Heroes of the storm General /hotsg/

Where the FUCK is Maiev????

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second for memer's feet

Guys.

what the FUCK is essence?

>>135932746
golleged essenze :-DDDDDDD

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ebin matchmaking, fun fact the other team is the fucking UW team in heroes of the dorm

>>135933215
that's why you don't play team league. it's dead. i got top 200 leaderboard and played like 100 games and almost all of them were against people with like 1-2k less MMR than us

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Reposting my late blog from last thread sorry i know its annoying but
>mfw trying to climb to rank 1 from sub rank 20
this shit is basically just QM at this level

Mostly I just feel like no one at this level can fucking draft, and given that team comps in HOTS is so crucial not knowimg how to draft blows fucking games

Id say at sub rank 20 i get maybe 1 in 8 or 9 drafts that ill feel good about, the rest of them are full of first pick tassadars and raynors, people picking medic into greymane, people not being able to fill roles effectivley because they only own a handful of 2k and 4k gold heros, people still drafting sylvanas because they're fresh out of the cancer QM meta, etc etc etc, not to mention its pretty common that they have little notion of how to play and win games

Like it just sucks, because i do like HOTS, but it doesn't have that LoL or DOTA maximum efficiency meta where most of the gameflow has already been mapped out and you dont have to worry about your Jinx or Garen or whomever being rediculously out of position and trying to jungle or something just because everyone who plays LoL just knows that that's not what you're supposed to do when you play those champs

So for someone like me, who watches pro HOTS and shit and wants to be a full tryhard and take the game really seriously, theres like no fucking opprotunity to do that because at my rank, probably over 90% of the players are hypercasual and it makes it feel impossible to rank up, because every fucking game it feels like you have 1 or 2 complete fucking retards who are throwing

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Where the FUCK is Superman????

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XTH FOR KINKY AND THE FROZEN THRONE!

>>135934185
The engine doesn't support Superman so they can't add him in

Where's Poochy?

>>135933654
Part of the problem is the amount of players in the system. In a standard matchmaking system, over enough games it will have a pretty good idea of how you stack up against MOST of the other players. It might not be 100% accurate in the exact spot, but it should know you're better than that guy that thinks gazlowe is hot shit, and worse than the pro that can land 100% of all his skillshots as lemming. The point is with not enough people, this type of differentiation is harder to pinpoint. If you look at LoL, it's a fairly accurate statement that everyone in bronze has no idea how to properly CS. By extension, the people in gold likely have an idea about it, but probably have room for improvement. With enough people in the system, there are distinct areas that you can tell where people stack up and are legitimately better/worse, but without that playerbase, you end up having silvers being matched up with plats not because they were queue'd together, but because there isn't anyone in between at that time queueing to take the spot.

I'm not saying this is the problem, I'm saying I wouldn't be surprised if this was part of the problem.

SALE THIS WEEK:
>Stitches
>Psycho Stitches
>Az'Guldan

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>>135934995
5k exp contribution and probably dead for more than 5minutes, but look at his DAMAGE DEALT= Impressive STATS

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I've realized why I dropped so much this weekend. I bought Kerrigan and I cant carry shitters with Kerrigan. Back to Super Sonya and Ching Chong Ming it is.

>>135934995
its qm who gives a shit

>>135935341
Way to point out the obvious

please tell me Slug is going on rotation this week. It's been six months.

>>135936017

I'm hoping for TLV, I liked playing them but I want to play them more before buying them.

>>135936017

wat? you've played for 6 months at this point you should've enough gold to buy him/her/it

>>135935298
Well yeah Kerrigan is really bad right now

>>135935298
>I cant carry shitters with Kerrigan
>carrying
>in Heroes

I hate people like you

>>135937024
>but if you pop your ult with a 2 minute cooldown and then sit in the enemy team for its entire duration while they ignore you, you get a whole 1000 point shield

>>135935298
>kerrigan with splash damage and seasoned marksman

ahh the good old days

How does Rexxar smells like?

>>135937634
The wild.

>>135937147
oh fuck that's insane

THE LIGHT FAAAAADES FROM MY TEMPLES

I am a huge faggot

>>135938948
THAT FOOL WILL NOT EXPECT THIS

>>135937141
You can semi-carry with some heroes. ETC, Greymane, Balance-Ming

>>135938991
Tell me about it.

>>135939078
FOR HONOOR AND GLOORY

>>135937634
Like a barn and animal semen

>>135939496

ENOUGH .... The curse is over, Ihopeyoumadethemostofit

>>135939765
TALENT? HA! that's generous

>>135939929
THIS IS JIMMY

is piano uther good
or is it just
another
meme

>abby can take out all 3 keeps at 16
is this a meme? I dont see how you do with while the enemy team isnt retarded

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>>135940325
>is the hero with 8 buttons to press actually good
no, it's just a meme, having 8 things to use in a teamfight is totally overhyped

desu you won't need them in your bronze games

>>135940503
man just fuck my ass

>>135940325
Piano Uther is good if you're in a team that knows what it's doing and you can trust in them to take advantage of shit you do like Shrink.
Otherwise, there's no need to waste your talents on extra buttons to press except Storm Shield.

>>135940501
>objective spawns at top of map, enemy team goes there
>you burrow to bottom and destroy everything in sight
>ulti if a fight starts

Aba fucking destroys late game, only reason he's below average is because his early game is complete dogshit

>>135940834
>you need people to take advantage of Shrink Ray
are you fucking retarded or what? just slap it on Thrall / Xul / Kerrigan / Tychus and laugh as they do shit damage

jesus fucking christ the posters here are getting worse every day

>>135941029
You need teammates who don't run away from team fights, even when Rhegar is shrunk.
I've seen it happen too many times.

>>135937147
To be even remotely viable Kerry need her shields to be permanent.

>>135940978
>X hero is good at Y if Ignored
no shit

Now add in your team can't fight 5v4 and win so they can counter you all objective and still win it.

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Naga when?

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>sonya keeps bitching that "we need to dive, they have better ranged than ours"
>muradin does exactly that
>instantly destroyed because we have fucking malfurion as a healer
>Malfurion: kt try pyroblast next time, easy safe kills
this game was fucking painful

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>>135941174
>enemy team dives yours
better shrink rehgar for that ez kill xDDD

>>135933654
There's never any opportunity to be super tryhard because you can't voice chat. This game will never be played even remotely similarly in hero league as it is in tournaments.

They make a game completely dependent on teamwork, then don't include the only practical way to work with your team.

>>135941462
>X hero is good at Y if ignored

I never said anything about being ignored? If someone is forced to stay bottom then it's a 5v4 at objective so who gives a shit

>>135936017
>not buying slug ASAP for dat dere passive gold gain

He's made me about free 6000 gold just in game reward gold. Not including leveling, just from the 10g rewards.

guys,
how can those heroes be improved:
- Lunara
- Leoric

>>135942998
>Lunara's fine
>Leoric could get his Q damage and W damage back

>>135942998
Give Leoric some actual damage.

>>135942998
Switch Crippling Spores and Thornwood Vine, adjust for new placement. Crippling Spores becomes the Disable/Teamfight ult, Leaping Strike becomes the "i'm a faggot lol i kite u" ult, and her base kit doesn't feel like a huge piece of shit because she's an assassin with only one damage-dealing ability.

>>135942998
Leoric (these are all potential ideas not all intended to be used in conjunction)
-give him a 100hp shield (or whatever a balanced number is) when he casts w
-make w a targeted ability
-change a w talent to one that gives leoric more max HP permanently when he heals over 100%
-the upgrade of entomb now roots enemies instead of damaging them
-change March of the black King to something good. Like one of his attacks in d3 when he teleports to his target and swings with his mace. Maybe add a stun on on it. Targeted hero takes full stun and heroes caught in the aoe take half duration

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>ETC and Morales premade on my team
>The ETC is complete shit who picked ETC and Mosh pit even though he was up against Interrupt: The Team
>Morales stim drons Li Ming twice
>I get them in my next game as well
>they can't stop bitching about how I missed that one Maw

>>135932746
Survival

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wake me up inside

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>>135944876
can't wake up

>>135941029
Confirmed for muted player

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Li Li
ETC
Falstad
Tassadar
Nazeebo
Greymane
Sonya (Slot unlocked at Player Level 5)
Kerrigan (Slot unlocked at Player Level 7)
Cho (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
Gall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

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>>135945276
>Cho (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
>Gall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

>>135945276
So it's free wins week? Cool

>>135932706
y u do dis

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gg no re

>>135945276
>Cho'Gall freeweek

for what purpose

>>135945871
what??? HOW???

did they all leave the game?

>>135946226
etc carry

>>135945871
>that li ming siege damage

>>135946226
The power of Autism m8

>ded
why arent you still sucking browder's cock on reddit for doing his job?

Now that Li Ming does Sgt. Hammer's job better, how do we "fix" her?

>>135947264
reduct mana cost of her W and make blink 2 sec CD

>>135943053
This, I used to be able to kill chumps with Leoric.

>>135947546
>"hey guys, how do we fight this skeleman that has to sit on our faces to do damage?"
>"...sit on his face?"

and then leoric was nerf

PTR WHEN

>>135947490
I meant the fat tank girl, not the long rage mage

>>135947747
Pretty much, it was the same with Naz and I loved him too.

>oh hey how do we defeat this vodouman who has no escape if we get up in his face?
>...stay at range?
Then Nazeebo was nerf.

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Do you goys play every day?

Sometimes I can play 5 games a row (mostly when I don't have time), at the weekend I have time, but don't want to play with the same 10 heroes over and over again. (Hero League)

Wonder if they ever get at least 80% of the heroes to be valid picks.

>>135948581
yeah, pretty much
i am also sick of this, Li Ming is basically in every game (I'm at 2900 MMR atm)
Rehgar too. I really wish they just fucking deleted that shitty mage. Her range and mobility is the most annoying shit in the game right now.

Why does everyone on /v/ always shit on Heroes of the Storm, even in discussions of other MOBAs, a genre which already gets a disproportionate amount of shit?

>>135947264
Faster attack animation un-sieged
Small speed buff when out of combat
Smaller hitbox somehow

>>135949020
it's /v/
they always shit on everything other than whatever reddit is going to like soon after

>Playing squishy assassin
>Never ever get a warrior, if I do it's trash like Arthas or Anub while enemy get Muradin or Jo
>Get warrior Q
>Play some Leoric
>double warrior every game, muradin/leoric jo/leoric etc/leoric

fuck off blizzard

>>135949020
>Blizzard
>pick up and play style gameplay that /v/ thinks is "casual"

Pretty much it.

>>135949020
because /v/ is the second most-Valvedroney website on the internet after r/PCMR

>>135949020
because /v/ thinks video games should be respectable rather than fun and have as high an entry bar as possible. and they want tity in everything so they're mad Jojo and Morales even exist.

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>Diablo is not my most played anymore

>>135949648
don't forget how they randomly get boners for mundane games and hype them up to the point where they become super popular all over the internet
agario comes to mind

>>135937634
Illiteracy

Why is everyone having such a huge boner for Valla right now? Sure, she's better with every build except for the Multishot one, but Falstad is still better by far, Zagara should still be picked before her, and Raynor is still situationally a better pick.

I've been getting first pick Li Ming and Valla so many games, I'm sick of it. It's a weak as hell start to a draft imo.

>>135949290

>Play another game
>double warrior

what the fuck is this even about

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>>135950306
>triple warrior/Zeratul/Sylvanas

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>Blizz makes completely breaks nova
>she gets incremental buffs for about every patch for several weeks after to rectify their mistake
>Blizz breaks Arthas
>lol fuck him let him suffer WHO EVEN IS ARTHAS ANYWAY

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>>135949290
>Anub
>trash

fite me IRL

>>135950870
Nova is Blizzard's poochy with Thrall and KT

>won 3 games in a row
>first game, enemies picked Cho'Gall and I counter picked Anub
>second game, the enemy Sonya was just walking into towers. All game.
>third game: enemy team had a late game comp but their retarded Valla gave up after losing the first two immortals (which of course did next to nothing). She started feeding and was away from all team fights.
Feels bad, man.
This can't be 2980 MMR. It just can't.

>>135950029
Probably just because she's 2k gold so people can get her for free pretty easily

I know she's supposed to be good in the hands of a really good player but im not sure at like sub rank 10 she's really all that valuable, but people see rank 1 streamers use her and think that that means they have a green light to constantly pick her in any and every situation

I own valla but i never play her, if I want to play a sustain AA based dps I'd go falstad or thrall or even lunara before valla just because she's so fucking dull to play

>>135951386
The HOTS toxicity is getting real dude

I just assume that 4 out of 5 games at this point is going to get thrown hard because some autistic 13 year old is going to see one of his teammates, like, cast an auto attack that he didnt like, and proceed to stop playing so he can blog about it in allied chat, then probably continue to argue about it in whispers after the game

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>playing QM as Muradin, the god of warriors
>close match entire game, but friendly team has been in the lead
>suddenly super big fights where both teams wipe each other out (only two warriors between both teams, MAGE META)
>they get close to our core, and we get close to theirs
>both cores are under 50% at this point
>I go into enemy base, activate avatar and go ham
>enemy team tries to bog me down, stun me, etc.
>unstoppableforce.jpg
>getting melted down fast
>hit stoneform as a last resort and throw a final stormbolt
>kill core at the exact same time as i die
>mfw

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LOL

>>135952406
Muradin always the best

Is there any reason to play Butcher instead of Graymane?
I feel that Graymane can achieve the same thing Butcher can, only faster and more reliably. He is also ranged, so he's much safer than Butcher will ever be.

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>>135952602
thats not how you write Tyrande

>>135952970
Kill that thing with fire

>>135945276
good, only two heroes I need to grind to level 5

>>135952406
subscribe link where

>>135952968
At least butcher has some form of sustain even though it get's shut down if your target steps 5 feet to the left. I honestly just love the Lambs ult and yelling incoherent gibberish/MEAT in chat

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>enemy team: Tassadar, Diablo, Sonya, Thrall, Xul
>mfw I'm Graymane
>mfw enemies all dive in at once
>mfw I just jump on tassadar and kill him every teamfight
good draft boys

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>those babbys on your team that cant handle the banter

why is this game full of angry 13 year olds?

>>135954163
Is Greymane any good?

>>135955584
TRY HIM OUT NEXT WEEK FRIEND :¬)

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Okay so I am picking Hots up again, give me a quick overview:

> How's valla?
> Vikings still OP?
> How's actually OP?
> Who should I spend my suprise 11k gold on?

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when it rains it pours

>>135956689
>tales from below Diamond

After this past free week it has come to my attention that Chen is both fun and cute. Looks like I found my next gold purchase.

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KILL YOURSELF FUCKING GAY REDDITOR

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>>135955584
He's the best

Poke around with your powerful ass autos and cocktail and when the time is right jump in with your even more powerful ass butcher tier autos.

Then you mount Li Ming's head on your wall.

>>135956971
rekt

>>135956529
bitch don't slime up the ride

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>been like this for 4 minutes now
they should ban these shits

>>135957587
didnt read

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>>135956689
>>135956748
Should I end it all if I dont win this time? Favored by 400+ MMR

>>135956529
> How's valla?
Worse then before, not bad but other heroes do her job better.

> Vikings still OP?
Much less so, second highest winrate but much less pickrate. They're far worse in teamfights but their XP gathering is still ridiculous.

> How's actually OP?
Xul counters alot of things but i wouldn't call him OP after his changes last week. Li Ming is still ridiculously powerfull and probably the closest hero to OP.

> Who should I spend my suprise 11k gold on?
Li ming or save for Dehaka who gets released in like a week.

>>135949734
WOW Tyrande is CUTE!

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>>135956529
>>135957546
>>135957738

Okay, still got it. First game and I absolutely wrecked those fucking kids. Now I all need is a good hero to stomp shitters.

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FUCKING WHEN???

>>135958647
>ruined hs
>now here to ruin hots

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>>135956689
>tfw

>>135942998
His W is shit now, look at xul for example.
He literally uses Leoric's W for 4 seconds and blizzard thinks this is fine.

They should revert his nerfs, especially in his passive, he used to literally NEVER DIE because he got back up so fast.

What do you actually have to do to get silenced?

I have been a huge pain in the ass, when coming home from a night out&drunk and I have never even revived a warning, even so I singlehandedly lost games (when people pissed me off).

>>135959742
>Xul's W is life drain

but that's not true

>>135960019
>>135959742
I was talking about Leoric's Q, my bad.

>>135959742
But Leoric is old news now so blizzard doesn't care about his balance.
I'm sure once xul is old he will be in the same state as Leoric, sadly.

is Cho'Gall still decent?

Since it's free week I've been playing a lot of Anub'rak.
Why does beetle juiced activate after the animation and let half my beetles time out before it refreshes them? Is it really so OP to have 2-3 90 damage summons when Zul can have 6 out constantly? I mean they don't even work on mercenaries and by the time you push up to the fort they aggro the turrets and it's impossible to make more.

>>135962267
OLD HERO
NO BUFFS
NO BALANCE
DEAL WITH IT

>>135945708
#1 orbiter lad

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>go hamstring build on butcher
>it's actually the best build
>lose anyway because blizzard puts me with literal retards

WEW LAD

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IT IS LIKE QM GETS WORSE DAY BY DAY

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>>135963990
>auto attack thrall

>>135964175
fuck you
og build is still the best, chain lightning is meme

>>135963983
b8

>>135964175
>shitposting anime man

>reach 2200
>get hit with forced 50 teams of kindergarten toddlers
>drop down to 2100 again

thx blizzerd

>>135964582
Doing the same between 2400 and 2500

Will THE big patch come with Dehaka, or a month after him? I mean the shitload of new icons, Gazlowe and Tychus reworks, ARAM and quickcasts

>>135965793
>gazlowe rework
oh shit is it happening?
What will they do to poor tower man?

>>135956529

>letting girls with no ass touch your car

i would let valla touch my car tho. valla is cute!

>>135965863
limit the number of turrets he can place at any time

>>135966705

good idea. gazlowe is too strong.

>>135966705
>>135966992
The cooldown on his laser will be increased, to add to the impact it can have on a team fight. Of course, to balance for this, its damage will be reduced by approximately ~20%.

>>135967160
I can see them increasing the lazer's cooldown, but don't be a smartass abaout it's damage. They're gonna increase it slightly, so it could destroy creep tumors when fully charged

>>135967298
How does a 2% increase in damage sound? I'm being generous, here.

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IT'S
FUCKING
HAPPENING

>>135967635
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20058190/big-changes-coming-soon-to-draft-lobbies-3-21-2016
dumb nigger

>>135967635
fuck me
forgot link

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20058190

>Aside from the new art and animations, one of the first things you’ll notice in the revamped draft lobby is the row of “favorites” we’ve added near the bottom of the screen, which will make it easier than ever to quickly find and select your top eight heroes ahead of each ranked game.

>Ranked play will use the “Mid Ban” method, which works in much the same way that bans do in official Heroes of the Storm tournaments. This method features two bans per team during each ranked draft: One round of bans before hero picks begin, and a second after three hero pick rounds have elapsed.

>we’ve upped the minimum requirement for ranked play from 10 to 14 heroes. Additionally, any Heroes that you’ve reached level 5 or higher with —including those on the Weekly Free-to-Play Rotation— will now count toward the minimum hero requirement, and can be selected for play during ranked games.

I sincerely hate logging in at around 12pm to see all the NEET Amerifats arguing about politics in general.

Fucking FUCKERS.

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>>135967745
>We’ve also removed player level requirements from ranked play, meaning that you will no longer need to reach player level 30 in order to participate in Hero or Team League games.
WHY

>>135967917
They'll still have the hero limit for sure, so there's that at least. If you didn't drop any cash on heroes I don't think you could feasibly get 10 good heroes before level 30 anyway. With bans, the hero limit will probably go up, too.

>>135967817
>Additionally, any Heroes that you’ve reached level 5 or higher with —including those on the Weekly Free-to-Play Rotation— will now count toward the minimum hero requirement, and can be selected for play during ranked games.
"muh p2w" Dotards btfo

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>they have hammer
>we have no dive

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>>135967745
>>135967817
>Additionally, any Heroes that you’ve reached level 5 or higher with —including those on the Weekly Free-to-Play Rotation— will now count toward the minimum hero requirement, and can be selected for play during ranked games.
Why bother buying heroes, again?

>>135967917
You need to own at least 14 heroes now, but see above.

>>135967917
>>135968236
>I don't think you could feasibly get 10 good heroes before level 30 anyway. With bans, the hero limit will probably go up, too.

Yes, it's pretty much the same thing. You need to own 14 level 5 heroes now.

So...
turns out blizz actually cares about hots? I am surprised.

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>>135967817
So it looks like now they are using the 3D models for the portraits on the selection screen, and you see their skin on the selection screen

also this fantasy world where kerrigan is being picked, butcher and artanis are being banned.

>>135968483
>Why bother buying heroes, again?
quick memes where you can pick specifically who you want to play?
iono

>>135968624
Quick memes and custom games, but that's it.

Jesus, how big is this patch?

>>135968683
as big as your penis so not very

>>135968589
>able to sort heroes by role
>able to set favorites
>can ban just Gall (kek)
nice

>>135968589
>Haunted Mines

>1st ban limeme/xul

the game will finally be fun again.

I guess they got a lot more money from skins than heroes.

>>135968683
Bans, gaz and tychus reworks (most likely, but not 100% confirmed), Dehaka, and probably some miscellaneous balance changes. Bretty gud.

>tfw want Grandmaster more than bans so I don't have to wait a month and a half to see if I got gud enough for top 200
bans are fine too, though

>>135968589
>elite a.i.
>haunted mines

>>135968889
>tfw playing Chen
>tfw finally able to ban diablo and etc when I don't feel like dealing with them
>tfw Chen is too uncommon to receive regular bans

HL will be a little more fun now, I guess.

>>135968905
They probably found out that new heroes generate a lot of money especially when they are op. So new heroes will probably be released very strong from now on, and won't go on free rotation until a month or so later so if you want the best heroes now you need to buy them for HL.

>Butcher banned

Early April Fool's, I see.

>>135968975
They also are adding the technology to select certain abilities for quick cast. An Illidan rework or some changes were hinted at from that as well. New icons too for a bunch of heroes.

>>135969368
Oh right, I completely forgot about that. I won't really have any use for it, but hey, it's great for the game.

>>135967817
Oh fuck is the game almost out of alpha?

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>go into ranked
>some shitter bans x hero because he can't move out of aoe or a-moves to select which target to fight

>>135967817
>One round of bans before hero picks begin, and a second after three hero pick rounds have elapsed.
So if both teams don't ban xul and ching chong first ban then it's not assured. Well at least we have some form of banning now.

>we decided to reduce hero pick timers from 45 to 30 seconds so that you can get back to brawling in the Nexus as soon as possible.

This is terrible.

>>135969778
Yeah that's stupid. They should have them both at the start, but then I guess that would stop people from playing the new heroes in ranked a lot if they were strong. This at least gives them a better chance to pick them.

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Ill literally kill myself if we dont win this.

>>135970279
oh lawdy

HOLY SHIT

>>135969858
you don't need 45 seconds to pick a fucking hero fag.

>>135970279
They have Cuteara though

>>135969858
t. fag who selects a hero and then afks until the game starts
learn to piss in 30 seconds retard

http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20060107

PTR PATCH NOTES UP, FAGGOTS

>>135970627
dude nice

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>Illidan changes

>Illidan rework
>Sylvanas rework
>Kael'thas rework
>Tychus rework
>Gazlowe rework

HOLY FUK

>>135970627
>DEATH RECAP IS IN

Holy shit what even is this patch there's so much.

>Tychus rework
>first aid removed
>stoneskin removed
>bolt of the storm removed
>melting point removed
>all the Q talents moved to late levels
>nexus frenzy removed
>no AA range boost except for a lv1 talent that only affects your E

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS NOW HE'S NOT JUST BAD HE'S WORTHLESS

>>135970776
>
Permanently gain 0.1 Basic Attack damage for each enemy Minion killed nearby, and 1 damage for each enemy Hero killed nearby
>Upon reaching 20 bonus Basic Attack damage, gain an additional 20 Basic Attack damage.

what the actual fuck blizzard

>jaina Bolt of the Storm (Talent) removed
NERFED TO USELESS

>>135971216
>activateable giant's killer from level 1 and better Problem Solver at 20
yeah he's ruined

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WHAT THE FUCK, LOL

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>>135971216
>Tychaboos BTFO

LEL U MAD
U FUCKING MAD
POST YFW THEY ACTUALLY THOUGHT HE WAS GETTING A FIX

HOLY SHIT LMAO

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Wow Jaina got fucked

>Dragon Knight
>Now immune to Attack Speed slows applied by attacks from enemy Forts and Keeps

BWOAH SICK

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>that fucking Sylvanas rework

>>135971419
>what if we took the Garden Terror
>and made it a slightly worse Dragon Knight
>that'll help add some variety to maps

>>135971419
>no more drop pot and run

Thank fuck

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double charge on verdant spheres
holy shit, is gonna be KT making a comeback?

>Nowhere to Hide (Talent) Now also passively reveals all enemy Heroes who are below 25% Health
Post yfw Illidan is now bloodseeker with a global teleport and stun

>>135971419
what the ass fuck?

>>135971216
Tychus is worthless anyway m8

Does Blizzard not understand that FUCKING AUTO ATTACKS DON'T MEAN SHIT IN THIS FUCKING META WITH LI MING AND XUL EVERYWHERE JESUS CHRIST?? Thanks for making Tychus even shittier.

New Heroic (R): Mind Control
After channeling for 1 second, gain control of an enemy Hero’s movement for 2.5 seconds
Dark Lady’s Call (Talent)
This Talent’s functionality has changed and now affects Mind Control
Now increases target’s Movement Speed by 100%

Is this fucking serious

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Kerrigan is finally viable, amazing changes!

>>135971782
>no GP

into the trash it goes

>>135971802
he always has been a knockoff Bloodseeker, anon

>>135971868
"benny hill theme starts playing"

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>>135971782
All he has to do is collect 25 regen globes now to get mana barrier from level 1. He's going to be op as fuck after this rework.

>>135971216

0 times anything is still 0, mate

Holy SHIT they actually made Possession good.

>>135971868
OP

>Fixed an issue that could cause Nova and Tychus to stand while mounted.

NO
FUN
ALLOWED

>>135972286
Will this work?

>malfurion/lil uses healing ult
>control him/her
>your team now gets healed

if this is true this will be fucking great.

What about Gazlowe, is he good now?

Holy shit from what I'm reading, illidan looks insane now. I'll have to see what his talent tree looks like as a whole, but goddamn he has some really good talents now. I legit wouldn't be surprised if he goes fotm.

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jesus christ

>>135971782
>throwing four flame strike in a row
This gonna be fun

>>135972476
>Sylv ults Malf
>aggros boss, activates Tranquility, dies

THE PLAYS

>that Illidan hunt upgrade

Ah yes, just like my dota bloodcykas.

>>135972658
oh shit
it's suddenly op as fuck

Looks like tychus will have more damage late game but will end up feeding more.

>>135972078
So KT gets

- baseline chain bomb
- level 1 he can start working towards arcane barrier
- more damage on Q

Meanwhile Jaina got fucked and lost all her defensives as a short range caster. I have no idea what they are thinking.

>>135973172
The arcane barrier and stacking flamestrike on on the same tier (level 1), so he can't get them both.

Dat chain bomb + pyromaniac tho.

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>>135971868
Finally

>still no Arthas rework

They really did forget about him didn't they?

I think I've literally never played a game without a Li-Ming in since she came out
most of the time there's 2

will this ever end

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>Jaina
>Bolt of the storm removed
>Ice block sent to 20 at lower duration and 1/3rd cooldown
So she was turned from fun flanking mage to literally worse KT. This is fucking bullshit, i was pissed off enough that they removed sprint. God fucking damnit.

>gazlowe got nerfed

>>135973685
who's Arthus?

>>135973685
Even if they do remember he will probably get the same treatment as kerrigan.
>>135971872

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What did they mean by this?

>>135973875
>they actually did it
THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>implying blizzard isn't secretly browsing /hotsg/

>>135973875
If you pick Robogoblin you can press R to make turrets attack a specific target

I assume it works like targetting with the Water Elemental or Ultralisk

Did they use lube for Jaina's asshole?

>Tychus
>Minigun (Trait) (D)
>No longer requires wind-up
>Activate to cause Basic Attacks against Heroes to deal bonus damage equal to 1.5% of the target’s maximum Health. Lasts 3 seconds. 12 second cooldown

Holy shit this is actually insane. iirc Tychus does like 6 attacks per second fully spinned up (which is always now), which means he can take ~30% of a hero's health without even factoring in aa damage. And that's on a 12 second cooldown.

>>135974303
Yeah and in half that second you will get blown up by li ming.
Enjoy doing 15% of a heroes health each life.

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>Sylvanas
>Splinter Shot talent removed

>>135971472
>jaina is now unplayable
what was the point of the nerfs to her?

>>135974581
the bronze is real

>Captain Blackheart will no longer skip numbers during the countdown at the start of a game.

Aw I liked that

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>Gazlowe bomb build got buffed

>>135973875
It actually works now.

>We wanted to make sure the drafting phase remained relatively quick and impactful

can't make this up

>>135974536
Then you can just press your fancy new activateable spell shield and live? Comparing dps heroes to burst heroes really isn't a relevant comparison in most situations, anyway.

What an update. I had given up hope they even worked on this game anymore.

>bolt of the storm removed from Jaina and KT
>li-ming gets a teleport every 4 seconds from level 1
>li-ming has the longest range

????

>vikings buffs
Y E S

I wasn't expecting big changes for Sylvanas, yet alone such a huge rework. She was pretty well balanced already (excluding Possession).

>>135974201

i volunteer to apply lube to jaina's fragrant flower

>blizzard reworked all my mains except tyrael and arthas

>>135975034

just buy li-ming goy. you want to compete, don't you?

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>The Hunt (R)
>Nowhere to Hide (Talent)
>Now also passively reveals all enemy Heroes who are below 25% Health
Sounds like they had to make him OP for Legion.

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>tihs PTR patch
hoyl shit, looks like this game is getting released soon

>>135975390
Not OP, but definitely fun for shitting around in QM.

>>135974848
Well reading his entire patch notes it looks like you'll be able to manfight tanks like stitches and leoric as long as you take the 100% lifesteal talent.
So he is a tank buster now, but he still doesn't have a place in current meta.

>>135975447
we're finally getting ready for open beta

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>The Hunt (R)
Nowhere to Hide (Talent)
Now also passively reveals all enemy Heroes who are below 25% Health


is it me or are this Illidan buffs fucking insane

>A dark smudge has been removed from the background art on the main loading screen.
What?

I never played illidan. Is he going to be op now?

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>>135975716
>senjinn's face when

>>135976015
cutest dick in all of /hotsg/

>Captain Blackheart will no longer skip numbers during the countdown at the start of a game.


best change inc

>>135950870
>fucking love angry elf man of jumps
>reading patchnotes for rework
>Shadow Shield (Talent) removed
>First Aid (Talent) removed
>Blood for Blood (Talent) removed
>Stoneskin (Talent) removed
>base HP increased by 200
>added lifesteal and lifesteal and lifesteal and damage
on a hero whose problem was being forced into purely defensive talents because he was getting blown up before he even starts doing damage.
and the hunt upgrade got buffed to reveal heroes under 25%life. thats fucking SICK and definitely won't be completely ignored because its not metamorphosis and its on the same tier as blink and FREE DAMAGE LMAO.
are the devs even awake?

>>135976265
worst, more like
drunk captain screwing up his numbers was amusing

So how will be Gazlowe with these changes?

>>135971472
Why would they do this? Jaina was perfectly balanced, why would they nerf her?

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¿Dehaka has no voice? wow really Blizzard I can understand the butcher he wasn’t of much words in his original incarnation and his Diablo 3 version was retarded, but with Dehaka is weird

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEZSrOwIfIE

>Tychus
>1% hp damage on trait
>1% hp damage as 20 talent
>3% hp damage while >40% hp as 4 talent
>5% hp damage on grenades
C9 fucking called it with their notank meta. 5% on your grenade and 5% for every goddamn auto attack.


>>135976001
He will be the best pub stomper by a mile. will probably compete with thrall for best melee assasin.

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>>135945276
>Cho (Slot unlocked at Player Level 12)
>Gall (Slot unlocked at Player Level 15)

>>135976565
They didn't want anyone playing Jaina, Only acceptable mages are Li-ming and Kael'thas

>>135972476
>>135972760
You can only control their movement, so you can move them away to waste their ult, but they won't join your team or give you access to their abilities

>AFK Detection
> Players who are not present at the start of a game will now be more quickly removed.
You guys don't understand how good this is in the bronzielands

>>135975080
not really a vikings buff, they buffed block across the board

>>135976461

come on now, anon. that playfulness was really confusing for the casual player.

the same casual player who found taunt to be a confusing mechanic in hearthstone.

on a related note, why does blizz pander so hard to retards? does their market research indicate people with a sub60 IQ spend more on their games?

>>135974303
meanwhile Li Ming does 100% of most heroes' HP in less than 3 casts.

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>>135977098
But what happens to channeled skills that are active already like Tranq and 1K cups. will they still work for the enemy team, or for your team?

>>135977154
not a buff exclusive to the vikings, but a vikings buff nontheless

>>135976941
I mean, i get that having a hero with both ice block and bolt was a bit weird, but now she has no survivability whatsoever until level 20. This is just needlessly rough

>>135977294
On the enemy team of course, dumbass

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>new main menu music

>those illidan changes

finally, the best hero in hots and the best player on this general gets to dominate with his favorite hero

All the shitters will be back on Illidan 24/7 like it used to be. Not sure if want.

>>135977162
>cater to larger audience
>most people are retards
>cater to retards
>make money
?

>Marked for the kill "buffs"
>G4tT is still way better

>>135976640
The heroes nexus guys fucked up, he actually speaks ingame

>>135977294
>New Heroic (R): Mind Control
>After channeling for 1 second, gain control of an enemy Hero’s movement for 2.5 seconds
Despite the ability's name, you will only be able to make your target move around wherever you want, so i'm almost 100% sure that those abilities will still benefit the enemy team

>>135977739
Look at the good side anon they dind't nerf g4tt.

>chain bomb removed
>also can't instantly explode living bomb anymore with sphere

that's it

i'm fucking done

what the fuck am i meant to be using flame strike 24/7?

>possession was so bad they just made it a normal talent
how was that abortion of an ult in the game for so long?

>>135977951
They removed chain bomb because they made it baseline m8

>>135977951
You get chain bomb passively from level 1

>>135971872
>See Kerrigan on the list
>My mind gets excited and my dick gets hard
>read the """"""""Buffs"""""""

Feels bad man

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>>135978154
>>135978161

>mfw

patch on live when

>>135977647
Not if xul is in every game shitting on aa heroes.

>>135978248
Just be glad she wasn't nerfed, unlike jaina

>>135977108

not really, I am often one of these people.

I am not 10 years behind the curve so I actually own an SSD. HotS is installed on it. I am often waiting several minutes for people to load this game because they are poor and/or useless. Now I have to stare at loading screen or get kicked instantly. What the fuck is that about? Who fucking cares if I am not there for the first minute?

>Sending Whisper messages to another player should no longer result in an “INVALID” error message.
Best fix coming in.

It was too fun to make plays with bolt, so they needed to remove it from Jaina and give her absolutely nothing to protect her short range casting until level 20 when she stuns herself for 2.5 seconds.

>>135977647
>>135977565

>global hunt with map hack built in
>this insane burst he will have
>this insane self healing he will have

just fuck every assassin up senpai

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>Cast Possession
>Sylvanas starts to sing Lament of the Highborne

This is great.

what was blizzard thinking with this gazlowe remake

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>we're finally getting everything that should have been in the game before release

>>135979229

itsfuckingnothing.jpg

>>135979421
Release?
We are still in beta

>illidan with unending hatred, blades of azzinoth and demonic form does 1k dps
>sweeping gives you 25% armor, 60% lifesteal if you talent into it
sonyas, thralls and butchers beware, memes are fully engaged

>>135979229
Probably they think they gave him more build options. Those changes only sound good in theory tho.

>>135979509
Its a lot easier to pull off a gravobomb combo now

Also, Robo goblin + slow turrets is legit in team fights

>>135979551
I don't have the madara Uchina pasta but:

>Is there anyone that can kill Illidan? I'm talking about Illidan with unending hatread, blades of azzinoth, demonic form, a stimdrone and being healed by Lt Morales

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>>135980291
>Whilst having an Abathur sat on his face who is specced into Adrenal Overload

>>135980640
I know it was a typo but
>Having abathur sitting on your face

>>135980640
And Tassadar shield

>>135980730
>sequence spinning intensifies

>>135980291
>>135980817
So the ultimate meme team will be:

Illidan
Abathur
Moralez
Tassadar
??????

>>135981559
ETC?

>>135981559
you might want a tank

>>135964582
>>135965628
Same at 4.1

>>135980291
I'd make it but I didn't play WoW so I'd probably miss some powerups.

>>135964582
2k2 is basically toddlers desu

>>135971216
You're going to be overjoyed when you find out how wrong you are.

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These changes wont all make it into the live version of the game right? Unlike all that dumb shit on public test realm the game as it is generally feels good but the changes to jaina piss me off.

I was fine with illidan i dont see why fix something if it isnt broke.

Jaina though.. i bought her chinese skin like a week ago.. Why do this? If those become her new normal then i won't be able to play jaina anymore, she is my favorite mage character and i enjoy playing and winning games with her i actually get enjoyment out of playing jaina.

>bolting
>play making
>slowing
>freezing/stunning
>chasing
>killing
>baiting
>running

She's just so cool man.

>>135981947
Good riddance.
Ching Chong Ming next please.

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Who /quest/ here?