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/ptg/ - Pokken Tournment General #12

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Previous Thread >>136078297

>VS Code: vgptg

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/wg88nq9D

>What is Pokken Tournament?
Pokken Tournament is a game made by Namco Bandai that is a blend of Tekken and action-fighting games like the Naruto Shippuden series made by the same developer.

>How do I play online? What is a VS code?
After completing the initial menu tutorial and picking a partner pokemon, pick Online Battle from the main menu / world map.
VS codes are basically passwords. Set the preferences to Anyone > Use Vs Code > vgptg

>I have the game and this chick's voice is making my ears hurt
Luckily for you, Japanese voices are a menu option and you can completely turn it off.

>What are some resources I can check out?
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pokken+tournament+tutorial
http://kuroganehammer.com/Pokken
http://pokkenarena.boards.net/
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first for suicune
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first for weavile
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Xth for best girl.
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PUT MAWILE IN POKKEN OR IT'LL BE SAD
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>>136127676
I mained Peacock in Skullgirls, luckily, she's in this game too!
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Who's your main and who's their worst matchup?

>Mewtwo
>a better Mewtwo
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>Using the new layout
>Not forcing that /g/ maymay thread code
>Not splitting the VS code into two parts

Based OP


Also what's the best Nia outfit and why is it Sporty
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>>136127784
Gardevoi
pikalibre
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>mfw playing pikachu vs power characters

I don't like hitting you with all of these thunderbolts and thunders and frankly I rather uppercut you in the face but I don't want to eat 50% of my HP in one combo.
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Hey /ptg/

I'm normally a smash player, but got pokken because it looks incredibly fun, and I was bored.

I'm playing against the AI on normal, and while I am winning consistently, I realize I have no idea what I am doing.

I did all the tutorials, and I did the move/combo tutorials for Machamp.

I was able to get down all the combos, but the instant I get into a match I forget them and just sort of flail about. While I haven't lost to the AI, thats mainly because they don't dodge command grabs, and just attack into counters.

I understand the basics of the game and the Triangle system. I just want to know how I can actually apply any of this shit to playing.

Are there any particularly good videos to watch to help someone get into it?
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>having a main that doesn't blaze it
>not having pokegirls on your balls
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>>136127676
That's a strange looking Gardevoir
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>>136127784
>weaville
>characters I fight for the first time
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>>136127881
gay ass captcha ate my face

>>136127984
>More machamp mains
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>>136128082
Well, Machamp is my favorite pokemon, so I just sort of picked him regardless of his play style.
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>>136127768
>Tfw no Big Band/Beowulf equivalent
>>136127784
>Chandelure
>Librechu or someone who can out-zone me
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>Get matched up against a Garchomp one match away from ranking up
>Beat him
>Match up against him twice more
>Beat him two more times
>Prevent his rank up
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>>136127984
>>>/google/
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>Aren't Lucario's paws adorable?
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>>136127784
>Braixen
>cant touch good Gardevoirs
>Gengars are incredibly tricky and I can't figure them out

h e l p
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>>136127784
Online Braixens give me trouble
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>Braixen is a tsundere magical girl with meaty thighs

how did The Pokemon Company let this happen?
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>>136128056
>My mom's onion knight
>Best
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Nia's stinky feet!
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I find Blaziken very difficult to play against as Weavile due to his high damaging combos and counter piercing attacks. Anyone have any tips?
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>>136127984
I dunno much about Machamp, but I'd say you should probably turn on your brain to proper combos if you do manage to hit the right move. Go into free training and try to see combos into what regardless of the few things the combo dojo taught. Eventually it'll be muscle memory for when you're in an actual fight, so when you hit the right move you'll know automatically the combo to move into.
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>>136127784
Lucario
Anyone who knows how to play against Lucario
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>>136128429
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>>136127820
>Sporty
Mien nigger.
>>136128465
>Footfags
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>>136128465
I imagine she cleans them, I don't think they smell.
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>tfw can't main Weavile without being called a tier whore even though Sneasel was one of my favorite Pokemon with Weavile becoming one too once he was released
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>machampfags saying their character is hard
>try him out
>2hko every other character
SO HARD
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someone hop online and kick my ass
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>mfw I beat someone who has a better K/D ratio and is a higher rank than me in a Rank Match.
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>>136128739
So? Just play weavile
who cares what other people think
If you like the Line so much
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>>136128748
I haven't seen anyone say he's hard, at least in ptg
He struggles with getting in on zoners though, people complain about that.
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>>136127820
>Sporty
>not Downtime 3
Sporty is great, but it can't out-best Downtime 3

Also anyone else like the my town theme, its nice background music
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>>136128238
I'm alternating between that and "Gardevoir, you're so cute."

Does Braixen have any lewd titles?
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ggs Mallet
your zoning game definitely got a lot better in the later matches
thanks for actually helping me practice cadc approaching, I haven't found anyone who would let me learn it in ages
tfw posted in the old thread and didn't know a new one was up
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>>136128997
Braixen is lewd in general
Doesn't need a title for it
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>Fill up Synergy Meter as Sceptile
>Opponent starts backtracking in fear
>Walk straight into leaf storm
Every time.
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>>136128238
Is that a tiny Master Hand?
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>>136128739
weavile actually takes thought to play most of the time since your combos don't do that much damage and you have the worst counter in the game
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>Wow, these graphics are incredible! I've never seen such amazing graphics in a Pokemon game before, they really did a good-
>mfw I notice Weavile's Icicle Crash
What the hell? Was the artist drunk when he made this thing?
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>>136129102
Yeah, ggs. I need to learn how to deal with Garchomp in general, its toolset is ridiculous and you were using it really well. Dem wall combos.
tfw I did the same thing
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Someone tried to tell me Lucario was bad.
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rate but don't hate.
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What do you call a pokemon who runs a lot?
Lucardio!
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>>136129745
your gay
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>shofu getting destroyed by charizard
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>Lose 100th online match in a Machamp ditto to someone with less than half my win-rate
I'M NOT EVEN UPSET.
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>>136130125
Calm down Taboo-Senpai!
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>machamp
>guess two things right
>win the game
okay
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I'm a hue fegit who loves to spam garbage from a distance until my opponent snaps his controller in half, who should I main?
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>>136130360
Mewtwo,Spectile or Braixen
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>>136130360
Gardevoir and Braixen are good choices if you want to do this on newbies.
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>>136130360
If you also want to immediately die when they touch you, pick Gardevoir.
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>>136130360
Mewtwo is the best zoner, a decent rushdown, does great damage, and has no actual weaknesses
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>>136129745
Amane Nishiki/10
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GGs Jp
You're the first Suicune I didn't hate playing
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Lets see those trainers
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>babby's first fighting game

pshhh
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>>136130890
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I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT SHADOW MEWTWO. IT'S FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT FUCASLKJASJKCAS
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>>136130949
She looks VERY smelly!
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>smog
so how do you even get in there then
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>nobody's using the code
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>>136130953
Online or Ferrum League?
Either way, just counter-roll his projectiles and out-zone him.
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>>136130481
>>136130490
>>136130569
>>136130660
Is there a specific one I should try to git gud with first or should I try to play all of them until I decide on my own?
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>Suicune player spamming the air water beam in duel phase
>slide under him and super with weavile
ayyy
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>>136130902
Is SFIV your first game?
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>>136131108
Ferrum League.

I have a hard time with this shit. I always fight up close and getting close to him is a mistake.
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>>136130890
nerf your fucking machamp, fat
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>>136131113
Mewto since he has such a fucking large toolset
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Hey /ptg/ just got this game. Gotta say it's fun. Got a few questions though:
>Any tech I should be aware of while playing?
>Can I turn league difficulty up if it's too easy?
>How do I get this bitch to shut the fuck up and stop telling me how to play this game?
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>>136130890
I really need to do the league to get the cooler outfits. I look like shit I know. ;~;
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>>136131405
First off, read the OP.
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>>136131443
You look like a young Brock
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>>136130820
GG kuri
Your braixen was fun to fight against
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>>136130890
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>It's a "World's Laggiest Pikachu" episode
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Me + my Pokken Girlfirend
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The timing is super strict, but I found a cool Weavile combo I haven't seen anyone post yet.

8y 42b r a(cancel)8a[a]

Much better than the combo the combo dojo gives you, but it's harder to pull off.
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>>136131870
8a is the ice pillar right? you should be able to get an icepunch followup afterwards if you charge it
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>>136131405
Not really, just the triangle and the character specific high/low stance changes which you should just google.

Ferrum League is an absolute joke until Red League where you might actually get caught off guard and get bodied.

It's in the OP, but just go to the My Town menu and change the advisor settings.

>>136131532
Yeah, if he looked like adult Brock there'd actually be a rock type in this game.
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>>136130890
One day I'll have the willpower to change it up and use a new, less boring, outfit.
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>>136130890
This may be as perfect as my avatar may ever get
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>can't reflect Chandeleur's beams with Suicune's Mirror Coat
>also its lasers come out faster than mine
The fuck
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>Try to punish Braixen spamming fire blast with Weavile's slide
>The little hop evades it
this is not ok
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It's all very good, yes?
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>>136130890
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>>136130890
I posted my stuff in the last thread already, so I can't post it again until it dies.
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is it possible to respec the skills?
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>>136132415
go away shofu
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>>136132550
yes
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>>136132415
Having your skill points spread out like that would be worse wouldn't it? Since apparently the gains from even going all in are small, I'd rather just dump em all in one thing

>>136132550
Pokemon settings in My Town
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>>136131989
Nope I was talking about an ice punch follow up. Here, I'll type it out the long way just for you.

Up y (anti-air) > Jump > Left+Down Icicle Crash > Ice Punch (first hit) > Charge Ice Punch (second hit)

I forgot to type jump, sorry.
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>>136132620
So all blacks are shofu to you?
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>two people disconnect after one match
it's not like there's anyone else on
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>>136132726
Ah, I haven't gotten the hang of antiair combos yet and I just hit D2. I try to dominate the air with Icicle Crash bullshit instead.
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>>136132396
braixen is going to be the cancer that will kill this game
nerfs when
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>>136132672
your choices literally don't matter
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Anyone have any support pokemon tips for Braixen?

Currently I'm using Diglett for free fire blast, Cubone for double boomerang, and Ninetails to Fire Blast and buff safely
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>Online says I'm from London
>Actually South-West

How do I change that shit? I've tried the Wii U console settings and I can only choose "United Kingdom", so it's gone and fucked up by itself.
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>>136132910
I'd stack it all in defense so maybe I could hang on with 1HP and get that last hit in
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>mfw I teach Shofu how to use Psystrike on stream
Why does no one read the move list?
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If you're here; GGs Mallet, your Gard out-zoned me good.
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Anyone got an explanation of the button input notations people are using for the game? Haven't used the clock/numeric system since KOF13.
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>>136122856

Deoxys - In both Field and Duel mode, he can use a single input (Back Y or something) to toggle through his forms (Normal > Attack > Speed > Defence > Normal). In each form, all of his other inputs result in different attacks.
Normal form focuses on zoning, mostly at midrange. Damage and defence is average.
Attack form focuses on heavy pressure, breaking through shield quickly and dealing large amounts of damage, but defence is low, so opponents can deal lots of damage back
Speed form focuses on rushdown, with moves that let him get close to the opponent very quickly and can bypass projectiles. Damage and defence are less than that of Normal form, however
Defence focuses on powering through opponent's attacks with various forms of super armor. Damage output and movement speed are low, however.
Theoretically, you'll want to switch forms depending on your distance with the opponent and how much pressure they're putting on you.
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>>136132902
Everything she does is far more annoying than it has any right to be to be honest. I have no idea why fireblast knocks you down if it hits you before it erupts.
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>>136132847
Probably because no one wants to play with a gardifag
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>>136133313
>4 forms in a game this simple
nah senpai
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>>136133304
Oh wait it's the numpad notation, I think I understand now.
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>>136133254
Yeah, GGs! I learned a lot about Chandelure, those spins last way longer than I thought.
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>>136132934
Bruh it's all about that victini. Support gauge + Free crits on your high damage low-hit combos? Yes please.
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>>136133313
fuck no that would be broken
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How do I punish Suicune's Blizzard as Weavile? The way he lands really messes me up.
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Mirror R. Pika matches are some of the funnest things ever.

It's literally suplex city.
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>in the middle of Blue League
>already fucking tired of single player
Man, I just want to play online. I fucking hate unlockables in a fighting game.
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>>136133313
>>136133546
I think having two forms that compliment each other would make more sense.
Basically say Normal and Speed are semi paired so during move execution he'll shift forms.
I.e. YYY would be Normal form attack x2 and then Speed form finisher.
And then Defense and Attack pairing changing the moves available and stats slightly.
Or alternatively having Field Phase be Speed, Duel Phase be Defense, and Burst Mode be Attack, leaving him to be Normal mode only in Round animations.
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>>136130890
I really like the color green.
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>>136134117
Fuck, no, Field Phase be normal, Duel Phase be Defense.
Then having Burst Mode Duel Phase be Attack and Burst Mode Field Phase be Speed.
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>>136130890
R8, H8, or B8, M8.
>>136133691
I need to use it more often, it's surprisingly good.
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>>136130708
Rude.
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>pull off combo into synergy burst
>synergy burst only deals 15 damage

also which one of you motherfuckers named your trainer horsecock
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Okay, either people are brain dead in E5, or playing through all of the Ferrum League first made me actually not suck. Nah, I'm probably still terrible.
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>Finish leveling Braix to 100
>Decided to work on another character
>Give the champ a try
>He's a fuck ton of fun
Why the fuck did I not play him sooner
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>>136127394
I thought we agreed to trim down the OP
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>chomp
>beating the everloving shit out of a chandy
>at a sliver of health left
>game completely freezes
>"connection to opponent lost"
my fucking ass the connection was lost
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>>136134778
The OP isn't even long.
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>>136134378
>reshiram/cresselia
Why would you choose worst support set
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>>136130890
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>>136134778
Pretty sure that is the trimmed version
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100 wins, baby.
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>Charizard can jump cancel most of his normals
okay thats pretty cool, allows for cool blockstrings and stuff too

>tfw finding more nuanced stuff with the power types than, say, speed types like I expected
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What is your guy's favorite things to do against other players?

I enjoy running in under people using aerial projectiles with Weavile and then supering them with the huge fuckoff tornado. It's SO GOOD
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>>136130890
>tfw you can't properly cosplay as a whimsicott
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>>136135007
I only use Frogadeir/Eevee anyways, so it's not like it matters.

Honestly I really don't know what support Pokemon are best more my play-style just yet.
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>>136135175
>offline
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>>136135175
>start of chroma league
not worth shit, nerdo
hope you enjoy that dropping like your balls haven't yet
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>>136135334
Let me see your offline.
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>Get the HP lead on a mashing Lucha Pika
>Time him out for the win
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>>136135478
Alright. Don't really understand why though
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>>136135478
>Switched to Chandy in red league cause fuck story mode
Story has never been this easy.
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What's the best way to level up? Does ranked offer any sort of exp bonus?
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>>136135975
Nope
Everything gets you the same XP
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>>136135975
If you use exclusively one character you should be just about level 100 by the time you finish every League.
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Just hit D1 by beating up three Gardevoir fags in a row, where you other Weavile players at?
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>>136136470
Funny, I just hit E4 after getting a perfect on a Weavile as Gardevoir.

>Waifufag bragging about winning
>Thinking E ranks matter at all
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GG Mallet, I hope to fight you again soon
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>>136136470
I need another pokemon to main. Is weavile fun to play?
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>>136136470
>Hit C3 winning all my rank up games in a row
>last one was a 78% W/L mew2

Eat godfist mew2 fags
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>>136136470
Oh, it's you again.
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This game makes me want to play the actual pokemon games again.
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so is it just me or is champ chomp's single worst matchup
>chomp is 100% a close-ranged fighter
>no ranged options
>machamp is the exact same but has better cancels and hits a shitload harder
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>>136136647
weavile is very fun when you get your groove going
the downside of weavile is that you have jack shit for hp and a godawful counter, so you need to make the most of your opportunities when you find a way in

my roughest match right now is machamp because he just kills me in two combos or grabs and I don't like getting close to him for fear of getting countered so I have to lame him out and harrass him with icicle crashes and the occasional divekick
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>lucario counters me before the animation for earthquake is even finished
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So currently I have been trying to get good with chandelure, whats a good secondary for me to work on though? I tried out braxien and gardevoir for a bit but I am bad at set up characters.
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>>136136470
Holy shit, share your secrets. Gardevoirs destroy me.
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>>136136874
who?
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>Want to secondary Sceptile
>So used to Chandelure that he just feels so weird to me
Any tips?
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>>136136470
Getting my ads kicked up and down with Weavile.
Can't even work out a decent BnB
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>>136136936
thats pretty much true vs every rushdown, the only difference is that Garchomp is the hardest hitting rushdown, 2 combos from him is death for Machamp too

>>136137049
Don't use a zoner as a secondary to another zoner, that just defeats the purpose. Try picking up a character that does well against Chandy's bad matchups
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Any other Champ bros here? I need to dito match someone to try to get better with him
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>>136137205
I know that feel. I've spent so many hours getting my zoning bullshit on with Gardevoir that I don't know what the game is like up close.
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>>136137115
for getting in? I recommend getting the hang of moving around using your quick-drop and icicle crash a lot in order to make it harder for people to zone you out

if they start a round throwing out random projectiles (aka 99% of online chandy/garde/braixen players) then just run at them, jump, and hit aerial X to punish them for it and get into duel mode

protip: the slide in duel mode (down+x I think) goes under several projectiles, kinda nice to throw out sometimes
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what the fuck is with travis' voice?
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>>136136936
I actually find champ the easiest since i zone the fucker with the sandstorms and energy wave till im confident i can violate in duel phase.
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Not even god knows
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>>136136936
Are you nigging that's probably chomp's most fun mu, he's the only poke that you properly go toe to toe with without zoning like a bitch.
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any of you nigs on the vs code?
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Any tiers for this game out yet? I don't wanna be a tier fag or anything. I plan on maining Charizard, just curious to see what he's ranked at. Maybe Lucario too
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I really really want to be a cute grill.
But my assistant is female and it makes me want to play male anyway.

Am I alone in feeling like this?
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>>136137809
>properly
>champ does in 1 button press the same amount that chomp can barely hit in a full combo
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>>136138491
Don't trust tiers.
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>>136136618
Yeah, same. I shouldn't have been worrying about Suicune's Mirror Coat so much.
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GGs Marlow I don't fight many Weaviles, but yours was good.
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I'm honestly not trying to start any
>tier wars
but is there a reason Braixen's burst seems to do so little in comparison to everyone else's?
Does it's Synergy gauge fill up really fast or something?
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>>136138538
Why not just make a lez trainer
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>>136138538
> Not wanting to /u/ it up.
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>>136138828
are you hitting it while in a combo? Braixen's raw super does about the same as everyone else's (Minus Gengar)
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>11 battles, 8 losses
I don't get this game, it's just a spam fest most of the time
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>>136138709
....Is Mirror Coat a move that shoots out a fuck huge beam when hit?
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>>136138828
Probably to make up for the fact that her support game is so strong, since she naturally fills up the gauge with her high stance, normals, and Sunny Day, which also fills Synergy.
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>>136139030
Yes, but only with projectiles
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>>136138792
I'm just glad I was able to put up some kind of fight.
Any advice on what I should be doing when you're on the ground (Oki? I don't know the term)?
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>>136135443
>tfw didn't drop a single game during chroma league
Does it get hard in Iron?
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>>136138828
I've discovered a neat little combo for burst braixen, only works against a wall though, and it sort of works out of burst too.

Burst
>Down Y >Down A >Up X>Up X> Burst Attack

Outside of Burst, depending if you have sunny day or not
>Up Y>Up X>Up X> Up A

Anyone have any Braixen combos or tricks?
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>>136137205
That's why I just stick with who I know how to use in this game. It's not like other fighting games in which I can use more people.
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>>136139030
Yeah, that's the one.
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>>136139118
I'm kind of retarded but I would charge up a counter or try to time a grab. Maybe even jump over and try to fake them out into a combo.
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>>136139118
Not him, but I'm pretty sure being on the ground forces a triangle trade, and you'll win ties. Just mix it up and you already have a 66% advantage.

Though maybe weavile has better options...
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>>136139108
>>136139458
Holy fuck, I was fighting a Suicune earlier and when I hit with Braixen's Psybeam it blasted me to atoms a few times

That explains so much, i'm dumb.
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>>136137149
There is always this one guy posting about "punching gardefags in the fucking face" or something like that.
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Post title collections.
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what is the single most beautiful attack in the game and why is it pic related
i swear every time it lands I wet myself a little
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>>136139491
I mostly use icicle crash for oki on weavile. if they're hitting counter then it'll miss and I can either hit them or restart pressure with a divekick or jump Y

If you're on the ground you can go in with a Y string and cancel to Taunt if they wake up with counter. It'll beat most counters unless they full charge it.
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>>136139797
I bet he got rect by a gardevoir and he's now shitposting on the internet for revenge or something like that.
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>>136138567
chomp can do half hp combos, the hell are you talking about? He also doesn't have a problem getting in. Him, Charizard, and Champ all have insane damage output, the only difference is their playstyle
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>>136139797
>one person
oh ho ho
try not to take it personally, it's just nice bullying gardevoirs
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So I just found a way to beat 99% of people online as Sceptile.

Field:

Use jumping A (the two seeds), and occasionally side Y (the one seed). Use up Y (the blade) when they get close; that move also sends you into dual mode every time.

Dual:

Use the two seeds again to trap them, and down A as well. Use forward A when they get close/knocked down from the seeds. Forward A also usually leaves them a good distance to use another down A. Your synergy will charge very fast; use it. I like Cresselia as support.

I've won literally 20 matches in a row with this and I'm a shitter. My WR previously was 34%.
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>>136139969
>when you land the crit grab>back y>release x
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>>136140243
Whens the best time to use or hold x?
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>>136140216
Do your opponents never jump?
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>>136140216
As a Scep main who'll do literally anything to git gud, I'll give it a shot.
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>>136137532
Me bro, but sorry if i'm lag. My little brother is watching youtube and i'm chilean so probably we are fucking away of each other.

Gimme a code.
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>>136140216
Doesn't work in late D rank and C rank. You have to really put the work in to be good as sceptile.

I suggest actually making an effort even if you lose more.
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I don't have it yet

When I pick it up, who should I learn to play out of:
Blaziken
Machamp
Weavile
Suicune
Gengar
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>>136140374
never because it's unwieldy as shit unless you map it onto another button
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>>136140484
Just backing up and using forward A/more seeds usually works.

Is there a way around this assuming the Sceptile is playing gay as fuck? The only way I found this """"""strategy"""""" was that someone used it against me and I couldn't do anything as Machamp.
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>>136140374
I just do it when he's in the sand tomb animation, the crit version is so long that you've plenty of time to start holding it.
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>>136140650
none of them, garchomp or mewtwo
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so what are some of the tekken references in pokken? what is EWGF?
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>>136137987
I am but i never connect with anyone
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>>136140854
weavile can hop over all that BS and literally just walk around the vertical leaf blade, doubt machamp is fast and small enough to do the same though
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GGS Gorilla. Sorry I backed out in the middle there, meant to change my support.

>>136139491
Could you explain what you mean by "winning ties". Can't speak for Attack and CA, but I've certainly lost Grab vs. Grab before.
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>>136140871
Garchomp is one of the worst designed pokemon

Mewtwo is cool, but you have to unlock it
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>>136140650
Blaziken.

Good reward for good reads. Good speed to get around zoning. But his counter attack drops instead of crumples.
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anyone know if repeated debuffs stack? as sceptile i'm discovering i can juggle lucario a bit with the poison cloud
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Is there a greater feeling than ruinning a newbie's perfect record?
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>It's a laggy Japanese Gardevoir episode
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>>136141246
nigga wat. Garchomp is fucking cool.
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>>136140896
electric wind god fist is a trademark move of tekken and pikachu has it in this game
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>>136141246
>worst designed pokemon
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>>136141246
>garchomp
>bad design
dude his damage output is insane, he can't be zoned, his grabs/projectiles are great, he has amazing combos, the fuck are you talking about? He has no real weaknesses
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>>136141394
And garde has it too which is kinda weird
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>>136141589
I meant it's fucking ugly
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>>136141394
what? Wouldn't the owner of the trademark sue this game then?
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ggs chazo. Sorry those battles were so lame, I'm really worried about someone right now and can't really focus tonight...
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>>136141754
Anon...
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>>136141680
Fuck you. Garchomp is fucking cool. He's a land shark.
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>>136141754
dude
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>>136141754
TPCi could probably get out of it easy
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>>136141754
(you)
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>>136141186
not if you time it right, which you can on wakeup
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>>136141754
Uwot?
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>>136141807
Good games! And don't worry, the first game we played I literally thought it was a cpu so I was half texting.

Still fun games, good luck with whatever the issue is.
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>>136141589
>projectiles are great

Have to disagree there, charged back y is probably his best one and it easily gets beaten out by pretty much every other projectile.
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>>136141889
a fucking ugly land shark

sorry

am flygonfag hoennbabby
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>>136142145
Shit taste, senpai.
Flygon is cool too.
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The lag in this game is unbearable. It becomes a fucking powerpoint presentation once every ten games or so.
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>single handedly preventing someone from ranking up
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>>136142378
nobody else has this problem
it's literally your third world internet
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>>136141754
Whew, thanks for the laugh.
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>>136142145
>mad he didn't get a mega
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>>136142378
Nah, your internet is shit.
I'm a fucking Chilean spic with a little brother who watches youtube all day and i can play with japs, frenchs and amerilards without problems (most of the time).
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Post Pokemon you want to see that won't happen in the inevitable sequel

Dewgong
Ledian
Reuniclus
Bellossom/Vileplume
Poliwhirl
Azumarill
Basically any Water-type starter Pokemon
Sunflora
Furret
Mienshao
Nidoking
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>>136140896
Garchomp has a few of Bryan's moves, most notably his grab and his forward y combo

Blaziken has Bruce's knee elbow sandwich thingy
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>>136142689
Luxray
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>>136141754
Retardation should be a crime.
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>>136142582
>>136142657
Yeah, must be my internet
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>>136142834
good taste
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blaziken cunt hair
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>>136142921
>testing in a national server.
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GGs Mallet, AB here. Sorry, I went to pick up something to eat.
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Are non-combo extender supports ever worth it?
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Really dislike synergy mode. There's almost no risk to throwing your super out at random and even when it does get blocked you're superarmored so you still have an edge over the opponent after a colossal fuck up.

Using super should immediately drain your synergy bar, I think. If they're going to have supers be safe on block they should make it a bigger waste of resources to just throwing it out.
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>>136143160
Put togekiss on weavile and burst
come back and tell me
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>>136142689
Gallade
golurk
diancie
lickilicky
kangaskhan
hitmontop
miltank
bayleef
gurdurr
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>>136142689
I have no idea if they would be likely or not.

Mawile
Lopunny
Medicham
Chikorita
Galuvantula
Azumarill
Mienfoo (or)
Mienshao
Scizor
Celebi
Mew
Meloetta
Diancie
Ampharos
Roserade
Zoroark
Milotic
Banette
leavanny
Liligant
Breloom (or)
Vileplume

Have a big list of wants and you'll have more chance to get someone you want to see in.
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>>136143160
I never use mine to extend combos. I use it to approach and get a mixup.
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>>136143160
>using a support to extend your combo for an extra 30 damage when you could use it to shift the momentum in your favor

>>136143217
I absolutely agree, I think they were confused themselves with synergy mode because tacking a super onto your combos gives you like 14 damage. No reason not to just chuck it or use it to punish unsafe bs or make a hard read.
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>>136143367
that shit is hilarious
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>>136143804
what does togekiss even do
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>>136142689
>Any Water-type Starter Pokemon
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Oh man, Gengar's burst is so good it almost seems unfair.
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>>136129745
>armin hair
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>>136143969
Speed buff and hp increase
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>>136140896
Charizard has Devil Jin's grab
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>>136143969
increases your speed

you are literally Sanic if you Togekiss while in Weavile Synergy
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>>136132934
doint talk to me orm y son ever again!
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>>136144157
You mean Shadow, right?
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>>136141246
Mewtwo looks like shit, too anon.
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>>136144362
my opinions>your opinions
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>>136144004
>Starter Pokemon
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>>136142008
Awesome, now I just have to develop a sense of timing.
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>you'll never bury your face between lucario's thighs
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>>136144828
Stop it anon please.
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>>136140535
Excuse the delay, if you're still around code is 71716
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>>136144828
life is the truest nightmare, isn't it
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>>136143125
Yeah, GGs.

GGs to AllBlue too, sorry you got stuck with me again after quitting the first time. I still don't know what to do against you, Garde can't break guards very easily and pretty much dies in one combo. On wake-up it seems like all its moves are too slow to even attempt the triangle. Once it's knocked down against a wall, it seems like there aren't any options.

Sorry for quitting on you, Chazo. That was all I had in me after getting rekt by AllBlue for an hour. GGs
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>>136144828
:)
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65 CPU matches.
I am going for my first online match. I am scared shitless of losing.
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>>136144157
Might be fun to fuck with. Tick grabbing with Frogadier is so good though since people sit there during the length of the assist, waiting to block both attacks.
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>>136144828
>thighs
>not paws
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>>136144828
That was too real for me anon
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>>136145245
why not both?

work your way up
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>>136137205
Hope you enjoy sick combos doing 100 dmg
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>/ptg/ quickly devolving into one of THOSE generals
Well that weekend was fun while it lasted.
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>>136145186
You'll probably win
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>>136145245
>>136145428
STOP
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>>136145245
>feet fuck
>digitigrade fuck
I find the second a tad bit more appealing but I'm still not a foot fag in the slightest ;(
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>Grab ignored Fennekin's explosion
THAT'S
ILLEGAL
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>>136145754
DAED GAEM
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>>136140535
>chilean
Mi negro flaite
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>>136145754
Pokemon already has a fan base. You can't handle light waifuing like you can the bants then you probs should leave
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>>136144828
>>136145143
>>136145245
>>136145428
>>136145848
Just end it.
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Someone sat down and thought this single player experience was fun.
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>>136145245
The game seems to think it's all about the paws
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>>136145780
I lost 1-2.
I feel like I am ruined forever now.
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>>136146047
>getting this triggered by entry level degeneracy
Why are you even on 4chan, anon?
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>there are always an odd number of players using the code at any point in time
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>>136137205
>Get game
>Pick Sceptile
>Go all the way to Iron League with him
>He's lvl 100 before I so much as LOOK at another character
>Think I'm pretty fucking good with him
>Decide to try someone else
>Get Machamp to lvl 100 because why the fuck not
>Go back to Sceptile
>I don't know how to do shit and get bodied by CPUs and Online folk alike
>Mfw

I-I guess there's still the Champ... Right?
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>>136146294
I got shit on my first match by a nip Gengar

it gets better anon
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>>136146047
what are you implying here, anon?
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>>136144872
iku-yo!
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>>136144828
>>136145143
>>136145245
can I get any tips for Lucario? I have been playing a lot of spammy/button mashy characters, and I went on a huge lose streak, so I tried out Lucario and played him very slowly and didn't spam and I actually won two matches! I'm new to fighting games, so anything helps
>>
I can understand Braixen, but Lucario? That's just too furry for me.
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>>136146525
get a tryhard fighting meme controller
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>>136146525
Mind the distance of your attacks.
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>>136142689
Rhydon (how did he not get in?)
An Eeveelution
Red or Calem fighting with Aegislash
Greninja
Furret
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Why are there no bug pokemon in this game? 2 Ghosts, and No bug pokemon?
>Pinsir
>Heracross
>Scyther
>Scizor
>Armaldo
>Accelgor
>Escavalier

C'mon. A Chandelier is in the game, but none of these characters are in?
>Feelsbadman
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>>136146525
I've been playing out of meele range, most people don't know the range of your forward-A in duel phase so abuse that, alsu up-A is really good against people who don't grab or know that it's a counter

I am shit tho
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>>136146294
i got 0 - 2'd 3 times in a row when i first went online, you just have to learn to adapt to playing with real people
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>>136146023
>Every thread is Braixen circlejerks and footfaggotry
>Light waifuing

Game is only FOUR FUCKING DAYS OLD. It took a solid 4 months before even a place like /utg/ to become complete cancer, and the game they're all about is only 5-10 hours long. This is a competitive fighting game that's showing no sign of "dying" any time soon. Shouldn't we wait at least a month before we run out of things to talk about? I mean for fuck sake.
Yeah yeah, I know. I won't let the door hit me on the way out.
See you next week.
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>>136146525
git gud. And stop fucking sheep.
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>>136146434
Are you in here? I'm still not getting matched up with you
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>>136146691
Theres also no water types, I wan't Greninja and Scyther for dlc, maybe Blastoise
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>>136146691
>Tfw no trapmaster Ariados
Would have been a fucking great Gen 2 rep as well.
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>>136146691
>complaining about 2 ghosts
>not 4 fire types
The lack of bugs is a fucking travesty

>>136147082
There's Suicune, but I don't blame you for forgetting/ignoring it's existence.
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>>136147082
Suicune is a water type.
Don't worry, I forget too.
No bug or rock though.
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>>136146894
>>Every thread is Braixen circlejerks and footfaggotry
In all fairness, have you ever been on /vp/? This is the 4chan Pokemon community here. I'm not defending it, but I'm not sure what you're expecting.
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>>136146894
The topic and shitposting are pretty crude and don't need to happen, but the streak of degeneracy within me doesn't mind it if the doses are still only this small. Sure, everything would probably be better if it didn't happen, but I also can't lie about the things I would do to Suicune's ass.
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>>136147231
I complained about ghosts because well...the ghosts arent really "fighters" I mean...i never think of a Ghost type "fighting" i always imagine them playing tricks and doing spooky shit.

>>136147194
woulda been sweet, love Gen2.

>>136147275
Two birds with 1 stone, with Armaldo or Crustle.
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>>136147275
>>136147231
Oh yeah, forgot about Suicune it doesn't even use water type attacks
I can still see Greninja, Scyther getting in, Golem and Blastoise too probably
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>>136146593
>>136146629
>>136146725
Alright, so try to use A moves more, got it
>>136146910
can't stop me
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>>136147417
Fair point. Then again we aren't on /vp/. So how's dem apples?

>>136147468
Anon, I'm not gonna lie about the things I would do to half the roster if given the chance. But there is a time and a place.
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Hard level ai just hit me with an attack and it broke my charging counter
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What titles are /ptg/ hunting after at the moment?

>Tfw bonus RNG won't give me "One Every 1,000 Years"
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>>136148645
I already have my perfect set.
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>>136148384
WELCOME TO THE NAMCO SINGLE PLAYER EXPERIENCE
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>>136148972
DREAMIN'
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>TFW stuck at 41% in friendlies for the past 3 days
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so if these guys existed would they be stupid and smelly like animals or super hot?
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>>136149224
DON'T GIVE IT UP LUFFY
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I don't know how to get good with Blaziken...
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>>136148972
>Flowers
>Striped shirt
>Dreamer
I like you
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>>136149271
>Caring about W/L in friendlies

NIGGA you should be losing trying to find the most efficient answers to all of the pokemon. Get you matchup knowledge up. Ranked W/L is a whole different story.
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>>136149421
Thanks anon, I try my best.
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>>136134113
Honestly, who the fuck k thought it was a good idea to make such s grindy story mode? Just do the fucking tourneys to rank up to stroker opponents and that's it. What the shit is the point of a prelim grind to qualify for the tourney to qualify for rankbup battle?
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>>136148645
Trying to get gambler and some snazzy clothes. Either that or one of those I suck titles cause it describes me.
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>>136148645
Is there some kind of tactic to getting lucky bonus titles? Or is it really all just luck? Because I've been after a couple.
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>>136149663
Artificial length
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>>136145921
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>lose 4 times in a row
>0% win rate
>feel like super shit

>proceed to win 8 times in a row
>beat the shit out of the same opponents who beat you before
Ah this feeling. I needed this.
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>>136146987
I was paired with 2 champs. IDK if one of them was you.

My ingame nick is Lucho.Chile.
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>>136149984
All luck. Only theory I saw thrown around was that the more stars you get in "Bonus" after a match, the more likely you'll get something, but it isn't confirmed.
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Golurk and Scizor for DLC when?
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Good games, allblue. But I keep getting inturrupted by things going on around my place. Sorry about being half afk during the last few ganes, but it's been fun.
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>>136150338
No I didn't get anyone
Damn
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EXTREME RPS
X
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M
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R
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S
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>>136150384
Shit. I'm sorry mang. Stupid people who uses a "private" code. At least i slapped the shit of those 2 champs.

G'night.
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>>136150518
Thanks for at least slapping their shit up for me champ
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>2 stocked by an E5
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>>136150361
>Golurk
Holy shit, I never realised how much I wanted this till just now.
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>>136144958
No i accidentally quit then bro : ) im glad we matched up again, it was fun

I would suggest playing Yui, he used the bomb traps a lot more and it was hall to deal with
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>>136150908
>Golurk bullshit combos
>Rocket punch
>Rocket uppercut
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ggs psychoboost
literally impossible to salt about losing to chomp
probably the most fun matches I've had in a while
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GGs nana, grumpy dragon dittos were fun but I need to go to bed.

I noticed you didn't use dig that much, why not?
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>>136150382
That's np bro. That Garchomp was oh my God. Fuck me lol. I only started winning when you started playing Mu2
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>gengar's that miss the free grab off of hypnosis
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What would you guys like to see nerfed/buffed in any upcoming balance patched?

Or do you feel the game is balanced enough?
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>>136150679
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>>136150904
>New Day on /ptg/
This place gets better and better every day.
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>>136151395
it seems fine enough to me, not that there will be any patches anyway
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>playing friendlies
>not willing to at least go 2/3
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>>136151247
My jumps and cancels are getting read more often than not lately so I figured it'd be better to walk around and scope the field rather than committing to dig, which is a lot more straightforward
it definitely helps with braixens who get greedy with their ranged combos and instead eat an aerial to the face
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>>136151395
I'm gonna need Braixen's moves to have twice the amount of startup
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>>136151395
Remove the S.Mewtwo infinite. Everything else seems good enough
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>>136151369
He can get more damage off a combo, and the combo might not cause a shift.
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>>136151395
S. Mewtwo infinite and tone down the scaling. I want my lab time to be sort of worth it.
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Why is Charizard such an unpopular character?
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>go to punish someone's unsafe as fuck move
>they can just mash counter attack afterwards and I'm punished for trying to punish a higher risked move
>have to make an additional read for trying to play a fighting game
who thought this RPS bullshit was a good idea
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>>136151604
Fair enough, I think I might be getting too comfy with all that breathing room earthquake gives from the jump cancel.
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>>136152123
Genwunners don't wanna play Pokken because muhnostalgia therefore no Charizard mains.
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>>136151395
Give Weavile an actual grab range.
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>Garchomp attacks me
>Counter
>Garchomp attacks me
>Counter
>Garchomp attacks me
>Counter
>Garchomp attacks me
>I use Synergy burst
>He shields
>Command grab
>Win

How did that man get to C2.
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>>136152184
yeah, I don't use a lot of eq either which is why yours always caught me off guard
gonna have to mix them in again
I didn't know the 4y connects after stone edge though, it always looked just barely out of the hitbox to me
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>>136151395
just nerf all my bad matchups. also my character is too weak they are the only character that needs buffs.
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>that huge as fuck ending lag when you cancel dig
might as well just hit their shield
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GG, Machamp player. I made some dumb mistakes, especially that last round (I forgot the broom attack flies in the direction of the opponent, so I put myself right back in the corner and you hit me with your super), but it was good fun nevertheless.
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>>136152416
by playing Garchomp
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>>136152832
Fair enough.
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>>136152138
If it was truly unsafe, then they shouldn't have been able to start the counter.
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>>136152736

Those were some great games man, really needed to get in some practice against Braixen.

Sorry for leaving so suddenly, despite making a bunch of mistakes (Got to over confident several times when getting a solid start), had a great time as well.
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Which characters require the least amount of combos. I'm too retarded to remember combos
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Garchomp dives under ground. How the fuck do you respond?
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>>136153087
zoners.
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>>136152832
>le ebin garchomp maymay
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>>136153098
Shield or counter.
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Just had an opponent disconnect on me, first ever.
So this is what it feels like. A mix of unbelievable smugness mixed with slight remorse.
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>>136153179
Buttblasted Carrychomp player
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I can't tell if Max still hates the game or not
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>win match
>hit rematch
>disconnect
>lose match
>hit rematch
>disconnect
Why don't you guys want to play the fucking game with me?
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>>136153179
I'm just saying the vast majority of the player base doesn't know how to play against him.
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>>136153087
Backhop so he misses
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>>136153098
PUNCH HIS SHIT IN UNTIL HE LEARNS
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>>136153254
Is he playing now?
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>want to play with /ptg/
>have to finish single player first
>single player is so boring that i can only do a couple matches at a time before getting burnt out
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>>136153352
Why can't you say that about the rest of the cast?
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>>136153317
depends on who you're playing and where you're playing
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>>136153465
Yeah he seems pretty good with Blaziken
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>>136153254
He's about to be D3 so probably not or denial
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>>136153218
>mfw they lose money from disconnecting
>buttmad poorfags everywhere
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>>136153194
But the counter never works against that move. Never.
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YO THIS LUCARIO
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>>136153031
>Got to over confident several times when getting a solid start
I did the same, believe me. Those were some really tense and close matches, particularly since Machamp, Blaziken, and Garchomp are the scariest matchups for me.

>Sorry for leaving so suddenly
Don't worry. Just having people who actually do remaches period is refreshing for me. It really helps me learn the matchups better.
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>>136153626
It actually does. Just make sure to charge it so it hits him when he lands.
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>>136153551
I'm playing a character I've never seen /ptg/ complain about and USA
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>>136153786
Gengar? Charizard? Weavile?
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>>136153626
The ai literally just countered me when I tried to dig
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>>136153750
But it breaks my counter when he dashes up from beneath ground.
Is it because I haven't charged it enough or something?
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>>136151015

So Golurk would be the Pokken equivalent of Sentinel?
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>>136153786
no you're missing the point
are you playing in ptg or pubs
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>>136153971
He's the Iron Tager.
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>>136153629
>mfw the announcer references P4AU
GIVE ME PATCH 2.0
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>>136151395
Remove S Mewtwos infinite
And extra cool down time on Normal Mewtwos hyper meme
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how do i git gud with my dear sceptile?
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>>136153971
We all know who blaziken would be
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>>136153881
Gengar

>>136153985
ptg
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Contest mode where you get money for the longest and flashiest combo when? If they can't fix the scaling I want something so I can do a huge combos with my cute Garchomp.
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>>136153481

Dont bother with Single Player, trust me.

I have like a hundred online matches by now and am still on the second league of story mode lol, i really dont think the AI will teach you that much.

Seriously, just do training a bit for whatever mon you wanna use, do an offline battle or two and hop on the online.

>>136153692

> I did the same, believe me. Those were some really tense and close matches, particularly since Machamp, Blaziken, and Garchomp are the scariest matchups for me.

Haha, i can see why. Glad to see we both managed to get in some practice against our most hated matchups.

> Dont worry. Just having people who actually do remaches period is refreshing for me. It really helps me learn the matchups better.

True that. It always feels bad when someone quits after the very first match, especially if it was a close one.
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>>136154286
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>>136154378
>a huge combos
Fuck me I'm wasted, you know what I mean.
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Oh my god Lucario's so hype.
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>>136153629
God damn, even though I only caught the tail end that shit was hype
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>Mfw Mewtwo's damage output
Is this shit even legal.
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>>136154554
I don't give a fuck if people think I'm a furry, Lucario is cool as hell and I'll play him if I want to. Just try and tell me you don't think the way they reimagined Bone Rush is awesome.
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While the game is incredibly fun, I really feel like they didn't test some of these match ups enough.

I understand that some characters will be better than others, but seriously.

>Machamp vs Braxien

I still think a majority of the game is balanced, just a few match ups are bad. That one in particular is just the worst in the game
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>>136154479
Shit son, at least post the full res
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>>136143217
Synergy mode is really poorly designed.

I hate that it's not only a get out of jail free card, gives more armor, gives health back, gives damage, but it totally fucks over certain characters.

>Mfw close combat does nothing to a super'd sceptile, and I take 200 damage from a """""""punish""""""""
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>>136154710
>there will finally be more Lucario players in /ptg/

I'm surprised it took this long, although I guess most of the furfags are maining Braixen
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>>136154584
>>136154710
They just don't understand.

Awoo boyz for life.
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How do you critical grabs again?
I seriously can't even remember the triangle.
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>>136153629
>>136154584
>>136154971
What are you talking about? Is it a stream?
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>>136155040
Yeah, just ended. Dude pulled out a pocket Lucario because his gardevoir got bodied and dominated.

He had footsies and """"""""""crossups""""""""
It was fucking beautiful.

>>136154968
I've been maining him since day one.
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>>136154989
Counter beats attack.
Grab beats counter.
Attack beats grab.
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>>136154242
>>136154242
I've been trying him out in training and I'd definitely say to keep in mind his R cancel in normal strings

You can backwards cancel out of his neutral X if you do it about a half second after you press the button to fake the enemy out and then rush back in and punish whatever their reaction was.
Good footsies basically.
Combine this with the fact that he has trap options he starts to come together pretty well.
Remember if you want to do any damage to use UpY in Duel to reduce DEF and Side Y to plant DEF reducing traps.
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>Vs Shadow Mewtwo
>10 battles, 9 losses
>Mfw I made it 10
I legit feel bad. Like, no joke or anything. There's some kid out there having a legitimately miserable time playing the game because no matter how hard he tries he just can't git gud. And I'm partially to blame
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>>136155040
Was the first of a weekly pokken tournament, the winner being a winners side lucario that bodied the shit out of the loser side who tried to pull a fast one with R. Pika
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>>136154948
thanks bruh
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>>136155307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46gc5lqH4W0
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>>136155184
>>136155319
I see. But what stream is/was it? I wanna watch it on vod.
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>>136155202
>Grabbing is mostly useless against anyone with half a brain
>Game is literally blocking, counters, and attacks that go through counters
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>w/l ratio on literally everything
This is my only real gripe with the game, shit is never a good system.
>matches are less fun and more stressful because of muh ratio
>losing stings harder, and bismirches your record forever, losses affect your ratio more than wins
>feel like shit if you have a bad percentage
>get judged based on your percentage
>sure this nigga has a high rank but look he's 50% what a shitter
>have inflated ego if you have a good one

It's just flat out gay. I can't wait for the time when my ratio finally drops and i get to see a 40% win rate, then get to depressed to play anymore
I am aware I shouldn't care but come on, deep down everybody cares
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>>136155441
vsgc on twitch
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When will you know you're ready for ranked matches?
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>>136155441
twitch tv/vsgc/v/56047528
This is it is I think, judging by the time and stuff.
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>played Blazblue a lot
>still trying to tech on Pokken

When will I learn
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>>136155603
>>136155670
Thanks!
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>>136143217
>>136154951
So... They're about as poorly designed as Megas then.
Who would have thought?
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>>136155536
To be honest I care more about my story mode win rate than the online.
I can deal with losing against real people, but losing against CPUs just pisses me off.
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>>136155307
>vs a regular Mewtwo
>He just keeps attacking
>I just keep countering
>Perfect round 1
>He just stands still round 2 shielding, letting me grab him over and over

It was a bitter victory. I felt no satisfaction.
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>>136155536
I played against my buddy who got the game early today. I just played it for the first time.

He was teaching me as we played, but he beat me about 15 games in a row. I managed to crawl up to a 38% winrate against him, but It's gonna suck if everyone sees that 38% winrate.

At least I went from getting perfected to actually winning some games.
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ggs lucario i fucking suck ;_;
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i have my first pokken based tournament tomorrow! i need hype music because i legit think i can take this if im playing well.
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>>136155907
Hype music?
The OST
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>>136154479
>>136154948
Hey! I was waitin' fo ya!
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>>136155907
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-WHW-QNswE
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>>136155406
Jesus christ.
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>>136155907
Play me we'll see
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>>136156078
Don't beat yourself over it. The kid's a kid. He'll probably laugh about it a week from now.
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>>136155862
GGs, that's a pretty terrible mindset for you to have.

I just think you were predictable. I don't know anything abou Sceptile but I'm not very sure he can do much long range against someone with a horizontal and diagonal fireball.
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>>136154948
When's Lucario in Ryu's clothing? They're both practically Ryu and Ken
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>>136156151
would if i could. my internet is down right now.
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>>136156204
If it's any consolation, I was laughing and not remorsing.
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Anyone up for a few friendly matches to test my connection and general sparring? Code is blazrage
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>>136155489
Grabs are always about mind games
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>>136156613
There is a general code if you wanna use it, otherwise I'm fine with playing with ya.
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>>136155307
Don't worry, losing in fighting games builds character.

I know this because I've been losing all day.
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>>136156372
Project M basically did that
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>Game's practically built for the D-Pad
>Use the Stick for every fighting game I play
>Instinctively go for the Stick even though it rarely ever works.

Is it possible for me to ever get out of this mindset or am I fucked?
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I know this has probably been discussed to death.

But why the FUCK is Pikachu Libre in the game and not Hawlucha not? Why create an original the charter donut steal (who is another pikachu) and not use the existing lucahdore pokemon? He could have plenty of awesome moves, and still keep the power up thing.

What pissing me off is Hawlucha is my favorite pokemon, and if there was a very small chance at DLC, Hawlucha is definitely not happening.
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>all these whiffs on both sides

good games tho, scep bro
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ggs other sceptile

im killing myself today
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>>136157406
#wow #whoa
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>>136157309
I mostly broke out of it by only navigating menus with the D Pad.
I still accidentally start using the stick whenever I play for the first time each day though.

>>136157330
People claim it's Korea's fault and that they voted Pikalibre on Twitter, but I don't have any evidence for that.
Pikachu is also Harada's favorite Pokemon apparently.
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>weavile
>burst
>togekiss
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I heard max say something on his stream that he did something to his router so he only can connect with people under 50 ping in pokken, and I heard another youtube person I watch say something similar in regards to fighting games in general, anything know about how you do this? It doesn't seem like something that would be possible.
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>>136157508
Yeah, but he is already in the game, man.

I just wanted Hawlucha so badly.
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>>136157330
Pikachu Libre is alot more interesting
Having a pretty cool move sets like electro web
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Damn, Wanted best out of five.

Oh well, GG's Blue.
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>>136157674
I'm sorry anon.
I would've played the mexican bird of flying elbow drops too.
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>its an opponents resets pressure for free with a reshiram assist that hits on frame 2-4 episode

I get so tired of this that I resorted to trying to synergy to stay in. Fuck this gay ass assist. It also destroys shields too.
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>>136157536
Just went into practice to test it out and HOLY SHIT

that backwards walk in duel phase
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>>136157729
Sorry, had to piss. Let's try and reconnect, we can make that happen.
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>>136157330
Seconding this.

Mewtwo the edgehog is okay but I'd rather have more type diversity over 2 clones.
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>>136157809
I would as well
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>>136157809
I would have mained Big bird and pocket lil bird
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>>136146894
Braixen has been a thing since release of XY. It's not about the game, it's about the characters.
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>>136158071
Master-Blaster bird duo when
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>>136158071
>Super fighting bird and Lucha bird combo
Tag team when?
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>>136157536
>>136157948
>Mfw
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What can I do against Lucario's Bone Rush attack? It seems absolutely safe to spam against me as a Gengar.
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Alright. I gotta sleep. Sorry to cut it short yogo. GG's
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>>136158363
Fuck I dropped connection, those were fun matches dude!
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>yfw there are more and more suicunes online every day
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I want to kill Nia!
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>Tfw 2-rounded by someone 7 ranks below me
What the fuck is happening.
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>>136158335
block into grab/hynosis

Lucario has a generous frame disadvantage after missing with bone rush
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>>136157330
South Korea had a poll and R. Pika won. Can this please be put in the OP?
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>>136158474
>Suck dick with Weavile so hard that I actually feel unbridled rage from a video game
>Switch to Suicune and end up having fun, not caring all that hard whether I get shit on or not.
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>won a match with 1 hp left
>Connection to opponent lost.
Why the ragequit, Allblue? I'm not even gud
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>>136156372
Rip my favorite game.
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>>136158620
>When you're E5 and stomp a D2
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>>136127394
How does /ptg/ now that Nintendo is more aggressively marketing the "furry" demographic?
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>>136158484
You'll have to get though me first!
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>>136158713
I like how you assume it was a ragequit. It disconnected on my end too.
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ggs brandon
looks like your net is fine
but wow I should really start playing weavile more from now on, I literally could not stop laughing like an idiot the entire time
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>>136158721
>Fighting Energy
NICEU
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>Want to try out all the characters because they all seem fun
>Afraid of losing my touch with Weavile after reaching C5 with him
Life is suffering, what do?
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Has the 'slow, and easily kept out but powerful in close' character ever fucking been good in a fighting game? Bonus point if they don't have incredibly OP stats to try and balance it out (If you made Machamp deal 600 damage with basic attacks, he'd obviously be broken).

A character like Zangief isn't a great example, because Greenhands are actually decent at getting him in, but even Gief has generally been bad in most SF games (and other games he's been in) and only occasionally has been decent. Never really top tier.

Because I feel like this is a typical 'archetype' that people keep putting in fighting games, and it always is incredibly frustrating for people who like them.
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>>136158904
ggs and yeah I might pick up Weavile after all that haha
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So much bullshit just happened to me in such a small amount of time I'm not even going to think up a way to put across to you guys, or even bother looking through my folder to find a worthy reaction image.

At the end of the day, FUCK 3RD PARTY CONTROLLERS.
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>>136158484
>get destroyed online
>looks like my advice is paying off!
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>>136158964
Create an alternate account for every Pokemon :^) seriously, what's to stop people from doing this
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>>136158637
Is that only on whiff, or does that also work on block?
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Ugh sorry all blue, don't wanna waste your time anymore. GGs tho!
Back to the lab~
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>>136158984
I feel like the concept would work much better if they ditched the "easily kept out" part and made it "slow and powerful but easy to punish", so their playstyle became more about calculated reads and punishes rather than a flashy game of tag.
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>>136159258
The worst part about pokken is that even if you DO get in, you get punished by the game just automatically setting it to neutral after a combo.

That and broken as fuck Reshiram that essentially makes Machamp unplayable garbage.
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>>136159146
on block as well but it's not as long as if it misses
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>>136159017
What happened? Braixen salt?
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>>136158984
They have never been amazing
They are always the under dog that bring hype with them
Hugo,Zangief,Alex,Tager,Ganondorf etc etc
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>>136159092
>THEY READ YOU LIKE A BOOK
>THEY READ YOU LIKE A BOOK
>THEY READ YOU LIKE A BOOK
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>>136159237
Also one last thing for ya blue, any recommendations for me? You seem like you could give out some decent advice.
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Please help, weaviles and braxiens are kicking my ass
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>>136159436
I used to watch Blazblue only to see Tagerts get wailed on for 2 minutes before seeing an opening and having enough meter to unleash the fucking fury.
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Why is weavile so cute goddamn
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>>136159592
GOTTA GO FAST
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>sanic speed weaviles

I can't
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>>136159092
I do wish they had different dialogue when you hit the max skill level.
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>People don't like the roster because it uses too many popular mons
>They actually all play moderately differently and they're all fun.

I even find Mewtwo really fun to mess around with, so I actually don't find a problem with the roster.
I do hope we get more characters in the future though.
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>>136158984
I agree. I play grapplers in every fighting game bu they're usually really bad.

They're only good in anime games because they have bullshit range and pressure (Waldstein) or a projectile and half of his moves with armor (Tager)

It's hard to balance grapplers for the reason you said, how do you reward someone for having to play patiently and make the correct reads? Insane damage? Too powerful. High stun? Same.

>>136159237
It's not a waste of time bro! Losing is part of learning and I don't think any less of you, I'm not above you and you're not below me. I play Garchomp so I can give you some advice: work on your mixups. Your game was fairly one dimensional. Lucario has to charge his aura sphere or w/e to be truly effective at the range I was pelting you in neutral. You can cancel dig with R or jump out with B. I jus sat there and blocked because you never canceled and I knew you'd do the full thing every time, then punished.

In duel phase it's important to assert your inside presence. If you know I'm going to chuck plasma, try to read my pattern and intercept with a jump X or a neutral X if you want to get fancy. Garchomp has a lot of good mixup tools in duel phase. Use the counter attack on soomeone who likes to mash out of pressure, then use the command grab which looks eerily similar to it. Also don't be afraid to command grab on wakeup if you've been hammering on people, they'll be more likely to block or counter attack.

Just work on being more unpredictable. Garchomp is all about that.

>>136159575
:) np friendo
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>>136159404
Third and final chance to rank up and I get matched against a shadow mewtwo. I perfected him 1st round, then he used that shield exploit bullshit on round 2. Come round three I got him down to ONE FUCKING HP and my poor machamp ass could not do shit while he just ran away and spammed projectiles. I got royally fucked.
And you must be a fucking wizard because the very next match was the exact same shit with Braixen spam. So thanks for royally fucking my shit up through meme magic senpai.

Literally my face right now, fuck everything I'm going to bed.
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ggs santa
I actually had to go do something else too so I guess it's all good then
sorry for speeding
I don't actually main weavile and it probably shows
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>>136159480

> Super close match
> Opponent wins with 50 HP remaining
> WOW, THEY MADE YOU THEIR PUNCHING BAG!


(I would still fuck her though)
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>>136159886
My only gripe with the roster is that there's not enough mons
I like all the characters we have now, but it would've been a bit better if the roster was a bit bigger
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What happened? It wasn't on purpose I swear

GGs tho, weavile. My scep can't handle that speed. And I keep whiffing everything
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>>136159938
Thanks friend, I'll work on that at my local tonight.
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>>136160051
Same. It's actually a really solid roster, but it's severely lacking in some areas.
We need a bug type.
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>>136160048
>Hate fucking Nia

Drawfags when and where
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>>136159436
Iunno where you got the idea that Ganon was a grappler but ok lol.

Tager has been A+ tier since like 2 years ago. And the Japs say hes still that way in CS.

Gief was godlike in A2 and A3.

Alex is not a grappler.

please stop talking like you know what you're talking about.
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>>136160041
Oh ok, I thought I dc'd. I'm >>136160062

>weavile not your main
Well then.
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>>136159693
GENESIC
EMERALD
TAGER
BUSTER

-5200

"You're within my estimates"
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Only consistent problem I've got is R. Pikas and Machamps. Other Garde mains help please. Level and rank are outdated by the way
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Holy shit Braixen is actually really fucking cute in this game, like what the hell.

Damn it I already like Chandelure, and I don't want to be a heretic. Help me.
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how do i deal with range spammers with machamp?
CDC is isn't fast enough to deal with spam
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>>136160816
Stick with the furniture. That level of degeneracy and herecy is something you don't want to dab in
Because even if you find a way out, the memory will never be forgotten. You will forever be haunted by it. By your mistake
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The fact that the game has only been out for 4 or 5 days and people already claming to have mains makes me seriously question fighting game communities, aren't you supposed to give everyone a chance first?
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>>136160929
Better hope you picked a good support set.

Pray. Pray a lot.
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>>136160929
Cross Chop a lot.
Accept that you chose a character that has massive trouble with zoning.
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>>136160929
You pick another character, sadly.
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>two Mega Gengar's using Burst on each other at the same time
What a fucking gamble man.
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>>136161042
>Play combo dojo for each character in ~40 minutes
>Pick the character you click with or like the kit of most
>Main it

A lot of people picked who they wanted to play before the game came out though, either via arcade footage, trailers, or their favorite Pokemon.
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>>136161042
Seeing Chandelure once was enough to assure me that she would be my main.
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>>136160957
>Decide to switch mains
>Chandelure finds out
>Procedes to stalk you, angry and confused by why you stopped using it
>Goes full Yandere and starts killing every other mon, so there's nothing else you can pick but it
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>>136161042
>gardevoir favorite pokemon
>intended to play from the start
>garde's a zoner
>happen to main zoners in fightans
felt good m8
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Whats todays tier list
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>>136160929

Cross Chop a lot

Jump + Homing Attack is decent in Field Phase
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>>136161536
>killing Gengar
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>>136161536
>Avatarfagging as an ugly slut

Go back to /ssbg/.
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>>136160494
Garde's defensive options are pretty booty buttchecks. I use Snivy and Lapras. Snivy as a slightly better CA that hits high like an anti-air, and I haven't been interrupted on wakeup yet. Lapras to force them to go back to their corner and prolong the zoning.

Haven't fought many R. Pika.

Machamp

In field, use f.[y] to pierce through their armor and b.[y] to stop jump ins since they love to jump in. b.a ~ x (Psychic) or d.a should be the first thing you do when you force transition into Duel depending on distance from opponent. i tend to not use 'a' in this mode since it brings you close. Pretty much if I'm max distance will i use it. I'm not sure anything else you need.
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>>136161536
>You can't pick other mons on the roster
>They're all blurred out and pixelated
>Picking one gets you an error and your system reboots aggressively
>There's a weird frame glitch when you pick Chandelure
>You swear you saw its face full screen
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>Enemy jumps while I'm in burst
THE MATCH IS FUCKING OVER
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>>136161605
Ghost is super-effecting towards ghost.
Look stop trying to ruin my spoops alright?
>>136161691
Oh I'm sorry, didn't know I posted a Panty pic.
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>>136161691
that's not how avatarfagging works senpai
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>When both you and the opponent are one hit away from death
>You pull out a move you haven't used all game to throw them off and net the win

What move it, /ptg/?

I find it happening with Champ's boulder a lot, but only against close range characters.
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>>136161749
Shadow Mewtwo please fuck off
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>Try to fight /ptg/fags with the VS code
>Fight 2 AI matches before quitting
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>>136161830
Champ's cross chop. for whatever reason, I just forget about it.
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>>136161830
In duel mode, vWeak into moonblast usually does it for me. In field, Teleport towards them into magical leaf into vStrong
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>>136161830
Chandelure's Back Y
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>>136161830
Triple-charged Stored Power usually gets em.
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Why does Pikachu have Angry Kirby Syndrome in this game?
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>>136161868
Alright
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Fucking Machamps, just let me rank up already!
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>>136161830
gard's back y in duel. I mean it's pretty fast goes across the screen, but it doesn't have a lot of block stun or anything.
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>Watching Max suck total shit
I knew he was a fraud but god damn
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>>136157330
>Pika Libre
>original character

She was in ORAS
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>>136162196
He has the determined look in both regions, so it's not really the same.
Plus it's a fighter.
If you want a perpetually jolly character Chandelure is it, and Pikalibre seems that way too.
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>>136162332
>watching max doing anything

That xrd thing was pretty eye-opening.
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ggs AllBlue. You have a good Lucario.
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>>136162332
>Watching Max past UMvC3

When he was doing assist me for MvC3 he was a cool guy. Genuinely cared about the community, put a lot of effort into his work, was funny and charming in a weird way.

Then he started to get money and now his content is literally streaming games and then paying someone else to chop up 15 minutes of games into a video and plop it on youtube.

Meanwhile in his stream he screams like a retard constantly and is all "HYPE HYPE SUB HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE DONATION HYPE I LOVE HYPE HYYYYPPPE RAGE RAGE ANGER HYPE"
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blaze it
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I like these kind of generals. They will forever remain alive thanks to the degenerates.
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>>136162508
He's going full DSP now, I can't look away
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>>136161830
somehow sceptiles forward ranged in field mode gets me more close calls than it should, plus leaf blade if i have to cheese a match
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>>136162754
you're welcome
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I need some match up tips for Machamp vs Sceptile.

His field game seems better than mine, as the homing attack is extremely hard to use vs him.

His duel phase consists of spamming seeds and projectiles, and if I ever get hit by one, I get command grabbed for like 200 damage.

What should I be doing? Right now I just try to block, be patient, and counter attack, but even so I just keep losing.
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>>136154479
>>136154948
Is that a boy or a girl?
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I know not all Garchomp players are like this but please use another move besides dig or at least don't use it multiple times in a row. The surprise factor has worn off.
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>>136162661
Its aight, I need to space my hadoukens better but thanks!

Damn Gengar can be scary, he's like VT Bison in SFV with those teleport mixups, I had no idea when it was my turn to press buttons lol. Good games!
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>>136162692
He's getting rekt 24/7, it's really obvious he doesn't enjoy the game and is only playing it because it's the new thing like xrd
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>>136162508
what xrd thing?
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>>136162914
Welcome to Max.

He forces himself to play every new game because that is the only way he is going to get viewers, because most of the general people in the FGC don't like him anymore. He needs 12 year olds to watch him be le epic yelling at screen man.
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>>136161830
Lucario up A while they're still on the ground. Usually during a blockstring.
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>>136162909
as a garde main I say let me do their dig spam, it's a free calm mind stack and free dazzling gleam damage
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Good games, Greg. I gotta stop though. My neck is killing me.

Thank you so much for teaching me how crazy that down A is.
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>>136162734
Punch it
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>>136163081
>tfw psycho exroommate who threw literal fits and screamed at games in the wee hours loved Max

I should've known the lease was a mistake right then and there.
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>>136162986
Said he loved gg and everything when he played it then xrd comes out and he says its too hard when xrd is baby mode compared to what AC was. Just a big dick rider.
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>>136162873
Why even ask, does it really matter
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>tfw nobody's playing
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>>136161830
cross up pikachus jump y into nuzzle

Kills lows,counter,throws but not armored attack reversals and high attacks.
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>>136163251
man cant stand people like that. the two best friends are the same. just GG dickriders who never played it giving GG a bad rep.
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>>136163380
It's not even my WiiU that I play on. Can't do much about it, even if I suck anyway.
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Ok why is suicune fun?
Gimme some combos to test out, sui bros.
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>>136163453
JJASB
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>>136140896
I just noticed that there's a Soul Calibur reference in this game.
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>>136163745
And what would that/those be?

>>136140896
Dammit, I want Glaceon in the next Pokken (or DLC).
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>garchomp's sample combos

That was a pain. I'd need a need a proper fight pad for this character and Nintendo's Pokken one doesn't even look comfortable.
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>>136163730
Double Up Y combos into itself and basically half your fucking moveset. Do some rude stuff with it to people.
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>>136163935
>inb4 another support pokemon

fuck I want to play my eeveelutions so bad
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>>136163990
So do I, brother. So do I.
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>>136163970
>I need a $40 peripheral to press a button, direction and maybe hold another button
You'd be a big babby even with a fightpad
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>>136163990
the eevees are too small for Pokken.
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>>136164096
>brother
implying Im not an eevee
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>>136164257
but pikachu isnt
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Hey guys, what's your pokesona? ^_^
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>>136164190
and?
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>>136164613
Gatomon
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>>136164632
Lmao
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>>136164613
Jack Frost of course
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>>136164257
Kek, they included two Pikachus (not one, two), and they even considered Pachirisu as a playable character at one point (Harada and the other guy talked about it in that Gamespot interview). I doubt size is much of an issue for the devs.

At least I'll always have Braixen. The rest of the cast is pretty solid too (gameplay wise). We just need more quadrupeds/cutemon. The Eevee family covers both.
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Name me a support set that can help me with zoners like braxien and gardevoir, and up close attackers like weavile, machamp and charizard
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>>136164647
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>>136164613
Meowth
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I think I just lost to Max and I feel ill all of a sudden.
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What do you listen to while playing your main online?
Machamp main listening to nothing but Run The Jewels.
Nig music seems to do the best for him
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>tfw perfected a poor 20% japanese girl with sanic
>her greeting was "please go easy on me"
s-sorry
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>>136164746
Emolga/Fennekin
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>>136164746
cubone

whimsicott

pachi-magikarp
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>>136164935
doesnt he mostly upload his wins?
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>>136164613
Duskull
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Sex with Nia!
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>>136164935
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>>136163935
Shadow Mewtwo shares some moves with Algol, both by attacking by turning their hands into blades. He swings them identically.
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>>136164949
I listen to the damn game.
Otherwise, it's Skullgirls music.
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>>136165089
>It's already being made
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>>136165053
>>136165106
I don't know if it was him for sure, but it a was a Blaziken user with the name DudeBrodia or something. God I hope I didn't just make it into some victory montage.
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>>136165360
>Getting rekt by Max
Say hi to youtube
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>>136165360
can you ask him not to show you?
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>>136165360
I was watching his stream. Were you the Pika Libre? Gengar? Lucario?
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>>136164935
Why feel bad? Max isn't bad at this game, he's just not good just like us.
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how do i git gud at babby's first fighting game? i feel like when the opponent comes at me i panic and i forget how to execute even basic attacks (i mix up shield and grab really often, press up+y when i mean up+x). im also pretty shit at dealing with zoning and not getting annihilated by suicune or chandelure even with cdac and shielding, and the situations for the tut combos are so hard to come by. when i try to go for attacks i always get outsped or outpowered; it's really rare that i come out favorably in the exchange. it's pretty much a clusterfuck when i play but i don't know where to start to improve

im decent at melee but im sure that means jack shit for an actual fighting game
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>>136165564
I was a garchomp
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>>136165610
What character do you use?
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>>136164746
Besides the obvious Pachi/Magikarp, I'd personally say Mismagius/Ninetales. Ninetales works fairly well at both keeping up-close opponents away from you, and protecting you from most projectiles. And if the opponent blocks Mismagius, it gives you a moment to distance yourself, or close the gap.
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>>136165089
>nia's feet

I recognize this meme. how about you post them?
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friendly reminder that if you've ever wanted to style on some nip kids on friendlies now's the time to do it
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>>136165834
that image doesn't even have them

thank god
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>>136164613
Lucario
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>>136165695
i'm currently playing sceptile, who doesn't seem half as straightforward as other characters. his poke-combos are short and actually don't deal much, but he has some monster attacks (leaf blade, leaf storm) that can probably be chained up into some massive stuff, but i can never read the situation in time to actually do it
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>>136165908
It almost does!

What I wish was that we had full-body art of some of her downtime/dress attires. The dress one looks like she'd be wearing shoes that expose her cute smelly feet!
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>>136166036
I say it a lot but UpY in duel and SideY in Field are how you get your damage going.
It's all about the debuff.
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What do other Machamp mains use for their support sets?
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GGs kawaii
dunno what those random pauses were about
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>>136166047
>cute smelly feet

please don't, i wanted to go to bed and not masturbate
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>>136166367
Latios
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>>136166443
Then don't think about a flustered Nia being forced to stick her warm, sweaty, smelly feet in your face after losing a match!
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>>136166157
up+y in field and side+y in duel you mean? it's hard to get the up+y to connect - most of my field game is trying to juke them into getting hit by it, since its range is kind of short

what do you mean by debuff?
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>>136166623
UpY in Duel (the 2D) is a poison spray the lowers enemy defense.
SideY in Field (3D) throws the bramble patch that poisons.
Hold Y to change how far it's thrown
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So I just bought this game, did the tutorial and got through green league, but I can tell I'm trash at the game. What's some important stuff to remember? I already know about the counter canceling dash thing.
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>>136166623
Also having the enemy hit you in BackA debuffs.
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>nip Weaviles
make it STOP
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>>136166853
Oh and I'm using garde, unless mawile comes out. Gen 3 represent.
Gen one was my first, I just really like hoenn.
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>>136166921
you can play my weavile instead :^)
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>>136166623
>mfw switched Y and B buttons for gardevoir
>seeing people talk about inputs and Y
>wonder why you'd have to input some jumps
Playing Gardevoir is weird sometimes

>>136166970
Remember to charge your moonblast, which can be done at LITERALLY any moment. Swapping your jump and projectile buttons will help to so you can defend yourself while you charge. Keep your zoning game strong and remember your teleport because you will get shredded when someone gets in on you, especially champs and chomps
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>>136167148
Is there a way to charge moonblast without using psywave? Teleporting can go only forward or back right?
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>>136166749
do i just have to get better at reading when the opponent's going to jump? every time they're in the air i try to nail them with the up+a but they're able to complete on the attack before i resolve mine. does up+y have a bigger hitbox? i know it has less starting frames for sure

and for side+y the idea is to stun them and then close with an x-combo or up+y?
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>when Machamp doesn't one shot you with his grab
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>>136167403
Start charging moonblast WHILE doing something else. Like doing your side projectile, that's what I usually do. Fun fact, if you're holding down A before the match even begins, you'll start charging. As an aside, moonblast has smaller multi-hit hitboxes in the little circle right in front of you. Also yes, teleport can only go forward and back unlike mewtwo. A fun way I can usually get the jump on people is waiting for them to rush in, teleporting over them, and using my mid air strong attack. It's not much damage but it hit's em and throws em off and away from you, and that's what you want.

As strong as your zoning game is, you do have options at close quarters. In duel phase if you've got moonblast charged, you can do a down weak attack to slide into em and fire moonblast point blank. It's not a hit confirm guaranteed combo but it works 80% of the time 100% of the time.

Hope that all helps.
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Up+A reduces your Attack after use, I'd just go with the free UpY poison, it definitely has a bigger hit box if only because it hits opponents on the ground too, but it doesn't launch you towards your opponent either, which UpA does.

Comboing into upA is a lot better, either via UpX which is slow, or AA which launches your foe when the seed sprouts.

The stun can be nice, if you're at range you can also use it to try and get a backY for the heal.
X combo does more damage than a grapple or UpY so it's the better move if you're ready to go in, or you can keep abusing field phase.
Also don't forget the leaf tornado from your aerial X will eventually start launching homing leaves.
If you have it, the brambles, leech seeds, and bullet seeds going all at once it's hard for the enemy to respond.
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>>136167403
one more side note in regard to being shredded if someone gets in on you, keep your cool. I've turned battles around from 7 HP before. If someone thinks they've got you beat they'll probably throw out a quick weak or strong attack, in which case if you're quick enough on the get up you can hit them with your counter. Now the counter won't send them far enough away to do you any good, but immediately following up with stored power even with no charges will still accomplish something favorable for you.
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>>136167980
Leaf tornado from aerial Y, my bad.
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Any Weaviles have some tips on how to properly use Taunt? Sometimes throwing it out will result in me getting punished due to them being able to shield the follow up. I'm also not sure how to properly combo from it, I saw people here saying this morning they were getting 300 damage combos when all I know to do is combo it into Knock Off.
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>>136167403
btw it's calm mind, not psywave
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>beating a 89% winrate C4 Japanese Chandulure

I retire, this is my peak
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>>136167980
yeah ive definitely had more luck comboing - playing patiently with a+a into up+a is practically free if your opponent fails to shield at all

so in field phase basically spam your opponent with "lingering" projectiles so they can't respond? i can see how that works against other projectile users, but for guys who beeline right at you (weavile especially) they can outpace them and hit you from the side

thanks for the advice so far btw this is good stuff i havent been able to get out of my games so far
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Where should I be putting my points
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>>136168558
You are literally only going to need those points for dealing with shadow mewtwo at the end of the "campaign", so figure out what your biggest weakness/strength is and just pour em into that. Seriously I feel no different playing at Lvl100 versus Lvl1
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>>136168558
Each point is .1% boost, so if you dump them all in one stat it's a 10% total boost to that one stat.
Can someone put this in the OP next time

If you're playing a slow synergy character I'd recommend putting it syn, you will always benefit from it whether you're attacking or defending.
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>>136165360
>He lost to Max
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>>136168185
midscreen just combo straight into fury swipes for just under 200~
it only does 300 if your opponent is in the corner and you have synergy up so you can do taunt > ice punch > super
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>>136161830
Blazikens Sonic boom
Or if Duel mode his Charged A attack
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>lost to jap suicune with default trainer and 0 online battles
How could I be this shit
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>>136169351
>Almost lost a mirror match to a jap suicune with 4 losses and 0 wins
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Any tips on playing pikabro? Gardevoir main making a switch in the desire for a secondary to change things up with. Field phase feels natural enough but I'm clearly lacking in overall knowhow, especially in duel phase. Got any tips for an aspiring off-pikamain?
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>>136169351
>losing to a jap
This isn't anything special, you're alright Anon.
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>somebody block's weavile's divekick and tries to punish
>you do another one and kill them
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>>136169351
>Won against someone from Nippon with a 100% win rate
That was the closest damn match I've ever been in
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>No way to force regional matchmaking.
>No way to filter bad connections

Into the trash it goes.
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>>136169897
>needing regional matchmaking
Maybe you need better internet. Make sure to use a lan adapter, anon.
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>>136170626
SFV works like a charm. It's literally just this game pairing me up with people from 1/2 way across the fucking world. It has nothing to do with my connection.
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about that story mode

i had to beat the nigger out of mewtwo? that's the whole gist of it?
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anyone online?
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>>136171163
You got it nigga
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Been playing pika libre online and the only mon I've lost to is machamp, who consistently bodies me.
I can't zone him since my projectiles are made of ass, and it's really hard to keep momentum on my side like I do against other characters once I get the enhance bonus.
Someone please send help.
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>>136171163
More like; beating the edge out of Mewtwo.
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How do I deal with Gardevoir as Blaziken? Besides Whimsicott.
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>>136131292
Suicune. Suicune is so good.
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>people keep fully charging their counter on wakeup
>start charging a night slash to evade it and hit them for 200 damage
>they try releasing it early
>I cancel into taunt and counter them for 200 damage
so this... is the power... of weavile
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>ran into someone with the tag CutieTGirl on vgptg

jesus christ you guys are degenerates
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>>136175910
You actually find people using vgptg?
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>>136175910
Blame the feetfag.
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Thanks for all the Matches tonight
i learned today i need to work on my game against Zoners and fire blast spam Braixen
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>leaving after one game

do people not like me
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>>136176529
I like you anon
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It really pisses me off that

X, 8Y, HJK EX, Dash Y, Blaze Kick does 173 and switches the Phase

But

Y, Y, Y, Brave Bird EX does 176 and doesn't switch the Phase

The damage scaling in this game needs some serious work.
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>>136177102
AND

X, BLAZE KICK EX CANCEL TO FLARE BLITZ EX(?) DOES 180

I HATE THIS
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>>136177252
My bad it does 196...
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>>136176732
thanks anon
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>enemy braixen uses burst attack
>camera deliberately panning in on her feet and hips
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>>136161830
>mfw this doesn't apply to me because I use every move every game
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>>136178565
isn't it great
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I got the game yesterday so I've been going through the single player stuff and I have a a quick question that I couldn't find answers for.

Is there like a certain "optimal" skill allocation or is it like once you reach level 100 (or whatever the max is) everything is maxed out anyways? I just don't want to level up just to find out my shit's all wrong (unless you can reallocate points somehow later).
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>>136178891
You cant max out everything, but you can redistribute points anytime in My Town. Each point only affects the stat by 0.1%, and its believed they don't function on online multiplayer anyway
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>mfw everytime I overestimate people and think "nah surely they wouldn't do that a THIRD/FOURTH time after being punished" and get hit because of it
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Just found out you can duck under Charizard's seismic toss
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>one of the pumpkins in the Mystery Carnival is a Ditto transformed
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>>136179237
I found out I can just airdash over Suicune's (and presumably Chandelure's?) beams :D
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>>136178995
That pretty much answers everything. Thanks anon!
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Do you guys keep getting matched up with the same player in succession in ranked or is it just because by glorious european high speed internet puts me in a pool with few other players? I mostly get Swedes, Finns and Germans.
>>
>The faded green health bar is the limit to the health you can recover
oh
I was under the impressions that was how much you'd heal from a shift or burst and that heal supports could heal more than that. Same for Gengar heals
That kind of sucks
>>
You'd think you could escape here?

No. Have some feels.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoQNUP9cblc
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>>136179487
I got nothing but that shit yesterday.
>Losing streaks against the same player
>Lose to a guy enough that he ranks up
>The same thing happens in my favor a few matches later
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>>136179679
What the hell are you doing posting that special doggo theme here? This place is too violent!
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>>136179826
Sorry, anon. I'm just still upset that
>Beat game
>realize Espurr has gone through whole game without any parents
>Had to watch all friends they had practically die
>Everything they dealt with
>Game ends with you and special doggo living with Carracosta, but Espurr is still alone.

I just wanted to play some pokemon.
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>>136180303
I get the feeling Espurr probably prefers to be alone, especially since it's from the most antisocial line of 6th gen, who have the characteristic of lacking expression entirely.
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>>136180612
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>>136180612
It still hurts, anon. It still hurts.
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>>136179679
fuck...
the feels are back
I cried when riolu had to go...
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>>136180928
They're fine, it's not like they're completely isolated. Serene Village is a pretty decent place to be an almost-loner.
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>>136127784
Machamp.

I wanna say Braixen is my worst matchup, but I don't think I've ever actually beaten a Libre Pikachu.
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>>136127784
Lucario
Ditto/Sceptile.
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>>136181478

>>136171478 here, how are you losing? Are they using some secret projectile tech I don't know of, or somehow pulling out options that beat machamp's consistently in duel phase?
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>>136181742
That's kind of the thing, I don't really know HOW I'm losing to Libre.

Whenever I see her on the screen it just looks like a vomit of colors, in Field it's a pain in the ass, but in Dual they just randomly toss out that stunner special for like 200 HP and they do a bunch of block strings that don't even look unsafe on block. Also I'm fairly sure even though I activate my Burst super immediately after her activation, her Burst still wins for some reason.

Also like Weavile, Libre seems to low profile my Counter Attack all the time since it hits high. I just have no clue what this character is, and not a single Libre has ever let me grab them (normal Pikachu is just as bad cause you can't meaty him with a grab since his grab is airborne)

All the Yoda characters in this game are fairly cancer.
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>>136182096
projectile wise libre's either throwing out side Ys (where he jumps sideways and throws out a short range projectile) back Ys (homing thunderbolt that moves REALLY FUCKING SLOWLY) and jumping Ys, which is very similar to side Y but vertical instead of horizontal. Also lacks the ridiculous end lag of side Y.

As for the stunner, it's beaten by a counter attack as long as you don't release it early and is unsafe on shield. You can also grab the start of it if they try to use it next to you.
You're right about the safe block strings, but of course if they just spam those it's an easy counter attack. Also some libres do yyy cancel into stunner every time without reacting to block, which is super unsafe.

Going under machamp's counter is something I never considered, I'll definitely have to look into that.
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>>136182683
>Also lacks the ridiculous end lag of side Y.

They're called recovery frames.
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>>136182762
I come from smash, does it matter?
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>>136182824
Smash players use the term lag to refer to time the character cannot act because 'recovery' is used to describe getting back to stage.

Traditional fighting game players call it recovery frames because the word lag is earmarked for bitching about how they lost because of a 'bad connection'.
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>>136182824
Yeah, this isn't Smash and frames are used as the universal terminology for referencing what is and isn't safe.

"End lag" is also an incredibly stupid term because lag refers to delay/distortion in online gaming, but that's irrelevant, you do you my man.
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>>136161706
Is there something I'm missing or is renigging calm mind not a good defensive response?
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>barely losing to a player named "xDarkSepirotX" with a fedora avatar

Which one of you
>>
>>136183094
I played a guy named Kuckles and assumed it was someone from here
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>Braixenfag
>Reddit username
>Disconnected after losing first round
It's an all-you-can-eat cancer buffet!
>>
Daily Reminder: If you have shit internet, stop playing Pokken online!
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>100 matches
>0 wins
how do i not suck?
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>>136157309
what's so bad about sticks in this?
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>>136183397
how is that even possible

if that's true I don't think anything can save you
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>>136183094
hello Luis, glad to see my intellectual setup and handle is working as intended
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>>136183067
>>136182994
I see, thanks
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>>136183397
REMEMBER THE ATTACK TRIANGLE
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>>136183525
I-i do, nia ;.;
but for some reason my grabs don't work of attacks and counters don't work on grabs???
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>>136183401
I use sticks but for me it feels kinda awkward to do high/low stance buttons in the dual phase with them so i'll just use the D-pad for that.

The stick is actually really close to the d-pad on Pro Controller so it's pretty comfy.
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>>136183606
shit man I dunno what to tell you then
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>>136183606
>Stuttering
>Meme faces
>Being THIS retarded

4/10 made me reply
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>>136184437
>>136184437
>>136184437
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>>136183606
If you knew the triangle then you wouldn't
>Grab when they're attacking
>Countering when they're grabbing
Stay in the tutorial and fight against bots in the lab before going back out into the world.
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>>136146336
Champ will always be there for you bruh
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