/pok/ - Pokken General

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Obligatory WHEN'S MAWILE

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>Machamp opponent facing rank down match
>Completely rape them first round
>The rape continues
>They disconnect just before the final hit

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>>137229250
soon

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>>137229250
WHENS GOLURK

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abba dabba.

>>137229885
>doesn't take hitstun until 50% health
>has Gun Jack's flying drop

that'd be pretty fun.

I hate that the garde mirror basically amounts to whoever can spam faster wins, especially in duel phase. Although then again in duel phase it's "whoever jumps higher with magical leaf" wins.

>>137229041
>/pok/
Is it really that hard to keep a consistent name for a general?

>>137232425
Adding to this, what do against people that just keep rushing me down? I always feel scared to counter since I feel like a lot of characters that do rush down (weavile, pika libre, pikachu) can just grab me out of it for more damage. Not to mention pikachu libres dumb-as-shit monkey flip, I have no idea what to do against that outside of attempting to hit it at startup, because otherwise it seems like it just flies right past my hits and grabs me anyways.

Anyone some late night games?

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Oh boy, tried online tonight for the first time
>Suicune, Braxien, Chandelure, & Mewtwo love spam
>Pikachu Libre is untouchable with the slightest lag
>Animations happen but no damage is given, then proceeded to get rekt/grabbed
>Out grabbed most of the time when initiated first
>learn that the mewtwos can burst attack you on block anyways

Of my 11 loses, 2 were actually close games, the rest is either spam or lag.

>>137234936
wait till you find Mega gengar beam spam

>>137235092
I think I'm doing decent so far having 27 wins & 11 loses

Almost had a gengar do that to me at the last bit of hp.

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>>137235092
Tfw hitting niggas with the optic blast

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>>137235492
>Tfw dodging Gengar's optic blast, then going in for the phase shift while they cool down

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>>137235492
Tfw grabbing gengar out of his Super

Why are the initials for this thread /pok/ and the initials last thread /dyg/, when they were always /ptg/ for a while (it's even in the VS code still)? What are we gonna have the initials be?

>>137236306
it'll stay /ptg/ once people settle down

Predictions/wishes on the upcoming patch?

>>137237109
Deleting Shadow Mewtwo

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>>137237109
I want to main this.

I want this.

Badly.

In more ways than one.

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>>137238386
I like zoroark please don't gay him up

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>>137229250
WHEN'S FROGLEGS

>>137238460

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>>137238625
You need jesus

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When's best scythehands?

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When's Machamp's rival?

>>137237170
Same

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>>137238460
But that Zoroark is female.

>names

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Look at this fucking smug Gengar and his trophy wife.

>>137242519
DELETE THIS

>>137242856
Hello?

CHINK MOOT WHY
REFRESH PAGE

>>137244004
Fuck off

>>137244104
no, you fuck off, dwight

>>137244348
You wanna fucking go Brandon?

>>137244757
i'll fucking go, leslie

>>137244815
Where do you fucking live Brandy

>>137244876
down by the chippy
i'll knock ya in the gabber m8
i swar on me mum

Why does my 4chan look like shit now

>>137245191
april fools, paulette

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Is there a way to play Chandy not like a faggot? Can I be more aggressive and get in people's face?

>>137245331
Yes but why would you? You're a zoning character, if they can't figure out how to get close there's no reason to stop punishing them for it. CQ is just as easy as getting into people's faces and figuring out which of your attacks are quickest/have enough range and recovery to catch them on wakeup. Then it's a matter of mixing it up with counters and grabs.

You do a good enough job corralling and forcing players in duel mode to get close and overheat is punishing as fuck already.

>>137245331
You win. Do whatever it takes that's not Rage Quitting or Lag Switching.

page 10 bumpo

So there is a confirmed patch!
That's pretty nice.

>>137249215
source?

>>137250000
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/715767472415248384

>>137250169
Nice! Thanks Lindsay, you're a gem.

>>137250169
>An adjustment for Reshiram
RIP cool Braixen support

Pikachu main here looking to switch to another main. I wanted to get into playing a zoner and out of all of them gardevior looked like the best fit for me. From watching and reading I gathered that gard has good damage and her projectiles cover a lot of the opponents actions if read properly but I also see that shes a little slow,has poor HP and poor defensive and average close range options.

What do I have to keep in mind picking her up and what are some recommended materials to study to play her well? I learn really fast watching match videos so recommending me someone to study would be greatly appreciated.

>>137250965
>>An adjustment for Reshiram
Back to Fennekin or Umbreon

Let's play a game, /ptg/
>Pokken 1.5
>Now only with 2D phase, 3D has been removed.
>However, certain moves from the previously existing field phase are now usable in 2D and require inputs similar to street fighter (QCB/QCF/236/214), you can cancel any normal into those specific moves!
>Choose maximum 2 moves from field phase to put in duel phase for one pokemon and give their new inputs!

I'll start:
>Garchomp
>Field Forward Y becomes 236Y, Field j.Y becomes j.236Y.

I wanna get good with another character to help me get out of rank d3 but idk who

>>137254259
Fuck off.
The best thing about this game is how it manages to have such a nice variety in moves without resorting to stupid fucking arbitrary inputs.

>>137238914
>irrelevant unova shitmon
Never ever

>>137255551
nice shit taste anon

>Playing ranked
>crushing people, at the same rank as people with 200+ more games played
>new opponent is suicune
>they beam, I block
>lol no you didn't you stood there and ate the damage
>in duel mode they jump, clearly going to blizzard
>hold R
>lol you weren't blocking take 200 damage kthx
>press power button
Delay netcode shouldn't be allowed.

>>137232789
>monkey flip
You mean wild charge? The move that ends in stone cold stunner? That's a counter-attack, it's unsafe on block and you can grab Libre out of it.

>>137250169
Cool, now fix fennekin

>>137255861
there's nothing wrong with fennekin

My favorite pokemon on the roster is Suicune (because I like water pokemon), but I can't overcome the dirty feeling of playing zoning characters. My games are so easy because I am destroying everyone from far away. I just feel cheap and skill-less, I don't deserve the wins I am getting. It doesn't really seem that fun either.

Should I just get over it and keep playing? Will it get more fun when people get better and realize how to move through my projectiles?

>>137255934
Zoners will always have an advantage online in this game and there's nothing you can do to prevent that on either side of the matchup. Delay netcode and high-damage projectiles do not mix.

>>137255934
Just wait for Greninja DLC

Or try to do combos with Suicune's command grab

>>137255921
>Only support that gives you straight up invincibility frames.

Dont be stupid fennekin is broken

>>137256230
Fennekin's not so bad excepting when he's being used by Chandelure

I can deal with having a "burst" support that avoids damage, but you shouldn't be able to combo out of it.

>>137256230
umbreon does as well.

>>137256386
except umbreon charges really slow.

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>>137250169
>No official announcement
>Only source is a fansite
>April 1st

>>137257171
>https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/715767472415248384
the fansite's tweet was yesterday though.

>>137256384
The little niggas pretty much a get out of jail free card for zoners and gettong out of synergy bursts

>>137257331
Still no source outside Serebii

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>>137257563
>mfw people think fennekin is nonpunishable around me

You cannot be blocking but time your synergy when the explosion is at its peak. There is a slight cool down period where the opponent is still in the support animation.

Have fun.

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>>137256384
That's probably what they're changing with Resh. The ability to combo into or off it.

He does obnoxiously high damage and as a Braixen I can do a fully charged X into his assist for a flat 200 damage with essentially two buttons. It also doesn't break duel phase so you can follow it up with fireblast or a fire whirl depending on how close they are.

>>137258168
>Punishing with a Synergy Burst
What's the point? Absolutely worthless. Unless you meant Burst Attack but not every character can do that

>>137258263
You know what I mean. And even then projectiles work too just bait them out.

I could imagine a suicune baiting out with a delayed jump back blizzard. Ouch.

>>137258263
He meant burst attack.

>>137258427
Nobody uses Fennekin against Suicune at a distance where you can do that.

>>137258552
>tfw you never fought a zoner who literally panics and calls fennekin as soon as any opponent closes the distance

Be glad. But the good suicunes are the ones who know how to mix it up and get close when they got to so thats why people would feel pressured to call the little fucker out.

>>137237109
>>137237170
>>137238386
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2016/04/upcoming_pokken_tournament_update_to_fix_shadow_mewtwos_infinite_combo

So far, the upcoming patch will only fix Shadow Mewtwo's infinite combo, adjust Reshiram, and patch various other bugs. No other balance adjustments have been revealed; the patch is due in "early April".

>>137258254
I'm honestly expecting Reshiram to just have less guard damage.

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Post it
>Rank
>W/L ratio
>Main
>Who bodies you the most

lmao I learned Shadow Mewtwo for nothing, dropping him forever

>There are people that still fall for Mewtwo psycho cut cancel grabs

How?

>>137259050
you must be 18 to post bait on this board

oh wait actually you need to be 18 to post on this board

WHAT IS THE ZONIEST ZONER of all zoners that can zone out other zoners? I'm fucking sick of chandelures and braixens just spamming shit then using fennekin to reset. Playing an all-rounder character (lucario, my main) against these fags is an up-hill battle always.

I want a secondary that can say "Ok, you want to play zone wars? Let's play zone wars" and just fucking spam beams and projectiles and do it better than the other fag. Is there a character that can do that? Then I can just avoid the chore of trying to get in against a zoner and just play long range and win that way. I don't care about other match ups because I will only use the zoner against other zoners, otherwise I use lucario.

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>>137258254
Optimized it a bit more
>Midair Charge X > X > Resh Assist

>>137259154
There aren't that many M2 sonI've never seen what you're talking about

>>137259210
Gardevoir is the zoniest.

>>137258995
>Rank
D4, I've only played 45 matches though.
>W/L
a little bit over 85%
>Main
Pikachu libre
>Who bodies you the most
Pikachu's surprisingly, I just know very little about him and every one I play seems to know something that the prior ones didn't.

>>137259210
Play shadow mewtwo mate.

>>137259210
I think what you want is anti-zoner rather than out zoning. Pick suicune. Gardevoir would take significantly more time to learn that just learning when to use mirror coat

>>137259210
get suicune
mirror coat them projectiles
rekt them hard

>>137258995
B5
64.54%
Charizard
Chandelure

>>137258995
C1 (got deranked twice ;_;)
62-63% I forgot
Pikachu
Libre,wevile,zard,and both mewtwos. Thats all you fight in C-B rank too.

Wevile is what I probably lose to most convincingly while zard is the one I lose to the most often. I beat libres but a good one will mop me since they can duel phase way better than pika and pika is not a zoner so you can keep libre out in field mode too long. I can't even reversal since libre's best meaty KD option (net grab) beats my reversal. Mewtwo in general is a all rounder like pikachu that Gives more damage,Can take more damage,has more mixups,and can zone better too at the cost of some speed and synergy build speed.

I'm changing mains but this is me at the moment.

>>137259267
Mewtwo can cancel the homing follow up of psycho cut so some people keep blocking expecting to get hit by the follow up but they just get grabbed instead.

>>137258995
D1
63%?
Braixen
Pikachu Libre, they have some unfair counter breaking garbage.

>>137258995
>Rank
C3
>W/L ratio
68%
>Main
Mewtwo
>Who bodies you the most
Garchomp, I don't understand anything this character does.

>>137258995
>Rank
C4 but I gave up on ranked. At this point it's 100% laggy beam spam
>W/L
~78%
>Main
Pikachu Libre
>Who bodies you the most
I've yet to find a seriously bad matchup for Libre. Machamp is the worst I've found since he can crush your health so quickly and you can't keep him out in duel mode but the same rushdown game Libre does against everyone else works and she can low-profile his counterattack

>>137258995
D4
60% in friendlies, 70% in ranked
Braixen
Pikachus give me trouble the most

>>137258995
Is it an accomplishment to make it to C4 as machamp?

Oh, there's another schoolgirl uniform set.

>it's a "player with 40% winrate who disconnects before losing" episode

>>137260865
>it's a "player with 80% winrate who disconnects before losing" episode

>>137261060
Doesn't disconnecting give you a loss?

Also most disconnectors I've run into were those stuck in a rank down match.

>>137258995
>Rank
D2
>W/L ratio
70%
>Main
Garchomp
>Who bodies you the most
Machamp

>>137259845
>I don't understand anything this character does.
He specializes in punishing and critical hits. Stone Edge, Sand Tomb and Dragon Rush have followup attacks and animations if you manage to play the attack triangle properly. He also gets those followup attacks for free while Burst Mode. No Crit required.

The rest is straight forward enough.

Is mewtwo (not shadow) seen as a "dirty" character? I haven't unlocked him yet and he is my favorite character on the roster, might be my main, but he seems very good. Almost too good.

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>when blaziken wins he shows you his foot
MY DICK CAN ONLY GET SO HARD

>>137262769
Yes it can.

>you also get a crotch shot

>>137262737
I've heard people look down on him because he's so good. But he's not broken at all. Not even remotely unfair. Just super good tier 1 material.

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>>137262769

>>137262769
His foot is so creepy. It actually made me switch away from using him,.

>>137262837
fuck the crotch
feet is where its at
>>137262884
>>137262909
>not wanting to rub on blazikens feet and suckle the talons

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>>137262769
>you share a general with these people

>>137262842
What makes him pretty good? From what I've seen, the reason he's good is because he is strong in every situation. He always seems to have options, which other characters don't have. Blaziken or Machamp are boned at long range in field phase but Mewtwo is good both at long range and close range.

>>137263184
>What makes him pretty good?
Basically that. He's got great ranged game, some neat movement tricks from Teleport and a generally totally competent close range game too. He's basically never at a disadvantage. Also a super strong Burst Mode/Burst Attack that easily ranks as the best or second best in the game.

>>137263184
His weakness is that he doesn't get Burst every round. Against blaziken or other fast chargers ( i think pikachu ), you will struggle because he gets 1 burst per round and you only get 1 in an entire set usually

>>137263184
His only weakness is that you have to learn to deal with burst mode without having your own until you reach the final round. It can be pretty rough sometimes.

is disconnecting before the match starts less rude than disconnecting right before the end

because there's one match-up my character can't win in any circumstance and i'm sick of trying

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>>137265492
>because there's one match-up my character can't win in any circumstance and i'm sick of trying

and you'll never win it with that attitude

>>137265492
What matchup? Maybe someone here can beat the good into you. Otherwise, goto friendly matches, keep cycling opponents until you find the matchup, keep requesting rematches until you git gud.

>>137265492
>It's not me, it's my character

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/r/ing the Machamp 'Nice Meme' gif/webm

>>137265758
>>137265868
if you can beat a decent chandelure as charizard you deserve a pat on the back every day for the rest of your life

there's no way to approach from the ground since you're so slow, thus you get forced into the air. at this point chandelure can just happily use any anti-airs he has and they'll almost definitely hit you

if you manage to get to him you now have to deal with overheat and smog, but your only reliable way to do that is charged air x, and so he can once again just use anti-air with no worries

if that wasn't bad enough, charizard is so tall that most anti-airs will hit him on the ground and lead into a full combo

charizard's best move against normal zoners is fire punch but obviously that isn't going to work here. even if you can manage to hit him with something you're going to need to get to him and hit him again 3 to 5 more times

chandelure is the only character i have a below 50% winrate against, and i had no problems dealing with him using other characters, so yeah, it's probably my character

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>special bonus
>100 pg

>>137263184
What also makes him really good that the other anons didn't touch on is his mixup and feint options. You can't really do much but guess when mewtwo get the ball rolling. He can even feint at a distance or up close. Man does he get me salty you can't really stay solid vs a mewtwo he WILL open you up eventually.

>>137266640
Chandelure will be toned down in the patch. Try not to worry.

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>>137266047

>>137267371
I can only hope, but I'm not optimistic

Chandelure is terrible against S.Mewtwo and not amazing against some characters, so they might leave him alone or not nerf him enough

>>137268029
I think Hex and Overheat will be looked at. Beyond that we can't know. Maybe they'll gimp her melee reach so she can't knock you back away so fucking easily from so far.

>>137266640
Tbhh the only thing I find that is a issue with chandy is overheat. Now thats a BS move and depending on the assist it has no faults.

I fought a B3 chady that used that stupid assist and did overheat again. I punished the first one but the second one got me. I hate armored attack moves since you can't meaty grab them because they refuse to learn the wakeup game and just spam overheat. Its a very beatable character but is very fraudulent and will always steal games in a ranked setting. 2 rounds is not enough time to figure out if a faggot will panic overheat twice in a row. I feel your pain even though you play firepunchzard.

Guys it's that time again XD

>UR MAIN
>UR SUPPORT
>YER FIRST VIDEO GAME

NOW IT'S AN ANIME! ~~~!!!11! WHAT IS IT XDD

>>137268401
Natasha, what the fuck

>>137268401
Natasha, lay off the crack and get back to work.

>>137267413
Thanks senpai

>be me
>mains Machamp
>decided to go online for the first time
>of the 36 games, lost 11
>only 2 of those loses I can actually accept
>the rest was just spam from chandelure, suicune, & the mewtwos

I thought this was going to be fun. Fuck faces literally walk to the otherside of the arena & spam shit.

>matched with the same R Pika 3 times in a row

>>137268434
>>137268482
KYAA!!! Miller-senpai and Lin-senpai replied to me!!! KITAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>137268580
nice try jay

>>137268580
Is there something you need to tell us?

Whaaaat the fuck Natasha. >>137268401

>>137268616
>>137268721
>>137268823
Ortiz-san, Harper-san, Zamora-chan, you know Nata-chan has multiple personality disorder

>>137268580
baka desu senpai

>>137269052
Jesus Christ Nash, you can't just say that

>>137269052
I feel like I've got split personality disorder right now, who am I anymore?

>>137268497
>Waa! Why won't they let me hug them?

Nigga you dumb. They walk to the other side because you can kill in 3 attacks.

>>137268324
fire punch isn't even that good, other charizards will spam it at me all the time, if they don't go into flying stance you can critical grab them and if they do you can usually get out an attack faster than they can or just counter

plus fire punch will lose to a charged counter 100% of the time unless they hit you the moment you let it go

sometimes the game decides to be retarded and pushes them back so they can't be punished but it's not common

>Wake up
>See Everyone has a name now on 4chan

WHAT DID THE CHINK DO

>>137269538
Calm down San Fransico-san.

so what did the patch fix?

>>137269691
the patch is already out?>>137269691

>>137269521
There is no tell for going into flying stance so if I try to grab I can risk eating a critical flare blitz(?). Fire punch is safe on block and requires a read counter which zard can mixup with his pierce moves and seismic toss. Its not a huge problem in good online connections and in extended sets but those moves net you LOTS of mileage for being predictable ad you can't punish them as hard as you think.

The safest thing to punish fire punch is a armored reversal in duel mode. In field you can only counter no punish.

>>137269919
Let me rephrase

You can't react to the flying stance tell in time to avoid eating a critical flare blitz.

>>137269538
what?
this isn't 4chan, you're on google +

>>137270132
can't react
>
>
>
>

Everybody needs to stop what they're doing and play this 10 times a day. It's simple:

Block correctly 5 times. Their's high block and low block. Overheads are 20 frames. This should be easy

http://www.teyah.net/milliablocker.html

>>137269919
You can usually tell based on if the charizard is terrible. There's pretty much no reason not to go into flying stance. If you don't go into flying stance it's punishable on block. If a charizard isn't going into flying stance he probably doesn't know how or made an error.

>>137270521
Good shit. Thanks dude. I hate how there is no playback so I can't test this shit out its driving me nuts. I thought firepunch was safe all of the time and I just had to react with a 100+ damage risk.

>>137269919
Block -> Anti Air (8Y) maybe?

>>137270376
Can you learn better reaction times from this because my reaction time is like 300-375ms and I can barely react to this since its just random. I have to look for patterns in real matches to avoid overheads and other tricky shit. Its why I was horrible at anime fighters and setplay games and I can do well in SFV (still kinda shit).

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woop woop woop!
cutie alert!

>>137271021
too slow like I said only an armored reversal works since it beats all zards followups

Reversal hits on the STARTUP of both zards grabs
Reversal crits attacks
Reversal hits on the startup of CA (not confirmed)

>>137271354
"Let's see how long you last in bed Geoffrey-kun."

>>137270376
I have no idea how to play this game

>>137271354
She's okay

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>Braixen will never let you stroke her soft chest fur

why even live

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>>137274863

>>137274863
>you will never massage her strong velvety legs
Just kill me now.

>>137274863
>>137275439
>Liking braixen
>Not liking her superior ara ara form.

Is Garde a good alt for Shadow Mew2? I want to learn a different character because Shadow Mew2 is too easy for ranked.

>>137274863
I wanna tug her ear hair.

>>137276295
If you want a character that isn't easy on ranked Gardevoir is perfect

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>>137277089
Gardevoir is perfect always.

>>137276713
don't bully the braixen!

>>137278016
>Gardevoir
>Perfect anything

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>>137278184
She's top qt

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>>137278537
>Gardevoir
>Top QT

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>>137278721
Top tier QT fighter.

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>>137279353
>Gardevoir
>Fighter

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>>137279469
She's in a fighting game. That makes her a fighter.

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>>137279353
Someone who understands.

Man where the fuck are Pikachu's openings? It looks like his combos will go on hitting your shield forever! Is it posible to punish Pikachu's or do you have to just beat out his attacks?

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>>137279632
You know it!

So is there a way that these threads don't devolve into /vp/ or is that going to be impossiblwe

>>137280073
it's pokemon dude, what the fuck did you expect?

>>137280073
fuck off may

>>137280073
go fuck your blaziken, may

>>137280073
Well, with Gardevoir in the game, it's impossible
That alone attracts the Gardfags

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>>137280073
>May
Misty is cooler than you and always will be.

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>>137280642
Damn right

>>137280073
/gg/ pls go
It's phox phriday afterall.

>>137280642
I can get behind that

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>>137280863
>Phox Phriday
>Rampant Gardevoir posting
Time to turn this shit around

>>137276295
try Sceptile. To win with Sceptile you must learn every MU.

>>137281120
isn't this whole game learning MUs

>>137281567
And here I am playing ranked with Mewtwo 100% winrate from D5 to C4. Hyper beam doesn't care about MU, Sceptile does.

>>137275439
still no fanart of this someone needs to get on it.

>>137258995
D1, close to C5
~75%
Main mewtwo
Get bodied by good blazikens/garchomps

Really think it's due to lack of match up knowledge, I've ran into a couple of really great blazikens and chomps that just fuck me up. because of the dearth of good aggressive players compared to the overwhelming number of people just spamming y/a with zoners in E/D/C ranks I have a lot more practice against zoners

"Weavile and I lost the other day."
"We've got to bust through some special training and get back in there!"
She's talking about Weavile doing some training with her bust, you know.

>>137281716
Well, okay

>>137283904
or busting her with his knot

>>137258995
>Rank
E5, Never started ranked matches, I just play friendlies.
>W/L ratio
75.91%
>Main
Pikachu, secondary is Mewtwo, planning on picking up Charizard.
>Who bodies you the most
Charizard, best way to learn the match-up would be learning the character. So it helps that I'm picking zard up.

>>137284074
Of course.
It should be well known that the best female Pokemon trainers have often been known to have been able to take the knot.

>>137284074
Cat weasel things don't have those

>Lost to a laggy Mexican
This is what you should vote for Trump

>>137284987
>not disconnecting against laggy people

>>137285080
>disconnecting at all

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>>137284623

>>137258995
>>Rank
About to get D4
>>W/L ratio
41 Wins 26 losses
>>Main
Shadow Mewtwo
>>Who bodies you the most
Charizard because I swear he just armors through everything
And basically most fast chars like Pikachu, Libre, Weavile and fucking projectile campers like Braixen

>>137285135
there's nothing morally wrong about disconnecting against laggy people, shadow mewtwo infinite abusers, or people who have disconnected against you before

>>137285318
>>>Main
>Shadow Mewtwo
Killyourself

>>137285421
>Disconnecting purposly
>Wanting to get a free loss

?????

>>137285421
I guess we don't share ethics the because purposefully disconnecting isn't acceptable in my book.

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>>137258995
>Rank
D2
>W/L ratio
around 60%
>Main
sceptile
>Who bodies you the most
charizard and good gardevoirs

>>137285478
:^>

>>137285547
i meant if you were about to lose, not just immediately

>>137285628
i don't know about you but i'm not about to let scumbags who disconnect against innocent people get wins from me

>>137285903
how do you know they disconnected from people besides you? Maybe they're just disconnecting from you because you disconnected from them?

Do as many mental gymnastics to justify this to yourself as you like, you'll not fool me.

>>137259210
Gardevoir is the zoniest character in the game. And yes, she outzone Braixen and Chandy.

>>137278184
>>137278721
>Implying it's not true

Look, I could care less about taking a L for disconnecting, I just don't want to waste my time fighting a suicune that's going to spam blizzard while the lag is so bad that I can't even block on reaction.

Of course, that's also why I don't play ranked anymore, because instead of good players rising to the higher ranks it's nothing but laggy zoners.

>>137286080
i fought a sceptile three times over the course of 30 minutes, he disconnected every time he lost

i only met him once prior to this, a few days before, and he also disconnected at that time

i never disconnected from him until our fifth encounter where he barely managed to beat me by catching me in a burst attack

>>137285478
I mean he's literally the only character I learned and came natural to me. If I had a choice I would play Blaziken but he's so sad vs anyone who has a projectile.

Also I have no clue on how to do the infinite and have no intention of doing so.

>Keep getting matched against the same machamp
>5 times in a row
>Completely and utterly destroy him each time
>4th and 5th matches were my rank ups
>the 5th was also their rank down
For the first time I ever, I didn't feel good over winning. It felt dirty, and wrong.

By the 4th rematch I could tell he had resigned to his fate. He wasn't throwing the match completely but I could tell he was trying different ways to figure out how to best me. He could have disconnected but he stuck through it like a champ and took the rank down.

I'm taking a break right now because I'm both depressed and I don't want to rematch against him anytime soon.

>>137286417
That's nice pal. Still doesn't justify your disconnect, just shows that you weren't the bigger man.

>>137286464
spam back Y and Back A over and over while in field phase and if they block it you win

>>137286625
but it does?

>>137286907
In your mind, maybe.

>>137286615
Add him as a friend anon though the Recent Players Met and tell him how much of a champ he is

>>137286615
I salute the player that can hold that L and try to learn from it

>>137286625
if you let this shit slide it reinforces the idea that it's okay to do, it has nothing to do with being the bigger man

if you were a waiter at a restaurant, and some asshole didn't tip you, then later he delivered a pizza to your house, would you tip him?

don't reinforce bad behavior by ignoring it, return it to them

>Playing friendly games
>Beat some girl charizard
>her location is actually the same state
>She adds me and says Hey! You're pretty good where in <my state> are you

Is this real life

>>137286965
And in yours also.

>>137286996
But I would tip him. be the bigger man, turn the other cheek. if your enemy is hungry, give him food. If he is thirsty, give him drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals upon their head.

That is how people change, and for the better. All you do is guarantee that he won't tip you next time either.

>>137287290
Clearly not.

>>137287217
It's a trap, Trevor!

>>137287217
it's a rapist
don't go

>>137287217
You better fuck her treveor

>>137287340
but you clearly think a certain way so it does in your mind. Difference between you and me is you're wrong.

>>137287558
You've justified it to yourself, but you've yet to convince me. Sorry anon.

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>>137287360
Even better.

>>137287340
you're right, in fact i should just set down the controller and let him win

clearly if we reward bad behavior it will make it go away

>>137287674
You too have yet to convince me. Sorry anon.

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>>137287217
Do it up Trevor

>>137287747
I'm sorry you're too immature to handle a single loss that was rightfully earned. He beat you, fair's fair. if it's such a huge issue then just beat him, you did it four times in a row before that after all. Sounds like you're just salty about losing to me.

>>137287869
And same with you. Take your losses like a man.

>>137288075
Don't know who you're trying to fool anon, that's not very convincing at all.

I want these gardefags to go and stay go
it's phox phriday, brixen lovers chase them away!

>>137288364
this ain't /vp/ nigga

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>>137288364
Here to stay buddy.

>>137288075
imagine if you had a friend who just turned off the console or the TV every time you were about to beat him in a game

if you would keep being friendly towards that person, i don't know what to tell you, i'm sorry that i can't be such a saint who puts up with anything

>>137288364
>You are not allowed to talk about your favorite Pokemon because muh special phox friday

Funny, Loretta.

>>137288364
everyone stays just post some phox for phox friday

>>137288364
Loretta confirmed for shit taste

>>137288364
>Telling people to go away instead of everyone just staying posting their favorite Pokemon as usual.

Come on now. If you want phox exclusively go to /vp/.

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>yfw you forget the attack triangle because you turned off Nia

>>137279840
6Y has a slight opening
6Y JF is completley safe
Poke combo 1 has an opening between the 3rd Y and iron tail (also all followups from the third Y has an opening.
A and charged A can be jumped
Mid air A is vunerable all the way down and some few frames after pikachu lands
Iron tail (2A) raw is punshable
X,Y XX,Y XXX,Y is safe and JF pushes you way back and is also safe.
8A is extremely unsafe and you can get a critical grab even after pikachu lands
4A is Unsafe at close range if the tail doesn't hit you
X X,X and 2X is safe I think
8Y 8X is safe

All of this is duel mode

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>>137229250

SCRAFTY?

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>>137293318
FORGET THIS SHIT. HOW ABOUT "WHEN [ANY BUG]?"

MY FAVORITE TYPE IS COMPLETELY UNREPRESENTED IN THIS FUCKING GAME

>>137291448
>your face when you suddenly die and lose the battle
>you wonder why
>there is no possible reason it could have happened, you simply cannot comprehend why you died and lost the battle

>it's because you turned off Nia and therefore you forgot it was possible to lose HP because she didn't remind you every time it happened
...mm..... shit....

Anyone in the code?

>>137293564
this
shuckle when

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>Playing ranked against some Machamp
>I'm literally retarded for some reason and get grabbed constantly and lose the set against him
>Somehow get matched against him 2 more times in ranked consecutively
>Wash the floor with him both times

Is there no better feel?

>>137294621
>shuckle moves super slow
>but every single attack deals 1 damage to it
>it has a lower life pool than shadow mewtwo
>but it wrecks shit because you don't fuckle with the shuckle

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>>137293564
Best bug for Pokken

>>137297034
agreed

POST BURST THEMES.
https://youtu.be/4Gtam7gFHq4?t=130

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YO, So when can we unlock Shiny colors?

>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J3V3vYELtA

>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUXAAluDCNI

>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5vJQZNFSmg
also used for 1 HP left situations

>>137297336
>Actually liking burst themes and any self picked themes with a game that has great stage music like this

Disappointing reminds me of sonic unleashed night stages or kingdom hearts where the music will get fucked for an annoying theme.

>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3fbo6kelBM

>>137297336
My nigga scep and his Leaf Blade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqFvRyGvGWk

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>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZRy6XfJ8mI

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>>137297336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2HsVzdA8dk

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Guys please play pokken! Its Friday night...

>>137305629
DEAD GAME

Why are people always too scared for a rematch? Like they take a win and run away in friendlies like it makes a difference

>>137306080
maybe they just don't like you, anon

>>137306080
Most people playing pokken haven't played fighters and don't know the blessing of learning a matcup in a real match without the pressure of losing.

People treat it like ranked but with less risk.

J-dub, please block.

>>137305629
But I'm trying to catch em all in OR...

>>137307005
Please... Just block

>>137307508
I am not used to fighting Gard

Is there a competitive reason to play shadow mewtwo?

>>137305629
I'll play... on wednesday. When my copy comes in.

>>137308292
is there not one?

>>137309190
people say he's dumpster tier

>>137309454
Nigga what? Hes a better mewtwo in terms of offense but he is literally a bleeding glass cannon. A good shadow mewtwo is scary.

ggs fantasy

I am not the best at this game

>>137310201
You definitely got better the more we played. GGs and keep it up.

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What kind of non-character DLC would you want?

I'd pay a couple bucks for trainer outfits based on characters from the RPGs.

>>137310493
supports

David Chen is streaming pokken right now

He's god-awful, losing to 5 year olds. He just can't wrap his head around the attack triangle

>>137309454
yeah keep believing that while I enjoy my 70 winrate shadow mewtwo in ranked

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What are good supports and matchups for lulu?

i kind of just go with reshiram and fennekin 90% of the time and i feel like i'm not reaching the best potential with that

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>>137310493
Gen 3 Gym Leader outfits, and Team outfits.

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>>137310493
Online hub where I could walk around with my 16bit trainer hang around in 16 bit renditions of the ferrum areas and challenge trainers and make my own custom room.

>>137310610
>Pay for new supports
>Worst case scenario is that they outclass all of the free supports and you have to pay to keep up in matches
>Best case is that they don't change the game at all and they shouldn't have wasted the time

Is there a pkoemon that wants to be in field phase most of the time????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

>>137310834
Braixen, Gardevoir, Chandelure.

>>137310834
Chandelure? Zoners seem to favor field phase quite a bit. Mewtwo can also deal out quite a bit of damage in field without swapping phases if you play him right.

>>137310802
I'd very much like this as well, fun idea.

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>>137268401
Lulu
cres/ram
yoshi's island

hey you know what that sounds comfy as fuck i would watch that

>>137310802
So you want a Splatoon world hub

>>137311162
No splatoon hub has no interaction outside of miiverse. But to be honest nintendo would never implement it because of MUH MUH CHILDREN so it would be more like splatoon tbhh.

Thanks for the games, Arturia! I've gotta split though. You got me with some nice counters. Try and spam that Aerial light attack a bit more though. It's the best way to lead into ground combos.

Each pokemon has different charge speeds for supports. I just learned this.

So, which pokemon has the fastest support charge speed?

>>137312484
i think braixen, especially in her upwards stance in duel phase

>>137312639
braixen is not interesting to me. Is there another pokemon that charges fast supports?

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>>137312363
But I spam it and forget that Blizzard is a move that exists

At least I got a single win on you in that stompfest. I can at least say I'm the top of the garbage pile.

>>137312748
They were closer than you think desu. With Suicune it only takes one different read and the whole momentum shifts.

>Never had anybody d/c as machamp
>within 5 matches get a nigga to d/c as braixen

I can understand why

>>137313338
Those d/c are because the opponent can't wait to masturbate to Braixen

>>137311303
To be honest hub?

>>137313338
Because when you beat their only strategy they realize they're garbage

>>137313338
All people playing zoning characters right now are giant faggots in general. That's what I've noticed anyway. Machamp is an honest pokemon and attracts honest players.

>>137313750
>Machamp
>honest

>>137313750
Wow, rood

>>137313701
To be honest Homie

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>>137313750
I play Gardevoir because she's my favorite Pokemon, she just HAPPENS to be a zoner.

Just tried the demo. How hard would you motherfuckers say it is to learn this game?

>>137314198
>we will never get grappler Gardevoir that has sex attacks

>>137313750
The only true post in this thread

>>137314371
The game is very straightforward, but super grimy against better players. Not hard to pick up, but you can and likely will get your ass beat raw sometimes.

>>137314198
then you're not playing the game because you want to play it for what it is, but just because it has a pokemon face on it, congrats, you're ___dumb____

>>137314613
is this post even real

>>137313750
If I had the game, I'd honestly main Machamp. I love grapple characters.

>>137314526
Man, I just don't want to come off as a scrub.

After putting some time into the demo, I did learn it and kinda get a grasp on the meta.

>>137314613
Go back to /fgg/ you anti-fun faggot.

>>137314796
Wow, that was uncalled for Archie

Dear Pokken devs,

If you're going to design this game around "attacks beat grabs beat counters beat attacks", you can't then change your mind and give a character an attack that ignores hitstun like a counter would, but unlike counters is also completely grab-immune.

Especially not when it does A HUNDRED AND EIGHTY FUCKING DAMAGE.

>>137315694
Overheat? Sounds like overheat. If so I agree its probably the most bs move in the game imo.

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Blaziken feels pretty straight forward compared to everyone else. Does he have any mixups?

I love Gardevoir

>>137316014
Not really that's why i dropped the character.

dont' get me wrong, he can be scary at high levels of play, but it takes amazing timing with a duel phase forward A or something like that. His moves are predictable so you need to surprise the enemy by using them at the perfect time.

Fucking SHIT. Another game, another indecisive struggle to choose my main. I can't decide my main. I play them and then people beat me and I jump ship to another pokemon. I can only see the weaknesses of a pokemon and not the strengths. Send help.

I want machamp to be my main but there are so many struggles against projectile spammers right now

>>137316672
Use Pachirisu as support

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>>137316373

>>137315949
Yeah.

I mean, I'd understand if it dealt like 100 damage or something, but 180 for an almost completely invincible close-range move? On the ZONING character? There are burst attacks that deal less damage than that! And those require your entire Synergy Bar!

At least it's mad punishable on block/whiff. And it self-debuffs. So I guess there's that.

Sorry for the random salt, I'm just growing tired of losing almost a third of my health because I had the nerve to press a button.

>>137316373
>>137316941
>Decide to pick up a new character
>just picking pokemon at random in free mode
>gard feels right
>know if I pick her i'll be lumped in with these faggots

I know they shouldn't change what I want to do but holy fuck.

>>137316941
>tfw you will never pet Gardevoir

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>>137317821
She's super fun and has the cutest win animations.

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ggs ds

Does someone have the in-game up skirts of Gardevoir?