Emugen - emulation general

>>140854492
>He is a dev
He did write a single line of code.

>it's unfair to say that he's just editing text files
No, it's a fact.

>programming is just editing text files
Text files that can be compiled into a functional program that is. He couldn't even write a calculator.

First for emugen is alive again.

Praise the resident shitposters and attention whores.

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>>140855219
and the turtleposters

>>140855458
I'm almost convinced that the guy defending vgturtle is vgturtle himself.

Would this be a good place to ask for help with audio file extraction from a Vita game? The files in question have a similar header to atrac3+ but doesn't seem to be at3s

>>140856706
>Would this be a good place
Considering your question has absolutely nothing to do with emulation I'll have to go with 'no', but it's not like you'll stand any better chance of getting answers over in >>>/hbg/ that aren't 'lol dead handheld'

>>140858058
I already got my answer anyway. They are a new atrac format called AT9 or something

>>140855805
I'm almost convinced you were dropped as a child

>>140855805
I doubt it, he doesn't know he is a meme yet. lol

>>140861067
I think he must have found out, if he really deleted all his shit.

>>140855805
I can't find a reason to hate him, though.

>>140855207
https://github.com/vgturtle127/8bitimager/blob/master/8bit.js

Here's some 100% original vgturtle code. It's literally some of the worst-looking code I've ever seen.

>>140861365
You didn't hear? Somebody else has control of the Twitter and Reddit account now lol

>>140861508
So why don't you do a PR to make it better?

Besides, he says that is years old.

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Truly the pinnacle of software engineering

>>140861838
"insert a person who sucks here"

turtle lol

>>140861508
Nope, also stolen. Here's the original:
https://github.com/gmarty/image8bit/blob/master/jquery.image8bit.js

Turtle stole the minified version of the code and reformatted it.

>>140862071

oh my god, where does the turtle ride end? Has he literally done nothing? Nothing?

>>140862071
oh jesus. this fuckin guy
he's my only github follower. I just want to delete the whole account now.

>>140862071
No, I think it is slightly different

>>140862220
It's been stated that he has done work for various gitbrew projects

>>140861508
>>140862071
Jesus christ, all he did was change a little bit of bad formatting to his own bad formatting, and NAME EVERYTHING ONE LETTER WHY WHY WHY

>>140862293
That's, impossible moron. The one guy he is following isn't you.

>>140862396
Can you find a difference that isn't a change of variable name or whitespace adjustment? Everything's even in the same order.

>>140862619
There wasn't a license, so giving attribution, while it would have been a good idea, probably isn't required

>>140862293
REally? He unfollowed me lol.

>>140862970
He unfollowed everybody...

>>140862741
you're right. he's not following anymore. I'm back to 0.

>>140862825
He probably is pretty good at JavaScript, then.

> tfw JavaScript is for scrubs

>>140862908
I'm not saying it's immoral, it's just 100% retarded, not his own work as an anon previously claimed, and he took actual time out of his day to very transparently try to make it look different for the sake of looking different for some reason. And his adjustment is a strict downgrade in code-readability.

you know, the guy who created the JavaScript code works for Mozilla, and Turtle says he worked for Mozilla at one time.

Maybe they know each other?

>>140862071
>>140861508
>adding copyright info to shit he clearly doesn't have any rights to
>didn't even do it right

This is why we have no sympathy for him.

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What are the absolute most poorman settings for PCSX2?

If this fucker: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD_5w8IG5bc

Can pull it off then I should be able to too!

I have windows 8 and these are my specs.

If anyone can tell me the most piss poor settings most appreciated. I don't care if it looks and sounds like ass I just want to play games.

>>140863968
I have version 1.3.1 btw.

Hell i'll even downgrade or grab a newer version if I need to I just want performance damnit.

>>140862908
That's not how copyright works, retard.

If there isn't a license it's assumed to be copyrighted by the author with all rights reserved, not public domain.

>>140863885
At the time, there was no GitHub page for the original and it didn't have a license.

Honest mistake, if you ask me.

Somebody could just open an issue, and I am sure he would fix it if somebody would just talk to the man like a human being.

Or a turtle...heh

>>140864319
>just talk to the man like a human being

Turtles are reptiles

>>140864552
So is your mom

>>140865476
Please fuck off

>>140864319
Turtle are you really this lonely? No, taking someone's stuff uncredited is not honest no matter what you happen to mistake it as at the time, especially when you straight up copy a project wholesale, do nothing different with it, and put your name on it. And what do you think could be "fixed" about that? Removing the entire thing is the fix, it's someone else's and doesn't add anything of its own!

>>140862071
>that indentation

What the fuck?

>>140865962
Maybe tell him, then? It is a GitHub, after all...

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Did he deliver in the end?

>>140865962
As it was stated before, Turtle doesn't know yet about the whole "he's a fucking meme" thing.

>>140866674
One had some SGI code in them, but the other was legit. He talked about in the #n64dev IRC channel for a bit.

>>140866040
It really isn't that bad, I mean I have seen much worse in WordPress themes and shit

>>140866887
so,
he CAN code: He's not completely delusional, just really, REALLY fucking silly. Why do all these punctuation edits and other mundane things if he can actually program?
This makes no sense to me.

>There are people on /emugen/ right now who support closed source emulators
>There are people on /emugen/ right now who say the turtle did nothing wrong

Probably the people who killed RachelB too.

>>140867254
He says developers have shunned him in the past (like the endrift incident), so maybe he is being cautious, but failing miserably?

>>140867397
>the endrift incident

wat

Didn't expect turtle to hate on trannies

>>140867397

He's the opposite of that though. He kept boasting and asking for attention but failed to deliver constantly.

I wish /emugen/ would have been less heavy handed with the banter though, I'll miss him if he's gone for good. How will we bump the thread now? We'll have to increase Picross posting to the max.

>>140867365
Nobody said he didn't do anything wrong, I think people are just saying it isn't worth all the trolling, harassment, taking over his accounts, embarrassment, etc etc etc

This is 4chan, so everybody hates on people who do anything wrong, no matter how big or small.

>>140867536
No, no. It was in a big report on GitHub. Endrift told Turtle off, at least I think that is how he felt about it. he talked about it in a Project64 issue.

He just thought he was reporting bugs, and Endrift wasn't having a good day.

>>140867789
*bug

Sorry.

>>140867789
Was that about that joke about reproducing someone made? That was turtle's doing?

Reminder:

RetroArch should introduce a simple scripting language that allows control over the menu driver (and possibly simulated inputs) and the ability to do shit with dialogs and the like to allow various user-created tutorials to introduce users to certain concepts.

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>>140867965
Basically, Endrift just labeled the bug as a "not likely", and then closed the issue. Turtle didn't understand why, and when he asked Endrift got pissed at him.

Endrift also kind of got pissy when Turtle asked about another issue was having in the same issue, I think.

I only remember it because it seemed like Endrift was overly angry for some reason.

>>140867639

I don't remember anybody doing that over here though. It was mostly silly image montages and hardcore memeing. Hate is really too strong a word, most of us were just making fun of him.

There are like 100 people posting in this general, it's not exactly massive enough to be public shaming. We're easy to ignore.

>>140867965

No I don't think that was related at all. I don't remember Endrift saying who made the joke, it was only a tweet IIRC.

>>140867789

Turtle was posting in the issue as if he was one of the devs though. Maybe he meant well but that shit is annoying when you're a maintainer, it blurs the line and makes it more difficult to get to the point.

>>140868145

That really sounds like a bad idea to me, it's a huge feature bloat for little gain. RA's UI should be streamlined somehow but adding clippy in it won't do a lot of good IMO.

For reference

https://github.com/mgba-emu/mgba/issues?q=is%3Aissue+author%3A%22vgturtle127+%22+is%3Aclosed

>>140866674

His dumb dopey smile accompanying all his posts always gets me.

>>140868713
Boy, 4chan hates happiness to a TEEEEEEE

>>140868290
Just make it an optional Clippy core and it'll be fine.

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>>140868814
>>140868547

>>140868547
He does seem like he has enough knowledge to be useful when reporting bugs, but then Endrift kind of shuts him down. I understand if something is wrong or whatever, but if you wanna lose somebody who was willing to help, that is a good way to do it. People can only do so much before they give up, and I think that's why Turtle contributed for a few months then stopped.

Somebody should contact him and see what he says about it.

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>>140868713

He isn't very photogenic, I assume that's the best one he has

>>140869580
I don't think making fun of him is necessary.

He may have done a lot of things, but making fun of his face is probably a bit much.

What's that picture from, anyway? It looks ancient.

>>140869330
damn. now i feel bad for shitting on him.
his kickstarter pissed me off tho. He was asking for a lot of money and only spent a few seconds on the art.

>>140869841
Sorry, mom.

>>140869330

Only one of his bug reports is actually valid (the last one).

The other ones were either game bugs that were correctly emulated or stuff that didn't turn out to be bugs.

If he wanted to be truly helpful he should have compared mgba's output with other emulators or even the real hardware if he had the right equipment. Otherwise you're just giving the devs more work as they have to sort out your flow of bug reports that are complicated to verify.

>>140869841
>>140869580

He's a goofy looking nerd (like all devs really) who posts his face all over online.

Do not post your face on github. I don't want to be looking at your ugly mug when doing shit there. This isn't facebook.

>>140869991
you sound like a bitch.
he's reporting bugs, for FREE.
he might generate a few goose-chases, but ffs.
i'd kill to have any testers.

>>140869889
I actually heard about that through his Facebook, and he seemed really excited about it. Afterwards, he said he (after the fact) realized it was a "terrible effort and not at all what I had envisioned for the end result". I think he has visions of what he wants, and just executes them poorly.

>>140870234

You'd kill to have a tester that barely investigates anything and just reports 80% of false positives? You must really be desperate.

What with all the turtle apologists all of a sudden?

>>140869929
I'll admit, you made me laugh when I read that.

>>140870396
They're all turtle. :^)

>>140870396
>What with all the turtle apologists all of a sudden?

Could be Turtle getting defensive.

>>140870396
I think it's because one person said it, now people who were in that mindset are coming forth.

Or they are all a bunch of trolling faggots

>>140870396
>you must be desperate
kinda. (._. )

>>140870487
I really don't think he knows, he probably would have posted on Reddit about it.

>>140870780
No, he doesn't have control over the vgturtle127 Reddit account anymore.

>>140870780

Can you imagine? Discovering that you've become a meme on an obscure thread of an obscure board on 4chan? My life would be complete.

>>140870910
Expect another blog post soon.

>>140870989
He hasn't posted anything on Facebook about 4chan, at least. He seems down lately though, mostly about the Reddit/Twitter thing.

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>>140868713

>>140871207
lol

>>140871271
How long did that take you?

Too long, I bet. lulz

>>140871231
What do you mean?

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>>140871502
>Too long, I bet. lulz

>>140871640
He just hasn't posted that much positive stuff like he usually does. He is usually way optimistic. Especially about Project64.

Lately it has all been about pessimism and not being able to make deadlines that he set for himself.

I don't know, just feel like he's down.

>>140871674
Gold. We should get a whole collection going for these threadz. lol

>>140871674
Make that bad ass mobile spin.

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>>140871804
Reality hit him, he's finally starting to grow up.

I'm sure we'll see a smile on his face again soon

worth every second

>>140872014
Amazing

>>140871804
>Lately it has all been about pessimism and not being able to make deadlines that he set for himself.

Deadlines for what, editing readmes? The guy is a joke.

>>140871271

Make a Turtle Club vesion of him winking.

>>140872014
I think it has, to be honest.

>>140872216
Turtle club version is a must!

>>140863968
>>140864137
PCSX2 works horrendously with the newer windows unless you have a monster PC.

No fucking clue why, it works best on windows XP for some reason.

My advice is just to get a decent PC with windows XP or Windows 7 or something. Anything below windows 8 is pretty okay.

It just doesn't play nice with the newer operating systems.

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>>140872216
>>140872427
Just for you

>>140872216
Have you written anything interesting?

>>140872930
>get a decent PC with windows XP

>windows XP

Jesus christ that is horrid advice.

>>140872990
You're the best! This is so great! Somebody should post them all over. lol

>>140873117
I'm not joking it really does work best on windows XP for some ungodly reason and nobody believes me.

The newer the operating system the shittier PCX2 runs for some reason, the fucking thing just doesn't like the newer operating systems.

>>140873117
No kidding, XP is insecure and also doesn't support a lot of modern hardware.

>>140873157
It is pretty funny, but I feel kind of bad as I laugh. lololololololololololololol

Just kidd

>>140873157
pls donut steal

Why does everyone sound fake as shit in here? How many of you are turtles?

>>140873330
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

donuts

>>140873406
I think you are overthinking how many people are in the thread

one of the last posts in the last general said that he chose bgb over gambatte..is one worth it over the other? they have similar results in the accuracy tests.

don't use retroarch so gambatte being there and bgb not isn't an issue

also emulating 999. damn they should just port this and ZTD as proper pc ports

>>140873607
Just download both and see which one you like best. Or keep both around, that's what I do.

>>140873607
999 is that puzzle game for the DS, right?

>>140873754
yeeah i guess that's an option. while i don't use retroarch (prefer to use them as individul application because reasons) i do have it installed.


i can just download it there and be done with it.

as for the other question yeah 999 is the Ds puzzle game

it's a VN with escape the room puzzle for gameplay, really fun an interesting story, highly recommended and i haven't run into any issue with desmune (using the most recent svn)

>>140874229
Yeah, I have played the flash demo and the DS version. I really liked the flash demo since it could use a keyboard and mouse.

A proper PC port would be really great.

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>G-Sync still borked in every emulator but MAME
>PuNES still stutters under G-Sync

>>140876257
What issues are you having? I have no issues on TV's, monitors with higher and lower refresh rates, G-Sync monitors, FreeSync monitors, etc.

>>140876257

>muh placebo

>>140876668
G-Sync only seems to, at best, half work with emulators. In the case of RetroArch & PuNES, the tearing is gone, but there's horrible microstutter when the screen scrolls. Only emulator that works with G-Sync so far is Mame. I'm still testing out some others...
>>140876858
Confirmed for never using one. It works perfectly fine for regular-ass games, but has trouble with most emulators though.

>>140876257
MAME's attosecond timer stuff probably has something to do with that

>>140877036
>Confirmed for never using one
So what makes it so game-changing? Assuming that's your only argument, it can't be much.

>>140872930
Are you trying to start a meme? How the fuck would the OS matter?

Fucking dead

>>140886048
The OS could matter for a variety of reasons?

>>140891453
What are these reasons? Get someone from the PCSX2 team to confirm it runs better on old OSes or I ain't habeebin it

>>140891963
I just mean the OS factors a lot into the performance of anything, let alone emulators.

>>140892429
I figured that was mostly due to the drivers available or the like though not just the OS code itself

>>140893145
Well, the OS also has things like generic drivers, controls what interfaces and I/O is available, technologies that are supported, etc

Does anybody know a good way to capture what buttons presses do in an N64 game? Like in my specific case, I am trying to figure out what the z button does in Hey You, Pikachu! so I can put some debug code in to test a controller adapter.

U BETTER PUT SOME RESPEKT ON MY NAME

http://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-1-3-4-released/

How can I set Kega Fusion or other emulators so that 640x480 fullscreen is at 60 Hz instead of 85 Hz ? Im on a CRT on lubuntu 15.10

>>140895568
>http://www.libretro.com/index.php/retroarch-1-3-4-released/
My name is wha? Squa
My name is what? ya
My name is wuwuwut? Push
My name is what? aAAAAH

>>140895568
>(Vulkan / Windows) Should be usable on Windows now.

Sadly not the case, at least with the release build. You can build it with Vulkan support, but Vsync is broken.

How many processors do I need to emulate? Because my computer has 2 processors but some newer computers go up to like 15?

>>140897213
The vast majority of emulators do not use more than one processor core. Even the most advanced emulators only use three at most. The only exception to this is PCSX2 in software mode, which can take advantage of many cores to speed up emulation.

A modern Core i5 is more than enough.

>>140897213
A quadcore is enough.

If you don't want 6th gen emulation at all a dualcore is probably more than enough too.

If for some extreme reason you really don't want to buy a PS2 at all and would prefer emulation regardless of having to play in native res or not then you might want to consider more cores than 4 but honestly it's a bad idea.

7th gen emulation might take advantage of more than 4 cores but it's so early that I wouldn't advise you to buy one right now just for that.

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>>140897213
>15 CPU computer

>>140898603
ahh why is he doing that noo

>>140897213
At least 27 processors. After that point you start getting diminishing returns.

>>140898603
THIS HOLE

IT WAS MADE FOR ME

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>>140899060
That's just because your power supply can't support that many CPUs. What you need to do is bypass the PSU using a couple of these and you can easily handle a couple hundred processors.

>>140898603
Thanks for the anxiety asshole.

>>140900391
I think I will stick to the USB version.

>>140896693
wow, you people must have tons of time on ya hands...
or maybe shitposting is a full-time job to keep this place alive.

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>31 posters

>>140902508
is /v/ still obsessed with her for no reason?

>>140903381
>her

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>>140903381

There's only 20 people who post her over and over again. I'm one of them.

She looks like my mother with glasses. I want to have sex with and for her to bare my children with her wide hips.

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>>140898603
I don't know how people still get freaked out by this gif. There's a comfy little room down there.

I spent 9000 hours in mspaint drawing the basic layout of it (of course this is just a tiny part of a whole cave system, but still the main entrance is like 10 seconds from that hole)

>>140904470
Tight spaces are just one of those common fears, like heights or spiders, that isn't always justified. That said, people can and do get stuck in places that tight and the viewer wasn't shown any of his preparations made beforehand. For all the non-spelunkers knew when watching the animation, it could have been just a gif of a dude getting into a spot he can barely breath in and realizing too late that his shoulders don't fit.

>>140905436
>not being into planetary vore

Nothing gets me harder than the idea of being swallowed by the earth.

I hate emulation. No matter what if you don't have a GPU it's miserable

>>140907981
That's all PC gaming

>>140907981
You can get a low end GPU for like 20 dollars that'll handle everything up to N64...

>>140908869
Anon, integrated will handle everything up to N64. It's PS2 and GCN it won't handle

>>140908983
My integrated *laptop* GPU handles GCN, you're probably just trying to push it too hard with enhancements.

>>140909149
You don't play PS2 or GCN at native res. That's for cucks*

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You will never play Dragon Shadow Spell

Is the buildbot broken for Desmume? It only gives the extra junk rather than the exe on recent builds

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Welp, I can't even get full speed when I upres DS games. Guess it's time to kill myself.

>>140912454
iktfb

It's more demanding than Dolphin.

Aah, this healthy shitposting makes me happy.

>>140913740

I jinxed it, didn't I?

>>140863968
Downgrading PCSX2 is a meme. The emulator has gotten dramatically more accurate with only minor performance hits. There's basically no reason to not be using the latest version. Preferably the one released within the last five minutes. Massive improvements are being made right now.

PS2 emulation isn't really something you can cheat. You're dealing with a primarily low level emulator emulating extremely esoteric hardware reliant on tight timings of multiple processors. Tampering with EE and VU timings can help some games, but it mostly just breaks shit.

DirectX has been deprecated, and the OpenGL backend has become the only one worth talking about, but it requires reasonably modern GPU hardware. Without it, you're stuck with DX video emulation that has only marginally improved in years.

However, you CPU is too slow. That pretty much answers that question.

>>140916608
>but it requires an Nvidia GPU newer than Fermi
FTFY

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>>140916945
>バー

>>140866724
How do you know? You have magical powa that let you see who is posting as anonymous?

Off course he is, that guy is obsessed by emulation, just like most of people here, he definitively knows about emugen, just like he knew about r/emulation/ and weirdly seems to know about every emulator related issue posting on github.

Turtle is everywhere because he is bored and lonely and his only "friends" are people like him talking about emulators on the internet.

>>140864319
>>140866537
>>140866887
>>140867397
>>140867639
>>140867639
>>140867789
>>140868213
>>140868814

So how much (You) did you get today, TurtleBoy?

Or is supporting Turtle the new meme? Please tell me..

>>140921814

What tiresome bullshit. Unfortunately there's no way to shut this whining little faggot up.....

Fuckin' turtleposters...

>>140921814

Oh god this is retaliation for teasing mooch last thread, isn't it?

>>140921814
I doubt it's Turtle, he's actually pretty dumb so I doubt he would last very long with 4chan bantz.

It's probably just some moralfag from irc or something.

>>140919309
What does it say I can't read it

getting SSF to work makes me hate closed source emulators a little bit since it's starting point inconveniences (the lack of good options when choosing the virtual drive, seriously who uses daemon in current year?) really annoy the fuck out of me

why does yabause suck? why does it seems like they put more effort into the android port?

>>140923572
Bar

バ = ba
ー = hold the previous vowel

so it's like baaa because a long A kind of simulates an R

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>>140923723

If rumor is to be trusted, Saint Rhycaptcha will save Saturn emulation as well. That's why he/she has not been working on mednafen in a while.

>>140925292
Ps1 core is in a good place atm. I'd love to see some Saturn improvement.

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>>140925520

Undoubtedly, the PSX core is a wonder of the emulation world. But it is not yet completely finished. Still, for the gains in Saturn emulation, I do not mind so that work on it has been postponed.

Too long has the Saturn not had its due.

>>140925292
i don't want to put my faith on a rumor but i hope this is true. saturn really is long overdue for a great emulator. psx emu is in a good spot imo is great and n64 is improving, as for saturn we have well...

>>140926045

N64 has shown scant improvements. Still, purely from a preservation perspective, the Saturn deserves it. There are untold numbers of games that never left that platform, for a variety of reasons.

>>140925292
Is she borrowing from MAME again?

>>140926746

No clue. Would that be a bad thing?

>>140926268
>N64 has shown scant improvements.
I think N64 emulation has come a long way. I love being able to play with pixel accurate graphics.

>>140929418

I don't. The only advance I can really commend is angrylion's plugin, which is still just that- a plugin.

Things just aren't solidifying. Cen64 is trying, but they keep running face-first into performance roadblocks.

Does Rachel still visit /emugen/ in the afterlife?

>>140930367
Mooch got haunted by zir ghost

What are some good emulators that were made without excessive amounts of drama?

>>140930623

None. Drama is inherent to humanity. We will never know peace nor rest until death.

>>140930623

Mednafen PSX?

>>140930851

Nope. Drama over the gender of the primary author, of all stupid fucking things.

>>140930623
Retroarch of course

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/4hn7mt/best_frontend_with_one_single_setup_for/

>>140931184

That didn't really have anything to do with the making of the emulator though, that's just shitposting surrounding it.

>>140931294

Clearly defined criteria are a must for this sort of shit.

>>140868145
you can send commands via STDIN or UDP

>>140931457

I mean that drama didn't influence the emulator in any way as far as we know. Ryphecha is clever enough not to acknowledge trolls, unlike some of our favourite emudevs around here.

How do I get retroarch on android to recognize my xperia play's gamepad inputs?

>>140932774

Oh I couldn't say. Only a primary dev or one of their confidants could, excepting clearly documented instances where the drama got so out of hand it flared into the public eye.

Most devs sure as hell aren't going to write in one of their commit logs "Changed the way x and y do z because of draaaaaama!". If anything the majority would be clever enough to think of a plausible alternate reason.

>>140932774

She could have obsoleted epsxe 3/4 years ago by just catering to the stuff people wanted out of it.

Instead we have a resurgent epsxe that still steals open source emulators' best ideas and then packages it up into their payware Android port and has all the consumerist idiots falling over themselves to shell out for it again.

>>140935480

It's not her/his job to save idiots from themselves, m8.

>>140930623
ppsspp.

Does RetroArch Wii support resolution saving now?

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>>140931272
> For example on x86 platforms there's only Mednafen for PSX, and now Rustle will come, but what about PCSX?
>Rustle
kek

>>140930623
bgb doesnt have much drama surrounding it. it works and a good alternative if you for some reason don't want to use gambatte

>>140930623
Who cares? Stop being a baby over worthless internet arguments.

>>140931272
i really like retroarch's convenience but wow dude seems to have a stick up his ass.

the post in itself is kinda funny though

>>140940392
>ePSXe, well, closed-source stuff and our intent is to obsolete that thing this year with a double-pincer attack in Rustation and a Mednafen/Beetle PSX fork that reuses Rustations' GL renderer.

Sounds like a plot of a Hollywood movie

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>>140931272
>You can talk disdainfully about 'programmers' and how 'special' they are all you want, the fact is, your presence here pays them directly and so does your participation, whether you are conscious of it or not. So who is the real 'special' one here? You are the one being 'leveraged' here.

>>140940653

More power to them. epsxe devs sound like huge assholes.

As long as RetroArch improves I don't give a fuck.

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IT IS TIME.

Original content, do not steal https://sourceforge.net/projects/psxplay/

>>140916608
>OpenGL backend has become the only one worth talking about, but it requires reasonably modern GPU hardware.
Is an iGPU ever modern GPU hardware?

If these devs are so interested in preservation why do they rely on GPUs and hardware modes which are inherently temporary? Only software mode will last.

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>>140944371
>OpenGL 4.3+/Vulkan

>>140944441
Fucking BRs, man.

>>140944371
>Needing OGL4.3 or Vulkan just to emulate N64 games

Fuck off

>>140944371
Will N64 emulation finally be good?

>>140944953
Is there any other way to get Angrylion's accuracy and compatibility with acceptable performance on non-NASA hardware?

>>140943451
not the quoted user but don't get me wrong, behind his melodrama he is definitely saying the truth regarding close sourced and the troubles it brings.

>>140945093
By using a Vulkan renderer like the Maister is doing

>>140945093

From my glances at Cen64 development, no. I'm pretty sure it's this or waiting quite a while for the computing landscape to change. I'm guessing that's exactly why they're going the hardware accelerated route.

This is not what N64 emulation development ultimately needs, but it will be a noticeable improvement. From an admittedly layperson's perspective, I do not see what else they could do.

>>140945093
By just making it work. You see a bug in the way it draws something, fix it somehow. With OGL2.

>>140948739

Not even close.

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Why is nobody hyping the real PS2 emulation savior brought to you by thegangster256?

His PS1 emu looks pretty decent actually

>>140944812

I miss turtle. The last few days without him feel like months.

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Sup /emugen/, Lincuck here. Is Retroarch my best bet for emulating everything that isn't Dolphin? I want to play some of the older Fire Emblems. I'm building it with all the cores right now, but I'm worried this shit will take me the entire day. If anything I should be using RA for Android since emulating on the phone with a PS3 controller is pretty comfy.

>>140951056
Only the MAME cores take for fucking ever to build. Omit those unless you really want them. Run RetroArch outside X from a tty terminal or using Wayland if you've got it for best results, unless you wanna use CG shaders.

>>140951424
I just canceled it and it appears it already build a MAME core. Might as well leave it running I guess. I'm using their script to build it, but they don't really say anything on how to build it while omitting cores.

>>140952298
You'd probably have to edit the Makefile for that. You can specify which cores to build individually from the shell, though:

http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Building_RetroArch#Building_libretro_cores

>>140954195
Edit the script, I meant.

>>140939186
SP should demolish that guy for being a lolicon

>>140949123
i kek'd at the filename.

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>>140954195
>>140954484
Was actually in the middle of reading it, but thanks. It seems most of the cores were build, except a few.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfycleWIIvU

>>140900391
graphics card suicide rope

>>140905436
>4gifs
>dithered low color gif with greys and reds
Naturally horrifying.

>>140923732
Better than バル

>>140943442
>inline
Fuck off back to 4chan.

>>140867365
>there are people who think open sores solves all problems in this thread RIGHT NOW
be the sores open or closed, there will be cancer. you all should know this by now.

>>140939186
Please tell me he's alright, last I heard he had a health scare.

>>140873312
>insecure
>meanwhile win10 spies on you on it's own
lack of hardware support, that one's on the mark, though.

>>140965181
Your copy of Windows 10 spies on you, mine doesn't.

It's time to bid farewell to our turtleoid friend, who has disappeared off the public stage. He never got a chance to achieve his dream of becoming an emudev. Perhaps with time he would've saved PCSX2 from Greg N. Vidya, who knows? But now he never will, thanks to this general.

>>140966229
Stop lying to yourself. Win10 is on the verge of being banned from organizations dealing with HIPPA laws. And they'd use Enterprise.

>>140967012
I simply do not understand, I see no dodgy encrypted outgoing data.

>>140945093
coding in optimized assembly should get most games full speed, even on "toasters".

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>>140967146
>He thinks they'd encrypt your private data

>>140967401
They 100% do though.

>>140967310
Emudevs refuse to do that due to muh portability and because they're nowhere near as hardcore as the guys who made even that joke of an emu, zsnes.

>>140967146
What are you using to monitor this?

>>140967310

Did you pull that out of your ass or do you actually have evidence to back that claim?

Beating a compiler by a significant amount these days is getting pretty difficult. Maybe if you could optimize everything to use a whole lot of SIMD or something like that.

Will the Mednafen/Beetle PSX fork that reuses Rustations' GL renderer, support OGL2?

>>140968682
see>>140967656

if you're coding in assembly a single architecture and a single OS, you can eliminate a lot of compiler bloat

>>140969481

For a single CPU family of a single architecture maybe. If you really want to micro optimize you have to target one specific CPU family these days. And you need to know that CPU really well to figure out what's the fastest way to code for it. I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.

Compilers are pretty good nowadays, you really need to know your shit to beat them most of the time (except for things like SIMD sometimes, and other optimizations the compiler is not always allowed to do).

>>140968952

Rustation's renderer is written in OpenGL 3.3. I think SP talked about lowering the requirement to 2.x (which shouldn't be too difficult currently) but I don't know if it's still scheduled.

>>140968682
>Beating a compiler by a significant amount these days is getting pretty difficult.
Compilers do a terrible job at some tasks.

>Maybe if you could optimize everything to use a whole lot of SIMD or something like that.
more efficient SIMD, better register allocation, less function call overhead, optimized loops, etc.

>>140967656
Yeah, it's a real shame desu senpai.

>>140948739
I\d prefer OGL 3.3 core since then you can expect some things like integer support in shaders and glBlitFramebuffer support. Then again, I did some stuff with GL2 using ints before, but that was kinda a hack and worked purely on extensions.

Let's say you made an OGL4.3 graphics core. What would happen if someone runs it in SW mode without a GPU that supports OGL4.3? Wouldn't it still work because it's all done by the CPU?

>>140964967
Not to pick a side, but do you vet for closed source? Why?

The three big contributing factors to open source is community/collaboration, transparency, and the ability to potentially do what you want yourself.

Hard to say the same for closed source.

>>140970075
>I think SP talked about lowering the requirement to 2.x (which shouldn't be too difficult currently) but I don't know if it's still scheduled.
He'll be my new hero if he ends up doing that.

Is there any reason why as people mentioned earlier that DS uprezzing is far more system resources heavy than PSP uprezzing? Is it just coded poorly?

>>140974032
Which system do you think is more similar to the normal way a PC operates, doofus?

>>140975338
Neither.

>>140975338
You are not correct in your understanding.

>>140972573

Why do you need OpenGL2 so badly?

>>140976626
Because he has an old PC or a crap GPU, duh. He's a human too. SP loves people who use old hardware. That's like his one charm point--trying to cut down on spec creep as much as possible

>>140974032
Doesn't the DS have that "two heterogeneous processors of different ARM iterations" thing going on? I seem to recall that it was totally fucked up trying to romhack for it at first because instructions for both cores are just jumbled together in the ROM. They're not even the same clockrate.

I'm trying to convert sharp-bilinear.cgp to sharp-bilinear.glslp using the cg2glsl.py script but it's not working. I do "./cg2glsl.py sharp-bilinear.cgp sharp-bilinear.glslp" but I'm not able to select the result in retroarch. It can see it if I name it to ".glsl" but then it doesn't work.

Alright so awhile back I played Persona 3 no issues really, and I forgot I had it, so I went to play it now and my save states just load black, and so does my memory card save in game, what do I do? It worked before.

wow retroarch has some serious input lag on my chromebook

>>140978807
what are you doing wrong this time

>>140978917
nothing

>>140978807
>chromebook

Isn't that Android?

>>140979247
archlinux

>>140978807
Does everything have serious input lag or are you registering a complaint specifically against RA?

>>140979521
I don't have anything games to test it on besides ra

>>140976626
my laptop only supports OGL2.

>>140979778
Must be a pretty garbage laptop then.

>>140977557
Can't those just be assigned to two different CPU cores? I mean that's just the CPU, shouldn't even have anything to do with the DS GPU...........If it has a GPU? Maybe it has an APU?

>>140981575
I don't honestly know. Regardless, you can see it's possible for weaker systems to be more complex to emulate than stronger ones sometimes (actually the Saturn is an even better example). And PSP just had a normal CPU-GPU arrangement.

>>140982510
Yeah but DS without uprezzing is easier to emulate than PSP without uprezzing. It is in the uprezzing act that the problems come.

I downloaded some 35gb no intro archive and when I tried to open the zip it was all like unexpected end of archive or whatever
where can I get a no intro collection that actually works other than a torrent site because I don't want to blow up my ratio for something that I'll never seed anything back on

>>140983647
It works for everyone else.

>>140971628
yes, because all OGL functions are loaded dynamically and so you can easily ignore one part of the core for another.

>>140948059
>From my glances at Cen64 development, no.
That's because the guy doesn't want to do any serious work himself. Instead he'd rather wait for others to optimize the code, while he goofs off with multithreading... He actually wants to replace angrylion's code with moogly's. That's when he lost me desu senpai. I still wish him luck, but seriously doubt CEN64 will be successful at this rate.

>>140979060
You've made sure to calibrate it to your screen's refresh rate too?

>>140990137
ya

>>140990361
And what rate is that?

Tried in KMS mode too BTW?

>>140974032
>Is it just coded poorly?
I don't think it stops at just the resolution increase.

Desmeme has been a project on life support for years and only considered the best now since it's the only one still worked on.

>>140990508
60.006. haven't tried kms

>>140990830
Okay might be worth a test then. Google themselves ditched X11 in Chrome OS, maybe the mobile tier hardware doesn't go too well with that mess of a display server.

>>140983647

Unexpected end of archive means a corrupt download 99% of the time.

>>140991086

X11 is a bag of hurt the second you involve it with anything. Why do you think Wayland gets so much attention?

>>140996506
I know, but the fact of the matter is there's still not a single good window manager for Wayland. That seems about to be rectified so I'm pretty optimistic for the future.

>>140996258
kinda fucked then since the ZIP format's file system struct are at the BACK instead of the front of the file like other file formats.

>>140997636
Doesn't both 7zip and matroska do the same? Anyway the archive offers a torrent too, can't you fetch the missing blocks with that?

>>140990538
Desmume was the victim of getting too good too fast. It leads to problems going for high accuracy later and lethargy. Same things happened to N64 emulation and PCSX2 emulation partially.

>>140991086
ummm the keyboard no longer works in kms but the controller does

>>141000414
On Arch at least I remember there's some permissions problem with direct keyboard access from RA under KMS yeah, it's an easy fix

>>140961081
Worthless comparison, since the dude does not state the builds or plugins he's using.

>>141000992
Gotta have permission to type on your own keyboard. What a world.

>>140998726
>Same things happened to N64 emulation
I think the real issue is that the old devs quit and no one has truly replaced them. Just look at m64p. Classic example. These so-called devs for m64p are really just maintainers.

>>141001890
PCSX2 became too much of a One man emu and no one else wants to pick up the torch

You jackals have fun with this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/emulation/comments/4hn7mt/best_frontend_with_one_single_setup_for/d2rqxiw

>like ZSNES, PCSX, ePSXe, VBAM, etc.

wow

>>141007962
Why are you browsing reddit?

>>141007962
Upboated

>>141005718
>PCSX2 became too much of a One man emu and no one else wants to pick up the torch
Except games are being fixed left, right, and center for PCSX2, so what are you talking about?

>>141011629
Namco and Snowblind. That's it.

Guess AMDfags/Intelfags won't be completely fucked with PCSX2
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Gsdx-future-discussion

>Spent the last 4 days torrenting the PS1 library
>Can't even config it right to be the BGM working
Fuck this shit

>>141014403
Did you check the game files first?

>>141014696
the games run fine and i get SE, but no music

>>141015570
Is that a no then?

Is it every game? Just the multi track ones?

>>141015851
I've only tried 3 games so far
>Rayman
>Tetris Plus
>Mortal Kombat Trilogy
I got the BGM to play for MKT, but then its went away

>>141016051
You're so bad at answering questions.

So these all appear to be multitrack games. What emulator are you using?

You should really check to make sure none of the files are damaged. Especially the cue file.

>>141012378
>Namco and Snowblind. That's it.
Wot?

>>141016336
I feel stupid
when you said multi track i thought you meant multi discs games. Yeah the games comes with a bunch of track.bin files and I'm using epsxe

>>141018150
So your cue files match up with the ones on redump?

You really shouldn't have to fiddle with anything. I don't know what you've been doing, but it's really weird that it would work and not work suddenly.

If you've changed any plugins, especially the audio ones, might want to just reinstall epsxe and try again.

Could also try mednafen in Retroarch. Or PCSXR.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1EyCF6RxQwD

three

two

one

panic

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Small question here, but can GBA games have any sort of online netplay? I only see mention of local multiplayer in the connectivity section for GBA games.

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Is the combat in Final Fantasy XII as confusing as it seems?

That checkerboard stuff looks hard too.

>>141026650

The checkerboard is a worst sphere grid basically.

The combat is rather simple, you gain gambits very progressively so you have time to figure out what they do and how they work. So no, not really complicated, a bit tedious at most.

>>141026650
Play the International Zodiac Job System version instead. It's translated and the turbo button makes combat a lot less tedious.

>>141028318

See, shit like not releasing this is what makes people wish Squeenix would just take a dirt nap.

>>141016361
Why wouldn't go go only a holy crusade to destroy closed source? It can only help.

>>141028318
>playing the iteration that forces you into Jobs while adding no new skills
>trivialize obtaining the zodiac spear
Nah

demon souls emulatio when?

>>141024590
Pretty much no. The GBA normally expects zero latency, so you can commonly have disconnects even over LAN; there's nothing afaik that really works over the internet.

It should be theoretically possible using real time rewind like RA, but I don't think anyone has ever done it.

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>>141034153
Alright, that's a huge shame. I really wanted to try Kirby & the Amazing Mirror with others, I never really got to try the multiplayer on the original cart after all.

>>140979778
>>140977420

I assumed that a PC decent enough to run mednafen correctly in the first place would support OpenGL3.

ePSXe fanboys are so touchy about anyone speaking ill of closed source.

>>140916945
Pioneer in coonskin cap riding tandem unicycle visits roadside bomb store

>>140944953
I have a GPU from 2009 and it supports OpenGL 4.3. And will never support Vulkan, also.

And anyway, if you still have to be STUCK on old APIs to get some actual legit N64 GFX emulation, you'll still be waiting for good N64 emulation forever.

If you still have a PC with components older than 7 years at this point, you really need to change. That's how PCs works, unfortunately.

Also I saw maister's work and damn, it is promising. It's faster than angrylion, and I mean, NOTICEABLY faster. Can't wait.

>>141039657
Nope. I ran it with a PC with OGL1.1 or some shit at one time. Then RA started boosting its own OGL requirement and that fucked me

>>141041856
I'm pretty sure RA has always been OGL 2.0 since the devs don't like fixed function code. SDL and D3D9 drivers would not be affected by that requirement.

>>141041856

RA has not boosted OpenGL requirements. It is still possible for it to fall back to total deprecated fixed function matrix/vertex code.

How does Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 work on PCSX2?

>>141041551
I have a GPU from 2014 and because it isn't NVIDIA(TM) or AMD(TM) it only supports OGL3.X. THANKS GREGORY!

>>141043748
So you're just angry because you own a INTEL(TM) card?

>>141043118
>>141042157
0.9.9.6 or so used to work for my old PC but 1.1 or whatever did not. I recall someone confirming that around there they jumped to a 2.0 requirement

>>141043934
You shouldn't need more than an INTEL(TM) card to emulate fucking N64

>>141043694
Pretty good. I know KH2 Final Mix+ has an english translation and a 60 fps patch, not sure if KH1 ever got it because of the HD remake.

>>141044093
And here we have someone who has no idea how the N64 works

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some cold hard truth bombs being dropped right there

>>141043987

We'd be fine with adding backwards compatibility support again but it's a combination of having the hardware to test it against and making it work again.

Contributing devs could help here.

>>141041551
Are you ever going to implement 64DD emulation into mupen-libretro?

>>141046990
That's underway. I actually promised I'll do it to the RA developers so I'm actually doing it.

>>141043748
>not a single word about intel forcing you to buy a new CPU to support a new API level with no justification whatsoever

>>141047597
Will we ever see an Ura Zelda disc?

Was it ever found out if Wiggler's Cave in the 64DD version of SM64 crashes because of disk rot, or because it was improperly ported?

Will we ever be able to do MSU-1 like hacks for the 64DD if emulation for it takes off?

>>141044560
And here we have someone else who has no idea how the N64 works. In fact we have a whole thread of them.

>>141046005
This guy knows whats up. Dont bother with games with a PC port

>>141047885
>Will we ever see an Ura Zelda disc?
If we're lucky you would probably see it on a certain site.

>Was it ever found out if Wiggler's Cave in the 64DD version of SM64 crashes because of disk rot, or because it was improperly ported?
Technically, it's not ported properly.
However SM64 Disk Version doesn't crash on Project64 when it should have been, funnily enough.

>Will we ever be able to do MSU-1 like hacks for the 64DD if emulation for it takes off?
It might be possible but honestly you're better off making 64MB+ N64 ROMs instead.

>>141047885
>Was it ever found out if Wiggler's Cave in the 64DD version of SM64 crashes because of disk rot, or because it was improperly ported?
Eternal mysteries. I too would like to know the truth, despite knowing nothing about this until now. The secrets. The hidden secrets.

>>141047607
How else are you going to get a new integrated GPU except by buying a new CPU?

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>>141049458
>If we're lucky you would probably see it on a certain site.

I've been waiting on the arrival of that disk for over 15 years. You have no idea how pissed I was when I heard the disk version of Super Mario 64 was found and dumped. Not because I dislike Mario or anything, but because out of all the disks that could have left Nintendo's vaults, ended up in a Mom & Pop store, and sold to someone who wasn't against dumping it, it wasn't the Ura Zelda disk.

It was an inferior version of a game we already had 20 years ago.

>>141049619
Thing is there is no real reason any intel IGP that currently supports DX11 couldn't at the very least support OGL3.3/4 properly (maybe even 4.5), so basically intel is making pay for a new CPU when a software update would do just fine.

>>141049827
We are digging as much as possible.
But finding blue disks with ANYTHING on it is already hard enough. The blue disk with the development drive on eBay right now, we've decided to not bid it, we think it's empty mostly because of the serial number on it.
We have 5 disks (perhaps more) with 197-09-2401 on it. All of them were empty. At some point you just don't want to waste money.

That said that doesn't mean anyone should miss such an oppotunity, and perhaps if you want a dev drive to dump blue disks and stuff, you should probably contact me and we'll totally talk about that.

At least there ARE blue disks with something on it (remember the Mother 3 blue disk saga?). I have full dumps of Dezaemon DD that I cannot release (and it pains me, but I feel I should be transparent about it). I'm trying my best to get something.

>>141050204
>At least there ARE blue disks with something on it (remember the Mother 3 blue disk saga?). I have full dumps of Dezaemon DD that I cannot release (and it pains me, but I feel I should be transparent about it). I'm trying my best to get something.

Let me guess, some asshole collector wants to keep the value high?

>>141050331
>Let me guess, some asshole collector wants to keep the value high?
Welcome to the alpha/beta/prototype collecting scene