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Real men wear full sets edition.

>Monster Hunter Generations
A Western adaptation of Monster Hunter X has been announced for release this summer.
http://www.capcom-unity.com/dubindoh/blog/2016/03/03/monster-hunter-generations-coming-to-nintendo-3ds-in-summer-2016

>I have a question!
http://pastebin.com/7Aa6HxUh
Includes links to the FAQ, weapon guides, charm info, and more.

http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u
Database with weapon trees, item locations, drop rates, etc.

https://sites.google.com/site/pingsdex
Same thing, in application form.

>Where does /vg/ play?
Create or find a Gathering Hall
Passcode: 7243 / Search
In 4U, Target: Fishing (it's 4 to the left)
In X, ターグット: Gathering フィールド採集 (page 1, middle right)

tinyurl.com
/weeaboos

Tags: MHX, MH4U, MH3U, MHO, MHFU, MonHun, /mhg/

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Alright, help me out here

threw together a normal gunning LBG set, I get Normal Up, Evasion +2, Fleet Feet, and Trajectory from this loadout, but I have 5 slots left over and I'm wondering what 5 slot skill I should slap in there.

I was thinking Sense so I could effectively get the benefits of both barrel types (long barrel/silencer), but Combo Plus looks good as well for making sure I always get 4 rounds per combine for my normal shots.

What does /mhg/ think?
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>go back on 3 ultimate
>feel how fun lagiacrus, narga, Barioth, barroth, agnaktor and alatreon are
>have a blast
>go back to 4 ultimate
>nothing but 140 rajang dick and chameleos rooms
>miss 3 ultimate
>repeat

I hope that generations can bring me the same joy 3U did, lads
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>>140737920
>full sets
>always looks better than clown suiting
>see brachydium
>adren +2, challenger +2, room for any other skills I need
perfect!
>looks like poop
...why?..
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>>140743762
>no Moga Village
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>>140743762
Don't get your hopes up anon, X's only good feature is cat customization. The game feels fucking bland and washed-up.
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Tips on fighting Gore Magala with SnS, Lance and GS? And in general maybe, sometimes I kick his shit, some others he carts me twice. Haven't played MH since Freedom 2.
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>>140743762
well, you don't have to deal with GQs, so if that's a joy-sucker, you can have some joy back.
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>>140744976
Just stick to his dick with the SnS.
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>>140744976
I don't remember how the fight goes but shit nigger, you play with the exact same weapons as I.
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>>140744976
Hit and don't get hit in return
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>>140744976
Low Rank Gore: stay under it and near its hind legs.
High Rank Gore and above: stay to the sides of its front legs and make sure to always watch for the giant slam.
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>>140737920
Just got into MH4U and I keep reading that a good lancer has to switch lances, I'm not really fond of having multiple weapons for elemental stuff.
Is there a close-range weapon that "only" needs raw damage?
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>>140751945
GS
Switch Axe
Charge Blade
Insect Glaive
Hammer
Hunting Horn
SnS
Gunlance

Element is shit on all these.
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>>140752834
>SnS
>Element is shit on all these.

what the fuck
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>>140751945
GS. High raw dmg in a GS will almost always be better than elemental
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>>140752834
SnS is pretty neat for elemental tho
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I want to pin Miss Cat down in a mating press and thrust inside her with my full weight till I ejaculate in her womb!
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Do Elemental attack + armors and high elemental weapons have a place? What weapons are best suited to using these?
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>>140756540
certain monsters are really good for low raw + high element, like kushula and chameleos.
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>>140756540
On very specific monsters, yes.
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>>140759040
>>140758121
Gravios, Kushala, Chameleos, Kirin and what else?
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>>140743004

ok first of all

I'm assuming you're using Steve's LBG because that makes the most sense for normal gunning with LBG. LBG with limiter on is already the most mobile gunner weapon; if you need evasion+2 and evade extender on it, then you really, really need to reevaluate your positioning.

For that same reason, you don't need trajectory. It's very easy to stay in critical range, and slicing shots don't even have a critical range (I'm actually not sure about that though).

Throw all of those skills except for normal up in the garbage and get challenger+2 and stack attack up. Maybe get weakness exploit, but that's more useful on HBG than LBG because it requires you to land all of your rapid fire shots on the weakpoint to be fully effective.
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anyone want to fire up a room? i need some zenith L gems and a blastheart from g rank molten tiggs.
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>need paddock oil
>cannot stop myself from smacking Zamtrios' stomach when he inflates so I always end up killing it

f u c k
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What are the worst and most annoying shitfucks in 4U?
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>>140763536
Will join you if/when a room is up.
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>>140751945
There's no such a thing as good elemental weapon, as a matter of fact the best weapons for elemental (read: the ones that scale elemental damage) are ones were the users essentially don't give a fuck about elemental damage (GS, CB and HBG, all for different reasons).
Depending of the game you'll get weapons with GOOD raw and GOOD sharpness with the bonus of having elemental attached to it, lances in 4u for example get silly good elemental weapons with great raw, sharpness and element.

DS is about the only weapon where element is mandatory due to low MVs (LBG on the other hand gets the element sticker on because otherwise it is an under performing HBG).
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What weapon was Gogma gunner set even designed for
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>>140766835
Awaken bow
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>>140766835
>Trajectory, Awaken+element up, Normal Up.
Seems good for bow. Could make it work with Sacred Bow, Weblivion, Fluctus,Exterminator Bow or some awaken normal relicbow
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>11 GB runs to get enough mats for Selene ZZZXZ.
God damn.

Anyway, how the flying fuck do I dodge upwards/downwards during idle?
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Would anyone mind resharing my GQ with me? Level got too high.

ID is 56-0924-1081-5294, usual pass
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Does Yukumo in MHX have the hot spring?
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anyone tryed this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwzZtgOBrog
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>>140770778
Yes, it works. Since I was shit at KO weapons, I used the KO bug on IG instead.
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>>140770110
Anyone? Please?
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>forgot I was subbed to ICEMANnoob for some reason on youtube
>checking youtube subscriptions
>nigga made an almost hour long video about some gaijin hunter controversy

I'm curious but I aint listening to this shit, anyone know or care what this is about?
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>>140770110
Still waiting
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>>140772380
People shitting on him without getting his side of things mostly. Exposing how much of a drunken loser gaijin hunter can be begging for donations on someone else's stream and claiming to know so much about the game when he just repeats what others tell him. Also calling out Kogath of the MH Wiki and streamer Melfchuah for sucking gaijins dick to get in good with him.
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>>140773097
>Exposing how much of a drunken loser gaijin hunter can be begging for donations on someone else's stream
I'm skipping through this, where is that part?
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>the iPhone game is actually pretty fucking cool for a mobile game
WEW
It's missing a couple of things, but for a free phone game, it's pretty nice.
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>>140773712
Around 29:13

I'm obviously paraphrasing the shit out of this so take it as you will.
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What's the best area and why is it Deserted Island?
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>>140774507
I agree.
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Holy shit, how the fuck did they manage to make Rathalos and Rathian even more annoying shitheads in 4U?
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I heard the third poke change makes Lance shit in MHX, is that true?
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>>140775205
By not showing wind pressure, adding homing talons, the trusty immobilize with roar/fireball then poison combo, and by having pillars that don't even have to be there because the fireballs go straight through.
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>>140774507
Tied with Ancestral Steppe and Forest and Hills for me.
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>>140775919
>Claws before 4U
>Even if they did home in a bit you could still roll forward through them with proper timing and go right through
>Claws after 4U
>lol no claw hitbox extends backwards more now
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>>140775919

>Azure's undodgeable setup where he uses the homing homo claw and then fireballs you while you're on the ground after superman diving it

>>140776024

>Ancestral "Ledge Hell" Steppe
>Forest "and" "holy shit get this foliage OUT OF MY VISION JESUS CHRIST" Hills
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>kill a wyvern in a gathering quest
>forget to carve it
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>>140776808
>Go on a quest specifically for a tail carve
>Cut off tail
>Monster runs off
>Chase it down
>Kill it and wait out the minute
>With 1 second left you remember the tail
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>>140776162
I just like the rolling hills landscape, anon.
and also MH1 nostalgia
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>>140774507
My favorite area is Flooded Forest
I actually like swimming
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>>140772380
Good summary:
https://twitter.com/Headhunt_torres/status/726974229363597313
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>>140776162

>Doing Azure Rathalos mission on Heavens Mount
>On the roost with the eggs
>Rath is locked onto me in a combo
>Need to heal bad. Basically dive off the cliffside
>Split second before I change area he homing claws me
>Misses because of superman but still fucking dumb that the clips through the platform just to attack me

If Rathalos took his rage out on Seregios like he does to me, maybe the Raths wouldnt be such angry cucks.
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>>140776106
Thank fuck they changed it back X.
Silver is hyper as fuck and won't chill the fuck down though.
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What monsters are exclusive to G-rank in MH4U?
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>>140779954

Diablos
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>>140779954
Shah Dalamadur and White Fatty off of the top of my mind.
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>>140779954
Both Diablos, Tigerstripe Zam, Shrouded Nercylla, Damiyo Hermitaur, Cephalos, Ash Kecha, Berserk Tetsucabra... Some other ones idk.
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>>140780776
>>140780369
Also Raging Brach and Chaotic Gore.
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>>140769454
>Only 11
You had it easy. I gave up on the set after 30+ runs with not a single Dark Dragongem.

>>140770541
Yes.
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>>140770541
No.
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Which monster would you give a belly rub to?
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>>140783171
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>>140776024
Ironically you just named the two worst flagship areas in the entire franchise
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>>140774507
>Gen 1
Old Desert, Old Swamp
>Gen 2
Jungle, Snowy Mountain, Desert, Swamp
>gen 3
Every area except the Volcano
>gen 4
Dino Land, Primal Forest, Heaven's Mount, Slayground

Any unnamed area falls in the "poorly designed area" category
I would have enjoyed gen 2 Tower but 95% of the zone is never used
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>>140783412
Hey buddy, what's the source for >>140603658?
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>>140784641
https://twitter.com/ORE_HA_AKUMA_DA
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Tips on breaking stuff with SnS?
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>>140786640
Hit the part you want to break very hard and alot
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>>140784428
Dino land?
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>>140786763
Yes, Dino land
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>>140784428
>Primal Forest, Heaven's Mount
I fucking hate these.
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new to 4u
it's me or guard lancing was gimped a fuckton? I'm at caravan 7* and I'm getting my shit pushed by a lot of enemies I had no issues with before

no fucking idea of what I'm doing wrong, I'm playing just as I did on 3U
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>>140786640

Hit it when you can, go for trips when you can't.
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What's the lore behind the veggie elder?
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>>140791105
Won't go home till he spots a female Tamamitsune
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>>140791105
He'll be there wherever your mom is
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>>140743916
Female gunner brachydium looks good, the rest are shit. Some sets just look bad, like most of the brachydios sets, gravios, garuga and congalala.

>>140786640
Get destroyer (should be on whatever set you make for farming parts with anyway), use a blast sns if the part you want to break has high defence, trip or mount when you can't reach the part you need. Rejoice that you aren't a bow user trying to cut tails.
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>>140773097
I hate iceman as much as the next person, but is the stuff he says true? I've been seeing a lot of cock sucking around various e-celebs in the last couple of months. Is gaijin hunter actually this much of an asshole under a smile?
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>>140789162
Not gimped, but now mega dash juices are REQUIRED if you want to do anything.
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what weapons are for shitters aside from IG?
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>>140793081
GS, SA, Ham, and LS. Pretty much everything I use the most.
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>>140793081
Greatsword, IG, Switch Axe, Hammer, Longsword and Charge Blade. The timing for Guard Points might be difficult to learn but the weapon is so perfect and strong that once you get down how to use it, you'll never have issues with anything, nor have to worry about enemy attacks.
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>>140793408
>>140793609

why Hammer?
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>>140793845
Hammer's pretty much only good solo when you can lead the monster around in whatever position you want it to be in. In multiplayer you'll pretty much have to exclusively uppercut and triple pound if you don't want to be disruptive and lacking in damage.
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>>140793845
Because it has pretty much the same fucking moveset with almost no improvements since what, Freedom 2? You are completely reliant on hitting the head and you can be as harmful as a LS or Lance user online, while also dealing "shit" damage compared to many other weapons.

Hammer is completely overshadowed by the CB too.
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>>140791398
brachydios X gunner looks dope on both genders.

cool blue rhinoceros with a big shoulder and arm? loving it.
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>>140796397
I don't dig it but to each their own I guess. I love Brachydium's colour scheme, the shield and the design of the skirt.
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>>140760076
can confirm slicing shots do not have critical range. They also have no rapid fire damage penalty on successive shots.
>>140743004
best friend set of ultimate vayu fun:
Regios Cap X,
Diablos Vest Z,
Diablos Guards Z,
Regios Coat X,
Brachydios Leggings X,
any 000 talisman
gets you:
challenger +2, weakness exploit, evade extender, normal/rapid up. It also makes you immune to fireblight and has good defense.

You can also use diablos pants instead of brachy, I have brachy because my talisman is recoil +3, bombardier +7 000, so I also get recoil down +1 and bombardier, but those are both effectively useless on the vayu.

Basically just stack attack skills and gitgud at aim, I only have evade extender because vayu rapid fires 4 slice shots, which means if I get greedy on shots I need to get out in a hurry.

Did I mention this set looks bitchin'?
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>>140796565
It's weird, some brach armor is clean and smooth and elegant like >>140796397 and some is spiky and bulky and ridiculous like the brachy X skirt on females and pic related. I just want nice smooth plate armor in non-eyesore colors.
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>>140796748
Doesn't the initial shot technically have both but only do one damage regardless or something so since the actual slicing part is unaffected it doesn't matter? That's what I remember hearing anyway, I might be thinking of crag which IIRC has like 7 mv initial damage and then the explosion.
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>>140797656
I think all the initial shot -> effect type bullets have that.

But generally the bullet hitting is so low that it's negligible except for hilarious circumstances where that little dink kills the monster.
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>>140797780
>hilarious circumstances where that little dink kills the monster
But that way in the second or so before you hit skip on the ending cinematic you get to see the monster exploding/being cut apart so that's pretty cool.
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I have no idea why I thought putting Apex Seregios on a tiny little boat was a good idea.
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>>140759861
stygian zinogre
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Playing 4U after a long break
it's me or there's a fuckload of homing attacks that weren't homing now? los even does some shit where he instantly talons me and I can't seem to be able to roll it as I did before, then charges and fireballs immediatly before I can react in any way
zinogre has an insane precision to predict where you're gonna roll and so does ian which seems to also be surgically precise with her flips

what the fuck did they do to them, they seem all on roids
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>>140756540
>>140758121
Apart from that some weapons either benefit hugely from element because of how they work (like DB, IG and LBG) while others are set up to be great with element because they have inflated elemental values and lower raw values (like lance). Elemental versions of those relevant to the specific monster you're hunting will usually outperform the best pure raw option by a significant amount.

>>140759861
>Kirin
Kirin isn't weak to any element, raw is better but not good. It also can't be paralyzed and takes less than usual damage from poison. Blast is what you want for kirin, and KO to immobilise it for LBGs and DBs to unload blast on it since it likes to jump around.
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>>140797656
>>140797780
>>140797876
yes, on slicing shots as well as crag shots it's the initial impact damage of the shot which takes the rf / crit distance penalty, but the actual effect damage is unaffected. Because the impact damage is so negligible, for all intents and purposes they have no rf penalty / crit distance penalty.

While we have gunnerbros here, I just had stars align on a gq and I have some questions. It was a sub-5 dual rajang with randoms and no carts, that was probably my first hint I was about to get lucky.

max raw HBG with 3 slots, loads N2-11, N3-11, P3-5, a bunch of random other ammo, crouch fires Pellet2, flame, thunder, freeze.
a max raw hbg with 3 free slots is hard to come by so I'm inclined to keep it, but without normal or pierce crouch fire I'm not sure what to do with it. Are elemental hbgs good? should I remove the limiter and use it as a normal boat?
thoughts are appreciated.

From the exact same hunt I got a max raw lbg with great ammos that RFs normal 2, crag, freeze, and para. that I'm definitely keeping.

happy gunning anons.
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>>140801239
Personally I'd drop the limiter and use it for pierce/raw. 5 p3 is enough on the Teostra's Firestorm, my personal favourite HBG for aesthetics and firing all the explosive shit, to staggerlock most non-GQ monsters, and that has much less raw than a max raw relic. And the normal clip is obviously great.

As far as I know elemental HBGs aren't very good, but that might just be relative to pierce/normal HBG.
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>>140802095
A HBG that sieges an elemental shot is aces if you have the moments to pump it out.
And I personally really like the ones that have element as well as para for siege since that gives you a lot of support and damage options.

They fall off compared to limiter-removed pierce/normal ones, but shine a lot in online play since you have more wiggle room.
Plus I'm a sucker for the roll into siege.
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>>140802231
Damn that's a sweet killscreen.
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Why do people hate Rathalos so much in 4u?
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>>140802449
Because they're bad.
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Dual Blades are such weird weapons in 4. All the double element/element status ones are odd as hell. But why do people prefer to go with the Typhoon for ice instead of Blizzard and Blaze? Slightly less raw but much better sharpness and +10% affinity. It has two slots less but doesn't require to gem in Awaken.
I know that each blade applies status/element individually so it's kinda shittier, but won't it outdamage the Typhoon given that the blast status will eventually build up and trigger?

Are there any dual element/element-status DBs that are good?
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>>140804095
Jade Battlefanzers are the best sleep DBs that don't require awakening, though they don't come close to the crossenders as water DBs. Ultimus Apocalypse is pretty good for Kushala or whatever else is weak to both elements, has high raw high sharpness and high elemental.

As for typhoon vs blizzard and blaze, the typhoons require awakening and after accounting for sharpness (purple runs out near-instantly) have 38 ice, while accounting for both sharpness and the fact that only one blade applies ice B&B effectively has 29, significantly less, and its blast value is fairly low to begin with. In terms of raw B&B do win out slightly after accounting for the 2.5% extra damage from affinity and the better sharpness, but I'd say overall without actually comparing dps/killtimes on a stationary target that they're probably close to equal on an ice-weak target.
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>>140804095
Twinbane Twilight, but the sharpness is a bit of a dealbreaker for most.
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What are some good guard lancing sets in high rank?
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Yo has anyone made a Deviljho roaring at the Maxell Blown Away Guy yet?
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>some sets look bad, like ... congalala
you hold your fucking tongue
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>>140807857
Kill yourself my man.
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>>140807857
mtq >>140791398
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will I find my relic before gen comes out?
will I have enough time to enjoy it?
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>>140802449
Because the instant Rathalos gets pissed off he throws a tantrum in the air and he doesn't bother landing for ages.
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>Smaller fov+Larger ui in mhx

Why. It feels so clautrophobic
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>>140816575
Frame rate issues.
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A week or so ago I saw a guy on here emulating 3 Ultimate and it looked gorgeous I only played on 2ds but I thought the wii u emulator was still in development. Anybody know how he did it? Because I want to play too
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>>140816575
>smaller fov
oh shit really? how did i not realise?

>larger UI
it's easily one of the worst things about it
alongside all the other issues about it
it makes 4U look a lot cleaner in comparison
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>we will never get this
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>>140818842
Is that the game being emulated with debug mode for QA? Is there any way to access debug mode in the consumer version?
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>>140818956
it's a debug build running on a computer https://twitter.com/MHVuze/status/699171278817730560
the games contain some data which specifies how much RAM should be allocated for various things, but i am pretty sure that's not nearly enough to make it run on a pc
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>>140818842
>a photograph
>of a high resolution thingie
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>>140818842
Someone break into Capcom HQ and leak this shit
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Does anyone disagree that tamamitsune is the prettiest boy?
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>>140828336
A lot of delusional furfags have convinced themselves he's a girl, but otherwise probably yeah.
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>>140828764
He can be a girl if they want to, silly.
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>>140818842
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>>140830061
I'd like some quality to go with my graphics.
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>>140830349
Would you like more salt with that sir?
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>page ten

Hey guys how wrong is it that I'm genuinely feeling some sort of attraction towards mizutsune?
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>>140836757
Don't you ever call Tamamitsune that shit again.
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>>140837223
tamas are the females mizus are the males
__:^)__
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>it's been one hour since the last post

Holy shit this general is dead
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>>140843061
>tfw this and /hbg/ are the only two generals I honestly care about

404 daze baby
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>>140843061
I've been too busy grinding for blasthearts to start dumb arguments to keep it bumped. Got a pulsating one after ~20 hunts, but now I need a dire. See you in six years /mhg/
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>tfw you realize skills are a crutch and a solid high rank weapon will carry you for pretty much the whole of g-rank until you get to high level guild quests where you need a retard strong weapon to finish quests within a reasonable time frame
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>>140845279
>a solid high rank weapon will carry you for pretty much the whole of g-rank

Being too lazy to follow an upgrade path or two isn't as impressive as you make it sound.
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>>140845579
Nah it wasn't lazy.

I lost my save data and I just kinda wanted to regrind all the way to G3 permit really quickly so I just kinda stopped farming for upgrades when I got a rare 6 weapon
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>>140843061
At least the monsters are alive in our hearts.
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Is aerial DB as fun as it looks?
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>>140850651
When you were a kid, did you always want to be a helicopter?
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>>140852086
I still do!
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>>140804095
In general the only dual-element DBs worth using are status + element ones. Things like the Zinogre DB path will always underperform compared to a simple 1-element DB

Personally I enjoy Blizzard and Blaze a lot, it's cool to do some Blast damage for easier part breaking against Ice-weak monsters
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>>140852615
>The upgrade before that is still called Fire & Ice
>It doesn't do Fire and Ice

I will never not be triggered.
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>>140852936
To be fair in 3U the weapon path was actually a Fire/Ice dual element DB

They only changed from Fire to Blast to associate the weapon with Teostra and Kushala
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Playing MH4U
Is there any set better than the Rathalos set for just doing the campaign?
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>>140853302
>the campaign
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>>140853302
yeah, you're eventually going to want handicraft because 4u is garbage and basically makes it a required skill
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>>140853302
Lagombi if you use SA or HBG
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>>140853761
That's the skill that gives you access to the grayed out stats of a weapon right?

That really seems annoying.
>>140853889
Thanks. Will look into it.
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why is the general ded? playing through 4u now with others and its fun
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>>140854203
llllatefag
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>>140854203
>playing with others
I should really try to get some friends to play again. At least to have them help me get some free loot.
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>>140776162
>>Azure's undodgeable setup where he uses the homing homo claw and then fireballs you while you're on the ground after superman diving it
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Are there egg missions in Gen?
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>>140780776
Daimyo is in high rank, plum is g-rank only. cephalos is also high rank.
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>>140776162
>Forest "and" "holy shit get this foliage OUT OF MY VISION JESUS CHRIST" Hills
>Not Hallways of Destruction
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>>140854389
if 600+ hours is late then i suck. Well im horrible with HBG so working on getting gud.
Mostly playing weapons im not comfortable with so far no triple carts but i might have jinxed myself.
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>>140853761
best MH though
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>>140855995
>if 600+ hours is late then i suck

Uh, that's not how release dates work. Unless that's your time since release, which if so, nigga u part time.
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>>140856334
picked up a N3ds last june been playing MHFU and pturd on emu for a while.
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>>140853110
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>>140830061
I envy my slanted eye friends.
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>>140853954
Handicraft gives you extra sharpness points, which means more damage and less bouncing, but it's not essential for caravan. You should go for it if you are soloing GH or going G rank though, every last bit of sharpness helps.
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>need zinogre plate
>25 low rank zinogres later
>still no plate

the worst part is i'm probably not even going to use the shitty zinogre bow. i just want a pierce bow and rajang can fuck off
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>>140857706
Just do the high rank village hunt-a-thon
also
>pierce bow
oh shit nigger, the fuck are you doing?
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>>140857842
doesn't high rank not give plates from carves? i know pierce bows are trash, but i've been using the fluctus on my new character and it feels so good.
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>>140857706
>Do a LR Zin in P3rd
>Cut tail
>Carve Plate
>Make him drop a shiny
>It's a Plate
>Kill it
>Carve body the first time
>Plate
>Getting all three in a row is a .002% chance

I already got all the plates I needed beforehand.
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>>140857706
>100 Kush
>no small crown
>200 Seltas Queen
>no small crown
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why is the gog bow so worthless /mhg/

why did they do this
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What's better as a SA set?
Challenger +2, rodeo god, s+1, evasion +1, evade extender, steady hand. Weapon is Warglaive wand
Or
Constitution +1, honed blade, e+1, razor sharp, evade extender. Weapon is caedeed axe
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>>140785937
Late thanks here.
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>>140865206
You're welcome.
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>>140864109
Set one will be a lot better against kushalas and longer hunts due to Ceadeed having smallish purple. That being said, set 2 is probably stronger against most things due to Ceadeed being so much stronger than Waxglare. You should be using set 2 most of the time, solid set.
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>>140857706
see >>140845126
it was actually 31 hunts btw, I checked my guild card to be sure (that's not including m tigrex hunts before this session, which also never yielded a heart)

we can commit a romantic double suicide
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>>140865707
Thanks, been ages since I created set 2,which i prefer as you might have recognised set 1 being star knight.
I don't really use sa, which is a snake because it's a fun weapon, might be one of the few weapons that are more fun solo though.
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>>140865478
wud u date tama?
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>>140867051
I agree with it being more fun solo, and I'm going to throw CB in there as well. Hard as fuck to abuse guard counterattacks when the monster runs every BUT where you are.
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>>140867515
Probably.
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Bonjour. My name is Jacques. I use shock trap on the Zinogre.
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>>140867798
Bonjour Jacques. I am André, a massive shock trap fan. I always use my traps whenever my team needs it like when we're fighting against a gypceros.
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So was Monster Hunter 3 U the last good one?

I got 4U for 3DS last year but never played it, and now i hear X is coming out
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>>140869360
anything older than gen 3 is starting to show its age
any gen 3 game but tri is fine
gen 4 has promising ideas but executes them poorly for the most part
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>>140869360
4u is very fun and in its heyday people were calling it the best mh to date. I still think it is. With the advent of X / mhGen a lot of people are shitting on it, but it's a good game.
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Need help with D.Seltas Queen
Just need to fight it one more time

Hall ID
33-0928-6098-7893
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>>140869778
>Capcom wanted to improve on the idea of vertical combat attempted with 3rd's water combat
>Introduced ledges and slopes
>Ledges are poorly slapped all over maps and will get you killed if you roll on/off one while dodge
>Depending on your attacks, slopes will cause you to miss hits
Did no one in testing realize how poorly executed ledges and slopes were? I like the idea for vertical combat and slopes aren't too bad if they aren't quick sand but there's no excuse for cancelling out a roll because you accidentally got too close to a ledge.
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I'm thinking about branching out to a different weapon. I love the charge blade but I wanna try something new. Is hammer or gunlance any fun? I used to use a lot of gs/ls in the older games and could go back but I wanna try something new entirely.
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>>140871295
it would be a good bit better if they didn't ditch any iframes you may have due to rolling into a ledge and basically allowed you to act and move freely, except that you're climbing up a ledge
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>>140871912
>gunlance any fun?
Gunlance is probably one of the most fun weapon types in the game, if not the most fun.

The first time you intercept a leaping monster and knock it out of the air with a wyvern fire will make your dick rock hard.
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>>140872774
It's also the worst weapon in the game.
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After reaching G rank I realized how shit this game is. It was sort of fun to get there at least.
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>>140871295
Be aware of your surroundings and git gud
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>>140873161
Fuck you say that to my face and not over the internet faget
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>>140873161
Not even close, especially if you know how to use it.
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>>140873964
b-b-but muh shitty GameFaqs speedrunner tier list!
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>>140874329
>speedrunners
>anything other that autistic, no life faggots
Who gives a shit about shaving .02 seconds off of your best time when you can have fun?
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>>140867798
Shock traps work on zin, just not when it's enraged.

source: I've hunted zin more than any other monster for some reason? It's pretty fucked up, I don't even like it
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>>140873964
It is objectively the second worst weapon in the game, period. Worst is obviously switchaxe.
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>>140874761
That's how they have fun
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>>140873647
But anon, I did git gud. The problem is that gitting gud doesn't fix broken mechanics from being broken. It just make ledges into a chore that you have to watch out for during fights.
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Requesting MH videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9NYYewCSxo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsQeIKX6XB8

Here's two classics.
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>>140875262
>I did git gud
>broken mechanics
If you're not shitposting you should probably end yourself. No ledge in any map moves. There always in the exact same spot. Is that really too hard for you?
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>>140873697
>>140873964
If you know the weapon that well, you know it's terrible.
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>>140875687
>If you're not shitposting you should probably end yourself
Fuck anon, you're right. All I was missing this entire time was that I wasn't shitposting. Thank you so much, you really opened my eyes.
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>>140876490
I've never been fucked up by ledges, like just move away from them or something if you can't deal with it.
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>>140875295
>mh4
>classic
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>>140875295
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkUsYpLdgWw
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>>140875295

Someone please post the Volvidon one.
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>>140881416

nvm found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma7oGoRjUzg
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guys help
https://youtu.be/12ZDBpMOlMI?t=58
what is that blue damage effect? it only happens like twice in the video. he's using the grimclaw tigrex ds, which has no element/status. and the other guy is using a para sns. is something just randomly causing ice damage?
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>>140882713
its mount damage, when someone is mounting and you attack them you help towards the mount.
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>>140882891
oh wow i didnt even notice it was mounted. ok that makes sense
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Will cuteposting save /mhg/ or destroy it?
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>>140890310

An obese Tigrex that charges at you very slowly and instead of roaring burps like Congalala.
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>>140890710
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>monster leaves area by land
>chase it
>it's behind you prepping an attack as soon as you load in
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>>140890710
Don't make fun of Akantor like that, he is not a Congalala
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Why is Megane so CUTE
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Sir Mike where did you go come abck we miss you
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How do you feel about the early game, where money is actually valuable?
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>>140899045
My early game tradition is to beeline for Rathian and put her on farm status until I'm completely rich off of selling scales and shells.
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>>140899409

I just become a power seed farmer.
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Do you hold grudges against small monsters? If a bullfango or something fucks up my combo even once, I'll completely ignore the large monster until the bullfango or something is dead.
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>>140903687
I hold huge grudges towards rhenoplos, konchu, bullfaggot, ioprey and bhanbahabara
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Fresh out of the oven
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>>140903687
God damn that LS went fucking flying.
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>>140751945
>>140752834
Why are people always doing this? You can't generalize classes like this when there are so many unique cases of raw/element ratios. There are Great Swords with 700 element damage that only have slightly less raw than the next GS and probably even more sharpness and slots. Of course there is a good chance it's better for a monster weak to the specific element than the weapon with no element damage.

For example, you would probably rather use the Black Fatalis GS for Shagaru than the Diablos GS which has worse sharpness, worse affinity and no element but ~150 more raw.

Personally I would still prefer the Seregios GS but that's just because of its gimmick.

Of course element is even more important for other weapon classes. No idea why this retard even lists Insect Glaive and SnS. /mhg/ is infested with dumb shitposters, though.

99% the /mhg/ players also suck ass, so you shouldn't listen to everything they say anyway.
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>>140904635
Wouldn't mouse aiming make gun even more OP? Why no webms about someone aiming with mouse?
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>>140853761
4U is probably one of the G Rank MHs with Sharpness +1 being least required. Are you dumb?

There are many weapons with natural sharpness, also GQ weapons, Seregios weapons and purple sharpness got nerfed anyway.

Fuck, /mhg/ turned into pure shit over the last months.
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>>140737920
Shot in the dark here but anyone happen to know where I put the DLC folder for the ps3 HD Ver. of MH 3rd on a cfw ps3?
I know where to put it on the psp but this is the ps3 version and i dont have a pspsave game folder from what i cant tell
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>>140853551
She is a sexy beast.

>>140853302
Depends on the monster.

Idiot.
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>>140905493
Obviously that webm is using a mouse. It's a step up sure from 10+ years of aiming using dpad or emulated dpad.
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>>140905493
I play bow on mho, never played it before because i'm a terrible shot in console monhun. But god damn it, you can rack up beast damage with a bow, aiming is super easy, and keeping your critical distance from the monster is not even an inconvenience, camera movement is a mindless task with a mouse.

It can be really fun but, I change to blademaster every now and then because it does get rather repetitive.
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>>140905897
i actually have 0 problems aiming with the bow on 3ds and i have an OXL
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>>140853761
Isn't handicraft and honed blade basically the same?
or am I missing something.

Besides honed giving extra damage
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>I think it's low enough to capture
>trap monster
>throw two tranqs
>it's not asleep so I hit it a bunch
>monster escapes from the trap and limps away
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>>140908724
When in doubt just wait for it to run away.
Also that is a very, very nice filename.
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I hate that big snake beast in MH4U
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>>140909195
>waiting for cap monster
>he starts limping to fly away
>putting down the trap ahead of him
>cat begins to do homosexual things with the other cat
>no
>trap is down, monster walks on it
>no
>cat jumps on his mini faggot tank and shoots it
>monster dies
>no cat carves

And this is why I don't like to bring them around.
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>>140909392
I love me a big snek.
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ded gaeme
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>>140853302
Depends entirely on what weapon you're using and what monsters you're fighting. Rathalos is pretty solid. Also despite what anon said, sharpness+1 will make your life easier buy is by no means a required skill for singleplayer. And if you're a gunner there isn't really any single required skill, though singleplayer Evade Extender is really peachy to have on HBG because your mobility is shit, your block is worthless and you take nine years to sheathe.

That said any armour or no armour is fine if you git gud, there's aspies here who have done most of the quests naked.

>>140853889
Lagombi is great for any weapon. Repeatedly rolling with EE is as fast as sprinting, the only way you can move faster with a weapon drawn is lance's charge which is between sprinting and panic running. Sheathing is also great for pretty much anything but DB, HH, Bow and SnS. And the most important thing to consider, which is that it looks great on both genders. I went through the whole game from singleplayer 4* to g3 in Lagombi, no regrets.
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Should I bother with Narga armor in 4U?
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>>140915453
If you want, yes. If not, no. There's other armour sets you can get those skills from, especially if you get a good talisman.
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Tips for getting gud at HBG? I got bored with GS trying ro take down silver rath and made a new gunner but i cart all the time. Also, what gear should I aim for? Currently using dahren mohren gun and oldass jaggi armor
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>>140920835
make narga x and just roll through every attack in the game
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Flame Rathalos or Firedrake Rathalos?
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>>140921509
Neat. Ill work on it. Dahren HBG good enough for now? I was using the rath gun but couldnt find a ruby amd said fuck it
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>>140922590
>english
wait, what?
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>>140922590
They could have just gone with "Blazing", or something.
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>>140923178
Yes MH Explore already launched in english, only in Canada on iOS

Don't know why people take it out from the OP.
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>>140923568
how did i miss this?
i'll probably still stick to the JP version until further notice, but still
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>>140923607
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/monster-hunter-explore/id1080932997?mt=8
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>>140923245
>tfw no blazing kushala subspecies
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>>140924340
Didn't you hear? Kushala is poison now.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XS5z0_wqBv0
Goddamn this looks fun
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>>140925130
I don't like it.
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>farming cham for elder dragon gems
>20 chams later and no gem
>max potion stolen

fuuuuccl=kkk
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>>140928924
>not kush or teo
seek help
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>>140929873
it's a new-ish save and i always get the full chem set and chem duels before farming kusha for a bow set i use teo/everything. it's my system.

i genuinely have no idea how to melee teo.
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>>140930206
>i genuinely have no idea how to melee teo.
Mount or sleep it to break enrage, attack its back legs when that isn't feasible to trip it, attack the head and tail while it's down to break them/dish out heavy damage. I have more trouble fighting it as gunner because it moves so fast.
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>>140930945
>I have more trouble fighting it as gunner because it moves so fast.

I pretty much always wreck him without getting touched once providing I'm using a bow. I could give it a try with a lance and see how that goes. I got my ass handed to me multiple times when I first got G3 on my original save and never tried again.
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So, the cool cats that have MHX, how good are the HGB, solo and in group?
What are considered the more fun classes and styles?
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>>140933354
It's HBG, take a wild guess where it stands
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>>140933609
HBG is always good, but things might change? Now with all the fancy styles and whatnot, but yeah, HBG will always be viable
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is Toad Bereaver a good GS?
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>>140935667
in 4u? not at all. tetsu weapons are worthless.
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>>140935860
even considering the upgrades?
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>>140935915
even the final weapon is pretty trash. it's a shame because i really want to hit things with a giant kitchen knife.
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>>140933354
Well I'm not really a hbg user i might even say i'm a terrible gunner in general, but I was doing some arenas with a friend, and we were doing hbg only, and was quite fun, bushido makes everything quite easy. Perfect evasion plus full reload.
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>need fatalis flamehorns
>most groups are doing the super crimson fatalis and I'm not comfortable doing that one because I haven't grinded divine spheres and I'm not a perfect player that never gets hit
>the ones doing normal crimson never get it down enough for us to break its horns
>if I start a room it's always sitting for two hours as people join the room, look at the board, then leave the room

Goddammit, I'll never forge the true ruiner reaver at this rate.
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>>140933354
Why is she so cute?
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>>140939000
Make a room. I'm furious at randoms now, an /mhg/ room to pass the time would be a godsend.
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>>140939000
I'll join too. I havnt done Fat in ages, so might die, might bring the hbg which dont help the dying part
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>>140939452
Hall ID is 57-4410-3062-9617. Pass is 7243. I'm not a great player, I'd just consider myself half decent. I just like to play the game. I don't know the fatalis fights too well, I really only fight them when I need their parts and ignore them otherwise. Is A Feast for the Departed the easiest G crimson fatalis?
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Exactly how shit is pellet in 4U? I was thinking about making a pellet set for fun.
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>Seregios GS
How good is the roll sharpness gimmick?
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>>140925130
This is the gayest thing since pre-sliced bagels.
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>>140942938
Very good.
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>>140928924
i finally got it
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>>140939000

Dude, what? People here usually destroy any Fatalis in less than 10 minutes in a group, and the horns are ALWAYS broken twice because the Fatalis get's mounted and gets its horns broken before it can even stand up again. And if not that, after the second mount. Goes for Black, White or Red. Randoms are 50% shitters, and don't let anyone who has defense of <600 as a Blademaster join
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>>140943746
I was talking about when I just search fatalis and join public halls.
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How do you guys get goddamn sonic bombs without making it a goddamn chore?? Farming B.Diablos is shit when screamer sacs can't be farmed or Wycoon'd.
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>>140943125
pre sliced bagels are great tho. not everyone wants to carry a sharp ass knife in their pockets at all times.
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>>140944841
i just don't use them. it's not worth it considering how often i fuck up the timing and waste them.
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>>140944841

You don't need them at all, just cheese Diablos with Bounding Dala or something, won't take much more than 8 minutes even at G, the one at the Caravan has low HP
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>>140939000
>>140943746
>>140944436
I don't get it, even in random rooms there's always a baguette user who spams mount for Fatalis.
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dual bowguns when
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>>140947927
I'm relic farming a B.Diablos/Deviljho 140 GQ is the thing
Maybe I'll just go ham on a few Great Jaggis with GS for a few minutes.

Anyone wanna join me screamer sac farm?
47-4294-6186-5358
Rage
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>>140944841

There's got to be some good way to get sonic bombs in 4U, but I don't remember what it is.
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>>140951050
You can farm for frenzy shards, but its the same deal
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whats the general consensus on x? im thinking of picking it up when I comes to the states
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>>140951050
I miss Granny Go-To...
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>>140949117
bowpistols would be a worthy addition to ranged options
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Is there anyone at all playing X online? Everytime I try to make a room or search for one I never seem to find anyone.
Or are they all just doing endgame stuff?
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>>140953882
It's okay. I think I enjoyed 4U a little more though, despite mhx being better balanced.
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>>140944841
>>140951050
Go to the juju kid in Cathar, meld items, screamer sac. You probably have a shitload of the basic frenzy shards even though iirc they're a low rank item.

Wish you could exchange pure frenzy crystals as well as viles for dash extracts, because in GR I get way more of the former.
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>>140942674
Pellets lack the all-important critical range modifier, which gives a 50% boost in raw damage, whereas Normal and Pierce do.
While Pellet Up gives a larger 20% boost, this doesn't make up for it.
TL;DR It's fucking shit. Just learn to aim.
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>>140958234
Why is the screen shaking at a certain distance, then?
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>>140954149
They need a gimmick, considering LBG is already quite agile.
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>>140958480
May you can run while they're drawn. Just not superman dive.
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>>140958234
Pellets also do significantly more base damage. The problem with pellets is their spread. In previous games a lot of monsters had an area on their body that was a "pellet magnet," meaning if you hit the monster within pellet's "critical distance" every single pellet would gravitate to and hit it, doing more than twice the base damage of normal (pellet 3 is 5 pellets with 5 mv each while normal 2 is 1 shot with 12 mv, normal 3 being the eclectic ricochet shot0 and damage on-par with pierce. These are still in 4U and presumably X, but they are not as common as they used to be. That means for certain monsters, provided you're willing to be much closer to them, pellet significantly outdamages normal even without the critical distance modifier- a 2x modifier is more than a 1.5x anyway.

>>140958475
That's the distance at which pellet magnets activate.
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>>140960249
Do you have any proofs? I don't notice more hits on pellet magnets when the screen shake, on the contrary.
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>>140958480
I can think of a few, I didn't list them because that would be spergy and I figured they were fairly obvious but
>lower-damage more rapid fire than lbg; extremely proficient at applying status because of this
>can load two types of ammo at once or the same type in both guns, firing the guns individually or alternately for a higher rate of fire
>gimmicky ones could have different loadable ammos for each gun
>or for a generalised class gimmick they could have something like crag shot that is fired from one pistol and then detonated at will with the other to strategically deal large damage to stagger the monster or avoid blasting teammates
Basically it would be to LBG what DB is to SnS.
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>>140960921
How about this.
>Faster LBG, both in mobility and attacking
>Fixed Element like bows
>Work like CB (Element or Raw, not Impact, like Shells)
>Attacks like a blademaster weapon using a bow-like aim
>Can dodge shoot once
>Can charge attacks to shoot in bursts but locks you for the duration of the burst
>Can charge burst during dodges, releasing the burst after a dodge does a backhop/flip/whatever
>Only normal shots, no pierce or pellets
>Limiter removal remove bursts and dodge shooting but increases class modifier
>Power Barrel or Aim Assist ( IG marker thing that also needs to be shot)
>Recoil Down affects the burst recoil
>Uses "bow coating" but renamed

Basically a Blademaster/Bowgun/Bow hybrid.
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>>140961792
>>Only normal shots, no pierce or pellets
Why? Why not have two sawn-off semiautomatic shotguns?
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>>140962189
Hm, that could actually work, class modifier is bland.
Limiter off turns them into shotguns, approved.
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>>140962189
You could pull a GL and have different guns locked to different shot types.
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This is the only picutre I have of a tq hbg user, and that better be a female!
Where would I proqure more of qt hbgs? And why are there so few of them?
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>>140965337
EPISODE has a Loli HBG.
We will never get an English release.
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>>140965337
>that better be a female
Looks to be Raiden.
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>>140954618
I know right? Over 180 pure frenzy crystals and I can't use them on dick
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>>140965881
it hurts

Italian isn't the same
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>>140966808
I have 600 right now, I use them sometimes. It's not really fair to compare them to viles because every time I hit fifty of those I trade them for dash juice.
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mhx unlocked HR turns

43-0227-5540-9630
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>tfw finding a decent relic in your chest you had completely forgot about
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>>140968610
00-
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>>140976215
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What are the optimal paralysis cats in P3rd? I'm using persistant boomerang cats right now, but I've heard that courageous and melee is better.
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What is considered the best Raw, Blast, and Dragon lance?
I use Steve for raw and Brach for blast, but I'm not sure what to use for Dragon. I'm thinking either Stiggy or Gore? Help me out.
Despite what people say about the Steve lance, I actually think it's pretty good. Even though it requires 6 evades, it's pretty much nothing since I evade all the time. I constantly bounce around high white/low purple.
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>>140977209
dragon is gore/w.fatalis

raw is gog/ukanlos for guard, regios for evade

blast is c.fatalis, the affinity is really strong for it and 3 slots.
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>>140977209
Grislance, Dalamadur for raw, use element, it's always better.

Lightbreak, no competition. Only ever use C.Fatalis if you really need the three slots.

Both Fatalis depending on the weakness, Shagaru for Chargespam on Dalamadur.
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>>140976258
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MHX comfy turns!

54-5117-9293-0990
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Do you get virus rewards from subquesting out?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1CCLAo52V4
muh dik
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>>140776808

>Farming G Savage Deviljho for Deviljho's Crook
>Get it from his tail carve
>People d/c from room
>Keep fighting him, hes probably under 30% anyway
>He starts eating me and Ive forgotten dung bombs
>If I die thats the last cart so I abandon quest out of impulse
>Forget that abandoning resets your items

fml desu senpai ishygddt
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>>140977982
>regios
Spot the latefag misinformed shitter
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>>140979919

OOO

I hope you finished off that Garuga after you dced, he only had about 5 minutes of fight left in him
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>>140986125
I did, but my net's acting up today, so I'm gonna stop for now.
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>>140983568
>doesn't even need drive
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Anyone got that picture with an anime girl in front of Tanzia on a couch?
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Hey bros, looking for some help farming G3 Kush

Rooms 29-1414-9113-0081

Room is open. Ill take what help I can get
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Is this good for a pellet set?
Challenger+2
Pellet Up
EE
Evasion+1
Attack up S
I may be able to get more once I figure out what the strongest pellet HBG is
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>>140995490
For pellet HBGs I'm assuming it's between Precision Pico Peco, Azure Buster and Trembling Lordship, anyone have any input on this?
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>>140996662
Trembling Lordship.
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>>140997294
Is this supposed to be a joke on using pellets instead of a pierce gun
because the punchline is wrong, pellets themselves are the punchline to the joke
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>>140997704
I know I'm probably wasting my time but I want to have a shotgun set for fun
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I just hit HR in 4U, what armor should I make for lancing? I was thinking about something with Attack Up, but that would leave me without Guard, which is a pain. Currently using Barroth with gemmed Attack Up (M). I have a Gore set, lobster and some pieces of Narga to mix later on, maybe.
I'm at 7*, should I just finish the Hermitaur set and then try to make something better at Caravan 8*? Maybe get a Guard charm? Or perhaps try to get accustomed to evade lancing already? Thanks.
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>>140999076
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>>140995490
One last question, Attack Up S or CE+2? Trembling Lordship has -15% affinity.
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>>140998010

Isnt gods isle the shotgun because of rapid crag?
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>>140999401
CE2
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>>140983568

I love how this guy is so precise in his hits, you can see how he never mashes haphazardly. You see him waiting at split second moments so he can land ALL his hits. That's insanity.

This makes me wish I was a Hammer user, but precision hits are not my forte.
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>>140999587
Shotguns don't shoot grenades you silly gypceros
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>>140999320
Thanks a lot.
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mhx hr unlocked turns
38-3927-8068-8489
pw rage
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What's the best MH to emulate?
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>>141001746
All of them.
Play them all at the same time for bonus hunt points.
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>>140991168
>Look it up in the archive
>All that cancer
Eugh
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>>141001746

FU and P3rd.
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>>141001746
Tri
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Is there anything comfier than hunting Jho while eating pickles?
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>>141011181
The back of Miss Cat's throat.
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>>141013890
Are you a pickle anon?
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>waiting for duramboros to do his sweet flip so I can mine his tail
>he starts spinning
>finally!
>he does the slide instead of the sweet flip

I love this monster but I hate this shit.
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Do Nyanters get skills based on armor or can I dress to impress?
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>>141015940
You can dress to impress.
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How long until Blanche hits 999 in mhgen?

Hedge your bets
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>>141016475

Me-wow! Looks like I'm going to play as a Nyanter fur-ever!
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I like this image a lot.
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>>141020493
Me too.
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Whose bright idea was it to localize a monster's name as barroth and another's as barioth in the same game that they were both introduced? And whose bright idea was it to exclude both of them from games after 3U?

Also I'm severely lacking in cute pictures of both of these monsters, so I'd appreciate some help with that.
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>>141021414
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Came up with a new set for Steve gunning that stacks Normal Up, AuXL, Challenger +2, and Evade Dist (as much as people say it's not needed for LBG, I like having it because it's saved my ass so many god damn times from charges/attacks that would have hit me had I not had the extra distance)

And it's fashionable as fuck too. Nephilim is one stylish chest piece and Esurient goes with everything.

Grand Hermit Mask
Nephilim Vest
Grand Crusher Braces
Esurient Coat Z (or anything with Torso Inc)
Nephilim Leggings
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+7 Evade Dist, +14 Attack OOO
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2x Forceshot Jwl 3
1x Spirit Jewel 2
1x Attack Jewel 1
2x Forceshot Jwl 1
1x Jumping Jewel 2

I could even switch to a normal HBG with this set so it's pretty universal as far as a set goes.
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>>141021414
ボルボロス
(Boruborosu)

ベリオロス
(Beriorosu)

I HAVE NO IDEA, sure it's not Happu -> Nibel or Dara Amadyura -> Dalamadur/ Garara Ajara -> Najarala but that was pretty stupid indeed.

>>141021793
If you're needing evade skills on LBG that means you're too greedy.
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>>141015940
Fashion Nyanter all the way.

Kinda wish they gave cats actual range weapons instead of just boomerangs, I want a cat-sized panzerfaust or something that isn't the Gravios club.
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>>141021793
>And it's fashionable as fuck too. Nephilim is one stylish chest piece and Esurient goes with everything.
This is a joke, right? The only reason I have any doubt you're joking is that you didn't say that rajang pieces round out any set's aesthetics perfectly.
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>>141022070
>nephilim
>not stylish
If you mean the male set yeah it's garbage but the female one is pretty nice, the cloak is better than the ugly ass taped on wings the male set has
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>>141022361
The female one is the worse of the two, dude. Your taste is shit. Also the male set isn't even called Nephilim, it's called Chaos. And neither one has wings on the gunner version, both have wings on the blademaster version. How does one person manage to be wrong about so many things at once?
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>>141021793

>Steve LBG
>That "fashion"
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>>141022671
Name a better normal LBG then
auto reloads are also baller as fuck, so you probably can't name a better one
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I remade all the weapon guides for 4U + a general combat guide.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GMx1s0P8zszxpBbKLjOE-qgq5td8XDidsJHNmTqo0T8/pubhtml
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>>141023021
>using normal LBG at all
Seregios LBG is good only for slicing. Use HBG for normal.
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>>141023121
Seems like none of the images are showing.
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>>141026014
Should I upload the .pdf? How is it going to end in the pastebin if that happens..?
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>>141026165
Well I can't tell if it's just a temp Google problem or what. Maybe just see if they come back or work on a fix? I like the overall concept, definitely adding this to the pastebin. Kind of considering it different to the 101 guides for now.
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>>141023121
I'd reccommend adding Akantor Chaos bow to the dragon bow list.

Victory and Glory is better *if* you have a good powercoating charm, otherwise it takes 7 slots to gem in and can singlehandedly butcher an otherwise incredible armour set.

That's basically my only complaint. Great work anon.
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>>141026165
I noticed when you take pubhtml off the url, it makes you sign in, then denies access. So most likely the problem with images is simply a problem with your current access permissions.
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>>141026505
Oh looks like it got away, I'm pretty sure it put it on the list.
>>141026371
I'll reply to my original post and yours when I find a solution, shouldn't take too long.
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>>141026926
Btw, Chernobog's Scythe is easily the more noteworthy sleep CB.
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Is Partbreaker worth using on guns if I already have enough attack stacked?
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>>141027856
You never have enough attack stacked.
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Why are there so many cheaters in 4U at this time of day? Is it a popular time for the french or something? The elder hall is like 50% people that don't even have unlocked hr, let alone a g1 permit, and every single CB I see is a g1 with full white fatalis shit and a white fatalis CB.
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>fighting monster
>last minute of a fight, he was already dead i could sence it
>lol game was closed, press home to ebin
>mfw check all milkshakes
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>>141027960
>Challenger +2
>Attack up XL
>Normal Up

Yeah I think I have enough, only way I'm getting more is food skills, drug/pills, and horn songs, I'm just looking for a 4th skill for this set.

I have enough points to get Latent Power +2 as well with this other talisman I have but I think that gets overridden by Challenger.

So basically I'm leaning towards Partbreaker and Evade Extender since those talismans (with Attack +14 in the second slot, both OOO) are what I've got that will work with this set.
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>>141028241
Crit if LBG
EE if HBG
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>>141023121
>Don't diss mixed sets because they look bad or because of some stygma, mixing armours is part of the fun and having many different sets for many different purposes is fun and will make your life more enjoyable. Don't be that hunter that complains about everything running around in a full set. Of course you can use full sets but don't settle for them.
Kill yourself my man.
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>>141026371
>>141023121

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GMx1s0P8zszxpBbKLjOE-qgq5td8XDidsJHNmTqo0T8/edit?usp=sharing

What about now?
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>>141028528
Fug, no good expert charms

EE it is I guess then, then at least the set will be easy to use with both LBG and HBG
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>>141028795
looking good
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>>141028241
>Yeah I think I have enough

I was going to link you my favourite sub-3 (sub-2? I forget) Zinogre vid, but
>Video not available
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>>141028968
Guns will never reach this level of stupidity though
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>>141029043
>751 true raw
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>>141029043
>Class modifiers: The JPG

I'm going to take an educated guess and say that the weapon is the Akantor SA?

Not saying that 483 true isn't good, but blue sharpness brings it down a little bit.

Kama with AuL, Rapid up, Attack hone and Heroics reaches 504 (unless i fucking suck at simple mathematics) and that's before you account for power coatings OR critical distance.

Checkmate atheists.

Weapon wars get us nowhere
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>>141028968
Would you like a HH video instead? This one always makes me happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4OkVjecgwE
Or what about a disco Brachy theme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR7ChWwjnJQ

>>141028795
Great guide
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>>141029656
SA's class modifier is 5.4 so it's actually >>141029402

Bow is potentially the most powerful weapon with all these modifiers.
Imagine a level 3 and 4 spread 5 power shot bow with Kama's stats (and blast) stacking raw, heroics and songs like that guy?
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>>141030123
>I actually DO suck at simple mathematics
How on earth did I manage to read 5.4 as 8.4?

My bad anon. But yeah, relic bows are fucking beyond god tier. Too bad i'll never get one.
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>>141030318
I want a save editor to build that bow.
With Power Coating Boost
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Which one of these don't stack with the others?
Fleet feet - Attack up (x) - Challenger
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>>141030452
Challenger overrides Fleet Feet, Attack+ stacks with either of them. It even says so right here in this Hon (Book).
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>>141030452
Check the fresh guide.
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>>141030603
>>141030724
Thanks. I had no idea there was tabs with all the weapons as well. It was somewhat hidden in plain sight.
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>lance user joins the 140 double jho room i'm in
>lance guy is about to go for pokes on its breasteses
>i send him flying with the axe from my switch axe just as he starts
>sorry! :^)
>one Jho is down in a pit trap
>lance guy starts to go ham with the pokes
>i roll in and start my slash combo then burst tripping him constantly
>whoopsie daisies. didn't see you there XDDD
>jho rears up to do dragon breath
>lance guy stuck right in front but will probably block it
>i quickly roll to him then trip him with a slash then evasion +3 to safety
>oh how careless of me XDDDD
>he carts and then disconnects
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>>141030452
is narga armor good for gunners anyway
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>>141031821
SA users are the worst.
>Hey everyone, I do no damage, please carry me
>by the way I'm going to make that as hard as possible for you by tripping and launching you constantly :^^)
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>>141032000
It's okay.
No offense, too much evasion.
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>>141031821
>i am bad at switch axe
it shows
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Generations when?
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>>141031821
>Trying to get better with LS
>Teammate is getting picked on really badly by Azure Rath
>See the swoop -> fireball unblockable combo start, know he's going to cart
>Unleash my spirit finisher at the perfect moment, slamming Rath in the head, getting red buff in the process, and also tripping my shitter teammate, giving him enough i-frames for the fireball to pass through him harmlessly

Sometimes being a weeb just feels so good.
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>>141032343
End of Summer.
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>>141032343
When blanche stops playing 4U :^)
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>>141032007
The worst is anyone who joins a 140 room and doesn't bring either an IG, GS or CB with a min-maxed set to go with it. It's a straight kick from me with no explanation if anyone joins my room without one of those.
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>>141033350
I can't believe there are people using anything but 18k+ blast DB.
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>>141033350
Dunno if you're mocking my disdain for SA or genuinely just retarded, but in four-person 140s using pretty much anything but SA, GL and arguably LS is fine. The problem with GL and SA is that they do almost no damage, they aren't good for applying status or KOing/exhausting monsters, they don't benefit the team in any way, AND on top of all that they are extremely disruptive to anyone that isn't a gunner, and make lance and sns (both of which can achieve solo times on-par with CB in some GQs) completely unplayable.
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>>141034160
>sns
>achieving the same time as cb in some gqs
Poor bait my man.

In my experience, DB and Hammer users have always been far more annoying, bad, or disruptive than any GL or SA user. Most Hammer users abuse the fuck out of golfswings, never maintain good stamina and get carted, or just sit back and wait until the rest of us topple the monster until rushing forward and fail to score a KO because they don't know how to hit the fucking head. And DB users just dance, do no damage, and die.
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>>141034765
>abuse the fuck out of golfswings
That's how you're supposed to play.
see>>140983568

Also
Lv. 140 Deviljho
GS = 7:52
LS = 10:40
SnS = 10:01
DB = 8:54
Hammer = 13:08
HH = 23:26
Lance = 13:46
GL = 14:52
SA = 13:06
CB = 10:44
IG = 7:27
LBG = ---
HBG = ---
Bow = 23:49
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>>141034765
>hammer
>disruptive
Man, just stay out of his way.
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>>141034939
Not that guy you replied to, but I've never bothered to look this up.
>HH = 23:26
>Bow = 23:49
>LBG = ---
>HBG = ---
Thanks for giving me a hearty kek and another reason to not become a guncuck
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>>141035098
>just stay out of SA and GL's way XDDDD
And besides, you illiterate pimply cuck, that's not the only reason I hate Hammers, read the fucking post.

Inb4
>i-its different!
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>>141034939
Is lance that bad?
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>>141034765
>Poor bait my man.
Its best time on atwiki beats CB's on 140 Deviljho, and is within a minute or two on a couple of others.

>DB and Hammer users have always been far more annoying, bad, or disruptive than any GL or SA user
Absofuckinglutely not. DBs are extremely disruptive especially if you're using lance, but even then they don't come close to the disruptiveness of GL or SA. Hammer has a short reach and a harder time with getting tripped than with hitting other players. DB players often suck but hammers are usually skilled in my experience, and DB beats out even GS on quests where it can maintain pressure, coming close to IG times. And as with disruptiveness, while DB players are often shitters, they pale in comparison to SA users especially.

>>141035230
Bow and HBG dominate some hunts, Jho is a bad fight for gunning. In fact Jho being added to the list of 140s with TAs in most weapons knocked bow's overall average down significantly and bumped it down a few ranks.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/762804-monster-hunter-4-ultimate/72936200
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>>141034939
Yeah, sure, the nigga's doing it solo, he can do whatever he wants. But when you're in my room or another person's, it's pretty fucking obnoxious being canceled out of Lv3 charge. I've had the rare, say, CB user trip me, but even then they almost never cart and participate well. Hammer users never know how to get anything done.

Interesting on the time rankings, but I'd like to see a few others before I correct myself.
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>>141035875
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/762804-monster-hunter-4-ultimate/72936200
It's usually very good but being forced to use crafted Lance is a big issue.
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>>141035978
>being forced to use crafted Lance is a big issue
Why are craftable lances so shit anyway? What was capcom thinking?
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>>141036150
"lol fuck balancing crafted weapons they'll use relics anyway"
This is how you end up with broken shit like Dios DB or Kama Sedition
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>>141036268
>Kama Sedition
Still better than any relic bow much of the time. Fuck that piece of shit.They could have made the gimmick that rolling then charging skipped you straight to charge level 2 and it would have had a similar gimmick to every other steve weapon and wouldn't have been overpowered, but no, let's just give it better raw than literally any other bow including the relic godbows you have to grind the hardest quests in the game many times for, the best arcshot and some extra power coatings.
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>>141035913
I don't care if guns are bad against Jho, guncucks are still having good times getting rightfully taken away by the superior blademasters.

I hope in the next generation they introduce a monster that takes almost no damage from guns so that they all get kicked down to D rank. I always kick gunners from my rooms anyway because they're probably twink emo cocksuckers that always fag up the hunt lol
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>>141035875
Nah, just low damage
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>>141036676
>a monster that takes almost no damage from guns

You mean this guy right here?
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>>141035875
Sometimes (most of the time). It's pretty good against Gore, Shaggy and Chameleos. In fact chameleos is interesting- Descending order of times on atwiki is
1: Insect glaive, 8:14 (of course)
2: Dual blades, 8:16 (surprisingly close)
3: Charge Blade, 9:52
4: Sword and Shield, 12:10 (unusual to see it ahead of GS in 140s, where it can't use stylish bombing effectively)
5: Lance, 12:22
6: Greatsword, 12:45 (unusually low)
7: Gunlance, 13:35 (unusual for GL not to be in the last three places and lag behind others in time noticeably)
8: Hammer, 13:56
9: Longsword, 14:30
10: Switchaxe, 15:15
11: Hunting Horn, 18:41
12: Bow, 18:46 (very unusual for it to be in last place)
There are no chameleos runs for LBG or HBG.

I suspect the weirdness in Chameleos times may be because there aren't many submissions since it is more of a pain than most 140s and less predictable in general, doesn't give as many good relics as rajang so there is not much incentive to practice it, and is not a popular monster to begin with.
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>>141036150
>>141035978
>>141036268
is it still worth to get into lancing with crafted lances? I'm getting a full elemental setup since I'm still HR
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>>141038960
see>>141028795
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>>141038960
It's fine for learning lance, it's one of the better weapons if you want to go elemental (one of the reasons lance does poorly in 140s is because it relies heavily on element and for apexes you have only two wystone slots and have to choose between force, drive and elemental for elemental weapons that aren't LBG; Apexes don't take elemental damage unless you have the elemental wystone active) and in high rank weapons tend to be a bit more balanced than in g rank where differences in weapon class power begin to become extremely noticeable. It's a fun weapon and cool aesthetically, albeit a bit tough to get good at imo and also sort of crutch-y (its main gimmicks are that it does stabbing damage, which is cutting OR impact depending on which hitzone is weaker, and that it has both a very strong shield and a triple backstep that can get connected iframes with e+3, giving you nearly two seconds of invulnerability).
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>>141034939
>>141038836
Why is SA doing so poorly? It's only a for-fun-weapon for me, but I would have thought it would do better.
And why are there no HBG on these lists?
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>>141039382
>Why is SA doing so poorly?
Because it has absolute garbage damage. Its MVs, especially in sword mode, were nerfed in 4U. That's just in solos too, it's so disruptive that usually when an SA leaves an online room times go DOWN rather than up with fewer players.

>And why are there no HBG on these lists?
Guns are already harder to solo with than blademaster weapons and bows, since hbg has very poor mobility and gets glued in place during a lot of slow animations while lbg is glued in place for rapidfire. Ammo is also a concern with these weapons, and in 140s monsters have triple health; It's not as bad as stylish bombing (which literally cannot do more than 25-30% of most monsters' health before running out of bombs in solo 140s, but on the other hand SnS is also a very solid weapon without bombing), but it's still a concern. In hame runs you have three HBGs crouchfiring pierce s, and they each use about 40 to take down a rajang, which actually has fairly low base health. That's 120 pierce s with the best possible pierce hbg and all skills focused on damage to take down a rajang, and you can carry half that as a lone gunner.

Even despite that, in hunts where there are gunner submissions HBG usually does extremely well, but there are many monsters that bowgunners apparently won't even attempt solo.
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>>141039917
Oh and it should be noted that's around 120 pierce s to take down a rajang in a dual monster hunt, so it only has 2.7x health instead of 3x, and capping it after that instead of killing it so slightly less again.
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Shagaru SnS or W Fatalis SnS?
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>>141040818
Teo Sns
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>>141040818
Craftable elemental SnS is worthless. Go Teo or Tigrex unless it's for aesthetics and you don't like the paddle.
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>>141039917
Thanks for the neat writeup
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>>141040916
>>141040991
Answer the question.
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>>141041191
Shagaru because it looks better.
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>>141023121
Still slowly going through this between doing other shit. On SnS's tab you talk about the options from the backhop, you should mention that you don't need to take the full time to charge the full time to do the charge attack but can do it as soon as your hand starts to glow. The full charge time appears to be to wait for an opening, since you possibly backhopped to avoid damage.
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>>141042854
>you don't need to take the full time to charge the full time to do the charge attack
wow what the fuck happened there

meant you don't need to take the full charge time to do the charge attack.
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>>141023121
Evade extender should be nice to have for the HH. It's easier to stay near the face when you can dogde more effetctive
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>>141023121
>>141042854
Also your description of weakness exploit is a little misleading. It's not 5% more damage, it boosts the hitzone by 5. On a hitzone of exactly 45 that's 11% extra damage. Depending on the monster it can be one of the most valuable attack boosting skills- Gore Magala comes to mind.
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Connecting with the two hits of the SnS charge literally requires you to be under the monster. It's kinda dumb.
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>>141023121
In the IG guide you say that kinsect charging takes 8 seconds without charge down, it actually takes only 3. Charge time down bug is additionally the only one that you can manually charge while it's in the air already.

You also didn't mention how kinsect element works, or much about how the kinsect works at all. For example you can give the kinsect directions while it's already in the air, even if it's still on a trajectory from your previous command, which is useful for adjusting its course to hit monsters or for shooting parts on the far side of the monster if an extract is being elusive; Every third time you do this without the monster bouncing on something it will do a charge shot automatically; Charge shots have innate pierce; The damage from elemental is actually 2.5x the displayed number, not 0.1x as with most weapons, meaning you're better off adding an element matching the type of the glaive than more power; If you mark a target and release the kinsect it will hover around the target, which can be circumstantially useful when your triple buff is going to run out soon; and elemental damage receives a 1.5x multiplier from charging the kinsect. [Stat] up large on the kinsect also means 1.14x that stat, while all stats up boosts every stat by 1.1x.

Additionally the pheremone shot can stagger allies and potentially get them killed, but it also has extremely long range and a mostly straight trajectory so it's great for knocking allies out of stuns, and the midair shot propels you backwards and can be used to physically move yourself out of the way of an attack that begins when you're already in the air.

Lastly after the double slash you can press a for the slam. x-x-x-a works as an infinite combo that moves you forward more and looks cooler at the expense of some damage, useful for slight repositioning.

>>141045841
Not always but most of the time, yeah. The real challenge is landing the first hit on the head for negligible stun.
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>>141043121
>evade extender HH

Still not a thing, no matter how much you try to make it. Not saying it's not fun, but it also doesn't belong in a guide really.
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>>141043121
Who is this semen daemon
I'm talking about the trumpet, I've never seen it before
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>use weapon with higher raw but less poison on Kush than I usually do
>he goes into black wind before I can trigger the poison
bravo, great design
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>>141047198
Git gud. Staggering Kush removes one level of wind and mounting it removes wind completely, poison just prevents it from reaching the black wind stage to begin with. You can still attack its head, back legs and tail while it has black wind up.
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>>141047478
The cunt literally refuses to come down for a good 20 seconds when he has black wind.
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>>141023121
In the lance guide you say backhops don't put out fireblight. As with DB's demon dash, they do, you just need to do twice as many of them. Two rolls and two backhops/dashes for instance would put out the flames, or six backhops, or three rolls. I also don't think you even mentioned dashes/backsteps' interaction with fireblight on the pages for DB or GL.
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>>141048265
Flashbomb or mount it then. It's not like rathalos where literally all he does in the air is rotate back and forth and teleport around so he's impossible to flashbomb.
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Should I weakness exploit my normal hbg?
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>>141006558
I want to give Pink Rathian a big wet adult kiss!
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>>141048452
I don't rely on crutches!
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>>141023121
For Kirin you should mention its low Blast tolerance and buildup. Blast rapes it.

And that's it for corrections/suggestions I have for things I know a good bit about.
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>>141028795
About Status Crit in Bow and HBG/LBG (seems copy pasted for every weapon eitherway), Status coatings and status shots deal status as long as they hit, so you're only dealing with crit chance.

Still a very gimmicky skill.
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>>141048760
Of fucking course dude. Weakness Exploit is basically a Normal HBG/Rapid/Spread bow skill.
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>>141055524
It would be amazing on lance if you could draw into the charge. 1/3 flat chance of every hit in a charge being a crit boosted status infliction.
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Did they fix GL in MHX? Is it good, or at least decent?
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>>141056485
According to gaijincunter it was actually nerfed. I was under the impression the heat gauge was a buff but I guess it's the same way there's a sharpness+2 now but actually sharpness+1 was just nerfed and +2 is the same as old +1.
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I just noticed that Caravan 6* is supposed to have Kirin, Brachydios and Dah'ren as Urgents. I never got any of these, but to be fair I didn't touch 6* since I heard it was just those advanced quests and they were tuned to be HR difficulty.
I'm 7*, should I do them or would they be too difficult? I'm not sure when I'm supposed to unlock those low rank monsters.

Thanks.
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>>141056663
Do them. It's high rank damage/health but low rank movesets iirc, they fall sort of in between and closer to high rank. Better to do them in appropriate gear than come back and stomp them in overleveled gear so they're meaningless later.
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>>141028795
Shit, all this time I was under the impression that Artillery Novice+Felyne Bombardier reached the 1.4 cap for Artillery damage.
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>tfw only use Switch Axe
>had to learn shitty weapons like IG, GS, and CB to grind for relics
>every time I go to triple charge with GS, or build charges with CB, some faggot SnS, DB, or Lance runs up and knocks me out of it

This is what made me stop giving a fuck about tripping people. Fuck Lance users, fuck SnS users, FUCK DB YOU SPINNING TOP PIECES OF SHIT. At least with SA I attack consistently and it's 100% shitter proof with all the super armor it has. Kill times are good too I might add, when the shitter randoms aren't triple carting like a bunch of faggots.
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>>141058010
There's no way to knock someone out of charge with DB.
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>>141058010
>shitty weapons like IG
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>>141058338
DBs were more of a problem for CB, I can't get to red shield without getting tripped a dozen times. That said, I hate every weapon not named switch axe so I'm always looking for a reason to call every other weapon shit.
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>>141058010
>DB
You're lying. Lance and SnS both have attacks that can knock players down through poise, though SnS should never use them and lance should use them sparingly unless they're targeting a retarded SA, but DB has nothing of the sort.
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>>141059436
see >>141058607
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>>141057349
>>141028795
Wait wait, on CB it says Artillery is 1.15>1.3>1.4 and that Bombardier is 1.15, also that Novice+Bombardier caps it.
But in GL it says that God+Felyne caps it 40% (30%+10%/1.3+1.1).

Which one is true?
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>>141059541
>That said, I hate every weapon not named switch axe so I'm always looking for a reason to call every other weapon shit.
Yes, we can all tell you're futilely trying to justify using the worst weapon in the game in multiplayer.

>At least with SA I attack consistently and it's 100% shitter proof with all the super armor it has.
This also isn't true, an heroic lance or gunlance can shut you the fuck down. The main purpose of a lance or gunlance in multiplayer is keeping switchaxe away from everyone else, in fact.
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>>141059952
Both are, the modifiers are different for GL and CB.
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>>141060421
That's why I go out of my way to teach shitty lance/gunlance players to leave their shitty, easily tripped weapons offline. I make damn sure to make extra use of the hack n slash morph combo, and the A--->X combo to make their lives a living hell.

Also I don't give a fuck single player or multiplayer, I use SA unless it's a coordinated HAME run with GS on Jang or something.
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>>141060772
>these are the only people that can stop me from being a shitter! I'd better be extra shittery when they try playing nicely and not targeting me!
Good job retard. Good thing a smart normal gunlance can blast an sa all the way out of the area and then protect the entrance 90% of the time, and since neither weapon contributes shit for damage it will still help times more than hurt them.
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>>141060715
So the Artillery skillset is different for every Crag/CB/GL/Ballista?
What would be the recommended level+bombardier for each?
I'm guessing it is God+Bombardier for a shelling GL, novice+bombardier (if at all) for CB.
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>SA and GL user arguing which is the shittiest weapon
Kek, both are worthless, give it up guys.
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>>141061212
I'm not a gunlance user, I just respect any GL willing to devote themselves to SA-fucking duty.
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>>141061078
>spamming blasts in the middle of a monster
Well, It's pretty clear where the real loss in DPS is
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>>141061367
>repeatedly charge blasting away from the monster is in the middle of the monster
lol

a good gunlance only blasts up or when nobody is around, but of course good gunlances are just slightly more common than good switchaxes
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>>141061638
>gunlancers
>common at all
>good

Most pack up their weak as hell weapon that spends 3/4's of a fight on their ass. I see a lot more SA users, and most of them are pretty good. I don't get that many upswing/burst abusers.
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if capcom didnt want me to trip you, they wouldnt have put tripping in the game
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>>141061638
>said someone who is ignorant in both GLs and SAs
You are supposed to be on a weakspot like any other weapon and shell there (upwards).

Only thing that's too disruptive to do near anybody is slam>shell and WF.
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>>141061852
>gunlancers
>common at all
Didn't say they were common, said good gunlancers are MORE common than good switchaxes. That is to say, they actually exist.

>Most pack up their weak as hell weapon that spends 3/4's of a fight on their ass
Whoah, are you saying the kind of people drawn to GL are polite and/or smart enough not to use it in multiplayer, while the retards drawn to MUH SWAGAXE XDDD aren't? I didn't know, thanks!

>most of them are pretty good
Lying is a sin, you'll go to hell. There's more wrong with SA than just the upswing and burst. Even weapons with poise can't get close to the monster without using combos that move them forward through SA's stupidly large arcs.

>>141062145
>You are supposed to be on a weakspot like any other weapon and shell there (upwards).
>Only thing that's too disruptive to do near anybody is slam>shell and WF.
Which is what I said you do away from everyone else. It's not like what I said was complicated or anything, literally
>only blasts up
>or
>when nobody is around
This implies when people are around it's still okay to shell upward, and it's only okay to shell the ground (fullburst, wf) when nobody is around.
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>>141062030
Capcom doesn't want you to use switchaxe anymore but didn't want to lose sales from idiots that use switchaxe by just removing it from the game, so instead they nerfed it into the ground. Previously it tripped a lot as a balance measure because it actually did some damage.
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>>141062487
Why am I even arguing with you about SA, I don't even hunt with you faggots.
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>>141058010
Have you been charged that much by lance? Or did it happen that one time, and you've been angry since?
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>>141063859
It happens a TON more than you'd think.
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>>141063859
I charge quite a bit when I play lance but the only time I hit other players is when they are unfortunately on the other side of gog's tail or something or when we're all running toward the monster and they run out in front of me, which is their fault and also just means I propel them toward it quite fast anyway.
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why is there this much arguing over the switch axe?

if you like it, use it and keep phial bursts and hack and slash away from other players. if you don't, don't use it. why does everybody turn into an utter child whenever its brought up? is it guncucks at work again?
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>>141064621
Because the thread is dead as hell and arguments keep it from 404'ing. I hate that this is the case, but it's true.

Also switch axe is mai waifu, I fap to her almost daily.
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>>141064621
what >>141064887
said and also the fact that nobody actually does that. The switchaxe MO is run up to the head, launch the GS out of the way, start doing stamina slashes so nobody else can approach the head. Meanwhile it has the third worst damage of any weapon and doesn't even KO like HH.
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>>141065327
And HH bings out the buffs.
Hopefully

I do like SA though, it's a fun weapon, And there's something about the reload that I find neat. Also the x-a attack, isnt that still the best of dealing damage, except the axe-blender? HAvnt played it in a long long time
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I just did some arena for fun and I tried DS with Eva +1 and I didn't get hit more than five times (much to my surprise)
is this setup unbalanced or am I just better with it compared to other weapons?
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>>141066103
That X+A burst is a hindrance in solo and multiplayer except in very few cases, and in those cases you make damn sure no one is around.

1. You're trying to apply status.
2. Monster is escaping and you want burst damage.
3. For whatever retarded reason you've decided to go for an elemental SA build with element phial. Why would you do this to yourself?
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>>141066551
Oh, I meant the x-a-x-a-x-a combo, not the burst. Sorry for bad wording
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>>141066849
The x-a is your go to multiplayer combo because it's least disruptive. The strongest combo is A-X-A-X, but it trips like a motherfucker and you won't really be using this online*.

*Unless there's a Lance/Gunlance player present, then make them suffer
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>>141058010
>every time I go to triple charge with GS, or build charges with CB, some faggot SnS, DB, or Lance runs up and knocks me out of it
Now you know how it feels, SA shitter.
Mash your 2-button combo harder and pretend you aren't worse than LS. I have never had to compete for the head as a Hammer main except against cancerous SA users
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>>141067170
>Hammer main

Don't pretend you're some saint, golfswinging the impact CB user who can and does KO better than you ever will. I don't have to compete for the head as a CB user unless some faggot Hammer is around.
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hey wich games do you guys play to get your mind of mh once in a while?
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Today's issue: Partbreaker

Is partbreaker, in a roundabout way, one of the best damage skills in the game? By allowing you to quickly break all breakable parts, you can start focusing on the weak points much sooner, leading to significantly faster clear times. Of course, this only applies when you're trying to break parts.
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Hey, I need some mats to craft a set. If anyone could help I'd really appreciate it.

Room is 46-5962-3826-1475

Pass is 9876

It might be a couple rounds since I dont have G Rath parts.

Please and thanks in advance!
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>>141068384
I guess so. But if you're farming for anything but those 2% drops I don't see the point in sperging about reducing killtimes.

On certain monsters, like gold rathian, partbreaker is genuinely a great damage skill. On monsters with many breakpoints it's actually a useful skill because it forces staggers, but that's better for multiplayer.
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>>141068782
>Pass is 9876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-ah5xJz6ZU
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>>141068782
With a few seconds of research, you could have gotten some hunters, but I doubt you will now
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>>141069002
>>141069185

Fine, 7243 it is
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>400 hours in
>HR300
Babysteps ahoy
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>>141067880
It's the other way around for me. MH is a game that I can always come back to. It's my go-to game, which is somewhat sad as I have yet to recruit any of my friends. They got game like DayZ, World of tanks, Earlier FF games as their go-to-game.
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>>141069576
>670 hours in
>HR 340
But totally burned out of hq140s, so havnt done that too much.
But HR don't matter anyways. I will automaticlly think that a hr250 is better than a hr999 as there are bugged quests and such.
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>>141070321
I'm almost HR 800, and I've only done 5 136+GQs. Not really sure how people put up with apex bullshit.
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>>141042854
>>141043403
>>141048349
>>141052238
>>141055524
All fixed. Looks like I pasted from my outdated .txt
>>141046160
Those were so obvious I subconsciously forgot to write about them, getting on that right now.
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>>141071102
They're pretty comfy when you do them with a competent group and not randoms or solo. I've run I think around 50 with /mhg/ and we've failed like three, meanwhile I've run about 15 with randoms and succeeded two. Hame will forever be preferable though.
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>>141071772
I killed so many Rajangs, Jhos and the other popular with mhg, and it went good most of the time. Rarely had outright bad players with mhg. I want to try hame, never done it. Especially now that Im thinking of going full HBG in the future.
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>>141071102
It's not bullshit once you know how it works, the great new guide talks about it and it was really helpful, I cleared the Master's Test almost twice as fast because of how wrong I used to hunt Apex Monsters and now instead of hating them I actually think they're fun.
Except Diablos, fuck digging. Makes Brace mandatory.
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>>141073242
Apex is dumb an unfun.
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>>141073335
Read it and fight Apex Jho or Apex Zinogre, you'll see.
Slicing S makes apex its bitch.
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>>141072941
Hame is pretty fun and chill. It's not really easy though, it just looks easy. Once you have it down shit will most likely go smoothly most of the time, but occasionally RNG can still dick you, or one person's simple mistake can cost the group the hunt. It took my group like seven tries before we actually had a successful run where something didn't go wrong for stupid reasons. But when it works it feels great putting down double monster rajang 140s in three minutes over and over and swimming in relics.
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>>141070321
>only 670 hours in
>burnt out
You're weak
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>>141073660
Burnt out of HQ, you can only kill a Rajang so many times.
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>>141067390
>setting up golfswing with plenty of room for other players at the head
>CB user comes screaming in and slams his axe down immediately to my right
>is fucking shocked when my golfswing tosses him while he's revving
>posts on mhg about how annoying hammer users are

The hitbox with which a hammer will interrupt you is a tiny parking space by our right foot. If you come running into it while both the hammerer and the monster are fucking stationary, it's your own damned fault.
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>>141074087
Sure, if you're weak
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>>141074254
Anon, please don't expose me
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>>141073623
Might as well just save edit if you want to be swimming in relics. It's just a more efficient hame run tbqh.
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Does the caravan rusted daora quest never show up again?
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>>141075726
Nope, he comes for his revenge in G3*
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>>141069739
Literally me except I convinced a friend to try MH again tomorrow.
I shouldn't be this excited
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>>141074087
>falling for the rajang GQ meme
found your problem
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>>141076187
Good luck anon. I managed to convince the one friend that have a 3ds to buy it, he palyed it for 5hours and made excuses why he hadnt continued playing. I tried me best to be helpful, go on hunts, explaining and answer all the questions, but it wasnt for him.
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>>140876490

he's right you know, once you know the ledges, you know the ledges
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>>141076639
I tried to do the same thing the first time he played but he still just couldn't grasp it. It really doesn't help that he picked bow as the first weapon he wanted to learn.
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>capcom decides to not update mhfu for ios to ios 9
>bought the game a week before ios 9 came out
>try to play the game now it crashes everytime at startup
Fuck you capcom, you had a good thing going and you fucked it up
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>>141077930
>he didn't install the patch
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>GL's jumping shell into slam
oh god
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>>141077991
What ere you on about?
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MHX whatever

28-5744-8556-1780
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>>141075942
>tfw only managed to repel it
Black wind fucked me over. When/how/where do you bounce off him exactly?
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>>141081315
Everywhere but upper body and tail. use high Dragon/Water weapons and flashbombs.
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>page 10

Pull the plug
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>>141080842
OO-
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Going back to 3U for a breath of fresh air, was SA as shit as it is now?
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>>141085998
It was even worse.
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>>141085998
3U is very balanced, it's the game where SA, GL and HH are the strongest.
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>>141086182
>>141086220
I don't know who to believe
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>>141085998
In 3U all the weapons allegedly do close to the same dps on a stationary target but take that with a grain of salt because it's some bullshit that was said on gamefaqs or reddit after some merely cursory research.
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>>141085131
I just woke up and did all my morning stuff. Post again if you want to play!
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>>141087297
Hey mayne if you wanna do some X hunts make in a room in about 15 minutes and I'll join in for about an hour or so.
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How does anyone survive crown hunting, I'm so close, yet so far.
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>>141068384

If you're worried about your clear time, why are you breaking parts? Just hit the weak point. Nobody gives a shit if you cut the tail during a speed run.
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>>141088086
You hunt it on and off about 80 times then say to yourself "This is stupid. I don't care any more." and just give up.

You do still care though and it'll bother you to no end
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Besides Maestro, what are good mid to late game hunting horn skills if I'm using Seditious Steve? Haven't reached endgame quite yet and I'm a shitter so I'm stuck.
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>>141089171
Read the guide
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>>141089159
I only miss 4, all are 100+ monster hunted.

>>141089171
Razor sharp and any damage skill you can fit.
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Why do the Japanese always choose the worst gaijin names to use?
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>>141089342
Thanks. I haven't been in /mhg/ for nearly a year, and at the time the pastebin still referenced guides from mh3u

>>141089738
The only stuff I have left in guild atm is Guildmarm white mono, Funky Felyne Tigrex/Brute, Caravanner Mohren, and Ace Chamelios. Would Challenger or Au? give better damage? Is HGE worth the investment? Evasion?
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>>141092393
I dun gettit
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>>141093261
Have you ever met a Westerner named Gibson? It's like the Japanese watched hackers and thought we did LAST names FIRST.
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>>141093261
>calling your huntress Roseanne

You weren't alive yet during the '90s were you?
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would hunting horn be more common if it actually did damage or is the concept just too weird for people?
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>>141093231
It's fresh from yesterday, It's not in the pastebin yet, the link is here>>141028795
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Is it true that when Blanche uses his para dual blades when hunting with you it means he thinks you're a shitter that needs to carried?

A subtle sort of "fuck you" from him?
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>>141093231
I never picked up a ranged weapon before end game g-rank in 4u (played tri, 3rd, a little frontier, 3u all solo). And now I am considering switching hbg to be my main weapon. It's a lot of fun, hard to explain why, as in the simplest of terms it's just dodge, aim and shoot. It's the only weapon outside the native games that feel like a heavy bolter.
Evade extender is the only evade skill you should get
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>>141094045
10/10
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>>141093539
Gibson could be referance to lots of things, sci-fi and guitars comes to mind.
>>141093775
Why yes I was. I have friends from Hong Kong, and they get British names, and they are always the lamest British name from decades ago, Japanese don't have a good track record of using cool sounding Western names anyway
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>>141093779
It is satisfying to use though, no faults there
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>>141093779
They're just too shit/lazy to juggle BOTH hitting a monster and playing songs.
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I'm going to keep using GL and there's nothing you can do to stop me
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>>141097395

I can't stop you, but I can avoid playing with you.
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>>141097395
And I'm going to trip you all hunt with my proper weapon and there's nothing you can do to stop me!
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Man the discord really did a number on this general.

Now this place is deader than a skeleton while they've got 50 posts a minute going. And their rooms in X and 4U are multiple and always full.

They even talk shit about this place but most of it is true so it's not that big of a deal.

Why you still put those traitors in the pastebin I don't even know though.
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>>141094045
He uses them like 90% of the time and carts more than most people I've played with in /mhg/, including myself, so I'm gonna go with no, he just likes using them.
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Do I need to play the previous games to get into MH4U or MHX?
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>>141100138
>shitter in denial
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>>141100460
no but you should because they're good games too
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>>141100460
No. And If you're gonna start with X I'd say it's better to not play the older games.
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>go back to 3U for fun
>this fucking fixed vertical camera
>DB doesn't have the spin
>IG doesn't exist
what do I do
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>>141101254
Go fight clack clack, shitpost bird, and Barroth
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>>141101254
Make the gourd LBG and full Wroggi X then listen to that sweet plopping sound while taking down monsters.
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>>141100460
Ideally emulate 3rd then play 4u then X.
That way the only noteworthy monster you'd miss would be gobul. Get at least a bro to play 3rd online with you.
>>141101254
>go back to 3u
>Dem bow controls
>Monster changing areas ever 2 seconds
>Monsters sticking to zone transition hallways 24/7
God damn it. That said, I can't believe how much a I missed the ggis, these fuckers where fast as fuck.
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>>141101671
>Monster changing areas ever 2 seconds
>Monsters sticking to zone transition hallways 24/7

This quality gameplay along with bloated HP is back in X. Thanks, Ichinose!
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>>140857706
I know that feel
>need gore nyctgem
>4 man hunt
>Break horns, face, wings, cut tail and carve it, collect shinies
>30 hunts later
>Still no fucking nyctgem
>Finally get one on my 35th hunt.
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>>141102808
>do rare expedition for gore magala
>get nyctgem as a shiny
>do sovereign of the sky charm grinding
>get rathalos mantle from quest rewards
>every single dala hunt has rewarded me with a skyblade gem or dragonsphere
have you not learned by now that the only way to get something is to not want it?
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mazereon is pretty strong!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnoWHImYPww

Do you think Gaijin Hunter lifts too?
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>>141102808
it's a hollow victory. you finally get it, but you've wasted so much time. was it really worth it?
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>>141102184
>Go back to 3u
>Do the Jhen Mohran village quest with brachy sns. Finish it with no problems, fucker couldn't even reach the boat.
>>Inmediatly do the gathering hall one.
>Make a significantly better run, with 17 LBB+ and all the mean spirit I can't gather. Monster only manages to scratch the boat, but still only manage to repeal it.
>>Do the quest again, do everything even more efficiently and even get the fucker with the Dragonator 3 fucking times.
>only manage to repel it.
Holy shit, is the fucking repel thing broken or Gathering hall has the most retarded HP bars ever?
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>>141104413
>SnS
Found your problem.
Should've brought a HBG or GS.
You'll also want to grow some balls and attack it's belly to make it tip over.
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>trying to collect a bunch of craftable weapons
>it gives me the tutorial on upgrading glaives

it tuns out that in over 800 hours of play time, i've not once used or attempted to upgrade an insect glaive. i literally forgot it was an option.
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>>141105075
Worked too damn well before though, shit I had better armor for that one (sharpness+speed setup+bombardier on top of the skill I had before). Hitting it tummy was never a problem and yet the fucker wouldn't die.
Before you go
>village
The difference between it and hr gh should be just of 20% HP
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>>141105084
You're not missing much, it's a weapon for flamboyant faggots. Like lances or gunlances.
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Anyone down for some good ol 4u turns if I post a room? It's been months since I played proper due to Frontier, but its down for maintenance right now so I'm down to hunt anything really.
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>>141116136
C(unt) Fagalis
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>>141111406

How is lance flamboyant? It's probably the least flamboyant weapon in the game.
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>make a G-rank BM Garuga set they said
>it'll be a good armor they said
>success rate of event garuga 1victory over 8hunts
I'm dying
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>>141120229

Grab a GS and solo it.
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>>141119581
>that faggy run attack
>that faggy jump attack
>that faggy triple hop
>it's a phallic object
>attacks are thrusts

Yup, definitely the gayest weapon
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>>141123263

Yeah well you're stupid.
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>>141126940
It's not my fault you like weapons clearly shaped like dicks anon.
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>>141128317
It's not my fault you like dicks anon.
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>>141128527
Only when they're inside Miss Cat
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My heart
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>>141130740
Is that a peeking areola I see?
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What monster are horrible to evade lance?

>almost any monster that charges at you a lot, especially fuckers like Raths who do it kind of slowly
>super huge monsters with really big, slow attacks
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>>141132048
GQ magalas are misery for sure.

>shaggy's landmines
>chaos gores super strong projectiles that come from the opposite direction he's attacking you
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>>141132048
Tetsu, magalas, Gravios, Raths, Steve

Thankfully I can switch to guard lancing with some of these, guard lancing trivializes the magalas so hard thanks to the shield advance.
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>>141120229
Don't lose hope, the Garuga will mold you into a fine hunter with a bitching armor
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>>141132384

>Steve

Guard lancing him is even worse unless you're using dash juice. Even then, being in blockstun for a million billion jillion years sucks.

Just don't lance Steve, I guess.
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>>141133397
>>141132384
so what monsters are awful for lance?
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>>140886581

It was foretold! You would bring balance to /mhg/ !

CUTEPOSTING IS EVIL! You must see that!

>From my point of view the shitposters are evil!

Then you are lost!
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>>141133537

Besides Steve? Raths are pretty shitty in general. Guard or evasion, you can't really take advantage of lance's strengths against them; it often seems like the best you can do is sit right under them, poke their legs, and hope they don't charge. This is actually kind of effective against ones Pink Rathian, who can't handle being lanced in her nasty wyvern pussy, but then you have to deal with being right in the fuck you zone of the flip.

Smaller monsters like Great Whateverggis are kind of a pain too but those monsters are never much of a threat and aren't especially relevant.
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>>141133883

Oh, and Brachy. I can't believe I forgot Brachy, the ultimate bane of lancers.

>explosions chip through guard+2
>explosion hitboxes last too long to avoid with evasion+1

It's evasion+3 or bust on that asshole. But in 3U, before evasion+3 was a thing, you were kind of fucked. Maybe you could dodge through his explosions with evasion+2, but I never tried it, and if you can the timing is very tight.
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mh4u

Does anyone else have problems with accidentally hitting teammates with the SA? I'm trying to avoid hitting people but damn I accidentally scoop someone into the air at least once per hunt and feel like a waste of space.

I'm still kind of new to the weapon in general so that's part of it, but the axe of the SA feels like its so immensely long that accidentally hitting a friend is inevitable.

Also hunting with randoms is so weird. I haven't met a single English speaker that wasn't a friend from real life.

While I'm complaining, can someone tell me how to predict the charges of rathian/rathalos? Seems like they have no telegraph at all and I'm constantly scared to get hits in unless they start doing another animation of some sort. Shit, Rajang felt easier and more fun when I first hunted him than either of the Raths feel after hunting each of them and their variants dozens of times.
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>>141134361
You can generally tell if Los/Ian will change from a neutral stance based on how fast they turn when targeting after the previous move.
Faster generally means charge, slower means fireball.

Though it's not a 100% thing so in general just be on your toes when they are in a normal stance facing you.

It's also applicable to some of the Garuga instant charges, since the charge is only "instant" if you're standing directly in front of the monster and it doesn't have to turn beforehand.
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>>141130740
>liking that slut
She's so sleazy I get sympathy herpes just from looking at her.

>>141131624
Yeah, she moves around like she's constantly doing a striptease iirc too.
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>>141134361

Please do not use switch axe in 4U multiplayer. PLEASE do not use switch axe in 4U multiplayer.

I'm pretty sure there have been multiple discussions about this already in this thread, but in 4U switch axe has some of the lowest damage output in the game in addition to fucking over all teammates anywhere near you. It's so bad that a bad switchaxe user will make kill times go up. If you really want to use switch axe in multiplayer, do the axe mode running thrust and sword mode X > A > X vertical slash infinite. Nothing else ever.

Anyway, as for predicting Rath charges, you kind of can't. Once they turn towards a target, they're probably going to do it and you should expect it, but not always. Just get in the mindset of "it turned to face me so it's probably going to charge." They're gay monsters and they get gayer with every new game.
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>>141029043
How is attack that high possible? The highest I've seen so far from just inspecting other players in random rooms was a little over 2200.
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>>141134568
>>141134646
I'll fight some high rank raths in my g rank shit because I'm a pussy and don't want to get merked by these gay monsters to get gud.

If not SA, what would you recommend? I mained GS for like 250 hunts before changing to SA because I found the process of draw attack draw attack draw attack get hit because I tried to do a lvl 3 charge draw attack draw attack to be really boring.

The only time I have fun fighting the raths are with my friends because we've become so efficient at stunlocking things it's insane.

>farming g rank rath talons for a friend's gems
>2 switch axes and a s&s
>mount the rathalos, followed by it flying, getting flash bombed out of the sky, tripped, remounted, it trying to fly again, flashed, running into a trap, getting constantly flinched because of part breaks, tries to fly to another area, gets flash bombed AGAIN, and just gives up on life without having done a point of damage to any of us

And then I tried to use flash bombs and didn't land a single one and killed one of us because we were blinded by the light.
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>>141135179
>Play weapon in a boring way
>Find it boring

What a shocker.
It's completely your choice though, some people find some weapons far more fun than others.

Also, your story is why I never carry flashbombs anymore.
No one can be trusted with those foul things, not even yourself.
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>>141134693
It's possible to get with crazy attack stacking, like for example:

Attack Hone
AuXL
Demonpill
Felyne Heroics
AuL (Hunting Horn Buff)

It's impossible to get attack that high while in a lobby because heroics is never active unless you're out in the field and it's a 1.3x bonus. If those randoms had 2200 in the guild hall, that would be 2860 with heroics.

The hunting horn buff is also only available while hunting and it's 1.2x iirc. With heroics this would take 2200 up to 3300. And if you're a fucking madman you can throw a demonpill or powerseed on top of that.

Honestly a good HH user can make a hunt really comfy, with attack, defense, and status immunity for everyone. (provided they use the right horn for the hunt and are actually good at using it too)
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>>141135179

CB has all the cool factor of the other ridiculous anime weapons, but unlike the other ridiculous anime weapons, isn't shit.
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>>141135297
How am I meant to play GS? I just get punished for trying to land the bigdick hits. Feels like while a monster isn't writhing on the ground, I can't really afford the time to charge up a hit, even with fastcharge. Thinking I have an opening and then getting murdered by an attack that started after I began charging makes me want to run my DS over with a steamroller. Looking at you, Khezu.

>>141135452
I'll check it out, thanks.
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>>141135593
The big hits require a good amount of prep and forethought so that it lands just right.
Which is why a Gotcha Bitch is an impressive thing when preformed on an non-staged setting.

A good GS'er also plans to hit with the dead center of the blade so that you get the slight attack boost as well.
After that you either specialize into the Crit Draw focus where it's mostly draw charges which I find boring or learning to use all the charges, slaps, and follow ups the GS has to make and press openings.

Also Focus is pretty much necessary past low rank to help the charge times.

It's still something that if you find doesn't jive with you, you don't really need to keep going. Game has all the various weapon types for a reason.
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>>141135179
Don't quit SA because some chucklefuck says so, if you like it stick with it and get good. Not hitting teammates is mostly about positioning, if you see a bunch of assholes flocking to one side flock to the other. Avoid the X+A burst and axe upswing, those are always disruptive. As long as you do the vertical X-->A combo you're ok if you stay away from others. If there are lances/gunlances in your group you trip the fuck out of them because they are the worst kinds of faggots.

That said, you will inevitably have to pick up DB (status bitch), GS (dumbass dps bitch), IG (dumbass worthless mountspam bitch), HGB (dumbass ham run dps bitch) to grind GQs with down the road. At least to have a chance in hell with randoms anyways.
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I've always wondered why no one compiles a list of good & bad weapon/monster matchups.

Like for example Khezu being a pain in the dick to fight with most melee weapons but easy as piss with any ranged weapon.

Alot of effort always goes into matching weapons up with armour skills, but not monster matchups. Is this because of some kind of stubborn "You can solo any monster with any weapon!" mentality or simply because people can't be bothered? I feel like it could potentially help newer players quite alot if they feel like they've hit a wall.

What do you guys think? Is it worth it to put something together and stick it in the pastebin?
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>run up to a blue gathering spot
>it disappears

????????????????
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>>141136380
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>>141136380
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>>141135815
>>141136083
I think I may retry the GS and try and murder some things. With the hiatus from it, maybe I'll be able to do it from a different perspective. Still, SA kinda saved my enjoyment of the game, so I won't abandon it altogether. In fact I'll probably go back to it in short order because I get frustrated too easily.

I'll have to check out all of the weapons, too. I have tons of seregios and tigrex stuff laying around so I could make weapons if I wanted to after killing a few arena jaggis. Four melee fighting for a spot to hit on a Tetsucabra-sized monster is cancer so maybe I'll pick up bow or something.
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>>141135815
I landed my first hit like that yesterday against a G rank kecha wacha at the primal forest. It had just flew away to the middle zone and we all ran in. I saw it charging right at the entrance and managed to land a level 2 charge right on its face as it got close. Luckily it made it flinch so I didn't get hit doing it. I doubt anyone else saw the badass shit I just did but it sure made me feel good.
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>>141136653
The first ever Triple Charge into kill I ever did was a G rank Garuga in FU.

He was being a prick and doing the shovel beak move over and over again so I just started charging, yelled incoherently, and managed to land it square in his mug and he died.
The people I was hunting with all erupted into "Yooooo"s.

Admittedly I have far more failures where we both land hits on each other than the clean ones.
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I think I made a decent set out of Varia Suit for GS, but I'm not sure what skill to add with my 9 remaining slots. The options are as follows (also open to suggestions):

>add Tremor Resist (get locked into using Rogue Sedition)
>add Quick Sheath (locked into Rogue Sedition)
>add Sharpness+1 (can use Black Fatalis Blade)
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>>141136630
With the greatsword timing and positioning is everything. Hit hard where it's weak but don't get too greedy. It's better to land a level 2 than to miss or get knocked out of a level 3. Likewise if you have time for a level 1 charge then do that instead of an uncharged draw attack. Remember that you can delay your attacks as well, especially the end of combo roundslash after the big behind the back charge. Say you're in the sunken hollow and fighting tigrex at the canopy area. The team has knocked it into that state where it's stuck in the canopy and flailing around. You do your combo and land your second charge right as it escapes and flies up in the air. If you hit the roundslash immediately by mashing it out then it's going to hit empty air and miss while the tigrex is floating back down to land. If you wait a moment you can delay it and land the roundslash as it touches down. It's possible to lock the tigrex in a loop of being stuck in the canopy with good timing.
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>>141137053
quick sheathe unless youre fighting jang or jho
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>>141136839
I'm developing a fetish for these badass clash hits. I think I'll try them more often, detriment to the team or no. Nobody ever got good without getting hit and I want to get good at that shit.
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>>141137984
Oh that's always the best part.

When the GS has the assumption that a single hit will kill and they want to go Gotcha Fishing you'll see them run to the other side of the area and futz around until it either dies or they miss.

But remember, it's not a proper Gotcha Bitch without it being a full lv3 charge and the killing blow.
Extra points for it being the Smash Charge.
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Threw together that set an anon was talking about earlier, the Furious George arms clash pretty bad but everything else coordinates okay, esurient belt kinda sticks out since it has that pulsing effect on its colorable parts.

Maybe switch the arms for GX Hunter or Star Knight or something else that comes with points in Spirit (Crusher hands come with +7) and switch the belt, I picked high rank Vangis belt since it coordinates better.
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>>141138294
You can colour esurient black but it still looks bad with nearly everything, nephilim looks awful and of course the rape ape bits will always clash with anything that isn't also rape ape. If he found a way to replace nephilim with gravios chest it could be even worse though.
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Is there any good Teostra equipment in 4u?
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>>141139207
Teo sns
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>>141138396
I actually rather like the cloak on Nephilim, but then again I'm a sucker for cloaks period

Not sure what would be a better chest/leg piece combo that wouldn't break the set but would also go better with the head and arms, or alternatively, which head/arms combo.

Fashion hunting is hard.
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>>141138173
I want to see a gotcha kill on a fatalis that's doing that flying charge.
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Question Time.

What's the monster that you always go back and fight every once in a while to unwind/blow off steam?

Either because you enjoy the flow of the fight or just because it's super easy.

Personally, mine is Zamtrios. His regular moveset is unpredictable enough to force me to pay attention during the fight, and tearing into his fat gut is extremely cathartic.
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>>141140813
Zinogre. For fun I prefer Jho though.
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>>141140813
While I play sns very rearely, going into a Diablos fight with sonic and flash is a lot of fun. I like doing g1 monsters every now and then and just play around with some less used weapons. Jho is fun. I really miss some of the 3u monsters, the landbased ones at least
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>>141140813
Always and forever Kut-Ku.

I think I'm up to 300 now.
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>>141140813
zinogre because he is the easiest monster in the game
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>>141140813
Dala and Gore are both really fun for me.
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>>141140813
Used to be hammering Uragaan's face in Tri
Playing too many MHs now to have anything like that
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>>141140813
Dalamadur
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>>141120229
>doing event garuga for blademaster set
>think "this is easy"
>he goes frenzy
>triple cart

he broke me and made me humble
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>>141120229
>>141148256
Just do a GQ, the event one too big.
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HH mains, what are some good HHs I can make in High Rank, and possibly bring to max too?
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>>141140813
Khezu. With a proper armor set , the fight becomes stress free.
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>>141148639
Seregios
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>>141148639
Seregios is the single best craftable HH for general use. It has fantastic songs, great raw and never needs to be sheathed if you health hone it/don't get hit.

Other fun and fairly useful HHs you can make in high rank are Basarios, Teostra and Rajang/Black Fatalis (IIRC, jang might be G though).
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>>141150734
>>141150176
I used to play it in 3U so I'm a bit out of the loop. Is the Narga horn still good? What about the magical girl one from streetpass, is it still here?
Also, Dios and Rathian's bell still good? Is element something I shouldn't bother with, to try and get a good amount of elemental horns with good songs?
Thanks again.
I'm glad I have a GQ for Basarios so I can farm his mats.
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>>141151127
>Is the Narga horn still good?
I don't think it's actually in the game except as a relic skin. If you like the skin you're in luck because HH is one of the weapons where relics can completely outclass craftables.

>What about the magical girl one from streetpass, is it still here?
Upgrades from Bananahannabarbara horn.

>Also, Dios and Rathian's bell still good?
Yeah, they're pretty solid.

>Is element something I shouldn't bother with, to try and get a good amount of elemental horns with good songs?
I'd put elemental secondary to raw and good songs.
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I've been hearing a lot of people say sns is one of the best weapons in the game and what most experts use. Is that true? I can kinda see why a lot of better players would use it since they have good element/status and can proc a lot of hits while being versatile and mobile, but I'm kinda doubting it.
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>>141154249
"experts" just play weapons they like the most, like you should
stylish bombing is unique to SnS and very effective though
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>>141154249
IG and GS are undoubtly the best and pretty much broken in 4U.

SNS is the 2nd tier along with a few other weps.
So among the best
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>>141154373
>"experts" just play weapons they like the most
That's what I was thinking. In the grand scheme of things all the weapons pretty much balance out in terms of how effective they are, so it should just come down to which play style you prefer.
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What are some good DB for high rank in MH4U?
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>>141156916
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GMx1s0P8zszxpBbKLjOE-qgq5td8XDidsJHNmTqo0T8/pubhtml#
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>>141156976
recommended weapons are only G-Rank
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>>141157225
Go for Dios
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>french shitter asks for help
>it's fire drill
>sure why not
>he triple carts to stiggy ziggy within 10 minutes
>comes back into gathering hall and keeps spamming "fatalis" into chat while doing the stomp emote
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Came back to Monster Hunter after years of not playing it. Damn I took a beating, but it's cool. Also how do you equip bow coatings? its not working
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>>141158318
Fire Drill is a shitter wall to keep out scrubs that can't handle multiple monsters.
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>>141162609
Press X and A at the same time.
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Super Ukanlos is the hardest monster in the game.
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>>141166889
140 apex zinogre
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>>141167203
140 Zinogre is LITERALLY the Yian Kut Ku of Wyverns
EZ PZ
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>>141166889
Super Uka is easy as fuck compared to Bombs over Gog. I was only ever able to make one piece of GX Tempest in 50 attempts.
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>>141162736
Jesus, man. Fire Drill had me caught for ages to the point where I started actually playing online with randoms. Then someone would try to do it and we'd all fail.

Eventually I got sick of it and tried Fire Drill by myself again, did it first try after my online stint. God damn did it feel great.
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As a gunner, should i even bother trying to get mounts?
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>>141172306
If you have a good opening, jumping-reload is also great
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>>141154373
>stylish bombing is unique to SnS
It's most effective and efficient with sns, but not actually unique to it.

>>141154680
>In the grand scheme of things all the weapons pretty much balance out in terms of how effective they are
That isn't true. GS and IG are much, much more powerful than everything else and especially GS is also extremely easy to use without any prior experience. GL, SA and solo LBG (compared to HBG) and HH are all noticeably much weaker than everything else (in G rank; In low GL tends to be one of the better weapons and it's still pretty solid in high, but monster health inflates more than shelling damage does and monster openings to shell in become scarcer).

Otherwise I wouldn't worry much about balance. Personally I solo a fair bit with HH, and it's the weakest solo weapon so I'd say it's a fair assessment that you can solo with anything just fine, but I would never take switchaxe or gunlance to a multiplayer hunt that wasn't super easy, in a gimmick room or just dicking around.

Also there's a handful of kinsect TAs, including gogmazios, and I killed my first monoblos almost entirely with a kinsect, so even that is viable.

Also I don't know shit about it being a favoured weapon of "experts" but I enjoy using SnS more than most if not all other weapons, and other people I see using it are usually pretty good.
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>>141172306
For solo play I wouldn't bother unless it was a stipulation for a subquest. In online play it's guaranteed a blademaster will try to do it for you.
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>>141171842
fire drill walled me for months because i didn't want to play online. eventually i went online and shitters kept failing for me. after that i crafted those seltas db's and went nuts on them solo.
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>>141084772
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>>141139238
It's shit.
>>141139207
None of them, they have terrible raw.
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>>141158318
>keeps spamming "fatalis"
I don't get it, is this a french meme?

I help randoms with fire drill all the time. Since I got a nice water relic bow I usually bring that and go after brachy on my own while everyone spams pings on red zinfandel because 3v1 isn't enough for them. Usually it goes alright, if I'm not confident in the team I bring SnS or IG instead and go after Zin first.
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>>141173649
>GS and IG are much, much more powerful than everything else
>easy to use

So by definition these are shitter weapons. Fuck you and everyone that thinks like you. DPS bandwagoners are the fucking worst, going by a shitty GameFaqs tier list made up of average speed run times.
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>>141174687
Nuh'uh
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>>141174889
Crimson Fatalis(And Molten Tigrex, obviously) is blantantly better, even without the slots.
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>>141139207
All of it. The armour pieces will constantly crop up as parts of mixed sets, and also look great, while the fullset itself is decent and looks great, and uka-uka-u is better than either fullset and also looks better than both. All the weapons have very high blast, making them extremely effective for non-GQ multimonster hunts and especially expeditions, in addition to Kirin and any monster with lower than average health that again isn't in a high-leveled GQ. Obviously you don't want to use them for monsters with a lot of health (including ANY monster in a high-leveled GQ, once they hit 136 especially they get a 3x health modifier), since blast tolerance builds up and the weapons have subpar raw.

Only exception I can think of off the top of my head is the lance, which IIRC is actually the worst blast lance.
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>>141174852
Have you never used them/anything but them to actually compare? Speedrun times are irrelevant here. They are NOTICEABLY better than any other weapon. My personal times, hunting casually or seriously, with IG tend to be almost TWICE as fast as with any other weapon besides GS. Meanwhile I've only used GS for a few dozen hunts but I still get better times than with any other weapon besides IG, and constantly headsnipe with level 3s.

The fact of the matter is that 4U is HORRIFICALLY BADLY BALANCED. It's nothing to do with "you're shit if you use this weapon," it's "Capcom made this game badly so these weapons are absurdly powerful with no tradeoff while these other weapons are both clunky and do very little damage." I myself enjoy using IG greatly (or enjoyed anyway; Lately it's lost its appeal because the game just isn't challenging with it and I'm also just bored of it). Fortunately from what I've heard the balance is (mostly) much better in X/Generations.
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>>141175758
Exactly, 4U is terribly balanced. That's why I have no qualms about boycotting the fuck out of GS and IG.
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>>141171124
>Bombs over Gog
>Hard
You must be shit at the game, the only gogs that CAN hit you are the gogs with tar, it's literally impossible to get hit by anything but puddles against Gog.
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>>141176289
Don't forget that it always has it's massive Dragon weakness. You can stay on the arm-wings and absolutely rape it with a White Fatty/Shiggy weapon
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>>141176289
Puddles are more than enough, combined with the fact I have absolutely no idea how to fight gog when he's enraged. I just flail around like a fish and pray I don't get hit with the normal one.
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>>141176289
>gog goes for a big laser
>go hit his wing as usual
>whoops, looks like the laser was right right behind me actually
>cart
every time
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>>141176443
Pretty much, Gog is a joke (and a really fun one at that) shredding it with Dragon is the best thing in the game.
>>141176509
Stay on the wingarms. Roll towards the crotch if it swipes, roll out to the left/right if it slams.
>>141176518
If it stomps a wing it'll shoot the beam on hit, go to the other wing and you're safe.
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>>141176024
I guess I misunderstood your post or something. Anyway, "boycotting" them is also pretty dumb, but less than denying that they're OP I guess.
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>>141176289
>you don't have trouble with something I have trouble with but you have trouble with something I don't have trouble with so you're bad, haha
>>>/vg/dsg
Your community is over there.
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>>141176921
No, Gog is piss easy, I won't deny 140 monsters are "hard" but Gog, along with Dala, Ukanlos and other "hard" shitterwalls are piss-easy but overwhelming, they're only hard if you facetank them.
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>>141177083
>I won't deny 140 monsters are "hard"
Shitter.
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>>141176024
gs at least takes some amount of skill compared to meme glaive mount spamming. that shit gets so annoying seeing frenhies jumping around and when the monster is down they spend more time tripping teammates than hitting the monster.

but yeah, i pretty much refuse to use them as well.
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>>141177083
>I won't deny 140 monsters are "hard"
140s are easy compared to bombs over gog though. You're pretty shit at the game.
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>>141177291
>>141177204
Woah, and you're hameshitters, no wonder you struggle against gog.
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>>141177423
I only use solo gunlance for 140s, scrublord.
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>>141177592
Do you do anything besides butting in in other people's conversations and spouting memes?
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>>141177694
Yeah. Do you do anything but make Dark Souls Youtube comment-tier shitposts about how skilled other people who play a videogame are?
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>>141178264
Telling them how you can easily beat slow and clumsy monsters that aren't hard at all.
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>>141173649
>HH, and it's the weakest solo weapon so I'd say it's a fair assessment that you can solo with anything just fine
Apex 140 grank seems nigh-impossible with LBG and HBG with some mons
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>people still haven't figured out that GQs are poorly designed shitfests for autists
>it has been over a year and you still haven't crafted your endgame sets to just do the hunts you like
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>>141185965
The thing is, I don't like any quests in the game.
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>>141184693
Don't get me wrong, some weapons seriously struggle with some hunts. I just mean in general. Generally you shouldn't stick with just one weapon anyway, you should branch out into at least another to complement your main and if you're just using IG or GS for the whole game you're depriving yourself of much of the experience.
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>>141185965
>tfw already at that stage
>occasionally do turns with /mhg/ and friends and from that sometimes get a relic better than any craftable as a bonus
The only relics I'd honestly grind for are the rebellion armour pieces, but grinding relic armour sounds like something I'll only do when the only other alternative is suicide.
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Relic grinding is less brain melting than crown hunting.
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>>141188174
I really like SnS but it feels so slow compared to the GS.
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I need two last tickets to finish my Star Shitter set, anyone up to do a colorful feast twice?

ID: 64-0595-7534-4172
Pass: 7243
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>>141195261
Closing up.
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>la page dix
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>>141200412
discord killed the thread
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>>141202256
who?
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>>141202489
all 70+ people on discord for only using the thread to shitpost and posting on-topic in there instead of in here
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>>141202648
You are to blame as well.
Go and play MH you nerd. There is only a single room up in 4U with 2 people and a bot in it.
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>>141203060
>and a bot
My favourite meme hands down
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>>141196683
I managed to get the last two special passes by myself. That wasn't fun. That wasn't fun at all. That was 100% unfiltered stress.
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Why isn't the new guide in the pastebin yet?
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>>141205919
Learn to smash that mfing gate button in multimonster arena quests. Thank me later.
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>>141206279
The fence isn't available in a colorful feast. The master's test was easier. You can use the gate there and they have less health because it's single player.
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>>141207189
Huh, really? Anyway Seregios is weak to thunder and both monsters are easy kills, in that case just focus on Seregios's feet and try to bait zinogre into hitting it as much as possible to kill it first.
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>>141207189
Use smoke bombs, kill seregios first as it sees through smokes.
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>>140983568
They died quick, how strong is the golf swing?
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>>141212010
90
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>>141158318
>I'm the only one of my friends to do fire drill by themselves let alone first try no deaths
Are my friends bad? I know I'm not good, I just flail around with my dual blades but somehow I managed.
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>>141212190
>just shy of a GS lv3 slash
Goddamn, I see why hammer users always talk up the golf swing.
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>>140983568
>>
USA SERVERS MHO W H EN
MHG Q U A N D
MHG HD C U A N D O
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>>141215740
I had a dream in which MHX HD was a release title for NX. This is worrying because I have lots of premonitory dreams.
It was a nightmare because it wasn't MH5
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>>141215740
Tencent will announce at E3 along with PS4/Xbone versions.
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>>141215983
>MHX HD

That is a nightmare, it was so shit the first time I'd never wish it on anyone a second one.
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>>141216414
It runs so badly on 3DS they'll probably jump on the opportunity
Please don't
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