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>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX (embed)
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3 (embed)

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a (embed)

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E (embed)
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB (embed)

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v (embed)

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n (embed)

>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP (embed)
>System requirements
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_1920.jpg (embed)
http://gamegpu.com/images/stories/Test_GPU/MMO/DARK_SOULS_III/test/ds3_proz.jpg (embed)

Hallowed: >>138137530
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Can I make a cute girl in this game?
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>>138165585
ye
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>>138165585
naw
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Anyone else farming covenant items?
Shit is slow.
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all dat embed
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>>138165585
in DS3? They come out alright, though I had better results in Bloodborne
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>>138165585
I'd like to know this as well, is it the best Souls CC?
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>Trying to play pure sorc with no melee weapons
>Every enemy and boss is fast as fuck
I dont think this is going to work
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>>138165658
>bloodborne
>cute girls
No
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Faith and miracles scaling.


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12SWqLUYuJ2AMS0WBjYSL0IZr1reADaIm_tRmq-jZwrM/edit
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>>138165685
sorceries are completely fucked right now and you'll have better results with a bow build so yeah
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When can we expect a DS3 torrent? Is day 1 wishful thinking?
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>>138165620
>100 item discovery
>2-3 ears x hour
>435 item discovery
>3-4 ears x hour
wew
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>>138165748
day 2 hours is more likely
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>Patch 1.03 fixed the fps on PC. The areas where the fps was between 30-40 are now 55-60.

My fucking 560Ti has a chance!!
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>It was dead on release day. Ive had the covenant equipped for weeks now. Not one darkmoon invasion.
>darkmoon invasion
Skipped DkS2, I thought blades of the darkmoon functions exactly as a blue sentinel?
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>>138165748
Why would you pirate game where half of the fun comes from netplay?
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>>138165748
Depends if it uses Denuvo or not. If it does, then there won't be one anytime soon. If it doesn't use it, then day one, as usual.
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This game has very little actual content. 13 greatshields, 8 of them recycled from past games.


24 med shields. 20 of them recycled.

First time a new game has a full blown recycled moonlight weapon, no new model or look.

Game smacks of lazy. I hope the dlc is boatloads of entirely new shit and the main game is it for throwbacks.
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>>138165951
>using a shield and not 2-handing like a man
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>>138165853

No.
Darkmoons are like Blue Sentinel invasions, but the whole rescuing fair maidens gimmick is exclusive to Sentinels.
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>No blue eye orb to hunt sinners
>No retribution at all against sinners
>No consequence of sinning
>Killing merchants is rewarded
>No dragon eye for real 1v1s

Where the fuck is the content
Game is 80% Dark Souls 1, 5% Dark Souls 2
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>>138165951
>tfw haven't played previous entries
>tfw all this "recycled" content will be new content for me

feels good
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>>138165994

>Limiting your possible playthroughs to two handing naked girls every time

Nah
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>>138165840
That guy was getting 30 fps in some areas with a GTX 970, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>138165951
the mlgs is a new model though. it looks like DeS and DaS1 combined with BB's particle effects.
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>>138166078
>two handing naked girls every time
what
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VOTE for your preferred meta if you have not already

strawpoll.me/7254759/
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strawpoll.me/7254759/
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We'll never get Steam trading cards will we? I want a Souls badge.
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>>138166000

Wait, what do Darkmoons do then if they don't have an orb? Just guard duty?
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Is my character stuck looking like beef jerky forever?
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>>138165995
Forgot about that, it all comes back to me now when I offered those things to Gwyndolin in DkS1.
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Will agdaynes set ever come back? ;__;
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>>138166173
nah, get the purging stone candies, and heal your sigils.
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>>138166137
Wait, why do the beams consume durability when the Focus bar is a thing ?
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>>138166147
maybe i will when you stop posting shitty anime images right next to it because Im getting mixed messages
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>>138166137
> WEAPON AT RISK
HAHA

AHA

AHAHSHSHD D GGHCVHHF
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>>138166137
so it looks like bloodborne MLGS? no wonder people are saying it's shit now
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>PSN friend playing DS3
lucky faggot
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>>138166139

A jab at the elitism in the Souls community, especially here.

Anytime somebody posts anything other than the flame of the week meta, they get slammed with

>2016
>Using ____

For fuck's sake, this game has the most options of all the others as far as I know, I'm not gonna limit myself to two handing the FUGS and being a naked waifu just to be one of the cool kids.

I'm hoping to see lots of absurd invaders like I used to see in Dark Souls 1. That was half the fun.
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>>138166231
the weapon art is the charged thrust from BB
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>half of the armor sets are from previous games
Good job From
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>>138166231
focus is for wa. those beams are charged r2s. honestly, i prefer it, i can carry 99 repair powders for that
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>>138166259
look where you are you stupid faggot
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>>138165685
Cave into raw astora
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OK, I've been farming vertebra shackles in the carthus catacombs for an hour now and I've seen one drop. How do I increase my item discovery? I'm already wearing the mimic helm, crystal sage rapier and base gold serpent, I'm only in NG somI can't get the +1 or +2. Is there any way to increase item discovery further without levelling luck? I'm about 100 off max discovery, so I'd have to level it like 40 times. At this point I'm thinking it would be faster to just not play for a few days and just finish every covenant when the servers go live next week.
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>>138166228
thank you. The fire keeper heals your sigils, right?
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>>138165685
Apparenlty, sorcery is good at around 60-70 Int. Until then, you're better off playing a melee chartacter and respeccing later.
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Any new secrets or stuff been found yet? We got a list of actual hidden/special stuff?
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>>138166306
And no one wants to use them because people want to use the new shiny shit.

Why did they bother.
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>>138166265
nah the Bloodborne MLGS is actually good. DaS3's feels slow and weak IMO.
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>>138166306
>>138165951
You guys knew that already, "The Know" had already leaked all of this info

>40-45 new sets
>100 new weapons
>12 areas
>15 bosses (we got a little more than that)

You guys knew exactly how much new stuff there would be in the game.
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So what was it again that the game did really well? Had lots of praise of the game outside 4chin, & most of them hated DkS2.

Never heard anything positive about the game here.
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>>138166338
Once you give her the firekeepers soul from the locked tower, yes. Yuria sells the candies.
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>>138166327
Ah right everyone is a pedo and a weab because they post on 4chan
sorry my bad
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>>138166383

Which is which?
I know the third from the left is Dark Souls 2
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>that fucking transition and entire second half of Gascoigne's theme
>that fight
I'm in for a ride with the rest of this game aren't I
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>>138166313
Can you buy Repair Powder ? If so, then yeah, it's better this way. Also, I take it the Repair Sorcery is back, right ?
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>>138166380
are you kidding? the sets they added are some of my favorite sets in the series. i'm especially thankful they added ragged set.
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>>138166449
it's in chronological order. DeS, DaS1, DaS2, and BB.
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>>138166425
>You'll never wear these armors.
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>>138166493
Yes. Enjoy the real "Souls 3". Entirely new and original and unashamed from start to finish.
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>>138166383
>there will never be another transparent, extremely light MLGS that completely ignores shields ever again

:^(
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Will joining the Aldritch Faithful ruin Siegward's or Anri's questlines?
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so what platform are you bros getting ds3 on? i'm not trying to start a console war but i'm genuinely curious to see what the most popular choice on here is
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>>138166493

Yeah, but he's the first real casual filter.

Some of the bosses that are awesome without parrying are pathetic if you parry them to death, similar to Gwyn. Logarius is one. Just don't parry him for a fun fight.
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>>138166413
Like hell is there 100 new weapons.

>>138166493
Nope! Gascoigne is the only truly amazing boss until the very end / the DLC.
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>>138166306
You know, I'm disappointed that they added all the DaS1 starter armors, apart from the Wanderer set. The Wanderer set was the only one I actually wanted to return.
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>>138166263
>implying
you could throw less beams with ds1 and ds2 mlgs before it broke. in ds2 after 8 beams the weapons broke. in ds1 after ~10. here with 6 beams the sword goes from ~60% dur to ~25%
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>>138166606
But logarius buffs himself to be immune to parries against shitters
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>>138165743
I don't think they are fucked at all. From what I have seen they work similar to the scaling in BB, where weapons with scaling based on those stats scale like other weapons (to 40 or 50), but to get the most out of the spells you need more than that, something like 70 in the relevant stat.
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Playing Scholar of the First Sin PS4 port, here. Can't use a fucking cracked red eye orb or my white soapstone anywhere. I'm human, far away from any bonfires.

Game is updated to the latest version. Restarting the game did nothing.

Halp?
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>>138166592
pls respond
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>>138166639
Is there anything like the wanderer's set's unique feature in DaS3?
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>>138166543
>there will never be a smiley face LED helm
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>>138166263
why is that a bad thing? the fact that it consumes durability instead of FP means you can stack tons of them in your inventory and swap yours out when it's about to break like in DaS1


the actual problem with the weapon is that sucks shit and has C scaling in int
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>>138166654

Yeah, but if you parry him the first half, you basically get him down to half health with no real danger. Then if you manage to stun him out of his buff, you can still parry him and only have to deal with his sword lasers on top of his melee
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>>138166283
Well I understand the joke, though personally I find combat with shields boring and prefer playing armored dudes while 2 handing a straight sword or a greatsword. I am familiar with a lot of waifu fags tho.
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>>138166147
SL 98 would be perfect desu
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>>138166643
I have a wind shooting spear in dark souls 3 that lets me shoot its special unlimited every 2 seconds because of the Simple infused shield in my left hand and the fact that weapon arts work even if you only have 1 FP point.

Mlgs is a fucking joke.
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>>138166383
>yfw DeS mlgs looks like pic related
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>>138166606
>Yeah, but he's the first real casual filter.

That's the beauty of him being the first mandatory boss. It's not like Capra, with a way around him. The only other boss you've got to help you get acclimated is Cleric.
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>>138166806
Perfect Souls merchandise
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>>138166737

What am I looking for here?
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>>138166806
lots pf stuff from DeS looks like candy.
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>>138166654
You can parry him Phase 2.

It's incredibly easy to parry him off his skydive lunge.
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>>138166867
I want to chew on that suckerstone
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DOES JOINING ALDRITCH FAITHFUL RUIN ANY QUESTLINES?
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>>138166909
He buffs himself to be immune to parries unless you were really ontop of him and knew how to fight him anyway. Please read.
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>>138166806
>>138166829
>tfw no tiny MLGS hard candy

Japan, are you even trying? This seems right up your alley.
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>>138166938
I want to jam the marrowstone into my gums. just gnaw on that shit.
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>>138166859
The hood and the collar.
Dark Souls 1 has the hood visible when not equipped, and goes up when equipped.
In Dark Souls 2 you just wear two hoods.
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>>138166867
>see moonlightstone
>sudden urge to go buy some caschew nuts
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>>138166976
I guess I got too good a long time ago, because I did not remember him ever getting immunity like that. Is it not just stagger prevention?
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>>138167205
He has a literal buff that deflects bullets away from him. A red flame thing.
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>getting literally 0 nodes in Anor Londo
wtf lads? Did that tool which makes you only connect to your friends fuck everything up?
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So guys
Can I create cute anime pussy in this game
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http://strawpoll.me/7322786

^^^^VOTE^^^^^^^
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>>138167205
He takes a knee to charge it up. You can backstab him out of the charge-up. If you do he won't get the aura, and you can parry him the entire fight as a result.
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>>138167304
Partially, but at the same time you can hunt people down with the more recent updates by directly connecting to them with it.

Sometimes default channel is also fucked up, I don't know, the servers are just really shitty.
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>>138166609
>Like hell is there 100 new weapons.
So 50 new weapons?
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>>138167364
You're crazy if you think that is representative of Romania.
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>>138166973
Nope, and be a man kill both of the gatsurage daemons together.
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>>138167447
well I mean yeah

most of my romanian friends live in villages and get a 10 MB/s average
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is gnaw shit? will I actually be able to land it on someone in pvp?
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>>138167364
Digi Net Fiberlink 1000 ? I'm thinking of upgrading to it next week.
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>>138167364

>fucking gypsies have 70x better net than me
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>>138167364
Fuck you București scum
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So is DS3 going to be worth it?
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So why shouldn't I start deprived on ds3?
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>>138167364
>romanian
How does it feel to know that you're paying for vidya with money that your momma sat on the street to get?
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>>138167637
idk why everyone else has to pay a shitton for like 1 kb/s and we get cocaine fueled internet for 5 euros a month
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>>138167739
Wasted stats.
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>>138167739
If you want to be nekkid with a club go ahead

If you want to do any build at all you have to start with Knight
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XiKIQ9Ow9w

this...
this is the power....

of dark.... souls...................pvp...................................
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>>138167856
>If you want to do any build at all you have to start with Knight

Why's that?
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>>138167812
>>138167856
Why is it wasted stats when it has more stats and starts at sl1?
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>>138167946
Fewer points in inconsequential stats.
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tv/barneezyjones
Pyro doesn't look to shit for pve
I hope they fix magic.
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>>138167950
>has more stats
But it doesn't.
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>>138167950
Because you're not doing the math.

Sure, 10s all through look attractive, but that's 90 points at SL1. A Knight starts at level 9 because it starts with 98 points. It's the same total points per level, it just doesn't look like it at first.
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>>138167924
Well, I'd rather it be a shittier version of BB's pvp than a shittier version of DS2's pvp
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>>138167993
MAGIC IS FUCKING FINE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>138167924

That sword spear looks kinda bullshit to fight against desu
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>>138167993
>watching this meme spewing shitskin

pyromancy damage has been fine since initial release
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>>138168108
>magic is fine.
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Is the Dancer Set sexy as fuck on females?
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Did the FUGS really get nerfed? What's the new flavor of the week weapon then?
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What sort of FC Event should be the first after the game is released in English? Another Knight Event?
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>>138168181
no
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>>138168132
It's real easy to dodge since the thunderstrike is hella telegraphed. The people he's fighting just have to git gud.
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>>138165408
Esther you look terrible
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>>138166784
Fuck off back to /bbg/
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>>138167924
that's a long stamina bar.
Anyway isn't that like your average soul pvp experience?
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>>138168261
that's pretty rude, m8
she's a qt
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>>138168226
game is not even out yet lad
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>>138168181

Yes
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>>138168292
Using spoilers is rude, you're in no position to judge pretty boy.
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>a-team they said
>back to glory days they said
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>>138168349
u wot
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>>138168226
yes it did but it's still a good weapon
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>>138168292
>that thing
>a qt
Maybe with a bag over her head while I impale her with my schlong.
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>>138168387
unlearn that stuff, its useless
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>>138168409
nah
she's real qt
>>138168418
u wot
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>>138168353
so can you kill osierus/ get MLGS without doing road of sacrifices onwards?
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>>138168132
Not really. The people fighting against him just suck.
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>>138165715
Is this with or without rings?
Please say without rings.
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>>138168353
DS1/BB staffers were never working on this game though

just Miyazaki and a couple of artists, and that was a year after development already started
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>>138168418
you're useless
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>>138168484
you have to kill emma
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How do I kill the ruins sentinels. I manage to 1v1 the first one then the others gangbang me as soon as I jump down to fight them
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>>138168478
Morning, satan.
I swear the fog follows you



>>138168514
You're the beast you worship
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>>138168303
too bad most in here has already played the game for over 2 weeks now, friend.
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>>138168543

Don't jump down, fight the 2nd one that jumps up then drop down if the 3rd one jumps up as well.
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>>138168509
>all those resused weps and armours
>those reused areas and tilesets, just with different color
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>>138168579
I don't get it.
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Any sexy looking female armor in this game?
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>>138167924
Seems fine to me.
Oro's adversaries just don't seem to have a grasp on how hyper armor works.
And were those two people that died running into him try to backstab fish?
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>>138168484

Yeah.

You just kill Emma and initiate the Dancer. Summom the Sword Master to solo the Dancer for you. I think it only works if you summon him once, homeward bone out of the boss room, then summon him again. For some reason, the Dancer can't even tickle him the second time. He'll eventually bleed her out.
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>>138168651
Isn't that a glitch ? He doesn't take any damage from the Dancer.
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>>138168543
conserve resources during the first one, she's easy. don't jump down once you kill her, buff with what you have and wait for the second to jump up. get her as low as possible and jump only after the third has jumped. or if you're feeling manly, plunge attack her when she goes up to the the platform ready to jump up. don't lock on
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>>138168353
Worst part is killing bosses deactivates random invasions. So prepare for ded gaem in 3 months unless megamules start popping up.
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>>138167924
>the fucking phantom hits on that spear

jesus fuck. I want to believe it's lag. but I know it's not
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>>138168484
You can, but good fucking luck, the dancer's hp is stupidly bloated at that point in the game and Oceiros will probably take like 30 damage from an INT build, seeing as how it's still hard to break double digits at the end of the game.
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>>138167924
>watch oro's pre-nerf fugs video
>gets fucking BODIED by an enemy using the WA of the FUGS because he just R1 spams into it
AHAHAHA
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>>138168593
>>138168721

thanks. I wasnt expecting anything other than git gud but thanks for your help. What is the next boss I should go for after them?
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>>138168627
Go ask bbg
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>>138168353
What's wrong? Did you see BB map, /v/tard?
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>>138168741
>Worst part is killing bosses deactivates random invasions.

Why would they go back to this.
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>>138168774
>jap servers
>against japs
I'm not trying to say there is no phantom range but that's just lag.
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>>138168774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QWWCSx3r1s
Lag + people not dodging
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>>138165715
is there a spreadsheet like this for dex or quality?
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>>138168707

It is. You should try the sequence break before they inevitably patch it.
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>>138168498
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>>138167364
meanwhile, in the philippines
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>>138168741
CE will be immediately bent on making stat changing and itemswap tables. It's historical.
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>>138168823
you should go for the boss that uninstalls your game because you can't even beat the sentinels without the help of the internet, you scrub
just explore around a bit, bastille is a cool place with its share of little secrets
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>>138168605
Look Alice Liddell, maybe all you need is some Eggplants to help you get the bigger picture. I can provide you some dandy lions to guide you.
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>>138168842
>What's wrong?
It's nothing like das1
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>>138166867
ayy Moon looks like banana Runts. the best flavor
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>>138168627
These booty pants are probably the best you will get.
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>>138168853
Because Dakku Sorsu 1 is the best game ever.
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>>138168980
I still don't get it.
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>>138167924
>BK halbred WA
>no damage
Sasuga From
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>>138169045
you need to construct additional pylons
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>>138168842
>>138168982
>when other people call out idiots for you.

thanks breh.
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>30 Human Dregs
>30 Vertebra Shackles
>30 Wolfblood grass
>4 Ears
>7 Tongues
>1 Sunlight medal

This farming is painful
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>>138169081
y-you too
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Is there even a rank 3 in the covenants?

I got the 30 tongues and the luck staff, what's the teir 3 reward?
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>>138169120
it sucks that you need 30 shackles for warmth.....
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>>138168982
>It's nothing like das1
And?
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>>138169186
There's no rank 3.
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>>138169120
As someone who gives 0 fucks about achievements, it's your own fault.
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>700 AR BKGA
>tfw hitting people for 600+
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>>138169189
And it's fucking terrible.

Heals like 100HP a cast I swear to fucking god. Requires 25 faith?

Just awful. It had no reason to be downgraded.
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>>138169051
Most of the damage comes from the final hit and he missed it.
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What armor is the player wearing here? It's kinda neat.
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Are weapon infusions good like in ds2 or complete shit like in ds1?
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>>138168842
You mean the game that no one plays?
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>>138169320
they're pretty much necessary to make dex weapons that aren't katanas produce substantial AR
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>>138169320
Damage gets a flat reduction, followed by a % reduction. Draw your own conclusions.
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>>138168498
Without rings.
Happy?
>>138168909
Dunno.
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>>138169320
almost a must
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>>138169270
do they die instantly?
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So what the hell is Irithyll?
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>>138169308
Leonhard's set
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>tfw running around with 1700 hp with a straight sword and hitting as hard as a greatsword
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>>138169308
Headpiece looks like Fallen Knight. Could be mistaken
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so has anybody had any experience with the mace? in all the pvp videos i've seen so far i haven't seen it once, is it just really bad? i'm glad they improved the moveset and i was hoping it would see more action
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>>138169492
>Irithyll
It's the city of the most evil character in the soulsborne universe.
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>>138169492
Pontiff's city.
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So is hollowing bad in this?

From what I've read maxing out your hollowing gives you 5 free levels. But what's the downside?
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Is Dark Souls 3 worth pre-ordering or should I just wait until it drops in price?
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>>138169612
flip a coin
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>>138169550
It's pretty much the easy mode of das3.
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>>138169603
No down side aside from looking ugly. You also need to hollow to get the third ending.
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>>138169612
You don't have own opinion? If so, no - DS3 is shit.
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>>138165887
Fun is subjective and so is the like for netplay.
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>>138169552
It's from NT, so it's the assassin class' armor AKA Leonhardt's.
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>>138169675
So no downside then. Ballin'

Zombie mode here I go!
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>>138169603
game-wise?
You'll look like shit.
lore-wise?
I'm not as smart as vaati so ask him.
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>>138169585
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>>138169585
>the city of the most evil character
Which one?
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>>138169687
I'm divided because from what I've seen about it I don't really feel like paying $60 for DS2.5, if that is in fact what it is.
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>>138169612
If you're willing to wait, might as well buy the definitive versions which will have all DLCs included.
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Got Artorius' sword in DaS3 now. Seems pretty good, don't know if its worth the titanite scales though..
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>>138169824
It's Dark Souls 1 2: Not as good edition.
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>>138169823
Pope Sullivan.
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How does one get better in situations where you find yourself outnumbered? Talking about invading against 3 players? Maybe I should use the PVE enemies more often, I tend to get kited into a 1v3 situation with odds heavily stacked against me by default
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>>138169898
why is he so evil?

im sorry my brain broke trying to make sense of the dank memes here. >>138169804
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>>138169823
Darth Uchiha.
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>>138169946
Play like a complete bitch with using pve enemies and don't feel bad about it.
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>>138169898
Yes, but which one?
Shh, I'm trying to meme here
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>>138169823
Ponytail Sillyman
>>
Daily Reminder

>All the covenants act the same with no special neat ones
>THREE Blue covenants all reliant on one, that is useless
>Only 2 covenant ranks
>Dragon Form is ugly as shit
>Luck doesn't actually help item drops at all, coins do, Luck only adds like 7 bleed points of damage to a weapon
>Magic is the same old shit, no new marriage of the combat system, still just standing still casting stupid soul arrows
>Almost all armours and weapons and items are recycled as well as much of the enemies
>Awful hitstun makes pvp a stunlock festival, making the age old havel estoc stronger than it's ever been
>Fist Weapons are shit as fuck again, slow startups when they should have the fastest
>All the boss weapons are inferior to standard weapons again because you can't infuse them or specialise them or do cool things with them
>Painful clipping rampart everywhere in the game on all kinds of armour and weapon combos, one of the starting classes literally has the single worst clipping seen in videogame history
>Pyromancy weapon art of combustion is completely useless, combustion spells also nerfed to be worse range than the actual flame
>Bonewheel shield was downgraded, it's spin move now uses mana and the thing itself has no hyper armour at all, like all shield attacks
>Shield attacks still weren't made better than DaS1, same shit but without poise now

>No secret touches, no niceties and weird stuff like gravelording, egghead, the rat trap area of Dark Souls 2, no weird weapons that do shit when you break them like santiers

>Wielding weapons in left hand has been broken, , shielding with a parrying dagger for fucks sake, no reason not to just let it keep it's r1s and r2s other than pure lazyness

>Poison was made completely useless

>Luck Scaling infusion stll requires STR and DEX to get normal damage anyway

This game is honestly a mess. After being in BB for so long, it feels like a quickly rushed out grab.
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is "rage" the current /dsg/ pvp/coop password?
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>>138170086
Thanks /v/
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>>138170086
Daily reminder

Shit posts and reposts go on /v/
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>>138170025
Here's something copypasted from a few threads ago.

>He appears to be part of the same light aligned god-race as Gwyn's brood. He's a native to Irithyll who went power mad when he discovered the Profaned Flame, and decided that he needed to control everything in his power to control. He, despite being a secular sorcerer, weaseled his way into the seat of Pontiff, the highest position god-men not of Gwyn's line might attain. He used this position to syncretize the religion and therefore Irithyll's entire regime with the Deep religion of the former Lloydists, and fed Gwyndolin to Saint Aldritch to get him out of the way. His loyalty to Aldrich is doubtful.

>The human vassals of the Irithyllians were reduced to slaves, and deeply hollowed. The Holy Knights were consumed by Chaos, and became witches. The old handmaids of Gwynevere became dancers for his amusement. The common soldiery- assuming that there is a distinction between the former Holy Knights and the Pontiff Knights- were ordained as 'knights' in order to serve as the Pontiff's executioners, a gendarmerie to root out all dissent. Any that resisted this course or merely displeased Sulyvahn were banished as Outrider Knights and given rings enchanted with black sorcery, that they might be driven mad to bring ruin to the outside world. Eventually, they would degenerate into the watchdog beasts.

>Sulyvahn is so especially villainous because he wasn't corrupted by any malign force, wasn't deceived by creatures of the Abyss, nor did he undertake extreme actions for righteous cause, nor was cursed by a fatal flaw. He merely craved power above all else after the barest touch of the Chaos Flame, drowning himself in Dark to attain ever more of it. Not for any higher purpose, but merely to satisfy his ego, his cruelty and his vices. Sulyvahn's tragedy lay in his rise, rather than a fall from grace.
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is it just me or is hair color in DaS3 fucked

I can't get light brown or blonde to look right
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>>138170086

Daily Reminder

>All the covenants act the same with no special neat ones
>THREE Blue covenants all reliant on one, that is useless
>Only 2 covenant ranks
>Dragon Form is ugly as shit
>Luck doesn't actually help item drops at all, coins do, Luck only adds like 7 bleed points of damage to a weapon
>Magic is the same old shit, no new marriage of the combat system, still just standing still casting stupid soul arrows
>Almost all armours and weapons and items are recycled as well as much of the enemies
>Awful hitstun makes pvp a stunlock festival, making the age old havel estoc stronger than it's ever been
>Fist Weapons are shit as fuck again, slow startups when they should have the fastest
>All the boss weapons are inferior to standard weapons again because you can't infuse them or specialise them or do cool things with them
>Painful clipping rampart everywhere in the game on all kinds of armour and weapon combos, one of the starting classes literally has the single worst clipping seen in videogame history
>Pyromancy weapon art of combustion is completely useless, combustion spells also nerfed to be worse range than the actual flame
>Bonewheel shield was downgraded, it's spin move now uses mana and the thing itself has no hyper armour at all, like all shield attacks
>Shield attacks still weren't made better than DaS1, same shit but without poise now

>No secret touches, no niceties and weird stuff like gravelording, egghead, the rat trap area of Dark Souls 2, no weird weapons that do shit when you break them like santiers

>Wielding weapons in left hand has been broken, , shielding with a parrying dagger for fucks sake, no reason not to just let it keep it's r1s and r2s other than pure lazyness

>Poison was made completely useless

>Luck Scaling infusion stll requires STR and DEX to get normal damage anyway

This game is honestly a mess. After being in BB for so long, it feels like a quickly rushed out grab.
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>>138167924
>"That wasn't very honourable"
>You're supposed to just stand there and let your opponent buff up
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>>138170289
Max bright "white" results in middle grey.

It's fucked up. Worse character creation than BB.
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If you're a Blade of the Darkmoon can you invade using the Red Eye Orb as a Blue Phantom?
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>>138170329
This.

Mind if I watch you get a zillion free AR?

Nah, no thanks. I buff on my own time, I fully expect and endorse people trying to stop my ass.
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>>138170329
You are supposed to do that in a fight club, especially at the beginning of the fight, but not in an invasion.
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>>138170086
Pyro is the only magic type in the game that's viable at lower levels, dragon form is an improvement over DS1, boss weapons are some of the least boring in the entire game, and one less covenant rank is hardly a thing to be pissed off about.

The rest is basically true, though.
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You can save character appearances, right? I really liked that in BB because you could have a look at the actual ingame lighting that way.
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>>138170261
Watch Vaati say this exact thing in his Prepare to Cry Potiff Sulyvahn video.
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>>138170464
Yes.
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I just wanna say that the le
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>>138170329
>>138170421
Didn't watch the video, but I'm going to chuck the anti-buff lloyd's at anyone who tries to buff, duel or not. It's part of my pre-fight prep, deal with it.
>>138170509
Great, thanks!
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>>138170481
Not if I make a video on it first and put a screencap of the post so he can't claim it
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>>138170086
>one of the starting classes literally has the single worst clipping seen in videogame history

pics?
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Will Siegward show up if I do Yoel with a Phantom? Wanna fight Yoel with my buddy.
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>>138170515
Candlejack is that y
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>>138170329
Never understood this.

>Someone invades
>They're standing in front of me
>They start the animation for buffing a weapon
>Rush his ass and kill him
>Get message off him
>"Lol learn to play scrub, didn't let me buff"

So I'm supposed to let you power-up before attacking? This isn't an anime...I'm going to attack the second I get the chance, especially if you're in the middle of an animation.
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>>138170607
Why not get summoned then?
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>>138170661
He needs Siegward too
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>>138165526
Just finished DS1 and started DS2. And something seems off. Is there some sort of starting lag (about 0.5-1 second) on the roll? Or is that a bug on my side?
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>>138170607
>yoel
>with a phantom
>>with a phantom
UGH
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>>138170261
noice

watch they retcon this with Primordial Serpent Kaathe DLC by having Kaathe instigate the entire thing.
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>>138170596
The cleric/whatever starts with that blue set.

There's a gigantic hump on the armour piece, and the character starts with a mace you need to two hand to engage the battle art, putting your starter shield on your back, resulting in awful clipping of insane proportions.

They clearly didn't even fucking play their own game as their own classes. Every Fromsoft employee probably ran as a Knight and Pyro.

Would make alot of things make sense.
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>>138170607
Why would you do that, Yoel is a cool guy.
Memeing aside, yes, he will show up at Yhorm regardless of the amount of phantoms.
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>>138170656
Obviously, you're supposed to power up while they power up. That's the most anime thing to do.

Alternatively, if you see what they're buffing with, use the elemental resistance item to buff against it. It is maximum comedy if they complain then.
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>>138170698
You want agility, which you gain by putting points into adaptability (and attunement, to a lesser extent). I recommend going 99, go to 100 if you backstep a lot.
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If you're a Blade of the Darkmoon can you invade using the Red Eye Orb as a Blue Phantom?

Also any difference at all between it and Blue Sentinels?
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>>138165526
Can I play DS2 on PC without it making my weapons degrading twice as fast? Last time I gave up because when I tried exploring some areas like the Burg, My staff broke WELL before the boss which is kinda shitty.
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>>138170781
I thought that only helped with iframes. Does it also decrease the starting lag?
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DSP going to destroy Pontiff first try today, not even /dsg/ did that
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>>138170656
Ironically, they are the scrub. They are just calling you one because they treat it like a random insult after being called one so many times.

The decided in their own head that attacking people while they buff is "cheap." It's like the people in fighting games that think throwing is cheap.

The only souls game that had a "let them buff" etiquette was DeS, and that's only because the meta assumed that everyone would buff, even if just with second chance. From DaS1 on, we moved away from everyone buffs, so there is no reason to allow buffs as a matter of course. You can still buff if you like, but it is on you to get them off safely.
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>>138169579
so nobody uses the mace? not even just to mess around with it and test its viability in pvp?
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>Invade
>Die
>Lose all my souls
>If that's not bad enough, they are located for pickup where I died in the host's world

wooooooooooooooooow
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>>138170852
They patched it at some point (I think with scholar?) so it's not twice as fast anymore. You can also grab bracing knuckle rings throughout the game, those give 20%, ??% and 50% less durability use, iirc. They used to be in Bastille, bought from the ghost at the castle and in the crypt, not sure if they're all still in the same spots.
>>138170929
It can make the iframes start earlier in your roll.
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Gotta say, the catacombs area of DaS3 was disappointing as fuck.
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>>138166867
those fucking icons, demon's souls looked dated even in 2009
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>>138170785
No, and the differences are likely small mechanic things no one's tested yet like invading as a sunbro
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>>138170953
Mace is not a straightsword, estoc, katana or UGS. So yes, no one.
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>>138170948
tfw he killed katanaguy on his first try
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Honestly, the level design in this game isn't good. It's incredibly lackluster compared to DaS1.

Take the New Catacombs for instance. It's literally a box map. It's just corridors, big rectangles. The lava area is a copy pasta of this with a red tileset.

The swamp is just a round room with water in it all at one height. Bloodborne's Forbidden Woods is so much larger and has so much more terrain variation it's scary.

Lothric is okay, but even then, it's all very much a straight shoot.

Irithyl Dungeon, compared to Latria, again, a joke. Like 2 floors, 2 sides.

There is nothing in this game, level design wise, on the scale of anything from Demon's Souls or the best of DaS1. Shrine of Storms is a fucking masterpiece compared to what we've been given.

Archdragon Peak is the only area in the game that is actually good, but they wasted the level design on dumb bossfight, and then a lazy teleport up to the rest of the level, which turns into another bunch of copy pasta corridoors.

All the locations, when you actually run through them, are incredibly small and nothings really stopping you.

Try legging it through Shrine of Storms or Valley of Defilement ignoring the enemies and see what happens to you.

I cannot believe this shit. I actually cannot. It "looks" nice, there's lots of detail, but it's actually less detailed to me because it feels so "made" and box mappy and segregated yet stitched together like the segments of a long centipede of level design.

Was Demon's level design a fluke or did they straight up fire their best guys after that game released or something?
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>>138170852
That's fixed at the very least in SotfS.

>>138171017
>It can make the iframes start earlier in your roll.
Thanks.
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>>138170948
15-20 deaths.
Unless he grinded like crazy AGAIN, and he'll still die a few times.
I don't know how people this retarded can function.
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>>138171064
Its got that mid 90s pre-rendered 3D look to it
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>>138171017
>It can make the iframes start earlier in your roll.

Absolutely false.
iframes begin on the first frame of the rolling animation. There is nothing mechanically that adjusts when iframes start, only when they end. If for some reason they aren't in >>138170698, the most likely culprit is some sort of issue with frame counting and an unlocked framerate.
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>>138171072
>The swamp is just a round room with water in it all at one height
I mean...
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>>138170948
How many times did he die on Wolnir and Old Demon King, again? Something around 7 and 11?
>>138171127
TRIED TO DODGE, DIDN'T WORK!
FROM SOFTWARE DIALS IT IN
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>>138171064
it really did. Everything was pretty bare bones. But I commend them. They didn't have much of a budget.
>>
>No traps in DS3
So sad
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what's with all the seeds of a giant tree recently? aren't they super rare? I found only one during my playthrough, in dark firelink. Yet everywhere I invade there's this item active. Can they be bought in NG+?
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>>138171140
Demon Souls confirmed Vaporwave ~a e s t h e t i c~
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>>138171154
My mistake, anon. I guess he might also be dealing with some sort of input delay then.
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>>138171159
But this was way better. You couldn't roll properly in the poison, and there was a series of walkways that funnelled you and you had to deal with tough enemies, eventually arriving at a labyrinth clusterfuck of wood shit everywhere.

The poison joint in DaS 3 is like a quarter the size of this, a completely round circle, with 3 copy pasta identical platforms with towers and you can just roll spam through the entire zone. It doesn't feel organic.

The shape of 5-2 just looks organic. Look at it.
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C R A C K W H E N ?
R
A
C
K

W
H
E
N
?
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>>138171113
>>138171017
I could never get into DS2 too much. Partley because they nerfed casters too hard in my Opinion.
I'm looking at my friend who sports a greatsword and he just crushes bosses in a few hits like they're fucking nothing. Then there I am with my Sorceries just tickling away tiny amounts of health each time while having casting animations that are way longer than his hit animations. It's kinda silly
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>>138170948
He's forever irrelevant ever since he wasn't able to beat Ludwig.

Thing is he gave up.
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>>138171346
two hours
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>>138171065
Man, there isn't a single covenant I even want to join. The lore for all of them is shit and none of them do anything interesting assuming they even work properly.
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>>138171346
>crack
>missing the whole online game

why would you do that? just buy a cheap key for 35€
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>>138171302
5-2 is probably the worst level in any fucking video game, you blind nostalgia tard.
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>>138171302
I haven't played 3 so I can't judge it at all. I just thought the flatness of the swamp was a silly thing to bitch about.

I always run past everything in 5-2 as well, thief's ring skips everything before the fog gate before the vendor just by veering off a bit to the right.
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>>138167924
4:20
>"that wasn't very honorable at all"

Why shouldn't buffs be apart of the fight?
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>>138171401
nigga I ain't got the money for it
also I like pve more because as you know I'm a le epic pccuck meme haha
>>
Honestly expecting this game to cause the end of the series.

I think people are going to burn out on this one. I feel like I have.

Bloodborne was it for me. I want more of shit like that. No more sequels. New games, new stuff.
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>>138171072
Everything has been designed to be host friendly.
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>>138171289
>>138171154
Well I googled the issue and the first few results mention inconsistent starting lag on rolling in 2 but not in 1. Then again, the first few results were gamefaqs.
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>>138171072
>catacombs
>bad
>giant skellieballs
>skeleton ninjas
>skellieganksquad
Shit blows DaS1 away.
>on the scale of anything from Demon's Souls or the best of DaS1
Both undead settlement and high wall are better early game areas than boletarian palace or burgshit.
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>>138171231
It really does kind of look like your inventory items in Diablo 2.
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>>138171459
I never thought I'd say this, but this map is pretty darn cute
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>>138171231
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>>138171072
>It's incredibly lackluster compared to DaS1.
Aside from Painted World and Catacombs, DaS1 was the one lacking. It's the World Design that shined.
DaS3 is too flat though, yes.
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>>138171485
New Kings Field game?
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>>138171159
Fuck still remember back then.
>get literally lost on 5-2
>where the fuck am I
>suddenly black phantom troll
>can't go back cause poison swamp
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WHERE IS DUSK'S SET
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>>138171072
>Was Demon's level design a fluke or did they straight up fire their best guys after that game released or something?

DeS had different goals for its design philosophy. Every block had only a single Archstone that it had to wind back to and only worried about connecting inwardly to itself.

DaS was given more freedom to place bonfires, and so cared slightly less about tightening up the levels around the bonfire. However, it approached the open world with a fervor and the connection between maps was prioritized. However, you can feel the exact moment free warping between bonfires, coupled with the pressure of the release date, broke their resolve.

Restriction breeds creativity. DaS2, and even DaS3 show what giving free transport between bonfires and the power to place as many bonfires as they felt necessary did to level design.
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>>138171364
I did my first no death run on a spellcaster because there's almost nothing that poses a thread when you can pewpew it to death from a distance. Being able to shit out more DPS by actually needing to get into melee range makes more sense.
>>138171564
Despite the other one being more accurate, I just love the crudely drawn one way more.
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>>138171626
>Gif
>tumblr
Kill yourself right now
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>>138170607
Yeah he will show up
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>>138171493
Fucking THIS.

I have tried SO MANY TIMES to gravity kill hosts and do all sorts of shit and I swear to god they PERFECTLY designed the level so I JUST can't see to make a bow shot etc.

I pushed people off the fucking bridge in the catacombs with the wind spear, and they simply fell forward and down to the bottom to where you enter the izalith area, survived the fall damage, climbed the bridge ladder up and all 3 fucked me.

Again, the silver knight archers. Same shit, knocked a guy off the platform, lo and behold, there's a platform down there to catch their ass and send them up.

All these areas where you think a gravity kill or a bow snipe could be a thing, and the level design is made in just such a way that it fucks me out of it.

The Grand Archives is an absolute cuckfest as an invader. You get ahead to try and get an advantage, but...you can't. The way the platforms, the railings are, you just can't get a hit on someone. There's no where to send them falling to their death.
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>>138171657
Yep, warp from the start killed good area design.
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>>138165526
Who is the most tragic figure in the entire series? My nomination is Seigmeyer.
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So I just found out from a friend that DkS1 isn't corrupted by GWFL anylonger, and enjoying the fuck out of it.
Wanting to go from DkS1-2 until DkS3 is released (prolly will take a bit longer than the rest of the days).

Now, Chapra Demon.. I just got to this fucker again, am I the only one who thinks he's one of the worst designs of a boss? I love the music during the fight, but fuck this boss is badly designed.

First time experience, get jumped and die within a few seconds due to stunlocks.
Second entrance, die to either horrible camera or a dog gets a lucky hit on you from the side/back and you're in stunlock paradise again.

Strategy involved going up stairs over and over again.

I don't know man, I just think this is the worst boss in the entire game.
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Are the badass bloodborne beards back in ds3?

Thinking of making a Guan yu build

>eastern armor
>black knight halberd
Still need to figure out the head, leg and arm gear
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>>138171845
>get poise
>0 effort boss
People really need to learn to adapt to shit.
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>>138171564
u m b a s a
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>>138171758
>complaining that you can't get easy bullshit kills while invading
Git gud
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>>138171845
>capra
>a boss
It's a lategame mob with 2 dogs and nothing more.
Acquire decency.
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>>138171762
DeS shows that isn't necessarily true, and Bloodborne managed to account for it very well. The real problem is free warping AND freely placed bonfires. Having any number of checkpoints means the bonfires are the checkpoints instead of shortcuts back to the archstone.
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>>138171703
>le ebin tumblr gif meme
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I just fought a guy that randomly kept getting hit. Like he'd be standing there then suddenly he'd be in the hit stun animation and be taking damage.

What the fuck happened? Was he hacking himself?
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>>138171981
That's my issue with him, he's literally easy to fight, but he's so trial and error with the dogs.
I just think it's the worst fight in the entire game.
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>>138171882
the amount of weeb in this post makes me vomit, you'll fit right into dark souls 3 with its DBZ kamehameha, flying 2kats and artorias animu spins
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>>138171762
>I never played BB
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>>138171657
Am I the only one who likes DeS's level system the best?
With that they could easily implement day/night and weather changes without the time is convoluted nonsense in future titles.
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>>138171845
>>138171845
>spelling it chapra
Makes sense, considering you're such a fucking idiot you can't even beat him in your sleep.
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>>138171758
>mfw popping a Giant seed in Anor londo/Grand Archives
Literally the fastest way to farm souls.
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>>138172019
SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME
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>>138172085
No, enjoy your shit mix of DeS and DaS.
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>>138171658
I love the new Firelink shrine in DaS3. has a very Nexus feel.
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>>138172107
That's a big filename.
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>>138171768
The series itself.

If they stopped rushing games out and just stopped and put three to four years into one we would have one great sequel to Dark Souls rather than 3 ok ones. Hell even Dark Souls 1 was rushed in the last third.

Dark Souls 2 had a ton of content but it was 90% shit.
Dark Souls 3 has good content but there isn't much and its 90% rehashed.
Bloodborne didn't feel unfinished or short but only because they cut out loads of features.

Rather than 3 rushed games that are all flawed in some way they should have just took their time and made one great sequel that wasn't rushed out.
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>game is preloading
>paid leave from wednesday till friday
I'm ready
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>>138171845
He's not badly designed; you're just bad. He is also easier than he has ever been.
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How does one farm the mound covenant items without constantly getting ganked 1v3?
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>>138172019
>>138172153
If it's in 3, I haven't played it yet but was he the host? Maybe a hostile NPC was beating the shit out of him?
>>138172168
I can't wait!
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>>138172107
IM THE CAMERAMAN
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do ghost strikes exist in ds3? would that even work vs the estoc havels?
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>>138172032
>chinese
>weeb
>>138171882
you need a different helmet but otherwise you're golden. where's my fucking bo staff though? i need to play as best monkey that ever popped
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>>138172085
It has its own strengths and a certain sort of charm. It's very old-school fantasy, in a Gauntlet sort of way.
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How is Magic in DS3? Is it viable? Or weak as fuck?
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>>138172220
Those 2 days will feel like 2 hours anon.

>tfw work only on weekends masterrace
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>>138172323
it's pretty weak, you'll have to do a lot right to win in pvp
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>>138172158
I don't want the DaS tier fantasy land garbage.
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>kill Rom
>get teleported into some random zone
>backtrack to Grand Cathedral for closest bonfire
>see Eileen on the steps
>she tells me that there's some badass NPC that I should kill
>come back
>attempt to do so

>he's got at least 3K health
>he heals
>he's got infinite bullets and spams OHB literally endlessly
>his gun does FUCKING 3/4 OF MY HP PER SHOT
>and he does literally nothing but spam it forever and forever and forever because lmao endless ammo :^)))))))))
what the fuck is this horseshit, who thought this was a good encounter?
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TWO FUCKING DAYS AND NINE FUCKING HOURS

WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>138172397
Me neither.
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>>138172336
>tfw no job, living off Patreon money

What a wonderful life.
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>>138172032
3 kingdoms era was the shit you fucking faggot go die in a hole
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>>138172323
Seems to be similar to BB. Weak as fuck at base stats, worse than melee at 40, and OP as fuck at 70+. I have seen people get one shotted by it in PvP.
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>>138172397
DeS was maximum fantasy land though.
We almost even got the talking animals level.
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>>138172431
can't wake up
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>>138172208
>Dark Souls 3 has good content but there isn't much and its 90% rehashed.
Hyperbole much?
>Bloodborne didn't feel unfinished or short but only because they cut out loads of features.
What features?
Let me guess, you think that DeS is literally perfect and has no flaws right? Take off your nostalgia googles, lad.
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>>138172496
>>138172323
Was thinking mostly for PvE. In DS2 I pretty much put nothing into HP and tried to dodgeroll every attack with my wizard.
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>>138172469
Kill yourself vaati
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Jesus christ you guys weren't kidding about how bad Pat and Woolie's playthrough of DaS2 is
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>>138172734
DROP

YOUR

SHIELD

DaS3 is gonna be Pure Pat though
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>>138172682
It sucks.
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>>138172776
it's not necessarily that.

it's just that Pat is surprisingly irritating whenever he tries to """"educate"""" Woolie on all the DaS1 callbacks in the game
>HEY WOOLIE DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS REFERENCE TO THAT ONE GAME THAT YOU NEVER PLAYED
>uh, no I don't
>WELL SINCE THIS REFERENCE IS MEANINGLESS TO YOU, HERE'S AN E X T R E M E L Y LONG SYNOPSIS OF ALL THE SIGNIFICANCE YOU'RE MISSING
>SEE WHAT I MEAN?????
>OH AND 3/4 OF THIS INFO IS BULLSHIT AND/OR COPIED FROM VAATI BTW :^)
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If I buy ds3 cheaper from a key-site will I be able to preload it on steam?
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Did any of you try a Dex/Luck build? How do Onikiri and Ubadachi perform when infused with Hollow at 40 dex 40 luck? I heard they're a quality weapon, but the dex C seems higher than the strength C, so I'm wondering.
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>>138172561
not really. compared to dark souls, demon's souls has a much more low fantasy, grittier medieval feel about it.

there's none of that 'in the age of ancients, the land was ruled by dragons' bullshit.
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>invade
>host has two white phantoms with him
>have an epic battle (i'm no pvp pro so every battle for me is epic when I survive more than 30 seconds)
>through wits and dedication kill two phantoms (took a long time because the area was devoid of pve mobs I could have used)
>host starts running
>summons the same dudes again
>the three of them kill me
>all three form a circle around me and spam 'well what is it'

i admit, I'm kinda mad
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Why is this general so shitty compared to /bbg/? Even when it was super active there was almost no shitposting and autism. I think we should separate /dsg/ into DeS general, DaS1 general, DaS2 general and DaS3 general to cull the shitposting.
What do you guys think?
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>>138173029
Depending on the website, yes. I got my key from gamesplanet yesterday.
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>>138173029
Probably not. Keys aren't usually delivered until after release
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>>138171845
>Chapra
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>>138173109
because DS3 isn't out yet, once it's out the amount of shitposting will go down.
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So does DaS3 confirm that the Ornstein in DaS2 was the real deal?
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>>138172776
That was literally the first thing I noticed in Dark Souls 1.
>Hold block
>get hit
>oh can't take much more of this, almost out of stamina
>let go of block
>notice stamina goes up rapidly
from that point onward I pretty much tried to block in the last possible and not block when the enemy isn't actually in an attack animation. Was fun as fuck.

to celebrate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtT2xYZbWBs
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>>138173109
I think you killing yourself would remove 1/93 of the shitposting.
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>>138173109
>DeS general
Aka dead game general, kek.
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>there is dark sord in ds3
cool
any vid of its moveset?
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>>138173132
I have no idea where the "h" comes from.

Also, is it true I should just not bother with DaS2? Is it really that bad?
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who desperate at [0 nodes] while waiting for DaS3?
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>>138173029
gamesplanet is 30 bong, basically 42 usd and they sent me my key hours ago
preload already done, saved 18usd

gmg hasn't sent out keys yet though
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>>138172107
>drinks estus/uses item
I didn't press that, I pressed dodge.
Such bullshit
hurr Fromsoftware hurr *burps*
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>>138172679
>Let me guess, you think that DeS is literally perfect and has no flaws right? Take off your nostalgia googles, lad.
Not really. Demon's Souls was a good first entry with lots of room for improvement.

Dark Souls was a very ambitious sequel that improved on it in a lot of ways but was unfinished. The last third of the game was rushed to meet a deadline and a lot of content was cut and ideas like covenants weren't fully fleshed out.

And here's where the series gets disappointing. Dark Souls also had a lot of room for improvement and as mentioned was unfinished. It should have been plainly obvious that they should spend more time working on the sequel to Dark Souls because they evidently needed it. But instead of working hard on making the next game as good as they could they went full jew.

Instead of putting all of their focus into making a single fully complete, fully polished, fully realised sequel they instead split the teams up. Started working on multiple games at once and began rushing them out every year. They did the opposite of what they needed to do.

Between DS2, Bloodborne and DS3 you have all of the elements you'd need to make a game that completely blew the fuck out Dark Souls 1. But instead of making one game that's unquestionably better than DS1 they made three rushed out games that are all deeply flawed in some way.
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>>138172561
The point is that Lordran is the size of a small town, yet it has every fantasy setting right next to each other accessible on foot.
It's Disney Land.
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>>138172425
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>>138173171
man, DaS1 has the best heavy armor walking sounds
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>>138173109
>Why is this general so shitty
Partially because of the /v/ermin influx, partially because it's just another shitty /vg/ general.
>compared to /bbg/?
Not really. /bbg/ was alright at first when the game came out, but soon became a reddit hugbox central with namefags and attentionwhoring and people would boo at you if you dare to bring up any kind of criticism regarding their 10/10 Big M masterpiece.
These generals are equally cancerous, so you just have to pick your poison.
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Wait so I killed Rosaria after I had no more use for it in NG because I heard she has a soul that I could use in crafting, but when I killed her she just died, didn't drop anything. After I enter the area again, she lives again. I feel cheated
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>>138173171
andre's backyard demon taught me that. can't guardbreak me now bitch, can you?
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>>138172425
Bloody Crow of Cainhurst claims another victim.
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Wanna play some dork sauce II using KB+M. Heard if you use double click to do shit you get fucked, how can I get around that?
Also I don't plan to do any online. Pic related are my binds atm.
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>>138173469
you have to talk to Leonard at the entrance to the room, then he'll kill her. You can get the soul off of him by finishing his questline after that (and you can still use Rosaria's functions even when she's dead).
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>>138173259
DS2 is a fine game, most of the criticism is blown out of proprotion for the sake of it, just don't expect DS1.5, 2 does a shitload of things differently and works differently.
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>>138173336
>>138173049
DeS feels like a classic Fantasy game though. The segmented levels taking place in Castletown, The Mines, Spooky land, Sky Mountain and Bog Swamp, featuring also the cut content Winterland.

The fact the levels aren't connected does just as much to strengthen their themed adventure tone as integrating them introduced the problems you're complaining about for DaS. It comes across just as strongly of "video games".
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I am actually retarded when it comes to time zones.

PC release date for US central time zone is 5 PM on the 11th, right?

I'm basing that assumption on this steam post.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/374320/discussions/0/365163686036435407/
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>>138173770
Just look at the steam store page.
For me it says
>This game will unlock in approximately 2 days and 8 hours
which is midnight between Monday and Tuesday for me (GMT+1)
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>>138173259
DAS2 is more like Demon souls than it is dark souls. most of the hate toward it is just shitposting. I'm playing thru it right now actually. really fun, the DLC are imo extreamly good. base game has lots of boses, more than Dark souls 3 has apparently. but that doesn't bother me. Dark souls 2 has a little bit too many bosses if you ask me.
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>>138173838
the time on the steam pages are always wonky as fuck m8
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>>138173897
It's generally been accurate for me when it comes to other games.
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Redpill me on the Abyss, /dsg/. Grant me eyes
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>>138173838
>tfw I don't work Tuesday or Wednesday and have nothing planned but DS3 for a solid 48 hour straight.
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>>138171564
u m b a s a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDrDhTURcWU
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>>138173860
Yeah, and the areas are absolute horseshit as far as level design goes, not to mention the game looks bad and the monsters are shit to fight.
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>>138173318
>game that completely blew the fuck out Dark Souls 1
BB already did that.
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>shield stability is governed by END
>not STR
uhh, From? when you tank an enemy's blow with your shield, your cardio isn't what's important, your muscles are
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>>138174117
A S C E T I C
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oh okay then..
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>>138173610
Thanks Ill check it out
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>>138174117
is that slowed down Diana Ross song the only vaporwave song that exists? haha
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>>138174124
far better designed than Dark souls 1 is both in level, and boses.. also the game looks fine for a 2014, game it certainly looks much better than dark souls 1 does.

>monsters shit to fight
so your just a baby? I take it you are not actually good enough then.

you know /V/ is ----->Way you should go back their you might actually belong.
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>>138174168
Bloodborne doesn't really have any major flaws. But only because rather than fixing and improving the flawed elements of the last games it just outright removed them. It's great at the things it does do but it's a narrower game than the previous Souls games.
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>>138174117
A E S T H E T I C S
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>>138174208
>1920x1080
>19 seconds
>all those compression artifacts
>that bitrate

Thank you so much for such a shitty webm, anon.
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>>138174124
>game looks bad and the monsters are shit to fight.
Just like any other souls game, kek.
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>>138174339
>DaS2 isn't bad because lmao every other game in the series is just as bad!!!!
stop embarrassing yourself
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>>138174208

>gets rekt in one hit while back-stab fishing

Fucking poetry m8
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What is an Unkindled?
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>>138173572
>Wanna play some dork sauce II using KB+M. Heard if you use double click to do shit you get fucked, how can I get around that?
See the thing where is says Disable Double Clicking, make sure its set to ON, and switch it from off to on every time you reboot the game, it resets to off while claiming to be on for some reason, but it takes less than a second to do so not a real issue.

Bind Strong attack to shift + left click and weak attack to shift + right click.
Swap right hand weapon to ctrl + right click swap left hand weapon to ctrl + left click

Use item is better off on the keyboard as E or something same for interact but you can bind iteract to shfit + mouse wheel up if you really want to.
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>>138174475
Someone that is not kindled.
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It's so hard to get out of the habit of trying to rally for health back now.
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>>138174375
>implying I said that any one of them is better than others
Looks like you just cucked yourself.
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>>138174306
The entire PvP system and Gems though.
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>>138174475
me
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>>138174520
What does it mean to not be kindled?
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>>138174475
someone who's been suckered into being a passenger on the Fire Keeper's wild ruse cruise
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>>138174009
>fat knights are followers of Frampt the Angel
>Black Church of Londor are followers of Kaathe
WAKE UP ASHEN ONE
YOU'RE BEING PUPPETEERED BY JEWSNAKES, AGAIN
BREAK THE CYCLE
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>>138173625
Oh okay, I'll give it a shot when I'm done with DS1 then (Only just arrived to Anor Londo, only death to Capra Demon due to rolled the wrong way)
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>>138173860
>DAS2 is more like Demon souls
>comparing the most soulless and bland piece of game ever to DeS
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>>138174593
It means you're unkindled.
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>>138174375
Becuese it isn't bad. it's the best rounded game in the series that's been out(haven't played dark souls 3 yet).

dark souls 1 takes a QUALITY dive after fatass, and dragon dildo.

Demon souls is older, and has rough edges.

dark souls 2 takes the best from both games, and makes the best game in the series.
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>>138174571
The system is fine, minus the gems, and gemless FCs are a lot of fun.
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>>138174605
firekeeper isn't evil
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>>138174124
It's hard to be a 7/10 game.
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>>138174571
there is nothing wrong with the Gem system
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>>138174643
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>>138174643
>comparing the most soulless and bland piece of game ever to the most soulless and bland piece of game ever
FTFY
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>>138174643
>being this easily baited
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>>138174608
redpill me more anon
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>>138174643
but that's dark souls 1....
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>>138174643
>>138174671
>dark souls 2 takes the best from both games, and makes the best game in the series.
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>>138174671
>dark souls 2 takes the best from both games, and makes the best game in the series.

0/10, trolling should be subtle. People should be enraged while also not being able to be entirely sure that you are not serious. And no, making them think you are retarded is not the same thing.
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RATE EM
DaS1 > DaS2 > BB > DaS3 > DeS
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>>138174671
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>>138174881
DaS3>DaS2=BB>DaS1>DeS
Reverse release order is right and you all know it.
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>>138174881
more like BB>DaS3>DeS>DaS>DaS2
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>>138174881
ds1 with dlc > bb with dlc > des > ds2 with dlc
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>>138174881
>DaS2 better than anything
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>>138174667
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>>138174881
DaS3>DeS>BB>DaS2>DaS1
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>>138174671
haha no

DaS2 in a nutshell

>all of the levels in the game are post-Anor Londo tier AT BEST
>takes DaS1's world coherence and throws it in the dumpster
>has 100x more pointless weapon reskins
>"""""""fixes""""""""" to the twinking "problem" in DaS1 and DeS break invasions and actually place new players in the most at-risk population for bad matchups
>""""""""fixes""""""""" to the rolling "problem" break the early game and make it a no-fun allowed chore to play through
>"""""""""fixes""""""""" to the "problem" of running past enemies involve cramming 999999 mobs in every zone and slow the game down by a huge margin
>completely fucked item discovery and weapon durability
5/10 your bait got me
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>>138174881
DaS = KF4 = DaS3 > DeS > BB > DaS2
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>>138174671
Not bad m8, don't even understand the fuck you're talking about.
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Fucking gem grinding, so glad it wont be in DS3

now there's 2 left to enjoy stomping bosses for people
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>>138174695
>he actually believes this
Fire Keeper wants you to destroy the Flame, she's in league with Kaathe.

Who else do you think went through all of the trouble to create a fake Firelink Shrine, and trick a bunch of people who are UNABLE TO LINK THE FIRE into killing the only people left in the world who can? And then sends them towards it?
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>>138174881
DAS2>DES>BB>Halo>Call of duty>Dragon age 2>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DAS
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>>138174970
>twinking "problem"
into the trash your opinion goes
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>>138174881
DaS1 > BB > DeS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DaS2

Haven't played 3 yet.
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>>138175037
>1 insight
Get out of here.
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>>138174970
>weapon durability
People are STILL upset over that?
At least shit mattered in 2, might as well have removed it entirely in 1 with the exception of crystal weapons and literally nothing would have changed because that was such a nothing mechanic
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>>138174293
I can feel you a bit on the bosses, but generally no. Overall, Dark Souls admittedly has some really unimpressive bosses, but the absolute best of the best are much better than anything DaS2 has to offer. It has a higher ceiling for quality, even if the averages are debatable.

Much the same is true for the level design. There are some absolutely shit areas in each of the games, but when they struck in DaS, they struck gold. DaS2 has some decent-to-good areas, with the highest quality of them being in the DLC, but their best just isn't as good as DaS's best.

The problem though is that when people stoop to pissing contests between the game, neither side seems to remember its lows, and refuses to acknowledge the other game's highs. It is base belligerence, because they feel the need to be right and justified in their opinions.

If you take an objective look at the series, none of them are perfect, none of them are superior in every way to the other games in the series, and they all have massive flaws. The "best game" doesn't exist. It's a subjective state, where the only "best game" will be the one whose flaws affect you least, and whose strengths you personally appreciate most.
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>>138174881
[INCLUDING DLC]

DaS1 == BB > DeS >>> DaS2
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>>138174970
>999999 mobs in every zone and slow the game down by a huge margin
That's why DS2 has less enemy ambushes and faster sprinting speed right?
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So.... Was Dark souls 3 worth my money or not? You faggots will argue anything
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>>138175210
You liked the DaS series? Definitely.
You didn't? You posted this to bait people, good job you caught me.
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>>138174881
DeS=BB>DaS2=DaS3>DaS1
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>>138175210
I don't know man, it's your money and your enjoyment.
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>>138175096
Crystal weapons and weapons with special skills. That's the way it should be anyway.
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>>138174881
I'm more critique of a game's atmosphere/level design. Didn't bother DkS2 & haven't played DkS3.

DeS>BB Old Hunters>DkS1>BB
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>>138175210
did you buy it? the no, it was not

if you didn't buy it then yes, please buy it
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>>138175096
Yes it should be removed, it's a shitty mechanic that adds nothing to most games. When your weapon breaks in these games it's like they were expecting you to have upgraded atleast 5 back up weapons, if you didn't do that you may as well have died because now you have to return to base or go back to the bonfire.
That's even if you let it break in the first place. It just sucks ass.
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>>138175104
>but the absolute best of the best are much better than anything DaS2 has to offer.
Such as?
O&S is a joke where the first half is just watching Orni dash around like a retard because they AI is fucked and just baiting one away from the other to slowly chip away at them
Arotrias is a complete bitch unless you kneecap yourself by not using heavy armor

Please do tell me about the amazing bosses in DS1 such as "I jump off a cliff demon", "I can't hit you if you are standing in front of me spider" and "there are totally not 2 more reskins of me demon"
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>>138174881
DeS=DaS2>>>>>>>DaS3>BB>>>DaS
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>>138175198
who said anything about ambushes? Iron Keep has no ambushes, there's just a million dudes stuffed into a 300 square yard area
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>>138175278
I really like the DaS games, no bait friend.

>>138175294
Is it atleast generally accepted as superior to Dark souls 2?
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>>138175365
Then enjoy cockfag.
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>>138174685
>>138174713
The system would be much better if there was a single spawning Bell Maiden by default in each area.

As for gems, they're an advantage given out at random. They don't reward skill or effort, they reward people willing to find the most efficient way to grind out gem drops and a lucky spin of the RNG. They don't affect your playstyle, they're just extra damage for no legitimate downside.
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>>138175356
19 enemies before a boss two of whom are optional.
17 enemies between you and a boss, truly an unacceptable amount of adverseries
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>>138175210
Nah it's fucking shit worse than DaS2 and DaS1 together
Only good games are DeS and BB tbqh know what Im saying familla?
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>>138175418
senpai you can get multiple 20% gems without any grinding at all
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>>138175158
>das2 last
>including dlc
m9, the dlc for das2 was the shit
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>>138175418
Nah, invaders already have an advantage. It's only fair that hosts need to have a summon or chose to allow invasions.

I am not disagreeing about the gems. I agree that gems were a bad idea.
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>>138175504
it's too much of a hassle to slog through the base game to reach them.
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So is it good, despite the rehashed weapons and armour? I'm super hype, my copy should arrive today
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>>138175504
Heard lots of good things about the dlc, haven't played DkS2, can I just start the dlc like a standalone?
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>>138175593
You have to complete like less than 1/6th of the main game to access any given DLC
You have to beat like 1/4 of the main game to get to all 3.
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>>138175643
no, they're all endgame
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>>138175104
pretty much, I was mearly trolling really. but honestly. I can't pick which game is the best. thier are certain parts of DAS1 that I love, and hate, same for dark souls 2. same for demon souls.

the people that like to tout DARK SOULS 1 IS PERFECT IN EVERY WAY!!!! are just as bad as the old deom souls playes who uesed to say DEMON SOULS IS BETTER THAN DARK SOULS IN EVERY WAY!!!!

if I were to honestly rate both souls games, I would give them the exact same rating, 8/10. /Dark souls 1 isn't anywere near as perfect as some people here like to believe, it's filled with imo a lot of problems. boses are overall kinda meh. they certainly don't live up to Demon souls.

in ten years the only boses that I will remember will be(from dark souls 1) orni/Fatass, andartorious.

for dark souls 2, really it's flume knight, and velstad, even though velstad is just a rehash of vinland from demon souls. mabye ruin sentinals for how terrible it was first playthrough. sir allone also comes to mind.

demon souls? I'm going to remember almost every boss becuese it was my first souls game.
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I see he's jolly as ever.
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>>138175683
>drangleic castle is the first 1/4 of the game
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>>138175504
Only the Ivory King DLC pack was any good and even that was just "good". And none of the DLC packs had a good boss in them.
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>>138175705
Thanks, I'll pass.
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>>138175683
Isn't the third one in Shrine of Winter? Unless you're grindan 1mil souls, it's fairly far into the game.
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>>138175347
Sanctuary Guardian, Artorias, Manus, and Kalameet mostly. Artorias is a very rhythmic fight that centers around good timing, and if you want to dismiss it with Havel's, then that just raises the point you can become nearly invincible (including total immunity to elemental damage) in DaS2, so that's hardly an actual fault. Even with the complaints about OnS, they're a superior fight to the Throne duo.

Even taking Gwyn at his worst, a largely painless parryfest, are you legitimately going to try and sell Nashandra or Aldia as better?

Like I said, the fact many of the bosses are a joke isn't a big weakness when taken into comparison against another game where most of the bosses are a joke.
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>>138175683
the hell are you talking about? to get to Ivory King you need to be in Drangleic Castle.

Besides, I only got meh amounts of enjoyment out of the base game, and I'm not willing to spend ~10 hours playing a 4/10 game to get to the 8/10 dlcs
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>>138174881
BB >= DaS2 > DaS >> DeS
Haven't played DaS3 yet, but from what little gameplay I've seen, it has the potential to be the best in the series.
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>>138175763
>And none of the DLC packs had a good boss in them.
This fucking retard.
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>can't find any nodes in DaS 1 no matter what I do
Fuck it.
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>>138175763
>none of the DLC packs had a single good boss in them
epic bait
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>>138175621
DS2 levels of poise
More enemy ambushes and gangbangs than 2, about the same amount as 1
DS2 levels of armor usefulness
Random teleports to different areas, overall the word is less connected than 2
Like 1/3 of the bosses are NOT gimmick/multi enemy bosses
It's about the size of BB

Make of all that what you will
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>>138175763
RETARD DETECTED RETARD DETECTED.

the iron king DLC has two of the best boses in any souls game.
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>>138175497
So either gems are really easy to get and so completely irrelevant, nothing but a chore everyone has to do, or they're bullshit vomited out by an RNG.

Neither of those options are good design. Saying something is a nonissue or easy to deal with doesn't mean it's excusable, it's still poorly implemented.
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>>138175763
The final bosses of each DLC are literally top 3 Souls bosses period.
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>>138175979
>>138175938
>le epic bad hitbox 3 swipes and a downward swing knight
>good

the best part is you don't know which DLC boss I'm talking about because they're all the fucking same fight
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>>138175938
>Muh alonne
And don't you even fucking dare say Fume aka le 3 abilities big man in armor.
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>>138175991
lol, no
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>>138171464
you what? he's saying the dude who interupted him wasn't honorable, I actually agree, if you wanted to be full honorable toolbag, you'd bow, let your opponent buff and all that, but in a fight club you don't have to be completely honorable.
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>>138175758
>>138175824
>>138175883
Yeah you sure as shit are gonna beat Sunken King, Iron King and 2 great souls without reaching 1 mil SM on your first playthrough.


It's not uncommon for people to accidentally skip one of the 4 great souls by getting enough SM in the BASE game, if you take it on yourself to get into the DLCs as quickly as possible then you would have to still beat 2 great souls and the entire DLCs themselves, and the path from majula to shrine of winter is really short.
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>>138175980
>DS2 levels of poise
so it's useless again?
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>>138176039
>>138176043
>le
Is this the power of shitposting?
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>>138176043
fume is literrly one of the best boses in any souls game, only beaten by fallen kind alant/flame lirker.

>>138176083
Yes get your toxic shit taste checked.

Fume knight is better than every dark souls 1 boss.
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>>138176038
>bad hitbox green kalameet
>good

>big guy in armour
>good

>big guy in armour with swarm of trash mobs
>good
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>>138175942
Yeah the game's been pretty fucked up, best bet is to just kill yourself.
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Exclusive Dark Souls 3 PC footage got leaked, you guys saw it yet?
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>>138176083
The fuck is this, glad I skipped DkS2.
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>>138175210
DaS3 feels like it's trying to capture the magic of the previous games, but it isn't quite there. It tries to cover up it's shortcomings with pandering and fanservice, but dig beneath that and you'll find an ultimately hollow experience that doesn't really do anything special in it's own right. It's every bit a soulless sequel as DaS2 was, but at least that game tried to do something different.
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>>138175882
>Sanctuary Guardian
Flat out worse version of Sinh and gets reused as a common enemy to boot
>Artorias, Manus
As I said, completely and utterly trivial fights if you don't kneecap yourself by wearing light/no armor.

Give me a video of someone slapping on havels then R1'in Rime or Alonne to death like you can with Manus or Arotrias.

And no I won't try to sell aldia and nashadra as better because YOU said that the BEST of DS2 can't compete with the best of DS1, aldia and nashandra are not the best of DS2.
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>>138176083
>You don't get damaged if you dodge the enemy's attack
Wow, what a shit boss.
>>138176176
Good thing no other boss is like that, oh wait.
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>>138176156
>fume is literrly one of the best boses
>telegraphed attacks the boss
Sure the best.
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>>138175938
>Recoloured Nashandra
>Worse Kalameet
>NPC Gank Squad

>Generic Knight No.16
>Generic Knight No.17
>Recoloured Smelter Demon

>Worse Sif with a gimmick
>Generic Knight No.18
>Worse Sif Gank Team

I will never understand why people praise the Dark Souls 2 DLC bosses.
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I enjoyed imported DeS
I enjoyed localized DeS
I enjoyed PS3 DaS
I enjoyed PC DaS (including the DLC)
I enjoyed PC DaS2
I enjoyed PC DaS2 DLC (and SotFS)
I enjoyed BB
I enjoyed BB DLC

I didn't like all of them equally but I had fun with every single one.

I'm looking forward to playing DaS3 a lot!
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>>138176319
>difficulty is the only aspect of a good boss

spot the DS2drone
go beyond LE DEATH XD
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>>138176212
ok i killed myself
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>>138175991
Alonne only feels amazing until you realize that if you just start running away from him, none of his attacks will hit you. He doesn't have moves you can't escape simply by turning away from him and running, then dashing back in for a running attack.
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>>138176116
Works in PvE against normal sized enemies
Pretty worthless in PvP outside of hyperarmor
Can't tank bosses for shit
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QUICK! DO I GO MERCENARY OR PYRO?
That twinblade breaking into 2 weapons is sick but I love that pyro set and stat distribution without going deprived and having to use gold coin starting gift.
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>>138176083
you can kill ludwig in seconds with pellets or kill gehrman in 4 parries

what's your point, dummy?
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>>138176086
No, you bow, period. The only game that had letting you buff as part of the honor code was DeS.

>>138176156
Fume was shit tier. He plays like 90% of the other bosses in DaS2 (big dude with big weapon). That WebM is the first time I ever fought him.

Now compare him to something like the Orphan of Kos.

>>138176236
>No one cheats on PC, we swear
-PC anons
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Areas in DaS2 that are literally no fun to play through. Terrible design, ugly aesthetics, and/or awful enemy placement
>No Man's Wharf
>Huntsman's Copse
>Sinner's Rise
>Harvest Valley
>Earthen Peak
>Iron Keep
>Shaded Woods
>Doors of Pharos
>Grave of Saints
>Black Gulch
>Shrine of Amana
that's quite the depressingly high proportion of total zones in the game
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>>138176335
better than anything in dark souls 1. every boss was worse than trash tier in that shitty game.
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>>138176394
>I enjoyed PC DaS2
>I enjoyed PC DaS2 DLC (and SotFS)
Fuck off
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>>138176394
You are a good man anon.
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DEX bro here.

Still can't figure out what weapon to take.
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>>138176394
kys
we are trying to make the das2 babies cry.
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>>138176294
This. Those animations are fucking vomit tier.
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>>138176516
corvian grrrrrrt scythe
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>>138176394
No way, you're supposed to hate DaS2 because it's CLEARLY the worst game ever and not an improvement in every single way over the previous titles.
Only plebs would admit to liking it.
Get a load of this guy
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>>138176419
When did I say it was the only thing, I said if a boss fight is trivial to beat then it is not a good boss fight.
Difficulty is a part of what makes a good boss, its not all of it but at the same time it's not something that can be ignored.
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>>138175753
J U B I L A N T
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>>138176560
Too bad difficulty is literally the only thing the DS2 dlc bosses have going for them. Designs are unremarkable as hell and their movesets are nothing special.
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>>138176460
Are you stupid?
Gherman and Ludwig don't just fucking swing a big sword.
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>>138176460
Yes, you can, but both of them will wreck your anus the first time you fight them. Meanwhile, I casually strolled through the Fume fight just because he is not that hard and plays like all the other big dudes with big weapons.
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>>138176467
Only ones I'd agree with are No Man's Wharf and Shrine of Amana.
Iron keep is easily one of the best areas in the series
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Mother fucker
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>Tell my friend i'm hyped for the game but have spoiled myself on the bosses
>Tell him first boss is Ludex Gundyr is making a second appearance later in the game
>He gets fucking mad as shit at me, to the point where I don't think we'll co-op anymore once the game drops

wew lad
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>>138176554
you were fine til you said DaS2 was an improvement.
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>>138176646
yes becuese DAS1 had such great bosses/

DAS1 boses are pretty much agreed to be the worst in theseries

DaS1 fags on suicide watch.
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>>138176646
Yes the extremely memorable moveset of artorias "sweeep swooop I'm a sword guy but hey I can do flips, also berskerk" of arotrias and "bleeeeeee random whailing movements" of Manus.
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>>138176535
Not just the animations, that bland as fuck boss design and shit boss level design.

I'd like to say something positive about it but I really don't know what to point out, maybe the flaming sword I guess.
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Playing through Dark Souls 2 again, is the dragonrider halberd worth using on non-int runs or is the scaling and mixed damage only good when you have a good amount of INT.
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>>138176772
>Ludex
>L
kys my man
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>>138176463
>honorcode
>putting tablebabbies on the same level with the guy from the webm
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>>138176772
>Ludex
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who thought that it was a good idea for ultra weapons to not auto-track when locked on in DaS2? That defeats the entire purpose of locking on, it's retarded
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>>138176721
>Yes, you can, but both of them will wreck your anus the first time you fight them.
except i killed both first try

>>138176881
shit
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>>138176798
>DAS1 boses are pretty much agreed to be the worst in theseries
Agreed by whom?
Stop pretending your opinion is a fact shared by majority.
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>>138176898
>>138176925
w-what is his name not ludex?
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Can we all finally agree that all Souls games are equally fucking shit? This "LE SOULS GAMES ARE LE GOOD XDDD" meme has gone for far too long.
Also if you want to play something similar to Souls except not putrid shit, you guys really need to check out Nioh. It's also exclusive to PS4 so there are no autistic mehmehs and hackers ruining the game.
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>>138176319
>worse version of Sinh
Going to have to disagree there. Sinh is plagued by the fact that his fight's pace is entirely dictated by how long he wants to stay in the air. Sanctuary Guardian only has attacks that lead him back to the ground, where as Sinh can make a game of fireballs going into dives across the arena.

>a common enemy
The only time you can fight more is fighting two at once. That's not exactly "common".

Besides, there's nothing to say that's actually a weak point for a boss. It's a very common tactic in video games to reintroduce a boss you killed earlier, it gives the player a sense of progression of their abilities to see something that took them so much effort to kill before being something they can handle now.

>Give me a video of someone slapping on havels then R1'in Rime or Alonne to death like you can with Manus or Arotrias.

I'll ask you for the same here. I'm going to guess it's not quite the complete non issue you're painting it.
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>All these shitters who hate DaS2 regretting buying DaS3 when it's literally DaS2 with improved graphics and better areas on the 12th
I can't wait to taste the tears
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What is it that makes people like Fume Knight as opposed to the endless piles of other Humanoid Knight bosses in DS2?

>Yeah man the Pursuer, Looking Glass Knight, Lost Sinner, Ruin Sentinels, Old Dragon Slayer, Smelter Demon, Velstadt, Vendrick, Dragon Rider, Twin Dragon Riders and Throne Watcher and Defender were all pretty disappointing generic knight bosses where you just roll through their super telegraphed attacks and poke them in the butt.

>OH BUT FUME KNIGHT AND ALONNE ARE GREAT! AMAZING BOSSES!

I literally do not fucking get what the difference is.
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>>138176843
Fucking moon connections, man.
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>>138176925
T R A P P Y - C H A N
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>>138176948
Do you mean the weapon is always shit, or just without INT?
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Should i just make it raw once it is +10?
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>>138176881
>Playing through Dark Souls 2 again
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>>138176728
>Iron keep is easily one of the best areas in the series
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>>138177042
>literally DaS2 with improved graphics and better areas
That's DaS1.
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>>138176721
>I casually strolled through the Fume
Uhuh, that's why you had no souls on you because you just happened to spend exactly all of them before the boss right?

>>138176872
>boss level design.
It is at the bottom of the tower you enter at the start, you can see ash falling down into the center of the tower as you progress downards and you can see ash falling inside the boss arena
Multiple broken up and buried statues that you encountered before in the DLC and in the base game, boss weapon is on the ground and he spawns up and drags himself up by holding onto it
He is defending her waifu and that is the only thing past him.

Nigga get real you would have praised the shit out of it for being deep, interesting and interconnected had it been in 1.
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>>138176815
Artorias's move set was quite a bit different than most of the bosses in DaS1.

The problem with DaS2 wasn't that they had big dudes with big weapons, it was that they had way too many of them.

>>138176948
Post videos.

>>138177049
Alonne is the only one that is somewhat different, which is why I am confused about people praising fume instead of him.
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>>138176815
Let's hear you describe your favorite Dark Souls II bosses. Literally anything can be reduced to sounding silly if you go "lmao here's a gross exaggeration or simplification so wacky XD", it just makes you sound childish.
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>>138177102
even on an int build it's pretty mediocre
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>>138177114
I have done it before and souls game releases. I play all the other ones in a marathon. Already did DeS, DaS, BB, I just left DaS2 to last because it's my least favorite
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>>138177112
>DS2
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>>138177179
>Has sword
>Attacks you with sword
Wow, so different.
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>>138177112
no, look at how it fucks down the scaling
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>>138176959
pretty much everyone. V is an extreme minority.
>>138177137
is that hwy DAS2 has much better graphics than DAS1?
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>>138176964
it's Iudex, not ludex, duh
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>>138177179
Even Alonne is just another knight boss in a square featureless room from my perspective. Boring arena, generic fight. If there's something that makes him stand out to you I cannot see it.
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>>138177049
their movesets are better you retarded monkey

the vanilla humanoid bosses are very meek -- they have 1 or 2 combos that they repeat endlessly, and they have basically nothing that punishes the player getting close and circling around their left shoulder.

Alonne and Raime can perform mixups, so they keep you on your toes, do tons of damage compared to most of the vanilla bosses, and have a variety of moves that punish common humanoid cheese tactics, or at least counter them.

plus, there is nothing wrong with the Lost Sinner, Smelter Demon, or Ruin Sentinels
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>>138177049
>What is it that makes people like Fume Knight
Because /dsg/ is full of shitters, hyping the most bland boss of the series as the hardest one just because the pc cucks never learned to git gud the legit way.
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>>138176964
It's iudex
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BB=DaS3>DaS1:Prepare to Die Edition>SOTFS>DeS>DaS2
Objectively the best opinion.
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How moddable do you thing DS3 will be in the end?
More freedom as in DS2? Will we finally be able to get rid of phantom colors, or other unwated effects and elements that we could not get around in DS2, or will it be the same/harder?
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>PCucks will NEVER EVER get Bloodborne
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>>138177317
>DAS2 has much better graphics than DAS1?
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>>138177434
can we please not do this
and this is coming from a person playing souls and BB both on PC and PS4
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Is this amount of shitposting because it's weekend? It usually seems to start much later.
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>>138176463
>honor
>pcuck
>fume is shit tier
pure fucking cancer
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>>138177434
>PCucks will never get the mediocre shallow dumbed down action spinoff

good . edgedark trash
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>>138176721
>fighting an early game boss in NG with a SL150 character
wew
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>>138177384
>DaS1 over anything
>BB even on the list
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>>138177016
>his fight's pace is entirely dictated by how long he wants to stay in the air
And Sacntuary Guardian's pace is entirely dictated by often he decided to charge across the arena and attack you from range.
At least Sinh has interesting moves if you do manage to get close to him, guardian does not.
It's just a dull game of running after him as he charges around from one side of the arena to the other.

> I'm going to guess it's not quite the complete non issue you're painting it.
Sorry to dissapoint because it is, with any decent big weapon you will out DPS Arotrias easily and break his poise faster, with havels you don't have to worry about a thing since you can always just chug away. Died to him once on my first playthrough and because I got greedy and traded instead of chugging, beat him on my second try with 0 effort.
Manus was 1 attempt to beat.

You really should go do zweihander/claymore/black knight sword/greatsword + havels build of DS1 and see how much of a difference not being able to facetank some of the bosses makes and what a complete bitch Artorias and Manus turn into.
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>>138177049
Fume gets by on being the best example of the archetype in DaS2. His attacks are designed to catch poor rolling and mistaken attacks, his phase 2 actually changes the fight, and he's got a good presentation and presence in the lore. There's more of a reason to care about Raime. Add to that his winrate and the community response to him and his hype sort of builds on itself.

He's "Good" in a game of "Okay" and that makes him feel almost "Great".
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>>138177482
you must be blind then. have you compared the two?
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why is this niqqa in this memory
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>>138177434
>so buttblasted he resorts to false flagging
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>>138177371
damn I feel like a moron. thanks this was an honest mistake on my part
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>>138177585
>At least Sinh has interesting moves if you do manage to get close to him, guardian does not.

top kek
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>>138177613
He's been going through the same shit you have.
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>>138177568
Found the Tanimura shitter.
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>>138177310

But i can't upgrade it more than +10?

Or can i?
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>Its a /v/ shitposting episode
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>>138177674
>people still scapegoating Tanimura
Found the /v/ermin.
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>>138177112
Black.
Make sure the weapon you are trying to infuse is equipped
Click Y/whatever it is on the PS4 controller/right click on the damage numbers on the right side with your mouse and choose "switch".

On the right side it will now show you the TOTAL damage of your first/second/third slot weapon, makes figuring out if you get damage or lose damage from infusions much easier.
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>>138177156
I have no souls on my because I am using the Agape ring. I am already at the level/SM I want to be and don't want to inflate my SM.

>>138177306
>>138177354
moveset matters. Alonne is fast and relentless and has those annoying slide attacks.

It's not much, but it is enough to set him apart, even slightly, from all the other BGBWs.

>>138177359
>Lost Sinner,
Shitty boss that cheats

Smelter Demon,
BGBW

Ruin Sentinels
circle strafe and smack on the but the boss: the movie: the book: the fight

>>138177542
What a brilliant retort *eye roll*

>>138177553
If they game didn't want me being that level then it shouldn't have shit souls all over me while also having a system in place to punish me for wasting them.
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>>138177112
doesn't it have A or S scaling? why make it raw? it makes no difference WHEN you infuse a weapon but if you're uncertain of the infusion, make it +10 first to see the scaling. equipping it allows you to see how the ar changes, along with the scaling
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>>138177761
filtered
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>>138177761
>*eye roll*
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>>138177728
Upgrades make a weapon flat out better
Titanite is used for normal weapons
Twinkeling is used for special weapons
Dragonbone is used for boss soul weapons

Infusions just make a weapon scale differently, if you are doing a DEX/STR playthrough then there is next to no reason to infuse anything ever, infusions are for poison/bleed gimmick or INT/Faith/a combination of the two builds.
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>>138177761
are you really a neet tho?
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>>138177871
>triggered
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>>138177761
>All the good tripfriends left this general ages ago
>This faggot is still here
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>>138175481
I'm not sure why so many people like Dark Souls the most. Honestly the movement feels like shit and so does everything else. Demon's Souls feels great and it has a darker feel than Dark Souls.
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>>138177871
>>138177906
>>138177971
>>138177985
he's not wrong though
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>>138177985
>good tripfags
Anon you are not making any sense.
I heard reddit and neogaf have a lot of these so called "tripfags" perhaps what you are looking for would be found there.
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>>138176394
Same here.
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>>138177585
Sanctuary Guardian has combos, a slam, sweeps, a charge-past, a pounce, and it's wing attack at close range. Your definition of interesting here seems to be self serving. What is it that Sinh can do that is so much better? As I recall he can swipe his claws, breathe fire down his crotch or side, or spin his tail.

>Sorry to dissapoint because it is

I'm only disappointed you haven't coughed up a video either.
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>>138178053
put your trip back on
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>>138177728
no, but look at the scaling. The rapier has D scaling in strength, and B in dex. Meaning the damage will scale off your dex and str level, and since it has better dex scaling a higher dex level would be better.
but if you make it raw, the scaling goes down to E in both, and at the point scaling is pretty much useless.
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>>138178108
>ebic samefag meme :D
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>>138177613
Time is convoluted.
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>>138176757
I loved that NPC. I wish there were more like him.
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>>138178053
He is though, and have been proven otherwise, and even agreed on some points, but every time we go to square fucking one because he can't stand people finding Fume even a remotely dangerous boss, despite him being designed explicitly to be the ultimate shitter filter.
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>>138178046
>and it has a darker feel than Dark Souls

Is there a faster way to tell someone is under the age of 14 or a pleb when they use "darker" as a positive quality in an absolute way?
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>>138178084
>Sanctuary Guardian has combos, a slam, sweeps, a charge-past, and it's wing attack at close range
Sinh has those + fire breathing from long range + standing up to breath fire down on himself if you try to fuck his tail + a spin to win attack.

As I said SG is just a flat out worse version of Sinh. The issue with both bosses boils down to the fact that they will often just run away from you and can make the fight really tedious if the AI just decided to be a bitch, Sinh just has more moves overall so he is the better fight.
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>>138178190
I would like him if he didn't have a gorillion HP and lances' hitboxes weren't so broken.
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When I grow up, I am going to marry the Firekeeper!!
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>that pyromancer lady you can summon for the Demon King fight in Old Izalith is using a whip that has the Spotted Whip model
Nigga what
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>>138177761
>telling people to play by your "obligated rules"
>thinking you're some hot shit because of all the minmaxing anyone is capable of
You're a narcissist so your opinion lacks any credibility. Stop posting and fuck off for all eternity, no one wants you here.
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>>138170421
>You are supposed to do that in a fight club, especially at the beginning of the fight

Don't make me laugh anon, the point of the fight is to not let your opponent win, why would you give him higher chances of that willingly?

If I see some fucker buffing when he does it in front of me I'm going to attack him if he wanted to buff he should have done so before hand or even when an opportune time shows up from him to for example if I'm backstabbed.
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>>138178296
Hitboxes are fine, what ticks me off are the complete 180's his magical tracking gives him.
Thank god he doesn't actually do lightining damage and can be fucked over with Seed in both of his encounters
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>>138178336
D L C
L
CUCKED FOR MONEY
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>defending das2 ever
But why?
It's the lowest point in the series.
Literally everything wrong with videogames nowadays summed up in a single game, DaS2.
Just why? Are you all scamco shills?
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>>138178259
Everything must be sunshine and rainbows, huh
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>>138177632
>you were indicted
I love it.
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>>138178279
there goes my hero
watch him as he falls
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Give me a reason to use Moonlight Greatsword in DS3
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>>138178470
Yep, thats exactly what I said. Gold Star!
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>>138178442
It had a handful of decent design decisions and ideas that were discarded and not included in 3 purely based on the hate game recieved.
That's about it.
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>>138178442
>sotfs, hard, 0 gimmick bosses

>Dark Souls 1
>Every boss but O&S is a joke
>easy

?
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>>138178282
I don't see a slam, a charge-past or a wing attack in Sinh's repertoire.
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>>138178259
tch, get lost kid. go back to kiddie souls.
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>>138178252
So Fume should only be impressive to shitters. There is no reason we should find him remotely dangerous. I mean, you're not a shitter, are you?

>>138178370
>You're a narcissist so your opinion lacks any credibility.
No, that is a baseless ad hominem. Sure, I am arrogant as all hell. Not even I deny that, but it doesn't magically make my arguments null and void, kiddo. That's not how logic works.

>>138178414
This. As long as you don't hit them during their bow, it is all good. Why should you wait for them to buff, especially if you aren't buffing yourself?

>>138178531
You want to be a special snowflake.
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>tfw you invade, then soon after another invader appears

It's really nice to have an ally once in a while, especially when fighting jap gamksquads.
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>>138178510
It doesn't really mean anything because some people end up buying it and just press "yes" because why not and others want to give blues any higher chance at all for invasions.
But it still feels good.
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>>138178259
Or perhaps I could be just throwing a little bit of irony in there because Dark Souls and Demon's Souls. Hueheuhuhuheuhue. Get it? Probably not considering how you illustrate yourself.

Another reason why I mentioned that is because I've commonly seen people say that Dark Souls is better because it has a darker feel. Such as the way the story was told and the overall look of the game being gloomy.
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>>138177761
let's check:

assylum demon:BGBW:shit
Bed of chaos: platforming:Shit
Black dragon:what is this trash:Shit
Capra demon:BGBW:Shit
Ceasless discharge: literally shit
centipede demon:actually kind of funNOT:SHIT
Spider girl:BGBW:Shit
crossbreed priscila:BGBW:Shit
dark sun tranny:Tranny tier:Shit gimmicky fight
Demon Firesage:BGBW:Shit
fat ass, and orni:x2 BGBW:Shit(actually fun the first time)
Four kings:artifical difficulty the Fight:Shit
pussy dragon:not actually that bad:Meh
Nito:lol I can't attack my legs:Shit
Gwyn:Parrying the boss:Shit
Iron Golem:more like TARKUSSSS:kinda cool,becuese TARKUSSSSS
Maus:lol:Shit
Moonlight butterfly:Archery the boss:Shit
Pinwheel:not even worth being called a boss:double shit
Santurary Guardian:Shit:even more Shit
Seath:lol WHAT IS FPS:Shit
Sif:Sadness ensues:Sadness(probally my favorite boss fight in DAS1, mostly thanks to the emotional attachment you get to him)
Stray Demon:BGBW:shit
Taurus Demon:BGBW/LOLCLIFF:Cliff tier shit.
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>>138168181
It looks good on thicc characters
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Has anyone tested Frostbite in PvP yet?

Does it go through shields the same way that it does in PvE?

I'm curious if it could be the answer to the Havestoc meta. The Irithyll straight sword seems like it could inflict a lot of buildup against turtles with it's R1 spam.
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>>138178612
DS3
The vast majority of the bosses are either flat out gimmick fights like Yorhn or multi enemy bosses, shit even dragonslayer armor gets some stupid off fight help from the flying nerve bundles.

They really took the wrong lesson from the "too many dudes in armor" criticism that DS2 got.

>>138178670
He does the slam when recovering from breathing fire, go stand under his front legs when is doing it to find out how fun that shit is
And I'm afraid that if you don't see Sinh having a charge attack then you have flat out never fought him since it is the first thing he does every time you enter the boss room, and then does variants of it to land.
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>>138178729
a large chunk of the community seeing indictments as an "im salty" button is why blueberries are dead
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What should I do with boss souls?
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It's amazing how shitposting suddenly goes through the roof when the tripfag appears.
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what's up with Old Demon King, why is he so angry?
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>>138178313
When I grow up, I am going to bully the Firekeeper!!
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>>138178259
>Darker
>HURR MUST BE EDGY
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Is the claymore still in Dark Souls 3?
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>>138178846
If you try to just mash into them to build it up they will shieldpoke you and win the trade.
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>>138178259
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0kJm4VGnDuJ
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>>138178426
I guess you're right. He does track when you roll out of his charge attack.
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>>138178981
Why wouldnt it be?
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>>138178878
>And I'm afraid that if you don't see Sinh having a charge attack then you have flat out never fought him since it is the first thing he does every time you enter the boss room, and then does variants of it to land.

We're talking about at close range here. That's his midrange gap closer. He uses it to get next to you when he is distant.

Sanctuary's charge-past is designed to give him an attack he can use to escape from close range to midrange.

The same issue applies with the slam. He does that at the end of long/mid-range attacks once he's closed the gap.
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>>138178943
theres a giant worm blocking him and he cant get out from that shithole
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>>138178812
>assylum demon:BGBW

Stopped reading right there.
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>>138178960
>stick your hand in someone's gut and squeeze to get washed with his blood
>drinking blood
>and the other shit
>not edgy
come on dood
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>>138179064
>Sanctuary's charge-past is designed to give him an attack he can use to escape from close range to midrange.
And Sinhs version of that is just flapping his wings and flying up.

>The same issue applies with the slam. He does that at the end of long/mid-range attacks once he's closed the gap.
And Sinh does his slam as a followup to another attack in case you decided to try and wait under him.
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>>138178958
>more fanservice
Hurgh not even das1 was this desperate
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>>138178695
>So Fume should only be impressive to shitters. There is no reason we should find him remotely dangerous. I mean, you're not a shitter, are you?
I find the general idea behind him impressive, and the way he is designed to counter cheap cheesy strats amusing. If you can't appreciate design choices even behing fairly easy bosses like Old Monk/LGK summons, then I can only pity you.
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Don't you all feel blessed that we live in the era of MIYAZAKI? Think of all the era's and time periods that we all could have been born in, and yes, there would be other cool stuff, but nothing as spectacular as Souls, and definitely nobody around creating things the way Miyazaki does, the guy is insanely brilliant, I want to crawl inside his brain.

Miyazaki has shown me that video games really are a high form of art, and not only that, but the greatest form of art. What other medium can you both be an active participant, and also the master of? Thanks, Miyazaki (and mom and dad).


Miyazaki and FromSoft have already left their mark on this medium, and myself, and I can only smile when I think of the new worlds they are building for us to explore as we speak. Whatever is next is going to be amazing.
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>>138179125
well he is a big guy, and he does have a big weapon. so you must be salty over the fact that dark souls 1 has even worse bosses than DAS2????
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>>138178436
Seriously, I was wondering why Demon King was getting poisoned so fast. She was using poison mist along with the spotted whip. That's kinda bullshit that they put it in but not let the player have it. DaS3 has dropped the ball so many times.
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>>138177632
a shame they didn't bring back the dark souls 1's "well what is it", I think it's much better than the static das2/3 variant.
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>>138178998
Does it even build up enough to matter though?

Things like bleed and poison barely go through shields at all, so they're completely useless. I'm curious of frostbite can actually build up enough to matter.

In PvE, it seems to go through shields pretty well, but no idea if PvP works the same way.
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>stuck on bell gargoyle
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>>138179280
Maybe we just haven't found it yet
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>>138179184
>I find the general idea behind him impressive
Lucky for us you don't work for FROM.
Or perhaps...
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>>138179312
Welcome served a different purpose and I personally found it far more fun but thats just me.
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>>138179408
..How?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XiKIQ9Ow9w

he's just running a train on these japanese players... is oroboro the best pvp player in the world?
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>>138179160
>And Sinhs version of that is just flapping his wings and flying up.

That's not an attack though, it's just "fuck you, I am leaving now". As for the slam, I rewatched Sinh footage and I haven't seen him use it after anything other than his charge or dive. Unless you can show me otherwise, I'm not seeing a situation where he uses the slam as a close range attack.
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Can someone give me a quick explanation of the forest hunter covenant? Do i just join and wait around in there? Do I have to not kill sif to invade tresspassers? Do i have to not kill sif to count as a trespasser?

Is it easier to just be a dickwraith and red orb into the forest?
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>>138179408
you can suck on my bell gargoyle if you know what I mean
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>people are still bitching about a shitton of (self-)references/fanservice in a FROM game
Do you still expect anything else? Have you ever played AC or any of their other games? It's a developer staple. I can understand not liking it but it's been there forever and it's there to stay.
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>>138179408
>bell gargoyle
>singular
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>>138179420

This.

The cobra women in the Archdragon Peak drop their staves. They might drop their whips, too.
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>>138178336
What's her name in English? And does anyone have a screenshot of her?
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>>138178695
>No, that is a baseless ad hominem, kiddo.
Thanks for proving my point hypocrite.
>That's not how logic works.
It sure does when most of your "logic" is based on your opinion. Any boss/mechanic can be broken down outside it's intended use and saying "X is shit or Y is the rule" is meaningless. When you're a self-centered piece of shit who slap a nametag to get recognition for DIY tech it's hard to take you seriously.
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I have a 6870. Should I bother buying?

Now that revised specs says 7950 which is retarded compared to novidya 750Ti.
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>>138179408

just summon the dude if you have issues
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>>138179482
You can be human or not, in the forest or not, Sif can be dead or not. I usually cracked red eye orb (have to be human for that and best off killing the area boss) somewhere else while wearing the forestfag ring.
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>>138179471
>I rewatched Sinh footage
I would recommend playing the game but I know thats too much to ask from someone like you.
He does it every time after a fire breath to counter him standing right below him.

I will stand by my point both bosses are marred by the fact that they tend to run away and make it a chase fight, Sinh just has more moves which makes him more interesting to fight.
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>>138179458
>hitting people with a 500 damage lightning strike before they know the fights been initiated
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>>138179513
this. you're in for a rind
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>>138179457
they cornered me and then either hit me to death or push me off the roof

>>138179491
what do you mean?

>>138179623
how?
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yo senpaitachi

finna chomp on dat dark souls HYPE

Is DS3 gonna use VAC?
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>>138179482
if you kill Sif you get kicked from the covenant. If you join it you just have to wear the cat ring and it'll eventually invade someone. (You can take it off when you're in their world)
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>>138179280
Until the PC release we have no idea whether it's actually possible to acquire or not.
People been whining about how impossible it is to get blue lothric knight armour as well, yet it's actually available, and I'm pretty sure we still don't know how.
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GOD DAYUM THERE'S SKELETONS EVERYWHERE
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>>138179587
what's the last game you could run at a stable 30 FPS
if it's from the last 3 years YOU ARE FINE
I can't comprehend how people are so scared of the gayman pc not running the game when it's already been said the game is well optimised
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>>138178510
These kind of posts are why blue covenant didn't work in DaSI
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>>138179713
Upgrade your damn weapon nigga, Gargoyles are a sort of check for that, they are pretty hard to beat with base weapons but become a total joke with any +5 or higher weapon.
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>>138179713
get a +5 weapon
2hand
use a resin

there, now you can dps the first one to death before the second one spawns
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>>138179434
>uncheesable bosses are bad
Even Ludwig/Orphan become bitches to a fully upgraded whirlgig with fire/bolt paper.
Only way to "cheese" Reimu is to get a fully upgraded craftsman hammer, which is incomparable to the power that is pizzacutter.
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>>138179713
I'm referring to you and I having sexual relations where you might be willing to do oral sex.

and you have to be human to summon help
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How are crossbows in ds3? is there finally going to be some buffs, like faster recovery/reload when 2 handing?
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>>138168942
I feel you
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>>138179771
meme gear 5 runs perfect on my system.
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>>138179184
Don't try to strawman. I found the Old Monk in DeS to be highly impressive.

>>138179254
1. It's not even a guy, it is a giant monster. At the very least that changes shit up visually. You can't really say the same about the Smelter because he looks and plays like a human in armor. Hell, you can even get that armor set after beating him.

2. Tutorial bosses tent to get a pass. They are supposed to be somewhat easy and familiar. It's part of their role. The are there to teach you.

No salt here. I am just not going to engage further if you aren't even going to pretend to be serious. I know you are just shit posting, but at least make your claims believable or shutting your shit down just isn't any fun.

>>138179581
Again, you are attacking me personally, while ignoring the points I actually made. Just because something is based on opinion doesn't mean you can't debate it and defend it based on logical reasoning.
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>>138179838
>upgraded craftsman hammer
Nigga Rapiers are the end all be all of DS2 anti boss weapons and have been ever since hexes got the nerf bat.
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>>138179660
>I would recommend playing the game but I know thats too much to ask from someone like you.

I already played the game, and I played BB and DaS3 after that. I can't remember literally everything one boss two games ago does, and I'm not going to redownload it when footage of the fight exists. If he does it "every time", it shouldn't be difficult to find a clip of it happening.

I frankly disagree that Sinh has more moves. For instance, you're saying Sinh's equivalent to Sanctuary Guardian's charge-past is him flying up into the air, an action which requires nothing from you, no dodging or blocking, he just goes. That's not an "interesting" interaction to me, it's Sinh taking a moment out of the fight to refuse to interact with the player.
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>>138166715
Either not online, constantly in the process of being invaded, softbanned, or in an area you cant use them.
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>>138179713
If you're human, you can summon both Solaire and Lautrec for the fight (Lautrec is a giant overkill though).
Their summon signs are right before you enter the fight, couldn't be more clear.

Upgrade your weapon to +5, use Resin.

Bell Gargoyles are rather easy desu.
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>>138179908
ur fine
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>>138175942
namco pressed off button.
Online is no more
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So how long is ds3 and is it good? I know about the 100 new weapons and 45 neq sets but any new magic? Whats new in magic. Does it really have all that content. What I really want to now if it has a lot of lore and along with its theme /story. Unlike ds2 that made me feel that I went nowhere for 50 hours once I beat it
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>>138179916
smelter demon isn't a guy either then, your trying to have your cake and eat it. it doesn't work that way, if Assulyum demon isn't a BGBW, then most of dark souls2 boses are not either.

you don't get it both ways.
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>>138180064
bullshit
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>>138169492
the surrounding area that you dont go in anor londo
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>>138179969
>Lautrec is a giant overkill though

Lautrec is also a silly bastard who tries to parry both the Gargoyles and Gaping Dragon. Spoiler: It does not go well for him.
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>>138174208
why on earth were you trying to backstab Jester?
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>>138179946
>he just goes
And then proceeds to
Land on top of your dumb ass
Divebomb you
Flame breath divebomb you
Hover in the air shooting fireballs that leave lingering Toxic clouds.

Sinh also has 3 different fire breath attacks while on the ground, one for when you are away from him, one for if you are behind him and one if you are to his side.

Then he has his charge attack, his head swipe, his bite, his claw sweep that he can either to a single one or combo, his tail sweep and his spin attack.

Sinh has more moves and that is all there is to it.

Now go reinstall DS1, grab havels take a big weapons and report back to me about how big of a bitch artorias was if you could just stand still and facetank everything he could do and stunlock him out of ever charging up.
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>>138175942
try this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvII-WJWo5s

just find 1 or 2 people and force a connection to them, then it'll start connecting you to their nodes as well.
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>>138180064
PKEKS BTFO
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reminder that your favorite trap has been killed and eaten by a dragon
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>>138179930
Craftsman Hammer is objectively better.
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>>138180157
If you liked DaS 2, you'll love it, since it is a direct improvement.
If you're a DaS babby though, I doubt it.
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>>138180012
okay, good luck on your journey anon
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>>138180278
>there are people who never brought a greatbow to the Sinh fight
do you even dragonslayer?
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>>138180157
>100 new weapons

26 weapons
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>>138180197
I'm actually curious to why his AI thinks that's a good idea.

Also, why the fuck can you PARRY the black tower knight inside the church, but not RIPOSTE it? I've never understood that.
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>>138180321
Which is why every speedrunner uses the Rapier.
Hammer is slightly better for some enemies and the fact that you don't have to wear knuckle ring, Rapier is flat out better for all bosses and normal PvE if you just use the R1's to break poise.

>muh strike damage
Is a shitty meme that wasn't ever true to begin with, if you want it that bad go grab the KUGS
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>>138180178
I just explained to you why it is different in the post you are replying to.

You might want to get that ADHD checked out.
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in which game out of des, ds1 and ds2 is armor/defence the best?

replaying all of them and wanted to do at least one tank build
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>>138180357
good bait
it's direct sequel to 1, 2 is all but ignored
>>
If this is the final ds game saying goodbye with a throw back too ds1, does it have crazy waifus again? Is big titty women real version in?
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>>138180507
Meant to say R1's
You R1 enemies who get broke by it alone like royal swordsmen or enemies whos poise is too hard to break with single hits like Syans/ruin sentinels
You R2 enemies who get broke by it with every attack like the Alonne Knights or giant jailors
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>>138180603
DLC
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>>138180507
You do realize that what is best for a speed run isn't always what is best for the game in general, right?
>>
anyone wanna have a /dsg/ only arena in ds2?

2.6 sm in the crypt entrance come along you sexy person, throw your sign down by the bonfire and we'll have some fun
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>>138180591
>Caring about lore
The gameplay and locations are literally DaS2 2.0
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>>138180690
You do realize that the statement was explicitly about bosses right?
No you probably don't because you saw the word "speedrun" and go triggered and made a dumb response like you are know to do.
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>>138180475
>fewer than bloodborne

Jesus christ. Is this true?
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>>138180278
Let's run this by the numbers then.
You've outlined 13 moves Sinh has.

Sanctuary Guardian has:
Swipes
Horn attacks
A slam
A closerange charge-past
A midrange charge
A longrange flying charge
A leaping pounce
The wind attack
Heavy lightning
Light lightning blasts
Lightning strafing
Overhead lightning
Tail sweep
Tail spin
Hindleg kick

If that's all there is to it, like you say, then that IS all there is to it.
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>They brought back the Fume Ultra Lame Sword
>They didn't bring back the best weapon from DS2

Bravo From Software.
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>>138177049
Velstadt, Throne Defender/Watcher, LGK, Smelter and Pursuer are still great, just not as great as Fume and Alonne.

Ruin Sentinels and Lost Sinner are pretty good as well.
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>>138180475

>26 weapons
Wait what? Thats a joke right.
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>>138180550
and demon also has a similar moveset to a human, again you don't get to pick and choose when you call a boss a BGBW.

demon is a BIG GUY, and he has A BIG WEAPON.

he is a BGBW. your just showing your own stupidity now
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>>138180787
It was only good because of it's range, it was nothing special outside of that.
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>>138180787
But the estoc is back and it's almost as good as it was in 2.
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>>138180761
>The gameplay and locations are literally DaS2 2.0

top fucking kek
animations are ripped from DaS 1 and you even go to fucking Anor Londo
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>>138180507
>strike damage is a meme
It really is not.
If you have time to do 2 rapier pokes, you have time to do 2 hammer swings, which would do much more damage.
Doing 3 rapier pokes when it comes to reactionary bosses like Alonne/Fume is just asking to get a katana/pizza paddle slap to the face.
>but low stamina consumption!
Doesn't mean shit if you're doing 2 attacks and then rolling away anyways.
>>
>still defending dark souls 2
>still hating on dark souls 2

Why do you guys waste time like this?

Luci is Luci so he doesn't need to explain himself.
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>>138167924
Anyone know this spears name and what it scales with?
Looks cool as fuck desu
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>>138176394
This. Though DaSo2 got me sour how it came together and BB made me frustrated as all hell sometimes, I'd be a liar if I said I didn't have plenty of fun going through the game including some of the summons and invasions.
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>>138180591
So all the lore from 1 is back and characters too along with it being added upon ? It doesnt feel empty story wise and such? Is there a town hub? How long is it though?
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>>138180883
I've never really liked the Estoc though.

>>138180875
Nigga pls
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>>138180893
>which would do much more damage.
But it doesn't

Again in terms of bosses this really isn't up for debate as literally uses rapiers to do damage.
165% damage from counterhits with robflynn and 200 base damage, rapiers chew through bosses.
This isn't a debate this is plain facts, rapiers are the best thing against bosses in DS2, of you want to argue normal PvE then it boils down to personal preference a lot more, but bosses?
No way, rapiers outdamage everything and they have since miracles and hexes got nerfed
>>
Wheres the best place to get a key that delivers instantly?
Aus internet, not paying 100 dollarydoos
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>>138180762
It doesn't matter. What is best in a speed run is still different, even in boss fights.

>>138180874
BG is anything that looks like a big human in armor. It is why the Smelter Demon counts as a BG but Old Iron King doesn't. Now fuck off, kid.

>>138181109
Had a maxed out estoc and hammer. Hammer did significantly more damage.
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>>138171703
Fuck off
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>>138180651
So huge big titty real verion is not actually in? Where the fuck is she?
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>>138176394
It's a notable issue that people don't seem to think you can criticize any of the games without hating it or staking one of the others as your favorite. You can like something and still admit its faults. Further still, if you love something, you should be able to see even more clearly the parts that make it up and know which are good and which are bad.

If you love the series, you can admit none of the games are perfect.
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>>138180837
he's saying 26 new weapons, the rest are all weapons from DS1 and 2 with each weapon class having largely the same movesets.
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>>138181265
with Flame God Flann in wherever the gods reside in
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>>138181198
i paid 30pounds which was 58 aud, already got the key and preloaded

gamesplanet
link your steam for 5% off
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>>138181198
Semi legal places like g2a and kinguin won't give you a key instantly, you'll have to wait until tuesday. official key reseller greenmangaming on the other hand could perhaps send you a key today? I've recently bought xcom 2 and dragons dogma off of them and both keys were sent days before the actual release. not entirely sure for das3 as I play it on ps4 this time
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>>138180780
Sinh has
1) Slam from standing upright
2) Slam from the air
3) Diving into you
4) Flyover fire breath
5) Hovering fire bombing
6) Claw swipes
7) Head swipes
8) Tail swipes
9) Full body spins
10) Fire below itself
11) Fire off to one side of itself
12) Fire in front of itself
13) Fire that sweeps from one side to the other in front of itself
13) Charge
14) Slam after charge
15) Bite
16) A combo consisting of random head claw and tail swipes
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http://strawpoll.me/7324458
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http://strawpoll.me/7324458

Lets solve this for DaS3
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>>138180263
Just too used to PvE..
>>
>>138181265
She's a whore not your waifu.
>>
>>138172220
That looks so god damn comfy.
>>
Move

>>138180983
>>138180983
>>138180983
>>138180983
>>138180983
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>>138181252
>Estoc is a rapier
Luci I know your an idiot but please at least put in the token effort and try.

What do speedrunners intend to do?
Beat the bosses as fast as possible to progress?
What weapons do they use for doing this?
Rapiers

Simple logic follows that rapiers are by far the best way to deal damage to bosses, this is not up for debate, if it was you would see Hammer runs just like how people used to do Hex runs, but you don't because the rapier is flat out better.
>>
So really 3 is better than 2 lore and story wise right.. theres more of a point than a cruse at least right. Like if this is the final game Im thinking this will actually end it all and clear the questions of the real lore and plot unlike 2 , for good.
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>>138181252
that would be a BH. a big guy just means any boss that is large. again now learn fucking intelligence you mongoloid.

FUCK OFF child.
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>>138181491
>no quality
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>>138181491
In terms of respectability and coolness:

high skill magic player > high skill str player = high skill dex player > bad dexfag > bad strfag > spamming magicshitter
>>
but I don't wanna bully the firekeeper... do I really need to?
>>
>>138181620
>So really 3 is better than 2 lore and story wise right.. theres more of a point than a cruse at least right. Like if this is the final game Im thinking this will actually end it all and clear the questions of the real lore and plot unlike 2 , for good.
Ha.

Na all the endings to 3 are expansions upon what 2 told us already.
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>>138181484
If we're allowed to count claw swipes, head swipes differently from the combo of both as separate attacks, add combo swipes/horns to Sanctuary Guardian's numbers too.
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>>138181440
>games have heavy emphasis on fire and flames
>character is called the God of Fire
>relatively unimportant and never shown
the fuck was the point of him?
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>>138171459
What is that frowny face in the top left corner?
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>>138181860
I mostly did that because you counted his charge as 3 different attacks.
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>>138181491
>>
W-well gonna buy it on steam... I beat 2 but hope its ten times better.. Im not wacthing any streams but its on the new bb engine , how good does it play and look. I guess we havent seen how good pc version looks yet right ? I beat ds2stofs in about 60 hours without doing dlc. Is this just as long or has better quality?
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>>138181863
>*General noises of death and mayhem*
What good animation that was.
>>
>>138181609
>Simple logic follows
No, it doesn't. Speed runners will ignore the best weapon in the game if obtaining it tacks time on to their over all completion time.
>>
>>138181869
Primeval demon, I think.
>>
>>138181902
It's three different animations.
One of them he's even flying during, so I don't see how you'd think that's the same attack.
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>>138182037
>obtaining it tacks time on to their over all completion time.
Because running to the craftsmans hammer takes around 30 seconds?
No if it was actually better than the rapier then it would easily make up the time difference.
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>>138181440
I thought she got away but shes in some god heaven? Are the gods the one controling everything? Does ds3 finally explian the reason behind everything and how it happened?
>>
>>138182027
See >>138182312
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>>138179458
He's real fucking good, but at the same time I hate him for being such a faggot.
>>
>>138182351
>consolefags on suicide watch
>>
So did any of the streamers beat the game yet? Im guessing they are all playing the ps4 version. If they beat it how long did it take ? When did the streamers start playing?
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>>138182351
Cant open up the tube right now but im guessing we finally get to see the bb engine maxed out with actual 60fps?
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>>138182309
>Are the gods the one controling everything? Does ds3 finally explian the reason behind everything and how it happened?
Most of it was explained in 1 and 2, 3 just confirms it.
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>>138179838
>shitty bosses with three moves are bad
Fixed for you retard
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>>138182351
Wait how did they get the game and how is the reshades already? Anyway looks good and it does actually have 60fps and thts with sweetfx.. cool gonna buy it. Just hope it has good lore and plot flow this time. Im guessing snice it has 1 bosses the theme of the game changes like bb.
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>>138182819
Yes, especially after the optimizations introduced by the 1.03 patch. 4k resolution + reshaders if you're into that kind of thing. I'll settle for 1080p60, though, since I don't have the horsepower for 4k.
>>
>>138182306
30s can make or break a run
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>>138183158
Well all I got out of 2 was... it was the darkness so no 2 didnt explain shit. But if 3 confrims what actually happened and who did it then it should be good.
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>>138183331
Streamers got the full game earlier than the rest of the world, so they've had time to make reshades and that kinda stuff.
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>>138183485
in a 2 hour run?
No, if the craftsmans hammer was actually better than the rapier it would easily make up for the lost time, but its not.
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>>138183676
Yes. Speed runs are a race. If you lose to the other guy by 30 secs you still lose.
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>>138183771
And you claimed that the crafstsmans hammer is better for that race than a rapier
And I'm saying that if its not so much better as to make up a 30 second time loss in 2 hour run then its clearly not better.

The end luci you can stop trying to backtrack because you are just flat out wrong here
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>>138183676
>>138183771
DS2:SotFS All Bosses WR is 2:24:48 and uses the Rapier and Red Iron Twinblade

The craftsman's hammer is good, but it can't be much better if it doesn't save on the tiny bit of time it takes to go get it.
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>>138183771
>>138183991
To add to this, every runner goes out of their for a 1 min time loss to grab aromatic ooze in FotFG because it saves time in the long run.
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