna do selfcast bladefall occultist because mines are tryhard as fuck
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>>143754447


and that was a trapper.

miners are way better.
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>>143754320
Hahahahaha
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>>143754565
wouldn't miners have much less range?
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>>143753025
I have no faith left in GGG's """""balance"""""" team if they don't at the very least address the issue of poison/double dipping for traps/mines, people have been complaining about how broken it is for months
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>>143754447
>>143754565
i got to lv96 with poison bladefall trapper so i know how strong it is and t's not exactly slow, but i guess i justt burned out on that play style so i went "ugh" thinking about going to 100 with it

how are mines better?
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>>143754486

>raped by reflect
>much more mana intensive
>very weak at double dipping(cause no +260% mine damage from nodes)
>have to manually aim compared to mine auto targetting
>can't pre-cast 9 ultra powerful mines before an uber/vaal temple trio/izaro/etc pull (aka 1mil+ damage)

well, at least you're having fun.
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>>143753164
this
what's the point of playing the game when everything dies to one hit
what's the fun in that
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>>143755003
atleast there's the illusion of being good at the game
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>>143754648

mines will cast bladefall on any hostiles you see on your screen.

You don't need to fucking aim the mines at moving target or miss cause of desyncs.

bladefall with inc aoe(and the witch's aoe nodes) hit like 80% of the screen as it's aoe, so you can actually ofscreen mobs even though the mine was planted on your feet at the centre of the screen.

Traps need enemies to actually step on every single one of them for full effect (or take the saboteur node, but saboteurs are gimped shit vs occultists).

traps have a 2.40 sec cooldown each even with full talents.

Traps need 4 green gems which means you spend an extra 1700 chromatic orbs on your 6l ES chest, as opposed to mines that use 4blue 2 green. Big issue on starter leagues.
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>>143755113
6l 700+ es vaal regalias don't drop like candy either
both have their gearing pros/cons
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>>143755239

you're still gonna spend 1300 chromatics when you 4-green that necromancer garb or whatever "sub optimal" 6l chest that drops.

hybrids have far weaker potential and have a shittier time getting good rollls (lol flat evasion added in the affix pool fuck you).
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>>143754565
>mines are better
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>>143755812

>trapcucks are getting riled up
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>>143755113
>desync
>current year
umm, poetards?
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>>143755113
>4 blue 2 green on mines
Shouldn't the setup be bladefall+poison+mine and trap damage+remote mine+conc effect/increased aoe+minefield?
that's 3 blue 3 green.
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>>143755079
>being good
there's a difference between viable and faceroll
you can still have fun with a suboptimal build
you might not be able to do certain map bosses or atziri etc but not everyone is after that
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will pathfinder tornado shot work?
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>>143756257
sure
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What's it worth?
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>>143755812
traps are better for general map clearing
mines are better for boss killing
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>>143756081

bf + poison = green.
controlled-remote-minefield-inc aoe(conc eff) - blue

swap remote mine + minefield for trap+multiple trap = 4 green 2 blue for trappers.
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>>143755113
You forgot to mention mines have the less-than-1-chaos unique Tremor Rod that's a pseudo 6-7 link that lets you detonate mines twice.
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>>143756257
if it doesn't use a pierce gem it is shit in the current meta
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>>143756373

mines already do such retarded overkill damage i'd rather just keep the 300-400 ES shield with bonus res and some blocking.

Can already insta gib vaal/trios and almost insta finish every atziri phase, whats the point
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>>143756368
controlled destruction over trap and mine damage?

but it doesn't double dip
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>>143754736
Pretty new to this game/genre, why do people care so much about balance? As far as I can tell it's pretty much single-player... people don't like that there are easier builds that the ones they use?

Not a troll question
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>>143748054
desu
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>>143756564

Thought it was only nodes that double dip, not gems.

Well ok then.

3 green 3 blue is still only like 200 chroms(guesswork) vs 4 green 2 blue which is 1300-1700.
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>>143756332
poe.trade
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>>143756580
Since some skills are really bad in comparison, even though they can be way more fun, it is actually retarded.
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only demi winners are allowed in poeg
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>>143756580
it's an economy-based game

nothing you do is in a vacuum unless you're solo self-found

if you give a bunch of children shiny colorful toys and other children a bunch of dirty mudballs, then the latter group gets upset the first got all those shiny colorful toys that they don't get access to
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Newbie Question:
Say I have a Split Arrow gem supported by a Lesser Multiple Projectiles gem.

The lesser projectiles gem says it does 24% less damage. Will this only effect the added projectiles, or will all of my split arrows be effected?
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>>143756081
>linking poison instead of a MORE multiplier xD
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>>143756721
All your arrows.
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>>143756779
Well that kinda sucks.
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>>143756741

>takes a 40% more multiplier
>instead of poison, which easily does 120% of original damage over 2 seconds

looks like we got a retard in our midst!

>i-i-i-i-i was only p-p-p-p-rpertnending!! TRROLLED HEHEHE
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>>143756721
Split arrow has LMP built-in, that's why you use it. SPLIT. ARROW. Why would you ever link it to LMP? to gain 2 extra projectiles when you have 6 already? 2/10 for triggering me with your stupidity
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>>143756897
Certain weapon allows all you're hits to poison, enables using whirlibg blades and has 60% inc. Spell dmg at max roll.
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>>143756081
>>143756368
>minefield

didn't it get its double-dipping nerfed hard?
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>>143756721
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>>143756997
I donno, I was hoping it would be a cool synergy. I guess I could toss it on my Siege Ballista. Seems like LMP is better for projectiles that do some kind of status effect

I just got Rain of Arrows and I kinda like that better anyway.
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new players should be forbidden to post here until they have at least 6 months of game experience

this isn't fucking reddit
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>>143757212
This. It's enough we have to put up with shitcrows.
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>>143757024

>giving up your offhand for an extra support gem slot
>losing 400+ base ES, resistance/int/hhigher blocking
>but at least I can overkill even harder!! yes!!

gud character m8, you a ziggyD fan too?
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Guys calm down.
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>>143757037

>minefield
>lose 20% damage
>but now you do 3 bladefalls for 240%

the fuck are you even gonna replace it with?

boss killer
> mine damage - minefield - poison - conc effect - remote mine

still beats controlled destruction.
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>>143757667
No I am fucking sick of these retarded faggots coming in and asking for help on the simpliest shit.

Go to reddit with the rest of the other retarded mouthbreathers for fucks sake. We are an advanced community with advanced skill and we want to talk about endgame shit not retarded "newbie" shit
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>>143757212
gonna have to agree with this. i can't stand /poeg/ before new leagues... fucking noobshitcrows irritate me to no end. not even joking

fuck off noobshitcrows. go play the fucking game before you spam /poeg/ with stupid questions
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Which GoT house are you guys in? Lannister for me
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>>143757929
i'm house fuck off
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>>143757863
>simpliest
lol'd
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>>143758080

Look at this question >>143756721 and tell me its not pathetically fucking simple.

This braindead moron cant even fucking read so he just asks because redditculture has taught people that if you are too fucking retarded to know something just ask and no one will say a mean thing cause then they will get downvoted.

Seriously as a community we need to make an agreement where we ignore retarded questions like this before we become Reddit2.

I'd say we require a full set of uber kills and at least level 95 before asking a question in this forum.

I am dead fucking serious too
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>>143757457
Hehe, you won! Well argued :^)

Because everyone knows you can't use CD in mainhand, right?
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>>143758306
i agree with you
just laughing at your spelling
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Started playing like last week and been reading many resources. For the next league I want to try Contagion/ED witch, as I've heard it's pretty good for selffound and shit.

I made this tree, I'm new and I'm sure it's pretty shit, so please point out in which I fucked up.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMBAN-wghB88H6hj6Zp2ESrVa4snCt4ES0fx3yDLYvr7m0Zpwgc3CL0j0a4k48abAuboSj6kyf314LHf8bviFKv-egRlvk3u01BhwceDkjXz91ftz6VLl3ytzBJsWf8_grw1SsKFAnyRdi9j_pJUREvE2064TWSXEDrYyaIplf-j4fLtUhN46ebdoJ1nsgMzxW00Ra_D6tqjCSL9W_DOsgUieCbtaLZ5lhfsITFsNiTH8pKSRNvnvGzS1fA45EHQnp6cL6KoS-DCbGQLai-gA==

Also I'm not sure about life vs energy shield, how do I decide on that?
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>>143758436
sorry when I get passonate about something I have trouble spelling because my brain types faster than my fingers
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>>143755113
I wanna build this, but with life instead of ES to save costs.

Carcass jack is cheap as fuck, the only expensive items i wanna spend currency on are bino's and heretic's veil (i'll use them on my meme assassin later on).

Hybrid should work, no? I can switch between ES and life regen using that zealot's oath flask.
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>>143758306
preach it brother
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>>143758478
>self found
Is it really that hard to engage in trade?
Why does every second player suffer from fucking social anxiety. Fuck.
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>>143758524
iktf bro
just take a deep breath or have a fap if you get too mad
only another week of putting up with this shit
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>>143758607
I didnt find any gold yet for some reason. I gues you get it at higher difficulties
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>>143758686
>gold
Nigga what
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>>143758686
>I didnt find any gold yet for some reason.
r/pathofexile is sending us their best clowns today it seems
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>>143758478
>self found
>jewel nodes
umm...
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>>143758607
ugh sorry I meant self found as in I don't have any shit from some other character like the leveling weapons people keep recommending in guides

I will trade and shit, I thought selffound meant "starting with the stash empty" or something
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>>143758607
i suffer from social anxiety irl, but i don't have a problem copypasting a poe.trade preset whisper and saying "ty" afterwards

but then again if the buyer goes like "hi :) you have this item on sale.. :)" i just ignore them
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>>143758820
selffound refers to those people who literally refuse to use gear found by someone else
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>>143758686
>>143758820
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>>143758532


Up to you I guess, getting 8-9k ES isnt really hard.

7k life + acrobatic + vaal grace and pots is pretty good survival.

Then again 9-10k ES plus 2-3x vaal discipline(15k+ es and 5000+ uninterruptible regen) lets you survive the most ridiculous shit.
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>>143758939
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path of c _ _ _ s
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>>143758478
you managed to fuck up your tree at least 9 times, which is no small feat in a 96-point tree
you do realize you need more than 100% maximum life, right? why beeline to the scion life rectangle if you're going to ignore every single life clusters along the way?
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>>143759238
I like you.
If I ever need someone to look over my build, I'm going to ask you.
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>>143759238
im sure you made perfect trees when you had less than 20 hours played

i also dont know the sweetspots of hp values or whatever yet

thanks for the image and taking your time tho
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>>143759501
Don't be a cunt. He is taking the time to help you out. If you want advice here you have to accept you are shit and act accordingly. Be humble in your noobness.
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>>143759501
beeline to life clusters, then beeline to damage clusters

it's not a difficult concept you need thousands of game hours to get

even if you were a shitcrow not understanding the concept of getting life nodes, there's zero reason to waste 10 points to travel to the scion life rectangle while skipping efficient life clusters such as heart and soul, blood siphon, blood drinker and so on
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>>143759501
armour based builds: +200% life
evasion/acro builds: 150% life
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>>143759049
How's this?

poeurl.com/DYC
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>have been playing ranged/caster for 5 leagues in a row
>want to play melee for a change
>only have eq or reave to pick from which are just AoE skills with the melee tag
>want to play something else but all that is left are either namelock skills, undeveloped trash, or flicker.
Guess I'm gonna be a ranger again...
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>>143758478
You're going to want to kill you are self if you try to play that tree as-is.

A few glaring issues:
>No AOE
>Lack of Blood and Soul node and efficient life nodes in general. I don't know why you reached so far around to get to the life on kill nodes near Scion as opposed to getting the notable near Shadow and putting the points you've freed up into more life.
>Wussy investment in energy shield, with nodes like that you'll be playing a life build with no real defences.
>Lots and lots of stat nodes. Generally keep these, especially ones you're not using a lot such as Dex to a minimum.
>Large amounts of damage nodes. Essence drain does good easily-scalable damage already.

With a witch anything you're probably going to be better served going CI rather than trying to make a life build work. Not a cancer first attempt, but you have improvement to do.
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>>143760025
>want to play melee but don't want to play melee
lol
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>>143760025
>not going shield charge in prophecy
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>>143760081
>namelocking/taping down your shift key is the true essence of melee gameplay

>>143760158
nigga I just might
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>>143760350
shift clicking's for shitters, real men play real melee (with an aoe component): static strike, ice crash, molten strike
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>>143760439
>shift clicking's for shitters
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>>143760439
Static and ice crash are outperformed by EQ, while molten strike is just good for leveling or coc if you're making a joke build.
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>>143760539
>no poop coming out of the crow
Anon pls
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>>143760663
there's a good pot on reddit about the poor state of melee scaling at the moment
meanwhile ranged has multiple more multipliers
i don't really play melee, but i feel for you guys who have an even harder choice when it comes to trying to come up with a viable build because you can just slot in eq and it will always be better
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>>143761209
melee 2 handers have better top end dps than ranged 2 handers
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Spell totems being buffed!
My flame surge totem build is going forward bb!
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>>143761648
they're buffed at lower level to ease leveling up with them and barely at level 20
you might squeeze 1k more dps, big fucking deal
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>>143761648
>flame surge
nice no aoe
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>>143761352

Yeah, too bad about the whole ranged having 8% base crit thing and way better crit nodes.
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>>143758607
Trading mechanics in this game are retarded and solo self-found is the only hardcore thing in this game. LMAO at the self-important retards thinking they are the shit playing hardcore when reality they get carried by a party and skip any challenge by trading.
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>>143763184
word
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>>143763184
>i'm a special snowflake cos i play self found, look at me, look at me!
nobody cares
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1 eq juggernaut
2 ice trap saboteur
3 kinetic blast deadeye
4 blade vortex pathfinder
5 shield charge gladiator
6 flicker strike trickster
7 molten strike raider or chieftain
8 whispering ice occultist
9 replay secret op build
0 call your ISP
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What's a good Ranger build (no melee please I'd play duelist or shadow if I wanted that)
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>>143763550
frost bolt
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>>143763184
Is it me or is the only hardcore thing about poe being able to play the game without having a shitfit about what is hardcore or not on here?

Literally nobody can do it.
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>>143763695
shitcrows are subhumans and should be treated,like such at every opportunity
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>>143763550
Poison blade vortex pathfinder is like pottery
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>>143762224
>what are crit staves
why would you go crit on the left side of the tree otherwise
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>>143763403
rolling
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>>143758306
I didn't belive asperger was real before
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>>143618173
>FREE
>R
>E
>E
>>143631187
>free
>>143649020
>free
>>143650601
>FREE
>>143654253
>free
>>143678996
>free
>>143707083
>free
>>143707471
>free
>>143707978
>free
>>143718502
>free
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>>143764374
you're late, what took you so long?
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>>143764553
was laying in bed enjoying my warm feet
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>>143763695
2 be eich i think when it comes to builds and play style, i think mathil is way more "hardcore" than the actual hardcore players
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>>143764754
are they sweety?
post pics
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>>143764839
>plays glass cannons
>kill everything before it kills you or you die
>hardcore
umm, poetards??
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somehow this game is less shit than warframe
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Why would you post in a general for a game if you hate the game the general is talking about?
PoE has problems, but it's still the best ARPG ever made by far.
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>>143767062
lol
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>>143766002
quite sweaty and smelly, probably dirty as well
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>>143767965
pls post pics
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>>143768025
I have nothing to do that with.
no phone no camera no webcam
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>>143768025
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>>143767062
ok chris
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What differentiates a trap from a girl?

Also is a CI Reaver ever viable on 3 month leagues? starting out
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1~2 secret OP build
3~4 2h melee berserker flicker
5~6 oro's berserker flicker
7~8 crit berserker flicker
9~0 zippo
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>>143770248
Just start spellcaster like everyone else, it's easy to level a melee character once the league is more than 2 weeks in. You also wanna have currency ready for those gg weapons.

Bonus points for using a spellcaster that shares expensive items with your future main.
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>>143770503
>flicker on a berserker
>can't blood rage because no regen from vaal pact
rerolling for you m8
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>>143770728
>Don't get any chaos resist
>Pop doedre's elixir
>100% life steal for 4 seconds
combined with 85% FREE attack speed on the tree it's going to destroy at least for Oros
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>>143770757
kek
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>>143752481
gonna assume phc unless otherwise notified, ign nastykyle got some 795% for you
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>>143752741
>berserker and pathfinder got some juicy buffs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EJ_QarIUqI
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>>143770757
Added to my collection.
Not very pleased that your's is yet another bladefall build.
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>>143770757
that bad posture... you're playing a shadow!
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Why is CA such a no damage piece of shit?

I'm rocking a +3 bow 5-linked with ca+void manip+rapid decay+pierce+lvl4 empower and drillneck and that shit does 11k tooltip dps and 13k with 5 frenzy charges, it's with a lvl 20 CA too

I'm occultist so I get -20% chaos res aura from the ascendancy but thats still horrible damage
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Does it not annoy anyone else that Witch is the class that starts with a wand as a weapon, is the closest to the wand clusters, and is thematically the class that would use wands the best but is almost the worst at actually being a wander?

If you're not going CI/LL every class but Templar is better at it than she is. I really wanted to make an Elementalist Wander next league but you essentially throw 6 passive points into the trash for starting with her.
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would you let a wraeclast refugee into your home /poeg/?
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>>143773725
kb elementalist is just as strong as deadeye
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>>143773349
Tooltip DPS doesn't factor in the damage from your cloud. If you're having damage problems with a +3 bow CA the problem is with you.
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>>143773349
Odds are your passive tree is trash.
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>>143773835
I could see it for elemental based KB but not for phys/chaos which is the better way to use KB. You get too little from the ascendancy other than the shock.
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>>143773725
What annnoys me more is that we can't whirling blades with a wand, yet we don't have the cast speed for flame dash etc.
I hate being a slow piece of shit.
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>>143772921
here's my build :^)
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>People think VMS will be viable in the next league
Have fun getting a Scold's Bridle within the first two weeks, then dealing with <100% chaos conversion.
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Best build incoming
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>>143773921
Only lvl 74 atm so there are still some damage nodes open but I guess that still wont get me a decent 30k+ cloud dps
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>>143773990
>2 golems
>double damage from fire golem
>double accuracy from ice golem
>shock
and you'd grab ele overload which is another 40% ele dmg
i think elementalist is stronger than ever
obliteration is strong, but has it's downsides
phys crit is not worth the investment anymore tbqh
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>>143775227
40% more*
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are you also constantly wasting or selling valuable items by accident? I always sell my high-level maps to the vendors by accident or confuse regals with divines and so on.
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Alright what is the __BEST__ melee build that is not EQ
Softcore only thanks
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>>143775227
>and you'd grab ele overload which is another 40% ele dmg
>noncrit wander
retard
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Hol up, lets say I have daresso's and cast on melee kill discharge as a Juggernaut, would that even work?
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>>143775227
Well, like I said Elemental KB is a bad way to go when you can just scale chaos via the added chaos gem and get more damage even without Obliteration. If I was intending to go Ele KB it might be decent to go Elementalist but I'm not so it's not.
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>>143775697
Even if it did, that would be super shit.
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>>143764374
God damn man I was worried. Thank you for posting.
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>>143775507
>elementalist gives you shock for free
>ele overload gives you 40% more dmg
>pierce and slower projectiles are also more multipliers
i don't think crit is really that attractive anymore
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>>143775835
Even with 「free」 endurance charges?
Sad.
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>>143775706
>mental KB is a bad way to g
Why not Inquisitor for ele KB?
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>>143775697
You can try, with 3 jars, malachai's loop, doryanist catalyst and EQ
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how many of you unironically play shitcore?
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>>143775892

>weapon has almost no base dps, but has tons of crit to compensate
>hurr go noncrit!!

bet you do crit axe builds as well.
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>>143776523
I am right now to get achievements I bet that makes you like double mad
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>just spend $60 on Diablo 3 but it's too boring to play
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>>143777060
Could be worse you could have bought that piece of trash Grim Dawn famalam
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>People hype up Berseker
>See patchnotes
>They had 100% lifesteal before
>Only their condition changed from 20% to 15%

Uhhh..... with Vaal Pact that literally makes no difference doesn't it?
Unless you get 1 shot by a hit, a 15% damage or a 20% damage doesn't matter, since if you have vaal pact on a berserker before the patch you would have healed it instantly anyways

Is the Berserker hype a noobtrap? or am I missing something here?

>>143776523
I play SC since HC forces you to play streamlined streamer fotm builds that are unfun and kills creativity. Props to people that actually builds their own build though
But seriously fuck people who play fotm shit on shitcore
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>>143775892
>elementalist gives you shock for free
so does 95% crit

>ele overload gives you 40% more dmg
crit multi easily gives you 5 times more than that

just go assasin for 95% crit with no investment instead of falling for memes
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>>143777186
I already did.
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>>143777229

its for bosses you dumbshit.

Big difference between leeching 100% of 100k dps instantly vs 2% or so of it.

Theres nothing else to take anyway for the 8th skill point

>hurr il STOP doing any actions to heal myself for 25% instead! totally worth it instead of regenerating 25,000 life in .25 seconds!
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>>143777229
Yes, it's a noobtrap.
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How do I travel from Marauder to Vaal Pact without taking retarded nodes?
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>>143777726
Yeah but the 100% leech was there before the patch, 20% damage to trigger or 15% damage to trigger literally makes no difference
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>>143777823

Depends on build.

A sparker just goes north and around, you can still get 200% life, 280%ish lightning/spell/projectile damage, 25% cast speed , the pierce nodes, 2 jewel sockets and acrobatics at level 95.

pretty surprised, I thought he'd be a gimped piece of shit.
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>>143777938

There are dangerous things as well that does multiple instances of 1k damage as opposed to 1400.

You also get 50% damage as a buff, so even if you didnt need the leech, its at least equal to a 10-15% multiplier.
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>>143777229
using doedre's elixir 10%remove life as chaos damage with -60% chaos resist you will take the 16% than trigger CoS and gain 3 charges per use. Free damage, life leech and attack speed.
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>>143778393
I get that, but it seems just a little too hyped, was it underrated before? Or are people underestimating how shit the path to vaal pact is?

>>143778507
you coulda done that before with little bit of a setup but much worse, but now it would be optimal I guess, but Doedre charges up slowly + lasts 4 sec I wonder what builds actually work with this, Reave?
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>>143776523
>SC for leagues
>HC for races
Clearly the best options.
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>>143775706
i've never played kb before
what auras would a chaos/phys ander use?
there's no point going crit cos chaos doesn't do anything when it crits, right?
do you just use added chaos and poison as support gems?
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>>143778738
I think Cloaked in Savagery just encourages lazy play in the sense that don't dodge anything and just take damage in the thick of things. What doesn't one shot you will make you immortal theoretically.

OR if you flip the mentality around, you have to know the game REALLY well and gauge the situations in a way that you know taking the hits won't one shot you, which makes for way more active play as you can easily just die outright.

I personally think relying on that Doedre is not the best way to utilize that node unless you're running Harvest, but that's just me.
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>>143779171
Heralds for utility. Shock/freeze on crit.
Well it does more damage which is enough
Kinetic Blast, Added Chaos, Pierce, GMP, Slower Proj
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>>143779508
I prob see a nerf coming, maybe even lifesteal for 1 seconds even

What I'm more frustrated with is with how overpowered Witch is and GGG not doing shit about it (actually making them stronger) wihle not giving power to surrounding classes like Templar
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Is there a way to reduce my chaos resist?
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Rate my most """"exoctic"""" roll this whole league
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>>143779638
do you have to go crit?
it seems like there is enough phys/chaos nodes to just go non crit
i don't understand the point of going crit when chaos dmg has no status ailment associated with it
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>>143777229
Yeah I don't see the appeal either. It pretty much forces you to get VP to make the most of it, which foregoes your life regen (all-around useful for mapping and allowing an easy use of BR).

Relying on a Doedre's puts you at -50 chaos res min, which makes chaos degen all the more painful since you have no life regen and you're not CI. And you're wasting a flask slot.

Without Doedre's, this only comes to play periodically from bosses hard hits, making it situational at best. And you pretty much want stun immunity there, because being stunned = not leeching = dying.

So you dou actually get that much out of those 4 points? It seems to me you'd be better off taking Pain Reaver, War Bringer Aspect of Carnage and ironically sticking to a ranged, safe caster playstyle.
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>>143780615
Are there any actual 6B caster setups? Seems like you'd be better off using an Empower in there somewhere
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>>143780638
You go crit for more damage. Why would you not go crit with weapons that easily have 10% base crit?
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When do you guys upgrade from a Tabula?

Do you guys tech into a decent 5L? or save up into a 6L?

I always end up quitting between the transition from a Tabula and a decent chest, the last season I decided to save myself some money by getting a 6L ar/es chest for 2ex then crafting my own chest, which to my demise found out that crafting an item costs a METRIC FUCTON amount

Do you guys usually just go with a 5L?
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>>143781878
I wear tabula until I can buy a 6L with the right colors.
>>
>plan a build
>find out patchnotes aren't out yet
>mfw it could all be ruined in a few days

;- ;
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>>143781878
Celestial Justicar (if you're melee or some weird hybrid caster)
Dapper Prodigy
Chains that Bind

That's 3 ways to get an "easy" 6L nowadays, a tabula isn't worth it unless you're ranged ranged ranged and have the dps to offscreen everything.
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>>143782067
All the relevant patch notes are out.
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>>143782107
If my build involves around a insanely cheap 2h item, should I buy a 6L one and use an orb to roll the implicit? or try to link my own?

Linking literally gives me cancer

I might just swap my chest to Kaoms this time since I don't need two 6Ls
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>>143782315
Nothing about skill balance yet
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>>143781640
nvm, i'm dumb
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>>143782358
I don't see any skill changes/new skill/item changes though

>>143782107
Doesn't getting a Tabula for 20c early on help a ton though
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>>143781878
When? when i can. Try 5link uniques, woops 6link thanks rng. scouring alchemy spam Residence maps for doble pack(for dapper prodigy). 5links is okay for many melee builds before red maps.
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>>143782637
Depends on your build/playstyle I guess. I got a 5L 40% life Belly for like 2-3ex in the 2wk race. That's 40% life worth of life nodes (so 6-8 points) I can now allocate into damage nodes, and an extra 30-45 res, plus some armour/evasion, nothing huge but better than nothing. I'd stick to that 5L over a Tabula which only has the benefit of an extra link. It might have a bit more damage, but damage is not what I'm worrying about when I'm farming mid maps
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>>143782684
>Tfw I grinded the Crypt from 60 to 67 to get a Celestial Justcar and didn't get a single one
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>>143782637
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lozii-Pgpb77D4Vk1J1clM_UT0cWz35LQ3Zv3Kmf0ug/preview?pref=2&pli=1
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You know, RNG would be a little better if the game didn't revolve around Tiered Uniques.
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>>143783350
But it doesn't, the vast majority of builds could be played with rares only, and the only true, build-enabling uniques* are usually dirt cheap

* doesn't include the likes of Coil that everyone and their sister likes to slap on their character, extra phys mitigation is not build enabling, it's just a stat padding item
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What will i play to kick prohecy off?
Cyclone?
Bladefall?
Bladevortex?
Space Aids?
Cancer?
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i want to do triple blasphemy ed occultist
pls explain a noob why going hybrid is bad
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>>143783929
triple blasphemy = reserving all your mana = going EB = by definition, not hybrid
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>>143784097
no, you can get the aura nodes so you still have some mana left
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>>143784193
i guess you could make it work but you're spending a lot of points on aura nodes which do nothing except allow you to run said auras and at least some on mana regen (and even then -60 regen maps might be an issue), so is it worth it
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>>143783610
>and the only true, build-enabling uniques* are usually dirt cheap
Like Shavs, Skyforth, and Voll's Devotion?
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>>143784443
yes, i don't know if it is worth
but i want to run temp chains, vuln and enfeeble because no other defenses
also, does mana gained on kill work for ed/contagion because hard to have enough mana for clarity
or do i just use rallying cry?
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>>143784856
3 builds out of how many? Shavs is build enabling, but there are workarounds if you truly want to be LL, Skyforth and Voll's Devotion are broken items that make powerful builds more powerful, but are not build enabling
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>>143784970
Voll's is required for decent CoC discharge builds.
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>>143784931
or just go EB/ZO/MoM and solve all your mana issues and allow you to run no regen maps

or drop vuln and get damage elsewhere

vuln is "only" a +33% inc damage modifier, nothing a few stacks of wither or a vaal lightning trap can't replace for truly resistant targets
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>>143785263
good point about it only being 33% increased damage
i guess with all more multiplier support gems i don't need
also occultist reduces chaos resistance

what is a better ascendancy for life based ed then
i am not really sure what to do now
i wanted to try triple blasphemy but not really worth you are right
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>>143785749
occultist is optimal for end game LL ED

and you could still go with your initial hybrid plan and dual blasphemy curse

life-based, I'd probably go scion
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>>143785749
>>143785263
Isn't it essentially 33% more since the modifier is on the enemy and not you making it multiplicative with your damage?
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>>143786074
Yes, but the same concept applies to Wither (7% per stack, and it shouldn't take that long to apply at least 5 stacks = 35% increased damage taken by enemies) or Vaal Lightning Trap (Shock = 50% increased damage taken). My point is that you're reserving 35% mana for "only" 33% increased damage taken which doesn't scale with gem level (additional gem levels would only increase AoE for ED). Is it worth it? up for debate
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>>143786383
Ok, I was just making sure I was understanding it. Thanks.
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>>143786016
if i go scion i get occultist and which other ascendancy?
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>>143786708
dunno

trickster is all around good, with a lot of life/mana regen, evade on full es, and +20 inc damage otherwise

raider gives 4% dodge, 3 frenzy charges and onslaught which makes general mapping faster and is a direct +12% more damage

deadeye is 30% pierce and +1 proj... but I don't see it being worth it anymore
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>>143786708
If you go scion you uninstall the game.
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>>143787091
>>143787125
shit, i don't know how to build it now
i guess i still have a week to think
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>>143787254
i'd still go occultist, end game potential and that +1 curse is a boon early on, mapping is piss easy with dual enfeeble+tc blasphemy

scion looks suboptimal now, unless you're really committing to a dual class start, but her start can be good for duration clusters and curse effectiveness
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>tfw you sold your ripped char 6link for 5dollars
More p2w stash desu.
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>>143787474
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>>143787474
how many hot pockets is that
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>>143787474
Are there any actual sites you can trust with this shit or did you just sell it to your friends
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>>143787683
Was some random guy from facebook, who whisper ppl to give him free items on standart(probably shitcrow). I was saying as a joke if anyone want 6link belly for 5dollars.
Never expect somebody will be interested.
And I think i will post all my currency, items there for dollars.
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>>143787638
Like 2 or 3, but i prefer Tequenos filled with crab and guacamole'
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>>143788259
Could've gotten way more from d2jsp just sayin'
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Build time
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>>143791068
noice
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>>143789041
>check out d2jsp
>first thread I see is about this post http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10972957732
>mfw
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>>143791223
th-thanks
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>>143791068
a cascade...
of memes...
meme cascade...
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>>143792771
this is some ancient cave drawing shit
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>>143792771
>searing bond doing absolutely nothing to the monsters flame totems are shooting at
build is as retarded as its player
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>>143792952
but muh epic synergistic leddit build
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>>143792771
i like
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>>143792771
Unironically the best one so far.
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How rare is Heretic's Veil?
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>>143793685
8-12ex rare at the height of PHC
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>>143793685
3-4 ex in a league where uniques are showered upon players.
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>>143794210
>Kem !!KTXW4oOiyMh
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Holy shit MS Paint is so much better than Krita.
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>>143795302
BOTW
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>>143795302
I don't understand.
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>>143795302
>Building around flasks despite not being a Pathfinder and Harvest not being readily available.
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>>143795848
>Any of what you said being relevant
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>>143795848
What actually somewhat challenging fights involve zero mobs to gain charges from?
Atziri? Colosseum Daresso? Other inefficient for exp/hr maps?
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>>143783656
>replying to 2h old post

initially planned on summoner
then realised its probably really shit

explosive arrow
pretty sold on berserker but still a bit divided
scion was best before but it gets nothing out of the additional ascendancy points which sucks
zerker of scion nerfed to shit

any recommendations?
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>>143796416
vinktar square
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In the loot filter, is it possible to hide level 1 gems, but still show higher level ones? (still want to see gems with experience from a box)
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>>143796416
That doesn't stop the fact that your build is conditional while other characters have buffs that are constant and don't rely on On Kill effect.

Do you not get why Ascendant Berserker's change is a huge ass nerf?

>>143796348
(you)
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>>143796919
>Do you not get why Ascendant Berserker's change is a huge ass nerf?
Not much of a nerf if you can blow up a boss within 4 seconds of killing their adds :^)
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>>143797087
That literally happens with any functional builds regardless whether there are adds or not.

People keep going "lmao red map instant gib :^)))" but any functional build can do red maps at sanic speed, so the only thing you should build around is able to do any hard bosses for those meme +2 map drops.

>but just farm Dried Lakes to 100 senpai
Okay.
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1-5 tryhard poison mines build
6-0 glad lacerate with aeigs
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I tried
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>>143797417
>Dried Lakes
>Not Gorge with Pack Size Rotations
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>>143797636
My meme is better than your meme desu.
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What are some good builds to play with friends? I have one friend I duo with a lot, but he tends to grab way too little health and die a lot. I have a third friend that very occasionally plays with the two of us together (mostly on standard) and I'd like to park a character at whatever level he is just so I always have something to play with him.

Should I just make two aurabots? Or are there more interesting options to consider? I'm more interested in making the game fun for them without making it miserable for me than I am straight-up carrying them the whole time.
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>>143797715
You could make an aurabot for the dead friend. You can make someone almost unkillable.
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>>143796919
>while other characters have buffs that are constant
A LOT have ascendancies have "killed recently" buffs, what the fuck are you on about?
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Damn, facebreaker is so much fun. I hit a monster and everyone around half the screen explodes. so much damage

I doubt that this will continue though.

I just tried PVP and win easily vs 50 level with mine 39.
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>>143797856
>1% of the zerker leech is constant
>2% additional when killed

>1% scion leech is conditional

do you seriously dont understand why its worse?
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>>143797878
get out zebo
>>
>hear about new league soon
>breddy hyped
>check it out on the site
>fucking niggers everywhere

yeah. dropped. sick of niggers in my games.
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>>143797856
I said Ascendant Berseker, not Berserker.

Even in the shit that you linked, those nodes have additional benefits of when you don't kill you get other buffs that's way the fuck better than just 50% physical reflect. As for Cloaked in Savagery, it's like you haven't even read the thread and getting insanely triggered at someone calling your build idea being subpar.
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>>143798363
>he doesn't like brown girls
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>>143798290
i don't understand
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>>143791384
>There is some stuff i don't like about Poe compared to D3.
>- game is to complex so it made me feel i would have to devote too much time to it

That entire thread man.
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>>143798581
zenocidegenius often called zebo, zenocuckgenius and so on is a very bad poe contentcreater who often makes builds containing facebreakers or ridiculous ammounts of armour stacking which always turns out to be shit

also he has a very bad personality and is instantly triggered by anyhting

missing source now but he basically went on a 10minute ragespree when someone from twitchchat said his dmg was shit
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>>143799149
yeah, I doubt that my damage will be good on late levels too. you can only have so many + physical damage on items and after that it is mostly bonuses that comes from shield right?

I also played ice with a long time ago, this character looks a lot more stronger. at least for now
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>>143799149
I got your back senpai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd0OC41s2go
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>>143797715
or just a cursebot with cull
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Did they announce the ascendancy changes?
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>>143799575
facebreaker actually is a """decent""" build right now

yeah basically pick all phys dmg from the tree + life

block chance is pretty good but id rather go for rumi's to add to that

your most dmg comes from the abyssus helmet and +phys dmg jewelry though

if you dont want to use abyssus (+lightning coil) you can go for Bringer of rain as budget version but it will be WAY weaker in dmg

when something else comes to my mind i will post it later

>>143799817
thx senpai
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>>143800157
wtf they switch
f
a
m
to senpai? what the fuck?
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>>143799149
zenocidegenius is a renowned hc streamer a respected figure in the poe community who has accomplished more than you ever will, you just reek of jealousy
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>>143800157
FB IB maxblock gladiator seems like it could be decent desu
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>>143799817
>instant logging to Vaal Glacial Hammer
Is this the average behavior in HC?
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>>143800157
Nah, I will buy abyssus when I hit the level. Its damage looks insane
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>>143799817
lol that guy in chat got BTFO
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>>143800389
>>143800828
these posts are too short to be zeno
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>>143800389
>>143800828
Zeno mods?

If he'd have simply said "Fuck off this is a veil of the night build I'm trying not to die, not do massive DPS" then it would have been fine.
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>>143800389
5/7 post lmao

>>143800828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV5QFuWSqVM
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>>143801110
he banned another guy, not the guy who talked shit about his dps
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>>143763403

ROOLING
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>>143797562
based barrage?
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>>143800707
it is
but many people shy away from it because of the added dmg taken which is indeed a big drawback

with lightning coil and taste of hate this problem is ofc solved the easiest but a bit pricy

>>143800407
yeah only problem is that IB sucks dick in terms of clearspeed

cyclone still sucks i guess but not as much

icecrash is probably still the best bet

just dont forget those counterattack gems they actually do most of the clearing
(reckoning and riposte)
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>>143801112
don't ever fucking reply to me again you redditshitter
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>>143791068
Going full meme for prophecy
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>>143801341
But your idol Zeno loves reddit, shouldn't you too :^))))
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has optimization improved a lot? i haven't played since Ambush came out. i remember running into a lot of cpu related issues and particularly terrible freezes when i opened strongboxes. What's the minimum hardware I would need to make the game including end-game playable without fps related deaths?
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>>143800018
Might be fun for the three-player build. Would it basically just be linking some skill that can hit everything on screen with cull, IIR, and a few curses-on-hit?

Curse-immune maps would suck, but the extra loot would make everybody happy, and it sounds like a build that could actually be decently fun even if we level at a snail's pace.
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>>143801489
>has optimization improved a lot?
I'll let you be the judge of that yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruP7yGJu6yM
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>>143801267
Kinetic blast
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>>143801489
They've released a few optimization patches lately. Prophecy is supposed to have more optimization too, especially the sound engine.

Perandus sucks ass for lag because it floods you with 16,000 shiny gold mobs vomiting spells, but I don't think Prophecy is going to be nearly as much of an FPS-killer.
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>watching a HC death compilation

Are all these people running scripts when they immediately log out when they die?
>>
hey im new where
who are shitcrows?
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>>143802087
me and you
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>>143801639

Geez, i didn't even lag this bad in parties with CoCers on my old core 2 duo. This guy looks like he's got a pentium 4 with a gt 210.

In any case, if the situation hasn't improved I guess i'll stick to playing solo for Hardcore. I have a reasonably good computer but i don't think it's worth the risk.

Should I just play the SC league?
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>>143802087
based retard
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>>143801957
No, playing hardcore you run into close calls like that all the time, and hope you don't die. But I guess you wouldn't know that would you shitter
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>>143802149
yes
re leveling is not fun
HC is if you have time and are good.
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>>143802210
Wow man no need to get personal
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>>143802351
It's always personal with hardcucks. Watch them unsheathe their katanas.
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>>143799149
>ridiculous ammounts of armour stacking which always turns out to be shit
projectpt just spent couple hours yesterday solving equations for armor to prove zeno's shit, and he came to his chat asking if he could put his work on the website lol

pt calculated that in order to survive a 6k hit with 4k life you'd need a coil and a basalt with 3 end charges, or 150k armour lol
>>
If you die in hardcore does your character take his stash with him?

pls
respond
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>>143802562
as if those are mutually exclusive
you know you can get 30k armour, 8 end charges, and a basalt? you really think your 4k life coil caster is going to fare better against phys damage than a 8k life 30k armour juggernaut?
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>>143802175
>>143802147
is mathil a shitcrow?
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>>143802729
he's the king of them
which unironically makes him better than 90% of hardcucks
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>>143802696
he still proved his point
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BERc6ffsWECBxoNy4r5DPrzUpmubbdmzwu7LuZqAvts/edit#gid=977330395
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>>143803056
lick your lips and tell me how projectpt's cock tastes like
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>>143802880
He's a legitimately good player so of course he's better than most players. He didn't get the world first Atziri kill by being bad.
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>>143803153
amazing
>implying he isnt doing the most work with his spreadsheets and buildhelp
>implying he isnt the best hc streamer

shitcrow alert
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>>143803330
remember that one time he died to his own desecrate traps
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>>143802562
>pt
kek, that fag.

>6k hit, 4k life with 0 armour, coil, basalt, 3end charges
3,317 Damage Taken.
>6k hit, 4k life with 150k armour
1,714 Damage Taken.
>6k hit, 4k life with 4k armour
Exactly 4k Damage Taken.
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>>143803489
to a dd box
>>143803501
its damage mitigated
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>>143801521
I actually plan on playing that myself this league. triple curse with blasphemy (temp chains, enfeeble, vulnerability) and ED/contagion solo.
in party, I'll just support with something else instead of vulnerability and slam cull to some skill with inc aoe and IIR.
would definetly not recommend running curse immune maps since it's your only defense
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>five days of nothing to do
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>>143801521
>>143803910
>Curse Immune Maps are now called Hexproof
You have nothing to fear Cursebots.
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>>143804440
masturbate a lot
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>>143804469
There's no way that thing isn't going to be stupidly rare. Shit sucks, I'd definitely wear a shitty Solaris Lorica version of it if they'd thought to add that.
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>>143804469
wasn't there a difference between hexproof and curse immune?
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>>143801435
Not him but i'm pretty sure Zeno absolutely despises reddit
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>>143804895
Curse Immune is only on a few certain bosses/mobs.
Hexproof is the new map mod that replaces Curse Immune.
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>don't know what build to run

EVERY LEAGUE
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>>143804895
Everything that's currently curse-immune is becoming "hexproof" with Prophecy. They mentioned that they will have the ability to add proper completely curse-immune mobs in the future.
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>>143805120
same desu senpai
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>>143805104
>>143805164
thanks a lot boys. I read it wrong when I ran through the notes, my bad
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>>143804895
>noko
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>>143805120
SHIELD CHARGE
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>>143805164
No, things already in the game will be curse immune. Just not as a map mod.
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I've done Malachi alone before, and died repeatedly because...Lets be honest I suck on my own, I tend to play support for everyone else. Okay, that's expected. It's annoying going from almost a full Exp bar to almost none because of the absurd damage, but whatever.

But today I did him with a group, and most of them were competent players, who've been playing for a year and a half now and run multiple leagues and been waist deep in maps and Azari. Here's how the fight went.

We walked in, and all 6 of us died in the first five seconds of combat. Hentai to the face, followed by the rest of his non-sense on the two people that survived the attack.

Now I expect the damage dealers and supports to explode, okay that makes sense to a degree. But when the tanks at 80% some resistances, and roughly 80% physical reduction and more health than I'll ever have are effectively getting one-shot thats when I start questioning how reasonable a boss is. Again, I expect myself to die alone repeatedly, but...We wiped repeatedly, and in most cases within seconds of entering either arena. 'Don't stand in the fire', great we can do that, but not if the fire is literally on us at spawn. One guy in the party mentioned that this is pretty standard unless you cheese your way through, I still don't know what he means in terms of cheese, but....Is this normal for Malachi? Is he normally broken enough that you 'wipe on entry'?
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>>143805760
>reading the forum
>>
what's the most overpowered piece of shit I can play

I dont care about fun anymore I just wajt to be brutally efficient and break the game
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>>143807336
coc residentsleeper cyclone
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>>143807336
ctrl + F
bladefall miner
here you go
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What does shield charge use to calculate damage?
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>>143807336
chaos vms
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>>143805120
Same.

Only that,to make matters worse,this will be my first league since we got act 4.I barely remember the basics as it is...
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>>143807779
damage
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>>143807713

I'd play a bladefall miner if mines weren't so fucking awkward to play
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>>143806094
And that's also a thing that annoys me; It's not practice that's the problem. It's lag. I don't think I've had a session where if I'm in a group of more than 2 people, the lag is okay or stable. I know [mostly] how to avoid his attacks-- some of them are extremely annoying, since they're near instant, but I know how to avoid them. I can't do that however if every entity on screen is warping around with a 2 second delay. That's why bosses like this don't work in dungeon crawlers as far as I've seen; If it's a boss where you need to suddenly move out of the way with a short window of time, any amount of latency suddenly makes the fight a wipe fest.

And let me clarify; I mean that when we reenter the arena after a death, we die within two seconds of having invulnerability removed. This first death after you start the fight with Piety around was us being bad/laggy. We were on the edges of the map, and he suddenly lagged forward, and three of us were dead in a second, the next guy took another second, and the tanks survived but got wiped by his next attack.
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>>143807891
But it says % of damage based on distance

is it based on your total physical damage? if you add elemental damage conversion does it also increase it or is the conversion applied after?
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>>143807810
how much is a scolds typically in a non perandus league

Id play coc discharge but ive tried and it murders my framerate
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>>143808159
it says based on your weapon so i would guess it just gets a big more on it. but maybe it will be different at update
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>>143807336
CI inquisitor vaal spark
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>>143805038
Zeno has a firm belief that Reddit is a great place for discussion and loves the fact Reddit has inbuilt censorship.
His podcast is as PC as it gets and he takes considerable efforts to deflect any valid criticism directed at GGG and bans anybody that disagrees with him in the slightest.
I should also mention he is godawful at the game as evidenced by the fact that every other streamer places higher on the ladder and even ZiggyD has beat him in races/ladder numerous times but despite this he proclaims himself to be a professional player and takes pride in his ''innovative'' builds.

Also if anybody could please post the gif/webm of Zeno riping to piety with 16k es i seem to have lost it.
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>>143742043

my OC made it to OP

highlight of my year desu
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>>143808871
that was firefury wasn't it?
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>>143807713
>Mines
>Not traps
I wasn't here for the last mines/traps arguing.
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>>143809323
it was megara, the boss of crematorium
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>>143809503
yes
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>>143808871
All true except the reddit part. Zeno doesn't like reddit he has shown this numerous times on his stream.
>>
So,coming back after a long hiatus,don't know anything about ascendant classes.Any fun build recommendations (i know that the tree will be changing,but assume that it's not a drastic change) ?Caster preferred since i used to melee most of the time.
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>>143812185
>fun
This is the most vague thing. Go RF something.
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>>143812369
>This is the most vague thing
Yeah,figured as much,sorry.I always liked flashy skills,and i prefer not to be 1-button spam.
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>>143807713
Why go occ instead of assassin for bladefall with the tree changes?

Do you have enough damage already that assasin is overkill?
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>>143812185
bla
de
vor
tex
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>>143812859
Bladefall doesn't need more damage at all.
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>Level 3: Bloodlines (Cost: 3 Chaos Orbs, +20% IIQ, 50% more magic monsters, all magic packs have a Bloodline)

Perandus confirmed for Bloodlines 2.0.
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>>143813439
Prophecy, that is.
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>>143813439
It's going to be good. Maybe maps will be sustainable this league.
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What's a good build if you've starting HTR hormone therapy?
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>>143814456
support cuck
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>>143814456
wander pathfinder
>you get to play with your wand
>you're a gulpmaster
>you hate boys, or being one
>you poison on hit, poison is a woman's weapon
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>These ascendancy changes
Like

Whats the point

no new mechanics, no changes in how the game is played

its the same old extra damage or defense

why
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>>143815225
>no new mechanics, no changes in how the game is played
elementalist got another golem
>>
What do you think is the main difference between people who browse r€eddit, and people who browse poeg?
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>>143813140
Hmm was thinking about it too desu.Would it work if i went with poison too or too much trouble making it work (if it works at all).
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>>143815225
>introduce 19 ascendancy classes
>a significant number of people play maybe 5 or 6 different ones
>try to change it so more of them actually get used
Yeah, totally pointless.
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>>143815458
anime
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>>143815225
slayer got a new mechanic with bane of legends
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>>143814836
I like how well this fits.
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>>143816302
Bane?
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https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1666380
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>>143816302
Culling strike has been around for a while. This is just a better version.
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>>143816450
>5250 armor and 450 mana for 10 jewels
wow... so this is the power of jewels...
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>>143816450
Interesting, but won't be used at all.
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>>143816450
FUCK YOU BEX
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>Error: Our system thinks your post is spam.
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>>143816483
headsman give 50% less reflected damage
has this also been around for a while too?

you're pretty stupid if you keep arguing each ascendancy doesn't change the way a character is played, slightly or not, and are not just generic "lol more damage/defense nodes"
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>>143816887
I'm not that original poster. I'm just pointing out your example is wrong. Culling isn't a "new mechanic"
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>>143817032
it's twice as good as culling strike
you only need 13% damage done before you cull 3rd stage izaro with that
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>>143816787
Statues in Colosseum still have genitals
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>>143816450
The elemental one's pretty insane if you can stack 'em that high. With the multiplicative properties, they can scale out of control. Provided you can buy get that many jewels.
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>>143817315
Getting the jewel slots will be harder than the jewels I imagine.
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>>143817315
10 jewels is a fucking ludicrous amount, even scion or srs builds who stretch their tree thin for jewel slots will get 8 jewels at most

and you're dumping a potential of 70% maximum life worth for that

fucking retarded, no one will use them
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75*6*6 = 2700 base armour with 7 jewels, not bad for tabula characters desu
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>>143817315
>>143817412
Scion can get 9 jewel sockets with only 48 skill points. Using all ele jewels, that's 486 increased ele damage.
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With scion
7 jewels with only 38 points spents
can be
2700 flat armour, or 252 elemental damage, just for your shitty EA build that got nerfed
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>>143818136
what kind of abomination of a tree would grab all those jewel sockets

and you're still losing 63% maximum life no matter what from not using 7% jewels
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>>>>143818136
6%*9*9=486 elemental damage, if you add 4 points for elemental overload, 486%*1.4= 680% inc elemental damage. Only with 52 points allocated.
>>143818389
You don't need the extra life until act 3 cruel desu.
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>>143817501
>>143818140
I'm starting Berserker and I can get 8 jewels with

219% life
125% armour
125% evasion
20% area damage
18% elemental damage
55% fire damage
12% projectile damage
with 384% damage from jewels (which is a whooping 48% damage per jewel, which is closed to what you can get with a 4 affixes damage jewel).

This build finishes at 94 (or 91 if you help all the bandits). I'm next to 20% life that I can grab as well.
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>>143818389
Who the fuck needs to go for anything but life nodes when 10 jewels gets you 600 increased ele damage alone?

Table for anyone crazy enough to get 15 jewel nodes:
1 6
2 24
3 54
4 96
5 150
6 216
7 294
8 384
9 486
10 600
11 726
12 864
13 1014
14 1176
15 1350
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>>143818678
I have Elemental Overload as well.
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75*12^2 = 10800 base armour

add in a 2k chest, a 1.5k shield, roughly 1.5k from gloves, belt, boots, a 750 armour helm, and a 450 armour anvil

we're now at 17k base armour

add a granite of iron skin (100%) and +300% armour from tree

20k base armour times 5 = 100k armour with granite flask up

new botw???
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>>143815458
>>143812185
>>143800828
>>143800389
>>143802696
>>143802351
>>143785263
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>>143817501
>>143818389
>>143818136

To make them usable, they should have included .5% life per on them as well.
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234% life, 10 jewel 115 point scion tree
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>>143818998
Yeah but why do you want 100k armour, if you can avoid damage just with moving.
>>143819463
with only 2% from gem and the elemental jewel damage, you can easly get the maximum instance of leech.
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return to the rabbit website this is for hard only here
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>>143818815
poeurl.com/D3c
>15 jewel nodes/1350% increased elemental damage
>Elemental Overload
>184% max life
Naturally that's at lvl 99, so it's not going to be that powerful, but it still comes online with 9 jewels way faster.
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what kind of build needs 1350% increased elemental damage
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>>143819642
.% life, not leech.
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>>143819582
It's a nice tree that's good for nothing.
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>>143820162
234% life and 600% increased ele damage is good for anything that deals ele damage and is life based
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NEW SEASON WHEN
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>>143820040
Oh yeah, my bad.
But should be flat life instead %life.
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>>143819990
Who's ready for scientific notation numbers?
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>>143820365
i love diablo 3
much better arpg than poe
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>>143820671
scion going to be opieop
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How expensive do you think these jewels will be? Reddit seems to think they're trash. Considering we have max 78 people in here and they have 1000 people there, it's more useful to see their opinion to gauge how the prices will be regardless whether their opinion's right or wrong.
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>>143821579
1c garbage trash
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>>143821579
can you corrupt unique jewels without turning them to vaal ones?
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>>143822028
Yes.
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>these juggernaut buffs

fug
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>>143822028
Yes. There's a chance they turn into the vaal ones, but it's not 100%. At least that's how it was in warbands or whenever they introduced them.
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>>143821579
considering they get literally exponentially better the more of them you have, and that scion is the only sensible class to grab jewel slots, i don't expect them to be worth much because supply will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demand and sheeple won't play scion in 2.3
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>>143822819
>Corrupt all of them to "1% increased Chaos Damage per equipped Corrupted Item"
>50% FREE chaos damage

you could just roll 5% vaal damage and get 250% vaal skill damage
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>>143823153
jewels are not considered equipped items (that would make hidden potential stupidly good)
>free
good meme
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>>143823340
no but jewels have their own jewel implicits cant you roll 5% increased vaal skill damage and get 10 of them for 50%
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>lvl 29 flameblast with concentrated effect, elemental focus, controlled destruction, fire penetration, elemental overload, 20 jewel sockets
>636 avg damage
>636 * 12 * 1.6 * 1.5 * 1.45 * 1.4 * 25 = 929577.6 damage per cast
>Even with memes aside, 15 jewels multiplies it by 14.5 instead of 25 to get 539155 damage per cast
I think I'm starting to OD on this meme. I can't see straight.
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So
Hyaon Fury/Aegis + 9jewels + Gladiator + Lacerate

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQCAJstXzkOQwaLvniK8M1fIONs2OlGxIJf2pL3ypAKJvgChNlHfr02ZU2-pxm0apMtg0z_FSBDMdZYLOkJM8Mz2sGPYIazAO7RNloaLlN07SpN4izTbwUtPyd670rIQKCKr26qwL8hYJARtfKplXTxe8M1kngNDPcppf6P2L3AGqyvTeP-Cm87plfyRbc-OuGDzDwtg1_GrsT2r6dyqRzOPQ-sqvcyidgrUAY5WfPqGGhYDc37qho4cg_463as15b-VPMGkFWUb2ae890Ucc9-UWBmVPrSaGXZfK2NHRQWb4IHj0YkquNq8kGnCFH7NunYJM0WVkgfGCcvfLt35Q==
486% elemental damage + 48%(4frenzy*12%), 747.6% with EO

Grace + Conductivity

i gonna be the next Daresso.
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>>143821579
They are garbage. The only one remotely worth stacking is Viridian but it's still bad because
1. You need 7+ to make them give more damage than good rares which gimps your tree unless you're Scion.
2. Ascendant was made garbage tier this patch so not only are you making a shitty tree to reach jewels, you're not getting an ascendancy class.
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This shit looks very interesting. Think it will be enough to make a heavy dodge/evasion build actually worth playing?

I'll love it if so, but it'd still be bullshit that you have to use a unique just to overcome that miserable entropy mechanic.
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What time EST does Perandus end?
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>>143827287
>Still playing Perandus
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>>143827287
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665597

>This is displayed in your local time
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>>143827593
Don't fucking reply to me if you're going to use anime images. Now delete this.

>>143827654
Thanks.
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>>143827808
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>>143827808
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>>143827808
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>>143827808
can I reply with CUTE BOYS?
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>>143827808
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>poe
>f2p
>"never p2w"
>"ethical microtransactions"
>has freemium tabs
>has gambling
>will have paid content
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>>143827808
You should use a trip code so I know not to reply to your posts with anime images. You should also read up on Geiger Counter, it's pretty good desu.
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This will lag kill everyone.
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That feeling when you are done cleaning and sorting all your tabs, and by the time you wake up, they all will be merged neatly with the perm league.
I'm done with PoE until 2.4.0, gl and see you in 4 months.
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>>143831074
>plays a dead league beyond the grave
>doesn't bother to play the next one

i hope that one day you see the error of your ways
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>>143830932
Jesus Christ, I was scared enough when they announced they were adding one of those bastards as a unique boss. That looks like hell to survive.
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>>143831317
No, I was done after 2 weeks FB, I relogged those past few day just to trade a bit and clean my stash.
I won't be able to play Prophecy past the 1st week anyways, so I'll just ignore it completly.
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>>143742043
someday the hype will come back.
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>>143830932
>we heard the shitters over at pee oh gee say the game is too easy and too casual
>so we added bears
>that drop
>lots of them
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Not really sure, but didnt they make an update where if you finish merc labyrinth(while not doing normal-cruel) you automatically get all 6 ascendancy points?

Some really op classes (traps/mines) actually level slower having to do that shit early on so I was considering that.
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>>143833271
That's only for Standard characters I thought.
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>mfw all the cucks got casual from perandus are now crying about Prophecy

please go back to D3
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>>143833271
I thought that patch note means the trials are league-global, not the labs.
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>>143833502

That fucking faggot

>gonna hafta do all those shitty trials and izaro four four four four four four four times now

I mean, the lab itself is annoying enough, but having to go to the fucking catacombs and the bishops basement to find the fucking trials piss me off, its so out of the way.

esp catacombs if you dont find the marketplace waypoint which they cucked you out of from having a constant location.
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>>143833816
but d3 is harder than poe now
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>>143834171
But I finished tier 80 greater rift in my 4th day of playing a witch doctor
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>Vaal Molten Shell's duration has been reduced from 10 seconds to 5 seconds at all gem levels. Its damage has been reduced at high levels. It does the same damage at gem level 1, up to half the damage it previously did at gem level 20.
>Spark and Vaal Spark projectiles (including those from monster Sparks) are now 20% slower. Quality on Spark and Vaal Spark is now worth 1% projectile speed per point of quality (rather than 2%). The time that Sparks must travel before they re-arm has been increased from 500ms to 1000ms. Spark projectiles now destroy themselves after travelling 150 units, which is in-line with other projectiles.
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>>143834612
toppest kek
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>>143827808
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>>143834612
>150 units
So they'll be lucky to reach the edge of the screen. Holy lel
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>only MemePT's streaming
JUST
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>>143834612
spark is gutted but scolds VMS will probably still be strong
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How expensive is soul taker in a non memeleague like perandus?
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>>143835509
I thought Torment is rotated out? Getting Scolds is going to be tough, and it's not the damage that's killing it, but half the duration is pretty shitty.
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>>143835449
>not watching based jackcain
smdh
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>>143834612
>which is in-line with other projectiles
>we ruined pretty much the only thing that made spark special
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>>143836415
And do these niggers think Spark goes in a straight like "like all other projectiles"? What idiots. So Spark basically has half the range of your usual projectile.
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>>143836415
>other projectiles come with free GMP, bounce off walls, and frequently score multiple hits on the same enemy
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>>143834171
>A Blizzard game
>Hard
I don't play D3, and I honestly don't have anything against the games themselves, but is it really hard? Blizzard and Hard seem like antonyms at this point. Grindy I'd believe in an instant, overly restrictive, boring-as-all-fuck, but properly hard?
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>>143836626
>sparkbabby got btfo
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>>143834612
is this for real? absolutely #rekt
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>>143836664
>free GMP
useless when your sparks die before they even get to the enemy
>bounce off walls
with crippled range all the "pseudo-shotgunning" this allowed will basically be ruined.
>frequently score multiple hits
they're very specifically ruining this completely.

So I stand by it, they ruined the only thing that made spark special. Sure it's still "different", but they stabbed it through the heart, and all its differences just make it worse than any other projectile now.
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>>143836725
>not being a retard means you must use the skill
What sort of logic is that? I actually haven't made a serious spark build. Ever. Never touched it this league, either.

>if you highlight the flaws in GGG's poor balance changes it must be because you're a butt-blasted babby that used the skill
That attitude only fails you.
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>>143834612

spark status: destroyed
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>>143836965
>trashing a skill that allows you to clear from 3 screens away
>poor balance changes
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>>143836924
It will still clear your whole screen perfectly fine, you just won't get the next two screens over too. How completely awful.

And maybe Vaal GH will even come back to troll bosses with spark shotguns.
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>spark and vms are raped
>still do exp nerfs anyway even after raping the 2 outliers that can hit 100 in 2-3 days that no other builds could

lol, cuck wilson at it again.

I bet bladefall poison still won't get touched.
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>>143834612
Hoooly shit. Spark is back in the dumpster.
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>>143837002
finland yes
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Kuduku found his waifu
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Damnit, I'm sad. I want to try to play really efficient at the beginning of the league and hit maps the first day, but I also want to play KB.

I don't think my leveling speed will be sufficient enough with that build. Anyone with experience starting the league with a KB wander?
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>>143839301
Kudaifu?
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>>143839343
Alternatively, any suggestions on what to level with since I'll be taking mainly projectile damage nodes from a ranger start? I've never started a league non-spell and it feels like having to rely on a weapon is going to slow me down to much but maybe I'm just worrying to much.
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>>143835697
can't you get it with zana mod
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>>143839584
If you just want to stick with spells to level, projectile nodes alone can carry most projectile spells up to level 60ish with ease. The only real concern would be transitioning from cast speed/spell damage gear into KB-oriented gear.
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I don't even want to play poe anymore

All the skills are mechanically boring

I tried to figure a shield charge build but turns out it deals literally no damage

Then a mirror/blink arrow build but it also deals no damage, i don't even understand why it doesn't use socketed gems considering they are essentially totems

Summoner sucks

and the rest are variations of the same projectile/melee aoe/arrow variations

fuck
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>>143840101
>most powerful single target skill in the game
>no damage
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>>143839301
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>>143840101
poe is shit. more breaking news at 10
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>>143840101
>implying shield charge isn't slated for a massive positive change when it finally gets AoE status

>mirror/blink arrow
>no damage

>"Summoner"
>the almost infinite variations on a theme of summoner, most of which are stupidly powerful considering they take almost no gear to function

>split arrow, tornado shot, poison arrow, explosive arrow
>the same

>infernal blow, cyclone, earthquake, flicker strike
>the same
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>>143742043
Anybody knows how much PoE's bandwidth selfound consumes per hour? I might only have limited internet next month so I want to prepare.
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>>143840374
>0 damage

>Specters which are moving totems or SRS which isn't really a summoner

>Aoe arrows
>not the same

>Bunch of melee aoes

>I concede you flicker
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>>143840610
>I've literally only played a 100% spectre focused retard build
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>>143840580
you should prepare by getting unlimited
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>>143840821
>melee specters suck
>Specters don't really have skills that do anything other than damage
>Zombies without investment are completely useless
>Skeletons are bad at everything
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>>143840874
Already am, but want to make sure I'm also prepared for the worst case scenario.
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>wanting to play the poopecy league
>not just skipping it
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>>143841270
t. someone free from this hell
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this general becomes so irritating before new leagues that it actually ruins my hype. i remember when this general was full of good posters and good players and we were all having a merry time. now it's overwhelmed with ethnic redditors and shitcrows
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>>143840959
>>143840580
I just afk'd for the last five minutes in town.
It used about 125KB Down and 55KB Up per minute. Actual running around in zones with mobs will probably use more
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>>143841765
Can you pinpoint the exact moment this general went to shit?

Early July
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>>143839635
>>143706927
Yeah, you're right. I thought Torment was rotated out for some reason.
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>>143841938
when beta ended and the game was released on steam. that's when people like hanz came and brought too much attention to poeg
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>>143842018
>mfw new league is announced
>suddenly we get posts saying that reddit is good
>people admitting they suck cock on reddit
like pottery
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>>143842018
>too much attention
>less than 100 people
If you wanna circlejerk just say so fampai, I could get us started byposting some yaoi shotacon bbm furry guro dragon stuff.
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>>143841937
I think it uses more when you're seeing other players (you have to "download" what they do I guess), can you test in your hideout and see results? But yeah against mobs it should be higher.
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>>143840918
remember when undying aristocrats spectres were a thing? they had their proximity shield didn't they?
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>>143840161
Only on paper, and the mechanics of playing it are ass. With that said, I think the Prophecy changes to it will make it usable now. It won't be EQ or reave tier, but I think it'll be above shit like cleave or wild strike now
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>>143842173
Only spent three minutes in my hideout..
More or less a steady 2KB Down and 1KB up per second while in my hideout.

Did a quick two runs of Dried Lake with a VMS build.
Afk'ing near the entrance was a steady 2Down/1Up as well.
While running it was about it ranged from 10 to 30 Down and 1.5 to 2.5 Up. When I got near a Perandus Box and a nearby Shrine it spiked to 40Down and 3.0Up. All this is in KB/s.

At the very most expect 100MB Down and 10MB Up per hour while killing.
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Doing ubers early on in a new league is almost always profit right?

>2ex for set
>get 4-6 red maps that already pays for everything
>plus atziri loot, getting an axe early is worth like 10k forum gold (100$)

Any shitstain level 80 trapper can do it, even if they were so bad and died on every mirror phase, youd still have portals left over.
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>>143843486
You have no idea how much this information has helped me, thank you for doing this.
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>>143843486
>>143843672

Also this was all done in Predictive. Expect Lockstep to use more.
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>>143843710
Damn, I've not used predictive since they added lockstep, has desync on predictive really improved like Chris said?
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>>143843824
I've only personally noticed Whirling Blades having some problems in corners of indoor zones and the occasional stun interrupting movement skills. Nothing retarded like teleporting two screens over from not casting a spell in place.
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>>143844081
Yeah I remember movement skills being the biggest issue with doors/terrain so it doesn't surprise me if these are still present, thank you for your answers anon.
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>>143843593
CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW
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Is there any solaris lorica tier unique for a Voll's equivalent?
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>>143844482

>dat butt fissure
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Any good item spreadsheets out there? Something like https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DjGcgUebJ3HdvqZu5wxNjXZYAMccMJLBLNZjBOE2-vU/ but actually up to date.
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Just died like 15 times in the process of beating merciless Daresso. What the fuck is up with him and Kaom in merc
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>>143844887
Hierophant ascendancy has a ghetto Voll's Devotion notable.
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>>143846484
don't stand in his swords NOOB
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>>143846484
After he gets low (below 30% I think) his "rage" will last forever, you can't wait for it to wear off, just shoot at it until it dies I guess.
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>>143846484
Just do him in a group. In between totems and golems and curses neither of the bosses barely do anything before they die.
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>>143834612
ELEMENTALISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>he fell for the MoM meme
>he fell for the Hierophant meme
>he fell for the Cobalt Grand Spectrum meme
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>Increased the attack time of Whirling Blades by 18%. Its previous default attack time was 2.2 seconds. It is now 2.6 seconds.
Defend this.
>>
>>143848327
To balance the wand and sceptre implicit buffs. Also, flame dash could get buffed still.

I tried.
>>
>>143848915
It's a band-aid fix. Everyone uses Whirling Blades? Better make it clunky as hell at level 1, and slower at level 20 for casters with no attack speed. Not that I care. I get 7 frenzy charges and perma-Onslaught so I'll barely notice the change, but still.
>>
>>143848327
>>143848915
>increased attack TIME
it's a NERF you tards
>>
>>143849039
No fucking shit, what made you think I thought otherwise? You fucking retard, don't ever quote me again
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>>143849156
>don't ever quote me again
>>
>get into path of exile tonight with my friends
>we're level 17 now
>hear the leagues ending soon and all our progress will be for naught
what do
>>
>>143849458
Start again with Prophecy. See this as your training for the real thing (challenge leagues). I've made dozens of characters over the years. I must have played default leagues for a total of 5 hours since I started with my first challenge league.
>>
>>143849458
You can still play them on standard, it's not a loss progress, specially if you can learn from it and apply it when playing in the next leagues.
>>
>>143848327
really makes you think
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>>143849458
the best thing to do with an mmorpg type game is to play a bit and then restart when you're less retarded

poe forces you to do that every few months
>>
>>143849458
Reroll into a meme build
>>
What you've got to ask yourself is.

Are you a bad enough dude to run 1000% increased elemental damage with 12 Grand Spectrums?

poeurl.com/D5M
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>>143849458
2bh you could cut the jewel slot under profane chemistry and the one above blood drinker (5 points to get each) and get those near whispers of doom and hex master (4 points to get each)

quick recovery and hired killer can be specced into to make up for the loss of 20% life from blood drinker cluster
>>
>>143850747
I'm gonna be straight with you, I did not put a lot of thought into this build.

I legitimately do think that this stacking is ridiculously broken though.
>>
>>143834612
can GGG do ANY other sort of balancing instead of kneekjerk reaction gutting? fuck sake
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i bet you guys won't even be playing kaoms/pledge/aylardex 8x PC 48% MoM builds next league
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>>143850870
i don't know, it's just flat elemental increase stacking, without any of the perks that come from notables

shadow area = cast speed, attack speed, movement speed, life on kill, crit chance, projectile speed, ele resistances

and all the shit you can get from 10 jewels, attack/cast speed, block, ele resistances, chaos resistance, projectile speed, etc
>>
>>143850964
It takes them THREE MONTHS (their excuse is that they don't want mid-league balance changes) to nerf 2 or 3 of the most blatant outliers like Spark/VMS in this patch and leave the other 50 spells that are obsolete/trash to rot. Maybe in 2 years they can remember skills like Ice Spear or Arctic Breath still exist.
>>
>>143851343
or maybe give a little love to the 30 other melee skills that aren't eq or reave
>>
>>143851627
>other melee skills
You mean those that are actually melee skills and not just aoe spells that scale of your phys weapon?
>>
>Elementalist literally just has to use wild strike once every 10 seconds for 25% FREE pen
>>
>>143851742
i just want cyclone to be #1 again
>>
i've heard from an inside source that along with the ascendency buffs,they're also increasing monster difficulty by about triple across the board
>>
>>143851772
or you know, discharge
if you're not concerned about damage and just proccing ele pen, discharge is much easier to use
>>
>>143851772
>Damage Penetrates 25% X Resistance if you've used a Y Skill Recently
>Recently
That's every 4 seconds.

I think Master of Discord is still the least powerful Elementalist node.
>>
>no mention of EQ nerf
>slayer buffed to hell with +40% aoe
kek i know what i'm playing now
>>
>>143850463
>VP on hybrid
what

Just go CI lmao

poeurl.com/D55
>>
>>143852459
This could actually be part of the answer. ES nodes are all conveniently stacked in one part of the tree as opposed to life nodes, so you could build a fairly tanky CI builds, while grabbing jewel slots for damage.
>>
>>143851215
It's a LOT of damage. Without necessarily being a glass cannon.

I mean, 300% damage in the tree currently would be a 'woah, hold then there, bud, slow your roll. You've only got 130% life there'. But with this you can probably get a passable 200% life or a hybrid life/ES health pool as well as enough jewel slots to make a huge amount of damage. With vaal pact and being an elementalist for -50% reflect damage you might actually be able to get away with that kind of nuclear energy right there too.

If frostbolt ends up being OP like it may well do you're looking at spell echo faster cast faster projectiles controlled destruction frost bolts that auto-pierce with +1000% elemental damage that shock, freeze and ignite. Sounds pretty good. Dunno if it would roll out like that, but seems pretty good.

>>143852459
>>143852594
I don't think that will stop you from instagibbing yourself on reflect mobs even with -50% reflect damage if you're doing that much damage.

And traps/mines are for fags.
>>
I'm only lvl 11 but i specced alot into more spell damage but i just realized my spells are necromancy and summoning shit. Did I just waste all those passive points?
>>
>>143852046
it was buffed to 10 seconds m8r
>>
>>143852671
You seem to be lost friend, reddit is the place to ask if you're a retardedly new player inquiring about the best way to min-max his 10-point tree
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>>143742043
I fell for the mystery box meme.
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>>143852756
Also, better to use ice spear periodically to activate both elemental overload and discord for your arc.
>>
>>143852761
>minmax
I was just wondering if +spell damage passives affect my necromancy mobs.
>>
>>143834612
Cumming all over sparkers.
>>
>>143853352
ARE MINIONS SPELLS? ARE YOU MAKING YOUR MINIONS STRONGER BY PICKING SPELL DAMAGE NODES INSTEAD OF OH I DONT KNOW MINION DAMAGE NODES????? TRY TO THINK FOR ONE FUCKING SECOND IN YOUR SORRY LIFE
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>>143838000
OP.
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>>143853464
Thanks for spoonfeeding me. Way to lose your fucking cool over a question. Taking this game way too fucking seriously buddy.
>>
>>143853464
He probably comes from a background of playing shit like Magic the Gathering. Don't be a dick.
>>
>>143853464
>ARE YOU MAKING YOUR MINIONS STRONGER BY PICKING SPELL DAMAGE NODES INSTEAD OF OH I DONT KNOW MINION DAMAGE NODES
No, don't be retarded.
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>>143853464
So you're saying spell damage will make my minion's spells stronger?
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>>143853592
do you think this is a fucking game?
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>>143853812
Yes, and i've had the last laugh. Goodnight kitten.
*headshots*
>>
poe4lyfe
>>
imagine a world where poe never became popular, ggg didn't become sellouts, and it was still a niche hardcore game for hardcore players
>>
>>143852459
Here's 14 jewel slots and the same level of ES.

poeurl.com/D6v 11 jewels for lelelmental, 3 jewels for armor.
>>
>>143854016
poe was never hardcore, kiddo
>>
Is frostbolt going to be good without doing that activation bullshit?

I really hate having to combo skills
>>
>>143854016
remember when we had full block heavy strikers that casted Enduring Cry and Molten Shell before they leapslammed into a pack

every single pack

and got desynced back out 50% of the time

>leap slam with multistrike was cool though
>>
>>143854651
Is Contagion good without ED?
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Anyone else memeing in 2.3?
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>>143854280
>11 jewels for lelelmental, 3 jewels for armor.
For what purpose?

Go big or go home.

>>143854716
Literally 2000 health pool.
>>
>>143854716
nice life
>>
>>143854692
I actually don't know, I haven't played it for the same reason
>>
I'm pretty sure though. I'm pretty sure people are gonna sell those fucking jewels for over an exalt.
>>
>>143854784
It's set up to be a used in a one-two combo with Ice Nova/Vortex. Slow projectile, slow cast speed, don't expect it to be anything more than a below average Ice Spear/Freezing Pulse by itself.
>>
>>143854897
>be one of the first to find one
>post it high because there are no established prices

ofc its gonna happen
>>
>>143854773
924% increased elemental damage, and +3150 armour

or just 1176% increased elemental damage

I know what I'm picking.
>>
>>143855104
except one jewel is useless by itself, so no one is going to pay a premium price for just ONE

i swear i'm surrounded by retards here
>>
>>143855138
Big or go home.

>>143855205
You don't understand how people think.
>>
>>143855065
That's pretty fucking gay
>>
>>143855205
I don't agree

If you're making a build around them, and you have the money and you want it, you'll be paying premium at the start of the league

It won't be like a crazy yellow but it'll be worth a lot
>>
>>143855346
you're better off hoarding them until their price spikes 2 weeks in when a streamer decides to make a build around it and all the sheeple follow

same thing happened with varunastra
>>
>>143836704
Well diablo 3 was hard as fuck on release
>>
>>143839584
you can level with kb as soon as you get it, just make sure to:
>get a storm prison or 2
>run wrath and herald of thunder
>if possible (so probably not at the start of a league) use static electicity in ranger socket
>get the pierce cluster
>get the attack mana leech nodes
>run kb + l/gmp + pierce + wed

in fact, storm prison wander is endgame viable, but as assassin and not deadeye
>>
>>143855408
Point taken

But I'm a believer in opportunity cost

Having the money [now] is more profitable then waiting when your investment opportunities are immediately better

This applies to the start of a league and even in real life
>>
guys i need a bit of help on deciding on an ascendancy class for my explosive arrow build

currently scion is by far the best choice for obvious reasons

with it being gutted in prophecy iam kinda hesitant to pick it up

my alternatives are basically berserker of chieftain

both grant leech for the EA but both feel like are not suited optimally

some things that could help me decide?
>>
>he plans to play prophecy
>instead of shutting down his pc for a month and enjoying the summer

fucking nerds lmao
>>
Why do they still add mana items to the game despite fucking dumpstering mana builds ages ago?

I mean, wow, I can gear my entire build towards mana and get... Fuck all. Some damage reduction which I could basically get from another source while still being able to reserve my mana for other buffs.

Fuckin RIP Eldritch Battery/Arctic Armour.
>>
>>143855694
>he doesn't realize that some people have debilitating health issues
>>
>>143855716
what is MoM
>>
>>143856020
the best DR in the game
>>
>>143855769
Rub some dirt on it pussy

If that doesn't work just kill yourself you little bitch
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damn ranger got fat...
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>>143856417
>he doesn't realize some people are debilitated they can't even kuduku
>>
>>143856517
Because they aren't trying hard enough

Probably why they got it in the first place
>>
>>143856456
>bodyshaming
RANGER IS A REAL WOMYN YOU PIG
>>
>>143855694
what if you live in australia and winter is coming?
>>
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PIC RELATED
IT'S ME AND MY SUPERIOR BUILDS LAUGHING AT YOUR """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""BUILDS"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>>
Am I the only one excited for the updated Commander of Darkness?
>>
Would a Blade Vortex poison-based Assassin work?Just returned and it's the first time i see the newer skills/Ascendancy classes.
>>
>>143857134
yes very
i especially like the FREE purity of elements
also another question
does explosive arrow dmg scale with projectile damage?
it shouldnt because it doesnt have the projectile tag but some guides recommend it

are they just retarded or is it inconsisten wording?
>>
>>143857802
>does explosive arrow dmg scale with projectile damage?
NO
>>
>>143857741
yeah and normally blade vortex doesn't even need poison to destroy content
>>
>>143857802
>>143857905
but it does scale with projectile damage
>>
>>143858006
You are fucking retarded. Initial hit does, explosion doesn't
>>
>>143857905
>>143858006

see thats what i mean i only get contradicting answers
also this
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/69408

its only really important for jewels so i guess its not that urgent to know ...
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>>143858076
>>
>>143858232
thank you
>>
>>143857942
Nice,thanks anon.Also good to know that Vortex is strong,it's just that i want to try poison now since it used to be non-existent before.
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How do I make MoM work with the Trickster's Weave the Arcane?

Also, what is the minimum unreserved mana pool I should work towards if I am grabbing ~150% increased maximum life from the tree on top of having Acrobatics.
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>>143858792
>~150% increased maximum life
>>
>>143858792
use quick movement skills
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>use the new skill vortex
>use a pyre to convert 100% cold to fire
>however, the DoT part can't be converted, so it's still cold
>grab elemental equilibrium
>initial hit now applies fire EE, reducing cold resistance by 50%
>>
>>143858959
>Izaro's Turmoil

>>143858792
cyclone?
>>
>>143858959
>however, the DoT part can't be converted, so it's still cold
Says who?
>>
>>143859104
DoTs just don't convert, retardo
>>
>>143858959
>sacrificing half your damage so that the other half has extra 50 res pen you could have procced anyway
wow you're a genius
>>
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>>143858959
>>
>>143859256
Says who though? What other cold damage over time skill is there that you are comparing this to?
>>
>>143859694
fucking shit you're such an idiot
>>
>>143859792
says the retard converting half his damage just to proc EE
kill yourself my man
>>
>>143859901
>lose no damage on first hit
>get 50% more damage on DoT
>somehow this is bad
lol retard
>>
>>143860037
You're obviously losing damage on both the frost bolt projectile and the initial explosion since you cannot possibly scale both fire and cold damage. And you can't proc EE on a DoT lasting 3+ seconds? Maybe don't play builds where you have to cycle skills in the first place if applying EE is too complex for you, moron. All you've achieved is sacrificing your ring slot, sacrificing your initial damage, all so you could proc EE for DoT damage. Kill yourself, retard.
>>
>>143860174
>doesn't know how damage increases work with conversions
>calls anyone else a retard
epic, just epic
>>
>>143860174
not the guy posting the idea

but holy shit you are some special kind of retarded arent you?

with pyre you only scale the cold damage because then you get the fire damage for free
hell you even have some jewels and passive nodes that double dip that makes it even easier to scale

main dmg component is the dot anyway mabye you havent watched the teasers

still dont know what you are going on about with sacrificing dmg of initial hit
>>
>Hierophant gives you energy shield and mana regen
>Hierophant tells you to go MoM
>MoM only protects life, not ES
>EB energy shield isn't affected by mana regen

This fucking logic.
>>
>>143855559
Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
>>
>>143860279
>>143860391
You're losing damage solely because EE will give the initial frost bolt hit 50 fire resistance. Jesus Christ, how do you mouthbreathers even deal with being alive? That has nothing to do with damage conversion, even if your retarded build was even more retarded than initially thought by going out its way to grab "double-dipping" nodes and jewels which only really benefit a C2F AOF build. KILL YOURSELVES

>main dmg component is the dot anyway mabye you havent watched the teasers
You don't know the numbers, and my point still stands that you could skip using Pyre, proc EE in any other way, and thus lose no damage at all in the process.
>>
>>143860713
do you realize you can use vortex without frost bolt, retard?
>>
>>143860802
>using an aoe spell centered around yourself
>still losing damage on the initial explosion because of EE
you just keep digging that grave deeper and deeper, retard
>>
>>143860713
>the hit comes
>then the mob gets 25 ( not 50) fire res and loses 50 cold res

and at the guy that posted the idea on here
i really like it i might try it later in the league
>then dies to the cold dot

????
>>
>>143860846
i think you have some fundamental misunderstanding of how EE works
>>
>>143860863
Cool, you just lost 25% of your damage on a monster with 0 base res, 50% of it if it had 50 base res, and so on. And for what reason? Just to proc EE? You know you could do the same thing without losing a ring slot and with a 1-2 dmg fire/lightning hit? Dumb fucking shit.
>>
>>143860446
fuck EB, do this>>143851016
>>
>>143860846
>what is whirling blades

but i'm sure your idea of using 3 (three) skills per pack is way better :^)
>>
>>143860978
>building around a DoT spell like you would for nova spells
they need to invent a new word to describe your stupidity, imbecile doesn't come close to it
>>
>>143860950
you hit the monster first
THEN it gains/loses the resistances

are you really this retarded?
>>
>>143861051
3 SKILLS PER PACK

S
K
I
L
L
S

P
E
R

P
A
C
K

nice clear speed senpai
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/poeg/ should be shut down a week before new leagues start
the influx of idiotic new players is the fucking worst
i rather suck 100 shitcrow dicks than listen to their stupid build ideas
>>
>>143861173
better start right now then

*unzips penis*
>>
>>143861058
Yeah, if you built around NOT using frost bolt and instead used Vortex like it was Discharge, which is utterly retarded and completely goes against the idea of benefiting from EE on a DoT skill. You're too stupid to even debate, learn to read, learn to play then go jump off a cliff you faggot
>>143861125
Surely whirling from packs to packs spamming ED is better than just using Contagion to spread the debuff
You're the most stupid person on /vg/ right now you fucking downie
>>
>>143861348
>vortex is a big aoe
>ed is a dinky projectile

>HURR THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THEM t.(You)
>>
>>143861565
just play self cast discharge / ice nova / shock nova then, what's the reasoning behind using a half dot spell like it's an instant spell and having to scale AoE instead of letting a projectile scale it? you fucking failed abortion
>>
Guys, calm down.
>>
>>143861653
i think i can guess you build played last league
coc discharge
voltaxic spark
voltaxic LA

why is it so hard for you to understand that scaling a new skill in an interesting way might be appealing to people?
>>
Can we go back to shitty pain drawings now?
>>
>>143861869
going out of your way to build around a skill that wasn't designed to be used that way isn't "interesting" but fucking retarded

just like you don't see me using GMP 100% pierce ED because I can just fire one projectile and let Contagion scale it, and yeah it uses twice as many skills, probably too complex for a drooling retard like you
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>toxic delivery swapped for the shittiest ascendancy node in the game
FUCK YOU CHRIS WILSON
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
>>
>>143861967
>shitty pain
sounds like my last visit to the toilet
wasn't pretty
>>
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our guy is shitting on meme builds
wish he was here to shut these fucking idiots up
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>>143862210
>have IBS
I feel you man.
>>
>>143862502
bitchpt has never been, is not, and will never be "our guy"
>>
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>>143862560
>>
>>143862560
stop the denial
>>
should i buy a 7 league step before perandus ends as a reminder
>>
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>>143862560
>>
i've had a painful chest lump for the past few days
it's swollen and hurting
do i have breast cancer (i'm male)
>>
>>143863057
Yes
>>
>>143863319
yes

soon you'll be free from all suffering
>>
>>143862157
source?
>>
>>143863154
that fucking face
>not sure if downie or just aboriginal genes
>>
>>143862560
he's pretty cool k
>>
>bump limit

it's that time again. time to let poeg die forevery
>>
>>143863784
i was about to make a new one
shoud i not
i kinda don't want to list to these retarde dnew players and shitcrows any longer
>>
>>143863319
doesn't sound like cancer but I know no better
>>
>>143863604
anywhere you can see 2.3 ascendancies
>>
>>143863968
no

give it to the pillar of eternity guys
>>
>>143864019
You mean the node that gives you
>FREE
double poison and bleed damage alongside the 20% added phys damage as chaos?

That's the shittiest ascendancy node in the game?
>>
>>143864116
?
>>
>>143864295
you're a fucking mong, the 20% chaos damage is dependent on bleeds, which you won't be getting unless you manage to proc it with wb 5% of the time
noxious strike was bad then and it's bad now
>>
Somoene make a new thread or I'm skyping catposter right now
>>
new bread

>>143865672
>>143865672
>>143865672
>>
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4 days until the league drops. Still haven't released the challenges yet. GGG pls.
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