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>>137108000
1st for CHAOS

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Second for wood elves

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Third for Alith anar

In a hypothetical situation, how would a Empire army defend itself from an Ogre army? They're obviously going to be added at some point, but they sound completely OP

remove kebab

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tfw EB 2.0

>>137108326
Remove /tg/.

>>137108325
Cannons

>>137108325
gunpowder

>>137108240
That's not Alith Anar. Hair's too dark.

>>137108607
its a shadow warrior

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>>137108000
>tfw no one on /twg/ wants to talk about muh line battles
>everyone wants to talk about fantasy shit instead

>>137108495
>>137108451

Sounds glorious, I very much look forward to fielding armies of tanks and line infantry with cannons

>>137108727
Instant subject that you don't have to bother repairing buildings, dealing with public order, and doesn't contribute to your Imperium level if you don't want the diplomatic penalty

>>137109030
Historycucks get out

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>>137109030
And the game isnt even released yet

Where are thy allies historyfag?

>>137109030
This is the future you chose

>>137109101
>And the game isnt even released yet
Shill, please it's already looks like worse TW in history.

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>>137109101
In mine forums, Sharpening mine autism.

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>>137109096
orcs and space marines are boring as fuck, only /tg/ turbonerds like them

>>137108325
Cannons.
Knights
Magic
light cavalry with repeater handguns.

>>137109201
Oh no i agree, the copy pasted altdorf and heroes just kicking aimlessly around each other leads crdence to it being a bad game.

But this general is obviously going to be warhammer general when it drops. Youre kidding yourself if you think its not going to dominate the thread for at least a week no matter how bad it is

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>tfw feel so out of place when I don't know shit about Warhammer.

Optimum est pati quod emendare non possis.

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>>137109375
Well anon if you want to know anything im a certified neckbeard and can answer damn near any question you might have.

Or you could check 1d4chan

>>137109356
>But this general is obviously going to be warhammer general when it drops.
Of course, it will be invasion of shills and /tg/.

>>137109375
start learning senpai. Pick the faction you think is coolest and read about them.

guys i just bought the humble bundle with Shogun2 FotS and attila. is it possible to pirate the dlc/expansions or do i need to buy them aswell?

>>137109583

for shogun 2, FoTS is all you need, it's the best

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>>137109516
What does that matter?

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>>137109540
Well if it's fantasy is there going to be a necromancer faction or anything

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>>137109464

>>137109721
Vampire counts are the necromancy faction

>>137109721
Literally vampire counts

>>137109721
Two undead factions: Vampire Counts and Tomb Kings. Necromancers are only in the former.

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>>137109721
Wow have you not even looked at the trailers or anything?

The vampire counts are the go-to necromancers of the setting(Tomb cucks get out) Vampirism itself isnt actually a disease so much as it is a necromantic ritual.

>>137109824
the only game that treats vampirism as a disease is TES of all things.

>>137109921
A disease, a curse, whatever. The point is vampirism was created by necromancers.

The only traditional lich in the setting is nagash and hes fairly unique obviously.

>>137109968
I meant to say as their form of immortality thats why i mentioned nagash and lichdom

>>137109968
yeah. I agree. Like turning a kingdom undead tier.

Also fuck Kemmler. I just finished reading the Gotrek and Felix novels and I really want to beat his brains in

What file do i have to modify to make the blood permanent in Rome 2

>>137110097
Kemmlers fuckery is surpassed only by mannfred.

Vlad deserved better

why isnt there an option in total war to flag some factions as undesirable shits so that they cant adress you at all, I think civilization3 had an option like that

its just annoying since turns take long enough for me to alt-tab out, but when I switch back to the game I see that there is close to no progress because some faggot wants a hand out or something

>>137110407
you have to go the total war way, remove them from the map

>>137110519
thats actually one of the advantages of playing as the WRE, there are a lot less factions since you wipe out a lot of barbars in the first few turns AND you dont collapse into a million successor states

>>137109721
I can also answer questions that you might have.

What's your favorite faction in any previous total wars. Or to put it another way what sort of play style do you like.

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>>137108326
DEUS VULT MY CHRISTIAN BROTHER IN ARMS!

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Chaos Dwarves still not announced

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>>137109265
Good thing that Space Marines aren't in WHFB and Orcs are only for slaughtering!

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>>137111074
>RRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>137111074
Are we gonna see these kinds of posts for every faction not announced?

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>>137111074

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>>137111349
>>137111349
>Skaven still not announced

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

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Holy shit Spartans are tough

so, Attila made spaghetti lines ineffective against cavalry but they are still the superior way of fighting non-shock infantry, I was thinking of ways CA could change that, and couldnt come up with anything other than just giving morale penalties to units that are too stretched out, or maybe giving attack and defence bonuses to deeper formations, what can be done about this?

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>>137112017

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>>137112692
A massive moral hit if the formation is broken causing units to route faster?

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>Lizardmen still not announced

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>pure goblin faction still not announced

>>137113272
I wouldn't hold my breath for that one

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>>137112017
>>137112857

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>>137113272
Yes please!

>>137112546
THIS IS SPARTA
after all

>>137109375
Watch Arch Warhammer on youtube. That's how I learned.

Skaven when?
http://youtu.be/lOzaPhk1ffY

>>137114196
>Skaven when?

Never hopefully, furfags are the worse

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>>137108000
Righto lads, I've been putting of a Med2 campaign for a while and need your help.

Which campaign(vanilla or kingdoms)?
Which Nation?
Which extra meme objective?
Dubs decide.

warhammer was a mistake

>>137114454
Kingdoms Americas as New Spain

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>>137114196
>Arch Warhammer

>>137114196
>>137114787
What's with the Arch hating? He's a little nit-picky but not outright bad like legendoftotalwar.

>>137114787
Whats wrong with him?

>>137115045
>bad like legendoftotalwar
You misspelled PrinceofMacedon my friend

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>>137115189
>legendoftotalwar
>Shits on Attila ever time a small bug appear in that game
>Medieval 2 siege bugs
>"The unit just don't want to move today XD"

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>>137115045
Agreed, His Lore videos are good, thought his Vocab could use some freshening. I used to play Elite: Dangerous and have his lore vids playing on my other monitor. Very well made aside from point above.
However, his videos on TW:W are, to say the least, whiny. It's like a weak as version of the Nostalgia Critic bitching about every single little thing. I find Oakley and MilkandcookiesTW to be entertaining. Other than that, Arch is good for lore, but bad for "news".

P.S. Chaos is going to be my first play through. Kinda mad about them being pre order DLC but oh well.

>>137115363
who are you quoting

>>137115363
yeah, he is incredibly biased, he actually said that rome2 is better than attila, more than that, he calls himself "legend of total war" yet he doesnt understand even the basic campaign mechanics like loyalty in attila

>>137115189
>>137115045
He has some good videos but he also spreads a lot of misinformation and is often outright wrong about lore stuff. I almost want Skaven not to be playable ever just to hear him get buttmad, that furry fuck.

>>137115456
In his first Attila video he says that its better than Rome2

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>>137115440
sho sho

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>>137115523
Cant say ive watched too many of his videos but he didnt fuck up in the few that i watched. What lore did he ruin?

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>>137115045
Arch is pretty based and better qualified to talk about lore than any faggots on here.

>>137115829
t. arch

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>>137115659
He's on several occasions said that VC doesn't have any actual necromancer magic. Even though it's been clearly shown in several videos, both from CA and otherwise.

He said they're weak as shit because things like Cain Wraiths die in a second to melee (even though they died to a WH accusing them, he just didn't pay any attention to what was happening as usual).

He wants Karak sieges to look like pic related which would make it impossible to balance from a gameplay PoW. On top of that he thinks he's some undisputable source of Warhammer lore even though he only started playing in the 6th edition.

TLDR take what he says with a grain of salt and don't trust his "reaction" videos to TW:WH news. He gets most of his shit wrong. He also has a rabid fanbase of drooling idiots such as
>>137115829

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>>137111074
Andy Hall said that they're basing the game on lore previous to 8th if it doesn't conflict that.

c-chaos dwarves don't conflict, so they must be in.

ALSO THEY'RE ONE OF THE 16 AND OGRES CAN'T BE ADDED WITHOUT THEM REEEEEEE

>>137115570
weird, I was watching his wre video and he said he ranks attila the lowest out of tw games, after empire

>>137115829
hi arch

>if someone is really cynical that must mean they know what they're talking about!
t. Arch fanbase

Arch is also a /pol/tard.

Let's not forget that.

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>>137115864
We dont actually know if the heal that the VC's heal ressurects dead models in a unit or not. I certainly didnt notice it because the people playing the game are fucking garbage. That was his complaint because thats how it works on the tabletop and kinda how the faction functions as a whole. Actually in the video he brought up a good point that "expendable" doesnt really work in the total war format because of the limited amounts that you can bring. Plus you can only summon zombies which are kinda shitty since you cant raise them beyond their maximum size like you can in the tabletop

This is gameplay not lore.

What makes you think that he thinks that? Does he gloat on a twitter or something? Hes been correct in the videos ive watched.

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>>137115864
he said it was weird to see a VC army with one caster and that the shared pool of magic meant VC couldn't do half the resurrection they do in tabletop (where you have maybe 100 models on the field not thousands). Cairn wraiths are weak if unsupported because they still crumble if they are surrounded so their only benefit is they don't die to ranged attacks at all. You can't send them up a wall or through the enemies lines. From a lore standpoint the karaks are virtually impregnable especially by a force only a few thousand strong. Obviously they have to balance it but why not have two stage sieges where you siege the surface and underground? Mountainside siges would be badass.

>>137116073
Based,may actually watch some of his shit

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>>137114787
yes? i learned a lot from his lore videos. from having zero experience with Warhammer to having a geneeral knowledge of the lore and a pretty good knowledge of the different factions

>>137115523
>and is often outright wrong about lore stuff
this is why I watch different peoples lore vidoes. I notice that many have very different views on the lore

>>137109190
Rollerino

>>137116235
So raising a whole unit of zombies is not necromancy?

>>137116390
Rerollerino

>>137115972
I watched a few of those. that's just cuz he was constantly frustrated by the suffering that is WRE Legendary. I mean in several videos he spent 5minutes complaining about comments on the previous video

>>137116316
Also a self-confessed overweight virgin who never leaves his house.

He seems pretty proud of the fact that he's a massive degenerate.

>>137116504
>massive degenerate
But /pol/ hates degenerates

>>137116608
roll

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>best elves still not announced

>>137116053
it seems to be more of a growing general attitude though, where people only seem to 'trust' people who are overly negative. I suppose it began as something of a backlash to more mainstream 'critics' who rarely highlighted issues with games - see the Rome 2 reviews.

But what began as a search for a more balanced opinion, has now swung wildly the other way, as people realized that controversy, that 'rage' and 'epic fail' videos get more hits. I came across another channel a few weeks ago with a lot of warhammer related content, and nearly every video had thumbnails with 'epic fail' and 'boycott CA' stuff plastered across them. It was only a small channel, but it was clear they were playing to the growing 'downvote everything' , 'everything sucks crowd' regardless of if they believed it.

Hell, when THFE, who seems to try to take a more balanced stance, did a video on the new regional occupation blog and didn't just shit all over it, but instead said he thought it might be quite interesting, people started accusing him of being a CA shill.

I'll never understand this growing trend where it seems like people want games to fail or get negative reviews, and only 'trust' that kind of content. It's weird seeing people take great delight in a game get slammed in reviews and then being all smug about it on forums and stuff like they've 'won' something. I don't get it. Why wouldn't you want every game you play to turn out great?

>>137115864
>He's on several occasions said that VC doesn't have any actual necromancer magic
he said he didn't see any resurection magics and was worried about it.

>He said they're weak as shit because things like Cain Wraiths die in a second to melee (even though they died to a WH accusing them
I missed that aswell, simple mistake although since he's making videos maybe he should've picked up on it

>He wants Karak sieges to look like pic related
No, he doesn't want them to look like Altdorf, or that's unfair he doesn't wat them to look like your sieging a fair ground with a Trump wall covering it

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>Obviously they have to balance it but why not have two stage sieges where you siege the surface and underground?

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>>137116465
No shit, anon. Obviously it is.

And obviously his actual complaint was the supposed inability the ressurect the lost models in your units.

I mean i get it you dont like him but really.

>>137116645
That's the great irony of /pol/, they spend all their time decrying the horrors of degeneracy and how the world is falling into a pit of liberal collapse, but in reality people are just getting on with their lives and making the best with what they've got.

Meanwhile, people on /pol/ spend their time on an anime image forum shitposting about how miserable and pathetic they are. I used to be in that hole too and I'm much happier now that i've gotten out of it.

/pol/ are the true degenerates, they just cope with it by pretending everything else is too.

>>137116725
>It's weird seeing people take great delight in a game get slammed in reviews and then being all smug about it on forums and stuff like they've 'won' something. I don't get it. Why wouldn't you want every game you play to turn out great?
It's the Tortanic thing, /ve/ got so smug about it and now a lot of people want their next fix.
Personally I agree with you though, you should always hope for the game to be good

>>137116235
You can raise Skeleton warriors too if you overcharge the spell.

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>>137116703
>Best elves
>Implying

>>137116073
>Arch is also a /pol/tard
he dislikes feminism and his neigbouring countrys immigration policies. I don't blame him since I would know how bad it is

t.Swede

>>137116504
>Also a self-confessed overweight virgin
think he mentioned he's had several gf's, but now I feel pathetic, why am I defending some cynical Norwegian online?

>>137116725
well your post is definetely true in case of 4chin, people there want everything to be the next tortanic and hugely overstate and shitpost about every new release. Not sure where the whole cynicism and cool thing started in the mainstream, I bet its some tv show or something

>>137116645
They hate blacks,gays, jews, women and muslims (which is ironic since the koran also hates gays, jews woman and to lesser extent blacks) but they are degenerates. If you are older then 14 and still a virgin, you are a degenerate.

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>>137116898
Thats nice i guess. Skeletons arent anything to rock a half chub over though. Then again summoning was always pretty poor.

I really do hope nehek revives the lost models in a unit

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>>137112017
>Literally dead faction
Lel

>>137115045

>These look nothing like karaks, only I know what karaks should look like.

>Why don't the vampire counts have spells that replenish units? Instead they only heal the existing units which is completely different.

>Vampire Counts play nothing like they do in tabletop because all the casters share the same mana pool (EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE SAME IN TABLETOP)

>>137117357
Healing is not the same as ressurecting. How can you even argue this

Didnt the dev team say that the windows of magic have like, an on the map effect? You dont start with full WoM every battle you enter? I think thats what he was talking about. If you use your magic in one fight with mannfred you wont have it for another with kemmler

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>>137117357
>These look nothing like karaks, only I know what karaks should look like

Arch just uses the lore as a yardstick and dosn't really give any consideration for how it might be adapted into a total war game. Its prefectly reasonable for him to say that Karaks hsould have surface fortifications because they do and most races would besiege them from the surface.

>Why don't the vampire counts have spells that replenish units?

As for VC again he's literally only taking the lore in which the spells raise dead (in fact all lore of vampires augments have a chance to add more units) and asking why don't more zombies/skeletons/vargheists get up and fight instead of the same number getting increased health?

>Vampire Counts play nothing like they do in tabletop

Sure all casters use the same mana pool in tabletop but they have a chance to generate extra dice for each level they have and an average roll of 6 dice allows you to cast two-three spells all of which have a chance to resurrect more units.

>>137116608
Does chaos have the strongest heros?
they look like massive cocks

>>137117872
As far as lore is concerned

Gotrek > grimgor = Archaeon

So how often do you think a general would make a pre-battle speech for his soldiers?

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>>137117872
>>137117947
Based Lizardmen have the strongest

>>137117792
>If you use your magic in one fight with mannfred you wont have it for another with kemmler

Nope he was literally complaining the casters in the same battle didn't have separate mana pools as retarded as that is.

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>>137118087
Wasnt he just complaining that you cant have multiple casters in the battle(Which you obvious can, vampire/necromancer heroes. Pretty sure mannfred and kremmler can fight the same fight) though?

It would make sense if the WoM got bigger the more casters you had to represent channeling. But we just dont know enough yet

>>137118169
>>137108240
what game?

>>137118295
Age of reckoning, MMO

The fanmade private serve is return of reckoning

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>>137117872
>massive cocks

starting to get the idea.

>>137118056
In real life?

It's every battle in all of these games.

>>137117818
>they have a chance to generate extra dice for each level

Well mannfred has an ability allowing him to generates more mana. And either way you gotta admit that makes more sense than giving each caster their own mana pool.

>>137118183
>Wasnt he just complaining that you cant have multiple casters in the battle

No, he was complaining there would be no reason to becuase they share the same mana.

>It would make sense if the WoM got bigger the more casters you had to represent channeling

Mannfred has an ability which increases mana regen. So assuming other casters have similar abilities or passives it's simulate channeling fine.

>>137118437
I agree there should be one pool with a recharge rate dependent on the winds in the area but there'd be no reason to have more than one caster if a full pool is emptied by one caster other than not having a recharge rate on a particular spell. Perhaps more casters will improve the recharge rate in which case thats fine.

>>137117792
>Healing is not the same as resurrecting>>137118183
>Pretty sure mannfred and kremmler can fight the same fight
.

Gameplay wise it's the same, you're healing your units so they can keep fighting and grind down the enemy.

>>137118535
Nah thats probably exclusive to mannfred since he generates additional power die when he murders things

>>137118385
>ARGH HOUAH ZOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUjtF0YYZ1c

>>137118626
>Nah thats probably exclusive to mannfred since he generates additional power die when he murders things

Well we haven't seen the full skill trees for the other casters yet, but I'd bet my left testicle that most if not all of them have a passive or active ability generating more mana.

>>137116869
Oh god the total meme-fest pre-launch was amazing. All those amazing videos etc.
DING DONG BANRU

>>137118614
>Gameplay wise it's the same, you're healing your units so they can keep fighting and grind down the enemy.
Not him but I agree oveall with you here. Although I am sad that you can't increase the unit size beyond normal like in tabletop by resurecting

>>137118614
I had written two paragraphs before i realized its pointless. healing is not the same as reviving its as simple as that and its strictly inferior. Especially with the crumble mechanic taking models away.

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>>137118840
>DING DONG BANRU

>>137118407
Yeah in real life

>>137118961
>Especially with the crumble mechanic taking models away.

You mean like in the tabletop?

>>137109516
>>137109516
/twg/
/TwG/= /tg/ good post,nerd-autismus
/tvVG/= /VG/ meh post,shill, hist-autismus
/tVvg/= /V/ shitpost, turbo-autismus

>>137119041
Its also present in the game.

besides in the tabletop you can resurrect models that crumble like a proper necromancer.

>>137111349
don´t jinx it you idiot

>>137119009
depends on the period though there's plenty of accounts of speeches even given to professional armies and they were pretty common in the Napoleonic era when the general would give a declaration of intent.

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>Beastmen still not announced

>>137111074
WTF! Chaos Dwarves sound OP as fuck. Basically Dwarves without any restrictions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUE7Md6yZvY

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"hey Franz, Bretonnia says they have the best knights!"

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>>137119241
>Chaos Dwarves sound OP as fuck
That's because they are

>>137119218
post best real life pre battle speech

>>137119236
do bestmen really rape humies with their monste cocks when they take a town?

>>137119241
Stop shill yourself arch

>>137119401
I can't I need that youtube money

>>137119324
I wonder if CA will put them in the game

>>137119236
>dudes with goat heads


Who are the scariest looking factions in WH?

>>137119398
They do though. Elf milk is a hell of a drug

>>137119398
Yes, but they mostly owe their existence to peasant villages tossing the mutant babbies into any nearby forest.

>>137119398
Afaik yes, they take human women with them and rape them until they give birth and then eat 'em. Beastmen are really fucking hardcore

>>137119241
>Basically Dwarves without any restrictions.

90% of their armies are crappy greenskin slaves

>>137119398
Yes
They also get drunk and shit everywhere. This is all canon

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>>137119241

>WTF!
>linking to arch

>>137119503
>90% of their armies are crappy greenskin slaves
but Magic, Awesome Dorf infantry, Bull centaurs, Dorf superior gunpowder and arty weapons plus light cav from greenskins and meat shield infantry. they seem much better than original Dwarves

>>137119495
>they take human women with them and rape them until they give birth and then eat 'em
HOLY SHIT! that is fucked up

>>137119398
Pericles gives an account of a speech made in the peloponnesian wars to Athens: "This empire has been acquired by men who knew their duty and had the courage to do it," he averred. "Make them your examples and… do not weigh too nicely the perils of war."

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>>137119512
>They also get drunk and shit everywhere. This is all canon

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>>137108240

Edgy elves coming through.

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Winter clothing for soldiers in TW games fucking when?

STOP RUINING MY IMMERSION CA FUCKING SHITS!

>>137119625
that's a good one desu

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>>137119461
>>137119612
Beastmen are probably the worst thing to deal with in the Empire. Chaos and Skaven attacks are few and far between, but villages are walled and nearly every forest is a no go zone because of these crazy mutant fucks.

>>137117872
archaon is one of the most powerful dudes in the world and the rest of them are somewhere up there in the lists

>>137119970
>fly and arachnid beastmen
t-that's alright I didn't want to sleep anyway

btw Empire should burn the forrests down and tell retard peasants to dump mutant babies off a cliff instead of in the forrest

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Do I help Stilicho vandalise these guys?

>>137120179
yes Roma invicta!

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>>137120227
Ok, half-bro. But you can do all the work.

So what happens in the Chaos realms or Warp or whatever it's called? Is it constant fuckhuge wars between demons or is it relatively peaceful with the gods basically functioning like the olympian gods?

So I conquered the Boii empire in Rome 2.

Fuckers start rebelling. No big deal, right?
Wrong.

They have better equipped units than I am even capable of recruiting. How is that possible?

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>>137120121
They've tried. Trouble is the forests in the Empire a fucking huge as is the beastmen population, as well as those of Greenskins and wood elves. It'd be a huge and costly military operation, heck even some of the trees in the Empire are mutated to the point of being dangerous.

>>137120369
war, much war

>>137120369
Its basically hell. Not quite but close enough.

Daemons skirmish a lot, theres multiple worlds. Multiple domains of the chaos gods, planes for daemon princes, etc.

I dont think fantasy has gone into it but 40k certainly has.

There was n amusing story about an ork warband and its jounryes through the warp and it culminated in the warboss castrating a daemon prince

>>137120452
the Warhammer world is a horrible place to live in. Sylvania literally seems like the best place, at least there you don't get taxed and are protected by superpowered vamps

>>137120480
>>137120503
can't believe chaos warriors dream of entering that shithole

>>137119843
afaik the roman generals have coats in attila during winter, unless I completely imagined it, playing slavs at the moment so cant test

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>There are people IN THIS VERY THREAD, who watch and stand up to defend Arch "idontknowwhatthefuckimtalkingabout" Warhammer
keeps me up at nights, fucking spooky

>>137120840

>/twg/ defending Arch "EVERYTHING SUCKS. EVERYTHING IS BROKEN. THIS IS TERRIBLE" Warhammer

Since when?

is there any mod for attila that makes the unit cards actually list all the hidden stats?

>>137120785
Chaos warriors dream of becoming daemon princes

Which means they get their own personal nirvana in that shithole where they are lord and master and can no longer die, anytime their corpreal form is vanquished they return to that section of the warp and recover.

Little do they know however that once they leave their safespace the other demons bully them eternally for being born a mortal and theyll never have any friends.

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>>137120915
by flipping through posts in this thread you can find some

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>>137120978
>Little do they know however that once they leave their safespace the other demons bully them eternally for being born a mortal and theyll never have any friends.
kek
>tfw you have had enough of Chad Franz bossing you around
>decide to head north
>fight through all kinds of fucked up barbarians, monsters, demons and chaos fuckers
>senpai Khorne finaly notices me
>sends me back dow south to spread his weird ass religion
>kill normies all day erry day whilst mutations rek my body
>dick becomes an ear
>oh well fucking stacies never let me use it anyway
>finally be rewarded by senpai and can hang out at his place
>Demon Chads bully me all the time
>can't even an hero cuz immortal
>fuck

>>137120957
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?684698-Don-t-lie-to-me-game-Relevant-unit-attribute-displays

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>>137121403
>Chad Franz
Citizen, please make yourself comfortable on this beautifully crafted wooden platform, there's even a pole sticking out to so you can easily rest supported by smooth ropes.
If you're cold I can even make a small fire for you!

>>137121659
cheers senpai, I love the different weapons being hugely different in stats thing, but the fact that it is not written anywhere is just dumb as fuck

>>137122045
to add to this, does anyone know if the
>bonus vs infantry/cav
thing is bonus damage, or bonus attack?

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>>137119714


hopefully best elves announcement soon, fellow edgelord

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>be english peasant 8th century
>farm your dirt like usual
>see these sails on the horizon

wat do?

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>>137122515
Considering malekith was apparent supposed to be the phoenix king all along they apparently are the best elves. Nevermind all that slaaneshi worship, dark magic and shit.

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>>137114454
Sigh of the Empire as Great Britain

>>137122682


he was according to that age of sigmar bs? cause why would he get his shit burnt by that holy fire thing then?

>Historian now believe that Saladin sent his physicians to Richard because he needed RIchard to stay alive so that Saladin could retain order in his ranks by having an enemy to fight

>>137122679
Bend over

>>137123427
apparently if he just stayed in the fire a little long he wouldve made it and all prior phoenix kings were warding the chosen king so they could walk through the fire. He could walk through the fire the second time just fine because apparently that whole rebellion thing was just a trial by fire to prove he had the gumption or something

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Sometimes I wish the tech in fantasy was just a bit higher. I'd love to mow down chaos shits with imperial gatling guns. Cannons will have to do for now.

>>137123635
Hellfire volley guns are pretty close to gatling guns desu

>>137123635
>not strapping 6 pistrols to your body to replicate

Also as the other anon said, their artillery does come in rapid fire format

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>>137123635

Skaven have literal Gattling Guns

>>137123875
Ratling* guns

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>>137123635
Master engineers have reapeter pistols which are gatling guns in portable format

>>137123875
>Rat dudes with miniguns

Best faction

>>137123617
No no, it was all a clever plan by Asuryan to get Malekith to finally move out of his mom's house and bedroom

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>>137123962
>play vampire counts on the tabletop
>Anytime i reveal my army i notice the skaven players posture slacken
>the light in his eyes dims as he realizes he has no chance of winning
>I have to hide my boner beneath the table for the rest of the game
>i make him wear a skirt later when we fuck

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Do Warhammer zombies infect living people and animals or are they just raised corpses?

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>>137123947

It amazes me we don't get more cool gunpowder weapons that were actually real like pic.

>>137124082
Theyre just raised corpses. Flesh golems.

>>137124082

They are corpses who have their brains rewired with magic and implanted with orders. Which is why they use less magic and are crappier than skeletons, which are 100% magic powered puppets

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>>137124081
>he has a screaming bell
>rolls a 18

Fuck you and your cunt army

>>137124082
Depends? Not entirely sure but I think Nurgle's plague zombies can do the infecting while normal necromancy zombies are just puppets
I might be confusing 40k and FB plague zombies though

>>137124082
Depends on the zombie, if its a corpse corrupted by nurgle its going to be infectious to living people. If its a zombie raised by necromancy its just a shambling undead human that won't do anything beyond what their bodies are capable of, I.E not much.

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>>137120785
>Sylvania literally seems like the best place, at least there you don't get taxed and are protected by superpowered vamps

Shit I never thought about that, you live in your peaceful farm or city meanwhile your lord fight his battles with an horde of spooky fuckers, you just have to bang your wife, eat and sleep.

Why vampire counts are bad again?

some nice slaneesh art

>>137124415
>Why vampire counts are bad again?

Because when they run out of spooky fuckers or get hungry them to you.

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>>137124269
Sorry what was that? I was just moving my terrorgheists in.

Whats your leadership by the way? Dont forget aura of dark majesty.

>>137124482
>>137124415
Underneath vlad sylvania prospered liek it never has before. Its basically like having hitler as your leader. You know hes a bad guy but hes good to his people.

Then mannfred had to go cock up literally everything. EVERYTHING.

>>137124593
>sylvania prospered liek it never has before

Because it was the biggest shit-hole in the empire, and still was under vlad.

>>137124593
>hitler
>good to his people

>>137124676
Hitler did amazing things for germany.

Just not the jews.

>>137124676
Everything he did was to bring power to the people in a Germany controlled by rich jews

>>137124719

Yeah, like sending millions to their deaths in war LOL

>>137124719
>Hitler did amazing things for germany.

If you ignore everything that happened after he lost

>>137124676
>>137124891
Are you 12 or just really ignorant about WW2?

>>137124719
>be jew, gay, freemason, witness, minority, disabled, mentally ill, political opponent, opposing intellectual or other non-approved group
>get gassed

>be man
>be drafted and killed by soviets

>be woman
>get raped by soviets

>more likely to get killed by my own government than allied bombing

>unironically imblying authoritarianism isn't absolutely shit-tier
>inb4 "muh economy"

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>>137124891
This is "ironic" shitposting right? Anytime hitler is brought up people do actually react like that when they learn he wasnt literally satan but a real human bean just like the rest of us.

>>137124938
What country didnt have bad things happen to it after losing a world fucking war. Id say it was a net gain.

>>137124947
>Hitler was a nice guy dudes!!!11!
>His own people weren't deathly afraid of him or anything !!1!!1

Stop it right now edgelord or I'll call the internetpolice

>>137125115

Oh yeah real human beans are responsible for the deaths of millions

>>137125115
>What country didnt have bad things happen to it after losing a world fucking war.

He was the one who started and led his country into that fucking world war.

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>>137125112
Holy shit, hitler was a bad person? No way anon i had no idea.

>>137125161
Yeah, human beans are scary like that. He believed he was the good side too.

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best faction when

ARRIBA ESPAÑA

>>137124719
>>137124947
“There is a man alone, without family, without children, without God....He builds legions but he doesn’t build a nation. A nation is created by families, a religion, tradition: it is made up out of the hearts of mothers, the wisdom of fathers, the joy and the exuberance of children. [Of Germany under Hitler he says]....an all-swallowing State, disdainful of human dignities and the ancient structure of our race, sets itself up in place of everything else. And the man who, alone, incorporates in himself this whole State, has neither a God to honour nor a dynasty to conserve, nor a past to consult....
For a few months I was inclined to believe in National Socialism. I thought of it as a necessary fever. And I was gratified to see that there were, associated with it for a time, some of the wisest and most outstanding Germans. But these, one by one, he has got rid of or even killed....He has left nothing but a bunch of shirted gangsters....
This man could bring home victories to our people each year without bringing them...glory....But of our Germany, which was a nation of poets and musicians and artists and soldiers, he has made a nation of hysterics and hermits, engulfed in a mob and led by a thousand liars or fanatics....”

-Kaiser Wilhem 11

>>137125261

I wonder if they are as cucked as the real Spain of the period

>>137125261
>Rocroi

>>137125291
god damnit

Kaiser Wilhelm II***

>>137125313
but the period warhammer is roughly analogous to was the period of Spanish ascendancy

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>>137125291

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>Kislev

>>137125394

Spanish armada was 1588, isn't late renaissance just after that?

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>>137125526
Kislev is so overrated.

Russians/polacks go home

>>137125542
warhammer is probably closer to the early and mid 16th century, rather than the late 16th century.

>see this thread
>everyone just talking about warhammer
>do a 360 and walk away

Are there execution animations?
They havent shown any yet

>>137125927
for normal units, there's no special animations, so it will be more like Rome/Med 2. Heroes and Monsters will have some special animations for certain moves or when they fight other heroes and monsters though

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>>137125795
>do a 360 and walk away
Here's your (You), now stay go

>>137125927

Heroes and Monsters only

>>137124415
>Those Eraserhead looking motherfuckers

Slaanesh is one hell of a god...

>>137126128
>heroes

Fucking where? They just sweep and kick randomly

>>137122679
Join them

>>137126313
Only in hero vs hero/legendary/elite I suppose.
If heroes spent time sync killing enemy mooks they would slaughtered by ranged units in no time.

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>>137125637
>overrated

>>137126504
Is that a horse? A cow? A bear?

>>137109190
rollin

>>137115964
why cant ogres be added without chaos dwarves?

>>137125795
Not true, people are also talking about Hitler.

>>137126000
We haven't seen any hero v. hero combat yet, they just swing towards the opposing hero's direction.

>>137127158
If lord v lord has no special animations than i cant imagine hero vs hero will

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>>137119612
They've got the Elf problem though, they've only got like three cities, there's a vast blasted hellscape between them and anyone important, and have so few numbers that they might be able to field one/two full stacks with zero slaves. Plus they have an Elf Problem; those fucking high elves have sea forts watching the one river flowing out of the Dark Lands and fuck up the Chaos Dwarf fleet every time they try and break out.

Chaos Dwarf's biggest problem is that their flavor just suuucks. Background is decent, the Mesopotamia theme rocks, but they're just not entertaining to read about in the slightest. If CA does add them (very much uncertain) I 100% support revising them to be "about" something like Dwarfs and Grudges or Orcs and Fightan'. I'm thinking Spite, as in everything they do is a burning "fuck you"

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Viking naval combat is bretty cool, none of that maneuvering about with siege and archer ships, just get up along side them and smash them in the face with your axe, Wotan will give victory to the strongest.

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Is it me, or are battles in Attila harder than previous titles?

When fighting manually, I get worse results than if I auto-resolve (on Hard battle difficulty).

Also, do we know what the mechanics of different battle difficulties are?

>>137123617

>it was just a prank bro

>>137127662
It's not harder in my experience (VH). The only game in which I didn't consistently outperform auto-resolve was Napoleon for some reason.

>>137127662
Well you're not going get better if you're just going to keep auto-resolving. Try different strategies and army compositions fitting your playstyle. Although as ERE you should just spam spearmen and ranged for the sassy doomstacks.

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>>137127652


>board their admiral from all sides
>my lads cut them all to pieces
>as the amdmiral dies and the ship starts routing it spontaniously combusts, killing half of my victorious boarders instantly


bravo CA, you've done it again

>>137126794
best /twg/ ever then?

>>137109464
what mod?

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>>137125261
Estalia exists to steal Lizardmen gold and then get eaten by dinosaurs.

I bought the humble bundle. Which games are the best?

>>137128308
best human faction then

>>137128521

Avoid Rome II and Empire

The rest are all good depending on your preference for period

>>137128521
>>137128629

Don't listen to him Rome II is good

>>137128742

It plays almost the same as Attila and is worse in every way.

>>137128302
Please respond.

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>>137126674
This is probably an invitation for that cut&paste job to be posted but it's geography. Chaos Dwarf capital is Zharr Naggrund, which is right next to the Mountains of Mourn that are home to the Ogre Kingdoms. That's if they add ogres as settled factions. Which isn't the best because all they have to fight there are Chaos Warriors/Demons, Greenskins, other Ogres, and Chaos Dwarfs.

Estalia and Kislev are ultra boring and generic. Russians on bears, that's so incredibly creative.

How many walls does Altdorf have?

>>137129172
Holy Roman Empire with magic and tanks. It's not like the entire Warhammer universed is heavily inspired by the real life cultures in our world. I mean just look at the fucking map.

>>137116242
>karaks are virtually impregnable
the orcs take that shit all the fucking time...

>>137129334
Yeah no, kislev is pretty obviously russian/polack. Thats WHY theyre ultra boring and generic

VAMPIRE COUNTS WALKTHROUGH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a9nF8X2Yd4&feature=youtu.be

>>137129552
>112 turns in
>control literally no territory of note

Yeah okay.

>>137128521
If you favour a particular time period, pick that

otherwise:
Shogun 2 is the most polished game, and a great starting choice for beginners. Plays really well from easy difficulties right up to the hardest settings.
Rome 2 isn't bad either, since its mainly been fixed with the Emperor Edition. Pick that if you're an anti-weeb repulsed by Samurai

Rome 1 and Medieval 2 are dated and quite clunky if you're new to series, but were great for their time. They are also highly modable, so there's a lot of great mods for them out there. Most of the mods greatly improve on the vanilla experience and allow the games to remain competitive with their more recent cousins

Attila is basically an improved version of Rome 2, but it's hard as balls so I wouldn't recommend starting there. Empire is all sorts of broken and should be avoided like the plague. if you enjoy the time period, go for Napoleon instead. It's smaller in scope, but makes up for it by not being complete shit. If gunpowder is your real jam though, go for the Fall of the Samurai expansion for Shogun 2

>>137129334
The empire is inspired by the HRE, but it's not the same. It has its own unique look, very "Warhammery" with the skulls, the pergament scrolls attached to the armours and all that. Meanwhile Kislev has Winged Hussars straight out of real life and Pseudo-Cossacks who exactly look like their real life counterparts. It seems kinda uninspired.

>>137129552
the map looks big as fuck

>>137129063
Wait, the Ogres live in mountains? I thought they were fantasy-Mongols?

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>>137129883
>It has its own unique look
>, very "Warhammery" with the skulls
Bitch please.

>>137129998
the also live further east of the Mountains of Mourn, that's sort of just the starting point for Ogre territory

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>>137129172
>Kislev
<Ultra boring

All of my reeeeeeeeeee

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>>137129552
Yeah, yeah thats cool and all but my dick has been ready for terrorgheists for months and orgasm denial isnt my fetish

>>137130120

The problem?

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>wanna play monstrous faction
>looks like Empire/Dwarfs fit my play-style best
>tfw

>>137130120
Chaos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a9nF8X2Yd4

Nobody posted this yet?

>>137130586
VC

>>137130676
>VCs caring for the Dorfs
Other than that looks bretty gud

>>137130663
Are you blind?

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>>137130549

Shed the trappings of your historyfag nature and unleash the beast. Gunlines are for scrubs

>>137130515
he's probably forgotten its using Rome 2/Attila province system, meaning 20 provinces is like 60-80 settlements

>>137130663
Do they tell you how to build more walls?

>>137130767
But it's so satisfying to see my gunlines shred the enemy. I don't know if watching my monsters wreak havoc will match that.

>>137130959

When the Skaven come out you can get the best of both worlds.

>>137130959
Skaven, when they come out, will probably fit your preferences exactly since they have both pretty neat guns/war machines and monstrous infantry in the form of rat ogres.

>>137130959
Just play orcs with nothing but doom divers and trolls.

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>>137130959
Think of the siege potential though. Clouds of bats descending from the skies, The moans of the dead echoic across the streets, the valiant men that sally forth to defend their fair city find heir flanks torn asunder by mutated cannibals. Their machines of war left unattended as bestial vampires descend from the sky onto the crew, Packs of risen wolves coursing through the street, harrying reinforcements and deserters

>>137131023
I wonder, isn't skaven tech supposed to be unstable? Do you think they'll have a chance to explode and kill some members of the unit after every few volleys?

>>137130120
>Destroy Bretonnia

JUST REVEAL THEM AS THE FLC FACTION ALREADY

>>137131297
>wanting to play the cuck faction

>>137131181
The weeping bell might but i dont think the standard infantry weapons are violently combustible.

In the tabletop the skaven have a lot of rules for firing their ranged weapons into melee combat which is usually a big no-no because the troops dont want to potentially hit their allies but skaven dont give a shit.

Wonder how its going to work in the game since you obviously can fire in an engaged melee

>>137131179
>the street
Single street sounds about right

>>137130120

>20 provinces for a long victory

That really does not seem like a lot.

Is grabbing land and getting alliances just a lot tougher in TW:W than in previous games or is the campaign meant to be shorter?

He was like 110+ turns in and barely held anything.

>>137131023
>>137131082
It sounds perfect yea. Too bad I'll have to wait.

>>137131096
Maybe it could work. They seem to lack the ability to hold the line well though. Too offensive.

>>137131179
I have to admit it does sound appealing.

>>137131438

Everything Clan Skryre makes, expect for the jezzails and pistols, has a chance of going boom.

>>137131483
There are some other objectives too like kicking Chaos back into the north and defeating their doomstack. It's possible that the orcs will make holding land tougher if they do roam around a lot, there's two big orc battlefields all the way in VC territory.

>>137130663

>VC cities look nice
>Altdorf still a hovel

JUST

>>137131740
Nicer cities DLC will fix it.

>Long Game
>Total War with Rising Sun Mod

>Worried I'm going to be shit on, played Obama
>Stuck right smack dab into two dominant fighting clans
>roughly 20 turns in, figure I'll get aggressive. Take a town or two.
>Fucker has like a 14 unit stack
>Literally 80% of them are Veteran Rank 6

>All I've got is 4 lvl 2 Ashigaru, a couple wooden cannons and a assload of Levy Infantry

>>137125795
>do a 360 and walk away
You will still be walking forward you retard

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>this ruler
this guy also has traits: barren, boring and unjust

>>137131483
>He was like 110+ turns in and barely held anything.

that was probably done on purpose to show case more advanced things like the high tier units and chaos invasion

>Is grabbing land and getting alliances just a lot tougher in TW:W than in previous games or is the campaign meant to be shorter?

probably a bit of both. It seems like the garrisons on major settlements are pretty though which will slow things down, and you'll have objectives other than just taking shit like Quest battles. Plus the victory conditions for all factions seem to include beating chaos, which appears to be the Huns on crack.
But yeah, I suspect games might be quicker than Rome 2/Attila, although they might get longer with the expansion (this may be factoring into their decision)

>That really does not seem like a lot.

It's still probably 70-80 settlements. While not much by Rome 2/Attila, that's huge by the older games standard. Shogun 2's Domination Victory was like 60 provinces (each equivalent to a Rome2/Attila/TW:W settlement)

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>>137132063

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>>137131483