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The thread died literally as I hit post edition

>Whats New:
Balance patch:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20102776/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-notes-april-27-2016-4-27-2016

>where do I find you panda-loving faggots
/join /vg/

>Do you have a discord?
https://discord.gg/0u3cyKnzMnnU2wjN

>What hero should I buy?
Find the ones you enjoy playing and buy those. Don't buy cheap heroes just to get into Hero League, it's not worth rushing into.

>Links nobody visits anyway
Official Site: http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/
General News: http://www.heroesnexus.com/
Tips & Tricks: http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
Hero Rankings and Statistics: https://www.hotslogs.com/Default
Talent Calculator: http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator/
All of the hero voice lines: http://rpboyer15.github.io/sounds-of-the-storm/

Previous thread: rip
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what the hell happened to the previous thread?
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>>140750114

first for rexxar is actually fun when you rebind misha's leash to a more natural key
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Where the FUCK is Maiev????
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Anyone buy anything in the last week?
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5th for Where's Broxigar?
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>tfw playing less every week
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Same deal op, i was about to post and it died, and it was on page 9 when it happened.
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Damn, cocktail is completely dead huh?

So, how do you play Worgen Greymane? I literally never do that.
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>>140752104
I use to play a lot, but tracer I haven't been able to queue up anymore. It's like the tracer player gets to have fun, but it sucks for everyone else.
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Post your first hero page and others rate how much of a fag you are.

>>140752354
I'm on the same boat at least for soloq, i'm always up for playing with pals
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>>140752710
>having your gall higher than you cho

Disgusting
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>>140752710
>having your cho lower than you gall

I like your style
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>>140752710
i just realised i haven't played soloQ in at least 2 months
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>>140752710
The first row are all Males, do you hate females of something?
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>we want to make level 20 talents powerful
>lunara gets a cleanse at level 20 on a 45 second CD that can't even remove stuns from lunara
>tracer gets a full heal every 20 seconds since her recall is already a cleanse and long range teleport that also makes her invulnerable for 1 second
Why not just take the status effect removal off recall baseline and remove the heal talent at 20 and then put the status effect clear on that talent instead? She can still cleanse herself twice before lunara can cleanse once with her "powerful" level 20 talent.
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Anyone else thinking of abandoning HOTS for Overwatch?

I never really liked the MOBA isometric view, I have been wishing for a really good MOBA style FPS for a really long time and Smite failed to deliver.

Also, it just feels like HOTS is a cash cow for Blizzshit, they don't REALLY care about it.
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>>140753010
>>140753268
I only play cho'gall with a friend that has a warrior boner (straight outta wow) but has no idea about positioning and enjoys over extending.
It's pretty bad.

>>140753510
I love wimman famalam pic related

>>140753547
I picked up lunara recently and that thing dosen't feel like a 20 talent at all, maybe 16.
Sucks because that was one of the dryad core uses in w3, i like that she has a improved spell shield referencing the magic immunity.
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>>140754086
Battleborne is more of an FPS moba, you might want to look into that.
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>>140750494
It was so ded it actually died
The game is next
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Okay, Worgen Greymane is fucking fun as all hell, I just end up feeding a lot more and I always think the cocktail's range is longer than it really is.

I do love the aim at minions in front of squishies minigame still.
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get BUMPED
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get shitted
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The icon update killed the game. Everyone loved the old classic icons because they were tied t abilities they had been familiar with for years. These new ones killed the spirit of the game as the summation of Blizzard's franchises by cutting that link.
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>>140758243
What they were thinking with uther holy shit, even the extra abilities you gain are all FUCKING YELLOW
PURE YELLOW AND OTHER COLORS THAT DON'T REMARK
IT'S LIKE SOMEONE PUKED ON THE ACTION BAR
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Heroes who sync well.
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>>140758665
>>140758243
I actually like a lot of the stylized icons. Murky's and Rexxar's are my favorites.
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>>140758856
get fucked in the ass
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Well, I bought Zag. Tips? She's the only good specialist I own, so I might not get as frustrated when I have that quest (Sgt. Hammer, Murky, TLV [Okay, they are good, but not when I play them], Gazlowe, Abathur).

Also, should I just buy Desert Queen right now or ease myself into it?
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>>140758856
Tyrande + Diablo/Xul/ETC/KT/Mura/Thrall/Zag
god i miss pre-nerf Tyrande
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>>140758856
Artanis and Tassadar, it's even themed
>Tass shields don't fuck up artanis own surges of shielding
>Just enough life leech that also applies to your W
Also he can spec into give him movspeed, but with the baseline ZC that may not be a must now, also beam + wall

>diablo - dehaka/anub
probably tyroneda goes better but i pop a boner when i get a good diablo and i'm playing those two, really weird if our team dosen't kill whatever we were groping, impaling and or licking

>>140759094
Some are great, i only really complain about uther (and anub'araks Q since they look like a bunch of dragon dildos, and locust is pretty meh). ETC was needed since he had the same as death coil, flamestrike an dwarf toss
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How long until we die again?
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>>140759527
>since they look like a bunch of dragon dildos
Kinky
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>Azmo on team
>playing Jaina so I go lane with him to farm
>he took Seige
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>playing late at night
>first game, a silenced player picked murky and is walking into towers
>no one said anything to him, beats me why he does it
>2nd game, a silenced player had last pick and got us Nova instead of the support we needed
>he spams ping all game
ok, that's enough HOTS for today
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>>140761106
and?
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>>140761171
>Pick Greymane into a Li ming
>Our last pick is Silenced but picks Khara when we needed a healer
>Keeps AFKing in lane, ignoring every objective and gets ganked repeatedly
>Get added after the game
>"I was feeding intentionally because you counterpicked yourself"
Why the fuck do i even play this shit anymore?
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>>140761407
We won because Jaina stronk.
But I wasted my time getting mobs weak for him to nuke for no benefit.
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>>140761574
this is not LoL
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>>140758856
Tyrande combos well with like everyone
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>>140762287
Except Illidan.
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>>140762413
Poor illidan
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The key to countering tracer is to not play the game
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>mfw flamestrike KT
it's only a matter of time till it becomes the go to build
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>>140763420
isn't it already?
i never play anything else unless i'm on battlefields of eternity and we lack siege damage on the objective, so I go for the AA build
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>>140762413
KEKED AGAIN
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>Haven't played in a few months.
>Li-Mangy Whore is still a sopping cuntrag.
>Tracer is completely obsolete by her existing despite coming out later.

What the fuck, Shillzard.
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>Play Rexxar.
>Have fun.
>Win games.

I don't understand.
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>>140752710
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>>140752710

If only Li-Minge didn't exist.
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>Azmodan dunking all over Cloud 9
>Best NA team
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>>140758856
Cho and Gall
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>>140752710
Yup.

>>140766603
Wow, genuine waifu fag.
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>>140765742
>Tracer is completely obsolete by her existing despite coming out later.
???
Tracer absolutely shits on Lee ming. Any half decent tracer will dodge all her skillshots. and even the shitty ones dodge her skillshots on accident more often then not.
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>>140752710
Rate my memes
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>>140767568
I want to hate you for those 10 tracer & lemming with a <3 but you're an honorably viking
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>>140752710
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Where the FUCK is Superman???
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>>140765742
Obviously a troll. Tracer completely counters li-ming, tracer is skillshot immune.
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>>140767367
>fail to dodge skill shot
>lol recall
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>>140753547
>yfw instead of nerfing tracer, they buff every other hero, and reduce the death timer
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>>140752710
I need to play more azmo
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>>140752710

Nothing but good tastes here.
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>>140767979
>Muradin at 10
>Not purchased
10/10.

>>140767708
I love high mobility Ranged guys.
I fucking love tracer because of her mobility, But because she's so OP, everyone bans her and i can't blame them.
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>>140769523
I see no point in buying him, literally free all the time also i played him a lot when he was the most broken warrior in the game.
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>first ban: lunara
>2nd ban: gazlowe
>it's a silenced player
>he intentionally dies
remind me why I play this game again
no one ever gets banned for this shit
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>>140771386
>not playing exclusively as a 5 man stack in QM
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>>140752710
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I'm just getting fucking robbed of wins at rank 13. Fucking retarded bans every time.
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Is this common?
How proud should I be of it?
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>>140759274
I love zagara but xul shits on them all
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>>140773481
what am I looking for?
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>>140773481

>he's under 3k qm mmr
>he takes qm seriously
>he never makes meme teams, picks shitty ults, or take ridiculous risks
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>>140774239
But I always pick shit ults

My Morales losses are due primarily to the dropship
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>>140773580
Ah, Xul took over Zag's spot?

I really would think all the vision the creep gives would keep her numba 1.
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I hear that the Gravekeepr cries all the nights because he doesn't have a personal map NEVERMORE, isn't that just the saddest thing you've ever heard?
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>>140759274

>desert queen

wait for it to go on sale

>tips

unlike most heroes zagara is pretty strong throughout most of the game. short of creep (which you need to learn how to place, destroying it is entry level and the mobility/healing is too good to just throw away) you dont get any particularly good mobility until 20

you are a great laner and can bully nearly anyone out with just W, and can lane clear and siege almost immediately. make sure your Q splash is hitting as many creeps as possible

you can solo siege mercs early and easily.

learn talents and when to use them. There are 3 viable picks at level 7

>>140774943

xul is very very strong but zag is still a fucking monstergirl
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>>140774674

>he doesn't know the thrill of killing people with lasers as falstad

you don't know shit about the qm life
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In your experience, what is the average intelligence of people playing QM compared to vs. AI?
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>>140758856
Tychus and Morales.

Azmodan and Johanna.

Malfurion and Gazlowe.

Abathur and Murky.
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>This is my HL team
Just pencil me in for the lost fampai
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>>140776148
that's a really fucking good team tho

assuming you assholes take the right ults anyways
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>>140776148
you should win even without the crazy combo potential
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>tracer is horribly out of position
>about to get stunned by enemy muradin and speared by sonya
>cleanse
>she fucks off before anything connects
i never know when to cleanse that bitch, she's always hopping around
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So, BW is good right now, just hard to play?

I want more supports and the idea of BW is really appealing, but last time I tried to play as her (ages ago), I sucked balls.
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>caster keeps saying "Miuradin"
Mur. It's "mur". Muuuuuuuurrrrrr
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>>140776878
nah she's still shitty
only good with a good team comp that knows not to dive without knowing they will fuck shit up for sure, and that avoids as much unnecessary damage as possible

so basically, not in QM/HL

she's great at destroying divers with emerald wind though, always a great pick versus melee heavy teams. they get damaged AND stunned from it, heroes like artanis, arthas and butcher get absolutely destroyed
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>>140776750
I just leave Tracers on my team alone. I don't have time to try and follow your position while I could be helping heroes that move like normal people. Decent tracers aren't getting CCd anyway.
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Other than Illidan and Butcher, who else is a good hero to partner Abathur with?
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I wish I could murder these fucking degenerate Abathur pickers in ranked who do absolutely fucking nothing, pick ultimate evolution, and say "it's only a game bro" as they completely fuck me and my rank.

I want to fucking slit these little cunts throats, so sick of these fucking retards.
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>>140777597
>muh rank
Its only a game bro.
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>>140777451
artanis
anything else, just go for the usual mine / push build
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WHERE ARE THE TROLLS

THERE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE TROLLS
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>>140778789
What is Dehaka and the butcher?
and sometimes Illidan...
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Maybe Blizzard should get around to releasing that futuistic map that was teased with Darth Leoric.

And get around to releasing that cool chess-themed map from the concept.
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Lunara is so cute, I just want to hold her little hand
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>be Li Li
>really, really need cleanse
>conjurer's pursuit and decreased cost on Q
>kung fu panda
>constant healing
>C O N S T A N T
>infinite mana
>we went from getting wrecked every teamfight to no one dying
feels good man
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>>140778789

Rexxar throws axes. Zeebo does vodoo. They've been outsourced.
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>mmr has fallen 300 pts since 4/26
Fuck you Tracer.
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>>140776878
she can get a little crazy but it's more rewarding than hard. it's not like illidan where a beginner would get blown up or want to go do camps all game.
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>>140777205
Damn. Oh well. Appreciate it.
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Honestly for awhile it seemed like this game was growing, but now its just dying. How can Blizzard save this game?
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Looking at this thread, I realized people actually use the little hearts on the hero collection page.
But why? Aren't the ones at the top of the list probably your favorites anyways? I am confused.
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>>140782331
Bikini skins.
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ARAM has legit made me play a lot a lot more HOTS. I know it is a retarded game mode, but I play QM for all my quests and then I can play a low pressure, silly game mode without being bored to tears like vs. AI.
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>your etc goes stagedive
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>>140782331
the super secret conference in LA that pros/streamers are at is discussing the Heroes 2.0 "relaunch" that brings season 1, two more maps, and some other stuff. that's what they're banking on.

you heard it here first

>>140783717
>play aram
>people tryhard and get salty when they lose
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>Have to play Badheart Bay.
>It's another 2 Li-Ming game.
>Ours sucks, theirs wrecks.

Did I, like, not leave for two months, or what?
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>>140779791
>conjurer's pursuit
>decreased mana cost on Q
Pick one as they contradict each other. You miss out on The Good Stuff which is always fantastic.
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>>140785415
>kael'thas OP
>garden of terror sucks
>leave game for a year
>come back
>kael'thas OP
>garden of terror sucks
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>>140785601
They fixed Garden of Terror.
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>>140785837
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Think I'm done, I've tried to play a bunch this week but it's just so unenjoyable to play against a tracer every game, even when you manage to get a kill on a shitty tracer it doesn't even feel good because you know they fucked up instead of you playing well. Hots games have just not been fun at all
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DLAKE FUCKING SUCKS!
HOW CAN ANYONE WIN WITH THIS USELESS KNIFE EAR.
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Abathur is fun!
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the last thread wouldn't have died if they added Kilrogg instead of Tracer
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>>140785601
>garden of terror
Why does this map exist?
Why do people take the plant and dick around with it instead of push?
Why does the enemy team always have a bagillion more seed than mine?
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>>140789056
Because you suck dick at night.
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post CUTE now
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Does /hotsg/ like Usagis?
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Does anyone remember someone named streamjexia that did hots? I can't find her channel. New branding? What's her name?
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>>140789680
Well that is something I didn't expect.
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Reminder about the hero leaks.
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>>140791384
No gul dan? That sucks.
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>>140791384
>Mankrik's wife
>raid
Aggamegan confirmed
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>>140789680
No, but i like Usagi
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>>140789709
Why is the Overmind here?
Ans why is Tass nervious?
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>Memefish take March of memes
>Morales take Medibus
>Gazlowe take Robogoblin
>Kerrigan takes Ultralisk
>Abathus take Monstrosity
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Real talk /hotsg/ how do you fix this game?
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>>140758243
Some are good but most of them are shit. They look very generic shitty flash game and completely out of the art style of the rest of the game.
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>>140795697
add Kilrogg
or Terokk
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>>140795697

They honestly seem to be on a pretty solid track recently. They got bans in and they're doing a lot more balance patches.
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if they made all the heroes free would people play it
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>>140785837
When you say fixed, do you mean make worse?
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>>140795697
Fix the shitty maps like terror

add some interesting heroes that aren't tracer
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mekginerer theremaPlug ,,

Check out him , erhe is my of concept
he il lbe ossossin , Assassin-bruiser ? brusier ??

q shoot steam in front of himself.. hehe,, for 5 seconds and dmg increases every sec

w summon a boombot to target location he marches n explodes at first enemy for a lot of dmg! 3 charges

e fak!! robot deal dmg like crazy with his arms kinda like march of blc king, but u can change direction...less targets more dmg for 3 seconds

r idk something with radiation
r2 idk

D trai t heheh >; 0 you have activate my trap card.. in a radius More enemys = Abilitis recharge fukin FASTER!
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>>140796973
this post killed the thread wtf
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>>140797760
not having Kilrogg killed the thread
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>>140797920
Kroliyig Deadyeye, the concept of miny , check out him. Kilrogg Deadeye (scary assassin)

D wen takes fatal dmg becoms unstoppable for 1 cc, AA dmg increased after 4 secs is put into stasis and deals frontal aoe dmg after 1 sec.. if kilrogg last hits an enemy hero he is heal for 5% hp and dosnt die... hehe Cd like johanna lvl 20 shield

Q leap like kerrigan.. scary! but increase 1st AA dmg

W poison skillshot.. slow and dot dmg.. auto attacks against the target release more poisons flying for nearby enemys

E passive fect : upon leaving a bush kilroggs ability dmg is greatly increased until his first auto attack
activate for 20% movespeed 5 secs

R1 give vision 2 nearest enemys that arent on the minimap, increaseQ range by 3 times and give big move speed !


There an kilrogg
R2 idk xDxd
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>>140791384
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>Post YFW your enemy picks your waifu and you're forced to kill her.
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>>140754086
Actually you can queue for QM with several heroes if you hold down control while selecting/clicking
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>>140798336
YOU ARE NOT THE ONE I SAW
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>>140798598
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>>140798674
Цyдд aфл г! ишecp
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Ragnaros is boring who wants him just a big fireman, fuck fir we already have kelstas
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>>140785574
how do they contradict each other?

the good stuff is over rated as fuck, the HoT barely does anything
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>>140786817
>he doesn't main Pandor
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>carry some subhuman scum that barely did anything other than die during a game
>he tries to add you after the game
sure let's be friends
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>>140799742
pandor
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>>140752710
i wish jaina was still playable
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>artanis is suddenly an absolutely amazing solo tank
this hurts, man
if you don't have a comp that can stunlock or apply vulnerability you're in for a bad time
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>>140795697
fucking remove tracker and her king crimson bullshit
how do you make a hero that doesnt need extra mobility because she can do their job while moving and then give her 6 teleports? and a self cleanse which can be talented into healing you?

add mortal strike

buff jaina to be on par with kealthas

retire garden of memes
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>>140803217
dude you just a salty loser, tracer is so much fun, you just need to learn how to play against her :^)

blizz is killing off this game really rapidly, they will be using hots servers to host overwatch games once its out.
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Here's my idea on how to balance Tracer:
>Her attacking while moving becomes a baseline active skill that only works for her current ammo clip
>2 charges, 12s CD

skill ceiling increased, and the nerf she deserves
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>Jaina is very hard to play right now
>her ring of bronze makes or breaks teamfights
>every shitter ever picks her
>check their profile after the game
>under level 9 as Jaina
EVERY FUCKING TIME
holy shit why do so many people pick Jaina now? she is the worst she has been in a long, long time, there is zero reason to pick her if you can't play her properly
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>lets make a moba in 2015-16
>except we gonna learn nothing from other mobas mistakes and redo them all one by one
>we also gonna shit on all core gameplay basics
>stutterstepping to maximise dps is so oldgen - have this nice hero who shoots while walking
>being caught out of position is so boring - have a free get ouf of bone prison card
>drafting? go away grampa, let our genius matchmaking algoritm pick a team for you that doesnt make any sense and hope the enemy gets the same! HL is ded
>w-why is no one playing our awesome moba?
>lets call it a hero brawler instead!
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Ok tought choice. Buy xul now and have 5k left. leaving me enough time to save up 5k to buy tracer in two weeks when she goes 10k, or buy tracer now while she is op and fun, but have to save up extra 5k to buy xul later
wat do?
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>>140804717
it's ok, overwatch is coming out soon
i think everyone who likes MOBAs and are even remotely interested in FPSs will switch over to it

it has all the good parts of MOBAs and all the good parts of FPSs

it has the nice graphics and the stable and well optimized clients from blizzard

unfortunately, it's doomed to eventually fail because it's also BALANCED by blizzard
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>>140805524
don't be a fucking retard, buy xul and save up for tracer
>>140805615
i'm expecting Overwatch to be the new and fresh Team Fortress 2, the FPS that everyone loves and plays

at least, until blizzshit fucks it up with constantly releasing OP heroes and then nerfing them, just like they do in HOTS
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>>140805615
Why would me, the MOBA MLG be interested in overwatch? Has it any mobs pushing to destroy towers? It does not.
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where can i view the CD on tassadar's lvl 13 E?
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>>140805524
buy xul and then new hero. dont buy tracer, pointless. will be nerfed soon and u cant play her in hl right now anyway
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>>140784930
you got any ETA on season 1?
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how to deal with feeders in HL? i have an urge to throw every game where i have a teammate that dies 2 times in 4 minutes. just threw with some faggot li-ming 5 deaths on 10th minute. hope that faggot and his family get raped by mudslimes to death
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>>140796350
How so? The terror can't just run back and forth planting pots.
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>>140804531
She's cute and fun, what do you want from me?

I only have like, three heroes at 9.
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>>140798512
>"Cool down hothead."
Meme magic does it again.
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>>140808169

>waste the terror throwing down pots that don't do anything anymore

its retards like you that would clear all the forts with the plant and then keeps etc rather than just pushing one lane with it and winning the game by the second plant
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>>140809738
People's problem with Garden was that it took too long.

But yeah, when they made pots disable core, they fixed the biggest issue with Terror.

Point is, there's nothing wrong with Terror now. It is like a Dragon Knight with a polymorph.
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>>140782387
The purpose of the hearts is so they appear on the top of your list in hero league, i use it to mark my real favorites, i have zeratu sitting at 11 but i don't enjoy him as much as dehaka, and i have him on 7
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>there are people who think tracer is fine
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>>140811934
>tracer isn't fine
just blind her
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>>140812098
this.
just walk away.
just ignore her.
just stun her.
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>>140812371
just burst her
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>It's a Kharazim plays like he's Illidan episode
>Ends game with more deaths than everyone else combined x2
>Lowest in all stats
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>hero is broken
>"just make sure he cant do anything, see? balanced!"
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>>140812578
well, yes
if you think a hero can do broken shit, just stop him from doing broken said broken shit
easy peasy
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that's it lads i'm done, tis was a good ride, see you in /owg/ or /d2g/
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>>140798336
Пpивeт я бывший coтpyдник Blizzard Entertainment и этo хopoший preview нoвoгo гepoя Килpoгг Mepтвйи Глaз.)))))))
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>>140812459
>blames the rest of the team for the loss
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>>140812578
>Counter play is toxic
By this logic The Butcher is broken because he has the highest stats in the game and can heal himself to full whenever he wants.
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>>140814638
thats a pretty shitty analogy
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>>140805615
when you can change characters so easily balance doesn't mean much unless you can't help yourself from raging over tracer mains or whatever.

>>140807860
realize they are probably just as mad at you doing nothing in a lane 2v1 while they got ran over.

>>140814638
what's toxic is that people think all counterplay is just as cheap and easy.
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>>140814823

no, its a good one

did you know zeratul is broken too? He can blink away, his burst is insane,his ult can lock down an entire TEAM, and whats worse is he stealths!

Is tracer perfectly balanced? No, shes not 10k yet and blizz wants their shekels. But she's hardly the most broken a hero has been at release, much less the most broken hero in the game

that honor belongs to git gud
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>>140815304
the zeratul analogy is also pretty shit

you can try again or you can just stop replying, i'd prefer the latter
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>>140815304
I'm sure you're one of those people who wins with tracer and thinks you're good. Of course she is the most broken hero in the game currently.
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>>140815304
wow, what a complete moron
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>tfw 600s queues in SEA prime time
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>>140786817
pssst nothing personel kid
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>>140818062
>SEA
literally where?
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We are so dead, when will we finally be free from this hell?
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>>140819240
When tracer is removed
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>Uther, Stitches and Valla alive, at full HP, entire enemy team dead for 15-20s, pushing core
>Valla enters Core attack range
>Stitches was 1 second behind
>She fucking tanks it
>She eats all of my healing
>She takes the fucking Divine Shield
>She just stands there autoattacking
>She takes the Storm Shield
>She dies like the stupid piece of shit she is
>Enemy core still at 45%
>Starts pinging the healer
we won in the end, but fuck that bitch, we had to play 7 minutes more and were actually in danger of losing
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>>140807185
>cant play her in hl
of course you can, i see her in hl all the time
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Blizz dev here, what would be the best way to implement a hero which gets HEALED by taking damage from enemy players?
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Free-to-Play Hero Rotation: May 3 - 10, 2016 (RIP HOTS it's overwatch week)
Li Li
ETC
Jaina
Butcher
Gazlowe
Lt. Morales
Diablo (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Illidan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Greymane (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Dehaka (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)
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>>140819995
Seems like a decent rotation desu senpai.
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>>140819240
We will be less dead when they start hinting at who comes after Tracer.
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>>140819980
Dehaka already does that
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>>140819995
Nice, I can try some Dehaka games.
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>>140812859
Spasibo thexnsn you!
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>pushing lanes alone
>even as a fucking specialist

WHY DO PEOPLE FUCKING DO THIS WHY ITS SO FUCKING UNSAFE
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>win 3 games
>oh boy, shit's coming
>one game, a tracer solo a lane all game and joins teamfight only when everyone's dead to give the enemy team some more exp
>abathur refuses to get supp or spike build and goes FULL mines
>mfw
>well, it cant be worse than this
>another game
>falstad dives into enemy team alone
>no one waits for the team every team and they all go 1vs1
>they spend the time taking camps while the enemy is grouping and smashing towres because no one defends lanes
>mfw
Why do I even bother playing anymore?
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>>140819980
Kilrogg
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>>140821567
>thinking the mine talents are bad
>thinking the carapace talents are good for anything other than split pushing
yeah i'm sure you had nothing to do with losing, you're so knowledgeable of the game!
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>>140821729
Is Kilrogg the new Superman?
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>>140819980
an Ooze? Some Old God shit?
>be a giant ooze
>one ability reflects damage to melee attackers
>one heroic is incorporating a hero into you (kind of like Gorge) - the hero is attackable, silenced. you are slowed for the duration. any damage allies do the enemy inside you, they also do to you
>another ability reduces damage taken by 25% and heals you for the amount prevented
can't be too bad of a hero, right?
might also have a skill that lets you catapult yourself, like Zac in LoL or w/e his name is. Hold down to charge, AoE ministun at destination
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>i almost feel bad for them
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>>140821375
i have a theory that it's just a habit carried over from lol/dota when the player either gets mad at his team or is just a terrible player who wants to be carried

i dont understand it at all. you will never get more xp than the team pushing your towers in
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>be a giant tentacle monster hero
>you ult only works on enemy female heroes
three guesses what the ult does
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>>140822058
he's the hero we need
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>>140821826
Carapace can help if you don't have a support.
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>>140822807
Makes them a cup of tea.

Slaps them.

Uses the end of its tentacle as a moustache when placed under the nose, this grants stealth for 4 seconds.
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>>140822930
But not the one we deserve right now
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>Team low health back off from a failed teamfight
>Tracer teleports two screens away into the enemy team
>Gets blown up
>Starts pinging me says bad support
What the hell did you want me to do you dumb cunt?
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>>140822930
You think he's mad that Cho'gall is throwing his eye all over the place?
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Anyone know about this top secret Blizzard meeting everyone's going to? inb4 it's fucking nothing.
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>>140823571
It's going to be nothing, maybe talk about ways to promote their esports.
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>>140823539
nah, magic is a better eye anyway. You can't predict your own death with normal eyes
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>>140823662
Speaking of esports promotions, when are we supposed to watch twitch to get the 2016 Diablo portrait?
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>tfw Blizzard will never surprise us by releasing 2+ heroes in the same day
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>>140823463
>not having all pings muted by default
you deserve it all
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>>140824470
Players wouldn't understand a welcome screen with 2 heroes
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>>140824470
>He wasn't here for Cho and Gall's release
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>>140824571
Rekt
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>>140823539
What is the backstory behind the eye? I only know i used it as warlock when i played wow
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>>140824571
fuck me i totally forgot about chogie, such is life when no one plays >you
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Is Tracer getting nerfed tomorrow?
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>>140824867
Maybe next week, when her price drops
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>>140824709
he pulled out his eye in a ritual to see a vision of his death, then someone in the Shadow Council (porbably Cho'gall because they were sort of rivals) named the spell after it for a laugh
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>>140824867
>>140824953
What do you want about her to get nerfed? I've only played around 20 games against her, but I haven't had any trouble fighting her, unlike Li Ming.
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>>140825018
And what did he see? Getting fragged by tracer?
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>>140825067
Recall should be a channeled spell. That's it
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>>140825090
MU Kilrogg died in a duel with Danath Trollbane, AU Kilrogg got killed by 10-30 people who wiped on him 5 times because retarded DPS didn't kill adds
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>>140824709
>>140825090
https://youtu.be/fRlokbOelfg?t=70
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>>140825067
wot m8
leming tosses out the orb, easily dodge, then the missiles, easily dodged and then she gets vaporized
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>>140825393
>10-30 people who wiped on him 5 times because retarded DPS didn't kill adds
Only mythic difficulty is canon, and in some cases each wipe is a different party of adventures
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>>140825430
he's the reason stats need to be broken down more. i see li ming with high damage and i just wonder who the hell just stood there the whole game.
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>>140825090
That would still be a passable death.
Imagine if he saw Murky beating him to death with a fish or a little Panda throwing sand in his eye.
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>>140825430
Tell that to my teammates who seem to have an attraction to giant purple balls
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>>140825018
Oh Cho'gall
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>>140825559
I was wondering something like that yesterday

A sylvanas on my team was bragging about how she had way more siege damage than everyone else, but we didn't even destroy the first line of towers.

What else adds to siege damage?
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>li ming comes out
>hotsg claims its impossible to dodge her skillshots
>today
>hotsg agrees li ming sucks because its so easy to dodge her skillshots
????????????????????
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>>140825785
minion waves bronzie
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>>140825785
Minion wave damage, it used to count objectives and mercs too, good thing they changed it
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>tfw none cares about broxigar
WHY EVEN LIVE?
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>>140825857
4chan sucks at vidya senpai.
On the other hand we're much cuter than people who know how to play.
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>>140826020
shut the fuck up Richard Knaak
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>>140825419
why is kharazim narrating a wow video
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Like in what situation would i ever wanted to take that other Xul ult that has those dumb mages that do no damage and can be easily killed?
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>tracer 65% win rate in master QM
>not OP
Choose one
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>>140826407
Well I fucked that up
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>>140826407
She is going to get tentacle raped so hard by the nerfsquid two weeks from now when they make her 10k gold and thus won't need to sell her anymore
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>>140826407
>Hero that counters the other 5 most popular heroes has high winrate
woah
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>>140826407
>QM mattering at all
Oh wait, maybe if enough QM shitters complain about her she will get Nova'ed
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>>140826793
you know full well she is barely played in HL because bans

stop baiting / shitposting
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Why does qm matchmaking still suck so much. Youd think they'd have fixed it by now but its worse than its ever been
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>"omg how did we not cap that boss?"
>well obviously because we weren't standing within the circle
>"ur a dick, reported for trolling"
wew
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>>140824867
It would be on a Wednesday.

I hope they don't gutter her. I know you guys say she's fundamentally broken, but there has to be a way to save the concept.

Recall not healing would basically make me unable to play her, sadly. I am trash at her.
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>>140827313
>bought kael a week ago when he was level 5 barely
>been playing a minimum of 3 or 4 matches a day every day, mostly with kael since then
>my kael is now level 8, out of all those kael games i had a warrior on my team maybe once every 2 days
>when i didnt play kael and switched to sonya, a minimum of 2 warriors per team
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>>140827514
Would be nice if recall did instant teleport to base
That way she has to run all the way back to the fight
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>>140826213
Because generic eastern accent. The only way to not be called racist. I'm surprised neither Draenei nor Kharazim have brown-ish skin
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>told my team they are retards
>the 3 player party from my team ragequits
kek
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>>140827849
>Russian accents are anti-racist
????
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>>140827707
I've had solid comps, to be honest. I just wish people queued up as support more.

Also, fuck people duo-queing as two specialists or two assassins.
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>>140828204
It's not russian, it's like a mix of russian, arabic and something southern-asian.
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Can somebody explain to me how the fuck do I play Anub'Arak ?
He has no HP, he don't do damages, I tried the so called scarab build but I get fucked in the ass so hard.
It's because it's not how to play him or because of the current champ rotation that put him in front of too much "counter" ?
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>>140828826
lil bit of both, cc people and your team cleans up the mess, always goes well with double warrior
know when to coccon and use your E for escapes unless you're winning by a landslide, if you usually play with high ping get the 16 E upgrade
give a try to the AoE if you actually want to deal damage
Also get regen master over 25% beetle damage, if you're good at the minigame it's like 2,5-3 beetles constantly biting someones feet and more reliable
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>>140828826
Anub is shit. The people having success with him are bronzies or getting carried by their team
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why aren't there any lewd pictures of female champs in this thread?

pic related, obligatory

whatever happened to drawfriend anyway?
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>>140829473
I'm pretty new to the game (~60 game played so far), Anub'arak is my last purchase but I can't have a game where I don't get farmed with barely any resistance. But I'll try to mix up more the talents next time.
Other question, Tassadar can be played as a mage ? spamming shield is fun for a moment but I wanted to put in use his tempest but I can't scratch people with it.
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>>140830083
you can find his blog here, he draws overwatch shit too, and sometimes hots lewds
http://g1138.tumblr.com/
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>>140830165
He used to do more damage but it can still work, don't even try it as a solo support, if you don't have leeching plasma (4) + khala's embrace (7) you can't keep up with other supps
conjurer's pursuit is recommended since you have to make everyone a bubble-boy pre-fights, the 50% remaining shield stacks with the next you throw at em
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When are they removing battlefield of eternity from the map pool?
It's literal shit
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>>140830730
Do you want this game to become like the others with only one map?
Because every thread people complain about all the maps, no one seems to be happy with any map
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>tfw you LUCK out a win with the most retarded nublet team you ever seen
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How do i play xul in hl? He always gets banned or picked before i can
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>>140831046
I like every map desu senpai.
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JUST
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>>140826020
Don't lose faith!
If you believe hard enough he will be in the game one day senpai!
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>>140832336
That is funny and sad because that is exactly the last thing pedro Infante said to some people before he went into the plane that crashed and killed him

Yes, he crashed the plane with no survivors
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>>140831741
just do what i do and have all your favorite heroes be things you have to pick late to avoid counters

first pick 90% of the time ez
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>>140832336
jajajaja pobresito
nice welfare pc faggot
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Guess which side is winning
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For the past few days i've lost every single game where the enemy team has a tracer and our team doesn't.

This is suffering, you can instantly tell who will win.
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>>140830730
>Highest win rate by far was Haunted Mines
>It gets removed because of bronzies whining
>Highest win rate is now Battlefield of Eternity
>This post
>Mfw
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>>140833857
>>It gets removed because of bronzies whining
it got removed because Blizzard is garbage at balancing and the scaling changes would have broken it
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>>140830730
fuck off, it's my current fav map
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>>140832468
Just like pottery hermano
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>>140833430
focus morales
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>>140832587
nice bronze status cuck
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I wish i could use the bone prison on qt grills in real life so they couldn't run from me ;_;
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>>140834506
I wish Kilrogg was in the game
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Post yer map stats.

>tfw I get my worst map the most often, thanks blizzard
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>>140834601
>tfw no Kilrogg
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>>140834601
You think meme magic could get him into Hots?
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>tfw bronze
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>>140834710
>tfw can't reduce map pool to cursed hollow, dragon shire, shrines, and sky temple
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Bronzelord here to make you feel a little better in comparison.
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>>140832189
My only complaint about maps is that Eternal Shrine reuses too many assets from Battlefield and looks lazy as a result.

Sure, Garden of Terror looks the same as Dragon Knight, but not THAT closely.
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>>140834710
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>>140835521
So much this, why cant we have a regular non-ranked draft mode and map bans?

Fucking Blizzard.
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>>140835970
>non-ranked draft mode
Stop being autistic rank doesn't mean anything
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>>140836097
i don't personally care about rank, all i want is a draft mode. the problem with HL is, like you said, autism. if i could make everyone stop being autistic and salty over made-up numbers that don't mean anything i'd have no issues with HL
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>>140834710
Fuck me sideways, I suck.
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>>140834245
Go back to WoW Shitten
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>massive loss streak
Time to delete all replays
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>>140837263
I hope someone on the winning team uploads all the replays
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Will Mankrik find his wife in the Nexus?
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Can't wait for the update to hit, tracers recall is so fucking broken. Now she won't be able to recall from bone prison at least, but it still will be op
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>>140839220
What??
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>>140839283
I don't think he has a source, anon.
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So I'm relatively new to this game, but one thing I've noticed is that the team that does well early on in the game seems to lose most of the time.
What gives?
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>>140841534
All heroes are scaled to be either good at early or end game. if the team picks all early game heroes they will of course lose
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>>140841534
That's most likely due to the fact that you're still playing with new players. Bad players tend to throw games really easy. In more balanced games comebacks certainly are possible and common, but not "most of the time".
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>>140841534
Like someone said you're playing with new players
early game overextension is nothing when compared to the late game, 1 minute out of the fight and more chunks of EXP are given, it can fuck you up real bad
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How to fix tracer in a nutshell

Spatial Echo removed
Untouchable maxes out at 15% bonus damage
Pule Bomb gets a 20% damage reduction
Melee damage gets cut in half, right now it does as much damage as some ultimates and that's disgusting
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>>140841534
People get cocky and throw. They also don't know how to finish a game, so even when 4 of the enemy team is dead, we run away from the single Li-Ming to do camps.
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>>140842251
I literally have no idea what talents those are. I never take them. No wonder I thought she was balanced.

Melee does do fucktons of damage, but ehhhh. It is single target. It is also a basic ability that is a fucking melee attack, Jesus, I get they were mimicking Overwatch, but Christ, I remember when she was spoiled people thought HOTS must be terrible if that is what a basic ability is like.
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Lets bring Reghar, KT, Kerrigan, Thrall, Li ming and BW to the state they were when they were considered OP

If everyone is OP, no one is
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>>140842665
>If everyone is OP, no one is
Dota 2 in a nutshell
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Just got 10k again, these are the 10k heros I dont have yet

>memeslug
>xul
>rexxar
>leoric
>li ming
>chogall
>gaymane
>KT
>Zerotool
>Nova
>TLV

Suggestions? Looking for the most fun to play.
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>>140842790
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>>140842807
>Looking for the most fun to play.
TLV
Memeslug
Xul
Cho'gall (if you have somebody to play with)
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>tracer ult 1 shots a 40% HP falstad
what the fuck is this shit? a fucking pyroblast from Kael takes away 80% or some shit and it's laughably easy to counter, while tracer's is instant cast

B A L A N C E
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-150 :-----DDDD
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>>140843485
Who knew? 80 = 40.
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I'm still fairly new to this game, got arround 10 games played. But I have a question. Is there a map without gimmicks? I just want a regular game without collecting bones or capturing shrines.
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>DC at the start and shitty recconect makes me lose level 1 and 4 talent
>AI picks the worst possible ones and pretty much lose because of them

Why can't we just preset talents to prevent this shit from happening

If you're wondering it's Dehaka with ability dervish on 1 and stealth burrow on 4
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>>140843485
Falstad has the lowest health of any character that isn't built around either dying or not fighting. Just don't get hit
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>>140843926
No, every map has a unique objective you're supposed to fight over.
Which is pretty nice desu senpai.
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>>140843926
The objectives are there to force teamfights. If there were no objectives the game would be boring as fuck.
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>>140843882
this is the average tracer player
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>>140843926
The closest thing to it is Lost Cavern, a map designed solely for custom games and for ARAM (all random, all mid) in particular. It has one lane and no objective. It has a billion globe producers though, because the hall of storms doesn't heal you.
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Butchers trait should have that heal and attack speed talent by default. There is no way to play him without picking these talents everytime.
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>>140845023
I'll be honest, I gave up on playing Tracer after a day. She's not my thing.

I was just laughing at the comparison. Pyroblast, an ult that can be cast from a billion miles away and a sticky bomb that you have to be in melee range to use, one of which does literally twice as much damage as the other.

Plus, you can Ice Block the bomb the same exact way you Ice Block Blast.

I get your complaint, she's undeniably getting nerfed, but it was a stupid comparison.
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>>140842807
aba is fun and a top tier meme
xul is fun and good in the meta
KT is kinda fun and super op in the meta
zeratul is fun and strong but kinda hard to learn and master
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>never cared for Kilrogg Deadeye
>thought he was some dead Orc from WC2
>didn't really care for WoD but his lore video looked neat
>now all this Kilrogg posting is happening
>tfw I now also want Kilrogg Deadeye in the game
Where the F U C K is Kilrogg?
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TRACERNERFBOIS

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20097945
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>>140846284

> Health decreased from 1270 (+4% per level) to 1206 (+4% per level).
> Health Regeneration decreased from 5.25 (+4% per level) to approximately 5.02 (+4% per level) Health per second.
> Basic Attack damage reduced from 29 (+4% per level) to 27 (+4% per level).
> Focus Fire (Talent)
> Final shot damage bonus increased from 30% to 35% of the total magazine’s damage.
> Locked and Loaded (Talent)
> Damage bonus increased from 35% to 40%.
> Melee (W)
> Pulse Strike (Talent)
> Pulse Bomb charge bonus increased from 15% to 20%.
> Recall (E)
> Cooldown increased from 24 to 26 seconds.
> Slipstream (Talent)
> Cooldown reduction decreased from 4 to 2 seconds.
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i did it lads
i got the 3k

am I not a shitter yet
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>>140846284
Fuck, the comments are demanding more nerfs.
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>>140846686
You are, but not to me. My jealousy is uncontained.
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>>140846686
how many HL games did it take you?
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Good night /Hotsg/
Don't let the thread die while I'm sleeping.
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>>140846284
>2 seconds more to recall
Fuck that, should be like 15-20, and just get rid of slipstream.
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>>140821826
not taling about carapace, wich is trash. Mines only build was useless because we really needed help in teamfight. All he did was using ines in retarded places(not even in the bushes)and sit at the core.
He had the lowest hero damage, lowest fucking XP and average siege damage. How is that good? picking the most noob friendly build so you don't have to play and be basically no use for the whole party?
>>140822962
Nah, carapace heal is the worse. Carapace talents are completely useless.
>>140846590
>2 seconds more
>just 2 seconds
Its like they are not even trying.
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>>140846284
>tracer nerfs
>it's fucking nothing
why would they even bother with this?
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>>140842665
>Buffing Thrall and BW
I'd uninstall
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>>140847824
Because Tracer actually isn't that good you will see once the first tournament is played on this patch
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>>140847076
like 250
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>>140848074
Tournaments are basically a whole other game, if someone saws XxmlgfagolialordxX managing to keep the whole team alive as piano uther or tassadar and they want to try the same thing i qm/hl they will fail miserably since you can't coordinate perfectly with your teammates
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>>140822058
superman is old busted where kilrogg is the new hotness
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>>140848074
We will see, but as the other anon said, coordinated team play and solo queue are miles apart. She will still be insane in QM/HL regardless of her viability in competitive.
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>>140848494
Random groups coordinate just fine in master league, bronzie.
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>>140849369
Not really, not 100% at least. No matter the ranks people can be retarded even in just a single ocassion, and possibly fuck your shit up
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>>140846089
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE YOU COULD KILL ME?
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>>140844408
>>140844330
>objective on every map is made to give fucktons of pressure and the fastest way to get xp
>there are still people who split push the entire game
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>>140846284
>Still banned first every HL game
>Still can't play her in HL
I just wanna go fast already.
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>>140849920
Just play QM then, overpowered cancer characters will be banned a lot
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>>140849870
>what is cursed hollow
>what is towers of doom
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>your favourite thrall build is 7button + block
>it's so situational it will never be meta
why try ;_;
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>>140850141
Gets fucking boring playing slot machines and finding out wich team got the worse comp.

Can't play HL because everything feels so slow compared to Tracer.
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>>140850331
>meta
There's nothing wrong with any of those talents, unless you take block against 5 casters or blood for blood against 5 murkies
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>>140850467
Whoever has the better tracer wins in QM
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>>140850181
you still need to group when you need a curse or if you want to get 2 altars to to their 1 so i dont get it

blizz specifically didnt want people to do that
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>>140850141
>overpowered cancer characters will be banned a lot
Do you even play this game??
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>play Cho'Gall with my friend who was diamond in LoL
>he plays Cho while I reck shit as Gall
>keep sniping people around corners and reck people 2v3
>never ever fucking die
>win every game we play
>mfw
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>>140850928
>banning a 10% popularity hero
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>>140852415
>not banning overpowered cancer characters
Its like you want to lose.
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>>140850847
how much xp does a tower in ToD give you?
how much xp does 1/3 of a curse give you?
how is a xul pushing two lanes on spider map a bad thing?
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>>140846284
>nerf
>locked and loaded getting buffed
>nerf
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>>140852514
don't be a retard, they're easily countered
just pick nova and triple tap erik
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>>140852514
You ban to deny your opponent something.
If they're unlikely to pick up an "overpowered cancer character" there is no reason to ban them.
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>>140853516
I believe the argument is Tracer being banned often doesn't necessarily mean she is OP, the same way Vikings not being banned is not the same as them not being OP.
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>>140853462
>pick nova and triple tap
kek
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>>140852586
you can stall but eventually you will have to group up or at least draw stupid people to you

if theyre good at all on the spider map and youre alone all the time they will just jump you at the turn in spot
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>get lunara
>tagged as a "nimble and fastan"
>tracer has enough tools to chase me and kill me before i can outrun her
okay..
she's pretty fun but in 3/4 on my matches my gets assfucked even when i position myself super safe and i poke to oblivion, my damage dosen't seem that fantastic either
Does she even has a spot in HL? seems like something someone would pick to zone control/kite but other heroes can do it much better
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>>140802838
All he needed was a little buff. I love Arty. Full tank talents and he still does some comparable DPS.
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>>140854285
she's a great pick when the enemy team only has 1 healer, and that is uther or tyrande

they can't keep up with the dots on everyone
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>>140854285
tracer is op
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You guys don't know much about balance, do you?

Listen to this guy, he knows what's up. Of course, none of you will ever agree because you're too poor to afford Tracer. LOL !!!!!
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>>140819995
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>>140854658
Daren real identity http://vocaroo.com/i/s0UUza1ZxcRh
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>>140854285
lunara is fast but has zero mobility
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Only bronzies disagree
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>>140855138
I applaud your memes anon
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>>140855138
>Falstad not tier 1
absolutely pleb
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>>140855138
Where is Erik?
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>>140855687
Nova trip tapped him
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>>140855786
Olaf, you oaf, you needed to block that!
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>>140855138
>cho and gall in different tiers

wut
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>>140856327
>two different heroes in different tiers

problem?
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>>140855138
>Erik, Baelog and Olaf not in 3 sepperate tiers
Step the fuck up, anon.
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>>140794530
>not meming to contest points because the enemy has a grouped nova and a tracer who will fuck you if you try to octograb
>not wanting a reliable escape on your squishy baby medic because your team is all mages and noobs who you have to babysit
>not soloing every camp on the map and fighting well
>not playing kerrigan as better rexxar
>ok you win this one, it needs to obey queued orders even after it's dehatted
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>>140850928
Why would you ban something like 5 people play? Everyone can play tracer well because she is op with a low skill floor, not many people can do well with the vikings and they are far easier to deal with.
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>>140857289
>far easier to deal with
A complex series of rotations and counter soaking is harder than just blinding her
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>>140827707
This is literally my life, but with healing.
>Whenever I morales
>Uther, Malf, Tyr

>Whenever I LiLi
>Mora, Reh, Kha

Only time I was successful was the last one when I went pure healing and he went all dmg except heal on 1.
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>>140833430
>Not yours for playing the Memeslug
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>>140846284
These nerfs are too much! They killed my girl Tracer! :(
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>>140859471
If you think these will impact her you were a horrible tracer player anyway :(
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>>140855138
>tracer
>teir 3
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

like you cannot lose if she's on your team
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>overwatch access actually begins in like an hour
Based Blizzard.
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>>140846284
Not enough
>health nerfs dont matter because she's literally unhittable
>health regen doesnt matter for same reason
>AA nerf is literally fucking 2
>nerfs to a bunch of talents no one picks
She'll still be strong as hell
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>>140854285
Tracer is assfucking everyone right now
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>>140860879
That explains the SFM videos I've seen, but in those is most of the time Zarya or Widowmaker doing the assfucking
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>>140860663
>2
>x10
>20 base damage nerf
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>one person can ruin the game
>one person can't carry because le epic comeback mechanics :DD
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>our thrall and johanna try to dive into the enemy fort
>both teams are at full HP
>their gate is at full HP
>they just smash into it like retards and get obliterated by Kael and Jaina
>just before the objective
>lose
this was a 3k MMR game
somehow
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>>140860663
>health nerfs dont matter because she's literally unhittable
>health regen doesnt matter for same reason
just bullshit

>AA nerf is literally fucking 2
that's 6.8 % less aa damage

>nerfs to a bunch of talents no one picks
they nerfed one talent that has a popularity of 91 % (master+diamond)
they buffed talents that had a popularity of 3-14 %
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That flamestrike quest talent on kael is nifty. I always thought it was shit but on the right map with the right lineup it wrecks face.
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>>140862183
>on the right map with the right lineup
pffft
just get it every time they don't have something that can dive straight to you
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>>140862620
Picking it every time is just asking for trouble. If the enemy sees you took that they will gank you hard and depending on the map that's fairly easy.

I took it on tomb where I was always roaming in the 4 man deathball so dying was nigh impossible unless I go full retard.
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Someone knows when that superman update will come out?
>feeding as superman

Also Tommy can you hear me?
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>>140865930
FEED ME
FEED ME
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>>140865930
after Kilrogg
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>>140866841
>kilrogg
holy shit are you serious?
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>>140866841
>>140866942
how about broxigar?
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>>140868494
Literally no one gives a fuck about him.
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>>140868494
fuck off Knaak
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>>140868539
>>140868649
>the only mortal being who was able to wound sargeras
>not wanting those sweet jokes between him and malfurion
At least he deserves to appear instead of superman r-right?
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>>140869446
>total mary sue who gets le ebic infinity+1 weapon to one shot the big bad and save the universe
he's literally just a stupider Tirion
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>>140846284
>recall still cleanses
>now she'll have to run by you, shooting, for ~1/20 longer to kill you with just autoattacks
>now she'll have to wait a couple of seconds more before completely ignoring any kind of danger she might get in

those are some good changes, she wont be a problem any more

here's what they should have done
>autoattacks need 3 shots to aim and actually start hitting
>moving resets this
>autoattacks do 6 damage and dont scale, just like in overwatch
>melee does 30 damage, just like in overbloom
>200hp, just like in undertale
>remove tracker from the game
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>Everyone in my friends list is playing OW
I-i just hope that this + d3 new season makes kills this general for a solid week
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>>140870837
fug tracker has 150hp in overmeme
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Who wins? This is my 13th placement game I think, and apparently I was banning
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>>140873017
>being ranked with those people
man you're going to be rank 1 by the time you end the placement
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>play muradin
>get tolled I'm garbage by some Valla that has almost as little damage as me
I had just helped the team secure a kill on the enemy KT with some sick body blocks, and was feeling good too.
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>>140874905
>memes of doom
>body blocking medic and greymane with dwarf toss aroud the altar

best feeling
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>>140873238
>>140873017
Thanks, yeah I played with a few rank 1s a few times.

But this one we lost kt just blew up our team a few times at the end because malf loved to run into people with the endless bomb, I had to vault away from him more than the enemy
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Any tips on how to be useful to the team while playing Morales ?
I always feel that my lack of damage is really detremential, and we end up loosing.
How should I build her ?
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>>140875918
The most useful thing you can do as morales is stay alive. She has the highest single target healing per second in the game, and you can turn a lot of fights around by just being in an untouchable position while healing your team.
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>>140842807
abathur is by far the most fun hero in the game, and hes actually a strong pick on certain maps and only weak on one
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>>140843485
it's also practically melee range
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>>140875918
Position well
Don't forget to auto attack if the enemy is in range
Take stim drone and put it on your best auto attacker
Don't underestimate the importance of her W
Position well
Be careful tossing around those grenades
Position well

>>140876308
Couples therapy will help you stay alive.
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>>140876525
>it's also practically melee range
>blink in
>cast r
>recall

nothing personnel kid
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>>140876308
Who has the highest group healing in the game?
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>>140878098
lili
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>>140878098
Probably Kharazim.
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>>140878098
Brightwing
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Which is the best Tracer reload talent?
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>>140882106
20% dps increase
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>>140828826
Anub'arak is the Support Warrior, kind of like how Sonya is the Assassin Warrior. Anub is for shitting CC and generally being annoying, with a bit of Web on the side for when you need to mini-Void Prison someone important (like Cho'Gall, or Illidan). Played properly he's outright fucking amazing, but if you fuck up even a little he's pretty bad (and if you don't have someone on him that knows him backwards and forwards, he's useless).

Also, beetle build is for living miscarriages who desperately want to be a Specialist. Do not rely on the beetles. If you want to shit minions, play Zagara or Xul instead.
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>>140882106
The one you have to press every time you reload, but that's annoying for only a slight boost, slight of hand is better because you don't have to worry about hit d half way through every reload to get the damage boost.
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>release hero the average dumb dumb can't play around
>wait for two weeks until some people shilled out some money for it
>nerf that champion into the ground

Is that the blizzard scam?
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>>140884440
>he still defends tracer
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>>140884440
Its good business. Any company would do this if they knew they could get retards to give up money instead of grinding.
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>>140866675
DOES IT HAVE TO BE HUMAN!?
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>>140884440
left out the part where the average dumb dumb believes they don't have enough data within 48 hours to make changes and that this game is so difficult and complex people need time to adapt. user stupidity is integral.
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DED
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Bullet Spray or Ricochet for Tracer?
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>>140891006
Just take time to get used to whichever one is less likely to get nerfed.
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>>140884440
I prefer this over the underpowered heroes that feel like meh and need buffs, at least we know that the new heroes will most likely be OP and get nerfed bit by bit.
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>>140891928
>release op character
>nerf to oblivion after a week
>slowly buff back up to relevancy
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>>140892290
>don't release Kilrogg
>thread dies
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I just had the dream Aba game. We happened to get Illidan on our team, and we wrecked shop. The Illidan even complimented me when I managed to hat him in time to save his diving ass.

I also got an owl kill as Tyrande clone, which I was pleased with because I honestly didn't even know which key was owl. (it is the one with the owl on it)
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>>140895743

what keyboard are you using that has an owl key on it
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>>140895947
The best kind. It is 56 different types of owls.
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bum
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literally fucking dead
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>>140901795
if Kilrogg was in the game we could foresee the thread dying
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>>140899807
>>140901795
Sorry, Overwatch.

I hear Trace is busted in that game too.
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>rexxar mirror
>literally the shittiest rexxar wins because I got the dc
>now he thinks he's better than me and his shitty build fucking works

now I know why I stopped playing this shitty fucking game
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>>140902240
Are you from Overwatch?
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>>140869696
Is he also an ancestor of green Jesus by any chance?
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>>140904229
Thrall has actual flaws that while not being portrayed as flaws by the narrative, cause real problems that people have to fix. Broxigar and Tirion are just straight up perfect and never do anything wrong, to the point that the laws of the universe were re-written so that Tirion would be in the right about something
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>>140904626
Sounds pretty terrible desu.
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This is not the death I have seen.
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>>140908938
AHAHA
FRIENDS OF YOURS ARIOK?
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>>140902307
>mirror matchups in a moba with >10 heroes are not only possible, but preferred by the matchmaking system.
what a fail.
also
>dem tracer "nerfs"
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oh wow i just found out dota got 6.87 update. Bye, fuckers, enjoy your mobility creep cancer-tracer ridden games.
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>>140909814
joke's on you faggot I don't even play this shit game, I'm just here to Kilroggpost
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>>140909873
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I just played my first game against Tracer. Why is her damage and mobility to fucking high?
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>>140909873
Kilroggposting, pffft
Mankrikposting is the new shit!
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>>140910209
because new heroes must be fun to play as, dummy
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>>140910209
Use anyone with a Stun silence or poly. not a root.
Blind helps but those 3 will prevent her from moving and with that she's dead, if she was half health or if you got two people.

Just in QM you can't pick counters to her and if you do you'll likely be in the rare game without her.

Beyond that unless you burst the fuck out of her she'll live forever.
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>>140910329
>>140909873
>Mankrik posting
>Kilrogg posting
Grom posting is the one true meme.
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>>140910329
Will he find his wife in the Nexus?
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>>140910209
her hp is really low.
she must expose herself to do damage. she is a ranged dps but most of her damage is close range like a melee dps

she gets one very safe, high-burst salvo with her rewind. then she has to either wait for rewind CD or expose herself in an unsafe manner. she is kind of crap in a straight up fight compared to other ranged dps, but much better in short bursts.
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>>140849323
>tfw it took me some time to realize that's Nerzhul between Durotan and Gul'dan because I'm not used to seeing him without the face paint
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>>140791384
>>140838953
>>140910329
>>140910956
>A married hubby
>Want's to protect his wife
>Fights without a shirt on

Nexus needs a real Man(krik)!
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>>140911626
>"have you seen my wife? No?"
>drops three mirror images
>turns invisible
>"psshh..nothing personel"
>chops head off with a critical strike
>>
So let's all answer the most important question.

Is Heroes of the Storm canon?

The tutorial implies that every Blizzard game shares the sam universe. And there's a Starcraft pet in World of Warcraft.

Why would Arthas and Janna fight in the same team though?
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>>140912631
It's some Fate shit, idk
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>>140912631
theyve already said no
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>>140912631
http://heroesofthestorm.gamepedia.com/Nexus#Lore
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I'm still new to this game but I have a question.

Most of my games seem imbalanced.
If I win, the enemy was completely annihilated. They had no chance of fighting back.
And if I lose, the enemy team seemed so damn coordinated we couldn't even get out of the base.

Neither of those are fun. Is that normal for this game?
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>>140913710
That's normal especially when you're new. When you get to higher elo you should see more balanced game play since players on both teams have higher skill
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>>140913710
That's probably because you just started out.
HotS has actually more options for the losing team to make a comeback than other Mobas.
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>>140913983
mmr?
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I think the Blizzard balanced team should be forced to play 20 games as Lunara versus Tracer to see exactly how badly they fucked up.
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>Just bought master chen
>your account has been silenced

it's a conspiracy
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>>140911474
fuck off
she has normal attack range, just because retards go in for melee every time it's off CD doesn't mean that's the way she should be played

she can do lunara's of spreading damage just as well by switching targets, only there is zero risk involved, and she can go in and blow someone up and get out, something any other AA ranged assassin can never do

she has no fucking place in HOTS
the concept isn't bad, but when compared to any other AA assassin in the game, there is literally no reason not to pick Tracer
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>>140914574
That would be hilarious
>>
it's slowly starting to feel as though every recent hero is "low health high damage"
we need a hero who is capable of sapping their damage output or something
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>>140915098
would be cool if Kel Thuzad has a pretty big frost aura that would decrease damage done by 25% for everyone in the area.

Either that or they could add a talent that does this for Frost blast..
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>>140913875
>>140913983
So I have to play until I'm pro until the game gets fun? I just had another 2 horrible games.
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>>140915589
It won't get better. QM is a coin toss at all levels
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>be bw
>completely shut down the retarded enemy illidan
>he ends the game with 12 deaths
>he whispers bg to me at the end of the game
>whisper him back, say "ez"
>he challenges me to a game of hearthstone
>he uses the wow emote after every turn
>completely shit over his legendary heavy warrior control deck with my cthun priest
>I used the Wow... emote after getting rid of his 3 legendaries in one turn
>he starts getting fatigued
>he's now not ending his turn to make me wait longer for the win
>he knows he's losing next turn
>still doesn't end turn
>his turn ends, he says Greetings and concedes
ayyyyy lmao Illidan players truly are THE MOST retarded of the bunch
>>
lmao just ignore her
just walk away
just blind her
just stun her
just catch her
just focus her
just make her waste her cd's
just kill her when she overextends

JUST
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Is it normal for Dehaka to almost never actually land the killing blow?
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>>140914787
anon, you're such an asshole when you're roleplaying drunk panda
>>
>600s searching for a match
Are you supposed to play Hearstone in the meantime?
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>>140919517
you're supposed to play overwatch beta unless you are a poor who didn't preorder. have fun with you dead gaem
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>>140919661
Why would one want to buy a TF2 clone when you can just play TF2?
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>>140921078
because of qt waifus
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>>140919661
>preordering any video game in 2016
lmao what a retard
>preordering blizzard games
literally the worst
>not buying Overwatch digital deluxe for even cheaper than the normal edition online
underage pls go
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>>140921078
not him, but it generally looks a lot more fun than TF2
faster, interesting hero interactions, it's like they took the best parts of a MOBA and put them into their FPS

i'm hoping this will be the new TF2, the team based game everyone loves and plays

I will probably still play TF2 sometimes though, that game is beautiful ;_;
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>>140921301
But I don't get Widowmaker Noir skin that way
>>
Hey, so, I am one of the streamers that got invited to super-secret Blizzard's meeting at the HQ. Obviously I won't reveal who I am, because I want to keep my job, but I will tell you that the main reason we got invited, well, you can expect a particular "new game mode" that starts with "A" and ends with "rena" this summer, around the game's official release anniversary.

Spread the hype and keep on playing.
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>>140922089
>no season 1, new maps or heroes
>just a shitty meme game mode
uneneding disappointment

did they invite you to test it or just for PR for their dead game?
>>
>>140922089
>>140922358
this. the game is still in fucking PRE SEASON
>>
>pick xul on tomb of the spider queen
>nova and johanna are constantly bitching because xul is a shit hero
>(5 minutes into the game)
>look at his hero damage lol
>i'm laning versus hammer
>which nova hasn't ganked once
????????????????
are people honestly this retarded at 3k MMR?
is 3k the new bronze?
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>>140922089
>arena mode
>a joke game mode intended for when you're bored of ranked and don't want to play hearthstone
omg i'm so hyped you guys

yeah fuck this i'll be uninstalling and playing overwatch instead
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>>140922443
picking nova is the definition of being retarded

>>140922425
i get the feeling they will never roll a new season since the lore of the nexus is being stuck in some random place where your actions have no meaning at all like in Groundhog Day
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>>140922871
>i get the feeling they will never roll a new season since the lore of the nexus is being stuck in some random place where your actions have no meaning at all like in Groundhog Day
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>>140922871
lmao
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>>140921386
its not more fun than tf2, unfortunately
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>>140923747
Given that my TF2 experience was playing a platformer on TF2 and dying constantly, I am enjoying Overwatch a bit more.
>>
>tfw they eventually stop flaming and start praising as they realize abathur is doing work
my god, tank artanis with slow on envenomed spikes and double symbiote
i cloned li li every fight and he never died, it was a thing of beauty
>>
So, we meet again page 10
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>>140926692
It is weird, I've been playing more HOTS than I have ever before, but I just don't have anything to talk about. I had some good games, I had some bad games.

They just need to announce more shit.
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>>140926802
the game is stale as fuck, again
>first ban tracer
>second ban li ming
>kael gets picked
>xul / zagara next if it's one of their maps
>falstad / valla / illidan / jaina / artanis / sonya picked
>johanna / muradin / etc / diablo banned or picked
>rehgar / morales / uther / bw banned or picked

i have had maybe 5 of 20 games that deviated from this standard format in the past days
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>>140927212
I mean, that's a meta for you. And honestly, that's a fairly large set of heroes to choose from.

I don't know, I don't play HL, so I don't really see the meta in the same way.

Admittedly, I was thinking about it, I literally haven't seen someone play Uther outside of ARAM in months. Anyone. On either side of QM.

QM in my MMR means you see more Cho'galls than Rehgars. It is weird.
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I know it's a longshot and invites the mocking of others, but does anyone here have an extra early access Overwatch pass?

MastrBetty#1902 on Battle.net
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>>140927484
>randomly enters hotsg to beg for an overwatch pass
Get the fuck out and wait two days you impatient fuck
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>>140927442
I played a QM last night where there was an Illidan and Uther premade, and first thought was, "good for you"
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>>140927442
come on, man.
it was rarely this boring in LoL, as long as there wasn't some cancer hero like Katarina or Zed that needed to be banned every game
in the support department i always felt I could pick whatever would best counter enemies, and I had a lot to choose. except taric, because he sucked.
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>>140927718
My friend is starting to play this game again, so hopefully I can start doing premades again. I had an awesome game as Aba with them as Tyrande. At one point I cloned her, healed her to let her escape and got an owl kill. It felt great.

My friend was also introducing another friend to the game, so we did an AI game. I suggested Elite, because we won't lose an AI game. Bad idea. They selected AI teammates. We actually lost.

What the fuck?
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>>140928081
>elite AI
They're actually coordinated, and have the reflexes only a computer could have.
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>>140912631

>"You know, you really shouldn't think too hard about these things."
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>>140928310
The ult coordination was real. The Gaz did a gravo bomb combo better than most gaz's in QM.

Ah well.
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>>140929375
Elite AI is legit better than most players in QM.
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Anyway, what would Killarog's moveset be? Give him a gimmick.
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Dragon queen kerrigan when?
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>>140931009
Succubus not enough for ya?

I want Angel Kerrigan.
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>>140931009
They should give her a skin for her post infested look. Especially since Nova already has her pre-infestation skin.
>>
Anyone else having lagspikes on EU?

>2016
>EU still only has one server
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>>140932323
there aren't enough players for the one eu server that we have to feel remotely alive and you want another one? lmao
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>>140932810
EU has more players than NA and NA gets more.
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>be rehgar in draft
>enemy team has murky, bw and muradin
>johanna: rehgar pls take cleanse
I can't imagine what this poor guy went through
anyways, game starts
>sky temple
>we wipe the enemy team a few times early game
>johanna keeps starting the boss with the enemy team having 15s respawn timers and murky being around
>almost get wiped the first time
>does it again
>we get wiped and lose the boss as well
>tell him to forget about the freakin boss before late game, murky will always stall and falstad can fly in and gust
>"I bet you have never played in a semipro team before"
>me and li ming laugh
>game ends, we win
>Johanna: gg
>Rehgar: semipro
>Li Ming: semipro
>mfw
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>>140922089
they should just rip off overwatch and convert QM to that free swapping style. arena itself just sounds like more QM complaints waiting to happen.
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>>140934825
Arena sounds more like it will be fun for about a week, and then only people in the specific chat group will use it

Kinda like lost cavern
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>sky temple
>objective is up
>our li ming is pushing top
>wait what
>we actually win the 4v5
>objective ends
>li ming is still pushing top
>she didn't even take one tower
>she's completely out of mana
>she taps the fountain
>teleports b
mfw this is a 3.3k MMR player
>>
Anyone have links to vods from the Summer Qualifiers from this past weekend?
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>in the game since WC2
>big role in WC3
>father of one of the most important characters in WoW
>Warchief of the Iron Horde
>One of the best fighters in warcraft
>Killed a demi-god
>Killed Mannaroth
Where the FUCK is GROM!
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>>140935490
>play vs AI to try out new hero
>Nova player says "oh shit accidentally clicked AI *lesigh*
>proceeds to call our team AI shitters throughout the game
>check their profile afterwards
>500+ AI games in a row
>never played hero league or quick match

the average HOTS player is fucking retarded
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>>140936928
I S S U E S
S
S
U
E
S
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>>140936715
I've killed Mannoroth too and I'm not in the game
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>>140937338
Post proofs
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All jokes aside, why isn't this character in the game yet?
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>>140936715
Cutting some trees

That was the mission that made me struggle the most, and I got mad when a friend who struggled with some of the easiest missions finished that on his first try
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>>140936467
anyone?
esl heroes twitch didn't have it. Was it covered on a different channel?
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>>140938012
How?
That missions really only required you to cut down trees and purple elves.
The next one where Cenarius tries to rape you was way harder.
And the last Undead mission was a giant pain as well.
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>>140938171
I don't know, I guess I triggered the wisps way too early and they gang raped me when I was still low

The next one I got it on my first try.

RTS have always been weird for me, but I like them
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>memeheart bay
>we have exactly the right amount of coins to turn in
>enemy team has no keeps left
>we have diablo, zagara and kharazim alive
>they have muradin, tracer and morales alive
>fighting over the turn in point
>objective spawns
>enemies let us turn in and go get chests
>turn in ends the game
oooo...kay then
thanks?
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>>140937945
as requested Ivan
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>>140938171
Last undead mission was "you better save each time kel'thuzad gave you free units because you know shit is about to hit the fan"
or "make shitton of ziggies"
>>
You're solo laning and this guys comes over and slaps your minions ass, what do you do?
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>>140939016
cast Oracle
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>>140936467
>>140938158
NA
http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesofthestorm/events/495-na-summer-regional-2-los-angeles

EU
http://www.gosugamers.net/heroesofthestorm/events/490-eu-summer-regional-2-dreamhack-all-stars-tours
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>>140939176
thanks senpai
>>
>towers of meme
>first player to get salty is our tracer
>she bitches about our nova
>nova calls her shit back
>tracer moves on to yelling about our dehaka
>gets quiet after I point out that dehaka has been a bot since the start of the match
>meanwhile butcher has been avoiding team fights like the plague
>tells us all how terrible we are as we lose
>>
>I didn't ban Tracer
>two people bitch about it in draft
>enemies pick it
>it's a complete retard who blows his combo on full HP targets before teamfights even start
>he walks through pheonix
>pick rebirth
>their thrall, tracer and jaina must always be in it
>their healer is tassadar
that poor team, lmao
>>
>>140939461
Balanced hero confirmed.
>>
>>140937338
>>140938814
Okay you got this one.
But are you meanest greenest mothafucka out there and father of brown not-Hitler?
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>>140826173
holy shit that picture is adorable
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>new hero hint
>it's not cairne
JUST
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>get disconnected for 15 seconds
>catching up for 18
>objective was announced just as i disconnected
>i get back into the game
>i'm solo pushing as uther on the lane furthest away from the objective
i don't know what's more shit
my internet, the bot AI or the idiots who didn't bother to ping their heal bot
>>
>>140940806
link me anon
>>
IT'S A DRAGON BOYS
Probably Deathwing
BUT WHAT IF it's Alexstraza or Ysera?
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>>140939867
no, I'm a tauren
>>
>>140940806
Source
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/727543529812054017
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>>140940806
You meme'ing right now or did they really drop a hint?
>>
>>140940904
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes
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>>140940806
>>140941028
It's a dragon.
Chromie if the leaks are true. But I'm putting my money on Deathwing.

Also sucks that it's not Kilrogg, Mankrik or Grom.
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>>140791384
Is this from an in-game screenshot from SC2? If so you are reading way too much into it considering when the game was released and the expansions. The only one that might have hints is the LOTV one and even then i dont think they'd mix series like that and Dehaka isn't in LOTV.
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>>140940970
From the shadow, it looks to be Alexstraza. Look at the head ornaments and horns.
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>>140941028
>>140941096
The shadow look like alex/ysera.
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>>140940806
>>140941028
>it's not an Orc
>the only Orcs we have are pussy ass shamans Reghar and Thrall
>>
I tried to zoom and figure out any distinguishing features while paused.

Looks like it's not Ysera, no strange stuff on her head. Putting my shekels on Deathwing since they have datamined files for him.
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>>140941335

fuck yes we need hot dragon elf
>>
I got a question. Is there some viable zagara build that consists on getting creep talents for the first 3 times and nydus next? last night I played with a guy with that build, he had no siege, no hero damage, no kills, no assists, not anything, but he kept calling everyone else noobs. I went to check on his mmr and he has more experience than me playing this game, his MMR was about 2000.
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>>140941335
>>140941385
>more pandering to waifufags instead of adding Deathwing
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Alex would be a support right?
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>Deathwing
Human form with dragon form as mount?
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>>140941028
It's Onyxia for sure.
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>>140941624
Aoe damage/healing

Fire is love, fire is life
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>>140935490
her push isn't even good without spamming free teleports.

>>140941028
superman confirmed
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>>140941673
that would be absolutely shitty, even more of a letdown than the Deathwing raid... who would have thought it possible?

Those horns look curved to me. I seriously hope it's not fucking Tarecgosa. Although I'd love a Dragon support.
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a fucking dragon.

https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/727543529812054017
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>>140941028
Kinda get the feeling this might be another abathur like hero, who's not directly involved in a lot of the action.
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>>140941718

Shadow of the tail deconfirms this. Onyxia has a spiked, finned tail, Alexstraza has the old school "pineapple" shape on the end. It's Alexstraza.
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>>140942001
Onxyia can be turned into a meme, Alexstrazsa can't
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>>140941993
I don't think so, would make little sense that the hero would (possibly) morph into a dragon, and "flies" over just to work as a 7 reveal spell, would make more sense if let's say is alextrasza or nefarian, just sends a underling to scout
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>>140941028
>>
I know nothing about wow so answer me this

Who is the best dragon and why?
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>>140943119
its a hero with one of his spell slots wasted on a 5 sec area reveal

all these heroes in popular demand and we get a fucking dragon
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>>140943130

In terms of individual power? Deathwing. In terms if Mary Sue power? Alexstraza.
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>>140943130
Alextrasza is hot as fuck
Deathwing was the strongest dragon lord
Ysera is hot like Alex
Malygos is ded
Nozdormu is a time wizard
>>
>>140943130
Kairozdormu because he saved Garrosh from an unlawful kangaroo court so he could complete his destiny
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>>140943343
>Garrosh was going to complete his destiny
>Thrall cheated on sacred duel and killed him
wew lad green jesus strike again
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>>140943303
>>140943302
So it's a toss between powerful character or waifu?
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>>140943303
>Alexstrazsa and Ysera
Sylvanas is already in the game
>>
Considering one skill slot is wasted on a reveal spell, probably a support hero
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>>140943289
>muh game of thrones cash in
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>>140943496
Alextrasza was a powerful dragon too but her most powerfulshit was healing so she could be a new support.
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>>140943289
just like tassadar, only that this seems global
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>>140941405
Oh yeah, bashing people to death with a hammer, how girly.
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>>140943130
Chronormu is a qt gnome who doesnt mind mortal company.
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>>140943759
>Another wow support
>Only one Diablo support and 1.5 starcraft supports
>>
so how long does it take on average, between the first hint of a hero and its actual release? did someone pay attention with dehaka or xul?
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>>140943119
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>>140943651
>what are traits
>>
>>140943974
>a dragons trait is a reveal
>a new heros trait is almost the same as one of the existing heros traits
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>>140943957
2 months
>>
Is it bad that I want it to be Chromie? Not a gnome, but close enough.

Plus, it won't trigger all the people who say having them be in human form most of the time would suck.
>>
>>140943957

2 weeks
>>
>yfw it's an arthas rework
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>>140944120
>>140944132
wew lads
>>
>>140943974
>so what's your trait?
>a 1 second vision ward
>oh... that's cool.
>I can cast it anywhere on the map
>no, yeah, I get it, vision is good
>it casts an ominous dragon shadow too!
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>>140941296
This was one of the Dehaka teasers released by blizzard
>>
so is this the hero they go back to shit releases again?
>>
>>140943957
2-3 weeks
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>>140944317
It's about time.
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>>140943289
Yup. Another fucking support. Fuck supports. God damn you, blizzard, no one worth a shit likes to play as a fucking babysitter. You should be fucking banning people that main support.
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>>140944317
>tracer
>dehaka
>shit releases again
lmao
>>
Alright well since they want to release a shitty dragon hero instead of something good i'm done with this game. Enjoy your fucked matchmaking and dying game you retards.
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>>140944976
see you next week
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>>140843068
>>140845868
>>140876402

Ended up buying the memeslug, having lots of fun with it and actually winning games, tho I still have a lot to learn.

Thanks anons.
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>>140943847
Everyone's favorite dragon.
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>>140945308
post >YFW Chromie can stop time at will and fucks tracer over
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>>140945308

i'll quit playing if Chromie makes it into this game. Fuck that annoying little cuck gnome.
>>
>>140945308
>>140943847
I really want a cute gnome girl.

I know their current plan for gnome is Mekkatorque in a flying machine, but fuck, I want the cutest god damn gnomes girl.

WoW gnomes might be annoying, but every Warcraft property since then TCG, HS, etc. have made them incredibly cute and charming. Having better graphics helped a bunch.
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I don't think it's Chromie, it would be hella weird since the bronze dragons are all neutral. Like, they just want to keep time in a balance and has no real motivation to gain something.
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>>140946257
The nexus takes all kinds.

Let me dream. Ysera's dragon form looks god awful. Alezstraza and Ysera would both mean another fucking elf in this game.
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it's tarecgosa, she's literally the only dragon with horns even remotely resembling the shadow

either her or some literally who oc do not steal
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>>140947221
Dude, the shadow is obviously not the hero himself. It's some "call upon a dragon ally to scout" shit.
>>
Is it normal for Dehaka to not actually get any kills? I'm looking at the scoreboard after games and I've noticed I have 0 kills and a shit load of assists.
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>>140947365
tarecgosa has no allies unless you want to count the mage WoW protagonist, and no other dragons have horns like that
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>>140945263
Logical decision.

>>140947372
whoever last-hits gets the kill. so it's ok to not have kills as a melee warrior with no ranged abilities.
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>>140941028
So its a dragon, it could be every warcraft dragon rolled in one hero, as in they release this guy with skins for every other dragon.
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>>140947365
arthas rework
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>>140947372

Your job as Dehaka is to facilitate takedown through CC. It's rare you'll ever 1v1 kill someone who isn't retarded.
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>>140946257
>implying character motivation means shit in Heroes of the Storm

Valla is motivated to kill Diablo, yet there they were on a team working together in the last match I played.
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Chromie boys https://pp.vk.me/c626727/v626727223/a376/pj177hZ8CwY.jpg
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>>140944871
>Being this triggered by people liking what you don't like

Are you the autist who was complaining about supports "stealing you kills" because you're shit at playing assassin and can't finish?
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>>140948405
Yes we saw it the first time anon, is not funny.
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>>140949701
Not like getting lasthits matters. As long as the kill happens.

Dunno why anyone would care about the number since it doesn't impact the game. It matters in dota, but everyone has welfare in hots.
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>>140944297
>implying Tassadar's trait is bad

How's wood league?
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>>140949883
no, he was complaining that the enemy supports were stealing his kills because they kept healing the people he was attacking. It was really pathetic
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>>140946257
>>140949343
And really, this kind of extra-dimensional time-fuckery the Nexus represents is perfect for the Bronze Flight. Better yet, maybe Chromie doesn't get pulled to the Nexus, she comes here on her own will looking for the Infinites.

>>140949701
No, I just fucking resent Blizz putting supports in every fucking game even though they're by far the least popular role and half the time the player that gets stuck playing them would rather be playing someone else. Supports stealing kills? Nigga SUPPORTS ARE KILLS. You hunt their bitch asses down and sodomize them.
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Why does lunara has a wisp mobile ward as a main ability? i think she needs a third damage one or a aids-like spread. When you think about it xul has 4 abilities with the shield, why can't they make the wisp be a 1 key like the bone shield and give her something else? are they afraid to make her decent instead of situational at best?
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>>140949790
precisely
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>>140950406
>Why does lunara has a wisp mobile ward as a main ability?
shit desing
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>>140943964
I'm gonna hope that's Saphhiron and the new hero is Kelthuzad
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>>140943651
>>140950406
>>140950484
i'm a bronzie who never watches the map so vision abilities are worthless to me.
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How the fuck do you beat The Butcher!?? He has the highest damage in the game, super high base hp, a charge you literally cannot dodge, and heals more than Rehgar and Uther combined!!

inb4 just stun him
inb4 just blind him
inb4 just walk away from him
inb4 just make him waste his cd's
inb4 just kill him when he overextends
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>>140949583
I dont speak cyka, is that some metadata?
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>>140950972
Is ok bronzie anon I know you will git gud one day.
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>>140951009
just buy tracer lol
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>>140951009
>average /hotsg/ player
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>>140951009
disable his team and don't trade if you're marked.

It's not complex.
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>>140951009
>good positioning
>everything you listed
is it really that hard?
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>>140951009
I usually do any of those things and it works.

I suppose failing all of that you could focus him.
>>
I know we are excited about Alexstraza but I have a question

Do you usually watch your replays?
I'm trying to see where I fucked up to avoid it next time, but the only thing it's doing right now is making me angry at my own bronzieness
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>>140951919
>>140951839
>>140951653
>>
kael skin, when?
i hate his default and master skins, and dislike the steampunk one
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matchmaker working as intended
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>>140952693
gross you have an asian on your team

I hate being teamed with non english speakers. They never even try to communicate with pings.

Chinks,Gooks and Russians are the worst for sure.

The latin america guys at least try with pings
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>>140951009
Literally just do whats on your list of "b-b-b-b-but im too shit to do this!"
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>>140952008
watch your replays. analyze why you suck and make rules that prevent you from doing these mistakes. write them on post-its you put on your monitor. make it a habit to go through them every couple of seconds

get ganked in lanes a lot? make a post-it that says
"vision on all enemies? yes >> push harder; no >> retreat to wall and wait"
its ok to lose ammo on towers as long as you soak xp and stay alive.

die a lot as support/assasin in teamfights? wait for your frontline to assemble before you advanced towards the objective/enemy. let warriors facecheck

get behind in lvls early? make sure your team soaks all lanes as much as possible.

maybe try to concentrate on one issue at a time.
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>>140952693
>both missed a ban
Wew lad
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>>140952901
chinks usually speak english
this guy does, anyway. he discussed picks and seemed like a bro

it's the russians and polish people i hate the most, followed by the french.
>french guy: dont pick im still smoking
>i wait it out
>game starts
>afk for the first 2 minutes
>also, TA GUELLE
>NE PARLE ENGLAIS
>TA GUELLE NOOB
>its just a game > goes AFK
>report me i dont care
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>>140941028
It doesn't look like chromie. That dragon looks like it has curled horns.
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>>140953040
It is satire of how people talk about Tracer.
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the fuck is this shit
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>>140953861

Like it shouldn't be that hard to make a decent matchmaking system.
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Why do people pick tyrande as healer for fucks sakes? when someone picks tyrande nobody else picks a healer as if she is supposed to be a healer.. he heal is secondary, slow and weak and she is completely useless as a fucking healer. why are people such dumb shits
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>>140943651
It's probably from some fucking other hero in the game and blizzard figured the CV animation would be a nice touch for the teaser. It doesn't mean the dragon has a CV.
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>>140954510
>heroic is a global heal
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>>140952693
holy shit we fucking lost
the diablo and johanna were pants on head retarded, they would just dive for morales and do nothing else
i killed morales with pyroblast a million times and the stupid shits still wouldn't come back to peel for me
i died from CHEN every single teamfight

holy shit i get so pissed when i'm doing 3x the top hero damage of anyone on the enemy team and we still end up losing versus a gazlowe who N E V E R landed a grav bomb
>>
Isn't Tracer's price gonna drop today?
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>>140953861
>>140954038
BAWWWWWW WHY ARE QUEUE TIMES SO LONG FIX IT BLIZZ
>blizz changes matchmaking to care less about balanced teams and more about shorter queues
BAWWWWWWWWWWWW WHY ARE TEAMS SO UNBALANCED FIX IT BLIZZ


Just fucking face it - there are not enough people playing this game for optimal matchmaking.
>>
>>140953051
Guess I sometimes forget to keep an eye on the map

Thanks, will check some more replies while we wait for news
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>When everyone in your team dies 10 times but you still snatch victory with the epic comeback mechanics and 2 people on the enemy team overextending
I feel dirty.
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>>140956028

Dude I'd rather have 20 min queues than every game be this shit.

Dunno how I even lose some of these fucking games.
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>>140950406
>lunara gets a wisp on a 30 second CD that dies in one hit and can get aoed
>tracer gets a recall that moves her 3 or 4 seconds back in time on a 24 second CD that makes her invulnerable for 1 second and is a cleanse
hello?
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>>140951009
you don't 1v1 in this game without a huge advantage.

>>140952008
the game is so teamfight based I don't see a point beyond watching something you haven't played. mistakes are usually pretty clear to me in the moment since they were about over/underestimating something.

>>140953786
i'll just assume it's all an act on how idiots try to defend tracer then. good job

>>140954510
>someone who knew how to draft follows with another stun
>need less heals when you kill people before they deal damage
this is basic shit here.

>>140955852
next week i think going by artanis
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>>140954765
With small individual heal and massive cooldown, are you retarded or just pretending?
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>>140951423
>>140951653
>>140951839
>>140951919
>>140951976
>>140953040
>>140956648
Everything you said applies to Tracer too you stupid fucks thanks for all the (yous)
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>>140954510
Remember when people were asking for a Tyrande nerf?

Good times.
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>>140956727

>battle momentum
>owl CDR
>Needing healing output and not superior plays and target prioritization

Stay wood league cocklips
>>
>>140954765

a 700 heal at level 20 over 8 seconds is really not even a heal. that is just an untalented light of elune heal, and that is the weakest heal in the game
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>>140956558
>Dude I'd rather have 20 min queues than every game be this shit.
This is way people say until they have to start sitting in 20 minute queues.
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>>140957257

Nah I had to deal with that when I was 6k in DotA like two years ago anyway, and when I was high rated in HoN. High queue times are a lot better than games that just feel like a waste of time to play due to how unfair the matchmaking is.
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>>140956918
Tracer is even easier to deal with.

Either get brightwing or have nova doubletap her. If nova can't hit snipe, they shouldn't be on nova.
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>>140957393
This. I'll sit for half an hour reading the news or something if I'm guaranteed to get a good even match instead of 4 minute queues that are a crapshoot. It's entirely more fun when everyone in the game is actually good.
>>
>>140957076
lol..

>KT living bombs me
>Tyrande heals me
>Still die because tyrande can't out heal a kt W

lmao have fun losing games with solo heal tyrande

>Actually advising taking offensive talents on solo heal tyrande

kys my dude
>>
>>140956918
I don't have a problem with Tracer, I'm lost on the point you're trying to make.
>>
gazlo is free hero this week. you got any builds and tips for him, anon?
>>
So we are getting chromie next?
>>
>>140957890
Pick Zagara and do everything better.

Hell, pick that shit Rexxar and do everything better.
>>
>>140957738

Support =/= healer

Gb2 WoW
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>>140957738
>he thinks tyrande is a bad healer
her talented Q does as much as uther's you inbred
>lying about kael's living bomb on 4chan
lmao
>>
>Chromie_Dragonflight_2.gif
Well that confirms it yet another meme character joins the Nexus
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>>140958932
literally every character in wow is a meme
>>
>>140959360
How is Kel'thuzad a meme??
>>
i don't give a flying fuck if it's a meme
a new support was long overdue
hopefully the next hero will be a warrior that can actually tank, muradin or johanna tier
>>
>>140958920
>meanwhile uther's is untalented and has 2 heals
>>
>>140959594
>le witty skeleton man
>>
So crazy idea for a Dehaka buff

Take his z via minimap then make it not the most retarded shit ever
>>
>>140959594
>muh cat
>>
>>140960059
>>140960449
How is Tyrande a meme? Checkmate atheist.
>>
>>140944871
this is the most baby post i've seen in a while.
cry more child
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>>140940806
i feel your pain, cairne is by far my favourite blizzard character
>>
>>140960565
Okay mostly everyone
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>>140958932
Did they really just put the name in the filename?
I don't think even blizzard is THAT retarded.
But, yeah they are probably that retarded
>>
>>140961115
It was Blizzard's Russian PR people who did it

Russians are always retarded
>>
>>140960565
>muh purple booty
>>
Bugger dragons where are Maiev and Vashj I wanna see some WC3 Expansion characters
>>
>>140956028
makes me wonder if people don't understand games are supposed to be winnable in 12-15 minutes, like they expect games that are twice as long and will always complain.

>>140957890
don't solo lanes if you can help it. he's not a bully like zagara.

>>140958272
we'll always have that paint by numbers attitude to thank for months of the tyrande meta.

>>140958932
odd to reuse a name like that for the d2 assassin
>>
>>140961316
Oh, then it makes sense.

Would have also expected it by one of the community managers
>>
>>140958932
>implying that's not the most obvious red herring
>>
>>140961669
>Dustin, that faggot Vladimir leaked that the next hero is Chromie, what do we do?
>Get the art team here quickly. Change all the skins and lets say it's a different dragon and that the slip was just a red herring
>>
dahaka is the most boring hero ever
>>
>Chromie

is this a joke

literally any dragon could've been fun

but instead we get time shenanigans again.

>can't wait for gnome form lmao!
>>
>>140962392
you must really like medivac
>>
>>140961669
this
>the next hero has bird feet and is """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""outlandish""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
>lmao it's not an actually interesting character, enjoy Starcraft mission objective #210
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>>140963301
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""outlandish""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
OMG IS TERROK BECAUSE OUTLANDISH XD
>>
at least we get a second readhead that is super cute. CUTE!
although i would never refuse sonya taking me into her strong, protecting arms
>>
>>140963063
>chromie
Cute voice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80mW-l7R4_k
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>>140963834
chromie is blonde
>>
>chromie
So what the fuck are the abilities going to be?

Considering the mobility creep you can probably fly anywhere on the map like Falstad except with no delay on take off and shorter cooldown
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>>140963967
what a disappointment then.
maybe she gets a ginger tint.
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>literally bronze genes
at least we know she won't ever be op.
could still be a fun meme though.
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Cute!
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>>140964139
I'll laugh my ass off if she can give any target a Tracer recall
>>
>>140964909
That's the first ability you'd think of when it comes to bronze dragons, but there's no way Blizzard will actually do it right after releasing Tracer.
>>
I'm only getting chromie if she throws road rollers as a ultimate, otherwise it's a fucking wasted slot
>>
>>140964878
>Level 20 upgrade if enemy stands in a bubble for 10 seconds they take damage!
Whoever designed this is bronze
>>
>>140964878
>>140964878
Chromie OP, pls nerf
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>>140965390
you're retarded
it explodes after 10s. they just have to be in it at the end
it's fucking genius against a dive team, they will shit their pants all the time, either they dive immediately and go out by the time it's out, or they don't dive

it would be absolutely shit in any tournament play, but in HL it will fuck up dive teams... if it's range wasn't literally nothing so that it requires coordination from the retarded allies in the bubble
>>
>>140965390
I would think the bubble is more friendly buffs and then the disengage after it explodes. It seems like a pretty good design with the damage just being a secondary bonus.
>>
>>140964878
Use this as the OP for the next thread because we just hit bump limit.
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>>140965949
>it would be absolutely shit
I'm glad you agree with me.
>but in HL it will fuck up dive teams
Pretty much anything fucks up bronzies,
>>
>See Dragon teaser
>Get hyped for Alexstrasza
>It's fucking Chromie
>fml
>>
>>140966732
I don't know why they like meme heroes so much.
>>
>be stitches on battlefields of eternity
>enemy team is zagara, morales, thrall, jaina, tychus
>land mad hooks all game
>land hook on zagara
>she maws me
>it's a 4 or 5 man maw
>what
>every time zagara maws it's a 4 man maw at least
>we're stitches, artanis, tyrande, sylvanas, kael
WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY ALWAYS UP MY ASS
holy fucking shit EVERY TIME i move out to use my hook they just move straight to me like the fucking retards they are
we fucking lost against a no warrior team, holy shit

>5 man maw
>enemy jaina uses ring of bronze
>the maw was straight in the center so it hit nobody
>we still lost that teamfight
fuck this game

>watched replay to see what the fuck they were doing
>sylvanas uses banshees to move into enemies every time i take a step forward
>tyrande tries to land her stun, fails and moves in behind me
>kael always every single fight with his ultimate
i spent 39 in total on this shit
>>
>>140966732
We needed a gnome, and chromie is like the only one despite not even really being a gnome. There is the leader of the gnomes but he has literally done nothing, but she will probably be in her humanoid form most of the time.
>>
NEW THREAD WHEN???
>>
Chromie using time warp powers to freeze time and sleep on tyrande and liming butts during twerk battle.

Drawfags plz
>>
>>140966868
Every character is a meme hero. Shit, /hotsg/'s favorite heroes are the biggest memes of all.
>>
>>140968012
Memes into miracles is the only way I win
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>>140966960
>calls it ring of bronze
>loses even though it misses
>thinks hes better than bronze


You belong there.
>>
>qt blonde oppai loli added to hots
>people complaining
>>
>>140968212
>loli
she's like 25,000 years old
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>>140969678
>>140969678
>>140969678
>>140969678
>>140969678

New thread new thread

>>140969678
>>140969678
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