/domg/ - Dominions Genera

I fucked up. Here's the actual previous thread -
>>134950273

Second for aboleth traps

third for ichtyids

Fourth for eggplants

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>>135144218

Given that you forgot to change the edition of the thread or the link maybe this should be called the "forgot to script my mages edition"

I'm amazed you had the presence of mind to change the picture.

>>135144834
Yeah, I dun did goofed

A reminder that best dominions players chose cuckolding as their fetish of choice.

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>>135144834
that feel when you accidentally leave out one communion slave and none of your big battlefield buffs go up and your mages spend the fight spamming phantasmal warriors instead of thunderstrikes and shimmering fields.

Sorry for bumping into your army like that, C'tis. I just wanted that province and the Man fort that's next to mine.
Also holy shit, 20 earth gems is enough to send a doom horror at you.

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>>135143440
/domg/ games currently waiting for pretenders

>EA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=standardeagame
Map: Realm of Roaring Cave Rhinos
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Players: (6/11)
Tir na n'Og
Fomoria
Caelum
T'ien Ch'i
Xibalba
Arcoscephale

>MA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SpringHawks
Map: Random with ~15 provinces per player
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Ermor is banned apparently
Players: (3/11)
Ulm
Mictlan
Sceleria


>LA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EdibleGloves
Map: RiverlandsGC
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Players: (6/12)
Atlantis
Ulm
Midgard
Agartha
Bogarus
C'tis

>>135135640
I-I'm not that weak...
Although if you mean sail literally, then it seems there's two cases of war already. The attack against me looked fairly planned out.

>>135146395
>forgetting wittymemename
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
Starting monday or tuesday.

>EdibleGloves still hasn't started
Whew, talk about a LOW ENERGY game.

>>135143000
I've been playing the game for years and always thought it was horrormark. That's pretty frightening.

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>>135146819
I swear I sent my pretender in like a fortnight ago. Everyone is tied up with meme games like Flatus, Armemegeddon and the nationgen one.

>>135146750
My bad, I didn't comb the entire last thread, I just reposted the ones from the top that hadn't been filled.

>>135147012
It's fine. I just enjoy feeling persecuted.

>>135143000
>the severity of the horror attack depends on what they're casting. If you put up a big global, the caster better be an immortal and hopefully something like a demilich that gets one shot, because it's not going to beat the Eater of Gods. If it's forging a 10 gem item, it's going to go up against a handful of lesser horrors and a water bottle might be enough.
You can get a doom horror on a low cost item and you can get lesser horrors while casting globals.
Gemcost matters, but to a limited extent. Luck and chassis matter more in my experience, big casters tend to be heroes and gods and as such tend to attract things made to fuck up heroes and gods. Almost all doom horror attacks I've seen happened on special chassis.
Even then the chance to attract a doom horror is maybe 1 out of 6 or at least well bellow 50%.

Horrormarks also snowball heavily and seem to increase the chance of bad horrors arriving, a few horrormarks on god almost guarantee you a doom horror in a very near future.
Since horroramark attacks and AC horror attacks are separate encounter, you can easily get two of them on the same turn if you survive the first one.

For the most part I wouldn't recommend crafting small things or anything at all with important mages unless you are immortal or have a few alternative horrorsolutions that you can trust AI to cast.

That's just my personal experience and testing though.

>>135148092
Ah, I used a Demon Lord to cast crumble and I got Abomination of Desolation. Thankfully he banished it before it did too much damage.

>>135148092

I used a yaksha to get another yaksha and instead got Kurgi.

Pretty sure it's the number of gems.

Meanwhile small item crafts and spell casts are not getting attacked, 1 lesser horror attack so far.

>>135146024

Why would you not have extra. What if one catches a magic duel or an arrow or an assassin or kurgi. Always have extra slaves.

Speaking of Kurgi, does anyone still have the pastebin for that fic?

Blits blitz almost enough players

>>135149462
http://pastebin.com/tccb0qRJ

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>>135149623
Thanks

>>135148983
>I used a yaksha to get another yaksha and instead got Kurgi.
>Pretty sure it's the number of gems.
You can get anything on any cast.
I've gotten 6 globals cast through AC, a single one that got doom horror was a hero cast. Most of them were just lesser horrors, that's on 50+ gem casts.
I've gotten kurgi on a 5-10 gem crafting, twice out of maybe a hundred casts within that game. At the same i've gotten multiple doom horrors on an unmarked immortal tartarian caster (demilich) in the exact same game.
I've gotten normal horrors on 30-40 gem artifacts/big boosters crafted by tarts.
I've gotten elemental nobility and national heroes mauled by hunter of heroes without having a heroic trait or being in hallf of fame.

I'm entierly sure there's more to it than just having a lot of gems invested. Gems invested rig the odds and on wish you are very likely to get raped by kurgi, but horror pool is affected by more than gems. Chassis certainly and scales most likely.

>Meanwhile small item crafts and spell casts are not getting attacked
Chance to get attacked is definitely based on the cost, 3 gem items have like 20% chance at worst.

I find myself with +8 earth income as Vanarus, with no earth caster higher than E1. But I do have a few Boots of Earth and Dwarven Hammers already.
Any ideas what I should do with them? Earth Gem Alchemy or transmuting them kinda seems like a waste.
Rejuv items also seem unnecessary at this point in the game.

>>135152459
Earthboots+forest rec witch=RoS

Have fun making your enemies cry.

Want to start my first game (late ages) soon, what is everyone's idea of a rough tier list?

>>135152601
Rhaga Uber Alles

Strong contenders after that are Lemuria, Ulm, Bogarus and Bats

>>135152459
A single empower gives you E3, E3 gives you troll kings, troll kings plus earth boots give you turn one army of lead.

>>135152657
so basically blood or domkill?

As a new player, should I avoid multiplayer games like the plague so as not to hamper other peoples enjoyment?

>>135152657
>Strong contenders
>Lemuria

>>135152769
LA is an age of blood. A lot of nations have it so being a normal nation is a major disadvatnage, you have to expand very agressively or lose to a giant demon army somebody on the map is guaranteed to have.

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>>135152781
it depends

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>>135148092
This is the worst horror I've seen attack my commanders yet.
Luckily my Vampire Lord managed to blink next to it and kill it before the horror got any attacks/spells in.

Does it get any worse than this?

>>135152781
No, unless you're so new you haven't even tried singleplayer yet. (if you are that new, play a few singleplayer games first, so you get the hang of the UI and everything)

Firstly, you won't get better without multiplayer.

Second, most dominions players are bad. If you're willing to fight to the end and not suddenly abandon because your situation looks bad, you'll likely end up doing alright.

>>135153201
Kurgi and Agon?

>>135153201
Kurgi comes with astral tempest, enslave mind and ranged horrormark spam.
Maker of ruin makes ruin out of anything.

>>135152585
Excellent point, I even have it researched.

>>135153610
I'm not incompetent and I've played the singleplayer enough to know how to play the game, though I'm still getting to grips with what are the best options for scripting troops, and familiarizing myself with all of the spells.

Maybe I'll wait and see if anyone gets absolutely desperate for a player before jumping in.

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>>135153874
>>135146395
/domg is full of noobs

everyone's a noob to someone else

you won't learn to not be a noob unless you join games

these games have been waiting for pretenders for ages

>>135153874
I could set up and admin a game for new players (i.e. anyone who hasn't won a multiplayer game yet) if there's enough interest.

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Well, that happened...

>>135154294
Ok senpai, I'll defer to your experience.
But at least humor me long enough to tell me which game and nation in that big old list will be most noob friendly.

Unless of course this guy does thing in which case I'm in>>135154353

>>135154353
Do it, but make it a Steam game so no non-noob shiters could join.

>>135154424
I'll see how much interest I get first. So far we have one player.

>>135154540
I'm not keen about requiring steam, and anyone who cares enough about stomping noobs can easily get around it.

Haven't seen Boksi in a while

>>135154408
If he ever returns, you got a sweet communion diversity!
hope you got him the GPS

>>135157448
GPS?

Hey Posinia. Could we talk about borders?

>>135158496
>not invading RoS the nation on contact

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>>135152459
Come on, guys, sell me some pearls, please. I have 40 fire, 15 water and 50 slaves in exchange.

Jews, come on, you have Stellar Focus, mind sharing some with me?

Lemuria is tough. Lammashtas can't kill even one petty ghoul. What a dissapointment.

>>135153874
see
>>135146395
>>135146750

>>135158920

I have about 20-30 pearls I could part with, friendly giant.

>>135159958
Great news! What would you like to have in excnange? For 30 pearls I'll gladly give you 50 blood slaves and 10 water gems, for example? (1 gem = 2,5 girls)

>>135160276

Have any spare death gems by any chance?

>>135160338
Sorry about that, but I can give no more than 6 of them.

>>135160398

Alright, I'll take your initial deal, but can you make it 60 blood slaves?

>>135160540
Only for you I can. But I have only 50 on my hands for a moment. So remaining 10 I'll send the turn later. Would it be alright?

I am sending 50 girls and 10 W-gems to C'tis this turn.

>>135160649

How about just a dowsing rod instead then? You got an extra one of those on lying around?

I'll send over the 30 pearls as well.

>>135160754
Yes, I have exactly 1 spare dowsing rod. It's a deal then. Thank you.

>>135160879

Cool, then we have ourselves a deal.

>>135158303
aka "The bloody guide through Hell"

Admin, any back-up maps for a more reasonable number of players?

post wacky strategies, /domg/

>>135162129
I assume this is for the sum mod ma game?
If so yes, map and thrones are both place holders and will be chosen TONIGHT AT MIDNIGHT!

>>135164280
Ok, cool.

>>135164207
Mass flight and a bunch of slave collared scouts with medallions of vengeance

>>135164207
A while back someone was talking about having a communion master with a lot of slaves casting Phoenix Pyre - Blink x4. Sounds like a hell of a lot of fun, but I don't know how much you can actually expect out of it.

Hey, Flatus actual snakes, will we ever get to see the other set of score graphs?

So, apparently there are wars going on? Have I lucked out by starting next to reasonable people?

>>135164207

MA ulm with major bless combined with cheap shrouds.

Regenerating troops set to guard a death mage who casts soul vortex.

>>135146750
So, as a relatively new player would it be okay to join this game?
And if so any particular nation I should play or should I just go with whatever?

>>135165539
DON'T JOIN THAT GAME JOIN A VANILLA GAME YOU FUCK
IN FACT, JOIN ONE OF THESE
>>135146395
PLAY A NATION YOU LIKE, PRACTICE EXPANSION, LOOK UP PRETENDER DESIGN AND FIGURE OUT HOW MAGIC WORKS TOO

>>135165781
Ok.

>>135165781
WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING ON HIM. LET HIM PLAY WHAT HE WANTS TO FAGGOT

>>135166126

He would learn bad habits from playing some fringe mods.

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>>135166126
WHAT'S THE POINT OF A NEW PLAYER PLAYTESTING A BALANCE MOD

>>135166309
I agree that first-timers really shouldn't play mods, but summod isn't all that "fringe". Still not a good choice for a pure noob, though.

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>>135166402
THERE IS NONE, BUT YOU DONT NEED TO SHOUT

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No need to fight, I didn't know what I was doing.
Thanks for the advice, I guess I'll come back another day.

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>>135166518
FUCK YOU

FUCKING AUTOMATIC WINDOWS TEN UPDATE! CAN I PLEASE HAVE EXTENSIONS IN GOPHER HOLES AND DOMGEA? I'M NOT SURE WHY WE'RE ALL SHOUTING, AND A NEW PLAYER USING THE BALANCE MOD WOULD BE FINE GIVEN THE AIM IS FOR IT TO BE USED IN MOST OF NOT ALL GAMES.

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>>135166628
AND FUCK YOU TOO

>>135166604
Come back and play, we're not fighting, honest!
Well two idiots are fighting but we can ignore them and all be friends.

>>135166604
As the author of the mod in question, it'll be much more forgiving of strategies that are severely suboptimal in vanilla gameplay. That might cause some particularly inefficient play in vanilla. (For example, you might get the mistaken impression that drakes are sometimes useful. While they're not a terrible gemsink in summod, they're awful in vanilla.)

There are

>>135167045
Can you change the byline of your mod to "there are" please?

>>135165539
Are you a separate anon from >>13515442?

If so, would you be interested in a noob-only game?

>>135167219
Post number got cut off, correct post is >>135154424

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Nice one guys, you scared off another new guy.

>would you be interested in a noob-only game?
The games at the top of the thread pretty much are noob only. The vets (of which there are not many) are all playing the natgen and meme games. We should concentrate on filling the games that are still waiting for pretenders, rather than arbitrarily starting new games without filling any of them.

>>135167702
I'm going to start another three.

>>135167702
>the vets are all playing the natgen and meme games

RIP me.

>>135167702
>Nice one guys, you scared off another new guy.
I just got a feeling that he hasn't played 6 month in SP yet.

>>135167702
>The vets (of which there are not many) are all playing the natgen and meme games.
Where are you getting this from?

I'm sure there's some veterans who aren't playing normal vanilla games, but I see no reason to believe that all or even most veterans do so.

>>135167702
>The vets
Define vets. Am I a vet if I play MP for a year or so?

>>135168312
Did you play SP for at least 6 months?

>>135168447
I played it since Dom3. I even happened to play Dom1 a long time ago. Why? Is this a new meme?

>>135168604
Yes, it was inspired by some autist saying everyone had to play 6 months SP before going into MP.

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Shut the fuck up and join some games assholes.

>6 months of single player

STOP

JUST JOIN A GAME

THEY GO FOR WEEKS AND MONTHS YOU CAN LEARN HOW TO PLAY IN THAT TIME

SPEND 1 HOUR RIGHT NOW PRACTICING EXPANDING INTO INDIES

THEN YOU HAVE LIKE A WEEK TO FIGURE OUT YOUR MID-LATE GAME STRATS.

>>135168736
I can't fathom why anybody should suffer such disgusting fate.

>>135168736

I don't know what autist told you that, but most autists here would tell you to read the manual and then join a PEBM.

>>135168771
BUT I'M ALREADY IN 4 AND WAITING TO GET INTO 2 OTHERS.

>>135169030
YOU ARE FUCKING NOTHING SON

LAMBERT IS IN 25 AND HE CAN'T GET ENOUGH

UP

YOUR

GAME

>>135169124
BUT I'M NOT A NEET.

>>135169124
1. I said it was a bad move and ridiculous
2. I'm now in less
3. Still far too many, jesus shit.
>>135169251
If only, anon, if only.

>>135169030
>>135169251
4 is ok m8

It's important that new players don't join too many games and then get overwhelmed when turns start taking more than an hour each. All I'm saying is that if you're in 1 game right now, join a second. If you're in 2, consider a third. If you're in none, what are you waiting for?

>>135169508
>turns taking more than an hour each
what

>>135169508
And for the love of god if you're stupid enough to reach double digit game numbers don't go for broke and join more. Just because it's taught me to do five minute turns doesn't mean it hasn't turned a fun game into a chore at points.

>>135169251

YOURE LIVING A LIE ANON

A LIE

>>135169124
I'm trying to help him out. Noweebs is done (I fucking hate all but 4 thrones needed to win, especially with 5 points UW), and I'm sorry gopherholes turned into such a FFA clusterfuck.

Also extended by 2 hours.

>>135169390
Could you please list all the games you're in right now? I'm also kind of interested in how you managed to pull it off.

>>135158496
Sure, how about we set it at the throne, you stay above the throne and the mountains and I stay below.

>>135169971
Lanka and Van's lateness to the party made it a clusterfuck, not you. NoWeebs was an important lesson about not resting on your laurels because someone else isn't and they'll fuck your shit up.
Thanks for the postpone.
>>135170079
Give me a minute, my computer is struggling back to life under the yoke of windows 10.

>offer an alliance to a player with a common enemy
>they immediately stale

Grand list:
Anger in the domg
BadIdea (all ages so three games)
Bozbash2
CastleDoc
Cliffs of Divinity
TheMiddling (subbed in)
DomgMa
DomgEa
FLAtus 2
Gopher_holes
LaAnFFa
Mapmaking is Hard (my map)
Plight of the working man
Midground
Masters of Mana
NewNails
Noobcradle (subbed in as Thed to get them from having 2 provinces to a reasonable state, after the nerf no new player wants to take over so I'm stuck.)
NoWeebs (I may have gone AI? I should stop doing turns at 2am)
NoStalers
DomgNationGen (curse my weakness to hoburgs)
End Times
Armemegedon

>>135171048
You may notice I have a smattering of stales, this is because when anything messes up my daily routine I don't have time for it. However I'm fairly pleased with how few they are

Did everyone die of amazement at my stupidity?

LetsmakeSum1Happy Ulm and Riley, I hope you realize that you're about to stale.

>>135173795
>130.2 hours of dominions in the past two weeks
Yes

>>135173795
What made you think it was a good idea to keep joining games?

>>135170304
I'm actually to the west from that throne.
I would feel really uncomfortable if you captured Plain of Memories, since that's touching my cap ring.
You could have the throne if you wanted to, but leave me Plain of Memories. It's even a wasteland anyway.

>>135171048
I'm pretty sure you are C'tis in Newyearnails
Fuck you

>>135173936
To be fair, I do leave my laptop on with it running at points.
help me
>>135173976
I don't know, people kept asking me to.

>>135174214
Come on, find a girlfriend already. Bitches love economists 'cause they think they will become rich.

Not really.

>>135174169
Nope Pelagia.

>>135174339
Right, I'll use my free time oh wait I have none.

>>135174461
You'd have plenty of free time if you'd stop joining games.

>>135174568
IT'S A VISCOUS CYCLE

>>135174342
you are a bro then
I'm nazca and i'm joining your waterbattle soon if you want me to do so

>>135174339
I'm pretty sure Lambert is a cute redheaded girl though.

>>135174712
Why would you even think that.

>>135174712
Lesbians are hot, anon.

>>135174712
I'm pretty sure lambert is the name of some kind of cheese.

>>135174842
>>135174863
>>135174884
>>135174712
aren't redheaded girls always cute and lesbian anyway?

Fog warriors + Army of foo should make EQ spam harmless, right?

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Do I get points for removing less annoying skeletons?

>>135176843
Army of X alone pretty much nullifies it.

>>135176919
Thanks.

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Sure is memes in here

>>135176843

Fog warriors is enough.

>>135176878
Actually, does anyone want a quick AAR of what happened?

>>135177459
Sure, go ahead.

>>135177107
That armemegeddon? Man that's a crowded fucking area apparently.

>>135177107
>giant fucking map
>Therodos is right next to two other people

WOOOW

>>135178317
The game itself hates Therodos, I'm not sure why but it does.

>>135177107

Thanks for the free scouting information, I'll just go through the whole map to find that one spot you are hovering over.

>>135178632
Well ask Therodos, I'm pretty sure he'll freely tell people.

>>135178632
>not moving the map screen before taking a screenshot

What a scrub.

>>135178615
>Illwinter itself hates Therodos, I'm not sure why but it does.
Fixed your spelling, anon.

>>135179135
That's also true, but it's both.

Okay, this battle turned out to be rather stupid in the way that I won it so I'll come and post how it went later on. It's actually making me doubt whether I should have won it at all.

There was a piece of music that played in the main menu of Dom 3 I think, had some bloke singing a language, all I can remember, anyone got a youtube link?

>>135180090
Oh shit now that I think it about it, it may have been from mount and blade lel

>>135176878

I helped!

...ish.

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Here we have the battlefield, the noble forces of Jotunheim on the left, the cowardly vegetable men to the right. Nothing too out of the ordinary, except that Asphodel has basically nothing but some animals and mages/priests after he attacked me the first time I went on his capital.

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>Domino's pizzaria will never be fully 3D

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Asphodel's pretender, for those that didn't know.
It mostly serves as his foul vapors and quagmire caster in the fights he's been having.

>>135182329
takeaway pizza is vile

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As the battle starts, Asphodel casts foul vapors, quagmire, iron bane and darkness in the first two turns, which has been a fairly effective strategy against Eriu and Pelagia (although I think Eriu is a new player given how his battles have gone and Pelagia didn't bring enough troops to win the major battle he fought with asphodel)

>>135182663
You had an N9 bless, right?

>>135182663
Aspho is sorely lacking in meat in this battle. If they had it researched, they should've been spamming Living Water out of the pretender.

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Asphodel begins the chaff spamming with horde of skeletons and swarm. At this point, I've put up Grip of winter (didn't help) and The Ravenous Swarm (also didn't help). My Gygja's are tied into a skratti communion battery, and they all have regeneration and poison resistance, so foul vapors doesn't really do anything to them.

>>135182889
Yep, it actually turns out to be extremely useful

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A carrion lord that asphodel has given thug items to (fire brand, vine shield, some armour) gets swarmed by the skeletons coming from both sides. At this point, there's no living troops on either side except for a few berserking gamhirdings. I also put up relief at some point, which also didn't have any meaningful impact.

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As the battle continues, my side of the field slowly completely fills up with skeletons, because skratti communion batteries with an n9 shoud and personal regeneration are really, really strong, and the gygja's never stop casting. Despite that, the trickle of skeletons coming from Asphodel is enough to plug the gate.

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After a while, with the stalemate at the gate occuring, there's so many skeletons on the field that they start spawning inside the enemy fort and attacking asphodel's skeletons defending the gate. This is quite silly, but it works and the skeletons get enough of a foothold to break into asphodel's fort. The skeletons next to the inside wall are ones that are spawning inside the fort but belong to me.

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As an aside, Manikins happen to be one of the few types of undead that aren't resistant to cold, so I thought I was being jolly clever by casting grip of winter and hoping his mages would all freeze to death. The most it does is freeze up a couple of mages every so often, of course.

>>135182456
>Lhurgoyf

Ach, Hans, run!

>>135174048
Sure, I'll move into Ashenton.

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Just before the skeletons get to Asphodel's pretender and kill her, I reach the attacker turn limit and the skeletons start dissolving.

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But, there are two beserking gamhirdings that somehow survived through all of this crap and start hitting Asphodel's pretender until she runs away. Perfectly calculated.

>>135185412
Kek.

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>>135179672

I'm not sure how you won either, apparently my computer can't handle your communion.

Where's that coe4 link?

>>135185638
Skratti communions are 2dank
I mean, it leaves them with more afflictions than a blind bomb disposal unit, but as long as they can cast sabbath slave it's fine.

>>135154353
>(i.e. anyone who hasn't won a multiplayer game yet)
Y-yeah, everyone who's been playing more than a year or two must have won by now, right?

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>>135186120

>>135186120
I've said this before, but one of the biggest issues with /domg/ is that it doesn't really any distinction between good players and bad players. And you can never make that distinction even if you wanted to, because the majority of games played are anonymous. As a result, if you're even just a little below average in skill, your chances to win drop to almost zero since it's just a handful of good players that win like 90% of the games here.

>>135171048
Do you do literally anything else in your life?

>>135182663

Wrt. Eriu, yeah, one of her first two games.

As for me, extra bodies aren't exactly easy to come by as Pelagia. I tried with what I had, but even cleansing water spam just didn't do enough to stem the skeleton tide. Mother Oak allowed Asphodel a grotesque amount of skellyspammers.

In hindsight, should've said fuck it and gone for full-battlefield-evocations, but eh. My first time with an evocation-heavy nation.

>>135186515
I hope to win one of my current games just to prove how scrubby /domg/ is (I'm an ultra scrub)

>>135186570
>her
LONDON

>>135144834
The worst is when you forget to script your dragon pretender and it spend the entire battle casting poison touch instead of breathing acid and gets killed by militia on turn 2

>>135186120
Consider joining 25 games. You're bound to win something eventually.

>>135186968
Honestly I won more BEFORE I had to only spend 5 minutes on turns.

>>135176878

And yes, you are most definitely holy in the eyes of Marignon for blowing up Undead Menace #2.

Who's the admin for GelatinousCube anyway? We really should set Agartha to AI, there's nobody home there.

When you're using an awake expander, is there any way to know for sure a non-throne province won't have mages? Sometimes there are 2 or 3 skelespammers in your typical "archers and light infantry" province that will totally wreck your day, and it's not feasible to ping every single province you're going to expand to.

>>135187389
Who's next on the crusading list? Also, you should stop bullying Eriu, he doesn't appear to have any idea of what he's doing.

>>135186515
Huh, I joined just some 5 months ago and am rocking a 60 percent win rate over 5 pbems (will hopefully be 66 percent soon).

Doesn't seem that hard to get a win . . .

>>135187603
Tbh I almost never encounter that myself (on indie strength 5) but one way to be sure would be to send an indie commander scripted to retreat before the pretender, but that would slow the expansion a lot so imo it's just better to take your chances.

>>135187603
Honestly these days I lose more of them to random fucking units doing 2 billion damage.
that bug is starting to occur entirely too often for my tastes

>>135187953
Fuck off Sy

>>135187953
Maybe if you played something other than Ermor

>>135187953
>Huh, I joined just some 5 months ago and am rocking a 60 percent win rate over 5 pbems (will hopefully be 66 percent soon).
5 games is far too small a sample size to judge your skill by, but that's still pretty huge. Assuming 6+ players per game, the chance of every having a 60% win rate is pretty much zero unless you're significantly better than the people you're playing against.

>Doesn't seem that hard to get a win . . .
Consider that for every win you got, everyone else in the game got a loss. Yeah, it is very hard to get a win for most people.


You're either comletely missing the point of that post you're quoting, or you're just jumping on it as an opportunity for some cheap anonymous bragging.

>>135187650

If nobody sets them to AI, then Agartha, before Ulm finishes eating them whole.

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>tfw the person you're trusting to break a stalemate goes AI

>>135188462
>never gotten to play Ermor
I just want to do spoopy things ;__;

>>135188751
What game?

>>135188503
Games take a long time though, and I'm not a monster like map maker who can play 25+ games at a time.

That said I do have a habit of picking stronger nations on average in general (though I've never won as Ermor. I won't deny relying quite heavily on diplo which Ermor makes . . . Difficult, for obvious reasons).

>>135188428
That's not me, actually.

>>135188852
>Pick Great Sage pretender
>Rush Enchantment 5
>Burden of Time everyone while they're still picking up Evocation 3 or whatever shit
>Their mages all die so they can't even get to Enchantment 5 to Dispel
>All their commanders die as they turn into old men and catch leprosy in your dominions
2spoop

>>135188978
What have you won as?

>>135189260
>Great Sage
>not Neteret
Do you even Ermor?

>>135189260
>Wrong pretender
>Wrong research school
>Vastly overestimating the actual damage BoT causes
Yeah, ok

>>135189220
Are you in LetsMakeSum1Happy?

>>135189496
EA TC
EA Agartha
MA Pan

Trying to win gopherholes as EA Atlantis (no point in denying I'm close to winning, everyone is already fighting me anyway)

Lost as a natgen nation, and as MA Ermor. I'll also eat my hat if I win flatus, so that'll probably be another loss in about another half a year.

>>135188978
Either way, if you can keep up a 60% winrate that definitely puts you on the "handful of good players" side, which just proves the original point.

60% is an extremely significant winrate, considering /domg/ games tend to have between 6 and 12 players on average. If all players were of more or less equal skill you'd expect winrates of around 10-15% maybe, but right now it's a small minority with high winrates that collectively win almost all games, while the majority is guys like >>135186120 who play many games without ever winning anything.

The only way to fix this is by creating more games only for good players or only for newbies/bad players. That way the good players can get an actual challenge, and the bad players have a better chance to learn without getting curbstomped every game. Unfortunately, there's pretty much zero interest in doing things this way because the good players love their win ratio too much and the bad players are afraid to admit they're shit.

>>135189673
No, but I should have been

>>135189801
I find it hard to believe someone who has only played 5 games wins as EA TC.

Pan and Agartha are pretty straight-forward so I guess I could see that, but nations like TC generally require a bit more experience to make the most of.

>>135190032
EA TC has strong sacreds, and sacred summons to leverage the bless.

>>135189814
I bet if when I make a game specifically for losers, it'll be populated.

>>135190102
And three of the players would be smurfs looking for an easy win.

>>135189814
I'd be interested in running some summod games for players that consider themselves good, but I somehow doubt that they'll fill.

Playing against retards doesn't mean you're good

How does EA R'Yleh into land? No shields, no archers, and aquatic commanders mean you're stuck in a pond for as long as it takes for you to get an Amulet of the Fish, unless you're willing to throw wave upon wave of slaves at one province so you can throw up a fort and start getting some Abodai.

>>135190242
probably not, unless they want to troll as EA rlyeh or something.

>>135190090
Sure, but their mages have too much diversity and too little depth for most newbies to properly leverage them.

>>135190393
You have successfully identified why they are considered a bad nation.

Is there any reason why people are allergic to joining games at the moment?

>>135190448
I found a good source of communion slaves (lizard shaman) that allowed me to cast the big buff spells.

Also it was on urrapparrand, and I got the spot. If you've played on that imbalanced piece of shit, you'll know what I mean.

>>135190448
With the right bless, you can spam Ancestral Spirits as a ghetto skelly spam. That + spells that your big mages can cast on their own (you can put up many good battlefield spells like arrow fend, wind guide, flaming arrows, and mass protection without a communion, if you get the right randoms) and you have some very worthwhile mage support. Also, many of the situational battlefield spells are pretty intuitive - if your opponent is using fire elementals, cast fire resistance. Finally, he said that he was relying on diplomacy to get an edge, so combine a strong early game with that and it's entirely possible that he avoided fights where he didn't have a significant gold advantage, which makes it entirely possible to win even with suboptimal mage use

>>135171048
>still being in castledoc
for what purpose?

>>135190424
How do you troll as EA R'Yleh? Do you just sit in a puddle and kill any Astral Mage within ritual range?

Please tell me, I'm worried about having any form of relevance in an upcoming hame

>>135190850
>urrapparrand
Cold, bitter hatred.

>>135190819
Lotta games filled up recently, I think.

>>135191313
Turtle underwater, save up a shitload of Astral Pearls, rush Wish and start wishing for Armageddon every turn.

>>135191316
2nd worst map I've played a pbem on. Cliffs of Divinitys map is the worst, with multiple caps in 1 province connections and 60ish water provinces and no aquatic or iirc amphibious nation.

>>135191339
this

>tfw your thrones make your already good sacreds the absolute best.
+5 fire res (meh)
+3 def
and now Awe(1)

>>135191316
>>135190850
I've never played on Urrapparrand, explain it to me.

>>135192120
It's a bad map with clustered terrain and lots of overlapping terrain types.

>>135191281
HIS MAMA DIDN'T RAISE NO QUITTERS

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So. My capring was utterly devoid of anything of value. I have about 9000 pop combined in the provinces I've expanded into. I have little income and subsequently few troops, I shudder when thinking of how the fuck I'm going to build another lab, let alone a fort.

Honestly my last hope is getting some sick sites.

>>135192120
There's a pseudo island that has around 15 provinces, 2 entrances that aren't over water, and which contains nearly half the pure farmland on the map.

Also enjoy mm1 literally everywhere.

>>135192120
20 provinces of mountains mixed with mountainforests attached to 6 provinces of wastelands mixed with wastemountains attached to 8 provinces of swamps mixed with swampforests and swamp mountains turning 10 provinces of mountains mixed with mountainforests.

This is your urraparound experience.
And of course there are farm clusters to really rig the odds.

>>135192946
I have 7 provinces whose combined income is under 50 gold.

This map might actually beat my urraparound experience.

>>135192946
Why build a fort? Aren't there like 13 or so prebuilt for you? They even come with a lab!

>>135192946
Good.

Though honestly I'm also getting shit for income. This just a dead map or something?
Even my farms are worth fuck-all.

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>>135192946
>tfw you start in a shit corner of a shit map and almost all the land you have immediate access to is sub-1000 pop wasteland

>>135193079
> not playing flyers/sailing elves/glorious mountain survival EA Ulm on Urrapashit
> Genuinely being this pleb>>135193079

ATTENTION ADMIN OF THE MA SUMMOD GAME.
IT'S BROKEN, PLEASE DON'T.
AND BY BROKEN I MEAN TC GETS ARMIES OF INVISIBLE MEN AND BANDAR LOG'S SUMMONED SACREDS EXPLODE THEMSELVES.

>>135193413
NEAT!
okay I'll wait until Sum1 fixes his shit then host, game is still on, just 'not yet'

>>135193413
That sounds like an amazing experience.

>>135193413
Allah ackbar.

>>135192946
>260 gold from 9 provinces.
>130 gold from 1 farm
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

>>135193560
Try having 500 troops and 30 commanders by the end of year one in a five minute a turn blitz and the troops are invisible so you can't see which province they're in.

>>135193725
glamour 2.0
the troops are so sneaky even the player doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

>>135193227
I-I-I lost another chariot. I don't even have 1 for each enemy c-cap. I have a small sobek army. My only hope of redemption is taking the level 3 throne in my capring and getting some form of sick bonus from it.

p-please clap

>>135193703
>>260 gold from 9 provinces.
Rich cunt.

Thank the Pankoman that horrors don't wear uniforms

>>135193863
They were also called "no-one"s which is kinda funny in sum1wons mod.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=TheNewCool

Is this page messing up for anyone? I haven't submitted my turn but it shows that I have. It's just showing the same player status as from the very end of turn 17.

>>135194631
Yeah, llama appears to be bugged again. Turns are still getting processed, apparently.

>>135193906
I'm feeling it too. Thank god the dear riders are 24 gold, or I wouldnt be able to afford them.

Makes turmoil luck a bit better though. After all, luck stays the same, but 30% of shit is still shit

>>135194631
>>135194705
Would you like me to delay hosting just in case? I'm reticent to touch anything on Llama, since last time there was a meltdown, admins that did extensions and rollbacks had problems while those that left the game alone had everything end up okay.

>>135194787
>dear
anyway, deer are for eating, not for riding (horses are for both)!

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>Armemegeddon Xibalba spawned in that central area filled with farms and forests

>>135194787
Too many map switches fucked me over, i didn't build my pretender for this shit map. Also I can't really justify anything other than full scales and diversity for my nation, terrible sacreds.

>>135195523
I blame autocorrect. It's ducking done worse

>>135195049
Not even in that game, but I would probably just leave it alone.

>>135195639
>Doesn't run Turmoil Luck by default
What a bore

>>135195564
It's okay, I'll get in contact with my local methhead. That'll solve the problem

>>135195049
'if it's broke don't fuck with it' is a god rule of thumb for any admin on llama.
Chances are very high you'll just make it way worse.

Anyone know what Sum1won was intending to do with Apsara, in terms of giving them a new attack?

>>135195756
Not him but, I have terrible irl luck so running in game luck is almost always a poor decision for me.

>>135193524
'cause I'm kind, here's the fix https://www.dropbox.com/s/u21a1qzr4t7wuep/summodnations0511.dm?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gp7zoh1work6tza/Terracotta%20Folder.zip?dl=0

Yes I snuck one of next version's changes that I made into it as well, put the .tgas for the Terracotta stuff into the summod folder.

Oh and someone need to upload it to Llama.

>>135195564
Xibalban expansion is actually hugely slowed by indy strength 9, especially in farms. It'll still be crazy, but we might have just been saved, provided he is dealt with quickly, before he goes from bats to demons.

>>135196938
>Xibalban expansion is actually hugely slowed by indy strength 9
All he needs is a few forests to shit out those bats fast enough to make up for his massive losses and he'll still be expanding faster than ayone this side of W9 Pangaea.

>tfw having players both from the americas and europe
I JUST WANT TO PLAY 2 TURNS A DAY JESUS CHRIST IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK

>>135197434
> tfw Ulm
> tfw spawned in the middle of wastelands
> tfw you will never have an impact on the game
> tfw you are too polite to stale and too proud to go AI like a proper Ulm

>>135197764
M8, lot of Aussies and Kiwis play this game too.

>>135197954
Even worse

A flying army from province Y attacks adjacent province Z. A non-flying army from province Z attacks province Y. Do they meet in the middle and fight? Does it depend?

What does it depend on?

>>135198343
It depends. Two very small armies can pass eachother without fighting. Any sort of decent numbers will probably end up fighting eachother.

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>>135198343
reposting from yesterday

>>135198343
Biggest army gets a priority for movement

Sum1, you want to make helhiem viable?

> sacred draug
> item that increases the efficiency of draug summoning

You're welcome

>>135198705
No. Fastest army does. It depends on action points and map movement with modifiers for flying.

>>135198781
Helhiem restricted right?

Pls no sacred dragur for giants

>>135198781
Could you check for me if 2192/3 Draugr are used anywhere? Also the 2194 Draugr leader.
I'm not sum1won but I can code it so it gets presented as "this is a block of code you might like" rather than "this is another thing to be added to your workload.

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>>135199095
>N9E9 draugrs

>>135198781
Oh and the item to make more spawn when summoning won't work, that stuff is hardcoded.
>>135199326
The fuck do you want E9? They wear armour and have 0 encumberence.

>>135199481
For niefelheim blessrush memes

>>135198781
Give them fire giants? Maybe that's too similar to Abysia.

>>135199326
D9N9 more like

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>>135199979
Gythiea come drop a pun in chat, Ill be waiting

Please don't start witty meme yet, I apparently broke two things.

Vanarus went AI and has started attacking me, my crusade against Ermor will be put on hold, possibly indefinable.

Panokrator help us all.

>>135198564
This used to be the case in Dom3, but no longer is. The only way two armies can pass each other now is a weird situation involving forts and magic movement.

>>135198802
>>135198705
They're both kinda right. Size and speed both matter.

>>135199317
>>135198781
Helheim already has improved draugr in mod, and yes, it uses 2192/2193. As mas

How do I kill SC pretenders in early midgame? I've got a nasty Great White Bull roaming around his dominion with 200+ HP and 20+ MR and he seems to be untouchable.

>>135201449
It depends

>>135201449
depends on what nation you are

>>135201576
>>135201693
Oh, right. I'm playing LA T'ien Ch'i.

>>135193413
Holy shit. How?

>>135201743
Paralyze it with massed ancestors and slowly kill it with flaming arrows / evo / whatever you're using to kill things.

>>135189664
>Wrong pretender
Actually, the Great Sage has +5 research over the Neteret, even though the neteret has +1 per researcher. So in the first 5 turns, the great sage researches faster, neener neener.
>Wrong school
Enchantment and Thaumaturgy are like, practically, the same thing.
>Overestimating BoT
Sure, it's not that threatening, unless you're facing off against Marignon and not a single person in his kingdom is younger than a hundred years old by the time they get their witch-hunting diploma

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Since I just cast eyes of god I figured I should dump the current score graphs and who is playing.

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>>135202439
Only four people left in the game, as it stands Vanarus is in a position to win this but Ermor has a gigantic army.

>>135201881
He's got more than 20 MR and paralyze is MR-negates. How many Ancestors do I need? Tens? A hundred?
I can summon one per Call Ancestor cast. And they're 1 HP each, so they'll die as soon as I start firing evocations/flaming arrows.

Any other ideas?

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>>135202630
After Ermor recently turned AI you can see a surge in his province count, I think this is because it has recently decided to attack the sea under Shinuyama command

>>135201827
I screwed up a montag and used a weapon id for two different things

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>>135202916
I am not sure if this is because Ermor is building more forts or grabbing them but as it stands he is in the lead.

>>135202916
>that fluctuating province count
turn 1 anti-ermor coalition?

>>135203207
He rushed BoT.

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>>135203142
Income wise Vanarus reigns supreme

>>135202853
The point is that you spam the ancestors out constantly. The bull won't kill them quickly since they're ethereal, so it will stay distracted by them until the paralysis lands. You need only 4ish mages to keep it contained. You're right that they'll die to the evo, but so what? You're constantly producing more of them.

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>>135203379
Leading in the gem department is Vanarus with Ermor starting to catch up

>>135203207
He cast Burden Of Time and everyone ganged up on him but forgot about him or turned AI so he survived.

>>135202263
I can tell that you've never done this.

>>135203595
Hey, I attacked him till he started staling because I wiped his armies, then I dispelled BoT and went on with my day.

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>>135203595
Vanarus is leading scientific development followed close behind by Shinuyama

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>>135203864
The two powerhouses are leagues above everyone else in terms of dominion

>>135203708
>Hurr durr enchantment and thaumaturgy aren't even the same thing
Plz try to contain your autism

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>>135204093
As it stands Ermor has a fairly substantial lead above Vanarus, and thus this closes my report of the current happenings in the land of domgmagame hope you have a swell day.

>>135203541
Will try that, thanks.

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>>135204241

>AI Ermor superior to player Ermor

>>135204742
Player Ermor had me punching him, AI Ermor has me sheparding him to attack not-me.

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/domg/ games currently waiting for pretenders

>EA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=standardeagame
Map: Realm of Roaring Cave Rhinos
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Players: (7/11)
Tir na n'Og
Fomoria
Caelum
T'ien Ch'i
Xibalba
Arcoscephale
Niefelheim

>MA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=SpringHawks
Map: Random with ~15 provinces per player
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Ermor is banned apparently
Players: (3/12)
Ulm
Mictlan
Sceleria

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=wittymemename
Map: Riverlands with 16 fixed starts
Mods: Sum Mod National, Sum Mod Generic .51, Sum Mod popkill .51, Worthy Heroes 5.5 (NN)
Players: (6/16)
Ulm
Ermor
Pythium
Man
Shinuyama
Caelum


>LA
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=EdibleGloves
Map: RiverlandsGC
Mods: Worthy Heroes 5.5
Players: (6/12)
Atlantis
Ulm
Midgard
Agartha
Bogarus
C'tis

>>135204880
Thanks for the community service, bud.

>>135204742
>Ermor goes AI
>"Oh well he went AI, he's no longer a threat. I don't want to waste my manpower taking his shitty 0 income provinces. I'll just leave him be."
>Ermor rampages across the map
>"Ewww Ermor dominion touched it, I don't want it anymore"
>Ermor becomes hyperpower and wins
>"Lousy Ermor world 0 income, not even worth conquering"

>>135204879
AI Ermor better at diplo than player Ermor

>>135205034
And people wonder why Ermor wins all the time

>>135205629
It's because he's so strong, not because I'm bad!

R-right??

>>135205629
Look at the fucking troop graph, I know MAGESUPPORT and all, but LOOK AT THE FUCKING TROOP GRAPH.

>>135206203
99% of that is just chaff, a few priests and mages will take care of them since it's in the hands of the AI

>>135206203
It looks like a perfectly ordinary Ermor troop graph. they'll have 5-10 times as many troops as anyone else, sure. The point is they're comparatively very easy to kill and the logistics of shuffling them all around are a pain in the ass. Not that the latter really matters for AI I suppose.

>>135206203
You are monkeys, you can kill thousands of skeletons 1 turn.

>>135204880
I've never joined via /domg/ before. Do you just send in a pretender?

>>135206802
Yes, but you generally want to post in the thread saying that you signed up as whatever nation and possibly continue checking it for the public diplo and memes related to your game.

>>135206483
Ermor's undead are bloody good chaff, and with human mage support it become very powerful.
>>135206493
Removing that many skeletons is a lot of work, trust me.
>>135206687
Too bad there are thousands more.

>>135206802
Write down the stats and look on a piece of paper and mail it to the dominions 4 headquarters via snailmail

>>135206875
Thanks. I've sent in an LA Mictlan pretender for Ediblegloves.

>>135206875
Too bad that doesn't happen most of the time (until the game is under way and people do diplo here)

>>135206895
But it's not a human, it's AI

>>135206895
>Removing that many skeletons is a lot of work, trust me.
I'm pretty sure that one strong thug with a few self-buffs and reinvigoration could kill all 1000 of them, given enough time

>>135207061
>not sending one of the kings carrier pidgeons

>>135207354
>Not sending it via Beastbat, anointed with the blood of 8 virgins

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>>135206203
Troop graph is just a skeleton count graph. Mages decide battles and games, not 9999 longdeads.

>>135207728
Whoah, wrong image. Nevermind, the point still stands.

>>135207728
Did you/he use undead mastery or how did that happen?

>>135207973
Well, it wasn't 23 water bottles, that's for sure.

>>135207202
He has cheap summonable E4s. He could just earthquake spam.

>>135207973
Just good old Teleport + Wind of Death with some penetration boosters. Plus, it happened near my UW province, so the elder retreated there on turn 3 or 4, and was safe and sound.

>>135207973
WoD, I'm guessing

>>135207183
Yes, but it's typical Ermor.
>>135207202
Just hope he's got no mages.
>>135207728
Sceleria won that partly because he had neverending skellies in front of his mages, making my flying elephants not be able to reach them also hello coolstory

And this is why you always bring extra pearls for magic duel