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Praise Be Unto Him Edition

>News
www.oldgods.com

>Deck lists, news etc:
http://liquidhearth.com/
http://hearthstoneplayers.com/
http://hearthhead.com/
http://hearthpwn.com/
http://www.hearthstonetopdeck.com/

>Arena Help
http://heartharena.com/

>Open Tournaments:
https://strivewire.com/
http://play.eslgaming.com/hearthstone/
http://zotac-cup.com

>Deck Tracker:
https://hsdecktracker.net/

>/hsg/ Tournaments
Discord: discord.gg/0rEzZFGEKs226nI7
Most recent Bracket: http://challonge.com/ShitpostsNewAnons
Next Tournament: May 20th, NA

>/vg/ League Poll
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1waNc94C3FCm9cZ10C0MQBXAOEbWphGtC1NirLKrRCIU/viewform
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first for yogg saron > cthun
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>>140891395
>9 mana do nothing
>get a bunch of synergyless enemy spells and the coin
epic. i could totally see this working in my meme yogg deck
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>>140891525

xth for you can play BGH on curve now. :^)
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4th for the game takes zero skill
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>go get a drink after i end my turn
>opponent played nozdormu, then mind controlled my rag for lethal
dick move
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5th for needing a Tauren tribal deck.
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>>140891884
so when're you going to blizzcon?
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>>140891921
>opponent is somehow supposed to know you're a little bitch
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>>140891921
>walking away between turns
You deserve it
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TRYING FOR THE THIRD FUCKING TIME

Rate my Nzoth deck

I just want to know what rank I can plateau it at
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Zoo shaman shitters kys pls
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>>140891980
>blizzcon = skill
Toppest kek lad
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is he useful or is he 400 dust
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>>140892126
>Zoo Shaman

I'd say I want to try it now but that would be a lie, not enough card draw.
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Post Healadin dicks
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Pls rate familia.
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>>140892227
>priest
im sorry
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>tfw you know it's very likely you missed three damage somewhere
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>>140892393
>dies to backstab prep backstab
It's shit
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how the fuck is warlock's fat johnny bravo balanced
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>>140892393
>Gaining 4 mana on turn 8 when 10 is max
no thanks make it this turn only and we'll talk
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>>140892227
Tried it in N'Zoth priest
It was too slow
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>>140892629
>he thinks you can't go over 10 mana
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why are there two threads
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Where my Patron warrior nagas at?
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>>140892829
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>>140892829
If you use innervate with 10 mana you don't gain any, you have to use at least 2 first and then innervate. That was easily the best thing about druid combo, watching shitters innervate-FoN-Savage roar, pause for a minute, and then concede
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>>140892018
>MFW I'm missing Xaril, Hucksters
>And I have 3 win rogue quest
Should I just dust Naxx/GVG and craft them?
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>Master of Evolution into Leeroy

Out fucking skilled lmfao
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>>140892918
Reporting for duty
I played it at the /hsg/ meme tournament last weekend, pretty fun to play actually
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If I got rerolled for a 50 gold quest do I chance it for the 60 gold? I can only reroll once per day right?
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Rate this bad boy
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>>140893184
a pizza delivery guy is better at making cards for a children's card game than you are / 10
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>>140893091
is it really patron warrior if you don't have any patrons in it
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>>140893091
Brother get'cha homeboy Grommash in there.
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>>140893445
for some reason I've read Naga... my bad
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Hunters are the new paladins

Literally retard proof play on curve bullshit
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>>140893531
>he thought the game would change
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>>140893531
>hunters
>relevent at all in this meta
lol no
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>>140893531
I love those stock photo file names
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>>140893656
>What is le 8 mana spell of balance
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>they told me C'thun Druid was good
>it's actually just a rank 20 deck
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>>140892018

dont play shit like loot hoarder in it. You dont want loot hoarder to be brought back by Nzoth. You want better death rattles
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>>140893704
>spending 8 mana for a 5/4 and a fireball
lol
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I WILL FUCK ALL OF YOU
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>tfw I'm having fun with Evolve Shaman

Face Shaman is too boring, I was a mech mage climber, it's the same shit, but with a different smell.
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>tfw crushing shitter ranks with c'thun druid on recent f2p alt
>not even level 10 for swipes yet
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>>140893746
It got me to legend last season. I don't think it's that good though. It will probably fizzle out of the meta soon.
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>>140892918
here
this deck is sick. feels good to shit on every single class
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>>140892018

I'd go second SI over Harvest Golem. You have enough deathrattles already for N'Zoth, and I feel like the consistency from running 2 in the deck is needed.

Are Bladed Cultists working for you? I never found good use for them in my Rogue decks. Rather run something else like Thalnos or Farseer.
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>>140893531
That would be C'Thun decks. Are you playing wild? Hunters are only good in wild.

Stop playing wild.
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>mfw i spend 4 mana to get a 7/7 and 4/0 with charge
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>play rogue
>queue into strictly aggro shaman
>play cthun priest
>queue strictly into druids, cthun warriors, and dragon priests
Like clockwork
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>>140892227
He's fun and usually worth it even if you have a couple vanilla minions on the board.
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R8 this b8 at least an 8 m8.
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what did they mean by this ?
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>>140892227

From my experience, he's loads of fun, but definitely a win more card. Too slow to really be useful unless you're already way ahead.
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>>140894430
what am I looking at here, every time I open the image 3 of the cards are different
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So, we are 1 week into the expansion, what are your thoughts so far? For me WotG is an utter fail, the only thing that made it a little manageable was the introduction of Standard.
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>lose to inner fire priest because lolnotauntsdrawn

Well great, now I want to kill myself.
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>Been rank 12 for the past two hours
Sure is fun playing rogue but god damn
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>>140894598

best expansion to be released so far. Lot of fun
I dont care about meta and ladder climbing I just want to have fun
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>>140894064
>Are Bladed Cultists working for you?

honestly not really, they are really more of a miracle rogue card

I need to find something to replace them with but I fear for my curve becoming costlier and costlier
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>>140894598
Shaman being playable is good.

Shaman being utterly broken is bad.

Druid is still Blizzard's favorite class, and it's painfully obvious (looking at you, Dark Arakkoa and Amber-Weaver.)
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why didn't blizzard nerf mage
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>>140894834
What's there to nerf
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>>140894834
nerf what?
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>when servant of yogg actually helps

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>>140894852
ice block alex freeze direct damage

>>140894876
mage
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>>140894949
this is what should have been nerfed 2 years ago
>slowly take control
>NOPE LOL
Feel cheated
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>>140894882
>not fireballing the bear
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Are C'thun decks viable as tier 1? Is Emperor 7 worth crafting? I don't want to throw the dust away if C'thun decks don't make the cut going forward.
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>>140895059
cthun vs everything but aggro is a skill matchup. you will auto lose against every agro deck though.
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>>140895147

>tfw I have the new 8 armor 3 mana druid card slotted in my deck
>tfw I go 50/50 with aggro now

that between the arakkoa, worshipper, wrath, and emperors I am okay
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>>140894834
they did
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>>140895147
Chtun warrior male Gold Job Vs Zoo or aggro
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>>140894882

how do I get the Khadgar hero
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>>140895035
nvm Reno, then N'Zoth, and then Twins fixed the problem
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>>140895320
you can't anymore
at least for now
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>>140895320
you cant, it was limited edition
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>tfw playing against cancer decks like Cthun druid and throwing out Sylvanas on turn 9 while he has an empty board and 6 hp against my Nzoth rogue
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>>140895147
Reno C'thun is fine vs aggro
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>>140895320

You had to buy him through the iTunes app and the deadline has already passed so Khadgar never
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>Turn 1 - Trogg
>Turn 2 - Totem Golem
>Turn 3 - Tuskarr + Totem Golem
>Turn 4 - Dr.4, 5/5 with taunt or Master of bullshit
>Turn 5 and beyond - JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
Fuck shamans, fuck shamans in the ass
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What is most cancerous deck atm?

Zoo, Cthun, or Face Shaman?
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>>140895694
>Dr.4
>a fucking vanilla, class card 7/7 with a malus
no
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>So pissed about the Druid nerfs I dusted practically all of his cards, including Cenarius, out of spite
>They only nerfed him to keep him from being game breaking instead of just broken in current meta

Just kill me familia I'm a fucking retard.
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>>140895694
it wouldnt be so bad but they are just everywhere. rank 20-legend, including casual. youd think with that stupid fucking deck theyd climb but nope, still here at low ranks with me
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>>140895342
>Reno heals for 29
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>>140895748
C'thun cant possibly be cancerous since its basically the no1 expansion gimmick. I mean, of course there will be C'thun decks around at least until the next adventure
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>>140895748
C'thun druid.
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>>140894598
By far the best expansion. RNG not really being the deciding factor for a lot of games, Forbidden spells are really well designed, almost every class has a strong deck, no face decks, no meta defining legendaries aside from the one everyone has, every play feels like it has impact now instead of feeling bad for removing the shredder that pops up every game, and all archetypes are clearly present in the meta.
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>>140894598
all the fun ruining decks are gone but freeze mage so its okay but could be better
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>>140895975
Doesn't C'thun Druid auto-lose to C'thun Warrior?
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>Patron is cancer!
>No one cares anymore
>Reno is cancer!
>No one cares anymore
>C'thun is cancer

Just bide your time dudes the next cancer will be here in probably September and we can complain about the new cancer making it impossible to climb the ladder effectively right now.
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>>140895748
those are the only decks
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>>140895975
>a deck that wins by playing vanilla minions until turn 10
>cancerous by any means
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HOLY SHIT BEAST DRUID BEST DRUID

>fandral into nourish
>my dick is diamonds

HERO POWER NOW YOU FUCKING FAGGOT ZOO
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>>140896115
Sorry, too busy wishing excruciating death upon whoever thought the Klaxxi Amber-Weaver was a good idea in a game where Brann Bronzebeard exists.
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>>140895748
I don't know man, Zoo is like synonymous with cancer, like it's been the go to meta cancer for years. It almost doesn't feel right calling it a cancer when by now it's pretty much just a part of the game. I think when you describe cancer you want that contrast, the freshest and most horrid of cancer. I really don't even see that many c'thun decks in the ladder anyways, but what you will see, is that like 60% of the deck composition is some form of aggro shaman cancer. If i had to take a pick from my assortment of hot piping ass pain it would be aggro shaman.
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Are rogue and priest the only classes without bullshit tier stuff like evolution, divine shield spam, 7/7 4 drops, 4-10 4 drops, infinite armor cthuns, etc

You know the game is broken when even mages take more skill to play compared to everyone except rogue and priest
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>>140896262
>not playing "sap/destroy this shit" rogue
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I almost got my shit handed to me a few minutes ago by a Murloc Shaman. At first I was like oh shit nigger what are you doing and then I was at 12 without hitting his face. I won but goddamn it was cool to be thrown off guard like that.
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>yfw 5 darkshire councilmen on ur arena deck
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>>140895759
You don't know what vanilla means.

A vanilla 4 mana minion would be 4/5

You're paying the 2 overload for +3/+2, that card is insane and you and all the other shaman apologists can fuck off.

"Countered by hard removal" is not a valid justification.
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>>140896368
I appreciate that your mana curve is a fiery hand giving the finger.
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>>140895748
Anything C'Thun, Shamans in general and Patron warrior. New zoo is not as good as people are making it out to be
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>>140896368
╭∩╮.
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>>140896368
Now that's what I call cancer
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>cthun warrior and druid are impossible to beat guys
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>>140896368
enjoy drawing them all starting hand and losing to a balanced curve
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why didn't they bump frost nova up to 5 mana
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>>140896625
>that sample size
really nigga?
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>>140896625
The only appreciable result from that sample size is that you don't know how to play against Zoo.
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>>140896701
I only had enough time to play 34 games since the reset
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>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent floods the board in zoo
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent drops a gorillion taunts and 4-10 4 drops while you only have 2 saps and a shadow strike
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent slams your face with troggs and spells while you struggle to even control the board
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent piles on armor until you run out of cards or he summons a monster to sweep you and your board to the tune of 25 damage
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent out deathrattles you with value beasts and tokens
>tfw playing as rogue and your opponent heals to full 5 times in a game while you run out of cards or he summons a monster to sweep you and your board to the tune of 25 damage
>tfw playing as rogue and your get a miracle combo or yogg but it isnt enough or it completely fucks you over

>tfw playing as rogue
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I really like this card, is there any ok C'thun rogue deck?
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>>140896156
>>Patron is cancer!
>>No one cares anymore
because they nerfed the shit out of it
>>Reno is cancer!
>>No one cares anymore
because they just bought in a shitload of burst damage and took away most other neutral healing. also, getting rid of half the cards with standard mode made reno building a lot more difficult
>>C'thun is cancer
no, the ubiquitous netdecking is cancer
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>>140896787
rogue is good
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>>140896968
netdecking is literally impossible to prevent in all games
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>>140896787
>tfw playing against rogue and it removes all your shit for 0 mana
>tfw playing against rogue and it sprints for 3 mana and gains card advantage
>tfw playing against rogue and it miracles its entire deck into its hand and deals 30 damage to face in a single turn
>tfw playing against rogue and every minion is a deathrattle
>tfw playing against rogue and he renos, shadowcasts it for a 1/1, and then shadowsteps the caster for another 1 mana reno
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>>140893184
Congrats, you somehow managed to make a worse Anuberak, at least Anuberak doesn't actively help face decks kill you.
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>>140896958
C'Thun Rogue with Shadowcasters and shit is shenanigans.

It's sort of an anti-C'Thun C'Thun deck, it crushes in C'Thun mirrors but loses to aggro automatically pretty much.

It's also by far the most fun C'Thun deck.
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>priest buffs the shit out of northshire cleric and acolyte of pain
>draws tons of cards
>immediately gets a full hand
>next draw is his c'thun which he's forced to discard

spectacular
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>>140897110
>worse Anuberak
literally retarded
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>>140893184
>for a class with no healing taunts or board clears
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>>140896958
https://manacrystals.com/decklists/388-c-thun-rogue
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>>140896981
Show me a rogue deck that beats Aggro or at least 3 of the top 5 decks in ladder atm
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>>140897103
Prep+Sprint is 4 mana. :^)
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>>140893531
uhhh what
hunter is the worst class in the game right now by far
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>>140897043
fine, but for ladder to be 95% netdecks, and even worse 95% of the same 3 netdecks, indicates a toxic community. hearthstone is shit on the dev level and the player level
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This is overrated in constructed. Fight me.
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>be one week ago
>everybody in /hsg/ saying Knife Juggler is shit, and you should dust them
>WotOG release comes by
>Build Zoo
>keep winning games with Knife Juggler+Forbidden Ritual combo and a 9 attack Darkshire Councilman
It looks like Juggler losing that 1 attack point really made a difference, huh? I bet all of you peaople who dusted your copies feel pretty stupid right now.
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>>140896625
>Facing rogues
>Facing hunters
How is rank 20 treating you?
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>>140897348
it is. not gonna fight ya
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>>140897348
dies to zoo
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>>140897238
3 of the top 5 decks are C'Thun decks and C'Thun Rogue beats all other C'Thun decks.
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>>140897238
any miracle/malygos rogue
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>>140897365
you do realize dusting these gave you their full value back, right? which means one could just craft them back for the same amount of dust

boy I bet you feel stupid now
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>tfw dunking 21 damage out of hand on a healadin for lethal
>the elephants will destroy you
Healadins are so obnoxious, feels good man.
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whats worse?
Current zoo or undertaker hunter?
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>>140897681
freeze mage
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>you only had 1600 dust
>you're a poorfag
>you crafted Y'Shaarj
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>>140897681
Pre-nerf Undertaker Hunter.

Current zoo loses to 1 damage board wipes.
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FUCK WHY is this game so hard, im only at rank 10 it should be easy right now
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>>140897681
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>>140896787
Sounds like you're shit at rogue desu
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>>140897784
Only if you can immediately take board control after
Otherwise they just refill it
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I don't really like this new meta. Everyone is just playing c'thun decks or aggro. It's better than the old one but now there are so many play on curve and win decks and trying to play anything else is just asking to lose. I'm already so fucking sick of c'thun and it's 90% of the decks I play against. Now we get to have everyone curve out with the exact same minions! Oh boy!
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>>140897742
Play Naga Warrior/Shaman (with big taunts and whatnot) or ramp druid. You'll be fine.
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>>140897842
>3rd day of the season
>Rank 10
Rank 10 is basically rank 5 for the first week and a half of the month
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>>140897961
Trying to play fatigue like you normally would is hard as fuck
I dont want to play midrange game i dont want to please stop forcing me to midrange every one of my decks
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>>140897681
Zoo is pretty fucking bad especially when you draw like shit and they have a 3/2, a 2/2 with choice of draw, and a scaling 1/5 on turn 3 that you can't remove easily.
Not to mention any minion can become a 5/5 at a moment's notice or a 2/3 can be played that turns 1/1s into 2/2 Taunts
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>>140897681
Undertaker hunter hands down
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>>140897681
Current zoo
>Loses to Malygos Rogue
>Loses to new Patron
>Loses to Midrange Shaman (the one that runs Lightning Storm)
Eh, Undertaker Hunter was worse
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I have 14k dust lying around.

Wat do. I wanted to make N'Zoth heal Pala. But aggro faggots and priest fuck it hard, right?

What about 2 Rogue decks? I could make Miracle and Deathrattle.
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>>140898074
I feel like control style decks got even worse because midrange is so insane now and removal/board clears that aren't brawl just can't keep up. There are just way too many strong threats one after another. If you're not playing a proactive deck and they curve out you're just done. It fucking sucks
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>>140897961
I'm currently running a Fatigue Mage deck with Reno/Elise/le meme god of random spells and so far it's been pretty good
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>>140897320
The ladder system is to blame for that. Since everybody starts at 16 or below, it becomes a grind every single season. The incentive to climb the ladder as fast as possible is to play aggro because, your games are shorter and able to win more games over time. The ladder reset is the issue here. It would be better if players who made legend stay in legend, or everybody just go down 5 ranks from where they were when the season ended, instead of sending everybody back close to the beginning.
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>>140896958
You could play Reno N'zoth C'thun like me and have the time of your life
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>>140897348
Nah, it's good because Shaman decks have naturally lots of taunts.
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fuck this highmane meme
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>>140898293
I've played a fair bit of N'zoth paladin. Aggro's a bit of a mixed bag, I run infested tauren to help blunt them a little, but yeah, priest is a rough matchup, especially if they entomb good deathrattles like sylvanas and cairne.
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What's the best priest deck these days?
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>tfw my favorite deck bloodlust shaman is now fun again
Evolve Midrange Bloodlust shaman, hype as fuck
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>>140898293
If you run double Forbidden Healing and good Taunts like Cyclopian Horror you should be fine.

Priest in general fucks Paladin hard so you just have to try and bait their good removal (Entomb) on lesser targets. Remember they love to take Tirion so they'll always hold onto Entomb for him, if you have multiple bombs in hand you should play them immediately after a card gets Entombed for the highest chance of it sticking to the board.
Since Priests are missing Lightbomb now you shouldn't really have any issues winning after pulling off N'Zoth
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>>140897591
If you spent your dust on something else, like many people did, and don't have enough to craft them again, guess what? You have to crack open Classic packs again, or save up dust.

You're still stupid.
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>>140898709
I tried out loyan's bloodlust shaman but I think that fucker got lucky or something. Way too many times I've come up against decks that pack a ton of taunt and it doesn't have any burn. A few games ago I had a druid at 2 health and he dropped that new vanilla 6/8 taunt and I lost because I had no way to get through it. Needs earth shocks and burn.
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>>140898692
Probably c'thun priest. Trying to play control priest nowadays is just asking to get destroyed by c'thun druids
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>>140897917
Well, I was thinking of patron when I said that.
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>>140898871
>Needs earth shocks and burn.
Check this deck out senpai, it's what I'm running https://manacrystals.com/decklists/475-serology-s-darwin-midrange-shaman-feat-evolve
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>>140898851
>he actually believes people don't have dust to craft two rares back
sorry m8 not everyone is as poor as you lol
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>>140898851
I spent all my dust on something else, but because I'm not shit I just did two arena runs to save up enough dust to craft two rares.
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Just won like 6 games in a row with this piece of shit hunter deck in wild.

Feign Death on golem webspinner is always fun.
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>tfw c'thun decks are worse than FoN+Savage Roar

Great game blizz
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Fandral is F U N
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>>140899454
more like OP
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>>140898851
Spending your DE dust before the meta settles is the one thing you could do that's more retarded than not dusting nerfed cards in the first place.

Juggler was known to still be good the day after wotog dorpped so literally everyone with just an ounce of willpower crafted them back right there because they didn't spend their dust on LE EBIN NEW CARDS that probably turned out to be the shitty ones.

You're still retarded
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>>140899389
FoN Combo could go face, C'thun is unreliable against board presence
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>>140898871
Was it this one?
http://www.hearthstonetopdecks.com/decks/loyans-wotog-season-25-standard-1-aggro-shaman/
Because I couldn't get much luck out of it either. Could had just been I was too used to other variations
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>>140899527
But if the c'thun player has any board you just lose anyway. They drop 20+ damage onto your board and then their minions just kill you anyways. Brain dead as fuck and now only requires 1 card.
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>>140899527
Not him but C'thun decks are really boring and not fun at all to play against. The fucking epitome of the curve out to win boring midrange playstyle, and multiple classes get to play it.
I'm so glad they make up 50+% of the meta now. Fun!
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>>140899695
If you let them get a 20+ c'thun that's your deal.

Kill those midgets
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>>140897348

dies to BGH
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>>140899527
Also unfair against non minion focused decks
Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed down everybodys throats
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six down, three to go
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>>140899748
So you're saying
>cancel their battlecries
>remove brann the turn they play it
>play mana wraith
We cant do any of those things
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>>140899909
Play a faster deck or cancer warrior
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>maxed out gold for the day
why is there even a limit
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>>140899828
Check out fiddy cent over here
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Just logged on in a long while(Last time i played way during TGT) and i hardly comprehend half the shit that is being played right now. Heard about standard and decided to take a look. Currently on the fence about dusting some cards.

>Double Molten giants for Double shadowcaster
Used to play echo giants and old handlock(So many variants of it now it seems) and Miracle rogue seems like in a good spot.

>Golden Tinkmaster for Yogg/N'zoth or Twin emperors.
Leaning toward the twin emperors since relying on RNG while fun has screwed me sideways before.
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>>140899964
Bots

Which ironically doesn't stop bots
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>>140899964
bots
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>>140899797
>Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed down everybodys throats
Fucking this. Midrange meta is the worst.
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>>140899748
Playing 2x arrakoa, cultist panada-man and beckoner of evil means you only need to have that little gnome faggot in play for 1 turn each. Plus it's not like 15 damage is much better.
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>>140899797
>non minion focused decks
kill yourself freeze player
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>>140900065

makes them way less profitable though
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>>140899828
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>>140900161
Malyrogue actually
suicide off of a coffee table zoo player
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>>140900161
shut the fuck up cuckthun
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>>140899828
>2 shield slams
wow...
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>>140899797
>Blizzard is forcing arena type play in constructed
>midrange is dead
>arena tempo rogue isn't viable in constructed
I dunno m8. It's mostly memerange shaman (aggro shell with evolve and fire elementals), hunter with reach and C'thun decks "play X/X+1 C'thun minions on curve".
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>>140899389

>this shitter already forgot the evil days pre-patch

lmao kill yourself

every time i see i'm up against a c'thun deck i praise god for the free win
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>>140900258
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holy shit mana addict is a fun one of in miracle
>running out of options as you dont draw auctioneer
>yolo stealth mana addict and do 15-30 damage if it survives assuming you saved key spells for you auctioneer
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>There are people whining ITT they can't hold 9 spells in hand and OTK someone from 30 because muh C'thun

Shut the fuck up

This isn't magic
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>>140900363
>Midrange is dead
All of those decks you mentioned are midrange. Midrange is fucking thriving.
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>>140900485
but freeze mage isnt hindered by c'thun
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>>140900336

still won.
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>>140900485
It's also not ygo nigger
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>>140900583
Every game has an "Exodia"
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>>140900620
What's Magic's Exodia(s)?
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>>140900620
Every game that isnt hearthstone has mechanics to counter exodia
Mechanics
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Is this the OC thread?
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>>140900694
There's tons of em, it's usually cards that require all colors.
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>>140900485
It's not even that.
Midrange is just straight up boring as fuck, and the fact that at least half the decks you play nowadays are brainless c'thun decks make the game a lot less fun, c'thun druid being the worst offender.
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>>140900698
>Thinking blizzard will ever put up a sideboard or a graveyard
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>>140900725
So Rainbow decks are the equivilant of Exodia decks? Sounds inconsistent
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>>140900775
Until its a thing or discard becomes a dual usage ability cthun has no counters besides playing the same way
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>>140896368
>>140896368

this isnt that good

this card is only really good if you can combo it with meme cards
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>>140900813

>rainbow decks

get with the times grandpa
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>really want to make N'zoth rogue work
>Somewhat decent matchup against agro decks if i don't mulligan like shit
>Mfw other control decks still beat me almost every time since they have superior board clears
Feels bad man. I really want to get my golden rogue someday but playing the class is such a struggle in ranked.
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>>140900775
>Blizzard continues to print very specific counter cards in a game with no sideboard even in a tournament setting
>>140900813
>Rainbow decks
Anon please, there's so much mana fixing nowadays playing conflux is nothing
Besides emrakul is colorless so there's an exodia you don't even need any colors for
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what are current arena class power rankings ?
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This guy is pretty good in paladin'zoth
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>Yogg-Saron for 17 spells
>He casts Thoughtsteal three times, stealing two Sylvanas, two Corrupted Healbots and a Justicar Trueheart

All the times he's fucked me in the ass prior were worth it
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why is shifter zerus so fun???
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>>140901006
I'm not even in the old times. Everything I know about Magic has been through /hsg/ and a few friends that used to play.

Are there any other cards like this, or is White the only colour that can pull the wonky win cons?
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>>140899315
Anybody can get at least 4 wins in arena.

>>140899525
>NOT dusting nerfed cards is retarded
>Juggler is still good
If Juggler is still good, then why even disenchant him? It really calls you card evaluation skills into question when you hit the DE button because, you thought losing that 1 attack made him unplayable. The only cards that should have been dusted are Arcane Golem, Master of Disguise, and maaaaaaaybe Blade Flurry and Keeper of the Grove.
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>>140901134
shit tier
hunter

fun ruining
mage

okay tier
everything else
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post STORIES
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>>140900694
There's a few cards that say "You win the game" on them. One of the most egregious (and thus banned in a lot of formats) is coalition victory.

The opposite would be "target opponent loses the game" which is seen on Door to Nothingness http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=288992

There's also cards that prevent winning or losing, such as Platinum Angel http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=401640

and Abyssal Persecutor http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=389422
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>>140901210
It's irrelevant if juggler remains good because you literally lose nothing by dusting him with a full refund.
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Do C'Thuntrol Warriors run double brawl?
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>>140901310

some do some don't
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>playing cancer C'thun druid
>only win condition is dropping my C'thun after he's massive, as I basically only run minions that are synergistic
>get him up to 19 attack
>drop emperor
>next turn play brann, inervate, C'thun
>kill my opponent from over 20 health and two big guys on the board
>I can feel his rage
>Spectacular!

This meta is so fun
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>>140901310
it depends on your playstyle and the decks you're facing
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Should I bother saving gold to unlock the LoE wings?
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>>140901560
every single legendary in there is useable
probably the most value you're going to get out of an adventure
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>>140901560
All the legendaries other than Rafaam are playable so definitely
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>>140901268
>>140900694

For posterity's sake here's a list of all alternate win condition cards. This doesn't include stuff like Triskaidekaphobia that makes other people lose the game.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=29924
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=2394
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=265418
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=136048
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=288878
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366414
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=24567
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=29978
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=43548
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=33697
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=401878
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=407567
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=150992
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=366244
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=230788
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=180620
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=369038
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=135259
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=193467
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=73959 (from a joke set)
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=9773 (Likewise)

>>140901209
White has the most, but every colour has at least one and so do artifacts.
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>>140901661
Rafaam is playable in brawls though.
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>tfw ram wrangler gets you a jungle moonkin
>against freeze mage
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>>140901774
fuck freeze mage

THE most anti-fun deck in a game full of awesome decks
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>All 5 of the decks you made with last meta's dust and gold is consistently keeping you between rank 18 and 19 in the current meta

I just don't know anymore.
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>>140901661
rafaam has been used in tournaments though
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>Playing Shaman
>Control Priest over and over again
>Go on losing streak back to 19
>As soon as I hit 19 come up against a Control Paladin who counters everything I do

How the hell is Shaman supposed to cope with Control, exactly?
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>>140901139

yes I want nothing more than to heal my enemy
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>>140901287
Except for the dissatisfaction in knowing that you were wrong, your card analysis is shitty, and have to click the enchant button.
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>>140901883
lol
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>>140901883
>Oh no something's wrong, my cancer deck has a weakness PLS FIX BLIZZARD
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>>140901139
I'm building a N'Zoth Pally right now and I'm kinda curious if I should run him.
On one hand, having a 6/6 for 5 mana is pretty good because it can trade with every Standard 5 drop and notable things like Twin Emps. It also trades with Sylvanas well due to the Deathrattle being beneficial to your opponent and it leaving Healbot with 1 health.
But if you run 2 then you're giving your opponent 16 health worth of healing and 32 if you get both off N'Zoth.
Is it worth it being a removal target for the stats?

I'm also wondering if I should be building N'Zoth lists more like Midrange with notable minions like Twilight Summoner, Tirion, Sylvanas, Infested Tauren, etc.
Or should I go more Control with double Doomsayer and Equality/Pyro?
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>>140901886
>he thinks zombie chow was a bad card
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F U N S T O R I E S
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>>140901719
Every time I see this card I shed a single tear of joy.
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Patron or tempo warrior, /hsg/? I've been playing a fair amount of both and I think I like tempo better.
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>>140901913
What dissatisfaction? Are you really so autistic you feel things when you dust cards?
There is no judgement involved in dusting full refund cards, you dust them because you lose nothing by doing so, who fucking cares if you recraft a few?
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>Yogg shadowsteps himself
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>>140901661
But Rafaam is playable. I actually play him in my C'thun Warrior and he is good in most Control Warrior decks.
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>>140901661
rafaam is great, don't be a shitter
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>>140901883
Switch to zoo and watch all the control cucks fall to the might of the powerful jew. Counter to what the rank 20 plebs here believe, shaman isn't good.
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>>140901838
Fuck off Kibler
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>>140902115
Some other card would probably be better.
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>>140902194
>tfw Rafaam's intro line isn't RAAAAFAAAAAM THE SUPREEEEME ARCHAEOLOGIST.

They should have just done that desu fampai
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>two years later, this is still one of the strongest openings in Hearthstone.

Why is this allowed?
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>>140900694
Stuff like hedron alignment, felidar sovereign, triskaidekaphobia, and loads of others I don't know about if you mean "cards that say you win instantly if you meet their requirements" but magic allows you to counter most spells, meaning that those instant win conditions can be stopped in play and there's at least one card (platinum angel) that outright prevents any sort of win until it's killed.

Also there are loads of combinations where you can instantly kill an opponent that aren't "you lose the game explicitly right now" but are "you will die if you don't counter, kill, or exile certain cards on the board right this instant." Very slight difference.
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>>140902262
He's right though.
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Any suggestions on how to tweak this? The Frost Giants feel a bit weak and I'm not sure what to replace them with
The Midnight Drake has been MVP though, it's so good with Shadowflame
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Just started playing, disenchanted some shit and built the start of an aggro paladin deck. Is the full league of explorers worth? I mainly need keeper of uldaman
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>>140902302
He's a very good top-end lategame threat. Even if your opponent removes him they will likely have to deal with an army of 3/3s.

I don't see why you say he's not playable.
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>>140902334
Because it requires you to win a literal coin flip and start with two specific cards in your hand?

Also because Mage is overpowered, because it gets the best spells in a game where there is no interaction with, and barely any counter to, spells.
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>>140901883
>blizzard keeps giving shaman the most retarded broken shit
>shaman STILL can't be a tier 1 deck

They should just admit this hero power was fucking retarded and change it
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I guess the C'thun warrior is pretty good.
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>>140901838
it literally ruins the game

>hey I know you wanted to play hearthstone, but how about you CHILL OUT while I practice counting to 30
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>>140902481
>only people at rank 20 struggle against shaman
Explains a lot when you read the posts in these generals.
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>>140902413
It's very fun, though also very easy.
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>>140902367
Have an example of a "remove this or die" combination?
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>>140902413
A lot of good cards in there necessary for a lot of decks. It's worth it. it gets cycled out in less than 7 months
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>>140902481
How do you read this LGBT chart?
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>>140902398
How's frost giant working for you so far?
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>>140900490
They don't feel like midrange at all. People used to call old beast hunter "midrange" too but it sucked against aggro.
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>>140902674
Are you retarded? Do you not know the class colors?

wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Class_colors
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>>140901883
You don't really, pray you get a good starting curve and they don't draw into too much removal, don't flood the board or leave it vulnerable to consecrate, nova's, circle of death etc. Hold onto your spells and win conditions for bursting them in the face for lethal when you can't get past taunts or anything on the board. Your minions are going to get toasted one way or another, your job is to get them to push just enough damage for your spells and rock biter hammer to finish the match when you run out of steam.
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>>140902763
Sounds like you're just not as good as Amaz
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>>140902729
I'm on the fence with it. It's strong with so many people playing slow C'thun decks, but against anything aggro it's a dead draw since I'm not Life Tapping as much.
I might cut one for a Power Overwhelming.
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>>140902763
>He doesn't know the secret miracle rogue deck
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>>140902771
>WoW
Ok that explains it, it just has to use retarded colors for classes.

>I AM THE SALMON WARRIOR XD
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>>140901958

>he thinks this is like zombie chow

zombie chow could be played on turn 1
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>>140902040
You're missing the point to what I'm saying. Why would you disenchant a card in the first place when you know it is still good? Your the one who calls me retarded for not dusting Knife Juggler, and lo and behold, it's still a good card.
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>>140901886
You are playing slow paladin, deck with zero burst. This healing is mostly irrelevant.
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does anyone play wild? Should I just disenchant all my shit. Makes me feel dirty playing with Dr. Booms, gross
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>>140902790
What about draw power? That seems to be the biggest issue I'm seeing with any type of Shaman, as Mana Tide Totem always seems to die instantly.
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Yo guys make sure you vote in the /hsg/ VG League poll and voice your opinion on how you want our general presented to the rest of the board.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1waNc94C3FCm9cZ10C0MQBXAOEbWphGtC1NirLKrRCIU/viewform
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>>140902763
I played maly miracle to legend last season, it shits on cthun druid and is pretty solid against most other things. It takes a while to learn though.
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>>140902771
who the fuck knows that? I thought shaman was orange
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>>140902956
M8 the colors are literally the same background color for the class cards.
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>People complaining that they can't pass rank 15
>Most streamers are not even rank 10 yet
Come the fuck on, it's not that hard. Tip: all the old aggro decks that are not shaman are still good
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>>140903030
what's a roster?
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>>140902965
Playing zombie chow much later sucks, while 6/6 trades with big guys and requires stronger removal
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>>140903068
You guys really are retarded.
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>>140902479
Honestly, if they just made the default Hero power the one Justicar gives I think Shaman would be a lot better. Blizzard's 'lol so random' attitude towards them also pisses me off. Case in point: Lightning Storm.
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>>140903181
It's a soccer team that's simulated. Gets cool models and stuff so it looks like Kel'Thuzad is actually kicking a ball to an alcoholic Dark Iron Dwarf.

Of course in our team it's looking like an ego-driven Archaeologist will be kicking a ball to an arabian elemental lord.
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>>140903151
>playing cheesy aggro to climb
>not playing patrician Miracle
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>>140903030
I dont understand the pool, is it to update our memes or something?
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>>140902978
You're missing the point to what I'm saying. Why wouldn't you disenchant a card in the first place when you know you're getting a full refund?
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>>140902771
>death knight is deep red
i feel like they should have made him teal
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>>140903262
I've played all my share of Miracle before Standard, giving it a time for now
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>>140903284
Yeah, it's for a virtual soccer league. Our memes are stale and a year old. We need new ones. We also get songs that play if the memes score/win games.
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>Zoolock trades dire wolf first
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>>140903224
For some reason, I recognize the card color identity when I see them, but put the color alone and I dont know which is which anymore.
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>>140903151
>not being legend already with a homebrewed deck while fucking someone's mom and being too drunk to play properly
step it up son
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>>140903083
I'm looking at warrior right now m8
The cards are brown with yellow/green embellishment. Not fucking salmon
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>>140903357
>virtual soccer league
I've been here for years and have NO IDEA what the fuck you're talking about
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>>140902257

>dominates meta
>isnt good

you are the lying jew
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>>140903370
What did he mean by this?
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>>140902101
>Yogg gang up's himself
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Any way to track your total wins?
For that 300 gold for a thousand wins
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>>140903547
Play ranked
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>C'thun warrior mirror match
>Manage to mill my opponent twice burning a doomcaller and some other junk in the process
>He is 9 cards deeper into his deck than i am
>Proceeds to draw more cards through acolyte

That's not how you play this matchup you fool!
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>>140903468
You're color blind. Warrior has and always will be brown.

>>140903482
>dominates the meta
not according to this
>>140902481
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>>140902670
>it gets cycled out in less than 7 months

what.
no way
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>>140902481
there's a pink class?
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>>140903547
Count
1
2
3
4
...
1000
It shows you in the quest tab
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>>140903626
>Warrior has and always will be brown.
>http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Class_colors
>Warrior 199 156 110 0.78 0.61 0.43 #C79C6E Tan
>Tan
Even that's the most salmon "tan" I've ever seen

But anyway, that says you're wrong too, unless you somehow reason that tan is brown.
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>>140903692
It's paladin. Priest is yellow, I guess.
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>>140903692
Paladin.
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>people honestly play C'Thun Control Warrior

For what reason?

The best way to play control in Hearthstone is NOT to run a bunch of vanilla River Crocolisks. You'll just lose to any actual control list.
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>>140903753
>Paladin is pink
Jesus christ this is a meme chart
No wonder WoW is dying, blizzard couldn't even get their colors right.
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D E A T H W I N G
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Ooze or Harrison in N'Zoth Pally?

I'm running Harry currently, but I always either overdraw when museuming doomhammer or get put ahead in fatigue against warriors.
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>>140903725
tan is light brown.
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>>140903029
With aggro shaman you kind of need to close the game out soon, like they need to be dead or near death by turn 7. Otherwise you start to fizzle against their lategame. Usually you want to watch their hand and the removals they've been using, and make sure they already used a couple frostbolts earlier for example. What I try to do is make sure I have an equally threatening target out on the field at the same time like a flametongue or a flamewreath, so when they ignore one they're getting punished. Ideally you want to hide it behind a taunting totem, spirit wolves or a vagina taunt monster.
Most likely unless you have board you're not going to play it. Personally whenever I get board control I play it, even if i could be pushing out more pressure by playing more threats that turn, but in that case you've just got make sure you can answer their potential threats next turn, but if you get that balance just right you'll run away with the game having that double card draw ontop of your board control. I don't know It'll take some practice and getting used to.
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>>140902481
>no red
>paladin is pink
>no black
uhhh
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>>140903753

priest is grey(in WoW white)
rogue is yellow
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>>140903837
>brawl.jpg
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>>140902481
From left to right for each bar since everyone here is retarded,
Warrior
Warlock
Shaman
Priest
Rogue
Paladin
Mage
Hunter
Druid
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>>140903909
You're too right.
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>>140903842
By this logic paladin and death knight are interchangeable because pink is just a light tone of red.
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>>140903590
I am playing ranked

>>140903714
I saw that total but thought it was only for the ranked matches - I played casual when I just started.

Thanks though
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how to maximize fun*?
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>>140903967
>>140903837
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>>140904017
2 lightbombs

2 whatever the fuck shadow 3 damage boardwipe infinite spells?

2 holy novas

2 holy whatever 5 damage thing

PRIEST SPELLS
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>>140904007
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>>140904017
More Old Gods.
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>>140904017

zerus
mindcontrol
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>>140904089
>I have no comeback to pure logic so I'll post a noose
FUGGIN EBIN XBBBB
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Yogg please
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>tfw paladin actually fights with honor again
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>>140904017
cabal
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Why, thematically, does the Paladin get secrets and not the Rogue? Is there something in WoW classes I've missed?
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>>140904152
Is this a new york times political cartoon?
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>>140904180
>no faggot bots
>no Muster for faggots
>no more Murloc OTK faggotry
>no cancer secret paladin

IT FEELS GOOD
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>>140903965

>priest yellow
>rogue gray

you tried senpai
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I feel bad for Hunter. It's shit in arena, it's shit in constructed.
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>>140904235
Paladin is a class of justice and retribution: having trap cards that retaliate to opponent's minion attacks makes sense.
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>>140904313
>hunters mark got nerfed last patch even though it was the worst class going into Whispers
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>>140904235

neither paladin or rogue got secrets in wow
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>>140904235
No, just ben being retarded. Hunter is the only class in wow with actual traps, and rogue had the ability to see and disarm them.
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>>140904235
they couldn't think of a mechanic to make paladin play uniquely to the other classes so they gave him secrets
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>>140902670
>it gets cycled out in less than 7 months
wat
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>>140904269
What else would it be. Paladin in wow is pink and in hearthstone is yellow. Priest should be white, and rogue should be black be neither of those colors are on there.

Those 3 class colors are misleading
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>magic missile kills the minion and never hits my face
>every single fucking time
>always
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>>140904429
Priest should be black actually
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>>140904235
The same reason priests are better at stealing stuff, mages have more burst damage, warriors have more weapon synergy.

HS design team hates rogues. They're the redheaded step child of the game.
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>>140903965
Why the fuck isn't Duid brown? Warrior should be crimson like the cards
Warlock actually matches up but it should be purple, not violet
Shaman matches it's cards, no issue here
Why not Paladin? They're the ones with the yellow cards
Why not black for Rogues?
Pink makes no fucking sense for Paladin, or any class for that matter. Priest should have got grey for white and Paladin yellow.
No issue here.
Couldn't they have used a deeper green like emerald or basil? Why radioactive puke?
You know, when I think of nature the first colour that comes to mind is bright orange

Who the fuck was in charge of this colour scheme? It's terrible all around
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>>140904447
>4hp
>full board
>he plays cult sorcerer + missiles
>all of them hit my face

S T O R I E S
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>>140902481
>Rogues and hunters in charge of being relevant
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>>140904478
>priests are better at stealing stuff, mages have more burst damage, warriors have more weapon synergy.

its like this in WoW too
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>>140902578
Sure. Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood. One makes you gain life whenever the opponent takes damage, the other makes the opponent take damage whenever you gain life. Combo'd together with ANY form of damage or self-healing and it turns into a (theoretically) infinite loop of self-healing and damage. The once that loop kicks off, you need to destroy, exile, or bounce one of the enchantments or the damage/healing source at some point before you're dead. When a player starts a loop like that, the other player makes a choice to intervene (if the combo will infinitely cycle down his life he can intervene at any point before he is dead, although practically speaking most people would rather play their combo breaker at 20 life than at 1) or take it. If he intervenes and successfully breaks the combo then the game continues as normal at whatever point in the loop he decided to intervene at. If not, gg.

And that's considered a pretty crappy version of that type of combo since the two enchantments costs 10 mana put together, plus some other card that allows you to heal or do damage.
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>>140904235
Devs raped the lore. They didn't know what to do with paladin class identity and gave them a bunch of useless cards. Then they released Mysterious Challenger abomination to buff them and brag about great design choices. Read the article, they consider MC a good card to buff unused cards. Now that MC is gone and will rotate out in a year, we will forget about them forever. Of course Blizz will release a couple of trash filler secret cards in oncoming sets.
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>>140904409
>>140903681
>Standard format will be updated to include only card sets added to the game in the current or previous calendar year
LoE was released last year. Next year, it wont be apart of the standard set.
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>>140904652
It's exactly the same in WoW. They have no fucking clue how to make a paladin
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>>140903297
Because the card is still useful, and I want to play it. There is no reason for me to disenchant it, even if it is a full refund. Would you disenchant Sylvanas as is with no nerf for 1600 dust? Hell, there are people who regretted dusting Leeroy when he got nerfed, and found out he was still worth keeping around.

Now, give me an actual arguement, and answer my question for real this time.
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>>140904774
I won't miss Reno, but I will miss Brann.
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>rank 20 pretty hard to get out of
>rank 19 way easier

???
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>>140904652
>they consider MC a good card to buff unused cards.

but thats what happened
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The new zoo has literally no counters.
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>>140904957
rank 20 has netdeckers trying to earn golden portraits

rank 19 has legitimate shitters in it
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>>140905029
fucking tempo mage faggots
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>>140905029
Control Priest running two Excavated Evils on top of Holy Novas, Auch. Circle, and Shadow Word: Horror should be enough to stem the tide.

However, that's 10 cards already, all board clears. Hard to get an actual deck going to face not-Zoo with that setup.
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>>140905029
freeze mage
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>tfw could ladder consistently with Zoo but you played it for two days after the Woog release and you're already fucking bored of it.

>>140904652
>>140904856
Honestly I think Hearthstone should have fewer classes, they can't seem to settle on a mechanical identity for Paladins or Rogues by the sound of it. Wouldn't it have made more sense to just cut it entirely? Surely that's why they never made Monks or Death Knights as a class either.

If I were making Hearthstone I'd have merged what the Paladin and the Priest do (healing and reducing enemy stats) into one, and probably do something similar with Rogue and Hunter.
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>>140904912
The worst part is, cards released at the end of a year have strictly less value than those released in lets say march.

March means a 21 month life cycle
November means a 13 month life cycle

Yet you're paying the exact same amount of money for the cards. Anyone who preorders or spends real money on this shit is retarded.
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>Before Standard and WotG the top deck were
>Patron Warrior / Control Warrior / Zoolock / Combo Druid. Secret paladin dropped T1 but was there for months
>After the update the top decks are shaping to be
>Patron Warrior / Control Warrior / Zoolock / C'Thun Druid / N'Zoth Paladin
NOTHING HAS CHANGED
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>>140905029

It's retarded that a deck whose only drawback is "Does your opponent draw the exact cards needed to counter you in time?" can exist
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>Matched up against the greediest nigger priest i've seen in a while
>2 entombs, 2 cabals, shadow madness and the new thoughtsteal shade
>Stealing minions left and right
>Knows i still have C'thun so he's intentionally keeping 1 entomb in hand
>Mfw i never play C'thun or Sylvanas and instead beat him just through fatigue

Double brawl and turn 6 justicar is so godlike in control games.
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>>140904624
So that combo's effects all trigger on the same turn, and the defender can choose to disrupt it (if he can) whenever he wants?
That means to interrupt it you would still be taking 1 damage plus whatever damage he used to trigger it, right?

How does Exile work by the way? I know it removes cards from play entirely, but is it an expensive ability to use? What cards can Exile?
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>>140897308
>play dragon hunter
>princess onto D2
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>>140905245
Everything has changed. Now you get to pay more money to play in the same meta
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>faceless summoner will never summon you to help him be less "lonely"
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Need a Watch and Learn
Noodle#1808 NA
Thanks in advance
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>>140905407
Does the quest work with casual?
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>>140905405

>faceless summoner
>has a face
BROOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140905534
its a metaphor you dip
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>>140905534
all the faceless have a face
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>some guy on Reddit got 200+ wins in 20 arena runs
What is this, I don't even...
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>>140905502
Ranked, casual and tavern brawl I believe.
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>>140904503
It is terrible. It's half based on the colors used for classes in WoW on damage meters and half pulled out of their asses.

And even in WoW most of those don't make sense either. Like rogue is represented by fucking yellow of all things. Nothing screams "stealthy operative who clings to the shadows" like fucking yellow I guess.

From what I remember:
>death knight - red
totally makes sense for blood and general sense of evil
>monk - teal
same color as most of their spells, no beef there
>shaman - dark blue
same color as water which resto uses, passable
>warlock - purple
same color as shadow magic, ok
>priest - white
yeah, that's good
>mage - light blue
makes sense for frost

And then everything else is a complete clusterfuck.
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>>140905710
I'll add you after I lose this ranked game.
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>>140905534
You call that a face? It's an octopus attached to shoulders ya dingus.
A face needs a nose and a mouth, the eyes are only 1/3 of the formula
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>go in casual for quest
>Vs freeze mage
good thing I'm trying healadin
>>
>Balanced
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Is dragon priest playable in standard?
I put 1 copy of the new dragon in the deck, but it doesn't seem very strong.
I'm using 2 holy novas and 2 escavated evil because fuck zoo and shaman.
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>>140905157
Rogue had too much identity to fit in the basic set and this is why they sucked so much. Secrets, stealing cards, stealth, quick and powerful attacks, poisons. That's a lot. Devs decided to cut it instead of leaving stumbles like couple of secrets for later development. They settled on stealth and damage.

Hearthstone is a gallery of failed design choices. Members of the Church who are better at stealing than professional criminals, that's deep. Paladins who fight without honor. Hunters that were supposed to play control but got so many great tempo cards, control style became irrelevant and weak. Druids who can't play ramp, shamans who were constantly pushed to the top.
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Did anyone try wild? Did the nerf + new cards change anything worthwhile there?
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>>140905979

>playing wild

It's like you want to abuse yourself.
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>>140905979
wild is the same as before just with more shaman and cthun
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>>140905979
>Playing wild
Literally why?
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>>140905973
>shamans who were constantly pushed to the top.
I know you play at rank 20, but this just isn't true for any point in the history of this game
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>>140905761
Rogue should be dark green (poisons)
Paladin should be light yellow (spells)
Druid should be light green (nature)
Hunter should be brown (beast fur/wood)
Warrior should be ???
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is it just me or is priest the least fun class to play against in the entire fucking game
>4 mana flamestrike
>kills you with your own minions
>emote spamming faggots only second to mages.
can we just remove the class from the game. im pretty sure everyone who doesn't play this fucking gay ass class would be glad for it.
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>EU ladder is nothing but anti-aggro priest decks

I guess it's time to play rogue again
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>>140906232
Warrior should be Red
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>>140906276
>not playing priest just to drag out the game and fuck with the opponent
Baka desu fampai
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>>140906340
But thats death knight already
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>>140905029

The minions are way less sticky compared to Wild Zoo so you should be more vulnerable to board clears... I think. N'zoth Paladin can rip you a new asshole.
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What if Doom! had been this?
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>>140906230
Thanks for the bonus (You)'s friend
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>>140905979
I've been playing Wild with Dragon Paladin mostly because I'm butthurt I lost Chow/Minibot/Coghammer and since it can actually pull wins there.

Almost everyone there seems to be people who didn't preorder and are playing the old decks, with a couple new cards thrown in. Secret Paladin gets BTFO by Eater of Secrets and shit like OTK Murloc Paladin has ascended to a new level of cancer with Forbidden Healing.
I've only run into 1 C'Thun deck as opposed to 90% of the decks in Standard being C'Thun.
Other than that the big bad cancers like Combo Druid and even things like Face Hunter are toned down because of the nerfs, which is appreciated. I've yet to see a Handlock or a Renolock in either Standard or Wild since the nerfs.
A few Warriors seem to like Wild for their Death's Bite, which is understandable
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>>140906276
I'd rather play priest than control warrior t b h

>le justicar meme
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>>140906410

That's too many Mal'Ganises. Not like BoD ever summons anything else.
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Has control warrior improved or worsened against aggro shaman and zoo since Old Gods? I figure they have answers to the 7/7 and zoo is less sticky. I could only imagine it got better but I haven't played.
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>>140906519

>Mal'ganis
>Standard
Pick one
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>>140906519

>wild.
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>>140906410
I like this version more
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>>140906078
My dear rank 15 face Thrall, Shamans got good cards every expansions but class overall lacked consistency and synergy with hero power. Naxx: reincarnate was meh for class but eggs and creepers were useful
GvG: the best 3 mana weapon, crackle and windfurry, neptulon would be great in any other class
BRM: solid spell and minion, but it didn't help braindead face strategy so it sucked
TGT: shitton of good cards, didn't took until LoE
LoE: one of the best 1 mana minions, fat and with overload synergy
WotOG: devs couldn't push shaman harder, overload synergy and ultimate button synergy, Thing from Below.
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>>140906552
>>140906570
The rng effects in standard use the wild set. You'd know this if you played the game instead of shitposting
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How is this looking? What should I change?
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>>140906689
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>>140906405
Death Knight should be something else like Teal
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>>140906689

How does it feel to be absolutely wrong?
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>>140906689

No they don't.
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>>140906712
>What should I change?
class
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>>140906689
No, Murloc Knight and anything that could give you a random Beast did because the quests on them were extended to allow Old Murk Eye and Captain's Parrot to still be obtained, which lead to a fuckup. You won't get Iron Juggernaut if you Renounce into Warrior for instance, or Dr. Boom out of Paletress.
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>summon back all deathrattle minions played this game
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>>140906815
B-bun anon-fampai I want to play midrange hunter the most! Don't be mean :(
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>>140906581

Why would you play a card that makes you lose the game?
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Now that she's the new dr 7, put in any deck and make it better legendary. Should I craft her?
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>>140905334
Depends on what you do to stop it. Countering any part of the combo while it's still on the stack (about to be played - in a proper, "every move is declared as it happens" game, you play a spell [any card that isn't a land] and when you do you should theoretically be asking "Any response?" or "Is that ok?" as you do it to allow for counterplay in the actual phases of the game as they're happening but this often gets partially ignored in informal play) should prevent all of the damage and healing.

If both enchantments and the damage/healing source are on the board, it depends on how you're countering, when you respond, and how the combo was activated. I think you'd need somebody else to explain the intricacies of that, I don't play nearly enough to know how it all works.

Exile sends target permanent into the exile zone. It is technically possible to get cards back from exile, but there aren't that many cards that can do it/they're a pain in the ass.

Exile is a lot cheaper than you'd think. More common in white cards. The cheapest exile card I know of costs 1 white mana and lets your opponent search for and play a land in exchange for your creature being exiled. The hearthstone equivalent would be like "polymorph and destroy target creature, your opponent gains a mana crystal." That's an example of an exile that stays exiled - there are loads of cards will exile a card only as long as the card that exiled it is still on the field. Against certain deck types, that's essentially the whole game but against others it's very temporary.

Any card that says to exile something can exile something.
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>still no meta snapshot

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>140907021
>Tempostorm scrambles to damage control after making the wrong predictions AGAIN
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>>140906851
I'm still mad it doesn't let you resummon gained/given Deathrattles like Ancestral Spirit or Unearthed Raptor
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>>140907067

What wrong predictions did they make? I'm gonna rub them in Reynad's face on twitter.
>>
The shadows beckon~
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>>140906232
Different shade of red than death knight?

>>140906770
It should've been. I mean on the login screen, death knights get that cool teal interface.

Infuriatingly enough, that color is ACTUALLY USED on common damage meters as the color of pets/summons.

I'm also tempted to suggest black, but the way the default ui for the meters was setup, it would've made them look like uncolored floating numbers.
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>The feast of souls begins now!

Best entrance sound from WoG. I enjoy hearing that on turn 7 much more than WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
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>turn 10
>literally every discover card is now discover an 8 mana+ legendary
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Whenever I see this card if just reminds me of those weird concept cards from Alpha/Beta.

How would you make Nozdormu good? I think changing his statline to 4/12 is a good start, since 8/8 Dragons already outnumber 4/12s
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>>140906279
yeah it's almost funny how sad it is
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>>140907553

museum curator just found me majordomo for a win
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>>140904886
Because you always DE a card for full refund in the off chance it might not make the meta. If it doesn't, you get the dust and if it does you can recraft it without losing dust.

It's so rare that blizzard offers a full refund for cards that it's wisest to literally dust everything and wait, even if you don't feel like the card hasn't lost value. The only thing you lose is that 2 secs of time refracting it if it's still good (which is harder to tell because they don't exist in a vacuum)
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>>140907614
For a start, make his effect permanent.
>>
so is innkeeper useful or?
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>>140907614

Putting the effect on smaller, cheaper bodies would be a start
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>NA ladder is now hard anti-zoo
welp time to bring out the n'zoth
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>>140907769
>>140907854
I meant coming up with a new effect that doesn't mess with the turn timer.
It's already been proven that messing with animations and client/server calculations can lead to exploits
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The only two legendaries I've opened this expansion are Cho"Gall and Malkorok, anyone with luck worse than mine ?
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>>140908149
People opened fucking boogeymonster instead, how's two average legos comparable to this shit?
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>>140908149
25 packs, zero legos
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>>140908149
I've opened no legendaries
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>>140908015
Make it so each player can only play 1 card per turn, and put it on a cheap body.

Now it's anti aggro for control players on an empty board. It's also anti control for zoo players once they develop a board
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>>140907614
>tfw golden noz was your first legendary and your friend told you to dust him for an actual good card
Biggest mistake I ever made.
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where is this cheap aggro shaman deck that is destroying the game? i don't have enough dust for control.
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>>140908149

60 packs
Just Huehueran
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>no HURRY THE FUCK UP emote
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>>140907831

Some decks suck donkey balls (Like Magic & Madness. Don't bother playing that).
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forbidden shaping doesnt give the battlecry. SHIT
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>>140907893
Your own fault for shitting up ladder so hard these last few days
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>>140908331
It's a meme, shaman is only mediocre. Not the best
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how does this interaction work?

if servant was a minion targettable by forbidden flame, he should have triggered mirror entity before taking damage
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>>140908149
>nat, yshaarj, staghelm and anomalus from 30 ish packs

its dust i guess. wish i kept nat though.
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>>140908638
battlecry clearly happens before the secret happens and mirror entity copies the minion post battlecry
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C'Thun > Y'Shaarj
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>>140908703
Nobody has ever rated y'shaarj. Ever.
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>>140908638

>playing servant of yogg

Why do you hate yourself, anon?
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Raymond Swanland should do all the art for the game imo desu senpai.

more magic the memeing artist please ben brode
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>>140908753

Y'Shaarj is like that shortest kid in the class. Every other old gods will push him around until they buff* him.

* - Not gonna happen
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Constructed beast druid in arena is stupid fun.
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>Muh Standard will bring diversity
>running into nothing but Patron Warrior and Turtle-Priest all day
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>>140905761

>paladin pink
because they are gay
>hunter green
green is associated card with nature and shit
>druid light brown
cause trees are usually brown brah
>rogue yellow
cause there are no colours left
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>>140908876
Would Y'Shaarj be better if the minions summoned from the deck were allowed to trigger their battlecties ?
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>>140908779
hes pretty fun. half the time he kills himself, sure, but usually he uses like arcane intellect, flare, mind vision, cheapy stuff thats incredibly goof on a 5 mana 5/4. Plus he's given me cabalists tome more often than he should have
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>>140908978
>it causes the least amount of pain

who wrote this retarded shit, hanging yourself is one of the most painful ways to kill yourself
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>>140909115
Are you a ghost?
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>Switch decks to Reno C'thunlock
Suddenly matched against all the meme decks my zoo would beat
LOVING EVERY MEME BLIZZARD, MAKE YOUR RIGGED RNG MORE OBVIOUS
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>>140908978

you shieldbearers are so cute
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>>140909085

At the moment, it's too volatile for my taste. It's literally spending a card on turn 5 doing nothing for me.

If he was 4-cost, I would consider using him, as of now, Mage has enough high cost minions as it is.
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>>140908149
Onyxia Illidan from the first 5 standard packs i got since i started playing like a week ago
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>>140908149

70 packs. Hogger, Nat and Boogeymonster.

No one can beat my never lucky.
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>>140909225
new season hasn't been kind to me, kek
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this is the most disgusting art ive ever seen
it's furry autist deviantart tier
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>>140909390
blame the penny arcade people
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>>140909390

>furry
>nothing on pic got fur
wew lad
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so, is 2x curses + Noz basically lethal? Do they have the chance to play the curses?
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>paladin follow da rulz my darkshire
>he has 7 hp face
>trades in all his other minions into mine, leaving only darkshire up
>drop tenticles and hit his face for 7
Top kek
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>>140909523

So you won with zoo? Wow, you're so cool.
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>>140909253
50 packs, Mukla and Y'Shaarj.
Not too happy either
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>>140909523
Almost as good as making Light Elemental follow the rulez it won't
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>>140909585
Zoo is a patrician deck. It has the absolute highest skill cap in hearthstone.
>>
LE BALANCE FACE
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>>140909684
There is no reason Y'Shaarj shouldn't have "cannot be targeted by spells or hero powers"
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>>140909684
that card should've been friendly only
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>>140909684
>mage with lego and good 5 drops bitches about balance
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>>140909730
That effect is neither a spell or hero power
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>>140909645
>tfw people follow da rulez my tunnel troggs all the time
>tfw tunnel trogg don't play that shit
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Would a 4 mana 1/100 card be good?
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They're like long lost brothers
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>>140909684
Don't you have a spell that turns things into a 1/1 minion for 4 mana?
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>>140909787
Exactly. He already gets fucked by battlecries, at least let him escape being hex'd or poly'd
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>>140909847
BROTHERRRRRRRRRR
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>>140909390
>penny arcade artist draws comic for years
>finally starts getting decent
>decides to get his own "style"
>never improves again and creates this garbage
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>>140909523
>full board vs mage
>he has 14 hp
>8th turn
>flamestrike
>leaves up only my councilman now at 3/1
>summon onyxia
>well played
>hit his face for 9
>he clears board save for 2 whelps
>life tap
>draw shit
>mortal coil my whelp
>draw PO
>well played
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>>140909828
Fuck da rulez, face war now
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>>140909426
>>140909889
what's funny is you guys are ripping into him but he wrote an article about how he doesn't like playing hearthstone anymore because of the art on that card and Leeroy Jenkins.

So if it makes you feel any better his old style annoys him too.
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>Spreading madness deals 4 to my face
EBIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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>>140909847
hey its me ur brother
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>>140910037
RNG isn't working as reliably as hearthpwn wanted to make you believe, eh?
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>>140910024
I can't actually see a difference between that and his current art.
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>>140910140
More like that literally every game made me think
>Opponent uses spreading madness
>Wipes my board
>I use it against a nearly identical board
>Gives him lethal
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>>140909231
this just happened last game

servant of yogg and yogg saron arent meant to be played when youre winning the board. theyre the self destruct button
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is it worth having 1 blade flurry now after it's shit?
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>>140910154
the comic has stayed more or less the same, you have to look at some of the side projects they've done since then.
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>>140910258

Yogg is an all star, since even if he fails you, he fails spectacularly. Servant is instead a card that is supposed to be played for tempo purpose, except that it's usually giving the tempo to your opponent.

At 5-cost, Ethereal Conjurer is the better deal.
>>
Anyone else running Deathwing in everything now that things stay dead when they die?
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>>140910441
watch out bro i'll have a 2/1 after my harvest golems die
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>>140910441

>things stay dead

>what is N'zoth
>>
What should I spend gold on my dudes?
>>
>>140910558
A deck that's forced to run a bunch of shitty creatures since all the good deathrattles left. Only Sylvanas and Tirion are any good.
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>>140910574
arena
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>>140910574
Arenar tickets or save up for the next adventure
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>>140910654
When is the new adventure coming out?
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>>140910245
I replaced it with abomination
LITERALLY more reliable
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>>140910747
Probably like half a year from now
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hahahah why did he even sap it im having so much fun
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i'm going to craft yogg, what's the best deck for him? i want maximum memes
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>>140910880
>maximum memes
i run him in a 28 spell hunter deck when i want memes
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>>140910880

Yogg- N'zoth - Reno Rogue.
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>That new fatigue warrior list is already all over the ladder
FUN IS OVER
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>>140910416
embrace the rng anon
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>>140910928
>>140910931

post lists familia
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>>140911004
the one that trump made?
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>tfw pity timer lego finally kicked in after 37 Wog packs
I almost crafted him yesterday for the memes
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don't expect to win but but it's a fun meme and can sometimes beat really greedy priests
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>>140911139
I have no idea which fucker made this cancer, I just fucking hate it
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>>140911204
oops here anon
>>140911065
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>>140910880
I play him in a tempo mage deck. I usually get 10 or more spell casts before I play him, so it's pretty fun tossing him on board at turn 10. for memes, you play him no matter what, even if you are winning
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>>140911217
Is it c'thun and double coldlight? because that was Kripp
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>>140910880
I also have a 28 spell list, could use another lock and load though I think.
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>>140910407
I haven't read the comic in ages, are they still total cucks?
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>>140908149
Y'Shaarj + Mukla
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>>140911204
>>140911332
thanks lads
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Finishing up an aggro pally deck. Bought LOE, I'm thinking about disenchanting either Rafaam, Elise, or Mrrglton. Which is the best to dust
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>>140911443
none if you don't want to regret it in 2 months
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>>140911443
Rafaam
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>>140908149
Yogg & zerus from 60+ packs
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>>140911443
Rafaam, keep Elise and especially Mrrglton.
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>>140911535
>>140911553
That's what I was thinking
>>140911535
Sorry I'm new, what's happening in 2 months
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Post Rogue lists
Deathrattle and Miracle both welcome
I'll start with my Yogg miracle
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>>140908149
Malkorak, dusted him because i'd rather have a fun epic
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>>140911803
>random isn't fun
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fuck this garbage rng game

i buffed my cthun up to 40/40 but it was my last fucking card in my deck
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>>140911827
ive only ever seen 1 malkorak, and it gave the warrior a cursed blade
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Let's post memes
>Non-Druid Cthun decks are good
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>>140912181
>Non-Cthun Druid decks are good
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>>140912181
When I see a c'thun druid I get a free win
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C'Thun and his minions gotta be the most retarded idea Blizzard has ever implemented in this game. I'm not talking about those newbie traps decks 100% dedicated to C'Thun, I'm talking about the hybrid ones. People are already starting to abuse those broken ass minions like no tomorrow, It doesn't matter if your C'Thun is 15/15 or 50/50, above 10/10 is already good enough for the effect. They nerfed druid combo and then gave it back to every class in form of a minion, bravo!
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>>140912483
t. shieldbearer
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>>140893184

I like the idea but this card would be too slow. You would need at least 3 deaths before it turned into a nice beefy 7/8 minion, and you'd have to take 6 damage and spend 16 total mana. Also Rogue would be awful class choice. Rogues sit on a lot of cards waiting for combos, what happens when this shit gets deathrattled back into your hand of 10 cards?

>>140894371

Purty cool. Demon synergy bonus. Seems pretty powerful when using battlecry minions to give it taunt. I can't tell if it would be OP or fair, but it doesn't seem like it would be bad at all.

>>140900702

I don't know, I think some of the combos you could dish out with this card for Rogue would be too much.
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>>140904376
I still run 2 in my midrange-N'zoth list. It helps with the balanced druid 6-drop and it's a last resort if they finally drop C'thun
>>
>Best Tier

N'Zoth

>Boring Tier

C'Thun

>Shit Tier

Y'Shaarj

>Meme Tier

Yogg-Saron
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>>140912785
>meme tier not above best tier
What are you doing mein nigger
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>>140912785
put Cthun in meme tier
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>>140912785
>cthun is boring but nzoth isnt

riveting tale
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>>140912524
You wish, just you wait until the meta lists come out and you'll see
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>>140905502
It works even on solo adventures anon, just beat up the casual innkeeper and your bro gets free packs.
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>>140912861
what deck are you running

let me guess, you refuse to netdeck right?
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So now that the 400 dust has settled, can we agree this was yet again another mediocre expansion and that the release of Standard where the meta stagnant with the same 3 decks?
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>turn 2 innervate cthun chosen
>turn 3 cthun disciple
>turn 4 klaxi amber weaver

why is this ok
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is arena always better than packs now that you have a chance at getting 2?
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>>140913116
arena is apparently full of shitters at the moment so yeah go for it
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>>140913025
This expansion is easily the second best, right after League of Explorers. If you consider standard to be part of this expansions, then it's easily number one.

There's only one small thing I dislike about the expansion, and that is that C'Thun decks are noob-friendly babby's first play-on-curve deck, but that's it. The flavor's great, the cards are relevant without being blatantly overpowered (inb4 someone links that 4/10 druid card), and we see a huge number of new deck archetypes that include forgotten classic cards like Cairne.
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>>140912141

Literally happens in every card game to exist. Don't blame hearthstone for that.
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>>140912181
Is that the one that makes 10 armor or the one that heals for 10?
>>
HERE WE GO BOYS
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>>140913259
>that C'Thun decks are noob-friendly babby's first play-on-curve deck
That was the point though, like literally designed so that new players could play a deck that was slower than all out aggro

I do agree that its easily the best expansion in the game though
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>>140912141
That's what you get for building your deck around one card.
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What the fuck man
Do i just join them?

Do I just stop having fun and switch to cthun druid or totem shaman?

whats the point of playing a videogame if i cant have fun with it
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>>140913259
c'thun is way too good for how boring and unimaginative it it. Rest of the expansion is pretty cool but I was already tired of c'thun on the first day...
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>>140893857
>Call of the Wild
>5/4 and a Fireball
What the fuck are you talking about?
>>
I legitimately don't get where all the c'thun complaints are coming from. I think i've played a total of 60 or so games since wotog dropped and I don't think I have lost to cthun druid once. Steward Paladin and Zoo, plenty of times. Miracle Rogue and N'zoth Paladin, eh sometimes. Freeze Mage, the rare times that I see them. C'thun Druid, not once.

It's so slow. It does nothing for ten fucking turns in which they might not even have the minion they were pumping up the whole game. A straight up 4/10 is the terror of the deck?
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How far should I go with this arena deck?
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>>140913604
C'thun should have been minion damage only, and it should target all minions.
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>>140913765
I can see how complete babby's cry about C'Thun decks because they can't possibly fathom the idea of using class removal (gasp) in their decks instead of being reliant on the now nerfed BGH.
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>>140913778
C'thun should have been an 8/8 and no way to buff him and no related minions. Maybe 10/10.
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>>140913765
The more amazing thing is that people complain about it. It's understandable that you complain about face hunter because it's too fast or control warrior because it's too slow but cthun druid is right in the middle. It's built to stand as the very basic midrange deck of the game. Play minions that are statted regularly until turn 10, the maximum amount of mana crystals in the game, and then play your big flashy effect.
>>
Nigger Priest Mirror Match = Lesbian Sex
Aggro Hunter / Aggro Shaman Mirror Match = Gay Man Sex
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>>140913926
>that are statted regularly until turn 10
>for/ten
>>
>hyper aggro enemy
>run two consecrates
>run two wild pyromancers
>run two forbidden healing
>all in the bottom 12 cards

god fucking help me
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>>140913765
I don't, either.
The only C'Thun decks that are looking solid right now are warrior and possibly druid, and it has more to do with their C'Thun minions and class shit like stalling or ramping being very good for this kind of deck than with playing C'Thun shit and a big dude in the late game. Though that 4/2 divine shield is pretty ridiculous, to be fair.
Anyway, aggro beats it, control beats it, miracle beats it, maybe other C'Thun decks don't.
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>>140913994
oh my bad, a super snapjaw with no other effects is the bane of all decks

lets just hope that people don't have sap, hunter's mark, polymorph, hex, earth shock, or execute which they don't need to save for anything else except maybe twin emps and cthun
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>People implying that Blizzard "successfully slowed the game down"

This dumb shit meme fuckery needs to stop right now. Day 1, people were playing C'thun decks because that's ALL they had. The ladder is nothing but Warlocks and Paladins with the occasional C'tun decks littered in.

If you actually believe this expansion is going to be any different from the others you are completely fucking wrong. Enjoy your shitty 5 turn meta.
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>>140914129
its worse. at least secret paladin had counters
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>>140913778
>>140913910
>>140914129
so which is it, the meta is cancer aggro or the meta is cancer cthun?

it cant be both
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Can someone help me explain this to my friend? They don't understand how any deck in the meta can have higher than a 50% win rate when one player wins a game, the other loses, and thus every deck should have about a 50% win rate on a statistical average.
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>>140914249
well if you have three decks in the meta, each of them has to have 33% winrate so that debunks it already
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>mfw a mirror of kalandra dropped
>mfw ill be able to afford a new graphics card by RMTing it

Life is great
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>>140914328
fuck off
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>>140914193
People will stop playing C'thun when they're tired of losing to Zoolock or Divineadin
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>>140914249
You're friend's a fucking idiot.
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>>140914328
Wrong general m8
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>>140914323
I think the main question is "How can a deck have higher than a 50% winrate?"
>>
>>140913025

Is this a joke? Most people are agreeing this is the best xpac so far, and bringing Standard one of the best additions. If you're not having fun now you may as well uninstall because this is like the Burning Crusade/Wrath of Hearthstone. After this it's all downhill.
>>
>>140914249
Some people loose more than they win, and others win more than they loose, and decks have an influence in who wins and looses.

Also tell your friends they're dumb enough that a trained surgeon will, confronted to their particular case of retardation, diagnose that shoving a metal bar through their brain can only be benefitial to their cognitive abilities.

And tell them to look up the words of that sentence they didn't understand in a dictionnary.
>>
>>140913025
As long as GvG is gone it's okay
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>>140914249
Change friends, it'll be easier desu senpai
>>140914328
noice, haven't played PoE in a while since i think perandus is about to end i'd wait mid next league to sell it to jew out more moolah
>>
>>140894564
kek
Underrated post.
>>
>>140914481
>Also tell your friends they're dumb enough that a trained surgeon will, confronted to their particular case of retardation, diagnose that shoving a metal bar through their brain can only be benefitial to their cognitive abilities.

I laff'd.
>>
Could a summoning stone work in a Meme's End deck?
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This shouldn't be allowed in arena.
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So what are the decks

nzoth rogue
nzoth paladin
yogg mage
cthun druid
aggro shaman
totem shaman
miracle rogue
tempo mage

this seems to be 100% of ladder at all ranks and casual as well. have i missed one or two?
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>>140914737
cthun warrior
cthun priest
freeze mage
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>>140914737
>>140914824
how could you miss zoo
>>
every priest and paladin fucks control warrior now?
>>
>>140914737
HOW COULD YOU MISS THE ONE AND ONLY WALLET DECK EVER?
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>>140914861
ah yes. astonishingly i havent seen any of those today

>>140914824
those dont exist
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>went 1-3 in arena
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>>140915032
git gud, scrub
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>>140915032
>winning at all
get out normie
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>>140914978
Yes they do. I keep running into them
>>140914861
true
>>
>>140915032
>not 0-3 like me
gtfo scrub
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>>140915137
must be nice
i run into maybe half the list i gave
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>When you top deck lethal with an empty hand
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>>140914710
Sure, Kibler was playing a deck like that yesterday.
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What is up with these face retards in arena?

>1/1 into 2/1?
>nah, go face
>2/3 into 3/2 when you have a 3/3 up?
>nah, go face
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>>140915339
Mad skills, brah.
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>>140915528
It's literally the meta since GvG.
Don't bother trading just go face.
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JUST
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>>140915032
Same. I was offered Hunter, Priest, or Warrior.

The 3rd match I lost was against someone who had turn 7 Dr. Boom into turn 8 Kel-Thuzad that resummoned the boombots.
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>>140915140
>over 200 arenas
>not a single 0-3
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>>140915574
I dont understand. You are moving up in rank?
>>
>>140915597
Arena's a literal meme now.
Don't bother unless you're a streamer or premium player and have premium RNG
>>
>>140915634
Lastest match is on top
>>
>>140915597
Warrior is actually good now.
>>
>>140915708
what kind of warrior?
>>
>>140915032
My WoG arenas have been: 3-3, 12-1, 11-3, 1-3

I don't know where my ok runs have disappeared
>>
>>140915574
At this rate, you'll be rank 30 before tomorrow.
>>
>>140914879
Paladin, yeah.
Priest, no. You still can't entomb an empty board and having 30 hp at all times is worse than having infinite armor.
>>
>>140915806
I only did 2 runs so far, but I ended up 2-3 and 11-3. It's weird.
>>
>play kekstone
>opponent gets exact cards he needs from random effects that spawn random spells
>can literally do nothing to change the outcome of the game

n o i c e
>>
and you told me drunk crafting malymeme 2 days before standard was a mistake
jokes on u
>>
>>140914879
>paladin fucks control warrior now
They've fucked Warrior for a while
>>
>>140915776
The type that gets to draft the WoG commons and rares.

T1 N'Zoth's First Mate into T2 coin Bloodsail Cultist basically wins you the game.
>>
Justicar in N'Zoth pally y/n? Might help against nigger priests, but wouldn't know what to swap out for her.
>>
The worst part about miracle is how these faggots take 5 hours to do every turn.
>>
>>140916104
Dog is playing it right now.
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>>140906759
i was just replaying this shit lol
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>>140895694
My personal /winbyturnfour/ play involes Trogg into a coined spirit wolves :)
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>>140915675
Well, now I feel dumb since it was obvious.
>>
Yogg shouldn't be able to target himself desu
>>
What changes should I make to this deck?
inb4 delete it
>>
>try to add a guy to tell him that he missed lethal and should pay more attention to that stuff
>doesn't accept my friend request
Why are people so mean?
>>
>>140915835
>Hit 50% win rate overall
Okay I'm done for today before I really hit rank 30
>>
>>140916728
remove ice block, add yogg for fun
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>>140916874
If the playerbase wasn't overall cancerous more people would accept friend requests
>>
>>140916728
2nd tome might be too much, looks fun otherwise
>>
>Trump thought Miracle Rouge would be THE tier-1 deck to dominate them all when standard hit
>Thought Dr. Boom was almost on the same tier of unplayability as Wargolem
>unironically thinks Cursed Blade is great
>unironically thinks Force of Nature is still a card you'll see in some decks
>Has done 3 series of paid promotion videos in the past month
Why the fuck do people still pay attention to this idiot
>>
>>140893184
This in Warlock would be decent.
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>>140916728
Remove spellslingers. They gave me good cards against tempo mages so many times, it's not even funny.
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>>140916950
Miracle is pretty good desu senpai, fairly effectively beats zoo too.
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>>140915574
What program is this?
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>>140916950
Miracle is a tier-1 deck right now
>buh-buh it loses to face shaman
>muh blade flurry
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>>140916901

I have a seperate deck just for him ;)

>>140916946

The 2nd tome can be useful in long match ups, other times it can be clunky and you have too much value. I''ll give running 1 a try.

>>140916991

Yeah, they can fuck me over a lot. Just not sure what I'd replace them with.
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>Greetings.
>turn 1 mind vision
>get a c'thun card
>You have bested me.
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>>140917010
>>140917186
found the trump subscribers
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>Only need another Paladin win for Daily
>Had a good time getting engaged with past matches
>Get meme decks three times in a row with perfect curve while I have reverse curve
fuck you Brode I was actually having fun for a minute
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>>140917247
Even for (You) this is pretty weak.
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>>140916950
>>Has done 3 series of paid promotion videos in the past month
how is this relevant and how would you know this? fuck off trump sub
>>
>20% winrate with midrange
I fucking hate myself
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>>140898362
Got a list? Im trying to make something similar but its been trashed 60% of the time
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>>140917332
>how would you know this
Maybe because he literally puts [Paid Promotion] in the titles
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>>140894598
Still better than Cataclysm.
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I think i'm playing midrange wrong
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>>140917485
No, you're not. Midrange hunter just doesn't exist
>>
>trying to have fun with my new yogg meme deck in casual
>matched up against the same zoo braindead faggot who missplays but still wins because his deck is broken
>don't even get close to turn 10

epic
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>>140917532
Then I guess I am playing facehunter wrong
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>>140917485
It's dead.

No webspinner, no mad scientist, no creeper, eaglehorn bow much worse mad scientist, no shredder, no loatheb, no boom
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>7 control warriors in a row

what the fuck.. Did all the babys on EU suddenly wake up?

And they're all playing double brawl too it's DISGUSTING
>>
>play cthun mage during the day
>do pretty well no real problems
>nighttime
>opponents have perfect curve for 4 games straight, keep drawing big minions regardless of mulligan
What the fuck.
>>
>>140917776
well met
>>
fug it's that 1/100 game again
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>>140917897
heh, greetings
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>>140918087
>6 6 6
BEGONE SATAN
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>>140918117
wait what the fuck I swear I typed "stay mad" how did I write well met
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>>140911741
i tried your list man, after 10 games i didn't get to play yogg once
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>>140918162
stay mad
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>It's another spawn 4 patrons and draw 5 cards turn
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Is crafting Leeroy a good idea?

He seems like he's always relevant in at least one combo deck.
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>>140917897
man the fuck is wrong with you

this is my safe space
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>it's another trogg > golem -> coin feral spirit game
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>>140918290
It was a reflex i'm really fucking sorry
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Even after WOTOG she is still the best waifu
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>>140917601
Hunter just sucks right now.
>>
>>140918291

>not removing the trogg turn one

Greetings, friend.
>>
>>140918330
Do you think she has a cloaca?
>>
>been pretty unlucky with cards, had to craft most of the stuff i needed for my cthun priest deck
>been having fun but gold gain felt like a huge grind, opening a pack every 100 gold
>open a deck, see this
>have no dragon cards
>if i'd like to play a dragon deck i'd have to buy the adventures
>i just crafted a legendary for my cthun deck
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKKKK
>>
what are some good hunter decks right now, I need to complete quests

is aggro still viable or is midrange hunter much better
>>
what decks beat control/fatigue warrior?
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>>140917308
>>
>>140918610
midrange beast
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>it's time to play somalian warrior
>>
I'd pay money for a Rafaam alt hero, just so I bm with "RAFAAM, THE SUPREEEEEEEEME ARCHAEOLOGIST".
>>
>>140918613
Zoolock as always
>>
>>140918613
N'zoth controladin
>>
>YoggSaron mage
this is genuinely the greatest fun I've ever had in hearthstone
>>
I need to play warlock for my quest and don't really feel like wasting dust on gormok and sea giants. Are there any viable replacements?
>>
>>140918627
>playing C'thun priest
>>
>>140918692
>No Rafaam priest alt hero to bm "I like your deck...I think I will TAKE IT!" when I entomb something
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>tfw you can disenchant legendaries from adventures
FREE DUSTS
YUSSSSSS
>>
>>140918874
>free
>>
Can someone playing on EU drop their ID plz? Gotta tick off a spectate quest
>>
>>140918874
to get what?

even worse legos from current expac?
>>
>>140918845
>easy rank 5 anti meta
:^)
>>
>>140918929
sent ;)
>>
>>140918813
Yes
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>>140918939
this expansion's legendaries are among the most useful we've ever had in this game
>>
>>140919095
As long as you're a Rogue, and not a Warlock.

I haven't seen a single Shaman with Hallazeal.
>>
>>140915986
Drunk crafting is the best type of crafting.
Especially since drunk you knows not to craft garbage cards and instead focuses on the fun ones.
>>
>>140919168
Why would a shaman need to heal when the game is over before they take damage?
>>
>>140919218
>>140919218
>>140919218
this
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So, I'm on a real budget here since I started playing not too long ago, and am trying to build a cheap face shammy deck
Any advice?
>>
>>140919358
That's not a face deck
>>
>>140918804
post dick please, i just crafted him
>>
>>140919358
You'll need to save up for Doomhammers as a priority
>>
>shaman plays thing from below for 0 mana
>followed by evolve
>gets 2 velens
>lava burst to the face for 20 damage
>lightning bolt for another 12
such a fun and interactive game that one was :^))))))
>>
>>140919358
Also, which one?

>>140919403
I've been successfully using it as a face deck, with minor board control and a shitload of damage. Most games I don't drop below 30 health since the enemy spends so much resources dealing with board presence but dies regardless
>>
>not clearing the board with 3 doomsayers
>>
>>140919218
Exactly. Not really a "useful" legendary then.

It's pretty much just Rogue, Paladin and N'zoth who got outright useful shit. Hunter could work but other than that you have shit like Anomalus.
>>
>>140919503
whoops, wrong pic
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>>140919527
Pretty much. I don't think malkorok is total garbage, but then again he is an xd so randumb card.
>>
>>140919218
This.
Hallazeal is a great legendary in a class that doesn't need it at all right now. It's fun to make a meme deck with Yogg, Charged Hammer, and lots of offensive spells which heal you to full with Hallazeal, but it's still a meme deck.
>>
>>140919527
Malkorok is quite alright too, some decks like tempo warrior run it. And then there's neutral legendaries. There haven't been this many useable legendaries in any of the previous expansions
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>>140919358
Get LoE Second wing to unlock the shaman mana wyrm of balance
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>>140919665
He's incredibly powerful, and would see play if a control style shaman was actually viable. Other than that he's just fun to mess around with.
>>
>>140919625
hard one. tony is probably better, especially if you draft mechs
>>
>>140919625
Kel
>>
>>140919625
Tony is great if you manage to pick several spells. Kel'thuzad is a safe pick.
>>
>>140919625
Leviathan is a war golem that can fuck you over, and you're not guaranteed to be able to combo Tony with spells. Kel'Thuzad is at worst just a big drop, but might push a close game to a definite win if you have board presence.
>>
DO WHAT YOU WANT CUS A PIRATE IS FREE
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>>140919735
That's true.
Yet control shaman is still more viable than control hunter.
>>
>>140919735
Is there any reason a control shaman isn't viable? Hallazeal with justicar seems like it could be a good shell for it.
>>
>>140919625
Flame levi is shit. Both KT and Antonidas are game winners if you protect them. I'd go Antonidas- mage has good spells (and cheap) and mage isn't a class that gets a huge board all the time (like paladin/shaman).
>>
I have 1600 dust finally to craft my first legendary. I play Mage. I played casually for years but now I want to have a nice deck. Should I craft the Archmage or another legendary from the Neutrals?

What is a good mage legendary for a starter?
>>
>>140919996
Mostly the hero power. I supposse Justicar helps with that, Charged Hammer is also a thing, but all of them are late game plays.
One of the biggest obstacles is other shaman archetypes are simply much more viable.
>>
>>140920096
Antonidas
>>
>>140920096
antonidas will be your best bet
>>
New thread

>>140920153
>>140920153
>>140920153
>>
>>140920096
Depends on what deck do you want to play. If we are talking strictly just mage legendaries though, Tony is by far the best one.
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>>140920096
Tony is fun as fuck I see no reason to not run him in your mage decks
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