/evn/ - English Visual Novels

if we weren't so lazy we'd be working on our games

>>137186745
I didn't work on mine at all today. Feels terrible.

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>>137186745
Shit.

It's all going to be okay, anon. You're going to finish your game and you'll find out all the pain and suffering was worth it in the end.

Just kidding, it's all going to crash and burn. April Fools! :^)

>>137187169
It's alright. I knew all along that this was going to tear me down. I knew I'd never make it, like everyone else here. There's no hope of achieving our goals, since we aren't the lucky ones. The lucky ones always achieve their goals. We're just the rabble. The group of nothings who will never amount to anything.

April fools. We're all going to make it, and nothing can stop us. Not even Cthulhu.

Where can I find reliable workers who will do exactly what I want to help complete my games for minimum wage or less?

>>137187554
Third worlders.

>>137187554
>reliable
>hard worker
>cheap

Pick two.

Remember to put lips on your lolis, /evn/

>>137188781
Kissing lolis is illegal, anon

>>137188190
>reliable and hard worker
>left out skilled

>>137188781
Yuri lolis?

>>137193393
We have at least two people making those, do we need any more?

>>137193789
>citation needed

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>>137193893

>>137193893
You missed the anon in the last thread.

>>137195202
That's not a yuri game though.

>>137194587
It looks like that game was well received on Steam.

>>137195202
Yeah, I have no clue.

Don't die yet

>>137197590
Say that to my face not online and see what happens

>>137198459
How can they do that when you only exist online?

>>137195373
Fuck. Why do I always assume everything here is either yuri or bl?

News guy wept and told us,
/evn/ was really dying
Cried so much his face was wet,
Then I knew he was not lying

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>>137193893
Probably this, although it's only borderline loli.

>Nitro+'s April Fools joke is toddlercon fanservice
w e w

Will Western devs ever be so openly depraved?

>>137201176
>Will Western devs ever be so openly based?
ftfy
I wonder what the west would be like today if religion had never caught on.

alive thread

>>137205092
I'd hit that

>>137206702
In the face with my dick.

Well this thread is off to a good start. Doesn't anyone have any progress?

>>137201176
Need more info, because I can't find it

>>137208889
http://supersonico.jp/

>>137208736
I'm busy writing, I never have anything good to show.

>>137209402
>10 months old
Damn. Even as a joke, that would set westerners ablaze with fury.

>>137210323
Just the stupid ones.

>>137213715
Isn't that nearly everyone though? I mean, on average, westerners are really stupid let's be honest.

>>137213963
People are stupid.

>>137213963
It's not just westerners. Everyone is stupid in some way. It just so happens that a lot of westerners hold an extremely warped view of sex and throw all logic and reason out the window when it comes to that topic.

>>137215184
Yes, but there's normal stupid and then there's in your face annoying as hell stupid.

>>137216234
>that one guy

>>137215963
I feel like when you start bringing in 10 month olds into the picture, it isn't really that extreme of a view anymore.

>>137218130
Next you'll be telling me only robots should be allowed to change diapers.

>>137200924
Haram

>>137218758
Harem?

>>137218130
The thing is they aren't ten month olds, they're drawings. Heavily stylized ones at that. No matter how extreme or grotesque a drawing might be, it's still just a drawing.
If westerners had any sort of consistency in their reasoning then violence and gore in the media would be just as taboo, but instead it's viewed as normal entertainment. People love watching others beat the shit out of each other, get blown up, or die in horribly gruesome or comical ways, many of which can still be considered pg-13. But you expose a single tit and that's it and it almost guarantees it'll be rated R.

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Hello.
Suppose I want to start making a visual novel but didn't know anything about visual novels, which games you recommend me to play to dive into this?

>>137227581
I'd question your sanity, your motivations, and tell you to fuck off back to amateur game dev or the hgames thread, whichever gave you the idea to try and make a thing you know fuckall about.

really, what's the point of trying to make a VN if you're not into VNs already? knowing what you're trying to accomplish would help give you more useful advice.

>>137227581
If you have to ask this, don't make a visual novel.

>>137228065
Fuck off troll, you probably don't even play visual novels.

>>137228189
I think you will find it is you who are the troll, good sir!

I want to write a book, but I can't read. Can someone teach me? I'm using text to speech and voice typing by the way.

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>>137228585
>>137228640
What are you doing so late Frank? Go to sleep.

>>137227581
>>137228824
Thanks for keeping the thread alive kind sir.

>>137229045
May you use your knowledge on visual novels and answer? Or are you not a real fan of visual novels?

Why is this troll lurking this thread if it isn't a real fan of visual novels? Just asking.

>>137229617
Did you know that people can pretend to be things they're not?

>>137229617
Try answering
>>137228065
And people may actually help you.

>>137229796
I know that trolls in 4chan are a thing, but this one is really strange. Anyway, I somewhat find what I was looking for.

Maybe tomorrow I can find the other people, this thread is not entirely full of trolls. For now I will just ignore the troll and go to sleep.

Good night.

>>137229246
Play UAB. Then download renpy and make another VN like UAB.

haha no

>>137235204
Just let it happen

>>137235564
None of you are worthy of this thread. It will ascend to the arms of the Prophets without you.

>>137236831
>Prophets
wormhole aliens

wake up pupper

/evn/ is kill

I kinda wanna write an evn where you can date your cute imoutos... And make it a proper incest story, not one of the cop-out 'we're actually your step-sisters so it's not really incest!' ones...
And make it cute, not dramatic/edgy.

I've wanted to write something like this for ages.......

I refreshed and am greeted by this hell. aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>137242159
Scrub.

who told hiroyuki about April 1st

>>137242441
chinese moot has gone too far

the name I roll is going to be the protag's name

>>137242942
BUT HE'S MALE

>>137242942
the name I roll is going to be the heroine

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
What did Hiroshima do to the boards?

>>137243505
Calm your tits Vicky, it's just a prank bro

>>137243505
dragging us kicking and screaming into 2016

next planned feature is mandatory facebook/twitter sign-ins

Are there any good VNs with a sister route? I'm hankering for some sweet incest.

Is KiraKira any gud?

>>137243708
and you can't post unless you've upgraded to Win10

>>137242942
rolling

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https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/updates/580494266/1459451349

I'm awake.

Everyone pool your energy to save the thread. Raise your arms in the air.

>>137248032
>ripping off S;G disgusting overabundance of textures
shit taste t b h f a m

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I've been building my VN in TyranoBuilder but I'm considering switching to RenPy as Tyrano is still really limited... But I don't know, the projects look just good in it.

Is it possible to make a tamagotchi game with renpy?

>>137251761
Well Carlton, as someone who has never played a TyranoBuilder made game without experiencing at least 1 game breaking bug, I would recommend you switch. I tried to like it too, I really did. I even purchased it on Steam. Maybe come back to it after 2 years of updates. Ren'Py has been around for a loooooong time with constant updates and bug fixes.

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>>137251761
it doesn't look good, it looks extremely basic, like babby's first html page with "hello world"

>>137251761
It looks great! Don't listen to haters who can't afford TyranoBuilder. It's clearly superior to shitpy. I absolutely love it!
>>137251982
No, but you can try with TyranoBuilder.

>>137253012
Even as a joke that isn't funny.

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>even on the international funposting day /evn/ is dead

>>137255206
Maybe we should merge with /vn/ or something. It's almost like there's no point to these threads at this point. I like the lax atmosphere, but there just isn't enough interest it seems.

>>137255735
shut your white ass the fuck up Eunice

>>137255825
>this coming from a guy named WILLARD COMBS
That's the whitest name I've ever seen.

>>137255735
Fuck off from /vn/, no one wants your shitposting there. If you want, you can go back to /ksg/, where you belong.

>>137255929
Okay Gilmore girl, get your cracker ass back to Warner Channel.

>>137256030
sasuga Dickerson-senpai

>>137256113
Your name is pure feminism.

>>137256275
As is yours.

>>137256420

Everyone migrate.

>>137256476
No, fuck you.

It's not entertaining or funny at all, just give up on the meme.

>>137256615
No. These threads are nothing but people bumping day in and day out. There's zero reason for this thread to exist. I don't know the history of why /evn/ was created, but it's silly. There is no community for this thread. It's the same couple of people bumping again and again. Let's do the smart thing and move in with our /vn/ brethren. They'll accept us as brothers and sisters in arms.

>>137256769
/vn/ steals people's food and leaves dirty underwear lying around

>>137256769
You can go ahead and do it on your own to have your posts smothered by people talking about Japanese VNs, but I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who'd rather have a slow general than that.

There's literally nothing smart about expecting a general of fans to offer good insight on development.

>>137256769
We could just let it die for a few months again like we did a year or two ago.

>>137257049
They have people with opinions. That's absolutely necessary to getting proper feedback.

>>137245384
I'm making one.

>>137257342
>all feedback is valid, objective and relevant to one's market base
Don't leave your day job to open any sort of business, for your own sake.

>>137257524
You're missing the point. I'm saying getting opinions and feedback is more important than getting no opinions and feedback. There's an old business saying,

>All feedback is good feedback

Perhaps you should not open any sort of business. I have a feeling you'd fare badly.

>>137257748
Only we do get feedback here, from people who deal with the same issues as we do and often with the same people. It's not a fast general because there is obviously a smaller number of developers than there is of consumers, thank God.

If you want to shill there to people who will most likely never pay for a western title, be my guest. Just don't try to dilute us when this works for the developers here.

Also, I own my business. That saying just means you don't shut down a client to their face because you want repeat business, not that you take everyone's input as the same. It's the same as "the client is always right". They're not, more often than not they're oblivious to the business end of the equation; you just don't say it to their faces.

>>137258092
>Also, I own my business.
New "I SELL GAMES"?

>>137258240
I'm fine with that, Stacy, new memes are always a good thing.

>>137256769
The speed of the thread is fine, we're all supposed to be working on our projects anyway. If the threads became too lively, that wouldn't happen as often.

>>137259441
That's like saying, we should just delete the thread and not come back so we have more time to work on our projects.

>>137258092
>If you want to shill there to people who will most likely never pay for a western title, be my guest.

Because people who play JVNs are completely alien to the concept of what EVNs are, right? Their opinions only related to JVNs? You make it sound like their opinions aren't valid because they aren't EVN devs, which is absolutely terrible logic. Also, what kind of business do you own? Let me guess, ebay store or commission artist.

>>137260004
>Because people who play JVNs are completely alien to the concept of what EVNs are, right?
If you don't think that's the case for the majority of the weebs playing JVNs, you're completely unaware of why we felt we needed a separate thread in the first place.

>>137260004
>That's like saying, we should just delete the thread and not come back so we have more time to work on our projects.

It's like saying what I said, not something entirely different. You can go hang out in /vn/, nothing is stopping you.

>>137260143
>weebs
So basically someone wanted to be an elitist and create a cool kids club, even though there aren't enough people to support such a general? Alright, I'm starting to understand now.

>>137260450
I'll probably just go hang out on the lemmasoft forums. I made probably a third of all the posts in the last couple of threads, minus the arguments, so you'll get plenty of time to work on your game when I'm gone.

Looks like the Starlight Vega backerkit locked down at the end of March. My CC company posted the charge a week after the game was originally supposed to come out.

>>137260681
Good riddance, if you think that moving in with /vn/ is a good idea, I'm sure your posts were quite high quality!

>>137260681
We won't miss you at all!

>>137260790
>>137260852

Right now the people on VN seem much more tolerable than the lot of you. It's normally pretty nice here, but you people are pissy as fuck this morning. I guess that's what you get when you have a thread with so many females. Is this PMS or what?

>>137261059
Yes, it's just our periods, you're not an asshole at all. Now just go.

>>137261059
You asked a community to disband and join another community and expected nobody to oppose it?

>>137261348
It's the same community. /vn/ and /evn/ are the same kinds of people. We all enjoy visual novels. There's no need to be separate, and the only ones who are being hurt by it is /evn/ because of our lack of population. These threads are stagnant. There's no new growth, nothing interesting, no proper discussion. We need to liven it up, and the only way you can do that is with more people.

I've found there is someone almost always someone here to answer a development related question, for people like myself who hate forums, this is a nice place and I'd be sad to see it disintegrate into /vn/.

>>137261778
/evn/ will not survive in /vn/. Any questions will be buried and never seen, I don't have enough time to skim through threads, and I'm sure most of you don't either. It's either we exist as /evn/, or we disappear.

>>137261840
chill Nina-chan, we ain't dissolving into anything, it's just that one autist

>>137262107
>using a brain disorder to put someone down
Yeah, this place is full of such great people. It would be a shame if it vanished.

>>137262469
you're prohibited from posting on your second day on 4chan, friendo

The reason we've been slow lately is because Nano just passed, and the people who frequently post progress are busy with other things.

It's not rocket science.

>>137262660
This is the kind of person infesting these threads /evn/. Most of us have already gone over to /vn/. You should all come as well. These threads were doomed from the start.

I'll check vn out. The people there seem pretty nice, and it might be good to get some feedback on stuff I've been making.

>>137262964
I will save you the trouble

> evns suck

>>137263013
They seem really chill about it.

>>137262820
Doesn't /vn/ have a "only for the discussion of Japanese translated vns" policy?

>>137263485
Yes. The other anon is being retarded.

>>137263741
Woah there, wouldn't want to trigger xim with the R-word.

>>137263782
I thought it was xir.

>>137263741
>using retardation as an insult
Is this the kind of posters you want to associate yourself with? All these people do is bump posts, call each other names, and proclaim that they are the elites of the visual novel world, and that 'weebs' are below them. Yet they are all weeaboos! Have you seen what happens when someone tries to change up the meta? Someone posts a picture of a character with LIPS. A trait commonly used in western and french artwork, but rarely used in Japan. What happens? The thread goes nuts for an entire 2 days about how terrible looks are on characters. All I see is a bunch of 'weebs' in denial. This is unacceptable. Absolutely unacceptable. VN accepts your invitation and welcomes you with open arms. Even offers to change the stupid rule at the bottom that states VNs must be Japanese in nature. They reached out to you with kindness. Yet you bite their hand and call them names. This is the kind of people you want to associate with? I pity you.

quick, I need a name for a coffee shop

I miss moot :(

>>137264693
Caffe de Latte

>>137265060
thanks Doug

bampu fro Trumpu

>>137264693
Cafè Olé

Rising Angels Hope part 2 just came out. The final part comes out in 2 weeks, on April 15th. Will its sales likely improve then, or will it fade into obscurity?

>>137270169
So soon ?
It sounds worse than Day1 DLC.

So, did the Backstage Pass devs spend all their money on the animated intro? The backgrounds all look like what I'd expect from a free VN or something that costs $5, not $30. A fair few of the CGs are wonky and lazily done, with characters superimposed on a blurred out version of the current background. The music is repetitive and more often than not out of place.

The worst thing is that the story is so incredibly bland, though. At times I was wondering whether whoever wrote it is a robot or something. In the route I've seen so far there's the cringiest love confession I've ever seen in any medium, it's so awkward it reads like some kind of business proposal. The protagonist is all over the place with her behaviour, so much so she ends up having no personality at all; the bit about her having social anxiety seems to be put in just so the writer could tick off their Tumblr box in the feature list. It's just not used for the story, it's there to say "There, we have someone who's in some way mentally disabled! Except for more or less anywhere in the story after we introduce her problem, because that would not allow us to make her assertive and independent!"

What the fuck was the writer thinking??? What am I reading? Why is there so much grinding and so little story? Why did I trust the goddamn Steam reviews?

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>>137269651
sorry senpai, it's too late now

>>137270525
Nice progress

>>137270593
getting a compliment from someone named Ramsey sure feels nice

>>137270525
It's OK, I just wanted to write it down.

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>>137270904
(You)

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>>137271398
have a vintage meme, it's all dusty

>>137270309
The game charges for all 3 chapters upfront, which is why it's $15. I'm betting people are waiting for the conclusion to come out before buying it. They should have a sale for it when it's complete.

Looks like there's a new initiative on Steam for visual novels. Any indie developed visual novel that is successfully greenlit and put up for sale or early access gets $10,000 in cash and a free shout out from Valve. This could be huge.

>>137270309
It was 3 3 hr episodes and they are all included in the price. If anything, it is a free season pass instead of Day 1 DLC.

>>137273226
I'd trust you if you didn't have such a stupid name.

>>137273514
I know. I kind of got dicked over there to be honest.

If you people keep talking this much we'll have to start a new thread soon.

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>>137275039
>34 posters
we need to release a demo of a game based on a popular movie BUT with kawaii grills, and then keep delaying it but also keep posting cute grills from said game, then people will flock to us and keep us alive
pick a movie

>>137275575
ghostbusters :^)

>>137275575
I know how to get everyone. Even furries.
Make a Zootopia VN.

This is not even a joke.

Roll for your protagonist's new name.

Please be nice.

>>137276810
male for protag
female for LI (or vice versa)
let's do this

>>137276946
and if you roll two ms or fs in a row, you are now making yuri/BL

I'm so tired of this stupid ugly layout. CHINESE MOOT GO HOME

>>137278558
Shut up Lonnie. You know you love the blinding colour choices.

I always use dark layouts. My eyes are bleeding.

>>137278558
>not having tabs up 24/7
You deserved it.

>>137279067
Can someone translate this post to English?

>>137280674
Judith probably means that the shitty April Fool's layout and colour scheme don't apply if you still have the thread preloaded in a tab from before it took effect.

>>137280821
That's what I thought at first, Bertha. The problem is, I have had all my tabs open for many days, but when I refreshed the page to view new replies they defaulted to the new style. Perhaps there is some kind of crazy extension in use that automatically loads new posts. I wouldn't know, since I am new to this Internet thing.

Sincerely, (name as above)

>>137281183
Hey Trevor, you are right that there is an extension! :) It's called 4chan X and I have found it to be very useful in navigating this site. Of course, there's a native extension too, but it's not that good. :P

_______________________

“You've gotta dance like there's nobody watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like there's nobody listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." - William W. Purkey

is this the place MY HEARING AID WON'T WORK YOU OUGHT TO REPLACE IT MY GRAND DAUGHTER IS A LAWYER SO YOU BETTER WATCH OUT
love, grandmaster Flash

How do I submit a post to this bulletin board? I've read the official guide, and I've already asked Jeeves, but no luck.

>>137283784
Hi Alberta! I think there is a 50 karma threshold to post now :-( A bummer really but oh well! http://xxxvideos.com/tags/deep_throat_first_time_baby_goat_pov

shit i can't samefag and shill my game with this prank, what to do??

>>137284893
F O I L E D
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I'm the new admin at Lemmasoft!

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Remember earlier when I said everyone should go to /vn/? That was pretty funny, haha. I really made some people angry. They even called me a retard and an autist. Those were good times.

>>137285891
Are you sure you aren't actually a retard and an autist?

>>137287941
I'm fairly certain considering I'm a talented genius.

Someone tell me a thing to draw.

>>137285891
Being told you're stupid for saying something stupid isn't exactly a badge of honor.

>>137289745
Lolis.

>>137289954
Doing what?

>>137290082
hunting endangered species

rasto bampu before bed, don't die

>>137291045
I'm going to make a picture of it and put it into my game.

undie pls

Oh JP, Tao said that by the end of Toko, that it will probably the most heretical evn to date. I don't see how he can top We Know the Devil, but this could be interesting.

>>137297884
My bet is that he'll have Jesus in it and Jesus will turn out to be a futa.

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floating tea

>>137298426
Maybe Ginxhou turns out to be God.

>>137298426
And a polyamorous, bisexual lesbian with 9 wives.

>>137297884

But there's no JP here, Dianne.

>>137242041
I'm already working on one. You should join me and we can make a proper incest VN together.

>>137276384
Don't you mean only furries?

>>137305076
>696.7 million USD
Yeah, no. I mean everyone. Except those anti-furry trolls which hate on everything even remotely anthropomorphic. You aren't one of those morons, right?

>>137306018
You mean a normal person?

>>137306357
No, I mean one of those
>4chan makes fun of them so I better act like I hate them too
>gotta watch out for my social image
It's an anonymous image board Gabe, you can stop pretending to be cool. No one knows or cares who you are.

>>137306630
When you start getting defensive over wanting to shag rabbits and foxes it becomes increasingly more difficult to avoid making fun of it.
also
>act like I hate them too
>implying anyone acts like they hate furries
They just hate furries bruh.

>no one is talking about Love is Strange
but why

>>137307156
>assumptions everyone
>possibly projecting
>hating people for what they choose to fap to
Yes, some people exist who are as dumb as you.

>>137307510
>fangame
Also I don't even like the game it's based off of.

>>137307674
It got 11,000 reblogs on tumblr man, it's a big release in the EVN world.

>>137307607
Your inability to understand my posts and then proceeding to get upset about it is amusing.

>>137307784
How many of those people played it and didn't just click a like button because they saw something related to a game they liked?

>>137307510
yuri a shit

Furries are just whatever. I've been numb to people's weird-ass fetishes on the Internet for years.

It must be said, though, most furry works seem to be drawn in this one particular style that I find quite unattractive. Probably because it reminds me of kids' movies from the '90s.

>>137308061
No clue, but just having 11,000 people know about it puts the game streets ahead of the vast majority of stuff.

>>137308020
>more projection
Please tell me you aren't an adult. You argue like you're a little kid.

>>137308273
It's leeching off an established large fanbase, so that's not really an accomplishment.

>>137308398
I dunno, could YOU make a derivative work and have 11,000 pay attention to it (and thousands more see it)? Serious question. I don't think I could. It requires some degree of quality to get noticed. A ton of people would be interested in a Zootopia VN, as anon mentioned, but if I just shat out some awful garbage nobody would give it a second glance and it wouldn't get spread for shit. Even if they leeched somewhat off an existing fanbase, doing so successfully is still notable.

>>137308591
There are bad Naruto AMVs on youtube with hundreds of thousands of views.

>>137270169
Are there lesbians in it yet?

>>137308591
If you tried to make a zootopia VN and get money from it Disney would sue you into oblivion.

>>137307510
a better question is why the /u/ games thread isn't
although maybe the life-is-strange specific thread is, I don't know

>>137308863
Yeah so what? AMVs are a very different... format, everything from visual novels.

>>137309595
So you don't have to make something quality for a bunch of people to look at it. You just have to make something based off something popular, and LiS is quite popular on tumblr.

I'm not saying the game is bad because I haven't played it, but an original game getting 11000 views is completely different from a fan game based on something that's got a huge fanbase already doing so.

>>137308318
Your posts speak for themselves broski.
Honestly though, with a Zootopia VN where Disney is completely out of the picture you either cater to children, or you cater to furries. Seeing as how preteens aren't really in the market for visual novels, furries are your only real audience. Good luck trying to get anyone else.

>>137309957
I repeat
>I dunno, could YOU make a derivative work and have 11,000 pay attention to it (and thousands more see it)? Serious question. I don't think I could. It requires some degree of quality to get noticed. A ton of people would be interested in a Zootopia VN, as anon mentioned, but if I just shat out some awful garbage nobody would give it a second glance and it wouldn't get spread for shit. Even if they leeched somewhat off an existing fanbase, doing so successfully is still notable.
Though, change "derivative work" to "derivative VN" for max clarity.

>>137310083
Probably. Who wants to make Undertale High School Dating Simulator with me?

>>137310169
Of course, it always comes down to the "doing". It is a lot easier to say you could in arrogance than to actually get it done.

>>137310083
It's really not that hard honestly. I've been a part of dead projects that got hundreds of thousands of views simply because of what they were based on. There wasn't even that much to show.

>>137309359
What? You mean half the cast? No, no lesbians in it.

>>137309995
>Your posts speak for themselves broski.
Oh do tell me more. So interesting.

More people like appealing animal characters than you realize. Of course, I don't expect someone like you to understand that. After all, you're capable of hating people for what they fap to. You're not exactly enlightened or intelligent.

>>137310169
You're catering to furries if you go the undertale route. The vast majority of the characters are furry. By making a VN about undertale, you're catering to either furries, or autistic children.

>>137310687
The question is whether they're actually DOING anything yet.

>>137311064
There are tons of those,, though. It could be big.

The real problem is that you'll never finish it, anymore than the vague dreams of a homestuck dating sim got finished.

>>137311064
> furries

make it about Papyrus, Sans and Mettaton. Problem solved.

>>137311603
>leave out goat mom, goat kid, lizard and fish lesbian, buff goat dad, bunny walking bunny on a leash
don't do this to yourself anon
you can't just leave out all the best characters
i need this

>>137311270
It's almost like visual novels can be more than dating sims or something.

Faye crushed on Lenna but was shot down, Lenna broke up with Sol instead during the former terrible scene, and Kika is being a tsundere. Based on what's been leaked and how the story is shaping up, there's going to be romantic ends with each of the girls in the final part.

>>137310889
I still find it amusing that you haven't realized that I never once said I hated furries and that you somehow believe I care about what you fap to.
>Oh do tell me more. So interesting.
Do I really need to point out all the ad hominems?

I'm not saying people can't like anthropomorphic characters non-sexually. I'm saying that any Zootopia project that's completely unrelated to Disney is not going to have anywhere near the same appeal to those who aren't into furry, especially if it's a VN where sex is a pretty normal thing for the medium.

>>137312038
>especially if it's a VN where sex is a pretty normal thing for the medium.

Woah, woah what? You were thinking about a sex novel? No one said anything about sex.

Non-furries fap to furry porn all the time. Consider yourself educated.

>>137311863
>It's almost like visual novels can be more than dating sims or something.
No, it's almost like this game has a seriously bad reputation because of what happened in the past and I'm trying to get some conclusive proof of romantic encounters so that I can sell /u/ on it, which is basically refusing to buy the game until it is PROVED that your girlfriend isn't going to dump you for a man.

>>137312596
We've had several people on /evn/ who've played it say that it doesn't happen. There's CGs revealed showing it doesn't happen. The writer has made public statements several times that it doesn't happen.

/u/ just wants to hate on it. I say let them and let another yuri game go down the drain.

>>137312829
>There's CGs revealed showing it doesn't happen.
Technically, you can't have a CG proving that a thing doesn't happen, a CG could only prove what does happen.

>>137312596
I doubt you'll be able to convince them, try again when it's completely finished if you really want to.

>>137312265
I didn't say it had to be. I was trying to say that people would probably expect that to be the case. Sex is very common for VNs and without it I don't think even all that many furries would be interested as I'm sure that's what they would be hoping for. Besides, with the way you keep going on about fapping to furry, I assume you feel the same way.

So what makes someone a furry if merely being interested in the porn isn't enough of a qualifier?

>>137313131
First of all, are you seriously arguing that a Zootopia VN wouldn't sell like hotcakes? That's a really silly argument considering how popular it is, and how much fanfiction is being made. People would eat that shit up. Even if you assume that only furries buy or support it, which wouldn't be the case, you still have a huge audience.

What makes a furry. Furry conventions, fursonas, animal spirit bullshit, being part of a furry community, etc. Liking furry porn doesn't make you any more of a furry than liking rape novels makes you a rapist.

>>137313645
>Disney IP VN
>selling
That's a good one.
But look back at the whole reason this chain started. My point was that only furries would want it. And without porn that would just hurt it even more. Nobody would give a shit about a Zootopia VN made by some random blokes nobody knows about if they think all they have to do is coast off the success of the movie.

None of the furries I know care about and actively mock fursonas and all that shit, but they love the porn more than regular stuff and consider themselves furry as a result. You don't have to revolve a chunk of your life around something in order to have a label apply to you. Labels all have different criteria and don't all need to meet the same universal standards. As a similar example, it's like saying you're not a lolicon unless you go to conventions or dress up as a little girl.

>>137316017
Not really. That's not true at all. Lolicon is someone who likes young girls. Furry is not someone who likes furry porn. Furry is a lifestyle. You can enjoy furry porn and not be a furry. It's more like saying people who like lolicon are sexual predators, or people who like traps are gay in real life.

>Disney IP VN
Yeah, no shit, but that's not the topic of discussion.

>Only furries would want it
Yeah, like only furries watched Zootopia am I rite.

You're so wrong and misinformed it's very hard to discuss this issue with you.

Any good April Fools events from vn devs today?

>>137318325
The supersonico website had some loli troll art on it, but it's all gone now. Their twitter still has some of the art, and the twitter account poster was acting like a baby all day. That's the only thing I know of.

>>137318764
Can you please stop calling everything troll?

>>137318902
FYI I don't call everything troll. Only actual trolls, which the April fool's day joke actually was. Like you're triggered.

>>137319212
That was just a joke, not a trolling attempt.

>>137316985
>Furry is not someone who likes furry porn.
They're someone who is sexually attracted to anthropomorphic characters. I fail to see how that's different from any other sexual inclination regardless of how you choose to act on it. If you are sexually attracted to anthropomorphic characters you are a furry. It doesn't matter if you're also attracted to humans. That said, there is a good deal of leeway over just how furry you can be given the range and diversity.

>but that's not the topic of discussion
It is if you're trying to argue that it would sell well.
>are you seriously arguing that a Zootopia VN wouldn't sell like hotcakes?

>Yeah, like only furries watched Zootopia am I rite
Finding such characters cute or charming is very different from being sexually attracted to them. There's a huge gulf between a massive studio like Disney, who's aiming a child friendly movie at kids and parents, compared to a parody VN, where the medium is rife with sexual content and has a niche audience, created by random anons on the internet. Nobody is arguing it can't do well, but you're delusional if you think any non-furries would care about it just because of its name. We all know it would make bank if it was even remotely decent and had loads of porn. If it doesn't? Good luck.

>>137319345
It was troll art, like I said. It was made to be super over the top and get an emotional response from people. Trolling is exactly what it was, and trolling can be a joke.

Your momma is so fat, she doesn't even understand troll jokes.

>>137319728
Remember that Japan is the country where "little girl in a string bikini" is an accepted character design in otaku media. No one's going to go into moral outrage. The joke was that it's Sonico's 10 year anniversary since her debut, but they changed year to month.

>>137319728
The japs don't care about shit like that. It was a an over the top joke about her ten year anniversary.

>>137319696
>If you are sexually attracted to anthropomorphic characters you are a furry.
Again. This is blatantly false. Someone faps to MLP rule34, that does not make them a Brony. A brony is part of the MLP community, just like a Furry is part of the furry community. Fapping to something does not automatically associate you with a certain ideology or lifestyle.

>Finding such characters cute or charming is very different from being sexually attracted to them.

There are many more non-sexual VNs than sexual VNs fyi. I don't know why you're so stuck on this. Who wouldn't want to play a game with such charming characters? Exactly.

>if it was even remotely decent and had loads of porn. If it doesn't? Good luck.

That's literally every VN, ever. Only they have less of a chance of making it because they have nothing popular to associate with.

when your steam refund request reason is stated as

>Also don't share this with the devs, don't hurt their feelings man. Lets keep this low-key.

i'm now wondering if that was one of you

>>137320301
Nope, but that is kind of sad.

It's almost over.

>>137320025
Bronies are very different. Brony is a method of conduct. Someone who only faps to ponies is merely a furry.
My point is that being a furry doesn't automatically associate you with any ideology or lifestyle. It's a sexual attraction, pure and simple.

>There are many more non-sexual VNs than sexual VNs fyi
And how well do they do compared to the ones with sexual content? All the most successful EVNs that people actually know of and care about outside /evn/ are pornographic.

>Who wouldn't want to play a game with such charming characters?
You're making a lot of assumptions about the level of competence of whoever would make this. Even if the devs are competent, you're assuming they'd able to capture any of the charm and quality of Disney, especially without any of the animations that really bring the characters to life. Porn is the greatest, and only unique leverage you have as it'd be copying everything else. And you know it would be the easiest way to attract the most people.

>Only they have less of a chance of making it because they have nothing popular to associate with.
Not necessarily. It's much more important that people know and respect the actual developers. A new game from a well liked dev has a far better chance than a parody VN from some nobodies.

>>137323323
It is indeed.

>>137323323
Not for me.

>>137323323
It's only just begun

>>137327262
>>137327621
>>137327723
WAKE ME UP

>>137328653
INSIDE

>>137256769
You shitposting all day and now are try to merge two threads? Fishy.

>>137329308
*are

It was supposed to end.

Haha, good one /evn/. I get it. Your April Fools is showing no progress and dying.

What /evn/ would describe are the core mechanics of a vn?

>>137332629
Big anime tiddies

>>137332476
I did progress, but there's nothing interesting in saying I wrote 5k today.

>>137334132
Nobody else is saying anything. Now is your chance to shill all about your project!

>>137335254
I have very good reasons not to shill my game here. Maybe when I have something new to show I will. Until then, you all need to carry on!

>>137336628
You are welcome to share your game to /indie· >>136980320

You are all welcome to do it.

>>137332476
I'll bump now and then share progress when I finish getting these preliminary screenshots done.

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>wake up
>mock google torment is still going on

fuck you

>>137343618
OH GOD IT'S FINALLY OVER
THANK YOU JESUS

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Not like this, /evn/. Not after we've come so far.

Also posting progress.

>>137343618
Now neither of us will be virgin

My editor goes MIA on me. I can't contact her at all. It's been 3 months. I'm worried that she's dead

>>137346879
>I'm worried that she's dead
lol so naive

>>137346696
The girls are cute. But not as cute as neckbeard chan.

>>137346696
nice desu
I'd darken the textbox a tad though

>>137347119
That's what I'd like to think, anon. I can't stand betrayal

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oh hey look the board's layout doesn't make me vomit anymore.

In celebration have more mummy. I really can't wait for this CG to be finished

>>137346696
are your characters all stood on stools or are they floating in the air?

>>137350650
The latter, unfortunately. We don't have a BG artist of our own so we're at the mercy of DLSite's selection.

Do you think it's particularly that bad or immersion-breaking, or is it something you could generally overlook?

>>137352250
Well, just eyeballing it it looks like the BG is drawn in such a way that you'd have perspective issues regardless unless you were to draw the sprites specifically for the background... From the perspective of a player, it's probably something i'd not pay much attention to. I mean, I didn't really clock on to the perspective stuff in Umineko until I saw images on twitter pointing it out months later, so meh. Some people will notice it, some won't.

>>137352250
I think it's something that could be solved fairly easy, either by moving the sprites down, enlarging the BG (do they just come in a standard 1280 x 720 size on dlsite?) so it can be positioned more naturally, or a combination of the two.

And it depends entirely on how someone is viewing the background, whether or not they see it as a vague representation of where the characters are, or as a physical space behind them where their bodies have to match up. I've seen professional VNs use the former style, so it isn't too immersion breaking in the grand scheme of things.

>>137352568
>>137352692
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I think that we could ameliorate it a little by playing with the full resolution (which is a modest 1920x1080) or simply by repositioning when they're appearing on problematic backgrounds. I'll give that a shot when I'm back on my PC tonight.

yawn

Anybody working on their project alone?

>>137357106
I am now :(

>>137323625
>My point is that being a furry doesn't automatically associate you with any ideology or lifestyle. It's a sexual attraction, pure and simple

That point is wrong. For instance, I fap to furry on occasion, yet I am not a furry. I don't even associate with furries. All your doing is incorrectly labeling people who fap to a certain kind of porn. Furry IS a lifestyle, just like Brony is a lifestyle. Sexual attraction has little to do with it. You don't just fap to a picture of an anthro character and suddenly you're furry. It doesn't work like that, and that's the stupidest shit I've heard someone here say in a long time.

>All the most successful EVNs that people actually know of and care about outside /evn/ are pornographic.
Because the EVN scene is still young. So they have to stand out. How stupid are you not to realize this?

>You're making a lot of assumptions
This entire point is bullshit and not worth commenting on. Also, you're the KING of assumptions, so don't talk about assumptions like you yourself are not loaded with them.

>A new game from a well liked dev has a far better chance than a parody VN from some nobodies.
That's true, but it isn't black and white. Many different factors go into it. I think that's your problem, you see everything in black and white. It has to be this way, or that way, no in between. If they fap to a furry pic they are furry, there is no grey area. Etc. No wonder discussing with you is so hard. You're blissfully ignorant and you don't have a decent viewpoint on anything other than 'what you think you know' and 'what cannot be'.

>>137358312
post progress

>>137347423
>as neckbeard chan.
>no neckbeard
It doesn't work like that anon.

>>137358871
Holy shit, just let it go.

>>137359083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMeiDVv5t8I
No. Someone is making stupid assumptions. They must be stopped for the good of mankind.

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I just wanna close my eyes
I don't wanna use L2D
Because in Renpy
It really looks like shit...

>>137360481
What? You can use Live2D in Renpy?

>>137360481
Your post reads out like an attempt at a haiku

I didn't realise Ren'Py even had Live2d stuff. Is this official or someone's attempt at programming it in?

>>137360481
>Because in Renpy
>It really looks like shit...

I hope he's working on this shit. It has been a whole year since people started asking for it and still nothing.

>>137360632
>>137360682
It doesn't. I think he means movie sprites, which is not live2D at all. It's a bad system that shouldn't have been worked on at all. He should have just gone straight for live2D support instead of half assing it.

>>137360632
>>137360682
>>137360695
http://lemmasoft.renai.us/forums/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=36951

I really just want .mtn (or was it cmox) or whatever L2D has to be used directly in Ren'Py, not going about this method of:
>exporting to .gif
>converting from .gif to .webm via ffmpeg
>extracting masks

Not to mention the parameters/controls in movie() is kinda lacking.

No, that was a "I don't wanna close my eyes" parody.

>>137360921
live2d or riot

>>137361382
Rioting is for dindus bruh, don't do it.

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>>137359065
ok, I don't have much done though, have a bland mock-up (sprite needs some cleaning up around the edges, sorry)

>>137361531
renpytom is turning me blacker by the second

>>137361616
Hoodie that's not baggy is tasteless

>>137360481

I read this post set to Aerosmith.

>>137361948
She's poor. She lives and eats in a garbage dump and probably has lice and stomach worms. I bet she found that hoodie on the corpse of a bum child or something. How does that saying go? Bums can't be choosers?

>>137362152
the are kawaii animu lice so it's fine

Any good Tyranno games with Live2D?

>>137362152
Why does she look so clean then ?

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>>137361616
>that hair coming out from under the scarf

>>137362660
>Any Tyranno games with Live2D?
Yes
>Any good...
NO

>>137362894
I just wanna see how it behaves bruh.

>>137362975
I just wanna see how it...
NO, stop right there!
Really though, you can do Live2D, and quite a few games have Live2D in them. It looks really awesome, and it's the reason I bought TyranoBuilder.

For actually making a VN though, unless you just want the most basic of basic VN, you might want to wait a couple of years to try it out. When it has some bug fixes and quality of life changes done to it.

The thing that breaks my soul is how Japan has about 4 really good VN builders, and all of them have Live2D support. All the new ones that come out are created with Live2D support in mind. Yet, in the good old west, we only have Live2D support with the buggy TyranoBuilder. Our best VN option Ren'Py doesn't support it, and it's questionable whether it ever will or not. It's normal for Japan to be ahead of us in the VN area, since they love VNs and have much more experience and visibility there than we have in the west. But we have the Internet! We know what kinds of things are awesome, and what's going on even in Japan. There's no reason we should have to lag behind like this.

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Just dropping this because maybe somebody here needs a tool like Synfig Studio, "a free and open-source 2D animation software, designed as powerful industrial-strength solution for creating film-quality animation using a vector and bitmap artwork.".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synfig

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>>137365581
https://opentoonz.github.io/e/index.html

I'll drop this one then.

Oh, JP is being funny.

>>137362152
>Beggars can't be choosers.


>>137362748
It's fiction. It's why periods usually never comes up.

>>137367189
Posting without context makes me want to put a gypsy curse on you.

>>137367916
What did you just say to me?

>>137367189
He recommends playing Beach Bounce Remastered. But considering when he posted it, I'm not sure if it's a joke or not. It's an awfully elaborate fake positive review if so.

http://vnsnow.com/beach-bounce-remastered-review/

>>137368053
I went to look and apparently he reviewed Beach Bounce and gave it 8/10

Why do people here care so much about this JP guy? It seems like every general thread on 4chan has a couple of people they're obsessed with. Is JP the person this thread is obsessed with?

>>137369963
He reviews almost every VN out with widely varying degrees of objectivity, especially bad when there's anything H. It's amusing.

>>137361616
>hair tucked into scarf
CUTE

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>>137362975
Why don't you just play an actually good game with Live2D or e-mote?

>>137373207
Playing is one thing... developing, another.

>>137373207
Is the protag hanging upside down from the ceiling like a bat?

>>137361616
I always think the chin looks a bit off when there's a scarf covering part of it. Otherwise, very good mock-up.

>>137375097
He's a grown man looking down at a 4'10 girl.

>>137375097
That scene takes place on a ship that's capsizing

Anyone else find it really difficult to plan out a story as opposed to just writing?
I mean, beyond having a somewhat fleshed out idea of where you want things to go and how you want the characters to develop. If I try to strictly plan out the sequence of events I have a hard time deciding what should happen and when I do get to writing it never turns out the way I was planning.
I get a lot more mileage figuring out the basics and then just letting the characters loose and seeing how they behave.
What about you guys?

>>137358871
>>All the most successful EVNs that people actually know of and care about outside /evn/ are pornographic.
>Because the EVN scene is still young. So they have to stand out. How stupid are you not to realize this?

It's not actually a true statement anyway, so why bother responding to it?

The original Sakura Spirit was fanservicey but not pornographic, and several of the other biggest names are big because of feminist shit or gameplay, not porn.

>>137379662
>The original Sakura Spirit was fanservicey but not pornographic
It might be softcore porn but it's still porn even with no proper intercourse

>>137382924
It's not softcore porn.

>>137382924
I don't think you know what softcore porn is.
It was just ridiculously fanservicey.

>>137382924
Nigga please, Emanuelle is softcore.

>>137385357
Emanuelle VN when?

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Anon, you here ? How's your progress ? How's that milf doing ? Can we still sex her ?

>>137382268
What's this?

>>137392008
Fuck, the anon that said the tomato costume was at least memorable was right.

>>137392414
I was that Anon. I feel validated now, thank you.

>>137361616
Are you drawing the sprites yourself? She's really cute

>>137379429
I don't have a problem with it, I plan meticulously. I'll continuously rewrite my outline until it's perfect, and then begin to break up the outline into individual scenes. Usually when I get to writing, at the most more scenes will develop, but I'll always more or less follow my outlined path.

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>>137392887
There is only one true tomato.

Any progress goals for this weekend? You can respond if it's just a word count goal, we won't berate you for lack of content.

>>137392940
Thanks senpai. Yeah, I do the art (and now apparently the writing too). At least I can pillage newgrounds or something for music.

>>137396079
Just keep writing. The wordcount doesn't matter but I need to keep going.
I just need to keep reminding myself that when the draft is done I can finally go commission some art, to motivate myself.

>>137396079
If I get through the weekend without stabbing myself, that's an achievement.

>>137396079
I'd like to work a little more on the track I'm doing, but it's pretty hot in here and I feel a little sick.

>>137396914
>stabbing myself
... or anyone else

>>137399197
Please stab me with your sword.

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>>137400416
pshhh nothin personell kiddo

>>137400845
This will never stop being funny.