Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

Remember the saving cards meme?

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>>135685672
got you fampai

No ranks 8 will be announced before iTOS goes live.

How will I know if Dragoon gets its classic FF jump at circle 2?
How will I know if Plague Doctor becomes invincible with Healing Factor 10?
How will I know if Gematria will finally become useful with Kabbalist Circle 2 ?
How will I know if Alchemists will stop being shit at Circle 3?
How will I know if Centurion is coming back?

So many questions, so little time.

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Are there any good combat transformations for Druid?

Also when you transform into a monster, does it take your own stats into account? or you instantly get the monster's stats and your stats don't matter?

What do I need to do to be a rich crafter.

Which class unlocks the expensive powerful crafted stuff like blacksmith back in RO,.

Man, if there was anything I realize after seeing the OP, I kind of miss the different starting towns for different classes

It made every class and city had a different unique feel while you had the freedom to level whichever area you felt was good

Meanwhile I feel in ToS, the culture and stuff felt quite uniform whereever you went

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>>135686007

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>>135686007
>What do I need to do to be a rich crafter.
play a different game
>Which class unlocks the expensive powerful crafted stuff like blacksmith back in RO,.
none in TOS

>>135685912
you dont

>>135686007
squire

>>135685836
quick reminder for all the BRs getting in on the game
DON'T save your exp cards, you're literally wasting your time when you could be grinding higher level mobs with better exp
anyone who says to save your exp cards for crucial points in the leveling process is lying

>>135685912
they said they're going to add centurion back when they add content involving large parties, probably something with 10< players at a time

>>135685836
I dont get why would you save cards, so long as you werent capped or near cap, wouldnt the exp cards go into your overall EXP needed to cap anyway? Geez

>>135686080
>>135686107
>>135686117

How do you get richer than the other jew? Buy underpriced and sell overpriced? Keeping within the 5 daily listing and 10% charge?

>>135686247
that's exactly it, see
>>135686209

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ahaeuhaeu

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>>135686209

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what to do in 10 days?

>>135686271
>Buy underpriced and sell overpriced?
no.
many items are untradeable after buying.
can not freely chose selling price.

and always 48 hour wait time for silver if someone buys your items

no playin the market in TOS

>>135686437
don't say anything anon I'm doing this for us

>>135686247

Because mobs give less exp if you're higher level than them, until eventually they give no exp. Certain level ranges had good grinding spots, and others had really bad grinding spots.

The idea was, you grind while the grinding is good, and when the grinding gets bad, you use cards.

This probably wont apply anymore though, since they added more ways to gain exp.

>>135686464

So whoever finds more drops? Farming efficiency is the route to wealth?

>>135686457

Freeze yourself.

Or dedicate the next 10 days of your life to figuring out how to make POOR FUCKING SHITS suffer.

>>135686247
It's actually pretty simple.

Mob exp has a penalty based on level difference. At 20 levels of difference you're only getting 20% of the original experience. EXP cards give the same exp regardless of level.
There are several level gaps between dungeons, so if you do dungeons at their respective levels up to 15-20 levels above and use cards only when there's no dungeon in that range, you're actually getting more net experience than someone who just uses all cards as they come.

>>135686541
dungeons+missions give sometimes nice silver
or/and
farm openworld mobs for items or silver
or/and
sell many crafting crap drops from monsters. ppl need them for daily quests and some recipe

>>135686646

With a token we should outlevel the BR $10 guys so hopefully we won't see too many of them

>>135686763

Yeah, but they still got the game delayed by a week.

FUCKING

BR

POORFAG

ENTITLED

SHITS

>>135686686

So are there crafting classes. Are they unprofitable?>>135686834

>>135686763
BR $5 guys you mean. Maybe they will all get the most expensive pack even.

>>135686834
>entitled
>Yeah, but they still got the game delayed by a week.

aight

>>135685920
so no one plays druid outside of carnivory abusers?

Have any of you tried out Kabbalist?

Is Plague Doctor just a better choice than being a Jew?

>>135686834

And we have to see them in 1 mth rather than 3....

uymmy dicks

Who F2P here?

>>135686886
everyone can craft gear
>get recipe
>press Sit Button
>press "craft"
>select recipe+material
>click craft


crafting classes are all kinda rekt

>>135686902

They couldn't pay up and didn't want to wait 3 months. Yeah they're entitled, and rather than fucking deal with it, they had to shit on it for everyone else.

I'm the entitled one because I was willing to pay to get the game early? The fuck you talking about?

>>135686965
Apples and oranges.

Have any of you guys tried buying it using someone on your account in a cheaper region or does Steam have some safeguard against it?

>>135687115
last thread ppl said that does not work. go look it up

>>135686965
Trap or Cannelle went Kabbalist, 7fold and Ein Sof are pretty good.
Other skill are meh to useless, at least until R8 comes around.

>>135686834
>>135687012
Seriously I was looking forward to 3 months without any of the standard plebs that infest f2p games.

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Can't wait for my BRos to swarm this game

>>135686905
Most people just use the Panto transformation for the movement speed buff. Might be some other cool stuff hidden somewhere, like this permanent immunity one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX16tHPCGIE. Until they get nerfed of course.

>>135687251

At least we get a month... Sort of.

>>135686682
>>135686528
Hmm, well ok, I think I will do that instead, by the time I reached C4 in iCBT2 took its toll and I ran out of quests and grinding took forever

>>135687331

$10 wall is too short. Trump would not approve. They'll jump the wall.

>>135687306

>BRs
>Getting ahead
>When tokens cost real money

We should all make a deal, don't sell tokens to BRs.

>>135687024
right here man

don't have a credit card

>>135687463
>he thinks he gets to choose who he trades with

>>135687463
>We should all make a deal, don't sell tokens to BRs.
You sell Tokens in Market. You dont know who buys it. Seller name is not shown anymore.

>>135687438

A few will manage to jump it, but these people who do may as well be cripples in game. No tokens, no pets, no huge TP. We pretty much got to make the first guild in the game and proceed to just shit on any BRs we find.

>>135687316
thanks, by any chance you know if transformations get some sort of bonus from your own stats? or you just get the stats from the enemies you transform into?

>>135687237
Trap went Cata, Cannelle went Plague Doc, as far as I know.

>>135650126
Are there open source emulator work?

I did significant work on eA before it became rA. I don't know a lot about reverse engineering, but I do know a lot about C.

>>135687583
>>135687545

So just don't sell them?

>>135687630
No idea.

>>135687463
don't worry I plan to rush farm to buy all tokens before the flood gates open

>>135687624

I rarely join guilds but i'll do it for /vg/ lets all get together and make the founder's server free from scum. BRs and every other disruptive f2p player.

>>135687771
for 1 on 1 Trade both players need to have a Token active. (in kTOS)

and
https://treeofsavior.com/FAQ/?c=0&s=token

>- We previously stated that Tokens would allow for 1:1 trading, however currently 1:1 trading is not available.

>>135687771
Good luck with that, mate...

>>135687782

Yes! We should all buy up all the tokens on the market. If possible drive the price of them up to the point that it's not possible for free users to realistically buy them.

It's a shame you cannot buy and resell them.

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>>135687463
There's no stopping

does Fade delete the threat from enemies who already are following you, or does it completely negate the thread you get from enemies? like allowing you to run around the map without agroing shit?

does fade make pets ignore you in pvp?

>>135687920
>or does it completely negate the thread you get from enemies? like allowing you to run around the map without agroing shit?
Yes

>does fade make pets ignore you in pvp?
Dunno

>>135687718
Are you an eAthena contributor? A good one?

My friends and I could use the help of someone who's well versed in the old eAthena emulator. Could you post some contact info?

>>135687782

So we farm normal drops in this game and sell to NPC?

How to get silver in the TOS world?

>>135687896

I was a AH PVPer in WOW and made enough gold to play for free for life. I agree we should hit the AH hard and maintain control.

>>135687851
>>135687771
oh, read that wrong

>>135687976
Are you talking about for a ToS project?

I don't really have any interest in working on anything RO related ever again.

If you put contact information that would be better for me. Thanks.

>>135688007

Well, people with tokens (and people who buy the $50 pack) will have a huge advantage in silver farming potential. It wouldn't be too hard for a decent sized group of them to effectively control the market for tokens.

I mean, what are the poor people going to do? Cry then can't afford tokens and beg us to sell them cheaper?

>>135688156

Join our /vg/ guild!

>>135687976
None of the people that worked on eA knew what they were doing so thats asking a lot. The closest is probably theultramage.

>>135688156
>100 anon are not selling token or buy them all
>200 forum and reddit niggas dont care and sell them for low price
sure sure. 10/10 plan

>>135687176

Seemed like they were sure a VPN would get you banned but actually having someone in Russia buy it and pay in rubles didn't really have a solid conclusion of whether it'd work or not.

Never played Ragnarok

Is this game worth it on steam

>>135688259
200 x $10, guess IMC is rolling in dosh

>>135688468

Its dead now, was and still is great. Join us in TOS.

>>135688259
Sounds about right, from what basics I know of economy, this is what happens in a free market, which is what most MMO AHes are

If one really wants to control the market, you'd need to become some kind of huge cartel/guild first

Speaking of that, I hear from a friend about how back in RO, his guild was so powerful that they can threaten other guilds into their demands lest they just roll in and take over their castle in WoE

>>135688468
If you think it looks good.

>>135688470
Sport Cars aint cheap, buddy

>>135688259

Yeah, and when they sell them at lower prices, we just buy them up.

What they going to do? Keep spending real money on something that is decreasing and decreasing in price to the point where it's not worth selling anymore?

The idea isn't to buy them all. It's to buy the cheapest ones so the price stays high. Too high for poorfags to buy.

>>135688141
No, not for ToS. My friends and I run an eAthena server. It's been worked on by dozens of people over the years and there are things in it we have no idea how or why they work because it's pretty much lost technology. We could use someone to give us advice.

Are you comfortable using facebook? I have my social account I used when I was a GM.

>>135688702
Sorry, I'm not interested.

Is the download on Steam the actual pre-load for release?

>>135688694
not gonna works. also a waste of time and cash.

>buying a token a day, keeps the BR away

does anyone know the difference between the 3 early access options steam gives?

Downloadable Content For This Game
$49.99 USD
Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 1
$29.99 USD
Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 2
$9.99 USD
Founder's Server : Exclusive Access 3

>>135688568

While MMO economies are capitalist free market. The efficient market hypothesis fails.

Supply gluts and shocks exist everywhere. Restrictions like 1-5 item and 10-30% cut are going to make it a very different story.

If you are selling 1 token at 30% fee, I can afford to sell at below your cost price and make profit because of 5 token and 10%. Its simple things like that.

Also depending on restocking ability and such, your competitors will need time to restock and can be vulnerable to a short term buyout.

I volunteer to assist guild /vg/ in AH PVP if TOS allows for it.

>>135688738
We won't ask you to do anything. We just want advice with a few things.

How do you actually sell the scrolls made by the Pardoner skill? Do you have to sell them one at a time on the auction house?

>>135688852
look at them, nigga?

>>135688924
yea just saw the picture. im retarded

>>135688543
>>135688578

Kay then

Which package should I buy, and what benefits are there for playing earlier than normal (As in, is there a special beta-only item or title for testing?)

whats the 60 day token?

>>135687624
Because P2W makes you good!

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I going Archer1 > QS3 > Sapper 2 > Cannoner


i just need to find a nice skill synergy build

>>135689101
why sapper

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>>135689057
60 days of getting your dick sucked

>>135689101
Why QS 3 when the canononer's main damage skill is on a 5 second cooldown and thus not getting as much mileage out of running shot?

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>>135689057

>>135688871
Strawman logic, you have a token but don't want to activate it and rather sell it instead?

>>135689034
100 TP = $9

TP is cash shop points

Cash shop items are here: http://www.tosbase.com/database/cash-shop/

If you plan to buy TP, buying the $50 option is economical, since you get more than $50 worth of TP, a skill/stat reset potion (stat reset potion is normally unobtainable), and 60 months of token for free.

>What is token
It gives extra benefits. See >>135650002


The $50 DLC is pretty fucking stacked.

But I think you can buy the $9.99 version, enter the server, see if you like the game. If you do, I'm pretty sure you can still buy the $50 version before the server goes F2P?

Whats the set max price for tokens in korea?

>>135688915
you can sell them in bulk. count as a single listing on AH.

>>135689353
>stat reset potion is normally unobtainable
Oh god this combined with no class changes is going to make my autism unbearable.

Whats tradable in the TP shop? Can you transfer TP to other players? Thinking of getting another founders pack for my friend but they don't really want to be in 'debt' to me in case they don't like the game.

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Let's say I cast Carnivory rank 10 as a full INT char with a good magical rod, and as full STR char with a good magical rod

how much damage would I be losing from not being specced into INT? like half? not that much? much more?

>>135689487
In KR you can trade tokens.

In iTOS you probably can, can't see why it'd change, but we have no confirmation yet.

If they spend the TP on tokens and give them to you, you'd actually come out ahead, I think. Depending on the tier you buy them.

>>135689381
The first month, 800k
Second month 1.2m
Right now 1.5m to 2m

>$20 USD for a token
>for a korean kike factory that was thrown out of beta
>that is currently in the "milk the players before we run away" phase
>I'm in Canada
Uhmmm

See you in April guys

>>135689557
Look at the damage formula.
https://github.com/vyne1/tos-mechanics

Sometimes looking at the skill specific damage formula helps too, but not really in this case.

https://tos.neet.tv/skills/40902

>>135689610
So 2m is the highest price a jew can set the token price or is that the price set by the market?

>>135689750
depends on some stuff like last selling price. will go up and down all the time.

>>135689175
for the terrain control the Stakes and Detonate traps, i also will try to work with claymores.

>>135689280
it's all about the stones baby

>>135689629
>that is currently in the "milk the players before we run away" phase
What's giving you this idea?

>>135689801
>system made for a cartel

>>135689823
These points suck.

Your build sucks.

Play it anyways though, it'd probably be fun and I'm sure it's still viable.

>>135689101
Sounds fun desu senpai

Is Bokor salvageable at all? Has it ever been not-garbage?

>Had a mission run with a Lv 279 Cleric -> Priest C3 -> Monk C3
Koraen autism

>>135689823
If you want to play it that way, getting Rogue for Capture is better.
The amount of stuff you can snatch and turn against the casters is quite a lot.

>>135689887
what points ? the stones or the traps ?

Stone shot can stun for a good amount of time

Traps as I said is more for terrain control and i dont really know if i gonna use claymore

>>135689353
>and 60 months of token for free

Holy shit, IMC is going bankrupt.

>>135690030
inb4
>20-40 posts why his build is good and you suck

fuck this thread full of shit. im gonna sleep

>>135690071
just ride with it bro

>>135689610

Historically in korean (diff market.demographic,etc) looks like the value of tokens appreciate. You could buy them and get richer over time.

>>135690098
fucking lol, oops

>>135690004
>Has it ever been not-garbage?

Before they fixed immunity + Revenged Sevenfold making you an invincible monster who reflected amplified damage back to attackers.

Remember

>buying a token a day, keeps the BR away.

>>135690165

S'just 5 years.

>>135690070
i was thinking about that

it all depends if i gonna lvl pavise or not

>>135690071
Well your point about "terrain control" doesn't really make sense to me. It seems like a PVP thing.

But stone shot is not a PVP thing because it is a CC desu. So it is contradictory.

But I think your build is worth trying. I would love to see a QS3 cannoneer myself, and sapper is good filler.

Just do it man, im curious.

OMG GAME IS OUT BUT WHY IS THERE A FREE OPTION F2P PLAYERS CAN PLAY IT NOW TOO?

Can I stack AoE attack ratio for Pardoner's decatose and pray for instant kills on large groups of mobs or does it not work that way?

>>135690220
You people really overestimate Token's utility.

Without personal trading it's far from mandatory.

>>135690329
>But stone shot is not a PVP thing because it is a CC desu. So it is contradictory.

are you RETARDED? LMAO

>>135690460

I suspect the trading part of it will be used to form token only trading communities.

>>135690151
>You could buy them and get richer over time.
Buy you cant resell them.

>>135690329
Here's a Ranger-Rogue-Cannoneer in action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf08bJFnW7s
Seems decent.

>>135688694
>we just buy them up
>What they going to do? Keep spending real money on something that is decreasing and decreasing in price to the point where it's not worth selling anymore?
You seem to be confusing two different parallel worlds here.

Enjoy your 50 year supply of tokens. I'll be here to laugh at you when the price goes back to the equilibrium point and you run out of silver.

>>135690521
>>135687851
No Trade for anyone in iTOS

https://treeofsavior.com/FAQ/?c=0&s=token
>- We previously stated that Tokens would allow for 1:1 trading, however currently 1:1 trading is not available.

>>135690558
>until imc enables token trading
kek, only a matter of time really

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I have 45,99€ ready to use and i was waiting a little for this game
Merchants,shill me on the game and founder pack, why i shouldn't burn my money on the incoming Dark Souls?

>>135690151
Depends on inflation actually. they may sell for less early on but that is because silver itself is harder to get early on. Another factor that contributes to its rise in price in Korea is the fact that the game is dead so less and less people are willing to spend real money on it lowering supply and raising demand. Speaking of which since there will be so many people with $50 packs the supply of tokens will be superfluous early on and due to undercutting I expect its price to start off quite low until the game starts to die.

>>135690334
YOU CAN RUN THE GAME IDIOT

BUT LETS SEE YOU GETTING INSIDE THE SERVER

Should I hold on to using a token until I get to a high enough level to do dungeons?

>>135690498
He means CC is borderline worthless in PvP because in the open world everyone uses dispellers and thus are immune to rank 1 debuffs, and in the arena the chances of the enemy team having a Plague Doctor is 1-in-always and Bloodletting makes the party immune to rank 1 and 2 debuffs.

Stun is a rank 1 debuff, by the way.

>>135690329
original quarrel here

what do you mean with CC desu ?

>>135690660
They are [Untradeable] after buying
can not in 1to1 trade too

>>135690334
If you don't buy any founder pack at log in the game tell you:"Fuck off, buy a pack or come back the 28 April"

do I really need to invest in DEX as a STR character? or can I overcome accuracy problems with gear? magical shit can't be blocked or evaded, feels way superior since it doesn't need the stat investment of DEX.

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>>135690113
It was a reasonable build before Chaplain. That guy might've already been a Monk before it comes out. He probably regretted going Monk too.

>>135690809
Yes. since you told us your class and your build we can answer your question.

>>135690671

Cos you should get both but dark souls isn't cute like TOS.

>>135690650
Sweet satisfaction knowing that I've denied 50 years of playtime to the poorfags, time WELL SPENT.

>>135690742

rank 1 if i let with one point right ?

what if i put like 10 points in stone shot it becomes a rank 10 debuff ?

>>135690617
Such ridiculous damage. She must be loaded with good stuff.

What's the best class(es) for ripping and tearing?

>>135690878
cleric2, diev1, paladin 3 then something else

>>135691045

Rogue seems to be an archer adv class....

Is that the only way to stealth and backstab ppl and be an evil PVP ganker?

Does stat/skill reset potion really cost money in this game? Does the game seriously not give one to you?

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>>135690881
Dark Souls can be cute too
But right now i have some serious expense incoming and i am not a good goy enough for both game

>>135691171
Only Skills reset is in cashshop.
in KR they gave one of each from events.
there are no free resets (except rare events)

>>135691235

I agree but TOS is way cuter. For me TOS is easily above DS3. We haven't had a good RO clone in decades, we had BB just last year.

>servers open up on my birthday
Feels good.

>>135691171
That's how it is in most f2p games.
I know, the few that are nice enough to have them for free have spoiled me too.

>>135691336
>BB?

What's stopping me from buying the most expensive founder packs close to launch which has the un-obtainable accessories, register them to my account and then refund it?

Do they take my Accessories away?

>>135690991
>Being this petty
You must live a pretty miserable life. What made you like this? How many friends did you have as a kid?

>>135691405

Bloodborne (we now call it the soulsborne series after all)

Alternatively Scholar of the First Sin was 1.5 yr ago.

>>135689827
He mistyped.

They're going to drive away.

>>135691457
i tried this with devilian. you get banned, but no biggie, right?

>>135690996
No, debuff ranks are specific to each skill and so far no attributes or levels modify them.

They also don't seem to follow any logical pattern. Death Sentence, that 10 min cooldown Oracle C2 skill (rank 7) is a rank 1 debuff. Any cheap Cure can remove it.

>>135691457
They'd ban you m8. They'd likely treat it like credit card fraud.

>>135691457
>This DLC is non-refundable.
and maybe a Ban?

>>135691457

Do you really think they can't?

Any system admin can do it.

Wait, why is this game out on steam already? Didn't it say servers open on 29th?

>>135685679

Orsha is better.

>>135691652
Try clicking on the servers and see if you can start playing.

Link me a video, tell to me, PROVE TO ME, that this game is fun. NOW!

>>135691818
So why is it in Release tab when it's not released yet? Shit's wack.

>>135691830
its not

>>135691652
cuz u cant read, nigga?

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>>135691830

>>135691469
ToS doesn't have an end game, thats my end game. People aren't all rainbows and horses some people just wanna see the world burn.

>>135691903
burning every tier 1 thru 3 EXP card he's saved up

>>135691903

How does kissing level you up? Is this yuri power?

>>135691903
They're leveling up in public

>>135691830
It's /cute/.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeBISLpW8N8

>>135691457
If you just wanna be a dick you can buy the DLC, spend all TP on tokens and sell them cheap in the market, then get a refund.

They will ban your account but reversing all transactions will be a pain in their ass and I doubt they'd do it. In theory you could do this with multiple accounts until Steam banned your credit card from being used.

>>135692013
It does not
>Yuri
the right kissfag is a boychar

>>135691830
>biggest snowball.webm

>>135692103

It was too bright.... maybe its a trap though.

>>135692235
That guy was not a trap. We had a few other tho.

>>135690617
what is the skill that have this green bar on the ground? it seems like claymore but he's not a sapper.

>>135691830
>needing persuasion to do anything
You have your own life and preferences, live and go by them.

>>135692235
>not recognizing Kyun x Protagonist

Hellô reddit

>>135692235

So whats causing the explosions and how did they level?

>>135692348
Kyun's a girl right? I remembered someone confessing to 'her'

Can we discuss how terrible the engine is?

The effects, textures, and lighting are all exceedingly simplistic but are more than capable of destroying framerates on hardware that should be overqualified multiple times over.

>>135692360
They use many
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/?item_name=exp+card&search=

>>135692321
Feint, it also has a high chance of turning mobs around.

>>135692360
must have hacked the DIC

>>135692447

So these are boxed up XP? From the cash shop?

what's currently the best class to dish out damage

So they did not confirm an EA release date yet?
Also is cryo3 chrono3 as good as people meme it out to be?

>don't know if reddit or newfags

>>135692557
>There aren't any reddit spies in here Anon you're just being paranoid

>>135691523
uhn well that sucks

thks for the info

>>135692583
Mememememementalist

>>135692583
Archer tree, with wizard tree a close second. Think Cryomancer is somehow rigged to get maximum bonus off a low level, level 1 skill

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Really dropping the ball not listing the ten dollar version instead.

>>135691523
How can I see the debuff ranks of each debuff?

Thanks a lot

So I hear memelanders got nerfed to shit, is there any truth to that?
I was just going to roll that again

>>135692826
Dropping the ball by making it one of the top sellers?

>>135692826
Man what does the ten dollar version even get you

The only thing actually worth buying is a token, which given the limitations you pretty much NEED unless you're super casual and don't give a shit about being a third class citizen. The $10 pack gets you almost a token in TP.
Like, what's the point.

>>135692859
They're back to their iCBT2 tier.
Used to be top tier after kCBT3 Skyliner 0cd change. Now it's 15s cd.
Hop3 is the new meme if you want 0cd skill.

>>135692921

$10 is literally just so you can play. The TP it gives is enough for 1 costume, a pack of stats on hats, or some exp boosts. That's it. If you want an actual token, you need to spend another $9, at which point it's silly and you may as well get the next tier up.

>>135693051
>$4

XD

>>135692836
Mostly by testing.

Cure removes all rank 1 debuffs.
Indulgentia removes all rank 1 and 2 debuffs.
Fumigate removes all rank 1, 2 and 3 debuffs.
Dispeller and Prophecy prevent all rank 1 debuffs.
Bloodletting prevents all rank 1 and 2 debuffs.
Beak Mask prevents all rank 1 and 2 debuffs and gives you 80% resistance to rank 3 debuffs.

There are some skills which debuff rank currently can't be determined by testing like that. Iron Hook for example can't be removed by Fumigate, so it could possibly be a rank 4 debuff or maybe not even fall into these categories.

>>135693145

Still getting a worse deal.

>>135692889
Dropping the ball by lowering the number of clicks.

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I'm not playing unless Cattly is playing.

>>135693251
kys

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I haven't really followed ToS since CBT2 ended, what have the major changes been in terms of class balance and other things. I heard that there was another starting zone which is nice. Is there anything important people should know?

>>135692425
There was a basic cloud in the higher level mines floor that dropped my framerate lower than a large crowd spamming skills.

>>135693208

I know. IMC is god tier jews. 2nd pack is worth $40. 1st pack is worth $100+ but $10 is worth $10.

Can someone help with stats? This is the build I'm going for
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/fxy8ow3mde/

I just don't know how much to put in STR and other stats.

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What are they doing?

>>135693251
Do you really think that penniless NEET can afford to play? He is literally poorer than a BR.

>>135693557
Testing out initial patches probably

>>135693318
read op you reddit spy

>>135692557
they are quest reward, you dense motherfucker

>>135692613
>- Services Schedule
>1. Founder's Server Open : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 02:00 AM (EST)
>2. Free to Play Server : Thursday, April 28, 2016 (EST)
http://store.steampowered.com/app/452430/

>>135693318
http://pastebin.com/gRWPfJam
http://pastebin.com/u/sunhwapark
http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/
maps up to 28x or so ingame. L280 is cap

>>135693557
idling in the empty server select screen

>TOPSELLER

dead on arrival, am I right?

>>135693557
Collecting autism bucks.

>>135693557
Launcher and server selection counts as "playing" to Steam.

>>135693623
>>1. Founder's Server Open : Tuesday, March 29, 2016 02:00 AM (EST)
>>2. Free to Play Server : Thursday, April 28, 2016 (EST)
I have no words

>>135693935
That's fine, come back at 29th

>>135692921
The TP can be used for character slots and you get a month of early access.

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QUICK! Any future cannoneer here?

Archer > Ranger2 > Wugu3 > Cannon or
Archer > Ranger3 > Wugu2 > Cannon?

>>135693554
Why that random Squire rank?

Mostly STR
DEX until you get about 300 crit rate from Finestra 15 + gems + gears.
As much CON as needed so that you don't die in two-three hits from bosses.
125 SPR if 50% CC resist sounds good to you. Probably not if you want max deeps.

what's the best wizard build now? i was c2 pyro, c2 linker, sorc, necro before, is that still the best you can do or is it really all about cryo and featherfoot now?

>>135693554
>>135694198
Also your skill points allocation is weird.

>able to learn 2 attributes simultaneously.

What does this mean.

What is the purpose of token?

>>135694305
You can learn 2 attributes at the same time

>>135694215
>best wizard build
>best
>build
>in a fucking build-a-class MMO
Fucking stop
1) due to all the patches and changes, the "meta" of cbt2 is broken
2) stop following cookie cutters
play the fucking game for what it's selling point is, crafting your own hero

>>135694381

>>135689309

>>135694381
What is the purpose of life?

>>135694107
Cannonner seems to go well with Ranger because of Steady Aim, but now that it's nerfed it seems less important.

>>135693935
>game starts at 11am
perfect, ill get my name while all the normies sleep

>>135694519
To pass butter

>>135694435
I haven't played yet, Does this mean you get twice as many attribute points? Is it that learning an attribute takes a certain amount of time? pls help

>There are people who buy founders without reading and asking why it's not out.

Damn, IMC is making bank off idiots. Do people really buy things without reading what they are buying?

It's also strange how it's shown "released". I'm not sure if it's because steam can't sell DLC without the game being "released" or it's just IMC being IMC again.

>>135694681
It will make sense when you play the game.

>>135694683
You think rich BRs and rich SEAs bother learning english?

>>135694515
yea except

the wiz meta hasnt changed at all so

>>135694515
>This

Every build have their own weaknesses and strengths. Game forces you to play with other classes. Creating a build is based on your preference and/or playstyle.

>also, I don't help tosbase builds. I always assume you're a redditor or a forum faggot so go back to where you came from.

>>135694756
warlock is kill

>>135694683
ArcheAge was the same with the founder packet thing.

Started playing on korean server today, no lag and koreans are actually helpful even if you speak in english.

Also if you get lucky with phone numbers, you don't even have to pay for a korean account, unlike the international rip-off.
>Paying for a beta

>>135694867
Nice try, but we'll play your class too!

>>135692921
>>135693051
We don't know how much the Token will cost in the English version yet, do we?

They could be generous and make it just enough to buy with the $10 pack but I'm being too hopeful, aren't I?

>>135694923
Lemme translate your post
>please play in kToS
>im running out of fellow international friends
>stuck playing with gooks

How do stats work? Do people do ratios like STR:DEX 4:1 or is it entirely dependent on the skill build?

>>135695039

Nah m8

play the abo class

sniff petrol and sleep on roads all day

>>135694923
>no lag

either you are a liar or you are terrible

>>135695109
It's dependent on skill build

Do people tend to have SP limitations? Swordman. Is it worth getting INT for additional SP? Or should I limit my active abilities to 2-3 only based on SP pool.

I notice you can learn a lot of attack skills under the swordman tree with moderate cooldown per skill.

Spamming different abilities between CD could realistically increase your dps by a country mile.

>>135695090

It's almost definitely going to be more than 150 TP and less than 200 TP.

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Anyone else just doesn't give a shit about the Founder bonuses and just felt like supporting IMC after 6 years of development without asking shit from us and giving us 2 betas very early in development (which KR devs never do)?

>>135695173
INT doesn't even give SP holyfuck

ATTN ALL REDDITORS

https://github.com/vyne1/tos-mechanics

ATTN ALL REDDITORS

>>135694748
Bit rude tbqh. We wouldn't be rich if we never bothered learning English.

>>135694516
So it's just to ease up the leveling grinding and jewing better the game AH/market/whatever system

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>>135692921
A lot of people are still expecting to buy their first token via in game silver, and I'm sure a lot of people are going to be spending their $50 package on TP to buy tokens and sell them for some quick cash for attributes, gear and what not.

At the beginning of the game your silver will be worth a lot, as time goes by more silver gets into the system and silver will become less valuable.

So they had to leave $10 pack players without an instant token, or the token trading process would be discouraged and thus the stage of high valued silver would be harmed as well.

I...I might buy in...help anons...stop me.....

>>135695109

Depends largely on your build.

Almost every class wants a bit of con. Depends on the class, but having no Hp at high levels is going to get you fucked up hard.

Outside of that it depends entirely on your build but you'll probably want to dumb a decent amount into your offensive stat of choice.

>>135695239

Ok so do swordman put pts into the stat that gives more mana?

Is the meta to have 1-2 high level skills or to spam as many as you can between cooldowns.

>>135695298
REMEMBER

PEOPLE WILL LOOK DOWN TO YOU IF YOU'RE NOT A HOGLAN OWNER.

BUY EA PACK 1 NOW

>>135695128
Get a decent connection, the only moment I got lag was when downloading torrents at the same time I was playing.

>>135695098
Nigga, I started playing today after being disappointed by the whole founder's server bullshit, I'm just sharing friendly advice.

>>135695039
They're gone from pvp ladder so I assume its shit

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Is going wizard Cyro Linker2 Chrono2 bad?
I like Linker and chrono both but you get them so late.

>>135694756
>wiz meta hasnt changed at al

>joint penalty quintupling damage hasn't changed
>linkers cooldowns haven't changed
>cryo hasn't been buffed as fuck
>rune caster has not been released
>quick cast hasn't been given 100% uptime
>magic missile didn't become ridiculously strong
>psychic pressure hasn't been given decent aoe attack ratios

Yeah mate I'm sure the wiz meta is the same as icbt2. Wiz 3 sucks, cryo is weak and everyone should go pyro linker sorcerer.

>>135695434
Go Cryo3Chrono3 is much better. You'll thank me once you reach R7.

>>135695239

How do I download from GitHub? Do I need a subscription?

Can you maybe use megaz or mediafire?

>>135695434

Chrono is 3 ranks or nothing.

>>135695208
Yeah, pretty much.

I really like IMC.

>>135695376
>no cute posters
0/10

Redo it.

>>135695568
You blind sonny?

>>135695340
The meta is to chug SP pots, not ruin your stat build with mediocre SPR.
Either you're a priest, or go for the full 125 meme, or you don't at all.

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>>135695376
English a shit
Can be a patrician richfag and a ESL at same time

>>135695661

What is the CD on these? Trying to see if I can support 5 attack skills or not.

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>>135695661
>not ruin your stat build with mediocre SPR.
>He doesn't know about CC resistance

>>135695661
>or go for the full 125 meme

>>135695376
I'm upper class but I'm not cute.

>>135694107
The second one

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I am sold

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>>135695805
>I'm upper class but I'm not cute.

>Not being good looking and posting in /tosg/

>>135695391
Are you playing on Vakarine?
Yeah, I'm gonna miss the cute Koreans when I finally switch to iTOS ;_;

Nobody's asked this question yet: Character limit.

Will it be 4 like in Korea?

avatars in ToS have no nose? how do they breath? through the mouth? all the time?

So I'm pretty close to my ideal build but I just have one question. Is Crown any good? Is it a good mage killer or are more damaging skills better for pvp?

>>135695949
>all the time?

No, they occasionally stop to suck dick.

>>135695946
character limit is based on your lodge
you can buy lodges with higher character limits

>>135695949
through their skin

>>135695949
how about you stop asking so many FUCKING questions and start sucking this dick

>>135695673
>English a shit
English is the best language in the world. I came to this realization when researching other languages to decide what I should try to learn. After spending a few months, I decided to just learn more about english :^)

>>135695374
you can buy Hoglan with silver anyways, 400k isn't that much, unless the game has changed much

>>135696043
That's NOT how it worked in kTOS. I bought a lodge with my bonus TP from the event and it didn't extend me. In iCBT2 it worked the way you described.

>>135696108
400k is quite a bit actually, especially early game. Getting a pet early game is great, as it will level in sync with you.

>>135695720
30 seconds. Buy them from Alchs.

>>135695759
>>135695803
I do know about CC resist, but unless you want to lolipantsu your stat build AND your damage you're not getting decent amounts of it in a swordie build.

>>135696108
>he thinks the rates would be the same as in CBT

>>135696108
400k is a lot in the first week

By the time you get yours, other people's Hoglans will be level 100+, they'll be 400k ahead of you and their team level will be higher than yours, further increasing the exp they gain over you.

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Guy decided not to buy ToS and instead give money to Bernie Sanders, HAHAHAH.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/i-bought-it-who-with-me-3/152104

>>135696108

458k is fairly hefty for your first time pet. It's not something you'll have until you're well into the 100s in terms of level, and even after that it's still a lot to pay for a pet.

>>135696236
Swordsman is the one class that should not skip out on SPR. Dumping 100 points in it isn't a big sacrifice at all.

>>135696238
It's really not that hard to make 400k in kTOS either. Once you get to 100 and you're able to do missions you'll be making 400k every couple days from instances alone.

>>135695391
Wait.

I just mean having a high ping. My connection to the kTOS is stable.

Your "good connection" does not overcome the speed of light. I'm in eastern US. You wanna tell me I can play an autoattack QS with any amount of decency?

If so you are trash!

>>135696385

Just remember, people without tokens get half as many mission runs. Making like 100k a day isn't that good, in those 4 days I'm going to be 50-100 levels higher than you and part of that is due to my pet.

How fun is this game for people who hate mmos?
I used to be real big on these kinds of games back when I was thirteen but after a ton of shitty updates to games I liked (really only like one) I got turned off. My friends really aren't big on these either because they "hate anime" and grinding games yet play warframe for like 400 hours.
Anyway, how fun is this game? Is it the same kind of schlock I've already experienced or is there something more to it? The art style is really drawing me in and the class system seems really cool.

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>>135696295
>>135696260
>>135696238
>>135696162
Velheider is 100k only, and it even has maginally better stats

if you're so desperate for a pet, getting to hunter for a velheider voucher takes like 3 hours, bam free pet.

>>135696510
But it's so ugly it will make your game experience less enjoyable and thus less efficient.

>>135694756
>howwrongami.avi

>>135696508
Quests stop eventually.

I think. Do you actually need to grind at 200+?

>>135696603
No, you do dungeon runs.

>>135696402
I know you meant high ping.
And I did mean what I said, I have no lag (i.e my character responds almost instantly, which means the lag is minimal) so get a better connection instead of calling other people trash.

>>135695939
Yeah Vakarine.
I'll be waiting for the free to play version of iTOS, I just hope it's not full of BRs again because the iCBT2 was fucking awful thanks to them, for the moment I'll stay in kTOS, it may be full of gooks but at least they're cute instead of monkeys.

>>135696510

You don't get pets for their stats. You get them because having one counts as a bonus character, which gives you a higher team level, thus gives you a bonus to exp gained.

People who start with a pet are essentially levelling up two characters at once. By the time they hit level 200, they'll be getting something like 10-12% more exp on all their characters.

>>135695535
>>135695518
Thanks, I was looking at Thaumaturge too, and it seemed nice. Is it being used in the korean betas at all?

>>135696370

For something like

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333444.254555.16263f42668595.1f2f3f

What sort of STR/CON/SPR/DEX should I need? I don't see any accuracy abilities, wonder if I will be able to hit things reliably....

Reminder that anything above the $10 access pack and tokens are a waste of money. In one month when F2P is available, everyone is going to be playing on the F2P server, so unless you want to be playing in the less pop server with other leftover founders, rather just save your money and use this time to try out the game and optimize.

>>135696659
What are you saying is literally impossible, are you tricked by client-side logic on a melee class or something?

Play a wizard or archer, shoot some balls or arrows, tell me that it's instant?

>>135696672

Thaumaturge is great. Just got to work it into your build. In particular they work best with classes that have offensive spells with multiple hits.

>>135696707

Better to be with founders than a bunch of f2p fags who will cause chaos wherever they go.

>>135696582
Wiz3Ele3 is still queen build though.

In fact even more so now.

>>135696707

>Implying

There isn't even a guarantee new servers will be added. It all depends on the demand for them.

>>135696707
Server transfer?

>>135696707
I gurantee that players will be forced into the founders server if they want to play when all the servers are overpop

>>135696707
Tokens and other tradeable cashshop shit will be alot more affordable on the founder server. More supply from people that are actually willing to spend money and potentially less total people playing meaning your money is worth more.

>>135696828
>demand for them
>game hit top sellers on steam 2 minutes after being purchasable

>>135695396
Is this true? I don't even see any patchnotes relating to Warlock, what changed? They used to dominate the ladder.

>>135696745
>literally impossible
How so? I'm not saying I have <10 ms ping, but the character does respond almost instantly to my input.

And I do play swordsman class, but even the shield lobs and bunny hopping come out perfectly, so it's not just the melee attacks like you're saying.

>>135696886

There hasn't been anything else released in a good 2 weeks. Of course it'll become a top seller.

>>135696707
new servers will be opened based on demand
since the game is going to be dead soon, there's probably no chance of them ever opening new servers again.

>>135696667
>10-12% more exp

I have a 240, 196 and 22 and its only 7%

>>135696673
You want at least 100 CON and 100 SPR. As a Hoplite you get Finestra for that +150 crit rate, but you still need DEX.

I am not entirely sure how I'd balance STR and DEX on that build. My method would probably be to start pumping DEX from the start until i am critting reliably, then enough STR until I am comfortable. Work 100 CON first and then raise SPR, occasionally switching back to DEX in order to keep my crit rate high.

And do yourself a favor and get Hop3 before Pelt3.

Why are you getting Bash 5 but not GungHo? Do NOT get more than 1 point in the Pelt buffs. Shield Lob and Butterfly do more damage than Rim/Umbo Blow.

This whole build is fucking retarded. You're skipping out on Spear Throw and Spear Lunge.

What are you doing?

Does the game ever open up? I only played during one of the open betas, got to 40 something, and was really turned off by how linear and railroaded everything was. I come from XI, and the modern styled questhub progression system is a huge turn off for me, and I was hoping ToS would move away from it, but

Also when do the bosses get interesting? All of the ones I'd fought up to 40 or so were near identical

Was thinking of going Archer>Quarrel>Hunter>Scout>Fletcher>Schwarzer Reiter>Musketeer
How shitty would be this rank progress?

>>135696510
Is this real? Why would you pay more for a shitter pet? None of the Guild Taming pets are any good either. Everyone knows Con is the only stat that matters for pets anyway.

>>135697010

Higher level characters give a bigger bonus. 2 level 200 characters give more than 4 level 100 characters.

>>135697028
theres two starting areas now

check the world map
http://www.tosbase.com/game/world-map/

>>135696370
I disagree, I'd rather save those 100 points for STR and just rely on PDs/dashing to avoid CCs.

>>135696673
Before worrying about your stat spread, fix your class build first.
Maxing out pelt or hop is not worth losing rank6/7 classes over.
If you really must, pick one, not both.

>>135697028
You played 40 levels and feel like you had gotten enough of it to make a judgement?

Why do so many people do this? /v/ is full of comments exactly like this. "I only got to level 60" or stuff like that.

The game changes drastically after level 130. The AI is forever dumb, though.

>>135697060
Very. Being jack of all trades isn't good in this game.