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>VS Code: vgptg

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/wg88nq9D

>How do I play online? What is a VS code?
After completing the initial menu tutorial and picking a partner pokemon, pick Online Battle from the main menu / world map.
VS codes are basically passwords. Set the preferences to Anyone > Use Vs Code > vgptg

>I have the game and this chick's voice is making my ears hurt
Luckily for you, Japanese voices are a menu option and you can completely turn it off.

>What are some resources I can check out?
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pokken+tournament+tutorial
http://kuroganehammer.com/Pokken
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/
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Dead game
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>>137072894
is this the new meme?
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>>137072894
>>137072956
4chan is generally shit at fighting games
fgg is only alive because of the waifufags
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>>137073157
But Soul Calibur general lived for almost two years and waifufags were constantly shit on in the general.
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>>137073334
>actually going to /fgg/
>not taking refuge in /asg/

rip the best general
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>>137073437
I never said anything about going to /fgg/.
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>>137073548
my b
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Reposting again for general interest and feedback:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bi9yPzpbSCvEdl1tlgXyVyGu6E5yP7X8Pn5lrGzZW54/edit?usp=sharing

This is a checklist I made for male avatar items. To save the list for yourself, either click "File" and then "Make a copy", or "File" and "Download as...". Let me know if any prices listed are inaccurate, or if I missed items entirely.

If there is interest, I'll gladly make a list for female items as well.

Let me know if you have any other questions, comments, or insults.
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Why is Mewtwo such BS, 600 HP can spam like a "zoner" can fight up close like Machamp, tricky moves like Gengar and fast like Weavile
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To Fantasy from last thread since Idk how to reply to posts from other threads: I used to have Cresselia or Whimsicott but I think the invincibility Fennekin gives is more valuable than HP but I guess it really depends on who I'm fighting. Also since most other people use Fennekin now it's good to have one to counter your opponent's even if I still take damage.
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>>137073157
>fgg is only alive because of the waifufags
Nah, /fgg/ is very alive because of SFV.

>>137073437
Mate, /asg/ was even worse than /fgg/. It literally died because the shitposting was so extreme.
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GGs other mewtwo (sorry i forgot your name), very fun games. I definitely learned a lot from playing you
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>>137074101

GGs, was definitely fun as you continued to change each match to try and outplay my moves
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Guys, I'm seriously considering selling my copy of Pokken. The ranked mode is obviously garbage since there's no way to filter out shitty connections, so the only point in playing is with you guys. And the general is dying fast already....

And I'm not getting any better.
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>>137073795
He's not actually that great up close. A decent amount of his attacks are punishable, and his grabs are fairly weak. On top of this, counters will beat almost everything he has. His only way to pierce counters in duel phase is hyper beam, so that doesn't help his subpar grab situation.
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>>137074291
Welcome to the life of niche fighters. Find a buddy to play with.
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If you forget people name
You can just go to your Fight history
And see who your previous opponents were
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>>137074382
>Going through all of that
>Just to say ggs
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>>137074503
>being too lazy to click three buttons
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>>137074062
I still blame Xrd for that. /asg/ was never able to recover after that shitstorm. I just liked it because it wasn't full of dank ass memes and namefagging everywhere like what /fgg/ was when I left it.
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What's more important

>rank
>win count
>win ratio
>battle count
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>>137074370
But anon...I have no friends that own a Wii U
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>>137074843
he meant us
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>>137074843
Where is ptg located
Any Britbros?
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>>137074832
Battle count. Some of the best players I've seen had a ~50% win rate and were C rank.
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>>137074832
win ratio. Gives you insight on your opponent. Ranks can be luck based, win counts doesn't mean much if your ratio is 10% and battle count means nothing because Damien.
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Fuck it, going in the code. I'm extra shit today. Like E5-tier shit.
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>>137074843
I'd wager my name for us to play together, buuuuut. I'm not too good of company.
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>everyone is trying every character
>I'm still trying to learn all the match ups with one

To be a Jack or to be a Master.
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>>137075358
too late dead game m8
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>>137075479
w8 is this b8?
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>>137075573
Not him, but if the thread's activity and the game's activity on twitch is any indication, this game is dead on arrival.
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>scan amiibo in hopes of Mewtwo's Companion title
>get Braixen's Buddy instead
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>>137075676
have fun losing out on the easiest opportunity to become EVO champ.
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>>137075189
i don't think win ratio is most important

i have barely under 80% winrate in ranked out of ~100 battles and im not even very good

also the losses Ive had were mostly to people with only around a 50% winrate, but with a lot more games played than I have. ive noticed these people are typically more knowledgeable about specific matchups

i still regularly get rekt by people on the vs code
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>>137075851
>implying I can afford to travel
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>>137076191
You had money to own a wii u
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>>137075851
Jwong plays pokken u kno
He's gonna take that free money unless Sonicfox gets into it more
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gg Mallet.
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>>137076364
It was a mistake
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>>137075676
this thread means shit and twitch is not a reliable indicator. What it matters is how fast it is to find matches online and how is supported in the immediate future. Game will be at apex/evo/pokemon championship with money prizes from the tcpi, so the situation isn't all that tragic like this memester like to say
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>>137072740
why the fuck did you make it /dyg/?
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GGs, Obs. Was nice being able to fight a variety of Pokemon like that. I'm beginning to think Sceptile isn't the Pokemon for me though, guess I should stick to Lucario and Garde.
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>>137076421
Fat man is going to be investing his time on SF5 like every other Capcom shill. It'd look pretty bad if he didn't get at least top 32 on SFV while he gets in top 8 on a children's game. Imagine the headlines:

JWong plays Baby Fighter?!
Mr. Justin Wong trade in his Fighting Stick for a Pokken Pad
Wong stops receiving sponsorships from _______
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>>137072740
>/dyg/
Why do fags keep changing it?
Should we make a new thread with the correct one?
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>>137076957
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>>137077089
what the fuck does the dy even mean
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>>137077316
/dyg/ is another general so I'm assuming the OP was just being a retard
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>>137077403
>>137076541

sorry, it was out of habit. And no one was making a thread so I tried to do it quickly before we got bumped off.
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>>137076541
>>137077089
>>137077316
>>137077403
>>137077603
Fixed OP
>>137077719
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>>137077316
I assumed that he was implying Dying General as in ded game

Which is a shitty meme
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GGs Garchomp
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>>137077775
>thread wars
100% not defending OP's idiocy, but this is also bad
If a janitor doesn't delete this one, we'll have two dead threads
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>>137077775
Fix it for next thread
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friendly reminder that the best players in /ptg/ all use female avatars
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>>137074291
>And I'm not getting any better.

I know that feel. People I played here say I'm decent but I feel like I played the same since like the second day. The only thing I got better at was CADC now I can do it practically in my sleep. How do you even get better at a game so simple? The RPS makes matches go however unless you are at a range where you can attempt to take control. It reminds me of how Chris G went with morrigan for Marvel 3 to make matches less "random".

I bought digital too.
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>>137078196
That's incorrectly. Everyone knows that the best players in /ptg/ dress their avatars to look like the character they're playing as.
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>>137074832
High Battle count with a 55+ w/l is when I get worried.
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>>137078196
Give examples
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So is there any reason to use any other support pokemon other then Cresselia?

>Gives Synergy
>Restores HP
>Removes negative status

I really can' think of a good reason not to use her over anyone else
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>>137078448
Depends on the character you use
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>>137078196
but anon I don't use a girl avatar
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>>137078448
Can't use it to break pressure.
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GG Amotkos you play Mewtwo better than I play Gengar.
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Daily reminder that our game may not be the most popular, but that's not any reason to be discouraged.
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>>137079681
>Amotkos

At least you tried.
GGs. I don't play enough Gengars, so I was learning on the fly how to deal with his moves, and especially his Synergy moves. Absolutely everything I do feels like a 50/50 against Synergy Gengar, just because of that laser going up and super. From range, that laser alone should be able to stop anything I try. Thank you for the matches
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>>137080150
Fuck off with the optimism, ded game ded thread
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>>137080698
Is this the crowning of a shiny new meme?
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gg Henry.
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>>137075201
>mfw I'm playing like a goddamn toddler
GGs Obs. I really wish I could've given you some better matches, but I'm just completely fucking up everything. Still, it was fun facing so many characters
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>Make the mistake of looking at Shofu's Sceptile video thinking maybe I'll see something new
>He doesn't use the A short jump into bullet seed a single time
>He doesn't even know about aerial Y in DP until the end of the video

I don't know what I was expecting.

Have a neat tip if you weren't privy to it before:
Immediately after firing bullet seed in FP you can tilt the stick or dpad to influence where the seeds land
This lets you do quite a bit of area denial if you combine it with bramble trap or leech seed, both of which you can also influence distance by holding down their respective button.
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>>137081874
>playing like a toddler
>still winning

RIP my winrate.
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>buy pokken
>most fun playing a fighter in 100 years
>game is dead in a week

Time to kill myself I guess.
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>>137081797
>someone named themselves after a meme
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I need some advice, guys.

I can't figure out how to beat people who go HAM on me as Machamp.

When I have an opponent who is playing the game more like a traditional fighter, I do very well. I can space well, I can poke well, I can grab and block effectively.

However, when they get in my face and just mash their controller, I have difficulties beating it. I'll block 2 or 3 attacks, then instantly get grabbed. I'll go for the counter, and they'll snuff the attack or grab me out of it. I try to go for normal attacks, and theirs seem to beat mine.

I don't know if it's lack of experience or what. I just find myself freezing up when someone is mercilessly attacking me and when I do try to do something, I get beat.

Any advice?
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>>137082194
I'm pretty sure I lost the majority of my matches with you. Also, you are better than you give yourself credit for, especially since you know the fundamentals with every character it seems.

>>137082724
Henry is a meme? I'm pretty sure it's just a name.
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>>137082734
you only think they're mashing their controller but if you're getting grabbed consistently then I have bad news for you buddy
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>>137082872
I've literally never heard the name Henry before that Mario video became popular.
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>>137083031
Senpai, where in the world are you from?
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>>137083031
I think you need to get out more, anon.
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>>137082627
what is the basis behind this meme? i still find games in less than 3 seconds on matchmaking and the general is at a healthy rate, especially for a fighting game on 4chan

why do you think all fighting games went to one mega general on /vg/? it could be argued this game in it's current state is more relevant the street fighter even, not for long, but still
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>>137082734
Who are you playing?
Have you tried playing Machamp in training to get a feel for his moves and see what they do?
A lot of his stuff is super unsafe so the best you can really do is capitalize as quickly as you can.
Also try a different support set, Fennekin makes you invulnerable and even though it's almost always shielded it still pushes them back.
Also what >>137083007 said, if they grab you out of your block while you're shielding or countering they aren't just mashing.
Machamp has his normal grab, an aerial one that can grab you off the ground too, and his 6A which he runs at you for too, maybe those are throwing you off.
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>>137083183
It just 4chan.

4chan HATES fighting games because they can never ever get good at the game because instead of investing time to learn the game, they play it for a day, get mad because they cant win and then dont want to learn the game.
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>>137083429
But anon I just hate not playing it with a community. I don't get any joy from playing randos online.
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>>137082872
Huh, looking back you're right. 6 wins to 5 losses, fairly close.
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Has anyone found a use for Blaziken's faceplant flip kick yet? Does it break counters or something? Have air invincibility?
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>>137084530
Just hit them with it
That's the point right there
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>>137084616
It doesn't seem very useful. You hit them with it, then you lose all pressure. If you whiff or they block it, you die.
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Post things that you really wish they would patch into Pokken

>let me see which Pokemon I'm fighting before I pick my support
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>>137086051
Yes, jesus, I don't get why online is structured this way at all when it seems like tourney lets you select it every time.
Especially when they have the 3 pair preset you're limited to in the first place.
It just seems so redundant and hyper restrictive, particularly when some sets are only good for countering specific types of characters.
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>>137086051
A battle system overhaul that removes field and tweaks the RPS to be more like traditional fighting game.
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>>137084794
>Whiff
What the fuck does this mean i see people say it i dont know what it means
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>>137086051
Pokemon Aime but super enhanced like Diva Room from the Miku Miku series.
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>>137086051
>fix shadow mewtwos infinite
>ease up on the damage scaling
>more recovery frames on certain attacks like miracle eye
>give damage buffs to speed and technique characters
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>>137086549
When something doesn't hit like you try to slap a fly and all you hear is the air.
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>>137086669
>ease up damage scaling
Power characters are now literally OP
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>>137086549
It basically means miss.
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>>137086398
>you must select three support pairs that you want to use online
>you then have to lock into ONE of those support pairs before going into matchmaking
>and you can't actually switch to the other two support pairs in your set without going back to the menu so there wasn't any point in setting the other two support pairs to begin with
Yeah, someone really didn't think this system all the way through.

>>137086796
How about ease up damage scaling but reduce damage across the board to compensate.
And make it so supers never scale below 50%.
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Who best girl here?
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Are japs laggy as fuck for anyone else? I live in australia and have better connections with americans and canadians.
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>>137087219
NTR NTR NTR NTR
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>>137087219
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>>137087219
Right here senpai
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>>137087453
It really depends on your opponent's connection
I've had smooth connections with people in Japan, and laggy-ass connections with people in my own goddamn state.
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>>137087559
Mah nigga.
She's just too damn FUN.
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>>137087628
Her winning pose is illegally cute
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>>137088016
It's my motivation to win.
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>Gardevoir
>Braixen
>Lucario
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>>137088180
>Suicune
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>>137087219
Hey.
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>>137089205
What's up?
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>>137087219
but you posted the wrong girl
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>>137082043
>Watch some nigga named Jtails play machamp for tips
>nigga bulks up like once in the entire video
>Not a single cross chop,few if any submissions
>still had a 70% win rate at c2

Did learn some stuff about pacing and guardong tho
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>>137087219
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>>137089325
I have more trouble with Garchomp than I should.

>>137089452
>>137089530
>liking bipedal furry fox that can't make black holes
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>>137089452
>>137089530
To each their own.
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>>137089740
>I have more trouble with Garchomp than I should.
Same. Maybe it's the rush down. He never lets me set up my shit.
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>>137089743
Please tell that Gardevoir to stop lifting her gown. it is unlady like.
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>>137090127
She's at the very beginning of her curtsy. She's being polite.
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>>137083283
>>137083007
I realized that my wording was terrible.

I play AS Machamp. I get blown up by people who seem to know the instant I block or counter attack. I am just not sure how to beat that.
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Is there a button combination for taunting or can you not taunt in this?
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>>137091021
Hold Up in Duel Phase.
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>>137091021
In Duel Phase, holding up is the equivalent of a taunt.
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So when are we gonna get art for the actual best girl?
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>>137091172
>>137091162
>Gengar has the worst taunt
>but his X charge has a built in taunt
This is weird
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>>137091172
>>137091162
But characters actually have beneficial attributes when holding up don't they? It's not really a taunt when everyone can use it for something good.
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>>137091409
Nia deserves nothing.
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>>137091616
You use up stance to do anti-airs and counter slides.
But just holding up by itself is the closest thing we have to a taunt.
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To the guy posting pikachu libre stuff last thread:

6XX 5X YYXX only enhances for 5 seconds and leaves 1 point until phase shift, meaning if you want to phase shift with a pokemon move you have to do it raw or do 6A off a divekick/aerial Y. You can also go for a grab. It has a higher payoff if you do, since you then have the regular 10s of enhancement plus an attack boost, but you have to do this within 5s after the combo.
6XX 8Y aerial Y 6Y cancel 8A gives you 10s enhancement but phase shifts (only does 1 point more of damage, really doesn't matter), a more consistent option.

you said 6XX 5X 2Y 4A is his most damaging combo (does 180 damage in burst), but 6XX 8Y(angled forward)Y 6Y 4A does 203 damage in burst

6XX 5X burst does 220
8YY burst does 241


Also some information you didn't cover

enhancement last 10s except for in two situations:
- landing 8XX or anything that ends in it (like YYXX) only gives you 5s EVEN IF YOU PHASE SHIFT WITH IT
- duel phase grab enhancement lasts 12s

The phase shift attack boost lasts 5s, but the burst attack and defense boosts last 11s
The speed drop from electroweb lasts 11s enhanced and unenhanced, although the enhanced one is more like 10s because the animation lasts longer.

4A will NEVER phase shift unenhanced and will ALWAYS phase shift enhanced. Meanwhile, 2A will phase shift no matter what.

Against the wall 8YY 4A does a nice 236 damage, gives you an attack boost and drops the opponent's speed. It's also the easiest thing ever to do. If you convert it off a landing aerial Y then you do 269 damage.

Low stance is really nice against certain characters, eg. machamp's counter, cross chop and first hit of Y all whiff.

I still haven't found a good time to use his high stance. Why would you ever stop attacking to get a boost to your support gauge? Is there any way to be next to them on the ground and have enough time to use this?

Also some more info about his aerial R would be nice, I have nothing solid on it.
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>>137091868
I meant things like Gardevoir healing hp and another character getting armor on lows
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>>137091616
Yeah, stuff like Sceptile and Gard healing 3HP/S and Charizard, Machamp, and Garchomp I think eating light attacks whilst holding up.
Still usually the most unique alternative to just standing around.
Though honestly holding in a direction and then cancelling it so your characters model does some weird transition animations is way more amusing.
Also tapping and releasing shield quickly.
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>>137092296
Hmm, I didn't know that. Neat.
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>>137092050
Also, wall jumping gives a defense boost. The landing has a fair few recovery frames though so you've got to mix it up with pressing R again after the wall jump, which you can angle left or right. The boost lasts 5s.
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>>137092363
>Waifufag not knowing anything about their own character

Good to know.
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>>137092804
Like I will ever face you in battle anyway.
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>>137092363
A quick search popped this up if you want to read about them instead of messing around in lab.
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/577/character-specific-high-stance-mechanics
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>Its a laggy Gardevoir from /ptg/ episode
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>>137093127
Sorry.
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>>137093482
Dont worry, it happens, I was only poking fun. I was hopign youd hit me so youd win the second match though
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>>137093538
Nah. I wanted to get out of that match fast and see if my connect would be different with someone else
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>>137093486
>cutting off your own flesh tentacles
ouch
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>>137093486
>That Lopunny
Cute!
CUTE!
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>>137093486
>no long skirt
Bad
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Still don't know why they didn't just retcon and make Gardevoir female only and Gallade Male only
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>>137095352
The whole thing is cute
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>>137095020
>mfw I realize Gardevoir is an eldritch like creature made of tentacles that has molded itself into a human-like visage.
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>>137095582
But gallade is male only
Also its probably because gardevoir came before gallade and they couldn't just changed any male gardevoir to a different pokemon when transfering
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>>137093486
>Black legged Gardevoir
Why isnt the original one like this?
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>>137095829
>>137096017
>self insert
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How the fuck do I into beating Shadow Mewtwo? I'm bad as hell. This is my first 3D fighter, I'm only JUST good enough to have beaten the Red League. Now this Mewtwo is slapping my shit all over the place. Cunt even perfected me once. Lowest I've gotten him down to is around 500. Sceptile ain't liking this shit.
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>>137096884
Switch to Garchomp, spam dig.
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>>137096210
Awwwwww
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>>137097180
Shit. I really don't want to betray my Sceptile, but if that's what it has to come down to. I get half my health taken off with one combo. It's pretty outrageous. I mean, with the stats as mismatched as they are, I can actually play better than the Mewtwo and still end up losing just because it has 1000 HP to whittle through and enough attack to nuke me into pieces from one misplay.
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>>137096257
Pokemon is a game about inserting yourself, anon.
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>>137097439
Lewd.
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>Got to rank up match 3 times now
>Failed everytime

Guess i'll just be a c5 shitter forever
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>>137097640
Be happy you got to C5
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Pokken Tourny going on!

ennyMura on twitch
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>>137098316
Mega Swampert is such a hideous design.

In fact, at least half of the megas look rather poor.
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>>137098316
Gardeboir likes beefcakes?
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>>137098434
Mega Gardevoir looks great and that's all I care about.

>>137098747
That particular one does apparently.
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>>137098434
Here's a list of not shit mega designs

Gallade
Gardevoir
Charizard both
Mawile
Banette
Steelix
Altaria
Diancie
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>>137099000
>Charizard both
Y > X
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>>137098271
Jesus christ my ears what the fuck was that
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>5th time today the wireless connection d/c's despite the router being in the same fucking room

First, Nintendo's wireless be this shit is inexcusable.

Second, is this the cheapest adapter to get?
http://www.amazon.com/Network-Adapter-UtechSmart-Ethernet-Chromebook/dp/B00F41TWAO
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>>137099000
You don't like Mega Beedrill?

>>137099070
Correct.
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>>137099000
You forgot Alakazam and Ampharos

Also Charizard Y is shit.
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>>137099171
Oh my god that white guy just used Hyper Voice.
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>You will never help Nia win battles with her Weavile by cheering her on like she does you.
Why have I not bought the rope yet?
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>>137099310
>implying her cheering does anything besides ruin my performance
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>>137099310
I'm more surprised Nia didn't turn out to be a secret boss or anything. Wasted potential desu
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>>137099204
>Unironically believing Y is worse than X
I bet you think Mewtwo Y is better too don't you?
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>>137099310
>this game will never be popular enough to get any Nia porn
It's a goddamn shame. EVERY Pokemon girl worth her salt has a decent amount of porn, but Nia will go without forever.
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>>137099310
I hate Nia, so I'm glad. I hope she stays in E5 hell
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Oh, right. Maintenance time.
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>>137099749
Now we are official dead. Let's discuss why Nintendo hasn't released Pokemon Amiibo cards
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>>137099685
Both don't look great.
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>>137099837
Because Nintendo has literally never made a good decision that isn't related to a single-player-only game.
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>>137099749
Literally just got back on to play some matches before bed. Damn shame.
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>>137099967
But Splatoon
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Who do you think they will fill those empty spaces on the roster with?
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>>137100189
No one. There will be a scant few balance updates for another month or two. Then it will die completely.
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>>137100189
MIENSHAO
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>>137100189
Missingno
Aerodactyl fossil
CoolTrainer
Bad Egg
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>>137100094
Still no easy way to local tourney and no official Western Tourney
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>>137100383
Oh god all of the yes!
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>>137100549
>>137100383
My super fightan weasel brothers
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>>137100383
>>137100549
We don't need more furfag mons, you degenerate fucks.
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>>137100383
M I E N S H A O
I
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N
S
H
A
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>>137100628
They are all furfags, even if they don't have fur.
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>>137100189
>Worst case scenario (for me)
Greninja
Zoroark
Science Pikachu
Swampert

>Best case scenerio (for me)
Scizor
Magnezone
Malamar
Aggron
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>>137100189
We need the best bug
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>>137100726
No one wants to fuck a Chandelure. Between Braixen, Lucario, Gardevoir, and Weavile, there are plenty of Pokemon for you disgusting pieces of shit to pinch your microdicks to. No more.
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>>137100864
>No one wants to fuck a Chandelure
No one tell him.
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>>137100864
>No one wants to fuck a Chandelure.
Where do to think we are?
Too bad Chandelure is pure.
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Anyone here play Suicine? My friend mains them and wants to get better . Any tips?
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>>137100864
>No one wants to fuck a Chandelure
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>>137100726
How about another technical fighter like Gengar?

Zoroark has the body type and moveset to fit the bill. It's ability is illusion.
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Real talk, no memes.
Would this place be better if we had some sort of chat? You could organize fights with certain others better, maybe have better tournament turnouts, even have a room for waifufags.
You can have a chat and a thread going at the same time too.
I'm just throwing ideas out to decrease some of this dead game spam

Also when's Mawile
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>>137101194
Horrible idea. Discord killed /ssbg/.
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>>137101017
>jump back blizzard
>randomly do CAs
>hydro pump
>randomly attack

Free wins. Such a fraudulent character.
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>>137101152
Please take the collar off of Zoroak. Zoroak is dignified.
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>>137101240
And /mk8g/, though I'm sure we're all better off for it.
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>>137101194
i dont see a problem with it
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>>137101194
I wouldn't mind it.
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>>137098271
Good fucking lord that charizard was read like braille
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>>137101152
Zoroark would be sort of hard due to its illusion
Unless they have it soon the verses screen and in game it appears as a mirror until it takes enough damage
Kind of fuck up people wondering why a Gardevoir or an Braixen is rushing at them and not sitting in the back
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>>137101352
>>137101240
/ink/ has one and it's still intact because no one brings their memes back into the thread.
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>>137101194
No. Any type of skype/discord/irc kills the shit out of generals. I've seen it happen to multiple generals.
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>>137101152
Zoroark really wouldn't work because >>137101494. It can't even mimic most of their moves.
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>>137101564
>>137101240
>>137101352
But instead of outright hating them, what about WHY they "killed" these generals?
What happened? Why can't we just not be as cancerous as whatever group who did whatever
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>>137101559
>thinking about getting back into splatoon
>/ink/ has a discord

Fucking stupid as fuck. Why are all nintendo related generals cancer? Why are these threads not enough?
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>>137101559
Dude, I don't know what /ink/ you've been seeing, but the /ink/ I've been seeing has been just posts about how much they want to fuck the Squid Sisters It's not much better.
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>>137101679
It's not about the cancer, it's about it taking discussion away from the thread. Why would anyone go to a thread to wait for a response when they could get an instant one in the Discord? Generals nearly instantly die as soon as Discords pop up.
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>>137101720
We really aren't much better though.
Strangely enough, the only good general I've been on (that includes /co/ generals) is /sthg/. I mean, besides the occasional stupid argument and light waifuposting, it's actually a pretty chill general.
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>>137101679
Not any of those guys, but it's something about people learning each other's names then calling everyone by name in the thread and it just ends up in the same few people attention whoring while everyone else shitposts about them.
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>>137101679
people say it takes activity away from the threads, but there's nothing wrong with using both a discord and the thread if you wanted to.

in this general's case, it would make matchmaking much more easier if you wanted to play against certain matchups or don't want to waste your time sitting in a room with the code on all day waiting for someone else to join in. of course, there's gonna be a lot of people against it solely because of muh anonymity and namefag/tripfag/whatever paranoia without weighing the pros and cons
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>>137101720
Everyone shits on the discord users so it's fine. It's basically a containment board and you can't even get in because they haven't posted the invite in years.

>>137101741
I think the Pokemon Splatfest just made everyone disappear. I haven't seen lobbies get created as often anymore
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>>137100189
Lopunny
Aggron
Bisharp
Deoxys
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>>137101679
While it's technically not "dead", what happened to /ink/ is that anyone who wants to play matches just goes to the Discord to recruit. And while they're there, they talk about the game, some misc. stuff, and before they know it, most of the players end up spending more time on the Discord than the general. This creates a sort of schism between the thread and the Discord, causing one crowd the backlash at the other, despite the fact that the two are connected.

TLDR: It creates a sort of circlejerk, and brings discussion out of the general.
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>>137102074
>there's nothing wrong with using both a discord and the thread if you wanted to
There's nothing WRONG with it, but no one DOES. And the few that do just become tripfaggots of the worst kind. Never EVER create a Discord if you want a general to live.
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>>137100189
Leavanny
Granbull
Nidoqueen
Mr. Mime
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How the hell is Gardevoir not a grass type? It's obviously an onion.
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>>137102384
Because she's a cute fairy.
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Is there any point in redoing the Shadow Mewtwo events once you're unlocked the ability to replay them or is it "just because"?
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>>137101963
degenerate posting is awful but that is par for the course in a general I don't even consider it - points if we're talking about how good or bad a general is (protip they are mostly bad)

>>137102092
So its like a seekrit club? For a game that is not gaining any NA players that seems stupid to do.

Just because they get shat on doesn't make it fine. I actually liked some of the splatoon fags and have some of them on my list.
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>>137102456
>we only got one fairy type
>it's the one that's the least like a fairy
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>>137101282
Legit advice?
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>>137102635
You underestimate the power of Gardfags and their faggotry
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>>137102635
Get fucked, Fairyfags. Your type made a goddamn joke out of the game balance. And the type you fucked over most isn't represented in Pokken at ALL, even as support. I hope all Fairyfags burn in hell.
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>mfw rando scrub chandy tries to bring online tactics to a tourney

top kek
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>>137102729
>tfw been a Gardevoir-fag since the original release of Ruby
No regrets. I raise one in every game.
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>>137102706
Not him, but if Suicune CAs and the opponent doesn't block it, he gets free spacing.
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>>137102854
>Tfw Hoenn's the only region you've never played
I had my Sapphire stolen the day after I bought it. I will never forget that rage
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>>137102836
But there are a bunch of fighting types in this game, anon.

Fairy didn't fuck over bug types. Bugs were fucked since gen 1.
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>>137102991
Hoenn is my favorite region. Played Ruby, Emerald, and am still playing Omega Ruby. I just love the whole region and its Pokemon.
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>>137103097
Bugs got FAR better in Gen V. Gen V had Bugs actually balanced. Then Fairies and le priority 120 BP STAB burd came along.
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>>137103097
Didn't help that they fucked them even more.
Bug SHOULD have been super effective against Fairy.

I mean, if they're going to make the two worst attacking types super effective against it, why wouldn't they help Bug, effectively the worst type?
Oh, right, it would fuck up Gardevoir too much.
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>>137103180
I will always remember you, Durant.
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>>137103160
Never got into Hoenn, for obvious reasons, but I like some of the Pokemon from there
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>>137103180
Eh, I'd say that bugs weren't super great in gen V. They were better, but still not great. I hope Sun and Moon tweaks the type charts to make ice less shitty defensively and bugs less shit in general.
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>>137103280
>for obvious reasons
Too much water?
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>>137103252
>Bug Worst Type in gen V
>Not Poison
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>>137103280
If you have a 3DS, I highly recommend picking up either Omega Ruby or Alpha Sapphire.
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>>137103280
>for obvious reasons
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>>137103385
>>137102991

>>137103436
Eh, I played the demo. Never got into it
I don't know why. Just not feeling it
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>>137103375
They weren't SUPER great, but they were viable. You had SO many great Bugs introduced in Gen V, in addition to U-Turn giving enormous help to the type. It was the best they'd ever been, and since they started out as the "crappy early game" type, it was an amazing gen for Bug fans. Then this goddamn generation came around and made them worse than they were in Gen 1. There is literally no reason to use ANY Bug type that isn't Scizor now.
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>>137103412
I'm talking about now, man.
Poison and Steel have been boosted greatly, but Bug, as per usual, has been left to suffer.

And also as usual, being a Bug Maniac is suffering.
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>>137103542
To each their own I suppose.
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>>137103559
Trick Room Escavilier is pretty silly.
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>>137103540
There's so much water
Why is there so much water?
The demo fly around with Wallace makes it look like it's 90% islands like it's the Sevii islands
There's so much water, WHY IS THERE SO MUCH WATER?
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>>137103436
>not just recommending Emerald on emulator on your CFW'd system of choice.

Hoenn is my favorite region and I probably played the game like 5 times and I could not even get past the 5th gym in the remake. I even beat X and Y and didn't find it as bad. Unless you like online pokemon battles avoid ORAS.
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>>137103697
This. X/Y is more of an enjoyable experience than ORAS
Better getting a R/S/E emulator than playing ORAS
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>>137103673
I'd argue that Trick Room is inherently gimmicky and unreliable, especially as you can't lengthen the effect like you can weather moves, but that does sound like a pretty fun trick.
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>>137103809
>tfw I stopped playing pokemon until X and Y came out
>last region I completed was hoenn

Should I try platinum and B&W? I always listen to the OST of these games and it makes me want to play them so bad but I play for an hour and drop them.
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>>137103681
I don't know anon. I just don't know.
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>>137104010
Platinum is pretty great, and I personally enjoyed BW more than any other game in the series, though I recognize that it's certainly the most polarizing. It's the least Pokemony Pokemon there is. BW2 has a LOT of little things great about it, and a wonderful National Dex on par with XY's.
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>>137104010
You'll get varying opinions with B&W, but Platnium is universally panned as the best game in the series
If you can't choose, go Platnium
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guys the server maintenance is over!
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>>137104010
Gen 5 I'd recommend personally, as there are some pretty hype moments, the OST is great, and some of the best-designed Pokemon in that gen are the best designed in the series. Can't vouch for Platinum personally, but it's well received for a good reason.
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>>137104389
>and some of the best-designed Pokemon in that gen are the best designed in the series
Eh, I don't know
Some of the Pokemon in B&W I wouldn't call "Best in the series". Even the best looking ones
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>>137104250
>>137104192
>>137104389

Platinum is so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq742Ip5Tbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWKA-JGA-3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYOVpdd9Hgc
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>>137104549
you've got a problem anon?
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>>137104768
I would like to debate you on your tastes
Though, Serperior is great. Snivy, not so much
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>>137104549
Yeah, I might be biased on that statement, because all of my favorite Pokemon are from that gen. But something about a lot the Pokemon from Gen 5 just kinda felt right to my eyes. It's all pretty subjective, so I can't really describe it as anything other than "it just is".
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>>137104358
Was anything patched?
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>>137104910
Eh, it's fine. No need to apologize.
Have you played the other Gens?
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>>137104549

If a DLC character happens, I'm putting my money on pic related.

It does three things:

Adds a new quadruped, more variety like Suicune
Adds a bug-type
Adds a new Gen V representative

Scolipede on its own is actually a really popular/designed pokemon anyway, I don't see how it couldn't.
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What Tekken/Soul Calibur references have you guys found in this game? I've found a few.

>Pikachu
Has multiple Mishima moves, like the leg spin and the EWGF. Has one of Heihaichi's victory poses, and one of his lose poses is very similar to one of Kazuya's win poses

>Charizard
Has Devil Jin's laser eye grab, but with fire

>Sceptile
Has one of Yoshimitsu's strings. Not really something unique to Yoshimitsu, but both have Izuna Drops, too.

>Shadow Mewtwo
Has some of Algol's blade swings
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>>137105213
I'd be game for this. Scolipede is a great Pokemon. Hopefully they'd implement it right and make it speedy.
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>>137104910
Gen V definitely had some really cool ones.
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>>137105251
Blaziken has some bruce and hwoarang moves and poses too and Gard has some of lili and asuka moves
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>>137105440
I knew Gard's uppercut looked familiar...
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>>137104910
>Tfw accidentally restarted B&W
>Tfw forgot that you need to complete the story so you can transfer pokemon from FRLG to HGSS to BW to the Pokebank
>Tfw have to replay BW all over again
I have nothing against the story, but I hate how you have to finish it to trade from older games
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>>137105564
And that chargeable spinning move in duel phase
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>>137105636
Thats actually lili's new move from T7 it is similar to asuka's though
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>>137105123
Well, I call it played, but it's all sort of a blur to me. Blog incoming.

I never played a Gen 1 game, mainly because my parents never bought me one, and I'm too polarized by new mechanics to try and go back.

I didn't know what "saving" was in Gen 2 so I thought you had to speedrun it before your batteries died. I always picked Cyndaquil though.

I tried to faceroll Gen 3 using only a Gyarados, failed, and then my save data got corrupted. I did beat ORAS though, and that was pretty good. Maybe one day I'll pull it up again.

Gen 4 I actually beat the E4 with Best Water Starter only. That was great, but didn't feel like completing Platinum to go through the whole game again.

I liked Gen 6 a lot, and played through it again recently. There are a lot of nice looking Pokemon there.
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>>137100189
Loppuny
Glaceon
Scizor
Hydreigon
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>>137105909
How were you alive in Gen 2 and still dumb enough in Gen 4 to only use one Pokemon?
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>>137105365
Dis nigga knows
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>>137105715
vid for reference https://youtu.be/Ph_lbxLxmvQ?t=70
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>>137105909
So basically, what you're saying is, you really didn't get into Pokemon until Gen 4
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I hope you all have a nice night.
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>>137106042
Apparently, I didn't learn my lesson from Gen 3. It worked though, and I'm still baffled by it. I didn't even grind that much in Gen 4.
>>137106183
Basically, yes. I watched the show and played the tcg for a long time, but a combination of my brother getting higher vidya priority than me, and my total ignorance on how games worked really gimped my early experience.
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How do you guys deal with the inputs in this game? Shit never comes out when I want it to unless I mash sometimes. Pressing X 5 times feels inconsistent unless I mash it.
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>3 fire starters
>1 grass starter
>no water starters
FUCK FIREFAGS
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Milotic DLC when
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>tfw this pikachu in the tourney is looking like me right now vs this mewtwo
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>>137106524
>4 starters
FUCK STARTERFAGS
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>>137106567
>no legs
>can't float
>2big
NEVER EVER
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>>137106567
>>137107137
>Milotic is 20 feet long
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>>137106567
>tfw the true pretty pokemon wont get in

it hurts
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>>137107314
20 feet isn't actually so bad in practice because if you coil it up slightly it's not that much bigger than most everyon else from the roster, just check the intro fight from the arceus movie
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>>137107545
>that bad feel when Vivillion won't get in
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>>137106567
>Yfw they instead add Virizon Mobile and Keldo
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>>137107836
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>>137107836
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>>137107836
>the put in all the musketeers except the one that's actually cool
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Is it me, or are images broken?
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>No one on the vs code
I don't want to deal with ranked.
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>>137108476
It's 3 AM, anon. East Coast best coast.
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>>137108672
>Not playing at 2 AM after a day in Chicago
Sorry, I can't hear you over all of this CORN we have here.
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>>137108760
You can't even digest corn half the time. It looks the same as it does when it goes in.
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>>137109086
Fun corn fact: It's used as filler in almost every food that you eat.
Also used as a glue-strengthener.
Ethanol is another obvious use.
And much much more.
The world would be very different without our yellow friends, crop-peasant.
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>>137109935
Get your corn propaganda away from me. Huh, that's pretty neat.
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>>137110437
>>137110050
>>137104732
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>>137106057
Gen 5 best gen
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>>137110635
When I see this pokemon, all I can think of is that picture where one digests its trainer
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>>137110978
I require links
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>>137111093
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1442892
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>>137110635
Reuniclus would be pretty cool as a fighter.

Pic related would be neat too.
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>>137100189

Ferrothorn
Porygon-Z
Gourgeist
Heracross

These are the correct options
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ded hours ded thred
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>>137111217
Oh, that was kinda nothing.
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>>137111567
>Ferrothorn ever
>Another ghost
>the least interesting and unique bug
Only Porygon-Z is a good choice here.
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Anyone know what the maintenance earlier this morning was for? Did they patch out the S. Mewtwo infinite?
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>>137114208
Maybe it was, you know, maintenance? When they check that their servers aren't overheating and stuff?
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>>137114208
Probably just maintenance.

I just tried the infinite it's still there.
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So I love Garchomp/Braixen/Suicune but after getting E1 I just suck at answering people well. Ones like Machamp that rush and do a million damage I have a hard time countering out, and small guys just end up going under my attacks (I don't know if the hitboxes work like that but that's what it seems).

Any good tips? Preferably for Chomp. I don't dig spam/generally cancel out of dig when I find use for it, but I'm finding it's less useful now either way.
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Protip: If you see anyone with a high rank but with an under 50% winrate, it's DEFINITELY a ragequitter.
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>>137114849
I can only speak as someone that ran into a lot of chomps as I haven't dabbled with him too much. His counters are ridiculously good and is super scary when it comes to close combat because of his coverage. I might try running with cubone and diglett to help force people to fight. When it comes to knockdowns, sometimes you gotta take a chance and attempt a read. If you notice someone always goes straight into counters or tries to jump when you wake up, throw out a grab.
Due to the RPS-esque format of combat, you have to analyze how your opponent is reacting to things. the first round is very important in deciding how you're going to act for the rest of the match.
What problems are you having with puppy?
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>>137114849
Running stance should be the crux of your gameplan. Garchomp relies on momentum to keep the train going because the less time you give your opponent to think, the more you can use that to your advantage and punish their panic habits. Running stance not only leads into all of his crit RPS options, it's also mentally intimidating since you're basically saying "fuck your combos and your plans, you play by MY rules now." If you're having trouble triggering running stance I sometimes do because fuck if sometimes the controller has a hard time reegistering 3 presses you can always use 5[A] into [6].
5[A] usually works pretty well right after shifting to duel since it's really fucking fast, and usually catches people by surprise. By the time they start learning to counter upon phase shift, you have their reactions basically figured out and you can just go for a punish after the counter ends.
After shifting back to field phase, don't use your projectiles unless you were locked into an attack that started right after the shift and won't make it to the opponent in time. You want to keep up the pressure and rather than throwing out safe-to-block projectiles you're much better served running right back in their face and repeating the cycle again with a fast phase shift
Not sure what else there is to say
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Of the 3 types unrepresented as playable pokemon, which 1 of each type would you like to see as DLC. (& to fill the last spot, just some other random pokemon you want)

Normal: Meloetta (Synergy burst into other form, Speed)
Rock: Terrakion (more combo based suicune without all of the beams, Power)
Bug: Scizor (literally do not know why he's not playable already, Standard)
Last spot: a gen 7 pokemon, obviously

Gen 5 was my least favorite, but Meloetta & Terrakion imo would fit perfectly in Pokken
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>>137116420
I'd like Meloetta better if she transformed to her other form with certain moves, or maybe with phase shifts.
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>>137116673
I'd definitely enjoy it if she went into her Fighting type form in Duel phase, then back during field.
Would be cool.
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>>137116420
Miltank or Pidgeot
Aggron or tyranitar
Volcarona or Vespiquen
Toxicroak
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At what point do I know I'm ready for online anons? I'm scared of getting shat on.
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>>137118096
Online is very different from AI. All you need is a proper understanding of most your main's buttons and combos, and then you're ready to get shat on until git gud occurs.
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page 10 bump
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>when you hit with Gardevoir's burst but it doesn't initiate the animation
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>>137120563
the animation only exists if you land the startup, otherwise it just becomes an expensive beefy projectile
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>>137116420
definitely meloetta for normal type
kabuto for rock type
heracross for bug type
wild card for feraligatr
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Do you have to be a zoner if you play suicune
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>>137122635
If you want to be effective, yes. But unlike Gardevoir, Suicune isn't complete trash in close quarters.
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>>137074843
>Implying I don't hide my Wii U under the couch when I have company
Tis the life when you masquerade as a filthy normie
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they should add a quick temporary way to unlock mewtwo like they did with s.mewtwo
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dead game
dead meme
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>>137104892
and the result is that you have shit taste anon
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>>137123636
Like scanning a Mewtwo amiibo?
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>played a Gengar ditto with similar battle count and winrate of sub-40%.
I know your pain, my long lost brother.
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>>137123636
does it work?
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>>137130261
meant to
>>137129459
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>>137130174
qt
still wouldn't tho
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>>137130174
I thought he was jealous of ninetales. I guess I have some problems...
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>>137130918
well don't stop now nig
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>>137132931
So cute.
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bumpuuu
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>it's an "opponent uses burst attack blindly because they're scared and it works" episode
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>>137136264
>It's a "Getting combo'd at low health while mashing the Support or Burst button" episode
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Do machamps even exist above D rank? I havent seen one from what i remember.
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>>137137745
lots of stuff exists dude
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>>137137887
Deep.
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>tfw ranked is full of japanese laggers at the moment

Fuck this shit
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>>137137887
how do we know if we exist
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>>137138169
too lewd
go back to posting cute
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>>137137887
do pokemon exist
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>>137138497
Okay
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>>137138763
thanks m80
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>>137138917
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>tfw I wasted money
>tfw can't refund digital purchases

Always make the effort to go to the store even if you want to play it midnight badly.
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>>137139732
did you have fun
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>>137137745
I've seen three different C-ranked Machamps.

Only one was any good, we ended up having around 4 matches together in ranked in one session (about an hour and a half)

I got crushed the first two, barely one the third, and stomped him the fourth.

I think a good Machamp is going to be one of Libre's toughest matchups, just because Machamp only has to guess right maybe 3 times to wipe out Libre's health and Libre can only zone Machamp out while in field phase
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>>137139289
Fixed
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i wish it was possible for charizard to beat chandelure

charizard is pitifully slow on the ground, no chance of getting to chandelure that way especially considering the whole "no CADC allowed" situation. because of this, i get forced into the air, so he can just fire his anti air all day with no worries

even if i manage to get close to chandelure my only safe move against his dumb overheat and smog is charged aerial x, and if that's my only approach he can just use his spinny anti air attack when i'm in his vicinity at which point it's back to square 1
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>>137140035
During the first and second day. It seemed the better I got at this game the more I hated it. Also its heading towards the splatoon effect where most of the Western players are godawful and at some point in the climb you will only find japanese and laggers.

I want to try to learn another pokemon but I cant be assed anymore.
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What is this rage mode thing i ocassionally hear about? Tried looking it up but all i get is rage quitting
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>>137137960
Above a certain threshhold ranked is nothing but laggy beam spam, because people on consistently laggy connections using beam spam. This is both because they get tons of easy wins to rank up quickly and because the prevalence of that strategy at/above C makes legitimately good players abandon ranked.

Stick to friendlies.
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>>137140319
wait for evo/apex
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pls post more cute Gardevoir situations
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HOW DO I NOT PLAY SUICUNE LIKE A FAGGOT? how do i play this pokemon respectably?
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>>137145571
by picking someone else
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>>137145410
Garde vs. Lucario on Friendlies.
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>>137145571
I don't know what you mean by respectable. This is your first "fighting game"?
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>>137145571
you dont
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>>137145410
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>>137145571
It's respectable if you win. Nothing else. Now go out my champion.
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>>137145571
go in for 200 damage airX combo
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dead babby first fighting game

glad this shitshow will be soon over so you manchildren degenerate can go back to mastrurbate to kiddie cartoons in your containment board
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>>137146651
t. mad smashfag
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>>137146651
diaper post
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>>137145997
Hilaorious
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>>137146651
Of all the dankest memes, this has got to be the most retarded
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when I type in the vs code for friendly match, what will happen if it odesn't find an opponent with the same vs code? Will it abandon searching or will it just find a random player? And if so, how do I know, if my opponent is from /vg/? silly question, I know, but curious
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>>137147479
it'll put you into a cpu match until you get matched with someone with the same code

/vg/ uses vgptg as the code for matchmaking
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>>137147479
It just keep searching. You'll enter a CPU battle after 10 seconds.
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>>137147479
1. It will continue searching for a player but will give you a CPU to fight. Losses against the CPU don't go on record

2. The code is public and anyone can input the code so someone from gamefaqs could be on. It's assumed that you are fighting with someone from /vg/ because it was a code made specifically for this thread
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>>137147715
>>137147771
aah okay, thanks for answering. I just tried right now, and 2 out of my 4 matches were people who had not played any online rounds so far, which seemed a bit odd somehow
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>>137147896
QT!
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>>137148219
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>>137148462
>green panties

???
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>>137148801
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>>137149158
>gardevoir doesn't use underwear
That's so lewd!
Too bad they wouldn't have covered anything anyways.
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>>137149365
Maybe they like the way they feel?
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>>137149495
J-jeez...
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So what happens when the thread has no pokken talk is that it becomes a shitty gardumpvoir?
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>>137150458
Yep. This is what happens when Gardfags get a foothold
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>>137150528
Would you prefer some Lucario paws, sir?
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>>137150587
No
Things get weird when Lucario gets posted
Really really weird
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>>137147991
>>137147991
Make sure you switch it to 'use' or 'on' (don't remember which it is) for the vs code or it will just match you in regular friendlies
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>>137150458
i've been gone for 4 days because no internet so i hope not
>>137150587
yes
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I lost to a R.Pika and Garchomp at a local Round Robin the other day with Blaziken. Any R.Pikas or Garchomps here I can practice with later tonight?
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>>137150716
aah, that's what I forgot... doh
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>>137150863
define "later tonight"
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>>137150682
I keep my autism on a leash, thank you.
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>>137151079
6-8 hours from now.
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>>137151131
I'll probably be a bit later than that but if you don't find anyone else by then I'll do a few rounds
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When will they restock the hori pads? Are they worth it? They look really comfy. Or should I buy a SNES adapter?
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I hope you're all doing good.
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>>137153197
P-post more paws
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>>137153238
No.
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>>137153435
;_;
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>>137153721
eww
lucario paws > shitxen paws
though sceptiles feet are fine
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>>137153851
The only difference between Lucario and Braixen's feet is that Lucario's are bigger, you pawslut.
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Okay, I have an idea.

>Pokken Main
>Smash Main
>what happens when the two have sex
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>>137153997
the difference is one sucks and one doesn't
I admit i'm a huuuuuge pawslut, though...
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>>137154184
>Suicune
>Wario
>Nightmares
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>>137154184
>Pikachu Libre
>Bowser Jr

Good lord why though
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>>137154184
>Pikachu Libre
>Peach

Eh, probably some shock stick foreplay and then loving scissoring or something like that. I dunno man.
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>>137154645
>Good lord why though
Because Bowser would be too big
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>>137154184
I don't play Smash, so I guess just a Garchomp humping air.
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>>137154184
-M2
-C. Falcon
-Whatever happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object
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>>137154184
>Suicune
>Little Mac
A good long pawjob for littlemac
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>>137154184
>Gengar
>Zelda
A lot of rape.
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>>137154184
>Garchomp
>Corrin
unexpectedly feasible and hot dragon sex
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I'm trying to learn my match up against suicune. What are suicune's up close options? Does suicune have good close range attacks or is that where he is vulnerable?
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>>137083115
id fuck that ugly nig
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Goddamn it stop making me think of lewds.
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>>137154184
>Gardevoir
>Sonic
Just like my fanfiction!
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>>137155643
if he puts you against the edge of the stage and uses ice wall you're fucked
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>>137155781
Can't you jump it?...or counter it?
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Dunno if any of you cool guys saw this/were emailed about it but Focus Attack is selling PS/Xbox controller converters for Wii U.
Also that Gamecube adapter is cute as fuck and if I didn't already have a mayflash I'd buy it.
https://www.focusattack.com/wii-gamecube/
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>>137156446
I can already taste the input lag.
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>>137157116
Yeah, you're probably not wrong.
May as well wait for reviews.
If it's equal to wireless controllers then I'm down because that's pretty negligible but anything more kinda kills it.
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>>137152470
Personally not a fan of it since I don't like playing with the d-pad, and I don't like the fattiness of the triggers. They ARE more comfortable than they look though.

>>137154184
>Blaziken
>Captain Falcon
>explosive cumming
I can't believe this is what's keeping this board alive
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Ok how many points do I need for D5 rank up? I've won so many and still no promotion.
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>>137157296
Cool that they're doing it though, I saw a guy play pokken on a ps4 stick and he actually got to winners, so that's pretty funny.
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>>137154184
>Sceptile
>Greninja and Robin were fun when I played
Greninja gets in Pokken
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>>137154184
>Garchomp
>Ganondorf

Hardcore power sex?
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>>137157717
More like gets in pokemon
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So where do you niggas put your skill points? Have you found a groove that works? Does it even make a difference. Ive been putting everything in attack
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>>137158190
I put everything in synergy on Pikachu libre, that constant enhancement and light armor state is extremely crucial to her for me.
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>>137157717
I really hope Greninja doesn't, especially since he wouldn't even add anything new.
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>>137158190
I put everything into Synergy with Gengar since he needs to make his count.

BUT I'm thinking about maybe putting it all into attack, since he has no damage.
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>>137158931
Yeah he'd pretty much be Weavile+Sceptile with maybe Libres wall hop.
I don't really want him in or anything, it was just a breeding joke.
They don't even share an egg group anyway
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>>137158190
I put everything into Attack with Blaziken cause I wanted to go max aggro. But I may put it into Synergy (I'm burst happy and the speedboost is godlike) or Defense (since Blaze takes damage so easily, from myself and opponent)
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>>137087219
what was the name of the little one'
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>>137159860
You mean Ralts? Or Kirlia?
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>>137088180
theyre pretty hot
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>chandelure's burst attack is a counter
>know he's going to use it so i jump behind him and start charging my counter breaking dive kick
>his burst attack somehow hits me as i make contact with the back of his head
why
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>>137154184
gengar
mewtwo

... riolu?
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>>137158190
I've mainly added to attack and defense. I think defense is a good idea to last longer, while stacking up your synergy, and attack is also good. Also put a little into both supporter pokemon because I choose the one, that gives synergy + health boost and synergy because gengar's synergy obviously
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>>137158190
I've been somewhat trying to put everything evenly but our of fits of rage after games I spam a after matches and accidentally put points in attack so my Shadow Mewtwo so far has like 23 attack and like 15 in everything else
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>>137161971
you can reassign skill points in "my town" anon.
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>An angry trainer yelling at his pokemon for losing
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>>137162256
Reminds me of HGSS
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>>137162256
Who do this in the game?
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>>137162921
No one, its just a thought that makes me sad.
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>>137157438
I have to play with the Dpad, the stick doesn't feel right at all.
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>>137162051
I know but I'm not sure what to invest them into anyway and it seems like it's working out for me.

I Got to D5 in like an hour and a half with this Mewtwo so I guess it's alright
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>>137154184
>Sceptile
>Dedede

Uh
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>>137090631
>gardevoir skips legs day
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>>137165015
What's wrong with its legs?
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Does anybody know anything about Hori controllers getting another round of production?

Is there any reason why they wouldn't?
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>>137165582
I actually ordered on on FUCKING GAMESTOP and said it ships out starting next week.

Be careful trying to buy on Amazon, they try to charge you $50 for one.
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>DUDE JUST BEAT A 3000 HP BOSS WITHOUT BURST LMAO
I'm too scrub for this shit.
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>>137166462
I'll look into that. My brother ordered one on eBay for $40 and is willing to sell me it for $30, but I told him I'd rather wait to try and get it for retail price.
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>>137165582
To expand on what >>137166462 said, 3rd part sellers on amazon are trying to sell it for double, but if you look at the full listings you can get one for $25, however they are on backorder with no listed release date.
I'm guessing they're guaranteed another wave after the 8th, they just don't have the specifics yet.
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>>137166516
>Beat the stupid boss because you manage to get the big synergy pick-up before being knocked into duel phase
>take the forced loss next round
>Then take him out when you both have perma-burst. Pray you don't get hit with the attack that hits the entire screen.
everything about that fight is bullshit
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>>137166765
Okay, thanks.

I wish it was a simpler process to get them. From what I was told when I went to pick up PT, pre-orders for the controller were cut off a week before the game's actual release.
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>>137166516
It only took me like 4 tries but I was playing and Machamp and Round 3 perma burst means free Bulk Up all the time which shits damage.
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>>137168230
Once I got past round 1, I got it first try. But that first round was fucking murder. Over five times the HP I had, disgusting AI reads, and no real weaknesses in the fighter itself. I had to luck my way through round 1 quick enough for it not to go Burst.
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Why no bug pokemon? Why, out of all the possible water pokemon, did they choose Suicune? Why no primeape?
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>>137169979
I'm actually okay with Suicune. It's moveset could've been a lot better, but as a water rep, it's a lot better than a fucking starter. They probably picked it because "Hey, Crystal was popular back in the day"

No bug Pokemon is a big problem. I'd be fine with pretty much any of them except Heracross and Genesect.
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>>137169979
Braixen looks like a bug
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>>137170729
delete this
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>>137170729
Don't be mean, anon.
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>>137171165
>>137171618
The truth hurts, huh?
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>>137171995
host
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>>137170729
One of the biggest pests in the game desu
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DEAD GAME
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G
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>>137096210
you should try that but facing her
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>>137096210
>read from left to right
disgusting
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>>137170729
The fuck did you just say?
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>>137174681
I said Braixen looks like a bug
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Why does 4chan still allow furshits to post here
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When you CADC, do you have invincibility to projectiles after you release X+A, you are still blue, and you are dashing forward??????

Or do you have to still be holding X+A when the projectile hits you for it to be countered?
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>>137175236
because we run this general
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>general is dying

Where did this meme come from?
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>>137175124
Fuck off with your lies, if bugs looked that cute I wouldn't be killing everyone that gets into my house.
Braixen a cute
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>>137176221
probably the slow post speed
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>>137176264
>Braixen a cute
sure, if you like bugs
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>>137176221
But it is, though.
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>>137176518
Okay
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>>137176774
only waifuposting will keep it alive
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>>137149495
wow, that's really lewd.
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Anyone on the code? I don't wanna get in there and wait 6 years.
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>>137177667
I am currently
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>those characters that everyone says are really good that you think are either average or shit
Gengar and Braixen
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>>137177684
Jumping in mate, because this thread has a better community than reddit.
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>>137177890
Literally every Braixen does the same shit

Either
>Divu, One combo, Broom Charge

or

>Run away spam Fireblast

This makes me believe anyone who tries to play Braixen is either a man child or some kid who doesn't know how to play
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>>137178272
that's her optimal playstyle
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>>137178146
how about the pokken arena board?
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>>137154184
>Gengar
>Corrin
Giratina
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>>137178551
Literally this.

I think you guys who complain about Braixen either have problems getting good, or have some higher form of autism.
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>>137178925
They're pretty alright, with lots of good players.
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>>137178146
I try my best anon.
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who has more options and can do more stuff, gengar or mewtwo?
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Anyone here play Machamp? Is the character worth picking up or is it garbage?
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>>137179058
>Sceptile
>Shulk
I don't know for sure, but Shulk will probably really be feeling it in the morning.
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>>137180048
mewtwo has a lot of stuff but a lot of it is either unsafe or bad against counters and his grabs have low damage

so i guess gengar wins by default in terms of "doing more stuff"

>>137180514
none of the characters in the game are garbage
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>>137154184
>braixen
>ROB
Robots can't have sex
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Very Good Game to Bunny, I've never really faced a Mewtwo before and yours was incredible. Really threw me off guard. Those relentless combos

>I want to get of Mewtwo's Wild Ride
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>>137183427
GGs Chef, those matches were quite tasty, your Braixen sure is hot stuff!

A few things I've noticed that should improve your MU against Mewtwo:

-8X X is a really bad idea considering how good M2's anti air is. I'd recommend doing 8X 4R (backward air dash) to safety!
-In field phase, I've once fought a Braixen that mixed up the Side Y > A with Side Y > A (hold) to throw off my barrier timings. You should add that to your cooking set!
-Try to get used to using 8Y instead of Counter Attack when expecting an aerial attack, safer and might even land you a full combo!
-Braixen's j.A is very, very dangerous to use against Mewtwo. Only use it if you're sure you'll catch him off guard, otherwise you'll eat barrier into crit stun.
-Please for the love of god and all that is holy, change the color of those sunglasses, just make them anything else than blue.

>>137179872
Keep up the good work, anon.
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>>137184057
Thanks for the tips, I do try to incorporate 8X 4R in my moveset but I often forget about it when panicking. 8X X is like my most used move in this game.

8Y never seemed to do me much before, as a CA can net me an 8X or 6Y combo after in most cases, but I get where you're coming from and have seen its utility in the past, so I'll definitely keep it in mind!

I have no idea what advice I can give lmao, I've barely played as Mewtwo
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>>137169979
>why Suicune?
It was a terrible choice, but they had to rep gen 2 somehow, unfortunately. Even they know Johtomons are shit so they just picked the boxart mon that had the easiest to work with proportions and called it done.
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>>137184586
To get the habit of doing 8X 4R, I'd recommend going into training mode, duel phase then doing IAD 4R j.Y a lot of times in a row. Not only it is a nice quick fireball but you'll end up having it as muscle memory the more you use it.

As for 8Y well it might be character specific. I can get amazing damages off my own 8Y but I wouldn't know about braixen, I just know that her own's 8Y has crazy high range.

No worries about the advices, I'm working on improving my mewtwo by labbing with another mewtwo!
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Quick question, what does 8X/4Y even mean? Press the x or y button a certain amount of times?>>137184586
>>137184057
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>tfw at work and can't play Pokken.
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>>137185440

The (number) + X/Y thing is to do with your X or Y button press + a direction. The number's relate to the NUM pad on a keyboard, which usually has arrows on the numbers 2,4,6 and 8

Simply, 2 is down, 4 is back, 6 is forward, and 8 is up.

So and 8X in Pokken is Up and X
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>>137185440
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>>137185779
Ah, I get it. Thanks anon.
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>>137185998
I don't get this
what's so hard about saying up Y and shit like that
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>>137186127
Easier to identify and it's not hard to instand since its standard between Japan and the west
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>>137186127
It's not necessarily an issue for this game, but for stuff with multi directional inputs like a quarter circle forward, its faster to type the number sequence rather than type out "quarter circle forward" every time.
Tldr FGC discussion habits.
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ggs coggert
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GGs Javi, your blaziken is really fun to fight
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>>137180048
Gengar can more stuff, but Mewtwo has more real options.
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anyone got a link to the soundtrack? Cant find it anywhere
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GGs Xpert, you really had me on the ropes there. Damn close.
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>>137187231
I know somebody had a link to download it all a while ago, i'll see if i can find it in archives
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>>137187893
appreciate it, you can post the link to the archives and i can look too
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GGs Antimony
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>>137188032
found it
the post has Flac and MP3 versions and being a retard who doesnt know tech stuff I have no idea what Flac is so have both versions to download

Flac: https://mega.nz/#!VcEHxaKQ!j07OAWN24T7llzE4C91-AoOiFHEGPLnUu_3u7LpHhs8

MP3: https://mega.nz/#!xQtgQBSS!lcs9C2FRMkRYAPBuCy10j6k2oTbSE6ZK4aG2NUvdd-U
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>>137188127
GG to you too man, well played.
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>>137188582
Thanks man appreciate it!
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>>137188736
no problem
>tfw only just notice that its 1am
and with that i sleep
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>>137188679
I'm also *shocked* by the lack of R Pikachu art..
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>>137188582
FLAC is lossless audio quality, best suited for burning to CDs or listening on high-end audio equipment..

MP3s are lossy and sacrifice audio quality for hard drive space. Those are best used for computer speakers and music players.
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Antimony, when you see her twirl and move back attack, it takes a while for it to explode. Rush in and attack. This the move I noticed that you respect to much. Also walk and bloc. If I knew R Pika better Id give you more advice but that's all I got.
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>>137188995
Why would there be a lot? Pikachu has been around forever. People are kind of sick of it, even if R. Pika is actually pretty cool. Doesn't help that a lot of people including me on some level are very pissed at it for basically gimping Hawlucha's gimmick.
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You guys ever pick stages because they work better for you? Which stages work best for your characters?
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>>137190069
>still being this mad about R Pika
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>>137190882
>picking stages
>implying there are people I can play with locally
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>>137190882
small stages because charizard leisurely strolls around if he's grounded
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>>137191295
I'm not mad, though. I actually really like her and think she has some of the most hype-looking attacks in the game. I'm actually more upset that regular Pikachu is in the game since he's so boring comparatively.
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>>137189668
True, my bad. I haven't fought against many Gardevoirs so I didn't realy know much you could do/ how to respond. Either way, GG, and thanks for the tips.
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GG's Fantasy! That last match was super close!
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>>137191838
GGs
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Anyone have any Gengar tips? I just picked him up, but I keep getting blown up online.
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>>137193190
gengar's weaknesses:
-field phase is bad
-easy to rush down
-all your attacks do low damage

gengar's strenght:
+synergy mode OP
+long range attacks
+tricky attacks
+tricky movement
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Sometimes I feel bad about camping out Machamps as Lucario.

Then he lands one combo on me and I lose half my health and I stop feeling bad.
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>>137190882
>vs chandelure/mewtwo/suicune on a long map
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Ok /ptg/ show us your
>character ideas
>assist set ideas
>stage ideas
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>>137197581
Any good machamp will get in anyway
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>>137197581
I'm glad it's not just me.
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What are the most common mains in here?
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>>137100189
this is rather cancerous but I don't hate it, the primary school anti social autist I forgot I had in me feels pity for him
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>>137197924
alakazam would use telekinesis to float around the ring and be a zoner. burst attack would be either focus blast or psychic
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>>137197924
Deoxys
One input cycles through his forms. His other inputs do different things depending on the form, leading to a complex and dynamic fighting style. Burst Attack would be Psycho Boost, regardless of form

Ratatta
Runs to the opponent on the ground and repeatedly bites them for tiny amounts of damage, but stuns them

Taillow
A flock of Taillow fly across the stage, dealing tiny repeated hits to the opponent if they're in the air

Phos Volcano Caves
4-leafed petal stage shape. Focuses on Rock type and Ground type pokemon, including an Onix that burrows out of one wall and back into another
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>>137138169
>your gardevoir will never gift you her salad smelling panties
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>>137197924
Stage: cave?

>>137199901
I would main deoxys especially if he stance changes

even if he was garbage
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>>137132763
whats the name of the blue and the tall gree one?
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>>137150587
>muh thick
>muh chubby
<muh fat is healthy
man I hate art depicting this
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>>137197924
Probably shit, but here we go. I spent too much time on this.

Leavanny
Gameplay: Midrange - Punish Style

Pokemon Moves
>Sticky Web
Works like Cyrax's web. Traps and sets up combos/grabs.

>False Swipe
A quick slashing attack that does low damage. On counterhit/critical hit, causes Leavanny to pass through the opponent and deal significantly more damage. Naturally, it cannot KO.

>Razor Leaf
Low to the ground projectiles that are easily jumped.

>Signal Beam
A quick anti-air beam attack. Doesn't knock back far at all or deal heavy damage, but shuts down jumps easily.

>Struggle Bug
Charge and release A. Causes Leavanny to flail forward. Unsafe on block, causes attack down on hit. Can be comboed into.

>Heal Bell
Slow start up, but removes all negative status and regens a little bit of recoverable life. Easily punishable.

>Retaliate
It's just a mini Raging Demon for no raisen

Synergy Form
>Appearance
Silk covers it's limbs and trails from them, giving all of it's movements visual trail

>Burst
Jumps up at a diagonal angle and spins slashing. Hits at point blank and punishes jumps at midscreen. After hitting, the cinematic shows Leavanny spiral through the air with the opponent covering them in silk before flinging them to the ground. As they fall, Leavanny shoots a Fell Stinger down at them for the finish.
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>>137153197
so is that a boi or a girl
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>>137160049
ralts, thanks I always forget
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Anyone else here feel legitimately sad any time they beat a gengar? gengar makes such a sad cry noise
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>>137165165
weak

if you cna't eat her ass or be chocked by her strong fit thighs you may as well go fuck a skinny trap boy
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Zoners seem to be the strongest characters in this game. That's because if you get up close, there are no high-low mix ups so you can't truly crack open your opponent. Your opponent also only has to win 1 game of rock paper scissors in order to reset the game back to projectile spam, which is a chore to break through.

We will see if this changes as people learn to optimize damage and get maximum damage combos.
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How do I do a grab attack? I press X and Y at the same time but it doesn't work. Which phase do I have to be in?
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>>137202062
X and A, anon.
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no one in the code right now?
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>>137197924
Wobbuffet. As a playable character: Slow, high health, defensive with lots of counter moves, maybe some attacks that reduce enemy support gauge or otherwise inhibit support use. (inspired by Shadow Tag, though I realize Mega Gengar also has Shadow Tag but doesn't do anything like this ingame)

As a support: More or less the same thing Electrode does, only it's better because I really like Wobbuffet.

>>137201169
Sounds fun to me.
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Anyone else find Suicune's voice very creepy? Something about Suicune sounding like a screaming human man transposed into a giant blue dog's body is very unsettling to me.
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>>137202062
B + A

>>137202139
B + A you dope
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>>137202584
wobbuffet so cute
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>>137197924
>character ideas
kangaskhan - rodger jr, becomes more like ice climbers in burst form

hitmontop - eddy gordo with rapid spin and triple kick

azumarill - power character focusing on high risk high reward stat buffs and heavy hits

meloetta - a projectile and defensive based character in aria form and becomes an up close and offensive character in puroette form

>assist set ideas
zorua - uses night daze for a dome shaped attack like fennekin except can expand and be used offensively
manaphy - uses heart swap to switch stats and recoverable health with the opponent if they touch her

genesect - uses techno blast to fire energy misses that lock onto the opponent, debuffs and effects may vary depending on what type
tangela - uses wrap to hold the opponent in place for a very short time

>stage ideas
wailord bay - takes place on a wailords back overviewing a beach cove with plenty of sea based water pokemon

amber comet - a high speed asteroid circling the earth with something like this as the stages theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNVzlI1M_Js
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>>137202725
>>137202139
One of you is fucking with me.
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My favorite pokemon are "weird" pokemon (Deoxys, dunsparce, wobbuffet, mr mime, jynx, unown)

I wish there were weird pokemon in this game. i would use it.
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>>137203183
It's B and A, I got the input mixed up. Just try both, you have the game don't you?
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>>137203183
It's actually B + X
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>You're losing HP!
>Ouch, they made you their punching bag...
>Your block's about to break!
>Awesome! My cheering seems to have worked, huh?
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>>137203183
it's the bottom 2 buttons. I can't remember what they are. if you turn green you did it right. didn't you do the tutorial?
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>>137203246
Chandelure is the weirdest Pokemon in the game, and it's even weirder than some of those Pokes. I'd love to see Mr. Mine, or Jynx, though.

I'm surprised Unown isn't an assist.
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>>137202139
>>137202725
>>137203183
>>137203256
>>137203316
Jesus, how did you all manage to get it wrong?

Unless you've fucked with your control settings, grab is Y+B and counter is X+A.
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>>137203414
chandelure has a very homosexual play style though. i would like to play mr mime who uses magical leaf, hidden power, and maybe thunder wave which decreases speed so i can get in close to do double slap
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>>137203853
>chandelure has a very homosexual play style though
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>>137203853
Well, his signature move is Barrier, so he'd probably focus around making MODOK style barriers and punishing attempts to get around them.
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>>137204170
It's pretty gay, anon
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>>137204279
>using Light Screen to create new walls on the field that block projectiles and can be used to wall splat enemies
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i went up against the first ever braixen that gave me trouble today, but it just got laggy and i could cadc the fire blasts

he abused it of course, but i had bodied him the first round then it got laggy to the point i could cadc anymore or at least it felt like i couldn't

does cadc straight up not work while laggy or am i just not good?

I've been using the "r-tapping" method where you counter+direction and then tap r to instantly cadc

any help would be nice. and btw i was playing as lucario
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>>137202026
Zoners are really fucking strong because at a distance there is no RPS. The opponent can either

Block. Which may give chip damage and for that moment that they block they only have a few options keep blocking,advance or jump. Blocking a long range is always a + in favor of the person who threw the projectile. It is expected for projectiles to be blocked so thats why some projectiles are balanced with having chip or no chip but having pierce and other properties.

CADC. Depending on the projectile it can be a really good or bad option. Its technically a jump that leaves you on the floor that negates projectiles I know it sound crazy but hear me out. It beats a particular option of the opponent but moves you forward a set distance no matter what and has an opening. Depending on how you zone you can bait a CADC but its the opponents scariest option since it negates hitstun and damage.

Projectile punish. Usually the weakest option for the opponent since most projectiles zoners throw out beats other projectiles unless the opponent plays a zoner too then its more up to MU knowledge than the projectile game.

But all in all most of the opponents actions can be reacted to at a distance. I feel thats what makes them so strong now but the way projectiles are balanced in this game is by not giving chip and not shutting down all options. Once people get more experience characters that can mixup more like the mew2's and gengar will come out on top since they will FORCE a guess when they are at an advantage and you don't even have to be knocked down.

I honestly might pick up a zoner tbhh famlam.
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>>137204521
Yes, lag fucks it up. That's the whole reason behind the "Can't CADC online" epic meme
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>>137204521
fire blast has long starting frames and long recovery frames. CADC is the best course of action. But if it is too laggy to do so, even just blocking the fire blast and dashing forward can effectively closing in.
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>Struggling to stay in D4 with Gengar.
>Switch to pikachu and move up to D2
Jesus Pikachu is insane if you use him right.
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>>137205128
Pikachu is great in the lower ranks but he starts falling off once you get to tougher opponents. I'd honestly suggest staying as gengar and I'm a pikachu main soul searching at the moment.

But glad to hear you are moving on up.
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>>137205128
>inb4 you switch to mewtwo/edgy2 and climb to C5

that's I did it. They are fun to play and pretty spammable as well, but in a less annoying way.
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>>137205459
>Edgy2
>less annoying
He's literally the worst offender
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>>137205732
I do not use the infinte, so I don't really know how you can say hes an offender, unless you are just memeing here
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>>137205940
Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it's not there and other people don't use it.
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I'm so shit at this game
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>>137206253
You'll get better anon, just keep on playing, yeah?
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>>137206253
Welcome to the club.
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>>137204707
Thanks that's some solid advice, will do
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Why does Gardevoir's winning pose make me so happy?
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>>137206864
Which one? She has at least 3.
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>>137206253
Who are you playing?

Give everyone a chance, don't buy into the "day 1 main" meme
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>Double-perfect a Braixen by out-zoning it with Aura Spheres for the rank-up

I don't know what I'm supposed to be feeling right now.
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>>137206864
Because you are a closet Gardfag
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>>137206864
Because she's super cute.
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>>137206921
All 3 of them
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>>137206973
HOW
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>>137206971
Sceptile
I did that when the game came out tho
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>>137206973
Jumping aura sphere has such good frames like holy fuck.
>>137206864
she's super cute
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>>137206864
Because he is a perfect gentleman.
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>>137206971
Not him, but what if you don't like the other Pokemon?
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>>137207184
Lulu's aura sphere's are actually pretty decent and nullify weaker projectlies.
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good games corp_dan
sorry for bothering you
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doodle your mains.
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Thanks for the games, Santa. I think I need to reset my router because those last two matches got really ugly.
I assume that you're pumped for Zero Time Dilemma?
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>>137209198
Does it really nullify Fire Blast? I know uncharged aura sphere loses to Gengar's shadow ball.
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>>137209295
I'm not an artist.
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>>137209295
Did this like, a day ago, so have this.
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>>137209350
Hell yeah, motherfucker
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>>137209384
it beats fire blast.

source: I main braixen
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>>137209350
>>137209787
>ZE fans
Holy shit, this is the first time I've seen anyone else on 4chan as so much as reference this series.
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>>137207173
>>137206864
>Little adorable dance with lewd voice
>clean off dust from dress then bow which is both cute and respectful
>That cute little "SAII~" when she spin her arms

Best win animations
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>>137210076
Threads pop up on /v/ when new info/trailers pop up. Was an artbook dump a few days ago, I think.


But on topic of the thread, how do we solve the Braixen problem?
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Sorry santa
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>>137210326
i can't handle her voice.
too moe
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>>137210548
It's cool.
Could be me yoo.
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ggs pikachu
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>>137210326
>Best win animations
But Gengar's reality breaking bullshit exists.
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>>137210331
You have the link?
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>>137210331
What Braixen problem?
>>
>>137211559
too slutty
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ggs Mugen
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>>137212221
you honestly think those were good?
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>>137211862
he asked for a problem
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>>137212476
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>>137212476
No, but with only 30-40 friendlies under your belt, what am I supposed to expect?

You got me on some mixups but couldn't follow up, and you have no idea how to play the matchup but that's not your fault. You caught on to some things I was doing on field (eating up your projectiles) which I thought was good, but didn't know what to do from it. I was playing incredibly recklessly and it's hard to keep up the aggression with Lucario.
>>
gg Nanaca.
>>
ggs obs
remind me to never play off 2 hours of sleep again
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>fingers start desynching from your brain and fall alseep as you play

does this happen to anyone else
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>>137213518
Yeah
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>>137213518
No, because we sleep when we're tired
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>>137213673
Speak for yourself mortal
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I swear I think people try much harder in Friendly Matches than they do in ranked
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>>137214443
well noobs spam projectiles to grind rank points. What's the point of spamming the same thing in friendlies if it grants no reward?
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>>137214443
Friendlies are the only place where you can consistantly play the same match up for a long time and then learn it. You're learning and adapting. The environment is to random in Ranked to be a learning experience.
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>>137215297
>noobs spam projectiles to grind rank points
But then they lose to good players and they don't know what to do.
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Good games Nanaca. Hope you liked those free wins.
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ggs santa
sorry if i got a little autopilot there
i should sleep
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>>137215371
I mean I'm not sure if I learned anything from ranked really, I actually started out with Blaziken and switched to S Mewtwo and just learned a few standard combos. I still can't CADC for shit.

Also I forgot how to play Blaziken completely and any other chars for that matter. I'm afraid to try others again Because I'll forget all my S Mewtwo shit
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>>137210076
there's ZE threads on /v/ all the time
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Thanks for the games, Machamp. That was tense back there.
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>>137217243
>there's no Pangoro in this game
WHY
H
Y
>>
>>137217243
Yeah, good games. I always need more practice getting around projectiles.
>>
>>137207373
Then you're only playing it because it has Pokémon branding on it, assuming you haven't even tried the others
>>
What controller do you guys use?
>>
>>137218554
pro
>>
>>137218554
Gamepad
>>
>>137157438
>>Blaziken
>>Captain Falcon
Nothing.
>>
>>137218554
Wii u pro

Still waiting on the pad, rip
>>
>>137072740
>Pokemon outside /vp/
What is this.
>>
>>137218686
>There is actually art of this
>>
>>137218554
Pro controller.

I ordered a Hori but it won't arrive for a while...
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>>137130774
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>>137218554
I use the GamePad, but I'm holding out for a Hori to appear on the horizon.
>>
Is Hori that good?
>>
>>137209350
>>137210076
I have Akane too. I need to play more single player to unlock stuff.
>>
The League Champion was pretty cute. I'm surprised there isn't any voiced events for rematches, or dialogue of any sort. Don't even get to see her full portrait again.
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>>137219498
Forgot pic.
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>>137219716
reminder that Phi is Diana and Sigmas daughter
>>
>>137219442
People just want it because it's "special" and because they place all their hopes on the "better" button placement letting them become good
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>>137219716
>akane's background
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>>137219949
Or we just want a comfier controller.
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I think I ruined someone's night...
He played me 8 times and lost all of them. But you know, gotta put them in their place.
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>>137220574
lol
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>>137220574
>he took a photo of his tv screen
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>>137220574
>>137220798
I don't know about that guy but I'm personally more likely to stick around in a lobby if you're way better than me
>>
>>137220574
>>137220798
fuck off you cocky bully
>>
>>137220574
>bragging about shadow mewtwo wins
It's like your playing petshop, fuck off man. Not even that guy but when your character basically makes it so you can't risk blocking in field phase the person playing you is basically fucked.
>>
>>137221149
:^)
>>
Thanks for the games Fantasy. Your approach denial is insane.
>>
>>137221149
On that topic, let's say the next patch makes the following change:
>self-damaging moves can now reduce your HP to 0, resulting in a self-KO
What happens?
>>
>>137220974
>Implying you don't ever feel smug when you beat someone numerous times
Do you even fighting games
>>
>>137221421
I can't use Blaziken anymore
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>>137218886
Rule 34, man.
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>>137221309
GGs Dan.
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>chomp mirror
>rush him down so hard the only time he ever touches the ground for longer than a fraction of a second is in the very beginning of the round
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>>137221690
>Lucario Mirror
>They don't know what they're doing
>>
Anybody playing with the versus code?
>>
>>137222254
ill hop on
>>
>>137221149
I wanted to learn Blaziken but he's garbage vs anyone who can sit back with projectiles so I took the easy way out
>>
>>137222254
I'll hop on for a few rounds
>>
What the fuck was that game two, nanaca? I start winning and then suddenly there's a billion hours of input lag while you beat my ass ? really dude?
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>>137223075
>implying only you got input lag
calm your tits guy
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>>137154184
>Pikachu
>Pikachu
I win!
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Don't know what happened there, Peridot. Great games, though.
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>>137223176
It happened twice and now there's a dc. Neato.
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>>137223853
ggs
haven't fought too many suicunes, need to learn the matchup
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>Peridot is in this general now
Go shit up /ssbg/ instead
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>>137223856
yeah that was my lag switch, i couldn't have some nerd putting a scratch on my awesome 60% winrate so I disconnected the servers
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>>137224164
Nanaca, I recall having problems with you too. Pretty sure your connection is just butts.
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>>137224269
probably, it's usually fine but it blips on some days
just as well, sleepy as fuck
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>>137224164
I wasn't saying that, I was saying it's gay it dc'd. I need garchomp practice.
>Peridot plays braixen
Could you be any more cancer dude?
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>>137224627
zoners are my lifeblood
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>>137224627
He plays cancerous shit in Sm4sh too what did you expect?
>>
>>137224659
I thought you'd at least go for chandy or garde, not straight for the fucking pedobait. Christ.
>>
>>137224912
This guy LITERALLY plays Pink Villager in Sm4sh, like did you just expect him to stop being a faggot overnight?
>>
>>137224627
please don't use gay in that way. It's very offensive.
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>>137224912
i like mages
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>>137225194
>that second round
What is it with input lag in friendlies? I only get laggy games every once in a while in ranked.
get perfected m8 :^)
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>>137225435
dunno, rarely ever get input lag in this game
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>>137225194
yeah me too.
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>>137226580
braixen thighs give me a reason to live
>>
GGs peridot
I wanna play someone else now
Maybe go back to nanaca since I haven't beaten him yet.
>>
GGs oberon
>>
Anyone else playing the bracket or is it over?
>>
>tfw finished the story mode/league with only 1 lose
>thought i did pretty good
>Join a ranked match just to be obliterated by a Shadow Mewtwo
Maybe i hit him like 2 times
How the fuck do i get good
>>
>>137228245
Play in friendlies for a while.

Story mode is EZ.
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>>137228245
Playing an AI is nothing like playing a human being.

There are a lot of ways you can get good:
Practice a lot.
Play a lot.
Play a lot with people who are better than you.
Watch videos of people who use your character and win more than you do against other people who are also better than you.
etc.
>>
>>137228646
Also, one very important general tip I forgot to add:

Learn how to block well.

Most beginners in fighting games are complete shit at blocking. Either they don't fucking block at all (because all they want to do is attack), or they block way too much (and just get grabbed/guard crushed a million times).

>but blocking is boring!
You know what else is boring? Getting KOd before you can land a single punch.
You need to learn how to defend yourself.
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new thread

>>137229041
>>137229041
>>137229041
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>>137205418
Why does Pikachu fall off on higher ranks? He has great pressure up close with his uppercut/hurricane kick, and isn't too bad far away either.
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>>137218554
Hori pad. Preordered two the moment they were announced. No regrets.
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