Monster Hunter General - /mhg/

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>>143345280
Brachy CB.

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>>143345280

>>143345280
Dalamadur LS. Working on the shah stage of it now

>>143345280
Teostra SnS... worked so much for this

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Is there a way to make these little fellas somewhat useful?

Here are the 2 felynes I use the most: I've never seen Pomme manage to paralyze a monster, not even once.

Miel is somewhat okay but I'm not sure about true health flute, he seemed to play the flute more when he had demon flute/armor flute/health flute.

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>>143346271
There's no way to make then useful in a damage sense, but your best bets are probably to have a pacifist horn blower like you already do + a thief cat for the chance at extra materials.

That being said there's always the odd chance you get a heroic felyne moment.

What are some good palicuck setups?

>>143345280
Black Fatalis Blade. I'm sick of these large elder dragon gems. I'm going to need I think 8 more of those pieces of shit. Might just put the game down and wait for X. Then I can complain about dinovaldo shinies instead.

>>143345280
Trying to craft Daora SnS in FU
But I ran out of cash

>thought the memeblade was overhyped after playing around with it
>reach 150 hunts and still don't think it's that strong
>learn how to gp most attacks and maximize time in axe mode
>learn when to do aed and saed
>suddenly KOs everywhere
>monsters get memed to death

Holy shit why did they allow such a weapon to exist

mhfg dual blades look really fun
unlike mainline dual blades which are toenail clippers
now spin to win toenail clippers

>>143348868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmDLPs-8RLo

Where are you guys getting this "Fatalis comes out of a portal" thing?

>>143351725
In 4U's White Fatalis intro, there's a solar eclipse followed by a whole bunch of vortex shit surrounding it with Whitey popping out

Dunno what the deal is there but whatever

>>143351725
>>143353769
Check his armour and weapon descriptions it's probably there.

>>143345280
BLACK LEATHER CHAPS

>>143351476
That game has some stiff and janky animations.

>>143343334
I got soap in my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25OPn3gzFz8

A new challenger to Black Rathian appears

>>143354434
Armor mentions mystery and its white brilliance. Some of the weapons have rather grim descriptions like sacrifice, others talk about driving the darkness away. Absolute Bowgun litertally just mentions it can rapid fire Pierce S Lv1 and every non-Dragon elemental shot.

Black Fatty armor on the other hand implies some pretty bad things happening to the wearer.

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Believe in your dreams, mhg.

BLACK

LEATHER

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Of course this is so ridiculous you have to make a webm of it.

>>143358912
yeah MH is ridiculous

>>143351476
has it at least been updated or something? that looks terrible

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>GL nerfed to shit in generations

fuck yes, now all they need to do is remove lances, sword & shield, bowguns and male characters then the game will be perfect

>>143362650
Doesn't matter
X is shit anyway

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>>143362650
But it's actually a buff if you're not a complete shitter. Are you one, anon?

>>143356807
>every single attack is a one shot
Is this the only true MH experience left?

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>>143362986
That's just deliberate gimping, not actual difficulty.

>>143362650
>GL made even worse
Is that even possible?

>>143362803
>already shit
>shell damage nerfed

the slight damage buff you get from managing your heat perfectly (ie you stop fucking dpsing which kills the purpose of the dmg buff) is not worth the shell damage nerf

>>143362650
>fuck yes, now all they need to do is remove lances, sword & shield, bowguns and male characters then the game will be perfect
You forgot CB, IG, SA and DB.

>>143362909
I mean honestly due to MH control/playstyle the only way end game can be remotely hard is if the monsters are super aggressive and 1 shot players or they have so much health it's a dps race

until they remove guns,status effects and mounting this is what we are stuck with


imo healing items should be removed as well, the game would be so much better if noobs didn't play

>>143363802
>if the monsters are super aggressive and 1 shot players or they have so much health it's a dps race
Why not both?

>>143363647
the block function is what needs to be removed, it literally exists for babbies

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>>143363802
Dark Souls purist detected.

>>143362803
how is it ever a buff to have a motion value nerf until you use a couple still underpowered shells, but not too many or you'll be locked into your nerf for a few minutes.

>>143363802
>if the monsters are super aggressive and 1 shot players
That's what they did in 4U and as a consequence the game only had 3 viable weapons

>>143363983
Bushido alone makes the weapon better than it was in 4U

>>143364042
every weapon is viable in mh4u because of how easy it is

>>143364042
Viable as in speedrunning or elitism?

>>143364225
Viable as in it won't make you want to slit your fucking wrists in 140s.

>>143364165
>shield bushido

you mean when you have to stop attacking and wait for a monster to hit you? that feels like a pretty hefty dps drop unless that counter hits harder than i thought

>>143364165
but EVERY weapon has styles and ones like SnS blow it out of the water

I mean SnS are going to be almost bowgun tier with coatings and styles

Welcome back from the /v/ thread, guys.

>>143364365
this, christ

>>143364419
i actually came straight from reddit

>>143364334
I'll gladly stop thrusting for a second in order to block an obvious attack and counterattack with a massive damage hit that also raises my heat gauge by 40% instantly.
Bushido is pretty much the only thing keeping GL sort of relevant in the endgame.
>>143364335
SnS is overhyped as fuck, stop talking about things you don't understand.
Yes GL is the second worst weapon in MHX, but it's still better than it was in 4U.

The weapon ranking in MHX goes Lance > DB > HBG > GS = SA > LS = Bow > LBG > SnS = IG = CB > Hammer > GL > HH but unlike 4U, HH is the only actually bad weapon, and even then only solo, and the gaps between the best weapons and the worst are both much smaller, and only readily apparent at top level play.

>>143364770
>raises my heat gauge by 40%
that sounds like it'll make it overheat if you actually bushido

does the 2ds have FPS issues?

>>143365203
Sure would be great if we had a pastebin with weapon guides that go over all the bread and butter combo orders, wouldn't it?

>>143345596
I made one of these for a guard sns set as a prank once.

>>143365203
hammers suck dick because every monster flails it's head around like a madman

>>143364948
You could always just not use the full burst all the time, especially since you won't always have an opening to do so, and the Bushido counter already has a 64 motion value on the reloading slash and 80 on the slam.

>>143365480
yeah get the fuck out you lil bitch

>>143364365
>>143364419
What did I miss?

>>143364042
How to spot a shitter: They can't even solo a 140 with less than a CB, and still think 140s are meant to be the solo endgame.

>>143365480
Yeah, don't be too afraid of posting or anything since we're generally alright about giving some advice, but reading the OP is generally a good idea. The pastebins are there for a reason and are very good at explaining things better than any of us would bother to in a single post.

Will I be able to convert my save from MHX to Generations, or am I going to have to start over?

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>>143365748
You'll have to start over.

Say about the DB hunter art where you do spins all over, are you invincible during the whole thing?

>>143365748
are you serious

>>143365659
An anon Rhy throwing a shitfit because a weapon war started over how broken gen 4 GS is

>>143365856
Couldn't you convert MHP2ndG saves to MHFU? And I think someone figured out how to convert 4G saves to 4U as well

>>143365884
But GS has been broken since MH2.
They've just been nerfing all other weapons except memeblade over the years.

>>143364770
>unlike 4U, HH is the only actually bad weapon
Not even HH was actually bad in 4U, sounds like X is worse.

GL was actually nerfed in MHX, MVs with the heat gauge being similar to the change to sharpness in MHX or the third-gen LS, where you need to do more just to make something as good as it used to be.

>>143366293
MHX GL's theoretical maximum damage output is still higher than 4U GL's.

>>143366397
Marginally if you assume it's in red gauge from the start.

If it's better relative to other weapons than in 4U it's because there's no G rank.

>>143364770
I already accepted that solo HH is only a gen 3 thing but god dammit did they have to make the hammer also shit?

Tama tama!
I wish MHX were appealing.

>>143366821
> solo HH is only a gen 3 thing
Someone didn't git gud during 2nd gen.
No, really. As clunky as songs were in it, the attack up ones were basically broken. Speed running videos with adrenaline and these songs for thousands of attack rating was common as hell.

>>143367004
I didn't use the horn back then. I really prefer the newer HH.
But still nice to know. So it is only gen 4 were they are reduced to being purely a MP weapon?

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>>143366397
yeah because of fucking styles that are broken, but because of GL shell nerfs and the fact every other weapon also has styles it's shit

I still don't get why GL would get a nerf in any shape way or form, it was already terrible. It's like something out of blizzard or riot balancing

>>143367269
Now that you can remove limiters and HBG can load wyvernfire in addition to another shot type simultaneously, as well as clusterbombs and crag (making it the most stylish weapon), GL should just be removed to be honest. It has no niche even aesthetically, it's weak and they keep nerfing it and it would be easy to explain ingame by just saying "it fell out of style because it's impractical to maintain" or something.

The easy way to rebalance HH to be good solo and not overpowered multiplayer would be to make songs much stronger when playing solo. Capcon will never do this because they're lame dorks though.

>>143367160
Eh, it depends how you see it.
Like I said, HH reached broken levels in 2nd gen but only in a speed running scenario, else they were the buff bitch.

Im really not much of a fan about how 4th gen just doesn't seem to know what to do with the old weapons, MH2 and Tri/P3rd improved the older weapons so much but most changes from 4U just feel like random gimmicks they came up with.

>>143366821
Hammer is great in certain matchups, it just has too many poor ones to be high tier. It's still far better off than in 4U.

In 4U over half the weapon roster was considered D tier, here there's only one D tier weapon and a few C tiers.

>>143368058
Bowguns don't have limiter removal anymore.

>>143368107
4u just made me pickup a sp weapon because I couldn't deal with the solo HH anymore.

Never had that problem in 3rd gen.

>>143367004
>>143367160
What specifically changed from gen 3 to 4 that made hh worse in solo? I've tried looking up motion values and asking here before, but I never found an answer

>>143368321
other weapons got buffed, it stayed the same

ko mechanic is pretty much unnecessary with mounting

it's damage is rather low for how slow its attacks are

Many monsters are also just really hard to hit in the head with the hammer

>>143368309
I know the feel. It's just not a rewarding experience. How could Capcom get it so wrong?

>>143368321
Part of it's simple as monsters move around a fuck ton in 4th gen. Cross at least restored some turn-a-pound windows to be more classic, but still left HH weak and crumbling.

>>143368116
In 4U the largest portion of the roster was C tier and S and A were both just so vastly overpowered compared to B and C that the difference was more noticeable. And the game was balanced for C. The only D tier weapons were solo HH, GL and SA. And that's talking solo speedruns. In 2-4 player play pretty much everything but LS, SA and GL has some kind of niche to fill (with LS still being strong enough to be solid despite not being a great online weapon inherently) is strong and the top four weapons and especially the top two are still completely broken, and in normal low- to mid-level solo play SA, GL and HH don't even lag behind other weapons that much because their good reach, HH's eclectic hitboxes for getting easy head strikes on pretty much any monster and GL's shield means they have more good matchups than most weapons (again except for GS and IG).

>not just using the big sword and smashing absolutely everything in your path

>>143368769
Its good to hear it is not just me.

I managed to solo as much as I could with the HH but the Master's Test was just a pain.
And then picking up a hammer for the very first time and beating the master's test at the first attempt made me realize just how bad the HH I was using all this time truly was.

>>143368240
Well fuck. Why would they even do that?

MH will just keep getting worse and there will never be a DD2, I can feel it.

>>143368058
>theres one old a balls hunter still with a gunlance
>he's retired now and only uses it to quickly cook you a steak before a hunt if you get famous enough
>mostly a non-official local sheriff type, but more "neighbourhood watch" than royal guard
>he retired because his leg was blown off my a noob fellow gunlancer, forcing him into retirement

>>143368107
>2nd gen hh only solo speed run of buff bitch

not really so much buff bitch, cause playing songs then sucked so much. there were only two songs worth playing. negate stamina to run to the monster. and then purple-purple-red-red to fight

also, all this talk of people complaining horn sucks solo 4th gen, is really overstated. true, it's not a powerhouse, but most of the disparity is a lack of familiarity with the weapon. I solo with hh and I love it. can't speak for x/gen tho cause I haven't played it past HR2

>>143369136
>Well fuck. Why would they even do that?
Because it was a stupid idea to begin with.
"Hey, here, we introduced this cool new mechanic for your HBG"
"Now take it off because if you do we'll give you a big damage boost"

Meanwhile for LBG there was only like one gun that ever used it
They ended up integrating the effects of limiter removal into hunter arts instead
Bowguns are still just as good as before and LBG is the best it has ever been, BUT they also kneecapped HBG's hame potential by reducing its crouch fire clip to 12 from 20
It's actually better in solo play than it was before though

When did you realize you were actually trash at this game? And how?

>>143369581
>They ended up integrating the effects of limiter removal into hunter arts instead
fuck off with this shit, hunter arts are literal fucking cancer
and limiter removal was a GOOD THING, being able to exchange pointless gimmicks for more raw power is a
GOOD
THING

>>143369581
>"Hey, here, we introduced this cool new mechanic for your HBG"
>"Now take it off because if you do we'll give you a big damage boost"
It's offering an option between a gun that is ideal for multiplayer and one that is ideal for solo.

>Meanwhile for LBG there was only like one gun that ever used it
Any gun with multiple statuses could make good use of it, and again removing the limiter is an advantage offline because it removes the HUGE attack commitment of rapidfire.

>They ended up integrating the effects of limiter removal into hunter arts instead
Including HBG's ability to load WF in addition to another shot type?

>>143369581
>>143369136
I always felt like the reason why we never seem to get new Ranged weapons anymore is because both Bowguns are so bloated with uses and Bow fulfils what else you could possibly do with MH ranged weaponry without making it a bowgun variant, so they don't bother with anything else.
>Why would anyone go Gunner and not pick the gun that can cut tails, create explosions, use all elements, do pierce damage, exhaust, hit multiple parts at once, buff allies etc etc...?

They could always bring back MBGs with its gimmick being Limiters, maybe

>>143370056
>It's offering an option between a gun that is ideal for multiplayer and one that is ideal for solo.
That's not a fucking choice

>>143370056
WF Shot was reworked into an internal ammo type with increased effectiveness.

>>143370056
Wait I am new to lbg. People remove the limiter on lbg? I thought the only reason they had good damage output was from rapid fire.

>>143368769
> Part of it's simple as monsters move around a fuck ton in 4th gen
I never got this meme. The overall monster behaviour is identical to 3rd gen.

>>143370236
It is though. It's basically doubling the bowguns by completely changing their functionality/gimmick while also not locking bowgunners out of offline viability for their weapon choice assuming they're anything less than perfect expert players who never ever make mistakes.

>>143370517
Limiter removal on LBG is much worse than on HBG, it honestly needs a damage boost as well. Ironically despite removing the gimmick that is vastly more usable online, LBG benefits much more from removing the limiter online because of the ability to load every status ammo at once and hotswap them to keep the monster locked down with para, then sleep, then reloading those while people set up bombs, then para again, then either sleep again or actual shot types (already loaded) while it has the 10% damage boost and so on.

Unless you're rapidfiring something like crag that has a very small maximum ammo capacity anyway, though, limiter removal can save your life offline and has a minimal impact on damage- Rapidfiring raw type shots (besides slicing) has diminishing returns with each shot in the volley, and you can generally fire elemental shot types almost as fast as rapidfiring anyway (not factoring in reload time) and don't actually need 3 or 4 times your max capacity to kill most monsters.

>>143371216
>while also not locking bowgunners out of offline viability for their weapon choice
They made getting into and out of crouch fire faster, and there's a hunter art that gives you bonus damage on your next X shots that can easily be maintained indefinitely. HBG is absolutely viable for offline unless you are fucking terrible.

Wasn't limiter removal just for g rank bowguns?

>>143371806
Nah, it was for mid-high-rank onward.

>>143371525
Sounds like that just takes the element of risk out of online HBG play. What about LBG?

>>143372093
LBG gets the ability to load every single shot that it can't rapid fire at once with a hunter art, that has a fairly short cool down as well. Basically adding the limiter removal effect to every LBG by default.

>>143372325
Oh, there's also Absolute Evasion: Battle Ready which is a long distance invulnerable dive which restores 10 points of Sharpness for melee weapons, but actually reloads your currently selected ammo's full clip for gunners.

>>143370727
It's nothing close. Nowhere is this more evident than hammer's straggling behind. The weapon didn't evolve at all and can barely catch heads. Deviljho would be a shining example of a monster I can jump back on 3U and adrenaline HH and pull off an infinite chain of head hits, but can't nearly take advantage of that in 4U/cross.

>>143372325
And the ~5 second commitment of rapidfiring something? Are you no longer glued to the spot for a century when using the ammo your bowgun is made for?

>>143372820
Rapid Fire is still mostly the same, but Absolute Evasion skills let you take more risks anyway. Bowgun now thrives on staring a monster dead in the face, firing off volleys and diving out of the way at the last possible moment. And with the addition of Full Reload, you're encouraged to use shots you can't rapid fire.

>>143345280
Enduring Surrender

>>143372093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV72wm1joGM
HBG is definitely pretty different now.

>>143374047
>camera recording of someone's screen
When will this meme die

>>143362650
Why would they remove male characters when their armour looks way better.

>>143374201
When mh comes out on better hardware

>all the female voices are either kawaii uguu hentai bullshit, or sound like men
Jesus christ capcom

>>143365847
that move doesn't have any invincibility

>>143374201
Q4 2017 probably.

>>143374201
when you dont have to have an old 3DS to send off to get recording equipment slapped on it for a chunky price

>>143377880
>implying any of those voices sound like men
you know how i can tell your balls haven't dropped yet?

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>>143369913

Not being able to do a single fucking thing against Azure Rathalos in the naked run. Run around and watch the gunners kill it 4 ultimate...

>>143346271

Late reply but whatever.

If you want your cats to be able to actually paralyze a monster, you need them both to have paralysis attack and abnormal status attack up and focus on large. Purrsistent and courageous are purrobably the best purrsonalities, and I THINK boomerang only is the best attack type (because you don't care about their damage, just their paralysis output, but maybe melee cats inflict more paralysis? I haven't experimented with it). Make sure to max out their defense too, so they can stay alive and keep inflicting paralysis.

I do this and my cats usually get at least one paralysis per hunt, sometimes two on paralysis weak monsters.

>>143372542
>50 hrs playtime: the post

Monster behavior isn't the problem, hammer doesn't have any more trouble 'keeping up' with the monster than any other weapon... if anything the uppercut makes it particularly good at chasing (see: a Zinogre that wants to charge up).

Elevation is the problem, desu. Where a charge blade can instantly dump an attack that does hundreds of KO in just a second, and it'll still be completely effective while the monster's flailing around on a slope since it has delayed impact, hammer has to keep up constant pressure and stay rooted to one spot to get a golfswing out. It doesn't depend on the monster, it depends on the map. Even the most skilled hammer is gonna get dicked by V Hollow extreme hill zone.

Hunter art that gives hammers taunt + double KO fucking when

>>143372542
youre making crap up. as someone who exclusively ran adrenaline HH in 3u and 4u, I can tell you if you're chain staggering jhos head, you're fighting high rank.

adrenaline HH was great then and it's still great now, but don't try to pretend it was a one man hamefest that isn't available anymore

>>143380838
is the elevation problem still present in x/gen?

>>143380838
But Anon, I've thrown away thousands of hours on this series. Hammer has more trouble keeping up than it did in 3U, specifically. Monsters were punching bags compared to now.

>>143380901
Are you really going to tell me it's not easier to catch Jho's head in 3U? He serves himself up, plus the head dimensions are a bit larger and spend more time hanging lower. This is even more noticeable with Brachydios.

to those who have mhx, is the weapon usage ratio still fucked? Is every room still CB, IG, GS or MAYBE a DB? Or is it a bit more balanced?

>>143384342
CB use is relegated to true fans and people who can't quit it. It almost gets the pity pick. IG isn't quite what it was, and takes more hits to get a ride. DB will always retain its place as the number one pick of streamers and memers.

>>143384019
my comment wasn't in regards to how easy or hard it is to land the hits, but how much damage you think youre doing.
the only thing that makes jhos head harder to hit in 4th gen is when he's doing his tippy-toe breath dance. and brachy also me seems easier than he was in 3 to hit the face, I hit his pounders by accident much less often. he almost feels shorter than he used to be (except r.brach)

>>143369913
Arena quests

>>143384790
Except that's not close to the only thing. Size matters, how much and how fast it moves around matters. 4th gen cranked the intensity, sped things up and tweaked stagger rates, openings and Windows. Also I don't know how your experience with Brachydios is possible, I have exactly the opposite one. Never accidentally struck the pounders until 4. Anyway, 3U was the game where HH and hammer held the record Brach times, and there was a reason for that my friend.

>>143384019
All right anon, what monster could hammer 'keep up with' previously that it can't now? Plenty of endgame fights end up on perfectly flat zones in the Everwood, so we don't even need to address elevation.

Challenge mode: no saying 3rd gen 'felt different'

>>143370093
I would like a greatbow weapon that is the ranged counterpart to the greatsword. I can't really see HBG as being that despite the slow movement. Just a big greatbow that hits hard with one shot and doesn't need any power coatings to be good. No coatings at all, just different arrows besides the default single shot one. Pierce, explosive, maybe a barbed one that does its own sort of damage over time effect.

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Cutest.

>>143385540
3rd gen didn't have 140 AI, and even its G Rank AI didn't match 4U's in terms of spasticity. Which monster? Any. Can't keep up is not how I'd word it, but having some trouble? Fewer openings? Fairly noticeable I thought.

3rd gen was different, monsters presented an over abundance of punching bag opportunities which have definitely been trimmed.

>>143386132
Ok but how many cute snow rabbits did she slaughter

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>>143386132

Hunters can't be cute! Only monsters!

>>143386460
>>143386667
I'm talking about the armor not the hunter.

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>>143386667

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>>143386667
Why not both?

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>>143387559

Because humans are vile and monsters are pure!

>>143387729
Monsters exist to be killed.

>>143387729
true. but hunters aren't human

How do I gitgud at GS'ing 140 Seregios? Randoms keep posting Steve/Jang quests, and I wreck the Jang with the GS, but I have no idea how to fight that bastard. Should I load out with E+1? Negate Bleeding? Just leave whenever I see a 136+ seregios posted? I already refuse to hunt with /mhg/ because some cunt always wants to fight 140 Zinogre all the time for shitty rewards, I refuse to lose to randoms too.

>>143388403
sounds like you need to stop playing desu

>>143388403
Just like every other monster, stand where he's going to be in 3 seconds and charge up. Go for the legs, of course.

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>>143388403
>I already refuse to hunt with /mhg/ because some cunt always wants to fight 140 Zinogre all the time for shitty rewards

You mind naming this hunter so I can slap him on the blacklist?

Nah I'm just joking, but srsly Steve is easy as shit

>>143389451
That's the thing though, I've only GS'd 2 monsters in 4U: Rajang and Teostra, and anytime something is paired with a Jang that's not standard like another Jang, Deviljho. or Kut Ku/Velo I am completely screwed against because my first response is to roll into a monster not run in circles away from it.

>>143388403
>>143389773
Sounds like Jonn. Can you blame a nigga for giving players a challenge and doing something besides Rajang?

>>143389780
I'm sure you could find a japanese Seregios GS solo with some copypasting of keywords if you need a model to copy. Otherwise, just play the game and you'll get the hang of it. It's not really an overnight thing for everyone.

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Looking for Guild Quests : https://goo gl/qDmmOR

>>143390287
That armor looks like nothing found in-game and for some reason I really want it.

>>143388403
Use IG instead.

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>>143390469
It's concept art for MH when it was in the planning phase where you would probably have different classes to choose from instead of weapons. Honestly don't know why this anon has a japanese page when there's english translations for the artbooks in the pastebin.

>>143385817
>if it hits teammates it launches them
it'll be just like my japanese dark souls

It would be nice to have a bow type that shoots one arrow that isn't shitty pierce, though. Not sure it would require a new weapon class. Could be "strong" type or something and be affected by artillery instead of silver bullet, since it'd be shooting basically fucking ballista bolts.

who is steve?

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>>143391465

>>143391465
you're mum

>>143391465
Gaijinhunter's real name.

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>>143386143
>the content designed to be post-G is harder than G

No fucking way, anon.

>>143392968
Most of the weapons simply aren't designed to handle monsters that fast.
There's a reason why perfect Hammer heroics play still loses to an average person with an IG in 140s.

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>It's a "Rathalos flies around for 10 minutes" episode

I just want a fucking plate. It gets exhausting fighting the same monster more than 10 times in a row.

>>143394695
Thanks for the update.

>>143374047
I actually really like the sprinting that they've added. I looks like EE wont be necessary for positioning anymore.

Is that the power of the "arts"?

>>143394695
>it's a "faggot didn't bring flash bombs to a rath hunt" episode

>>143394895
>flashbombing world tour rathalos
good luck

>>143394831
Anything that makes solo gunning more fun is gonna be a welcome change.

>>143394895
Darkflame Rathalos is immune to flash bombs, and flies around far more than any other Rathalos version.

>>143395103
git gud

>>143394831
pretty sure that's bushido dodge

So what happens if I wear Japan exclusive armor while playing with my friends who have a US/EU copy of the game? I'm using Pirate J in MHX right now, so what will my friends see when we play together? Nothing?

>>143398298
>while playing with my friends who have a US/EU copy of the game
Ha

>>143398793

Last I checked MH isn't region locked based upon your copy of the game.

>>143398931
it is, japan can't play with everyone else.

Or to put it another way, when was the last time you saw a Japanese player in a non-JP lobby?

>>143398931
>nintendo product is not region locked
lmao

>>143399215

>don't play with others
>get actually good armor sets

>play with others
>don't get access to good armor sets

I guess I'm sticking to playing with the Japs then. So far they've been polite and don't do stupid shit like je suis monte.

>>143399402

A lot of games are region-free, in terms of online. Even fucking Senran Kagura 2 on 3DS is region-free online.

Regarding MHX Styles, is Aerial ever good(As in TA use) ? Aerial Hammer sounds really good as far as covering Hammer's flaws goes and (In 4U) it has one of the strongest Aerial attack.
What about the other weapons? What's every weapon's best style (TA wise, again)
I know SA and SnS are Guild/Striker.

>>143400160

Aerial is shit in general. It completely gimps your roll with a slow, clunky hop that can't be used to evade, and the damage inflicted by endlessly ramming into the monster and poking it with mount attacks is minimal at best.

Guild is by far the best "all around", and Bushido is good if you whore out evasion or know how to effectively dodge.

>>143400512
Nothing I wasn't expecting, it's disappointing since all the Aerial Hammer changes sounded great, especially the easier Upswing.

>>143400160
Aerial has trouble competing in terms of TA from what I've seen. There's not a lot of aerial runs out there, but the ones I have seen aren't significantly behind other styles, but it doesnt look like they can beat be beat by aerial. In team TA's it's good for that lockdown stuff with mounts, traps, and status.

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I'm trying to solo Kushala Daora to get to HR 8. Should I fight him with Aksa Switch+ (raw) or Azure Rose (poison)? Is the latter worth giving up the raw damage?

>>143401049
i'd go with the poison. kusha is a fucking mess when the wind is knocking you around.

are you going solo for a reason?

>>143401049
Use Thunder or Dragon.

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>>143401165

I'm a masochist. Just kidding, I finished caravan not that long ago and I want to see how far I can get with just me and my cats. Feel like I learn how to fight the monsters better this way.

>>143401397

Don't have either fully upgraded right now. Aksa Switch has just been so convenient that I haven't needed to until this point.

>>143401976
Time to live the MH life and build them to hunt Kushala.

>>143401976
>>143402071
Poison should be enough.

>>143400512
Striker is better than Guild on most weapons, and Aerial is widely used in 2 man competitions

How do I deal with double monster quests (Caravan so I'm solo) with SnS? they seem to follow each other around and I can't get clear hits or single either out, this is a fucking mess kek.

Using a support Palico seems to be right though, the traps are good and help me deal with monsters quicker, but it's still a hard as hell to kill both of the monsters before the timer runs out.

>>143402906
Dung.

>>143402906
Dung bombs force one monster to flee. Flash bomb when both are looking at you if you need time. Use stuff like poison or slime if neither resist it. Multi monster quests give them less HP, so you can use those kinds of quests for farming multiple monsters at a time if you want. Good luck.

>>143343334

Hey guys

Im playing MHX and for some reason this Village 3 Star key wont show up

> 波乱の萌芽 | Sprout Troubles

>Main: Harvest 8 Deep Ferns

>— Unlocked by clearing the Yian Kut Ku quest

Ive cleared both Kut Ku missions for shits and giggles and Ive spoken to everyone. What am I doing wrong?

>>143402906
You can use dungbombs as others suggested or just git gudder, you can bait monsters into attacking each other and they do pretty hefty damage to each other, and if you position yourself right you can use one monster as a meatshield against both projectiles and charges.

>>143402254

Azure Rose it is then. Though, building thunder and dragon weapons will be my next project.

>>143403210
>What am I doing wrong?
Playing MHX

Why were the first two Monster Hunter games the only ones that weren't on a poop console?

Don't they think that a worldwide PS4 release of a challenging fun action RPG with honestly one of the best gameplay formulas ever would be a bit more popular than one only on the console and handheld owned by children, teenage girls, and autists?

I loved 1 and 2 when I was younger and have always wondered why the devs chose to castrate themselves by choosing to work exclusively with Shitendo

>>143404195
Exclusivity contract

>>143404195
Japanese target audience.
The console that has Pokemon.
MH is mostly played in public transportation (That's why 4U was the first Portable MH to feature online play)
Untold contracts, dev issues,etc.

>>143404195
normies don't care about monhun, and monhun fans (at least in nippon) want handhelds

>>143404195
Nips like it better on handheld, like you know, school kids playing with their friends.

>>143343334
>Monster Hunter Generations along with special edition N3DS XLs to release July 15.
I want one of those tbqhwyf.

>>143404195
Good riddance really. Mainline MH has now fallen to a 2 million range series and Capcom is projecting a really low profit margin this year.

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>>143390287
Three slots.

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I can't take the Tigrex seriously with that gigantic head in such a tiny body, I feel like I'm fighting the monster hunter equivalent of a special ED kid

And the retarded jaw animations when he charges, like someone hit its head a little too hard with the hammer

>>143362803
>MVs nerfed unless you're in a certain state.
>Which means changing your play style even when it wouldn't be the most DPS effective one.
>Nerf shells either way, because fuck you

>>143408547
I do agree the shell nerf was unnecessary, but the heat gauge is pretty much the only way I can think of to make you use both shells and thrusts, otherwise you'd only ever use one or the other.

>>143406713
I didn't think female armor could be this edgy

>>143408547
>>143408719
Does shell damage scale off anything?

>>143408719
Shells don't need to be useful. Leave them as the flashy noob trap.
GL has always just been a lance with a different moveset, and that's what it should always be. No need to try and force change for the sake of change.

>>143408719
WELL
>Keep 4u nerf to thrusting speed.
Nah, seriously, they fucking hate you.

Charging shots, slams, WF and combo extenders are pretty much the only reason to ever shell.

>>143408863
This. Honestly, the most efficient playstyle for each weapon should always be the one that eschews all gimmicks and focuses only on the weapon's strongest fundamental moves. Anything else is a disservice to the spirit of the series.

>>143392968
I said G Rank as well. In fact even 4's Low Rank implemented snappier movement. The timing and windows aren't what they used to be. Monsters aren't as retarded about standing around, taking a beating. Even the small monsters aren't completely as dumb.

>>143408989
None of those are ever worth it because shells consume sharpness that would be better spent on thrusts, and sharpness is the most valuable resource in MH.

Look at any GL speedrun in 3U, and you'll see that they never even bother loading any shells.

There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the Heat Gauge concept, the numbers are just completely fucked, and shells need a significant decrease in the amount of sharpness they consume.
Honestly, I blame Bushido GL for dragging the rest of the weapon down into the dirt because if GL still had all of its regular values from 4U, plus the heat gauge bonus, and then the absurd motion values from its Bushido moves, the weapon would have been fucking nuts.

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I came into an area and a Seltas queen was just walking around looking up at the sky before it noticed me. Are there any other monsters with unique animations like that when they don't see you? In battle, the queen pretty much never stretches to look up like that since she's focused on hunters all the time.

Also, the Seltas broke like three of her parts with that charge attack. I love these silly bastards, really glad they're both back for X.

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>amatsu pleuras

>>143409474
You mean just like every monster in every game since the first one?

>>143409474
Ok,

>>143409474
Pretty much all of them. Crabs will even drop a shinny if you leave them doing their business.

>>143409401
>There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the Heat Gauge concept
The thing is that
>Get considerably weak (in comparison to 4u GL) outside of certain heat point.
>Get only slightly stronger (again, in comparison to 4u) for playing sub optimally, including lots of recharging and potentially blowing up your team mates.

Pre speed nerf GL was dope though.

>>143408719
>I do agree the shell nerf was unnecessary
There's a shell nerf?
What happened?
More importantly, why?

>>143409629
Hadn't noticed it on any other monsters but Arzuros and didn't see it on the wiki, I guess I've been trying to kill them too fast. Just thought it was cute that the giant cannibalistic mecha bug was looking up at some butterflies.

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I need Seltas Queen's claws for a sns but it keeps bouncing even at white sharpness.
How can i break that part?

>>143410626
Use a hammer or Hunting Horn

Or ask the fags at /MHG/

>>143410626
Stylish bombing, Mind's eye, part breaker.

Pick your poison.
>>143410741
>Not the superior bow which stagger locks it with every attack

Current record times for Level 10 Ember Dino and Level 9 Gold Zinogre, the most popular monsters to speedrun

Dino:

GS: 5:45
LS: 6:07
SnS: 7:51
DB: 5:52
Hammer: 7:45
HH: 8:17
Lance: 4:44 (definitely an outlier time, next best is 5:46)
GL: 7:40
SA: 6:52
CB: 6:35
IG: 7:52
LBG: 8:13
HBG: 5:09
Bow: 6:59
Prowler: 7:13

>>143410907
Zino:

GS: 7:38
LS: 7:51
SnS: 8:16
DB: 6:33
Hammer: 7:48
HH: 9:59
Lance: 5:25
GL: 9:47
SA: 6:37
CB: 8:43
IG: 7:31
LBG: 14:45
HBG: N/A
Prowler: 8:36

The poor performance of gunner weapons on this fight can be explained simply by players not having enough ammo to get through it. GL suffers because of its overreliance on Bushido, which is a very poor style to use against any version of Zinogre.

>>143410907
>All these weapons worse than the fucking around mode.
>All of them, the expected ones.

>>143411158
Prowlers
>have to give up all utility abilities
>cannot use healing items
>have to give up on their multiple lives mechanic
>rely on a slow-moving projectile attack that needs to be charged while standing still
>have to be able to consistently hit weak points at the correct angles
to achieve these kinds of times. You think that shouldn't be rewarded with damage on the level of "real" weapons?

>>143410907
>>143411141
Wait, so Lance is the new best weapon?

>>143411623
Played optimally, yes. In the hands of an average (bad) player, haha fuck no.

>>143410626
Keep hitting

>>143411141
I forgot the time for Bow. 15:21.

I question the viability of Bow for endgame Deviant soloing. Even in the hands of skilled players, you simply do not have enough coatings to make it through the hunt.

>>143410907
What level do they run?

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>>143412232

>>143411141
>>143410907
what styles are each of these times using? specifically lance but having each would be great.

>>143410741 >>143410905 >>143411929
Alright i take note, thanks for the tips.

>>143412402
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>>143412661
You're welcome.

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>>143413006

I want to give Miss Cat a big, wet, adult kiss!

I want a Brachy futa to slime up my colon!

>>143412440
Dino:

GS: Guild (2x AbsEv)
LS: Bushido (Counter 3)
SnS: Striker (2x AbsEv, Round Force 3)
DB: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
Hammer: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
HH: Guild (2x AbsEv)
Lance: Striker (Guard Rage 2, Screw Thrust 3, AbsEv BR)
GL: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
SA: Striker (Demon Blade 3, Energy Charge 3, AbsEv BR)
CB: Striker (2x AbsEv, Frenzy)
IG: Bushido (Extract Hunter 3)
LBG: Bushido (Full Reload 3)
HBG: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
Bow: Bushido (Accel Rain 3)

>>143413832
Zinogre:

GS: Striker (2x AbsEv, Inner Beast "Lion" 3)
LS: Striker (Counter 3, Spirit Slash 3, AbsEv BR)
SnS: Striker (AbsEv BR, Round Force 3, Shoryugeki 3)
DB: Striker (AbsEv BR, Starving Wolf 3, Blood Wind Top 2)
Hammer: Guild (AbsEv BR, Spinning Meteor 2)
HH: Guild (2x AbsEv)
Lance: Striker (2x AbsEv, Guard Rage 3)
GL: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
SA: Striker (Demon Blade 3, Energy Charge 3, AbsEv BR)
CB: Striker (2x AbsEv, Frenzy)
IG: Guild (Insect Swarm 3, AbsEv BR)
LBG: Bushido (AbsEv BR)
Bow: Bushido (Accel Rain 3)

>>143413832
Guard Rage 2..?

>>143414247
>>143413832
oh wow i didnt expect lance to be using striker, i thought it would be using bushido at least for the glavenus, were they using evade and just abusing the strikers new mv on the lance charge(assuming there are videos)?

Looking at the MHX dex, what are all these icons in the Quest tab?

>>143414565
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9X-8K7s390
This isn't that exact run, but it's the same guy. Arguably one of the best Lance users in the world.

>>143414772
Gathering gathering gathering gathering gathering :v)

>>143409892

That isn't something fundamentally wrong with it though, that's a problem with the math values.

>>143414891
fuck this anime bullshit, this isn't even monster hunter anymore

>>143415097
I get the 4 villages icons, but the others?

>>143415239
it forces you to play in a suboptimal way, how is that not wrong?
you shouldn't be fucking forced to use shells.

>>143415573

If you don't want to use shells, use a lance. The Gunlance SHOULD force you to use shells just like the Switch Axe should force you to use the Axe mode as much as the sword mode and the Charge Blade should force you to use both sword and axe. Otherwise they might as well be different weapons.

I'll never understand why people use gunlances and whine about using the weapon's core mechanic. The idea of the heat gauge is fine, they just need to unfuck the numbers.

>>143415573

its only suboptimal because the numbers need to be tweaked. that doesn't make the mechanic fundamentally broken.

>>143414891
Here's a real best lance user. Doesn't even need the HUD.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8kjKEruRiA

>>143416267
>The Gunlance SHOULD force you to use shells just like the Switch Axe should force you to use the Axe mode as much as the sword mode and the Charge Blade should force you to use both sword and axe.
Why?

>>143417276
Because then otherwise what's the point? Why even have those separate weapon classes if they play just like the others?

>>143417276
Not him but I agree. If Dual blade had the option to attack with right sword and block with left sword it would be fucking pointless.

Diversify weapons or remove them entirely.

>>143417453
God forbid that you leave it to players to discover the optimal way to play. There's nothing wrong with NOT using some features of a weapon being the optimal choice.

>>143417820
Are you saying it's not depressing they made the axe in switch axe never worth using in Cross? That was a shit change, axe mode being buffed would have been great.

>>143418307
Ya know, I use Aerial Style and keep everything except the burst on the ground, and as a result I play it like normal except jumpier and mountspam is top tier. Fuck speedrunners, Aerial SA is best of all worlds. Doesn't even really need EE at all.

What makes lance so good in X?

>>143422592
Striker joust thrust

>>143345280

LAGOMBI BOXING GLOVES

Theyre fucking rad

JE SUIS MONTE

>Carts to congalala death animation

Eheheheheh the memes are real

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>>143414891
>all those backhops
>without evasion+
I ain't even mad, Lance earned it's spot. That is a far-cry from braindead Frogstick and Sheathe Sword

Just noticed Khezu fights don't have any kind of boss music

and that you can't cut off the tail

>>143427221
When have you started hunting?

Let us not forget the sacrifices of the brave Bahahabaabahrahabahs who gave their lives to protect us from a fireball.

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>>143407643
Boo!

>palicos smack you to break you out of roar flinch
>except they flinch too and just hit you after you start moving again
Who programmed this shit

>>143341092

Ice Rajang when?

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>>143428327

Any tips for solo Gold and Silver pair? My end game Kushala armor is no good against fire and explosion, might consider farming a new one.

>>143428641
High grade earplugs and don't get blown up
What weapon?

>>143428797
http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u/weapon/greatsword/cataclysm-blade+

>those fucking quicksands in the desert map

>>143428982
>those fucking quicksand caves prevalent in Jho/blos GQs

>>143428641
try changing to a thunder weapon

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>>143430306

I hate Tigrex! I hope he's never in another game!

What would cause me to do a hunt with the same weapon 9 minutes slower?

>>143414891
I'm so fucking turned on right now.

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>>143430656

>>143430667
Doing a much shittier job

Best way to farm charms at G2?

Stop liking that retarded monster Tigrex

>>143431269
Powersaves.

Fuck everything about charms

>>143431269
do the rath one with the back break sub on g2 quest pool, eat for explorer to get to the hidden area.
>>143431487
shut up faggot its easy as shit to farm good charms

>>143431701
This. The meme zinogre one is SHIT.

>>143431269
>Equip IG
>Eat for Felyne Explorer (Fish + Drink)
>Start Sovereign of the Sky
>Mine all gold points in Area 3, 5, 6 if you want Enduring Charms; the spots will be changed around however
>Depending on how fast/slow you are, Rathalos will be in 3 or 5
>Break Rathalos' back with two mounts
>End via subquest

You can get some Shining and Timeworn charms via gray/silver points. It's also a good way of getting Hard and Strong armor spheres. For best effect, use a clownsuit with Speed Gather, Charmer, and Gathering skills, easily done via Torso Up pieces.

Is it worth to have a bunch of different baguettes?
I'm making an Universus and plan on getting the Dalamadur one, the Daora baguette and Anubis.

>>143431701
>rng
>easy
You could literally farm charms for 2 hours a day for the rest of your life and never get a certain charm you need

>>143432036
Check TAs, craft the ones that make an appearance.

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>>143415252
You're right, how in the actual fuck are you supposed to dodge that massive AoE tailspin without pretending you're playing a shitty Dark Souls?

>>143432973
It's an AoE but it still physically hits you. Get under him during the grind animation and it will miss

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What's the verdict: ugly, or fashionable?

It's definitely quite functional

>>143432973
it can be iframed with base iframes, get good

there's a very small blind spot but you have to give up the opening to utilize it, and that attack is one of his best openings

he is literally presenting his anus to you during the windup

>>143433971
It's okay

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mhx hr unlocked
01-4861-2883-2827
pw rage

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>>143433971
Could be worse / 10

>>143433971
If you're gonna clown with Garuga, might as well go full uggo and pump as many skills as you can.

What's the best way to farm Dalamadur solo?

Anyone else got too many pages of charms he can't throw away because he might need them some day?

>>143435443

Same way you hunt it with other people, just doing everything yourself.

>>143435443
fatalis CB and a set designed for maximum dragon

spam SAEDs

>>143435443
Shiggy lance, Charge

>>143435443
http://guidescroll.com/2015/04/mh4u-shah-dalamadur-farming-with-hbg-guide/

Dunno how effective this is, but I came across it

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MH Stories is getting some Amiibos.

>>143436528
They are okay with this but not trophies?

>>143436528
The cat looks even worse here.

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>it takes me longer to kill Bee Giggy than it does Amatsu

>>143436528

>amiibos

Are you sure? All the amiibo's I've seen outside of the Yarn Yoshi ones have a pretty distinct base, and the two Los's there look like their bases are far too big.

>>143436683
It's right on the label.

>>143436683
Looks like it's not final

>>143436675
Bee Giggy?

>>143436737
i think he means baleful gigginox

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXNeUQ6dTiw

>>143436737

Baleful Gigginox.

Amatsu takes me less than 20 minutes, BG takes me more.

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Monster Hunter Stories RIDE ON

After using SnS, lance, GS, and LS I wanna pick up CB because I've given into my inner anime and it looks rad as shit. Any tips I should really know?

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>>143436962
looks good i hope its going to be cannon and not all fucked up, also hope we get it and dont have to rely on incompetent translators like FE fans

>>143437057
Qurupeco trying real hard to be relevant again, I see.

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>>143437138
I doubt Team HGG or Maverick One will give a fuck. Especially since October is very close to the release of the mainline title, which probably would come out in early December.

>>143437057
Is this game no subspecies? I thought I recall seeing Black Diablos.

>>143437046
You can use the rocks blocking areas in steak your ground if you have an ESP set (notably star knight or regios x since they're common) to charge your phials and check out your different moves in a controlled environment. Bring some small barrel bombs to check out your combos from blocks.

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>>143437260
RIDE ON is the anime. The Black Diablos you saw was from Spirits.

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Looks like monsters are CG in the anime.

>>143437046
Put Start on Kick for an easy guardpoint button

Practice them on Diablos and Molten Tigrex after you perform the shield boost

>>143436683
They aren't final so they don't have the NFC bases yet, which probably aren't designed yet either since they will need special, appropriately themed ones most like (Especially because the rider figures are large)

>>143437358
Can't be. Unless that game has something other than googly eyed monsters I want to murder.

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>>143437662
Yes it is. I remember because I made a webm of it.

>>143437708
That is clearly Stories. Thanks for confirming famalam.