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New league hype edition

>Prophecy league information
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1663440

>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/tag/2.2.4

>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/2a5WBcBP

>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/

>Read this before asking for build advice
http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/510084

>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

>Rough mapping guide (ignore IIQ advice if it's still in there)
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1489756

Last Map: >>143509343
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:)

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>>143617669
definitely all me

>>143617860
not me
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Return of the crab !!!
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>>143617376
>>143617617
i used 125 points.
i could easly take away 20points from claw/shadow/Fatal toxin for lvl80.
And bleeding/poison was pretty good for me to be rank 50 with 48hours later before aegis drop.
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FREE
R
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WHERE?
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>>143618019
thanks reddit
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>Fixed a bug where 50% of Pocked Lanternbearers were doing 16% of the damage they should 50% of the time.
poetards????
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lozii-Pgpb77D4Vk1J1clM_UT0cWz35LQ3Zv3Kmf0ug/preview?pref=2&pli=1
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>See if Cloaked in Savagery was a new talent
>the 100% life leech was always there

whydid it exist all this time and nobody bothered to play it and now people are hyping it up calling it overpowered?

I mean 15% life damage is noting and you can get godmode with vaal pact (granted its kinda far away)
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Is Saffell's Frame viable in current POE?
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>>143619309
it's worse than it was before because before mitigating physical damage wasn't as urgent as it is today
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>>143619391
I'm going to give it a try on a juggernaut block build. I think IC and crazy endurance charges might mitigate enough phys.
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>>143619309
yes
just stack a shit ton of phys mitigation elsewhere
lightning coil probably helps alot too

if anything I'm more scared of elemental damage
>>143619391
juggernaught and a shitload of armor
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>>143619309
meme item
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>>143520650
>FREE
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>FREE
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>free
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>free
>>143546453
>free
>>143546567
>free
>>143546687
>free
>>143549358
>FREE
>>143555554
>free
>>143557946
>FREE
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>free
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>free
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>free
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>free
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>Free
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>FREE
>>143545660
>F R E E
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>>143619752
delete this
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>>143620175
i can't tell what build you painted.
sc build?
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>>143619460
is attacks, so combinated physical/extra damage as elemental/poison-on-hit mods will be still hits you even with 30k armour or IC.
t. palace/shrine/precint/overgrown/village with poison on hit/vulnerabity mods(i was gladiator, close to die many times).
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>>143618724
It used to be 25% of life damage for a savage hit
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First time in two years that I haven't fap for more than 24 hours.
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>yfw this patch will be fucking nothing balance wise
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>>143621586
GGG is scared of nerfing because it causes cynicism
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>>143621667
They just nerfed drop rates and scion.
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>>143621667
>>143621757
And chaos conversion.
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>>143621757
i'm talking real nerfs not just nerfing meme builds. they nerfed literally everything before the awakening and that was a large part of the reason why it was so shit
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>>143620175
There is no resurrect at checkpoint in any lab, even shitcore.
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>>143621667

After the shitstorm that was leech nerfs, of course GGG Wants to avoid that mistake again.
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>>143622193
Im still mad over the EB change.
Old cloak builds would have fit well into the damage spikes seen in high tier maps.Whoever thought it be a great idea to change EB and force the EB/GR/ZO/MoM meme needs to be lined up and shot.
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>>143617924
I hope you let it go.
It's just a friendly orb weaver, anon.
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I forgot, is Neon based?
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>>143618019
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>>143623431
Holy shit it's fucking running. That's amazing.
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>>143623263
fuck off neon i know you lurk here
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>>143623431
Not nerfed in 2.3, just loses some mobility.
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>>143623263
>GGG
No.
They're also the only GGG person that actually plays PoE. Goes to show a lot.
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>>143624731
RIP bottom crab.
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>>143623564
benis xDDD
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>>143624895
ECKS DEE
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>>143624128
>>143624731
>>143624895
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>>143624895
lamo @ small pp
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When do I get to vendors that sell skill gems?
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it's that time of the night, /poeg/

who got the good links (to nice builds of course)
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>>143625597
Get past Hillock.
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>>143625689
Isn't that the giant right before the first town? I'm in act 3 and haven't seen a single skill gem for sale.
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>>143625914
Wow.
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>>143625914
check the 2nd tab
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>>143625968
I've been playing for 1 day you autist my bad for over looking something

>>143626047
Thanks, I found it
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>>143626351
Actually, my "wow" wasn't for you overlooking something, but rather you managed to use that shitty first gem from the corpse to strand with ... whatever other shitty support you got all the way to Act 3.

Not saying that's super impressive or anything, but it's pretty cool.
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>>143626549
senpai you get new skills as quest rewards all the time
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>>143626686
Oh, I totally forgot about those.
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>>143626549
>>143626761
Oh, sorry I called you an autist, thought you were makin fun. I got firestorm somewhere along the way and linked it with a gem that adds lightning damage and just blasted my way through with that, don't even use any of the other ones I have found
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>>143626917
if he's in this thread he's an autist
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>>143626996
Just cause I'm home Friday night with no friends, no dates, no games to play, no books to read, no TV shows to watch, and no family to attend to on a 3-day weekend don't make me an autist ;_;.
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>>143627349
>tfw I was legitimately unaware it was Friday
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RF discharge Marauder

Going to be the biggest meme build this patch
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will be vigilant strike viable for jugg?
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>>143627531
self casting is ghey do
coc or go home
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>>143628167
yes, but
>melee splash
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>>143628273
Have they released or leaked the new ascendency tree's?

Wanna see if they fucked up Occultist


ALSO, question for those who used profane bloom (Corpse exploding when cursed) How does it interract with Abyssal cry? Does Profane proc normally or does abyssal cry ovveride it ?
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>>143628631
Occultist didn't change at all.
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>>143628631
Profane Bloom isn't even noticable. Don't bother with it. You go Occultist if you are going CI.
If you are going hybrid and taking Occultist for the +1 curse, you may as well kill yourself.
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im be juggernaut i t will be good
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I understand that when it comes to selling uniques they just have to be not complete shit and priced right but what about rares? If I'm just using premium, public tabs is it likely people will find my rares or do I need to set up a shop post for that junk?
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>>143627501
>Confused at why my roomate was still up
>Couldn't understand why the other was getting ready for work
>Ask what the fuck was happening
>It's friday
>mfw
I need to get a fuckign job.
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>>143630229
why does he wear the mask
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>>143630162
it always is, see you june 3rd
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>>143630315
UUUU
U U
U U
UUUU
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Are these fusing orientations possible on a 4 link?
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>>143630229
Why though?

Are you doing alright financially?

If so, why commit to the same weekly grind just because it's "normal"? It's total bullshit and you know it.

Disregard societal norms, play more Path of Exile.
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>>143630558
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>>143630558
>>143630765
I meant 4 sockets, sorry.
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>>143630560
Hell no, I've just been able to live off of my school loans, but I dropped out cuz college is fucking awful, so I'm in the process of finding shit, so I literally have no orietation towards what day of th week it is.
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>People pay $10+ for cosmetics

>Meanwhile I'm looking at the currency tab like a miser.

these microstransaction prices are fucked up.
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>>143631128
>freemium tabs
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>>143631128
$10-$15 are the 4 year old junk cosmetics, too.
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>>143631187

Paying 1.50$ for the ability to rename my tab is worthless bullshit.

However paying 7.50$ to store pretty every currency I'll ever get seems worthwhile.

I'll never fill it... right?
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>>143630558
No. The game considers the sockets a single straight line, in that backwards-S shape you see on 6-links. A 4-socket item is just the top part of that. It won't skip over sockets in this process. So if you number them left to right, top to bottom, 1 & 2, 2 & 4, and 3 & 4 are the only possible links in a 4 socket piece. You've drawn 1 & 3 linked in both of those, which will never happen.
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>>143631327
uh premium tabs let you use the p2w trade system

currency tab is pointless
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>>143631378
Ah, okay. Thanks. I tried looking it up in the fuse and jeweller page in the wiki but might've missed it.

Good thing I only used like 10 fuses.
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>>143631402
Currency tab saves your fucking sanity. I've done so much less god damned tab sorting in Perandus compared to previous leagues, I love it.
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>>143629364
i am goign CI Essence drain, and so with 8 point i got the 2 extra for it, hence why i asked. 10% more damage is compelling after all
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>>143631806
>CI Essence drain

nice auras lmao
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>>143631867
discipline + 2 blasphemy curses. Maybe an AA later on.
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>>143617669
you seriously couldn't update the links in OP? fucking dumb toad
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>>143631402
currency tab is QoL

not needed but comfy as fuck
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odd fap
even sleep
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>>143632368
unlucky
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>>143632368

>Not fapping in bed but not finishing to sleep relaxed and clean.
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>he doesn't enjoy sorting out his tabs
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>>143631806
>10% more
firstly, it's not more
secondly, 10% increased is shit
thirdly, ci is shit
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>>143618490
I sure hope that applies to excavation's big guy
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>>143632461
>not finishing to sleep relaxed
umm, poetards???
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>>143632368
well fucking RIP

Was gonna try

big breasts stockings tanlines monster girl snake girl x-ray cosplaying anal autofellatio

but gonna sleep now.
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>>143632884
>stockings
>snake girl
what
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>"Life leech buffs should still be addable while at full life with the ascendancy node for leech not stopping at full life. (40186)"

Where's that fucker who argued with me about this not working a few days ago?
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>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
>Fixed a bug where Cluster Trap and Minefield were only reducing trap or mine damage respectively when they should have been reducing all damage.
poison trappers/miners BTFO?????????
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>>143633118
>playing mines
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>>143632785
>Update
Calm down, baddie, nobody care about your shit opinions
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We've replaced Path of Exile's audio engine. The new one not only dramatically helps with memory usage but provides many other benefits that our audio engineers will take advantage of in the future.
If you were previously playing with sound disabled for performance reasons, please strongly consider turning it back on again!
We've made substantial improvements to when and how various assets are preloaded. There should be much less stuttering that occurs when certain assets appear. For example, Rogue Exiles inside strongboxes are preloaded as they are rolled.
Game assets are now loaded in the background as you play, making loading screens faster. You can now load to the login screen in less than a second on an SSD hard drive (two seconds on a non-SSD).
Because of the memory usage improvements in 2.3.0, there should be no more Out of Memory crashes. This is especially relevant to 32-bit Windows users.

Could it be? Finally a league where exile boxes don't freeze my game for 5 seconds?
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>>143628167
Vigilant strike works this patch, you just dual blasphemy curse warlord's mark and vuln and go to town

Enduring cry is used for bosses
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>>143633358

No they modernized it so lower end computers can't run it anymore. Or they broke everything so badly you though Obsidian Entertainment was QA
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>>143633118
Where did? Are patch notes out?
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>The Lord's Labyrinth in all difficulties has been upgraded with a new gauntlet type where you push an object through the encounter.
The fuck.
Fucking shit.
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>>143634954
>yo we heard that no one likes the lab
>so we made an end-game lab gated behind RNG
>oh also all labs now have extra bullshit for you to do that's mandatory
pls give us more money :)
also ty reddit for letting us shit on the game all the time
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>>143633080
he killed himself
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>>143634954
gauntlet traps are optional, I completed one once for the challenge and that was it
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>>143634954
>tfw ywn play a version of poe again without the lab
fuck this gay earth
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>>143635346
>complaining about optional content in a f2p game
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>>143635369
>optional
>f2p
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>>143635446
good naruto reaction picture, that describes your intelligence so well
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>>143634954
>>143635089
>>143635346
>waaaaaaah waaaaaaaah i can't facetank traps on my 9k life build, labyrinth is shit, SHIT!!!!!!!!!
lmaoing @ u're lives
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>>143635089
this is the same guy that complains about powercreep then pays a high level to run normal lab for him
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labyrinth is the shittiest part of this shit game
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>>143635754
No, that would be act 4 after the aqueducts
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Who 2.3 #musclewizard here?

>ARC 75k tooltip dps with wrath(90k with titziri flask) plus 42% penetration
>7000ish life
>3% life/mana leech
>whenever I take 1000 damage or more I go full retard and leech 75,000life per second(well, more like 1,400 cause of cap)

Was also considering gimping a bit of my offense nodes(and ditching regen nodes) and going spark + pierce nodes + acrobatic + vaal pact. That way I gain 67% RNG ehp and savage hit means I'm godmode and can't die at all outside of a 7500+ single hit.

Or go self cast discharge juggernaut, but fuck that, it's cancerous ziggyD-reddit tier memeing.
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>https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1665846/page/1
Why is he doing it like this?
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>>143635754
nothing you can't solve by paying a better player to do it for you
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>>143635893
he always does this. typing up patch notes is the hardest part of his job so he has to make a big deal out of it
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>>143635880
I swear I saw this tree before, node for node, did you just copy paste it from reddit?
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>>143635893
JUST FUCKING POST THEM YOU FUCKING KEK
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>>143636018

im the OP

needed upvotes from that cancerboard or else i might get enough downvotes to be soft-banned/post timer locked globally.
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Which has the better clearspeed, Bladefall or Blade Vortex?
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>>143635880
pretty sure nowhere in your master plan did you account for reflect which is not considered a hit, thus can never proc cloaked in savagery

enjoy dying to a bunch of t1 map skeletons because you cast a chaining, uninterruptible "muh 75k dps" arc
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>>143636228
theorically, that would be blade vortex since you clear at whirling blades speed
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>>143636228
necro BV
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reminder they broke poison AGAIN and if you arent playing a crit phys spell assassin build you don't know shit about anything
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>>143636550
reminder if you can't think for yourself and make your own builds, you're a retarded sheep who belongs on reddit
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>>143636295

>can't do reflect map

FUCK THERES A 1.7% CHANCE I MUST REROLL MY MAP!

CALL THE POLICE
CALL THE ARMY
CALL THE NAVY
CALL MY MOMMY

kill yourself retard.
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>>143636420
Yeah but you have to cast the things too.
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>>143636642
>it's another conditionally good build that can't run half of map mods
might as well roll RF, retard
even a single rare reflect will rape your ass anyway
so much for being a "tanky" caster
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>>143636550
>broke poison AGAIN
How so?
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>>143636767
>maps have 2 mods
kek
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>>143636773
assassin poison is retarded, they took a decent build (bino's reave) and DOUBLED IT.
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Okay poeg you HAVE to make a Duelist. What do you make? Anything not-shit or interesting or is Duelist just basic melee?
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>>143636825
so you're a worse inquisitor whose main defensive strategy is to get hit hard and pray you can leech damage back

nice build m8 i r8 it 8/8
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>>143636959
I'm not even that guy. But saying that 1 reflect is "half of the map mods" is just dumb as shit.
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>>143636767

>maps have like 60+ mods
>elem reflect is one of the rarest, at not even 2% proc rate, way lower on maps below t12
>t-t-t-too much! i c-c-c-can't spend a chaos orb to reroll once every 50-80 maps!!!


yeah kill yourself scrubber.
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>>143636882
>poison without double dipping
kek
you know nothing
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>>143636901
2h mace sunder slayer

20% aoe from tree + 40% from ascendancy + 20% from carcass jack + 39% from gem + 6% from mace implicit = mad overlapping aoes
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>>143637028
it's almost as if everyone rolled chaos in 2.2 because it bypasses any map mod crippling elemental builds :^)

things you can't run:
ele ref
min max (single reflect rare rapes your ass)

thing that cripple your dps:
ee
lightning res
immunity to status ailments

at least you got 7k life as caster, never mind it's not even that impressive when you got literally nothing else going for you

should be good enough for those mid tier yellow maps though :^)
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>>143637051
>what is conc effect, the most powerful double-dipping gem in the game
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>>143637258

>min max (single reflect rare rapes your ass)

Good job playing with 3000 life you shitkid.


>ee

Big fucking deal? you think 25% lightning resistance does shit when tier 15 rare golems just barely have 100k hp and I have 75k dps and 42% pen to begin with?
>lightning res

Again, who gives a shit?

>immunity to status ailments

I don't shock with this build, not that I need it against rares and not that it will apply to 2-3mil health mobs like uber/ambrius/malachai/etc anyway.

>it's almost as if everyone rolled chaos in 2.2 because it bypasses any map mod crippling elemental builds :^)

spot the ziggyD follower.
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>>143637258
stop it m8, it's embarassing
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What's a strong skill you can build around that is not dependant on items?

No flameblast.
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>>143637028
>this much stupidity and edge
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>>143637837
cucklone
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>>143637876
>First Hit deals 50% less Damage
nice build
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>>143637872

>get ousted as a fucking retard that thinks having to reroll one mod that procs less than 2% of the time is too much
>yy-y--you're STUPID!! here's a pic as well! OWNED!!!
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>>143636901
Duelist as anything other than attack would be pretty shitty, if that's what you meant. Nothing much other than melee bow builds. If you really want a meme duelist, maybe a blade vortex using the 40% aoe, and permanently leech/50%phys reflect im slayer? Wouldn't be good and its fucking awful to path but thata the only way I could see not attack duelist working.
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>>143637963
fuck off you obnoxious shitter, you're shit and don't know shit about shit
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>>143637640
ee, 80 lightning res (red map mod) will straight up give a monster 105 light res + their base res
but at least you got 42% pen :^)

75k dps is decent in ideal situations, aka magic maps where you don't have to worry about actual mods that actual end game viable builds account for :^)

but hey, who cares about red maps viability when they promised changes to end game exp, surely you can keep grinding those gorges forever :^)

>reflect and minmax are totally uncommon map mods I can just throw a chaos at them lol
spot the dried lake farmer
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>>143637640
>tier 15 rare golems just barely have 100k hp
what is enfeeble, temp chains, monster life?
what are extra life nemesis rares?
what are extra life lightning resistant bosses?

sure, it doesn't take much to kill trash in a white t15 map, but that's not really what a good build should be aiming for, because a good build would be aiming for sustaining those maps.
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>>143638065

>75k dps (+15k chaos on flask use)
>42% penetration means mobs can only have 33% resistance no matter how high they can try to stack it
>50k effective dps unflasked
>can't do maps
>rare tier 14 GOLEMS have 100k, rares 50-60
>normal mobs dont even break 20-25k
>50k dps can't speed clear it


Aww look at the unranked, no 100, no demigod, no alternate art shitter, he's trying so hard to be cool and contrarian!
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>>143637969
Yeah, seems that way. Planning on going EA with Duelist anyway. Isn't fantastic but it's hopefully solid enough so I don't die with it.

Speaking of EA, am I missing out of much if I go RT, no EE and no Elemental Overload? They don't seem worth it, especially considering the pathing points.
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>>143638292


>running cores
>sustaining
>hitting 100

I think you need to learn how to play this game if you think running maps outside of faceroll easily sustainable gorge, lake, plateau, springs, shipyards and waterways, even academy is optimal.

Not that it can't easily do core or anything, but anyone with half a brain would just sell their t14/t15 and buy a ton of t10-t11s.
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>>143637963
Even if an affix only has a 2% chance to roll by itself, that certainly doesn't mean you only have 2% of your maps with 5+ affixes (aka any map t10-11+ that should be alched) with that roll. Are you retarded? You fail at math 101. In a 6-mod map, you'd have a 0.98^6 ~= 88% chance to not roll reflect. From game experience, this is certainly NOT the case, and you're closer to 66%. So a third of maps you roll will require another chaos, and a third of those will require another, and so on.
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>>143638621
reflect or minmax*
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>>143638494
You're the one who brought up the t15 trash example, retard. You're not going anywhere near t15 in the first place running your shit, easy, no pack size yellow maps.
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guys, i don't want to play ed but i can't come up with another build
pls post meme builds so i can kill myself
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>>143638765

I can 2 second kill t15 GOLEM rares with 150% lightning mod/whatever, and a fraction of a second for regulars/rares.

Now put this in a t10-t12 situation from non golem mobs.

Yeah I know using your brain hurts cause you're a 90 iq non-ranker shitcore, but you sometimes have to think a little and take things at more than just face value.
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>>143638859
I'm not a furfag in any way but damn I would smash dat
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>>143638298
>42% penetration means mobs can only have 33% resistance no matter how high they can try to stack it
Also means 33% resistance no matter how hard you try to lower it. That 75k just became 50k. Not so good anymore, eh?
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>>143638859
i'd still fuck her in the cloaca
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delete shitcore
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>>143635880
Seems fun, what kind of links for arc? It also goes berserker, right?
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>>143638621
i vaal all my maps t12+ for +1 tier or 170+ quant which means i have to do -max reflect and any other smorgasbord of mods and so i need a build that can handle them. this obviously limits my options but i don't care. chaos is simply the best right now for farming endgame HC and building/sustaining a high level map pool
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>>143638874
ANY build can clear trash in t10-t12 maps, provided the mods are easy and don't gimp your damage... which most of the time won't be the case. You're reasoning from a white map baseline assumption. That's fucking retarded, and completely disregarding ANY map mod lowering your damage, including but not limited to:

EE
Lightning resistance
Enfeeble
Temp Chains
Hexproof if you run ele curses
heck, even Totems will lower your clear speed because you have no good way to deal with Allies cannot die totems

But yeah your build is good. In white t9s. Nothing an Inquisitor, Elementalist or Assassin wouldn't outperform easily.
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>>143639129

>heck, even Totems will lower your clear speed because you have no good way to deal with Allies cannot die totems

You know you can aim, right?

these softcore fucktards. mother fucking hell.

>Enfeeble
>Temp Chains

Thanks for reminding me that my build suffers from being slowed and losing offensive power.

I'll go chaos or whatever the fuck you're preaching so my chaos damage can ignore being slow and having my offense dampened.

fucking shitcrows.
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>they're STILL responding to dumb catposter
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>>143638494
You're not going to sustain t11s+ easily by avoiding 2-3 map mods every time. Because any experienced player knows map sustaining cares about one thing and one thing only: pack size. So really, the question is not

"what is the probability I don't roll reflect/minmax/any map mod my shit build can't run?"

but

"what is the probability I roll pack size AND NOT reflect/minmax/any map mod my shit build can't run?"

Not being able to run a common map mod gimps your map sustain ability SEVERELY. It's just not just not being able to run no regen, reflect is very common and so is minmax (coincidentally also a pack size mod).
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>>143639379

>reroll elemental reflect
>not even 2% proc rate
>reroll TONS of map mods

Mate, you're just trying so hard it's getting real sad.
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>>143639372
dumb catposter is playing rust
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>>143639468
I speak from game experience. I have a healthy pool of t13-14s in PHC I can't be bothered to run because I stopped playing months ago. I certainly didn't get there by avoiding 3 map mods every time, or I'd be a lot poorer by the end. Where are your credentials? Can you back up you claims? I can. Because I didn't run a shit build needing to reroll maps. I rolled for pack size, not for "pack size and please not reflect please mommy that mod is too hard."
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>>143639379
>tfw poison bladefall miner master race that doesn't have to give a shit about any of this and can melt whatever map I want
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>>143639547
I thought he was playing warframe?
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>>143639623
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>>143639675
More like CROWen
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>>143639592
that's not how pupils work
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>wasting your time with poor man's Diablo
LMAO
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>>143639581

>3 map mods
>3 map mods
>3 map mods

why are you trying so hard to be a fucking retard?

ele reflect doesnt count as 3 map mods and is one of the rarer ones, especially on a t11.

Oh nvm he's one of those

>i spent 2-3x more money rerolling that extra 20% pack size than the value of the map+4 chisels +alch itself!

>perandus
>MONTHS ago (months?)
>couldn't be bothered
>but i got it
>totally

no red flags.
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>>143639830
>playing video games
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>>143639830
>wasting your time being alive
LMAO
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>>143639832
>he needs more than 1 month to achieve everything he wants to achieve in a league
found the shitter
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New passive trees are out. What builds will 2.3 bring?
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>>143640132
...
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>>143639832
Yeah I played for the first month of Perandus, why would I really bother past that point? Did YOU ever play Perandus?

Maybe you're too out of touch with the game and that's why you're assuming shit without any actual recent game experience to back it up. Maybe that's why you assume pack size is not important for map sustain.

Either way, if you rolled your maps the way I did, you'd be 20-30c poorer by the end of each day, so don't even try to argue I somehow wasted currency rolling maps when I earned a map pool you probably never got to.

Picture related. Certainly doesn't look like "2%" of maps, now does it?
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>>143640132
Shield charge facebreakers for sure. I've always wanted to do shield charge, but up until now the only way to make it "viable" was having to do meme shit like elemental prolif (which will be partially rebuffed) or throw 20 exalts at it.
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>>143640367

>your build CANNOT DO EE/RESIST/-RES CAUSE I SAID SO!

you are literally a shitter, you're not even trying.
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>>143640553
2 map mods that give your build trouble (EE and minmax) are also ones that give pack size, and you can't roll pack size and somehow avoid reflect forever, and not 98% of the time. You're clueless and a theorycrafter, not an actual player. Not highlighted in that picture: monster life, boss life, enfeeble, and many other mods crippling your shit Berserker caster build.
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I don't understand this

After +10% of maximum Life per second to maximum Life Leech rate
100% increased Life Leeched per second

So does it mean it's (20+10) x2 = 60% life leeched per second? or something different?
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>>143640654

>ee
>25% resist
>trouble

Yeah if I did 15k tooltip elemental DPS like your shitter character that you gave up on.

>-res
>on a t11-t12 map
>dangerous

I have more than 3000 hp, something your build doesn't have hence why you think it's a must-reroll.
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>>143640747
How exactly did I get to that kind of map pool by running a 15k dps 3k life character? You're the one sounding desperate now. I don't need build advice because I know from past experience what is viable end game. You don't.

Even if you only consider ele ref as your only impossible mad mod, that's still 9 maps out of 73 in that >>143640367 picture.
9/73 = 12%. Still going to hide behind your pathetic "but it only rolls 2% of the time!" argument? If you cannot roll reflect, your build is shit, period.
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reminder there is a big difference between 'viable' and 'good'
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>>143641073
Yeah no shit sherlock
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>>143641073
Viable: not cockblocked by a mod rolling 10-15% of the time and cucked by other mods rolling 20-25% of the time.

A build that cannot run reflect is not end game viable, unless you're an RMT autist with an infinite supply of chaos.
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>>143640919

d2jsp. judging by how bad you and your arguements are.

>73 maps is an accurate sample size for a 2% rolled mod (datamined on the twdb)

keep going mate, keep going.

show me 9 out of 73 have ele reflect, cmon.

>he's gonna fucking chaos spam them to prove he wasn't lying

ahahha
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>>143641398
2% chance of rolling it once, maybe - but you're not rolling a single prefix in a 3-4 prefix map, you fucking tool.
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>>143640705
This the relevant part of the poe wiki you need to read

>A Leech instance is calculated by taking a percent of the damage done in each hit according to the #% Damage Leeched as Life (or Mana) stat then healing the character up by that amount, the speed in which a instance of leech heals character is specified by the leech recovery rate, the default leech recovery rate is 2% of the character's max health per second, which can be increased by #% increased (or reduced) Life/Mana Leeched per second modifiers. There is a maximum amount of leech recovery rate per second which is by default 20% of maximum health, this can be increased by #% of maximum Life/Mana per second to maximum Life/Mana Leech rate modifiers

So each leech instance heals you for a default of 2% of your life per second, which slayer doubles to 4%

It means you need to be hitting an enemy 5 times before your leech runs out, or hitting 5 different enemies, to hit the default % of max life leech per second cap of 20%

But slayer also increased that cap, so you need to hit an enemy 7.5 times to reach the cap, or 7.5 different enemies

GGG changed it all to make leeching against single targets hard, as you have to hit them a lot of times to get enough instances of leech to reach the maximum life leech rate cap, whereas something like earthquake could easily hit 10 monsters which makes you hit the cap instantly with no modifiers to leech at all

>I played slayer in the 2wpdhcfb. I spent far too long trying to figure out why my leech absolutely sucked ass after I died to a single warband dude
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>two hours later the autists are STILL going at it
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>>143641398
>You bought 73 red maps and chaos spammed them just for the eventuality of proving me wrong 2 months later
Has anyone ever been more in denial than you?
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>>143641469

>you will ALWAYS triple roll prefixes.

you get either 1,2 or 3.

so averaged 2 rolls of under 2% chance. big fuckin woop lol.

one reroll out of like 40 maps, g fucken g nigga.
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>>143641706
You're still not accounting for pack size.

When your strategy is "roll until I don't hit reflect", it really should be "roll until I get pack size AND NOT reflect."
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hello and what's going on in here
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>>143641967
shut the fuck uppercut
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>>143641967
45 people are watching 2 autists argue about a build
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>>143641760

> i will exalt a map worth 20 chaos to get that extra 10%
>m-muh meme size!
>gotta fucken reroll spam nigga, spending 2-3x more money for that extra 10% is worth it! as opposed to running 2-3 more identical maps with slightly less %

good math skills . Explains why he thinks 75k dps and 43% penetration apparently has great difficulty vs tier 11 mobs with 25% resist via EE.
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>>143641518
ehhh if they are so careful about making leech balanced why did they make Serker so retarded?

now looking at the builds I have no choice but to go zerker
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>>143642091
Spoken like someone who's never sustained above t12. You're a shitter, and even worse, a shitter in denial.
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>>143642148
>>143642148
>exalting maps
dumb shit
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>Oro's Flicker with Zerker
>Absolutely disgusting amount of damage
>Only downside lategame was not leeching enough/Oneshot
>75% attackspeed from ascendancy alone
>You literally can't die from 100% leech and vaal + flicker

With anything above 6k hp, what's there to kill Oro's flicker with the new Zerker?

This looks so fucking broken especially with the new burn item
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>>143642146
Serker is only retarded with vaal pact though, it'll kill a bunch of people who are expecting to leech like 20% of their hp per second but only end up leeching 2%
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>>143642303
also
>2 second enduring cry
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>>143642303
Oneshots will still kill you

Getting frozen, I guess?

Temp chains map with chilled ground and a temp chain casting sea witch that hinders you and has a slowing aura, while igna phoenix stands nearby?

Does Bear Trap stop flicker strike?
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OMG DID THEY LEGACY VOLTS!?!?!!?!??!
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>>143642524
Bear Trap does momentarily but you spin right away (Flicker is designed as a way to escape bear trap, funny enough kek)

I guess investing points into the tank side of tree will still give good damage since 80% increased damage + 75% increased attackspeed + taming / emberwake later on

I might start this out Cyclone first though

I'm kinda scared trying flicker on hc though, should I just do vortex/cyclone zerker on hc
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>>143619752
You are the only reason I still come to this shit thread.
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>>143642836
i bet freeposter is cute irl
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How does poeg feel about older women
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>>143635893
>requesting access with the note of CAW CAW CAW
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>>143643091
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>>143642710
I'd probably do cyclone on hc, but flicker does sound like it would be fun with this

How do you even build for Oro's flicker though?
oro's 20%
flammability 14%
doryani's 10%
tree 10%
taming+emberwake 10%

That enough ignite with a tree like this http://poeurl.com/DN1 ?
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>>143642638
no
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>>143643229
I stuck with chance to ignite since Flicker doesnt have that many support gems to utilitize (also we won't be needing BM/Leech here, ascendancy gives that)

those are all good, also gems come with chance to ignite while you look for stuff like increased attackspeed

i'm gonna start builidng the passive tree now
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>>143643091
how the fuck do i read this
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>>143643835
right to left
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>>143643775
I suppose with Chance to Ignite on your links you don't even need taming + emberwake, you'd hit 100% chance and could use not expensive as fuck rings

flicker splash multi CtI fire pen wed, seems like it'd be OP
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>>143644142
yeah Oro's Flicker has been a strong build previously, but the problem alwyas had been the uncontrollable nature of Flicker + reflect + porcupines, however with 100% leech you can literally just eat through everything unless you desync hard
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>>143644225
Or until your net lags, or you crash, I guess. Inherently has more risk than every other build in that regard
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>>143644357
>not having a perfect pc and internet
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If you die in HC you die IRL.
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How do I really abuse the 40% more damage from berserker?

Atziri's disfavour for bleed double dipping comes to mind, which would work well with EQ.

Anything else I can double-dip? Poison doesn't seem great due to Less Duration, but what about ignite double-dip? Is there an easy way to ignite outside of crit?
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>>143644925
20/20 fireball has 49% chance to ignite by itself and works with all the double dipping modifiers
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>>143644631
hell yeah
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>>143645034
I meant adding ignite to atziri's disfavor EQ
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>>143644925
>10% inc damage taken
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>mfw i've played my build for two months using wrong ascendancy passives

"oops"
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>>143645261
based retard
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>>143645469
too bad i can't do shit with all this extra deeps, already at lv96 and the league is pretty much done
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Name a single build for which Ascendant is now the optimal class and not a watered down version of another class' ascendancy
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>>143645775
Life ED
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>turn scion into a man-hating feminist
>buff her to OP fotm status

fucking SJWs
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Name a single HC build that isn't 8k life / Off screen / 50k ES / permafreeze pussy build

Face it HCucks, you guys literally are killing the game, POE is about build diversity and all you cucks do is play EQ 80k life full block build and go XDDDIM SO HARDCORE!!! that's not being good, that's artificial difficulty
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>>143646049
Either Occultist (even life-based or hybrid) or Trickster are better, more defensive, more damage and it's not like they can't get 200% life from the tree either.
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>>143646207
But that's wrong anon. Make a tree and find out for yourself
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>>143646194
>off screen
I don't get this argument. Are you saying you're not a real hardcore player unless you're in your face melee?
>raw ehp and mitigation/avoidance is bad
So what is hardcore for you? Being melee with 5k life, no armour, no block, no nothing? That's not hardcore, that's retarded.
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>>143646194
i play those builds on sc
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>>143646320
>he took the bait
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>>143646194
It's funny because ascendancy power spike has brought a surge of build viability, enabling several that were previously too mediocre to even be considered. There are very few actual build checks left in the current game, you might kill Core Malachai or Uber Atziri for the challenge itself, but if you can clear everything before with little to no challenge, your build is considered viable anyway.
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>>143646524
Which is why clearspeed is so important nowadays, it's one of the few build checks left in the game.

Basically if you have a sub 3 minute gorge clearspeed, can run almost any map mod, and can reliably kill core malachi your build is pretty much god tier.
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So this sad joke is going to be the next Skyforth right?
>+1 curse
>bypasses hexproof maps
>extra GLOBAL poison link
>1300 base dex
>25+ chaos res

The only "downside" is it not being BiS for LL supports, but it pretty much is for every other build out there
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>>143647261
>+1 curse
doedre's damning does the same and has less opportunity cost
>bypasses hexproof maps
If your build relies on curses it's shit anyway, curse immune rare bosses will fuck you up. Still nice though.
>extra GLOBAL poison link
Caster builds that can't get poison from snakebite usually want an ES chest.
>1300 base evasion
low tier. also, no life.
>25+ chaos res
meh
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How can minions get block and spell block without buffs like offerings?
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>>143647746
jewels
necromantic aegis (lol)
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>>143646194
there is nothing stopping you playing your glass cannon builds on sc
what the fuck are you talking about
build diversity is the highest it has ever been
get a fucking clue, shitcrow
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>>143647261
>free curse and seventh link for my planned build

i wonder how rare it will be
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>>143649020
t1, which is getting rarer, so don't expect anything less than 10ex
just look at what heretic's veil were going for in phc
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>rate my build lads
>it uses skyforth, cospris, lv4 empower, heretics veil, rathpith, and a +1 curse volls
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>poophecy less than a week away
>already lost all hype
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Whoever can get to level 90 first with less than 3k health(In Prophecy HC) wins 100 internet points
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How's this BV berserker?

poeurl.com/DP3

Plan on using cospri's and cast speed rings, running enfeeble+temp chains+vuln blasphemy with heretic's veil.

double obliteration wands (their implicit spell damage got buffed), quicksilvers of adrenaline for movement.
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>>143649263
>skyforth, cospris, rathith

Are you not going lowlife with skyforth's? Why the fuck not? Why are you using a rathpith instead of a good ES shield, or hell, a fucking prism guardian?

Seems like a shit build
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>>143649296
i can't decide on a build
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>>143649449
>Plan on using cospri's
stopped reading there
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>>143649442
my planned build only has 140% life
how fucked am i
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>>143649573
poison gem and doedre's until i get it obviously.
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>>143649482
necro bv
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i wish this game had nice waifus like overwatch
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>>143649764
why is she so smug
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>>143649814
because she's perfect and knows it
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>>143649876
hmm
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>>143649263
>rathpith
>expensive
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>>143650058
>u're mum
>expensive
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odds i play ed
evens i go kb
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>>143647703
this is like a doedre's ring with a snakebite's (that doesn't require max frenzy charges) with half of a grace aura and almost 30 chaos res. if you're dealing chaos or phys damage, it's BiS, period.
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>>143649764
that's not how you spell sluts
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>>143650092
Ripped a ur mum off some Brazilian retard for 30c

Not expensive m80
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>>143650171
That reminds me, is Nessa still topless?
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Are his suspicions founded?
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>>143650396
i had 3 ex drops before i even spent a cent on poe
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>>143650396
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>>143650396
>been playing since 2012
>thousands of hours
>won demis
>haven't spent any money
>probably have the best RNG in poeg
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>>143650169
>FREE
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>>143650456
I've only had one ex drop while I was botting
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>>143650552
So what you're saying is that you need to play thousands of hours to come close to streamer RNG in a few hours?
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>>143650709
ya basically

if you want to get rich you need to stay ahead of the economy by being one of the first to reach high level maps and farming the shit out of them for valuable rares and uniques. a coil at the start of a league is worth a lot more than one a few weeks into the league
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odds i go slayer
evens i go jugg
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>>143650157
>>143651127
you can't reroll like that
idiot
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>>143651217
ugh, i just don't know what to play
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pls kill me
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>>143651365
Practice your payload skills for the new league
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>>143651984
I'd put my payload inside Tracer, if you know what I mean.
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does this game become even remotely difficult at some point?
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>>143652136
99% of the difficulty is coming up with a good build and grinding out the minmaxing of your character. The game has never been, and will never be mechanically difficult.
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>>143652136
The game's difficulty is directly related to your fps
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>>143652052
I'd deliver all their payloads if you know what I mean
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>>143652527
>ywn be smothered by Widowmaker's plump ass
why even live
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which would be better damage wise? chin sol+RT no ele overload or lioneyes glare+ele overload? latter got better prolif damage, first got better initial hit. also if i dont go for RT i can grab EE for reduction but that does jackshit for super overcapped enemies. planning a blast rain/vaal burny arrow trapper build. also couldnt decide between elementalist and saboteur. elementalist got smaller prolif range but 100% ignite/shock no dmg penalty but no trap cd recovery. saboteur got 10% additional fire dmg, penetration, chain trap detonation, trap cd recovery and by dumping mines/traps you can increase your aoe/dmg by a lot but doing that every 15 seconds is a hassle. also i need to use ele prolif which grants me a bigger prolif aoe which gets increased a lot by 4% per mine node. oh and does vaal BA explodes on every hit with pierce(like ice shot) or not(like fireball)
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>>143651984
>>143652527
id fuck their pussy till it drops if you know what i mean
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>>143652527
who is the one in pink?
i like the deep cleft in her ass crack
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>>143652880
get your eyes checked, it's purple, not pink
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stay on topic please
in this general we discuss poe
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>>143653243
they can post overwatch imo but only if it's overwatch sfm
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>>143653183
post the one where she gets her butt slapped :3
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>>143653016
her hair is purple
her suit is pink
get your brain checked, fucktard
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>>143653243

It's clearly a couple of autists circlejerking. Pay them no mind until the mods take away their pain.
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So, I need a build which:
1) Is continuous self cast/attack. Got sick of playing totems and traps, running around mobs waiting for them to die.
2) Has decent dps.
3) Is leech tank.
4) Is quite cheap, <10ex. Life-based preferred, Im afraid of getting perma stunned.
5) Has multiple layers of defense, i.e. HC viable.
6) Is not blade vortex. Ive played blade votex pathfinder a lot this league.
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>>143652136
If you're new then yes, in cruel and merciless you'll notice it get harder, especially if you haven't put much thought into your build
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>>143653842
are you my ex gf? you sound like a picky eater
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>>143652681
>does vaal BA explodes on every hit with pierce(like ice shot) or not(like fireball)
it works exactly like autistic arrow, ie explodes on every enemy hit and where you aim it at
traps aim close to themselves you you won't get any pierces, but if you use gmp all the arrows will explode at the same place and explosions will overlap
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>>143653842
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>all the poe streamers are playing overwatch now
>overwatch has taken over /poeg/ too
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>>143653243
Who is poe?
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>>143653842
EQ champion :^)
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>>143654039
some american writer
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>>143653968
yeah i know vaal BA dodged the shotgun nerf

>traps aim close to themselves you you won't get any pierces

i dont get this, please explain. what prevents them from piercing?
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>>143654017
fact: poe has outlived its initial hype appeal and has no place whatsoever in today's modern gaming

fun, rewarding, coop games like overwatch are the future
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>>143654065
But its not a
>continuous self cast/attack
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>>143653842
Straight health/armor tank ground slam/sunder/earthquake marauder seems what you want. You get massive amounts of survivability just by existing and you do decent damage, even more with berzerker. Cost almost nothing too.
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>>143653842
bladefall gladiator :^)
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>>143654120
>i can't handle ppl playing or talking about games i am not playing
fuck off you insecure 12yo fgt
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>>143654253
>tfw can't decide between endurance charge juggernaut and max block gladiator
Fug
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What are the classic budget builds people play at the start of a league?
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>>143654097
nothing, but projectiles explode and disappear when they reach their "target" (where you point your cursor when shooting it yourself, or in traps' case where the monster is standing) so it's just unlikely they'll pierce
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>>143654371
It changes quite a lot actually

Perandus league it was something like
Earthquake
Reave
Blade fall
Spark
Cyclone
Split arrow
And arc is always popular because of how easy it is
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>>143654645
>Cyclone
>Split arrow
>And arc
none of those were popular or competitive in perandus
you're like 1 league late
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>be me
>be bastion
>I pop tuturu and start shooting at the enemy genji
>genji pops reflect, I die to it
>reflect, I die to it
>reflect, I die
>reflect
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>>143654764
don't care
post more mercy
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>>143654724
>popular
Yes they were
>competitive
Who said anything about competitive?
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>>143652136
yes, play hardcore
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>>143654173
But which skill should I use so my dps wont suck? I mean, ground slam is just laughable. I was thinking about lacerate.
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>>143654447
oh ok, got it. does pierce double tips like fire damage?
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>>143654764
Just reroll the map
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>>143654371
Dual Flame Totem
Dual RF Totem
Firestorm
Explosive Arrow
EQ
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>>143654870
you can't do damage if you're dead
that's what my mother always told me
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>>143655048
But that's wrong, Cast on Death exists.
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>>143655906
talking about hc, you shitcrow piece of shit
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>>143656102

>ALT+F4 warriors
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when will hardcucks realize we keep them here just for amusement?
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>>143656225
>hurr alt+f4
>hurr logout macro
>hurr auto flask
>hurr skipping content
we've heard it all before
doesn't mean shit
won't make you any less of a scrub
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when will shitcrows stop shitting the bed for their own amusement?
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>>143655048
wew is this a hot new build you painted?
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>>143654645
>no blade vortex
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SHITCROWS OUT
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>shitcore vs alt-f4-core
>armour vs evasion
only by combining the two can you achieve true enlightenment

i play shitcore builds in hardcore and i combine armour and evsion because a hybrid defense is what works the best
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never forget
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i just play the game for fun, players like mathil inspire me to do this
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>>143654870
Both sunder and earthquake is good. Ground slam is usable but it's pretty bad.
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>berserker lets you disregard reflect maps entirely with vaal pact
nice
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>>143657049
so does elementalist
so what
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>>143653980
>someone saved my image
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>>143657049
reflect does not proc cloaked in savagery
for the last fucking time
idiots
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>>143657013
>being shit is fun
typical shitcrow excuse
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>>143657330
autism
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>>143657394
hahahahaha
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>HCucks thinks HC takes skill
>ZiggyD is the best HC streamer
>ziggyD
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>>143657049
>reflect is a "hit"

wew lad
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>why yes, i did spend $10 on a currency tab
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>>143658496

It's 7.50 if you can spend those last 25 points on something useful.
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>>143657330
if you don't have fun, why do you play?

it's not like you're getting any reward for playing the same identical game but spend all your effort making sure you don't die lol

it's like you want to walk in rain but don't want to get wet, i say ditch that family size umbrella, body size condom and snorkle and get fucking wet, get soaked and embrace the rain, fucking jump into the little ponds and while you're at it, jump into the one next to it aswell
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>>143658496

There needs to be a proper reaction image for wallet warriors who bought stupid shit like kiwis and wings.
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>>143657889
is that a korean loli trap?
reverse image search isn't really helping
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>>143659004
japanese
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>>143658887
challenging = fun
just kys shitcrow
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>>143659109
interdasting
got a name?
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Do summon builds suck?
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>>143659335

Totems are amazing and some people find MI to be a fun time.
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>>143659121
it's literally the same game lmao
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>>143659335
short answer: yes
long answer: mostly, yes
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>>143659445
>>143659658
fug, I'll never get D2 skeleton army again
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>>143659721
skellingtons do good dmg but are too slow to be useful
you will ragequit long before you get anywhere with them
best solo build with that kind of feel is animate weapon
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nice general poetards
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>>143659121
what's your best feat in hc? did you manage to hit 90 with your streamer build?

lol
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>>143659806
thanks I'll give that one a try
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DOUBLE
FLAMING
DONGERS
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>>143659834
>he thinks 90 is some kind of achievement
stay terribad, shitcrow
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I really fucking hate the fishing meme.
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>>143660289
your face is a meme
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>>143660289
Winding Pier Fame :^)
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>>143660375
>implying I have a face
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>>143659220
https://twitter.com/mojanajatama
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>>143660937
yeah, it's ok
i ended up finding it
no other good pics
pretty qt doe
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>>143660269
don't worry, there's cure for your >>143657394
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What supports would you get for Slayer IB on a 5L?
Also would you get AoF?
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>tfw not qt3.14 cosplaying slut to theorycraft prophecy builds with
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>>143663987
post his dick
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>>143664123
Lana rain is not a transvestite you fug
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>>143666083
why is she so perfect
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Got a question for defensive anons.
Can Abyssus/Hegemony be hc viable now if i use Headsman + Coil + 4 endurance charge+Balsat+Acrobatics+Fortify.
For example:
Abyssus(+43% roll) Coil(-30%) Basalt(-20%) 4endurance(-16%) Fortify(-20%)
=1.43*0.7*0.8*0.84*0.8
=0.538 of physical damage taken

>For red map reflect

=0.18*0.5*0.538
=0.048432
So if i have 6khp, to kill myself with reflect should be
=6000/0.048432
=123884.052 physical damage overall
right?
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>>143666558
Not quite right.
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Receiving_damage
Abyssus' increased physical damage taken and Fortify cannot be multiplicative with each other. They apply at the same time, thus are additive with each other.

So, instead of your erroneous formula of
>1.43*0.7*0.8*0.84*0.8 = 53.8% of physical damage taken
You actually take
>(0.7*0.8*0.84)*(1.43-0.2) = 57.9% of physical damage taken
Fortify would be even better than it is now if it were a straight 0.8 damage taken modifier, but it's not in the case of Abyssus, Berserker, Shock, Vulnerability, etc.

Other factors to consider:

How good is your uptime on flasks and Fortify? Are those reliable enough for you to run red maps comfortably?

Can you run vuln maps? (red map vuln: 28% increased phys damage taken iirc)

How much is your armour mitigating? Can you get enough armour to make it worth it?

How often are you evading your own reflect? Can you get enough evasion to make it worth it?

How often are you blocking your own reflect?
Hegemony's has 18% base block. Whirling Barrier cluster gives you another 10%. 28% of reflected hits don't go through. A perfect Rumi's can bring this up to 58%.

Then other factors such as leech (blasphemy warlord's mark, duelist leech nodes), regen (if appliable), crit reflect, CWDT IC uptime, etc. It's hard to know if it'll actually work unless you test it in-game and find your sweet spot.
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>>143663925
pls help a shitter
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>>143668197
To add to this, without running the math (that's your job), you should be fine. People ran phys reflect with Hegemony's+Abyssus before 2.3. They just pumped a lot of phys mitigation, Headsman and Coil should make this more than doable. I ran vuln phys ref maps on a phys caster all the time in 2.2 with no Coil and minimal armour and they were never an issue.
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>>143668891
I'm not sure if infernal blow uses multistrike for clearing, AoF seems interesting because then you could use fire penetration but it would be strictly worse on maps with EE and fire resistance. It would enable you to do phys reflect maps easily but would make ele reflect rares scarier.
Either way, you should be using splash or the impact node, and inc aoe probably, since it scales the AoE of the explosions which makes pack clearing much better. The other links should be melee phys and WED if you go AoF, then maybe added fire and fire penetration if you're AoF
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>>143669227
Thinking about using impact, I'm not worried about phys reflect since Slayer is getting 50% reduction on that. I thought maybe going with melee phys - WED - Added Fire and maybe inc aoe or fire pen.
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>nobody is making a Shield Charge build
And here I thought you are all hipsters.
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>>143669772
I'm going full autism and trying to hit 100 this league, no way I'm shield charging for 90 levels nigga that's dumb
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>>143669736
fire pen is not worth it if you go AoF. I definetely think inc AoE is a game changer, even if slayer already gets some: it's really good when you reach the point where with a single blow you can clear the entire screen with IB due to the explosions chaining
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>>143669772
i made one, but it doesn't look good desu
i won't share it here because i know reddit spies are lurking
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I hope EQ gets a 50% damage nerf
melee babbies need to be leashed
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>>143670469
no, just buff other melee skills
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>>143670469
please no
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>>143670802
he ran the wrong way
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>>143670802
>1435532798325.webm
>not louis_ck_and_big_black_oversoul.webm
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>Chris half-asses bug fixes patch notes
>says he's tired, going home and will finish tomorrow
Jesus Christ, how lazy can one person be? How is that fat fuck still in charge?
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What if we also have a gold golem which gives increase quantity and increase rarity. The golem doesn't attack at all but it collects currencies from the ground.

The AI for this is already done. A mob knows how to get to an enemy, but instead of enemy it will be an item and instead of attacking it, it will pick it up and add it to the owner's inventory.

Great for MF builds and people who want to pick up everything.

What do you think about this idea?
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Question, How effective is MI Allahu Akhbar build for shits and giggles?
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>>143671359
it's not bad at all
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>>143671359
not everything from d3 is a bad idea
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>>143671507
Not effective at all. It's impossible scale both minion life, thus scaling MI damage, and allow them to explode consistently, plus you're basically a summoner with no minions to protect you. It's trash. The only instance where it worked was when it was abused by LL Mirror Arrow trappers, but that was quickly patched/nerfed to the ground.

Mechanics that scale off monster life (DD, Profane Bloom, Abyssal Cry) have much more potential for a meme boom boom build
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>>143671650
>>143671359
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I'm confused, with the change to map naming which are now "tiers" does a t1 unique refer to a trash unique or a top tier unique like shavs?
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>>143672034
Tier 1 is the rarest kind of unique and has nothing to do with it's power level.
They are usually the good ones though.
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Why has TS fallen out of favor so much? It was top tier in 2.0 and it's stronger than ever with the new flasks and Deadeye ascendancy. What gives?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wddm_8KT8w
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>>143672623
cause other bow skills can offscreen, tornado shot was popular cause it had more damage than other skills and had much better single target but nowadays damage scaling is retarded and people use blast rain for single target.
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Why is flat physical reduction so damn rare? Who thought that -2 physical reduction would have any impact on anything at all? Something like -500 physical damage would be good, not having to corrupt a jaws of agony and an amulet with immortal flesh just to pass -100.
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>>143674148
Someone here doesn't remember old AA and how it made casters pseudo immortal against small to moderate phys hits
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>>143674232
Having a single spell that outclassed every single combined item damage reduction was a little silly.
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How likely do you get banned for botting?

I have no intentions of botting lategame, but the 1-40 is so fucking boring I'd fucking pull my brains out

I just want to get my early game done with
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>>143675035
high likely
just do ti manually, it shouldn't be more than 3 or even 4 hours if you're slow
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>>143675035
>1-40
It takes like 2-3 hours at most you fucking pussy.
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>>143675130
I'm going Phys 2h Cyclone, what skill is best for leveling up? Just Sunder -> EQ?
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>>143675343
yeah, cleave -> sunder -> EQ
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No but the mental retardation and brain damage that comes from having to do Cruel two times in a row (act 2 and 4 specifically) is bad for my health
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>>143675527
What do you mean 2 times in a row?
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>>143675705
like normal then cruel

if I only do cruel I'm okay
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>>143676145
I'd play Hardcore if Flicker was a viable build

Flicker is literally the most fun build in all ARPG games out there lelelelexd
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hypothetically you took no damage from anything

what's the best build for pure damage?
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>>143678338
Flicker VMS
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>>143678338
Dual strike :^)
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>>143676145
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>>143678338
Cast on Death
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>>143619309
they should rename it to saffell's skin trasnfer desu senpai
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RMT ruined the game right
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>>143680498
Yes, it's reallty good otherwise
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>>143676145
>hardcucks
the funny thing is
this new player
has more balls
than you ever fucking will
pathetic shitcrow
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>>143680743
>hardcucks think it takes """"""""""balls"""""""""""" to play a video game
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>>143680743
>Unironically getting mad over how others play a video game.
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>>143681748
>they want to slow down a face paced ARPG that is full of 1 shot bullshit outside of your control so they can play with chicken scripts with no fun builds

>all the best racers are hardcore poopsock pristige but have aura bots/precompiled groups of faggots rushing behind them picking up their items while standard players are more interested in having fun

It's almost like no one cares what hardtards say or do while playing path of life nodes
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>>143681748
>shitcrows are so insecure about being bad at videogames they have to call out some random guy on discord who is new to the game
fucking kill yourself, you pathetic virgin faggot
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>>143682113
>unironically being a shitcrow
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>>143682308
>unironically being a cuck
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>>143682148
>hurr you're bad at video games
>taking video games seriously
reminder that hardcucks are THAT pathetic
you probably also think of gaming as your hobby lmoa
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Why is normal Izaro impossible before level 50 or so?
Is this intended?

Also the labyrinth is fucking dogshit boring
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>>143682308
do a world a favor and shoot urself XDDD :DD :DDDDD :ddDD
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Post anons that you miss

>kissuattackposter
>vocaroofag
>soda
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>>143682148
>pathetic virgin faggot
Tell me about the laid you had cuck.
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>>143682492
i rather be cucked 50 times over than be so shit at videogames i have to come onto a mongolian imageboard and shitpost to overcome my insecurities about dying in a videogame little kids can play better than you
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>>143682546
>taking life seriously
i'm sure your mum is real proud of you
>m-mum, i met my shitpost quota today
>son, i'm so proud of you, now go to your room so i can cuck your pathetic daddy
shouldn't you have killed yourself already?
>>
notez mon dîner:
une "baguette" façon kébab, avec salade tomate oignons et une sauce harissa
+de l'alcool
+la solitude
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>>143682896
>video games are my life
why did i expect anything else from a hardcuck?
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>>143682771
>can't into punctuation
>can't into capitalization
When will you kill yourself catposter? We know you don't actually play hardcore.
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>>143682758
>laid you had
nice english, fucktard
go back to school because obviously pretending gaming isn't your hobby isn't working out for you
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Why is everyone always so mad here?
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>>143683004
>being the son of a cuckold
why did i expect anything more from a shitcrow?

>>143683025
>hurr durr i'm a big bad grammar nazi
lol, the fuck do i care, faggot
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>>143683168
kill yourself
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>>143683168
Because shitcrows can't deal with being bad at videogames, so being the 12yo shitstains they are, they have to lash out at strangers as a coping method.
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>>143683168
We're having fun, faggot.
At least I am. Because I play builds that aren't cookie cutter life node meta shit.
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>>143683168
Cause hardcucks are the most insecure babies. There are literally two (2) hardcore players from /poeg/ who actually consistently rank on ladder. The rest keep failing and just shitpost. It's our job to make fun of them, except most of the time that they don't even know they're being made fun of.
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>>143683168
hardcucks are letting off steam because, being ugly manchildren without interests, they can't do it irl
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>>143682704
i miss h4ns and esk

poeg will never be the same again without their autism and willingness to poopsock 16 hours a day to reach rank 1
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>>143683389
>>143683454
the funny thing is it is always the shitcrows that post bait for the hardcucks, but somehow us hardcore players are the bad guys?
give me a fucking break
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>>143683560
i bait only because one or two of you always falls for it :^)
sometimes it's almost too easy desu
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>>143683168
fuck off
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>>143683560
You can get a break by breaking your neck XDDD
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>>143683168

They are children of nature.

I do not know who/what they are IRL, but judging by their posts and language - a bunch of sad humans who cannot get their shit together or cooperate, or behave normaly.

Sad, sad.
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>>143683389
>ladder
how can a shitcrow even comprehend the concept of a fucking hardcore ladder when all they know is literally portal zerging to get through content
i am literally laughing my head of even trying to visualise a pea-brained shitcorer even contemplating the idea
what a fucking joke
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>>143683687
yeah, i don't mind the bantz sometimes, but one of you guys is a real fucking turbonerd and just doesn't know when to stop
when to stop making fun of themselves that is
lel
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>>143683892
How could you understand the concept of ladder when you, yourself has never been ranked? Checkmate dumbass.
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>holding an update hostage that can revive the game for a bit
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>>143683496
gb2plebbit if you miss hans the betrayer so much
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>r/pathofexile
busy theorycrafting, discussing game mechanics, posting creative OC, discussing the game and the latest news, tight community

>poeg
hardcucks vs shitcrows xDDD

Why do I even bother coming to this shithole.
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>>143684208
>Why do I even bother coming to this shithole.
To laugh at the cucks of course.
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>>143684208
good post
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>>143682704
i thought i had vocarooposters vocaroos saved, but i don't
i really used to look fwd to his voice recordings
i hope you are well, if you are out there, anon
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>>143684208
We had a good couple of threads before this.
Lots of build OC in Paint and other fun stuff.
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Standard is the best league.
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>>143684674
i just realized that since talisman and perandus wasn't and won't be added to the core game, standard babbies have basically been playing the same game for 6+ months
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>>143684837
well they got the labyrinth :^)
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>>143684837
It's okay. I play this game to RMT to Koreans buyers anyway.
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>>143684837
Tempest and Warbands are map mods only as well. So unless you pay up you won't see these either. And now with the new system who knows what kind of mods are available from zana
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>>143683892

Let me remind you that HC is not HC at all.

You get to keep masters/stash/achievements/challenges, even if you char dies. And when your char dies, he/she ends up in standard, instead of being deleted.

That shit is not hardcore. Now shut the fuck up.
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>>143685264
In b4 wiki autist is summoned.
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>>143685264
>And when your char dies, he/she ends up in standard, instead of being deleted.
which is still a direct loss, since you can't trade from standard to temp hc
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>>143685436

>which is still a direct loss

Yes and no. Mostly no. Why? Because you get to keep whatever is in your or guild's stash.
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>>143685612
but you're still losing everything that was poured into that one char, along with all the time spent leveling and mapping. PoE's "hardcore" might not be "true hardcore" but it's still more hardcore than dying in softcore
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>>143685264
>getting sent to shitcore paradise
>not immediately deleting your character because you wont play there at all
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>>143685963

Do you?

>>143685767

Nothing stops players to back up their gear or to save the best, or, like some guilds do, dupe the shit out of it, thus negating the loss of items. That is the mentality of HC. Dont try to argue that.
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How much longer can you see PoE going on? Right now it might be in a bubble of popularity and seem fine and dandy for the most part, but there'll surely be a point where playerbase starts declining and declining and support starts to dwindle.¨Personally I don't see it lasting more than 2-3 more years.
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>>143686326
>Do you

EVERYONE does. We just vaal our uniques and delete the character afterwards
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>>143680743
>>143682308
>>143682492
I actually am a hardcuck but I love to false flag to spark up some stupid sc vs hc shitposting, always make my day
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>>143687203
>Personally I don't see it lasting more than 2-3 more years.
I said this 2 years ago.
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How are Trapper classes these days? Is saboteur a good ascendency? Should I just go trickster instead?
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>>143688191
lol
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>>143687203

I think if GGG do things the right way - atleast a decade. There is a plenty of worldmap to cover, plenty of things to introduce, plenty of things to fix.
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>>143688191
Elementalists, sion and saboteur are all viable choices, just look up what you prefer the most
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>>143687203
Is that alkaizer?
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>>143683496
who and who
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me on the left
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQAALkdFeyK8OlGypCE2Ud-AdyplL02d-N4eodqZU2pbqknvqfAGnlohO94DW87wQSi6trBtfJfPxLhLlN07TWS9kgUIJLQ028FLf6P2L2Mz-8OXhN6703j_go9_FBHIVWmV_JFWGPkUdw9LPs64Webl3kHdYoirj4JlsCmJyDGrjkOC2HE9jwtr2yvp3Kpg19r2WjyHM6sqvcyNI7wHytQWfPqGHzZhjuiAA3Nnz4aOPjrUeZ2rASz_lQt0pBVu-3z3RRxd1O0L89-wGYnL5HOaGXZfDs7ITQ8BYIHnsVBP5_f73w=

fix my incredibly generic IB slayer tree
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>>143691862
looks pretty solid, I wouldn't really change anything
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>>143656572
I knew I forgot something
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What's a good build for a new player?
I want to get my wife's son into POE but I'm unsure how to ease him in the game.
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>>143693007
summoner
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>>143693007
You're wasting your time
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>>143691862
How do you deal with mana?
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>>143693505
was in two minds desu, assuming i can blitz through maps i should be able to become one with the gulp

if not, its 4 points for the duelist memeleech, could just squeeze that in there
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Never played a wander before, generally speaking how much accuracy do you need?
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>>143693505
>>143694304
Boots enchants /gloves with 0.4 mana leech is enought for everything except cyclone.
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>>143694964
yeah, i didnt think IB would be too bad to sustain because its not a constant thing

its really easy to respec into duelist shite if gulp fails, or until i get some leech on gear
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is it the worst unique in the game? discuss
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>>143695150
Of course not.
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>>143695150
>getting that 5 minutes into the 1 hr race as duelist
You've never competed for top 5 of class in have you?
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>>143669987
ayy, me too senpai. What are you thinking about hitting 100 with? Puncture Assassin is my go to, shud b gud.
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>>143695150
Lol no

That thing is great
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>>143695150
probably veil of the night
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>>143699151
Or Nomic's. Or Crown of Thorns. Or Immortal Flesh. Or Voidhome.

I guess they're all equally useless though since no one would every actually use them since they're actively a detriment.
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>>143701252
fuck off
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>>143701058
>>143701252
nice, fresh, i like it
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>>143701508
here is the final piece of the puzzle
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>>143701589
DEA? Fuck. Better hide my pot.
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>>143701589
DEA??? where is the last D
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>>143701739
the last hint is: every beginning is an end
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>>143702101
life and eath?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd0OC41s2go

Why are hardcucks so insecure?
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>>143703348
tl;dw

what was he whining about?
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>>143703509
random dude on the chat said his damage was shit
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How does he do it bros
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>>143703935
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>143703935
What's the context here?
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>>143704462
context is PT getting some boypuissy
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So I want to start playing this game, and I have a few questions.

1. In ARPGS I prefer to play seasonally. However I am aware the current league is VERY close to ending. Should I wait for the new league or play standard to get my feet wet.

2. Should I follow a build or try and wing it? I played 1000s of hours of Diablo 1&2 but I am aware PoE is EXTREMELY DIFFERENT.

From looking at gems rewarded to a character and the grid it seems like I can figure it out, but then once I start trying to research sub classes (Or Ascendant classes) I get bogged down.

3. Is there any class I should shy away from at first? Furthermore in your opinion what are the most successful newbie builds for each class.

Thanks for the advice.
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>>143704860
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Diablo_Player%27s_Guide_to_Path_of_Exile

Read the OP, use the planner there. Don't bother with Standard, just wait until June 3rd.
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>>143704860
1)yes

2)your first few characters will be shit. you can copy a beginners build from forums tho

3)just say what kind of character you want to play i.e. lightning caster 2h melee etc
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>tfw no facebreaker
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>>143705252
I really like melee character that use elemental strikes.

If not some kind of Ice Caster
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eggs
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>>143704860
1. You might as well start standard now and play a few hours to get a feel for thing. Try out some abilities and see what you like.

2. Fuck around a bit now and follow a noob build for league start. I know a lot of people say to go it alone but when I started I liked knowing that the build I was using was at least functional so I could focus on everything else there is to learn. You can make your own build on your later characters.

3. No. Try a couple of them now to see what you like to play. Spellcasters are noob friendly since they're less gear dependent.
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Do you think black people play PoE? Is Marauder their favorite class?
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>>143706481
VERY problematic
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lozii-Pgpb77D4Vk1J1clM_UT0cWz35LQ3Zv3Kmf0ug/preview?pref=2&pli=1

>The experience penalty for higher levels is now slightly higher. (This probably needs more detail)
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>>143706742
>Zana League Mods Available During 2.3.0:
Level 2: Rampage (Cost: 2 Chaos Orbs, +20% IIQ, Grants player Rampage)
Level 3: Bloodlines (Cost: 3 Chaos Orbs, +20% IIQ, 50% more magic monsters, all magic packs have a Bloodline)
Level 4: Torment (Cost: 4 Chaos Orbs, +20% IIQ, adds three Tormented Spirits)
Level 5: Tempest (Cost: 4 Chaos Orbs: +20% IIQ, Tempests)
Level 6: Domination (Cost: 5 Chaos Orbs, adds three Shrines (down from five))
Level 7: Ambush (Cost 6: Chaos Orbs (down from 8), adds three Strongboxes)
Level 8: Nemesis (Cost: 8 Chaos Orbs (down from 1 Exalted Orb), 50% more rare monsters, all rare monsters have Nemesis)

Do I look like I want to pay 2c for Rampage (useless mechanic), 3c for Cancerlines, or 4c for Tempest (useless mechanic)? Who approved this shit?
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>>143705420
there are little melee skills that have an elemental "feel" to it except frost blades and glacial hammer (lol) which are lackluster at the moment
eq is melee and op as fuck (at least before patchnotes) so you might have a look at that

freeze caster
theres a new skill comming up frost bolt + the secondary skill for that

as its a new skill its tends to be overscaled as fuck so it might be pretty great
the other freeze spells ( freeze pulse and arctic breath) are shit
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>>143706927
it was better before :(
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>>143706927
>free 6links
>useless mechanic

rest are pretty horrible i agree
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>>143706742
>New Monster Variations:
Due to the power creep from Ascendancy, Cruel, Merciless and Map content requires various rebalances. Rather than apply arbitrary buffs to life and damage, we have instead added monsters with new skills to higher difficulties, and have applied various corrections to specific monster skills.

So path of off-screening once more, where melee struggles and bow users shit on everything from a screen away GG
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>>143706927
>>143707098
nice game poetards
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>>143706927
RIP Varunastra
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>3c for cancerlines
>5c for domination
>perandus gone, no more free 3-4 packs per map
>exp nerfed at higher level
I prophesize leveling past 90 in prophecy is going to be a retarded grind once again
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>>143707276
Yeah, it's a good thing the most interesting unique they've made in the past 2 years isn't coming to the main game. I'd hate to be able to build around that.
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>>143707083
what are the chances of getting corrupting tempest though
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Any of you guys who play during the weekdays (and weekends I guess) from like 9 am to 5 pm (EST) want to team up for leveling when the new league comes?
I'm kinda new to the game but I got a firestorm witch, spark templar, and tornado shot ranger to 40 in HC perandus. I know that isn't impressive or anything but at least you know I'm not entirely green.
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>>143707083
>free
>1 chance out of ~100 to get Corrupting Tempest
>even if you do, extremely tedious to lure monsters into tempests
>even if you do, you're bricking 80% of drops
>even if you do drop a 6L, it's going to be a divine
>free

Remember those hours on Tempest when people would *avoid* a map because it had a cancer tempest for an entire hour? Now you can try your luck bricking your map yourself for the small price of 4c!
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>>143707471
Beyond gone too.
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>>143707794
>I got a firestorm witch, spark templar, and tornado shot ranger to 40 in HC perandus.
>I'm not entirely green.
Level 40 is like... 3 hours for an experienced player? You completed the normal mode of the tutorial part of the game. You're as green as they come, play more.
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>>143707471
if they slow xp without actually slowing builds it's going to make this game boring as fuck
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>>143708224
Come on, he's not that bad. At lease he has the concepts of socketing gems and other basics down. Especially if he did it on HC.
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>>143708297
or hardcore as fuck
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I miss beyond
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Is there any way to see recent changes to a google doc or do I have to autistically refresh and manually recheck everything
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>>143708224
>play more
That's what I'm planning to do...which is why I asked if anyone wanted to level with me. This isn't a singleplayer game, so why shouldn't I ask other people if they want to?
I guess if you're trying to "win" then you shouldn't level with me, but I'm trying to enjoy the game
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>>143708385
Grinding for 4 months to hit 100 isn't hardcore.
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>>143708385
no one wants to clear a map at mach speed and get .0001% xp out of it

if it's not actually hard to clear a map the game is just going to be tedious
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>>143708542
grinding is synonymous with hardcore, whether you like it or not

is good game design? probably not, but it's "hardcore" by definition, the same way completing a console game in 3 hours makes it casual
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>>143708524
Copy it into word and track changes on your own.
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>find Ruined Titan pack with 7 monsters
>3 of them use earthquake
>you die
what did chris have in mind while designing this?
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>>143708526
>he doesn't play to win
>he needs a babbysitter to teach him the ropes
top kek
try your luck with the reddit guild
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>>143707471
nigga bloodlines is great fucking news
>50% more blue packs
>for only 3c
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>>143708719
just another insult to the long list that evasion melee already has to deal with
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>respec standard character to test potential build
>it's absolute shit

we'll get another respec for prophecy r-right
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>>143708874
I want to get to the highest level possible, but by I'm not trying to win I mean I'm not trying to be the fastest person to do it.
I know that people bot - it's inevitable. I know that I cannot possibly beat those people so I just don't care.
However I do want to progress.

>babbysitter

Are you even aware that this isn't a single player game?
Besides what's the point of playing a game if you've already done everything there it to do in it? Wouldn't that shit be boring?
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>fat man back to "playtesting" instead of writing patch notes
so much incompetence
im back to playing overwatch
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>New map affix of the Shielding: every monster comes with Proximity Shield.
There, melee's balanced.
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I want to build the tankiest marauder, as I love tank characters even if they are somewhat slow on map clearance.
Is it going to take me to the big leagues? Or is it just a dream and the low damage will make enemies eventually overrun me?
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>>143709628
wouldn't do jack shit to trappers and cautistic arrow, but you do have a point there: the only way for melee to be balanced is to fucking nerf ranged into the ground
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>>143709679
You actually need that much damage to clear end game, although there is some merit to having high dps (dead monsters can't deal damage). Depending on your build, ~50k phys dps should be enough for up to t15s. Low dps isn't really an issue except in multiple phase fights (Atziri, Malachai) where being non-crit and having poor dps will make the fight longer and you more prone to a fatal mistake because you will have to manage flasks better
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>>143709809

This is true of most ARPGs with a sufficient enough endgame. Melee suffers because they have to be in face range with mobs that are designed to murder faces.
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>>143709564
>overwatch
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help me out with my autism please
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>>143711350
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>>143710210
I'm kinda new to the game, thanks anon.
Anything you'll recomend on skills? I was aiming for 1h mace earthquake
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>>143706927

WEW LADS 3 WHOLE STRONGBOXES.
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>>143711350
>>143711819
what the fuck is this garbage
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>>143711819
>>143711350
CIA as dominus
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>>143654253
Will this make a kind of "feedback-loop" if you attack reflect monsters while being block capped?
Raising your damage until you/they die.
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>>143713903
reflect is not considered a hit, so no
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i need the easiest cheapest leveling build for poopecy league
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>>143714464
Pick up whatever shit you find laying on the road then go murder people for more shit.
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>>143654253
No reason to go Glad over the normal Witch/Shadow.
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Random question I can't find the answer on google.

What happens if I have two spells linked to trap support? Does it cast both spells or just one of them?
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>>143714834
Both spells are now traps you can throw, with their own cooldown.
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>>143714834
Two separate spells show up with trap supporting them. What do you think happens if you link Added Lightning to Frost Wall and Contagion in a 3 link?
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>>143711819
memes
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>>143711350
>>143711819
>>143715056

what the fuck are you doing
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>>143715056
kstew should be the witch
also you put them in the wrong place
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>>143715056
>>143711350

we need some b-line actors so it won't be some hollywood shitfest desu
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>>143715056
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>>143715056
>>143716016
I don't know a single one of these people. Someone explain.
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>>143716016

looks good senpai. i mean do we even need any other characters?
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>>143716016


I can't fathom any movie that wouldn't be full of shitty CG
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>>143716704
Put the stray puppy down boys!!
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>>143706927
>They actually thought people would spend an exalt on Nemesis
Also 50% more magic monsters is massive.
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>The experience penalty for higher levels is now slightly higher.

oh so instead of 3 days of 3 minute gorge/plateau/lake/shipyard/springs/waterways/etc runs, we just do 6 days of 3 minute map runs.

Good challenge.

Now we just autopilot 1 button clear maps while watching porn for a bit longer.

These devs truly are brainless fucks. They should've undid the exp nerfs on t12-t15 maps cause nobody runs that shit outside of waterways/shipyards cause of exp-hour issues,
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>>143718204
>choose the path of least resistance
>complain when the grind is now twice longer
you probably don't realize the irony about complaining about "autopiloting" maps

maybe try to run maps that challenge your build instead of risk free gorges and plateaus
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>>143718204
Why the fuck are you even grinding xp anyways if you don't enjoy it. You don't get anything for reaching 100.
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>>143718502

>level 98
>do easy maps
>30mil an hour
>do coliseum/core/abyss
>15mil an hour
>post nerf
>do gorges
>15mil exp an hour
>do cores
>7.5mil exp an hour

Yeah why would I want to be a cuck "just to challenge myself"

Stop being a dumbfuck here and go stroke your bull instead.
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>>143718636
he's the kind of retard who will autopilot 156465456456465465 gorges to 100 so he can boast the game is "2 ez" now
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>>143718636

ok ill just play path of trade instead.

since the games just about ranking up/winning alternate art rewards.

Or if you have under 90 iq, play around in standard where you can buy multi t1-t2 rolled 6links for 5 exalts.
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>>143718796
Because then you'd be actually challenging yourself, and, oh my god, have fun? The moment you start treating the game as a long tedious grind of piss easy maps is the moment you lost sight of why you're even playing it in the first place. But why am I even wasting my time with you, you're a shitcrow optimizing his build for gorge speed runs, and not red map viability, no wonder you're only pulling off 15 mil / hour in t15s
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>t9 maps give better xp/hr than higher maps

uhhh poetards????????????
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>>143718796
If they do increase the penalty at higher level, lower maps will be hit harder, no matter how fast you speed run them. That's how exp penalty works. The closer you are to the area level, the less you're hit with a harsh exp penalty.
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Low-tier maps: Run for lab then forget about
Mid-tier maps: Best in every regard
High-tier maps: Sell to stupid goyim
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>>143719309
>>143719463
Check out havoc's VODs if you want an example of a non-shit build exp/hour at high level in red maps. He was resetting his exp/hour with every map to check which were the most efficient. I think he was averaging 40-45+ million / hour at level 99 in t14s. The guy above who claims you only get 15 million / hour in t15s at level 98 is either a shitcrow pulling numbers out of his ass or someone with a nice build taking 20 minutes to clear a map, literally at least 3 times slower than havoc.
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>>143719814
>top 5 builds get good xp/hour in high maps

no shit

why do you think it got nerfed so hard
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Why do all (most) PoE streamers look like jacked up steroid addicts?

How do they stay fit playing the game all day?

I expected them to be fat
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>>143719865
>waaaaaah my shit build is too shit to run red maps efficiently, so I have to settle on gorges/plateaus any braindead tabula character can faceroll, and now it's getting hit by exp penalty waaaaaah
Get a better build, retard.
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>>143719961
who? only one i can think of is mathil the shitcrow
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>>143719961
most of them are skinnyfats
only mathil is fit but even then he's DYEL fit
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>>143719865
>good builds do well
>bad builds don't do well

not really sure where you're going with this
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>>143720143
>>143720063
no like random dutch/german ones that I go into with 10~5 viewers, they literally look like arnold schwartznegger
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>>143719987
>>143720226
there is a fucking problem with the game when 99% of the builds perform better running low maps at 95

people get bored after 4-5 weeks because this game has shit for skills
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>>143720226
He wants the game to be balanced around blood rage attack speed stacking whirling blades vaal haste gorge speed runs.
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>>143720276

theyre preparing for the bloody revolution that will kill all the refugees.

Guns aren't as easy/legal in europe so you gotta roid up and rely on melee weapons, muscle give a defensive boost against those as well.
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>>143720357
Which is... good? That means 99% of builds hit their soft cap of level 95 because red maps are inefficient for their shit build, either because it has too low survivability or too low dps. Of course gorges and plateaus are going to be more efficient if you take 15-20 minutes per red map. This is a natural filter to shit builds, how exactly is that a problem? If you want to get out of the trudging feeling of chaining 20 maps who don't challenge, GET A BETTER BUILD.
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>>143720737
>everyone running the same 7 builds past 95 is good
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>>143720143
I love this "if you're not juiced up to the tits 24/7 you're a dyel" meme
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you can run red maps as if they were gorges or plateaus with a support.
And don't fall for jewish tricks, ice shot quill rain curser > guardian aurabot
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>>143720865
>No exile left behind!
>Everyone should faceroll t14s and pull 50 mil / hour because... reasons!
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>>143720983

Standards are much higher now than before.

Look at 1950s superman/batman actor compared to today.

And those guys are fucking dyel compared to the average physique model.
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>>143720997
>hit 95
>want to play a new, good build
>but also want to run high maps

now you have a choice of 5 other skills to play

you already played 3 of them before though

but who cares, it's good if only a couple builds can run red maps right
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>>143706927
>3 chaos to add adittional magic packs
I'd pay for that, cheap price for help to sustain red maps
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>>143720983
you can be fit and dyel mode

featherweight boxers and climbers are fit and dyel mode because the extra body fat is detrimental to their performance

it's not meant as an insult
I wish I could be mathil fit
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>>143721104
Yeah, it's sad.

>>143721291
You do realise that muscle gain is incredibly slow, right? Try lifting weights for a year and see for yourself.
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>>143721195
so then make a 6th build you shitter
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>>143721195
I don't know if you're just projecting hard, but hardcore players have been asking for an exp penalty because level 98s chaining gorges and plateaus is ridiculous. If there's no end game to strive for, then it all becomes meaningless. The good builds in 2.2 only had the luxury of hitting 100 a week earlier than shit builds. Maybe that's your idea of an ideal PoE and for that reason you don't want it to change.
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>>143721618
did you quote the wrong post or are you just retarded
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>>143720143
>skinnyfats

i don't get this. i'm a skinnyfat and i can run a <7min mile, do 50+ pushups/situps, 20+ pullups, etc and my lifestyle is completely sedentary

there's no such thing as skinnyfat
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If Warriors win I'll buy a supporter pack.
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>>143704579
that looks like a girl though
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>>143721674
I quoted the right post, you're complaining about end game seemingly be too hard and only reserved to a handful of builds that can afford to be efficient in t12-t14s. I ask of you then, do you think a game where chaining gorges and plateaus at level 98 is still exp efficient somehow something that should be left unchanged.
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Hey guys, it's me. The tree that Yeena calls Lorrata.
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>It's another fucking welfare league
Oh my fucking god, I just want to play the game for a week, make an absolutely silly amount of currency and fund meme builds for a month before quitting and waiting for the next league, why do we get two welfare leagues in a row. Fucking kill me.
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>>143721718
if you can do all of those, i doubt you're actually skinnyfat, just skinny
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>>143722067
what's the difference? i thought skinnyfat = skinny but out of shape. i'm just saying there isn't a single plane of reality where a skinny person could be in worse shape than a fat person, so the term skinnyfat makes no sense.
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>>143721958
>
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>>143722227
lel

skinnyfat is that condition where you don't exercise, are skinny but still have a bloated belly (because no abs muscles)

this is what most gamers look like
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So for tempests, you only really get one chance to get a good tempest per map, right?
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>>143722394
i've literally never seen a skinny person with a gut
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>>143721743
not looking too good senpai
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>>143721916
inefficient != too hard for my build, but the point is why would you run high maps if they're not efficient?

but as soon as you nerf the xp from running gorges and plats at 96, fireball and wild strike builds disappear 100% because they're not strong enough to run red maps efficiently. and no one is going to want to play inefficient builds when they can just pick spark, flameblast, earthquake, bladefall, coc, or whatever is top of the line in 2.3

there needs to be an adjustment to the xp penalty because running 76s at 97 is fucking retarded but you need to change shit so people can actually run more than 10 skills into the endgame
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>>143722778
>I want all skills to be created equal
stop embarrassing yourself
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>>143722872
where did i say this????????????
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>>143722872
no where did he say he wanted all skills equal

he just wants the gap between elehit and vms or volt spark lessened.
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>>143723069
lol
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>>143721743
screencapped
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>>143723857
>>143722676
lol fug
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>tfw you tell mathil his build is shit and he actually responds
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Since GGG is gonna force everyone to run insane shit rolled t14-t15 maps instead of facerolling gorges, it kinda sucks people are just gonna do the meme discharge juggernaut that 1-skills the whole map.

Only undoable map is the reflect + max resist down combination. regular reflect is fine with purity-phoenix.
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>>143724423
>meme discharge juggernaut that 1-skills the whole map.
>redditshits actually believe this
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Did my first Atziri normal run today, died 3 times, mostly for bleeding.
Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong?
Should I drop this build when next season comes? Would you change anything on my passive tree?

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Sagui00/characters

Current Tree:
poeurl.com/DUE

Level 100 Tree:
poeurl.com/DUG
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>>143724423
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>>143724638

>wut is math, hufrf durrr durr brrrr
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>>143724404
what did he say
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>>143724769
>died 3 times, mostly for bleeding
How the fuck do you die to bleeding?
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>>143724961
lmao
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>>143725382
I don't know how it works, but it drop my life almost instantly. I'm now running 3 life flasks to stop bleeding
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>>143724769
>Llife: 4317
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>>143720983

If you don't look like jeff seid you can't really claim to be /fit/, sorry.

Guys on the right are what people who go to the gym 1 times a month and do 5 pushups look like when they claim "they're fit".
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>>143725771
It's 4436, now.
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>>143726084
>Hard work
>Roids
:)
>Non-roids = not lifting
ebrytiem
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How the fuck a gladiator can die from bleeding,
I mean,that shit hit only hit me for 2k with 10karmour
Let me see
>Claw,Dagger & sword critical node, Accuracy
>with Resolute technique.
>Golem without CWDT
>WB without Attackspeed
desu, you should switch Command of Steel, Fitnesse Weapon Artistry from ranger to Santuary, Amplify, Discipline and training from templar.
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My Juggernaut RF Discharge build. Normal meme unique phoenix shield + blood dance.

Anyone got any comments? It's a rough outline of it.

http://www.poeplanner.com/AAEBAQAAb8bYWGM9_MRY9khfPxQg7w5QRykuVw2WbJHOu-3ZYa2Nz37zm2hl0iHyQYIHGS4n7QYO1HwJ9sT2xq4MXxynU6ULYa9saPJ8DqdVW6DwH6IABLPAZjwF73yf35o7gpvsODrYAZEt0icvkFUaOIV7ZlRhIYTv2sF07QUteu-i6hLh-ehodNpiQYe3Pv4K2L3yRTrhpldN4zWS_o_xrC5T0288LYNfg8wYVhpVNugB5xRN_Eu8nxiRpzCezZ_LfLgaPmSjAdyE2Ud-vTZlTb6nwAEGxl2k3dXzjfSD97kWuw==
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>>143727017
>poeplanner
not even going to bother
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>>143726995
meant for
>>143724769
>>143726141
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>>143726995
Atziri Cycloner applies CB stacks, armour is irrelevant
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Why are people hyping up Juggernaut?

The only thing I see out of Juggernaut is discharge
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>>143725726
Use fucking staunching flasks.
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>>143727293
8 point builds are all good on him
endurance buff also helps with immortal call

3 huge or good ascendancy buffs

1% increased Attack Speed per 100 Accuracy Rating

If you would gain Endurance Charges, you instead gain up to your maximum number of Endurance Charges

25% increased effect of Fortify on You
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>>143725103
>Judging a softcore build at level 70 based on hardcore endgame parameters. Equally as impressive.
hit a nerve there
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>>143726995
Made this based on your suggestions. Please check it, senpai
poeurl.com/DVi

>WB without Attackspeed
Can't sustain it without blood magic

Would you suggest any changes related to my gear? Was thinking about Aegis Aurora but I'm affraid of spending all that I have for the gear and it end up being bad

Thanks for your time
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>>143706927
>no beyond
fuck this, i'm out
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>patch notes aren't out
>people are planning builds
>they're planning them around extremely rare drops
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>>143727697
why wouldn't you just get berserker with vaal pact and become invincibe?
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>>143728702
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Caktuzz/characters
My build for 2weeks flashback hc, no struggles for mana just 0.4% leech. 6.7khp with ming's heart. 70/70 block without anvil. 32kdps with hatred,50k with concentrated effect. 68k pooping flask.
I
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>>143729005
I messed up that tree, updated one
poeurl.com/DVr

Thanks again for helping a pleb
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>>143729005
May I ask how much energy shield you have?
I can see that only your shield gives you ES.

Really like that tempest shield + enfeeble setup, too bad my gear is corrupted
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>>143728787
>patch notes still aren't out yet?
Didn't that rabbi say he was making a video of him typing it out?
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>>143730043
You can use Hypotermia instead of attack speed, will trigger if you keep using hatred.
800 Es
>pic related
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>>143731284
>level 98

OH MY GOSH! SO FUCKING VIABLE AMIRITE
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How fast would a 100k dps self cast 84% aoe bladefall clear things? (160k with conc eff)

>7.5k life
>15k armor and vaals pact to counter reflect rares (plus rumis)
>100% life leech when hit with a savage blow, making you stand toe to toe against ~most endgame bosses np

Can sacrifice ~20% dps and run determination for 25k unflasked armor for some really heavy hitters like trio or ele reflect maps.

>hurfdurf go remote mine bf instead fur uberzz

THAT SHIT IS TEDIOUS!
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>>143617669
Would a duel wield crit claw cyclone build work?

Looking to use rive claw with the updated assassin ascendancy class and take noxious strike and the node behind it for ebin bleed/poison damage. I figured cyclone would work because it procs a lot of hits
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>>143735130
Might actually be cool. Don't forget that procs don't matter so much with poison, it's the damage as well.
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>>143735545
Im looking for ways to incorpate the new toxic delivery node effectively. Also would less duration work for any skill that would bleed/poison? Im wondering if i attach less duration to cyclone that the bleed/ poison from te skill get the more damage multiplier.
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>heretics
>caspris
>lvl4 enlighten
>skyforths

quadcurse+aa

i know what i'm playing next league
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>>143736960
>skyforths
>implying the game isn't over by then
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>>143736891
Less duration seems pointless on those sorts of DoTs (temporary) You get more damage in say 1.5 seconds but about the same for the full duration. Overall, your DPS will sometimes increase and usually be about the same. For supports you want very strong gems, not maybes or sometimes.
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>>143736960
t. embryo
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>>143738043
spelling is still fucked
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Can anyone fucking explain why there's no "place mine UNDER YOUR FEET" command?

Like holy fucking shit are they THAT incompetent at developing a game engine?
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>>143738193
mines should be removed from the game
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>>143737642
shitcorw

>>143738193
scrubshit
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>>143738193
There is a very easy way to do it. It's habbit for me now days
>>
are there any good CI builds now?

or does shavs just make it irrelevant?
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>>143739448
the fuck
shavs is for low-life builds you nitwit
>>
Planning on no lifing it during the start of Prophecy and can't decide on a build.

With the upcoming changes in mind, what is a good build that isn't hard to gear?

Was thinking of something with the Slayer
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>>143739643
you can't fucking read.

He is asking if CI builds are any good nowadays or does shavs make them shit

you nitwit
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>mfw voltaxic spark, scolds VMS, coc discharge are still OP fotm next league despite nerfs
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>>143739749
shavs has got nothing to do with ci you fucking retard as it has fuck all es on it nowadays
fucking noob cunt
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>>143739761
Patch notes aren't out yet bro :)

Just kidding they'll still be #1
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>saboteur (the trap/mine "specialist")
>get a bit of non-multiplicative damage
>can get 10% penetration and 2 wasted points on "muh blind"
>can go full "muh blind" for 4 points, no real difference

>occultist
>8 points well spent
>stacking hugeass insane shit ES regen for killing mobs
>get uninterruptible ES regen for 4 seconds if you manage to not get hit after 1.3 seconds(while hurt)
>enemies literally blow up for like 25% base hp in an aoe with some poison/aoe nodes
>+1 curse and an insanely high stacking 4% more chaos buff as you kill mobs

Yeah. thats like, totally good design. thank you balance team.
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>>143739978
Blind is an underrated defense.
There's a reason stibnite flasks and smoke clouds are so good.
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>>143739810
they'd have to provide a good alternative but they can't/won't
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>>143740557
or they could gut it and let it rot just like literally every other nerf they'd made
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>>143740317

>implying bladefall traps dont literally just clear the screen anyway

Blind is good when you want to facetank or at least semi tank high end(trio/daresso/kaom) for a few seconds as they get raped by your swords.

sure as fuck not better than occultist.

and i can just fucking use the stibnite flask on the actual bosses I care for anyway instead of gimping 4 points for it since its 100% useless on trash/magic/rares.
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>>143740317
blind + evasion + dodge is insane

There was a colliseum a guy couldn't do cause he had to log out that was one of the daresso pits loaded with monsters in a -max no regen map and he asked for help

Just went in and popped my stibnite and i never got hit lol
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>>143740621
but then >>>>muh nerfs
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Does Bladefall work properly with Spell Echo or is it still bugged?
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Does the new reworked "bane of legends" node work in PvP? That is to say, does the "kill enemies that have 20% or lower life when "hit" part work on other players?
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>>143741178
>poe pvp
for what purpose?
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>>143741178
culling strike does, so this one should as well

not that it matters, because you can't take ascendancies for low level pvp and in high level pvp you'll be oneshot from offscreen by inquisitor spark/frost wall la before you even get a chance to make use of it
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>>143741825
35 for merc in pve, so probably the same for pvp
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>>143741353
It looks like you could have 4 ascendancy points at 20 and all 6 at 35.
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>>143741979
low level dueling characters are explicitly forbidden from entering cruel or picking ascendancies
you simply can't queue up if you do these things
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>>143741979
You could probably level up to do all 4 labs and then delevel to do low level pvp
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>trying to help my friend do his challenge at the last minute
>the only bottleneck is Darsia Perandus
any tips? we've just been running maps for days
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>>143742043
>>143742043
>>143742043
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>>143742327
merc solaris 1&2, I went 16/16 guardians there.
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>>143741353
Spark is pretty garbage in PvP, believe it or not, even before the semi-recent PvP-scaling nerf. All it did was weed out the Leo-grinding shitters. Same with trying to use something that requires frostwall to function well like EA or kenetic blast since anybody with half a brain will move out of the way if they can't tank it.

>>143742050
This is true, but only applies to people that play best-of-seven. PvPers that prefer Sarn Arena can be up to level 40 and have ascendancy points without being barred from entry in Normal.
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>>143742578
you can get the higher leveled ones in solaris?

really??
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