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Learn to CADC Edition

Previous Thread: >>135835805

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/5aUvHT7j

>What is Pokken Tournament?
Pokken Tournament is a game made by Namco Bandai that is a blend of Tekken and action-fighting games like the Naruto Shippuden series made by the same developer.


>So what are the basics?
You have three basic attack buttons: Weak, Strong, and Pokemon Attack.
Using certain button combinations you can use Counter Attacks or Grabs which can counter attack moves or grab a blocking/shielding opponent respectively.
These form a triangle:
Counters beat Basic Attacks, Grabs beat Counters, and Basic Attacks beat Grabs. Guarding protects against everything but grabs, but certain attacks will do a small amount of damage even through guard.
In Field Mode your weak attacks are typically projectiles and strong attacks are typically melee attacks that track/home. In Duel Mode, weak attacks and strong attacks are both typically melee and not tracking.


>Field Mode and Duel Mode? What is this?
Field Mode is the initial stage of combat where you may move your pokemon freely, and Duel Mode is the second stage of combat that is more akin to other fighting games where you fight on a 2D playing field. Doing enough damage, using certain attacks, or grabbing your opponent will shift play between these different combat stages.


>How do I play online? What is a VS code?
After completing the initial menu tutorial and picking a partner pokemon, pick Online Battle from the main menu / world map.
VS codes are basically passwords.


>I have the game and this chick's voice is making my ears hurt
Luckily for you, Japanese voices are a menu option.


>What are some resources I can check out?
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/pokemon.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/modes.shtml
http://www.serebii.net/pokken/
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pokken+tournament+tutorial
http://kuroganehammer.com/Pokken
http://pastebin.com/5aUvHT7j


>OP Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/kTLxTp9F
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STATS AFFECTING RANKED CONFIRMED:

http://pokkenarena.boards.net/thread/827/points-possibly-affecting-online-ranked
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Anyone playing?
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Champ time
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>when the burst attack leaves them with 5hp
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Let's start a VS code
Does "vgptg" sound good?
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>>135892374
Sounds good to me. Lets put it in the next OP if the next maker remembers
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>constipated
>playin ranked matches on the toilet

I love the gamepad.
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>>135892287
>Some faggot posted this thing on Reddit!
Literally no one else is checking this out. Why is everyone taking this one guys word?
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>play close-range against zoner
>tellur town (autumn)
kill me now
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>>135892287
>still no proof
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So who are the most and least played Pokemon? I always like to play the least played characters in Fighting Games and master them so I can be a special snowflake
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thick braixen please
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dead thread, dead game, dead competition
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Battle stage: Magikarp Festival
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whats everybodys favorite meme
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>>135892530
Well I guess that's one good thing about losing it will make you shit your pants in rage.
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>>135892784
>wanting to be hipster garbage
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>>135893086
zoners other than suicune being good
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>>135893086
Tier
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>>135893086
Libre being OP
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so suicune is the best character in the game right? I know this because I saw a shofu vid where he fought a suicune and didn't block anything
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>>135893086
chandelure's laser catching you right as you try to jump
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>>135893086
Tierfags and Waifufags
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So, it's known that Pikachu has a mechanic similar to EWGF, but Libre has that as well.
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I can't get past the unresponsive-y feeling of button combinations. When the combo instructions say "X.X" is there a delay between the button presses, or is the second button press supposed to be immediate?
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>>135892916
What is this supposed to represent?
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that suicune champ is on the sfv pro tour now
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Diglett is just so fascinating.
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What's the coolest Burst Attack?
Hardmode: No PikaLibre
What's the best victory animation?
What's the best intro animation?
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>>135893086
Tiers don't exist and will never exist
Karenfags, so to speak
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Reminder to check out the movelist for your character, you could learn something you didn't know. I didn't know about most of Weavile's counter pierces or that the dive kick could be angled.
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>>135894094
>What's the coolest Burst Attack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzHE5q1NGa4
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>>135894094
>Hardmode: No PikaLibre
C'mon man.
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>>135893704
Basically, forget everything you know about fightan inputs. Nothing really gets picky or difficult with timing, so just hitting X again after the first attack from hitting X is done will do it.
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>>135894330
>forget everything you know about fightan inputs
fuck. This and holding back while in duel phase is fucking me pretty hard.
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>>135894094
Machamp no stando
Weavile camera grab or Machamp pushups
Braixen fixing its' hair
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>>135894240
Where's this from?
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Just beat the final final league and was messing around with new clothes. R8?

Also post trainers.
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>>135893793
who
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>>135894535
>anon has never done free training
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>>135894094
Tie between Mewtwo's stupid fucking anime-tier PEIRCE THE HEAVENS bullshit or Machamp's ORAORAORA.
Gengar swimming around in the ground is best victory animaton, it's so goddamn smug.
Weavile grabbing the camera.
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Why are there no gengar mains? And how do you get good with a character that doesn't win by button mash like gengar????
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>>135894604
I see you're buying Moon Version
An excellent choice.
*tips fedora*
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>>135895047
use shadow ball lots and then Mega Gengar one shots everything
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>>135894752
Just tell me where I can find the movelist
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>>135895047
His whole game is poking and waiting for burst mode in my experience.
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>>135895269
Just press start, jesus.
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>fight 2 Chandelure and braixen players both with over 80% W/L
>mfw I can CADC and combo properly
>tfw I can literally see them panic mashing counters and overheat when thier "plan" isin't working

Based pika
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>>135892307
IS
ANYONE
PLAYING
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Trying to compile a character archtype list, help me out anons, I don't play every character

Zoners:
Braix
Suicune
Chandy
Gardevoir

Zone Breakers:
Pikalibre
Garchomp
Mewtwo
Bait and Punish:
Charizard
Machamp
Blazekin


Thats all I have for now, based on what i see online and who I play, only done 34 matches though so its definitely not perfect
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How was the Pokken tournament at Final Round?
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>>135895795
I am
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>play chandy in single player
>mash A
>now have shadow mewtwo and mewtwo

The AI in this game sucks, holy shit.
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>>135894604
>lonely one
>that mask
>that cape
>black
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>>135895959
GOOD
PASSWORD IS PTG01
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Well I just maxed out Braixen's level and I'm getting used to playing as her now. Though I still get chain locked sometimes. I'm going to try out Weavile again. Hopefully it works.
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>>135895837
jap suicune wins lol
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>>135895837
the japanese suicune go1 won
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Guys I want to gift someone Pokken but I don't have a Wii U atm, can I get european e-shop cards online anywhere or am I better off buying them in stores?
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>>135895837
fine but it seemed like some of them didn't really know what they where doing
Pikachu and Weavile went far because they have good counters and combos but Suicune took it because people can't stop spam
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>>135895837
A japanese dude (go1) who plays games that aren't trash took it free despite having played it for maybe all of five seconds
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Anyone have a VOD of the stream or any Suicune tips of their own? I'd like to play a zoner but I feel like Braixen just isn't going to cut it at higher level play.
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What are Machamp combos

Every launcher he has isn't a combo (even though his light launcher is a follow up from two lights???) so he can be mashed out of them
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>>135895256
>>135895270
I want to main him but I suck so damn bad. Is anybody up for one Gengar mirror match?
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>>135894604
Okay.

No, /ptg/ isn't my name, I just set it to that for the shot
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>>135892916
>Battle Stage: Neos City
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>>135896540
he isn't very hard just synergy focus and roll them into a wall then use your burst and win
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So what exactly does garchomp's high stance do? Is it just super armour or can you crit using it?
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>>135896539
go look in the combo tutorial
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>>135894604
Everyone screaming Asriel in the Twitch Plays stream was extremely satisfying.
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Who's your main in
Pokken
Smash
Street fighter
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>>135896720
I did, they're all shitty "launcher->midair Y" corner combos, and one of them even suggest to use Back X->X even though it doesn't combo.
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>>135897167
>Libre
>Ryu
>Depends on the game, but if we're talking 5 it's a mixup between Ken and Ryu
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Holy shit, this game is infuriating. EVERYTHING in this game feels unsafe! You can't ever attack because everyone is always constantly blocking forever or countering! The second you go in for a grab, that's when they throw out their attacks. There's no such thing as a neutral game for you to gather yourself and test things out, because everything is constantly shitting out ridiculous amounts of damage! It's completely bonkers!
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>>135897167
>Pokkén
Gengar, but I like Machamp too
>Smash
lol
>Street Fighter
Laura until DLC drops
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>>135897167
Libre
Peach (melee)
Cammy (five)
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>when they use latios in field phase
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>>135897359
>EVERYTHING in this game feels unsafe!

Solution: pick weavile/pika
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>>135897359
just wait for them to whiff their attacks instead
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>>135897454
>When they use Fennekin in the Field phase
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>>135896478
>who plays games that aren't trash
he is literally known as the poverty god when he comes over here because he plays a bunch of kusoge
His showing in SFV was impressive tho
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>>135896540
If you still want to gengar mirrior match I'm game. Need some practice with him anyways. What VS code do you want if you're still up for it
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I get my ass fucked 1000 times over against nacho libre every fucking time, even against CPUs, how do I git gud against these never ending combo faggots?
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>>135897608
Not sure how that helps....
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>>135897167
Braixen
Puff
I don't play street fighter
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>>135897676
He plays games that are trash too (as proven by his showing in Pokken) but he is more than capable in plenty of games that aren't
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>>135894604
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>>135897167
Libre
Luigi
Blanka, haven't touched SF since 2.
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>>135897167
>Gengar
>Captain Falcon
I guessing you mean sfv
>Vega
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>>135897167
Charizard
Charizard
Guile
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If some of you care about tiers so much how come you just don't check the leaderboards everyday and come to a conclusion from there?
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Need combo videos starring my green nigga
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POST EM
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>>135897167
>Chanelure
>Fox
>Akuma
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>>135897167
Charizard
Samus
Elena/Laura

They all have radically different playstyles, but I love them like my children.
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How much do the skill points matter? Trying to figure out if I should be dumping entirely into attack or have everything be even.
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>>135897167
Garchomp
Villager
Mika
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>>135892871
This.

Dumb game, really, and it was doomed from the start.
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>>135897678
yeah let's do it but i'm not sure how vs codes work
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>>135897167
Garchomp
Pac-Meme
Bison
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>>135897167
Braixen
Sonic
Don't play Street Fighter
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>>135898202
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is this game kusoge?
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how are you supposed to beat Shadow Mewtwo
it basically supers for free on round three and I get left with less than half health as I have to chip away at his 3k
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>>135898493
Go to friendly match and enter the code in the box
I'll be using 71716 for the code becuase I can't come up with anything better
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>So many people online with shit connection causing the game to jank up
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What are the baby-tier things you need to know
CADC, of course, but anything else?
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>>135898819
Shield the burst, nigga.
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>>135897167
Lucario
Ganon
Bison,Ken,Gief
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>>135898754
absolutely
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>>135897167
Gardevoir
Luigi
don't play
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>>135898819
Use the Jirachi support on R3
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>>135898863
Matchups
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>>135898923
what is not kusoge?
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>>135892287
The fact that people aren't sure whether or not stats affect online shows how little they actually matter.

If they do affect it, then it clearly makes no difference.
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>>135898863
Going in high stance in duel phase does different shit for different characters, i.e slowly generates meter, slowly regenerates health, Machamp and Garchomp ignore weak attacks in high stance, etc

Most characters low stance weak attacks are plus a billion on block or hit so low weak into grab works a hell of a lot online

Ending a combo in the corner bounces your opponent off the wall back to midscreen but generates a fuckton of meter for you and does 30 damage to them.
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>>135897167
Machamp

Bowser

Birdie
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>>135886846
>plebbitors being retarded and cowardly as usual
Nothing to see here.
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>Slow as fuck
>Projectile fighter
>Tries to jump between being a 2D fighter and an arena fighter but lacks most of what makes either good
>No neutral whatsoever
>No sense of mix-ups
>Block button
>Already dead in arcades
Music's good though
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http://strawpoll.me/7140358
http://strawpoll.me/7140358
http://strawpoll.me/7140358
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>>135899383
>chomp

Really? Chomp hasn't given me trouble at all.

I'm surprised Suicune, Braixen or Chandy aren't on this list.
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>>135899383
>made a most annoying character poll without Chandelure or Suicune
nigga you fucked up
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Finally got ma boi to lvl100. Thinking of trying out either Machamp or Pikalibre. Machamp because he looks fun as fuck, Libre because was originally planning on him being muh secondary. But which will give me the edge in ranked? Been getting absolutely destroyed on there all day.
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>>135899345
Only 2 of these are true.
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>>135899649
Libre if you wanna win

Machamp if you wanna flex
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>>135899649
>putting SP in anything but attack
top jej
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>>135897167
Duck Hunt

Chandelure

Karas & Roll
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>>135899649
Libre is really, really good, so probably him.
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>>135897167
Blaziken
Ike
Ken/Ibuki
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>>135899649
Machamp's fundamentally flawed, a fraction of the cast can low profile his counter attack so you're forced to come up with some esoteric strategy around the RPS system.
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What is S.Mewtwos eye thing supposed to do? The back A
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>>135899856
I feel like something cool could be done by maxing support
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>>135899809
>>135899865
Alright, Lucha time it is.

>>135899856
Don't stats only affect offline?
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>>135898825
damn got destroyed tell me when you want to stop
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Gengar mains? Tips? I'm just about to pick up the game and I plan to main Gengar unless I really dislike his playstyle. Any BnB combos, basic knowledge, etc. that I should know?
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>>135900136
Stats affect offline, and single player if you don't disable them.
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>>135900136
They don't affect online, they only affect local when you turn them on and single player.
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>>135899968
>free training
>pause menu
>move list
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>>135898202
Shout me out if y'all ran into me. I would have had a MUCH better W/L but I hopped straight online day 1 midnight and I was fighting people who had the game early.
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>>135900136
>Don't stats only affect offline?
jury is still in session on this issue but it seems like stats do affect online play, although it is miniscule. We're talking only +7 points of damage with attack utterly maxed
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>>135898007
>Smash charizard
muh nigguh
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>>135900345
I did. All it says is it "changes properties"
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>>135900262
>>135900336
>>135900423
Ah, okay then. What kind of stats should I be looking into Pikalibre then? And do any specific assist help him in particular? Still trying to figure out how to incorporate them properly.
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>>135900576
It doesn't matter at all and you can respec them at your convenience. Just put them all into attack.
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>>135900205
Thanks for the fun matches but I need to go. GGs dude
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>>135900692
Alright, guess I'm going all out. Cheers anon.
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Will we end up like /ssbg/, /mk8g/, and /ink/ with all of there name fagging?
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>>135897167
Machamp
Kirby
Karin
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>>135901430
Unfortunately, It's pretty likely.
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>>135897167
Gengar
Jiggly in melee/Ryu in 4
Laura
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>>135901430
Eh, the worst that could happen to /ptg/ is it gets /ink/'s level of waifufagging
Luckily, this isn't /vp/ so the Gardfags won't infest the place.
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>>135897167
>don't have it yet but I'd play mewtwo
>Melee: Fox and Falco (Marth for matches I don't like)
>ssbb: meta knight
>ssb4: mario
>Ken and Ibuki
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>>135901430
I thought /ink/ stayed away from all the namefagging?
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>When you curbstomp somone round 1 in a mirror match and they disconnect
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This general would be more popular if the game had more waifus.

Lopunny DLC will save /ptg/.
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>nothing but spammy faggots today
>these randoms literally do nothing but spam to win now
I love this game, but if this is what it has already come to, I'm gonna start getting bored fast. I've already started having to spam just for my wins now and it sucks. No idea how fags can have fun like this, it's so mindless
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>>135897167
Most likely Blaziken, getting the game soon
R.O.B.
If I played it, then I'd SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN SHORYUKEN
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So I did the spinning diagonally into the air attack as Garchomp by doing Counter attack and then trying for a grab right away.

How the hell do you do this move on the fly? The training mode only mentions holding X for 50 years.
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>>135903192
reminder that kids probably play this game too
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>>135903417
you doublemap
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>>135903417
Hold X rather than tap it when comboing, then release it when you need to.
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i-is it wise to wait evo before dropping money on this? I don't waste money buying a casual game with no future
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where are you nerds all playing right now
sick of pubs
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>>135897167
Pokken: Don't have it yet, but gonna try out Shadow Mewtwo as soon as possible.
Smash: Mewtwo.
SF: Necalli.
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>>135904037
>>135892374
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>>135903174
Fuck off furfag I already have my hands full with libre and Braixen

Although this thing would be actually a decent pick since it uses some fighting moves
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>>135897167
Mewtwo
Mewtwo
dont play SF, no mewtwo
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>>135897167
Street Fighter is dead
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>>135903192
>ranked online
>C bracket
>literally filled to the brim with suicune,braixen and chandelure
>all have 80+ w/l from fighting people who can't deal with that shit
>have to slog through their tactic but convincingly beat them
>after a few wins just shut the game off

I feel ya. Its not fun and it makes me mad that the only reason I don't have a high W/L and a higher rank was because I picked a non stupid pokemon.
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so does this game have any footsies or is it all RPS?
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>>135903978
It's gonna have a future, TPCi is gonna push it as hard as they want.

Kind of like Smash, they'll force it into every FGC event. Honestly it's looking like it'll do okay so far.

It's really on you if you want to drop the cash on it or not.
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>>135897167
Either Braixen or Garchomp
Cloud, Ike
SF is dum
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>>135904870
Not really. Some characters have something similar but it really just string pressure,zoning,AAs,Punishes and RPS
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What does /ptg/ listen to when tearing it up with your main?
Pic related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzPHzIAlhKE
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>>135904870
In Field Phase there's not really any footsies.

In Duel Phase I get away with playing footsies a lot more. It's more projectile based than most fighters for sure, but nothing awful.
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>>135899649
>Him

Pikalibre is the only character in the game 100% confirmed to be female.
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>>135905183
Ultra Miami 2016

when that's over I dunno, probably the game soundtrack since I like it
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFjE5A4UAJI
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So what's the verdict on the Mewtwo's? I've heard some people say they have potential, and others say they both suck because of their gauge consumption.
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>>135904825
It's almost as if a good chunk of pokken's playerbase transitioned from another spamfest.
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>>135905183
YEAH YEAH OOOOOH OOOH
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>>135905113
I like the mental aspect of it, field phase is almost entirely "THE ATTACK TRIANGLE" and CADC then dual mode is footsies until you land a hit, then its how hard you can combo
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUkSi6TFrPE

Or anything really energetic really. Gets me pumped up and shit.
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>>135905018
what's tcpi?
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3soskkvYBgM
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>>135905584
Pokemon Company
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>>135905584
You must be 18 or older to post on this site.
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzUHaRsxFzg
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So what kind of playstyle is Chomp?

He looks really cool, but I don't know what he's supposed to be.
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>>135892137
Does CADC really defeat zoning this hard or something?

>>135903192
>>135904825
Spamming projectile is pretty much how zoning work. You gotta deal with it.
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo
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>>135906072
See >>135905864

He's the Brock Lesnar of Pokken.
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>>135905246
>>135905542
I don't feel like dual mode footsies are really footsies. There is no spacing with normals, There is not much hit confirming especially with that gay ass lag and buffer and limbs don't have special properties like upper body/lower body invul it all ties to the RPS. You can make it work though. Me coming from a traditional fighter background lets me apply some of the tactics.


>>135905397
The sad thing is link is not even good but the pokemon I listed are all decent.
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What does miracle eye do besides drain some of your own HP?
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>>135905183
>Tree Raptor
>XCX
Are you LITERALLY me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwebAhgpnxw
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>>135906373
No, it's not really footsies at all. I come from SF as well, and you can't really play SF footsies like you can Pokken footsies.

It's really the closest thing you have to footsies, you're right that you can make it work though. There's no poking with normals, but just kind of walking back and forth and feeling eachother's range is a good idea.
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>>135906407
It changes certain projectiles but I'm not sure which fully yet. I know Side Y in field phase is one of them, turns them into barriers.
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>>135904346
but nobody's playing
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>>135906407
afaik it changes side y into barriers in field phase and expands the pillar of forward y in duel phase
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>>135906640
Exactly. Same here. SF and KoF background but I'm a fan of pokemon.

>>135906204
>Spamming projectile is pretty much how zoning work. You gotta deal with it.

You don't know what zoning means.
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>>135906801
yes there is
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4vJn0IikkQ
For the Egyptian feeling.
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>>135906871
How can they zone beside using a lot of projectiles?
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4FrQBxLwTM
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>>135906571
ahahaha, good taste nigga.
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>people that do nothing but block as soon as you activate synergy mode

free grabs for days
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>>135906979
Long range pokes.
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>>135907110
What?
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Should we have a general vs code that we use for matchmaking on here?

Like just /ptg/ or something?
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>>135907198
see
>>135892374
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>>135907170
Normals that have good frames and long range.
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>>135907271
not him but do we just do anyone, vs code, vgptg?
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>>135907170
Any character with a gameplan focusing on keeping the opponent in a certain range is zoning.
Claw Vega is a zoner but doesn't have projectiles for exemple.
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5dSw_VHz9M
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Pokken's biggest mistake was not enabling gc controller support.
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>>135907426
yeah
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>>135906979
Each projectile has properties weaknesses and advantages. Zoning is basically keeping the opponents at bay using keeping those properties in mind. Just throwing shit out is predictable and only works on people that don't know what they are doing. It makes you predictable and easy to punish. I literally won games with pika's air X in field mode from people who just spam shit.

>>135907110
Ignore this guy
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>>135907426
yeah
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>>135907480
>Ignore this guy

You can ignore me lol I just saw >>135907431 it doesn't apply to pokken but its correct.
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>Styling on someone during their rankup match
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What's a good support to use with Machamp?
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>>135907431
Yeah, but characters who rely on projectile for zoning has to spam those projectile.
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hey traditional fighters players do you like the game? Be honest
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>>135907436
>Zinogre
Good taste my man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMFuH9Uh_Yk
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>>135907952
Diglet.
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>>135907431
>Claw Vega is a zoner, but he has no projectiles

Y'know, I never thought of this.
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>>135908129
no
but i haven't liked a fighting game since vsav came out
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>that fucking ass rape-age in my first match
Oh my, i really need to learn how to deal with chandelure's flames
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So how do friendly lobbies work? You can make a vs code with the "anyone" option and anyone can hop into that room and face each other randomly?
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>>135904870
>so does this game have any footsies

Absolutely. Fiield mode weavile depends on them, and septile does in general
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How do I git gud with Lucario, any specific imputs I should be looking to use more often than others?
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To the guy using the VS code with the grovile, gengare, and chandelure, thanks for the fun matches my man
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>>135907972
Not especially. Spamming would imply you're just throwing them nilly willy with no adaptation whatsoever, like a Fire Blast spamming Braixen who completely falls apart the second someone focus attack through it, while other would try to spice it up with anti airs / air to air or even baiting punishes with the broom air dashes. Chandelure has her own long limbs and ranged command grab for mid-range pressure, Suicune has the ice wall for shielding and okizeme etc.

Spamming only sorta works at a certain level but you can't really just roll your head on the gamepad and expect it to work against competent players.
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SHADOW NIGGER IS FUCKING CHEAP ASS CHARACTER WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD FUCKING CHOICE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Quick, post Lucha combos
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>>135908513
>first match was vs Chandulure
I'm so sorry
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>>135908626
Inputs? Well, there is the big button on the Wii U that looks like a C with a dash in the middle of it.
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>2 hours of playing with friends and we give it a 5/10

probably will return it soon
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>mfw the AI has no idea how to deal with Fire Blast so I blew through the story mode in sanic speed

Even Shadow Mewtwo was a chump, if only I'd realized sooner.
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>>135908786
I would tell you that counters do half his health but I'm going to assume you knew that already
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Is it just me, or is Charizard absolutely fucking atrocious?
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>>135909060
Oh trust me anon I know
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>>135909243
Atrocious to play as or against?
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>>135908626
Away and Y is good in field phase. It's a counter and it knocks down your opponent when you get into Duel Phase. Giving you the upper hand.
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>>135893086
tierlists litterally don't matter
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>>135909025
This, but I only use it as a last resort if things are getting hairy.
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>>135908715
Same. I was mostly just trying to learn the gengar and sceptile, but Braixen is a bitch to fight when the ranged options aren't any good. Guess I'll be heading back to the lab to rerun through Sceptiles moves at least. I couldn't remember some of his moves like detect.
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>>135908731
Maybe, Most of the time as Gardevoir I often use Beam/Calm Mind > Psychic in duel phase and in field phase magical leaf and the triple-disk attack thing. But it's quite obvious I need to be less mindless against people who actually has a clue on how to deal with it.
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>>135904393
>I already have my hands full with libre and Braixen
Then just use your feet, go all in on that sucker.
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>when you mistime a combo and lose to your opponent's retaliation

Imma get gud one day
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>>135909317

Do you seriously have to ask?
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Pikachu libre bnbs where
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Can I replay Green League to refight Dark Mewtwo?
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Whats some good tactics for mewtwo? I just picked him up
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>>135909898
No but once you beat the game you can redo the final fight.
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RlSgnpLbro


Shit taste inc
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>>135908790
I didn't make this but the anon who did is a real pal :)

yyy down A
(enhanced) yyyy down A
forward xx forward y back A

Your air X is amazing both in and out of field mode

Agility goes through projectiles. Quick attack goes through projectiles excepting a bit at the beginning and end of the move

Pressure hard with Libre's fast normals and big damage off of hitconfirms and when they start trying to counter or block start tick throwing or using the net command grab (back A).

You can use the net command grab in field mode with down A, it's great for when you've gotten people to respect your dive kick and quick attack in field mode.

Down A in duel phase is armored, so if someone is trying to constantly pressure you with attacks that leave them out of your punish range throw out the stunner.
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>>135910075
This is the shit I'd use if Absol made it into the game.

Goddamn it.
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>>135897167
>all these retards that only play Smash

free wins
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>>135910353
is it better or worse if Pokken is my first fighting game
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>>135910353
please go easy on me anon, this is my first fighting game other than smash
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>>135895047
can't remember name of supplier pokemon, but pick the one that gives you health + synergy boost, since you have lower hp than other pokemons and your synergy is op and your main advantage..
b+a+a (hold second a down for a little, if your opponent is shielding), followed by down a, side a or grab works pretty fine imo.
Also, you should def. get good at grabbing your opponent every time you have the chance due to the hp regen + synergy boost
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>>135897167
Machamp
Melee Luigi, Sm4sh Meta Knight
Zangief
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>have no idea what other supports do besides fenniken
>everybodys counter looks different so i never know whats what

stupid game
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thanks for ripping me a new anus with braixen again
I will never get the hang of fucking projectiles
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>>135910481
Frankly it implies to me that you only commit to genres if they have a Nintendo brand attached to it, but I'll give benefit of the doubt.
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>>135910075
>Blaziken
>Best MGR song
Based.
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>tfw notorious mhg powersavers play this game
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>win record is 13%
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>>135909698
Touché furfag
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWQvBwkpXsQ
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What Gen 2 Pokémon would you want to see in Pokken? Suicune is the only one right now.
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>>135910821
now that's an old meme I haven't seen in a while
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>>135911035
ampharos I guess but it seems too similar to pikachu
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>>135911035
Scizor would be pretty good.
Or Heracross.
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>>135911035
Heracross obviously.
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>>135911035
I always thought the lack of Scizor was a huge oversight, I figured it's universally popular and there's no bug types...
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>>135911035
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>>135911180
heh...just messing good sets.
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>>135911035
Scizor or Crobat
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>>135911035
Usaring
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>only two other people playing with the vgptg vs code
Okay
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>>135911726
people are probably nervous about fighting people from the general, or they just don't want to
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So other then here are there good places to discuss pokken? An actual forum that has permanent posts is helpful for indexs of info about characters.

>>135911035
Ursaring, tyranitar, heracross, and scizor would all work, but i'd rather scyther then scizor.
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FINALLY BEAT THIS BULLY GARDEVOIR

and controller died, done for the night I think
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>>135911035
1 doesn't need anymore, *maybe* Mew
2 needs Ampharos, Chikorita, Heracross
3 needs Crawdaunt, Deoxys
4 needs Electivire, Infernape
5 needs Scolipede, Snivy
6 needs Greninja, Barbaracle, Tyrantrum
7 needs Magearna, something else
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>>135911726
the last time I tried it I only ran into someone after like 15 minutes of sitting around on my ass waiting
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>>135911726
I'm gonna go grab some food and then I'll see who's playing.
>>
i've got a night shift to work in about 30 minutes
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>>135911726
nobody's playing, i just checked

nobody's ever playing
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>>135912114
There were two people, a mostly free chandelure that suddenly got a lot better the third time we played and a pretty good shadow mewtwo who suddenly got a lot WORSE the second time we played
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>>135912114
i'd play if other people play, even if they kick my shit in.
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>>135912114
i got into a match in 5 seconds about 15 minutes ago
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>>135911726
There's a known spammer browsing this thread and I want to at least have some semi-enjoyable games.
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>>135911035
Ariados, to fill the trap/technical role.
Skarmory, to fill the speed role.
And Ursaring, to fill the savage as fuck BEAR role.
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>Skip the past couple of Pokemon generations
>See Braxien
Holy jesus those thighs.
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>>135912410
i'd take pangoro more
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>>135912368
What did they play
And why can't you deal with spam
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>>135912410
>And Ursaring, to fill the savage as fuck BEAR role.
>not Typhlosion
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>>135912410
Nice base 70 speed metal bird for speed class
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is calling braixen braxien an official ptg meme?
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>>135912671
It's genwunners
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>>135911035
my nigga not being in this shit is the only disappointment i got
>>
nice shitty suicune
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>>135912671
Only one person did it
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That was a fun match Lucario.
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im bout to hop on the ptg VS code

look for your boy AllBlue
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hey guys, whats the main forum for this game?
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>>135912656
Like Pokken is accurate to the main-line games yeah? I just want a good flying type in damn it. Charizard isn't giving me muh fix. Picturing the kind of combos Skarmory could pull off is just too damn sweet.
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Yo Blaziken's stances do block some projectiles like pika's thundershocked
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>>135913036
reddit ofc
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>>135912671
Everytime I hear someone pronounce it as Brazien it feels weird.
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>>135913036
neogaf
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>>135912671
My roommate does this and it's driving me crazy
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Are we searching vgptg or ptg for matches?

I'm about to hop in a lil bit with my Chimp
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Why the fuck is Braixen's L+R super attack so weak?
I just had a Lucario down to like 40hp or something and he had 13 after the attack.
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>>135912410
>Ursaring, to fill the savage as fuck BEAR role
>Not wanting based Banchou Bear instead
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>>135913197
>>135913243
seriously though,
>street fighter has srk
>kof has orochigami
>gg and bb have dustloop
>pokken has ?
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>>135912630
>Typhlosion
>bear
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>>135913465
she's just performing anon, don't make her sad pointing out her shit dmg output
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>>135913556
google
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>>135913556
LITERALLY 3 days old
>>
Braixen is the literal embodiment of cancer.
>>
Anyone know combos for my man gengar? I'll post one I know

[start in duel phase] Forward Y.X. Jump towards Y. high stance Y. Jump Y.A (press A on the same jump while still in mid air)
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>>135913856
That's an odd way of spelling Suicune
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>"So, how are you feeling after that battle?"
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>>135913856
braixen is really not that bad to deal with. her "cancer" spams have so many obvious tells that can be punished
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>>135913856
i'm so sorry anon I just didn't want to die at 1 hp
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>>135913950
I had to turn off the voices just because of that. Losing in itself doesn't make me angry, but the game immediately asking me how I feel about losing is fucking infuriating
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FINALLY FIGURED OUT WHAT THE LINGERING SMOKE FROM CHANDY'S SMOG DOES.

It explodes if your enemy hits it with a counter, giving them defence down and knocking them back.
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TheVS code is vgptg right? Nobody using it or...?
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>pikachu
>lucario
>r pika
>lucario
>pikachu
holy shit just let me get to c5 and keep my shitty 60% winrate please
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>>135914251
I'm not sure if it's the code other people are using, but I just went in with it.
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>>135913856
Someone sounds upset
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>>135914436
I am.
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>>135914251
I just got a match from it so there are others on it
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>>135897167
>Pokken
Gengar
>Smash
Ike (4) Ganon (Melee)
>Street fighter
Ryu

I'm really all over the place when it comes to character types.
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>lucario burst attacks
>hit mine right after
>mine pulls him out of his and KO's him
>"Your opponent has disconnected"
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Kicken Chicken is here
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>round starts
>dude starts walling right off the bat
>some how at 1 hp and get an opening to do something
>instantly turn it around
>win

Think I should really stop playing tonight and end it on this high note
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>>135915030
meant to reply to>>135914251
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>>135913896
I'm havin' a hard time wrappin' my head around this one. Is there a video of it?
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>75% win rate with weavile
have you just never faced gardevoir before?
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Post Chandies
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How would you rank the characters from good to bad?
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>>135915510
good - all of them
bad -
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ggs blaziken bro
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>>135915705
You know that's not what I mean. So why waste everybody's time?
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>>135910179
I have an addendum to my original post

Once or twice a round on someone's wakeup you can get away with jumping right over their head and using air A. If they're doing something they'll get stunned by the first hit and you can link into down A for good damage.

Libre's counter-attack in field mode doesn't track very well, if at all, so don't rely on it. use the neutral Y projectiles instead. It's not as much damage, but it's incredibly fast and will beat out most attacks even up close.
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>>135915367
first 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-8qrMAh4nQ
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>>135915485
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>>135915935
You're doing God's work
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>>135915391

I don't use Weavile, I use Braixen
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>>135915485
I would rather post superior flame
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>>135915367
I believe a wall splat must occur for the high stance Y to connect. I forgot to mention that, but it's written in my notes.
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how the fuck are you supposed to know when a champ decides to go for an attack or a grab
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How shitty is Charizard?
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>>135894094
Blaziken
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>>135915238
good J
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE-at65LjDA
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>>135916954
all characters are good right now
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>>135913032
fucking hell, the moment I saw garchomp I knew it was gonna be intense
ggs
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Shadow Mewtwo seems better than Mewtwo in every way except for Mewtwos super being better since it's a command grab.
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so does chomp have literally zero options against gardevoir or something
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Just finished Chrome league and I'm so fucking tired of stor mode. Is Iron league worth doing because I don't think I can take ranking up 100 more times
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>>135917585
Dig
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How do I get in with Gengar in the Duel Phase? He can't zone well since he doesn't have any good air moves in that phase.

Also, is there anything you can get off his high and low stances? Doesn't seem like it so far.
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>>135917246
I picked him up earlier as my sub, I kinda like him i just need to learn how to use dig correctly, im cancelling at the wrong time

>>135917585
idk people say dig but then you get blown the fuck out by her AoE counter, can't cancel in time to grab
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>>135917624
It gives you extra customization items.
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How many moves do the Mewtwos share? Is it like the Pikachus where it's basically just one movestring?
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>>135917753
>dig
>want to come up
>eat counter and/or stored power
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>>135917850
Astonish.
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>>135917585
Did you know that that obnoxious bullshit dazzling gleam attack that hits all around gardevoir is actually a counter
If you grab gardevoir when she's trying to get it out, not ONLY does it work, it gives you one of those wonderful crits that power up garchomps moves

I dunno how well this works in practice since I don't know how sand tomb actually works but still
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>>135917870
So sort of worth it
Shit
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>>135917850
Can't you use the midair Y move to do an air dash forward? There's also CADC, and you can also use gengar's shadow stealth mechanic by pressing basically any flavor of A move, releasing A immediately and then holding R while moving around.
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>>135917585
>Dig
>Dig+cancel
>Air X
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Is there a reason no one actually plays Shadow Mewtwo? It seems like that much edge and everyone getting him immediately with the boxed version would make him popular.
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>>135918163
>block
>counter
>anti-air
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>Braixen mirror matches
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>Join the general VS code
>Get rekt by Chandelure
>Nah, that let's fight someone else
>Next match is Chandelure again
>Get bodied twice as hard as before


Yeah fuck this I'm out.
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>>135918257
>counter
>not going for a grab
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>>135918353
Was it Turtle?
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>>135918163
jumps in this game are too floaty, an old man would be able to react with a counter

the only option at that point woul be empty jump grab but in this game with this bullshit RPS mechanic you could get blown the fuck up
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>>135918450
No idea, some chick with red hair I think.
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>>135918504
Than follow it up with earthquake or quickfall
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>>135918380
>grabbing when underground
>grabbing an aoe attack
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>>135918353
Yeah, I think that was me. Sorry, I think chandy is really hard for Sceptile to fight. It probably didn't help that my friend mains him so I already kinda knew what you were gonna go for.

I'm stopping now if you want to go back in, that way you won't need to see me again.

>>135918450
No, if it's me then it's not. Based off his reply it was me.
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>>135918353
I'm pretty sure most of the people here main spooky lamp.
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>>135918068
probably because mewtwo so theyre all trying to finish the story and get the piece of shit
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Does anyone else hate how grabbing someone that's attacking acts as a tech throw instead of just completely beating the grab?
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>>135918660
Nah, I played with a few players and the only repeats I got were fighting the same guy multiple times
got a shadow mewtwo, a chandy, a braixen, and a garchomp
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>>135918657
Nah man, no worries. I've gotta get going nayway and really just wanted to give it a quick go anyway. Legit can't get upset because someone's better than me. GGs.

>>135918660
I wanna try it out eventually, but I'm busy trying to git gud with my Machamp for Iron League.
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>>135918654
I meant using grab after canceling dig as garchomp, but I know I was a bit unclear.
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>>135918725
I dunno, sometimes my grab is broken and people go for a big combo, sometimes I get out scot free
I think you get it if you just keep attacking
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so what's the edgiest S Mewtwo trainer names you've seen /ptg/
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>>135918725
no, its the only thing redeeming this kusoge
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>>135919012
>cancel dig
>eat stored power
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Was awesome running into you again nanaca. GGs
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Is Shadow supposed to just put all his points in synergy and use a support that gives him more synergy? He seems overpowered as fuck with his synergy moves and complete shit in normal mode.
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>>135919213
ay
I hate everything
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>>135919010
Alrighty then, GGs.
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Does anyone know what triggers the second kind of throw? I keep doing only one throw almost everytime and I barely get the second one.
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>>135893680
EWGF?
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>>135919447
field phase and duel phase each have their own grab.
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>>135919641
Not really, I get both grabs in both phases.
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How do I counter Thunder spamming Pikachu? He gets too high to hit with any attacks.
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>fighting the ditto in ranked
>seeing other people using your non-tutorial combos
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>>135919069
Dark Nick
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>>135919750
Unless you are talking about command grabs, no.
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Okay Blue, you got me: what am I supposed to go against a throw that does 250 damage?
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>lasers and lasers
send help
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>Seeing high ranked Gardevoirs not knowing you can change the trajectory of most projectiles with the dpad
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Post global rankings.

>838
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>no one plays machamp in pubs
>first /ptg/ match is against one
>panic

wew that was fun
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>>135919867
I think you can mash attack out of that block string. I think Machamp does a lot to Weavile. I don't know what to tell you because I don't play the character.

You telegraph your counters a lot, I guess. Which is why I neutral jumped waiting for the punish.
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>>135919758
Which mon do you use?
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>>135919867
What fucking character can do that?
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>tfw getting progressively shittier and shittier
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>>135920261
Braixen and Weavile.
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Alright QB, we need to talk
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>>135920565
What's up?
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>>135920373
For me when I go online I get a little stressed out sometimes because I don't fight against people online much. It's easier when I'm going against people I know then I can have more fun with it.
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>>135920373
>tfw suddenly got better and don't know what I did
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>>135920094
I just found out today that that also applies to future sight
Pretty useful to know
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>>135920619
Nothing in particular
but I figured you should know my doctor told me to watch my sodium intake
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Okay. It's confirmed worth it to combo into super, at least with lucario.
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Would you buy Mawile dlc that has the highest HP in the game and when it goes Mega it can just one shot anyone?
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>>135920650
Same. Played like hot shit last night an suddenly started getting a few wins tonight
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Can't decide whether I should main Weavile or Pikachu Libre. I'm leaning more towards Weavile, but I feel like too many people are going to be playing him, and mirror matches are always frustrating and boring.
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>>135920939
>mawile dlc
Fuck yes I would buy that in an instant since she's my all time favorite pokemon
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>>135921128
From my experience pikalibre is way more common than weavile. In fact I don't think I've seen any weaviles onlines yet
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>>135920890
Well, I suppose I should stop before your sodium dosage gets too high. I feel kinda guilty stealing that win off of countering marowak. The more I play the more I feel like a really big ass playing Chandelure, but I just like him/her/it too much to stop.

Also, GGs to anyone who played against QB.
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>>135915029
More games need to implement Quitalities like Mortal Kombat
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Setting up a thread VS code was a beautiful idea
I love the way they handled playing with friends. You can set up a general room or swap it to friends only and guarantee its with a certain person
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>>135921340
Alright I'll go Weavile then, he's one of my favorite Pokemon.
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thanks key for playing, i had alot of fun learning some of the pokes while fighting you.
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will this be the next /psasbrg/
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>Gengar just took 70% of my health with his super
im new, but is this normal? My weavile does like 25% with his super. Who else does stupid amounts of damage in this game?
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>>135905183
>Sceptile
>Xenoblade

Fucking S rank taste. Nothing better to take names with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OfNgkxkM_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwT-S0Fb4LM
And of course for when I'm riding high-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRMX0ljtq1g
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>>135921872
it might be based on his level. I'm not sure if those are carried over in online.
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>hitting a long range Lucario Synergy Burst

things I will only ever do once, get to cross it off my bucket list
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Stay on for a bit, blue
I need to know what I'm doing wrong or if it's just the effect of rageplaying
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>>135921872
Are you comboing into your burst attack? The scaling means the burst will do less. It's okay to finish, but you're generally better off using it reactively.

Machamp does ridiculous damage, but has issues getting in to compensate.
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>>135921872
>>135921947
Gengar's special does somewhere in the 240 to 260 range. If he was lvl 100 add up to 10 damage.
He didn't do 70% of even Shadow Mewtwo's health. Pay more attention to how often you get hit.
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>>135921872
His burst is stupidly strong because he takes the longest to charge synergy.
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>>135921872
Doesn't Weavile have the least HP in the game? That could have something to do with it.

Also if he was on low HP rage could have kicked in.
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>>135921947
Skill points affect almost nothing dude
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>>135922226
Shadow mewtwo has losest
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>>135922226
S Mewtwo does at 480
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>>135920363

Machamp at low health and in burst, you can get like 270 with Jirachi assist.
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>these scathing glares from braixen as I lose every online match

I'm so sorry
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Is there porn of the Nia girl yet
My dick must know
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>>135923203
>losing with braixen when fire blast is cruise control for win
m8
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>>135923298
I hate spamming, I don't wanna be that kind of Braixen player
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>>135923298
You do know there are easy ways around it, right?
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>picked up garchomp
>spent some time learning his combos and labbing
>take him into ranked
>steadily losing matches
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Tired of playing Braixen. What should I learn first with Libre? Is Wall Jump useful at all?
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Is 100 the maximum Skill Level a Pokemon can reach?
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>>135923562
Wall jump is just useful for the defense boost it grants.

See >>135915935
>>135910179
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>>135923390
Do tell, haven't picked up the game yet and I would love to be able to stomp this game's equivalent of Elphet pickers right out the gate.
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Braixen is so cute you guys.
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someday this kuronata person will get good with braixen and piss me off to no end
until then I'm gonna take pleasure out of beating them
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>>135923650
Well for one
>>135892137
>Learn to CADC Edition

There's also dashing to the side of it if you're far away enough or breaking the projectile before it spreads
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Thanks for the valuable lesson in blocking projectiles Madotsuki, you strong bastar-

>>135923850
ONE DAY MOTHERFUCKER
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>>135923913
>CADC

Counter Attack Dash Cancel?
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>>135923665
Too cute I might add
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>>135923979
Yep
It can get a bit tricky learning not to start it too early or late but it's worth learning
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How can people stand playing Brax and Gardevoir? Zoning in this game is boring as fuck
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>>135923935
you actually improved noticeably as you learned the matchup
I could feel it
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>>135924203
Interesting. So if I start a counter attack and then dash cancel it after intercepting a projectile I'll tank it and advance? That sounds very handy. I wonder how Sceptile's ranged game is.
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>>135924241
Because braixen isn't pure zoning. She just has a lot of projectiles at her disposal
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>>135915238
No one cares MLX
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>>135924241
Are you serious? I have so many projectiles to play with when using Gardevoir, I love it. And Future Sight is such good coverage. I've never had so much fun playing a zoner.
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So does this game have BNBs and shit I should learn? I've found just pressing buttons in general tends to make shit dead.

I play Machamp if it matters
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>>135924847
Learning better combos make shit dead faster
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>framed pictures of lucario in both the dojo and the stadium
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>everytime machamp wins a round he poses and pumps his chest twice in the background
my boner really wants to main machamp
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Nice matches key, was really helpful to learn the match up
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>>135924847
He has a 10/10 juggle game like Lucario
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>>135925003
Well are there BNBs? Because messing around in training mode I ain't seen anything that stands out. Most combos tend to do roughly the same
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so allblue
how do I stop being a shitter
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>>135924645
>constantly setting up traps with delayed explosions
>throw normal projectiles in to just for shits
>opponent has to guess the openings to CADC through or get smacked by one of them
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>>135924847
(in bulk up enhance) Down X, Down X, Midair Y, Down X, Down X, Wake Up Slap (Midair A) is one combo I made up that has a lot of damage output. Can probably combo into other things since it doesn't cause a phase shift.


Also what button system are people using in this game? I've seen JP players use the number system like 6Y or 3A.
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>get matched up against the no. 1 global ranked player
>finally beat him after 5 losses

I'll take it.
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vgptg seems empty, did you guys switch code or am I being unlucky??
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>>135925263
pick gardevoir
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What's the best way to use supers? Punishes? Yolo? Combo enders?
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMByah6Zw2k
>Just fought the same guy three times
>He had a win rate of 100%
>Tfw won two of the three matches
>Tfw we were using the same character
That fucking second match was rough Jesus Fuck. Bloody knew everything I was doing
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>watching smash player try to play ranked online in pokken with Machamp on twitch
>constantly using terms that don't apply to the game "nice instant overhead!"
>spamming the shit out of unsafe and stuffable moves
>complaining about zoners while refusing to use cross-chop and seismic toss
This nigga is talking about being the number 1 competitive machamp and he doesn't even use Machamp's command grab
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Is there a setting to make the game stop matching me against a CPU when it doesn't find me an online opponent?
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>>135925447
I take it you're Yui.
Thank you for letting me beat you just a few minutes ago. I suck at online.
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>>135925447
it's a late night on a Sunday in America.

it will probably be more populated tomorrow
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How do you other machamps get in vs the gay lamp?

I know about fadc, but you can't do that all day vs the beam.
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>>135925528
eventually
but I want to get to the point where I can beat champs with my chomp

right now its literally one mistake costs me half my bar
and mistakes are happening a lot
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>>135925585
after finding out damage scales depending if it hit's during a combo, you're better off looking for an opening to abuse.
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>>135925640
>nice instant overhead
That's gotta be a joke
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Wake-up super since 1994
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>>135925640
I've noticed that a lot that people who prominently play Fightan Games seem to complain a shit ton about projectiles in Pokken
Because they've never heard of a Zoner. But apparently to them it isn't Zoning, it's projectile spam
Which is zoning
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>>135925782
It's not.

Jtails.

He says overhead at least three times a match
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>>135925585
It's pretty situational.
I find that sometimes I can act out of hit stun with my burst super faster than any other option for some reason, probably because burst mode.
Usually it's safe to scoop the enemy into the air and then use it as they're falling, so you can confirm it'll hit without wasting most of the damage due to the scaling.
Other times I just walk the fuck up and super in field phase if I can manage it.
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>>135925640
Games new m8.

Personally I don't know what the fuck cross chop and seismic toss does to counter zoners, nor what moves are safe or not desu. There's no resource for this shit I have seen like there are for other fighters so I just play super casually
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>>135925640
>Every fucking faggot streamer is the "#1" at whatever character they're playing
>They're still learning the game and have no idea what they're doing

I don't get this narcissism, is it just to guarantee more viewers?
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>>135925624
>Had this exact this happen to me yesterday (Except with twin Blazikens)
>Last match we fought on was Phos Volcano
>That theme
That just turned the entire fight into a boss battle
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so is sceptile shit or am i shit? i feel like i have to work so hard for my wins since his combos don't seem to deal as much damage as other guys or are just difficult to achieve (up a is dumb but needs perfect setup and timing)
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>>135925952
Cross chop and Seismic Toss are armored and move Machamp forward while attacking.
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>>135926173
sceptile is one of the hardest characters to learn from what I've tried and what others have said.
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>>135926180
Which buttons are they?
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>>135921192
>she
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>>135920939
>Would you buy Mawile dlc
Yes.

>that has the highest HP in the game and when it goes Mega it can just one shot anyone?
No. I'd actually sell my copy instead.
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>>135926173
From what I've seen his burst mode is absolutely insane. Try to make your mega count.
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>>135925874
>overhead
>in pokken

Typical smash player trying to sound like he knows anything about actual fighting games.
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>>135897167
Machamp
Don't really play except casually but when I do, Ryu, Cloud. Lil Mac
Birdie
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>>135926343
Cross Chop is A when pumped up

Seismic toss is forward A in field mode. I forget what it is in duel mode.
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>grab them on wakeup
>they grab you first
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>>135925263
GGs bro! Umm I'm new too so there's not much I can tell you. You're not a shitter, don't even talk down to yourself like that, even if you're losing. Shitter mentality is thinking they're better than they are and refusing to learn. You started beating a lot of my stuff in the later sets, but in the later later sets it seems like you went autopilot.

You tend to do the same things over and over again, which gets pretty predictable. Whenever you used Dig I'd wait until you either cancelled (which I jumped because 9/10 times you'd grab) or used the full thing for a punish. I play a lot of fighters so I'm used to playing grapplers and stuff, and looking for patterns. Try getting more mixups in your game. I Garchomp seems like he takes a lot of work to beat someone who's not braindead, but he does truck damage.

Try not doing high risk stuff like the jumping homing attack unless I have a habit of throwing out the fist things and the boulder, which I don't I dodged your projectiles and waited til you did something unsafe and punished you. I have to come to you to do damage, take advantage of that in neutral.

>>135925861
I disagree, it's fighting game casuals like Max and Smashbabbies that are complaining about projectiles.
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>>135897167
>>135926487
Are you Me? Machamp/Mac/Birdie
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>>135926475
But there aren't even overheads in Smash...
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>travis
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>>135897167
Machamp
Ryu
Laura/Zangief
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This games roster is pathetic, it's so small. We desperately need more added.
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>>135926556
>>135926180
>>135925952
Just to avoid confusion, the move is Submission, not Seismic Toss. That's Charizard's air grab.
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>>135919514
Everyone Wants Gay Furries
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How can you tell if something's a true combo? "combo damage" in practice seems to reset to 0 sometimes even if it looks they they're in hitstun.
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>>135926632
It happens every fucking time.
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>>135926667
I think the main thing is that I'm a little fixated on crits with chomp, and so I end up ignoring the basic counter because it's not part of his gimmick
I guess I'll go practice another character to hammer it in my head more then
Thanks for the matches
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>>135926807
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>>135926754
That's just makes it even more pathetic
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>>135926845
I feel like if you actually search that something terrible might pop up
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>>135926770
His voice has no reason being that bad.
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I don't understand how counter attacks can get stuffed even when I'm holding it during the whole attack animation of someones move.

Like I was getting stuffed by pika just jumping with X
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>>135927000
Trips says you better check that out
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>>135926905
Thanks! I learned a lot about Garchomp too, how did you get the powerups? Was it from your support? I didn't know he had a self buff like Machamp
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>>135911887
bumping this

>>135926860
set the dummy's reaction option to block, if it's not a true combo, they'll start to block.
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>>135919514
Electric Wind God Fist

It's a Mishima family thing, you wouldn't understand.
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>>135927095
Some X moves have armor-breaking properties and will pierce your counter attacks and stuff like Chandelure's Overheat (which is an A move with super armor). To beat them, just use a faster move.
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>>135927128
Yeah, another anon actually reminded me that Victini guarantees crits on all hits, so I ended up taking that advice since more crits is always good
Machamp is fucking terrifying man, I literally have to learn a zoner now
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>>135926860
Turn on Freeze in free training's minus menu. It shows how long hitstun and recovery lasts.
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>Press counter
>Nothing happens and I get hit
Why the fuck does this always happen?
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>>135927000
Just searched it. It's nothing unusual unless you are a normalfag who gets triggered by the idea of non-human porn.
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>>135926350
What's your point
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>>135927334
>searching for gay furries
>expecting a surprise
>2016
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>>135927295
simply tapping it will just counter a single hit or block a projectile, if the enemy is using a string of attacks you gotta hold it.
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I play Weavile, and my grab always misses people when I'm right next to them. I'll use it, and it obviously should work, but nothing happens to them. Is it because I'm so small?
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>>135927287
Yo good shit, I thought his moves powered up once you landed a fully charged counter or something
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What are some of mewtwos BnBs? I've been labbing a bit and cant seem to figure that much out
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>>135927670
yeah, chomp's gimmick is that if you land crits with his u/d/b As, he doubles up on the attack
you can get some pretty ridiculous damage out of comboing from them but it's really read heavy and reading is something I'm pretty shit at
more practice I guess
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>>135927287

What league do you unlock that support in?
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wow chandulere or whatever the fuck can grab you from stupid ranges. how is this fair?
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>>135927907
Red
I had to grind through that snoozefest of a single player for like an hour or so to get to it
but at least it's mine now
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>>135927295
Some moves have counter pierce. I couldn't figure out why Charizard just blew through my counters all the time and this was why.
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>>135927974
Because it's a zoner. Learn the grab distance of Hex. Or just fucking jump.
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>>135927974
It's a command grab that only grabs you from a certain distance. It can even hurt you more if you have a status condition. Moving in close on Chandelure is how you beat it, don't let it zone you.
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>>135927974
It's a very precise hitbox, same as Sceptile. If you're a little too close or a little too far off it won't connect. If you're in a getup position beneath the spot the best way to dodge is immediately jumping.
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>>135927974
His ranged grab can still be broken out of from a regular attack to i'm pretty sure.
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>>135928023

I wish we had a unfinished single player like sfv, so we wouldn't have to play boring ass cpu matches to get stuff.

How casuals like this garbage fluff in a fighting game is beyond me.
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>>135927974
Use a light attack to cancel it.
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>>135928106

Getting in on one that knows how to zone you out is easier said then done.

I wish jumps weren't so bad in this game.
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>>135897167
>Charizard or Braixen, can't decide which
>Rosalina in Smash 4, Toon Link/Young Link everywhere else
>Sakura in 4, not sure in 5
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>your opponent has disconnected
: <
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>>135928183
y-yeah, them casuals
heh
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Remind me again why Machamp's damage is fair?
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>>135928285
Dash out of your counter to absorb some of the small projectile hits. Jumping isn't the only way to avoid projectiles.
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>mfw Gengar's best combo is just forward Y, X, then down X twice
>his mixup is a fucking 33/66
>shadow punch is slow as fuck and tracks like shit
Is Gengar garbage tier or am I missing something?
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>>135928497

Tried that, kept getting bopped by the fuckhuge and fast beam.
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>>135928486
Because he's a grappler. Every grappler in every fighter have insane damage. If he can't get close he's fucked since he has few options getting in. So once he's in he has to make it count.
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>>135928626
But what about characters like Weavile that don't have projectiles? The icicle only deals 10 damage.
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>>135928486

Because you can just zone him out, don't let him get in or you're gonna get ur butt pounded by 240damage combos.


Also really good machamp combo for pure damage is

Down X,X > J.Y > Down X,X > Y > Down A(buffed)
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>"Aren't Lucario's paws adorable?" Luchachu player
Alright which one of you fucks was this
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Is Iron League AI still brain dead? After I double perfected the Chroma League champion I can't imagine it getting much harder.
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>>135928759
Weavile is disgusting once he gets in, icicle is great for mixups and his combos do tons of damage for how fast he is
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>>135928869

What do you use to make webm's?
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>main chandy
>pick up chomp
>vs a chandy on ranked
>tear them a new anus against the wall last game

I never knew how fun it would be from this perspective jesus christ. After I got into duel phase 2 crit grab combos were all I needed.
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I think if you use your 400 damage super that you should immediately lost access to burst.

This is such a horseshit mechanic, someone thought this was a good idea.
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>>135892374
Is nobody playing?
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DO STATS AFFECT ONLINE OR NOT I CANNOT GET A STRAIGHT ANSWER
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>>135928953
Webm for Retards, or Webm for Bakas because of politically correct assholes on github

https://github.com/WebMBro/WebMConverter
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>>135928571
He was top tier before they nerfed him on the arcades.

I don't know too much about him but I've seen a lot of cool combos with him.

>>135928759
Weavile A attack goes through projectiles bro, plus it can zone with icicle crash can cancel it to stay in the air longer. Plus with its speed it can get to the enemy very fast and apply pressure.
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>>135929030
ye
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>>135929012
I am
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Well I guess I oughta be going to bed, I'm back from spring break so I can't stay up like I could
I'm surprised I'm doing decently with gardevoir. Maybe she'll get worse as people get better, but right now I'm actually holding my own against you guys. I'll take it!
anyway, good games to everyone I played with, peace
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>>135928954
>knock someone into a wall
>up y over and over again to keep slamming them into it

I CANT HEAR THEIR CRYING OVER MY 80% WIN RATIO
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>Alright bedtime after this round
>Oh shit I get to rank up if I win any of the next three
>Okay, bedtime if I rank up, bedtime if I fail all 3

>Win first round
>Get to go to bed feeling satisfied as fuck

Now if only it could alleviate the pain of this 40% winrate.
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>>135929218
What rank are you
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>>135929030
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokkenGame/comments/4b8tbi/skill_points_do_affect_online/d17bva8

I know I know.
>Reddit

But they are doing the numbers, so it's a start.
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>>135929250
Just got to D5. Playing pretty casually, go pretty even with most Pokemon.

Except for Weavile. Guy just fucks me up something fierce. The way he moves is different from everyone else to me.
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>TFW I'm the worst player on VGPTG
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>>135918195
hes hard to play with so little health and moves costing him health. I side him and his attacks all have pretty good hitboxes.
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>94% win with libre
Fear the pressure.

Also: gotta love maining an anti-zoner when everyone is going crazy with suicune and gardevoor and braixen
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>>135929206
Just chomp me up

But seriously, i hate you fucks
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>the announcer shittalks you when you lose
like if i wasnt mad enough, seriously fuck this dumb bitch.
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>>135929080
Well, I'm not getting any matches.
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>>135929393
How bad could you even be? You gotta be better than twitch plays pokemon, at least
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>>135929508
>THEY MADE YOU THEIR PUNCHING BAG

NO SHIT THANK YOU MISS OBVIOUS.
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>>135918195
>>135929410
Another reason is because not many unlocked him yet, there's the card but people probably found it too annoying to scan him every time they boot up the game.
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>Your opponent disconnected


; ; I tried I'm sorry.

gg
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>>135929250
marlow please be gentle with my anus
i'm learning
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>>135929345
I'd guess as a close range fighter you'd want to deal with weavile by counter attacking and dash cancelling backwards if the opponent is charging their counter piercing attacks, then punishing the recovery on it
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>>135897167
Pikachu
Donkey Kong/Mario
Cammy
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>>135929631
>YOU GOT READ LIKE A BOOK

SHUT THE FUCK UP CUNT HE HAD 20 HP LEFT THAT ISN'T READ
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>>135897167
>Gardevoir
>Ness
>too much of a faggot for sf
>>
What's some Gengar basics? What's his overall gameplan?
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>>135929783
>WOW YOU'RE DOING GREAT! GUESS MY ADVICE MUST REALLY BE HELPING HUH?

HEY FOUR EYED SLUT YOU NEED A NEW PAIR OF GLASSES MY WINRATE IS SUB 40% YOUR ADVICE HASN'T DONE SHIT.
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>>135929884
>I SHOULD GIVE BETTER ADVICE NEXT TIME

MAYBE SHUT THE FUCK UP I HAVE A 75% WINRATE WITHOUT HEARING YOU TALK
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>>135892374
I'm convinced nobody's playing. Haven't had a match in ten minutes.
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>>135929508
That... was bad.
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Does anyone want recordings of a certain animation? Keep in mind the entrances are going to have me in it, so
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>>135929972
What a narcissistic asshole. It's like if the water boy at a superbowl game told the team they only won because of him.

Shut the fuck up and get back to boosting my supoort/synergy gauge in-between rounds. Don't say anything else.

Bitch.
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why do lucario's projectiles have retardedly high priority

an uncharged aura sphere beats or trades with all of my ranged attacks
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>>135897167
braixen
villager
ibuki and karin
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>>135929556
Sub 33% win rate
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>>135930206
Lucario's pretty good at everything, he has solid projectiles and solid melee
If you're playing someone with worse projectiles try infighting
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>>135930295
In ranked or friendlies?
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Nevermind, the one character i just refuse to fight is the only thing i get to fight in vgptg and ranked
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>>135930021
Did you remember to switch the VS Code option from "cancel" to "use?"
Maybe double check the code?
Ionno anon.
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>Official art always draws Lucario's ears as these weird bulbs with the inner ear pasted on
>They're actual ears in this game
I do not understand
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gg's fat, whoever you are, I had no idea what to do in that matchup but I think I learned some stuff
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>>135930280
Waifu fag detected
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>>135930021
If you're still looking for a match I'm just sitting on my ass now looking for a practice partner
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>>135930420
Friendlies. Specifically VGPTG.
Like Hell I'm gonna go into ranked when I can't read, combo, or even wall punish.
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>>135930295
With how many matches?

Also my favorite thing about this game is I don't care much if I lose. It just doesn't have that serious feel like with SFV

I think I have maybe a 44% winrate or less, but I have like 15 matches tops
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>>135930514
GGs friendo, I felt the same. Feels like I don't get enough lucarios to go up against.
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>>135930092
The opening where braixen is sleeping and she wakes up blushing
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>>135930092
all of braixens if you dont mind. i heard she has an intro where shes sleeping.
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>>135930092
Think you can get one of machamp doing his thumbs up victory pose?
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>>135930462
Was it braixen?
I'm sorry if it was but braixen is just too cute for me not to play her
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>>135930529
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>>135930653
The only Machamps I've seen are the ones from /ptg/ and the occasional japanese player every 15 or so games
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>>135930462
GWOOOOAHHH
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>>135930490
uhh what
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>>135930476
>>135930569
I was actually just retarded. I had it set to Friend instead of Anyone.
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How are you guys liking Blaziken? Originally wanted to play him, but after trying his combos decided to learn Pika Libre first. Do you feel you need to put more effort in with Blaziken? How about his moves timing?
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>>135930773
I'm not him but I'm guessing you're the fella that just memed on my Champ. gg
I've got a ways to go!
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>>135930804
I've gotten a fair amount of them today, but it's still nothing compared to the droves of braixens and sceptiles.
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>>135930838
The shading makes the ears look like they're conical, whereas in the game they curve inward similar to dog ears
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Pikachu is fucking stupid nevermind fuck this stupid ass game, you fucking get projectiles until you move then thunder what the fuck
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>>135930938
yeah it was me. I was really scared to let you get in close so I feel I used more projectiles than I usually do, sorry. Was fun though, gg
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>me and friend hyped for pokken
>go to his house when he gets game and absolutely body him 16 wins to 3 losses
>call it a day and go home
>got game today
>call him, play some matches
>8 wins no losses
>says he doesn't feel like playing pokken anymore and he'll go back to playing smash competitively

He always fucking shit on me in smash and I finally payed the shit back
>>
>>135897167
Gengar (so far)
Wario
Hakan
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>>135931113
Nah, you played really well, I didn't feel like you were spammy.
I've barely played online and was freaking out trying to CADC in, aha. And once I did you were so much faster than me.
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>>135897167
>GARCHOMP
>GANONDORF
>NECALLI

RIP AND TEAR
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>>135930706
>>135930760
I have not seen this one yet.

>>135930765
On it, chief.
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>>135931082
play suicune and get FREE (free) instant hydropumps by reflecting any of his projectiles
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>planned to play braixen and sceptile
>ended up just playing garchomp
why is he so fun
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>>135931221
>I didn't feel like you were spammy.
I'm so glad to hear that what I do isn't considered too spammy
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>people keep complaining about spammy zoners
>refuse to figure out how to style on spammy zoners
Gonna keep doing it until it stops working, y'know
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>>135931135
>Smash players go into this game expecting to be good
I had to learn this the hard way. Soul was crushed the first day but i've been feeling like i've been getting better lately. I'm noticing i'm winning a bit more often, i've even got my win ratio over 50% today.
>>
Gardevoir has a legit unblockable. Well it's not really unblockable if they're already blocking, but here's some tech

if you set her bomb thing behind your opponent in duel phase and trigger burst, their reelback animation will cause them to get hit by the bomb and take unscaled damage
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Anyone interested in something like this if I clean it up and color it. Probably just a flat color.
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>>135931521
Eh? But wouldn't they just keep blocking through the bomb?
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>>135929883
I'm not sure. I think zone hard in field. In duel, it seems like he wants to force the opponent to block, since his main mixup tool hypnosis only works on block and counter.
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GGs Yui, I really should stop playing this game like SF and learn how to CADC
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>>135905183
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-g4wL8Vq-I
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>>135931531
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Anybody have any good Pikachu protip/tutorial videos to recommend? I need to step up my game if I want to win ranked matches.
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>>135930765
Gotchu senpai
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>Beating the Chroma League Tournament unlocks oujo ring hair
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>>135931680
Much better than mine. Oh well.
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>>135931531
gone head and drop some machamp/garchomp pacha

>>135931660
this is assuming they're not blocking (which they're not if you're not predictable about it)
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>>135931717
Shofu looks like a pretty good pikachu and he has a couple different match ups on his channel
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>Trying to learn Sceptile
>All this crazy shit you can set up
>Two different types of jumps that can lead into different moves
>Holding a button down changes the range of an attack

I'm not an intelligent enough man for this madness.
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>>135931737
Perfect, thank you.
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>>135931772
Should still do it, the more reaction images the better
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>>135929329
Is there even a better altenative for pokken resources and info gathering then reddit right now?

>>135930092
>>135931737
If you could record machamp doing a bulk up boosted submission and close combat (as seperate clips) on a full health shadow mewtwo, while also being boosted by an attack up support, while machamp is at low health himself so he has rage, i'd apperciate that, I wanna see how huge of a chunk of shadow mewtwo's lifebar those knock off and turrn them into webms
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>>135931426
>over 50%
congrats anon
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>>135929563
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This game has too much blocking.

Why do guard breaks literally take 70 seconds to occur with pressure?
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>>135931796
>machamp/garchomp pacha

Seconding this.
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>>135931772
I'd really like to see yours finished too, anon
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>>135931671
Good games man, yeah people haven't really been using CADC against me so far but I guess this is still day 3
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>>135931992
Lrn2A+X
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>>135931809
Which is the harder trickster character, Sceptile or Gengar?
I'd guess Sceptile because he doesn't have a Synergy Burst that makes him twice as good a character to fall back on
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>>135931967
I haven't unlocked Shadow Mewtwo yet, so I can't do that, sorry!

>>135930706
>>135930760

I swear to god I have played Braixen about 40 times and I haven't seen this sleeping animation.
>>
>E2
>nothing but shitters camping
>get a fucking sceptile for my last rank up match
>gets me in a corner and spams the bullshit command grab
>cand cadc out, cant jump out
>just stuck in a fucking corner getting this stupid ass plant bullshit until im timed out
fuck this, nobody below C is good, are they
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>>135931992
Just grab them
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>>135931992
>he doesn't know the secret Y+B technique
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>>135931796
>>135931914
>>135932000
>>135932002


Hey cool, thanks for the support. I'll work a machamp one then finish the braixen one.
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>>135932091
You mean B+Y

>>135932118
Fuck you, you can't call people shit if you're losing to them
that just means you're worse than shit
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>>135930906
Anyone?
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>when you have a few competetive matches and the AllBlue rolls up and rips you ass apart

wew gg
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>>135932096
Not him, but so far I haven't seen much amazing about Doppel. He really only has gimmicky Hypnosis shenanigans.
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GG Chazo! That last game was insane! And you went fucking clutch on that first round!
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>>135931772
Anon, what about Machamp doing double Pacha
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>Play Chandy
>Feel like a fucking asshole, win a lot even without ranged spam
>Play anyone else
>Oh shit how do I play

I guess I'll take it.
>>
Thanks for the battles, Nanaco, I believe it was?
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>>135931521
If you're in neutral you can block that on reaction.
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>>135932243
>tfw didn't get to fight AllBlue's main
>only got to fight his secondary character
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>>135932096
It turns out one button is just a short hop as opposed to a full jump, my mistake.
Less overwhelming than I thought.

I haven't played Gengar so I can't weigh in, but at the very least I've seen more Gengar players than Sceptile if that helps any.
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>>135931971
Yuri best husbando
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>>135932265
>tfw trying to get around Chandelures projectiles
>Always forgetting about hex and its long grab range

Its hard out there for a chomp who cant dig cancel. Good games!
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>>135932302
Simple solution, just let go of the humanity you have left and main them forever
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>>135932210
no, it means that im getting the worst shit possible. I havent fought anything other than Braixen until my rank up match and even then they literally just camped. The only way to rank up is to be a piece of shit who plays a campy fucking cunt
>>
>Pikachu Libre's thunder net Thunder Wave

LUDICROUS GRAB RANGE

ANTI-EVERYTHING SHORT OF BEAM SPAM.

Grabbed like at least 20 jumping fucks airborne, not limited but including to a lot of Charizards and Machamps
>>
For the players smarter than me: what should I do after I burst with Weavile? The opponent's just going to CA, but it's not like I've got a good grab to counter that.
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>>135931081
Isnt that how youre supposed to see it?
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>when you 2-0 the global #1
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>>135932302
>Debuff their attack and defense
>Hex does like 300 damage

god damn
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so guys when the updates hit, who do you think is getting buffed/nerfed?
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>>135930092
This is some advanced Japanese tech right here, you can tell the developers play Braixen

It's so obvious, you can't play as well with an erection so they made all of Braixen's animations arousing, and unlike R.Mika there's nothing to censor.

Godlike tech, Godlike tech.
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>>135932391
Can Chandelure grab garchomp out of dig?
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>>135932743
Not while's underground, no. Maybe in the startup though.
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>>135932743
I dont think so, but Im pretty sure low hits like Chandelure's slide attack can knock Chomp out of the dig. It keeps happening, and I cant tell if thats supposed to happen or people just keep hitting me the frame I pop out of the ground.
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Shadow Mewtwo is definitely going to be the best character in the game once people get good. Being able to cancel out of blockstrings for 30 health is too good.
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>>135932694
first time i ever looked up furry. they knew what they were doing with this design.
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>>135932391
I swear to God you HAVE to spam jump against that fuck in duel mode or it will grab you.
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WIP, not happy with the mouth so i'll work on it
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>>135932974

>No Kickboxing/Leg-lock grabban Lopunny

They had to do -something- right since Hawlucha and Hitmonchan got denied.
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>>135932694
>Think Braixen is just cute
>Suicune, on the other hand...

I've achieved levels of degeneracy that can only get better from here
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>>135932974
>Every other Pokemon is in final evo except Pikachu(face of franchise) and Braixen
They knew.
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dead man walking

still taking animation requests btw
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>>135933131
yes, they knew that delphox is an absolute shit design
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>>135933220
i can almost guarantee delphoxes mega will be much more similar to braixen.
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>>135933120
>TatM
Never though I'd meet someone else here who knew of Bones
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Is there any point in allocating stats into anything but attack?
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>>135933157

>"Go! X!"
>not "Go, X!"

why does prevalent meme irk me so much?
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holy fuck how do I deal with Braixen zoning with those magic shots and fire blast?
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>>135933120
>Suicune's low stance
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>>135933389
dig a hole dig a hole dig a hole
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>>135933373
hell, just putting in 100 points in attack in training mode made me see that it only does like 11 extra damage with chandelure's fully charged side x
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>>135933032
Legitimately laughed when I saw it. Fookin gr8 m8 I rate 8/8 no h8
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>>135933032
Those hands make me hard anon
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>>135933157
Could you do Chandelure's flex (hold x until she slightly glows orange) in duel phase?
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>>135933518
or is it side y?
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>Opponent doesn't rematch
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>>135933640
Flex? You mean minimize? If so then yeah, you can.
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>>135932834
S O M O E
O
M
O
E
>>
>trying to learn new options
>start to forget how to play the main
the worst kind of suffering
>>
anyone want to play
>>
Timed out by another fucking lamp
how the hell do i deal with this shit as mewtwo without getting timed out
>>
>>135932834
much cuter then marie roses
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>>135933748
Nah, minimize is hold A. If you hold X she does a different pose.
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>>135933731
>Opponent switches to supposed main and gets bodied
>>
What's your favorite support?

Emolga/Fennekin still seem the most useful to me.
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>>135933806
vgptg m8
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>>135933838
>Mewtwo
Fucking barrier man
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more gengar

still no sign of Brax sleeping

>>135933640
Yes
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>>135933945
>those boxes around his eyes
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>>135932102
>I haven't unlocked Shadow Mewtwo yet, so I can't do that, sorry!
Could you just do it against chandelure or gengar then?

Also, forgot to mention: In addition to using bulk up, having a support mon give up a damage up status, and being at low health for rage to kick in, be in burst mode
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>>135933894
>using reshiram the split second after your opponent jumps
>>
>its an allblue 2-0s you before you can even activate burst episode

this guy had to have the jp version
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>>135933495
seriously, who's bright idea was it to give a character a projectile that covers ground and air?
>>
What is the point of Y moves in duel phase?

The way this game works it seems like using anything other than your longest range normals is stupid because if they counter you can possibly out range it, and if they don't X normals typically give the best combos
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>it's a Neos City (Night) episode
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>>135933945
if someone made that up i will be very disappointed.
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>>135933894
E/F is pretty good for pretty much everyone. I haven't gotten all the assists yet, but I like Cubone/Diglett as Gengar. Both scare the opponent into blocking (especially Diglett), so Hypnosis combos can start. Also it's super easy to combo off both in the field phase.
>>
>>135933937
I forgot you could use that in the field phase holy shit I'm fucking stupid

Alright, what are his getup options?
>>
>>135934095
>Bounce somebody while Rotom's out
>Rotom activates
>>
>>135933731
Personally if I don't rematch it's just because I want to have a chance to fight another pokemon
and if you're the gardifag I keep getting I hold no contempt for you
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>>135934089
That sounds a bit complicated for me to do, and I"m barely conscious at the moment so I can't do that tonight. I'll probably do it tomorrow if I'm in the thread, sorry.
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>>135934313
>cut out the part where he says Bye and sinks into the ground.
Why
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>>135933945
Can you get Machamp's intro where he does this?
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>>135934243
>it's a dragon's nest episode
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>>135934379
Because I didn't want to record the results screen after "WIN"

>>135934436
Yes

This is going to be the last one I'm doing for the night after the anon who wanted Chandelure Flexing
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>>135933369
Ricesnot is a fucking genius and I will have that be ignored
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>>135934264
I don't play him, but I assume it's the same as everyone else's, since getting up is automatic and you go back to a neutral position. Probably throw out a jab if someone is in front of you and immediately guard afterwards.
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>>135934473
>Kirby sucks up Joseph Joestar.png
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>>135934473
>It's a Shadow Mewtwo boss battle episode
>>
New thread?
>>
how the FUCK are you meant to punish a dig spamming garchomp
they can do SO MANY THINGS OUT OF DIG IT'S FUCKING BROKEN
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>fightin against pikachu
>about to lose last round
>lightning strike about to hit me that will with no doubt end the match
>lag hits just before causing a freeze frame just before the moment of my death

Also don't forget to but the vs code in the new OP
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>>135934845
Guess right
>>
>>135934845
easy, dont play a zoner
>>
>>135934845
Counter and/or block + grab
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>>135934845
You have to get the read.

How have they been coming out of dig the last few times? I don't wanna be that 'lol adapt xd' fag but you don't have any other option.

If they're mixing it up you're fucked, just guess.
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>>135934953
they he just cancels fucking dig and gets a critical grab
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>>135934845
guess right or eat 1/3 of your health :^)
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>>135933032
Amazing, can't wait to see the finished product!
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>>135935028
literally guess and hope you get it right
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>>135935028
Definitely don't counter, theres no reason to counter it. If you block the actual dig attack its punishable as fuck.

Theres a fuckload of recovery if they cancel it where Garchomp slides along the ground after he comes up so when you see that, react.
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>>135933640
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>>135934867
>>135935045
>>135935096
that's just so fucking stupid
guess correctly 500 times or you lose
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>>135934473
>It's a Phos Volcano episode
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B R A I X E N
R
A
I
X
E
N
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>>135935168
Perfect.
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>>135935250
HOW DO I GET IN THROUGH THE ZONING?
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>tfw no cute chandelure gijinka gf
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>>135935284
CADC
>>
New thread where
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>>135935320
THE SHOTS ARE SO RAPID!
>>
>>135935206
Just don't blame the character, it's the shitter behind him.
>>
New thread
>>135935385
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>>135935361
CADC is the hot new meme, everyone knows Zoners have ways around that
>>
>>135935361
Shield -> move/dash up -> shield/CADC -> move up -> repeat until in range -> attack/grab
>>
It feels like such a guessing game when it comes to the wakeup game, they should have probably made grabs techable.
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>>135935680
Grabs are shitty already, game is so bare bones, there needs to be more cancel options
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>>135935680
i bitched about that before, but the game would be hilariously broken if grabs were techable like normal
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>>135932694
The fuck is wrong with you people. I play Braixen cus I like her moveset but the fact that most of the people who play her are sick fucks is making me want to change my main
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>>135931531
I actually prefer yours more
>>
guys im actually suicidal. im crying right now actually i haven't been able to go to sleep yesterday but every time that fucking announcer talks shit to me I just lose it. i don't want to listen to it anymore. i know im a punching bag man can we please stop it you're going to kill me and why is grabbing in this game so shit i literally fucking pressed like ten times close in person and i could not grab is it honestly my fault please don't talk shit any more im too weak here and in real life i can't bare it anymore i know im a book people read i am a book

im a book

i get it

im a punching bag i get it

im bad

i get it
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