/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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Dicholas

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reminder

reminder to report and ignore shitposting

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>>143499139
In December of 1924, after almost three years of taxing work, every French army, colonial and home, has been fully refitted with modern equipment and support personnel. The task was immense, but the French General Staff can now pat themselves on the back: they have helped to give France the indisputably most advanced army in the world.

Each army is comprised of 24,000 infantry, 6000 airborne support personnel, 9000 tank and 9000 artillery support personnel, and 3000 special engineering personnel. The General Staff is confident that, while almost numbingly expensive to maintain, France's armies are now once again the ideal standard, perhaps for the first time since the days of Lyautey's reforms in the mid-1800s.

The battle for military funding is not yet over--Napoleon V is now haranguing Maurras and the Assembly both to ensure that he has sufficient funding for a "significant naval expansion" to help challenge British dominion of the seas--but, for now, everyone can take a well-deserved break.

And me too, shit goddamn. That was taxing as hell, I barely got through 2 3/4 years this whole fucking day.

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NOTHING CAN STOP THIS TEUTONIC ADVANCE

>>143501861
>91 stack
That's a big army

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pls preorder hoi4

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>>143501783
The

WORST

General

>>143501958
shit meme shit borders

>>143501958
What mod

>>143501861
Are you in debt?

>>143502115
robmod

>>143501970
U U
U U

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>>[V2] - Legacy of Slovenia v1.01
http://pastebin.com/72Yhqm5i

>>[V2] - unHPM v1.3.1
http://pastebin.com/zK3YrpNx

>>[V2] - 7 Years v0.3
http://pastebin.com/tsPsr70u

>>[V2] - Robmod v2.4b
http://pastebin.com/MHswMhZi

>>[V2] - Visegradmod v3.2
http://pastebin.com/C8swKB9t

>> Updated Waggle Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/33A7wXdB

>>143501958
>that romania

>>143502209
thanks rob

>>143501970
4U

>>143502209
Based Cobra

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>>143502319

Will the new tech system improve eu4?

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-26th-of-may-2016.937696/

For those who missed
Update the link in the OP, OP

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>>143502319

>>143502416
Yes. But it won't be enough. Also, there's gonna be a GP blob in india or china every fucking game now.

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>>143501958
ITS A GERMAN WAR DANCE

>>143502046
Russia isn't controlled by me, White Russia won the civil war.

>>143502115
WW1 mod for HoI3, it's pretty railroaded though, you're forced to declare war on Montenegro, Greece always goes allies, and nobody ever joins the central powers.

>>143502269
It's historical, although romania should have moldova

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Bucharest_(1918)

>>143502518
How so?

>>143502416
Maybe, but it's hard to say
I think it can end up locking non friendly nations out of tech
Or punishing non colonial nations

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Wagglers are a necessary evil to cleanse shit threads of even shittier posters.

good job

>>143501970
They're actually 51 stacks, anon.

But don't worry, I have like 25+ of them.

>>143502143
Nah, I can finance them with good income when they're at 10% supplies. It's when they go to 100% and it costs me like 17,500 a day when things start to get dicey.

>>143502554
Its still pretty shit looking

>>143502209
>mfw I've created this pasta with just unHPM trying to legitimately help unHPM with his mod
I've never thought that it would result something with all mememods that gets constantly shitposted 2bh.

>>143502681
Yeah but did the last war leave you in debt?

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Who /waggler/ here?

>>143502569
The starting rulers on some indian nations have fucking insane stats. Without a starting tech penalty, they'll keep up much longer. Also some of the conditions are basically based on wealth, and a larger indian nation can easily have the biggest trade node for instance. So they'll have an easy time getting the new tech stuff spread to them.

>>143502013
>go to /his/ to redpill them with my righteous opinions
>get banned for racism
Holy shit, the memes are real.

>>143502554
No I'm talking about your borders

>>143502851
Shit, maybe they will balance it out

>>143502762
No, I've only been in debt like twice the whole game, and it was no more than like 2k each time and I paid it off instantly.

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>>143502787
more like /putmyhelmteonbackwards/

>>143502757
>unHPM
>not a meme mod
If it wasn't a meme mod why didn't he call it something else?

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>>143502554
France is dead, only one more left

>that luxembourg
wew

>>143502727
What do you expect from """roman"""ians

>>143502946
Yeah, with ukraine it looks pretty bad. I would release them as a puppet if I could keep Galicia.

>>143502964
The screenshot of the spread showed korea and south india having all 7 spread to them while eastern europe and spain didn't. So, yeah.

>>143503163
The mod covers WW2?

>>143503040
>shit
I only posted HISTORICAL FACT, it's not my fault the Jews have been banned from literally all of europe at one time or another.

>>143502757
>>143502209
>>143502209

Why is 7years considered a meme mod while napoleonmod isn't?

>>143503102
Initially he tried other names but unHPM seemed the best one at that moment. But now he is apparently using unHMM, which seems better.

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No matter how hard Reddit shills against waggling, Willy always saves the day.

>>143503242
What exactly did you post?

>>143503291
It was made by the leader of the discord shitposter group

>>143503291
It is not, but for some reason (read R&I autist) it is not allowed in the OP.

>>143503291
7years is too much absurd, while napoopan is reasonable and plausible.

>>143503320
Good interracial poster
>>143503040
Bad soon-to-be interracial poster

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>>143501643
>feel like reliving the golden days with EU3
>open archive
>.bin

>>143503496
why is France winning the Napoleonic wars reasonable and plausible but France winning the 7 years war not reasonable and plausible?

>>143503291
it isn't, it used to be in the OP until it became known the modder is the owne rof the discord group

>>143503641
because a revolution is required for a country to be truly a winner B)

>reform rome in ck2
>import into eu4
>about to hit the end date
So if I port it over to Vicky2, will the Roman Empire be there? Because I'm going to take this all the way to HoI3 if I can.

>Steamgruppe
>/gsg/ MP
>Radical Yugoslavia
>Discord

Will gsg ever catch a break? Or will we finally stop pretending that shitposting isn't part of the essence of this general?

>>143503641
It's not France winning that isn't reasonable, but the way the fucking mod itself is organized. It's bugged, bareboned, incomplete and shit in general.

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history buffs will always be the biggest shitposters

>>143503875
Don't forget the hivemind shitposters.

>>143503903
so it could possibly be considered a shitty mod, but not necessarily a meme mod

>>143503395
I'm just meming, I can't even remember what exactly what it was, I was discussing whether the Nazis or the Soviets were worse with a gommie and he said that thr nazis put 6 gorrillion of their own citizens in camps so I said that the Jews were not German, they're a parasitic disease which attaches itself to a host nation, degrading it's national values and conciousnessbefote moving on to it's next prey.

>>143503596
>not knowing how to pirate

>>143504035
Ah yes, Freelance Shitposters (mostly allied to Rad Yugo) and the liquormemers branch of the Discordians.

>>143504113
fuck me for assuming the archive should suffice

>>143504047
Yes, but it's both shitty and meme because of meme decisions, meme borders and meme events.

>>143503847
yes though I fail to see why would do that

>>143504246
You still needs the tools to pirate, the archive just gives you the files

>>143504259
blobbing probably

>>143504492
>rome with pops
I don't know, I can see the upsides.
>muh slaves

>5th game in a row where not enough iron is being produced in time for me to be able to upgrade my fucking factories

HPM please... Or am I'm just too good at industrializing?

>>143504667
>Or am I'm just too good at industrializing?
>I'm so good I don't know how to do it

>>143504667
Peak in demand can happen

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>>143504072
Holy shit

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>>143503163
Time to take back our rightful territory

>>143504887
>Im so good at industrializing that the entire world runs out of iron

ftfy

>>143504667
>>143504887
>>143505215
It's literally you. Lower your tariffs until you get your factories made, you fucking mongoloid.

>>143505115
Are you laughing at the cringeworthy righteousness oe the ban?

>>143505215
Sounds more like the rest of the world is so good at industrializing that they're running themselves out of iron.
Unless you're a gross nation like China or something and you're building a massive industry without researching the iron production techs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2V9IE-BqRs

>>143505975
Wilhelm the great?

>>143504184
We are allied to no one, as we are free men.

>>143505456
Nope, played as Germany this time and was way ahead of anyone else in all scores and techs. Had about 40 factories that were full and needed upgrading but no iron.

Same thing happened last week when I played Cuba and USA. There just isn't enough iron being produced

>>143505417
>No new posts
t. phd in liquornomics

>want to listen to history ASMR whilstplaying gsg
>only history asmr is male
>not confident enough in my sexuality to listen to a male voice seductively whispering about serfdom in early modern prussia
Wat do, lads?

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>>143505156
beautiful

India is completely occupied, as well as burma

In 4 months I'll just lower britains unity so they surrender, they cant win anymore

>>143507418
ur gay lad

>>143507418
>asmr
Kill yourself

>>143507914
what is asmr lad?

>>143507418
>history ASMR
explain yourself lad

>>143504072
truu

>>143508468
>>143508432
If you don't know what ASMR is it's basically that feeling you get when you pee on a cold day and you shiver, excspt brought on by sounds. Whispering with lip smacking can do it, rqin, tapping, lots of things.

The problem is there is this big history channel for ASMR, with this french person whsipering seductively about history, which would be great, but he's male. And getting tingles from a man would be GAY

>>143508842
nothing gay about being gay bro.

>>143508842
you're fucking gay because of ASMR not because you like men's cocks

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I'm mopping up the last holdouts that are resisting the Greater East Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere.

I could use some help naming the following planned puppet states:

>An insultingly colonial Indochina type client state composed of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia

>A medium sized chinese client state centered around Beijing

>A small client state occupying the Johore/Northern Malaysia area

>>143509209
pew
tew
lew

>>143508912
t. milo yebrewopolis

>>143509209
>Manchuoko
>not Manchukuo

lmao

just lmao

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>>143509209
>>143509704
>Manchuoko
man chew uk oh

>>143509704
>nip nap nop
The only name he needs to remember is Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft.

>>143509704
I'm not good at naming oppressive Japanese client states, thats why I asked for help. Is Mengjiang right at least? And how is Nanjiang as a name for a southern puppet state centered on Nanjing (orange)?

>>143510069
Other names used are the Republic of China-Nanjing, China-Nanjing, or New China.

google it matey

or

use ur imagination.

>>143510354
My imagination isn't helpful, as its in english. Rep China-Nanjing and the other variants are too WW1/WW2 era specific, thats why I didn't use them.

New China isn't quite right for the EU4 map. It translates to Shin Chūgoku in google, I might use that. Also considering Chūgoku Pekin (China-Beijing)

>>143510654
If you're going by localized names rename Manchuria to Manshū and Vietnam, Annam

>>143510654
Land of the fallen sun?

>>143510995
I might do that for Annam. I'm going to rename the Malaysia area Syonan-to, so the only ones I need to figure out are the Beijing and Canton centered client states.

Whats the equivalent of Manchuoko that might be used for those two areas?

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There's nearly 6 million people living here. If La Plata unified right now, it'd have 100k pops less than them.

>>143505423
yes

>>143511295
Dunno, can't help you there. I only really have read much about WW2 Imperial Japan and Warlord China. That is the extent of my knowledge.

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why

why is vanilla so goddamn retarded

I didn't even start the blobbing into persia thing, that just happened and then I jumped on at the very end

I just got out of a war to get basra back from spain after they colonized it form me, and I thought well I'm civilized now so I shouldn't need to worry about niggers blobbing into me
but no russia wanted basra for some fuck reason

>>143513529
The Secret War

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>>143512797

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>>143513732
>Kingdom of Timbuktu
I miss the AI releasing those gross little shits desu

>>143513732
WE

>>143513732
>kingdom of timbuktu
*smacks lips*

hol up

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Who should I play in nWo?


NO memes

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>>143514242
Belgium

>>143514242
Germany and conquer Poland

>>143514242
Israel, 1992 start date

Encourage max globalization and puppet USA and European Federation.

>>143514242
Comfy Thailand desu

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>>143513732

>>143507418
>>>/lgbt/ is your home now anon.

sorry for killing the thread lads

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>>143514242

Conquer all the Bantustans as Leostho

>>143515257
t. Alexi Grandi

>>143515487
t. Alexi Ghandi

do you like my mod lads?

>>143515442
alex hates me dude

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Any /gsg/ approved films? I like pic related, it really showed how gruelling the falklands war was.

>>143516203
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/gallery/big-screen-booze-15-movies-598102/1-the-worlds-end

>>143516261
mememememememememememememememe

>>143516210
Lad I am the only liquormemer here, everyone else is a fucking fraud.

>>143516402
Hi Alex!

t. K

>>143516402
>>143516330
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>>143515257
Alright I have been putting this off for the entire time you've been doing this, over a month now, atleast. I am really fucking annoyed by this meme. Victoria 2 is a great game, by far the greatest grand strategy of all time, in no other game can you manage an economy, your pops, your diplomacy, your taxes, your army and your sphere of influence at the same time. Victoria 2 takes every element of every game and makes it great. Your pathetic fucking mana/dynasty/OoB/insert single issue game simply can't compete. I've tried playing them, believe me. They are pathetic. You play them and you only have to manage one, maybe, two things. Hah, what is this mess? It's a botched job. A complete write off. And sure, if you like that sort of purile simplistic shit then more power too you, it's not my job to kick down your sandcastle. But why must I spend my time arguing this with you? Just because Victoria 2 is too complex for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. And when challenged you crawl back into your same abhorrent memery, because that's all this is, you don't have the slightest clue what you're saying or who you're messing with, because if you did you'd stop. Go back to playing your blob simulator, little man, because this general belongs to us. The true strategy gamers. Not your lame, disgusting casual shit. And you know the worst part? We can't even meme back. Hell, I'm sure there's some really overpowered trade good in EU4, but we can't say "hurr durr naval supplies" or whatever because the simple fact is nobody has played your favoured game since EU3, back before they dumbed it down for people like you. So well done, my friend, you made an intellectual victoria 2 fan MAD. You've achieved your greatest feat since you formed grossulmiums, mark this on your wall as a victory for your abysmal existence because I can tell you now, kiddo, this is your peak.

The only reason the Western culture has dominated for the last 200 years is that it's power has ascended greatly since the Industrial Revolution. Things are going to change in this century. Before the Industrial Revolution, Europe was basically a coping and adaptive culture. As you can see, the Greek civilization was not an ORIGINAL civilization like the Chinese civilization. The Greek civilization was heavily influenced by both Egyptian and Mesopotamian civilizations ( Greek myths and religion had their roots in various Mesopotamian beliefs).. The Greek architecture and medicine were adopted from Egypt and ancient Greeks extensively borrowed from Babylonians ( the ancestors of the present day Arabs) for it's astronomy and mathematics and even it's alphabet was based on the non- European semitic Phoenician alphabet. How about Christianity which was originated among non-European semitic people? As you can see, the Greeks were the biggest copycats in the ancient world. In this ancient time period, there were Confucius, Laozi, Mozi, Zhangzi, Mencius, Sun tsu, etc in China whose thoughts were at least as great as any Greek thinkers. Before you wrote this outdated Eurocentric trash, you should have read SCIENCE AND CIVILIZATION IN CHINA by Joseph Needham which was picked as one of the 100 best English language non-fictions of the 20th century by Random House. I'm going to list some of many Chinese inventions and ideas that backwards Europe copied from China before the Industrial Revolution. China invented compass, rudder, leeboard, centerboard, multi-mast, watertight compartments which Europe didn't use for their ships until the late 18th century. Without all these Chinese inventions, the European voyages of discovery wouldn't have been possible. Also China invented not only paper but also printing including the movable type about 400 years before Gutenberg who had been vey likely influenced by the movable type developments in China and Korea, developed one.

lads I am liquormemer after all

Without these Chinese inventions, the SPREAD of Renaissance would have been extremely difficult. China invented not only gunpowder but also gun, cannon, rocket including multi-stage ones, both land and sea mines, bomb, even hand grenade. All these Chinese military technologies were furiously copied by Europeans. Can you imagine the modern military without these Chinese inventions? Even the European Enlightenment was heavily influenced by many of Chinese thoughts. As a matter of fact, many Enlightenment thinkers such as Montaigne, Leibniz, Voltaire, Quesnay, etc. were enamored with the ancient Chinese idea of mandate of heaven that essentially declared that an UNFIT king should be overthrown. These European scholars thought the mandate of heaven idea was much more enlightening than the rigid and primitive European idea of the divine right of king to rule forever no matter what. This Chinese idea of mandate od heaven greatly influenced the French Revolution. Also these European thinkers had a high opinion of the Chinese bureaucratic system based on meritocracy through civil service examinations, while denouncing the privileges of the European hereditary aristocracy. Even the concept of laissez-faire was borne in the ancient China. Both Taoists and Confucian scholars believed in little or no state intervention in economic activities. From about 2nd century BC on, Chinese dynasties practiced free market economy while only intervening from time to time in iron and salt enterprises and also by and large they kept taxes low. The Chinese idea of laissez-faire greatly influenced the French economist Quesnay who in turn influenced Adam Smith. Also in the 18th century all things Chinese were a rage in Europe. Europeans copied Chinese architecture, interior decoration, tea-drinking, etc. As you can see it was the Europeans copying Chinese, not the other way around.

It's no accident China and India were the two biggest economies in the world from the 1st century to the end of the 18th century. Also China invented blast furnace, coking - coal, so called- Bessemer Steel Process, Siemens' Steel process, drilling techniques for oil and natural gas ( China drilled for natural gas and transferred it through pipelines for heating and lighting starting in the 4th century BC, on the other hand Europe didn't use natural gas until the late 19th century). Without all these Chinese inventions, the Industrial Revolution would have been impossible. These are just some of the ground- breaking Chinese inventions and ideas that backward Europe eagerly copied before the Industrial Revolution. Even science was born in the 11th century in the Islamic civilization with the birth of the EXPERIMENTAL SCIENTIFIC METHOD ( all ancient civilizations were pre-scientific) The backwards Europe again copied the experimental scientific method extensively thus bringing about the Scientific Revolution in Europe. The primitive Europeans copied not only science but also math, architecture, literature, etc from the Islamic civilization in the Middle Ages. As you can see Europe was basically a copying and adaptive culture before the Industrial Revolution. Even though Europe overtook China in science in the 17th century. China was still ahead of Europe in technology until the end of the 18th century because there was disconnect between nascent scientific theories and implementing them for technological developments. Before the Industrial Revolution, almost all the technological improvements were done by craftsmen or technicians not by scientists. Even Ancient China was far ahead of the Greco-Roman civilization in technology. According to Robert Temple, a well-respected scholar of the Oriental Studies, more than half of the inventions that laid foundations for the modern world before the Industrial Revolution came from China.

Since I have reached the conclussion that my ideal grand strategy game will not be released anytime soon, I started daydreaming about playing GS.
That's right, I no longer play strategy games, instead I imagine that I am playing them. And oh boy, this is really fun.

There are just so many options... In my mind, you pretty much play as any contemporary nation. You can play as N.Korea and try to become more liberal, reform financially (over the course of years) ultimately unifying Korea through diplomacy, or remain an absolutist dictatorship and fund extremists to steer shit up in the south, or declare war when the International Community is busy with more severe issues. There is this thing called World Tension (nothing to do with the hoi4 one). When there is not much world tension, the world is very eager to maintain peace, so unprovoked invasions or war crimes will be dealt with very aggressively, when there is a lot of world tension, the world starts getting used to the notion of wars, thus it is easier to do your thing without the UN fucking your shit up. If there is a lot of WT and the UN fails to reduce it several times, its' Authority will get reduced, resulting in eventual disbandment. The UN can always be restored, with the consent of all 10 Great Powers.

My favorite campaign was with South Africa. I picked a globalist focus, that pretty much allowed all Negroes to feel accepted in my society (pan-Africanism). After reforming agriculture, industry, infrastructure and healthcare, I started focusing on military imports and technology. I got to attack some "infamous" nations and soon I dominated the African Union, federalizing several friendly nations up to lower-central Africa. After teaching them how to be humans, I rapidly started feeling like a World Power. Having riled-up a lot of attention with my conquests and being the US rival (emerging GPs are not taken very kindly), they manipulating the global opinion against me and funding discord groups.

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im in heaven

>>143517720
>tfw the uk produced 40% of the world's steel in 1875 with only 32 million people
try and beat that chinks

I soon started preparing fortifications in Southern Africa and importing AA and nuclear arms from Russia and China. I even got to spread out my industry and make some shelters. The US soon made their move, 20 divisions deployed in the Ivory Coast, plus 6 allied ones. My intel detected 3 US CVs deployed across my western coast. Shit was getting serious. I barely managed to complete my Balistic missle project before the US declared war and blockaded me, significantly reducing my import capability. As would be expected between nuclear powers, the war declaration was followed by a mutual agreement to not use nuclear weapons and instead fight conventionally. I accepted, since the US nuclear arsenal was way more threatening than mine, but this treaty can be easily revoked if necessary.

Their continential invasion proved to be much stronger than expected, their 20+ divisions broke through my 40+ ones due the crippling effect of their air-force. Being out in the plains, our army group was hopeless against the overwhelming US airforce. While our Russian imported jets were exceptional, both the larger quantity and better air-tradition of the US meant that we were to tread carefully. The first battle was a complete disaster, with us losing over 50 thousand troops (30 thousand dead or wounded, 20 thousand captured) and 30 jets, while them losing barely 2,000 troops and 4 jets.

Despite the first ominous battle, the US airforce failed to achieve her goals of completely crippling and overwhelming our military capabilities, like in Iraq. Flights deep in our country were thwarted by our overwhelming investment to AA technology and small scale dogfights proved to be effective at intercepting US jets. Our army, now deployed in a hilly environment and dugged it, while supported by our nearby forts and AA weapons, was in a largely better position. Within the next 3 days, the US lost over 60 jets! while we lost 40.

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>>143515442
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These are grandiposts

>>143517982
trob

That isn't to say that we got away with it though. US troops still broke through the east part of the 2nd front, more or less forcing us to abandon a large portion of our land and retreating into our 1st line of heavy fortifications. On the meanwhile 3 major amphibious assaults, involving 3 US fleets with one carrier each and 120,000 men took place across our Western coast. Armed with special warheads, from our 10 ballistic strikes towards the CVs only one succeeded, but it was enough to force the ship to retreat for repairs. Only the northmost invasion succeded in making significant gains, with the middle one being repelled and the south one being cancelled due to the lack of air support.

Bah, this will take hours to fully type out. Let's say that as I was starting to get my shit fucked up, I used nuclear strikes against their armed forces and they retaliated. Soon I started also targeting their own cities, and even got a succesful strike on Washington DC. With me having my force completely crippled, half a million US soldiers deployed in the south-east of my country, having over 50% of my population dead and most of my land irradiated and with major attempts to overthrow the government, I got saved in the last minute; a Russia intervened on a somewhat exhausted USA, unleashing half their nuclear arsenal on them and invading Alaska.

The US withdrew from my land and was forced to cede Alaska to Russia and pay me 5 billion $ as reparations, while I lost a significant part of my African gains due to the unpopularity of the war. I am currently trying to rebuild my country and get rid of that fucking nuclear fallout. Don't use nuclear weapons lads, it's hell on earth.
Pic related: Red+Pink was my country before the war, Pink is the land I lost after the war, Blue were the US aligned countries, Yellow were non-aligned ones. X's are the fortifications and trenches, blue arrows are the major US invasions.

Daydreaming about playing GS sure is fun though..

>>143518027
grandipost

>>143518087
this is a grandipost

>>143518092
this is also another grandipost

>>143518131
trobobobo

Jose, is that you?

Why has this general gotten so weird?

>>143518776
there is nothing to discuss

>>143518776
lol kid ur so weird 0_o

>>143518848
>/gsg/ Grandi Shitposting General

Call Me by chipmunkson16speed

>>143518776
People hate EU4 because of mana.
People hate Stellaris because of 4X.
Nobody plays HoI3 because HoI4 is coming out.
Nobody plays CK2 any more because new DLC took out all the fun.
People are starting to hate V2 because of elitists, Rob and liquormeme.

We have nothing left to discuss, nothing to agree on and start to hate ourselves.

HPM>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ROBSHIT

>>143519179
chipmunkson16speed, it's time to stop shitposting.

>>143519179
it's time to lay off the meth

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>>143518776
nothing is wrong
>>143519269
You do realize the steam group is owned by Johan himself and this is all a ploy to get people to buy HOI4 right?

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>>143519570
pls buy

Okay go- guys let's get back on track and talk about the only Grand Strat that matters, HOI4.

How about we set up a HOI4 mp game, when do you want to play?

>>143519932
We'd have to learn how to play the game first

>>143519269
>People are starting to hate V2 because of elitists,
Had you not put elitests this aould have been a perfect summary.

Fucking with traits. Is it possible for agnatic traits to be inherited by the mother in a Matrilineal marriage?

>>143519979
Just draw arrows at the other countrys m8.
>>143520039
no

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>>143519932
no fuck off, im in heaven

ive never had a better thread

>>143519932
as soon as there's a working mp crack, cuz I ain't buyin that shit

also only if I can be Belgium

>>143520554
The Secret War

I don't see a thing because I don't use 4chanX

Quick reminder that Austria > Prussia

>>143520554
Why was my post deleted I didn't break any rules.

inb4 this post is deleted

has anyone ever seen an unprofitable liquor factory

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>Matrilineal marriage
>mediæval dynasty simulator
>allows wymyn to be the head of the household and pass on THEIR family name

>>143520880
i agree with this only because im a Pre-Vatican II Catholic

pls don't let my favorite general die

>>143520425
>no
Well shit. Will have to find a way around that then.

>>143521003
Nobody tell this man about Conclave.

>>143521158
DO tell this man about the mod that removes the offending features once he does find out about Conclave

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>>143521158

>>143521294
>mod removes ahistorical matrilineal marriage
>get daughter
>game over unless she commits incest

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>>143520880
Crumbling Multicultural Mismash of States <<< Strong German-Majority Nation

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reminder this is what Stellaris does to threads

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>>143521294
Is there a mod that removes shattered memetreats and restores battle WS to pre-cuckslave levels, but -keeps- the reduced assault time? I want to win wars even faster (only way to make playing on a toaster bearable)

>>143521450
>CK2
>not committing incest
>not waggling your willy ahhh CUM and jamming it in every woman in your court
L
A
D

>>143521012
What the fuck is Vatican II, me lad? Mecca?

>>143521294
That honestly sounds like a pointless mod. IIRC the AI doesn't touch that stuff.

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>>143521556

>>143521730
>doing that as a woman
>50 kids
>half of them niggers
>all with claims

>>143521840
>your heir becomes the KANG of afrika
>WE
>WUZ

>>143521556
>brown eyes
Why is literally every german nationalist not even german?

>>143518116
>>143517980
>>143517859
>daydreaming gsg campaigns
honestly sounds fun

>>143522015
>implying eye color factors in race

>>143522015
fuck off kike

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Why must the internatonal jew perpetuate the myth that the slow down of CK2 is due to the Greek castration, and not, the obvious answer, the sub-continent of bloat itself, India?

>>143522195
You don't want India in CRUSADER kangz?

What are you racist?!?!?!?

Everyone knows India was a vital part of the crusades.

>>143522527
nice meme

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pls suscribe
https://www.reddit.com/r/DDRJake/

twitch.tv[slash]red_pete

streaming victoria please watch desu :3

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>hey this game about the crusades is a really good idea! We need to expand on it!
>Hey, how about leeting peoppe play as muslims, seeing the crusades from the other sides?
>I love it, that's a brillaint idea!
>And how about expanding the Byzantines, because they featured heavily in the era, particularly the fourth crusade?
>Oho, we're on fire now! Any more ideas?
>How about the merchant republics?
>Wait, what did they have to so with the crusades?
>History and shit..
>Y-yeah.. okay.. what else?
>We should expand the game back to the vikings
>What the fuck? No. The playerbase won't accept us destroying a polished game by hyper extending it beyond it's initial timeline
>Trust me man..
>Wow, okay, that sold better than ever. Apparently the kids who play these games don't care about history at all, what DLC now?
>Play is safe with one focused on religion.
>Yeah, that one did okay, they're saying there wasn't enough content though.
>Listen man, I've got it.
>What?
>India.
>The fuck are you talking about?
>Motherfucking India, man, they'll love it.
>This is too fucking far, what does India have to do with the crusades?
>POO IN LOO CHOO CHOO
>Okay, that sold well but the reviews are extremely negative, we really need to improve ou-
>Charlemagne.
>No man, pls, they don't want this..
>Extend the game back to a period we have no knowledge of, outside of western Europe, it will sell for millions.
>They love it, we're filthy rich! Now what?
>Steppe expansion, the game currently runs too well, I'm able to pass a week in game in a minute, we need to fix that.
>You sure?
>Yeah, but make it really overpowered for the player, but somehow still shit enough that it doesn't do anything in SP.
>Right, it's become apparent they will buy literally any shit we make, now what?
>EU4 mechanics.

>>143523749
>okay what's next
>CHYNA
>wait no man I mean the rest of the DLC worked but China? Really?
>CHYNA
>okay
>HOLY SHIT WE MADE 6 MORE MONEY OFF ASIA DLC THEN WE DID OFF ALL PREVIOUS DLC COMBINED
>WHAT NEXT BRO
>anime DLC
>w-what
>anime
>b-but
>anime
>dude
>ANIME

>>143523548
great stream i love it

>>143523749
Don't forget the goddamn retarded 100 years war scenario.

Should've just stuck to the third fucking Crusade.

Will this general just be a stitch and bitch until the end of time?

Will there ever be a definitive, 600 page long treatise on why Vic 2's economy is absolute dog shit?

>>143524868
The steamgroup thinks 6 letters is enough.

>>143522195
>Greek castration
explain

>>143524978
Which steamgroup are we talking about? /gsg/ multiplayer, or Grand Strategy General?

>>143524980
Everybody was saying the game was slow as fuck after India was added and so paradox made a forum postclaiming the reason was not the massive continent of bloat, but it was in fact to do with the AI of greek rulers choosing whether to castrate their prisoners. They then claimed it's been fixed.

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ask-paradox-development-studio-anything.615174/page-98#post-19138242

But the game still runs like crap, and it only started running like crap post Rajas, so I suspect this was paradox in their usual bullshit way of making a funny to hide their appalling development skills.
And it worked on reddit, at least.

https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/3dfutg/til_that_before_patch_24_one_of_the_main_reasons/

Why hasn't HPM reduced factory construction time to 1 year?

>>143525101
>le good group theory
Fuck off, discord.

>>143525387
Gotcha. I don't play without India removed, but I own a toaster so it still runs pretty slowly anyway. Oh well.

>>143524080
If they actually managed to get the sheer batfuckery of Imperial China's politics right, you bet I'd buy it.

>>143525598
Do you own a NASA supercomputer or are you just absolutely retarded?

>>143525526
Both groups are full of autistic manchildren, but they talk about different things and have different motives.

>>143525598
Have you seen the abomination that muslims are in CK2?

If you think that is even close to accurate grab a rope, they'll literally just add another tier and make china feudal.

>>143525720
If, nigga.

>>143525720
Redpill me on China, lads. I unironically know nothing about it pre 9th century.

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>>143501958
nice job cucking germany to the east

>>143525968
19th*

is making steel a maintenence good for factories a good idea

>>143526119
Yes. It would increase the profitability, realistically. The only ones against it are people who hate HPM and Victoria.

>>143526283
This is obviously a horrible idea upon about 5 seconds of actual reflection.
In order to maintain factories, coal already appears 3 times in the chain.
You need the end products, cement and machine parts, to maintain factories.
You need coal for cement.
That's one time.
You need Coal and Steel for Machine Parts.
That's two.
You need Coal and Iron for Steel.
That's three.
And then when you add steel into the equation, that's the fourth time.

>>143526796
Then simply increase the tech bonus for coal. This would have the duel effect of making early industrialisation harder and of course making steel great again.

>>143526796
You say that like coal wasn't the most important resource in the Victorian era.

>>143527000
>making coal more plentiful makes industrialization harder
???

>>143527024
>implying it wasn't liquor

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well the world is absolutely bonkers. Africa is a clusterfuck beyond repair politically, austria hungary got cucked, a certain power in europe fell to facism and exterminated their irish, scottish, welsh, and jews. India is a supreme clusterfuck, and Ireland is a great power.

Gee fucking gee best mod ever, hpm is a saint

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groβ-Germanium bump

>>143529578
Bait: The Picture

>>143501832
reminder to kill yourself

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right lads, help me out here

i'm going to start a mega meme campaign, but first I'm checking that all my converters work, and lo and behold, the only official one is the shittest - constantly showing up country names as their tags. so i checked the localisation files and they seem fine (left of picture), so if i can get any help from you lads it would be appreciated

just feels like i'm missing something retarded

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>>143531551
>impling you wouldn't want to fuck europe up as deutschland

>>143503596
>being this retarded

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>>143532359

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>>143532815
there is all sorts of things wrong with the save

please all have memorized watch at the rhine by this august at the lastest

i will be gathering you all up for end time rope days and will need you all up to par on discipline

we will form a microstate in north west australia called gross germaniums and start generating casus bellis from there, thanks

>>143523749
>Extend the game back to a period we have no knowledge of, outside of western Europe, it will sell for millions.

This is a very good point. How exactly do they know what country owns what, what nations even exist, etc, in earlier start-dates? Hell I would assume it's impossible to get any maps or writings from steppe and eastern nations.

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I'm quite new to this game, until I can get primogeniture do I have to accept that every time I gain land I will eventually lose it until I have a higher ranked title?

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Awesome news!
League of Legends publisher buys large amount of Paradox stocks.
There is just no way they will pressure Paradox into producing lowest-common-denominator games with no political elements to appeal to the chinese market.

https://twitter.com/producerjohan/status/736081172283854848

>>143532178
thanks for all the help lads, eventually found out was because paradox forgot to pay the converter guy to make the localisation indented in case anyone else has this problem

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>>143534561
>paradox goes public

>>143534467
yes it sucks

are there good vicky 2 mods that extend through the 1900's and 2000's?

i dont enjoy HoI3 and EUIV's mods are shit for it

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>>143534650
>>paradox goes public
>mfw being a neet who invested all his money in Liquor(factories) and is too poor to buy Paradox stocks

Could be my silver lining, they destroy the franchises I love but atleast I get some money out of it....

>>143525387
>Remove india mod
>Game triples in speed
Nice goin there paradox. Ill tell ya what I really want in vicky 3 fuckin duel core support.

>>143534918
only ones i know of are NWO and ultimate
NWO is ok and ultimate is almost hilariously bad

>>143535176
alright thanks, ill look into NWO. havent played vicky in a while but didnt want to just go back to vanilla+expansions

pls leak hoi4
I am bored

>>143535338
pls buy hoi4
I am poor

>>143535508
be sure to buy marshal edition as well, goy!

>>143535573
>goy
guy

>>143535573
of course I just couldn't bear not having my exclusive forum avatar

Do you prefer humanist or religious ideas as the byzzies?

>>143536605
Which game

>>143536771

EU4

>>143536837
the uninstall ideas

>>143536605
espionage

>>143501643
Should I do it /gsg/?

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Is there a Vicky2 mod that lets me send all the Afro-Americans to Liberia?
So I can then play a comfy game of a majority African American Liberia.

>>143537891
>not wanting to play a pure white America

>>143537774
maybe

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>>143538019
I'll just save after the event so I can play both whenever I feel like it.
But America will never be pure white, because I can't get rid of the Mexicans and Indians.

okay time to try out NWO mod, who play?

>>143538746
Tajikistan

>>143538746
prussia

>>143538746
Banat

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I cannot believe that all the pissing and moaning by people about bloo bloo muh tech group muh poor china so unfair europe is so op ;__; has actually managed to worm into the minds of the devs and ruin EU4.

The game is called "Europa Universalis" for a reason you fucking retards. It it set in a time period where, shock horror, China and India and your favourite West African OPM didn't amount to shit. The first two (and arguably the third now I think of it) are both already dumb and ahistorically strong as it is, they don't need to be any stronger.

What the hell is with this fetish on the part of EU4 players for bitching about Europe's tech group? The original board game Paradox ripped off didn't even let you play as anything outside the European GPs (with the exception of the Turks) for fuck's sake.

Yes I'm nerdraging/mad.

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When where and who should I play as?

>>143539296
preaching to the choir

go post it on reddit for a proper reaction you mong.

>>143539296
Shouldn't your choice in country essentially be your difficulty? I mean, I get the notion they have of not wanting the same fucking map happen at the end game screen every time, but of course the Chinese wont stabalize and horde their way to Europe. If you want to do it, you can, but it should be a challenge just like it would be for their leaders in history.

>>143539296
Except in EU4, everybody got Westernized mid game because somehow Portugal got a free province in India and China shares the same border with Russian Siberia sooner or later.

>>143539719
Actually what happened im not sure if they fixed it but I doubt it is to westernize simply owning a province that a western power has a core on is enough. Even if they never owned it. This leads to a huge problem since Portugal gets a free core on goa around 1650ish. This leads to south india westernizing 99% of the time. Sometimes its a near unified india that gets it sometimes Asia is ruined to bad cause some OPM gets it.

>>143539340
oh nevermind, game keeps crashing on the load in

And every thread that discusses always ends up in "Nevermind fixed it" or "Works for me ;)"

oh well

>>143501686
had a shitty day but then I open /gsg/ and see that R&I sperg didn't get first post and I'm instantly much happier

you just made my day thanks friend

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With the Seljuk jihad of 1081 leaving Constantinople only a few hundred miles from Muslim invaders, the Christians of Europe now had to take this threat to their religion and lands more seriously.

In Spain, the fight was more successful. The previously squabbling kingdoms of Leon and Galicia had been subsumed by Castille, putting together the Asturian framework that had before repelled the Umayyads and prevented incursion into France, and for now, have slowly taken back rightfully Christian lands in Toledo. On the eastern side of the peninsula, the joint crowns of Navarra and Aragon took Zaragoza, in no small part to the bravery of the count of Navarra, Ramiro Jimena.

After the victories in Spain, the Pope called for a crusade for Andalusia and the major Catholics in Western Europe, namely the kings of Castille, France and England, along with mercernaries paid for by the wealthy merchant republics, managed to obtain the duchies of Beja and Badajoz after an initial skirmish ended heavily in the Catholics' favour.

The Pope decreed that the land be given to the Serene Doge of Venice for his services in the war - and in having no way to adequately defend these lands himself, gave it to his unlanded sons to rule over. Meanwhile, the count of Navarra, upset due to the nature of the defeats in Muslim territory in wars waged by his liege, declared himself the rightful king of Navarra, and with more men loyal to his cause, was proclaimed so, with the Aragonese crown given to the more worthy Duke of Barcelona.

As the known world turns into the new century, other kingdoms also seem to be in periods of strife. The Duke of Poitou is defending himself against the unfair revocation of his lands, and travelers and merchants speak of an incredibly large civil war in the Holy Land.

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well this should be a shit show

>>143540782
>China doesn't own Mongolia or Taiwan

wow what the shit China

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>>143540912
>Implying you can own Mongolia

>>143540782
show Europe please, I'm expecting one Gross Germanium.

>>143540912
Wow it's like real life

>>143541186
China owns Mongolia and Taiwan, filthy Anglo scum

>>143541239
t. Turkroach

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ahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>143541282
>Implying I'm a filthy kebab

How about gassing yourself?

>>143541342
t. kebab

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How do i get male kids?

Should I play the all in one mod 4.5 or Mixed Mod for Darkest Hour ?

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>>143540698
Whilst the Catholic part of Spain now has an advantage in strength over the Islamic side, it weakens itself by dividing.

The Queen of Castille's daughters split her kingdoms between themselves, and count of Alto Aragón refused to become a vassal under the new king of Navarra. However, once he was captured during the battle of Barcelona, he had no choice but to hand over his lands to his cousin.

>>143540698
yes my man, Make Navarra Great Again

Any mods I should get if I'm playing South Africa?

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The first step is complete.

Alles wird wieder gut sein.

>>143542563
Caleb's Political Titles.

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>>143542653
Germanium must be gross

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>>143541290
if you have a panzer corps i recommend putting Von Manstein as the leader, he is unstoppable.

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All I wanted to do was play a quiet and comfy game as Sweden. I even turned on historically lucky nations so that I could get a decent Yurop.
>Poland declines the event to form a PU over Lithuania
>Hungary blobs into Poland like they're playing HoI 3
>Austria forms a PU over Hungary, smashes Muscovy in the succesion war and then without any break to rebuild manpower or money goes on to beat down The French and Ottomans at the same time

>>143543050
>Playing as Germemes in Kaiserreich
Play as Ottoman Empire if you dare you fucking casual

>>143543223
I believe in this europe

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>>143543050

>>143543460
If I wanted to play as the Turks I'd play Alien vs Predator as a Xenomorph

>>143543223
it is your birth right to fix this shit

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why the fuck does victoria 2 have to be so laggy??????????????

it's my favorite paradox game but it's fucking unplayable f uck you johan

>>143544015
That's just your computer being trash desu

>>143544015
>have a shitty, old laptop
>vicky 2 runs just fine
It's you desu

>>143544131
>>143544264
bros i can play mount and blade warband with 500 battle size silky smooth 60 fps and also gta V in 60fps but noooooooo not fucking victoria 2 of course not

>>143544338
What's your CPU?

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>send ships at enemy ships
>lose lots of ships

rip ships

how do i ship

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>>143545276
>putting HQ in with other units


HQs provide a bonus to all neighbouring provinces. They're not supposed to be doing any fighting.

>>143545406
do they give a bonus even if they're fighting

>>143545489
yes they give HQ bonus when fighting

>>143512797
just

>>143540698
Is this just a visual mod? Does it increase performance?

>>143545805
Running a culture mod which is why the Muslim states aren't their dynastic names, running a mod that does increase performance by getting rid of sub-Saharan Africa, Iceland and India, and visual mod too.

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What should the Serene Republic of Kiev do next?

>>143546534
Become a nomadic state
Release some western vassals and conquer a bit eastwards
Continue to do this until you get to karakorum
Then go south to india, and just hang around there for the rest of the game

>>143547062
That...

That's not what I was thinking of, really.

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Although the Muslims banded together to avoid being fully wiped out, the new king in Navarra, Ramiro II, still attempted to achieve what his father, Munio, and his father before him, Ramiro, couldn't - an Iberia free of Muslim influence. Having rallied most of the other Western Catholics to his cause, he can feel his goal is finally within striking distance, even though he has only seen Muslim gains in his lifetime bar a small reprieve in the Navarran gain of Molina.

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>Start as OPM, conquer 24 provinces in 60 years
>Country still smaller than single swiss/north german provinces

Such is the Swabian life.

>>143547947
Jesus fuck what am i looking at

>>143548139
You're looking at
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>>143548139
What don't you get?

>>143548212
what mod is that though

>>143548254
>holy
>roman
>empire

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How does it feel not being an alpha?

>>143547947
Any special countries mittel Germany can form?

>>143548254
The
>Sacrilegous
>Germanic
>Confederation
Voltaire's Nightmare

>>143548456
What the fucking shit is that bowtie

>>143549015
t. Beta

>>143549084
jawohl

>>143547947
I'd love to play this if it wasn't for what they did to France desu

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The fall of the Castillans to Muslims was another straw on the camel's back. After gaining the support of the formerly liege-less Duke of Navarra, the King of Navarra declared a holy war to claim Castille's lands back, and the Pope backed this up with gold and supplies sent to Navarra, and by declaring another crusade for Andalusia - and he managed to persuade the Kaiser to bring forces.

How can I make a Paraguay playthrough fun in HPM past 1850 without going full democratic? Is there a way to get immigrants as a dictatorship? And what borders should I go for?

>>143549947
just conquer the rest of the americas so not being a democracy is not a problem

>>143549947
event 14680

>>143529578
>it's the second half of the 20th century and italy still didn't form


lmao

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>Play Spain

>BTFO of Carlists
>Decide to liberate Greece and call in my best buddy Russia
>Russia peaces out for fucking dobrudja instead of liberating Greece

I hate these games more than I can express desu

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>>143550670
>not letting carlists win to get the GOAT flag

Also whenever the AI does stupid shit with peace deals just use change owner to make it more sensical.